#rogue-core-chat

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daring hill
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Oh yeah for sure

uncut folio
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But they’re definitely not final and just some presets

daring hill
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3 difficulties. Each one increases enemy difficulty in unspecified ways, and adds an extra stage

uncut folio
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But even the first one is pretty tough, it really holds you accountable for managing your time

daring hill
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From 4 stages up to 6

bold hawk
daring hill
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The 6 stage one gives you time to pull some CRAZY builds and also enjoy it

uncut folio
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Agreed

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The length of the first one is comparable to a deep dive I’d say

olive narwhal
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You are certainly in for the long haul on 6 stage

uncut folio
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Yeah I’ve only beaten the 6 stage in singleplayer

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I REALLY want to beat it in multiplayer though, got the 5 stage that way and it felt good as fuck

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Also the timer ticking down sound effect is terrifying

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If you hear it and the elevator isn’t already starting up, oh boy you might be fucked

bold hawk
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Is there as many horrors as a haz 5 core stone event or is there more?

uncut folio
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Honestly, a timer expired elevator charge up is maybe a bit worse

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Especially since no zip line cheese

bold hawk
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Can't wait to slice them up like butter when that happens

uncut folio
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No acid blood tho

signal moon
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oh god the core stone events are brutal

bold hawk
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Also how do the upgrades feal right now? And are there any stat upgrades?

uncut folio
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Hit or miss sometimes, but some very fun

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Double jump is a thing

silk magnet
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WHAATTT????

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thats crazy

uncut folio
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It’s also stackable if it pops up again

median sleet
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And it's a white upgrade

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I think it might need to get changed to green

daring hill
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I want to make a scout tf2 build

uncut folio
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That goes for a lot of builds in this game

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They’re very reliant on the player being aware they have them

vocal jewel
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grenades

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xd

uncut folio
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Cool you grabbed drivers C4, it’s only powerful if you remember to actually use it

bold hawk
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My problem is i forget i don't have em the next run

uncut folio
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So your playstyle is constantly changing since your arsenal grows really fast

vocal jewel
uncut folio
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You need to switch your brain from using one weapon to 2 once you acquire a second, or else you’ll be making inefficient use of ammo

bold hawk
uncut folio
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And that really messes with you if you come from DRG since you’re not used to the guns you have changing thoughout a mission

bold hawk
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Well what if you have a lot of rouglike experience?
And no DRG experience?

uncut folio
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You probably will get less tripped up by that

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Since you’ll have the impulse to try new gun since every gun you get is new to you

pulsar owl
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Is pre charging the elevator a possible thing in runs?

uncut folio
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And I don’t think this is an issue with the games design, it’s just a matter of player skill and adaptability, which the game clearly encourages

uncut folio
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Meaning you can’t deposit expenite for the rest of that stage

bold hawk
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I am guessing the first time i play i am going to see a good weapon from DRG or a fully new one and not use the old ones

uncut folio
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It’s a good choice tbh

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Otherwise the meta would be to charge it ASAP and do everything else instead of doing it last and giving the stage a climax

uncut folio
bold hawk
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I am going to forget that i don't have a grappling hook if i get a scout weapon or the engi granade launcher

uncut folio
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When you DO get it, you’ll forget you have it

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But I had it and the platform gun at the same time once

vocal jewel
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nah grapple i will remember

uncut folio
bold hawk
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I will probably try to jump with the granade launcher and kill myself trying

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Btw how did everyones 1st run go?

calm yoke
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I noticed from a video that deposit cancelling is still a thing here.

Since the game leans more on time efficiency, think there will be elitists who will kick you for not using the trick?

I for once never used it simply because it hurts my eyes to see. And I mean physically, not just because it looks ugly, I think it's the flashing.

olive narwhal
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Being honest i have not noticed a huge difference between canceling and not personally

tall plume
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You can even deposit in Ellis while it's flying before it lands next to you

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so it's faster in more ways than one

tacit urchin
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The pickaxe cancel is also in the game btw

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Isn't that much faster though

tall plume
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same, haven't really felt the need to pickaxe cancel

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it was already such a meager gain in DRG (like 2-3% extra speed compared to regular mining) and mining is made better in RC too

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I don't see a reason to remove those mechanics though

tacit urchin
vocal jewel
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its more relevant in drg because the golden lootbug filled my inventory and my nitra is hiding behind it

old swift
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ive still been deposit cancelling out of habit

tacit urchin
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I don't even know how to lol

old swift
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idk if it's actually faster

vocal jewel
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have u had any issues with ellis doing weird things

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like how molly stands up and walks 1m and sits back down if you deposit cancel

old swift
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fortunately not

tall plume
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the only issue I have with Ellis is how jumping will not count you in the upgrade circle

vocal jewel
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upgrade circle should be bigger in general imo

tall plume
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good idea

tacit urchin
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I had her land in a completely different spot to where I called her too once

tall plume
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should throw that in the feedback thread

vocal jewel
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ive had too many close calls where i nearly fell down a cliff because i bounced on someones head trying to get into the circle

old swift
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still have the weird thing where sometimes it'll just land like 3 meters above where i called

tall plume
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but at least she moves fast

vocal jewel
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ye

tacit urchin
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Also... she looks like a catloaf when sitting

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It's pretty cute ngl

tall plume
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even got killed once by it

vocal jewel
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it can also be a bit hard to figure out where exactly she lands

old swift
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no headbounce in rogue core surely

vocal jewel
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molly makes that big loud noise when sitting down so you have directional audio + time to react before you can deposit anyway

old swift
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it's really awkward on the elevators

tacit urchin
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Wait, she doesn't make a sound at all?

old swift
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ive taken nearly half my hp in damage just by getting bumped off someone's head

tacit urchin
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I didn't even bother to check

vocal jewel
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im spoiled by no dwarf collision playing modded drg engipain

old swift
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i prefer headstacking anyway

tacit urchin
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It can be fun sometimes

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or you can save somebody with it

tall plume
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actually used it to get a camera once

vocal jewel
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its fun when you want to do it

tall plume
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just bumped up my friend up there to grab it

vocal jewel
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but 95% of the time when it happens you didn't want it to

tacit urchin
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Yeah, did fall once

vocal jewel
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and without shields to soak up falldamage its way more frustrating than when it happens in drg

old swift
tacit urchin
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Was funny for me so no complains

old swift
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and it looks funnier

vocal jewel
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in drg i take 30 damage oh well i lost 5 hp time to cry about it

tall plume
hasty rain
tall plume
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IMO it felt worse when it was destroying your armor

