rogue-core-chat

[fierce solstice]

You know they're normal lads since they don't stay in drg chat too long

[brave oriole]

Ah, so its just a thing that is given to a person

[tall plume]

yeah

[brave oriole]

👍

Thx for the answer

[fierce solstice]

Content creators might be part of the alpha as well

[tall plume]

some might, doubtful it'll be all of them

for the rest of players, it's likely going to be all about luck

[fierce solstice]

I should be part of the closed alpha team as well because i'm lovey dovey with samy and i know samy is loved by the devs too

[icy vapor]

I'm holding out hope the devs do a mix of some hand picking, the bulk as lottery pick from sign-ups, and some just handing out of alpha keys. Gives a nice cross-section for testing.

[fierce solstice]

The question is also to know how many people will be picked up

[icy vapor]

Go look at all the names in the memorial hall, and then realize the community was a lot smaller back then. I couldn't even hazard a guess as to the percentage of the DRG playerbase that would be realistic, but assume a fairly small percentage for the first batch in Q1. And remember all of this is guesswork on my part, since the devs don't know/won't share their plans. :)

[fierce solstice]

Well the steam chart alone is a good representation

[carmine zenith]

Correct

[fierce solstice]

Now i don't mind joining the alpha if i can rob hoxxes' core too

[hallow hedge]

Finally had a chance to really sit back and listen to the rogue core announcement/showcase, it's great to see the devs excited about this and I'm hoping they learn a lot while making rogue core that they can use to integrate storytelling into content a lot more cleanly.

One thing I really hope carries over from DRG to DRG:RC (aside from the horde/looter shooter, of course) is the high amounts of personal expression through builds, both between missions and during the course of each dive to the core.

As for DRG itself, I feel like either I'm too old of a player, or there needs to be some kind of larger progression system (Monster Hunter is something I've thought about recently, with three different game stages alongside minimal "achievements" for silver/gold-crowned monster sizes that provides a minimal extreme-distance checkpoint to go for), because as it is the game feels empty, with new seasonal content being fairly short-lived.
From the way the seasons have been going, it seems like striking that balance of replayability and new player appeal has been rather difficult, and so I'm hoping Rogue Core will allow everyone to step back, get a breath of fresh air, and hopefully figure out a different approach for maintaining the game in a satisfying and sustainable manner.

oh there's #rogue-core-suggestions lmao

[hallow hedge]

ig while it's still fresh, are there any particular types of suggestions that are encouraged/should be avoided? (ping me for replies or discord scroll will make them lost forever)
currently thinking of general/thematic stuff but also the impact some mechanics would have in other parts of the experience

[brave oriole]

I don't think so, just follow the rules and make realistic suggestions, also try to not repeat recent ones.

[hallow hedge]

hmm
I've ""just"" started typing up some suggestions for core game systems and I'm already 400 characters over discord's message limit, oh dear

any way to submit a longer set of related posts?

[pure lake]

My brother is writing a manifesto for a game that doesn't exist yet

you'd probably have to use something like pastebin or something

[hallow hedge]

that sounds doable yeah
hope it doesn't just turn into a tldr though, and it's kinda hard to vote on individual parts like that

I'm looking at categories like "Looping" or "Upgrades" or "Terrain Manipulation" and weighing in on each of them (not specifics, just some principles or some part of the player experience I'd like to express as important)

[obsidian agate]

agreeed! we need more things to kill

[pure lake]

I wonder how traversal tools will work, or is the game going to be mostly flat like shown in the screenshots

[marsh minnow]

Its mostly mining rigs, so I'd expect it to be flat with a lot of boxy terrain

[pearl tinsel]

They said traversal tools would be picked up like other weapons. They also said it was possible that they would add the cut rope launcher

[broken flame]

I'm surprised the youtube vid isn't pinned here

[torn drum]

i would kill to play test this

i am a DRG psycho

ive also playtested stuff before, and I'm weirdly good at finding bugs lmao

wish I could do perma QA, seems like a really fantastic job

[small bough]

QA is not the fun job you think it is

Nowhere near the same as public closed alphas and betas

[rotund siren]

Dead Rock Galactic?

Deep Cells?

[rotund siren]

You have to do a lot of logging as QA. You don’t just “play the game”, you have to willingly explore every single inch of every single map and model to make sure they’re fine

And then the rest of the team evaluates what they can get away with

[lusty wraith]

tbh that sounds kinda fun

wonder how i can break this game apart yk

[rotund siren]

Now imagine having to be QA for Red Dead 2

[lusty wraith]

💀

yeah uhh

definitely not

that game is way too big

[rotund siren]

THE HORSE POOP IS MISSING TEXTURES DAMNIT!

And it’s not like you can even play through the game and THEN log it

You find anything, pause and log it on the spot

If things work correctly, you must log that, too

[torn drum]

ive done that before for some game jam games ive been asked to test

i find it fun

honestly i hope the QAs for Survive are documenting the damage counts, you could easily let a weird damage bug slip by without notice

I think I've play tested maybe 4 games?

small things but it was really fun even from that perspective

but yeah no im well aware of what QA entails, I think it sounds stellar

sucks a lot of the industry doesnt consider it a real job

or game development?

i guess?

i think QAs are easily developers in their own right

[past terrace]

Sadly, QA is often an unpaid or underpaid position

[paper schooner]

weapons are also selected by the team through what we call the negotiation screen.

The game pauses and the team has some time to decide who gets what, then they take turns making their selections. The selection order changes every time so everyone will have a chance to get first pick.

Nope we are specifically designing to avoid that mentality and to minimise competition between the players

[maiden lichen]

will rogue core have optional mythic bossfights? besides end levels?

acutal raidbosses will be a blast to fight

[paper schooner]

can you elaborate, I'm not sure I understand the question

[maiden lichen]

raidbosses

really tanky high damage, like dreadnoughts and seasonal bosses that we have in base game

[small bough]

ah very nice

[paper schooner]

yes there will definitely be dreadnought-level battles but we are still exploring what a "boss fight" means in RC

[small bough]

but am I right in believing that because of the kind of game it is. Drop in and drop out play isn't something that will work?

[azure latch]

so a hybrid of permanent allocation and round robin loot master. I can agree with that.

[quiet sage]

it's really not

it's one of the worst jobs imaginable actually

a very valuable job that is the backbone of gaming functioning as an industry

but a terrible job

no pay, no respect, and likely to be let go after one project

and of course, no benefits

[azure latch]

indeed, instead of progress or loot, you are grinding bugs

[torn drum]

im aware of it in the industry sense, but i would be interested in higher standard game context, I don't imagine the DRG QAs are treated terribly. I'd honestly be far more engaged with it for indie stuff anywho

I know Epic laid off a ton of QAs

like come on now

[azure latch]

Microsoft has also foregone a lot of QA in favor of AI (which is why home editions of Windows 10 and up are forced to update and the first to update...)

[small bough]

its not that they'e treated poorly

its also just not that fun of a job as it makes it out

wanna spend 5 hours in an empty level trying to break a mechanic and writing up a report with all known issues?

or trying to spawn as many entities as possible before it crashes and doing different variables and write that all up aswell?

[quiet sage]

testing and refinement can be a fun discipline to be sure, I appreciate the process myself

when there isn't exploitation and grift involved

[small bough]

or running into every mesh and see if anything breaks or launches you

[quiet sage]

good games are built on good testing and actually playing them

gameplay, baby

[small bough]

QA is necessary

but its far from an exciting job

it's useful and underappreciated

and likely for GSG you'll find QA is done by the developers and other staff

• their Testers

[quiet sage]

yeah true, even in a good environment, if it's a game of modern scale you are gonna be repetitively testing a lot of boring mechanics and systems
just part of the job

[small bough]

my mate use to work in QA, it's alot of writing

[quiet sage]

ideally everyone in a company plays the game at least a bit, has net positive effects on game development
but QA as a profession involves a lot of repetition and thankless work

[small bough]

and the builds you test aren't all that special

testing animations, gameplay mechanics, optimization, level design

and sometimes it'll be fun and you'll play a completed level

[dusty igloo]

Sorry to barge in, but quick lore theory for the RV Ramrod:
If you look at the Ramrod in the trailer, it looks very similar, if not exactly identical to the art listed in Update 4: where it introduced the actual space rig area. My theory is that the RV Ramrod was actually one of the original space rigs, but was retired when the main space rig was built. I feel like there would have been multiple versions of that ship with different looks that were different space rigs, and the Ramrod was one of them. Once the big Space Rig we see today was built, the Ramrod and the other original smaller rigs were retired and were actually decommissioned. All the other rigs would be destroyed, and the Ramrod would be the last one to be broken down, but with the core of Hoxxes going rogue, they needed a place to store the other unit and allow the main rig to continue as usual, and the Ramrod would be that second rig they were looking for, and hence why we see it in the trailer. It would have been recommissioned into service, geared up, and sent back out to be the main base for the dwarves reclaiming the core

[small bough]

it was decently fun when I was at University because I knew how to break Unreal Engine

and since everyone used the default Unreal template

if it breaks 1 peoples project it broke everyone elses

[old swift]

if i understand correctly, someone is chosen to pick the first weapon/upgrade on the screen, then someone else etc.?

