same price range yes
#questions
tidal kindle
raven reef
Well shoot I will mark it up then thank you! While I got the tech talk going I’m right I’m assuming x2 8GB of ram would suffice?
tidal kindle
yup
raven reef
Dope
tidal kindle
12gb is healthy goood amount
woeful notch
Why would people use a caravan instead of just getting a group of people and transporting it in your inventory?
short flint
Because the amount of people needed to carry the same amount of a caravan can carry is a lot.
It's not 5-10 for 1x caravan. Plus you have to be able to trust all of those people as there is nothing preventing them from just running your goods to their warehouse.
woeful notch
Are node sieges going to be limited to 250 people as well?
short flint
The 250v250 is the currently limit for castle sieges only. but like Legacy stated, all of these numbers can change based on testing.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Castle_sieges
woeful notch
I hope there isn’t lol
sullen bay
With the multitude of pvp/pve styles is it possible that AOC will attract more gamers generally outside the mmo community? (Asking because ive been an fps main for 10 years and this game has me more excited than anything else coming up)
short flint
This would be a good #aoc-discussion #general-discussion topic - but i would say with the number of ways to play the game it might bring in a number of people to try mmo's out.
ancient wind
Server vs Server or riot
sinful sphinx
I'm wondering if there is any sort of a timeline for when we will find out how to become an Official Content Creator and apply?
Yeah that's just pretty vague...Was hoping there might be something a little more specific. Alas, I shall keep waiting lol
rigid rose
not yet sorry!
sullen bay
A max leveled player's quest line on an encampment level node would be much different from a level 25 players right?
slow scaffold
Will there be any climbing mechanics/jumping puzzles? I always like exploring trying to get to places you usually wouldn't go. Why spend 5 minutes following a path up a mountain when you can spend 30 trying to jump up the side of it.
ruby swift
!wiki quests
tender hearthBOT
slow scaffold
Cool, thanks 👍
crystal beacon
Quick question, mage and rogue got a special ability to reveal secrets, do I also get these if I only have rogue or mage as a second class?
crystal flax
Primary only as far as we know
crystal beacon
X_x
Alrighty
Thankies anyway
buoyant sapphire
Primary archetype gives you a special skill, but apparently every primary archetype is going to have one of these special skills
(take my statement with a grain of salt, I have a headache and am tired)
buoyant sapphire
🙂
As an example of another one of these special skills, Apparently clerics can clear the poison out of an area
crystal beacon
You are getting me even more hyped on that game, didn't thought that's possible 🙈
buoyant sapphire
I don't know if it's the only special skill they get. I know that Rogues will get the ability to parkour up certain buildings as well as find hidden passageways for instance, so there's room for each primary to have multiple unique abilities
crystal beacon
I'm curious about the summoner ability 😻
buoyant sapphire
Same. The tank one, too.
crystal flax
I believe the examples you both have listed are the only ones we know about so far
crystal beacon
That just means more reasons to be excited <3
ruby swift
!wiki utility skills
tender hearthBOT
undone wagon
dev update stream tomorrow,yeah?
steady ocean
Friday
undone wagon
thanks
fickle abyss
Who worked on the latest cosmetics? Need to tell them they are creative as hell and thank them for being apart of AoC.
vernal compass
anyone here know why i have 2 referral links to dish? not sure which to send people
young pivot
I'm really damn confused. So, are we going to have Australian and Asian servers or are gonna have just one for both?
steady ocean
@young pivot It's not been clarified as of yet if it will be in Sydney or Singapore, or both. Have some patience, or make sure to ask it on the official forum question thread for tomorrow's dev livestream
@vernal compass You can try putting in a customer support ticket
@fickle abyss Can always pass along the compliments to Ryan, seems to be the lead concept artist, or can ask a community manager to pass those to the art team 🙂
onyx knoll
The cosmetics for the packs are usually the work of Maggie with some help from the team
young pivot
So you have a character per server or you can jump from region to region but without you stuff, or nah?
steady ocean
@young pivot No server transfers that we know of. You can have characters on multiple servers, just will be their own separate things
cold locust
Alts are a thing in this game?
I mean, will I be able to have multiple characters on the same realm?
Will drops from bosses be time gated like e.g. you can loot them once per week?
reef osprey
@cold locust
yes, yes, no
plain jackal
Regarding caravans, is there a chance that a caravan would have an npc raid happen or is it only players that attack caravans?
full badger
As far as we know it's only players who attack caravans
plain jackal
ok thanks.
opal belfry
Is there a way to make the refferal link land on https://ashesofcreation.com/mmo and not the sign up page?
limber prawn
Will there be chat bubbles or will communication be entirely in chat box? I ask for the sake of the RP community. Sometimes it is easier to RP with chat bubbles.
vital oak
You had to be registerd to get the "COVID-19 Commemorative Statue" any idea until when this was?
lusty kite
yes, you had to be registers with an Ashes of Creation account before 9/7/2020 @vital oak
"As a token of appreciation from us to you, we commissioned an in-game home decor item that all registered users will receive if they were registered before or during this global crisis. Beginning September 7th, 2020, this commemorative decor item seen below will discontinue being granted for newly registered users."
sacred lantern
When is the cosmetic package change? 😃
woeful notch
Damn lucky me, i registered on sept 6
sacred lantern
Nvm found it!
vital oak
have there actually been more items as such or was this the only one so far??
full badger
The COVID-19 statue is the only item that has been given to everyone who made an account, afaik
vital oak
Any idea if there is still a possibility that i can get my hands on this or is it doomed?
full badger
If you haven't made an account before the cut-off date, there's no way of getting the statue, sorry.
opal belfry
@simple ether Having refferral links to different pages can be possible. It would have to implemented on the backend though. Example https://ashesofcreation.com/mmo?ref=<ref_code> then store the ref code in a cookie and use it on the register page. Having the refferral link only go to the sign up page that doesn't even say ashes of creation on it isn't good for conversions. I didn't know if something like this was implemented and not documented or something.
Well to get past the cookie issue, client side web storage could be used or it could be stored in the session on the server side. You could tack on the GET param ref=<ref_code> to all inks during that session.
full badger
As fascinating as this conversation is, please could we take it down to the #aoc-discussion channel instead. Or, if you like, suggest it on the forums so more people can discuss it too 🙂
pallid horizon
do we have any picture for the new studio?
onyx knoll
Not that I know of. They haven't moved back in yet
unborn sonnet
Are there any informations when AOC apocalypse will be back ?
tulip hatch
Apocalypse was stated to return after alpha 1 @unborn sonnet we'll get more information about that sometime late into A1 if plans change
silk tapir
huh? the BR mode will come back?
tulip hatch
Unsure if the BR will resume or if theyll move on to the Castle Siege mode, more info will be provided at a later time.
silk tapir
oh sorry didn't know they got their castle siege test etc. under the APOC name ( deleted my missing knowledge to avoid misinformation )
tulip hatch
Apocalypse includes the Battle Royal, Castle Sieges and Horde Modes (PvE wave defense)
full badger
Any class can use any weapon type @dim epoch
dim epoch
ah so the real question is whether scythe is a weapon type then
full badger
I don't believe so, but there might be scythe-looking weapons included in the halberds
wild trellis
They announced spears and polearms, so im assuming its not impossible to see a scythe as a variation of those
dim epoch
i hope so! im a sucker for scythes
wild trellis
What i'm wondering is if we'll see some kind of transmogs. Since we'll be able to see a character's average power level with UI in PvP, will it be possible to apply skins on top of the gear?
arctic swift
Scythes are the best
tender hearthBOT
wild trellis
oh! Aight awesome!