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I'm fine with it bypassing it

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still feels pretty bad to get damage from falling but you really end up changing your movement behaviour fast due to that, IMO

hasty rain
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imo
the shield is what lets DRG get away with having such comically intense "i dropped down 5 feet and twisted my ankle" fall damage
without that (see: shield disruption), it goes from 'ever so mildly annoying' to 'immensely frustrating'
especially since, again, it's very common to get suddenly yeeted by terrain in DRG

vocal jewel
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yeah bypassing armor is a good thing

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there are some upgrades that rely on your armor being above a certain level and having those go off because i bumped someones head and took 30 falldamage would be very frustrating

tall plume
vocal jewel
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i wonder how much of that lower complexity is the product of being in alpha though

tall plume
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Also there's no such thing like barrels, acorns or the likes who can yeet you around

tall plume
fringe narwhal
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The dreaded tumbleweed

tall plume
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when the armor is gone, you can only rely on supply pod to get it back. There is that one armor regen perk but I've never really seen it do much work. Maybe if you get lucky enough to stack it, it could be good?

vocal jewel
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even when i stacked it it was pretty mediocre

tacit urchin
vocal jewel
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if you have 70 armor and you get 2% back on kill and you kill 10 enemies you get 14 armor

hasty rain
tacit urchin
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Or even lower % but not full hp, which you rarely have

vocal jewel
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14 !!! wow pog

tall plume
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(so fucking bad, oh my god)

tacit urchin
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Temporary hp on slicer is insane if you get 2 ngl

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Like even the swarmers replenish it

tall plume
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yeah temporary HP is pretty good

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but the armor regen perk? meeeeh

vocal jewel
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even picking +armor things feels pointless

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i get +20 armor i get hit one its gone

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i get ammo i have 10 extra i get hit once its gone

tall plume
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I've had a run where I stacked armor up to 215

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it was pretty good

tacit urchin
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Any perks you had that replenished it?

tall plume
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but I had to stack it for it to shine, and pick armor related perks (which the game generously offered to me, I got lucky)

tall plume
tacit urchin
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Oh lmao

vocal jewel
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meanwhile i had 2 vampire + an artifact for power attack recharge and temp hp and i felt like i couldnt die anymore

tacit urchin
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Guardian, I assume?

vocal jewel
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lmao

tall plume
vocal jewel
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i feel like armor needs something going for it at baseline

tall plume
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I'm not sure why armor got nerfed again tbh

tacit urchin
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Wish guardian was leaning a lot more into armour, instead of having less damage taken upgrades

vocal jewel
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you pretty much require synergy for armor to be meaningful and it doesn't have good synergies

tacit urchin
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I imagine we'll get more upgrades later too

vocal jewel
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and a lot of the armor synergy you come across are "x thing happens when you have armor" but how am i supposed to have the armor for it

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and sure armor from ammo box

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but if i heal 200 hp by taking +20 hp i probably net more than all ammo boxes throughout a run if i take +armor

tacit urchin
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Would be cool to include some kind of Transcendence from RoR2 similar artifact
Basically converting all your hp into armour and giving it some kind of regen

median oar
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man bugs be wack, this guy im with just fell through the floor while trying to push escape button

tall plume
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sometimes it can be hard to judge perks because there's just not a lot of them

vocal jewel
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ye

tacit urchin
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Agreed

vocal jewel
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and some ideas are easier to build upon

vocal jewel
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there's a bit of an overabundance of melee stuff rn but that's mostly because there's not enough other things

gritty matrix
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:)

median oar
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hi wingus

tall plume
vocal jewel
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honestly melee feels p good when you get it going

tall plume
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that's just my assuption though

tacit urchin
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I feel like they should add a unique icon for upgrades that come in different qualities (Red sugar one)

tall plume
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agreed, melee works surprisingly well

hasty rain
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I'm assuming a supply still only gives 50% armor
Which, given last I saw yous tart with 30 max armor
15 armor isn't even a single hit worth from what I saw lmao

vocal jewel
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yup the armor from supplies is borderline worthless

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in drg i can resupply in combat for a 75% heal and actually stay alive bcuz of it

tacit urchin
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I mean... would save from a swarmer

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maybe 2

vocal jewel
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in rogue core if you resupply during combat you take like 50 damage and you gain 20 armor back wow good trade

tacit urchin
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Feels like there's a lot more sugar in the RC

vocal jewel
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or you take 150 damage bcuz you first have to open the ammo box

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yes

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and the red sugar healing perks are quite good

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idk if they are intended to give movement speed though

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they might be a bit too good with the move speed but without the move speed they're a lot less interesting

tall plume
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but I think it"s fine to keep it this way

tacit urchin
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Feels like just a nice little bonus most of the time

vocal jewel
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for right now i don't think it does much to make minor number tweaks to stuff that's performing well

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better to wait until the difficulty level of the game is established better before you start doing micro level balancing

gritty matrix
vocal jewel
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i think that perk is placebo more than actually useful

median oar
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THERES A GRAPPLING HOOK

vocal jewel
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yes

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its very good

hasty rain
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It basically upgrades your armor into a clunky shield (one that regens through violence)
so
it'd make the reclaimers approach being half as advanced and geared as the miners lmao

vocal jewel
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i think if you got armor on kill as a built-in mechanic it would make armor way more effective

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it would make more sense as a replacement for shields if it could be regained while still requiring you to put in effort to get it instead of it regenerating for free

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and that would make +armor already have something to interact with

hasty rain
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I've played games where enemies drop armor pickups. Ones other than nuDoom.
It's a good way to encourage "kill fast, kill often, kill close"

vocal jewel
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yea

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vermintide and darktide both also have mechanics where you're encouraged to fight enemies

hasty rain
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If they drop it as a passive-pickup (ie. like red sugar) that would actually open an opportunity for the team to help each other a bit rather than needing to worry about last-hitting.
If armor must be super special, making the pickups have a limited lifetime would work

vocal jewel
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i think having it drop as a pickup would very quickly result in performance issues and visual clutter during later stages with high enemy counts

old swift
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the world needs more golden bugs-like modifiers

median oar
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mission name is crying wealth

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thats so deep </3

hasty rain
gritty matrix
median oar
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game crash...

