questions

[digital tiger]

The group gives back the equipment and loot to the one who killed the green player

Will the green player die for nothing and original killer suffer no penalty aside from regular death penalty the same as green?

[fluid needle]

the killer will suffer penalties the same way a green would yes. the hope is they make corruption a strong deterrent so we dont have grief squads but honestly it's inevitable. best bet is if the gank squad is recurring to contact the node they're in for help. there are often a few players willing to stomp down on griefers.

[digital tiger]

Would it make sense for Intrepid Studios to implement a lesser punishment for green players for getting PKed and increase the penalty for red players for death?

[fluid needle]

No, as that would not incentivise PvP. Truth is they aren't trying to stop the playstyle. If you want to be a ganker you can but in saying that there will be heavy consequences for it.

[digital tiger]

Ok, then what would be the heavy consequences?

[fluid needle]

The consequences described in the corruption part of the wiki. Item loss, stat dampening, material loss, XP debt.

It would take a dedicated group of griefers to mitigate the corruption and if your node has a rep for greens being ganked it's in the interest of the node to hunt them down.

[gloomy canyon]

heey is there a way to pre order the game for eu region?(in euro)

[spiral pine]

yes from their website

[worn wagon]

The prices in the shop are in dollar. If you pay with xsolla you might be able to pay in euro

[desert ivy]

I'd recommend using Stripe (default payment method) instead of Xsolla. Xsolla makes it so you need to pay the extra VAT. Stripe you pay the amount shown.

[tawny portal]

You dont need to preorder though. Unless you want a bundle. Otherwise wait for the monthly sub fee without a box price

[spice plover]

Are cosmetics in the cash ship for items earned in game or just separate items?

[desert ivy]

They're skins, so you need to obtain the items in-game to apply them first. So you need to obtain a Galion ship before applying a Galion skin. You need a T2 mount to apply a gliding mount skin etc.

[rancid cypress]

Items in the cash shop are also variations of gear/skins found in the game. You won't be able to find the exact same looking items in the game. But they'll be similar. (Perhaps)

[spice plover]

This is great to hear!... we were discussing this a few nights ago... I believe this is something that need to be pointed out better in marketing... maybe it has and we missed it... this is AWESOME to hear.

Cash shop are usually the boogeyman in games.... lol

[teal sapphire]

Rip red players, can’t pvp or lose all your stuff…

[spiral pine]

you can

[teal sapphire]

Equipment loss should only be in certain areas, thats reverse progression, thats a little too much

[spiral pine]

you can drop your gear if you get enough corruption and die

[teal sapphire]

Everybody dies

Too hardcore, will not be good for the game

[spiral pine]

its not too hardcore

[teal sapphire]

Gear is hard to obtain, especially good gear, shouldn’t be able to just take it from somebody without a trade

It’s funny now, but what if it happens to you lol

[spiral pine]

did you miss the whole corruption part

[teal sapphire]

Doesn’t matter, thats pvp

[spiral pine]

okay im outa this convo

[teal sapphire]

I may not like the reds, but thats their gear

[arctic sky]

Lmao

[junior ember]

Let's keep this channel clear for questions, please. 🙂

[arctic sky]

To go red you basically have to grief

[teal sapphire]

Roger

[candid compass]

Good afternoon. I just pre-ordered Ashes but I do not have access for a Referral code. Do I have to wait until Alpha 2 before being able to generate one?

[plucky pawn]

No, you should have one right away on this page: https://ashesofcreation.com/settings/referrals - what is the particular access error you're seeing?

[candid compass]

I click generate a code and nothing happens.

[plucky pawn]

what browser are you in by chance?

[candid compass]

Chrome.

[plucky pawn]

Hmm, seems I'm able to generate one fine in Chrome! Would you mind trying another browser?

I think some folks may have noted that particular ad blockers may prevent that widget from showing up

[candid compass]

Hmm, I don't have any ad blockers haha. Is it supposed to have a popup window?

Omg. I just refreshed the page and it popped up. hahaha Thank you though! I'm just a moron.

[plucky pawn]

Glad to hear you can see it now!

[marble kraken]

Do you know if there will be an option or commandline something i can enter to use SLI? I ended up with 2 3070's and could either upgrade an old pc and make a new one or make one new ovrpowered monster

[spiral pine]

I dont think the 3070 has sli

So

[marble kraken]

sorry 3090, hands not onhome row

and the 3080's do

err 3070

[spiral pine]

According to Google only the 3090 has sli

[marble kraken]

they're dropping support for everything below the 3090

they're not doing any further driver profiles for 3080 and below, depending on game manufacturers for support

[tacit orbit]

#general-discussion

:P

[marble kraken]

what followed is general discussion but had an actual game question 😛

[tacit orbit]

True :D

[spiral pine]

To be fair this wouldnt probably be relevant when the game launches in a few years

[lilac bear]

Hi, I have a question about the recruitment texts.
How about intellectual property? When someone copies 99% of the recruiting text. can you do something about it?

[worn wagon]

If you have recruited for your guild before and can prove that you are the leader of that guild and notice an unauthorised recruitment post, feel free to let a mod know and we'll take a look at it.

[lilac bear]

yes i can prove it

[warped kayak]

During sieges, will it be only PvP, or there will be like Fort/city guard NPC's, whom will help defend the fort/city?

[astral fable]

"Mayors are able to allocate treasury funding to hire mercenary NPCs to defend their node during sieges." https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mercenary_NPCs

[wild phoenix]

Can you still get cashback from the referral program?

[ruby swift]

If legal and applicable to your region of the world, sure. That has not changed. You of course will be liable for any and all tax obligations, since it will count as revenue.

Now, many of those quotes are old af, you may want to try and get an updated answer either here from a CM or during a livestream.

[rustic isle]

Hi guys, sorry to be a pain and ask a question that has probably been asked so many times.. but if I pre order the game now, will I be able to play now?

[desert ivy]

No, the alpha testing is currently down while the devs work on implementing new stuff and improving existing stuff

Last they said was that there will be "significant downtime" while they work on the game

[open bane]

You will be able to participate in the testing phases according to your pre-order pack, when those go live which so far it's not known. Maybe there will be some info on that on September 24 livestream.

[rustic isle]

That’s perfect, thank you @desert ivy @open bane

[crystal beacon]

how long will it be until the alpha 2 keys are no longer available on the preorder? just wanting to know how long i have to save up

[tranquil willow]

We don't have any dates yet, but they will give us plenty of notice before those are removed, so no need to worry

[crystal beacon]

good stuff, thanks ❤️

[sleek cipher]

but probb about a year... 🤔

but yea, wait for announcement

[fresh shore]

How many abilities/combat arts/spells are likely to be available for active use (not including buffs)

[desert ivy]

We don't know. The only thing they've said is "fewer than 30" abilities on your actionbars

But that's also if you put all your points into every spell. If you decide to put more than 1 point in each spell then you'll end up with much less spells

So it depends if you want a massive variety of spells, or less spells but more powerful spells

[fresh shore]

I am really hoping it is not super simple with that respect

[fresh shore]

Do you know what the less but more powerful min would be around?

Or not known yet

[desert ivy]

I mean currently you can put 3 points into each spell but we don't know how many spells each class will have overall so

[fresh shore]

I just can’t stand mmos with 5 abilities, seems too simple of combat (again, my opinion)

Got it

[desert ivy]

This is something we probably won't know till like the end of Alpha 2

But there are also passives and stuff you can put points in, not just active spells

and there's also the weapon skills as well

[fresh shore]

Sounds good

The waiting game for alpha 2 shall continue

As long as they avoid the any player can be anything with no real role and the 5 buttons to push during combat, they will be significantly better than almost all the recent mmos

[leaden bough]

Does anyone now if ashes will have a sort of mixed set, trasnmoging/"fashion souls" feature? I know we've seen full sets and the look really really slick, and I'd love to be able to have mixed sets for fashion purposes, thanks guys 👍

[spiral pine]

!wiki transmog

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Appearance slots

Gear will have appearance slots (Transmutation/Transmog/cosmetic slots) that are used to copy the appearance of an item (in some cases).
There are rules when applying cosmetics to specific items, unlike costumes, which don't have level restrictions.
Cosmetic slots can be toggled on or off by the player.
A "default player appearance" may be automat...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Appearance_slots

[leaden bough]

@spiral pine thanks 👍

[vernal swallow]

ooh, that's a new information for me! I thought eventually we'd be able to have all the abilities for that class unlocked once we max out the character.

[sleek cipher]

but for the other hand i hate dancing on a keyboard to make combo, so probb thats why u can choose multiple spells or only few but stronger

[fresh shore]

Dancing on the keyboard = easier to separate with more skill

[sleek cipher]

preferations

[fresh shore]

I’d rather have more abilities, more combinations, more synergy

[sleek cipher]

u see, i prefer less abilties

[worn wagon]

Please move it down to a discussion channel

[fresh shore]

Yeah I mean idk why but I know many do, that’s why we have console games that can be done in 4 buttons

Got it np

[limber zenith]

is there some sort of limiations or requirements for forum display names ?

[ancient egret]

other then common sense stuff i dont believe so

[limber zenith]

hmm ive tried Wipeout and a few others and just says name is invalid after it loads for a few minutes 😅

[ancient egret]

the website is a bit fucked some times so they may already be taken and it just cant deal with it

[limber zenith]

lol 😦

[ancient egret]

it took me almost 2 hrs to find a name so good luck

[limber zenith]

i probably wont use the forums if its that much hassle to get a name lol discord is alot easier 😛

[vernal swallow]

Take it to discussion channels guys, keep this area for just questions n answers 🙂

[ancient egret]

my guy nobody had said anything for 30 min that comment was just about useless

[fluid needle]

Take it to discussion channels guy, keep this area for just questions n answers 🙂

[sleek cipher]

Is there going to be all cool stuff like particles only for legendary items or other to but weaker?

Ik taht its in the Wiki but i do t understand the answer

[arctic sky]

They have special effects as a ks goal reward so I'm going to go with yes.. Lots of cool particle effects

Now if they will be in your low level wand? Who knows

[sleek cipher]

Not low level, just not the highest rarity... Like in rate item lv50

[ruby swift]

There will be a variety off effects in game. Intensity and rarity to be determined. Part of the feedback from the BR was that everyone was running around in TRON armor with their lightsabers. So they toned things down a bit to get back to "vision"

[dense nebula]

Any idea about viable build variety? Will we be able to come up with things that will shout "hey, it's stupid but it works"?
E.g Tank that deals 0 dmg but has a low chance to auto cast some spell on random while beeing damaged ?

