Helldivers 2

[unborn lantern]

There's been like one or two this whole time I think

Though if you count capes we are drowning in them

[ebon mica]

So who has it worse, helldivers who are just meat for the meatgrinder, or odsts who have no hope of winning

[unborn lantern]

I think they are both screwed but helldivers get more funny/unsafe toys

[mystic blade]

Helldiver after deployment: 2 Minutes on average.
ODST after deployment: Undetermined; long enough to be unable to ascertain, but short enough for it to be recognized as a rough job.

[stable osprey]

average ODST after land:

[unborn lantern]

Apparently the SMG, shotgun and pistol from the ODST warbond will be light armor pen

The assault rifle will be medium

[mystic blade]

Appropriately apt given the current state of the war.

At the time of writing this there are: 3 planets with Terminid Outbreaks (Defense Campaigns), and 3 planets with Automaton Assaults (Defense Campaigns).

The majority of the community is expecting Illuminate Invasions to follow.

[unborn lantern]

I love when missions are just "kill faction"

[unborn lantern]

Just got and used the warp pack. Very fun backpack item 10/10 would blow up myself again

[mystic blade]

A third Major Order has hit Helldivers 2.

[subtle mortar]

There it is

[unborn lantern]

Gonna be some big medal gains if we get all 3

[subtle mortar]

Yesterday I bought the parade warbond almost got the one true flag

[unborn lantern]

So you almost have the best stratagem weapon. So close to perfection

Honestly I'd use it more if it didn't completely blind you when it's on your back. But I guess such power needs a downside

[subtle mortar]

[subtle mortar]

im dripped up

[unborn lantern]

Also was super sad that they fixed being able to use the warp pack to escape the evac

[unborn lantern]

Some people have found jets in our airspace

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/zghx4Z9bU2

Bigger looking than an eagle

[mystic blade]

Devs have already confirmed this has been in the game the whole time and is just an Eagle with a lower poly model when she's flying in the distance.

[unborn lantern]

ah, drat

its always nothing

[mystic blade]

It blew up cuzz of the sloptubers freaking out cuzz like one dumbass spotted it in their discord. It's the same situation as people acting like the Mech corpses that have been on the planets since day one are new and the hulk corpses are a unique automaton we haven't seen yet. All of which is just sloptubers blowing stuff up for clicks.

[unborn lantern]

Going all arc with the shotgun, grenade, backpack and stratagem weapon is shockingly fun

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/J0YgPA-EUe4?si=5OrQmwMweWlQcoRA

[subtle mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220483025448468650/1409796658635739187/xbox-tomorrow-v0-omxn27fv07lf1.webp?ex=68aeaef4&is=68ad5d74&hm=4e489e11ef87452f476ebe811b021a420f535493947f216ed0ab3574a1b905ef&

[subtle mortar]

lmfao

[unborn lantern]

I'm hearing we have bigger flying bugs now ..

[unborn lantern]

And the shotgun and assault rifle seem good thankfully

[unborn lantern]

next warbond announced too

We are getting a incendiary assault rifle, a disposable incendiary cluster bomb rocket and a mini missile silo. We eating good.

We also got the pistol and armor in the superstore if anyone missed and wants them

[trail vigil]

Yoinked that gun asap.

[unborn lantern]

It's really fun, maybe not the best sidearm but it's good

[mystic blade]

@rich idol You know guns. You have any idea what this goofy thing might be based on? I've seen people call it an AK, but I don't know of an AK that has a bolt that is seperate from the ejection port.

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciH6gqEMlKQ

[rich idol]

Looks like the fucked up offspring of an AK or AN and a Hellion bullpup Gas port on that is a part of that front sight, charging handle above the ejection port, but bolt could be lower, to me its bad design cause why have the charging handle and the ejection port on the same side yet seperate. AK's have their ejection port as a part of that assembly in line with bolt, AR and most others have charging handles that connect just above the bolt (Similar to AR-15). Creative design off-child of those is my best guess

[unborn lantern]

It's beautiful what do you mean?

A work of art

[rich idol]

on the realism side, meh. On the creative side, it does look cool and durable. I'd throw down a few mags and give it a good run for its money.

I could pick it apart all the little things but i could be here all day doing that

[mystic blade]

This warbond was made in tandem with another team so my hope is that this isn't some trend where they start making guns with designs that are essentially just greebling. Flip and I were talking about it last night potentially being based on a prototype or some unpopular weapon since the majority of Helldivers' arsenals include weapons that are deeply unpopular IRL. I couldn't find a single instance of another rifle with that exact pattern for the charging handle, and the way the stock comes up all the way up to the rear sight reminded me quite a bit of the SCAR. But the stock itself is very weird cuzz in the full image of the gun the butt of the stock has this connector that calls all the way from the butt to the bottom of the pistol grip like a thumbhole grip big enough to fit your head through.

[unborn lantern]

I'm pretty happy with some of the upcoming stuff.

Like the cluster incendiary expendable rocket? Hell yes dude

[rich idol]

Yeah i couldn't find an exact model, but i could see blends on charging handle/mag/ejection/gas port so it defiantly seems like an influence of those possibly more

[viscid portal]

dont forget we found out its compliant with Super California regulations

[mystic blade]

Oh yeah @rich idol , Vya and Flip found a post that someone said it's an oddly specifically California compliant rifle.

[rich idol]

huh lmao

[unborn lantern]

Thats a plus, right?

We wouldnt want to piss off super california

[viscid portal]

the post in question

[rich idol]

oh my god it is 👀

yeah thats gonna be me tonight

[stable osprey]

man why is this thing 140gb

i was so ready to reinstall until i saw that

[stable osprey]

no one knows how to compress anything anymore 🙁

[stable osprey]

i apologize for valuing my storage space 😛

[mystic blade]

Spends 40 dollars for a game "Never playing that again, it takes up too much space."

[stable osprey]

i mean it wont fit on my ssd right now and im not uninstalling the games im currently playing for it lol

[mystic blade]

But didn't you just say...

[stable osprey]

what, kobold

[stable osprey]

im just saying if it werent 140 gb i would download it because i dont have space for all that

and i dont think the game should be that big to begin with

[unborn lantern]

There's very little excuse for helldiver's being the size it is tbf

I know the technical reason is that there's just a ton of duplicate files all throughout the game files, I guess so it can be accessed easier but there had to be a easier way

Kinda reminds me when I started my programming classes years ago and I didn't know where my file needed to be to be used so I just put it literally everywhere

[tribal marten]

Gotta get a m.2 drive lmao

i also have space issues, only have 2TB of space

Unfortunately i think heavy space usage is the price we pay for some of the better looking stuff nowadays

Obvs not the case for everything but

[unborn lantern]

in helldivers case its just the way they did it tho

[trail vigil]

Man. I wished the company thaat made their engine was still open for business.

[unborn lantern]

Unlocked and been using the halo shotgun today some, its probably my favorite shotgun so far. Does so much damage and feels great to use due to the jacked up ergonomics of this whole warbond

[unborn lantern]

Gloomy time tomorrow

[unborn lantern]

I'm excited to come home and play the new stuff but terrified of the performance issues that apparently cropped up

[serene ruin]

Grinding out Super Creds takes forever but I just came out of a map with 320 Super Creds lmao

I just got incredibly lucky and found three 100 drops in the same map

back to getting like... 30 at a time tho lol

[mystic blade]

Have you been playing the game continously?

[serene ruin]

Back to back level 3 missions on Borea, ye

[mystic blade]

I meant like before you started grinding.

[serene ruin]

Oh, I've played before, but I took a long hiatus because I couldn't get the warbonds I wanted. I just kinda got back into helldivers because of the ODST warbond, got enough to buy that, now I'm grinding for more!

You're welcome to join if you'd like, I could always use some help!

Might give me an excuse to bump the hazard level up

Oh, and double doors, that'd help too

[mystic blade]

Sure, give me a few minutes. Go ahead and do a mission if you'd like in the mean time. Tryna puzzle out tweaks to my Warframe while my brain is workin'. Ironically enough, though, I have the Blink Pack which enables me to go into friendship doors without a second player, but if you want we can really expedite the process with the FRV too.

[serene ruin]

FRV on the icy maps is always a real bastard to drive thooo xD

[mystic blade]

Better than walking sometimes. lol

[serene ruin]

Jump Pack my beloved

[mystic blade]

Here, add my friend code #3151-9632. Flip and I might be able to join your active game.

[serene ruin]

Ah, I just got out of the mission ^^

[mystic blade]

That's fine. Are you still down to play?

[serene ruin]

Yee

[mystic blade]

We'll join your ship. You can do whatever difficulty you want, flip and I are kinda just chillin' right now.

[serene ruin]

That's fair, same here tbh

What difficulty do yall typically play on?