[deep agate]

Can players swap/drop weapons later?

swap with eachother etc.

[old swift]

when i first saw the screen i thought it'd be like, everyone had to vote on what upgrade to pick for the team which sounded like a nightmare with randoms

[sleek swallow]

it wouldn't make sense when everyone is trying to make their builds

when you're all just copies of each other

[old swift]

yea

[paper schooner]

correct, the team is locked at the start of the run. member can rejoin if they crash out or something but no new members can join.

[sleek swallow]

will there be any sort of save system in case runs take really long and people may have to go or pause for a bit?

[rose meteor]

Special powder minigun

[sleek swallow]

if not, it would be nice to be able to at least pause the run somehow

[paper schooner]

Interesting theory

[paper schooner]

yes

[paper schooner]

not at the moment, but I do want to try that out

[paper schooner]

you get a screen between each stage that requires a button press to continue (like deep dives) so that is a good place to take a break. We may descided to try to add more. Not sure a bout a save...

[paper schooner]

I can see us allowing a setting where the host can pause (this would need to be communicated on the server list, so you know what you are getting into)

[sleek swallow]

it'd also be nice if that setting is on by default when hosting a friends only game since I imagine friends would be fine with it 99% of the time (if this were to be implemented)

[old swift]

or maybe something like a vote for short timeout at the resupply stations? assuming runs can go up to ~90 minutes

[paper schooner]

seems reasonable

[deep agate]

so we wont be picking up a bunch of weapons as we go, gunfire style? aw

[paper schooner]

voting is a funny thing when one of the players (the host) has ultimate control

[paper schooner]

what makes you think that?

[brave oriole]

Will RC be like DRG, Like are y'all making a true sister game to DRG with season and continuous updates or a side project that will be "finished"

[old swift]

i suppose that'd work fine as well

[deep agate]

aha, the info is pried out of him with subtly

[sleek swallow]

hm I do see a host kicking a player because they voted no against the hosts' wishes if they were to start a vote

[paper schooner]

can you elaborate?

[brave oriole]

Sure, Will RC be like DRG in scope, Like are y'all making a true sister game to DRG with seasons and continuous updates or will RC develop then be "finished"

[deep agate]

mostly because of this? If the game is stopping and having everyone negotiate over weapons every time a weapon is found it would eat into the pacing. But i guess you're implying more than one way to get weapons :V

[broken flame]

Oooo is this question time? 😮

[hollow wolf]

Yes. And that was your one question. You cannot ask another.

[broken flame]

I will break the system

[hollow wolf]

That's the spirit

[broken flame]

So when it comes to cosmetics, will that be similar to DRG? Or will how a dwarf looks be tied to what items/perks/whatever they get along the way?

[paper schooner]

Right now our focus is getting RC to Early Access. We're not thinking about seasons, etc, yet.

[paper schooner]

It does eat into the pacing and is something we a continuously trying to streamline and smooth out. It's already a lot better than it was at the start so I'm confident we'll get it to a good place.

[waxen crown]

does someone know how to get into the closed alpha for rogue core ? iam interested

[broken flame]

I hope I didn't just ask that as they left to get to work XD

[near tiger]

Cant wait to hear how the "serious" dwarfs sound

No more mushroom 😦

No more mission control 😦

[broken flame]

At least we know

We'll always rock and stone

[sick narwhal]

I think gunfire reborn did weapons well, the guns are instanced but if you find a gun you didn’t like you could press a button on it and share it with everyone

[deep agate]

and so much variety, ESPECIALLY since so many had alt-fire abilities to spice them up, different attack types or things that built into the primary attack

[celest viper]

I need 🍄

[fierce solstice]

Speaking of which i had a question regarding item drops/gathering

Whenever an item is dropped or can be collected, will there be anything to prevent ninja looting, such as giving a drop to everyone ?

I'm asking this because it was the main reason why ROR2 multiplayer with randoms was awful, and also because crab champions (which is another roguelite) had the good idea of giving a drop to everyone at the end of each "island" to make it fair, but since i don't know how it will goes here i prefer to ask

[paper schooner]

We don't know yet.

[broken flame]

Gotcha!

[paper schooner]

when the time comes we'll open up a signup thing...

[white bridge]

How do the weapons work? Like what can you bring in and modify before starting, or do you find and modify in the caves?

[paper schooner]

I do need to get to work soon though. well, this is also work, but you know what I mean....

[broken flame]

I know I know, getting too involved in reading discord msgs when you're supposed to be doing something else, I know all too well

[paper schooner]

all items / weapons are dealt out among the team in a negotiation screen. No ninjas allowed.

[fierce solstice]

negotiation ? As in discussing who will take which item ?

[paper schooner]

yes

we have a screenshot of it on the steam page (though that one is for powerups, not weapons)

[fierce solstice]

I can smell tensions rising whenever people will want the same upgrade

[paper schooner]

it works well and helps you develop an awareness of your teammates builds.

[white bridge]

I would suggest a point system, like everyone got 10 points and they can give points to an item they really want and others can outbid them, but you get 1 point back at each vote

[fierce solstice]

That's understandable, now i hope my future teammates will develop the same awareness

Won't bidding bring competition instead of coop ?

[paper schooner]

no mbidding, you just take turns

[fierce solstice]

Oh also

[paper schooner]

and the order rotates

[fierce solstice]

I assume there will be several difficulty levels ?

[white bridge]

If you bid 10 points means you only got 1 point at the next vote

[paper schooner]

yes, but if those are done as a selection (like in DRG) or just through having runs of varying difficulty across the whole spectrum is still uncertain.

[white bridge]

O so host first and then second joined then third joined

[fierce solstice]

i think a mix of both would be nice

[paper schooner]

yes, and then the next time you open a weapon cache the order will be different. so it's not that host starts every time.

[fierce solstice]

eg you start with the base difficulty you want and you can make the run easier or harder

I should make suggestions actually

[white bridge]

Will there be mutators?

[paper schooner]

yes

[white bridge]

Like a bad luck mutator that gives bad rolls

[paper schooner]

no. I thought you were refering to stuff like low gravity etc...

[white bridge]

That too

[paper schooner]

the mutators are not applying to the entire run, just to a section of it

[white bridge]

Its just with new systems new mutators that affects those systems would be nice

[fierce solstice]

Permanent mutators would be funny too

[paper schooner]

I'll definitely give it some thought 👍

OK, now I gotta run!

[fierce solstice]

I want to ball with a 6+ mutators mission

[white bridge]

By

[fierce solstice]

bye & ty for the answers

[paper schooner]

👋

[white bridge]

[oblique crow]

do we know how the closed alpha is going to work and how people can get access to it?

[white bridge]

Probably a sign up and then maybe you get an invite

[near tiger]

Can we get cosmetics in DRG as we progress/play in RC?

That would be pretty cool ngl

[oblique crow]

they might do some promotional crossover like if you have DRG rogue core you get some cosmetic in DRG and vice-versa

[near tiger]

[lime tapir]

thatd be cool

[oblique crow]

but i dont think DRG unlocks are enforced by a server

so people could just cheat them in

[lime tapir]

also will the dwarves in rc be the same as the ones in drg

[near tiger]

No theyre different

Like theyre super serious miners of the stone

Hope we do get some type of mission control person though

[oblique crow]

ya theres no classes like gunner, engi, etc its all one class called reclaimers

[lime tapir]

ye

someone different maybe

[lime tapir]

dammmmmmn

[near tiger]

Lol imagine getting a goofy mission control guy with serious miners (unlike in drg where the dwarves are goofy and mission control is trying to keep things rolling)

[lime tapir]

THAT WOULD BE SO COOL

[near tiger]

Too bad theyre keeping things serious 🗣️

[torn drum]

So this specific game is confirmed serious?

this is not /jk dwarves this is /srs

[broken flame]

It has a steam page

[deep agate]

ideallly rogue core can do what DRG didnt; customized armor by piecemeal instead of set. They could even import all of the armor from DRG 1 (slowly) so you could mix like Mk3 pieces with dark future pieces and so on.