[desert ivy]

We don't know what 99% of the skills/augments/passives/combos are yet

[fluid needle]

especially for ranger

[vapid veldt]

That's probably thinking waaay to high. Realistically, I except them to have about 15-20 skills with pseudo-changes, as in super simple changes

But, I am very open and very happy to be proven wrong

[dire pond]

Dont forget you still have a choice to make a siege build with your character instead of fighting build.

Or even an artisan build ( or gear set)

[vernal swallow]

How much money is invested into his project? Is it 15 million?

[full badger]

We don't have an exact amount, from either the players or Steven.

The initial kickstarter campaign raised over $3mil, but of course there has been a lot more money raised since then from the pre-order packs.

[high spade]

If im not mistaken. Was it not said that Steven invested $30m before the Kickstarter? I remember something like that back then and that the game is already fully funded.

[vernal swallow]

Is this true?

[tight socket]

i'd say not, even just based on the last part. they have job openings for more than one job. you can check the intrepid website to see that

[high spade]

This must be atleast 2-3 years old.

[ruby swift]

Nah, like many of those "net worth" sites on individuals and companies they are primarily entertainment and riddled with inaccuracy.

[desert ivy]

intrepid studios currently has 1 job openings
https://intrepidstudios.com/careers

That should tell you that that website isn't accurate

[signal inlet]

the 13 million annual revenue with no real product should toss up some flags as well

[knotty creek]

Hey! just bought the pre order pack anyone knows some info about 2nd alpha test coming out any date? thank you.

[tight socket]

We don't currently have a date for the alpha 2 testing. Wouldn't expect it this year though

[knotty creek]

ohh is it that long? dam...

[spiral pine]

Expect to wait a few years to full launch

[errant ermine]

Hello,

So I've been wondering if there is any alternative way to get access the game as is right now (Alpha stage).

Reason of my question is that I **just want to farm. **

[spiral pine]

No

[errant ermine]

(I've already pre ordered the game) but as i understand Ill have to wait months to get a glimpse of gameplay

and that's a bit.. discouraging.

[tight socket]

No, currently the only way into alpha testing is through the store and the packs. The Alpha is currently down having recently finished a cycle of A1 testing. A2 testing we have no dates for as yet. Any farming you were to do now would also have no relevance on the game at launch

[errant ermine]

I'm not heads and tails for a perfect game as i understand its in a pre stage.

im not looking to make progress ahead of everyone else. I know how alpha and beta phases work 😛

[tight socket]

thats cool, often we do have to explain this to people 😛

[errant ermine]

I'm a L2 veteran so I'm Thirsty for that grind for no reason feeling hahaha

any how, thank you for answering my question

[tight socket]

no worries 🙂

[desert ivy]

There's not really anything to farm atm anyway

[quick pine]

I wouldn't expect A2 or either Beta progress to carry over to live

[desert ivy]

They won't

Everything is wiped before launch

[quick pine]

Good

Update is on Friday right?

[desert ivy]

Ye

[quick pine]

Nice

Hope we get at least an estimated date for A2

[signal inlet]

They are still hiring a ton of people so there is no real way to estimate it yet

[quick pine]

A man can dream

[vernal swallow]

Lol, I didn't see that. My bad

[ruby swift]

They gave an estimated date for A2. "Sometime next year I imagine" was the paraphrase.

[quick pine]

Oof

[ruby swift]

Totally normal. They are coming off their technical A1, they have several rounds of in house development to adjust and finish over the next few months closing out 2021. We may get spot testing as needed on the A1 client as they ramp up and add the various systems to make the game "A2"

[fallow igloo]

will the battle royal gamemode be a thing in the future?

[full badger]

There are currently no plans to bring back APOC (the ashes BR mode) @fallow igloo

[brisk cape]

I think everyones just excited for more classes after just playing the 3 all pre alpha one and thru alpha 1

i know i am lol

Had a lot of fun in A1 but mage tank and cleric isn’t a class i wanna play but happy that i can test each class each alpha 😊

[shy ice]

So, is it a subscription service to play the game?

[full badger]

Yes, Ashes of Creation will have a monthly subscription and cosmetic only cash shop. There won't be a box cost and all expansion content will be free, so all you'll need to pay is the monthly subscription.

[vernal swallow]

That too, $15 per month

Okay so will there be proximity voice chat?

[dire pond]

Group/raid, tavern voice chat too

[worn wagon]

No, proximity voice chat is currently not planned

[vernal swallow]

Will biomes give racial buffs/debuffs?
For example; Dunirs have strength bonus when they are in snowy mountains, Vaelunes have speed bonus in the desert biome but speed debuff in a forest, something like that?

[worn wagon]

Don't think that's planned right now, but seasons might influence magic

[spiral pine]

They arent going for those kind of racial traits/buffs

[civic obsidian]

There is racial augments

[spiral pine]

That only augments your skills/archetype

[ruby swift]

In keeping with our theme of Consequence, and unlike other games, race won’t just be a matter of look, with relatively inconsequential abilities tacked on. Instead they integrate deeply into our class system, augmenting and changing the basic chassis provided by our eight core archetypes. Our goal here is to create a system where an elven fighter feels different, but serves the same role as a dwarven fighter.[10]

[magic tangle]

Any idea when we have some more testing to accomplish? I’m sure it has been asked plenty of times and I’m sorry if so 😢

[rigid rose]

There is no scheduled testing as of right now... will have to wait a bit! Keep a eye on the spot testing news channel.

[magic tangle]

Awesome thank you kindly!

[spiral pine]

We might get some news on friday though

[quick pine]

🤞

[harsh spear]

Hi.

I would like to buy the most expensive preorder from ashes of creation official web page
but I am a player from Poland (Europe) and I don't know if this is for the European market or just America?

[worn wagon]

The shop is for all regions

[harsh spear]

thanks for the info

[tawny portal]

When does the stream start?

Thanks

[crystal beacon]

Does anyone have a clue when the next alpha (2) comes out? 🤔 (just curious)

Ohh okay. Because i am super excited to play the game for the first time :D (but i wanna know when the alpha comes out, so i can save up for the bundle)

Is there any videos or articles you guys would recommend watching or reading towards the game for gathering knowledge?

[fluid needle]

!wiki

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki

[vernal urchin]

you should watch the elden ring trailer

[crystal beacon]

ok, will do :)

Thanks to both of you

[vernal urchin]

you know that elden ring does not have anything to do with aoc

but it will be a great game

[crystal beacon]

ohhh, well i didn't know, but thanks anyways. Will take a look into it

[small mirage]

When will beta 1 begin?

[civic obsidian]

Beta will be in the months coming up to release so years away still

[small mirage]

Oh alright

what about alpha?

[tight socket]

alpha 1 has recently finished, alpha 2 expected next year but no exact dates known

[small mirage]

Alright

was alpha 1 promising since I wasn't really able to watch any?

[lusty kite]

yes. You can watch some of the Alpha 1 footage here: https://www.youtube.com/c/AshesofCreation

[tight socket]

for a technical alpha? (not a marketing alpha as we are used to from eastern mmo imports/blizzard) very. i would recommend going to youtube and checking out some footage for yourself though

[small mirage]

ty

will the game be free?

[worn wagon]

No box cost, $15 per month

[small mirage]

so if you can't pay 15 a month you can't play?

[lusty kite]

correct. The only way to play will be to pay for the monthly subscription

[small mirage]

well won't be a problem for me but my friend didn't sound too happy

[dapper chasm]

Let him do some housework for u and in return u r paying his monthly sub 😉

[small mirage]

Damn, great idea!

[stable plover]

Subcost reductions are possible through the referral program, and some price harmonized servers might exist in regions like Brazil eventually that charge a cheaper rate to only play on that server.

[small mirage]

okay

[arctic sky]

There is also a referral system.. if your friend has at least 7 referrals paying for their subs in full they won't have to pay sub costs that month

[vagrant barn]

I see that the AoC website is using Angular. What I didn't see are postings for Angular Engineers. What other technologies are you using for the website and are there many new features planned for the site?

[desert ivy]

They outsource most of the work for their website

[upbeat comet]

Hey whatsup guys, found out about this game just today and have to say I’m really amazed! Now, all great things takes time to build up, but is there any talks about a release date for the game?

[desert ivy]

No

Game is still years from release

[upbeat comet]

Ah I see, so in the meantime it’s the alpha you can play on?

When it’s available

[desert ivy]

When it's available, yes

No word on when the next alpha testing will be though as they're working on implementing new features and the feedback they received from the month long Alpha 1 test

There's the monthly developer livestream tomorrow though at 11am PST if you wanna watch live though

[upbeat comet]

I see, how come the game is taking so long to finish? I haven’t really read up a lot about the game studio that created the game, I mean if there are a bunch of employees or a rather small group?

[desert ivy]

They currently have somewhere north of 100 employees with the aim to be at 150 by years end

[upbeat comet]

Ahh very nice

[desert ivy]

Up until last year though they didn't have too many employees, they've only recently started to mass hire

In 2017 for example they had 15~ employees

[upbeat comet]

I see! That’s some improvement right there

While it feels sad knowing there are years ahead to release, it still makes you happy knowing they put in the time to really create something good

I was looking up new world and i didn’t really have a good gut feeling about it

How long can you usually play when they have the alpha open?

[dapper chasm]

5-7 years is the average amount an mmo, especially this size, takes for development. So a release 2023/24 would be totally common.

[desert ivy]

Depends on what kind of testing it is. During the spot testing which is what they're currently doing it's usually a few hours long

[upbeat comet]

That’s crazy, I underestimated the time for sure!

[upbeat comet]

Okay, have you played the game? Or what’s your opinion on the game

[desert ivy]

That it's very alpha feeling and is very barebones atm

They're currently working on getting all the systems working properly before adding a lot of the content

Such as making the combat better before working on the classes

[upbeat comet]

Yeah you’re right that it does sound like it’s barebones, so you don’t get a special feeling towards it or anything?

[desert ivy]

Not yet

But I'm very picky with MMOs, the only MMO I've gotten a "feeling" towards was ArcheAge during its alpha/beta

And I've played tons of MMOs

I doubt I'll know whether I'll have that same feeling for Ashes until late late alpha 2 or the betas

[upbeat comet]

Yeah it’s very hard getting that feeling for an mmo.. but it’s very addictive when it comes 😛

So no plans to play New World?

[desert ivy]

I'll play New World, but only because my guild is playing it and there's nothing else to play. I don't care for it at all really, the combat is pretty bad, not much content. Apart from the graphics it honestly feels like it was made by an indie studio

[upbeat comet]

Yeah exactly, I’m thinking the exact same.. but it just doesn’t feel good to force play a game because you’ve got nothing else to play, at least you got a good reason! Yeah you’re very right, looks very bland sadly

Doesn’t really help that it’s Amazon either, and from what I know they picked up the game from a studio that gave up the game?