[subtle mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/number-7-neon-gif-7320730406661662962

[serene ruin]

I remember running 8's when I had a group of four, running 7's with a group of two sounds like hell

[mystic blade]

Welp, despite the series of Quickplay Insta-kicks, Quickplay Lobbies full, and the coupla crashes I at least got my Warbond Token and got to see a Hivelord.

For those wondering, Hive Lords and Dragon Roaches can spawn on Difficulty 7 at least.

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar @serene ruin @unborn lantern FYI on hive worlds, since there are no Friendship door vaults, there are these little SEAF encampments that look like the remnants of a last stand that have the loot you'd sometimes find in the vaults. I found Super Credits next to a medal and requisition slips just sitting on the ground when I played for like 4 minutes with Sin. Lol keep an eye out for like any Point of interest.

[serene ruin]

I was too busy fighting for my life to see that, thanks for tellnig me lmao

[unborn lantern]

Yeah I've been having a blast on the hive worlds and seen a few. Loving the new missions even tho they kill me

[unborn lantern]

Can't decide if I hate the burrowers or dragons more. Dragons are fun to shoot though.

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_jGPXqkRy0Y?si=YCwJ-7JRf6xveigJ

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar and I killed a Hivelord with 2 randoms.

[subtle mortar]

💀

[ebon mica]

The fuck do you mean a hive lord

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[stable osprey]

its those giant worm god things from destiny

[viscid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-mod-redditor-text-channels-gif-21711861

[unborn lantern]

Yeah we have big hive bosses now

[unborn lantern]

So is the new assault rifle just overall an upgrade over the lib penetrator?

[mystic blade]

Liberator Penetrator only does 65 damage so yeah.

There's prolly an argument about ergonomics and ammo but from what I've heard it's a laser beam.

[unborn lantern]

I heard it's amazing

Excited to try it

[mystic blade]

I've heard some gripes about the Solo Silo. Longer cool down than eagle using 2 500kgs for the same blast radius and demo force. but reportedly the other stratagems are pretty rock solid.

[unborn lantern]

Isnt the solo silo a support weapon? or am i mistaken

Yes, Yes it is. So nothing stopping you from having one ready to shoot, and either be calling down extra for friends or just calling it down right after shooting one. Slightly different use case so i can still dig it

[ebon mica]

Eagle also always deploys 500kg from behind you when the beacon lands

[trail vigil]

Solo silo one shots factoty striders no matter where it hits. So thaat's good to know.

[unborn lantern]

yeah it has its place. And that place looks cool

[unborn lantern]

The coyote feels great, i cant really find any complaints about it minus it kills most things quick enough that i don't even notice the fire

[mystic blade]

Solo Silo has something like a 3 minute cool down.

Er, I'm sorry, it's a 300 second cool down. Not 3 minute. Cuzz the 500KG is 2 every 240 seconds.

[unborn lantern]

I mean, it doesnt say 300

[mystic blade]

I wish I could fist fight the fuckin' slop tubers.

I was driving around for work and one of their videos autoplayed while I was out for delivery and he was upset because of its long cooldown. That's only a little longer than a Mortar. That actually slaps.

[unborn lantern]

looks like it was alittle higher at first, tbf

All three of the new support weapons from the warbond seem great from what I can see, even the spear gun.

[stable osprey]

What do you mean slop tuber, it literally just sounds like a guy with an opinion lol

[subtle mortar]

Slopinion

https://tenor.com/view/muerto-gif-16250174877271582365

[subtle mortar]

the speargun is so much fun lmao

[unborn lantern]

Can't wait to play with it, saw some lad stopping chargers with it

[mystic blade]

You don't know, do you? There's like a couple of "Helldivers News" channels that just blast anything and everything as "news" when it is a dev saying: "we might do X" for the umpteenth time and then spreading info about said dev saying they might do something as confirmation for all kinds of baseless stuff.

I wasn't attacking him for his opinion on an item in game, I was pointing out he's a slop tuber cuzz of the rest of the content he produces.

[unborn lantern]

I really need to grind some and get this warbond finished theres so many toys in it

[serene ruin]

Okay but should I buy the Dust Devils warbond or Democration Demolition

or whichever one has the funny nuke launcher

[unborn lantern]

The Ultimatum?

Thats servants of freedom. Both are pretty solid ive heard nothing but good things about the seeker grenades and the double edge sickle. I personally like the dust devils stuff more though.

[serene ruin]

I've heard DD is one of those warbonds that're mandatory to have

Then again I've heard that about half of them.

[unborn lantern]

Its probably the best one for effective weapons and tools.

The eruptor and crossbow are both some of the best weapons, the grenade pistol opens up not needing grenades that can close bug holes and factories, and thermite can one shot most heavy armored units

But like if you see stuff you like in other warbonds just get that. None of them are mandatory i'd say

[serene ruin]

Uh

I visited all these diamonds, and picked up all the samples and lil cargo ship things

Is there stuff I'm missing? lol

I thought the diamonds were supposed to roll over to being the regular location mark

[mystic blade]

They have been bugged for a long time. They'resupposed to buy sometimes never do. I think every one of them has a trigger to clear the thingy, but some are weird. Plus some have Samples buried that you have to use the shovel to dig out which I also assume causes it but that's a more recent change.

[serene ruin]

This was a small city on the mapset and it would tell me that I found something despite nothing being there

That, or I would find something, pick up all of my samples and loot, and expect the symbol to roll over to its original diamond shape, as opposed to being a diamond (the sparkly mineral kind), only for it to not do that.

[mystic blade]

Points of interest on Suburban maps that are on the edges of the town walls are entrances and exits that occur during level generation; they're always like holdouts where the SEAF were before they died. Usually ammo and a support weapon or two. The ones inside the walls are where the samples and stuff are.

[serene ruin]

Ah, usually I'll always find one at the corners on the city where it's just a building with a carport on the outside of the wall, but it has a gem marked on top of it like it has loot

But when I loot all around the building, climb on top of the building, or blow up the building and try climbing around the rubble, I don't ever find anything

also

This terminal sunk lol

[unborn lantern]

how has everyone been enjoying the hive worlds?

[serene ruin]

This about summarizes my feelings lol

Also, I wish there were a mod that replaces terminal interactions with DDR floor pads and the player dances to type the code in

[unborn lantern]

Yeah they are very hard compared to normal bug content imo i love it

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar

[unborn lantern]

I find this to be the worst part of the solo silos

[stable osprey]

alright fine i'll reinstall

is the odst stuff still available

[unborn lantern]

yes i think so

its a warbond so its always there

[stable osprey]

i wasnt sure how that worked

[unborn lantern]

Let me know when its finished im always down to dive

the new bug stuff is fun

Also, i got the expendable napalms. Those things slap, so good for waveclear

[stable osprey]

it is done

idk if im gonna play right now or not

might just log in and get all my free shit

i have zero self control and immediately bought the odst warbond

[unborn lantern]

the assault is good and the shotgun is amazing with its extremely high damage. Smg is okay and the pistol exists

its a fun warbond

[stable osprey]

thankfully i had major orders from like a year and a half ago that gave me credits towards it

kinda lame it capped out at 250 though

also kinda lame that every single warbond is a premium warbond :[

[unborn lantern]

yeah no free ones

:[

[stable osprey]

how easy is it to farm super credits

[unborn lantern]

its easy just time consuming. run low level missions and grab all the 10 super credit piles at the poi's

rarely itll give 100

i always end up just whaling out

[stable osprey]

unfortunate

oh wait i just got another 250 medals lol, my entire odst pass is basically done now

[unborn lantern]

i use the shotgun alot

im sure youll like it

[stable osprey]

I'll try it out tomorrow

[viscid portal]

@mystic blade @subtle mortar you two personally after witnessing me many times on accident

[subtle mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-500kg-bomb-helldiver-arrows-russianbadger-gif-13117795248049500981

[serene ruin]

https://youtu.be/1pj4YW0umJ8?si=GCUlHLYVz7db3KtX

[unborn lantern]

Is it really an accident if its many times

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar @molten jacinth I made it boys.

[subtle mortar]

You’re famous

[molten jacinth]

Remember us little people

[mystic blade]

I did, that's why I tagged you. 🥺

[subtle mortar]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

wrong emote

im keeping it

[molten jacinth]

[subtle mortar]

@molten jacinth

[molten jacinth]

God damn it

[unborn lantern]

You made it big

[serene ruin]

I demand front row tickets to your talk show

[unborn lantern]

Yeah when's the podcast

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar I'm getting a little frustrated and at this rate I might start my own YouTube channel just to talk to these Helldivers "news" channels cuzz both of the main ones have misconstrued my point that the Dragonroach is a bad enemy design. They think I'm complaining about the visuals when my point is how its visuals don't play into its mechanics; IE wing destruction doesn't ground it, and bile sac destruction doesn't neuter its ability to breath fire. Or how its stinger is just kinda... There l, like the Dragonroach doesn't have a swoop attack which it very easily could.

