thank you in advance
#questions
golden lintel
full badger
Hmm I don't believe we've been told either way. That would be a good question to ask for the next dev livestream
proven crystal
Will equipment have stats that augment abilities similar to Diablo(+15% ability name here damage)
brave swift
!wiki religion
tender hearthBOT
brave swift
nice shortcut for me
keen mist
A combined question on Tax that I couldn't find the answers to. Will the Leaders of Organisations/Guilds/Religions/Kingdoms have the option NOT to pay taxes within their respective areas?
(If a Mayor can set tax rates then can they go full Kim Jong Un and give themselves a 0% tax rate?)
I would lean to expect that Mayors and Guild leaders wouldn't have this option, but the others are intriguing
tender hearthBOT
full badger
Also just a note, there's no need to refer to real life political figures when asking your questions, thanks 🙂
feral hamlet
in an economic node, what would stop a player with the most finances to occupy the mayoral position and essentially griefing the whole node?
full badger
Nothing
Except if they did, the players in that node would leave, and the node wouldn't get enough resources to stay at the correct level. Or it will get sieged and be destroyed
feral hamlet
it does seem to give the freedom for extremely rich players to go around nodes, win elections and destroy whole masses of nodes on which other players have invested a lot of time in
molten nebula
The players could just revoke their citizenship and go to a new node
Or could grief the mayor for being a tyrant
woven vale
Or players could work together making sure their candidate beats the other
arctic swift
Remember remember the fifth of november...
molten nebula
I wonder what happens if all citizens in a node revoke their citizenship except the mayor
molten nebula
lol true
mild goblet
So I bought in at the 250$ level, I know the roadmap exists but I just wanted a confimation here on whether that gives me access to the non nda Alpha test?
full badger
The $250 pack gives you access to Alpha 2, which we currently don't have a date for yet, but the NDA will be lifted before Alpha 2 starts
^ More info here ^
mild goblet
Cool cool, so will that be like an email link they send to get me in? Do I need to DL a client in preperation?
full badger
When it's your time to test you'll receive an email with instructions
mild goblet
Awesome thanks, just wanted to make sure I had all the steps done on my end. I have to say, I'm super hyped for this. I played WoW when I was 12 when it first came out and I knew I was playing something that was gonna be huge, I'm excited to get the oppurtunity to play something of a similar scale in the prime of my life. 🙂
Oh yeah, I will be Livestreaming my gameplay is there anyone specific I should be in contact with about that?
full badger
Once the NDA is lifted you can stream no problem at all (following usual fair use guidelines of course). There is an Official Content Creator program for Ashes but it's not active right now while it's being revamped. Keep an eye out on more information for when they open up for applications again.
desert ivy
A2 isn't coming out for like a year at this rate, so there'll be plenty of people streaming before then
mild goblet
Awesome, is there any plans to work with charities or charitable orginizations in the future? As a disabled streamer I like knowing the games I play have a community oriented mentality.
desert ivy
Every November they do a charity livestream where they donate the money to charity. The one last November raised like $70k or so I think
For Extra Life
full badger
@mild goblet https://youtu.be/YqhHWkGij9Y
Got a nice recap of last year's extralife stream
blissful hill
Just recently got interested in aoc what do I have to do to get into the alpha servers?
woven vale
Just recently got interested in aoc what do I have to do to get into the alpha s...
As of now it is impossible to get into A1
desert ivy
Alpha 2 is currently buyable on the store, but we don't have any dates for when Alpha 2 starts. Alpha 1 pre-tests are on February 19th, March 19th, and April 6th - May 6th. Alpha 1 can no longer be bought in to, but they may bring it back in the future.
woven vale
You can purchase A2 but we don't know when that testing will happen
blissful hill
How is A2 buy in?
full badger
How is A2 buy in?
You can gain access to Alpha 2 by purchasing either the $250 or $375 pre-order packs on the Intrepid website
blissful hill
Nice I’m hoping this game will be awesome I’m getting tired of WoW
full badger
👍
ruby swift
Except if they did, the players in that node would leave, and the node wouldn't ...
Remember the mechanic on that has changed. It is not stay at the right level. It is atrophy and go to zero now.
In one go.
quaint coral
Oh, so the nodes deteriorate entirely if they're not maintained? Interesting.
ruby swift
Correct, the original plan was for them to go down a level, but that apparently caused too many issues. So they have now decided that once it reaches a certain level of atrophy....poof.
quaint coral
Ah, do we know what prevents/removes the atrophy? Would be unfortunate if you get enough bad neighbors that your entire home is wiped.
Then again, all the more reason to move shrug
ruby swift
Any action taken in the node generates "food" for the node. If people stop playing there, then they lose the assets in that node. It is not a fast or immediate process, people would know.
quaint coral
Sounds reasonable, thanks!
More or less just a node cleanser then if pop starts to be a big issue
ruby swift
Higher level nodes require higher "daily calorie intake" to keep their fighting figure.
rose wind
A successful Node Siege will also completely destroy the Node
ruby swift
Yep
quaint coral
Yeah, but that I expected.
rose wind
Reverting it fully back to level 0
quaint coral
I hadn't heard of the node feeding system (though I admit I do like the idea of having to take care of your home, adds more to the "this place has meaning" concept)
ruby swift
rose wind
It is as you say just a means of cleaning out Nodes that don't have a playerbase any more
So you don't have ghost towns littered everywhere
ruby swift
Yes, that is the intention. Active hubs, no "starter zones" that people abandon for "endgame zones" that sit there that no one visits.
There are intrinsic problems with reducing a nodes level as opposed to removing the node and it may be possible I'm just gonna say now that we don't actually atrophy nodes to delevel but rather accrue atrophy points that must be replenished over time; and if not it begins to disable services and further compound the atrophy problem; at which point when it reaches a certain atrophy point then the node would just disappear.[2] – Steven Sharif
And of course, testing or changes to their world manager during development may change it to another system completely. So stay tuned.
rose wind
Yeah the massive caveat on anything asked in here is "this is a game in early alpha testing, nothing is by any means set in stone at this stage"
bold yoke
Yeah the massive caveat on *anything* asked in here is "this is a game in early ...
that's the only reason I love what @idle siren 's doing. He's listening to ideas and input from morons like me 😄
worldly mural
I have a question, the pre-order pack cosmetics going to work only for 1 server or for all the server, where I am going to start my journey?
lean marlin
you can only have them on 1 character at a time. You'd probably have to put it back into whatever invisible inventory exists, to use on a different server.
worldly mural
And one more question, how the game going to handle PK in the newbie spawn. I mean after a couple month people will take mid grade gear and go for newbie locations to kill people, because for them that kind of gear will cost nothing after couple month and they can make 5-6 characters on one account. Even subscription fee will not stop PK players doing that. I know that bounty hunters going to catch them, but they will not get any benefits from killing them, because mid gear pretty much will cost nothing
digital yacht
with enough corruption ur stats will diminish to nothing
worldly mural
Yeah I know, I will just make a new character, lvl up it until mid grade and go again
quasi crystal
the corruption system is very unique, if you keep intentionally pking and somehow arent bounty hunted a new player could accidentally kill you, and with enough corruption, ull drop ur own loot that normally u shouldnt lose via combat
worldly mural
I know that, but mid gear will cost nothing at all after couple month
And losing it, means nothing
quasi crystal
If you want to stay mid ranged level with only average purchasable gear eternally then more power to you I guess? At a certain point though ur effectiveness and gear in terms of pvp will be essentially nothing
digital yacht
Yeah I know, I will just make a new character, lvl up it until mid grade and go ...
for what reason
just to grief newbies?
worldly mural
It was the biggest problem in Lineage 2
lean marlin
So, you have no idea what anything will cost. You're also not going to just get to a level where "mid gear" is going to matter that quickly, this isn't a fast leveling experience and you'd just be wasting your own time in that situation. Corruption doesn't just go away, so since you'd be indefinitely deleting toons and making them, you'd be gimping yourself game/fun wise.
worldly mural
Where there were tons of clans
Who were making PK clans
Staying in newbie zones and killing players
quasi crystal
According to the wiki, corruption punishments are intended to become severe enough to prevent spawn camping
desert ivy
It's gonna take quite a while to level in Ashes. It's not going to be something where you get to level 25 in 2 hours. If you make a character, level it up to 25, and then start going to kill level 1s, you're gonna get deep into corruption really really quickly. So you'd basically have spent 40 hours to get to that point only to become extremely corrupted in an hour or 2.
quasi crystal
I mean in a sense he's right
at a certain point you could technically just pk eternally but said characters progress would be stunted and youd face severe pvp punishments
worldly mural
So basically the game will make low stats on the gear in the newbie location?
quasi crystal
that being said though i doubt youd get to a point where u could just pk pk because the punishments are intended to be extremely severe to prevent that
and the higher a player corruption the higher bounty on their heads
desert ivy
No, there is no scaling when it comes to gear/equipment/monster levels/zones. The only time you "scale" down is when you become corrupted.
quasi crystal
so really to accomplish that would be a minigame in itself, gl with that
worldly mural
Thanks for the answers guys 🙂
worldly mural
Thanks 🙂
quasi crystal
from what I understand, at a certain point you'd become so corrupted that you literally couldn't pvp anyone who wasnt a bounty hunter, as corruption penalties dont count vs them. The higher level you are the more likely you are to have some form of valuable loot, even if its not gear really. Additionally the higher level between you and the person you pk the more intense the punishments, so you could pk some just because they annoyed you for example, and then work towards removing said corruption with moderate difficultly, but doing so repeatedly isn't really worth it as the level and gear desparity between the u and the person u pk increases ur corruption gained and you'd eventually lose anything of value. You'd basically be wasting ur time unless u wanted to pk to a certain level of corruption (to keep gear id guess) and then mini game with the bounty hunter system, as corrupted persons can kill BHs without penalty
quasi crystal
thanks o.0
tulip fjord
Do we know if we are able to move our characters to a different server? If I'm on a server that loses it's population, would I have to pay in game money or real currency to switch?
desert ivy
There's no plans for server transfers atm, especially not at launch
If something happens that makes it so that server transfers are necessary for particular servers, then Intrepid will look at the server impacted and see what needs to be done
tulip fjord
Thanks!
slow fiber
And one more question, how the game going to handle PK in the newbie spawn. I me...
pretty sure you get rewards other than whatever the player drops
It's called bounty hunting after all there has to be a bounty on the player
river ridge
So what is to stop you friend from killing you just to claim the reward? if you drop more than what you carry this could be abused. .
dark jungle
your friend could kill you for the bounty, but each time you get killed you suffer experience debt
and you respawn in a random location
river ridge
do you lose corruption ?
dark jungle
yes each time you die you loose some corruption
pseudo tangle
do you lose corruption ?
