rogue-core-chat

[elder rapids]

most of the dead space's weapons ARE repurposed mining tools,

[tall plume]

yeah, seriously

It's kind of an experimental weapon though IIRC

[chilly berry]

they probably use whatever sense alerts all the bugs to whatever activities the dwarves are up to. sound, vibrations in the stone, eyes

[elder rapids]

and engie just actively fucks with it

[civic hemlock]

It could've been but with the number of jank fixes engi has made to it he clearly sees it as a weapon

[wet drift]

the best kind of weapon

[elder rapids]

ok the EPC has to be a mining tool tho

[wet drift]

the mf tries to break it as an inspect animation 😭

[wispy remnant]

Because all of the weapons you use through Dead Space games were all mainly used as mining tools

[wet drift]

i think it has an experimental ability to mine

[chilly berry]

If they can give this feel to teh game, I'm for it.

[elder rapids]

well mostly in 1, 2 and 3 had weapons clearly meant for military use

[wet drift]

the mining is a side effect of the thin containment field

[wispy remnant]

We dont talk about the third game lol

[elder rapids]

no we talk exclusively about it

.....

[wispy remnant]

okay then lol

[elder rapids]

:l

[wet drift]

sorry thats my bad

[elder rapids]

feel like i just got flashbanged by words

[chilly berry]

you should get revenge for that

perhaps in the form of some kind of ignitable salamander

[wet drift]

tfw you stop all conversation

[oak obsidian]

it be like that sometimes

[ruby knot]

That’s me when I enter a conversation

[tall plume]

hi Nick

[ruby knot]

Hello there Mr Doot

[tall plume]

General Nickobi !

hyped up for Rogue Core ?

[ruby knot]

Oh yeah. Looks super interesting

Fully destructible terrain rougelike is going to be interesting

[hollow wolf]

very excited that it's gonna be co-op focused

[tall plume]

same

[wet drift]

Personally im really happy they are sticking with a similar artstyle to drg because the game has this hard to describe feel with the visuals

When you enter a cave with particularly cool gen its always a really stand out moment, and i also think the games atmosphere lends a lot to that as well

[tall plume]

Art Direction > Graphical fidelity and technical feat

[civic hemlock]

Survivor's "realism" feels a bit offputting but I like it tbh

[wet drift]

you dont notice it when you and other bearded men are running around searching for shiny stuff on the walls but this game has amazing atmoshpere

[civic hemlock]

Feels like I'm playing with action figures here

[wet drift]

and it can be quite scary when alone at times

[tall plume]

If you play in smaller teams with people who don't mind taking the time and goofing around, you can have the time to relax and enjoy the atmosphere

[stone plover]

action Roguelike?

[wet drift]

im looking forward to see what they're gonna do with the horror elements of hoxxes

[wet drift]

i mostly play pubs (my friends tried the game once and they were just messin around it was more just background noise at that point)

ive convinced one to try it again tho so that may change

[civic hemlock]

Pubs love goofing off

[tall plume]

depends on the pub games

[wet drift]

some do true

[tall plume]

I mostly goof around with friends

[wet drift]

but lots of them are just ppl looking to complete assignments asap

but back to the art direction

im looking at some of the screenshots we have and wow

there is some cool ass stuff here

im looking forward to exploring more abandoned mining stations and the like

we dont get to see much of the companies settlements and installations arouynd hoxxes aside form the space rig

[tall plume]

yeah and it's just alpha stuff

[wet drift]

frankly i know many ppl are upset about waiting more for the next season and stuff

but im looking forward to this

[tall plume]

Many people I think, which is legitimate

[wet drift]

i think getting a break from developing just drg could help give the devs time to come back to drg and really get creative with the content going forward

[civic hemlock]

Well when you have a polished game as your foundation that ain't surprising

[tall plume]

I think it will just renew their excitement for DRG stuff and bloom more ideas in the future

in the end, it will result in fruitful things for DRG, not just Rogue Core.

[wet drift]

100% cant blame ppl for getting tired of rockpox but i'm still enjoying rockpox and making builds to capitalize off the unique challenge of rockpox

[civic hemlock]

Ye how I see it is that content might come slowly but the content will be better

[tall plume]

same

[wet drift]

just got plasma bursters the other day and was like

wait this would be excellent at hitting those hard to hit blisters

[civic hemlock]

Have you heard about the LOK 1?

Funniest shit I've seen, turns anything with an angled weakpoint onto a joke

[wet drift]

ive found that the lok is a bit finnicky to move the angle to hit most weakpoints

against pox goo bombers its an excellent tool tho

[tall plume]

bullet hell is pretty good rockpox, funnily enough

[wet drift]

i just dont like bullet hell to much

tbh

not my thing

minigun in general just not my kinda gun

i prefer the other 2 gunner primaries

it helps that the first OC i got for coil gun was hellfire so i just run that on like everything

i love hellfire

im lloking forward to the new weapons theyll have

if there arent going to have a mod system like drg that mean that making new weapons may be less of an undertaking

[brisk jewel]

i love the rocket launcher because of its inspect animation

[wet drift]

SAME

[brisk jewel]

the sounds that accompany it to be specific

[wet drift]

vrrmmmmm woooosh boooom

[tall plume]

eh, that's fair, to each his own

[civic hemlock]

I hope that Rogue Core will have a mod kit or something similar

So maybe modded upgrades and weapons can be a thing

[wet drift]

maybe weapons specific upgrades for your starter weapon?

[lost sun]

Hopefully the same mod api

I love the visual and sound changes in current drg

[pure sphinx]

just went through the steam page for rogue core and it looks fun, i love roguelites :)

[wet drift]

im fairly sure its on the same engine so i believe mods will be plausible

[lost sun]

Also hope mod creators will port their stuff over if so

[lost sun]

Nice

[keen sky]

Same

[wet drift]

reminds me i needed to toss it on my wishlist

[inner dirge]

You know what'd be cool

[keen sky]

I never thought about it, but DRG as a roguelite would work really well in my opinion

[inner dirge]

If RC and DRG had like

[wet drift]

along with silksong

[inner dirge]

"linked" events

Like if there's an end to an event resulting in an explosion on Hoxxes or smth

You could see it from the space rig

[lost sun]

I hope there’s cross compatibility if they’re making us buy a whole new game

[wet drift]

thatd be interesting

[inner dirge]

And the RV space ship thing

[wet drift]

cross compatibility?

speaking of cross stuff

i wonder if they could make the game use all the same stuff across all platforms so i could play with my xbox buddies through steam

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[wet drift]

cross play is one of the few things i dislike about drg

[tall plume]

unlikely

[wet drift]

but if we talking like earn things in drg through rogue core

i feel thats a bad idea

even if its jsut cosmetics like

[keen sky]

I'm not familiar with how crossplay actually works, why cant steam and xboxs players not play together?

[wet drift]

the cosmetics are a part of this games progression

[wet drift]

im not completely sure myself but

[tall plume]

#drg-chat message

basically

[lilac crypt]

getting playstation to allow crossplay is incredibly difficult i’ve heard

[wet drift]

ah ok

[tall plume]

that's because Sony is being annoying with everything.

[wet drift]

so this is why the PS3 has no games

[tall plume]

They want absolute control over their own part and will share as little as possible of this control.

[lilac crypt]

i was told it’s that they think it would reduce their sales

which is obviously stupid

[tall plume]

Probably

[wet drift]

they are holding onto their consoles superiority over microsofts at all cost

[tall plume]

But it's their decision regardless and all we can do is leave with it.

[wet drift]

yeah corporations suck whats new

[keen sky]

it is what it is

[wooden seal]

games gona be amazing

[eager moss]

So since it says the core has gone rogue does that mean the core itself is causing things like a giant ommoran heartstone or like more metaphorically speaking and the terrain and creatures are worse there

Or quite possibly both?

[deft heath]

im sorry but why does this chat exist
we have 1) no footage of the game 2) a trailer 3) some screenshots

[magic hemlock]

By sounds of it. Hoxxes itself might be hostile that deep

All the mineheads going dark at the same time and a new mineral ...

Maybe the error cubes shall be elaborated on

[deft heath]

rogue core is a salvage mission
just one that took longer than it should be

[solid hatch]

with better equipment too

[buoyant hemlock]

Maybe we find Karl

[solid hatch]

imagine

[rigid remnant]

a deep dive salvage mission

[solid hatch]

where we don't come back

[deft heath]

escort the drilldozer to the rogue core, then extract the heartstone

[solid hatch]

i guess the big ship thingy is meant to stay on the planet with us

[deft heath]

what if the lost dwarves have gone insane and started worshipping the bugs

[solid hatch]

that would be bruh

[rigid remnant]

it'd be lame

[solid hatch]

yea

[rigid remnant]

dwarves are stronger then bugs

now what would be cool.....