[subtle mortar]

Pinhole braincells

[mystic blade]

I feel like I'm getting close. I had people backing me up in Cloud Plays' comments talking about how I wasn't griping with the visuals in that I hate how it looks but I hate how it looks plays nothing into its mechanics.

[unborn lantern]

Yeah it's a good enemy on paper, but it's wings definitely need to have some sort of response to it being shredded

That and the spawn rates

Oh and how it can sometimes have a mid air seizure when hit

[mystic blade]

The spawn rates is the big one I know everyone hates, so I didn't bother to harp on it.

Cuzz Glitch Unlimited focuses too much on that detail when the enemy itself has a broader mechanical issue beyond just its spawn rates.

I love the enemy as a concept, I just hate the way it has been made. It sorely lacks the care and detail every other enemy has in the game in my opinion.

Cuzz the War Strider isn't exactly a fan favorite enemy unit, but at least if you biff a shot you can potentially take out its guns and grenade launchers. (I do think its armaments should be lower armor value to increase the reasoning behind destroying them rather than trying to take out the pelvis joints, also the Exhaust on the butt of the pelvis like all other automaton vehicles should have a lower armor value than the main body).

If you biff a shot on the Dragonroach right now you just end up spreading the damage out and make it take longer to kill and it still remains a fully ready to go threat. Even the leviathan loses combat effectiveness the more damage it takes.

[unborn lantern]

Tho apparently a single eat can one shot It with a headshot

Not that I've ever landed a headshot with it's movement

Would be nice if it lost some speed or something as it's wings got shredded

[subtle mortar]

ive one shot it with the expendable napalm but its not consistent in the slightest

[unborn lantern]

Yeah the napalms are really good for it, same with speargun

[subtle mortar]

and after all that

another shows up

[unborn lantern]

Will say though I wasn't expecting the speargun to be my favorite of the three support weapons we got

Probably because the solo silo is seen by enemies as a turret so it's sought out and destroyed every time

Otherwise that'd probably be my favorite

[subtle mortar]

things to pass the time on a defence mission

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar @rich idol @unborn lantern "Pull..."

[subtle mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-silver-case-gun-kusabi-kusabi-gun-kusabi-tetsugoro-gif-14626553510279227733

[unborn lantern]

Saw this and thought it was funny

[ebon mica]

@mystic blade I met the dragonroach last night

Why did 3 spawn in quick succession

Atleast we can out run a bile titan

In stealth armor

[unborn lantern]

Tbh the only easy ways to kill them quick has been railcannon, expendable incendiary launcher, and the anti tank emplacement

[mystic blade]

Wrong, Spear and Wasp exist.

That being said.

[unborn lantern]

I don't use either of those weapons, minus the spear

[mystic blade]

The Dragonroach's design as an enemy is obviously rushed to me at this point.

[unborn lantern]

And like, I enjoy melee as much as the next guy but I don't think I'm hitting it

Actually that's a lie I enjoy melee more than the next guy

[mystic blade]

1. Despite it being an aerial unit like Shriekers, Gunships, or Dropships; It doesn't fall out of the air either dead or just grounded when its wings are shredded.
2. Despite its design being based on the bile titan, destroying its bile sacs does not neuter its breath attack.
3. Despite having a massive wasp-like stinger on its thorax it never uses it.
4. Its fire breath attack has Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree syndrome and is roughly double the size of the actual visual.
5. The damage of its attack starts before the attack does which makes it even more difficult to dodge.
6. It's on a spawn timer and knows where you are at all times, meaning you cannot stealth a mission with Dragonroaches in it. As an aside, the devs cannot use the excuse that the Dragonroach is like a Leviathan or Hivelord where you "don't have to fight them" as the Dragonroach will hover right over your head or strafing run you while you try to get away.

TL;DR Dragonroach looks cool, but mechanically is the worst enemy design in the whole game.

[unborn lantern]

They should just make it so it's slower as it gets more wings shredded, that way it's not all or nothing for it's wings

[mystic blade]

No, that's not good enough. I am not giving them slack on the Dragonroach.

[unborn lantern]

And yeah the shadow range of it's breath is extremely noticable when you try to use a warp pack to dodge

Oh I'm not saying that's all they need to do

[mystic blade]

It needs to die, or get grounded. Getting "slowed down" would be the laziest fuckin' cop out from a dev team that prides themselves and their game on the minute details. And a flying enemy dieing or being grounded from shredded wings isn't even a minute detail.

[unborn lantern]

Oh I meant slowed as it gets damaged, not slowed for shredded wings

So like slowed as wings get damaged, then grounded or crashed when it's fully shredded enough

[mystic blade]

Look, all I'm saying is; this new Strategic Oppurtunity being misconstrued for new stratagems shows what the Helldivers 2 community wants and it's honestly kind of baffling the devs have seemingly moved completely away from the base game progression system. There hasn't been new Ship Modules in over a year. There hasn't been a new offensive stratagem since September last year.

[unborn lantern]

All in a days work

I find it silly that arc stuff gives you over 100% accuracy

[quiet echo]

I have to assume the formula assumes 1 shot:[0 or 1] hit for determining accuracy. So, like, killing three guys with an arc weapon is gonna push it over 100 because that’s what it looks like in the game’s eyes

It’d be a) not in character for Arrowhead to fix that and b) likely be hard to even rectify

[subtle mortar]

i think its chill

[unborn lantern]

its silly but that doesnt mean it needs to be fixed, its fine as is

[quiet echo]

Agreed

[mystic blade]

It works kinda like that way in Darktide. There's a challenge to finish a mission with no ammo but 90% accurasucy. The shotguns kinda cheat cuzz they have punch through and only a single pellet has to hit for it to count for accuracy.

That being said, as someone who uses shotguns in Helldivers, I know that shotguns probably don't work that way cuzz my accuracy is always kinda middle range even if I hit everything consistently.

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKsXez0UCjU&t=392s

[mystic blade]

https://youtu.be/LGdaMKvafjk?si=auPDhyJAoQFALSvl

[unborn lantern]

Some people are really not happy with all the bot preformance issues

For me it just gives me another excuse to be a bugdiver

[mystic blade]

I dunno, I like being able to play the game wherever and not have to debate whether or not my PC can handle following the Major Order around.

[serene ruin]

The file size is def starting to take its toll on my loading times tho

[unborn lantern]

as someone with a decently beefy computer setup, its not your pc. It just has issues that are causing performance issues regardless of hardware

[mystic blade]

I'm aware. It's a broad issue, that apparently seems to not affect play station players as much.

[mystic blade]

Yeah, I dunno, I was talking to Flip about it the other day and it's like... They need to focus on the core issues with the game before new content but we're not sure how much Sony/PlayStation is actually kneecapping their ability to do that.

[serene ruin]

It's not unrealistic for there to be different versions of a game

There's plenty of games where the console port is fundamentally different than the PC port

Or at least with different specific patches for the respective ports

[subtle mortar]

its more about content

that cant be different for a game like helldivers wheneveryone is doing the same content

so if they stop updating pc with new content everyone needs to stop getting new content

[stable osprey]

Yeah crossplay in every game kinda killed the ability to keep content separate from different platforms

[jagged olive]

https://preview.redd.it/shitty-meme-i-made-after-finishing-my-adam-smasher-atlas-v0-si8279ut8s7e1.png?width=1200&auto=webp&s=163c880f0ebfc93638c53002b92cc8c00266c8c5

[mystic blade]

I was more referring to Sony/PlayStation the company pushing Arrowhead to make more content for the game over mending the games issues.

[serene ruin]

Understandable, however I'm not saying to switch up the content, I'm saying more so that patches can be different for each platform

[serene ruin]

And I agree, they should prioritize a lot of the bugs, especially the one where I can't steer my hellpod

I can't tell you the amount of times it sent me into water or got me stuck in a piece of pre-existing geometry

[subtle mortar]

thats probably never gonna get fixed cause its not a bug to them

[serene ruin]

Welp

[subtle mortar]

its something they implemented to stop people landing on high ground

[unborn lantern]

Sounds like they fixed a non-issue and made the game a little worse in exchange for that one honestly

Who cares if you land on high ground and have to fall to your death to get down

[mystic blade]

I think the "problem" is you don't if you have any of the lift packs. But honestly that level of planning should be rewarded not punished. Plus being able to achieve safe high ground would let long range players have some sort of ground to stand on to actually do long range stuff. Additionally it could give them reason to include enemies that are equally long range too. IE the invisible illuminate snipers from Helldivers 1.

[unborn lantern]

I think if you land on high ground without a lift pack that's just the helldiver's life expectancy special

Shouldn't be something they work to prevent

[mystic blade]

Exactly.