And do we know yet what the pricing for cosmetics will look like?
Seems the only thing they sell on the shop right now are pre-order packages
desert ivy
You can see the cosmetics if you have a pack
wild trellis
I don't, been too much burned by MMORPGs in the past that I regret backing up today
desert ivy
crystal beacon
I have a question... from 1 to 10, how cool will summoer classes be?
desert ivy
We don't know. Summoner is one of the classes we know next to nothing about really
crystal beacon
Hope i can edo tensei some mfs
wild trellis
Still a bit expensive for costumes and such, imo, that being said, it's not the BDO 40$ or WoW 75$
which is good
round belfry
Also ashes of creation expansions are free 🙂
crystal beacon
Seems like the devs arent in this chat often
fickle wigeon
community is always helpfull thankfully
wild trellis
@round belfry So were supposed to be ESO's, and look how it turned out
I'll believe when I see it
oak bridge
@wild trellis ESO never lied. The community doesn't seem to understand the difference between normal DLC's and a new Chapter (which includes new classes, skills and crafting lines) which they can charge for.
wild trellis
See, thats the thing, nobody uses the term "New Chapters" In MMORPGs, its either a new patch, or a DLC/Expansion, so using terms to confuse your community about your shady way to do business does not earn my trust
oak bridge
Albeit, I agree with you. I hope Ashes doesnt pull this sort of thing. BUT, from literature alone, they didn't lie.
wild trellis
Let's call it a gray zone
stable plover
We never really know what will be on the livestream until it happens.
sick elbow
I dont get it with this: ''All bravers and intrepid pack holders'' and ''All alpha one testers and official content creators''. Can someone explain this. Do i have to buy a package and which one for the 'Alpha One playtest'?
desert ivy
if you haven't already got an A1 pack, then you can't buy one anymore
unless you backed the kickstarter 3 years ago
then you can upgrade
slow willow
Not unless Alpha 2 starts next year.
lone magnet
So wait if I become a content creator I can get free alpha keys
slow willow
Only if you're an official one.
desert ivy
Content creator program has been shut for 2 years at this point with no word on it reopening any time soon
lone magnet
Of course I will
desert ivy
so you can't become one now until they reopen it
lone magnet
Ah God dammed
slow willow
I imagine Paradox Gaming and LazyPeon are official creators.
That's all I can think of, though.
desert ivy
Anyone with green name = official content creator
lone magnet
Tbh beating jahlon as a content creator could be easy
sick elbow
Question, if i buy 75 EUR package and after 2 months 250 EUR i have only to pay 250-75=175 EUR?
glad sleet
Yep
sick elbow
That is good
glad sleet
Keep in mind there are additional VAT costs tho
sick elbow
thx you
glad sleet
that arent included
sick elbow
VAT?
glad sleet
Value Added Tax
desert ivy
If you're in EU then yes you have to pay VAT
sick elbow
Aaah oké
Feels bad
Thx you very much!
I have to wait what happens with my land, if we gets in lockdown, i can't buy the game.
That is the whole problem
glad sleet
There is no reason to rush. They gave plenty of notice before packs go away
sick elbow
Another question, i put this server on mute but i will only information from #news #news-aoc-apoc and #web-maintenance . I have to place this channel under ' Notification settings => All messages ? But i have muted the main server on the Phoenix symbol.
Do i get a message?
dark jungle
you have to unmute the specific channel in notification settings
onyx knoll
If you right click the server and go to notification settings, you can turn off everything except @ everyone
When important information is shared in the news channels, they usually do an @ mention, so you would see those
sick elbow
So there will mention us 100%
onyx knoll
they do it for important stuff, not necessarily for reminders of things that were mentionned before
sick elbow
you mean like this: https://prnt.sc/v9mg5q
@onyx knoll
I see there is only NA moderators no EU? Is this game only for NA players?
stable plover
The current NA+OCE tag is really kind of an 'English' tag, those will probably get adjusted in the future most likely sometime after Intrepids EU office opens - Some of the 'NA' mods are in the EU right now
onyx knoll
yep, just like that! The game will be released in EU/SEA/OCE as well, we have a few mods that live in EU ^^
sick elbow
Oké great, and the question about the notifications?
onyx knoll
looks good!
sick elbow
So the settings are good?
onyx knoll
I think so, yeah ^^
sick elbow
Thx you for your help, thumbs up for you ❤️
onyx knoll
tawny bluff
the community media section should be every 23 hours. 24 hours interferes with when peeps go live
who can I ask to change that
ruby swift
You can DM Toast or MK with feedback about how the Discord or it's rules are handled. You may or may not attract a response. You can also create a forum post to leave feedback. Discord is transitory in nature due to the scrollby, no guarantee your message gets seen.
crystal beacon
How do you distinguish your self from other guilds?
Will the guild provide armor/capes that will have the guild crest/color on it or something?
tender hearthBOT
tawny bluff
ty
digital yacht
@ruby swift Oo when did they add that
stable plover
@digital yacht Feb 28 2020 livestream for guild armor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPl6trxjxqo&feature=youtu.be&t=1h06m51s&ab_channel=AshesofCreationWiki
digital yacht
meant the Wiki command @stable plover LOL
stable plover
Theoretically yesterday for this discord, but the wiki's discord has had it for about two years.
open ridge
nice
sullen bay
I wont be able to watch the dev update live tomorrow, is there someplace else besides twitch I can watch it after?
crystal beacon
Quick question
Will there be a Hydra in the game as an enemy, pet, battle pet, mount and or boss?
wild trellis
youtube?
sullen bay
@wild trellis I thought so. Just couldn't remember if all of them were there as well
wild trellis
As far as I can tell, yes
sullen bay
Thanks man
full badger
@sullen bay all the livestreams get uploaded to the Ashes of Creation youtube channel, and there are the twitch vods too
full badger
@crystal beacon We haven't seen all the enemies in the game yet, so it's entirely possible there will be some kind of hydra
crystal beacon
Yaaay
Thankies
desert ivy
There's the hydra swan pet so Intrepid have done something hydra related
oak lynx
will alpha 2 be in 2021 or 2022?
granite sun
It hasn’t been announced yet so any date would be speculation but I would guess it’ll probably start sometime in late 2021
oak lynx
Ty
ruby swift
It will be after Alpha 1. Since that has no determined end date, there is no estimation on Alpha 2
oak lynx
Ok cheers
granite sun
@ruby swift There’s more to alpha 1 then has been announced? I just assumed it ended with the last announced test date.
desert ivy
No. That's just their current roadmap. Alpha 1 doesn't necessarily end in May, that's just what they have officially scheduled so far
There could easily be another 10 A1 tests after the May one for all we know
granite sun
Oh. Thanks
tepid night
is there a reason why there isn't a thumbs up or down function in forums? i feel like it would help them see what questions or ideas people like specially for those who are just reading
crystal beacon
If each node will have their own quests and making them all unique or interesting will be hard for the devs. Often this leads to repetitive quests. Maybe we can help them out by giving them interesting ideas inside of a dedicated channel?
full badger
@tepid night There is a "like" button on the forums, but no "thumbs down" function. Feel free to suggest it on the forums if you like 🙂
@crystal beacon I'm sure they have a plan in mind for handling that, and there will be ways to give your feedback when you get into the testing phases.
crystal beacon
I mean it would be easier and quicker to finish the game with lots of inspiration
lone magnet
!wiki stream
ruby swift
That is the one you were looking for
reef osprey
@simple ether something along the lines of:
Patrol around the walls of the city and kill attacking monster?