[torn drum]

I know but I didn’t see it anywhere specify that

I figured from the visual tone tho

it’s not like core DRG is that silly anyways

[broken flame]

OHHH

Gotcha I misunderstood XD

[torn drum]

I want this game to have-

Microtransactions…

crowd gasps

[near tiger]

More DLC for drg first eth

Wth*

[broken flame]

Too much reading steam forums, but yea the devs themselves have said they're going for a more serious tone, as srs as GSG dwarves will be anyway

[torn drum]

man slam dunks his son onto concrete

[near tiger]

I need to spend money

[torn drum]

rivers run with blood

[near tiger]

Wish we could meet them as the silly dwarves

See them interact

[broken flame]

Who knows?! Season 5 is preluding RC

[torn drum]

I want the dwarves to have Back 4 Blood level dialogue where they randomly talk about trauma for no reason

[broken flame]

Back 4 blood is pretty fun

[rugged hatch]

Most important question… can we rock and stone in Rogue Core?

[wooden plume]

Apparently yes you can

What I'm wondering is if the soundtrack will be different or the same as in drg

[hollow wolf]

I asked Mike and he said they aren't sure about the soundtrack at this moment

[wooden plume]

Ok thanks for asking

[velvet marsh]

whatever they decide, I'm sure it'll be awesome. A soundtrack can be a huge part of a game's identity, certainly is so for DRG

making a soundtrack in a slightly different style could be a great way to differentiate the two games as well, if they want that

[bitter cloud]

maybe something like they did with the Horrors of Hoxxes theme in the RC trailer? It's recognizable, but it hits heavier

[hollow palm]

New sound guy, new style, new talent, new great music

Come ~June next year drg fans are eating good as hell

Rockpox quarantine be damned

Also we’re still getting the November balance+maintenance update

Hoping for overclock balance and stingtail fixes

[stray spruce]

I am excited for this

More coop is always good

Hope there are some cross unlocks between DRG and RC

[umbral dove]

My favourite genre of games and my favourite franchise in one game pog

Roguelite coop is always a blast, I'm super hyped

[gleaming slate]

is this going to be a seperate game or part of the original?

[chrome sand]

It has its own store page, so probably seperate

[gleaming slate]

oh right makes sense

[chrome sand]

you're good dw

[mint notch]

Just got through the covid pandemic and now there’s a rockpox one 😂

[chrome sand]

Its like forever pushing a boulder uphill, we keep getting pandemics 😭😭

[hollow palm]

Seperate, will come in a bundle and be discounted for drg owners

[fierce solstice]

you sure about the discount ?

[velvet marsh]

They mentioned it in the devstream, but I wouldn't take it as a guarantee, more an idea, we're far from any kind of release

[jaunty jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[median sleet]

What will the price be? Will it be cheaper if I own Deep Rock Galactic?

The price is undecided. We will likely create a bundle, so all Deep Rock Galactic owners will get a discount.

Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?

“The price of the game will be reduced while in Early Access to reflect its unfinished state. As with our previous game we intend to bring the price up once the game is Fully Released.”

[pure vessel]

Our new sounds guy doesn't make music, so we'll probably have someone else do the soundtrack 🙂

[hollow palm]

Same deal though - right?

new music guy

[pure vessel]

True. I hope we can get Sofus back on it 🙂

[velvet marsh]

Return of the legend

[white bridge]

Hope we get some drg with doom kind of music for rogue core combat music

[hollow wolf]

i hope it's still synthy. i don't think doom style music would fit

[velvet marsh]

Me neither, that being said, my take is it could retain the retro synthy sensibility but go a bit more aggressive with the combat tracks, maybe mixing it slightly with some rock or metal to give it a new twist

[hollow wolf]

very true

[velvet marsh]

Without losing the style it already had

From what I gather rogue core seems to have a bit bigger focus on combat, so having slightly more aggressive combat music could fit real well

[hollow wolf]

mick gordon + sophus + troels collab when

[velvet marsh]

me awkwardly trying to hide the DRG/DOOM crossover fan song I made last year

[hollow wolf]

you're hired

i liked that rogue core theme song you put in fan art a few days ago

[hollow bear]

Me and the boys when that new Sophus track drops
https://media.tenor.com/YkKT0_BTRtQAAAAd/drg-deep-rock-galactic.gif

[velvet marsh]

I actually finished that and sent it to ghost ship, I'd love to know what they think of it

[idle bison]

i want literally nothing to be taken from b4b cause that game is ass

[pure vessel]

If I know Mikkel as well as I think I do, it will almost 100% involve synth

[pure vessel]

We think it's all cool. Well done!

[hollow palm]

yes please

[velvet marsh]

Awesome! I wasn't sure if you guys had received it for whatever reason, but this really eases that worry

[pure vessel]

It was shared on slack a while ago 🙂

[velvet marsh]

I am happiness

[idle bison]

so dumb question but, is this game gonna have guns from the original game, or will the weapon selection be entirely independent

i already know it'll have new guns, was just curious if we'll see the oldies in there

[velvet marsh]

Oh yeah, from what I remember you can find the DRG guns in the caves

[idle bison]

epic

[velvet marsh]

I don't think you can take them back to the ramrod tho, seem to be more like upgrades

[idle bison]

finally i can use both shotguns at the same time

[frigid path]

You could say you… reclaim them

[idle bison]

i hope this game has an auto shotty

[frigid path]

I wonder if there’ll be a voiceline about Rogue vs Rouge

[supple kraken]

Rogue core?

Whats this for?

[idle bison]

new game

[velvet marsh]

"Rogue Core? Where's the Wizard Core, or the Paladin Core?"

[idle bison]

i ate them

[hidden hornet]

Knight core

[celest viper]

Core gone

[small bough]

No core

[rocky dove]

Who took it

[celest viper]

Lootbug

[hollow wolf]

the rogue

[velvet marsh]

The lootbug looted the rogue core

It is now the rogue lootbug

[celest viper]

Much better

[velvet marsh]

looks like a normal lootbug, but has an eyepatch

[celest viper]

Haz 69: pet rogue lootbug

[rocky dove]

the lootbug is rouge

[small bough]

The Final Boss of RC is the Lootbug that got away

[velvet marsh]

Beware the Roguebug

[azure latch]

Hardened Core could have been a play on the HC hype

missed opportunity

[tall plume]

Yeah no, that's not gonna be a thing.

[tame moon]

The final boss of rogue core is gonna be the rogue core

[hollow bear]

Gonna be pounce at this rate

[atomic canyon]

rouge core

[tame moon]

The real final boss were the friends we made along the way

[balmy sky]

Lootbug Queen

Taking revenge for all of the children of hers you killed

[tame moon]

(you have to kill the rest of your team in a free for all)

[velvet marsh]

I'll bet we beat the core through the power of friendship

By which I mean we befriend the core

Take it out to get some beer

[tame moon]

We're gonna find out the core didn't go rogue

[jaunty jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tame moon]

We're gonna have to find our inner strength to beat the core

[lapis spire]

Do what is this I just found out about it is it part 2 or what is this

[fresh jetty]

check pins

[lapis spire]

We’re

[sleek swallow]

-rich, but we're also reading the pinned messages to see all the available answers for questions that have been asked multiple times before

[tight tree]

OMG

[sleek swallow]

me too buddy

me too

(why are you shocked)

[lapis spire]

We’re is the pinned msg

[sleek swallow]

oh

where

you meant to ask where

[brave oriole]

Omega Matriarch Glyphid?

[sleek swallow]

I see you're on mobile so Idk exactly where

anyone who's on mobile pls inform them where pinned messages are

[brave oriole]

On mobile click on the head in the top right, then click on the pin icon

[tight tree]

kskskkssk

[soft parcel]

when is rougue core gonna be playable/early access

[sleek swallow]

read the pinned messages

[lilac hare]

i can't wait for deep rock galactic chaos wastes

[earnest oasis]

Is it known whether or not cosmetics will be in rogue core? 👀

[worldly heath]

Of course there will be I'm just hoping that we can use some drg cosmetics in the new game but I'm not sure about that

[velvet marsh]

Technically possible, highly unlikely in my mind

[teal solar]

Does the new season coming out in june mean we'll be getting random harolds for another 9 months?