[serene ruin]

I have no clue how you're supposed to do any of the heavy infestation mapsets on Illuminate planets solo

You can't: bring turrets because they'll get swarmed by squids and broken by the giant fleshmobs, rely on your orbitals because they're way too slow to take out the outpost ships by yourself without having to wait around and get swarmed (plus the buildings surrounding them seem to block half the shots so they're much less effective, shoot the squid swarms because there's way too many so you (more often than not) are out of ammo...

Only solution to this I see is maybe bringing arc weapons that don't rely on ammo but they don't seem to be effective against the full on squid troops so I'm at an impasse

Resupply's are great but you run out of ammo so often that I just end up camping them

Gonna try the guard dog and maybe the flamethrower, see if thatll work out

[serene ruin]

Guard Dog might be the go-to for crowd control but I still don't see what's so good about the Flamethrower

It does fairly decent against the fleshmobs but the squids kinda just walk through the flames about half the time

[ebon mica]

Flamethower you aim at the ground to create a wall

Rather than douse the target

[serene ruin]

Ah, really? That's kind of weird.

[ebon mica]

Yeah you douse large targets due to surface area

But against a crowd of like voteless you spray the ground while retreating

The fire on the ground persist for like 10 seconds and anything walking through it catches fire

[serene ruin]

Even still, I find they just waltz through the flames right up to me and they just end up setting me on fire

Also the SEAF troops don't have a survival instinct so they also walk through the fire which causes me to lose req. which I also don't appreciate

[mystic blade]

I really do not like how Illuminate spawn near you in reinforcement waves even without calling reinforcements.

Also Fleshmobs and Overseers have too much HP.

[serene ruin]

I mean, a Fleshmob can tank all the rockets from a Commando and end up unscathed, I feel that's ridiculous

Also had a difficulty 4 map where they spawned 4 Fleshmobs on me in an alleyway

I literally could not deal with them lol

[subtle mortar]

Fleshmob has 6000 HP while a Bile Titan with reasonable weak spots has 6500

So yeah it’s ridiculous

And they spawn from level 1

I believe flesh mobs don’t really have any weak spots

It’s just kind of a DPS check

[serene ruin]

The only semi-weak spot I can figure out on them is the glowing blue eyes

You can shoot a hole through the top cluster of eyes and the bottom cluster of eyes

After that they kinda fall over but I can only reasonable do that with something that has a lot of firepower

I've done it with the Lib Pen and like 3 or 4 mags

Fire kinda melts them but it makes them charge a lot, so you do have to keep running from them which is an issue

Cuz you have a faster-than-you big ass meatball on your tail for as long as you can run

Had good results with the HMG

(not the emplacement)

[mystic blade]

https://fxtwitter.com/MechapenMk2/status/1970490499934101852

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[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar If the current state of the game is Shams' definition of fantasy I am really worried.

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar thank fuck

[serene ruin]

I just learned the trick to farming super creds where you run a level with a lot of super cred drops then close the game without extracting

I wish I knew that for the map where I found 200 >.>

[serene ruin]

Wherever I go for recommendations for weapons, I never see anyone talking about the JAR-5 Dominator

Is it really that ass?

[mystic blade]

No, it's just that the Eruptor exists.

[serene ruin]

Ah, so it's a subpar alternative to the Eruptor lol

[mystic blade]

Helldivers 2 isn't Warframe where you can make two identical weapons that the key differences is when you aqcuire them and one might be Status Chance based and another Crit Chance based or all elemental damage or mixed elemental physical damage or all physical damage...

Helldivers 2 is a game where if you make a gun that shoots explosive bullets, if one of them shoots better explosive bullets then it is just the superior weapon.

[serene ruin]

Also I farmed out my super creds and got Democratic Demo, I'm prolly gonna go for whichever one has the Warp Pack next

Or the Coyote

Dunno if they nerfed that yet

[mystic blade]

The dominator also has an arming distance for its rounds for the gyro jets to activate which means its rounds accelerate weirdly and its ergonomics I think are close to as bad as the Eruptor's but the Eruptor has the audacity to be nearly hit scan with its bullet velocity and low drag meaning the bullets maintain efficacy longer.

[serene ruin]

Honestly torn between the Warp Pack, the Coyote, or the funny nuke gun

[mystic blade]

They said they're not going to nerf it.

[serene ruin]

Ah I see

[serene ruin]

Really?? That's a first

[mystic blade]

Cuzz there was an immense amount of outcry about it currently being the only Assault Rifle that feels genuinely useful. Shams Jorjani themself said they aren't gonna nerf it after poking fun at the Reddit community saying: "We're not having TOO MUCH fun are we?" in regards to it; later clarifying they aren't going to nerf it but they were looking for feedback. Which any meaningful feedback about the Coyote is likely going to be used to improve other ARs, but we can only really hope since their big patch they're doing in October is principally about bug fixing and enemy improvements/tweaks. Supposedly.

[mystic blade]

It's not bad, and it was popular but it was largely entirely meme'd out of the horse race when they dropped The Eruptor. Which as I've said since it came out: The Eruptor was a mistake. They should have never made a gun that strong as a Primary, but tragically the toothpaste is out of the tube now and you can't exactly put it back without pissing off a not so small annoying group of players.

Said group of players already tweaked the fuck out when the devs fixed the infinite damage bug on the Eruptor.

They still call the shrapnel mechanic fix a nerf. Which annoys the fuck out of me.

[serene ruin]

The bug I'm ready for them to fix is invisible landmines on bot planets lol

It's too realistic, they're like actual landmines that you can't see xD

[mystic blade]

I've never actually seen that bug, and that's saying something cuzz I shoot every landmine I see so other people don't step on them in the off chance they're forced to retreat through that area.

[serene ruin]

I've encountered it a LOT during my cred grinding

That and terminals being sunk into the floor so you can't interact with them thereby softlocking your mission

[serene ruin]

I just completed a Helldive difficulty mission solo after my internet ate shit causing me to lose my other 3 on my team

Holy shit...

I now have Super Helldive unlocked, no way in hell I'm soloing that xD

[mystic blade]

I really wish, much like my desire for a cape reward for the first time you kill a Hivelord: I want a 1 time reward for completing a Super Helldive and extracting with the faction based macguffin.

I really think they should have dropped the Bot-Smasher and Bug-Stomper Liberators that are in the files (data-miners found them, likely cut content) as the first time rewards for those.

[serene ruin]

I'd wholeheartedly appreciate some armor rewards or cape rewards, yea

Like acid resistant armor for Super Helldive on Bugs, maybe heat/laser resistant armor for Bots, and arc resistant armor for Squids

Then again, I think we already have armors in the Superstore that do something to at effect, if not way better

I'd just appreciate armor with like... a bug/bot/squid skull on your pauldrons like a decoration

Or maybe a funny bug hat

[serene ruin]

Been appreciating the Machine Gun Turret lately.

You got one per minute, its great

[mystic blade]

https://sites.google.com/view/roy-sheets-unofficial/home @subtle mortar @viscid portal @serene ruin @unborn lantern

[viscid portal]

if only flip could read

[mystic blade]

This guy make unofficial armor layouts for enemy units in Helldivers. I've shared him before but-

[mystic blade]

It's a good thing it's like 50% pictures.

[viscid portal]

true but he might assume the colors the wrong way

that green means good

[mystic blade]

Ironically the colors don't mean anything beyond showing separation of the individually targetable pieces of enemy units.

Looking at this is depressing. It's all Armor 4 or higher.

[viscid portal]

its ok its easy to take out

just one hit and then its gone except when you get knocked over by a stupid grenade

[mystic blade]

@rich idol can you pin this?

[viscid portal]

and then someones stupid dog

wipes you out

[mystic blade]

Counterpoint. Look at the armor values on the Hulk and compare them to the War Strider; then factor in the fact that War Striders in most seeds replace Hulks 1 to 1. The War Strider's total health and threat level is well above a Hulk's. Additionally, the War Strider is a disgusting departure from Automaton design philosphy which is rewarding accurate shots on repeating patterns. The glowy red lights on a War Strider mean nothing but are the weak spots on everything from Troopers to Factory Striders.

It's also kind of absurd that The War Strider does not have a leg damaged state but the Hulk does.

[viscid portal]

You see I just do not acknowledge the existence of war striders

Theyre not real

They can't hurt me

[mystic blade]

I wish they weren't.