[civic hemlock]

You guys don't like Mind Control plots?

[rigid remnant]

is if a bigger bug came about

[rigid remnant]

not on dwarves

[deft heath]

what if bugs from the board game are found in the rogue core

[rigid remnant]

my biggest hope is that they reveal what a fully grown dreadnaught is like in rogue core

[civic hemlock]

What if weapons from survivor make it to Rogue Core

[rigid remnant]

it'd be cool to see the shieldbasher bug from the board game

[hollow bear]

Rammer would be a cool addition

[deft heath]

or one of them started having hallucinations of Karl talking to them, and giving commandments

[tall plume]

disagree

[solid hatch]

the game seems very similar to classic drg in gameplay tho

[hollow bear]

Yeah well ya motha

[solid hatch]

hope the stacking item 's gonna add to it

[tall plume]

We already have the Q'ronar that does the same thing and rammer would look weird, remember that old video

[fierce solstice]

Where the fuck did you get gameplay ?

[solid hatch]

description

[fierce solstice]

Description alone tells you how close it is to DRG ?

[hollow bear]

They can leave the shell back out of Rogue core, no one likes them anyway

[solid hatch]

well yeah

[civic hemlock]

What does the rammer do?

[solid hatch]

1-4 coop fps pve

[rigid remnant]

ram

[hollow bear]

It rams

[tall plume]

push people

[solid hatch]

as close as that

[civic hemlock]

Also what board game exclusive mobs are there?

[tall plume]

Shellback better

[civic hemlock]

Are there other ones?

[tall plume]

i want to keep the lobster !

[hollow bear]

We can keep the younglings

[deft heath]

"our express ride to hell!"
-clueless dwarves heading to the core

[fierce solstice]

Which includes :

• horror games
• action games
• roguelites
• RPGs
• hack'n'slash

and probably more

[rigid remnant]

I really hope they take a darker tone to rogue core

[tall plume]

I would ditch the younglings instead

[deft heath]

i hope they keep some of the silly atmosphere

[solid hatch]

itis a roguelite

[fierce solstice]

I know it is a roguelite

[rigid remnant]

that's a given, otherwise it wouldn't be very drg

[solid hatch]

tehen?

[fierce solstice]

what i mean is aside from it being FPS, we have literally no idea on how similar it is to DRG gameplay

[deft heath]

and aside of it being co op

[civic hemlock]

Do you think there might be a pickaxe DRG build?

[fierce solstice]

we don't even know if mission control will be there

Lemme check my crystal ball real quick

[civic hemlock]

Probably a new one

[deft heath]

its good if he wont

[deft heath]

a dwarf one

[remote thistle]

risk of rock !!!!

[fierce solstice]

pounce

post the risk of sus gif

[remote thistle]

the what

[deft heath]

pounce is in the rogue core

he cant

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[remote thistle]

mod abuse

can we stage a coup and execute these belligerents

[deft heath]

no

[tall plume]

I'm french, I can out-riot you.

[hollow bear]

We can argue, if you're in that kind of mood today

[deft heath]

pounce, why are you doot?

[remote thistle]

guns

[tall plume]

Shellback is a cool designed enemy and has funny ragdolls and voicelines.

[remote thistle]

if you really think about it scout and loader are the same exact person

[deft heath]

screaming
funny

[hollow bear]

And the Rammer can do 90mph on the interstate with utter disregard for every other driver around

[tacit bloom]

is rogue core gonna be fps survivor or whats going on?

[hollow bear]

Fps rogue lite

[deft heath]

fps rougelite

[tall plume]

but so can the shellbacks without being a budget oppressor

[deft heath]

we need a megabulk in rc

[tacit bloom]

i meant is it fps version of the drg survivor game coming out?

[remote thistle]

nah, we need a rockpox bulkie

[hollow bear]

No, entirely separate game

[deft heath]

no, survivor is developed by another company

[tacit bloom]

ah cool

[hollow bear]

More akin to Gunfire Reborn than Vampire Survivors

[idle bison]

they're a similar genre, but the main difference is that survivor is built around you never being able to completely kill every enemy. we can assume rogue core will be more objective-based rather than just, well, surviving

i think it'd be a more fair comparison if you actually had to aim in DRG:S

[deft heath]

what do you think expenite is used for?

[idle bison]

tastes rly good

[hollow bear]

Reminds me of expensive, so probably corporate greed

[deft heath]

it reminds me of experience, so i think its for xp

[hollow bear]

Pants mineral 2

[hollow wolf]

it's expensive. they just sell it

[tall plume]

MONEEEEEEEEEEY

[deft heath]

they already have like 30 million trillion kajillion bazilion megatons of gold

[tall plume]

they always need more

[idle bison]

which means that it's no longer valuable lol

[timber berry]

At least 3 golds

[idle bison]

the more you have of something, the less valuable it is

[timber berry]

Gold is a special case

[deft heath]

not to other people

[timber berry]

It’s incredibly useful

And pretty

Everybody wants it

[sick jetty]

Expenite sounds like expedite so I feel like it's used to accelerate manufacturing of something

[brisk jewel]

maybe it's some sort of energy source

[slow loom]

Extraordinary Expensive expenite exbedition

[hidden hornet]

I wonder if deep rock will finally invest in some better m.u.l.e equipment here

[sick jetty]

We've already got a larger mule on the rig so I hope so

[magic hemlock]

Expedite the upgrades for a rogue like perhaps

[sick jetty]

Hmmm

Who knows

Anyway, I hope we get new tools as well as weapons

Lol imagine an rc drilldozer

[hidden hornet]

does it come in black?

[strange spade]

And it will be called dorito

[sick jetty]

Love it but I think dory would fit better

[crisp ferry]

before i submit this suggestion - does "more gestures like the salute we have in DRG that you can do with your co-op partner" sound at all interesting?

[coral badger]

name it Gilgamesh, Consumer of Terrain

[crisp ferry]

i was thinking of the emotes that you'd get in portal 2 co-op mode, but

im having trouble wording it 😵‍💫

[sick jetty]

1 put it in #rogue-core-suggestions
2 I like the idea of holding v for an emote wheel

[crisp ferry]

yeah, i know

[sick jetty]

Ok

[crisp ferry]

thats why i said before i submit this suggestion

but! ty for the feedback

[dry nova]

oh snap

[latent raptor]

@brittle crag Love the idea of proxy chat a lot ngl

[dry nova]

yes i thought that was a good idea every since i started the game

if i can find a mod for it ill get it

[rocky dove]

I think proxy chat falls off with text chat

[dry nova]

proximity chat is such a good feature for every game

[dry nova]

make text chat blur out with distance

[fickle iris]

no

[latent raptor]

it becomes static

[rocky dove]

Barotrauma does something that replaces characters with #'s the further someone is away

[dry nova]

thats what i was thinking tbh

[rocky dove]

I wish TTT proxy chat did this too

[deft heath]

the most important question is
is the core edible?

[vagrant current]

the text gets smaller the farther away you are

[wraith folio]

Wow the reddit has become a cess-pool

Looks awesome. I always love a challenge 😉

[vagrant current]

ʰᵉˡᵖ ᵗʰᵉ ᵈʳᵉᵃᵈ ᶦˢ ᵗᵉᵃʳᶦⁿᵍ ᵒᶠᶠ ᵐʸ ˡᵉᵍˢ

[coarse basalt]

Yo new chat dropped

[deft heath]

it dropped on october fifth

[coarse basalt]

Always has been

[rocky dove]

Give it a taste of its own medicine, see how it likes it

[deft heath]

redditors should be locked up somewhere

[coarse basalt]

I don't always look in here okay

[deft heath]

okay, nice

[deft heath]

note: by redditors i mean those who are terminally online, neckbeard basement dwellers

[wraith folio]

I strongly think reddit has some corrupting influence on its users

[coarse basalt]

Kinda wild core got a main chat before survivors though. Considering it has a demo out

[wraith folio]

I browse, but I doubt I am immune and should really consider going cold turkey

[deft heath]

survivors has its own discord server

[coarse basalt]

Yeah that's odd to me but whatever

[inland palm]

it’s not developed by gsg

why wud it be here

[coarse basalt]

Ah that makes more sense. Thanks. I haven't followed it further than knowing it exists.