Clear the Rats out of the sewers?
Deliver that Packages to certain npcs within the node?
?
Hopefully these tasks aren't gonna be meaningful in terms of personal progression. Nothing worse than having a "daily checklist" you have to work down if you want to progress meaningfully.
Instead, the node should suffer consequences/problems if not enough player do these.
- Not enough patrols around the city? -> weaker walls/defenses during the next siege
- The plagues weren't cleared out of the sewers? A sickness spreads through the city, increasing the city atrophy and decreasing the amount of EXP it receives per task.
- NPC X didn't receive enough ressource packages? -> His service is temporarily unavailable until the Node pop made up for it
Make them something that profits the community, not yourself. It's a game about community after all
crystal beacon
cant wait for " collect 10 flowers"
crystal beacon
All mighty flower, you can get money, magic, potions and even a gf with it 😜
Does anyone know how many leader of men ranks aoc got? :o
Just curious because maybe they will rise as the 5th race and 6th race (angel and demon)
That would be awesome 😻🙈
reef osprey
its just a skin
crystal beacon
It's not just a skin
Its a racial skin
Overwriting the race, not with stats but still
Like, humans and elves won't look different with the skin turned on
And at the end the racial differences won't be that huge, that's why I think it's possible
reef osprey
exactly,
still just a skin
not a dedicated race. With racial influences on buildings, stat-seeds, dedicated quests and interaction
...
crystal beacon
-,-
Still possible with enough people!
Just because you don't believe in it
There could even be a blood clan which only got people with a blood related outfit
So pleeeaasee
reef osprey
you could just a community around that.
Make it happen yourself
also #aoc-discussion i think
crystal beacon
I had a question, so I was In the right channel
Plus, don't get other people down with your bad mood
And I don't have the Kickstarter leader of men pack so I can't do that
full badger
reef osprey
@crystal beacon being realistic doesn't have anything to do with being in a bad mood.
Them not being a race doesn't mean there won't be dedicated (RP)-Communities focused around certain skins.
Like a blood cult could type RP-CLan, that forces everybody to wear a certain outfit could very much happen
Unlikely for the angel/demon skin though, due to the limited number of people owning it.
crystal beacon
Thats why I asked if anyone knows how many there are >.<
reef osprey
people can still upgrade their kickstarters
crystal beacon
But people who came after the Kickstarter can't get it, right? :c
reef osprey
yes they can. People who upgrade their kickstarter pack now still receives almost all the perks
crystal beacon
Where can I buy it then?
I didn't found any link
reef osprey
so its somewhere between the initial 275 LoM Backers and the 19378 Total Kickstarter Backers
you backed within the kickstarter?
crystal beacon
No
That's why I asked if people which came after the Kickstarter could still do it and you said yes :x
onyx knoll
People who came after the kickstarter can't get it anymore
reef osprey
No i didn't i said people could still upgrade their kickstarter packs
which infers that they already have one
crystal beacon
I would Definitly buy the leader of men pack if could
Well, let's not fight, we are all on the same side <3
Atleast till Ashes is out then Its WAR
MUHAHAHHAAHHAHAA
:3
reef osprey
many people would.
if you want to set up a guild around a special theme, It would probably be best to start promoting it pre-launch.
So people interested in it will be able to join the same server beforehand
crystal beacon
It was just an idea, I'm not gonna do it, I wrote a lil text in the discussion channel if you wanna know why I asked the question
Its just me theorising and thinking of how it's gonna be
sick elbow
😇
tulip grove
vivid lichen
Hello, I recently found out about this game and was wondering what good ways there are to get some more information about it. I realise that it's not even in Alpha yet.
Thank you 😄
modest kite
I dont suppose we can see the items that are available in the shop rn for pre-order in game right?
Everything looks nice on paper but.. not sure how the end-product would lok like
spiral pine
there are some examples on the wiki
modest kite
I'll check it out, cheers
onyx knoll
!wiki shell of the ancients
tender hearthBOT
faint tendon
i don't think so, they're constantly improving the player model based on the past few livestreams so i imagine they aren't eager to show off outfits that don't represent the final product
onyx knoll
The shell of the ancients is an example of a mount that was in a pack and now has a finished model
modest kite
Thanks for the example!
Also, speaking of graphics, since this game uses the UE4 (was it?) engine, are we to expect some really nice graphics later on?
ruby swift
I dont suppose we can see the items that are available in the shop rn for pre-order in game right?
Everything looks nice on paper but.. not sure how the end-product would lok like
@modest kite They have consistently knocked it out of the park in many peoples opinions on the live models that come after the concept art. After they released the quarrior mini-pets into APOC many people began to realize that.
faint tendon
yeah they're working on UE4 at the moment, i believe they've talked about upgrading to UE5 as well as a possiblity, apparently it wouldn't even take much work
modest kite
Awesome, thanks y'all for the elobarate answers, appreciate it (:
queen swan
and just to give the quarrior example in more detail -
trying to find the video of the finished thing, 1 sec
am i stupid? how do you get a video preview/thumbnail to show up?
onyx knoll
previews are disabled in this channel 🙂
queen swan
OH - shoot, barely realized this was the questions channel. My bad.... slinks away quietly
sly monolith
almost time boys... get your drinks and chips ready
fast rock
Will choosing a crafting profession lock players out of being able to gather from resources in the world? If no, will it simply be a case of not being able to collect the rare proc materials from a node or receiving fewer materials?
boreal schooner
PLOEASE GOD ASK ABOUT MONKEY PEOPLE TULNAR?!?!?!? CAN I BE A PRIMATE MAN!!?!??!?!
arctic swift
@fast rock im not 100% but i think you can only learn from 1 artisan tree (gather, process, craft) so if you're a crafter you will need to buy or borrow from guild bank
fast rock
Yeh, i kinda figured it would be like that. would drive too hard against the philosophy of requiring community involvement in the economy.
paper bloom
where can I find the timeline of beta's/launch etc?
potent thunderBOT
paper bloom
thank you 😄
tulip hamlet
Are there any plans in the works for an unarmed-centric class?
reef osprey
no, there aren't currently
tulip hamlet
Alas! Would be neat. Thanks!
boreal schooner
how big do swords get
sly monolith
omfg so many visuals i was so scared of this... looks like bdo visuals overdue'ing it
boreal schooner
can probably turn it down like in ffxiv
sly monolith
why do developers do this? make so much shit on your screen, when you can hardly see wtf is going on
digital yacht
It’s all a WIP
boreal schooner
some people like me love it, others dont, theyll have options im sure and also make them look better over time
flat hearth
After you have purchased a bundle, does anyone know how to view the cosmetic shop?
sly monolith
ye wip ofc... i hope you can turn them all off..
digital yacht
@flat hearth u already own those cosmetics so I believe they wouldn’t show up in the store u will have to wait til next month to see the new ones
dry peak
What are the weapons/armor that Bard has affinity with? 😓
solar marlin
is your ashes of creation website name going to be your in-game name?
sullen sun
This is probably a stupid question, but, for the NDA alpha tests I'm assuming that multiboxing with someone not on the NDA is not allowed
crimson stream
How much is the subscription fee gonna be?
boreal schooner
prob standard 15
pastel notch
My friends and I were wondering, if a new Mayor is elected and decides to change the direction of the city by demolishing a building or two, is there a delay between the decision to demolish a building and it actually happening? If so, is there any confirmation on how long? Would there be any obvious warning for the citizens of that city?
boreal schooner
i require knowledge pertaining to the MAXIMUM SWORD size
@pastel notch i believe the delay will be however long it takes to physically demolish the building based on its animation for breaking down
pastel notch
so I suppose that's not something we actually know yet?