Gaining exp lessens ur corruption as well
dark jungle
the basic idea is that corruption is a time sink
river ridge
hmmm, i can see exploits already
dark jungle
any way you look at it you still have to grind back your XP debt
desert ivy
Oh boy. It's another episode of person who has done 2 minutes of research can see exploits that people who have been here for 4 years have missed
dark jungle
hahah yes we have been hearing that for 4 years
river ridge
it sounds a lot like Lineage 2, that had a similar system
dark jungle
it is like l2
desert ivy
It's also the point of the alphas, so this stuff can be tested and Intrepid can alter stuff that needs to be changed.
dark jungle
it has some additions to the L2 system though
anyway this has gone beyond a question and answer so GL
river ridge
it’s prob the best system that can be done i guess.
slow fiber
Will there be trading or just a marketplace?
desert ivy
Both
slow fiber
Can you trade/sell cosmetics?
slow fiber
oh ok
desert ivy
But if they allowed the real money cosmetic stuff to be sold, that'd be P2W
so they're not allowing that
slow fiber
yeah
clear burrow
so they're not allowing that
It would not be P2W. It's just cosmetics. P2W is if they provide an in-game bonus, which cosmetics do not give.
Unless they added cosmetics which provide in-game bonuses, which i am very much opposed.
crystal beacon
Will there be unique items and will there be skills that can be learned throughout the game other than what the class has to offer?
ruby swift
There are social organization, racial, and other augments that can be earned. There are one of a kind items planned.
grim breach
It would not be P2W. It's just cosmetics. P2W is if they provide an in-game bonu...
If you allow cash shop cosmetics to be traded for in game gold, then yes it is P2W. Or at least it opens up the avenue to P2W since the in game gold is the currency you use for everything.
clear burrow
If you allow cash shop cosmetics to be traded for in game gold, then yes it is P...
Good point, i didn't see it from that angle. I do hope they do not allow for shop items to be traded, and i assume they won't.
bold bear
grim breach
Good point, i didn't see it from that angle. I do hope they do not allow for sho...
To quote Steven, he did say, "I don't want cosmetic items that can be purchased from the market to be transferable... because it is in a way a transfer of money for potentially something in-game."
The cash shop will be almost completely cosmetic only, minus the Monster coin token.
bold bear
"All cosmetic store items will be non-tradeable" - so they are bound to the account that purchased them.
ruby swift
The monster coin only awards cosmetics. So it is still under no P2W
grim breach
And to understand what Monster Coin events are: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Monster_coins
ruby swift
And you have ways to get them in game.
junior ginkgo
I've got a question. If I purchase a pre-order pack that has lets say 6 months of gameplay time. Will I be able to choose when to activate each month if I won't be able to play 6 months straight?
ruby swift
The answer I have been giving is no. But the CM said she was going to check on their plans on that. So the current answer is unknown
spring dagger
!archtype
tender hearthBOT
spring dagger
thanks, just ended up looking it up manually
lean marlin
mental cradle
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craggy hull
I wonder what a Tank/Ranger hybrid would look like.
rustic relic
Probably just standard tank with some ranged augments on some of his abilities.
Shield throw / sword throw. something like that.
onyx knoll
Please keep this channel for questions, feel free to bring any theorycrafting and such to #aoc-discussion ❤️
keen mist
Where do we ask Questions that have no answer?
onyx knoll
If it's related to AoC feel free to ask here and we can tell you we don't have the answer yet 😉
keen mist
But that is why I want to submit the question further up 😛
Thanks @simple ether !
Is there a date for the next monthly livestream Q&A?
onyx knoll
They haven't given the exact date yet for the next livestream, but they're usually around the last friday of each month
oak bridge
can mounts hold 2 players?
onyx knoll
Group mounts was a kickstarter that was met, so there will be some mounts that can carry multiple players, we don't have much detail on them yet tho
oak bridge
thanks! Another question, will there be attacks that stun in this game?
woven vale
thanks! Another question, will there be attacks that stun in this game?
Yes, CC will exist but hard CC will be tied to action combat (making it harder to use)
CCs will also have diminishing returns.
oak bridge
thanks!
faint needle
No 45sec long stun lock? :((
summer wolf
If you change server (to join a friend for example) will you keep your characters stats gear etc?
onyx knoll
Currently there are no plans for server transfers. Due to the nature of the game, if they do decide to add it, you most likely wouldn't be keeping anything
summer wolf
Ok cool 👍
lofty wadi
any links to the corruption pvp mechanics?
crystal beacon
how do u get into alpha and beta testing? :3
crystal beacon
got it, thanks!
digital yacht
!wiki Corruption
tender hearthBOT
digital yacht
@lofty wadi
vale osprey
not to be rude or anything but is it kind of a scam game? i mean i thought if u buy a pack from their website u get access to alpha phases but some dude on here said they send u a beta acess so i'm confused
vale osprey
oh okay thanks for the heads up
onyx knoll
anytime ^^
vale osprey
so if i buy the 75 pack one would i get access right away or no?
thats sucks, i am hoping to give ashes of creation mmo a try
to me it seems that the game kind of finish so why aren't they doing like crowfall did?
onyx knoll
the game is no where near finished ^^'
vale osprey
i mean i am trying to make my own game in ue4 and seem to be easy to get a good game up and running
reef osprey
lmao
dark jungle
HAHAHA
onyx knoll
they're making an MMO :/ it's a very large-scale kind of game, there are a lot of new ideas and concept that they're creating from scratch, too
dark jungle
i mean i am trying to make my own game in ue4 and seem to be easy to get a good ...
thanks for the laugh of the day
onyx knoll
The whole idea of an evolving game world that constantly changes alone is something that will take years to fully flesh out. They need to create a lot of assets, landmass, creatures, gear etc, on top of coding the AI that controls the world and everything else around it
it's a very big-scale project
oak depot
World Manager will handle that
onyx knoll
indeed
vale osprey
ah i see, well i a noob at game developer so i wouldn't know
but yes if they creating their own assets and all that, then yes it'll take years
onyx knoll
The NDA on the alpha 1 will be lifted soon, so you'll be able to see for yourself what state the game is in currently and how far along they are 🙂
oak depot
would it be even fair to say at this point that the bones of the game are in place?
crystal beacon
!wiki alliances
tender hearthBOT
fallen needle
How do i use name reservation?
woven vale
How do i use name reservation?
Name reservations aren't happening yet
I believe the plan is to start doing them closer to A2
void pollen
!wiki classes
tender hearthBOT
dim shuttle
Hmm on the topic of name reservations:
Has Steven stated (or maybe he’d like to state right here 😉) whether or not your character name will be protected for a certain period of time if you delete/remake your character? Perhaps a few months or years into the game, one might like to re-roll their original character with their favorite name but they don’t want it to be stolen or locked forever like in many games.
ruby swift
There will be more on name reservation guidelines as it gets closer to the actual process.
!wiki name reservation
tender hearthBOT
ruby swift
@dim shuttle Give a another company example that allows you to lock a name that is not in use for perpetuity.
quasi crystal
@ruby swift do we have any information on the amount of servers?
ruby swift
As many as needed. They have their metrics and will announce closer to when it is relevant.
quasi crystal
hm
I somehow already know
with all this technological communication at my fingertips
all my friends and i are going to be on different servers xD
ruby swift
Not like it is a complicated process to add new servers now. This isn't 20 years back when places like WoW had to wait for server farms to come online.
quasi crystal
I'm more concerned with being on the right server in terms of people I know, incase we can't switch easily
dim shuttle
There will be more on name reservation guidelines as it gets closer to the actua...
Not talking about name reservation specifically, just in the same topical realm.
Also, no I don’t think I will name off any for you. But I have played games that either A) do not give you a grace period where no one else can take your name while you remake your character or B) literally keep the name listed as previously used even if you deleted the character.
ruby swift
"We all got tickets third row for the Britney concert. Brad, are you coming?" "No, I am going to wait till later to see if I really want to go." Brad later "What you mean third row tickets are sold out! This is an outrage!"