[serene ruin]

Hoo boy, that is a great repository of knowledge you have gifted me, thank you for that

The fleshmob graph is also very upsetting

No armor so basically any bullets work, but 6000HP on top of 400 for each of the 8 breakable flesh patches

[serene ruin]

Though you can see the ideal spot to aim (if you're somehow close to it) is the bellcranks that connect the legs to the chassis

[subtle mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204848159088709652/1422643255249731797/copy_430D37BF-CFF4-4958-B663-9910466119B4.gif

[ebon mica]

Scorcher takes them out easy cause of its splash

[serene ruin]

Yea but I find it doesn't help with the mobs of the Voteless as much as I'd like it to

Which is ironic because the Fleshmob is literally made of Voteless

[mystic blade]

No, that's what Vya is talking about, and said Bellcranks are the issue cuzz those aren't realistic to hit from any distance greater than 20 meters. To make matters worse they're still fuckin' Armor 4 which means you need anti-tank unlike Hulks which can be defeated with clever stratagem/weapon use. Not just "Bring RR and Thermite to every mission!" Cuzz that's fuckin' bad when 1 enemy unit defines an ENTIRE FACTIONS STRATAGEM META.

[serene ruin]

Ah. I didn't see that

[mystic blade]

Again, let me reiterate, the issue with the War Strider is hardly it's combat mechanics or design, but it's Health and Armor mechanics depart from every known lesson the Automatons mechanics teach you. They literally made War Striders harder to beat hulks because of Glazedivers who have put down the Eruptor, Recoilless Rifle, and Thermite since they picked them up.

[ebon mica]

True, i use the AF version of it and it helps against squid commanders cause of their armor

[unborn lantern]

i might be the minority but i like shooting all the heads off its a satisfying bullet sponge to me

[serene ruin]

I took like it but when there's 3 or 4 of them on me, I begin not to like it lmao

[serene ruin]

AF?

[ebon mica]

AR i mean

[serene ruin]

Oh, the Coyote??

[mystic blade]

I don't know why this isn't baked into the mechanics of Fleshmobs. They should enter a bleedout state when a head is destroyed and for each additional destroyed it should snowball. With as many Fleshmobs as the game spawns it's not super engaging to spend half of a fire fight trying to cut down one or two Fleshmobs when the real threats are supposed to be the Harvesters and Overseers.

[mystic blade]

Khayden is talking about the Primary Rapid Fire Plasma Rifle. Not the Primary Flamethrower.

[unborn lantern]

I havent squid dived in awhile but i imagine the coyote is peak for them

[mystic blade]

That's why they're talking about Splash Damage cuzz all plasma weapons are technically explosive (without demo force) which I still think is such a bloody damn arbitrary design decision. "As long as a Factory is still moving, the Epoch will kill it, but the second it stops moving and becomes a building I guess we're shit out of luck."

[unborn lantern]

Plasma in general is super weird in helldivers

they say it has no physical projectile, thus no demo force, but it still has mass and even more bullet drop than grenade launchers.

Laser apparently does though? judging from the quasar so laser does has a physical component and demo force? and no drop?

idk they did plasma dirty

I love the epoch though it does quite a bit of damage with a ton of ammo and no backpack, can kill alot of heavy/tank armored guys without a resupply. But it does have every single downside a support weapon could have

Epoch has become my go to support weapon tbh. Its amazing as long as you can get the hang of the timing of the shooting. I don't usually kill myself at all in missions with it but it sometimes happens

[mystic blade]

Honestly it's all arbitrary. Like, even ignoring the devs: "well, plasma in our setting doesn't have mass" neither do photons, motherfucker, but the Quasar still has demo-force and at what point is demo-force distinguishable separate from damage in a way that makes sense. I refuse to believe something that counts as HEAT can't for some reason break a couple of fuckin' rocks to collapse a bug hole or blow a hole in the wall of a factory to destroy it. The worst sin is how the Epoch can destroy Warp Ships when they're flying but not when they land.

[serene ruin]

Ooh, the Double Edge Sickle?

[mystic blade]

No, it's a Plasma rifle called the Plas-1 Scorcher.

The Double Edge Sickle is a Laser Rifle.

[serene ruin]

Ah right, forgot there was a difference.

[serene ruin]

Ye that one

I remember liking how well it took care of the Overseers

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar

[unborn lantern]

also i got the flame warbond after that mission with free medals

flame pistol here we come

[subtle mortar]

its FIRE

ha

[mystic blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103229065395191849/1398691415793602611/helldivers_open_season_meme.gif

[serene ruin]

Okay, so what I found out is that the Airburst Rocket Launcher is insanely good at taking out Fleshmobs

However, you kinda need to get the drop on the beforehand otherwise they'll just kinda charge you and then you can't shoot them without blowing yourself up

Also kinda hard to control if they're in an alleyway.

But I took out two Fleshmobs in a patrol with a bunch of heavy Voteless

Other than that I haven't seen a better use for it...

[unborn lantern]

Airbursts are unparalleled in killing your whole team if thats a niche you need filled

[serene ruin]

Yea, that's why I hate it lmao

I was suffering with the Illuminate stuff the other week

[mystic blade]

Holy fucking shit. Lmao

[stable osprey]

love the nod to halo lol

[serene ruin]

Ya boi unlocked the Control Group and Democratic Detonation warbonds

Been on that phuckin grind

[unborn lantern]

YES DUDE enemies will no longer target the solo silos and the pineapple grenade got a buff.

I can finally run the solo silo like it's an actual support weapon and not just a meme

[subtle mortar]

the new patch seems good

like really good

or atleast a good step in the right direction

[ebon mica]

Not really a complaint but did they fix buggies blowing up if you land it slightly on the wrong side

Humvees made of paper mache when you land on anything that isnt its wheels

[subtle mortar]

dont think so but a ton of weapons got buffs and enemies that didnt have weakspots now do

[ebon mica]

Are the squid captains any easier to kill

[subtle mortar]

yurp

assuming i know which ones youre talking about

[ebon mica]

Cause it feels like the purifier was really the only way to kill them

Cause they wore ablative armor

[subtle mortar]

overseers now have 200 less health

if they keep up this kind of update in the future ill be very happy

[unborn lantern]

I heard the smgs got hit pretty hard

And fire again for some rasin

Apparently smgs have more damage but like 2x the damage falloff

[subtle mortar]

this does make them have more of a niche

im just happy Dragons die when wings are gone now

[unborn lantern]

It really depends on the falloff

[serene ruin]

Does anyone have the patch notes for the stuff they changed? If they edited the enemy armor effectiveness?

Cuz I can effectively one shot Bulk's with the Quasar, where before it was a 2 shot if not 3 shot a lot of the time.

[unborn lantern]

I don't but i could probably find it

also

pineapple grenade is amazing feeling now, still not the best but much more fun than before

Solo silo seems to have demo force now, and it not being targeting has been great

[unborn lantern]

https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/23133013749276--Into-the-Unjust-4-1-0

[serene ruin]

Ty ty

[unborn lantern]

this is why the pineapple grenade feels better ig

[serene ruin]

Somethin ain't right here

40 minute mission

Elapsed Time little over an hour

[rich idol]

I heard a while ago there was a bug with elapsed time on surface, however that was a few months ago, don't know if they fixed it or not

[serene ruin]

This keeps happening

[ebon mica]

Just get on board

[serene ruin]

I had it land and get stuck on top of one of those big spires lol

[ebon mica]

What is this lads

[jagged olive]

looks like a hive lord

[serene ruin]

What a box of fruit gushers sees moments after it's in you hands

[serene ruin]

Just had a run in with two griefers on Oshaune, two dudes would keep spawning into my missions and kept teamkilling until we ran out of reinforcements.

All while there was a Hive Lord

Hive Lord and 2 dickheads, like 4 maps in a row.

I'd kick them and they'd rejoin

[unborn lantern]

if you are on steam, blocking them prevents matchmaking in most games
even worked for dark souls 3

[mystic blade]

I'm pretty sure you can block in Helldivers.

[mystic blade]

Oh my god they did the Bush "Mission Accomplished" meme. Holy fuck.

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nsQJiJty9yM @subtle mortar @unborn lantern @rich idol @serene ruin

[serene ruin]

Had it happen to me before, it often lets you steer a hellpod waaaaay away from where it was called lol

[mystic blade]

The speed would cause the Hellpod to not embed in the ground and it would be so unbelievably funny if that was like an easter egg where it just fuckin' rolls around and your helldiver has to crawl out when it stops rolling.

if they aren't, y'know, a pile of fuckin' meat in the hellpod by that point.

[serene ruin]

I mean if "slip resistant shoes" are an add-on you can choose to bring to help with terrain, I don't think they put shock absorbers in lmao

[mystic blade]

God I wish that's what the Polar Patriots armor actually did.

[serene ruin]

Yeeeeee

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uhNGsU8HM5A @serene ruin you might like this one

[serene ruin]

P a i n

[mystic blade]

They're doing it again. And they're once again gonna fail to see why the Oshaune one failed.

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar @serene ruin @unborn lantern

[unborn lantern]

Hell yea

I havent dived in awhile

[serene ruin]

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[stable osprey]

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[mystic blade]

Troooo

[serene ruin]

wha

[mystic blade]

Interesting... So the Redacted Regiment is being held to their chest.

[unborn lantern]

Hell yes minigun time

[mystic blade]

NGL as cool as this is I am worried that the past few months have all been a plot to backlog content.

