questions

[crystal beacon]

Gotcha, was just wonderin if there was a date for it yet

[west snow]

are there weekly/monthly wipes on alpha testing ? 😮

[crystal beacon]

They did say they we're going to do a wipe for Alpha to Beta but that's all they said

[steady ocean]

@west snow

At the bottom of each of these it shows that the devs intend to wipe after each preview

[west snow]

oof.. so the game wont be released anytime soon XD

well.. its worth the wait * ^ *

[crystal beacon]

facts

[sharp vapor]

Have they said anything about when we will get more information or their class system aside from the kits they’ve been releasing

Lol

Fair thanks

[steady ocean]

No specific dates, only that in the lead up to the various test phases they will be dropping more info on the archetypes and such.

[sharp vapor]

Ok great thanks guys

[cursive silo]

are there any dates on alpha 2?i heard it was May before

[steady ocean]

No

April 6th-May 6th is the month long Alpha 1

[cursive silo]

waiting to see what the new skins look like for the voyager pack. Can you buy the new month skins if you like them with the embers you receive? or are those only for the packs for pre ordering

ahhh ok so if i buy voyager pre order pack now i can't get any of the future monthly skins? like so?

https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041639433-2020-Monthly-Cosmetics

ahh ok i see, but you can't buy old ones anymore right? they are gone

thanks for link

will these items be tradeable?

[steady ocean]

No

[cursive silo]

so no cosmetics will be tradeable?

ahhh ok i see thanks!

[bright dagger]

Any one know if the month long alpha test will wipe?

[oak depot]

I believe they could also easily start everyone next to a quest giver that grants 20 levels of XP if they wanted to... software development is great.

[primal talon]

Yes it is shown that it will wipe

[acoustic wing]

Just curious question, seeing as OCE has dedicated servers for AoC, should we separate NA-OCE guild recruitment and make them there own 2 channels? <@&256789677930053632> if you know the answer to this would be great to know :)

[onyx knoll]

It was considered, but currently there just isn't enough interest in the OCE region to justify their own recruitment channel. Once we have more people in those regions that want to get guilds going, we might reconsider 🙂

[acoustic wing]

I completely understand that thank you!

[ocean siren]

It’s that double edged sword. OCE players won’t commit to a game because usually there isn’t servers in their region but devs wont commit to an OCE server because their isn’t much interest from the region. I’m glad AoC have servers for us!

[crystal beacon]

What's the min character limit for the Name Reservation?

[dark jungle]

3

[crystal beacon]

Thanks!

[manic vapor]

where do i reserve a name xD

There can only be one Ryker out of the tens of thousands

out of thousands

[native gorge]

Yeah feels bad, this turns off so many players cause no one wants to play on 170 ping, especially an MMO

[night furnace]

Now at least. I started playing MMOs with ~200 ping, so while it's not what I'd prefer, it is doable, even if you are slightly slow to react

[quiet flower]

Have the devs given an idea on what the core design principle is behind the summoner is? Based on information available from the wiki and interviews, it seems like they want it to be the jack of all trades class that can fill in for more specialized classes, comparable to how a world of warcraft druid can essentially fulfill every role (ranged dps, physical dps, tanking, and healing), but how far do the developers intend to allow summoners to go?

For example, suppose I had a summoner primary and became a Brood Warden (tank secondary) and focused all my skill points on augmenting my tanky summon to make it the best I possibly could. Can I replace a tank primary in high end raids? If a percentage were to be put to it, where 100% means I can fully replace a class in all circumstances, 50% means I can fulfill the role in "casual" content but not in any "hardcore," "difficult," or "serious" content, and 0% means I lack the basic tools to possibly fulfill a role in the trinity system at all (trying to be a healer, but lacking any heal spells whatsoever for example), roughly what percentage of the trinity roles can a default summoner fulfill? What about a summoner that tries to specialize?

[full badger]

@quiet flower I think that question is more suitable to the forums than on here, as we don't have a solid answer this early in development and it is very much open for discussion. Feel free to copy-paste it into a thread here: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/aoc-general-discussion

[quiet flower]

ok, thanks

[sour junco]

Alpha Island being 20-25% of the entire map: How do we only see 9 nodes? Will the average node be waaaay smaller than Alpha-Island nodes or is that 20-25% just very wrong?

[dark jungle]

alpha island has lower than normal node density

!wiki alpha-1

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1

[sour junco]

Alright, that explains something. Just wondered if the Node-Interaction is the key gameplay component, why make it harder by increasing the distance of node capitals for Alpha thanks though @dark jungle

[chilly patrol]

Hello I have a question regarding the offical AOC forums: Can I make posts in languages other than english?

[onyx knoll]

At the moment, all forum categories support English threads; posts or threads in other languages may be removed accordingly.

[steady ocean]

Not at the moment. It's possible in the future @chilly patrol

[chilly patrol]

Ok

[crystal beacon]

do people with Alpha 1 keys from the most recent giveaway have the Name Reservation perk?

[lean marlin]

no. you have a key.

[crystal beacon]

Oh

that perk only comes via bought pack correct?

[signal inlet]

There is apparently last names. As long as the first name does not have to be exclusive a name Res will not be that big of a deal

I have no idea if they have said anything about it though

[crystal beacon]

ye well regardless I just wanted to know for the sake of knowing

[lean marlin]

You have to have a pack that has it, or up to whatever tier it was in KS that gave them. Other than that, no. You have a key..

[pale aspen]

As long as they don't block all "symbols" that are part of different languages like ^ ´ ` and so on, name reservations shouldn't be a big deal, I think

Well some yes, but those I named are part of the french vocabulary, german, danish, czech etc have different ones too. I think everyone also has access to them with the extended key commands or what they're called, I'm not 100% sure on that tho

[crystal beacon]

thank you

[honest lava]

I'm not sure if this the right place to ask this, but I have some questions about harassment and player punishment.

Considering it is a game slightly upholding a PVP mindset when it comes to the destruction of cities/towns/villages, there is going to be a significant level of toxicity involved from players and while players have some level of freedom, what is going to be considered harassment and 'player banter' and what's going to be the level that's considered crossing the line and a player can be reported?

[dark jungle]

you will probably get deeper responses to this on the forums tbh

[honest lava]

I probably will get a significantly better response on the forum.

[humble trout]

think as long as ur not beeing racist or sexist most shit will fly?

i mean its a pvp game, shittalking is a big part of the content

[honest lava]

It won't matter what I say or what other players say, so taking this to the forums. Thanks.

[steady ocean]

@honest lava

[honest lava]

That doesn't exactly answer the questions I had and are a little more indepth, but that does help me in a certain aspect. Scrounging through the forums though, I found the PVP system and explored that a bit. Is there an actual location on how PVP flagging and corruption works? Because all I've seen is a severe punishment for players who don't PVP versus people who grief others just getting a bad rep.

[desert ivy]

The Ashes of Creation Wiki or Ashes101

[honest lava]

Thank you.

[steady ocean]

!wiki pvp

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pvp

[desert ivy]

https://ashes101.com/pvp

[woven vale]

I'd rec ashes101 for pvp > wiki.

[honest lava]

So what does 100% death penalty look like on someone who dies? It sounds like a complete level in negative experience, but that would be silly for a single death.

[steady ocean]

We don't have the specifics from what is publicly known. But I doubt it is anywhere near a full level. You'll lose some raw mats/craftables if you have some in your inventory, and gain some exp debt after you spawn at the closest spawn location.

[crystal flax]

It's also determined by your state

[steady ocean]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death If you want to read the details of what has been revealed @honest lava

[honest lava]

I read through the stuff that was there, but I didn't see the exact details on how much was lost, or what a 100% looked like to various levels, but if it hasn't been revealed yet, nothing can be done. Thank you.

[crystal beacon]

Is there a roadmap for alpha?

[onyx knoll]

!wiki release schedule

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule

[onyx knoll]

this alpha 1 schedule is all we have so far

[viscid ermine]

is there any pool on what classes people gonna play. fun to see what people picks.

[digital yacht]

not even close to release so no1 is gunna know unil they see the full classes

[steady ocean]

@viscid ermine There have been a few polls on the AoC reddit

[woeful sage]

so daggers wont be individual weapons? the wiki says only dual daggers

[vagrant loom]

I notice that Massively OP currently has a poll for the Most Anticipated game for 2021 and beyond. Are we allowed to post that link anywhere to see if we can get more votes?

[steady ocean]

#aoc-discussion

[vagrant loom]

thank you

[oak depot]

Are Dragon Mounts consider Royal Mounts? I think not but curious on other opinions

[steady ocean]

Some could be

The Emberstorm and Ochre Legion dragons are royal mount skins (when applied to a tier 3 mount), for example.

When Steven himself says that they are, I go by that

I did. I said some could, as I do not know every single plan the devs have for dragons. Therefor I gave the known information based on the wiki, which is backed up by quotes (where I heard Steven mention that dragons are intended to be royal mounts).

They can be a gliding mount skin, true, if applied to a tier 2 mount. They can also be a flying mount if you hold the position that allows you access flying mounts (or applied to a tier 3 mount).

[oak depot]

A mount from a hatched from a Dragon Egg is Tier 3 right?