It seems like it could be very punishing to not be logged in at the exact time a new mayor is elected and be able to use/remove good from/etc that building prior to the demolition, hence my question
that's a good clarification
the question here comes from a much larger conversation we were having regarding how much control does another player really have over what you're able to do at any given time
i.e. mayors deciding wars/city layouts/etc
i appreciate the answers
yea we were curious maybe about some of those limitations
steady ocean
mayors will be chosen over a period of time, it won't be a short window
pastel notch
yea I do get that, it was more about the exact timing of the decision to demolish a building and the moment the building is gone
e.g. As a crafter I decide to become a citizen of a particular city because they have a specific building required for the tier of crafting i want to do. A new mayor is elected the following week and he decides that the building in question is no longer his (and the people that elected him) desired direction for the city and elects to demolish it. Now I've joined a city that won't provide me with the capability for which I joined and have to make a hard choice about leaving for another city. Wondering how bad it would feel to be offline when that choice is made and have no opportunity to get the use out of the building prior to demolition 😛
sorry, really long message
Ahh, I hadn't known the exact length of time between swapping citizenship
onyx quiver
anyone knows about regional pricing policy they will follow? because it costs a lot of money in my country based on euro or dollar.
sly monolith
eu site aint up yet..
mossy scaffold
now that the stream is over, does anyone know how many slots we have for armor, meaning like, is it divided by gauntlets, head, shoulder, chest and leggings or what?
ruby swift
anyone knows about regional pricing policy they will follow? because it costs a lot of money in my country based on euro or dollar.
@onyx quiver Only that they have said they are looking into harmonization, no specific prices have been given or regions planned.
onyx knoll
@onyx quiver There has been mentions of price harmonization for some countries that would lower the monthly sub. You'll be required to play on servers with others that pay the same price as you, however, and we don't know yet what those price will be exactly. You could take a look at how much a sub to WoW is for you, it might give you a rough idea of what you might expect
tender hearthBOT
mossy scaffold
ty
onyx quiver
Thank you very much! appreciate the fast response 🙏
bright stirrup
What did the kickstarter pioneer package give?
stable plover
@solar marlin Your individual characters have their own names that you set in game not tied to your account.
ruby swift
@bright stirrup https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pioneer
dark jungle
it has a cooldown unk
bright stirrup
thanks
dark jungle
its around 30 seconds
ruby swift
Yeah, knew about the cooldown. Thought the search results when there are multiple dont list since it is occluding the embeds.
tender hearthBOT
dark jungle
okay they fixed it!
ruby swift
Yay! more tools! More fun!
crystal beacon
will there be korean servers?
dark jungle
not initially but could be in future based on demand
crystal beacon
i see ok
potent spear
guys one question, can i play the game 100 percent on water, like a pirate guild ?
dark jungle
probably not 100% but you could play alot on water
i mean if your ship gets destroyed you still have to launch a new one from a port
raven reef
!wiki stats
tender hearthBOT
silk tapir
If there is a Niküa node that is sufficiently upgraded you might be able to live the pirate dream and have the island node as your bounty bay
potent spear
probably not 100% but you could play alot on water
@dark jungle there will be ocean nodes ?
ruby swift
Was about an hour and a half, there is no TL;DR
uneven valley
thank you ❤️
ruby swift
@dark jungle there will be ocean nodes ?
@potent spear There are no ocean nodes, but ZOI from land is said to extend into water.
dark jungle
@dark jungle there will be ocean nodes ?
@potent spear there will be coastal and island nodes, but none in the ocean directly
potent spear
thanks 🙂
dark jungle
and yes as unk said, the zoi of some nodes will extend over water
raven reef
!wiki rogue
tender hearthBOT
vapid spoke
@potent spear There will also be coastal nodes that have a harbors linked to them. Those harbors will be where you build ships and potentially unlock more ocean content.
raven reef
!wiki classes
tender hearthBOT
ruby swift
@raven reef Please don't spam the wiki function unless answering a question here, we just got them to turn the embeds back on, if people start the spam again it will be taken away.
raven reef
Oh ok which thread is best to do this in my bad
potent spear
@potent spear There will also be coastal nodes that have a harbors linked to them. Those harbors will be where you build ships and potentially unlock more ocean content.
@vapid spoke cool
ruby swift
Any of the discussion channels
raven reef
Ok thanks
crystal beacon
so if you buy the preorder pack you can play game forever?
crystal beacon
i see
stable plover
@crystal beacon AoC is sub based and the current preorder packs come with a set number of months of sub time that start after launch (The alpha/beta phases aren't included in the listed number of sub months)
late wagon
If you pick a name in alpha/beta does it save your name for the release?
limpid parcel
How well done will the AI be? I really love games which have AIs close to human beings with each NPC being a unique being.
dark jungle
!wiki AI
tender hearthBOT
dark jungle
If you pick a name in alpha/beta does it save your name for the release?
@late wagon if you purchase the pack with name reservation yes, you can reserve your name for release
limpid parcel
@dark jungle Thank you. I've had a quick read and it looks really good! Do you happen to know if all the NPCS will be voice acted?
late wagon
@dark jungle Ok thanks. What if you get a key from the stream?
dark jungle
npcs will have voice acted greetings, but there are no voice acted quests planned currently
@dark jungle Ok thanks. What if you get a key from the stream?
@late wagon the keys from the charity streams are access to alpha 1 only, they dont come with any extras such as name reservation
limpid parcel
npcs will have voice acted greetings, but there are no voice acted quests planned currently
@dark jungle So no main story quests or side quests will have voice acting?
tender hearthBOT
limpid parcel
That's disappointing
dark jungle
they may add voice acting post release however
limpid parcel
they may add voice acting post release however
@dark jungle I hope they do. If not it will be a huge turnoff for me on RP aspects :( .
queen swan
yeah, i reaaaallly hope they can add move voice acting than is currently planned. i know all their other systems are ambitious, so they have bigger fish to fry right now, but voice acting just adds a level of immersive polish that would be the cherry on top for ashes
limpid parcel
@idle siren You better add voice acting!!! 
yeah, i reaaaallly hope they can add move voice acting than is currently planned. i know all their other systems are ambitious, so they have bigger fish to fry right now, but voice acting just adds a level of immersive polish that would be the cherry on top for ashes
@queen swan I 100% agree. It just makes it much more immersive and fun to just roam around and live life in another world. It just makes me feel like I'm living a different life in another world.
queen swan
gonna definitely agree to disagree on that one - and lets move this to #aoc-discussion
sullen sun
Wait did they not say that they were going to allow multiboxing? As long as the other box wasnt being controlled by a bot
Pretty sure that was in a faq video
quartz coral
Question———— what color is a mirror?
desert ivy
Yes
digital yacht
Question———— what color is a mirror?