It means if playing with your friends is important to you, organize your people.
quasi crystal
Well yes, but we're not just a single group. Hence the information request about server amount
😉
It'll probably be fine, once we get closer to launch, it just popped into my head so i asked
ruby swift
Servers are capped currently at 50k accounts. If that isn't enough for your group to get on, you have done something horribly wrong.
quasi crystal
Arent there like, 3 million registered accounts already o.0
ruby swift
Yep, and an already determined number of packages with guaranteed access and gametime sold. We know for sure of 40k of them, and that was two years ago before the Peon vid blew stuff up here. There will be multiple server options on launch. Just got to wait for them to list them later.
quasi crystal
Thanks
rough peak
does anyone know yet if one can keep a bounty hunter title once it is acquired or do we need to live in a military node forever? Or no info yet?
digital yacht
no info yet, if there is regular titles like in most MMOs it should be sticking with u, but if its like an Active Title over ur heading while actively Bounty Hunting i think it would only be there when doing the hunts
but no confirmed info
rough peak
thanks :)
ruby swift
does anyone know yet if one can keep a bounty hunter title once it is acquired o...
I believe there is a quote out there about travelling to other nodes that you are not part of to join social organizations. We do not know things like the the availability of things like bounty hunter mission terminals located in other nodes. Or mission boards, or whatever they end up calling them.
We know that some node services are locked to citizenship, whether that applies to higher tier social organization abilities is unknown at this time.
rough peak
Ah okay because the Wiki said "Players can acquire the bounty hunter title through a quest available to citizens of Military Stage 4 (Town) nodes and potentially their vassals or affiliated nodes."
but maybe that is not the final info
ruby swift
Oh, good, the Prophet is active. I can dip out. Woke up in the middle of the night for me. Time to go back to sleep. Have fun.
rough peak
Happy to wait for the final thing, I was just curious :)
alpine zodiac
Is there a cap for number of attackers in node siege, since everyone can join one?
Isn't that a bit unfair since theoretically there could be a lot more attackers than defenders
Fair enough, makes alliances with other nodes more important and i like it
quaint coral
Same could be said in reverse, win over the favor or buy out said favor from neighboring nodes and have them all sign up to defend. Friends are good.
alpine zodiac
Thanks for quick answer ^^
quaint coral
The only big plot hole there, and something I wonder about is node siege times. Kinda makes it hard to recruit other nodes, if everyone is open to being sieged at the same time in the month. Though idk if we have information on how that specific mechanic works or not.
digital yacht
and u will have advance notification so u can prepare, i think metros have a week of prep time
quaint coral
I guess I meant more, if all nodes are seigable at 4pm (actual time is irrelevant) and Metro A and B are allied knowing Metro C is going to attack Metro A so both defend said Metro, then Metro D waits until let's say the last 3 minutes of time of enlistment to decide they're going to besige metro B, meaning at best only some of Metro B will be left to defend, (assuming they even respond or realize in time) then the only person really winning there is Metro D.
desert ivy
You have to declare the sieges in advance. Can't just walk up to a node during prime time and siege it
quaint coral
Oh, so you mean it will happen during this time, but the decision to lay sieges happens way sooner?
desert ivy
Yes
The prime time of a server may be 6 - 10pm for example, this means all sieges will take place within this time. But for a siege to happen, it needs to be declared by someone days in advance
quaint coral
That makes sense, cool. Thank ye Talents and others whom responded prior.
hallow torrent
How are the cosmetic accessories going to be transmogged? Can you use multiple at the same time on your char (for ex. a hat and boots) or will you be stuck to just one? Knowing the costumes in the last bundle are only transmogged as a full set, not individual pieces.
crystal flax
You will probably be able to use multiple that are single items
plucky pawn
The costume cosmetics (that are labeled with that tag each month) will go over everything as a full piece! The accessories are able to be mixed and matched on your character at the same time.
hallow torrent
Oo nice
raven glade
The game is looking good so far from the few video's I have watched, something I would like to know is related to the class based system what real benefit is there to go away from the standard choice of like Rogue > Rogue into assassin? compared to let's say Rogue > Ranger into predator?
desert ivy
Double downing on your archetype (Mage/Mage, Cleric/Cleric, Rogue/Rogue etc.) is going to mean your original archetype is more potent, so a Mage/Mage will be the best at doing "Mage" stuff, a Rogue/Rogue will be the best at "Rogue" stuff. Going a mixture like Rogue/Ranger, Mage/Fighter, means you'll get extra versatility that the people that double downed won't. So while you might not be as potent as a Rogue/Rogue, you'll have versatility that they won't.
We don't exactly know what that involves since we don't know much about classes yet since we won't be seeing them until A2
raven glade
A2? Alpha 2?
desert ivy
Yeah
raven glade
So let's say I do not like the class I chose initially is there any option to try out the other classes or have to make a new character?
desert ivy
You can change the secondary archetype, so if you're Rogue/Mage, you can change the Mage archetype, but you can't change your primary so you wouldn't be able to change the Rogue part
You'd need to make a new character to be a new primary archetype
desert ivy
It's optional. You can have just 1 name, or you can have a first name and surname
raven glade
for example
tulip fjord
Do we know yet if we are able to change our character's physical appearance? Like hair or height?
desert ivy
Other than when you initially create you character, there is going to be an in-game place (like a barbershop or whatever) where you can change your appearance
tulip fjord
Thank you!
storm copper
will the mobs be in camps like Shadowbane or spread all over like in WOW? Will low level mobs be linted to certain areas or can they be found scattered around?
woven vale
will the mobs be in camps like Shadowbane or spread all over like in WOW? Will l...
Mobs in an area will be tied to the Node's ZOI and Lvl (with other factors also affecting this)
idle rain
hwhehn gaem?
woven vale
hwhehn gaem?
I assume this is "When Game" | The game release is unknown however the unofficial community guesstimation (mostly speculation) is 2-3 years.
vivid cobalt
Question, will the server nodes be reset after a certain amount of time?
I’m assuming no, since they’re ever-changing due to how the system itself works, but I thought I’d ask
desert ivy
No. Nodes won't be reset by the devs
Only way to reset them is either by atrophy or by sieging them
vivid cobalt
Thanks! I never liked the idea of total progress regression.
limber yew
I got two questions if anyone read up on them, is transmog gonna be a thing and are crafted items gonna mean anything compared to drops?
dire pond
How many people would have the 2 day headstart aproximatly?
desert ivy
Yea transmog is a thing.
They want crafted items to be on the same level as the bis gear from raids
limber yew
sweet, i just looked up the classes and glossed over the overall game, its getting tempting to grab a beta key
vivid cobalt
Don’t get a key expecting a superb experience.
They’re very early in the process of creating the game.
desert ivy
How many people would have the 2 day headstart aproximatly?
Theres not an exact number because the kickstarter doesn't update the numbers accurately anymore. Most we can say for sure is 1500 but its almost certainly gonna be way more than that (there's also 1 day headstart people)
limber yew
lets just say i enjoyed cyberpunk 2077, a beta key for this game cant be any worse, i mostly wanna test it out
desert ivy
Well the beta will be basically the finished product
The alpha is where the testing happens
limber yew
*test it out for myself, i dont think any of my friends are gonna pull the trigger so i might as well try it before them to see if its any good
but anyway, thats a future thing, gonna keep an eye on the game while they develop
dire pond
Ty talents
crystal beacon
Yea just don't judge anything based on alpha testing because anything could change. You could get an idea of what the game is trying to do I guess from alpha.
The main ideas of the game shouldn't change much but the combat and things like that should improve a lot after alpha.
Or during alpha even
feral hamlet
Hey there. Will team duals be available in the open world? As in two teams of, let's say, 5 or 8 meeting in the guild hall or some field, clicking on one of the opposing team and pressing the prompt to fight a duel.
Putting bets on that duel would be cool as well
desert ivy
They don't know. There will be 1v1 duels, and multiple people vs multiple people is something they're interested in, but they haven't confirmed it in the open world
dire pond
Well you could RP fights or create your own guild war between 2 small guild
feral hamlet
I would love to have that kind of system and use it to practice pvp tactics and what not with my guild mates
dire pond
You can, i think there is a mutual duel mecanic right? @desert ivy
desert ivy
There are 1v1 duels, but 2v2, 3v3, etc. duels haven't been confirmed
feral hamlet
Thanks, pal
ancient lantern
Is there free building within the node after village+ is established or is it more like predetermined plots they just need to be constructed ?
thanks
modern viper
hey guys, im really looking into being a guild leader in the game but i got a question regarding guild wars, if say my guild is allied with a few other guilds ,when another guild decides they wanna siege us, can our allys come and help and vice- versa also what kind of skills will we be getting to benefit guild members
thanks a lot, im really looking forward to this game, . Cant wait for the beta date announcements 
bitter acorn
when will the next stream be?
bitter acorn
oki
digital yacht
there ya go LOL
golden mantle
When am I able to redeem my name reservation?
broken granite
during Alpha 2?
plucky pawn
We haven't announced a start for name reservations yet, but we'll be keeping folks who have that perk updated via email and likely other places as well 
north oyster
Does Steven wear Sandals?
golden mantle
Is there a list I can sign up to to be notified when I am able to redeem it via discord?
digital yacht
no they will be sneidng out pings whenever something like that is coming]
lone magnet
6 days
real shoal
Is that bot available for other servers?
plucky pawn
@golden mantle as mentioned the main info for that will likely be sent out via email, so I would recommend making sure your contact email is up to date on your Intrepid account! Other than that, you can keep an eye on our #news channel for the latest pings, and adjust your notification settings accordingly 😄
crystal beacon
Is the game up?
Is the game free?
When opening?
When beta?