[median sleet]

#drg-chat , But yeah. They might tweak it in a maintenance update

[teal solar]

harold my beloved ❤️

[velvet marsh]

I hope Harold is in rogue core

[bitter thorn]

finally looked at the steam store page..

this game looks good already

excited to see how this goes when it comes out

[velvet marsh]

I'd love to demolish him with a roguelite God build

[teal solar]

rogue harold

[bitter thorn]

since it's a roguelike,

why not a haroldlike

[teal solar]

roguepox corruptor

[velvet marsh]

That's the rockpox bugs they're haroldlike

[broken flame]

😮 Veteran?!

[deep agate]

scout is the key

rogue.......CORE

the core is deep

deepcore

DEEPCORE GK2 SCOUT

scout went rogue and we have to put him down

[sleek swallow]

(this is an amogus reference, scout is the impostor in this scenario)

[sleek swallow]

wouldn't this by extension also apply to engi? he's got the deepcore pgl

[deep agate]

and they do work together

[sleek swallow]

||(there are 2 impostors among us)||

[grizzled surge]

that really makes me wonder why it's a new game, that already happens in base game

[deep agate]

the putting down part more than the rogue part

[sleek swallow]

true

[median sleet]

Scout went rouge?? That means Engie is the key

[grizzled surge]

if engi's involved though I can certainly see the need for a new game

we'll have to wait for dev input on this one i think

[hollow bear]

Follow the red. 43%.

[full tulip]

Whats goin on here

[rocky dove]

Rouge core chat

[upbeat storm]

[deep agate]

New cult new cult new cult!

the 43%'ers

[cedar helm]

Mmmmmm

Fresh

[hollow bear]

• not a cult

[deep agate]

ofc not

spread.

[cyan valley]

Why 43%?

[deep agate]

oh blessed be thy child who seeks the knowledge !

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2605790/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Rogue_Core/ look'eth closely

Steam

Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core

DEEP ROCK GALACTIC: ROGUE CORE is a spinoff of Deep Rock Galactic with a roguelite twist. The roguelite twist means you start from basics in each mission and cooperatively build up powers and abilities for the team, sometimes leading to insanely overpowered builds and other times to spectacular flops.STORYExpenite, a new mineral of incredible va...

Release Date

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[cyan valley]

Chaos Wastes, I dunno if i'd want to compare DRG to VT2's devs and BS

[hollow bear]

I feel 43% smarter after reading that

[cyan valley]

Fatshark was quite hostile to its community for a long while, and then did a 180 and then another 180

Now we have Darktide which is ASS

[deep agate]

the last giant clss overhaul has been really positively received though

[cyan valley]

I still harbor resentment for Fatshark

[hollow wolf]

That's the classic fatshark: busted release > slowly fix game > start over in next game

[deep agate]

they went from mixed to mostly positive

im impressed

[cyan valley]

That surprises me because Darktide was shit

[hollow wolf]

they'd benefit a lot from just admitting they launch things in early access

[deep agate]

they need about 43% more content

blessed be....the fortythree

[cyan valley]

They'd benefit ALOT from not telling their community that what they overwhelmingly desire is something they have little intention of doing, and then insulting them for even suggesting that it needed improvements or changes

[deep agate]

would it be abuse if i forcefully converted people 🤔

one of us, one of us

[hollow bear]

Abuse away

[hollow wolf]

it would be a massive rule violation, yes

[deep agate]

he was basically one of us already.

[cyan valley]

I ain't into devs abusing their community, sorry not sorry most of Fatshark's history :<

DRG's devs are the complete opposite imo, they want to know what the community likes and wants

[lilac crypt]

that or they look at pickrates and make a weapon bad

[cyan valley]

And it shows cause they implement ALOT of highly requested/suggested/favored community content

I won't say they do a perfect job

Nobody does

But it's a hell of alotta step in the right direction

I've seen countless game devs just routinely ignore playerbase feedback for what they believe is better

And then their games eventually die

It's why I feel like I can believe that Roguecore will be for the best, because the track record so far has been mostly damn good

Not perfect, but pretty damn good

You can't please EVERYONE I guess is what i'm saying

[deep agate]

unless they join the 43% where being pleased is a gurantee

[rugged hatch]

GSG is so far the best dev team i have ever seen

They deserve all the praise and gold, rock and stone

[stone jacinth]

I wonder if you'll have a pickaxe in Roguecore

[rugged hatch]

I wonder if instead of pickaxe we could get A SWORD, or hear me out… a chainsaw-sword

[stone jacinth]

They want Roguecore to play differently so doing something like that would certainly make it play differently, reserving terrain destruction to items and explosives

If it goes the "become a god" roguelike route, I imagine there will be builds with absurd terrain destruction capabilities

[velvet marsh]

A copyright strike is fast approaching, covered in armor, bullets and holy texts

[rugged hatch]

heresy detected

[cyan valley]

43%!

😄

TY person!

[stone jacinth]

I also wonder, since one of the things thats evidently difficult with DRG is that adding new weapons is.. hard

Since you usually want all classes to get 1 new weapon with an unique gimmick that can have enough variety in upgrades and then overclocks

And of course frameworks

I think Roguecore will make weapons more simplistic so it's easier to just add new weapons

[hollow wolf]

they've said that the goal is weapons being easier to add since the upgrades are exterior to the weapon itself

[stone jacinth]

Oh they did say that, that makes it clear then

[hollow wolf]

i also imagine that frameworks probably won't be returning in the way we're used to

i love all the frameworks we have in drg but it is an utterly massive amount of work for the art department

[stone jacinth]

I assume we'll have plenty weapons reused but I imagine due to the simpler and more "uneven" balance, if thatys what theyre doing, I think weapons dont need same amount of frameworks anymore (If they have them at all)

I mostly just assume since they said that it's a liberty that Roguecore is not DRG, they can make those differences more fundemental. Weapons in DRG will be more personalized and intended to all be viable, while Roguecore weapons will literally and figuratively be more kitchen-sink like

So if they have an idea for a weapon, it's far less expensive to go at it and implement it, compared to DRG

[velvet marsh]

Ye, a weapon special thing might be just "it shoots fast and lights things on fire" instead of insert an entire upgrade tree and a whole bunch of drg build context

[deep agate]

guess. We're dwarves. Give me a rocket-hammer.

[lilac hare]

Yeah their CMs (or whatever they're called) are wildly ass at their job, every 2 or 3 months one of the 2 infamous CMs say the dumbest shit and get ragged on by reddit for like a couple weeks, while the other 2 actually nice CMs are there to fend off the horde, poor guys.

[deep agate]

Anyone else ready to embrace the 43%?

[rugged hatch]

noo... gimme a WARHAMMER

[deep agate]

it is a warhammer, but its rocket powered.

[median sleet]

I am 43% ready

[rugged hatch]

Would like to place 400k orders of it

he he

[deep agate]

i think 43% looks better on the start of the name and not the end

what do you think ?

[cyan valley]

Yeah it wasn't EVERYONE, that'd be just BM, but some clearly just did NOT give AF about their playerbase, their concerns, or overwhelming requests for things like critical bug fixes/balance

[deep agate]

i think this is better.

[rugged hatch]

why 43% and not... 44%?

[velvet marsh]

Ooh yes, and get this, what if we strapped a ROCKET to it?

[cyan valley]

I am ready for the 43%

[rugged hatch]

thats a... GENIOUS IDEA

[deep agate]

HERESEY! 44% is NOT the holy percentage

[hollow bear]

Either way, representation is what I went for

[rugged hatch]

Our only true emperor is either Loyd or the management mate

[deep agate]

but not too much repressentation.

[hollow bear]

(and to keep my emotes first so scam bots ignore me)

[median sleet]

I can't go a day without my name getting changed

[deep agate]

a little less than half

[rugged hatch]

we are dwarves, we mine for them

[cyan valley]

I feel like it'd be just a disrespect if we didn't see guns from DRG make an entrance to Roguecore, but at the same time i'd like to see mechanics/weaponry unique to Roguecore

[rugged hatch]

whys everyone changing to 43%??