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</3

gritty matrix
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damn

median oar
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rip epic m1000 and epic autocannon

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it crashed while i was in the space rignotnice

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yeah nah im playing drg survivor

gritty matrix
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ok bye

median oar
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where is drg survivor chat i NEED to chat about drg survivor

signal moon
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isnt a ggg game

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GSG sry

tall plume
median oar
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wonderful

manic sleet
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will there be mod support? custom crosshairs, better fov settings etc.?

lilac heart
tall plume
real wharf
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Any chance we can get the RC zip speeds in DRG?

sharp kite
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Hello, can anyone send an invite for early access?

signal moon
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I think you just need to register on steam

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for an possible invite

sharp kite
signal moon
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then you probably get an invite next wave

lilac heart
sharp kite
signal moon
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Dont know if theyve disclosed when invite waves happen

hollow bear
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They have not

signal moon
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so my guess is as good as yours

tall plume
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No begging.

calm yoke
edgy stump
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Damn

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Didn’t get lucky

crystal echo
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24hour user peak was 86 players mate so you had to be REAL lucky to get in haha

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Maybe next week more of us will be the lucky ones 🙂

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Devs are working their asses of probably to stay on top of this... they have the momentum now

edgy stump
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So

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What you’re saying is that every week i don’t score the chance, my chances increase by a small amount?

acoustic ginkgo
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I do not know those odds but I nonetheless like them

finite laurel
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I doubt the waves will be once a week but more or less, yes

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Unless more people sign up for the alpha than people get let in ofc

frigid path
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Mission Control doesn’t want you to know this but you can get to the Rogue Core by digging straight down for a couple months

finite laurel
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If you sell your soul to Aaron I think your chances increase by 10%

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It only just occured to me that the Slicer's helmet is a medieval armet/close helm

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That's cool

native monolith
frigid path
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You gotta eat rocks for breakfast every day

median sleet
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(you can actually dig under the barrier RN)

native monolith
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I really hope that’s kept in a voice line joke when it’s fixed

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“Couldn’t we just dig under the barrier?”

median sleet
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Have the AI get mad when you try it

native monolith
fringe narwhal
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Speaking of the mission control Ai. A lot of things seem very similar to Rival tech Sconk

robust yoke
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instead of having to repeatedly drive away the rival tech DRG corporate decided to solve the problem by buying the company behind them drillchamp

native monolith
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The miners complain CONSTANTLY about outdated equipment, cheapened products, R&D is known for taking wack shortcuts etc

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Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the “rival” skin pack called like “cutting edge (technology)”

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All of the weapons in DRG are either from deepcore, a corporation known for mass produced and dubious quality weapons, vintage gear like the M1000, or wacky DUI weapons that the maniacal scientists at R&D develop like the Colette

gritty matrix
native monolith
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Indeed, but I don’t think that rogue core is just them stealing their weapons

gritty matrix
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wouldnt say that about the stuff in rogue core tho

native monolith
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For example the P96 has basically nothing to do with rivals, but it’s a modern (laser) weapon

gritty matrix
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drg dug too deep fellas......

native monolith
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I think slicers sword is just what modern tech looks like

round flower
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thanks it doesnt cure my adhd and autism tho

native monolith
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Rivals, despite their modern tech, cannot beat the indomitable drunken dwarf spirit

gritty matrix
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the reclaimers suits are fancy because thats what it looks like when drg doesnt cheap out for once. i think.....

native monolith
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Kind shows how dwarves are just built different because there’s not a significant amount of them lore wise and they bat away modern robotic weaponry

gritty matrix
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all the weapons are reasonably hodge podge

native monolith
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The only DRG weapon that I think could be modern would be the ommoran but I would bet that thing explodes a lot because there’s living explosive rock powering it

round flower
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i really hope that i can be a playtester for rouge core bc it basically combines two things that i like wich are rougelikes and ofc drg

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otherwise im gonna cry more

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bc autism

olive hound
round flower
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i hate autism

gritty matrix
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game will be out eventually, do not fear

round flower
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i know but its just not the same

gritty matrix
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also when the game releases itll be in a much cleaner state than rn nice

round flower
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yes

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but

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content

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and i wanna really help the devs find bugs in the very early builds

fringe narwhal
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There are actually no glyphids in the game. So you won't find many bugs

gritty matrix
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you may fall through the cave floor a couple times though

olive hound
round flower
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GOOD

upbeat robin
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Anyone want to actually play?

round flower
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I LOVE WHEN GAMES ARE A BUGGY MESS BC THAT MEANS MORE/BETTER CONTENT

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not trying promote my youtube tho

olive hound
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Sure...

crystal echo
round flower
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but once i DO get rouge core im instantly opening obs studio

upbeat robin
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wanna get some people on

crystal echo
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not invited mate haha, so have fun...

round flower
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well its time to rock n stone for me

upbeat robin
median sleet
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there's a lfg channel

upbeat robin
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i dont have access to those

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idk why

median sleet
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Click the ingame discord invite

round flower
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oh my

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i have 57.6 hours on drg

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thats more playtime than on helldivers 2

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damn

gritty raptor
upbeat robin
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150 ish on drg

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only 2k on rust oops

gritty raptor
upbeat robin
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it never ends

gritty matrix
upbeat robin
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one where i got stuck in the floor

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(do not jump into the gate)

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and the other one where i died

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my teammate escaped in the elevator

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and got stuck at the top of it

fringe narwhal
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Peak

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Game of the year

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All the awards

long breach
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Expenite lootbug nice

gritty raptor
fringe narwhal
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Peakbug

gritty matrix
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although the dwarves currently think theyre made of gold

long breach
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lmaooooo i havent been able to ping stupid things yet due to having only played solo

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just another one of those things to be changed later and is currently placecholder lol

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Cooper still gets called Bosco when i ping him for example

chrome sundial
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COOPAH!

hidden hornet
knotty eagle
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Is there any way to get playtest access apart from being a content creator? I feel like I'd have a lot of valuable input as someone who primarily plays roguelikes/lites

knotty eagle
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Thanks, i guess i need to win the lottery for the next wave then

compact shard
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I mean, I think at least a few other people interested in the game would have experience with other games in the genre, so I wouldn't worry about a lack of that for this initial test

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If you notice anything glaring from the videos, you can talk about it here or in the suggestion channel

finite laurel
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I really wonder if they pan on changing the model

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Or if it's just a new name

viral ether
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Just waiting for someone to rip all the new music from the files 🤞

feral palm
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They added a female dwarf into rogue core (real)

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Very happy

stable flower
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We should have melees in rogure core

compact shard
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@weary torrent they have stated in the dev streams that there will be an extraction sequence

tall plume
stable flower
stable flower
feral palm
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I love having 0 effective range!!!!

tacit urchin
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Yeah, but you get like stupid amounts of temporary hp though

gritty raptor
# tall plume we kinda do

I feel like the movement speed nerf after hitting an enemy is too much to make a melee build viable

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unless there's an upgrade at one point that negates that but I mean unless you get lucky and get it then you can't really melee no?

young vessel
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you're telling me they still have the pickaxe slowdown debuff? after replacing molly with a flying drone and adding a timer mechanic that encourages a faster-paced gameplay?