Where can I download?
proven crystal
Free, cosmetic microtransactions, not out, not known, not known, and not known
real shoal
Free, meaning no box cost with $15 monthly sub
proven crystal
yep
rose wind
Is the game up?
Is the game free?
When opening?
When beta?
Where can I download...
No (and no release date). No (subscription model). Unknown, no date. Unknown, no date. You currently can't.
vale locust
Is the game up?
Is the game free?
When opening?
When beta?
Where can I download...
Is the game up? No
Is the game free? No. Subscription only
When opening? No idea
When beta? No idea
Where can I download? Not Available
quaint coral
Most amusingly repeatedly answered set of questions =P
marsh sphinx
@idle siren any chance ashes will get a single dagger class like in lineage2 😉
digital yacht
any class can use any weapon
so its up to you to decide how u want to play that class
fallen needle
is there a way to use my ship skin without building the ship myself?
and is it a universal skin ? it works with every ship type?
faint blaze
Pretty sure you can skin the ship you own/control
fallen needle
cool
cause as cool as ship building sounds im going processing for my guild and because i think thats where the money will be. so its good to know i didnt waste money on this months sexy ship skin
astral bobcat
What’s the release ETA?
crisp holly
No official eta, the community guess is 2-3 years from now
full badger
Yes, Alpha 1 is this year
crisp holly
Each Beta will be much shorter than each Alpha
full badger
Everything else is community speculation, and depends entirely on how the Alpha 1 testing goes
astral bobcat
I’ll have to stick with lineage 2 for another year then 😂
quasi pine
Will there be orphans in the game?
molten nebula
Lol
lean marlin
Will there be orphans in the game?
yep, just let me deal with their families first.
woven vale
Will there be orphans in the game?
On a real note I believe Steven clarified there wont be children/many
Feint memory from a very old stream though
prisma comet
This is going to be no place for kiddies >.>
thorny warren
Denouncing the orphanage system? i cant believe you guys
prisma comet
the sooner the orphans are out of the system the better 😇
woven vale
the sooner the orphans are out of the system the better 😇
Our brave heroes out there making sure the system stays alive with a healthy intake of orphans 
prisma comet
can you have an orphanage in your city? perhaps provides cheap labor?
I had to ask 😵
reef veldt
Will there be corruptions you can get like being a vampire or werewolf?
limber yew
so item stats, are there just basic + modifiers to base stats or do we get modifiers to damage (think PoE weapon crafting)
and is there rng to crafting?
is there a list of professions in the game and how many can you spec into?
tender hearthBOT
craggy totem
how many you can spec into is still TBD
and is likely to be that way until we are close to release
limber yew
ohh, this is interesting, so i pretty much have to join a crafting guild to get someone who gathers if i just want to craft?
digital yacht
ohh, this is interesting, so i pretty much have to join a crafting guild to get ...
or find a guild in general most min max guilds will designate ppls for each role
craggy totem
Or advertise yourself and craft for people that bring mats to you @limber yew
limber yew
I have a feeling im gonna be well liked i like crafting and usually play tanks
vagrant vector
hello I am a purchaser form back when alpha 1 was being run for alpha 2 for Ashes of Creation. I can't seem to find anything other then my transaction codes on the website and haven't been emailed any activation keys.
yah I don't see anything for the kick starter codes in my spam folder
raven glade
The Artisan system I would assume that system is seperate from the crafting system in that you can master one of these and master one of the crafting professions?
raven glade
So like I could master Gathering only?
civic obsidian
yeah
raven glade
Ok thats bad.
civic obsidian
u are still able to to others up to a level
desert ivy
And even then you can't master everything in one branch
civic obsidian
but not master them
raven glade
So essentially if some high level craft requires a master material from gathering, I have to find a master in gathering to complete said craft?
desert ivy
Yep
raven glade
Once you master I assume there is no system in place to change mastery? even if its a limited change of mastery eg like once every 6 months
molten nebula
So essentially if some high level craft requires a master material from gatherin...
It’s set up this way to facilitate a player-driven economy
prisma comet
will there be a complete and accurate list of effects for choosing a race and other such permanent classifications and how they effect your combat, crafting, etc ? I was wondering if this would be one of those hide the juicy bits until someone finds the "Easter egg" and adds it to the wiki 🤓
lean marlin
!wiki racials
tender hearthBOT
prisma comet
yeah. I read that and i get that theres going to be some effects on choosing a race. but it seems general and vague. i mean when the game is released, will those effects be summarized in more detail by the devs or the community?
desert ivy
We'll know what the racial effects/stat bonuses are before launch
astral hinge
Has anything been discussed of when Alpha 2 is to begin?
desert ivy
No
empty pelican
Hi, question about corruption system. On the chart, it says that when you attack corrupted player as non-combatant, your status doesn't change. So when you fight back against a corrupted player but still get killed, which death penalty will apply to you at that situation if you die as non-combatant? Any info about that?
crystal beacon
We ain’t even in the first alpha bruv 😂
I’m pretty sure u don’t suffer a penalty if you’re a non combatant and fight back when someone initiates on u
desert ivy
You'll still get the same death penalties that a non combatant would
Since your status doesn't change from non combatant
empty pelican
And was this specific situation mentioned somewhere? I figured that from the info I found but it doesn't really make sense to me. At that point, you should really be getting same penalty as when you fight back against combatant. Anyway, thx for the answer.
full badger
And was this specific situation mentioned somewhere? I figured that from the inf...
I don't believe there is a specific quote for that, more what's implied by what we know of the system. All of this is subject to testing of course so we'll have a much better idea of how it works throughout Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 testing
empty pelican
Ok, thanks. 🙂
crystal beacon
Is possible to add the wiki bot to our Discord channels?
Ty 😉
full badger
Is possible to add the wiki bot to our Discord channels?
Ty 😉
Yes you can. Give me a sec I'll find you the info
+help
tender hearthBOT
crystal beacon
Yes you can. Give me a sec I'll find you the info
Thank you friend 😊
full badger
No worries
supple viper
Im following the development quite a while now and noticed the team is ambitious and with the right mind set. However, after couple of years of dev footage, Im still wondering one thing: Are we able to move while casting or is this planned? Clips I saw show that when casting, you’re rooted. Is this going to stay the case? Cheers
velvet spear
We're expecting a big combat overhaul around March. The A1 is still very much under NDA but I'd imagine that's a huge focus of the testing so that the team can begin finalizing things.
crystal beacon
Im following the development quite a while now and noticed the team is ambitious...
I hope that some spells require you to not move, especially more powerful ones, while lesser spells, like debuffs and so on would make sense you could cast while moving
I also hope there will be some kind of interrupt system to cancel out enemies who began to cast a spell.
grim breach
grim breach
Im following the development quite a while now and noticed the team is ambitious...
Skills with the greatest power may require the caster to remain stationary while channeling them.[3][4]
Prone and crouch will likely not be in the game.[5]
Moving backward will likely not affect block and parry.[6]
supple viper
I certainly agree that big cast DPS skills should root you for x time, giving someone the chance to interrupt.
But I sincerely hope that 2021 and onwards gameplay will adapt to move while like some decent MMO’s (BDO, GW2, BnS, ..) Couldn’t live without it any longer.
Edit: thanks for the link @grim breach, does show they intend to have a mix 🙂 As long auto attacks are not rooted, a mix is good
grim breach
I certainly agree that big cast DPS skills should root you for x time, giving s...
The latest combat clip they've shown us have no rooting on auto attacks. With that said, the combat system is currently undergoing a revamp. We will see what the actual changes are this March, hopefully.
supple viper
The latest combat clip they've shown us have no rooting on auto attacks. With th...
Ah I probably watched the dev update stream in wrong succesion. Last time I watched (when they fought a boss together and funny enough got pushed from high ledge) it seemed most of the skills were rooting the dev playing/streaming it. Even auto-attacks seemed to root him. At least that was my impression but could be because he was explaining a lot to the chat
grim breach
Ah I probably watched the dev update stream in wrong succesion. Last time I watc...
Steven barely uses the auto attack in the latest boss fight video as he is playing a mage (with a mace 
). The other players in that video did use the auto attacks so you should be able to see from that. Or you can watch the hybrid combat video demonstration.
https://youtu.be/8WQ_BBwK5LA?t=1069
I timestamped it for you to watch the auto attack demonstration.
supple viper
Steven barely uses the auto attack in the latest boss fight video as he is playi...
Thanks! Appreciate your time!
toxic vine
I know it's kinda irrelevant at this point in time but is the leveling process really 45d with 4-6h played per day?
grim breach
I know it's kinda irrelevant at this point in time but is the leveling process r...