I see... I was hoping Dragon T3 could be mounted airborne outside of Royal Stables

I assumed incorrectly that Royal referred to Mayor or Monarch exclusively... not someone who finds and hatches an egg

[sharp vapor]

What does action combat look like for bows. ie. will it be more like New World or WoW. I couldn’t find that information anywhere but was curious if anyone here knew thanks

Cool thanks

[humble trout]

we will see combat in march

[sharp vapor]

Ah good to know

[humble trout]

we will see everything in march, as then the non NDA A1 tests start and it will be all over twitch

(if no delays)

[pastel coral]

Wonder how many have gotten a2 keys

[jaunty wadi]

Does anyone know if a player will be able to be attacked within a player owned freehold? I know you can’t be attacked whilst occupying a player owned store wondering if it was the same in this case

[oak depot]

you can close the doors

in your own freehold... and thus bar entry

[smoky raft]

no you can't be attacked

[oak depot]

^ with the exception of 2-hours following a successful node siege under which ZOI your freehold was built

[jaunty wadi]

What about in the area surrounding your house though not including inside but say the stable or blacksmith

[oak depot]

@jaunty wadi !wiki Safe Zones

[tender hearth]

wiki results

1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mobs>

...Things-That-Should-Not-Be. This does not mean that wilderness areas are safe, by any means. Some may be safe-er, but all will have dangers that even the most experienced...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Zone_of_influence>

.... Our world is separated into zones, which are then separated into what we call nodes. Nodes are sort of invisible zones of influence that listen to everything...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Leveling>

...Things-That-Should-Not-Be. This does not mean that wilderness areas are safe, by any means. Some may be safe-er, but all will have dangers that even the most experienced...

[oak depot]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP#Safe_zones

Players cannot be killed by other players while inside (the footprint of)[130] their freehold.[131]

[jaunty wadi]

Thanks

[crystal beacon]

Will the cosmetics in the voyager packs and stuff be available in the in game market or just in the preorder package?

[jaunty wadi]

Pretty sure it’s limited time only once that months up it changes and the offer is gone

[crystal beacon]

can anyone confirm this?

[steady ocean]

They will not be available again in the shop. You may find variants out in the game, but not the exact skin you see in the cosmetic shop.

[sly monolith]

european website aint up or is it?

[ruby swift]

Nope, don't expect it to be anytime soon. They have to hire the people, get the Amsterdam office up and running, have their people fix their US site, then you might see EU. But hey, maybe they have some secret reveal planned for the new year.

[fickle wigeon]

Will we be able to grow hostile plants in our freeholds

[full badger]

We don't yet know what kind of things you can grow on your freehold. Being able to grow plants that attack your enemies during a freehold attack would be kinda cool though.

[fickle wigeon]

That was what I had in my mind exactly

[lone wadi]

Have we seen any teasers for the January cosmetics.

[tulip hatch]

No, they're also on vacation

However the cosmetics dont cycle until January 13th
So we'll probably see something that week before they cycle

[lone magnet]

Do the mods here get paid?

[lone wadi]

Thanks @tulip hatch

[full badger]

No, we are purely volunteers

[dire pond]

Ill pay them back with in game gold.

[dire pond]

Mods cannot join a guild in ashes, but can they join anothet server on discord related to ashes?

[ruby swift]

As long as it doesn't lead to accusations of favoritism, probably. I had a guy in another game who would scream that he had a pocket mod that would ban people for him. He did not meet a good end.

[dire pond]

Hmm yeah i see your point.

[tulip hatch]

We can join other ashes discords even guild discords
Just as a normal guests mind you
But yes it can be tricky with how people interpret that

[dire pond]

Great

[lone wadi]

well, you could argue that mods get to have the entire community as a guild 🙂 which is kinda cool

[tulip hatch]

Aha some might say we're on their KoS list though!
A funny conversation to continue in #general-discussion though c:
lets leave questions for folks seeking help!

[stark solstice]

Hi all, quick question. Is there a limit to how many players can participate in Alpha 2?

[lean marlin]

nope. so long as you have a key for it, you'll be in it.

[stark solstice]

thanks Legion, and how are these keys distributed? I bought the Voyager Pack, where can I find it? Or is it an email that will be sent?

[lean marlin]

check your inventory on the account page on the store site.

[stark solstice]

Is it the "Tracking Number"?

[lean marlin]

no. i'll dm you give me a sec

[stark solstice]

Thanks

[crystal beacon]

Will all 64 class options be available to testers in alpha 1?

[lean marlin]

no.

[crystal beacon]

Do we know which ones will be available

[lean marlin]

I think it was , mage, cleric, tank, and fighter? Can't remember. But it's only a few primary archetypes in the test. More in A2.

[crystal beacon]

Riiiip

[steady ocean]

Classes come in Alpha 2, since in Alpha 1 you can only level up to lvl 20. Classes require level 25.

[desert ivy]

Ranger will be in A1 as well

By the end of A1 all the archetypes should be in, but those are the ones that will be in the April test

[digital yacht]

U dont get a physical redeemable key, it becomes tied in with ur account name/email. When u login during A2 ur account will have access

[arctic sky]

And everything is subject to change due to development

[woven vale]

Also you are lying as it no testing is occurring today.

[desert ivy]

Tfw he got baited and downloaded a virus

[woven vale]

Runescape but...shittier

[still wyvern]

@crystal beacon Please note that Alpha 2 is not even out and currently, Alpha 1 is under NDA, so users cannot give out details at this time.

Please refer to the screenshot as provided by @woven vale as it's an official one that was released to us by Intrepid.

[crystal beacon]

Ah yeah cool, must have been mistaken! post removed 🙂

[crystal beacon]

Haha wtf! i actually did! was way to interested in trying it out instead of checking even what name it was! 😛

hope i get out of the easy^^

Hope i didnt mess up anything calling out a wrong game! actually this made me really really happy to understand that i was totally wrong! Still got hopes for AoC!!!

[chilly summit]

Quick question, will there be Augments for abilities that will heal you based on damage done or armor, like lifesteal in some games?

OK thx

[tall hemlock]

what can i do to play the game RIGHT NOW or as soon as possible what is needed to get into testing

[lean marlin]

You can't play right now. The only way for you to get in (to the testing phases) is to buy a pack. Closest has A2.

[steady ocean]

Alpha 2 testing via the official website store. That test phase may be close to a year out. Otherwise keep an eye on the dev updates in case they decide to open up Alpha 1 sales. @tall hemlock

[crystal beacon]

Spend the $150 or whatever for alpha 2

Wait $150 is for beta

The $250 pack is for alpha 2

[tall hemlock]

damn

[woven vale]

250 or 375 (depending on what cosmetic tier you want)

It is impossible to buy A1 as of now

[midnight wolf]

Go back in time and back the kickstarter to get access to the alphas and a lifetime subscription

[ruby swift]

Why would I do that. I am already forward in time.

[midnight wolf]

For the memes

[crystal beacon]

if i buy the $75 pre order pack how long i got to play?

[steady ocean]

You will need to wait until the Beta 2 testing phase begins. The date for that has not been released.

[crystal beacon]

so if i buy a preorder package i ahve to wait til alpha/beta to be released in order to play?

[steady ocean]

Yes. The game isn't in early access or in open testing. It is closed testing based on the package you buy.

[crystal beacon]

oh ok, thx

[radiant prairie]

WHEN THE GAME WILL BE OPENED IN EUROPE
?

[marble basin]

Release date has not been set

[barren bridge]

How long does it normally take to get a response to a refund request?

[crystal beacon]

What kind of control will be on the movement? Will there be wasd or arrow keys or will there be mouse click to move?

[lean marlin]

more than likely wasd.

[dark jungle]

on new year's eve? not sure really, but i wouldnt expect a response until they return to work

[south bridge]

With all the extra attention since The Lazy Peon's video, and Ashes currently leading nearly double the next closest on Massively OP’s 2020 Awards: Most Anticipated MMO community poll; when can we expect the AoC website to get an update? Going there currently makes it look like Apoc is still in the future, or that the game has failed to launch. I think an update would go far do change the optics that make some think this is a scam, I know it's not; but the website doesn't help the look.

[ruby swift]

They have been working on it. From comments made in livestreams they are having/had some difficulty finding people with the correct talents. Thing about everyone going work from home, those that do IT shot up in demand. Until then, take Steven's advice, and if you have doubts, don't purchase anything.

[barren bridge]

@dark jungle I sent in a request 6 days ago

[crystal beacon]

6 days ago was Christmas lol

[digital yacht]

they are out of work untiil the 4th

[ivory zealot]

In the current iteration of the game, are the 64 different classes fully implemented yet?

So those 5 are currently implemented?

Oh, right right

Thank you

[fossil hill]

Any news on when alpha 1 I'd I hardly follow atm

Thanks bud

[grave dirge]

Ashes community I need help. I can't log into my ashes account due to my 2 step authentication. I got a new phone and didn't swap it over and I don't have the recovery code anymore. Any help?

@simple ether I've put in 2 tickets and its been about a week since the first one I believe.

I figured that

Guess I just play the waiting game. I submitted the second because I feel like I didn't include enough information in the first.

But thanks for the help! @simple ether

[steady ocean]

As of now they've talked about 3 person boats, 8 person boats, and up to 40 person boats @crystal beacon

Still will need a lot of testing, so subject to change

[chilly summit]

is the ship building modular or do you just create full on boats ? I can imagine a 3 person boat having 3 modules, an 8 person boat 5-6 modules and a 40 person boat 12-14 modules. Would be cool to just create different parts and then mix them together as needed or wanted. Any information on the crafting system there ?

so modular or complete boats ? or does this mean that weapons sails and so on are "parts" that need to be crafted and can be put on full on finished ships ?

[undone flare]

Hi jahlon your videos are the best

[chilly summit]

so you buy full ship designs and then build them ?

I see

so the system isn't in place yet

[steady ocean]

@chilly summit Will give you an idea https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ship_building

[chilly summit]

So different ship parts are modular, but the ship itself isn't made up of modular parts.

[steady ocean]

Base ship and you upgrade it with parts to increase various stats seems like @chilly summit

[chilly summit]

I guess it makes sense to limit the player in such a way or we would inevitably end up with a spacedick xd

[dusk nova]

i haven't been paying attention the last week or so... in the last dev stream when they were fighting the 2 bosses, I believe they were lvl 10 and meant for 40 people? What happens when you are lvl 50 (or whatever the max lvl is)?