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this is unreal... 5

ember viper
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this is unreal…. tournament

delicate flax
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i'm personally trying my best to avoid any spoilers or gameplay of rogue core so i can enjoy it myself

daring hill
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thats a good idea

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a lot of people are unfortunately taking videos and using only that to form a judgement on the game

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and surprisingly (or maybe not) the people i see doing that most view the game negatively

tall plume
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they're just looking to complain and will use anything to solidify their opinions

blissful geyser
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They'll have the chance to change their minds if and when they play the game themselves

tall plume
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I personally hope they won't play

blissful geyser
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?

tall plume
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there's better way for them to spend their energy

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they're obviously only interested in complaining so I'd rather they bugger off ASAP personally

daring hill
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anyway im done with Rogue Core until the next big update happens. gonna be weird to go back to DRG

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despite my 700 hours

blissful geyser
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Some people might be like that sure but if you don't have an alpha invite then what are you supposed to do but watch videos and try to draw some kind of ideas about the game. I'm sure for every person who thinks it looks bad there's 2 or 3 who think it looks great and they're just less vocal so far.

tall plume
blissful geyser
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Ah, well if you mean a specific person then fair.

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I thought you just meant in general.

young vessel
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i think what they have now shows some good directions they can go for it

inner granite
feral palm
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I just love roguelikes and wanna play this game cause the wrist gauntlets are super cool to me

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🐀

inner granite
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La Rat

feral palm
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Me when there are placeholders in an early alpha (it's completely unacceptable)

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But jokes aside I know the game is super new and unfinished but man it looks so cool

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And with the devs almost confirming they'll be adding more gauntlets to the game makes me happy

young vessel
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so true tee hee

feral palm
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And real female dwarves

daring hill
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I've said this before but Rogue Core looks (key word, LOOKS) so much more finished than DRG was in its own alpha that its not even funny

young vessel
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i like drg but having the ability to pick meta loadouts gets a little stale sometimes so i think i'll really appreciate the random weapons and upgrades thing

daring hill
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and no, im not talking about the use of DRG assets

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not totally at least

tall plume
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I remember how DRG looked at day one in Early Access drillchamp

young vessel
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they got toirlets

daring hill
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like... people think THIS looks unfinished? I could name the amount of explicitly unfinished assets on one hand!

feral palm
daring hill
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...probably

feral palm
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I mean

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It's a little obviously unfinished

young vessel
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they should add a bullpup weapon

feral palm
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A lot of reused assets, some huds are a little clunky, some mechanics need a little work, and overall the polish isn't all there, but it looks so fucking good so far

young vessel
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infact remodel the gk2 to be bullpup and call it the gk3

daring hill
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true, but theres a decent chunk of assets that exist right now that could be the exact same the entire way through alpha and early access, and you wouldn't bat an eye

feral palm
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Yeh

daring hill
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thats how good some of the models are

feral palm
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I agree

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Especially the wrist gauntlets

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The models are gorgeous

daring hill
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it is funny to have that dichotomy though

feral palm
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The gorgeous weapon models and animations and then the png huds

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Makes me laugh

daring hill
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like, you'll have that gorgeous looking rock cracker event, and look 30 degrees to your right and theres the elevator where the shaft doesn't even reach the top of the cave

feral palm
daring hill
#

or the expenite crassus event where its just cubes

#

very funny to me

feral palm
#

True

tall plume
#

C U B E

feral palm
#

Game has a lot going for it tho

#

I like all the new weapons I've seen so far

young vessel
feral palm
#

I'd like to see more utility outside of the base drg stuff

#

More mobility tools n support options

tall plume
feral palm
#

Hell yeah

young vessel
#

jump pad

tall plume
#

turns out it's pretty hard to come out with original ideas that aren't functionally the same as already existing options

young vessel
#

everyone's favorite

inner granite
feral palm
#

A throwable jump pad would be cute tbh

young vessel
#

what about jump pad that shoots another jump pad where you aim it and that jump pad then aims backwards towards the first jump pad

visual latch
#

Portal gun

feral palm
#

Or like an antigravity cylinder

feral palm
#

I hope a reclaimer has a wrist attachment that gives them mobility

young vessel
feral palm
#

Like a dash punch that stuns

mossy ruin
feral palm
#

Ooh anti grav goop gun

feral palm
young vessel
feral palm
#

I think you'd have to limit it to like

#

1 per resupply

vocal torrent
#

is there the music of rogue core trailer out or not ?

daring hill
#

there won't be a soundtrack release until early access, and even then probably not for a while

#

and people aren't really allowed to share the music around

#

but it is in the game

thin apex
vocal torrent
#

well i will wait then, i love how they did the trailer with the sound of the alarm synch with the guns fire and such

median sleet
#

They should add engineer to Rogue Core and not acknowledge him at all

tidal sorrel
#

anyone for a run?

elder flame
#

I’m guessing that the chances of getting access to the closed beta now are slim to none right?

median sleet
#

there will be more invite waves

elder flame
#

Oh sick

#

And I can invite a friend?

median sleet
#

If you get in because a dev gave you a key, then no

inner granite
#

you can not invite if your firend invited you tho

elder flame
#

Fair

inner granite
elder flame
#

Only chances of the devs giving me a key is if I get a make a wish

median sleet
#

it's fixed now though

inner granite
elder flame
#

Now final game on the other hand

broken flame
#

As long as you requested access on the steam page :p

#

Now are they ever gonna be high at all whatsoever? Probably not

novel granite
#

Is rogue core alpha for content creators only?