We'll see. That's what they have in mind, but not necessarily turn out to be true for everyone. 4-6 hours can give a lot of progression to some people and it can also be completely nothing for some people. It will depend heavily on your play style.
high current
Hi, I cannot regist on website. Everything stops when I click sign up. Can you help?
full badger
@high current Hi there. Can I just double check which website you are trying to register on please
high current
I'm trying to make an account to participate on alphas and betas
and for many other stuff hehe
full badger
@high current Ok. So you go onto the website, press the "register now" button on the front page. Then what happens?
reef osprey
try a different browser, 90% of issues you get on the interwebs are based on incompatible browsers
woven vale
I click Sign up and then nothing happens
Sometimes chrome decides to die on certain sites (works fine for me though) try incognito mode
As when it dies incognito mode almost always works
lean marlin
@high current try this one instead https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/login
high current
blocks at the same place
I try to creat my account I click accept for terms and then click sign up...nothing happenms
lean marlin
yeah, then best bet is to use a different browser.
crisp spire
Hello all, I have been gone a while and only just peeked around but didn't see a clear answer. Is there a date for Alpha 2?
woven vale
If the above doesn't work, a website overhaul is coming up so you can wait for that and it may work after
crisp spire
Thanks
spiral pine
special characters such as öäå do not work
high current
my name is Jean-François
arctic swift
high current
we have to pre order for it?
arctic swift
Yes
high current
strange I thought it was a sub only game
arctic swift
You get alpha/beta keys along with other benefits like cosmetics, ingame currency, and other such things
it is
preorder is optional
its not even really preorder
high current
okok...but its the only way to be able to participate in alphas and betas?
arctic swift
its just buying keys and other stuff for when the game is released
there is a possibility for giveaways and drops ofcourse but nothing confirmed
arctic swift
we did have many a1 giveaways during their livestream
high current
okay Ill keep an eye open then
high current
so just to make sure...even if I preorder stuff today I cannot try the game right away...true?
spiral pine
yes you cannot try the game yet
toxic vine
We'll see. That's what they have in mind, but not necessarily turn out to be tru...
I realized it translates to roughly 10 days of played time, time equivalent to get level 60 in classic wow. So not THAT big of a deal honestly, i've done that 3 times! 😄
molten nebula
!wiki guild perks
tender hearthBOT
civic obsidian
Yeah there are either guild member limit increase or guild buffs
molten nebula
if anyone hasn't submitted a question for the livestream yet... "Will there be a guild perk or augment that allows a character to appear unaffiliated to a guild for espionage purposes?"
civic obsidian
tbh i doubt, they have state that u can use alt characters for that somewhere in the wiki
since alt arent automaticly part of your guild
molten nebula
true. that's a good point
It'll be interesting to see what the guild affiliation system looks like. If you can rank up or earn perks for being a part of a guild for X amount of time, it might feel bad. but i guess if its an alt you may not care that much
bleak fable
will they add more classes later on like samurai or ninja [just really wanted to play samurai]
velvet spear
It's likely they might add some new archetypes down the line. However something like Samurai might be possible through Fighter and some clever cosmetics
bleak fable
thx
tender wren
im sure theres probably going to be some renkai themed armor set that looks like a samuri
desert ivy
While they probably will eventually add new archetypes (even though they've said they probably won't), these probably won't be for years. It's pretty difficult to add new archetypes in Ashes as you need to account for the hundreds (pontentially thousands) of new augments you'd need to add
velvet spear
While they probably will eventually add new archetypes (even though they've said...
Not calling you out, but do you have a link b/c I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't add new Archetypes when they've repeatedly said augments aren't going to be as big of a change as many are making them out to be
Fair enough. I guess I'll wait till the March combat revamp where we can hopefully get a better idea of what the augments will look like and if that'll change
velvet spear
We might not see them in action but that doesn't mean we can't have a more fleshed out idea of what they'll be. Either way, the result is still wait and see
toxic vine
Who am I against in the game? Who am I with? Who do I see and be like "eyyy homie whats up?" Everyone in my node are my friends or how does it work? 😄
craggy totem
your node
toxic vine
This is coming from WoW player so you know my background
ruby swift
!wiki node
tender hearthBOT
craggy totem
@toxic vine
toxic vine
Yes thank you 🙂
tender hearthBOT
No matching results. Try something else.
craggy totem
!wiki guild wars
velvet spear
scarlet gorge
So we won't have to worry about stupid guilds and the like if we don't want to? Just defend our node when we are being attacked?
desert ivy
Depends what you mean
Guilds will still be in the same dungeons/raids/open world/etc. as you
velvet spear
The big thing is if you come across a stupid guild you can bonk them on the head until they die
scarlet gorge
What I mean is for those of us who don't care nor have an interest in guilds, we can ignore overall politics until war comes to our node. Then we can defend it in that event?
quaint pawn
Short answer, yes.
scarlet gorge
Good
craggy totem
the node is your higest aligance
full badger
What I mean is for those of us who don't care nor have an interest in guilds, we...
If you're a citizen of a node, you'll be automatically flagged as a defender for that node if it gets sieged
scarlet gorge
limber yew
btw, has the topic of player generated quests been brought up? say if im a smithy and want ore, i can post a quest somewhere to other players to gather for me with a money reward from me.
full badger
!wiki bulletin board
tender hearthBOT
full badger
@limber yew ^ here ya go
limber yew
this game really does have it all 😄
limber yew
is the bulletin boards reach limited to just the nearest node or do they stretch further?
full badger
@limber yew I'm not sure what you mean by "reach" here
limber yew
if the bulletin board is connected to just one node you have to visit or if the same listing appears on multiple boards
craggy totem
''There will not be a generalized group finder in Ashes of Creation, instead Bulletin boards are used to encourage localized grouping.[2]''
so looks like local
full badger
Yes, but how "local" is "local"?
dark jungle
if the bulletin board is connected to just one node you have to visit or if the ...
bulletin boards dont just list items in the current node, they can also list items in the same region
limber yew
oh okay, so region based instead of node based then
dark jungle
essentially yes
limber yew
soo they have a working idea how its implemented now but its most likely going to change in some form?
dark jungle
soo they have a working idea how its implemented now but its most likely going t...
yes. that applies to everything
limber yew
and i guess the mechanics are gonna be set in stone about the time the first beta goes live?
dark jungle
i doubt that they will ever set anything in stone, like all mmos things will always be up for change
limber yew
well stone is stone, it just needs more effort to move it
limber yew
just because im sadistic, can you put up a hit on people on the BB? or do they have to be corrupted? 😂
dark jungle
i'd imagine that would be fairly common
yes, in terms of whether there are any in game mechanics to support a personal bounty hasnt been revealed
but in terms of trade chat messages or text messages on boards, that might be fairly commonplace
limber yew
i guess they would have to give players some kind of dogtag to turn in to get the bounty to work
that can be looted off the corpse
proper crown
hi everyone, I remember there being a guy who bundled all the monthly cosmetics, does anyone know if he continued making that/where to find that?
full badger
@proper crown What do you mean by "bundled all the monthly cosmetics" ?
proper crown
There is a rotating monthly cosmetic
If I go to the shop now I cant see what was on sale last month
There was a guy who collected all the the previous months and put them in a nice overview to see what mounts/buildings etc I missed so far
full badger
Ahh
I don't know of anyone who still does that, although you could go back through the posts in #news where all the cosmetic announcements are
simple karma
full badger
Huh, fair enough. Never knew that existed
scarlet gorge
Any word on when more lore is coming? Especially info on the Tulnar?
crystal beacon
Have we gotten any info about competitive or ranked pvp?
Or if it’ll even be in the game
crystal beacon
Have they said if gear will play a factor in them?
spiral pine
arena will have equalized stats
crystal beacon
Thank you
spiral pine
to be more accurate "There may be equalized PvP in certain arena battlegrounds under specific circumstances"
crystal beacon
Kinda hope it just works like GW2 lmao
full badger
Any word on when more lore is coming? Especially info on the Tulnar?
The Tulnar aren't due to be implemented into the game until Alpha 2, so that is probably the earliest we'll get new info. As for lore, the devs have said they want to keep a lot of the lore under-wraps for us to discover once the game launches, so I wouldn't expect too much in that regard.
!wiki lore
tender hearthBOT
full badger
^ here's what we know so far
molten nebula
https://imgur.com/a/DcNjm6x
I’ve missed so many cool cosmetics 😭😭😭
The October ones are badass
digital star
is there any info regarding if the town guards will one shot ppl like in archeage?
full badger
is there any info regarding if the town guards will one shot ppl like in archeag...
Unknown at this time, sorry.
digital star
thanks
cedar crow
Is there a release date yet?
tranquil willow
No. There won't be any soon, still a lot of testing to do
woven vale
Is there a release date yet?
The community guesstimation is 2-3 years
frail void
What was the result of the discussion about the login rewards?
vapid veldt
from what I've seen, the vast majority was agaisnt any kind of them
vapid veldt
some people brought out some niche ideas, but absolutely no p2w, not even cosmetics
tranquil willow
honestly they should just forget it
no need to invest resources into making something people don't even want and need to do mental gymnastics to justify it
vapid veldt
yeah its gonna be hard to implement something amazing and might take waaay too much dev time and resources
vapid veldt
no need to invest resources into making something people don't even want and nee...
yep
desert ivy
Eh. I wouldn't call 55% "Against" and 45% "For" a resounding "no"
dire pond
Will there be a limit to how long i can play? Like if my character is never afk, could i alwayd be loggin in?
desert ivy
I don't see why they'd put in a limit to how much you could play 
I've never heard of a game that does that
dire pond
Great
candid lava
I've never heard of a game that does that
Clash of Clans does that, they force of you off for couple of mins if you have been playing non stops for hours
digital yacht
I don't see why they'd put in a limit to how much you could play <:Thonkang:2712...