[desert ivy]

Nah it was always Amazon's game, they didn't pick it from another studio

[upbeat comet]

Ah okay must’ve read it about some other game

[sleek cipher]

is skill going to be rewarding or nobody cares about skill?

[desert ivy]

Well they want gear to be around 40-50% of a players power

Other than that it's hard to categorise how much "skill" will play a role atm

[acoustic osprey]

one concern I have with the artisan class is that one cannot be both a high level tamer/breeder. Am I right to be concerned with this? How can I profit off of breeding strong/exotic mounts/pets when I am unable to tame powerful creatures myself? vice versa. Someone please elaborate on this for me.

[dark jungle]

The game is designed around playing with other people. Find artisans you can work with to provide the services you need

[acoustic osprey]

so if i was a master tamer i’d have to hire a breeder to create new breeds of pets, and if I was a master breeder i’d have to purchase tamed animals from other players in order to experiment with them?

i understand how the game is designed to rely on others with a cycle of processing goods but i’m kind of hoping taming and breeding are close enough where you can do both without needing to rely on others

[dark jungle]

Relying on other players is a cornerstone of the game design

[fluid needle]

If I am a player using plate but have leather crafting can I make plate without having to rely on others?

[torn mortar]

I would say, "doubtful, but TBA".

[quick pine]

Bah I can't wait 😭

[civic obsidian]

it was in news

[spiral rose]

that's so weird, it's there

it wasn't sent out from me following the announcement channel before though lol

[upbeat comet]

is it both public and private dungeons in this game?

[tight socket]

so far they are looking at 80% open 20% instanced ish i thin. but yes there will be open and instanced content in the game

[spiral rose]

idk, i followed it again, lol

[upbeat comet]

i see, would hope there would be more like a 50/50!

[tight socket]

nope, they want to keep the world more open

[upbeat comet]

so are the public dungs soloable? or do they require a group for that too

[tight socket]

they are aiming to have more group content.

[desert ivy]

Open-world dungeons aren't soloable, no

Plus you would just get attacked by other players if you were on your own

[upbeat comet]

haha alright, so the pvp is on at all times?

[spiral pine]

i mean if you would be high enough in lvl

it would be possible to solo

[desert ivy]

You can't turn PvP off

!wiki corruption

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Corruption

Corruption in Ashes of Creation refers to:

Player corruption gained through the PvP flagging system.
The negative aspect of The Essence, spread by The Ancients during the Apocalypse (Lore). Corrupted areas/zones that evolve with node progression. Corruption tarnishes the character’s spiritual essence. Their ability to utilize the Verra’s magic fo...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Corruption

[upbeat comet]

A combatant (purple player) who dies suffers these same penalties, but at half the rate of a non-combatant.
so in order to lose as minimum xp, skills, hp etc as possible when dying you should be combatant?

[tight socket]

its to encourage you to fight back

[upbeat comet]

cool cool

[modest basalt]

Does anyone know what the pre-alpha or beta coming out?

[junior ember]

No date announced for the next test phase (Alpha-2) 🙂

[simple mirage]

Was honestly going to ask the same thing Xen, tyvm for doing so and tyvm for the response Vaknar

[modest basalt]

@junior ember thanks

[stable plover]

If you happen to be looking for Alpha 1 footage you could scroll up some in #community-media, search youtube for it, or see what sorts of footage comes out of the livestream starting on twitch in 8 min or so.

[modest basalt]

Thanks

[sleek cipher]

where to ask questions for friday streams?

[spiral pine]

its end of month streams

[sleek cipher]

yes

[worn wagon]

The stream just ended. Feel free to watch it on youtube and keep an eye on the news channel here for the announcement for the next stream

[sleek cipher]

ik, im just wondering where to ask questions

[worn wagon]

In the forum

[sleek cipher]

👍

[torn mortar]

They seem to open a thread for questions on the forum about a week before the stream.

[worn wagon]

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/51135/next-live-stream-q-a-submission-friday-september-24-2021-at-11am-pdt#latest
this was the thread for todays stream

[sleek cipher]

thanks

[stable plover]

Steven's doing an interview in 2 days that's taking questions here https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/ppy9bb/episode_100_with_steven_sharif_ashes_of_creation/

[sleek cipher]

thanks too

[quick pine]

Did they mention anything at all about A2?

[ruby swift]

Yeah, that they workin on it.

[quick pine]

Better than nothing lol

[ruby swift]

They have said previously that A2 will not be this year, so if you are looking for a date, you have a bit of a wait.

[quick pine]

No I wasn't looking for a date

[violet quest]

when beta ?

[spiral pine]

no date for that yet

and no date for alpha 2 either

[desert elm]

Tulnar, pweese 🥺

[opal breach]

🥺 they showed us orc so hopefully soon

[desert elm]

I did like the orc model. Probably my favorite so far. Just slap a dragon head on it and scale me up, already! I do not even need a tail to be happy!

[marsh ravine]

alpha 2 out yet?

[onyx knoll]

It is not, and we don't have a date for it as this time

[rigid cape]

Is there a screenshot section for the game? Any cool camera angles?

[onyx knoll]

Do you mean a photo-mode? if you're looking for images of the current state of the game, the wiki or the official youtube channel are good places

[rigid cape]

Yes photo mode. Thank you for the quick response.

[onyx knoll]

Currently there's no specific photo mode, you can free move your camera around your character and hide your UI though so you can take pretty nice screenshots, but there isn't free-floating camera

[rigid cape]

Ah, I got you. Thank you. Looking forward to seeing more gameplay.

[oak depot]

@idle siren 😇 during stream Q&A you answered that for a give node stage all 4 node types would have equivalent, and thus competitive, XP gain potential opportunities (across Mob, Gathering and Quest XP). Given that ... how do you plan to balance non-deterministic (from a time-to-complete or even viability) quest progression lines? Example: bounty hunter quest to kill a corrupted player (it's possible no corrupted player exists... or they are on other part of the world and thus take a long time to hunt down).

[main shadow]

that's actually a good point

there should be abundant of quests to do so maybe it would be something you would just have to do later when they pop up

if multiple bounty hunters hunt a corrupted player do all involved in the killing get credit

[severe lily]

qestion,understand if you cant anwser this but is the Tulnar gonna be short ? was wondering since kobolts where mentioned as a compersion

[torn mortar]

" Q: Will character creator allow us to make Tulnar that might look somewhat like Kobolds from Pathfinder or DnD?
A: I wouldn't say exactly, but there's definitely elements of Kobolds that you could incorporate in a character creator with the Tulnar, yes.[21] – Steven Sharif "
Unless there is another quote that I missing, personally, I would not call this a comparison. It simply says that you could incorporate some Kobold or Kobold-like elements. Of course, there will be a height slider in the character creator as well, so given the lore behind the Tulnar I would guess they will likely have the widest range for this. I don't know if this helps, but I thought I'd try to help anyway. Haha.

[reef veldt]

Question: will the game at any point have a trial version for X days like eso/eve used to? Try before you buy type thing where you can get so see if you like it before spending money on it?

[dapper chasm]

They havent said anything about something like that.But since u dont have a boxprice u just spend 15$ and r good to go for a whole month, and there will be tons of Streams before so u should know if this is ur game or not beforehand.

[upbeat comet]

it says the inital release date for the game is september 24 on google, is that just a misinterpretationfor like an alpha release or something?

[desert ivy]

That was the release date for Apocalypse which was their Battle Royale testing mode a few years back

not the MMO

[upbeat comet]

ohh ok, so its a part of aoc or is it a complete other game?

[desert ivy]

It was separate

Used to test the backend networking and kinda test the action side of combat

[vernal urchin]

imagine not being an og and not knowing about apocalypse

[upbeat comet]

ahh i see

[honest solstice]

so since theres undead / not quite living creatures in aoc will they be breedable like other mounts or will they have their own speical methods like for undeads they can be crafted by some profession and get a soul put into it by like a necromancer or smth

[spiral pine]

!wiki breeding

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Breeding mechanics

Animal husbandry will have discoverable blends of breeding.
Rare creatures can be captured and tamed to breed animals with specific traits. Pets, Mounts and Livestock have unique traits that can be bred.
Royal mounts (such as Dragons) are dropped as eggs that can be cultivated by Animal husbandry artisans with a high enough stable upgrade on their...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Breeding_mechanics

[spiral pine]

Too early to tell tbh

[honest solstice]

yea thats what i expected hope they make it intresting somehow

[cosmic shell]

Has there been any update on the lead game designer position yet?

[twilit bison]

I noticed during the node simulation that there were physical mountain ranges drawn out as it loaded up. While these physical barriers don't seem to affect the simulation, is it possible that an overlord node will have a tougher time controlling vassal nodes if players have to go around a mountain range just to get trade between them?

[spiral pine]

Thats entirely up to the players

[patent bear]

in equipment what is the diffrence between core stats and additional stats?

[dark jungle]

steven said on the last stream that he is still interviewing candidates and will announce when he finds a suitable replacement

in the meantime he is fulfilling the role

[heady canopy]

Update when alpha 2 will start yet?

[full badger]

@heady canopy no more information about it yet, sorry.

[desert ivy]

Don't expect it this year

[crystal beacon]

What is the family's all about in AOC? I'm not sure, is it like the sims?

Where you get to protect, comfort, take care of your family in game

[ruby swift]

!wiki families

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Families

Families are a means to relate up to nine characters.
A character may only belong to one family at a time.
Leaving one family and joining another family will have a cooldown period in the order of days.
Family sizes are normally limited to eight characters. Marriage increases family size by one to allow player housing permissions to be shared.
Thi...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Families

[upbeat comet]

!wiki raid

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Raids

Raids will either be based on triggered events or more traditional systems. Traditional world bosses will change based on node development.
We want things to be more fluid and one of the ways that we make them more fluid is through our triggered event system. That is one of the methods by which we make these more spontaneous. We make them more acc...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Raids

[crystal beacon]

Thanks,

[hearty breach]

What's the max member count you can have in your guild? Assuming i'm investing all my guild points into increasing guild size....

[spiral pine]

!wiki guild size

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Guild size

Guild size of 300 is currently the maximum cap that can be attained by leveling the guild and selecting the path of size as opposed to the path of guild skills.
Guild size can be traded off for guild progression. The higher the guild's member cap, the fewer available skill options will be available to that guild.
The maximum size for a guild that...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_size

[dense obsidian]

Some items are bind on loot/equip ? Since corrupted player can drop equiped items, i guess not ?
If items are not binds, what mecanism are used to reward pve player in a way that gold can't buy ?