inner granite
#

no

novel granite
#

oh I see, steam page

#

right

edgy stump
#

I am curious

#

Are those who get access required to fill out some kind of form, orrr…?

vocal jewel
#

no

summer tiger
inner granite
vocal jewel
#

damn they accepted your soul?

ashen condor
#

I heard that if you get into the playtest you're obligated to give GSG your left kidney

vocal jewel
#

i had to sell my lobster

inner granite
edgy stump
finite laurel
#

In the first dev stream they said that's up to the testers themselves

daring hill
#

IMO you definitely should, this is a privilege first and foremost

#

If you get access but only play for fun and don't report bugs or provide feedback, I shake my head at you disappointedly

#

You don't see it but I am

summer tiger
edgy stump
#

Ah, alright

novel granite
near leaf
daring hill
near leaf
#

thank you sir

rustic crown
#

Are there any rules about uploading the new rogue core alpha ost to youtube?
Not asking as someone who has access to it, just as someone who really wants to tune into the new songs without gameplay sfxs budging in from random gameplay videos on youtube.

olive narwhal
#

Someone did rip the music but as its stands not currently since its still wip

#

As in no to uploading it currently

native monolith
#

Sad but understandable

rustic crown
#

Pretty much what I expected, thanks for the response though

olive narwhal
#

The good news is when it does eventually make its way out of the games theres alot of music currently

rustic crown
#

Yep, I heard
DRGs ost is amazing and I’m so glad vol.3 came into reality

lilac heart
#

Too bad it’s not streamed on all platforms

merry lagoon
#

Ghost Ship Dev's!!! Give me access to Rogue Core and my sleep schedule is yours!!!

pulsar owl
#

Regrettably, I don't think they will want your sleep schedule

latent tendon
compact shard
#

Maybe we could buy tickets to travel to gsg studio and protest outside until we get alpha keys

inner granite
#

I would go to GSG HQ even just to visit

#

To see how their work looks like

distant comet
#

man im jealous

#

i wanna play this game 😭

young vessel
#

yknow, from the videos i see, i think the colors of the text in descriptions of upgrades might be a little confusing, it does tell you which part gets increased with multiple copies of the same upgrade but sometimes its yellow where most others are green, and the part of the effect that doesnt increase is also green, methinks it should just have the important parts be yellow and the stack-increasing parts be green

obtuse hornet
#

Good morning guys, could someone tell me where to report bugs for the closed alpha of Rogue Core?

young vessel
#

they got a discord button when you launch the game i think, that gives you access to all the rogue core testing channels

obtuse hornet
uneven vessel
#

How do i provide feedback as i have found an infinite exp glitch and dont know where i should report it / if its an intended feature

young vessel
uneven vessel
#

ah thanks

finite tundra
#

do we know when next testing wave is

finite tundra
#

And if it was for testing or something

#

It would be a button or command not some method or glitch

finite tundra
elder cedar
#

to anyone who has played: What are you impressions?

finite tundra
#

The last one stands for drg too

median sleet
finite tundra
#

Slicer is my favorite. You pull out the ultrakill parry animation to slice a bunch of bugs at once

#

Very epic

median sleet
#

I thought I'd like the falconeer the most. But she ended up being my least favorite.

finite tundra
#

Falconeer looks hella underpowered

median sleet
#

IDK if it's underpowered. It's just very hard to tell if the falcon is actually doing something

#

the only moments when you see the falcon is when you send them of and when they return a bit later

finite tundra
#

Honestly I think it’d make more sense if the falcon was always out and the ability boosted it

#

Also the falcon should be present in the load out screen model

#

On her wrist

trail storm
#

hey will rogue core have a bosco for solo players who cant get their friends interested in deep rock? pretty please

trail storm
#

oh?

finite tundra
#

Already

trail storm
#

sweet

finite tundra
#

Yeah it’s had bosco

#

2 revives

#

The only class I’m interested in is slicer tbh

#

Falconeer seems gimmicky and underpowered

#

Guardians shield isn’t a shield it’s just like bug repellent

#

Spotter is nice

#

I have no issues with spotter

#

But slicer just seems like it would be more fun

ivory bloom
#

actually kinda gave up for now. Just the dwarf feels like made out of paper taking too much damage but I'm just going to say how it was for me.

finite tundra
sturdy blade
#

And tbh, after watching many streams, and even Falconer POV, I still couldn't tell u what the bird even does besides act like Engi's shredder drone

hasty rain
#

From the videos I watched: the bird flies around and expends 1 energy section to fire once. If you have some means of regaining special, that works while the bird is out, otherwise it doesn’t look like the meter recharges while it’s out?

#

I am uncertain how much damage it does, hard to tell with how much the screen was jerking around because go fast

naive lodge
#

Chat is rc crassus worth or still trash?

verbal wolf
#

RC has Crassus?

naive lodge
#

Saw in a video by sniss. They put it in gay baby jail

hasty rain
#

It explodes into expenite, so

rare dune
#

its almost been 1 week since the previous alpha launch... and almost one week is halfway to 2 weeks and 2 weeks might be a new alpha distribution so the game is basically already out

hollow bear
#

if you find it with good time left, it's worth

#

and it's one hit, so not suffering like slapping gold

balmy dagger
#

Hey I've been playing the alpha for the past few days and realized I don't have access to any of the private channels (I recieved an email invite). Can anyone help me out with this?

pulsar owl
young vessel
balmy dagger
pulsar owl
#

Then you may have to contact a mod or otherwise

upbeat robin
#

hey i dont have access the the rogue core closed alpha channels either

carmine zenith
#

Contacting a mod is not the correct choice

upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

If you want access to the alpha channels, then open rogue core and click the link

upbeat robin
#

that is just an invite to this discord serrver

#

the closed alpha channels are role locked

carmine zenith
#

I'm aware

upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

tell me what the first line says

upbeat robin
#

go press that button

carmine zenith
#

no shit sherlock

upbeat robin
#

how do you think i even got here

carmine zenith
#

of course it leads to the server

upbeat robin
#

im asking for a role

carmine zenith
#

but it also specifically says :"Join the exclusive playtest channel"

upbeat robin
#

not to talk to a unhelpful moderator

carmine zenith
#

as in

young vessel
#

now just to be sure, you did click the link? just to make sure its not just an invite?