[steady ocean]

You probably 1 shot those bosses

similar to other MMOs

[fathom acorn]

Is there no zone descaling?

Like where it weakens someone for an area

[steady ocean]

No

[dusk nova]

hmmm

[fathom acorn]

ty

[steady ocean]

You need to look into how the node zones work. As a node levels up, it starts to spawn higher level mobs.

It isn't a linear zone progression like WoW has. It's all based on the areas around the developed nodes.

So there will both higher level mobs and lower level mobs eventually (in part due to how the node vassal system and zones of influence work)

[shut meteor]

This may be a dumb question; but I haven't been able to find any info on it yet. Is there a date slated for the Alpha 2? or has it not been decided/announced yet?

[steady ocean]

No, only Alpha 1 dates have been revealed.

[shut meteor]

Ok, Ty

[broken leaf]

where can i send a suggestion about the game? things i think its useful for a more immersive mmorpg?

ty

[crystal beacon]

Do we know what the “normal” party size will be?

[lean marlin]

8 people.

[short flint]

Currently 8/16/40 are the expected group sizes for events/dungeons.

But you can group anywhere from 1-40 from what we know.

[valid tulip]

Can we get a new year's gift? A picture or a video or two of alpha?

[quartz coral]

Can you imagine if this community had 2 jahlons .... every question EVER asked by man would be answered.

[novel galleon]

I was also gonna ask when Jahlon is gonna clone himself or just makes a FAQ where you can enter questions and the FAQ AI gonna answer 😄

[spiral pine]

there is a wiki bot though

[cursive silo]

are the kickstarter packages no longer available?

[spiral pine]

correct

[desert ivy]

They haven't been available since 2017

[civic heart]

how long do i have to buy a key before the alpha/beta for that key is released?

since alpha one has yet to be released and you can no longer buy a key

[desert ivy]

We don't know any dates for any tests except the Alpha 1 ones happening within the next 5 months. They've said they'll give a few weeks notice at least before they take the alpha 2 key off the store

[orchid kiln]

Is there any link someone can send with a list of benefits that backers receive now? 🙂 or is the only benefit of backing future cosmetics and alpha/beta access?

[wraith leaf]

I believe that it is only the cosmetics and alpha/beta access

you do also get a couple months subscription too

[orchid kiln]

I see. I was considering the $375 package but i didn't want to buy it if there is no benefit of getting anything while i have to wait for alpha 2.

[wraith leaf]

You also get building I think

I am going to get the $175

[lean marlin]

Voyage+ gives you, a pet, mount skin, caravan skin, outfit, game time, in store currency, keys for tests, and an outfit.

[desert ivy]

Just click on the View More Info button

[civic heart]

theres a page i saw for release date schedules

alpha ones scheduled for april i believe

[orchid kiln]

Yes, I saw the view more info section. 🙂 I was more just wondering if there were more things not listed there. Not sure I feel comfortable paying hundreds to back the game if theres nothing gained now.

[wraith leaf]

It was March

[desert ivy]

No, you don't get anything now.

[wraith leaf]

I think I may be wrong

[desert ivy]

The only thing you get before launch are the alpha/beta tests and the name reservation from the Voyager Plus pack

[civic heart]

im just planning to buy a key for beta one or two, thought i dont wanna commit too early but i dont want the key to go off the package

and yeah it was march or april

[desert ivy]

Beta is still years away. You have a long time before they take those off the store.

[civic heart]

gotcha

[orchid kiln]

Id be happy to support the max option if there were something in it for me now :/

[lean marlin]

new cosmetics come out, I believe the 13th of next month. check back then.

[orchid kiln]

lol cosmetics still only come when the game is out..

[lean marlin]

life only happens when you dare experience it. Toodles.

[orchid kiln]

..?

[novel flicker]

Hmm if am braver of world backer(Kickstarter upgrade Dec 2018) should life sub appear in the inventory on the account profile website?

[dark jungle]

it doesnt appear separately, it's part of the braver of worlds package tier

[novel flicker]

Hmm good to know had the paranoid notion just now that if you upgraded you missed out on it bear in mind i picked a lower package and upgraded a month or two later back in 2018 december

[dark jungle]

all the pack benefits are granted when you upgrade, so you're all good

[novel flicker]

haha well good to know thanks 🧔

[fossil jackal]

Yo whats the latest expected release dat?

[thorn quartz]

alpha with no nda is april 6 till may 6

So anybody guess

[desert ivy]

There is none

[eager siren]

hey friends i was just thinking about a question cause im sitting here playing SWTOR right now and was thinking about there legacy system and how its beneficial to have alts for this game, was wondering how alt characters were gonna be handled in AOC, is it gonna be a grind to get my characters up to par like world of warcraft is?

[desert ivy]

I mean, you could always trade gear/money to your alts to help them level/get up to par quicker. There's not any system that quickens the alt-levelling/gearing process without doing that though.

[eager siren]

how about as for end game content? is it going to take a long grinding session to get the right gear for end game content?

[desert ivy]

AFAIK we don't know how long/hard it will be to get end-game content gear

The way this game is though I expect it to be pretty difficult.

Almost no gear is going to be bind on equip/bind on pickup, so if you're rich enough on your main you can just buy late-game gear and give it to your alt

[eager siren]

oh awesome

[crystal beacon]

Is there a way to see if the name I want to reserve is taken?

[woven vale]

No names have been reserved as of now

[crystal beacon]

Ah so if I'm getting it now Im not reserving the name yet, is that correct?

[woven vale]

Yes

[crystal beacon]

Thank you!

[pastel coral]

as long as no else takes Bob ... im good

[crystal beacon]

I’m gonna take bob now @pastel coral

@simple ether I was told name reservation is in beta 2

[steady ocean]

Anything and everything atm is subject to change, so wait for the devs to confirm any specific dates.

[alpine yew]

Any forecast of being able to buy AoC with converted values ​​for other countries? $ 75 is almost half a salary here in the third world

[pastel coral]

third would has high speed internet?

world

[arctic sky]

They talked about regional pricing but being stuck with that region

Where as if you paid the full 15 US you aren't locked in any region

[spark lark]

I’m not sure about Pre Order packs, but the actual game (which has no box cost, only a sub fee) has had talks of regional pricing

Like Aryielle just mentioned

[split pilot]

for the name reservations i heard you can't use them until alpha 1 does that mean the actual alpha 1 or do the pre tests count?

[ruby swift]

Alpha 1 was the timeline given. They will be implemented with plenty of notice whenever Intrepid is ready. Also, the name reservations are for the live launch server you will be on at release, there has been no information about reservation applying to testing.

!wiki name reservation

[tender hearth]

wiki results

1: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Name_reservations>

...will have name reservation tokens, that entitle its holder to reserve a name on a specific server when the reservation time comes. Name reservations will be...

2: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Account_management>

...will have name reservation tokens, that entitle its holder to reserve a name on a specific server when the reservation time comes. Name reservations will be...

3: <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Alpha-1>

...to Alpha-1. Merchant systems. Player trading. Social organizations. Name reservations. Two to three servers. 1,500 concurrent server population. Daggers...

[crystal beacon]

Do we know if there will be quick travel to your freehold or will you have to walk

[desert ivy]

Walk

[dense tree]

How long will the pre-order packs that are available right now last? Me and my friends are debating if we should/need to buy them now to be able to play on Alpha 2, or we can wait a bit more to get money...

[bleak sinew]

They will provide notice if the current packs are going to be removed from the store. There is no information on when that will happen. I would not expect the packs to be removed any time soon.

[pastel coral]

Once testing is complete, is there a complete wipe for launch or you keep your progression?

[desert ivy]

Complete wipe

[pastel coral]

Thanks

[whole ridge]

i got a question, if i buy this game can i play at this moment? im searching a great mmo for 2021

and this looks awesome!!!

[desert ivy]

No. No pack that's available lets you play now.

The game is still in pre-alpha 1 testing which means there is no constant testing, just spot testing every now and then

[whole ridge]

okay thanks

[visual abyss]

when the game game comes out will it have some sort of free trial?

[full badger]

There are currently no plans to offer a free trial when the game launches

[quasi pine]

Is there a way to see if the name I don't want is taken?

[lean marlin]

There is no way to see if a name you want is taken or not, at least not right now. I would surmise you probably won't know until you try to use it.

[wispy timber]

is the beta data going to get wiped after it's finished?

[lean marlin]

yes.

release is a clean slate.

[last osprey]

for names to be reserved, a2 must firstly have to start and you have to buy the package with the name reservation included. there is also one that has no name reservations that costs 250$.

[crystal beacon]

when will this master piece be released? cant wait anymore

[gaunt dock]

Gonna have to wait atleast 2 years

I’d say early 2023 but who knows

[crystal beacon]

fuck

[gaunt dock]

Yeh I know

[timber estuary]

Is this game B2P or what exactly?

[steady ocean]

There will be a $15 monthly subscription once the game launches. There is no box cost, and the monthly sub fee gives you access to all future DLC and expansions. @timber estuary

[signal inlet]

The sub cost is technically going to be $15.99

oh good

[timber estuary]

Okay thanks for the answer

[crystal beacon]

In all the caster footage we never really see a cast bar has this been addressed? Or will there just be no cast bar?

[sour junco]

Wait until combat rework, more gameplay footage/NDA lifted and we know 👍

[slender shuttle]

i read somewhere that Intrepid was considering selling more alpha one keys.. is this correct?
If so, when, where and how much.. cuz, altho i have alpha 2 keys, i would like to get involved a little earlier..

[desert ivy]

If they did resell the A1 keys it would be on their website like normal. It would most likely be $500 for the A1 pack since that was the original price. It's not guaranteed that they'll start reselling them, just mentioned as a possibility

Steven will talk more about it in the CD letter this month

[formal dune]

When is the release

[dark jungle]

No release date given as yet

[woven vale]

Community guesstimation is 2-3 years

[regal scaffold]

Do we know when they will be discussing their plans for crafting systems/mechanics? Im not sure what the status is on this topic, or if it has already been covered or slated to be discussed in future.