[spiral pine]

!wiki soulbound

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki search results

1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Gear_binding>

...objectives for the economy. Very little gear will be account bound or soulbound in Ashes of Creation. The game economy is based around crafting and degradation...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Accounts>

...objectives for the economy. Very little gear will be account bound or soulbound in Ashes of Creation. The game economy is based around crafting and degradation...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Account_management>

...objectives for the economy. Very little gear will be account bound or soulbound in Ashes of Creation. The game economy is based around crafting and degradation...

[dense obsidian]

thanks

"There may be some gear binding (BoE or BoP) but it will be an exception" -> That mean those items will not drop even for a corrupted player ?

[tranquil willow]

Good question. I think the corruption would go around that mechanic

but I'm not sure if they specified this. It might be a good idea to make a forum post or send the question to devs

[dense obsidian]

My point is, that i suppose that the few BoE will be for hight end items obtained thought end-game and difficult content. So that mean a corrupted player with an epic BoE weapon will take less risk than a regular player while being way more dangerous.

If the corruption go around it, that open the risk of turning a character with a BoE item into a pina colada until it drop to bypass the BoE, right ?

[tranquil willow]

Well, they would still need to get corrupted. Which means they took the risk knowing what might happen. It serves as a punishment really, a way to decentivise ganking and such

[dense obsidian]

Well, i understand that it's a difficult process (and you need to re-corrupt your character at every death) and there is other penality, but i wonder if that's a potential problem. People could go far for an exceptional item.

[spiral pine]

You dont lose all your corruption on dying once

[dense obsidian]

Btw, if you are killed by a player over and over again, does it still reduce corruption (i mean, "friendly kill" from a friend) ?

[spiral pine]

Yes

[dense obsidian]

So, if i understand well, the best course of action once corrupted is to try to rush to your private storage to store all your gear until naked to avoid durability loss, find a friend who will kill you over and over (gaining reward as bouty hunter) and the only penality you get is Experience debt. Btw, does experience debt do something if you are max level ?

[spiral pine]

Stat loss

[full badger]

yes, die enough times and your stats will be lowered so much that even a level 1 player can kill you

[dense obsidian]

Ok, so even naked, death is still something you want to avoid

[full badger]

yes

[tranquil willow]

Probably the best thing to do is to try to work off the corruption by killing monsters (which is risky since you are out in the open). But ofc, not getting corrupted is a smart thing to do as well

[full badger]

Yep, you can work off corruption by grinding mobs or completing certain quests

[dense obsidian]

It's not that i want to do it, i wonder of these design choice can impact the gameplay. For exemple, if you are a player who choose to be corrupted, it could be better to have a private storage in a node where there is only few people to switch from an expensive equipement to a low cost alt gear once you face gear related penality risks.

[spiral pine]

Guards will attack you on sigth

[full badger]

Corruption isn't designed to be a "gameplay option". It's designed to be a punishment for griefing

[dense obsidian]

It's written that corrupted people can use private storage ? How could they if guards attack them ?

[full badger]

There's nothing stopping a corrupted player from going into a town, they will just get attacked by guards if they do

Plus you can get storage in freeholds

[dense obsidian]

thanks for all the answers

[full badger]

No worries

[dense obsidian]

An other thing, in the Player death penality page, i read for corrupted players : "There is a 60 second timer to logout while corrupt".
I don't see a mention of a logout timer anywhere else. That mean non-corrupted players can logout in the middle of fight to avoid death ? Or they will implement a logout timer when you are in active fight, regardless of your corruption state

[tranquil willow]

It says that you also cannot log out while flagged for PvP, but I'm not sure how long that will last

So you cannot use that to avoid death

[dense obsidian]

ok

thanks @tranquil willow

[dapper chasm]

If the answers rnt in the wiki we dont have them either. Corruption is a system what just gets into testing with a lot of changes and balancing.
So take nothing for granted right now. It could be that ur gear is locked on u while being corrupted to avoid 'changing to lowlevel gear while cleaning corruption'...or not being able to use any storage...etc...nothing is done right now 🙂

[dense obsidian]

I played a long time on an old mmo with this kind of mecanism (well, more simple, it was a server-wide variable to configure xp/gold/equiped-gear/bag-gear % loss for pve and pvp separatly) and i thought this hard sanctions where now obselete, so i'm quite happy to see a game that have a similar mindset.
Actually, except from players who loose their shit from time to time, dedicated PK where quite rare, because their name got quickly know and they quickly have the whole server tracking them.

I just thought of something, but i wonder if that's worth making a post about it : Is there some time-limited 'revange right' when a corrupted player kill you ? Like you get kill by a corrupted player, and you see it 24h later without the corrupted status. It could be nice if you should be able to kill him without penality.

[tranquil willow]

There are no plans for that currently, but it is an interesting idea. You could make a forum post if you want and see how others feel about it

[low path]

hiya, was watching the latest dev update and was wondering, wont the towns and such all eventually reach max level? Or is a part of sieges the downgrade of a node?

[slate oyster]

Im not completely certain, but from what I've seen, to upgrade Nodes to higher levels, it usually needs to take stuff from other nodes, meaning if one node is at the highest level, then the ones around it would not be able to make it to that level

[civic obsidian]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Zone_of_influence#Adjacent.2FNeighboring_nodes this gives a bit of info

the nodes wont all reach max level and with siege it will also change overtime

[low path]

Thankyou! That link answered exactly what I was looking for, along with unlocking the memory of reading that exact statement nearly a year ago lol

[hushed pike]

I think they also delevel

when there is no activity

[vernal swallow]

Node atrophy 👆

[ruby swift]

Nodes from last information given do not delevel due to atrophy. Various node services are deactivated, and at a certain threshold the node resets to zero.

There are intrinsic problems with reducing a nodes level as opposed to removing the node and it may be possible I'm just gonna say now that we don't actually atrophy nodes to delevel but rather accrue atrophy points that must be replenished over time; and if not it begins to disable services and further compound the atrophy problem; at which point when it reaches a certain atrophy point then the node would just disappear.[2] – Steven Sharif

[hushed pike]

oh ok, isn't deleveling better though

because you might not have enough people to maintain a metropolis but maybe enough to maintain a town or a city

[ruby swift]

They looked at deleveling a node and various mechanics like citizenship, housing, and other progression pathways were apparently too difficult or impossible to unravel as part of the system. For a node to atrophy enough, it would be a public decision by a mass of players to abandon that area, since any activity in it or its vassals would still feed it.

[split pilot]

Do they have plans to reward exploration?

[desert ivy]

!wiki exploration

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Exploration

Players will be rewarded for exploring.
We want to put things in the world that are dynamic; so there are reasons to keep going out and keep exploring.
It will be easy to get lost in Ashes of Creation.
It'll be easy for you to get lost in AoC. That is our goal from an exploration standpoint. – Steven Sharif

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Exploration

[still rune]

Where do i post a request/idea regarding the character creator? 🙂

[spiral pine]

On the forums

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/

[still rune]

okies thanks! 🙂

[clear wagon]

If you buy the largest pack, can you play the game now? Or is it closed?

[stable plover]

TL:DR: No - The current largest pack sells A2 access (same access level as pack below that), main chunk of A1 finished recently with A1 spot testing continuing on. It'll probably be several months before Intrepid announces the start date of A2.

[clear wagon]

Okay, I ask why I work right now and having the money I want to make the investment of catching the largest pack in addition to the fact that the current pack has Japanese things and it's cool, or Asian as you want to see it, even knowing that there are possibly months left for that announce the date of A2, I consider it an incredible investment, because if you get what you want to achieve with this game, you are going to be the best mmorpg and the wow killer, besides that I don't think this is a scam for trying to get the most ambitious mmorpg game

i use traductor, i speak spanish xd

[warm patio]

Question: I hate crafting/gathering. Is it possible to participate in everything else the game offers without crafting and gathering? Secondly, will I be at a significant disadvantage for doing so?

[spiral pine]

Yes you can

And maybe

[stable plover]

You'd need to interact with other people who craft unless you were trying to aim for something like an iron man challenge. It'd be a good idea if you sold/traded some crafting mats you say incidentally picked up from dungeons/pvp events to other players. In general ignoring crafting/gathering shouldn't lock you out of content though. Most of the best gear in the game is going to be crafted gear / your gear needs to be repaired by other actual players (or at least through their stalls), so the main disadvantage for ignoring it is economic.

[warm patio]

Will the crafting/gathering system be as much of a nightmare to learn and get good at as say, FFXIV’s?

Or will it be implemented in a way that doesn’t feel obnoxiously tedious?

[slate oyster]

I don't think thats known yet

They haven't shown the system too much yet

[dark jungle]

!wiki artisan classes

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Artisan classes

Artisan classes allow a player to specialize in one or more of the following skill trees.
Gathering
Processing
Crafting Within each of these three artisan classes lies different professions.
Characters within a single account (Alts) may have different professions.
There are profession-specific quests. A character may only master one of the three p...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes

[dark jungle]

they have provided quite a bit of information so far

[slate oyster]

ah ok, my bad

[cyan parrot]

will there be and droplist database?

what mob drops what

that kind of thing

[median yacht]

If there wont be, people will build one anyways, so not a concern to worry about

[oak depot]

Legendary equipment is only dropped by Legendary world bosses.

so yes... some for of drop-tables will exist for sure

[dark jungle]

the wiki has a drop list database for mobs in alpha 1

example

!wiki undying guard

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Undying Guard

Undying Guard is a mob in Ashes of Creation.

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Undying_Guard

[dark jungle]

obviously this will change for alpha 2 and future releases

as the mobs and drop rates change

[cyan parrot]

there are no drops currently, only shards, my question was if there will be an intrepid official drop list 🙂

[desert ivy]

Some mobs drop loot

[stable plover]

I strongly doubt Intrepid would make an official drops list, since it would mess with some of the more secretive stuff like legendary mats early on.

[cyan parrot]

i forgot the node level aspect of things... such like day night and seasons

that makes sense

[crystal beacon]

Can we have a kangadeer as a mount? breeding animal/hunting animal? It's a mix between a deer and a kangaroo

[rigid rose]

@crystal beacon I would recommend posting that on the forums … is a fun idea

The developers have a easier time seeing on forums as it tends to get buried on discord

[deep pawn]

Halloween leeek whennn??

[stable plover]

Probably about Oct 4th-5th or so, give or take

[low path]

quick question, bigger the character model, bigger the hitbox?

[full badger]

@low path

[low path]

thankyou!

[oak knot]

Does anyone have a link for the VoD of Steven's interview with BC giant yesterday? AoC tweeted there would be a link to the vod 6pm yesterday but I'm not seeing anything.