carmine zenith
#

CLICKING THIS LINK GIVES YOU ACCESS

upbeat robin
upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

it quite literally is how it works, it's managed by a bot

#

now if the bot isn't working, then that's another thing

upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

but that's how you gain access

upbeat robin
#

because i pressed the link

#

ive said this 3 times already

young vessel
#

have you tried it a second time

upbeat robin
#

but ill go do that

#

suprise

#

doesnt work

#

and thats the normal server vanity link

#

how tf would a bot detect i joined through rogue core

#

makes no sense

carmine zenith
#

the same way the bot that gives you a miner's union role works and detects your union from in game

upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

no

upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

we don't mess with the bot assigned only roles

young vessel
#

especially with two people making the same comment in a short amount of time, maybe the bot is a little drunk tonight

carmine zenith
#

I just tried it and it gave me the role

upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

as my proof that I didn't just give it to myself

young vessel
#

i remember the union bot needing to "link accounts" or something, maybe theres an issue somewhere there

upbeat robin
#

JUST GIVE ME THE BLOODY ROLE

carmine zenith
#

Steps I followed:

  1. clicked the link in game

link opened web browser to discord

  1. signed into account

accepted invite in browser

  1. clicked link to continue to discord

gave permissions to browser to open link in discord

  1. Landed in friends list on discord desktop app and returned to the server where I checked my roles and had it
carmine zenith
#

it doesn't show on their profile so I can't say

upbeat robin
carmine zenith
#

under the connections menu in your account settings

ivory bloom
# finite tundra I mean there is health upgrades right?

yea +20 HP health upgrade which stops 1 attack woopie. Doesn't help much when being hit multiple times a second at times. I only get it for the HP restore which is almost always unfortunately. Also remembering I'm playing solo so I don't get the benefit of being revived infinitely by team long as they survive. Sure, this supposed to be focused on co-op but there's a solo option and I wanna solo.

ivory bloom
#

I'm also one of those ppl who don't do hazard 5 on DRG for a reason. Too difficult and stressful

bold gust
#

Not to be that guy but I’ve yet to come across any problems as a solo player?

carmine zenith
bold gust
#

Damn

#

Seems I’m hitting it rich

upbeat robin
#

hammer caster 58 mm with corrosive upgrade + cryo upgrade is op

bold gust
#

What’s the hammer caster?

#

That one of the new guns?

balmy dagger
carmine zenith
#

you'd unfortunately have to keep trying until it did

#

I was trying to provide troubleshooting steps with the last person, but they stopped responding on how things were going if they even tried at all

#

you can try connecting your steam profile to discord first if it's not connected already, and then try the steps again

#

shut down the game fully in the meantime

#

the steps for getting the union bots to work were

[Make sure to restart the game after trying every fix]
Online on both Steam and Discord and make sure you're not invisible (thx to Freemysoul !)
Make sure the discord server isn't muted (thx to Chindian for this one !)
You can try using the browser instead of the app (or the other way around)
You can also try having steam and discord running on administrator mode (thx to Marcos for this one !)
If nothing work, check this message : ⁠drg-chat⁠
For linux, you can use https://github.com/0e4ef622/wine-discord-ipc-bridge to access the union (thanks to neijr for this !)

keep in mind : the bot is half-broken, so it's only working when it wants to

GitHub

Enable games running under wine to use Discord Rich Presence - 0e4ef622/wine-discord-ipc-bridge

finite tundra
#

What’s goin on?

carmine zenith
#

mind you, I managed to do it while invisible on discord so you can likely ignore that step

#

this is a different bot than the miner's union bot, but I'd imagine it runs somewhat similarly

#

@balmy dagger

carmine zenith
finite tundra
#

Yeah I just scrolled up a bit

#

Seems like community trouble shooting mixed with an insufferable person

carmine zenith
#

that's usually how it goes

balmy dagger
#

Just tried connecting steam to discord and restarting etc. All of those other options we're already done, ill just keep trying

finite tundra
carmine zenith
#

sometimes I get to be the insufferable one, so it evens out

carmine zenith
finite tundra
#

I’m just waiting for the day when steams randomized little magic hat of early access pulls my name out.

#

Accidental reply

carmine zenith
finite tundra
#

Jesus Christ you have every role under the sun

carmine zenith
#

almost, there's a few I haven't bothered adding

finite tundra
#

Omnilingual

carmine zenith
#

most were originally there for channel access while our perms were a mess, and they just got left on

severe nymph
#

Sick

formal drum
#

has there been any news on when the next wave of invites might be sent out?

severe nymph
#

Nope

formal drum
#

pain

carmine zenith
#

not to my knowledge, no

young vessel
finite tundra
#

Dwarven poetry

#

Rare as the dwarves don’t show much intelligence since beer drinking begins at birth

severe nymph
#

Hey just cus the dwarves are rough and hardy doesn't make them inherently dumb

carmine zenith
# balmy dagger yup

hopefully one of the devs can give more insight later on it, sorry we couldn't use the old steps to get it going in the meantime

finite tundra
carmine zenith
#

the only other guess I have is to try setting yourself to online status in both discord and steam, restarting both, and trying again but that's something we use as a troubleshooting step for creating steam game invites got drg

#

Thank you for at least giving them a shot btw, @balmy dagger

finite tundra
#

Come to think of it I have never seen a shower on any of the drg or rogue core rigs. The only time I hear anything about cleaning or health is when rockpox is involved. Are they just not showering if they don’t encounter rock pox?

pliant radish
#

Can I just preorder Rogue Core?