@quartz coral depends on what ur wearing 😉
lapis ibex
does anyone know what the song is called at the beginning of the livestream when the countdown is happening?
torpid tangle
fervent hamlet
Our server is going to be region locked? My plans are to move country in the next few years but I still want to be able to play AOC without losing all my progress once I move.
dark jungle
some servers with lower sub prices will be region locked
if you want to be able to move regions then roll your characters on a server that isnt region locked
fervent hamlet
Usa to norway
dark jungle
i dont think either of those regions will be locked
you will know more closer to release though
fervent hamlet
Alright, I'll try to keep an ear out for further information
quick cape
Ok to those mighty and wise ones. When listening to the stream and about guild things one topic comes to my mind. On several occasions in different MMO's usually the biggest guild always win. With that say I mean those with numbers always win and no matter skill, nor intention with winning.
As this feels to be the real thing I was just wondering how Castles will work. As you mention on the stream you can always create new guilds. With that can for example a big guild with alt guilds control the whole server map when it comes to Castles and maybe Metropolis and with that in the long run basically "killing" the server when it comes to fun battles and interest, or?
I have seen numerous times big communities streaming just with intention of just dominating the map/server for viewers and likes just for the fun of it. I strongly feel this can easily kill the vibe for those who want to play small scale and even medium and will just stop gaming this game. Maybe this question is too detailed at this stage but this is a deep concern to me.
late wagon
@dark jungle oki thanks alot
onyx knoll
If your guild can convince all 20 thousand players on your server to serve them.... then I suppose technically they can control the whole map as a giant out-of-game coalition. The game itself only support alliances of up to 4 guilds, and guilds cap at 300 max players, if you invest all your points into size instead of other bonuses, so as far as the mechanics are concerned you could have at the very max an alliance of 1200 players.
1200 players isn't anywhere NEAR enough to control the whole map, but as I said, you could have alliances with people that aren't supported by the game. I personally doubt it'll work out very well, people like drama too much for a coalition of that size to survive for more then a few months.
quick cape
hmm ok thanks. Well I have seen many times how organised people can kill and scare away many people in different games. However if those are the numbers on a server then it might be tricky to pull off. Thanks for swift answer. I just hope this is the ONE as many other have disappointed me so many times
crystal beacon
So when its fully released then will it be free or would we have to pay?
sharp bramble
There's no box price but will be subscription based
crystal beacon
i see
crystal beacon
hmm ok
lean marlin
Cosmetics will not however. You will still have to buy those from the shop, or find them in game (these ones are free though). Expansions are free though.
crystal beacon
Habra servidores para Latino America
quasi sedge
what is the Guild Member limit for each guild?
onyx knoll
300 is the very max, if you spend all your guild point toward guild size
quasi sedge
how many members can you have when you create?
onyx knoll
we don't have a number for that currently as far as i know
quasi sedge
in alpha, nobody created guilds?
onyx knoll
alpha is under NDA
quasi sedge
ah okay ty ty
thorn ridge
The team talked about how some classes and comps would be advantaged or disadvantaged when facing certain other compositions or encounters. The question I have as it relates to that comes back towards clans as a whole. When someone joins a clan, is it tied to the character, or the account? Meaning, if I were to join, for example, Clan NoobStompers, on my main character, when I switch to an alt, would they also be in NoobStompers, or would they be clanless? The reason for this question: If the clan membership is account tagged, rather than character tagged, this would allow people to have alts they can use in different circumstances, without being forced to take up additional guild slots that might be able to go to other people.
digital yacht
even if we had that info of alpha guild size, it wouldnt matter as the Guild Leveling system isnt in place atm, therefore everything is kinda just their as we have seen from streams its just a invite person and thats it, very basic so knowing the limit would be pointless, last i heard the number was 50 min but that could change during testing, im sure it wont be less than 20-30 tho
The team talked about how some classes and comps would be advantaged or disadvantaged when facing certain other compositions or encounters. The question I have as it relates to that comes back towards clans as a whole. When someone joins a clan, is it tied to the character, or the account? Meaning, if I were to join, for example, Clan NoobStompers, on my main character, when I switch to an alt, would they also be in NoobStompers, or would they be clanless? The reason for this question: If the clan membership is account tagged, rather than character tagged, this would allow people to have alts they can use in different circumstances, without being forced to take up additional guild slots that might be able to go to other people.
@thorn ridge Guilds are per character
!wiki Guilds
tender hearthBOT
digital yacht
ah okay ty ty
@quasi sedge Also u need 5 min to form a guild
Minimum member count of around five individuals.[7]
@thorn ridge
woeful notch
will crafting and gathering have their own leveling and skills seperate from the main class?
like how ffxiv does crafting and gathering
queen swan
There systems around crafting/artisans/gathering sound like they will be quite in depth
woeful notch
I shall become god
woeful notch
so imma need 18 characters
onyx knoll
probably not that many, no
we know you can master more then 1 job per character, as long as it's in the same branch
tho you won't be able to master ALL of the job in 1 branch on one toon
but you could be a master fisher/farmer on 1 character. This isn't the full list of jobs also, only what was 100% confirmed
woeful notch
ooof i see, i really wanna get a bunch of maxed characters. but if new dlcs and levels are supposed to happen every 3 months that’s gonna be hard
onyx knoll
mh, they said there would be new content every 3 months or so, but not necessarily new lvl caps
could be new dungeons or raids etc
woeful notch
hmmm on the wiki coulda sworn it says that new expansions will be released quarterly and they’ll included new levels/gears/raids etc
!wiki expansions
tender hearthBOT
onyx knoll
yeah keep in mind that's a quote from 2017
but yeah, keeping like 10 alts up to date will deff be very hard
especially considering how slow they're looking to make the leveling
woeful notch
i’m down to give it a shot that, at the very least i wanna make sure i have a few characters maxed
onyx knoll
They really want to encourage people interacting and trading with each other, so it's most likely going to be insane trying to have EVERY job mastered yourself 🤣
woeful notch
hahaha yeahhh, that’s why i want it all XD i shall be the crafting king. has anything been said what the ease of gold will be?
onyx knoll
bit early for economy questions I think
vapid spoke
@modest widget you can, you just will lose your house. At least in terms of house taxes. Then apparently your house goes up to auction.
modest widget
I was more talking about paying taxes from a smaller node to the large node
vapid spoke
@undone prairie nothing is final. There is a lot of options for change. Some of the skills were pulled from the playtest for PAX in i believe 2017. A lot of the "ultimate skills" that involve focus have not been seen in recent gameplay footage.
@modest widget ah sorry I missed that. I believe if you are a vassal you have no choice.
tender hearthBOT
quick sable
I hope this makes it through the filters.
Hello huge fan of what intrepid is doing and I wish more game studios where like you guys.
Anyway on to my question.
I’m in the military and love MMORPGs. I played ESO for a while but after 6 years the game has become extremely laggy and a bit stale. I would like to know if there is any way someone who can not commit a large amount of time can make there own place in the world? Me and a few of my friends would like to have a guild of 20-30 people and have a freehold. Is that possible? We would still like to be active in our node but we would like our own place in the world. Is that possible?
vapid spoke
@digital yacht In one of the video steven talks about property taxes and says if you dont pay them, you lose your in node house.
digital yacht
I hope this makes it through the filters.
Hello huge fan of what intrepid is doing and I wish more game studios where like you guys.
Anyway on to my question.