[desert ivy]

It'll be up on BCG's YouTube tomorrow but I don't think you can view it on his Twitch

so you'll have to wait until he uploads to YT

[frank hound]

!wiki classes

[tranquil willow]

!wiki classes

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Classes

Classes are the combination of a primary and a secondary archetype.
We have a specific terminology when referring to archetypes and classes. Classes are the combination of your secondary archetype with your primary archetype. – Steven Sharif

A player chooses their primary archetype at the start of the game. A player cannot change their primary ar...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes

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[tranquil willow]

[frank hound]

Hey guys so I referred a friend to Ashes of Creation and he bought the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack but he didn't enter my referral code. Is there a way to receive that 15% referral rate?

[tranquil willow]

Did this friend of yours enter the referral code when creating their account?

[frank hound]

nope he forgot to...

[tranquil willow]

Ah, I'm sorry then it won't count

[frank hound]

There is no way to add it as one of my referrals at all?

[tranquil willow]

No, sadly. It has to be done while creating the account

But there is one thing you could try. If your friend can get a full refund for the pre order pack, do that and make a new account. Use the referral this time and buy again

[frank hound]

can he refund even though its been a month or so? and will there be a charge onto his account for the refund ?

[tranquil willow]

I'm not sure how long you can refund. But it might be worth a shot

[frank hound]

awesome thanks for letting me know

[clear wagon]

How often do the packs change?

[tranquil willow]

Monthly

The current one lasts until October 6th

[clear wagon]

okey

[oak knot]

Are there any plans to make the purchases page on the website more user friendly? I would love to see some graphics of cosmetics I've purchased maybe with clickable hyperlinks to that months set.

[arctic sky]

They've been overhauling the website in pieces

[gilded sundial]

With the cosmetics, I've been buying the accessory each time but one of my friends pointed out he doesn't cause it looks like it shows up in the full armor set. Is the accessory different then the armor or is it just a way of buying a piece in case you don't want the whole set?

[tranquil willow]

You cannot wear a full costume cosmetic with anything else (including cosmetic accessories). They are separate

[onyx knoll]

They're technically not part of the costumes, they fit a similar theme but they're not the exact same. Take a closer look at the current set, for example. The belt accessory is different then the one on the costume.

And as Gezber says, costumes overwrite your whole gear appearance, you can't mix-match it, where as accessories only cover the slot they're in so you can use a bunch of different ones to make a unique appearance

[gilded sundial]

Alrighty awesome, thank you 🙂

[unreal wraith]

any ice cream or alpha 2 news

[rancid cypress]

Nice murloc costume.

There's currently no news on alpha 2, (I wouldn't expect it this year)

the last development update covered alot of juicy things though, like death and node simulations along with beginning optimisation.

[dense obsidian]

"Players that are not in the same party, raid, alliance, or guild will not be able to see other player's health percentages or exact health bar values" -> Ok that's great, but what about level ? Can we see other players level or it's an hidden information ?

[quick pine]

It's hidden so when you go to attack someone you're willingly taking the risk of one shotting them and gaining corruption

[onyx knoll]

You'll be able to get a general idea through the border of their nameplate, but not an exact number

[ruby swift]

@dense obsidian https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Threat_assessment

[night fossil]

Would you be able to see someone else's class as well or is the idea also to find out once you attack or something?

[tranquil willow]

There will be an icon that displays a player's class

[night fossil]

Sweet thanks I was just wondering

[dreamy skiff]

Probably the primary archetype only tho

[tranquil willow]

The wiki says we will be able to see the "class type and archetype combo" on nameplates, but I'm not sure if that's going to work if they are flagged for PvP

[dreamy skiff]

One icon for every combo? Guess one has to remember all 64

[upbeat comet]

cant wait for this game

[winter cedar]

Question: I love the development updates, especially the character models. I also dabble in 3D printing. Is there any chance a few models could be made available to the community at some point to print, paint, and share their enthusiasm for AoC? Please.

[quick pine]

Should probably wait until the models are finalized

[astral harbor]

is there any news about release date i cant find on google

like 1st qr of 2022 or 2nd

[tight socket]

nope, no release date at this time

[astral harbor]

okay thx

[tacit orbit]

Not 2022

Even 2023 is a pipe dream

[quick pine]

I'll be in a nursing home when beta 2 hits

Ive come to accept that

[loud raft]

Hey no cooking...more time to play 🤪

[marble kraken]

What I want to know is how east coast and west coast people can play together on the same server, or is it time to let go of my old WoW guildmates?

[worn wagon]

servers are not region locked with a few exceptions, so you can play on whatever server you like

[rancid cypress]

Log in at the same time factoring your time zone difference and play together.

[marble kraken]

no i mean just pingtime/lag... some internet providers do not connect well with others. most famously comcast west and ATT east. some games you just have to choose ping over everything else

[lusty kite]

This will depend on a few factors, such as your internet provider, your upload/download speeds, as well as that of your friends/guildmates. AOC will most likely have many regional servers to choose from and you'll be able to see which servers offer you the best ping: "Post launch, users will be able to select their server by the ping or the region that's notated next to the server" As an example, right now I am playing New World with several guildies and while I am located in California, we are playing as a guild on an East Coast server (as we have a good amount of Central and East Coast guildies). I have no lag issues. I would highly imagine AOC will offer the same sort of well located servers

[dreamy harness]

@idle siren do you know by any chance what gpu was used for the 1000 player rendering test in the new dev update video? Just curious.

[opal breach]

id guess they would use the recommend system requirements 🙂

[desert ivy]

Last we knew they had 1080ti in their work machines

but that was a couple years back so maybe they've upgraded

[dreamy harness]

i'm just curious because by the time the game comes out we will likely have 2 more generations of gpu releases

if they're using 1080ti's that's really impressive, a 3090 would crush that test

by the time optimizations are done and game releases we will likely be able to have 1500+ on screen no issues

[soft barn]

Not sure if this was brought up somewhere, but, if player collision is going to be a thing, which it looks like it is, would there be any methods to combating bodyblocking? For instance, a group of players harassing a streamer, mayor, guild leader (or anyone, really) by blocking the entrance to their house, the entrance to the town/city hall, shops, etc.

In Archeage for instance, I remember players would block key bridges with their wagons and there was literally no way around it.

[desert ivy]

There's planned to be physics so you can push people

So if you walk into them you can push past them

[spiral pine]

!wiki player collision

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Collision

There are player and spell collision mechanics in Ashes of Creation.
Inertia and momentum physics will help prevent blocking doorways/access points. This is based on a character's direction and movement speed, and can be used to push people out of the way.

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Collision

[soft barn]

So you're saying if there is a mob of people blocking some door, one should be able to just sprint past them?

[dapper chasm]

u can push people if they r inactive...in order to block someone u need to push against him/her. (pressing the forward button)
If someone is standing somewhere afk u can push him/her aside by just 'bumping' into them.
If there r people actively blocking, u could also 'attack' them (teleport them, hook, knock them down, w/e) since cities rnt save zones and u can fight/flag urself almost everywhere except on ur own Freehold with 'closed door'.

[median kraken]

Is AOC gonna switch to the unreal 5 engine cuz I really hope so it would look amazing and if they do hopefully it will be playable lol

[desert ivy]

They said they're looking into it to see if it's worth it or not

[gilded meteor]

will mass / str stat / speed be taken into account neatly?

[desert ivy]

Are you talking about for the physics collision system?

[gilded meteor]

indeed

[desert ivy]

Movement speed yes, strength they've not said anything about it specifically but I doubt it will play a role

[gilded meteor]

notwithstanding hitbox & friction, there are a few things that makes collisions fun, and once collisions are fun, there are a new whoel range of skills that are relevant

people are not frictionless balls, we have legs, we can push

but I do understand that the ratio complexity to implement / added value for the player might push this towards simple physics

[stable plover]

It's intended that individual players can choose to take up to 70% either tab or action abilities, with some players choosing to be more action based and others choosing to be more tab based. Tab abilities generally posses softer ccs like slows while action abilities have harder CCs like stuns. Current design has camera switch between action/tab modes with a button press (although you can try using either set of abilities in either camera mode). See https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Combat_targeting

They've mentioned damage as being something that will change between action/tab, although I don't think they've said 'higher for action'.

hm, I don't have a ton of experience with LoL specifically, but based on my experience with other MOBAs they kind of use a bit of both - The tab combat is 'guaranteed' to hit, outside of things like built in dodge/parry/block chances, while the action combat ignores the dodge/parry/block chances and just hits as long as you aimed at the right spot (if my understanding is correct). So then one of the big benefits of going full action is you can ignore stats like +hit in favor of other throughput increasing stats in gearing.

[desert ivy]

Tab would be like Viktor Q and Action would be like Lee Sin Q

[turbid stag]

Does somebody know who is translating game to Russian?
I would like to help the people if I can

[stiff hare]

hey guys, is alpha 1 still running?

[tranquil willow]

There are still occasional spot tests, but the main A1 testing period ended

[stiff hare]

oh okay, what about alpha 2? any news on the date?

[tranquil willow]

Nothing yet

[stiff hare]

alright, thankss

[deep pawn]

No idea, but they were looking for CIS moderators if you wanna help out with that.

[onyx knoll]

If you mean for the Wiki, you can contact Lex, who is in charge of it, they're always looking for more people to help with the translations ^^

[turbid stag]

I dont have a time to be a moderator rn.
Thx for info

[turbid stag]

I'm talking about the game but I can help with wiki too

[outer anchor]

whats the recommended graphics card for AOC?

[junior ember]

You can find some information regarding system specifications here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Performance

Though, it is subject to change since we're still in early testing phases!

[outer anchor]

ty!

[crystal beacon]

Hello!

Is it confirmed alpha2 will be persistent, aka "never" shutting down until retail?

[desert ivy]

The last quote we had that was the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if the start of A2 wasn't persistent (that's just a guess tho)

[crystal beacon]

Hmmm, would like to have official confirmation too. But I do hope you're right

[junior ember]

I have not been told or heard that that info has changed! So, yes, Alpha-2 will be persistent 🙂

[crystal beacon]

Just bought

JK no pressure! Did not buy yet (no pressure ahah I know how these things work) but I will probably buy because I really trust the idea!

[junior ember]

Just to make sure you're aware, Alpha-2 is currently not underway. The game is in spot testing and we have not begun Alpha-2 yet! There has been no announcement yet on when Alpha-2 will begin, either. Hope this helps!

[crystal beacon]

Alright, thank you! Keep on doing what you're doing best 🙂

Also another question: there's currently no way to board alpha1 testing phases is there? Couldn't find any @junior ember

[junior ember]

Because the Alpha-1 test phase has concluded, there is not a way to join it, so it was removed as an option from our website! We will have to wait patiently for Alpha-2. Keep an eye on our socials as well in case we announce any spot testing that could be joined. 🙂 Lmk if this didn't answer your question

So, here is a quote I found on where we are at at the moment "In the meantime, we will continue periodic spot testing with our testers who have Alpha One keys as needed until we transition to the Alpha Two testing phase."