[woven vale]

I don't think we know

I'd guess A2 though, no specific point of A2

[desert ivy]

!wiki crafting

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Crafting

[regal scaffold]

AH okay, thank you. I look through that for now.

[wraith leaf]

Will attacking caravans give you corruption?

[dark jungle]

no

caravans do not have the corruption mechanic

[steady ocean]

Like Lex mentioned, caravans are one of the "PVP events" that do not cause corruption as guarding & attacking a caravan both requires players to flag for PVP.

Other PVP events that are similar in this regard are the node sieges, castle sieges and arenas to name a few.

[crystal beacon]

It’ll probably be more like 5 tho 🥲

[woven vale]

At that point i'd label it SC 2.

[granite gyro]

starcraft 2?

[hasty osprey]

Will cosmetics be character bound? Like if in the future a new class comes out that I want to main will I be able to send my cosmetics to it or will I be SOL on my limited time cosmetics?

[gaunt dock]

I think he means Star citizen 2 ahahah

[granite gyro]

ahh

makes more sense

[drowsy holly]

hi there, if I upgrade a pack that contained skins from another month, do I acquire the 'new' skins of the same tier as the pack I had?

[worn wagon]

You will acquire the current skins of the new pack, but will not receive any new skins for the packs you already own

[worn wagon]

As far as I remember, skins will be account bound but can only be applied to one character at a time. So if you want to use said skin on a new char, you'd have to remove that skin from your old one first

[ruby swift]

@hasty osprey Cosmetics are account bound. You can swap them between characters.

@drowsy holly to give a further example. If you have the accessory from the June package, and then upgrade in January. You would get everything from the January pack that was part of your upgrade, but would need to buy the Jan accessory a la carte for $5 if you wanted it.

[drowsy holly]

okay thx

[visual steppe]

Will the guild halls have a form of mission boards or quest hubs at all? Will there be general upkeep like taxes or resource requirements?

[dark jungle]

we dont have info on any of these things things currently. good questions for the next livestream

[wispy timber]

after the alpha and beta concluded, will there be a data wipe?

[spiral pine]

yes

[wispy timber]

ight ty for the answer

[austere rock]

I saw recently that @idle siren said they may open up PA1 packages again. Should I go ahead and get my PA2 package and just hope I can upgrade if/when those come or should I hold off and just wait for the new package?

Love this month's glamour - finally some tanking stuff 🙂

tanky-looking, at least lol

[fiery crown]

So this has been releasing for about 2 years now when is it actually releasing

I appreciate all the work that has gone into this but god damn it’s 2021

[dark jungle]

we have no release date yet, we are still in the early stages of alpha 1 preview testing

[woven vale]

Guessstimation is 2-3 years

[woven vale]

Also MMORPGs take 5-6 years to develop

So if this were to release in 2...it'd be broken in every way

[wanton cosmos]

Have there been any leaks for this months cosmetics?

[woven vale]

I don't believe so.

[full badger]

All the Intrepid staff are on holiday until January 4th, so there won't be any leaks until then at the earliest

[open sierra]

at the moment game has playable and stable alpha with no nda can i back it then or need to do it now ?

[lean marlin]

You can wait, you can't get into any of the A1 stuff. So you'd have to get in during A2.

If you do decide to do it though, make sure it with a cosmetic set you like. @open sierra

[open sierra]

no i asking at the later stage

alpha 2 may be

when there is no nda

my point is to see what game will be like and then take it 🙂

[lean marlin]

It might get taken out of packages, not sure. Though if it does we'll get info a while before it happens. So if you want to wait for it, go for it.

[open sierra]

yeah wanna see real gameplay

and then back it 😛

[trail oyster]

New pack when! 😢

[full badger]

Jan 13th 11am PST #news message

[crystal beacon]

Will there be more than one hotbar??

[desert ivy]

Yes

[crystal beacon]

Thank fuck

[arctic sky]

They have mentioned the number 30 for hotkeys some

[visual steppe]

How will gear drops work in ashes? Will it be a big chest that the group leader hands stuff out from or will it be like wow and such where you have a random chance to RNG a drop?

[quasi shard]

!wiki looting

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Looting

[wraith leaf]

What type of architecture does the Dünir Dwarves Nodes take inspiration from? I am making a YouTube video about the races and their architecture and I need some help

[steady ocean]

Nordic cultures*

!wiki races

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Races

[wraith leaf]

I was thinking that too I just needed a second opinion

I am already looking through the wiki

[steady ocean]

Don't need an opinion when you have direct quotes 😄

[wraith leaf]

I totally missed that lol

I think I might need to get my eyes checked

[steady ocean]

There's a lot to sift through for sure.

[wraith leaf]

thank you so much

[crystal beacon]

Will this be on steam?

[placid vessel]

No, Intrepid has no plans to release AoC on Steam.

[crystal beacon]

Do we know if the monster coin system has been cut or not?

[junior ore]

Iirc isn’t that a ks goal?

[dark jungle]

monster coins are still in the game

!wiki monster coins

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Monster_coins

[steady ocean]

@dark jungle Do you know if tames are considered a usable resource (as in rideable straight away), or is it your understanding that they first need to be bred and the offspring raised to maturity before it is possible to utilize the creature as a mount?

(or if anyone else knows @idle siren 😉 )

[dark jungle]

no mention if tamed beasts are usable immediately, i would guess they would have to be processed somehow but probably a good question for the stream

[steady ocean]

Right, trying to do a write up on why I think being able to resurrect tames is a mistake for community discussion, but that part is pretty important so I'll postpone until I can ask the question. Thanks

[merry frigate]

is there a new roadmap out yet? finally going to be able to get my Voyagers pack come feburary

[visual abyss]

will the servers be region locked? as im from eastern europe im afraid that ill be forced to play in cis region, because in some mmos that is the case

[digital yacht]

nope

[west snow]

if you get stuff like cosmetics from alpha and beta, can you still get them on the official game release ?

[steady ocean]

You will receive them when the game launches, most likely not during the testing phases unless the devs want to test out the cosmetic systems.

[steady ocean]

If you pay the full $15 (USD) sub cost then you will not be region locked. If you choose to pay the harmonized/regional cost (if it is offered in your area) then you would be region locked to that regionally priced sub server.

[visual abyss]

oh so i can choose then, thanks, so ill just stick with the EU cost then😅

[last fossil]

If I were to upgrade my package to Braver of Worlds would I get a Closed Alpha key? or is that only if you pledged it during the kickstarter? I'm a bit confused on the wording here

[full badger]

@last fossil If you upgrade to Braver of Worlds now you'll be eligible for the next Alpha 1 preview in February and should receive an invite for it closer to the time of the test

[spark lark]

So I know Jeff said the revamped combat would be ready around March, so are we assuming it will be playable in the March Alpha 1 test?

I know that's a dumb question but I mainly just want to know if the people streaming the game to large audiences will be showing off a system that more accurately represents the combat they are working towards for launch

Because it's painful to see twitch chat harp on current combat ;-;

[full badger]

@spark lark I don't have an answer to that, although I wouldn't be worried about what is shown when the NDA is lifted.

[hollow pine]

hmm if I get the voyager plus will that be all I need? It says 9 months of game time. Is that initial game time when it officially launches? And until then I am just playing in alpha/beta etc?

[sour junco]

Timeframe between 1 week and 1 month test being very small, id guess we get to see the same combat system in both nonNDA alpha1s.

Yes Bonegrin. Means you will most likely get 1.5years+ with testing and playtime after launch

[hollow pine]

ahh I read a few of the answers above.

Ty

I am looking for something new. Been playing wow since it has arrived.. Not sure what else to play, I am about ready to move on lol

[full badger]

The game time that comes with the pre-order packs only counts down when the game fully launches. You don't need to pay a subscription for the testing phases @hollow pine

[hollow pine]

Gotcha TY

[desert swallow]

Can family members be part of different guilds and have different node citizenships?

[timber estuary]

-Actually another question, still related to the prev one: is the monthly fee system like BDO one or like WoW one?

[full badger]

You mean the monthly subscription? It will be mandatory (like in WoW) but to compensate there will be no box cost

[steel vessel]

Hi, wondering if it will be permitted to stream Alpha 2? (in any case, can't wait for it!!!!!!!)

[full badger]

The NDA will be lifted by then, so yes you can stream Alpha 2

[steel vessel]

Thanks, nice, looking forward 🙂

[crystal beacon]

Which is the main foods of the Ren´kais? fish? they are part asian

[junior sandal]

Heey all im new to discord. Ive been following the game for some time and i have some questions.

How many players will the server hold?
Do you keep your progression?
And i read something about necromancer lvling his. Minions does thia mean you can raise some type of beast and keep that 1 and keep lvling it and respawning it?

Sorry if i ask to much.

[full badger]

@junior sandal Hi and welcome.

Servers will hold 8,000-10,000 concurrent players (up to 50,000 accounts)
There will be regular wipes during the testing phases, but once the game launches, there are no planned server wipes
We don't have a lot of information regarding the summoner spells yet. What we do know is on the wiki

!wiki summoner

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Summoner

[junior sandal]

@full badger thank you for the quick awnsers..!!

Is there a way to obtain a alpha key without buying a pack?
And how is the server population during these test phases?

[crystal beacon]

Hi what release date ?

[full badger]

@junior sandal Alpha keys are sometimes given for specific events (such as during the recent ExtraLife 24 hour livestream) but these are rare.

[full badger]

We don't currently have a release date for the game yet, see the link below for the current testing schedule

[junior sandal]

@full badger aah oke.. Would . Love to try it out and help active with feedback...