I’m in the military and love MMORPGs. I played ESO for a while but after 6 years the game has become extremely laggy and a bit stale. I would like to know if there is any way someone who can not commit a large amount of time can make there own place in the world? Me and a few of my friends would like to have a guild of 20-30 people and have a freehold. Is that possible? We would still like to be active in our node but we would like our own place in the world. Is that possible?
@quick sable yea its possible any1 can have a freehold as long as u are able to buy the plot before they all get bought out, as for a guild hall i dont know if we have the info about every1 having one or certain numbers available
!wiki Guilds
tender hearthBOT
digital yacht
if u want to read all about guilds there ya go
@digital yacht In one of the video steven talks about property taxes and says if you dont pay them, you lose your in node house.
@vapid spoke news to me thanks
quick sable
Is legacy a dev?
digital yacht
no we are a guild lol
Devs are yellow
Red are Community Mods
Green is Official Content Creators
Blue/Light Blue normal ppl
dark jungle
"normal"
quick sable
Well what are the chances they all got bought out?
quick sable
Wish I could play hardcore but with my job I doubt it would be possible
digital yacht
that system isnt/hasnt been shown yet so its hard to tell
vapid spoke
@quick sable This is my opinion but I think it will depend on the server. Some servers will have a place for anyone. Others will be less friendly towards random unaffiliated people. Intrepid has said they want to make the world history of each server available to people, to make a decision on where they would like to play. Check out the world history part of the wiki Lore page.
!wiki lore
tender hearthBOT
soft sorrel
Today, class and party balance was brought up on stream, I agree that balancing the game around 1v1 wouldn't be correct. Aftrer many years playing Zerg v. Zerg and PvP games a correct balance metric would probably be on a scale of 10v10. What is the ideal party size going to look like for dungeons, raids, and small scale PvP (sub 20 players)?
tender hearthBOT
quick sable
@vapid spoke
digital yacht
@soft sorrel
vapid spoke
@soft sorrel also check out this awesome statement from steven on zerg combat
!wiki zergs
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quick sable
@vapid spoke we will be very active and affiliate with our node. However we may not be able to put excessive hours in
digital yacht
Like can exceed X hours a week
@quick sable there will only be one type of server PvP servers. No Rp Servers no PvE servers all servers will be the same, just depends on what groups go to which server
vapid spoke
@quick sable It was more in terms of some of these massive guilds, like GoonSquad and other thousands of members guilds that will come in from other games.
Some servers may be completely taken over, but it wont be the norm
quick sable
@vapid spoke we plan on being loyal vassels however i know we can’t compete with mega guilds
Any mega guilds want vassels? We expect reasonable tax rates lol
soft sorrel
@digital yacht Thanks for the info
digital yacht
Guilds arent a big focus in this game, unless ur competing for a Guild Castle
Guilds will not own Nodes
vapid spoke
Other servers may become Streamer servers, like Shroud, Summit1g, Asmongold may be able to fill entire servers on their own. We will have to see what effect that has on a server. That is why the World History fact on the Lore part of the wiki is fascinating.
vapid spoke
Just make sure you pick a server without any major organizations. Steven has also talked about having Server reservations before launch so guilds can reserve together and also smaller communities can try and choose an appropriate server to start on.
queen swan
There will be more freehold spots in higher level nodes, yeah? i get the impression that there will be plenty of room for freeholds
stable plover
@queen swan My impression is that there will technically be more freehold spots in higher level nodes, because the higher level node will have a larger ZOI, but as far as I know there's not deliberate gating of valid freehold spots within nodes that are high enough level to have them at all (Does not include things like blocking out areas where freeholds can't go because of terrain/dungeons/important npc spawns/quests/etc)
queen swan
Gotcha @stable plover - so no specific quantity gating, just however many can fit in a ZOI, and the ZOI is bigger for higher level nodes. that's what you're saying?
stable plover
yeah
muted finch
Anyone know if the security thing in the shop is broken? I cannot purchase the Voyager plus pack.
spark lark
@muted finch it wasn’t working for me earlier in the month
Had to confirm with my credit card bc it thought it was a scam
Doesn’t like the Xsolla company apparently
sinful mortar
xsolla does have a chequered reputation amongst banks
unfortunately it's difficult to find a provider who offers service in a similar range of currencies and regions
I would guess it's because they support games primarily (and perhaps f2p/indie titles are an extra risk) which are always a fraud risk for a service that operates in the more unusual countries
cosmic vale
Where can I find the winner of the gourd contest?
manic kraken
Latest stream
manic kraken
Oh yeah
waxen lichen
can you kill people on your freehold?
waxen lichen
k ty
if i go kill people and become corrupted can i then go to my freehold and wait till my corruption goes away? Since i cant be killed on my freehold?
desert ivy
Waiting doesn't reduce corruption
The only two ways currently are by dying which will mean you'll gain an extra 300-400% exp debt, or by gaining experience
manic kraken
Farm monsters or die
waxen lichen
dont you gain exp from crafting stuff?
waxen lichen
o kay that makes since ty
That's all the questions i have for tonight ty and good night.
tepid night
Can you log out if corrupted?
onyx knoll
Huh, you know, i'm not sure anyone has asked that. I'm pretty sure you can, but idk if it's been officially said one way or the other
tepid night
Im juat thinking if bounty huntrrs are on the way.. You could just log out to dodge them
ruby swift
Yes, you can log out. But your avatar will persist in the game world for a time period (most likely a minute) after logout to keep people from using it as an escape from pvp.
tepid night
Is that for corrupted only?
ruby swift
They have already thought of most loopholes and workarounds. There are several dozen threads on corruption on the forums, and all of those "I KNOW HOW TO GET AROUND THE SYSTEM!" statements they address. It will be tested extensively in the alphas and betas. Just learn to live with it.
Is that for corrupted only?
@tepid night No, everyone
tepid night
Cool
dire pond
What about logging out during a transaction?
vapid spoke
@desert ivy @waxen lichen According to the most recent wiki anniversary quiz freeholds and taverns on freeholds only offer safe haven to the owner. Other patrons/guests can still fight each other, which I assume means the owner can kill them if they are in the way or harassing. I don't think we know yet how that will tie into the corruption and combatant system. Also note that after a node is sieged and destroyed there is a period where people can raid your freehold and you can defend it from them.
@tepid night i dont think we know for sure, but from what I have seen from other somewhat similar systems in other MMOs logging out while corrupted will have your character stay in the world either until corruption fully drops off or they are killed. It will be an issue that will probably have to be watched as testing progresses as a persons freehold also offers them a safehaven. Getting corrupted, making it to your freehold and logging off until people are no longer actively chasing you could cause some issues with how the bounty hunter system is intended to work.
languid ember
Corruption does seem to be kindof a cat and mouse system though, and if you manage to make it to your freehold, you still need to get your corruption down by earning xp/questing, so unless you wait till it’s the most inactive times of the day you’ll still run into the possibility of bounty hunters just having a grand old time outside your freehold, and would give more bounty hunters time to move into the area too if said corrupted player was a big mark.
vapid spoke
@languid ember very, true. You dont lose corruption while on your freehold. But could log off and play an alt until inactive times. Other thing to note is crafting/processing does give you EXP. I am assuming that exp wouldn't count toward dropping corruption? Its unanswered questions, but I am sure intrepid with the help of their amazing community testers will come up with a good solution.
languid ember
I thiiink I remember them saying specifically xp from killing mobs? Not positive though. Also that does mean you’re playing on an alt rather than (potentially) your main character
vapid spoke
Yes, but at a certain point people will have alts that compete with their main character. I do think you may be right that they said EXP from killing mobs, would have to double check though.
anyway, I am off to bed. It was a pleasure discussing this and hearing your valid points!
languid ember
Either way though, the fact would remain that it’d effectively keep the corrupted player from killing willy-nilly, if they’re just offline. Have a gn!