[inland palm]

ye it has a discord server run by its own devs. Gsg is only publishing it. RC has a main chat cus this is gsgs 2nd official game

[frail fable]

Does that mean gsg have 3rd furry game because #non-drg-chat exists?

[forest rain]

Do we know if this will be releasing on PS4

[pearl tinsel]

Probably not till 2025 or later. It's only releasing to early access on pc in 2024

[simple cloak]

ye still too early

[forest rain]

Tbh as long as PS4 gets it at some point I'll be happy. I'm too broke to afford a PC or PS5

[pearl tinsel]

Questionable if ps4 would get a port at that point, it would be a 10 year old console by then

Actually 11 years, ps4 turns 10 in november

[forest rain]

😭😭😭 guess I need to start saving

[pearl tinsel]

Ps5 shouldn't be as hard to get by then

[forest rain]

Hopefully they have the next version of it out by then too

[wraith epoch]

lets go lads

[velvet marsh]

We will, we'll go

[forest rain]

Elite dwarf rogue-lite sound fun to me so i wishlisted it, can't wait to see how it will set up (also more LORE)

[fresh jetty]

expenite > EXPenite > EXP probably just experience points for leveling up your gear

[balmy sky]

That would be neat, making EXP a mineable resource rather than just a general drops from everything substance like Survivor

Not to imply survivor is bad

Just is interesting to see a different game do something different

[austere slate]

rogue core

[balmy sky]

True

I hope if they choose to so seasons for Rogue Core, they offset the release from DRG's seasons in order to not set the games in competition with each other

Maybe each game gets 1 season per year, separated by around half a year. Let's say DRG gets a season in June, and Rogue Core gets one in November

I think that would be the best way of handling seasonal progression for both games (assuming GSG actually does utilize seasons for Rogue Core, which is probably too early to say for sure)

Just a thought I had

[past moat]

Have they said anything about closed alpha?

[rocky dove]

coming quarter 1 of next year

[wispy remnant]

Nothing yet besides being released in Q1 2024

[past moat]

early access?

[wispy remnant]

I personally do not see seasonal content to be a thing for Rogue Core, they can drop major updates with a lot of content each like DRG used to before going for the season update methods

[wispy remnant]

November 2024

[small bough]

yeah if Rogue Core and DRG get 1 major content update a year

but splitting it up, so DRG gets it in say January and Rogue Core gets it in June

encourages people to try both games

[wispy remnant]

Yeah maybe
As both games also to be sharing the same lore and universe

[small bough]

plus in all honest DRG is feature complete and there's already hundreds if not thousands of hours worth of fun to be had

there's only so much you can add

[wispy remnant]

Even if you are a greybeard veteran who has got everything, you can still play for fun

[small bough]

I've got 350 hours in DRG, and if they never make anything new for the game

it's still worth the purchase and got my moneys worth

[tall plume]

🤔

[small bough]

meant to be 'and if'

[rocky dove]

that if was pretty key lol

[wispy remnant]

372 hours on the game, started on March this year and I am still finding out stuff I have not known about lol

[tall plume]

Makes more sense that way
I do suggest you check the pinned message in #drg-chat

[wispy remnant]

Honestly the game is more being finished

[small bough]

yeah they confirmed what I suspected

the more work you do for a game, the harder it becomes to update

[wispy remnant]

It is filled with countless content, that newer players not even know it existed for the first place

[small bough]

it's why I think the stigma of 'games should always get content updates' is often more damaging

because it's not realistic

[junior mountain]

I hope these new elite dwarves finally get something to eat on their ship

[small bough]

GSG working on Rogue Core is likely the most healthy thing the companies done in a long time

[carmine zenith]

We'd have season 10 by now if the developers hadn't spent all their time making a board game 😔

[wispy remnant]

It is honestly a good choice for them, moving out of DRG so they can focus on other projects they enjoy and RC seems to be the perfect next game to work on

[small bough]

truthfully I would like to see GSG move away from DRG, like as the IP

but they got more stories and experiences to tell

if they wanna make DRG into a franchise I'll love to see it

[forest rain]

Is rogue core already released?

[wispy remnant]

Yeah there is still a ton of lore that is not being revealed

[rocky dove]

no

[wispy remnant]

I wish lol

[wispy remnant]

I think that what makes GSG still on focused on DRG so much its the lore and world building

[lilac crypt]

self-pin

[tall plume]

Tater no

Bad

[carmine zenith]

and I'll do it again

[carmine zenith]

Can't handle the truth smh

[tall plume]

We don't need more misinformation

[small bough]

I can't wait to make my next DRG update video with confirmation that the Board Games are responsible

[carmine zenith]

lol

[small bough]

question would we be on Season 12 if they didn't make the Lootbug plushies

[carmine zenith]

Sure, I'll add that to my headcanon

[forest rain]

How drg players can be so negative

I hope rogue core will be like drg

Then I play 2 good games

[small bough]

they're not thaaaat negative

it's just the loud minority

give it a few days or weeks it'll be back to nonsense and shitposting

[tall plume]

people being entitled and unable to read will do that

thankfully, they're a loud minority

[small bough]

yeah most people are happy for Rogue Core

and truthfully haven't played enough DRG to complain about the wait for S5

because they'll be the same people to complete the Season Pass in 2 weeks when it launches

[wet tulip]

Damn the developers for making us more dwarf content! Gosh!

[small bough]

I understand the annoyance with the wait time

[carmine zenith]

Dwarfvelopers*

[tall plume]

The game development studio is making a new game AND still supporting the old one ? HOW DARE !?

[small bough]

if I was in the community long enough and went from updates every 2 months or so, to now a whole year. I'll be a bit disheartened

[tiny kite]

i cant believe the devs didn't devout their entire life to DRG

[small bough]

but people need to remember a game in Alpha/Early Access isn't the same as release

[carmine zenith]

Even that's not an excuse

[wet tulip]

And publishing a spin-off, AND making a boardgame 😠 I hate them SO MUCH for this!!

[carmine zenith]

They told us back during beta that updates would take progressively longer to make

[small bough]

yeah but people aren't gonna remember that

[carmine zenith]

This wasn't some unknown development

[small bough]

they're looking for their next dopamine high

[carmine zenith]

People are just being babies

[small bough]

It is what it is, happens in any community. Especially ones built around a game in development

[wet tulip]

Man-and-woman the hell up, everyone! If you want more DRG base game content, you can play with mods!!

[small bough]

people did the same stuff with Minecraft

and expecting gamers to understand game development aren't never gonna happen unfortunately

[simple matrix]

This was unexpected. I hope they can sideline rockpox before season 5. This new game sounds like a really cool concept. I may have to join the open beta when I get my own computer. Or just when the full release happens.

[small bough]

I'm down for closed alphas for co-op shooters

I was super into the B4B community during their whole thing

to get that chance with Rogue Core would be sweet

[pearl tinsel]

I'm not really annoyed about the lack of season content, just hope they kind of rethink how to handle seasons in the future, and what kind of content they focus on

[small bough]

they mentioned improving communication

which will likely be the best step forward

[hollow palm]

I don’t WANT new and better things later!

[pearl tinsel]

All the rival stuff basically evaporated after season 2, and now rockpox will presumably also be basically nonexistent. I hope whatever they add next season is mostly additions to the core game, like new main mission or standard enemies to the mob pool

[full flare]

I have high hopes for rogue core, if they can make the progression system and loot super addicting (in a good way) it might be even more fun than DRG

[pearl tinsel]

Yeah kinda more interested in rogue core lol, it has more potential for new innovations at this point

[full flare]

It could literally have all the updates people are craving for

[unreal furnace]

Has anyone hear bought the board game?

[full flare]

Like new boss fights, biomes, weapons synergies

I’m excited

Just wish they don’t dumb down the upgrades system. The one currently showcased in prints don’t attract me at all.

[velvet marsh]

I love new ideas and stuff like this, and it seems the devs are also quite passionate about this, in my book that's grand

[full flare]

These % upgrades to health and damage are so much akin to mobile games and are not fun at all imo

[pearl tinsel]

It's going to be a really different kind of game which is what makes it interesting to me. A full roguelite using drg's terrain system and combat sounds quite fantastic

[pearl tinsel]

Stat upgrades are pretty typical of roguelites, not that weird

[full flare]

Yeah I know…just feel like they dont always translate well what they are actually upgrading

[velvet marsh]

It's in its earliest alpha stage, but yeah, hopefully eventually there's some real fun and wacky upgrades that synergize nicely, that's what makes a roguelite super repayable and fun

[full flare]

Like on some games where +10 atk speed is the same as +5 strength in the end

I hate these kind of maths on games like these hahahah

[harsh vine]

This game will be epic!