This is from the support article on testing dates: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016315013-What-are-the-Alpha-Beta-Release-dates-

[crystal beacon]

Ahhh!! I thought alpha1 was a group, not just a test phase, and more tests in alpha1 would ensue. I assume all alpha1 players are also in alpha2 and beta1 and 2? But I think you did answer me already!

[junior ember]

I updated my recent response with a little more and clearer info. So, to be clear, spot testing is only for Alpha-1 testers up until Alpha-2 releases (to which there is no date)

[crystal beacon]

Ok, thank you!! So to sum up, alpha2 can be purchased rn while alpha1 spots are not available right now and in the foreseeable future

[junior ember]

Correct 🙂

[crystal beacon]

Alright, thank you so very much!! :b

[crystal beacon]

Does anyone know what October's stuff is going to be for buying

Like the cosmetics

[arctic sky]

They switch over Oct 6

Anything before is a leak

Though mostly we get at least a day or so

[crystal beacon]

Thank-you, where do I find any of the leaks?

Hi are there more languages going to add in?

[worn wagon]

There'll be German, French and Russian localization at launch. Italian, Polish and Spanish are also planned

[stable plover]

Intrepid might leak an individual item here and there in random places, but as a group the new cosmetics will go up in a post in #news sometime before the switch, which is on Oct 6th.

[crystal beacon]

thank u, i was hoping they add chinese in it, and I understand why some of the games dont want to or no need to

[ruby swift]

@crystal beacon

[sleek cipher]

who deals more dmg? fighter or rogue

[tight socket]

neither are in the game right now, never mind balance isnt even close to final form. so right now, neither

[sleek cipher]

yea, im just wondering if steven said something aboutr that before

about goal of those classes

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki search results

1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Rogue#Rogue_classes>

...Rogue is an archetype in Ashes of Creation. The rogue is more physical disable oriented: Applying bleeds or snares or having precision damage that's situational...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Archetypes#Rogue>

...else has such a keen eye in natural environments. Rogue is an archetype in Ashes of Creation. The rogue is more physical disable oriented: Applying bleeds...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Stealth>

...Rogue ability: There will be counter-stealth mechanics for sure. That's just a natural balancing act of stealth. But additionally with regards to you know...

[dire pond]

In the lore, Rogues have more dps

[sleek cipher]

thanks!

[quick whale]

Is there any chances we get swappable archetype on one character instead of having to level multiple alt for different archetype?

[tight socket]

you can swap your secondary archetype but not primary

[north topaz]

everybody asks what the devs doin, but nobody asks How the devs doin?

[tacit orbit]

how the devs be doing

[deep pawn]

...

Why the devs doing?

[crystal beacon]

@stable plover thank you

[unreal zealot]

did we get any sneak peaks at next months cosmetics?

[spiral pine]

not yet

[dapper chasm]

since they get swapped on 6th u can expect to see the next pack on 4th or 5th.

[rancid cypress]

Question about name reservation, are we only able to reserve the one name? If so will there be an option to purchase more?
Is there also going to be a guild name reservation?

[desert ivy]

Only 1 name, never been said we'll be able to purchase more

Guild name reservations were exclusive to Braver of Worlds Kickstarter backers

[dire pond]

What about server reservation?

[dark jungle]

!wiki server reservations

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Server reservations

Server reservations allow guild members as well as unaffiliated players to reserve character slots on a server starting in the Beta testing stages of the game.
This would likely be utilized more so by guilds than that would be solo or unaffiliated players; and I believe that the solo player they may have friends that they want to play with. That's...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Server_reservations

[dire pond]

Ty

[crystal beacon]

Can the (digital) entry to the Glorious Gourd contest be in an animated from (mp4, gif, etc.) if it doesn't break any rules?

[spiral pine]

@plucky pawn ^

[quick pine]

When does the next cosmetic bundle come out?

[desert ivy]

6th October

[rancid cypress]

On the 6th

[desert ivy]

We'll probably get a preview on the 5th

[quick pine]

Alright

[plucky pawn]

I will check to see if we can clarify this further for you 😄

[stable lichen]

Any ETA for Alpha II yet?

[spiral pine]

Nope

Just several months downtime

[crystal beacon]

Next month.
Source: copium.com

[stable lichen]

thanks

[onyx knoll]

No dates

[plucky pawn]

please only submit a still image (no videos) for any physical or digital submission entry - will see if we can get that clarified in a few other places as well ty for checking!

[crystal beacon]

@ruby swift I was asking about languages, not the server. Thank u👍

[slate yarrow]

Can you enter the Glorious Gourd contest if you're from Aus? It only says North America and the European Union in the information provided. 🎃

[zinc knoll]

Will this game feature a global auction house system, or will it be regionally based per city? I really couldn't find much on trade and I'd be particularly interested if it featured a similar vendor system to Ultima Online.

[ruby swift]

Local

[stable plover]

Trade is localized with no global AH. Economic node metropolises can get access to an AH that covers about 1/5th of the world if an economic metropolis exists. There's no way to mail/teleport items. Gathering mats have weight and are meant to be brought back to deposit locations that you can use to launch caravans with much higher quantities of mats for long distance transportation. There are player stalls (that you can set an NPC at when your not there), and player housing can double as player businesses

[ruby swift]

With some mechanics caveats. But a true server linked AH no

[zinc knoll]

That's incredible news.

Im also curious about the housing system. Have the devs disclosed whether it's deed based, or locked to character? It'd be neat seeing realty as a side component to the games economy.

[stable plover]

You can sell your home to other players, The housing is limited to 1 freehold and 1 in node housing per account and 1 apartment per server. So your characters end up needing to share housing (unless you deliberately split it to one type per char for 3 chars). Housing locations can be lost if the node their at is destroyed in a siege, but you get a blueprint to reset up somewhere else that stores things like decoration layout.

[zinc knoll]

Fantastic. I can finally walk away from 90s mmo's at last. Thank you much for answering my questions. 🙂

[stable plover]

Ashesofcreation.wiki - Great source for info btw with pages like https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Real_estate

[zinc knoll]

Bookmarking. 👍

[stable plover]

I'm going to guess the answer is no, should confirm with @plucky pawn though. From a quick read through of Australian contest law on my part as someone who is definitely not a lawyer, it's possible Intrepid would have needed to acquire permits to include Australia.

[real jolt]

I'm from Aus and I just submitted my entry doesn't matter if I'm not eligible it was good fun regardless 😄 alpha 2 is all i'm after though i'd be happy to pay shipping for anything else.

[dire pond]

Can an Intrepid account have 2 Alpha 2 key ?

[median yacht]

!alpha1

[crystal beacon]

Does the digital entry need to fit exactly in the lines provided by the template, or can it have ~95% accuracy? (the template will be put on top of that to make sure that no lines were obstructed/modified in any way)

[stable plover]

"You may color... outside the lines" so I guess what your describing is fine. Make sure the template isn't resized/cropped when you put it back on top.

[onyx knoll]

As long as the unaltered template is on top, then you should be good, you can color anywhere on the page 🙂

[gray crypt]

So adding extra lines is also fine, as long as they dont obstruct nor modify the original template?

[crystal beacon]

one more question, can I add more empty space on the sides of the template, or the size/proportions need to be unchanged?

like this

[onyx knoll]

No, don't change the template at all, that includes the format of the image itself

[crystal beacon]

ok

[onyx knoll]

that's right, as you can see in one of the examples they showed where someone added extra characters in the background. You could go for a more stylized style that adds bold lines, as long as the template is still clearly visible ^^

[gray crypt]

great! thanks

[crystal beacon]

Why not make corrupted people lose corruption when they kill other corrupted people? Wouldn't that be an interesting mechanic?

[civic obsidian]

That would be way too exploitable

[gusty vector]

^^

[quick pine]

That would also remove my job

[grave thorn]

1.If mounts have skills, will these skills upgrade as my char levels up or will this skill capped on same level entire game?
2. If it upgrades, will it be tied to characters level or will mounts have their own leveling system?

[spiral pine]

!wiki husbandry

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki search results

1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts#Animal_husbandry>

...Animal husbandry profession. Animal husbandry will be an exploritative profession. Many animals that can be tamed and bred through the animal husbandry profession...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pets>

...animal husbandry may be sold at auction. These mounts can also be applied as certificates toward the construction of caravans. Animal husbandry and taming...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry>

...Animal husbandry profession. Animal husbandry will be an exploritative profession. Many animals that can be tamed and bred through the animal husbandry profession...

[rancid hare]

how can i get to play this game before it release?

[dark jungle]

Buy an alpha 2 pack

[vernal swallow]

What they mean when they said "no box cost"?

[full badger]

So unlike in WoW where you have to pay for the game AND then the subscription on top, in Ashes you will just pay for the subscription

[vernal swallow]

Will Ashes of Creation have quarterly or yearly subscription model at a discounted price?

[full badger]

Afaik there will only be a standard monthly subscription

[rancid hare]

ok when i have the money need to lern how i can buy it and from were the alpha pac

tanks for info

[full badger]

@rancid hare you can buy a pre-order pack from the webstore https://ashesofcreation.com/shop

[rancid hare]

yes i so how now tanks a lot

[grave thorn]

I read this but there is nothing written about mount skills tied to players level, which got me curious if it's skills is tied to player level or do mounts have separate leveling system

[tranquil willow]

All the info we have on this is here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts#Mount_abilities_and_stats

[dire dock]

Is there an update yet about name reservations?

[desert ivy]

Nope

[grave thorn]

This just says that they have skills, it doesn't say if mount skill upgrade through leveling, so DO THEY UPGRADE OR LVL UP THROUGH LEVELING AND IF THEY DO IS IT TIED TO PLAYERS LEVEL OR MOUNTS HAVE SEPARATE LEVELING SYSTEM?

[desert ivy]

Mounts will be separate

[tranquil willow]

Like I said, all the info we HAVE is in there. If it's not there, we don't know yet

[full badger]

That would be a good question to ask for the next dev livestream Q&A

[tulip lark]

any information about the new cosmetic yet?

[spiral pine]

Nope

[obtuse mesa]

Is it possible to enter a Gourt I created for last years contest, which has been disqualified because it has been posted outside the rules?

[spiral pine]

if it follows the rules and theme now i dont see why not

[shadow karma]

when does the next cosmetic pack come out for the month?