Edit: hm, this did make me think of another scenario though, say a player becomes a citizen of a node, buys a freehold, and then becomes a nuisance to the node by becoming a corrupt player, and their freehold is between the node and a good resource farming location, what options would be available to the mayor/node citizens to deal with said person? Only can destroy freeholds post node destruction (afaik), which the node residents wouldn’t want, and nodes want the raw mats to build up city defenses/utility/services/market, but guarding the entrance/exit of the freehold during prime time for gatherers to bring in raw mats to the node seems tedious and logically doesn’t make much sense, in a situation like that a mob with pitchforks would just burn down their estate/they’d be imprisoned. But at the same time, giving mayors/citizens the ability to “vote” the destruction of a freehold seems like too much
cold locust
I like the idea of pitchfork and voting a citizen out of the node.
I have a question (please tag when u answer):
When do I get my 1st ground mount? Is it unlocked via a quest or do I buy it ? Or do I need a specific level to unlock?
thorny hearth
Is there exclusive stuff that only drops from dungeon bosses? like mounts, gear, cosmetics...
ruby swift
!wiki mounts
tender hearthBOT
ruby swift
Is there exclusive stuff that only drops from dungeon bosses? like mounts, gear, cosmetics...
@thorny hearth Yes
fallow wind
Regarding professions and general skills, is there a map or tree to look at for the limited choice professions, and what will be the general skills available to all (like fishing, cooking, etc.)? Additionally, if only one branch of the professions can be "mastered", does that mean that a player can achieve some limited capabilities in other professions?
cosmic belfry
oak depot
So I think there was a slight amount of confusion Steven created with his answer to the “can guilds respec guild progression points” in yesterday’s Q&A. He said “no” which is fine and I agree with; however, when he said “I guess you could create another guild” what I think needed to be said for clarity is that if you do that you still won’t be able immediately respec your guild points as the new guild would start at progression level 1 and not at the same progression level as the guild you just disbanded. Sure, the new guild can allocate the skill points as it sees fit as it progresses, but that will take some amount of time/work/effort that is not trivial. Is this the belief of others too or am I crazy?
steel minnow
it is
ruby swift
It is, but like many other things, it will most likely change. They have also awarded guild specific barding and cloaks through the Kickstarter and had a whole tier that was focused on guilds. They have said that once those rewards are assigned to the guild they cannot be moved. Telling people "oops, you fucked up your progression, so now you either live with it or lose something you paid for to support the game!" will not go over well.
The main worry is to stop people from cheesing the system to gain advantage and to make your choices have worth. They will surely find a solution.
crystal beacon
Tried to search this page but cannot find the answer to this.. when will AOC release on PS4?
ruby swift
Tried to search this page but cannot find the answer to this.. when will AOC release on PS4?
@crystal beacon Most likely never
crystal beacon
I don't personally know, but I don't think so. Because, AOC will launch as it's own entity on pc instead of through popular launchers. Doesn't mean much though it's happened before
crystal beacon
Console is possible!
ruby swift
Sure, if Steven was to change his opinion down the line. But as recently as the "Future of Online Gaming" panel he participated in he has outlined why he thinks mmorpgs are best experienced on pc. And even then it would be on PS5 (or whatever the latest iteration is at that point)
crystal beacon
Okay thank you for your answers
Unknown are there roles for alpha 2?
Or just the kickstarter ones
ruby swift
No, they assign roles when needed since they use them to give access to specific locked channels.
Since A2 won't be under NDA, don't know why they would need to make a new set of locked channels.
crystal beacon
Fair enough, thank you
jaunty hearth
Two questions that I am sure have been asked before, but I cannot find them, so here we go.
- Is there an Alpha build being tested atm?
- If there is an Alpha build, how do you get into it, I have pre-ordered the game back in August this year.
ruby swift
- Steven has talked about testing, and they even showed some gameplay from a testing session earlier today (depending on your time zone). Those in it are under NDA and if they are testing they cannot tell anyone unless specifically released by Steven on a case by case basis.
- The current testing that has been talked about in the creative directors letters is a pre A1 build for Leader of Men backers and above from the crowdfunding. If you are at that tier and have not received your NDA or information, contact customer support.
jaunty hearth
@ruby swift Thanks very much for the info. I am not sure what the name of my package I bought is, I only know it cost £149.20.
ruby swift
Think that gives you access to B1. You have a bit of a wait.
crystal beacon
Will A1 testers be able to play during A2 and after?
ruby swift
You can upgrade Intrepid packages from their website to the $375 level, which gives access to A2 currently. There is no way to enter A1 unless you win a key or are a Kickstarter/Summer backer from 2017 and upgrade that way.
jaunty hearth
@ruby swift O nce again, thank you very much.
ruby swift
Will A1 testers be able to play during A2 and after?
@crystal beacon Those with packages received keys for further phases. Those that win A1 keys and not full packages will only participate in A1 as they have explained it currently.
crystal beacon
Okay I gotcha, thank you
jaunty hearth
So guys, is this going to be mainly a PvP game, or will there also be plenty of content for PvE players?
ruby swift
It is billed as PVX. Both really. Pvp drives certain systems, pve others. It doesn't work the way they have described it in detail as purely one or the other.
jaunty hearth
So does that mean that you can be forced into PvP action?
ruby swift
You can be attacked in the open world, yes. There are risks and advantages to it for both players, the instigator and the defender. You can choose to not react and cause them to take a higher penalty for their actions, you can fight back and take a lesser penalty if you lose. It is a very in depth system. I suggest you start with this and work your way through the information. There is a ton.
!wiki player corruption
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queen swan
There is a key point of understanding though, that if you want to be able to completely avoid pvp your whole time playing, that is likely impossible.
jaunty hearth
Hmm, not being a fan of PvP, I would rather be able to sit back as an industrialist, like, miner, crafter etc. in a Guild and only get involved in PvP to defend our Castle.
queen swan
You can do that. But you just have to be aware that technically even if you are just out to mine something, someone could attack you. Might not happen often. Might not happen hardly ever. But could technically happen. So you might want to scout things out for safety or bring a friend.
ruby swift
Hmm, not being a fan of PvP, I would rather be able to sit back as an industrialist, like, miner, crafter etc. in a Guild and only get involved in PvP to defend our Castle.
@jaunty hearth
jaunty hearth
But surely there must be some safe areas, where you can chill out and do your thing?
ruby swift
!wiki freehold
tender hearthBOT
queen swan
Your freehold :)
And taverns i think, and in cities the pvp is still turned on, so you Could be attacked, bit there are guards and other people, so not likely.
jaunty hearth
Thank you for the link.
ruby swift
There is a lot of information to go through. Feel free to ask questions when you have something. That is what this channel is for. There is usually someone on who has an answer or a link to one.
jaunty hearth
Thank you, yes, I am also watching the livestream atm.
reef osprey
@tawny bluff there won't be any /follow mechanic in the game
tawny bluff
dope thanks
patent willow
there will be target of target in the UI ?
ruby swift
They have said that yes, there will be target of target and assist functions.