Ive played allot of necromancer in other games and crafter... But this game gives me more hope with the option tonlvl ur minions.. My ultimated necromancer ia to give the option to choose and keep specific minions that you ressurect and lvl that miniom up.

[full badger]

@junior sandal Lots of people have great hopes for the summoner classes too. I'd recommend discussing it more in the #aoc-discussion channel 🙂

[junior sandal]

@full badger i will thank you.

If i buy the 75 dollar pakkage will i be able. To play the game than? In the state it ia now?

[full badger]

The $75 pack gives you access to Beta testing, which we don't currently have a date for

we're about to enter Alpha 1. After that will be Alpha 2 and then the Beta testing phases

[junior sandal]

@full badger aah damm to bad the other pakkage is littlebit to much for me now.. Nurses over here dont get payed......... %€%&0 hahah

[full badger]

There's plenty of time to save up if that's what you want to do

[junior sandal]

@full badger yea i will.

@full badger thanks for you quick awnsers.. Are you 1 of the devs or something like that

[full badger]

I'm just a community volunteer moderator. Anyone with a red name is a community mod. Green names are official content creators, and Yellow/Orange names are Intrepid Staff

[junior sandal]

Aah oke thanks good to know that

Well you seem to know enough haha to thank you

[full badger]

🙂

[austere rock]

They've said they won't allow third party mods, right? Are they going to allow keybinding for an MMO mouse? I just got one and I'm really enjoying it.

[steady ocean]

Keybinds are generally good to go, although per Steven the game/UI will be highly customizable so it's possible you could do it via the game menu options later down the line.

If you set up your mouse software to do a 30 action macro in one click that would probably not be good, but I'm sure the devs will clarify this point the closer we are to launch.

[wispy timber]

will the subscription cost vary based on the currency? asking bc i live in europe and some studios dont adjust the prices for every currency and basically charge more for other countries

[desert ivy]

Depends on what server you play on. If you play on the EU server then you'll have to pay full price. If they add a South American server for example and you decide to play on that one, then you'd be able to pay a reduced price.

[wispy timber]

so it would cost 15€ in the EU and 15 USD in the US?

[desert ivy]

I'm not sure how it will work when it comes to translating the dollar price to euro. Whether they just go $15 > 12.36 euro or just say fuck it and make it 15 euros

[steady ocean]

It would cost the equivalent of $15 USD in euros, whatever that is

[wispy timber]

ight

[austere rock]

Thanks @steady ocean - I just bind one ability to each button and then also use shift and ctrl to add more keys (for a total of 36 abilities on my mouse). Nothing fancy like multiple executions per click. 🙂

I just hope they have an easy way to bind them in game lol

[wispy timber]

^ i hope they take some inspiration from the SW:TOR interface editor

[pastel quest]

sorry for the silly question.. is there an estimated date for the release?

[full badger]

@pastel quest We don't currently have a release date for the game yet, see the link below for the current testing schedule

[pastel quest]

ty 🙂

so even if a buy the $375 i dont get to try the alpha 1?

[desert ivy]

$375 is only for Alpha 2. Alpha 1 packs might get sold again, but not atm

[woven vale]

Community guesstimation is 2-3 years

[pastel quest]

😮

kk thanks a lot guys ❤️

[desert swallow]

Can family members be part of different guilds and have different node citizenships?

[austere rock]

@pastel quest - Steven did recently say that servers performed better than expected and so they might re-introduce some Alpha 1 options.

https://www.mmorpg.com/news/following-ashes-of-creations-pretest-steven-sharif-talks-potentially-opening-up-alpha-1-sales-again-2000120517

[pastel quest]

@austere rock thanks man much appreciated

[austere rock]

No problem 🙂

I want one too lol

[sly monolith]

wut? damn those prices then is my guess.. prolly 500 dollars for alpha 1

[woven vale]

The pack with A1 was 500

[sly monolith]

principeles are killing me then.. 500 for a video game :S

[lean marlin]

It's not 500 for the game. It's 500 (or was) for the pack, which included a lot of benefits including cosmetics and testing phases. The game itself is only priced via it's sub cost.

[sly monolith]

right

[wispy timber]

^ no one is forced to buy the packages because in the end you only have to pay 15$ per month once it's released

[autumn sapphire]

do we have a date for the next alpha yet?

ok and one more thing, the name reservation when you get the 375 bundle, how does that work

[lean marlin]

We don't have all the details on that. just pay attention and you'll find out like the rest of us.

[plain shadow]

Can Braver of worlds play or utilize what we've bought yet?

[digital yacht]

Yes

[digital yacht]

You will have to wait till February to start tho if you missed the December one

[plain shadow]

Thanks boyos

cant reserve names or anything yet?

[digital yacht]

nope

[crystal beacon]

hey is it just me or has there not been a monthly cosmetic thingy this month? (so far)

[full badger]

The cosmetics are due to change on Jan 13th at 11am pst #news message

[crystal beacon]

thanks wolfy ❤️

[runic quiver]

Hey, not sure if this has been asked & answered already, but I couldn't find anything.

If I've already purchased an early access bundle for Alpha 2 from the Intrepid shop, is it possible to upgrade it to a Kickstarter bundle? (Braver of Worlds for example)

[full badger]

@runic quiver No sorry. The kickstarter packs were exclusive to the kickstarter only. You cannot buy them anymore

[thorny warren]

If the Alpha 1 will trully be opened to more buyers, will i be able to upgrade my Voyager Plus pack or is it a separate purchase?

[full badger]

We don't know how it would work, but an upgrade from an existing pack seems the most likely @thorny warren

[thorny warren]

Sounds promising, i've read that the Server are working better than expected so that got my hopes up

[runic quiver]

@full badger thanks

[wispy timber]

is it true that i can marry my best homie for benefits in this game?

[full badger]

There is a marriage system planned yes

!wiki marriage

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Marriage

[wispy timber]

Poggers

ty

[torn heart]

Hello, when do they usually open up a thread where you can submit questions for the upcoming stream? is it 1 week before?

Thanks

[austere nexus]

When do we reserve name?

[spiral rose]

i heard a rumor that scribes will be able to basically chart areas they have explored and then provide those maps to a scientific node's library to update the other player's maps in the area, is this type of feature real?

ok cool, thank you

[crystal beacon]

I gathered that the node's zoi does not expand equally in all directions, but is there any rule or it's completely random?

[dark jungle]

its computed by the world manager algorithm according to its internal rules, which likely wont be given out to players to avoid gaming the system

[crystal beacon]

@simple ether I'm wondering if there's a positioning to make that impossible

[valid osprey]

Hey guys , been a while since ive looked up news on ashes of creation 🙂 , with alpha one coming soon-ish as was wondering where can i see if im available to get into this alpha, ill i can see on my page is the $$$ i pledge back on kickstarter

[crystal beacon]

Also, you mentioned "pull". Does that mean that Village A is currently in zoi of Town B, but might not be anymore when Town B becomes City B?

[dark jungle]

your inventory will show which package level you backed. if you backed braver of worlds or greater you have alpha 1 access. if you backed kickstarter at a lower tier, you can still upgrade to braver to gain a1 access

essentially if you backed at $450 or higher you likely have alpha 1 access

[blissful walrus]

is it possible to play by buying a package at the moment?

[paper lynx]

@blissful walrus best package you can buy only gives you access to alpha 2

[blissful walrus]

ok thanks

[digital yacht]

Technically some payed 400$

[desert ivy]

Technically some paid $0

[onyx knoll]

what, who?!

[woven vale]

coughs in mod

[twilit panther]

Or streamers

[woven vale]

The only streamer I know who has A1 for free

Is asmon (prob others)

[teal spade]

low cost publicity, anybody would do the same

[lost solstice]

A1 keys were also given out randomly during the 24 hour charity stream not too long ago. The winners got those for free

[thorny warren]

And the Halloween thingie

[woven vale]

Yeah, though they don't have access until March (i think), maybe april

[lost solstice]

pretty sure they don't get in until the March test, the first no NDA test, I don't know for sure though

[steady ocean]

This is correct. They get in during the March (non-NDA) and the April (non-NDA) tests

[crystal beacon]

@simple ether a few questions: 🤓

1. Is it possible for a castle to control 2 metropolises?
2. In pvp, can spawn camping be a thing?
3. If A and B are fighting in a pvp event that I am not a part of. I attack B, but A deliver the killing blow. Do I get corruption?
4. If I am red, can I put all of my golds, materials, equipments, etc. in the bank (or my friend) and suicide to quickly get out of red?
5. Are there any plan for active (instead of passive) dodging?

[plucky pawn]

Unknown indeed likely based on bank location, but it's been previously stated that you are KOS to guards if you're red...so if the bank is in town, you might have a bad time 😉

[twilit vapor]

so when is alpha 1 coming out

[crystal beacon]

Ah, thank you. Tbh, I'm not a fan of 1, 2 and 5. 3 seems to be abuse-able. About 4, I can give it to my trusty friend instead. 😋

[plucky pawn]

And while death is indeed a factor in losing corruption, whether or not you were able to cheese it by suiciding would likely be something we tested heavily I'd imagine.

[crystal beacon]

alright, the fact that I bring attention to it is enough.

[twilit vapor]

So i see that alpha 1 last a whole month is alpha 2 gonna last a month also

[crystal beacon]

also, I would assume that when we're dead, we would be resurrected as green. or it would be very sad for combatants. 🤓

[desert ivy]

@twilit vapor Alpha 1 isn't just a month, that's just the last currently scheduled test. There could potentially be another 100 A1 tests after the April one, they just haven't planned them yet.

[crystal beacon]

alpha 1 is gonna be persistent I believe

[plucky pawn]

Alpha Two is planned to be our persistent test server 😄

[crystal beacon]

*alpha 2

[plucky pawn]

And yup, Talents is spot on in what we've shared so far regarding scheduling we'll keep ya posted on more test plans as we have more details to share!