#

I want to give them my money, idc if the game is a hot pile of trash, they deserve the cash

finite tundra
median oar
#

erm chat

median oar
#

my roguecore updates

severe nymph
#

It's bad and the worst game isn't it

#

It's actually really BAD and gsg HATES there fans

median oar
#

i got a 120mb update for roguecore

#

new class

#

trust

severe nymph
#

👀

#

Heck yes

pliant radish
#

idk any company that doesn't want to take ya money, except these folk. Makes me respect them even more

severe nymph
#

Most indies definitely have quality over profit

median oar
#

im actually wondering how many people they let in

#

because there are 3 lobbies playing roguecore right now

#

nvm

#

4

solid patrol
median oar
#

guess so

crystal echo
#

Only 200 invites, rest is devs

#

They only had that many users in the start, now it hangs around 40max per day it seems... So yeah not much lobbies

upbeat robin
#

got to facility 2 yay

#

58mm grenade launcher is the best weapon

delicate flax
#

i cant say random bullshit about rogue core being "released" anymore because the game is out for closed alpha playtesting :(

#

the shrondible red bopple will always be in my memory or something

severe nymph
upbeat robin
#

splash is non existant

#

8 rounds per mag

tall plume
upbeat robin
#

58 default

tall plume
#

it fires bullets, not grenades

upbeat robin
upbeat robin
severe nymph
#

I cast magic hammer nice

#

What's that weapon do

old swift
#

casts hammers

severe nymph
#

Shit....

upbeat robin
severe nymph
#

It's obvious.......why didn't I think of thag

finite tundra
#

I wonder if they will have trjaudio music on rogue core

tall plume
finite tundra
#

Oh alr

tall plume
#

And Sophus did the music

#

Troels was the sound designer. He did help Sophus with the tracks and composed 2 of them himself.

finite tundra
tall plume
finite tundra
severe nymph
#

I wonder what else has sophus has worked on

#

Besides drg and rc

tall plume
#

he has an instagram though

severe nymph
#

👀

tall plume
#

anyway, just look up Sophus Alf Agerbæk-Larsen on google and you'll find some info

finite tundra
severe nymph
#

Yeah

finite tundra
#

I don’t see anything but deep rock soundtrack

daring hill
#

yeah its not out yet

finite tundra
#

I’m not complaining it’s fire

daring hill
#

the rogue core soundtrack

finite tundra
#

Oof

daring hill
#

wont be out until a year or more from now

finite tundra
#

It’s closed alpha that’s to be expected

tall plume
#

it's worth the wait though

finite tundra
#

God my impatience is killing me

#

I’m excited and scared of the next tester wave

#

Excited I get the chance to play the game scared because chance is a word I always avoid

daring hill
#

fun fact: i gathered it all, theres 1 hour and 26 minutes of new music here

#

this early, which is crazy

#

and not a single dud

glossy burrow
#

Do we know if Rogue Core is coming to ps4?

tall plume
glossy burrow
#

Got it! Thanks

severe nymph
#

But I wouldn't doubt jt really

#

I don't particularly see why not

latent viper
#

I can't wait for Rogue Core

#

Gamers are eating good in 2025

#

Rogue Core and Subnautica 2 early access

glossy burrow
#

And don't forget about Silksong!

latent viper
#

Oh right!

glossy burrow
#

Silk and Song in the heart

latent viper
#

not a hollow knight gamer but I definitely can see why ppl are excited for it

glossy burrow
#

Now we just need Binding of Isaac 2 to complete the gamer infinity stones

latent viper
#

or Titanfall 3

#

and GTA VI

#

bruh at this rate we'll get MInecraft 2.0 before GTA VI

finite tundra
#

And the new soulsborn game locked behind a overpriced Nintendo console

latent viper
#

bruh everything is literally 50% more expensive

#

this is utterly nonsense

finite tundra
#

The Nintendo costing more is whatever but the games

#

I would buy the Nintendo switch 2

#

If the games weren’t expensive

tall plume
finite tundra
#

Drg on Nintendo real?

#

The game laggy on ps4 would have no issues on a handheld

#

At all

latent viper
#

But then they'd have to deal with Nintendo Online breather

finite tundra
latent viper
#

Unless of course third-party games are immune

finite tundra
#

Dealing with annoying companies

latent viper
#

Like Rocket League iirc

#

big sad

finite tundra
#

Console online subscriptions feel so stupid to me

latent viper
#

Yeah ikr

finite tundra
#

I’m paying for the hardware why am I paying to use it for anything but solo play

latent viper
#

I'm a PC gamer because paying to play online is an utter scam

finite tundra
#

Stream deck is the only console I can reccomend

#

Steam*

latent viper
#

That's basically a handheld PC

finite tundra
#

That’s kind of the point

latent viper
#

I'd consider getting one, especially after Windows 10 gets deleted

#

or dropped support or whatever

#

Maybe I'll switch to Steam OS and learn the dark arts of Linux just so I can use an OS that's supported

finite tundra
#

My only issue with Linus is the lack of support for it from most software developers

latent viper
#

For a second I thought you were talking about the Charlie Brown guy and I got really confused

finite tundra
#

We are so side tracked

latent viper
#

linux is trapped in Microsoft's basement?

latent viper
finite tundra
#

Don’t worry this is def talking about rogue core

#

Some how

#

Maybe

#

If I can’t play the game I’ll just have to read the game

#

Has anybody modded drg so you can play doom on the arcade machine yet

latent viper
#

"Can you run doom on it" has officiallty invaded DRG

finite tundra
#

If I can run doom on a heart monitor I should be able to play it in drg

latent viper
#

Wait what

tall plume
#

alright, it's time to leave the rogue core channel free of off-topic at this point

finite tundra
#

My bad

#

I got adhd I know how to switch a topic faster than I can switch from objects to focus on

carmine zenith
vital hinge
#

Makes sense, heard something similar

supple pike
#

i'm really interested in the "meta progression" elements implemented so far, but i've not seen anyone detailing the skill tree abilities. does anyone know what all of those are?

tall plume
#

there is barely any meta progression atm

#

just passive boosts you unlock and equip on classes

#

and they're not very interesting, it's just base stats upgrades

supple pike
#

i just saw in sniss' video that some are better than others, but can stack with previous versions of themselves. like +25 health and +30 health being level 1 and 2

tall plume
#

like "+40 health" or the like

supple pike
#

yeah but i'd still like to see them all because i don't know what they all are. that's the question

finite tundra
#

Are we able to piss off omega to the point where it just locks our gear from working

#

Like how we bullied Mission Control in drg

severe nymph
#

I hope so

tall plume
#

keep in mind, this is all very much subject to change

supple pike
#

right, just like a majority of everything else.

median sleet
#

They're also planning to make the reclaimers elves instead of dwarves. Since only elves would be good enough to be part of an elite team

severe nymph
#

First gsg title to make negative money

inner granite
#

He's right but also wrong

grave cradle
#

Would be cool if in Rogue core armor wasnt just cosmetic but had different effects

finite tundra
#

Description: a pair of underwear.