[pearl tinsel]

That's not really a mobile game issue

[carmine zenith]

We'd have season 10 already if khino spent more time making fan music 😔

[gleaming musk]

can i ask whats this game supposed to be

[pearl tinsel]

It's also probably using DRG's weapon system as a base so we already know how damage and fire rate work already

[velvet marsh]

NOOO MY MUSICIAN ANXIETY

[carmine zenith]

Follow the sage words of shia lebouf

https://tenor.com/view/nike-just-do-it-gif-26636514

[velvet marsh]

I would actually love to make a pitch for Rogue Core's soundtrack, started working on a little main theme yesterday

It's fun as heck to think of all the ways it could sound similar, but also different from drg

[gleaming musk]

damn first survivor now rogue core

[carmine zenith]

We're gonna need at least one track with 15 kazoos

[gleaming musk]

they keep making spinoffs for some reason

[pearl tinsel]

They're only publishing survivor

[gleaming musk]

ik

still they oversee it

[velvet marsh]

Don't tempt me, I'll make metal riffs with those kazoos, and make them sound surprisingly heavy too

[tame moon]

The deep rock galactic cinematic universe is real

[gleaming musk]

and gave rights to use the drg branding

[wraith folio]

The devs only released years of free content for us! 4 seasons of free stuff! What a rip-off! 😭
sarcasm, if it isn't obvious

[sage rose]

everyone got that 1 marshmellow mindset fr

[gleaming musk]

im not saying im ungrateful

im just suprised

[carmine zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-dewit-gif-11426456

[wraith folio]

I'm just saying in general xD

[lone cypress]

will gsg make an alpha/beta test for rc?

[gleaming musk]

oh ok

[wraith folio]

Soooo many people are acting like that

But yeah, lots of spin-offs, much hype

[carmine zenith]

Anyways, if you're gonna take away anything from this channel it's that drg is dead and the board game killed it.

[wraith folio]

hahahhaha

[lone cypress]

the only issue i may take with rc is separated contents

rc may get new fun enemies which we will never see in drg

[velvet marsh]

So true, anyways I can't wait for the Halloween event and the silly hats

[lone cypress]

same for the opposite

[dry pasture]

When is Rogue Core coming out?

[rocky dove]

steam early access is planned for november of next year

[dry pasture]

damn im gonna be 20 when it comes out on console

[velvet marsh]

Happy early birthday miner, rock and stone

[wet tulip]

I'll be 56 when we get season 5 of Rogue Core (and I'll be glad to have it!)

[bitter oasis]

i know literally nothing about rogue core, do we have gameplay footage of it anywhere?

[fickle iris]

no

[bitter oasis]

or, like, do we know what genre it is

chances are it's gonna be a roguelite considering the name

[lone cypress]

genre is in the title

[bitter oasis]

yeah, though that hasn't been confirmed

[modest forge]

It's got a steam page with the genre and a few screenshots

[wispy remnant]

For a prototype build, it does look gorgeous from the screenshots

[wispy remnant]

Devs themselves have confirmed it is a roguelike FPS coop, even on the steam page reveals on the description and About section

[bitter oasis]

ah i'm taking a look at it now thanks

looks cool

[lone cypress]

haz5 rando picking bad perks

rc will be glorious

[inner dirge]

Man a whole nother year is going to be a tough wait

[deft heath]

kazoo rock galactic: riff core

[lyric nymph]

adult dreadnought in this game would be cool

[deft heath]

we should call them nreandoughts

[shell tiger]

i am excited to see new screenshots

[atomic quartz]

What is this chat

About

[balmy sky]

For the upcoming new DRG spinoff

[icy marsh]

Drg rouge core

[balmy sky]

Rougelike FPS

[atomic quartz]

Nice ig

[primal veldt]

im like nearly 100% confident nobody will play it after a month besides a handful of people

[icy marsh]

You just need to actually like

Ya know

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages

[icy marsh]

Okay the game

[mellow citrus]

Depends on how good and fun it's gonna be

[old swift]

i mean, if it wasn't this they were putting dev time into it's likely we'd get another poorly fleshed out enemy faction that stays for a season or two

[icy marsh]

When it releases

[primal veldt]

doesnt matter, it wont attract the DRG crowd outside of name, and i dont think DRG plays all necessarily enjoy roguelikes

[old swift]

i think this has a ton more potential to be fleshed out

[primal veldt]

they’re two totally different things

[icy marsh]

So does DRGS

[balmy sky]

I mean, think of how long DRG itself flew under the radar, RC could fall off for a bit; but blow up later on its own merits

[icy marsh]

It's an entirely different gane

[primal veldt]

do u have any fps roguelikes in ur library?

[icy marsh]

Yet it's fun

And has its own charm

Different from drg

So will probably be rouge core

[balmy sky]

Not personally, but I do have plenty of rougelikes already

[mellow citrus]

I would have but my pc is ancient shit, so it can't run any sadly

[balmy sky]

I do know people who play DRG and have loads of roguelikes as well

[old swift]

there's not a whole lot of good coop roguelites that i know of

ror2 has multiplayer, but that's like singleplayer with another player

[mellow citrus]

ong, that would make rouglikes so much more fun

[primal veldt]

do you see my point?

you’re in the same shoe as a lot of DRG fans, you’re gonna grab it cause DRG, realize its not DRG except in aesthetic, then drop it because the gameplay isnt DRG, its a different genre that you already are not playing

[balmy sky]

And ultimately, branching to a different genre could draw new people into the fanbase, depending on how good the game turns out

[old swift]

it's going to be very similar, from what we know

i mean it was meant to be a drg gamemode

combat will likely be quite similar, terrain interactions, enemies, etc

[balmy sky]

I disagree. I will drop it if I don't like it, not because it's unfamiliar. And while I'm partially playing it out of brand loyalty, I also do trust GSG will put their heart into making this a fun game in its own right

[primal veldt]

they exist, you just dont know about them because its not a genre you particularly enjoy THAT much, which is ok but it means u arent the target audience likely

[tall plume]

I fail to see how it matters

[balmy sky]

Unaware =/= non-enjoyment

Sometimes you haven't discovered something because you haven't been exposed to it. Aside from MvM, I never played a CoOp shooter before DRG

Now I love them

[primal veldt]

you think there’s a chance you’re going to magically enjoy a genre that you already are avoiding playing right now when theres nothing in your path?

its like you REALLY like this movie director but he makes a horror film and you dont like horror films, what are the odds you’ll like the movie

[balmy sky]

And have branched out to other games in the genre

[primal veldt]

the issue is its very much a DRG 1.5 and is taking away dev time out of DRG into DRG 1.5, so naturally players are going to flock to the more consistently updated DRG and discover its not DRG, people fell in love with DRG for everything that falls under it, they fell in love with DRG not an fps roguelike

[balmy sky]

I'm not avoiding it, I just really haven't been exposed to it. There's a difference.

It's moreso like a director I like is making a horror movie, and I've never seen a horror movie before. I may like it. I may not.

[old swift]

but it's got a lot of drg elements in it

it's not like they're making a 2d dungeon crawler or something

[brave oriole]

We have had 1 trailer and a few screenshots lol, we dont know if its drg 1.5 yet.

[void musk]

Bro chill we haven't seen hardly anything about it or even played it, this is a faaaar reach

[old swift]

if it was i wouldn't care much at all

[primal veldt]

spin offs for any title are not carried by the branding alone

[balmy sky]

And considering we don't know that much about this game, we can't say Rogue Core will be carried solely by branding

[tall plume]

So you're saying people are idiots and can't read a store page ? And you're blaming this on who ?

[balmy sky]

We have all of like 10 screenshots, a steam description, and a teaser trailer

[primal veldt]

i think you’d be pretty upset to find out how marketing and consumer habits work

[balmy sky]

Hardly the most detailed material to judge the appeal of this game on

[mellow citrus]

are we currently debating about the post launch popularity of the game that is supposed to release in like 8 month from now on?

[tall plume]

I don't think I would be surprised but I fail to see why the game or GSG is at fault

[void musk]

The game won't even hit full release until like maaaybe 2025-2026

You're making broad assumptions for some reason

[primal veldt]

do you have any fps roguelikes in your library?