[oak depot]

I almost want to start a rumor that there will be an Alpha-3 between Beta 1 and 2 that will be so persistent it stick to launch... but LT would kill me I think

[cedar thicket]

I have a question regarding Py'rai (wood elves (?)) customisation. Will they have access to horns, antlers or something like that? There are quite a few worlds in which wood elves have those. I tried to search for information, but I couldn't find anything informative regarding this subject. Would be grateful any information.

[lean marlin]

We don't know. Anything related to that either hasn't come out yet, or is under NDA

[crystal beacon]

@simple ether because non-combatants see BHs as green. can they heal the fighting BHs without getting their hand dirty?

[oak depot]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Py'rai all we know

[open zenith]

In regards to species I'd like to see a south-american influenced race. If not, I guess I always can play a llama or condor tulnar :/

[lean marlin]

Vek?

[digital yacht]

!wiki Vek

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Vek

[oak depot]

There won’t be Condor Tulnar

No Avian influences as birds didn’t go underground

[open zenith]

:(

Well, guess mesoamerican is better than nothing

Still wanted an Inca-like race with like big stone structures in the mountains and agricultural buffs.

And golden stuff

[eternal mason]

are there any spoilers or previews for the next cosmetics in the shop? im always excited to see the new ones but they seem to be late this time? wich is fine the artists prolly got there time off as well 🙂

[open zenith]

With Tumi knifes for priests and maybe rogues

[woven vale]

Nope

Not yet atleast

[spark lark]

Not yet, they've been on break and also the December cosmetics have been extended until the 13th

[full badger]

Nothing yet. The Intrepid staff only got back to work today, so it might be a few days before anything comes out

[plucky pawn]

@eternal mason Yup as someone noted the December stuff will be sticking around until January 13 to give us a little extra time for the holidays, so keep an eye out closer to that time for a preview of the next goodies 😉

[lean marlin]

@open zenith Mesoamerica is a historical region and cultural area in North America. It extends from approximately central Mexico through Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, and northern Costa Rica. >.> literally Mayans, Aztecs, and Incas. You'll be fine.

[eternal mason]

oh wow thanks a lot guys. i didnt see that it got extended untill the 13th 🙂 apriciate it guys !

[plucky pawn]

It was announced in the original article when they were first released that they would be around through the 13th 😄 link: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2020-12-01-under-the-frost

[open zenith]

Uh... I don't think Incas count as a Mesoamerican culture, they were in a souther region of America, what is now Perú, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina and Chile

[plucky pawn]

We always let you know in that article when they'll come and go

[open zenith]

But I mean, I understand why they'd focus on mesoamerica since they're kind of the latinoamerican culture's face.

[lean marlin]

They are definitely part of Mesoamerica.

[eternal mason]

ok got it! thx toast 🙂 hope to see you again in a stream 🙂

[open zenith]

No, they're not xD

[full badger]

@open zenith @lean marlin please take this conversation down to #aoc-discussion please

[open zenith]

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it a discussion, I just had a legitimate question. I apologize for the trouble.

[crystal beacon]

!wiki renkai

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Renkai

[crystal beacon]

Do we know what you'll lose when u die as a corrupted player?

[desert ivy]

They lose 4x the amount that a non-combatant loses. So they go into 300% more exp debt, lose 300% more gatherables, 300% worse drop rate from monsters, etc. They also have a chance to drop their gear if they're corrupted. You also get attacked on sight by node guards

[crystal beacon]

How long do these last?

And can others confirm that?

[desert ivy]

You work off corruption through either dying, or grinding mobs

[plucky pawn]

@crystal beacon You can see more on where we've discussed the specifics on corruption (like what Talents mentioned) in the community-run wiki here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Corruption

It has a section on player death as well for more details 😄

[crystal beacon]

Thank you 🙂

[hollow pine]

oh wait so 375 won't get you in until alpha 2 which is according to the play test schedule at least till after may 6?!? damn! I almost paid that thinking I would get to be testing stuff right now hehe.. Reading comprehension is good!

[grim breach]

There's no date set for Alpha 2 yet. Any dates people are telling you are merely speculations.

[craggy totem]

After may 6

But not necessarily may 6th

[winter hazel]

does anyone know if there will be controller support for AOC? It would be cool to have as games like FF14, ESO and Black desert have it

i heard steven said he would try and get it to work, but not sure if its confirmed

[craggy totem]

Then it will probably have it later on

[steady ocean]

Not at launch

[minor marsh]

Does AoC have a large enough presence to request that their payment processor, Xsolla, simply sign their DNS records with DNSSEC? A simple piece of security to help prevent some mitm for a massive payment processing website probably isn't a bad idea.

[dark jungle]

i mean xolla uses a russian registrar, so it's probably not high on their priority list

[desert ivy]

AFAIK they're in the process of changing away from Xsolla

[minor marsh]

Such easy and simple practice to prevent potential bs. Especially as a payment processor.

[open zenith]

Anyone knows if there's gonna be a family system besides marriage?

[craggy totem]

Yes, its called the family system

[open zenith]

Lol :b

But how do you add sibblings, or parents or children ?

[digital yacht]

we will find all that out when its implemented and shown off

[final kindle]

Would wielding two shields be possible (and viable) for a tank?

[woven vale]

Not possible

And wont happen (I believe Steven stated)

[native gorge]

Hiya, will there be an artisan finder option when interacting with the town bulletin boards? (E.g the node locations of a master blacksmith?)

[dark jungle]

artisans can advertise their services either in player stalls or personal shops, some are automatically listed on the node bulletin boards

!wiki player businesses

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_businesses

[native gorge]

But I need to travel to that node to check if it has my needed artisan?

[dark jungle]

for player stalls the items are listed over the whole region

for auctions, items are listed in any linked auction houses (depending on the level of the metro perk)

only personal shops have limited advertising

[native gorge]

But this doesn't show me who created the sword, only who's selling it. This can cause instances where he bought from the original creator and is re selling no?

[woven vale]

Items that are crafted state

Crafted by : [Name]

[native gorge]

But how do I find that man?

[dark jungle]

yes, you will be able to view the item in the listing remotely before you decide to travel to wherever to purchase it

[woven vale]

In the item description....like most mmorpgs

[dark jungle]

for player stalls it will tell you on your map

for auction houses you pick the items up from the node warehouse where the auction was listed

its all on that page really

im just repeating what is there

[native gorge]

Wait really?

[whole hare]

Has anything been said about when they plan on removing Alpha-2 access from the pre-orders?

[dark jungle]

no

[woven vale]

They stated they will give an advance warning as to when

[whole hare]

^Good enough for me, thank you.

[native gorge]

So, I can locate an artisan through the description of the item I bought...?

[dark jungle]

you will see their name

[native gorge]

But that's all?

[dark jungle]

then you could pm them

what else do you want? gps coordinates? 😄

[native gorge]

A node region location...

[woven vale]

Like most mmorpgs...the description will state : Made by: [Name]

You won't be given any more info on the crafter from the item

[dark jungle]

^

sending a PM is not difficult

[woven vale]

Or mail if they aren't online (assuming they have mail like almost all mmorpgs)

[dark jungle]

yes

[smoky raft]

also typing in trade chat that you want that crafter to craft something for you

[dark jungle]

standard mmo stuff really

[native gorge]

It is when he's offline and on the other side of Verra, I could start travelling towards him except I'd be waiting for his reply

[woven vale]

That's the nature of an mmorpg.

[smoky raft]

you can whisper them as well

[native gorge]

Aight, now for the finale. Is it possible to make an app that can locate them to what node they're in?

[woven vale]

No

That will be against TOS

And I doubt you could gain that data

As a dps meter has clientside information

Other player location in a differing instance/shard probably wont be clientside

[native gorge]

At least I get that part

[dark jungle]

if you had a hack to locate a player it would be a griefers paradise

[smoky raft]

^

[woven vale]

wetdream*

[dark jungle]

man that would make my bounty hunting ez clap

all i would need is a tp command to go directly to them

[woven vale]

Don't bhs already get some form of locator

Like a rough area, etc

[native gorge]

Technically it would locate the node they're in, it could even be a feature that can be enabled when store vending. Idk why you'd be grieving a store vendor in a town center it aight

[woven vale]

uses tracker

X player is here...ill kill them over and over!

Next session

[dark jungle]

lets go boys

[woven vale]

OOH X player is back online and here

Time to go killin

[novel galleon]

seems like @native gorge is fishing 😄

[dark jungle]

fishing... even easier to gank

[native gorge]

But...it's node location won't they spawn at any of the default spawn locations in the node anyway

[woven vale]

Err...what? Clarify.

[native gorge]

So it's been said that there will be default spawn locations within a node that are universal for players (other than corrupted who respawn randomly)

[dark jungle]

shame you cant name nodes, i'd want one called your moms house, so if there was a locator it would say that's where i am

[native gorge]

If there's multiple spawn locations within a node, how would a griefer locate you if he's using a locator that only shows what node the players in?

I don't get...

He may use the locator to find what node you're in, but then what? After he kills you he can't know what spawn you ended up at

[woven vale]

Nodes aren't that big (from what we've seen)...aside from lvl 5/6, maybe 4

Also a rough location is still a location...which can help alot in the huge map

[native gorge]

To grief one person?

You're going to hunt him from node to node trying to find him? Seems like a waste of time to me

[rigid rose]

Kind of more of a discussion at this point... please move down to discussion channel to carry on and leave this channel for Questions please... thanks! 🙂

[native gorge]

It's gonna be out of context though...

[native gorge]

Also, we've been told that node guards attack corrupt players on sight

[twilit panther]

Will the world have extreme fantastical variety when it comes to the environments?