[cyan valley]

Because 43%

[rugged hatch]

are yall downloading something? RIVALS PROGRAMS PERHAPS??

[hollow bear]

That shrimple

[rugged hatch]

Are u all nemesis in disguise??

[cyan valley]

43% there

[median sleet]

No, we're upgrading

[rugged hatch]

upgrading to what, we are already perfect

unless u are a mind flayer...

[cyan valley]

43% towards the next big thing, 43% towards updates, big ideals, new content and new game

[hollow bear]

43% rouge

[cyan valley]

43% erry'where

[rugged hatch]

ooooooh

[cyan valley]

43% is 43%!

[rugged hatch]

welp im dumb and dont see any math in there

[median sleet]

🟥

[cyan valley]

Math is for yellowbellies!

[rugged hatch]

number numbelers, dont my greatest strength

[rugged hatch]

and thats just a red square

[cyan valley]

43% sounds about right, and that's good enough for me

[median sleet]

If a mod is in on it that means it's fine to be in a ~~cult ~~ a collaboration of like minded individuals right?

[rugged hatch]

i feel like Mission Control who has to listen to dwarves pinging gold chunk

[velvet marsh]

Must I remind ye of the no cults commandment? This foolish number craze must be contained

[cyan valley]

MC definitely listens in

[pearl tinsel]

New cult

[rugged hatch]

Make us whole

[deep agate]

you can try to contain us but you'll only ever be 43% successful

[cyan valley]

They HAVE to to ensure mission QA control

[hollow bear]

not a cult a collaboration of like minded individuals

[stone jacinth]

I see no harm to put all DRG weapons into roguecore but dont bring all OC effects

And the OCs of Roguecore I assume will be more out of pocket compared to DRGs

[cyan valley]

Yeah i'm not saying they need to 100% bring EVERYTHING in, but i'm sure we'll see at least 43% of the DRG weaponry LOL

[rugged hatch]

DRG and RG could have been a reeeally good horror game too

[stone jacinth]

The answer to life is 42

%

[rugged hatch]

blasting unknown space bugs

[velvet marsh]

Why do I feel strange

[cyan valley]

But 43 is better than 42

[hollow bear]

You're 43% more rock and stone now

[cyan valley]

Because it's one digit higher

[rugged hatch]

maybe ate something strange?

[stone jacinth]

They did ask if Roguecore will be more horror themed and they seemed to go "uhh, yeah, I think so"

But I imagine that will be a it hard as you're running around as a god hooked on Expensite

Like a looped Risk of Rain 2 run

[rugged hatch]

yeah and also added "silly dwarf game" too

also dev told me

that RamRod would be visible from the space-rig and likeverse

at least thats what they are looking for

which i find reeeally look

[hollow bear]

Considering Ramrod is 43% bigger than rig 17, I believe it

[lilac hare]

am i going crazy but isn't the ramrod the old space rig, like waaay in the alpha stages of the game or whatever?

[rugged hatch]

i love this ramrod

[velvet marsh]

I'm guessing the theme and general atmosphere will be disturbing and spooky, but you'll still be running around kicking bugs and cracking jokes

[rugged hatch]

wait seriously??

[hollow bear]

Yup

[rugged hatch]

it looks like a fist to me tbh

A GIANT FIST OF KARL

TO SMACK THE ROGUE HOXXESS

[median sleet]

Rouge Core will be 43% better than DRG confirmed

[cyan valley]

If it wasn't 43% bigger i'd be concerned

[stone jacinth]

DRG was intended to be a bit spooky at first but once the dwarves started yelling "YEEEEEET" that was kind of dropped

[rugged hatch]

DRG is only game where seeing bugs is fun

[stone jacinth]

So I think for Roguecore they should try to stay true to the "collected, cool", since they have that opportunity again

[rugged hatch]

yeah i think it will be a bit more serious

[stone jacinth]

Actually that made me realise: Should Roguecores mission control be a different person

[rugged hatch]

because the theme is:

you as a reclaimer dwarf are sent deep into the core to reclaim a lost mining site

[median sleet]

they probably will have another MC

[velvet marsh]

I like that idea, it fits with the spooky theme. It'd be cool if it was a bit more serious at least at first

[rugged hatch]

dev dissapeared when i asked this question ._.

[stone jacinth]

DRG is bluecollar work: it sucks but theres fun in it
Roguecore is: Oh god I shouldnt have seen this oh god oh fuck-

I assume that question is too early to ask

[deep agate]

hey dud we ever get confirmation that we'll still have laser pointer?

[velvet marsh]

Eventually we'll start getting silly oktoberfest events and there's no running from that, but it'd be cool if it was more serious at the start

[stone jacinth]

Theres also a possibility theres no mission control at all to embrace the spooky nature, but thatd be a bit boring

[deep agate]

Because it sounded like "YOU GET A PICK, A PISTOL, AND A PHASE"

[rugged hatch]

probably, thats the best tool every created

[median sleet]

I think so

[deep agate]

so we get a pick a pistol a phase and a pointer

[velvet marsh]

I'm like 43% sure, it's a great tool for communication so I doubt they'd want to remove it

[stone jacinth]

But having a different guy being mission control would be really interesting. Maybe it could be a female character

with a beard of course

[deep agate]

Does anyone else want to join the 43% gang

youeither volunteer now or we volunteer you later.

[stone jacinth]

They could also flip it around and have that the reclaimers are broody and serious while the mission control is a scaredy goofy intern or something

Just doing his best, fumbling over comms

[median sleet]

How are we approaching the co-op gameplay in a roguelite?
We are taking on the “co-op first” mentally for Rogue Core just as we did for Deep Rock Galactic. Since the core gameplay builds on DRG it will inherently also feature all the known co-op mechanics, like traversal tools, weapon synergies and laser pointer shouts, not to forget the good old “Rock and Stone”. On top of this, we will experiment with co-op mechanics specifically focused on making a “team build” on the fly and not just 4 individual builds.

[stone jacinth]

Oh that last point is very interesting

This is my main complaint with many co-op roguelites where your builds dont really synergize at all

It's just 4 individual builds that happen to have the same objective

Risk of Rain 2 loader hogging all the items, becomes a god, commando is dead in a ditch again and Acrid is sitting on a perch slowly killing bosses with poison

i hope they pull that off, thats a good thing they're keeping in mind

[median sleet]

It'll probably be more fun for co-op considering they're building it for co-op.

While RoR2 feels like singleplayer with co-op slapped on

[stone jacinth]

Yep

[median sleet]

I like the concept of building your class

In the screenshot with upgrades showing it seems like the person who took the screenshot is going for a tank build

[stone jacinth]

With DRG theres not really enough room for support since people will be bringing whatever build to your mission

No way to know if the gunner is going singletarget or AOE

And no way if the driller will join with opposing element and ruin your day

With the roguelite formula that will happen naturally where you try to figure out a build together

[median sleet]

Can't wait to make a cryo build while someone else is making a fire build and we keep messing eachother up

[terse oyster]

don't worry driller will always bring a c4 just for you

[stone jacinth]

Theres a mod for Divinity Original Sin 2 that is very much like this, which adds a deep skill tree system and artifacts with build defining effects

And it's VERY team-build oriented, so it was always fun getting a new skillpoint and figuring out how to work it best in the team

[hollow wolf]

yes, we will. they talked about pinging points of interest still being a thing

im glad because the laser pointer is one of my fav things about the game

[white bridge]

Wait i remember the most important question, can we walk around the ramrod like the spacerig?

[rocky dove]

I expect there will be

[hollow wolf]

yes

they also talked about having an abyss bar equivalent, tho the ultimate form that will take is up in the air right now

[velvet marsh]

I bet the bartender will be called Peter

[hollow wolf]

peter griffin

[stone jacinth]

A huge part of DRG is the social experience which I definitely think they want to maintain with Roguecore, so I dont see why not

It would justify them designing a differently styled bar. Maybe it's more professional looking with drinks and whiskey over beer

[fresh canyon]

Id think it would be interesting if the dwarves were more professional. Still dwarves, but more like veterans that take the battlefield theyre in seriously

[stone jacinth]

I think thats a direction they should take

I mentioned it before but DRG started off being a bit more seriously toned, but once the dwarves started shouting memes that kind of became their thing, so I think the have the opportunity to have the tone be different, like in the beginning

I think it'd be a fun flipped dynamic if the dwarves act professional as they seem like jaded veterans, but the Reclaimers equivalent of Mission control is in turn the one that is silly

[fresh canyon]

Yeah that would be fun

[verbal tusk]

Watched the trailer for Rogue Core.