Cuzz the Redacted Regiment warbond is finished like all of its content is in the game and good to go already but they haven't released it.

[trail vigil]

Well im guessing they are genuinely worried about the backlash they got about the performance. Even if they had to delay content for it the time spent working on the game will only benefit everyone in the long run.

Plus ya know. Don't want them overworking too so I hope they do have some backlog so they can take health breaks from working on the game.

[serene ruin]

Is that an assault rifle with an underbarrel grenade launcher primary?

[unborn lantern]

The flame drone will be fun i imagine too

[serene ruin]

Can't wait for the friendly fire incidents between me and my own drone

[mystic blade]

I mean, I would agree with this if their attempts at fixing performance weren't bubble gum patches for actual game breaking bugs they should have worked on over 4 months ago. The Automaton front was unplayable for most people for 4 months because of the crashing to desktop bugs caused by audio. I'm not saying they're fabricating issues for the sake of buying time but Pilestedt admitted to the fact that they are aware of the "We're so back, and it's so over" memes that I would be surprised if they're leaning into it.

[mystic blade]

As for Overworking, I'm pretty sure they already are. Then again, with the state of the game compounded with staff head count tripling I don't know how they'd even be at Rick of overworking.

[trail vigil]

mhm mhm. They were definately riding that success high for so long I wouldn't be surprised they realized late they needed to pause content for the sake of stability. But I still take it to heart that this game engine is fucking them more than any other company normally would have in terms of their tech debt. I respect them for keeping the "older" console generation in mind for these updates, even if eventually they'll have to bite that bullet in the future.
But yes, their QA needs a little more love as well. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[mystic blade]

It doesn't. Xbox and PlayStation are only latest generation. It's literally for an estimated 12% of PC gamers only that the game runs on HDD.

[mystic blade]

Back to the Warbond stuff, the Helldivers getting their own unique kind of chainsaw melee weapon tells me we likely won't be getting Warhammer or Gears of War crossovers.

[trail vigil]

Aah totaally though the was on the ps4 ffor some reason. Dont mind me.

[mystic blade]

Nah, it's cool, but it's that reason that perplexes me so bad. If they were planning to only launch it on PlayStation then expanded back to PC or were planning a PC and PlayStation launch from the start it doesn't make sense why the game was built to run on SSD and then they retrofitted it for HDD for a growingly niche sub-community especially with the advent of Xbox Divers and expanded prevalence of SSD being essentially a modern demand for gaming.

[mystic blade]

Yes. It fires its own bespoke High Explosive Grenades (which is kinda non-informative on the grenade cuzz all enemy grenades are considered "High Explosive" or "HE", but enemy HE have different stats from each other and both have different stats than the Helldivers HE grenade).

[serene ruin]

I wonder if it really is an assault rifle/grenade launcher combo, how would it be able to fire two differing ammo types on the same weapon.

I understand there's the "select-fire" thing like the airburst having Flak and Cluster, but those share an ammo pool. I wonder if this would be the same case for an underbarrel launcher that differs from the default rounds of an assault rifle

Could borrow from your grenade pool, that'd be neat

[mystic blade]

Hm... I would imagine it would be? They said the Minigun required technology in the games mechanics they didn't have and that's why we didn't have one sooner. So what that tells me is that the Chainsaw and Rifle with a Grenade Launcher underbarrel is them pushing their tech.

[mystic blade]

I wish, but Grenades you shoot are constructed differently from grenades you throw. Grenades you shoot are more like a bullet than the ones you carry to throw around yourself. They also describe the grenades as specifically high explosive (which if they are, the good news is that Helldiver HE grenades are AP 3), but the grenades for the gun themselves are likely bespoke. The downside is that theory makes sense cuzz it will allow them to release future rifle or weapons that have an under barrel grenade launcher that shoot different grenades.

All this being said, this warbond is very clearly a continuation of Viper Commandos (Pythons being another type of Snake) so it's good to know at least they aren't worried about revisiting concepts.

[serene ruin]

Or other underbarrel attachments aside from grip, flashlight, or laser

[mystic blade]

I would hope that they're doing this specifically because the attachment tech is very limited, but I know it's more likely so they can sell us a Pacifier down the line with Stun Grenades, or a Coyote with a Napalm Grenade Launcher.

Which is sad, however, up until this point we've had nothing exactly like this. The Halt shotgun has two separate ammo pulls and only pulls from one depending on which fire mode you're in, this gun shows that they're developing Combination Weapon technology at least which might mean we can see some Warhammer 40k style of silly stuff like a Rifle with an Underbarrel Plasma pistol or something of that nature.

[mystic blade]

Uh oh. The bot is breaking (breaking in narrative).

[serene ruin]

Is this like... a teaser for the next update or

[mystic blade]

I do not know.

I got one today that was a prompt to be considered "re-educated".

[serene ruin]

Not sure what the whole "dissidents" business is about

[mystic blade]

There's a storyline going on right now about dissident counts are on the rise.

[serene ruin]

Aaaah

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-XxSD20EZWQ?si=u0Y_I0XvjsGQPxYp

@subtle mortar @unborn lantern @serene ruin

[subtle mortar]

Interdasting

[mystic blade]

Patch looks pretty unremarkable balance wise. Nothing stated that radically changes anything, gun buffs I don't think will make a noticeable difference; they're like For Honor changes where they're essentially tweaking them to where they'll take one less bullet to kill some things cuzz these values are really shallow when a Warrior's (for example) main body has 325 HP, the SMG-37 damage tweak will make it take one less bullet to kill.

Example:
Old value: 325 - 100 = 225 | 225 - 100 = 125 | 125 - 100 = 25 | 25 - 100 = DEAD BUG (Takes 4 bullets in effective range to kill.)
New Value: 325 - 110 = 215 | 215 - 110 = 105 | 105 - 110 = DEAD BUG (Takes 3 bullets in effective range to kill.)

These are buffs, but I don't think the average player will notice (nor will a veteran in deep combat really notice either) and tragically they still haven't reverted the ergonomics penalties that SMGs and Pistols get when you first pull them out and when you stop sprinting that causes them to sway like crazy when you ADS for a few seconds like they're a long rifle (Assault Rifles and Shotguns do not have this penalty, but DMRs and weapons like the Railgun and AMR have increased sway penalties after equipping or ending sprint). My worry is that they forgot.

[trail vigil]

Oh shit. The new beta branch for the game reduces the game files from 154 gigs to just under 24 gigs.

[serene ruin]

Man, I'm torn between getting Dust Devils and the new warbond

[stable osprey]

Actually fucking insane, I didn't know devs were capable of file compression anymore

[subtle mortar]

its not even just compression apparently alot of it was duplicate files

[quiet echo]

Ya, to my understanding there was a bullheaded devotion to customers with "lower end hardware" such as older HDDs among the devs (or by corporate mandate, likely) The duplication makes it easier for those machines to fetch the game assets they need at any given time and decreases load times...
Load times. That was literally it. Something that 80%+ of players don't care about because we live in the space year 2025 and SSDs are commonplace

The excuse barely makes sense even though it was one they made themselves, given the game is broken in whichever way with or without loadtimes and takes up so much space.

Though I'm not as tuned into the community happenings as some others are so take what I say with a grain of salt

[stable osprey]

Actually insane justification

[mystic blade]

It might have been their (Arrowhead's) own insistence cuzz they partnered with Sony and the game was originally going to be a PS5 exclusive which is an SSD console. They expanded to PC with permission from Sony during development which is likely when they decided to build an HDD build of the game; they estimated only 12% if the PC playerbase were actually playing on an HDD still, so they rebuilt on PC for an incredibly niche group.

[serene ruin]

I decided on getting Dust Devils cuz I really remember enjoying the Speargun

[unborn lantern]

The spear gun is peak. Combined with the incendiary grenades it does so much damage

[serene ruin]

Newest AR is light armor pen but it does have a grenade launcher to get around the medium armor rating, so

[trail vigil]

Through their own studies they found that 11% of thr player base plays the game with HHD. And should they implement this change, which is what they have planned for the year. It'll at worse increase the load times for those hhd people by about 5 seconds.

You could read up the blog post about it but im on mobile currently.

[mystic blade]

Y'know, it's fascinating. It kinda reveals Destiny 2's problem without directly calling it out. Explains why D2's file size kept going up and up. They were trying to maintain support for HDD players; prolly more specifically old console players.

[trail vigil]

I mean you could see what warfare did in their dealings with file size as well for another angle if you'd like. They had to pick and choose what they can pick to stay vs to get rid off.

[mystic blade]

@subtle mortar @serene ruin @unborn lantern Looks like they're wrapping the Illuminate around into the Automatons and Terminids to make people stop thinking they're gonna do a 4th faction anytime soon.