If the world is as big as they say I hope they really push a unique feel for every region

[full badger]

@twilit panther That's not really a question we can answer right now. We'll have to wait and see I guess

[steady ocean]

@twilit panther Gives an idea of some of the various biomes.

[bold bear]

@twilit panther some areas will have seasonal variation. I look forward to the smell of burning nodes in the spring time!

[craggy totem]

!wiki seasons

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Seasons

[glossy portal]

Ello! o/ When was the CDL scheduled? I vaguely remember the 7th being mentioned but i couldn't find the snippet in the VOD

nvm, found Jahlon's answer! 😄

[inland sentinel]

ya i want to get the game but i am going to wait for better starter things that you get instead of the ice looking things. I prefered the fire ones from before but they changed it, do you guys know how often they change the game packs.
Please either dm me or @ me the message otherwise there is a chance i wont see the answer please.

[full badger]

The monthly cosmetics for the pre-order packs will change on the 13th Jan at 11am PST, as stated in this announcement message: #news message

[smoky raft]

we need leeks

[inland sentinel]

@full badger thanks

[mighty dagger]

re: the family systems questions earlier, Im surprised no one mentioned the orphanage system 👅

[worn venture]

Oof

[quasi atlas]

I haven't been keeping up to date but was curious where the game is as far as being released to the general public.

[craggy totem]

Still some years away @quasi atlas

[worn venture]

It's gonna take a few years for the full game launch, and I don't believe that they will release every feature from the get go

[quasi atlas]

@craggy totem alright, thank you.

I can't wait man. I watched some of the youtube updates and the game looks amazing. I'll just have to keep playing WoW and keep waiting patiently.

[worn venture]

I'm also very excited to dive into the game, I have my hopes up for this game!!

[quick palm]

Good day. Sorry of this question has been asked before but what region do you have to be if you want to be an alpha or beta tester? I'm from South Africa and play on EU servers most of the time

[full badger]

There's no IP or region locking for the testing phases, so you should have no problem playing from anywhere

[quick palm]

Thank you

[native gorge]

I have a question before i head to bed, are node types already chosen for you or does it depend on the actions taken in that node? (e.g. majority of xp from trading/econ quests so node will be an economic node)

[lean marlin]

node types are static from the start.

[native gorge]

cheers

could you expand that please?

oh epic

finding a node type during alpha or beta could help you find a node for you guild before launch? or will it be randomised for every server wipe?

[desert ivy]

I don't think we know for certain. They could definitely change node types from Beta 2 to Release, but I don't think they've confirmed it yet

[native gorge]

@simple ether could you faq that next time you talk to Steven?

[final kindle]

Do we know if we'll have something like proximity voice chat?

[dark jungle]

steven has said there will be no proximity vc, thank the sandal

[native gorge]

ok, thanks again

[feral hamlet]

Anyone know if data will be transferred from alpha/beta to launch (characters, node progress, e.t.c.)?

[lone wadi]

wipes after alpha 2 and after beta 2 i believe

[feral hamlet]

cool, thanks

[timber reef]

Any estimated release date ?

[desert ivy]

Nope.

[rain spade]

Community estimate is 2-3 years
Nothing from on high

[timber reef]

O.O

[woven vale]

Welcome to the creation of an mmorpg

[timber reef]

oh believe me, i've been waiting for new world

I just thought this was further along its way

[humble trout]

do we know if u are movement locked when doing the standard melee attack with weapons or can u move during?

[woven vale]

A combat rework is coming march...but as of now I think you can move

[digital turtle]

What is the main focus of the combat rework?

[woven vale]

To make combat fun/better (I believe was stated)

[dark jungle]

yes, to take the community feedback from the previous alpha testing phases and make things better

[digital turtle]

thank you

[prime acorn]

is there a way to be able to see where we are linked as a founder for the game (when we bought earlier packs to get included in the game)

[plucky pawn]

@prime acorn You should be able to see the pack you purchased originally from the Inventory on your Profile, when you log in here: https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/

[prime acorn]

wow really quick response thank you so much...I think it's awesome how much work you guys already put into this game and I can't wait to see it when it launches...have been spamming to everyone about it haha

also noticed the notoriety we are getting on streams lately quite a bit more are saying it's the most highly anticipated MMO in decades 🙂

sorry to bother again but is there any chance we can get any of the previous packs re-released to purchase? I wanted to dump a lot of money as stupid as it sounds to get everything possible from before haha

[woven vale]

Cosmetics are exclusive

One they are gone they are gone

Reskins may come out

But that exact cosmetic is gone forever

[prime acorn]

okay 🙂 thank you

[prime acorn]

is there any thoughts on a mobile companion style app for the game such as WOW and other MMO's have started to have as well? Could tie in authenticators to them as well

[dark jungle]

they are planning that yes

!wiki companion app

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Companion_app

[prime acorn]

alright lol...nvm sometimes i feel like I don't need to suggest anything anymore they're really on top of making this the most dominant mmo ever...

[spiral pine]

you can always hop over to the forums and see what has already been suggested too

[prime acorn]

Very true

[prime acorn]

Any aspirations of cross platform for the newer consoles? They seem pretty intense and may be able to handle the load

[sly ore]

Can you equip a shield, and if you can, can you shield bash things without it being an ability?

[desert ivy]

Shields are a thing yes. There's a Tank skill called Shield Might that's basically a bash

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Shield_might

[native gorge]

So I can't place a freehold on a road or where a road may be in the future, but if I wanted to make a public oriented freehold by a road, the game will highlight where roads may possibly be in the future?

[dire pond]

Roads are made between 2 nodes with aggrement and quests. The game wont decide where to put them.

[native gorge]

What stops me putting a freehold in a spot where there will potentially be a road then?

[native gorge]

So all potential patching routes are restricted I guess

[graceful light]

Is there any plans for ashes of creation to come to console???

[dire pond]

Haha you funny

[native gorge]

No they're PC developers

A very common question XD

[dire pond]

Routes will change depending on freehold locations, i doubt invisible roads will block you fron putting a freehold.

[native gorge]

Ok

Do freeholds come up on the map?

[dire pond]

Only to other citizen of the node i think

[native gorge]

Aight

Last one, if I owned a tavern, would I need to supply the consumables players buy?

[dire pond]

Yes

Just like a shop

But your items needed cam be stored in the node warehouse and automaticaly sent to your shop or tavern if needed.

[native gorge]

Can an NPC manage a tavern without me (I lied, this is the last one)

[native gorge]

Sorry the node warehouse at the node center or a warehouse at the freehold?

[dire pond]

Yes you can rent an npc for you

Warehouse of the node

Cannot have a warehouse on the freehold i think

[native gorge]

Gotcha, I'll get Jahlon to confirm

[dire pond]

You could even manage your tavern via the ashes app once its open

[native gorge]

I'd prefer to bounty hunt and have a side business I can travel back to every now and then with the consumables needed

And the wiki couldn't tell me, are a tavern and and inn the same building?

[dire pond]

Indeed its a good idea, thats what great with ashes, so many opportunity and playstyle for the game

No

[native gorge]

Inn for accommodation and tavern for consumables, bulletin board, battlemap etc?

[dire pond]

Im not sure xd

[native gorge]

The wise Jahlon will know

[dire pond]

They should be different

Inn more used for a headquarter for extra loot and resting buff, tavern used for finding quest and friends

[native gorge]

No matter, I'll just build both

[dire pond]

You can have max 4 types of building on the freehold

And lvl them after

[native gorge]

Yeah, I knew that at least xD

[dire pond]

And they have more benefits depending on its locations, like a farm will work better next to fresh water

[native gorge]

What would be the location buff for taverns?

Forestry would be forest of course

Smithing and forging may be areas with rock and metal ores?

But taverns I don't really know

[dire pond]

I dont think tavern will be related to the location but surely if its near a frrquently used road you can have more clientel

[native gorge]

Yeah

I don't think it will be a good approach to give a bonus buff to only some buildings tho

[dire pond]

Well a farm in the snow shouldnt give the same as a farm next to a river

[native gorge]

True, maybe just buffs for raw resource buildings then

[dire pond]

A tavern is a building, you chose how to run it and that will bring or scare players

[native gorge]

Smelter, forestry, fishing ponds

And freehold farms

Forgot that one

[dire pond]

Animal husbandry

[native gorge]

Eh I guess it would depend what type of mount it is compared to the location. E.g a frost mount in a snowy location

This could even work with seasons to give a buff

[dire pond]

Maybe

Dont forget that for now, Ashes is 20% Alpha and 80% speculations of Steven and player theories

[fickle wigeon]

can you summon a skeleton as a necromancer out of thin air or does it require a corpse to use it

[dire pond]

Dont know, the summoner class isnt out yet

[fickle wigeon]

😦

[dire pond]

But only a summoner/cleric can be a necormmencer, so they will probably summon from thin air

[fickle wigeon]

i wonder how will they balance it, i heard you will be able to use 3 summon to micro manage it but not sure if its decided or not.

[dire pond]

Yeah up to 3 summon, seperated in dps-tank-heal. Or you can summon only 1 but will be stronger

[fickle wigeon]

can you summon 3 tank skeleton instead

[dire pond]

Dont know, we will see when the class is out

But those ideas may be possibile depending on wich skill you upgrade and what augment you will use

[fickle wigeon]

not sure if its a good idea but what about equipping your summon with weapons and armors so it can be summoned together

maybe you can do it in the later stages of the skill tree as a death knight

[dire pond]

Summon armor and weapons on your character?

[fickle wigeon]

summon your skeleton equipped with weapon and armor

instead of summoning naked

[dire pond]

I dont think they can equip gear

[fickle wigeon]

so you dont need a staff to cast healing

[dire pond]

No

Weapon are not requierd for skills, except if the skill is weapon related

[fickle wigeon]

i assume we will be able to differentiate skeleton types with their body structure

[dire pond]

So a mage could use a sword and shield but still use mage skills

[turbid basalt]

has the january pack been anouced yet? had a friend who was waiting for the preview of this month to see if he likedf it better than december to purchase it

[ruby swift]

Also remember, many of the quotes that people are basing their assumption on about combat come from when they were looking at an entirely different combat system. No one knows if those intentions will translate to what is going to be revealed in a couple months.