We're gonna need a bigger Doretta.

[hollow bear]

43% larger Dotty

[velvet marsh]

this chat shouldn't be called rogue core chat it should be called just rogue chat (possibly rouge chat)

change my mind

[mild oak]

rouge chat 💀

[stone sky]

genius

[torn drum]

That would be actually super big

[shut tartan]

every comment on the rogue core video:

so we know that these newer, more professional dwarves are tougher and more capable than the dwarves we've come to know and love, but do you think they could best karl?

[spice thunder]

Going to the core for the express purpose to retrieve dotty

[fresh canyon]

Karl neg diffs all 4 reclaimers at the same time

[shut tartan]

right after downing a blackout stout

[fresh canyon]

We should start powerscaling the drg characters

[ivory bloom]

so big you get fall damage trying to get off of her? lol

[elder rapids]

imma be real GSG's response to the outrage over season 5 delay in favor of delay was probably the best response i've seen ever, no corpo talk or apologies, no calling the fanbase toxic, just straight up "both love and hate come from a place of passion and we're grateful our game is able to give you those feelings" and it's like.... FUCKING FINALLY someone gets it y'know so i'm 100% giving my money to rogue core when it comes out, because you don't get devs like these anymore

i realize the devs will probably never see that or this message but still, thank y'all for being awesome

[dark radish]

Just yes

[forest rain]

That's amazing that they did that, but I got a feeling that they may have seen this too

[burnt flume]

Real, I mean I guess I might try RC when it does come out since I've taken quite an interest in rogue-like games and I've played Paladins for well over 2k+ hours (tho im not sure if Paladins is rogue-like or roguelite)

[elder rapids]

paladins is a hero shooter with moba elements pretty big difference there

a rogue-like would be something like dead cells a rogue-lite if memory serves would be something like rogue legacy

[fierce solstice]

No

dead cells is a roguelite

Though at this point pretty much anything is a roguelite

[elder rapids]

then i am wrong and also a dingus

[brave oriole]

what is the exact differences between like and lite? Ik lite has progression that's non run dependent, but does the progression have to be upgrades? or do sidegrade count? Cause if its just the vague "progression" then I can only think of like 1 actual rougelike

[fierce solstice]

Aside from rogue & maybe some forgorren stuff like nethack, everything else is a roguelite

[fierce solstice]

roguelite has progression after death, eg new updates, new chars, etc

roguelike has nothing like that

[elder rapids]

Major roguelikes are similar. They have long runs (10–100 hours). Casual players reload their saved games but serious players embrace permadeath. Roguelites have short runs (<1h) so permadeath the only reasonable way to play.

[fierce solstice]

also rogue-likes tend to be turn-based

[brave oriole]

Hardcore Minecraft is a rougelike lol

[celest viper]

Core gone core

-Good ending-

[weak fog]

Does anyone know if there will be new strains of aliens alongside glyphids and macteras in rogue core?

[past terrace]

We know approximately nothing, but if there is anything, it would be in pins

[dreamy hawk]

at best we know that it sure does exist

and it sure will come out some day

[shut tartan]

i know which day it's gonna come out on but i'm from the future

[weak fog]

Oh, you know what this game needs? Segment enemies 😎

[past terrace]

I just want actual real melee combat

[hollow wolf]

They allude to new enemies in the roadmap iirc but who knows what form that will take

[fierce solstice]

Ah yes

time to equip my fists to beat the crap out of glyphids

[celest viper]

That's what Karl did

[dreamy hawk]

didnnt karl beat 3000 detonators with his own spinal cord

[shut tartan]

the heavy:

[shut tartan]

yeah he ripped it right out and hit them with it like a whip, then put it back in when he was done

[pure vessel]

Sounds like some Baki Hanma anime shit right there

[hollow palm]

Karl would have biscuit Olivia vibes for sure

[shut tartan]

let it never be said that karl did not exude serious shonen protagonist energy

[grand acorn]

Wheb release

[hollow wolf]

roadmap in pinned messages

[near tiger]

Ok so the new dwarves are tough but are they tougher than karl tho?????

[calm yoke]

Ah.

No.

[next crater]

Joke's on you, I'm sharing this internally.

[burnt flume]

W dev

[calm yoke]

Get dunked on @elder rapids

Imma still wait for more details about the game before being excited though.

[deep agate]

i was just watching the Dwarka trailer again and the music for that was really good and it almost sounded like something outta drg

[white bridge]

Funny thing, that apology from LOTR: Golem game was made by AI.
It's like they don't care at all.

[gilded sphinx]

Do we expect them to be

[jaunty jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[gilded sphinx]

As we've seen too many companies went big and lose their hearts already

[jaunty jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[calm yoke]

Since we know zog all atm, anything is fair game at this point.

[white bridge]

i was not talking that the drg dev don't care at all, it's the golem dev that don't care at all because of the AI written apology

[jaunty jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[small bough]

Roguelite is a more watered down (and typically more friendlier) version of a Roguelike. Roguelikes are typically games that implement perma-death, randomly generated maps or locations and turn based combat.

Roguelite games are where games take some of those elements and add them ontop of something else

I would say Roguelite games are more popular. Dead Cells, Risk of Rain, Gunfire Reborn, Roboquest and Rogue Core are roguelites

so Minecraft is roguelite 😛

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I was asking for a more technical definition if there was one, since the terms are often used interchangeably.

[small bough]

Roguelikes follow a stricter formula, Roguelites are more loss

Roguelikes need to follow rules, Roguelites pick and choose

[brave oriole]

That doesn't sound like a very good definition tbh, from that definition it sounds like "likes" have to be clones of rouge lol

[small bough]

exactly that

its why most games aren't roguelikes

[brave oriole]

yeah

[small bough]

people say Dead Cells is roguelike but ehhh

some people have different definitions

but as someone who grew up in that 'era' thats the common definition

and truthfully roguelites are more fun, atleast for me

[brave oriole]

Yeah, that probably why they are used interchangeably, since there are almost no actual clones of rouge, and even the one that are dont follow it to a T

IG Noita would be a true Rougelike If I'm remembering correctly

[small bough]

typically if a game is a dungeon crawler with perma death and randomly generated levels its 'roguelike'

but you can stretch the meaning to make any game anything

I think FTL is a faithful roguelike

also a fun game

and Noita aswell

though haven't played much Noita

[brave oriole]

I've never seen Dungeon crawler specified before tbh, usually hear it as just True Permadeath & Randomized levels

[small bough]

most games typically are dungeon crawlers

stems from its roleplaying genre

[brave oriole]

Yeah but thats a separate genre. its not a requirement

[small bough]

dungeon crawlers is just another criteria

you can have dungeon crawlers that aren't roguelike/roguelites

but alot of classic roguelikes are dungeon crawlers

part of early randomly procedural generation

[brave oriole]

yeah

[small bough]

easier to generate a dungeon haha

[brave oriole]

yeah

[small bough]

and gives players an objective and explanation why random shit is in here

maybe Rogue Core will have a dungeon 🤔

underground Hoxxes dungeon

[calm yoke]

Will Rogue maps be procedural as DRG, or will they be more structured?

[hollow wolf]

On stream they said there would be the same kind of proc gen we're used to with new cave shapes. There will be some old mining structures as well as you see in the screenshots

[pure ravine]

Old mining structures?
You mean schizoid plascrete bridges, spirals and landing pads?

[median sleet]

Cheese fort

[calm yoke]

*eaten cheese fort

[median sleet]

43% eaten

[celest viper]

I hope lootbugs won't fight us back deep down there

[jolly sequoia]

wx

[sharp salmon]

;)

[old swift]

more drg tech/structures is something i've always wanted more of, but i didn't think they'd really work for drg

looting random manmade structures doesn't go with much of drg's gameplay, but fits really well with roguelike cave exploration

[jaunty jacinth]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wary tiger]

well, you do craft in drg

||you craft overclocks, beers and weapon mods||

[pure vessel]

||& friendships||

[wary tiger]

the true rocknstone is the friendships we mined along the way

[median sleet]

I realize the devs will probably never see this message but still: ||poopy ||

[sharp salmon]

bruh

[sleek swallow]

that was so thoughtful and very well spoken

[wary tiger]

hey hey hey

im the stinker here

[median sleet]

We can all be stinky

[wary tiger]

no

only me

now

back to core being rogue

[median sleet]

I wonder if there will be maggots in the core

[pure vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/delete-this-gif-21791540

[tall plume]

you can also poop them back Anders

abuse your mod power

[near tiger]

He shall do no such thing my fine sir

[deft heath]

hows rug corn doing

[hollow wolf]

Cancelled

[deft heath]

i really wanted to eat some canned rug corn

[calm yoke]

MOD ABUSE! MOD ABUUUUSE!!!