[serene ruin]

Bugs are lookin preeeeetty wide rn

[unborn lantern]

I have heard the mini gun is kinda mid, this true?

[subtle mortar]

90% of offensive stuff in this game is kinda mid still unfortunately

what matters is if you find it cool enough to use

[unborn lantern]

Well this is making me want to get the new warbond

[unborn lantern]

Apparently Rock steady on the armor let's you tank missiles with the riot shield and energy shield without ragdolling, must buy now

[ebon mica]

I like the "you did?' At the end lmao

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BXIwimo5qWs

[mystic blade]

They finally did the thing I said they shoulda done months ago, just weird it's still 7 days out, though.

[serene ruin]

Wonder what they're doing for Chrimbus/ New Years

[mystic blade]

I think this is what they're doing honestly.

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iqBLGpRY804?si=JeQMUQJqpyfpFK9a

[serene ruin]

ohhh shitttt, if you logged in during the original killzone event and got the free armor/sniper, you AUTOMATICALLY have the killzone warbond unlocked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZt4-LTtHw

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PI4Nn1GCDiQ?si=MHgCCp1yxD94zJyz

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/09HXPnaHPoM

[unborn lantern]

looks like we are getting more silenced weapons with the new warbond

because we all loved suppressors the last time weapons had them

[serene ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvwvsJRSKk

[mystic blade]

Let's see if they actually make the suppressors work since the ODST one doesn't.

[unborn lantern]

we shall see. the c4 and the pistol look fun tho, even if the primaries end up falling flat

[serene ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/07TFPlUneXs?si=Ds3WOFnqhyQPIFvm

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qR9lFa1bzF8

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Y6eKv0xwORo?si=vqUDCsqdY-HPv9rm

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JyugQA1Y8oE?si=aex6_O3BjM2vR9Dg

[serene ruin]

https://youtu.be/FHGIRTyr9XE?si=WxHEZJhcyQG3wjjX

WE JUST GOT TANKS, WE HEADED TO CYBERSTAN WITH THIS ONE LADS

[unborn lantern]

huge

[trail vigil]

Tank is quite fun. Definitely a 2 person minimum to even remotely be viable.

[unborn lantern]

it being fun is all that really matters for a tank imo

[ebon mica]

How does it fare against like

Trash enemies like voteless mobs

I imagine you can squish hordes of them

[unborn lantern]

I just hope its a little tanky

[ebon mica]

The rover can explode just by landing just slightly off center

[ebon mica]

3 Armor

[trail vigil]

Its pretty tanky. It does take quite a lot of hits and the updated enemies do try and focus down the vehicles. Luckily the tank has a HMG as a side weapon apart from the main cannon.

[ebon mica]

My main take away from reading the wiki page is that why does it have 3 armor hardness

[serene ruin]

The tank doesn't have a 360 aim unfortunately, it can only hit stuff in a small cone in front of it; which is a massive downside if you're surrounded ig but... just don't do that lol

[ebon mica]

Thats the same as the exosuits

[serene ruin]

Super Earth metals only do so much ig? Ministry of Science needs to research some new smelting methods or some shit ig

[ebon mica]

Like the Automaton tanks main body is 5 Hardness

[serene ruin]

Yea exactly

[mystic blade]

I think it's because enemy weapons only go up to AP3

Helldivers are AV0, and the only other things are Exos and FRVs are a mix of AV1 and AV2, and SEAF soldiers have AV1 chest pieces but the rest of their body is AV 0.

The tank is the first thing with AV3

We don't actually know what enemy weapons AP classes are, because there's no Enemy Compendium in the game.

[ebon mica]

Looked at hte annhilator tank and supposedly its penetration is 3

On the wiki

[mystic blade]

But Armor Values are currently all over the fuckin' place right now; because there are 11 Armor Values, starting at 0 and going to "10". AV 10 is only used on the Hive Lord right now. Then, beyond that the only other AVs that matter is up to 5? I think? Cuzz I don't think anything exceeds 5.

[ebon mica]

Theres the illuminate overship but you usually tank them down with a conveniently placed cannon objective

You would think we would have like

Air superiority options beyond air strikes

[mystic blade]

Man, I dunno what the fuck Arrowhead is doing on the backend. I only managed to finished 1 mission out of 5 because of lobby connectivity issues. I'd get halfway through a mission and then connection to the host would drop and I'd have no progress to show for it.

Like the game is finally starting to feel like it is getting good variance in gameplay because of the two latest warbonds, but once people start sliding around and then you desync and it takes the game 2 minutes before it drops you back into your Super Destroyer feels shitty.

[ebon mica]

Is helldiver not p2p?

[mystic blade]

This was from a discussion in regards to game guard back during the last wave of stability:

It's a quote from... peter Lindgren, the Technical Director of HD2

It doesn't seem anyone knows, that being said it does seem to be a server issue, because when I first join lobbies everything is smooth as butter and then it will just randomly desync super hard at seemingly random and then send me back to my Super Destroyer. I'm also worried, since it's on the Automaton Front for the MO, if there is a major bug with the Automatons again causing issues. Cuzz back before the big balance pass they did there was an Automaton Audio bug that would cause the game to severely hang and then eventually crash.

Just ask Flip. It drove him more mad than it did me, and it pissed me of.

Like I'm not trying to bash HD2 after a huge update and big things going on in the GW but I can't enjoy the game if everytime I get into it fuckin' DCs me and nixes all my progress.

[unborn lantern]

It feels like helldivers 2 is always on the verge of falling apart. Every big update seems to make it hard to play.

[mystic blade]

Believe it or not, HD2, Vermintide, Vermintide 2, and Darktide all run on the same engine.

Which kind of explains a lot in and of itself. But AH does not do enough stability stress testing when they play test their game if they do it at all.

[unborn lantern]

Stress testing? To Arrowhead that's when it's released and people play it

I mean I joke but I wouldn't be even a little surprised

[mystic blade]

As they like to say: "We're a small team" (despite tripling their staff size)

[unborn lantern]

I have not helldived in a while now, i need to hop on once the connection thing is fixed

[serene ruin]

The connection thing has been a real problem for me on level 10's

I'm in with a 4 man team, and 20 minutes later midmatch I'm solo

[unborn lantern]

wtf the new warbond has a laser shotgun and a boom hammer?

i havent been paying attention, anyone can say if the warbond is fun?

[serene ruin]

Boom hammer is the only anti-tank melee I can vouch for

It's pretty fun

One-shots bile titans, chargers, bulks, and sooome bot tanks

I had one match where me and and one other dude were beating up a factory strider with the boom hammer

Hover pack + boom hammer is fun

not optimal but it's pretty fun

Laser shotgun, from what I've seen, is pretty good at clearing light infantry, especially flying ones

[unborn lantern]

thats all i really need from a laser primary, there are enough sidearms for mediums including the laser revolver

def gonna get the warbond for the hammer though it seems fun

[serene ruin]

https://youtu.be/TrqIrYf3Yho?si=d5-reSxl_LuXnATD

[mystic blade]

The Trident (laser shotgun) is a weapon from HD1

I've seen Boom Hammer strat being used with Warp Pack for essentially High Priority Target assassination.

I want the C4 pack so I can run the new Shield grenade but I'm pretty sure C4 back pack's trigger takes your support weapon slot so it's singular function seems unintentionally restricted because of how the game works. I was hoping you could run it and support strats with lower AP but it's honestly kinda a non-starter for me like the Solo Silo in that regard.

[serene ruin]

I tanked an indirect 500kg while inside two shield bubbles

Granted, doesn't protect you from the knockback, only the first hit of damage

[serene ruin]

C4 looks fun too, though I fail to see it's practical use outside of making a hellbomb out of a car or laying a mine/minefield you can remote detonate

[mystic blade]

The shield break on a personal shield generator, shield generator defense strat, and the weird arm shield one protects you from the blast of 500kg so you prolly only needed one unless they arbitrarily changed for the grenade.

[serene ruin]

Def won't survive a direct hit from a 500kg, that's for sure; even still, I might've been able to make it out with one.

The personal ballistic shield (one-handed arm shield) is something I've come to love on 10's especially when there's Incineration Corps around. That thing blocks fire unlike the bubble shield stuff.

Then again, I also usually run grenade launcher for bots with EAT whenever I need it, especially with Incineration Corps.

I cannot stand the absolute fuckery that is the infinite health on bot shields.

[mystic blade]

No, I'm saying, when a typical energy shield breaks in Helldivers whatever broke the shield's effect is completely negated, usually 500kgs damage "last hits" the Energy Shield's health (not the device emitting the shield but the shield itself) and if that attack that broke the shield is an explosion anything inside the shield is unaffected by said explosion.

[serene ruin]

I mean yea, I get that much, as long as the explosions outside of the bubble.

[mystic blade]

Well, my point was speculating that, in theory of the shield grenade is anything like the Personal Shield Generator Pack then it should only take one to not die to an indirect 500kg (IE just the explosion).