[brave oriole]

Why are you talking like you know everything about RC lol, we have very little information so idk where you are getting your assumptions from. let people be optimistic for a new game.

[void musk]

I have a few on my wishlist, I like roguelites.

[balmy sky]

Yeah, idk about using "people are idiots" to justify criticizing the game and deeming it fundamentally flawed before we even get to play it

[void musk]

It's a popular genre that people gravitate towards.

[primal veldt]

not wishlist, i meant in ur library, that you frequently played, used to frequently play, etc

[void musk]

Nah but I like roguelite and I like fps

[balmy sky]

Exactly, there's only so much judgement we can make before we actually get to play the game ourselves

[frail fable]

We also saw Karl, lets not forget

Great game

[brave oriole]

did we?

[balmy sky]

Then we can more accurately judge how fun it is, if it's a failure or not, etc

[frail fable]

Yes, over there

[void musk]

There's no reason to be upset. Drg content is fleshed out enough and they wanna try something new. Who's gonna stop them? Why the entitlement

[brave oriole]

OMG

[void musk]

And drg content will continue coming anyway

[primal veldt]

you can still draw inferences especially since we know the genre, we know how games of similar genres operate and the patterns it goes through as it relates to players, gameplay loop, etc

@mellow citrus do you have any fps roguelikes in your library

[tidal bison]

Love it when we have to have rock pox for 8 more months

:D

[frail fable]

(:

[balmy sky]

I didn't have any co-op FPS games in my library before deep rock

That has no bearing on my enjoyment for the game

[tall plume]

Let's go back a bit and answer to the initial statement here.

What is your ground to lay such claim outside of "people who like DRG will buy it without thinking and will drop it later", which really is people's own fault.
We've seen nothing on this game at all outside of a vaguely cinematic trailer and a 7 screenshots of an extremely early stage of the game.

Do you, perhaps, have any data as to how FPS roguelites of other companies are failing and why it's not worth pursuing such endeavour ?

[void musk]

I trust GSG with an FPS roguelike to make it meaningful different and worth playing. They have some wonderful ideas from DRG to pull from

[brave oriole]

What does genre have to do with it? Like it just shows a general vibe and style to gameplay, but has very little to do with general dev cycles. GSG has a good trackrecord, so why ignore that just cause they are making a new game in the same world.

[mellow citrus]

I played couple because my PC isn't capable of launching most of them, although I watched many roguelikes videos

[void musk]

GSG doing a take on one of my favorite genres is awesome and I can't wait to find out how it turns out.

That's all

[primal veldt]

they’re not failing, the issue is the market is just not the same, and GS is actively griefing the nice little niche they created themselves within the broader industry

why would you gimp development you’re doing REALLY well in to put your foot in a genre that is COMPLETELY different than what your current fanbase consumes?

[old swift]

same way i feel

[pulsar sierra]

Too bad you can’t disable the season stuff from the terminal, so hit a button to not have rockpox stuff show up for you (unless someone in your team has it on)

[old swift]

because that's not the path they want to take, they either gimp development by slowing it down and focusing on rogue core or they gimp development by releasing more underdeveloped seasonal content

[brave oriole]

What is your point??

You don't want them to make a new game?

[balmy sky]

I don't think it's a problem to diversify your games, expand into new genres

[mellow citrus]

DRG artstyle
Horror aestethic
Coop
Multiplayer
Rougelike
That the only things that I need to get me hyped

[void musk]

Drg isn't even an original game genre itself bro

[balmy sky]

Valve did it and became quite successful

[void musk]

They didn't create a new genre

Same way roguelite isn't a new genre

What's the big deal

[frail fable]

Valve did nothing, it was all Gaben

Hard carry

[tall plume]

so you're saying GSG should never do another game because the market already has other similar games ?
do you realise how stupidly insane that sounds like ?

[void musk]

They have great things to bring to the roguelite genre, they're very good at things like procedural generation, atmosphere, sound design, weapon feel

[frail fable]

Were you mistaken for human?

[balmy sky]

Story based single player FPS, 3D Puzzle games, Team Based Class FPS, Co-Op Shooter, VR FPS Puzzle Game, MOBA

[primal veldt]

do not get me wrong, rogue core is 100% up my alley, and i will probably enjoy it far more than the average drg player, but i dont think its a coincidence that many of the people in chat just have been magically avoiding fps roguelikes, methinks its just not a genre they like and thats ok, but thats a matter of fact

[old swift]

i don't know of any good fps coop roguelikes, i am open to suggestions if you've got any

[primal veldt]

but thats not how spin offs work

[brave oriole]

What is your point? like what are you trying to convince people of?????????

[primal veldt]

every mario fan doesnt love the rpg spin offs

[old swift]

the only thing i can think of is gunfire reborn, and nobody i know has shown interest in it

[primal veldt]

same with pokemon franchise and the MD series

[balmy sky]

If Valve just made games akin to Half Life and Half Life 2, never diversifying, I doubt they'd be as successful as they are today

[carmine zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/utopia-gif-21647156

[tall plume]

There's no point, it's just doom posting for the sake of it

[brave oriole]

Risk Of Rain 2 is pretty fun

[carmine zenith]

Drg if gsg hadn't made spinoffs

[balmy sky]

And I don't fault GSG for trying to diversify beyond a pure Co-Op FPS

[carmine zenith]

;P

[old swift]

i have a few hundred hours in ror2, the coop isn't what i'd consider good though

drg is much more coop focused, and nicer gun feel imo

[median sleet]

This game is gonna suck because GSG made another game that's really good

[balmy sky]

Like do you expect GSG to only update DRG until the end of time; or only make new CO-op FPS games forever

[frail fable]

DRG2 sometime would be okay

Other than that? 😡

[void musk]

So it makes them a complete failure and waste of time? I don't really understand your line of thinking. A developer should never go outside their own little box and just continue to make the same game over and over?

[brave oriole]

Fair, The COOP is def a side feature, not the core gameplay.

[void musk]

I have not tried it yet but I've heard Roboquest is very good

I wanna buy it

[median sleet]

Yeah, and everyone loved it when they milked the new super mario bros games and released the same game 10x

[primal veldt]

yes, that is literally what i said btw, verbatim as well

if im known for making good lemonade maybe the next product i release is a lemon flavored soda, probably a smarter move than a gummy bear product

[frail fable]

If noone likes surely noone will buy it?

[brave oriole]

That seems to be the case tbh, with S5 being delayed till the start of RC. Also the roadmap has two balance and bug fix updates for DRG between now and then IIRC.

[void musk]

Ah so make a slightly different version of your base material. OH WAIT THATS WHAT THEYRE DOING

[median sleet]

I was young...

[brave oriole]

So you hate fun? Not everything is a marketing ploy, they probably just want to make a new game lmao

[void musk]

Yeah it's not really that deep it seems, the devs just wanna make something new and they're super excited to work on this. They feel sorry for having to delay drg in the meantime but they don't want to crunch and put out a bad product.

On stream they said that the previous season delays were also tied to rogue core development and they felt so bad that they couldn't open up about the reason the updates took so long. So they announced RC as soon as possible.

[brave oriole]

💯 💯 💯

[median sleet]

Nah, obviously the devs are a bunch of hardcore Danish capitalists who only want your money.

[tall plume]

By your logic, Blizzard should have never made Diablo and From Software would be making Armored Core 20.

[void musk]

They also said they will put out rockpox tweaks to try to mitigate the pain points for the community

[old swift]

for rockpox specifically, they said?

[void musk]

They honestly sounded about as done with rockpox as us and they openly acknowledged that

It was on the dev stream today, I listened passively while at work

[frail fable]

Microsoft should have never made minesweeper... oh god

[primal veldt]

deadlink 1.0 came out relatively recently, someone here already mentioned roboquest, getting a 1.0 soon but honestly game has felt more than full for the past year, robobeat got delayed for next year but its my defacto most anticipated game rn its a rhythm shooter tho, returnal has been out since forever, void bastards has been out since forever, strafe has been out since forever but its meh IMO, mothergunship is VERY interesting, probably some im missing but all i can think of rn

[brave oriole]

There are two DRG maintenance updates on the roadmap, one for November and another for March.

So even if there's no new content for DRG they are still refining the existing stuff.