RuneScape auto logs u out every 6 hours with a message that says go outside or something lol
desert ivy
Ah yeah, but you can log straight back in
Pretty sure it was basically a shit attempt to try and stop bots
digital yacht
Yea lol
crystal beacon
It’s a player driven game too
They’re gonna want as many ppl as they can get online typically lol
dire pond
Yeah but if 20 000 wants to play the game and there is only 10 000 places, what would they do
desert ivy
Wait in queue or go to another less populated server
crystal beacon
Early game tip: do not play on a streamers server
dire pond
Normaly is the streamers server the most competitive one?
crystal beacon
It’ll have the most people on it early on and be the first to die when the streamer quits
And it’ll be damn near impossible to log onto
desert ivy
No. Streamer servers won't be the most competitive ones because all the big guilds will avoid it like the plague
crystal beacon
It’ll just be a painful mess to get into
And if any of them die first it’ll be streamer servers
edgy lintel
Will this game come to steam or have its own launcher?
crystal beacon
They haven’t said anything about steam
edgy lintel
i just want to be able to stream it w my garbage pc lmao
it isn’t coming to console right?
crystal beacon
Doubt it would be on console
edgy lintel
i think it would be a good fit personally but let’s see
crystal beacon
I mean I haven’t officially heard them say pc only but it’s probably a 90% chance it’s on pc
digital yacht
They will not support consoles or steam at launch
lean marlin
100% it's on PC.
patent valve
Where will players be able to queue for arena pvp?
digital yacht
!WIKI arena
tender hearthBOT
barren hill
Instead of repeating "Player Name" for each player i suggest replacing "Player" in the top left with "Player name."
quartz coral
barren hill
bold yoke
Hi everyone, I'm relatively new to the channel so there might be an answer to this somewhere, but I'm just gonna write it here as I couldn't find it.
In the videos showing the combat system in a siege situation, there seems to be a lot of particles going around that really obscure the view. Has this issue been addressed? It was simply impossible to see where the players were in the environment.
south silo
They will be toning those down
What J said.
Has IS said anything about being able to customize the UI to work better with super ultra wide monitors?
dark jungle
it already works pretty well on my 32:9
south silo
Nifty.
dark jungle
and i can say that cause the NDA was released on the PI testing last year
love to be able to post screenshots but sadly no visuals
south silo
I'd love to see them. Show me some when the visual drops, lol.
Thanks for the timely reply. ✌️
echo coral
Hey yall, im new here and just wondering if we know when the alpha two test phase begins
tender hearthBOT
echo coral
ok thanks for the info
ruby swift
I'd love to see them. Show me some when the visual drops, lol.
There is no plan to release the NDA on past visuals stated so far. They will linger in the phantom zone for all time.
south silo
There is no plan to release the NDA on past visuals stated so far. They will lin...
Yes, but for testing in the future that is not under a visual nda I could see those sweet sweet widescreen UI pictures. Looking forward to it 👍
normal harbor
As a cleric/ healer will the healing be based on low CD and higher mana costs where you have to manage mana or will the heals have long cd’s that you will have to manage?
cold dune
when can people start sniping names?
grim breach
When name reservation starts opening and people with the highest tier package will be able to do it first.
Highest tier KS to lowest pre-order package.
cold dune
too bad i wasn't around for KS
feral glade
It is my understanding the servers are currently not open correct? Wont open next till feb 19th?
grim breach
It is my understanding the servers are currently not open correct? Wont open nex...
That's correct but when it opens, it's only accessible to Alpha 1 testers.
lofty wadi
Up untill what level can we expect to see "new" skills for our character? Are there level 30/40/50 skills too?
steady ocean
We don't know the details in regards to when we get new skills/skill points at this time
grim breach
Up untill what level can we expect to see "new" skills for our character? Are th...
No idea. What we know is that you will gain skill points which you can use to level up your skills in your skill tree.
lofty wadi
i might ask during the livestream this friday. I dont like having all skills before level 10 and then only be able to "upgrade" them
indigo beacon
is there any expected release date?
grim breach
You won't unlock your second archetype until level 25 so you won't see all skills right away.
grim breach
is there any expected release date?
No.
crystal beacon
grrr im tired of these sht mmos
community guesses around 2-3 years-ish i believe
lofty wadi
@indigo beacon https://nl.ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
low lantern
@lofty wadi Being that you can maybe have around 30 skills, I doubt you get them all before lvl 10
valid tulip
when will we get the combat update? is it in February?
full badger
when will we get the combat update? is it in February?
They haven't given a specific date for it. The quote from Jeff I believe was "around March".
ruby swift
There ya go. If there is a combat update. March 19th is when you will see it.
valid tulip
i hope we will get updated on the progress before release.
ruby swift
Before the release of the update? Would be kind of pointless to have a NDA then.
molten nebula
NDAs don’t exist to keep the studio from talking about stuff...
swift lion
As an assassin/rogue, would i be able to do parkour on buildings without much limit?
swift lion
Ahh certain areas. Thanks for the reply!
jaunty quarry
Obviously nobody knows for sure, but what is the likelihood alpha-2 will be released before the end of 2021
woven vale
Obviously nobody knows for sure, but what is the likelihood alpha-2 will be rele...
I can see it being released in december if everything goes perfectly, but think it is more realistic for a release in early -mid 2022
(Note this is just personal opinion and carries almost no weight)
vagrant vector
I posted a ticket last week ticket number#25163 and have been checking on it's statues a bit and if i need to resubmit another ticket?
spiral pine
when exactly last week
vagrant vector
around friday
spiral pine
you should wait atleast a few more day then
vagrant vector
I think
desert ivy
They don't work weekends and they're not even back in work yet
vagrant vector
thats understandable
potent pine
does anyone know if there are gonna be some support/dps classes along the lines of bladedancer and swordsinger from lineage 2 ?
woven vale
Bard could be considered support
Though it wont just be a buff bot
It'll give it's support in combat
(Bout all we know)
molten nebula
Were/are bow “auto-attacks” skill shots or tab targeted?
honest solstice
Any news about a Slime Mob ?
dire pond
We gonna have a skyrim 3rd person combat system
woven vale
We gonna have a skyrim 3rd person combat system
You can zoom into 1st person but it won't be supported/have animations
Combat will be natively 3rd person
With standard tab/action camera placements/zoom (and I believe you can customize camera placement as well)
dire pond
Nice
celest sequoia
plucky pawn
@dense raven If you don't see it update after you log out of the forums and back in, please go ahead and reach out to our support team so we can investigate further and assist you 😄
@celest sequoia were you looking for more information on the referral program in general? If so, we have a helpful support article here with more details: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036147094-What-is-the-referral-program-
Awesome @dense raven , glad to hear that worked for you 😄
south bridge
For moderation of the forums: Where is the line drawn? I mean Jahlon's post got copy-pasted and was "counted" as spam. Fine. But the post directly under his is a quote from somewhere not on that thread; which by definition is a cross-post, and is not allowed by the "Forum Rules & Code of Conduct" under rule 3. The same rule that deals with Spam. Just curious why the subjective was acted on but the objective was not?
ruby swift
Basically they use the obscenity rule. "I know it when I see it."
plucky pawn
@south bridge Hi there! Often times we rely on folks in the community to report posts to us that they believe may be rule-breaking, so that our moderation team can review further 😄 please go ahead and select the Flag > Report button in the bottom left corner of any post to send it our way for review!
If I'm looking at the same post you are, it looks like someone took a question that was asked more generally in another thread and was hoping to bring it to our attention directly for an answer during the live stream that's perfectly allowed, and I often encourage it if someone posts a thread with a question we haven't answered before!
Typically they don't quote text it in such a manner, but we do often encourage folks to bring their questions that aren't answered in other threads to our attention for the stream 😄 hope that makes sense!
south bridge
@plucky pawn But that is the very definition of a cross post. I'm sure you can see how I am having difficulty with the rules if they are subjective and not objective. If they are subjective I think maybe re-titling "Forum Rules & Code of Conduct" to "Forum Guidelines & Recommendations of Conduct"
plucky pawn
As I mentioned, please feel free to Flag > Report the post for further review with those details, and our moderation team will take a look and act accordingly!
Like I mentioned, typically in this case it would indeed be better to write the question fresh in the thread 😄 so as not to cause any confusion!
south bridge
So will it be deleted, like the "spam" was and they can rewrite it to follow with the rules?
plucky pawn
Our moderation team will review to see if it's rulebreaking and take action accordingly please feel free to DM me if you have any further questions or concerns regarding moderation!
left smelt
What is the difference between blacksmith, and the two, armor-smith and weapon-smith?
digital yacht
armor smith = armor
Weapon smite = weapon
Blacksmith = Tools
left smelt
Is it both armor and weapons? What type of tools?
tender hearthBOT
simple karma
tender hearthBOT
thin spear
can't find anything about Real money trading in there : (
dark jungle
gold selling is RMT
limber wharf
What do YOU mean by RMT @thin spear ?
Is there anything you were looking for specifically?
thin spear
just wonder how can dev will prevent player from selling item using real world money
limber wharf
I know how it is possible to police that, but I can't say what steps IS will do specifically.
digital yacht
just wonder how can dev will prevent player from selling item using real world m...
Security systems will be in place to combat cheating, exploiting, botting, gold selling, item duplication and other things that affect the economy
prime acorn
Any chance we could see a climbing/sneaking systemp comparable to assassins creed? Something about being able to scale trees/walls for tactical advantages in sieges sounds phenomenal
desert ivy
Climbing/Parkour is very limited. Basically limited to certain quests and very specific areas. Not gonna be a thing you can do everywhere
primal crater
When will we be able to reserve names?
desert ivy
We don't know. Originally it was during A1 but that's probably changed
prime acorn
Since there are active GMs in game will there be random GM sponsored events??! Some of my favorite memories of older games were interacting with gms and role-playing fun activities etc maybe gain unique titles or pets or something from them??
Also are there any collectors edition or RL merchandise that we can purchase? I would love to have something to commemorate this historical launch truthfully.
full badger
Also are there any collectors edition or RL merchandise that we can purchase? I...