[tranquil willow]

On the 6th

[regal wing]

will the cosmetic be more or = to what we get from adventuring in the game?

i mean more good looking

[tranquil willow]

High level in game cosmetics will be on par or even better than cash shop ones - their promise

[regal wing]

ah nice so i dont need to buy but i will cuz i support the devs

[desert ivy]

Basically the standard end-game gear will probably be similar to the cash shop stuff, but there will be legendary armour and cosmetics that you can earn in-game that look "better"

[quick pine]

Cash shop stuff just has a unique color

[feral swallow]

And there are dyes anyway

[spiral pine]

!wiki dyes

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Dyes

Dyes in Ashes of Creation may refer to:

Cosmetic items used to customize armor color.
Materials used in crafting. Dyes are craftable.

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Dyes

[regal wing]

what is the estimate of the alpha 2?

i am counting the milliseconds for this game

i am sorry for over hyping the game tho

will there be a system for a shipyard and sea monsters, quests and professions for it?

[desert ivy]

Not until sometime next year

We don't know exactly when it will be though

[rancid cypress]

When's next year?

[desert ivy]

People in the community generally guess not before mid next year

There may be "pre-alpha 2" testing though similar to how alpha 1 had pre-alpha 1 testing

[regal wing]

so the game might come mid 2023

lets hope for the best

[velvet stirrup]

yikes

what do i play until then

[regal wing]

league, ffxiv you have poe netflix

thats all

[velvet stirrup]

i feel suicidal when playing league

[regal wing]

me 2 but cant cuz i wana climb out of bronze until then

[regal wing]

please tell me that the weapons are big and i can dw them also please tell me you wont give us a big weapon then we grip on the top of the handle

cuz i love big weapon and handle it like a viking

[desert ivy]

There won't be oversized/comically big weapons

Same as there won't be massive oversized shoulderpads

[regal wing]

but will there be a dw weapons

[desert ivy]

You can dual wield 1h weapons

[regal wing]

even if i am a tank?

[desert ivy]

They don't plan on letting you dw 2h weapons

Your archetype doesn't dictate what weapons you can use

you can be a Tank and wield a Wand if you want

[regal wing]

nice

[desert ivy]

Now you probably won't be efficient when doing it, but you can

[regal wing]

i want to

so i will

the freedom of weapon chose and not grabbing your hand to a weapon is so refreshing

i want to do the most unmeta build ever and make it work

[runic valve]

does the a o c shop reset on the first of every month?

[desert elm]

No, but they will give a week or so notice before the packs change

[runic valve]

where does that notice get posted?

[arctic sky]

The previous months cosmetic post in the news channel says when it switches out

[quick pine]

so eager to see this years spooky set

[sand ether]

When is the full version of the game coming out so we can play? The PVP version is horrible.

[desert ivy]

You posted a few weeks ago

I think you're confusing this game with something else

[spiral pine]

Read what Talents said^

[stiff chasm]

Hi, If I buy 500$ packages will i be able to access the game under "Alpha-1 intermittent spot testing." ?

[spiral pine]

No because that is not sold anymore

[stiff chasm]

I see, Thank you 🙂

[sand ether]

No I am not. I was part of the Kickstarter. This game was not supposed to be fully PVP or I would never have bought in to it.

[spiral pine]

Its not exactly "fully" pvp

But pvp has always been a big part of the game

And also there will be no "version" without pvp

[desert ivy]

@sand ether Probably time to cut your losses. Steven's favourite MMORPGs have heavy PvP presence like Lineage 2 and ArcheAge. This probably isn't the game for you

[quick pine]

Bah if someone's griefing you in this game you can just hire a bounty hunter to grief them right back

[feral swallow]

Plus if they die they lose all their gear anyway and you don't gotta worry about em nearly as much. Unless they changed how the death loot drop system worked. I haven't looked in a while

[stable plover]

*some of their gear, depending on how corrupt they are

[feral swallow]

Alright phwoo

I wasn't sure if it was changed or not

[oak garnet]

I do not know where to apply, so I am writing here. You can create a section for the Russian community, it is not enough .. Thanks in advance

[dapper chasm]

There is a Russian section... #aoc-обсуждение #aoc-чат-гильдий #обсуждение and so on...

[vernal urchin]

mid 2024

and i know that cuz i am big brain

[crystal beacon]

😔

[vernal urchin]

its sad but its also the truth

[true finch]

any cosmetic leaks yet ?

[spiral pine]

Nope

[azure birch]

[feral swallow]

Wasn't the cosmetic pack the blue and black glowy stuff?

[onyx knoll]

We did have a black/blue glowy themed pack on october 2020, but packs don't return so this month's will be different 🙂

[crystal beacon]

So, hi, I cant find anything regarding the new cosmetics

Would you happen to know where they will announce them before 6th of October

[spiral pine]

Here

In the #news channel

[crystal beacon]

Thanks

[feral swallow]

Ah, I thought that was this year's. Thanks for clarifying

[quick whale]

Is it 1-2 day prior to the monthly change that we can have a preview usually?

[worn wagon]

Usually about 24 hours before

[quick whale]

Thanks!

[crystal beacon]

anyone know the updated roadmap on when release for full game is?

[plucky pawn]

We haven't shared any details on upcoming testing or release dates at this time!

[crystal beacon]

@plucky pawn thank you. is there rough answer? like year wise? or kinda keeping it all on the DL?

[plucky pawn]

Nothing has been shared at this time 😄

[crystal beacon]

thanks

[deep pawn]

Can guild members, or citizens of the same node attack/kill each other?

[quick pine]

I'd imagine they could

[deep pawn]

I was told they couldn't, was hoping to get an official answer to set things straight

[onyx knoll]

In some situations, yes. The only people you can't attack/kill are players in your party/raid

But let's say you're a citizen of a node, and that node gets sieged by an other one, your guild affiliations in that scenario are thrown out the window and your citizenship takes priority, so if you happen to have guildmates that are citizens of that other node then during the siege you could face off against each other

[crystal beacon]

I don't understand something: if vassal nodes can't be at war with master nodes (correct?) then how are vassal nodes expected to overthrow their superior master nodes (locking vassal nodes progression)

[deep pawn]

Whaa, u sure? Afaik guild takes priority

[worn wagon]

Citizenship has the highest priority

[worn wagon]

Vassals nodes can't attack their parent nodes, correct. So in order to level up, another non-vassal node would have to attack the parent node and de-level it

[crystal beacon]

Why would vassal nodes be motivated to defend the parent node

If the "master node" is what's impeding the vassal node from progressing there must be a system for the vassal node to directly de-level the master node

Since they are in direct conflict

[strange zealot]

vassal : Rebel mode

could be a thing ?

[crystal beacon]

IMO vassals should be able to attack master nodes

But there should be nuances

Because both "in real life" and "in game sense" it's logical you can attack a player / group of players

But there should be logical nuances to this

So that vassals don't just gang up on the master nodes

[strange zealot]

conditions that the master node has to uphold, and if not, it opens up a door for war/attacks from vassals

[crystal beacon]

I don't know if I'm allowed to ping steven but this is a first time anyways @idle siren 😬

[feral swallow]

I wouldn't recommend that

[crystal beacon]

Yeah I bet steven gets pings left and right from many uhh passionate players with sometimes good but often terrible ideas

[crystal beacon]

Pinging steven or the idea we were discussing

[feral swallow]

Pinging steven

[crystal beacon]

Well I won't remove it now since he will get the red ping anyway but apologies steven won't happen again 👼

[strange zealot]

i think there should be different possibilities (deals) from master to vassal and from vassal to master. to be uphold, to keep the status working ? perhaps ?

[crystal beacon]

Too complex imo @strange zealot

[strange zealot]

like master city buildings / trade deals per day or month

[crystal beacon]

Those agreements work better when they are non binding and it means the game makes sense by its own

Instead of having an UI button that says "Node: peace mode" you should have reasons for the node NOT to attack you

[strange zealot]

yea but having an option to just one click war, means people do it all the time

[crystal beacon]

Not if the game gives them reason not to

[strange zealot]

that i ment by the deals

bonuses / profits

automatic rolling conditions

[crystal beacon]

If you were a vassal node WHY would you not want your master node overthrown? And why would you want your master node overthrown?

[strange zealot]

why would you

[crystal beacon]

To level up

Your node

[strange zealot]

but you can use your masters buildings

etc

[crystal beacon]

But normally it's in the interest of the locals to have their nodes be the ones up in game theory, not neighbours

[strange zealot]

and being a vassal that contributes, surely will have bonuses to people living in the vassal city

[crystal beacon]

What could happen is, other vassals could protect their master from rebellious vassal nodes @strange zealot

This could happen from promises made from masters

For example

Reducing tax rate

[strange zealot]

better caravan income

[crystal beacon]

Allowing master nodes to selectively lock some node progressions

Now that would be intelligent

[crystal beacon]

Yeah

If those happened, vassals would want to keep their masters

[strange zealot]

that i ment, having a scroll of edicts from master to vassal (that the master city king can select)

[crystal beacon]

But the idea of vassals not being able to attack their masters is very weird and what will happen is basically they will ALWAYS have to ask unrelated nodes to the conflict to attack their masters SO they can level up

This is an interesting scheme mechanic, BUT should not be the only possibility to delevel a node

[strange zealot]

no

it means you move to the enemy town and attack the masters you do not like

and live with the "master" you like

[crystal beacon]

... but that's the problem, those enemies are not your masters

[strange zealot]

they are if you live in their city

[crystal beacon]

Because vassal nodes can't attack masters as it is

[crystal beacon]

But then you couldn't attack them

[strange zealot]

living in a city, automatically makes you part of the node

[crystal beacon]

That's the problem

It is illogical to say the only way you can attack a node is to move to an enemy's node

Makes no sense

[strange zealot]

feudal times, weak cities always bent the knee to the stronger ones.

[crystal beacon]

People are supposed to stick to a node if they want because they build their story there

[crystal beacon]

No, they chose to

Many didn't and rebelled, and some were lucky others weren't

[strange zealot]

they licked the masters and kissed the pinky ring

[crystal beacon]

This game mechanic is illogical, and it's made as a way to avoid exploits but this game has potential to do way better

[strange zealot]

they never attacked a master/king solo, as they knew they would perish

[crystal beacon]

You know this is not true

Never use "never" in history, as that never is maybe about 60% of everything that happened in history

Rebellions happened all the time

If not against "masters" it was against the vassals themselves

[strange zealot]

yes and that is why i said, vassals has to have a rebellion button

[crystal beacon]

And then we go back to the "button" problem

[strange zealot]

well its a game

keyboard and games has buttons

[crystal beacon]

Vassals should be able to attack masters and if the game can pull that out good

[strange zealot]

i dont agree that they should have a direct backstab option without parameters

[crystal beacon]

They should have no reasons to backstab

[plucky pawn]

Hello my friends - let's please bring discussion on down to our discussion channels, as we are now out of the realm of questions!