[tall plume]

good example too

[void musk]

They expanded on a lot of things on today's stream so if anyone wants more info I highly recommend it

[old swift]

have had deadlink on my wishlist for a while, was waiting for it to come out of ea

[void musk]

Talked about how DRG and rogue core will co exist and what that relationship might look like as far as content crossovers, etc

[fathom coral]

Best example is “valve should’ve never made tf2” because the similarities between these two situations is honestly identical

In that tf2 is basically a mod of half life

Same way rogue core is basically a mod of drg

[tall plume]

S5 and S6 have been confirmed so content for DRG is still on the horizon, just on a slower schedule

[old swift]

oh right that's fps too

[brave oriole]

Is there a TLDR, Im lazy lol

[primal veldt]

i wouldnt be doomposting if everyone who was hopeful actually had some experience in roguelike fps, but nobody plays the genre here, because theres no overlap afaik, like its not like smt and xenoblade fandoms

[fathom coral]

We already know that rogue core is gonna feel like drg

[frail fable]

They will remove cores from promotions, back to weekly chores

[fathom coral]

The overarching gameplay loop is just different

[void musk]

Not sure. A lot of it came from people asking questions in chat as well

[tall plume]

Ah yes because obviously you can extrapolate this data out of 5 people answering you

[brave moss]

hyped af for this game. Absolutely love roguelikes (second favourite genre) and combining it with DRG's combat is gonna be cool af.

[carmine zenith]

Come back in, see more pissbaby takes, "yeah that's about what I expected"

[round crane]

Is it confirmed that it's 4 new/different dwarves?

[brave oriole]

Yup

[tall plume]

confirmed to have no classes

[hollow wolf]

It's not the dwarves we're used to

They're a reclaimer unit

And yeah no classes

[round crane]

LETS GO

[void musk]

Yeah you just can't make these kind of broad claims based off of one chat room with about 15 people typing in it dude

You literally cannot

[fathom coral]

Honestly im excited to see what more gsg can do with the drg engine

Lotta potential in it

[void musk]

You're just making a strawman to support your cracked theory

[tall plume]

No idea how they will handle it with voicelines but your dwarf will feel more personal overall, I believe

[median sleet]

5 people ☝️ reacted this, that means the entire DRG community loves roguelikes

[fathom coral]

Perhaps SoT customization but not predatory

[hollow wolf]

I play rogue lite fps games and I'm hopeful for the game.

[frail fable]

Voice type: Foppish.
Voice pitch: 100%.

HANANGHENANGYEAAAAH

[rose arch]

also, probably shouldn't gatekeep hope people have for developers just cuz it may be new to some people

[brave moss]

lol for real.

[primal veldt]

thats just how it goes, a brand steps a little bit too out of the box and when it drops people get upset and hate it, because people hate change, then in 10-20 years you see people on youtube making retrospectives or video essays about how the game is misunderstood when it was really that you abandoned your target audience

[tall plume]

we'll see, excited to see how they'll tackle new challenges tbh

[brave moss]

seen a bunch of people whine on twitter

[frail fable]

On what?

[brave moss]

and like it's twitter, so what'd i expect lol?

[round crane]

well that's the problem right there, looking for opinions on twitter

[fathom coral]

Like item/upgrade synergy

[brave moss]

but it's still annoying. An entire game is obviously gonna have more content and unique mechanics than a game mode can in an existing game.

nor is support ending for regular DRG.

[median sleet]

99% of the 'in retrospective' videos about the new super mario bros series dislike every game after the 1st one

[brave moss]

lmao, i know. I stay off social media in general (don't even have any outside of twitter), but sometimes check twitter due to the shorter formats tweets have.

[brave moss]

for real.

[round crane]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

):

no gif

[brave moss]

rip

[mellow citrus]

Isn't the reason they started developing rogue core as it's own things because they thought that it would be funnier to play it without limitation of DRG mechanics?

[primal veldt]

fromsoftware is a little more than halfway there so i dont see this point, and diablo is a new IP, not a spinoff of warcraft

[brave moss]

no, it's because they tried it as a game mode and found that it could do a ton more as a standalone game

[brave moss]

says so in the news post about it

[frail fable]

Embed detonator fail

[rose arch]

so, we don't talk about bungie going from halo to destiny, right? They'd definitely lose their player base with that pivot

[brave moss]

i personally don't care either way. I'll own & 100% the entire franchise cuz it's amazing lmao. Ordered the board game a few days ago and am (im)patiently awaiting its arrival.

[vast harbor]

Whats rogue core

[frail fable]

Or breaking half the game every time they added something

[brave oriole]

Same

[brave moss]

roguelike DRG

[round crane]

based and dwarf-pilled

[primal veldt]

its been out of EA for 2 months, it was advertised on frontpage of steam too for like 2-3 days as long as your recommended page is flooded with roguelikes

[brave moss]

lol thanks

[frail fable]

Bigger scope of game, easier for it all to go to heck

[acoustic shell]

roguelite

[mellow citrus]

basically what I was saying, ig I said it wrong

[brave moss]

i have over 1k hours on DRG now, and while it is still fun it's nice to have something different ya know?

[frail fable]

Makes sense to create separate game at some point to deal with it

[brave moss]

nah, i might've misread your post

[brave oriole]

New game, similar to DRG but Rougelike, new characters and the such, not much info out about it atm.

[brave moss]

for real

hell, Survivor is already doing that

[void musk]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-wall-talk-gif-5290288 everyone talking to froz

[brave moss]

tried out the demo and it's noice. Even got Vampire Survivors cuz of it.

[round crane]

20 minutes till dawn is a newer rougelike that I enjoy, I highly recommend it

[brave moss]

yeah, i'll have to check it out

[hollow wolf]

I honestly don't think Rogue Core is way outside the existing customer base. Yeah it's a roguelite but it's also a co-op first FPS with the same proc gen and terrain manipulation and emphasis on teamwork

[mellow citrus]

wait, it's on PC too? I just downloaded it from google store because it looked fun

[primal veldt]

it’d be cherrypicking not strawmanning, but you have to contextualize the quality of the numbers as well, this is the DRG discord, the most loyal drg fans are going to be here, because unlike the avg fan they interact with the game outside of just gameplay alone etc

[brave moss]

not to mention that it's still its own game so people will buy it if it seems interesting to them

[round crane]

yeah the mobile version isn't too bad, I just prefer PC

[brave moss]

i've seen a couple vids on the board game that start with "this is based on a video game that i haven't played, but the board game seemed neat so i bought it"

[hollow wolf]

Even if they miacalc a little, who cares. DRG has sold a gajillon copies and it's fine to experiment

[primal veldt]

they’re permanently cutting development of drg by splitting the GS team as a whole

[brave moss]

PC is the best platform, after all.

[frail fable]

Is that Gabe?

[hollow wolf]

It's not like they're pulling DRG off the store to do Rogue Core

[void musk]

you know how many millions play this game? and how many of those millions you are talking to in one chat room?

[brave moss]

no, according to the update post they're gonna devote chunks of time to each project so things get done at a decent pace

[frail fable]

Season 6 incident

[brave moss]

i think you mean *IP (since it uses Unreal Engine), but yeah same here

[mellow citrus]

not like DRG was gonna be in the golden age forever

[brave moss]

getting more info about how tf Hoxxes works is neat

and of course new gameplay for it all

[brave moss]

what?

[void musk]

they said some biomes will return from drg as well

i think also some new ones will be made for rogue core

but overall seems like they dont like to reuse too many assets like a lot of guns

which is cool

[primal veldt]

“my house will catch on fire eventually, might as well rub the walls with cooking oil now so its faster” type defense there

[carmine zenith]

Poison swamp level time

[brave moss]

yeah, if it's gonna be near the core of the planet ofc the terrain would be different

i also think the planet itself should try to attack you (kinda like the heartstone does), or we get more Ommoran stuff as enemies/bosses/events//etc.

[void musk]

Yeah maybe a mix of both. Some old biomes as we are diving deeper into the levels

And newer ones as we approach the end

[median sleet]

Nah, every biome is magma core

[void musk]

I think theres some great potential with this coexistence lore-wise

[brave moss]

NO! GOD, PLEASE NO!

[void musk]

Fleshing out hoxxes even more will be cool

[mellow citrus]

nah you just sounded like you expected for the game bloom forever without losing any playerbase or getting bad updates

[frail fable]

Okay, oil shale biome

Every rock is 4 hit

[round crane]

KARL SAVE US ALL

[median sleet]

Also more earthquakes because you're closer to the core

[brave moss]

would be a bit neat but yeah

[carmine zenith]

The core is just a big board game for candyland

[hollow palm]

It’s probably gonna be a risk of rain thing where each depth level has a random set of biomes to choose from

[raven robin]

Maybe it finnaly shows what the error cube is for xD

[void musk]

I could see that

[brave moss]

since they changed it to make enemies affected too, that's fine by me.