[dire pond]

13 january no?

[ruby swift]

Will change on Jan 13th. If they leak it will be a couple days before.

[turbid basalt]

knew they annouced few days in advance just wanted to make sure since last time it was announced on the 4th of december

ilil keep an eye out for it, thanks

[ruby swift]

January is later in the month because of the holidays.

[full badger]

@turbid basalt The dates of the cosmetics changes are always given in the announcement #news message

[dire pond]

@ruby swift do you know if player trading include gold?

[ruby swift]

Ummm..do you mean can players trade gold to each other? If so, then yes.

[dire pond]

Yeah, ty

[turbid basalt]

@full badger ohh thanks, i assumed it wouldve been the same days as the previous one, thanks for the headsup!

[ruby swift]

Most mmos in the past tried to react to player behavior after their systems had been developed, and tracking information was too hard to implement. Intrepid has stated a few different times that every interaction is tracked, including player trades. So if they see something dodgy, it won't help people trying to hide.

[dire pond]

What is considerd dodgy in player to playet trading?

[full badger]

That's a very open-ended question that I think is better suited to the discussion channels

[last fossil]

Do you think the lifetime subscription will ever be sold separately? Or will it be a kickstarter exclusive always

[full badger]

it was always going to be a kickstarter exclusive

[last fossil]

ok that's good, I'ms till contemplating whether or not I want to upgrade to it

would be sad to pay that much for it to come out cheaper down the road lol

[junior sandal]

Is it possible to craft unique stuff? Like trowing random rss together that make a verybuseless wapon are a very good qapon.. Would be nice to have a system that give a unique armor ect... So that nowlt every 1 makes the same build

[full badger]

We have been told you will be able to customise the stats, etc on crafted weapons, but we have no details on it right now @junior sandal

!wiki crafting

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Crafting

[junior sandal]

Aah oke

[dire pond]

To make an identical copy of an item you would need to see the same crafter with the same skill tree he chose.

[junior sandal]

And what do we know about random unique skills.. There is a skill three ect.. But lets say you kill 5000 ladybugs... Just saying... and ur the first 1 and it grants you a unique buff or sowmthing like that

Just asking couz im hoping not to run into people all with the same copy builds

[dire pond]

More related to associations and religions, be the highest rank in it and win powerful augment for combat or economic purpose.

[junior sandal]

Aah oke oke

Im reallybhoping for an event where i can get alpha acces haha.. That 350 dollar is a littlebit to much for me atm.. But sins i joined this discord i can actively follow everything haha

[proper crown]

Anyone that has the Alpha1 opening picture by hand or know where it might be pinned?

[full badger]

Not sure what you mean here, sorry

[dire pond]

He wants the release date of A1

[full badger]

You mean this? ^

[dire pond]

Think so xd wasnt really clear

[vapid veldt]

anyone has that pic with more resolution?

thank you so much, you've earned a kiss

[native gorge]

What was the reasoning for no crouch in game?

[junior sandal]

So much love here haha

[soft ermine]

when i can i dowload and play this game on steam ??

[craggy totem]

never

not comming out on steam

[vapid veldt]

Yeah, never. Theyll have their own launcher and will self publish

Unless you manually add it lol

[craggy totem]

but the release will be 2023 +-

[vapid veldt]

^community guesstimate

[craggy totem]

yeah

[soft ermine]

how can i be a beta tester

[vapid veldt]

Buy a pack

Cheapest is beta 2

Around 75 dollars, gets you a few other things

[soft ermine]

😦

me broke bro :Sadge:

[craggy totem]

you could aslo get them trough giveaways and some events

[vapid veldt]

recommendation is to play other games and follow monthly updates

cya in 3 years

[native gorge]

My man, Beta is roughly 1.5 years away, surely you have $75 before then

[soft ermine]

yeah cya in 3 years ::(

[vapid veldt]

yeah but the packs will probably increase in price I assume

[native gorge]

Still isn't that much if you save $10 a week for it

[vapid veldt]

Yeah its doable, I'm saving for a whole new PC before ashes launches

[native gorge]

I was talking to guys in #aoc-discussion a week ago about if you're only buying a pc for AoC then you should wait another gen

[vapid veldt]

Imo you should wait literally as much time as its possible

plan to have mine assembled around 1 month before

[native gorge]

Holy shit

[vapid veldt]

My pc is fine rn, dont need anything else unless something literally breaks

anything else would be greed

so I made the decision to just wait it out

nvidia, amd, intel, will launch waaaay more stuff

in 3 years time

[native gorge]

And won't be as inflated

[vapid veldt]

Building a PC right now for a game that launches optimistically in 2 years, more like 3, is ... Stupid?

[native gorge]

Rip on me and other new pc gamers wanting a rig tho

[vapid veldt]

Unless you reaallly need a pc , then sure

[proper crown]

Little late but thats what I meant yes thanks!

[stoic nymph]

is it true that AOC may release this year?

[digital yacht]

No

Chance

We’re in alpha 1 come March

[stoic nymph]

I saw it somewhere and I was suprised thought it will take a couple years

[digital yacht]

It will be a few more years

[stoic nymph]

cheers

how many developers are working on this btw?

[dark jungle]

around 80-90

[stoic nymph]

wow well good luck to them!

[native gorge]

Apparently hiring 30 more currently

Are the devs using 1080's or 1080ti's?

[tawdry stump]

Did the Pre Test 1 happen on schedule (Dec 18 - Dec 21)?

[dark jungle]

yes

[tawdry stump]

Awesome

[tulip hatch]

Steven's quote for their office rig specs
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[digital yacht]

^but with new office opening up when they are allowed to work in the offices again I’m sure the PCs will be upgraded too

Steven probably already secured 100 3090s 😂

[sly nova]

is there a rough idea of system requirements listed?

ty!

[rose wind]

I have a question about Node Wars/Sieges because, from my reading, it sounds like they'll very quickly get bogged down and stop happening.

So the idea is nodes are in competition with each other and in a "living world" Nodes will rise and fall, which will create content churn as the newly-rising Nodes allow previously locked content to become available.

My understanding of the system is that won't happen, though. Nodes are capped to one level below their overlord Node (per the vassal system), and so would need to destroy that Node to advance. But they can't: wars between vassal and overlord Nodes can't happen. Citizens of a vassal Node have no direct way to compete with other local Nodes, because (except in very few edge cases) they're mostly going to be vassals of the same Metropolis (vassals of vassals etc) and can't fight each other.

So maybe they hire non-citizens, but from where? The vast majority of the local playerbase is going to be citizens of local nodes, and that bans you from registering as an attacker in a Node siege. You're going to have to travel pretty far away from your Node to find people not somehow involved in the chain of vassalised Nodes.

So my question is: am I missing something here? It sounds to me like, in the vast majority of cases, Nodes actually can't compete with the Nodes round about them.

I know there's benefits, what I mean is the predicted content churn/refreshing may actually not happen very much, if at all, because Node structures will be very static

I did say edge cases are the likely friction points already. Nodes inside a Metropolis "heartland", though, will end up being very static, because every Node round about them, for some distance, will all ultimately belong to that Metropolis

Competition won't happen locally, the only real source will be one Metropolis wanting to munch some borderland off another, so those Nodes may be exciting from a siege standpoint, but everywhere else will be static

I don't understand why it isn't right, though: who's going to come and destroy Town or City level Nodes? People from half a world away? For what benefit to them?

To be clear I don't want to be right, but I don't understand why I'm not

So it will be, generally, having to buy in help from far away because there's not really a direct means of Nodes competing locally

I hope it doesn't pan out into the Node network settling in after the first few months and remaining largely static going forwards then, I believe there's that risk

[craggy totem]

will be too much drama and fighting for it to be static

unless your parent holds the sweatiest sweaters

[digital yacht]

Also need to understand without node sieges content gets stale as Jahlon said when my nodes dungeons become useless for me, guess what I do, go take over another node bring it up and make more content, destroying a node and leveling a new one adds deifferent content depending on where ur at

[pallid dune]

What does the referral program do?

[desert ivy]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program

[vapid veldt]

Since the siege is initiated by a player, can't a player from a vassal node initiate a siege on a parent node? Or is the siege initiation a declaration of war and thus impossible?

[sour junco]

It's not possible for vassal nodes to declare sieges on parent nodes. So if you are citizen of a vassal node, you can't siege the parent @vapid veldt .

[tulip hatch]

Vassal nodes and their citizens are automatically registered as defenders when a node siege is declared, you can not fight your parent node as long as you are a citizen of it or its vassal nodes

[craggy totem]

Trade /spend all valuables, then make someone siege your parent node

[teal spade]

@vapid veldt gotta hire mercs to do it for ya. don't get caught

[woven vale]

laughs in processor "Yeah go ahead and steal my resources...wait I don't have any, just swords!

[vapid veldt]

I must say I see both sides of the balance there. On one side, it provides a sense of stability, nodes will last longer and will be more static. On the other side, players really have no way to pick a node and say "I want this one to progress", since they can't siege any of the ones above while remaining tied to that specific node. Not entirely sure trading that for some stability (and way less sieges) will be the right call

[lone magnet]

how does a city get declared war?

[vapid veldt]

The "mercenary" argument is pretty weak, it's basically a "you technically can"

[lone magnet]

what you want to roleplay as a mercenary

[digital yacht]

!wiki node sieges

[tender hearth]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_sieges

[digital yacht]

@lone magnet

[blissful walrus]

where can I download the launcher for apocalypse?