I'm having a strange issue where my eyes Highlights are "vanishing" on model load in VTS, until a toggle that uses them is trigged and then it works just fine.
I've attempted removing them from the toggles entirely and this issue persists
#Eye Highlights Disappearing on Export
humble jay
pseudo tangle
I'm having a strange issue where my eyes Highlights are "vanishing" on model loa...
do they show up in l2d viewer?
humble jay
Yes
pseudo tangle
what parameters are they currently keyed on?
humble jay
So top 3 are just toggles. I've tried removing them from them entirely. It did not fix.
pseudo tangle
The meshes are keyed to these?
humble jay
yea
pseudo tangle
and what are the settings for the toggles
humble jay
could it... be... permutation?
I'm beginning to dislike this word LOL
humble jay
I'm still grasping what they are fully so it's a headache when they begin messing things up T_T
Toggles are just
0 - On
1 - Off for the hightlights
pseudo tangle
that may be what it is. you may also want to check if you have "save expressions" checked and see which ones are on
smoky kayak
you, dont know what a permutation is? i mean, thats a common question for a lot when start rigging and link too many parameters on same objects
humble jay
that may be what it is. you may also want to check if you have "save expression...
Save expression turned off. o7
pseudo tangle
well, to avoid them, you normally dont have more than 2 parameters keyed to an object
smoky kayak
yes, blendshapes parameter doesnt count for permutations, so you can have a lot
only normal parameters count for permutation, as iso say, not recomended to have more than 2
fleet girder
are you trying to do something like to hide the eye highlights when certain expression is ON?
smoky kayak
Toggles are just
0 - On
1 - Off for the hightlights
are all toggles does the same?
humble jay
are you trying to do something like to hide the eye highlights when certain expr...
Yes! This client has multiple different highlights per expression
smoky kayak
you could make 1 toggle to be like "highlights" and turn it on-off in all the others
[a toggle can move more than 1 parameter]
fleet girder
yea instead of keying highlights to every expression parameter you can just have one parameter to toggle the highlight
the expression are later configured in the exp file
smoky kayak
just to make things a little more organized
a toggle is any animation or expression of a model that activates with a key
an expression [wich is what you want to use here] is a file that moves one or more parameters
so, you can have 1 parameter to turn on-off the highlights, and use it in all the others expressions
humble jay
Gotcha
smoky kayak
you can create the expression, in live2d Viewer, or in VTS, wich is easier for u
fleet girder
as a golden rule if you are doing something that makes you key to more than 3 parameters probably you need to step back and think it over 
humble jay
Understood, would adding a rotation/warp parent possibly circumvent this? Or does that potentially cause more issues?
smoky kayak
[i would not use rotations for opacity parameters unless they are not suppose to deform]
humble jay
So for example if I was to parent these into their own new group, it should fix any permutation errors
smoky kayak
yes, you can create a warp deformer and only key on the parameter to turn them on-off
that is the way to fix your permutation issue
humble jay
Okay 