[round crane]

👁️ 👁️

[brave moss]

god, please yes.

[round crane]

Imagine tyrant weed infested caves

[brave moss]

4k XP is nice and all, but i have like 70 burning a hole in my pocket lmao

[round crane]

or a fully grown dreadnaught

[light geyser]

So, I've heared the devs may use a different voic actor as the mission control person for rogue core, I'd realy like to propose this greedy texan to be honest, i realy think he would bring something special to the mission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Qe0yued-k

[brave moss]

sign me tf up lol

love the korlok and low-key need more of it

[mellow citrus]

now that's is something I'm looking forward

[carmine zenith]

Error cubes will be used to unlock coupons for the in game store for a 10 cent discount on $20 loot barrels

[void musk]

I also heard they want to bring Havier back to voice dwarves again, I believe. Was on the stream today.

[round crane]

DRG x EA crossover?

[tall plume]

Dunno where you've heard that but I doubt they will use someone else for MC 😄

[raven robin]

Its in the game

[mellow citrus]

more passive aggressive insults toward the player? oh yes please

[carmine zenith]

Limited 1 coupon per purchase

[median sleet]

Is our mission control even gonna be in the game?

[hollow palm]

Level 1: salt pits, caverns, biozone
Level 2: Bogs, glacial, sandblasted
Level 3: hollow, azure, magma core
Level 4: ???

Something like that

[light geyser]

They talked about that in the stream they made for today, but who knows, I'm not sure if was just a maybe or something

[round crane]

I really hope there's voicelines in both games talking trash about the other teams

[primal veldt]

thats still added time

if i allot like 1000 hours for example for a game and thats the chunk of time we work in for an update, so each update is 1000 hours of work and we either finish an update or dont start it, if i have 1 project then i will stack those 1000 hours consecutively, work 1000 hours, ship it, work the next 1000 hours, ship, …

GSG is saying they like this block style they’ve been done, but we’re having another project

so maybe now its 1000 hours of DRG, ship it 1000 of DRG:RC, ship it, …

regardless of the ratio, there is never one that exists as long as they want to invest time into RC that is a 100:0, at best it’d be 99:1, but thats just not happening, we will be getting less frequent updates moving forward, maybe not as bad as this “until june 2024” thing, but 10000% not the previous pace from the year before and the year before that etc

[hollow palm]

I mean maybe the ramrod will have a different dwarf entirely

[light geyser]

Oh I'd realy enjoy that, it would be realy hilaroius

[hollow palm]

Hence the need for a new Mission Control

[void musk]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-blah-blah-blah-roll-eyes-eyeroll-whatever-gif-16216173

[light geyser]

They said you play as different group of dwarves

[hollow palm]

Yeah, reclaimers instead of miners

[brave moss]

yeah, they'd probably have their own mission control

[brave moss]

the elite version of the elite squad

[hollow palm]

And we aren’t from the same space station, we’re on a shop

[brave moss]

like those super-charged green lanterns

alpha core iirc

[hollow palm]

So at the very least we get a sleek new hub area

OH

[small topaz]

more elite short kings

[hollow palm]

NEW HUB MINIGAMES

[light geyser]

I'm extremely interested how it'll be in the ramrod

[round crane]

Not so sure about even having a mission control in rogue core, the whole jist is that they're ship is going deeper with them, unless they have someone back at the ship that stays behind, or they can have contact with the space rig

[raven robin]

Flying past the space rig and making fun about how its big and old an clunkcy ...

[obsidian radish]

will we get a bar tho

[hollow palm]

I don’t think we’re going to crash the ship into the earth

[median sleet]

They should make it so you can play roguecore in the arcade on DRG

[hollow palm]

Sounds cool though

[round crane]

we riot if there isn't

[small topaz]

so if i'm correct

[brave moss]

it'd probably be a briefing before you start then control is mostly cut off due to how deep you are

[mellow citrus]

they should make so that you can see rogue core station from space rig

[hollow palm]

Season 5 of drg will probably have the ramrod in the space window come to think of it

[round crane]

that'd be some solid immersion

[brave moss]

radio tech in-game can already go below 2 or 3 km of rocks, and while that's really good i doubt it's enough to go anywhere near the planet's core.

[hollow palm]

Would be a great black hole warp destination

[small topaz]

rouge core
|
bar --> No? --> riot
|
yes? --> happiness

[brave moss]

i hope it stays there forever. Would be cool af.

or we see it move further away over time

like that big moving cube back when fortnite was relevant

[hollow palm]

I mean we have pox on the window and in buckets, and robot parts in the basement

[median sleet]

I want to see the ramrod blasting the lithophage meteorite

[brave moss]

yeah

[hollow palm]

If s5 is core based, then yeah we will probably get a ramrod model in orbit

[obsidian radish]

yes --> get drunk

[brave moss]

but ships tend to move around

kinda the point of a space ship

[hollow palm]

It’s orbit

[mellow citrus]

ramrod is the name of the ship in rogue core?

[hollow palm]

Ya

[unreal current]

You think were gonna finally see a fully grown dreadnaught?

[brave moss]

but things in orbit move around to stay in orbit, and i doubt the space rig and ship weigh the same amount

[obsidian radish]

gonna hope for no and say yes

[mellow citrus]

damn, goes hard fr

[hollow palm]

We’ve seen the exact same side of hoxxes for 5 years

[brave moss]

watchu s get something that's akin to fight all 3 at once and the miner's manual says "we're not sure if this is the final form of a dreadnought"

[hollow palm]

I think they’ll be okay with a ship nearby

[brave moss]

ok i can't argue with that lol

[mellow citrus]

easy, we matched the speed rotation of Hoxxes

[hollow palm]

And it’s two moons

[mellow citrus]

exactly, just like Karl intended

[unreal current]

So the reclaimers give me vibes that they are prob dwarves that were retired greybeards back for more. They were probably retired for a reason -cough drillers war crimes-

[balmy sky]

Honestly that wouke be neat

A bunch of grizzled old dwarves who are sick of Hoxxes's shit

But like

DRG has a horrible pension plan, so they need money

So they come back to the most dangerous mission just because, why not, might see something interesting, and also I desperately need the money

[unreal current]

Maybe the reclaimers were the team who was with karl and there looking for him.

[mellow citrus]

man, why did I hyped myself up even tho the game will release in like one year, I already want to play it so bad

[tall plume]

fair point

[frail fable]

Bruhs, just read reclaimator helmet lore 💀

[balmy sky]

Plot twist, it's a timeskip and it's the same dwarves we play as now

[hollow palm]

It’s not gonna be class based, so each dwarf will need to be sorta homogenous

That does raise some questions for customization

[void musk]

I believe stuff like starting gear will be able to be swapped out as you unlock but Im not 100%

[hollow palm]

The team wants to develop RC in terms of scope and not quality

So I guess we can except them to make a playable game that looks visually in distinct from DRG in its current form

[balmy sky]

I was joking lmao

[round crane]

has it been confirmed that the whole team will be dwarves? as far as I know the ramrod ship description said "Crew: 4"

[hollow palm]

As opposed to like, drg in pre alpha

[hollow palm]

I guess we don’t know, but the operation is tied to the failure of deep mining operations

[round crane]

would hate to work with any pointed eared leaf lovers

[hollow palm]

I would assume a team of mining dwarves would be used.

[balmy sky]

Real

[tawny karma]

do you think they’ll hire new voice actors

[balmy sky]

No elves allowed

[hollow palm]

Maybe

[void musk]

the dwarf VA is supposed to be coming back or at least theyre gonna try to get him

his name is havier

idk how you spell his name

[balmy sky]

Hopefully we can have the option for female dwarves, I think that would be badass

[hollow palm]

If all 4 characters on one team will be identical to one another at the start, then I’d assume they only need Mission Control and the player dwarf

[balmy sky]

I just want to make Karlach

Please

[mellow citrus]

what elve would even had balls to drill to the centre of the hoxxes by themselves

[tawny karma]

female dwarves look very similar to male dwarves

as in they both have beards

[balmy sky]

Good

[hollow palm]

Gimli would pound you for that

I take that back.

I wasn’t sure about the quote, so I did some research

[elder rapids]

nono, there was a whole rant in the movies about female and male dwarves looking the same

[hollow palm]

That was eragon joking “it’s because they have beards”

But in the silmarillion, dwarven women don’t only have beards, they’re born with them

[elder rapids]

yeah.

i mean it makes sense too considering where they are

i don't imagine caves to be the warmest places on the planet

beards = better insulation

[hollow wolf]

Javier

[elder rapids]

what? from red dead 2?