#

The perfect armor

zenith peak
#

dude if they ever add lategame upgrades for classes(like how overclocks are to weapon upgrades) they should give the slicer a shield so you can be a proper knight

blissful geyser
#

Risk of Rain 2 gameplay: run fast kid cause if you get hit you're gonna die!

quaint monolith
#

Omega every 2 seconds:

Reclaimers, reclaimers
Reclaimers

Hey reclaimers!

Reclaimers

#

omega 1 second after ^ : reclaimers hello

#

way too much yapping

random drift
#

Hi guys! does anyone know how do devs pick players for the playtest
Is it just random?

astral sluice
#

omega every 2 words in a sentence: r-r-reclaimers, there are ho-ho-hostiles a-a-a-a-apporaching

quaint monolith
#

By the way, reclaimers we got hostiles a-a-a-approaching

daring hill
astral sluice
ripe spear
#

probably pretty low, but you could also go on the steam page and request access

runic verge
#

expected thanks

#

is it one invite for a friend?

daring hill
#

omega is not glitching out or anything he's just freaked the fuck out

#

he's new to the job

runic verge
astral sluice
#

petition to call Omega by the correct pronouns (it/its)

daring hill
quaint monolith
#

Someone tell omega to say "Reclaimers" less often btw xd

#

Take a shot every time it says that word and Ur Gona be blackout drunk

runic verge
daring hill
#

probably not?

runic verge
#

yeah im a bit out of the loop thanks

astral sluice
#

just sign up on steam and pray

runic verge
#

already did

astral sluice
#

there's no trick to it

runic verge
#

screaming and crying when i missed it

astral sluice
#

it doesn't matter when you signed up

runic verge
#

i missed the first wave

daring hill
#

i think from now on it'll be steam

#

but they'll likely be letting in a LOT more people

runic verge
#

hopefully 🙏

#

rock and stone brothers

quaint monolith
daring hill
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also note that invites wont be for a while. starting monday GSG is gonna be working on more content rather than fixes and tweaks

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not much point in allowing more people in before theres more stuff to feedback/report

tall plume
tidal crane
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I hope they don't get rid of the DRG weapons added to the game currently. I think the new weapons are important, but that doesn't mean breaking the rules of drg weapons can't be fun either. I would love to make a Hurricane shoot twice as fast and have a giant mag with cryo damage or some other crap that regular gameplay doesn't

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I bring this up because the latest stream near the end the devs talked about if they were gonna keep the drg weapons

finite laurel
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They said some would stay and have unstable overclocks as possible modifiers

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But you won’t get all 24

olive narwhal
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Things like cyro cannon and flamer are not currently playing nice with the new elemental system

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So i would suspect that some weapons will not make the cut

void bough
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Oh shit is the falconeer a woman?

olive narwhal
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Yes

void bough
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LESGO

chrome phoenix
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Anyone else disappointed that you don't need to extract after beating the boss?

void bough
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I heard there might be plans to add that?

chrome phoenix
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Hope so. It really feels anti climatic that it just ends without any desperate escape

mossy ruin
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they plan an extraction sequence

void bough
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I could see it being something like the last of the corespawn in the area getting desperate and going for you

olive narwhal
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They have alot of plans that are not in place this early into the alpha

chrome phoenix
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Having them endlessly pour out of the final hole and chase you back to the elevator would be more than enough

void bough
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I also hope there're more scenarios for levels and finales

raven wharf
chrome phoenix
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Yeah that's fair but I feel that's part of the core gameplay loop though

hollow bear
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Pun detected

olive narwhal
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Its still important to get everything that comes before extraction right

chrome phoenix
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I feel like there would be a benefit from more frequent upgrades during the run.

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There arnt really than many choices in a single run

wary tiger
toxic acorn
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Has there been any word for when this game is coming out yet?

raven wharf
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Pinned messages

grave cradle
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I would also assume there will be more boss types than just the Gotoorak gatekeeper

crystal echo
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Its saturday and we got 36 players playing and nobody streaming, I really need my daily fix guys 🙂 hahaha

mossy ruin
crystal echo
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When I go to bed I check my email real quick and when I wake up I do the same lol, this is getting out of hand... (and this discord chan) haha

mossy ruin
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but you get like ~8 upgrades, 1-2 artifacts, ~3 bio booster per run

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I think that's plenty, as far as the length of facility 1 goes

vocal jewel
tall plume
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yeah it's currently incomplete

errant kiln
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Game cool

wispy oyster
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I was expecting Rogue Core to refine the Dwarf model size so the movement and collisions feel less bulky, and visual effects to be more subtle/"thin" so the action stay readable and the screen is less clutered. I don't mind clutter in Helldivers 2 or EDF when you get overwhelmed, but in DRG I find it makes the game unsatisfying (even if I love it overall).

What do you guys think about that, ever experienced it?

fast sable
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How long have you guys been playing the Rogue Core?

errant kiln
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Scratch that 4

fast sable
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I really like the setting in the Rogue Core where you can encounter a damaged M.U.L.E, and you can get some rewards after repairing it. I hope there will be more Easter eggs like this.

errant kiln
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The coolest thing I’ve seen are the events like that one

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I like the hammer drill too

fast sable
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A green bulk in the RC, lol.

errant kiln
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They should ad the bulk to survivor as well make it so the area around it explodes turns to gold

raven wharf
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GSG does not develop DRG survivor

errant kiln
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Oh ok

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My point still stands just other nerd need to do it

summer tiger
summer tiger
summer tiger
rustic matrix
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does cooper have upgrades like bosco has?

young vessel
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they get +5 damage per upgrade

rustic matrix
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i mean good ones

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like faster mining

young vessel
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probably not

tall plume
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not currently

rustic matrix
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can you disable him to play true solo?

tall plume
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don't think so

rustic matrix
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it seems he is just a revive bot for now

summer tiger
steel summit
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Do we know if the invites are going out in waves or a trickle?

summer tiger
steel summit
summer tiger
steel summit
raven wharf
daring hill
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That reasoning just does not make sense, especially when similarly linear missions in DRG require more backtracking.

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If the backtracking in rogue core is too much for extraction, than the exact same applies to DRG

fierce bone
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I think I am in the acceptance stage of the 5 stages of grief now

neon helm
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Are there any plans for some kind of healer class or a class that can buff other players?

mossy ruin
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we don't know
and I think the devs don't know either

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but it's clear the devs want your mistakes to matter (with resupplies only giving armor, and armor not regenerating)