Not right now, but there will likely be physical merchandise later on down the line 🙂
prime acorn
Thanks
Is there a list of weapons anywhere? I think coming up with unique weapons would be excellent like whip swords, flails, chain Kamas etc...could be a lot of fun
full badger
!wiki weapons
tender hearthBOT
prime acorn
I think having intermediate weapons such as the flail/whip sword could be cool especially if they factored in grapples with them like ivy from soul calibur
full badger
moving to #aoc-discussion @prime acorn
coral cove
will the game have dedicated asian servers?
burnt mist
Do we know how easy/hard it'll be to change your class/subclass? (or swap your crafting specialty?)
full badger
will the game have dedicated asian servers?
There will be OCE and SEA servers on launch, yes
full badger
Do we know how easy/hard it'll be to change your class/subclass? (or swap your c...
We don't have details but the devs have said you won't be able to change secondary classes "on the fly" out in the field.
burnt mist
I'm confused about what on the fly means. Does that rule out something like ArcheAge where you can go to a Shrine of Nui to change your class?
rigid rose
All the details are not known @burnt mist but they have said they want some effort put into changing the secondary class... maybe a quest of something ... is not known for sure yet what it will be. 🙂
full badger
@burnt mist https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes More information and reference quotes in here about it
ruby swift
@burnt mist There maybe was some confusion between changing augments and skill points, and changing secondary class. Primary archetype (first class) can never be changed. The secondary class that is chosen at 25 can be, with effort (still tbd, most likely time and gold sink). Augments and skill points related to those classes will have a mechanic to be changed in "rest" areas like freeholds, inns, and possible other locations. "on-the fly" means that you won't be miles away from a node settlement in the third sub level of a public dungeon and decide you would rather be throwing fireballs, instead of blinking, and re-allocating points.
brave swift
Is there anything you can do that will not be located in a zone of influence so you won't level a node?
rose wind
I suppose that depends on, for example:
- Will the oceans be covered by ZoI, and will there be content in them?
- Will instanced content count as belonging to the Node territory that the portal into the instance is in?
ruby swift
!wiki zoi
tender hearthBOT
ruby swift
@brave swift This specifically. "There is not a space where you will move in to do something and no node will get that experience.[6] – Steven Sharif"
brave swift
Thanks a lot!
rich socket
I have a question. is all equipment tradable?
dire pond
Some may be bound to a character, otherwise yes
crystal beacon
I have a question. is all equipment tradable?
The vast majority of gear is not bound according to Steven
woven vale
A sizeable combat rework is happening in March, so everything you see currently is subject to placeholder (ish)
uneven prairie
Sorry if this has been answered but do we know if there is going to be a system to become a "Hero", for example in Lineage 2 there was the Olympiad where the best person of each class had an aura around them
sterile shoal
I have a question - do we know how many citizens each stages of the node will hold?
I remember seeing something about it being limited, but I don’t remember the number
spiral jasper
I'm just gonna try this
sterile shoal
@spiral jasper buddy I got this
spiral jasper
!wiki node citizens
tender hearthBOT
sterile shoal
Right, but do we have a current number of how many housing there will be in Stage 3?
@simple ether
And i’m assuming that each apartment only holds one person?
tired loom
Question, where do I post suggestions for the game. I've got an idea for the corruption system involving the religion system. (The highest ranking religious characters in each religion being able to perform ceremonies to clear corruption, or a portion of it, for other players.)
dark jungle
creating a thread on the forums is probably the best venue
tired loom
Will do after work. Just had the idea mid break and needed to know where to post after I figure out the specifics.
plucky pawn
Yupyup as noted, joining us over on the forums and posting a longer-form discussion is a great place to share it! https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/aoc-general-discussion
junior light
Silly question, are there guns in Ashes as of weaponry? Or has science not gone far enough.
junior light
You'd think that'd be no issue with magic, but ok. Here's to hoping for one-hand crossbows.
desert ivy
Plus apparently even after being on Sanctus for thousands of years they can't invent modern technology
We're fucking idiots apparently
junior light
It'd be funny if they have one-hand crossbows though, that'd be quite the rogue build.
ruby swift
The physics of Verra are complex. There may indeed be other means of combustion. Just no black powder has been confirmed. Also, whiteboard development ideas from 2017 in some cases were brought more into line with reality of game design and marketing. So answer is: Maybe?
desert elm
Verra is lacking any saltpeter, so gunpowder is impossible... problem solved 🤓
ruby swift
Verra will not lack in salt, or Peter. Peter brings the softness.
limber yew
is there gonna be any unique items with a restricted drop, say there can only be 5 of them on any given server?
honestly, every single thing i try to come up with is already in the game, might as well start saving to buy a beta key to help polish it
snow vine
do we know if Rogues regardless of secondary archetype can be built as a competent archer like the Fighter?
desert ivy
Has Fighter ever been said to be a competent archer?
snow vine
let's say able to compete in single target dps with a mage and/or ranger for the definition of competent
desert ivy
Yeah that's definitely not gonna be a thing
snow vine
I'm assuming we aren't going to be building for weapon swaps if it costs skill points to advance a particular weapon
gotcha, thanks!
ornate sail
Will there be any designs shown for 1 handed hammers? Im genuinely excited to see more designs and concepts
lean marlin
we'll see hammers at some point, when that is we have no idea.
spiral jasper
!wiki citizen housing
tender hearthBOT
near stump
@snow vine a dps meter may also not be a thing, Steven has said verbally he does not like them
woven vale
<@672928648659206154> a dps meter may also not be a thing, Steven has said verba...
There will be combat logs in ashes but they will require analysis/etc. However, addons/native dps meters are against TOS
And not allowed
snow vine
<@672928648659206154> a dps meter may also not be a thing, Steven has said verba...
I know about the (lack of) meters, I'm more curious about whether or not going something like rogue with a bow could be viable in arenas, f.e.
digital yacht
too early to tell
snow vine
yup, got that already, I'm a patient man 🙂
steady ocean
Just remember that some skills will require certain weapons. For example, a melee ability will require melee weapons. So while a rogue can use a bow, it may limit the number of skills available to you. That being said, we will have the option to spec into weapon based skill points on the skill tree, which will really determine how flexible we can be with our characters, and like has been mentioned, is not known at this time. @snow vine
limber yew
is there btw a death timer before you can respawn? didnt see anything on the wiki
full badger
is there btw a death timer before you can respawn? didnt see anything on the wik...
There's been no mention of a death timer in Ashes
dire pond
Except in sieges or caravan events?
dapper lake
silly question, but can shields possibly be used as weapons?
full badger
silly question, but can shields possibly be used as weapons?
There may be a shield bash type ability but they are mostly for defence
crystal beacon
A shield throw like captain america would be neat...
dapper lake
I remeber seeing that as an ability
lone magnet
when can people show game ?
molten nebula
!wiki alphas
tender hearthBOT
molten nebula
when can people show game ?
No-NDA alpha 1 testing starts March 19
lone magnet
they better not delay it
molten nebula
I don’t think they would but I hope they don’t either. If they chose to do so, I bet we would hear about it in the livestream this Friday or the one in February
The pvp flagging system makes it to where if you fight back, the death penalties are less impactful.
What if I’m fighting mobs out in the world (unflagged) and get really low and get one-shot by another player?
Do I still experience the unflagged death penalties?
grim breach
Yes. Death is death. Death penalty occurs whether or not you are flagged as combatant or not.
Death penalties also do not differ between PvP and PvE.
molten nebula
There are different levels of penalties aren’t there?
grim breach
Basically:
Green (non-combatant) = 100% penalty rate
Purple (combatant) = Half of Green's rate
Red (corrupted) = 4x of Green's rate
molten nebula
If I’m out grinding mobs and don’t want a fight, I’ll probably not flag myself for pvp. My point is that it would be nice to have a grace period where an encounter has to last a certain amount of time in an open world PvP to get the unflagged penalties
grim breach
And since you mentioned you're unflagged, which means you're Green, the player who killed you would gain Corruption. Depends on their PK count + level gap between the two of you, they may get a lot of Corruption.
grim breach
If I’m out grinding mobs and don’t want a fight, I’ll probably not flag myself f...
It doesn't matter, the death penalties do not differ between PvP or PvE. If you die, you die. You can be killed whether or not you are flagged for PvP.
molten nebula
I think y’all are missing the point lol
I understand how player death works
I guess since player death is such a big deal (due to the penalties) that will probably incentivize me to not pull big groups
Bc of the risk to die from the mobs or from a ganker
Very adversarial way to put that but okay 🙃
solemn sun
Yeah he didn't ask about whether or not you think solo farming is fun Jahlon
To answer your question @molten nebula , yeah pulling large PvE mobs also makes you susceptible to be opportunistically ks'ed by a player, we haven't heard anything to my knowledge about there being any safeties for PvE players in that regard
thorny warren
Benji did mention pulling big groups, i think Jahlon just wanted to say that the worry he expressed is not needed since the situation most likely wont appear?
mint citrus
Do we have any idea roughly how long it will take to hit 20 during A1?
steady ocean
Nope, that info is currently under NDA
ionic arch
Is there a way to see the things I achieved in the battle royale battle pass?