[brave moss]

that'd be cool.

[novel maple]

Would it even be a good idea to have anyone else voice any of the drg dwarves?

[rocky dove]

A different VA would give the dwarves a distinction between the drg dwarves which might be nice

[maiden shore]

I am so hyped

[novel maple]

I think it'd make sense in rogue core though, depending on what the lore of the game will be, if there even will be any

I'm also wondering about the tone of rogue core, the trailer felt quite ominous but then again I'm pretty sure drg itself had a few similiar teasers/trailers

[tall plume]

not something as ominous

but it was also extremely short so wait and see

[novel maple]

the concept is intriguing, feels like things are at stake

[silk dome]

As many of you know, Robert spent a couple hours last Thursday answering questions in #drg-chat regarding both Rogue Core and DRG. It was very informative, but a bit hard to follow. I took the liberty of condensing the Q&A into a more readable format here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/171nwms/we_did_a_qa_during_todays_livestream_to_address/k3s3txi/

[frigid path]

It’s gonna be weird since there’s gonna be some semblance of a story with potentially an ending with Rogue Core

at least that’s the feeling i’m getting

[zealous spear]

having a unique va for each dwarf is something i think would be cool for normal drg
a new game is a good opportunity for it imo ||even though there's no classes||

[ebon ravine]

I see one downside of this though. If you're communicating with pings and whatever and the dwarves are talking if they all sound identical then you don't know right away who is pinging/talking. Though it's kind of the same story in regular DRG if multiple players are playing the same class.

[frigid path]

Definitely gonna be more to it than DRG

[hollow palm]

I guess they could go left for dead and have different voices

That’s why I was wondering how customization would work

[hollow palm]

I mean ehhh

Roguelikes have endings in a sense of the word

I just wonder what the scope of gameplay loop is gonna be

I have lots of questions but I guess they have to wait

[frigid path]

definitely feels like it won’t have the longevity of DRG with how they can expand but they could surprise us

[chrome lake]

They could do something similar to Darkest Dungeon 2 where there is progression outside of the run

And roguelikes as a genre tend to be very replayable

[cursive acorn]

I’m excited for the lore

[merry thicket]

so is this about another season?

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages

[faint aspen]

Y'know I just thought? If we're getting most if not every weapon from DRG proper as lootable ones in RC and the Reclaimers have not one but multiple starting weapons to choose from, then what other archetypes of weapons could we even see? Maybe this would finally be the chance we'd get for a non-pickaxe melee weapon that might have its own ammo system for example? I mean DRG's got a lot of the basics covered: Shotguns, SMGs, Semi-Auto Rifles, Assault Rifles, so honestly I'm curious to see what we might get in that department now that RC has more creative liberty than DRG's more specific class based structure.

[summer ferry]

I think having a mission control wouldn't make much sense at all because contact is cut off

I hope we have an onboard ai in the Ramrod to direct us -v-

[patent valve]

TLDR question....When or how to play rogue core?

[last pond]

at some point in the future probably

there's a road map on the steam page that shows the earliest point people can access the game

unless I am remembering wrong

[patent valve]

@last pond Thanks buddy! Work made me no read-y...ROCK AND STONE friendo!

[last pond]

rock and stone!

[simple cloak]

Plot twist: The Doretta heads we've been rescuing were repurposed as Ramrod Ai

[mellow citrus]

but how are we gonna annoy the mission control without mission control

[summer ferry]

Remember it's a much more serious game

[ebon ravine]

i do like the roguelike idea tbh; gives a different approach to builds

where instead of just putting together your optimized loadouts or whatever you want, you'd have to come up with something on the fly

[mellow citrus]

well then we gonna seriously annoy the mission control, it's that easy

[summer ferry]

DOGA(Dough-ga)
Digital
Onboard
Guidance
Ai

[ebon ravine]

so a roguelite then

[mellow citrus]

although I woudn't mind if AI was something like GLaDOS

[summer ferry]

Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying uwu

[forest rain]

i selfishly hope AoE in rogue core would be handled in a way similar to Noita, where *damage perks will multiply blast radius

[wet tulip]

Noita is a top tier roguelike game

[forest rain]

bomb 2xglass funny

[wet tulip]

Noita, Dead Cells, TBOI, prides and joys of Steam.

Noita is on sale rn iirc

[forest rain]

nice

[quiet slate]

I do believe they mentioned Gunfire Reborn as an inspiration (though theres plenty others im sure) so I bet there is a desire for build diversity and crazy shenanigans.

[split kraken]

so in rogue core u just become Karl

[buoyant cedar]

I don't think so? It's saying that operations went dark in the trailer...meaning we're playing way in the future, past DRG, which would explain the wait on the theming for season 5

which they say is the "prelude to Season 5" so it's definitely more likely that way

[heavy kettle]

love that they're leaning into the horror aspect of the lore, so very excited to play this! I have no reason NOT to trust GSG 🙂

[pearl tinsel]

Not that far in the future, presumably drg still has regular mining operations in other regions, like the ones where drg takes place in. The ones they started in the core just went dark

Though what's confusing to me is we already have lore on why there's no permanent on-site mining operations already, dunno why they would try again just for some new mineral

[inland palm]

operations in the core specificlly. They explain that its a deeper part of hoxxes then the areas of normal drg where expedite is found

[icy vapor]

Flip that part around. "Thematically, Season 5 will be a prelude in advance of Rogue Core." From the Steam post.
As for time between one to the other, I'm pretty sure I saw something about seeing The Ramrod from the Space Rig, and vise versa; think rescue timeline to LV-426 in Aliens.

[velvet marsh]

I love the idea of looking at the Ramrod from the Space Rig and saying "go get 'em, reclaimers.", then looking at the Space Rig from the Ramrod and saying "keep on truckin', miners."

[elder rapids]

i love how honest GSG is

[elder rapids]

but of all the names did really have to pick fucking ramrod of ALL things?

[stark dawn]

Will rogue core have procedurally generated maps?

[fierce solstice]

It's probably too early to think about this, but it's very likely

If not generated the game will feel boring pretty fast

[static goblet]

To my awareness, the current Rogue Core is using many elements from DRG atm (as stand in)

[proud linden]

I've played a bit of the demo for DRG: Survivor, and noticed there's two or three weapons that looked new, like the stun gun and the cryo drones.
Would those weapons also be part of Rogue Core?

I mean, would stuff from DRG: Survivor also make their way to the other DRG games like Rogue Core?

[static goblet]

Rogue Core is like in its super infancy*

So I bet its going to be subjected to change

[fierce solstice]

I asked the same question for DRG, and the only answer i got is the most generic one : "They can be implemented, but that doesn't mean they will"

[turbid yarrow]

Will the closed alpha be multiplayer, I imagine so yes?

[static goblet]

They said that they would make Rogue Core co-op First, single player second.

[stark dawn]

I hope it's procedurally generated, and that it won't be like a campaign or anything

[static goblet]

Rogue Core is still kinda too young to have anything be set in stone. (No pun intended)

So anything might end up becoming true

[fierce solstice]

Robert told me ferraris can be implemented too

#drg-chat message

[static goblet]

I'm going to be curious as to how a car could be driven in the caves

(Knowing how some terrain are weird)

1mm thick plastecrete

[icy vapor]

"Proceed through the Barrier on foot and fight your way down multiple procedurally-generated stages to the deepest and most dangerous level of the dig site."
-Steam Store Page

[fierce solstice]

Ghost how do you make custom URLs

[icy vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[fierce solstice]

I know everything about discord's custom commands except that

[static goblet]

Any thoughts on a "Pile Bunker" ? (So I could make Glyhid Skewers)

[fierce solstice]

https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2605790/extras/RC_biome_B_store_capsule_24.png?t=1696512821 hold on what is that biome

[Test]https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2605790/extras/RC_biome_B_store_capsule_24.png?t=1696512821

It's not working chief

EEEEEEhttps://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2605790/extras/RC_biome_B_store_capsule_24.png?t=1696512821

[static goblet]

To my awareness, its some prototype/stand in

A cluster of Expenite (Mineral for Rogue Core) I think

[icy vapor]

Missed parentheses, and it might be role locked. (For good reason...)

[fierce solstice]

I don't remember any prototype like that

Test

[pearl tinsel]

Seeing robert's comments make me sad