[serene ruin]

True, but I wasn't sure if anything would split the damage, I was standing relatively close to it so I wanted to make sure I'd live

In short, I lived, not for long though as I got ejected off a cliff into some bots.

[mystic blade]

So it goes~

[serene ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/1c9MOUKHBYk?si=m5l4U7voEhMWD9pR

Sweet Liberty that's a nightmare

[hot quarry]

"SUPER EARTH'S PEOPLE. DO NOT BE AFRAID. WE ARE NOT HERE TO CAUSE HARM."

[mystic blade]

Is that one of the binary translations?

"FRIHET. VI HAR ALDRIG UPPLEVT FRIHET."

I wonder if they're gonna add The Steel Legion alongside the Cyborgs or just one or the other.

https://youtube.com/shorts/k9suBrJVYF4?si=eiG9wMpU0oKlPxUU

Kinda interesting to see multiple Sub-Factions on a planet and kinda hope Jet Brigade and Incineration Corps can be active at the same time in a mission.

The Cyborg Legion's theme supposedly leaked and I'm listening to it now. It goes kinda hard but grain of salt if it's real or not. It seems like the devs aren't intending to use the Choir version of the Automaton theme.

There is a part of the theme arrangement that makes me hope the Siege Mech is in this update.

Saw some more leaks. It's not the Siege Mech, it's a new unit with about the same strength/threat as a Factory Strider. It doesn't clear a sub-objective when killed like the Hive Lord does.

[ebon mica]

What is this dissident speech

[mystic blade]

My Helldiver is a member of HATE so anything to fuck over Super Earth 🙂

[trail vigil]

lmao this is so funny

[mystic blade]

It's pretty meta, yeah.

I wasn't sure if they could top making fun of George W Bush, but this is good too.

[serene ruin]

Wait what lmao

[mystic blade]

The "Mission Accomplished" banner on a Super Destroyer was making fun of Bush's war on Terrorism.

[mystic blade]

This ^

[serene ruin]

Oh dear lord lmao

[serene ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hyjIiR6SzIQ?si=d5SWsMcEPlWVzt0j

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qNUx8kDmTXA

[unborn lantern]

okay the boom hammer is extremely fun to take to deal with hulks

[serene ruin]

I know, right????

[unborn lantern]

honestly everything feels ggood/fun with the new warbond. love the laser shotgun, love the stratagem weapons

havent tried the thrown shield or the belt fed grenade launcher but i see myself using the shield grenade for bots

[mystic blade]

Just an FYI but the BFGL does less total damage and less durable damage than the regular GL at the same Armor Penetration level.

[unborn lantern]

I figured it wouldnt be as good as the og grenade launcher

i mostly got this warbond for the laser shotgun and boom hammer

[serene ruin]

Isn't the BFGL heavy armor pen and the regular GL medium armor pen?

[ebon mica]

Its 4 pen

Same as regular renade launcher

[serene ruin]

Huh... weird

[mystic blade]

They just buffed regular GL to be Heavy Armor Penetration.

[trail vigil]

Stratagems,
SH-20 Ballistic Shield Backpack,
Shorter cooldown from 300 to 240 sec,

Orbital Smoke Strike
Shorter cooldown from 100 to 75 sec,

CQC-9 Defoliation Tool
Increased damage from 300 to 450,
Increased durable damage from 150 to 225,

CQC-1 One True Flag
Increased damage from 110 to 200,
Increased durable damage from 55 to 100,

RS-422 Railgun
Move the “Safe/Unsafe mode” weapon function from Right to Left weapon function direction,

StA-X3 W.A.S.P. Launcher
Move the “Programmable ammo mode” weapon function from Right to - Left weapon function direction,

GL-21 Grenade Launcher
Increased armor penetration level from Medium to Heavy

[serene ruin]

Wait, then what's the point of the backpack version of the GL??

[trail vigil]

Shit ton of ammo and not needing to reload.

Also I think you can walk n shoot with this backpack one.

[unborn lantern]

i am so rusty after not playing much

[mystic blade]

People are speculating it was supposed to have shrapnel, cuzz it's only benefits are those two things. Cuzz the biggest issue is the instant loss of utility given that you have to occupy your support slot and backpack for it, and it has less range than similar backpack + gun combo support weapons (Recoilless, Auto Cannon, WASP) and compared to its little brother which can be paired with a Jump Pack, or Warp Pack to take out enemy bases or hordes of melee units from high ground... It's weird to say the least. OhDough also pointed out that its AOE damage is so low that it doesn't even kill the Terminid Warriors that are in the demo video it plays when you look at the Stratagem in the Acquisitions menu.

[trail vigil]

That makes a lotta sence. But yeah, since I don't have it, I can't really test it. I got enough creds to finally get the warp pack so I can grind out more creds for future content.

[mystic blade]

The Cyborgs are here~

[jagged olive]

the things that pop up after helldivers videos

[mystic blade]

Ough... That sucks.

[mystic blade]

(It's supposed to be a Hellbomb version of the funny Suicide Bomb robot from The Creator).

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mDNy60P5Ivo

[unborn lantern]

Theres so many people at cyberstan rn

[unborn lantern]

the shield bubble grenade is extremely nice tbh

[serene ruin]

I have no idea how you're supposed to kill Vox engines when there's like 6 of them lmao

At most you can kill 2 with a c4 pack

[mystic blade]

Spawn rates are a little overtuned right now, yeah.

[serene ruin]

I think it's valid though, we are on the bot home world after all.

It's just a little fuckin insane

[unborn lantern]

I like it

Very chaotic

[mystic blade]

It just occurred to me there is no reason they can't make the Stratagem Jammer work like the Fabricators, especially when at this point every other structure works like Fabricators. (Making it to where they have health, and if they take damage from something with a lower demo force they take damage instead of dying).

Cuzz you can knock down the gates leading into and out of the walls on Cyberstan with 3 hits from the Explosive Sledge:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Iafq7oh4tnQ

[mystic blade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UnkawOp_ciw?si=eIUnbU78XKQxG9Fs

[mystic blade]

https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/2023051047481061803

HELLDIVERS™ 2 (@helldivers2)

ANNIVERSARY COMMEMORATIVE CAPE
︀︀
︀︀To commemorate this anniversary, loyal defenders of Super Earth that logged in between Feb 1st 00:01 - 28th 23:59 CET will be awarded the Eye of Liberty Cape on March 2nd.
︀︀
︀︀Let the second anniversary of the Second Galactic War be witnessed by the Lidless Eye of Liberty, that ever-watchful orb which provides safety through its ceaseless surveillance.

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FxTwitter · Feb 15, 2026, 3:05 PM

[serene ruin]

I logged in, I didn't get my cape 🙁

[mystic blade]

It doesn't drop until March 2nd.

[serene ruin]

Ah didn't see that bit

I'm a lil illiterate

[mystic blade]

It's weird. "Log in the month of February (for a reward in March)".

[ebon mica]

Probably preloading for an update in march

[mystic blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hb-AGrM7buc

[unborn lantern]

You don't have to call me out like this

[mystic blade]

Hmmmmmmm

61% of the playerbase isn't able to move 2.5%? If the devs are gonna pull some Game Master Fiat out they better do it before we waste anymore respawns.

[mystic blade]

They had to deploy their community manager cuzz the discord is kinda blowing up at the fact that Transcendence isn't taking damage.

I'm assuming they're either about to drop something or they're waiting to flip a switch to enable us to start damaging it. I dunno, kinda scuffed cuzz we're losing Reserves. Estimated 46 hours left.

There we go. Took them about an hour to open up Transcendence to taking damage.

The game I think is still calculating liberation rate as people complete missions. Since I took the screen cap it's already risen another .015%

[mystic blade]

What the...

[mystic blade]

Bruh?

[serene ruin]

We don't have enough reinforcements to claim Cyberstan, the MO has been moved from claiming Transcendence to Solidaritet to protect the SEAF troops trying to evac

On the first day we get to Transcendence too, I swear to god.

[mystic blade]

Yeah they didn't really do this right IMO. The discord is kinda blowing up with people crashing out because: for one the reinforcement count galaxy wide so people dying on planets not related to the MO still count and people are also mad about all the bugs on Cyberstan making it very difficult to stay alive.

They're also mad that razing Cyberstan with the DSS is not going to count as Liberation.

[serene ruin]

I think not being able to steer your hellpod over small but manageable fortifications really added to the anger

I absolutely get not being able to steer it into the megabuildings or just big structures in general but I cant steer around the walls around the buildings or the foundations of the buildings at all so I find, more often than not, someone will call me in and I'm stuck where I spawn with the hellpod which is, more often than not, surrounded by bots in a huge firefight.

[serene ruin]

https://youtu.be/oyJUOlyEub0?si=-R9Us29wSPranhDI