[median sleet]

You get used to it

[tall plume]

what do you mean, rondle ?

[median sleet]

I went from rouger567 to this over the past 2 days. I didn't change it a single time

[median bear]

Update from the dev stream right now: there should be a rogue core blog post tomorrow, with some concept art and stuff

They're talking mostly about giving the Reclaimers a distinct visual identity, so we might get a first look at the dwarves/dwarfettes

[fringe maple]

neat

[tall plume]

Ramrod apparently means baguette in Hindi.
Dwarves are secretly french, confirmed.

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hellmo-french-baguette-chaos-gif-24577820

[lilac crypt]

i love the part of rogue core where the french rode in on a baguette and starting throwing bread at the glyphids, prompting said bugs to exclaim “i hate the french!”

[median bear]

replace the pickaxes with just a baguette

[celest viper]

Lootbugs will fight back this time

Prepare baguette

[deft heath]

Mission Control, the dwarves have quit, what will we do?
Theres nothing we can do

[hollow lance]

What is this game how is it different from DRG ?

[tall plume]

pinned messages

[pearl tinsel]

I'm hoping we get unique dwarves with their own personalities

[tall plume]

given what we know, that's even more unlikely to happen than in DRG

[pearl tinsel]

I hope so

[tall plume]

unlikely*

typo

[pearl tinsel]

I want something more like vermintide or wwz or l4d

Bruh what

Idk, I think having all four of the same guy would be kinda boring, would seem weird to lean harder in the other direction when that's like the one complaint people have had with DRG's characters

[wicked snow]

I feel like they will all be the same, considering it has that roguelike aspect to it

And I dont mind that actually

[tall plume]

It's just my assumption, considering there's no class system and it's likely we'll have lot of ways to customize but I can't say for certain.

but we don't really know for sure yet

[fringe maple]

i mean you do get a lot of customization with the phase suit/active abilities they said theyd have

[median sleet]

You don't need classes to give them a unique personality

[pearl tinsel]

That's not the same as characters

[fringe maple]

yeah

[gilded sphinx]

Best suggestion

Lootbugs with eyepatch

[fringe maple]

though i imagine they still might do some things with changing the voice pitch like they do in drg so you can tell your teammates apart

[pearl tinsel]

I was kinda annoyed they said not to count on them adding female dwarves

Is it so hard to hire 1 extra voice actor for lines? Especially with a new game

[gilded sphinx]

.... elaborate

...hmmm

Idk

It's def an interesting premise

[lusty ice]

Just thinking about it, maybe we will have character specific things like in DRG and about being a rougelike for now I can only think about enter the gungeon like gameplay, with every character has some specific items on start.

[pearl tinsel]

Like they're doing a fresh start, it would be the best time to add stuff like that that is now really difficult to do with drg itself

[gilded sphinx]

I just.... don't mind the gang of hardened dwarves being just stinky men

I don't really care about gender

Grumpy short people, I like

[lusty ice]

Build your own weapon things maybe?

[gilded sphinx]

Def want more customisation

[tall plume]

the new game is still built upon DRG's engine and core feature, so it's still asking them to have a VA come to register over 3500 voicelines, pitch them around as needed and creates the body structures as well as animation and cosmetics in double.

And then having to explain to people why they can't port it into DRG (again).

[gilded sphinx]

But that should already be part of it

[lusty ice]

Imagine a grenade launcher with a drum ring attached to it

[gilded sphinx]

Cuz like, I don't think they can make a rougelite drg without shaking up guns in the run itself

Or at least have some idea of that in consideration

An extended system of pre run weapon customisations should be good too

Either way I'm looking forward to it

[lusty ice]

Item-weapon or weapon-weapon or item-item synergy if customization is not happening

[jaunty jacinth]

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[pearl tinsel]

It's not all the same lines though, there would be a lot that aren't returning from drg proper, like mission related, class related, etc.
I don't think they've said if cosmetics will be ported over, but regardless now would still be a better time than any to actually put that work in

[jaunty jacinth]

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[gilded sphinx]

Weapon-weapon is a hard case to even imagine for me

[tall plume]

I agree but it's still a ton of work, as much as doing it with DRG. It's not a game sprouted from the ground up so it doesn't help in that sense

[gilded sphinx]

But items items and item weapons are in my mind, kinda defaulted

[pearl tinsel]

It's much closer to the ground up than DRG is.

[lusty ice]

I had the idea of weapon-weapon synergies by having the guns that synergize and can combine with each other while remaining in their respective slot and in the name or description of the weapon could have some indications that they can combine with these other weapons, and jus tsimply a button click and the weapons are getting combined with an animation of sorts, just like in the 2016 Doom weapon mod swap system exept here is simply two or more guns are assembled into on temporarily. Can swap between weapons that are not in synergy and the assembled weapon can be used just like a regular one, only downside that is occupying more weapon slots.

[pearl tinsel]

How would that even work

How do you combine a pistol and an assault rifle lmao

[fringe maple]

duct tape

[lusty ice]

That is the thing I have writed. Just some combinations, that is written on description or labeled with something. Like having a normal assault rifle and a plasma thrower with transferred plasma effects maybe

[lusty ice]

or collecting some sort of a modification kit

Just imagine more tiers of kits, from crude duct tape to more rarer modification kits

(the second could combine weapon effects, not just taping them together)

[fringe maple]

we'd have to see what weapons they already have

[pearl tinsel]

I don't think they would do weapon combinations

That would be a technical nightmare

[tall plume]

btw, we do have #rogue-core-suggestions

[fresh jetty]

reading through this I just saw "DRG 2 - Responce: they aren't even done the first one yet" lol

(I know that's probably an old response, just thought it was funny)

[austere slate]

rogue core

[jaunty jacinth]

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[fresh jetty]

I mean...

[grand acorn]

Responce

[tall plume]

?

[fresh jetty]

I think this person is mocking my spelling mistake

[white bridge]

One of those yo'ure people

[fresh jetty]

verry tru. cna't beleive somone wuold atc lik tis

[wanton kraken]

when the core is rogue

[stiff kestrel]

This isnt drg 2 its drg 3

[white bridge]

Or is it drg prolog

[fresh jetty]

considering season 5 will be setup for rogue core, it's not a prologue

unless the devs go from having almost no lore to having extremely complicated mind-bending time travel lore

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-cells-unlock-your-brain-gif-14425366

S5 leaks

[gilded sphinx]

Didn't someone said s5 is somewhat of a prologue to RC

[fresh jetty]

@devs make complicated time travel lore plz

[tall plume]

Best idea, that can never go wrong, right ?

oh wait

[fresh jetty]

yes, literally me a few minutes ago (also the devs)

[gilded sphinx]

[median sleet]

Marvel moment

[jaunty jacinth]

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[fresh jetty]

perfect

the accidentally go too far and become karl

but then they don't actually die, they get pulled into an alternate future where the robots won and now there are cyber glyphids

but in this timeline the robots also invented time travel and are going back to stop drg from existing and that's why the core went dark because the core contains the secrets of time travel so now you have to go back in time again to stop the robots

but it's too late and now there are cyber bugs AND dwarves and you have to kill the cybertronic version of yourself, but that creates a time paradox, awakening an ancient species of aliens dormant in hoxxes that invented time travel millions of years ago and sealed themselves away to prevent paradoxes, and they only awaken to stop a disruption to the time space continuum

[fringe maple]

i think they said it would be a prologue? might be wrong

[fresh jetty]

season 5 is a prologue, rogue core isn't

that's what I meant with that message

[fringe maple]

ah ok

[fresh jetty]

anyways long story short you need to travel back millions of years to prevent time travel from being invented by the ancient aliens so that this whole mess never happens

[torn drum]

Guys I went into cryo sleep and set my machine for 2 years, was Rogue Core good?