[strange zealot]

there would have to be a third party alliance for a combined war vs master, to be able to activate Rebellion

ahh true

sorry

[main current]

nvm i found it

[trail nimbus]

Is there any location where all the screenshots have gone from the discord thread for alpha 1? Wanted to use some of those in a post for comparison to NW and design thoughts for aoc environment art but guessing they are lost to time. ( I should have taken loads of screenshots when I was in a1.... rip)

[frail gazelle]

will there be cat girls?

[worn wagon]

nope

[worn wagon]

that channel has been hidden to prepare for the upcoming spot tests. Maybe some folks can DM you some pictures

[grave dune]

is there a possibility that we get a Scythe as a weapon?

[desert ivy]

There won't be a specific "Scythe" category, but there might be Scythe weapons in the polearm category

[errant chasm]

any update on the October supporter pack?

[rancid cypress]

[dapper chasm]

Its 4 am for IS, most of them r still asleep...

[serene dock]

Has there been any indication of a potential free trial in Ashes akin to that of WoW or FFXIV?

[lusty kite]

no, that is not planned, nor been mentioned at this time

[serene dock]

Unfortunate but understandable, thanks

[eternal juniper]

It’s a $15 trial price

[quick pine]

Thought it was only sub fee, no purchase fee

[onyx knoll]

That's correct, 15$ is the price of one month, so that would be all you need to pay to try the game out

[worthy salmon]

whats the reasoning behind a sub fee only model? seems like an outdated payment model, isnt buy once and play whenever you want more popular? like GW2, ESO and New World

[desert ivy]

Steven prefers it over B2P is the reason

[worthy salmon]

so just preference? no "this is why" reason?

[desert ivy]

This is his reason

It's important to remember, Ashes is a NO-BOX COST subscription only game, with an optional cosmetic marketplace. This achieves a few things from a monetization model. Having a lower barrier to entry for players to try the game when they don't have to fork out $60 for the box price is good, our box price is 0$. This also places an emphasis on the game's retention and our continual updates and content creation to keep players playing and staying subscribed (a put your money where your mouth is sort of philosophy for us as a company). It also means players don't have to spend $60 everytime there is an expansion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/kze8fc/misconception_about_monthly_cosmetics/gjrayks/?context=3

[civic obsidian]

and the 2 most popular mmos are still sub only, ffxiv and wow

[worthy salmon]

thank you for the source

[tight socket]

Wow and ffxiv both have box cost too

[civic obsidian]

yeah on top of it

[worthy salmon]

isnt ff14 free tho until the latest exp?

[tight socket]

nope, free trial only includes the HW expansion

[worthy salmon]

ah ok

[oak knot]

Anyone know if there's been any interviews or dev updates regarding music in alpha 2? I love the ashes theme but I really hope it's not the same thing on loop next alpha.

[desert ivy]

Only thing Steven has said is that we'll hear some of Bear McCreary's music in alpha 2

The current "Ashes theme" will eventually be phased out since it's not official Ashes music

[marble escarp]

Will there be large wide brim wizard hats? Asking for a friend

[spiral pine]

Yes

[marble escarp]

We're talking brim wider than the shoulders, by like atleast 6 inches

[spiral pine]

Thats stupid

[marble escarp]

This man has no vision

[cerulean atlas]

will players have the ability to have ashes music on a in game playlist for rp purposes?

[fringe imp]

Hello, have two dumb question if anyone would be patient with me

I went to the website to get the game since I was waiting for a skin that appeals to my taste and I can't see the skins from the announcement

did I miss something

[desert ivy]

They release tomorrow at 11am PST

[fringe imp]

I see, thank you

[plucky pawn]

as noted in the announcement message, the swapover happens tomorrow 😄 we just give you a preview in advance as a last reminder!

[fringe imp]

kinda lost it when I saw the armour XD

[oak knot]

Just wanted to say thank you for being so diligent and answering so many questions people have about AoC. Since this is the questions channel... how do you feel about being so awesome?

[night fossil]

Capes are a back piece right so there optional? Also would something else be able to be put on your back instead of a Cape? And armors shown with capes would they look weird without their corresponding capes? (Yeah you guessed it I don't really fancy capes)

[dark jungle]

You can turn off the cape in your UI settings

[desert elm]

I may have missed it, but can we change the colors (by dying, enchanting, etc) of these cosmetics? I love these new ones, but hate the color yellow… so can we change the flames to blue, for instance, maybesomehowplease?

[onyx knoll]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Dyes#Dyeable_items

tldr: maybe, you probably won't know if that specific set/color is dyeable until the game is out, though :/

[crystal beacon]

For applying to work for intrepid studios is it better to apply directly on your website or apply on linkedin? Very silly question, just want to see the preference and have a good shot at working with you!

[quick pine]

Do both, makes you look more motivated

[tight socket]

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[desert elm]

Yeah, thanks, but it only talks about dyes, which I would assume means materials like leather/metal, and even that is very tentative. I was curious more about the yellow flames on the new cosmetics, as I would be much more apt to buy it if they were blue or even white instead.

[plucky pawn]

I would recommend directly through the website whenever possible 😄 sometimes the ones on LinkedIN are posted by third party scrapers, rather than us.

[onyx knoll]

Dyes are the only way we know of at this time to change the color of a cosmetic. It's unknown if SFX will be dyeable

[desert elm]

Thanks. Guess I will just keep waiting for Tulnar sets, or more details on dyes and such.

[sly lynx]

Just submitted an exchange/refund ticket. I bought the $375 Wayfarer Pack last month, but absolutely hate the aesthetics of the current one in the store. I had no idea they rotated.
Really digging this new series/theme shown on the most recent news article.

[gusty vector]

[lucid mauve]

Probably a silly question or one that’s been answered before - I backed the Kickstarter years ago - I logged into my account on the AoC website and under my order history I can see a dollar number - where can I actually see what I’ve bought? (game/backer benefits etc)

[plucky pawn]

If you're within the refund window still, our team will be able to assist you with that - as a note though, once you own a pack you are able to grab each of the cosmetics in future packs individually as you wish!

[plucky pawn]

You should be able to see those in your Inventory 😄

[sly lynx]

Yeah but I am paying $375. I really don't like the cosmetics in the pack I have now, so I am not gaining much reward for backing early and for such high cost

[lucid mauve]

Ahh thanks! Much appreciated - I assume if I buy this new upcoming cosmetic it will add to my inventory?

[plucky pawn]

correct!

[sly lynx]

What is the window? 30 days?

[lucid mauve]

Thanks again - what do they normally cost?

[desert ivy]

90

[sly lynx]

Thanks. It has only been 26 days so I am definitely good there ha.

[plucky pawn]

more recently it was updated to 90, yes: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018517854-What-is-the-refund-policy-

[open girder]

Btw, is there any ingame screenshots of each cosmetic items you sells?

[plucky pawn]

5/15/20/25/25/25 for accessory/pet/mount/cosmetic/transport/building

[plucky pawn]

typically we show them off during our monthly development update live streams as they get placed in-game 😄

[lucid mauve]

Thanks!! I’ll buy some or all when they are released

[sly lynx]

Can y'all just exchange the pack with the new cosmetics for this month? Or will I need a refund to rebuy it manually? I already included both options in the support ticket, with the former being ideal. Just wanted to know what I can expect.

[open girder]

so they just not updated shop with screens ... ?

[plucky pawn]

That would be something our support team would have to let you know, but likely it would be refunding the old purchase to make a new one as you wished.

[sly lynx]

You have been very helpful and attentive. Thank you.

[plucky pawn]

while they're in the shop, they're typically all in the same style of art for consistency purposes 😄 usually the in-game versions are shared in later months, when the shop has already changed over

[open girder]

ok... ty

[winged sail]

When we get new races will there be townships or regions of the map that fit their culture better then the ones we saw in A1?

[plucky pawn]

during Alpha One testing the only variants of nodes that were available were Kaelar, Empyrean, and Dünir - as more races get implemented, you'll start to see their influence in nodes when they level up as well

[latent perch]

For feedback purposes, what place is the best to leave that at? The forums, Discord, YouTube? Just want to know cause I have so many ideas for evergreen content...

[arctic sky]

Forums

[plucky pawn]

for longer-form and more long-lasting feedback, yes forums are definitely the place to go!

[latent perch]

Thank you! I'm on the forums now typing my suggestion now.

[latent perch]

TY!

[plucky pawn]

earlier they were asking about "ingame screenshots of each cosmetic" so I assumed it was an addendum to that 😄

[onyx cairn]

If we were to buy a pre-order package but later one came out with cosmetics that we liked better would there be any way to change to the new one?

[desert ivy]

You can refund the pack within 90 days of buying it

but if a pack came out after those 90 days then no

[onyx cairn]

ah cool thank you

[teal saffron]

are weapon clipping through armor or capes being like addressed or like have been talked about

??

[onyx cairn]

i assume so
in the dev updates they always say how theres stuff to improve on a bit
and by the time the game comes out i expect itll be pretty polished

[arctic sky]

Also once you buy a pack you can buy the cosmetics individually

[onyx cairn]

oh cool thanks

[spiral pine]

!wiki clipping

[tender hearth]

No matching results. Try something else.

[arctic sky]

Yes it has but it's not a high priority

Right now they are making sure their systems don't break things

[spiral pine]

Heck i know there is a quote out there for clipping and such

[arctic sky]

Then they will work on the things like clipping

[teal saffron]

i was wondering cause i hate that shit so much lmao other mmo ive like not bought cosmetics cause of it

like monster hunter

[arctic sky]

No game will be perfect with it but the plan is to address it eventually

[teal saffron]

theres been no word of the Tulnar also right?

[arctic sky]

Nope nothing that isn't on the wiki

[teal saffron]

oh yeah ik def im not being a hard ass on it i was just curious

[onyx cairn]

there doesnt happen to be a way for someone to give their alpha key to another account is there?

[spiral pine]

Nope

[onyx cairn]

rip
cause i know someone who has alpha but doesnt wanna play til beta anymore

[crystal beacon]

Why

[onyx cairn]

to do with time
and they want the more-or-less closer to full release version when they try it

we've been waiting for the game since it's announcement they got the pack a while ago
plans change i spose

[fringe imp]

does the game time get consumed during the alpha and beta ?

[desert ivy]

No

[fringe imp]

that's a relief, thank you once again

[woven vale]

Do we have any news about who the new lead game designer is or anything about that?

[arctic sky]

Last news was dev stream I believe and Steven is still interviewing for the perfect person