Like, the skins etc. you got for playing
or rather will get
arctic swift
Maybe in your inventory? I wasnt there so im not sure
ionic arch
inventory? How do I acess that?
arctic swift
intrepid studios account
full badger
No worries
ionic arch
You don't, by any chance, know if there will be both an action aswell as a free camera?
full badger
Right now there is a toggle between "tab target" mode and "action mode"
@ionic arch https://youtu.be/8WQ_BBwK5LA?t=902 This video has more information on it
full badger
No, it's more like TERA if you ever played that
ionic arch
Yea I did and loved it. But tera was locked action camera until you had to go to the menue, right?
full badger
Actually wait, yes GW2 has the same system as well
ionic arch
not talking about the combat here, just the camera itself
ruby swift
There are previous quotes of fully customizable camera use. But whether those intentions make it to release remains to be seen.
full badger
Probably best to just watch the video I linked to get a good idea of what it is currently like
limber yew
whats the limit on alts in the alpha rn?
spiral pine
there is an NDA on the alpha
limber yew
sigh, whats the planned limit on alts then?
spiral pine
"There will be a comfortable level of character slots available"
limber yew
aight
steep mural
19th of march ,great .Time to download twitch again
dense echo
Small question regarding the packages in the shop. As I understood the cosmetics are on the constant rotation for those - are they always unique or you can expect something to re-appear? also from what I understood by reading packages - if you get one, you will be able to get future cosmetics for extra $, but not the previous ones? tl;dr - will there be a possibility to gain previously featured cosmetics in any way?
steady ocean
They will not come back in the same form in the shop.
ruby swift
dense echo
"same form" - meaning you might be able to get some/all of them but as a separate thing, not as a bundle?
ooh puts glasses on, ty @ruby swift
ruby swift
^^
"that players who purchase these can rest assured they won't be available again in some sale by the company in the future."
dense echo
yep, got that, thank you for the info all 👍
tired thicket
Hello everyone! I have a question that may be hard to answer because maybe the developing team hasn't considered it. We already know that there is a distinction between one-handed and two-handed weapons but my question is if our characters could adopt a fighting style for one-handed weapons so it would appear that we use two hands (where it would make sense i.e. a sword). My reasoning is that sometimes a sword could be considered both one-handed and two-handed depending on how the user would like to use it and I think that the immersion would be cool! Thank you.
ah I see well ty for the response!
toxic hazel
Is the live stream tomorrow? Link?
celest rose
when is this game coming out?
civic obsidian
no date
desert ivy
Some time in the future
placid zodiac
"Future!" - Squidward Tentacles
pine wave
Just out of curiosity does intrepid plan on having interns in the future if theyre not already doing so? I think i remember hearing something about it in a broadcast awhile back. Any info would be great (: thanks in advance!
lusty kite
@pine wave https://intrepidstudios.com/careers I do believe they will keep such information on this site. And here is a link to LieutenantToast on the topic: #questions message
full badger
@crystal beacon There are no plans to have an open beta. If you want to gain access to the testing phases you'll need to buy a pre-order pack: https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
pseudo onyx
What is the likelihood of you going back on microtransactions for cosmetics?
ruby swift
crystal beacon
Do we know an approximate population size a single node will be designed for? I'm talking available lvling content in a node and such... if 4 alliance's of 300 members each share a node, will there be a bind up on leveling from over population at times?
full badger
Do we know an approximate population size a single node will be designed for? I'...
Well, we know how large the map is going to be (480km2) and that there will be 118 nodes on the map, so that will give you a rough idea. Of course, it's hard to tell if this will be big enough to avoid overpopulation of a single node. Testing will tell us more on that front 🙂
I believe he's talking more about mobs and grinding spots, than node housing @simple ether
In the zones of influence
crystal beacon
Well, if expanding the housing increases the citizens... then possibly it would increase the available lvling content in the node?
full badger
The zone of influence of a node increases in size as the node levels up
crystal beacon
Thanks
pseudo onyx
what if there is a clash between the zone of influences of two growing nodes?
silk wind
do we have a timeframe on the new website
molten nebula
do we have a timeframe on the new website
Believe they said it would be done in January or February
silk wind
thanks brother
bronze sable
true, but as it's zone of influence expands isn't there a chance that it runs into the zone of another node of the same level?
I wanted to ask that as someone with a smaller guild (15-20 people) is there a way to protect ourselves from just being zerged by some bigger guilds, or do we just have to rely on alliances?
steady ocean
I wanted to ask that as someone with a smaller guild (15-20 people) is there a w...
Alliances and defense treaties will be your main form of protection, with the possibility of hiring mercs as well.
bronze sable
well time to find a place for our freehold that's out of the way for everyone I guess 😄
steady ocean
Just remember that others cannot attack you on your freehold unless your node has been successfully sieged/destroyed and it is the 2 hour time following the end of the siege. So you really only need to worry about open world excursions in terms of being attacked by larger groups.
bronze sable
yeah, I know, but still that's a two hour window 😄
arctic sky
Also the larger the guild the more points they will have to have invested in increasing their guild size while smaller guilds will invest those points in other things
tulip hatch
There is currently no ETA on tests further out after the current A1 playdates
Any further information will be provided as we approach the next test phase, itll be announced on all social media, as well as emailed to those signed to the mailing list
Yep youre welcome
stuck dock
Do we know if breeding will be an active task or mainly just setting up a pair to breed and then waiting?
bronze sable
how more active do you want it to be?
steady ocean
Do we know if breeding will be an active task or mainly just setting up a pair t...
We don't know at this time.
desert elm
I think he means is it 1+1=2, or are there other factors you can adjust throughout the breeding process to make 1+1+x=y, for example. Growth boosters, chemical injections, augments, etc
bold bear
Please tell me you don't do that kind of stuff irl.
dark jungle
there is some information on this but no details are expected to be revealed as they want players to discover the breeding compendium in game
!wiki breeding mechanics
tender hearthBOT
slender hare
question on the pre-order packs, if I get lets say the $250 one but later want to upgrade (within the timeframe of the same items) does the price adjust? (since it states you won't unlock duplicate cosmetic items of the same type (Accessory, Pet, Mount, etc.) or is the price set regardless if you have the lower tier packs?
dark jungle
you only pay the difference between the old and new pack, you dont get duplicates
slender hare
Right so if i get the $250 then later want to nab the $375 I only pay $125?
dark jungle
correct
slender hare
bless
bronze sable
that's pretty cool
slender hare
Ya I've had game do single items then later put them in bundles, only to lock the price without adjusting for duplicates, glad there doing it XD
steep mason
HI, is it alowed to restream tomorrow someone knows?
quartz coral
Resteam what?
steep mason
the livestream
quartz coral
Pretty sure it’s ok ... not sure why it wouldn’t be ?
steep mason
maybe they want all viewer on their own channel
digital yacht
nah ur fine
quartz coral
Naaahh I highly doubt it
steep mason
i´m a verry small guy on twitch but i like to watch with my small community and talk about.- in my mind this game has big potencial to get better than wow.
better / bigger than wow 😉
tulip hatch
Its fine to do, as long as you do not claim to be an official source or originator of said content
quartz coral
^^
steep mason
thx for this fast answers 🙂 sad that i heard too late about this game. Now its impssible to get alpha release version. an big pack is too expensive for a small one like me 😉
arctic sky
The might..MIGHT... Bring alpha 1 keys back. It's been discussed if they need more testers it could happen.
arctic sky
Also you can upgrade your pack over time
Start with the 75 then pay the difference to the next when you have the cash etc
severe cloud
has there been any news about the EU site/offices i missed? so we EU folks can buy at a normal price?
mint citrus
Fingers crossed they re-release some A1 packages 🙂
severe cloud
im asuming VAT applies to the upgrade of the packs as well right?
thats the problem ^^. it gets +100 for the big pack
bronze sable
If it's that expensive then just buy the lower pack
serene prism
Hello I couldn't find the info on the date of the beta and also the limit date to which one can buy a beta key
The 75$ option
severe cloud
i don't think either is known yet
woven vale
Hello I couldn't find the info on the date of the beta and also the limit date t...
Beta won't be happening anytime soon hence no date
The only testing we know of is A1
serene prism
Beta won't be happening anytime soon hence no date
Oh, guess that's why I didn't find it
arctic sky
They also give warning before taking packages off the store
And the cosmetics that can come with each pack changes monthly
serene prism
The only testing we know of is A1
I would buy the most expensive one without thinking if it wasn't so expensive to buy it because my country's money value is so low compared to dollars.
I literally discovered this game yesterday and am pretty much in love with it
arctic sky
You can always wait until launch and just pay the sub price
woven vale
I would buy the most expensive one without thinking if it wasn't so expensive to...
Currently you can only purchase A2 (and that testing phase still hasn't been announced)
As a1 purchases were taken
arctic sky
The game is already fully funded without the packages being bought
woven vale
I would buy the most expensive one without thinking if it wasn't so expensive to...
Though when it comes to sub on game launch you may have the option of price harmonization
!wiki payment model
tender hearthBOT
serene prism
You can always wait until launch and just pay the sub price
The game looks like everything I've ever wanted in a mmo and more. I really wanted to play it ASAP
arctic sky
The game looks like everything I've ever wanted in a mmo and more. I really want...
These testing phases are true testing phases.. Alpha will be all bugs and partial systems
Beta will have changes but a bit more consistency
serene prism
As a1 purchases were taken
Oh, didn't knew. I'm waiting to see if dollar comes a bit for for my country to save some money when I do the purchase
I'm really tempted to buy the A2
arctic sky
Oh! Also there is the referral system
serene prism
The game is already fully funded without the packages being bought
Wow that's great to hear
serene prism
Though when it comes to sub on game launch you may have the option of price harm...
I've heard about that, and it's a relief