[tall plume]

it's time to stop

[fresh jetty]

I'm good, got it out of my system

[frigid path]

5D chess but it’s the DRG boardgame

[median sleet]

When are they adding timetravel to the board game?

[fresh jetty]

GSG hire me as a writer I'm sure the fans will love that and not be confused at all whatsoever

[median sleet]

Why did you get a 43% but mine got removed

[rocky dove]

Deep Rock Galactic with Multiverse Timetravel

[tall plume]

Sorry, can't compete with Robert

[frigid path]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rocky dove]

Okay Mr. Rondle Mcdondle Galactic

[median sleet]

I am 43% of the way to insanity

[tall plume]

not anymore

[jaunty jacinth]

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[fresh jetty]

Insanity privileges revoked

[tall plume]

neither is Regi too

[jaunty jacinth]

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[median sleet]

Noooo

I am sorry Regi

[fresh jetty]

This is the true power of the CC role.

I say inane nonsense and people pay more attention because my name is a special colour

[median sleet]

Go in #drg-chat and say they need to buff neurotoxic payload

[tall plume]

Banned for stirring up trouble

[median sleet]

I am 43% sure it'll be fine

[tall plume]

[frigid path]

It’s alright, didn’t expect it to stay long anyway

[tawny karma]

don’t worry, i said it for you :)

[sullen junco]

so rogue core is like deep rock 2 ?

[hollow bear]

Deep rock 43%

[jaunty jacinth]

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[tall plume]

check the pinned messages

[marsh minnow]

I was thinking about rogue core all wrong lol

I thought mining sites were simple, small buildings or some bigger complexes

But in DRG, the entire BIOMES are said to be mining sites

I am really not smart

[pearl tinsel]

We see actual dwarven structures in rogue core screenshots though

[sullen junco]

I see thanks

[elder rapids]

i'm hoping rogue core lets us have a handheld m2 browning styled gun.

[pearl tinsel]

More weird guns would be nice

Lack of having to design whole mod trees and OC's hopefully means we get a lot of just fun and different weapons to use

[elder rapids]

yeah admittedly driller's arsenal is pretty weird but since the reclaimers are supposed to be essentially your spec ops which you put into the most dangerous missions possible means they more than likely get the cool shit management doesn't want the miners to break

[elder rapids]

wellll, from the store page it was kinda implied upgrades would also be a thing between missions so....

[pearl tinsel]

Iirc that's for starting kit

So you might get like a couple phase suit upgrades and a starting gun of your choice or something

But no mod trees for guns, devs have said that

[elder rapids]

oh that sounds awesome, yeah the mod trees seem to be the biggest limiting factor for DRG (well that and skins)

[pearl tinsel]

There's already some crazy guns in drg itself already anyways. Unless we get an actual BFG, lok, shard diffractor, and gunner weapons are already up there in terms of raw power

[elder rapids]

iirc from the store page phase suits are customizable and instead of different classes you get different suits

[pearl tinsel]

Right

[elder rapids]

yeah but all things considered gunner's arsenal is pretty standard for a heavy weapons guy

you got your missile launcher your autocannon (which is not actually an autocannon....?) and the minigun

[pearl tinsel]

They also said movement tools will be something you find, so there's more potential for new utility items to be added

[elder rapids]

with a revolver a burst fire pistol and a gauss pistol

[elder rapids]

YEEEE

[pearl tinsel]

I even asked them about whether ye olde ladder launcher will be added, they said possibly

[elder rapids]

it definitely feels like they're exerting their creative muscles with rogue core that they can no longer really do with DRG

[elder rapids]

ladder launcher?

[pearl tinsel]

There's an unused rope gun in the files which is based on the ladder launcher thing from project dwarka, DRG's predecessor

Would basically work like the zipline but vertical

[elder rapids]

that just sounds cool

i also kinda hope we can get mechs in rogue core tho that's highly unlikely

[pearl tinsel]

I want more shotguns

[elder rapids]

ehhhh

seen one shotgun you've really seen them all use-wise

[pearl tinsel]

Hell no

There's a boomstick, and a shitty mag shotty

There's no pump shotty or true full auto

Hell, a gunner primary style one would be even more awesome

[elder rapids]

or an automatic grenade launcher like the MK19

[pearl tinsel]

True

There's a sticky grenade launcher that was originally for the cut demolitionist class, wonder if that will be added

[elder rapids]

i wonder if gun unlocks will be a thing because with rogue lites you usually permanently unlock weapons and stuff the further you go on that you can then choose to get for a cost before each run

also i kinda want a handheld railgun in rogue core. no not the coilgun pistol but an actual railgun if you wanna know the difference you'll get some high quality gun autism

[pearl tinsel]

Would be a fun scout primary tbh

[elder rapids]

i mean if you wanna give scout a gunner sized primary ye

[pearl tinsel]

Depends what it would look like

Something like the gauss rifle from fallout would be very scout-esque, but the thingy from doom 2016 would be very gunner-esque

[elder rapids]

gauss and railgun are verrry different

[pearl tinsel]

Are they? You charge up a tiny piece of metal with electromagnets to make it go very very fast

[elder rapids]

basically a railgun is a piece of artillery that you fire a projectile through to then speed up a ton, upside is it's extremely powerful downside is the energy is so great that it actively disintegrates the barrel everytime it's fired

[cyan valley]

Gauss, Rail and Coilgun are alot different mechanically

[elder rapids]

a gauss rifle is just magnets speeding up the projectile

[cyan valley]

They accomplish the same goal of firing a material super fast, but do so differently

[elder rapids]

hence why they are called different things

[elder rapids]

when i said railgun i don't mean the shit from fallout 4 i mean the shit that took out devastator in revenge of the fallen

[cyan valley]

Funny enough, I learned the differences between these from videogames LOL, the more you know! 🌈 ⭐

[elder rapids]

same here

[cyan valley]

And people say games don't teach ya' anything, FOOLS!

[elder rapids]

games are the start of many a gun nuts' obsession

[pearl tinsel]

You wanna know how they speed up the projectile?

Electromagnets

[cyan valley]

For real, you learn ALOT about engineering, science, etc from games

[pearl tinsel]

They're all the same thing

[elder rapids]

no they are not

[cyan valley]

And then you research those very things online and get the accurate info (cause games aren't always accurate with their science/maths)

It spurs interest in science and tech

[elder rapids]

indeed

also idk what sorta copium chipper there is huffing

[pearl tinsel]

Saying no does not make you correct lol

It's all electromagnets

[cyan valley]

Yeah but not yeah

[elder rapids]

@pearl tinsel i don't need to say anymore because you are correct only in the magnet part the difference is how they operate

[cyan valley]

It's like saying 'all alcohol is the same'

[elder rapids]

all videogames are the same

they're just code

[pearl tinsel]

As far as videogame railguns/coilguns/whatever go, it's all the same thing

[elder rapids]

nah nah don't move the goalpost now

[cyan valley]

There are various alcohols that are straight up hazardous, some that are denatured, etc

[pearl tinsel]

Charge up weapon fires super powered round that pierces shit

[cyan valley]

You're going for the ideation of the weapon, but not the actual engineering/mechanics of the weapon

[pearl tinsel]

You're literally the one that went "umm ackshually" in the first place

[elder rapids]

you asked!

[pearl tinsel]

Like we're literally talking about fucking videogames here bro

I didn't ask

[elder rapids]

you went "are they"

[cyan valley]

Which isn't really a BAD thing in gaming, but making your in-game stuff scientifically accurate is a big boon

[pearl tinsel]

After you tried correcting me

[elder rapids]

yes i did correct you because there IS a difference, chill out dude.

[pearl tinsel]

They're all fundamentally the same archetype in videogames. The initial convo was about that until you butted in

[elder rapids]

.....i didn't even butt in? we were talking long before that

[pearl tinsel]

Wait you're the same dude

Whatever

Still cringe

[elder rapids]

homie's just mad because he got something wrong

[elder rapids]

and also firing a railgun would be super cool

just the bang followed by the round going into an enemy at mach fuck

[cyan valley]

It WOULD be

I would LOVE to be the guy that pushes the button for a thing like that

[elder rapids]

yeahhh and if it's handle just 👌

i say enemy because i don't know what lies further in hoxxes

[cyan valley]

omg that would be SO satisfying to experience

POW

[elder rapids]

with the sound of the rails charging a bit before firing off the round

[cyan valley]

YES