Basically anything that automates actions or could be used for ease of botting will be restricted.
./follow is one of those commands that multiboxers and botters rely on heavily.
tawny bluff
Right im trying to think of good discussion points so that my intrepid dudes change their stance
on multiboxing on seperate pcs
patent willow
@ruby swift thanks dude
zealous geode
Will there be guild tags that are meant to be guild names shortened to a few characters and if so how many?
dark jungle
3 is the minimum for usernames, could be similar
digital yacht
Will there be guild tags that are meant to be guild names shortened to a few characters and if so how many?
@zealous geode we don’t know yet
crystal beacon
do we have any idea of how they'll look
crystal beacon
hope they won't be furry bait
i like beastial races but they often get sexualized in a weird way by zoophilacs
mystic sorrel
they will bait furries for sure
zealous geode
Will you be allowed to be in game racist with regards to favoring one in your land as opposed to another?
I def want to purge xenos
crystal beacon
i hope so, as it allows for more rp
full badger
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here but nodes will take on the visual appearance of whatever Race contributes most to it. However, you cannot stop any particular race from living in a node @zealous geode
crystal beacon
immersiveness in the game
but it depends on how much people want to roleplay in the game
zealous geode
Hmm
But you can drive them from a land by taking away their liberties and preventing them from joining a guild which controls said territory?
full badger
Nope
crystal beacon
it would be cool to exile people
full badger
The most you can do is make a race-specific guild and deny entry to your guild to any races you don't like
zealous geode
Dang
full badger
But that won't stop other races from living in a specific node
mystic sorrel
Can't the mayor just enemy of the state all X race?
crystal beacon
you can also go around and gank people based on their race i suppose
mystic sorrel
one at a time.
small pecan
Possibly! We don’t know if there is going to be a cap
desert ivy
Enemy of the state only works for non-citizens
small pecan
Can an enemy of the state get citizenship in the node? 🤔
mystic sorrel
i would go with no
zealous geode
Hopefully they add more ways for players to control the politics then, I think RP as a racial supremacist state would be hilarious
Especially in current times 😛
mystic sorrel
so the anti race people could theoretically mass catalogue and enemy of the state all of one race. and or simply use PK characters to harass them away from their town even if they are citizens
small pecan
So the other catch with Enemy of the State is that they need to be a citizen of a node that isn’t yours
spiral pine
so maybe move this to that
zealous geode
sure
small pecan
If they have no node, can’t add them to the list
Also implies that if they dropped citizenship of their current node, they would no longer be enemies
crystal beacon
Can we get trophies from killing people? Like ears marked with their names or something?
full badger
Since the initial question has been answered, please now take this discussion down to #aoc-discussion, thanks 🙂
Can we get trophies from killing people? Like ears marked with their names or something?
@crystal beacon afaik you don't get any character-specific trophies. The only things that can drop are items from the inventory
crystal beacon
That's still awesome, like Tibia and other such oldschool MMORPGs.
zealous geode
How does item drop work? I read that unlawfuls drop more but I’m not entirely sure what that means, are certain lawful player items soul bound?
Also how might I change my nickname on this discord for my new clan [Dominion]?
crystal beacon
Do /nick
Or click on the drop down menu at the top left, next to "Ashes of Creation"
full badger
@zealous geode So the way the system currently works is you have 3 types of players - Non-combatants, Combatants and Corrupted players. Non-combatants have a chance to drop gathered resources on death, as well as getting exp debt. Combatants have the same kind of penalties but at half the rate of a Non-combatant. A Corrupted player suffers penalties 4 times higher than a Non-combatant.
!wiki Player Death
tender hearthBOT
full badger
You can read more about it in greater detail here
digital yacht
Also how might I change my nickname on this discord for my new clan [Dominion]?
@zealous geode right click ur name and hit change nickname
zealous geode
Oh I suppose I can’t on mobile, I’ll have to do it next time I’m home.
digital yacht
Oh I suppose I can’t on mobile, I’ll have to do it next time I’m home.
@zealous geode click the 3 dots for Ashes discord settings
zealous geode
I see, thanks!
lofty briar
nocturne coral
are there magic swords for mages?
steady ocean
Yes
nocturne coral
sweeeet
digital yacht
any weapon for anyone but like if u wanna play a ranger, ofc the bow is gunna be ur go to weapon but u dont necessarily have to 🙂
u will miss out on some ranged skills if u dont have a bow
nocturne coral
o
onyx knoll
crafters will be able to control what stats are on the weapons they make, so you could easily get a sword that increases intellect
languid ember
I wonder if the sword damage itself would scale with another stat possibly though, because if not you could argue a strength based spellbook is the flipside.
uneven valley
i think class skills are weapon-agnostic
you get a set of skills dependent on your weapon and a set of skills based on class iirc
full badger
Is there a way to register to alpha one preview/test? and on shop if I buy the one which is 375$ I will start testing only after alpha one which is during april 6 to may 6 on 2021?
@glossy maple There is currently no way to buy into Alpha 1. The $375 pack on the store only gives access to Alpha 2, which will happen sometime after Alpha 1 is complete
More information about it here
low forge
Do we know about how frequent the monster coin events will be? They're not like daily tasks right?
lean current
"Monster coin events are triggered by activity in the world, such as node advancement, defeating a boss or constructing certain types of buildings within a node." From the wiki (https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Monster_coins)
lean marlin
@low forge atm no, we don;t.
low forge
right so is it like a guarantee after every advancement? how is the chance managed, would hate to have to defend the node all the time from mobs that only give coins and skins
lean marlin
We don't know. That's something we'll know more about probably during A1, or A2.
low forge
shoot, thanks.
crystal beacon
Can we post cute Halloween costumes somewhere?
steady ocean
#general-discussion @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
Hello. I've not been around for a while and would like to know how the game's subscription architecture will work. Would players for instance be able to buy/trade subscription items in similar ways of Eve Online or Runescape? I think it'd be a good addition of sorts if it's not already being considered.
onyx knoll
If you mean use in-game currency to buy sub time, then no, that isn't something they're looking at doing currently
languid ember
WoW tokens kinda messed up WoW’s economy tbh, don’t think they’d wanna go that route
crystal beacon
Thank you. I hope it will be considered in the future as a good friend of mine is interested in the game. Would there be a 'free' - limited use version as such?
desert ivy
No
steady ocean
No, there will be a flat $15 sub fee per month. This gets you access to the entire game and all future DLC/expansions. There is no box cost as well. The Creative Directive - Steven, has already stated there will not be a "token" system as it has pay to win aspects involved with it
crystal beacon
Thank you. His concern is that subscription based games can be considered addicting and I can see his point as it was my struggle with WoW. Of course once people realize they have an addiction problem, they quit so this was the source of my questions as such.
I appreciate getting swift responses and thank you.
fading latch
The game wil remain subscription via real money and not in game
This will not change as of current information
feral badge
So let me get this straight i pay between 75-375 for the game and then a 15 month fee to play the game and all Future dlcs ?
steady ocean
You get subscription time with the pre-order packs. You can read more on the store.
But yes, the sub fee includes all future DLCs/expansions
feral badge
I am just amazed XD that they will not charge you for the dlcs 😮
Then i will buy the most expensive tier XD
steady ocean
Remember to use a friend's referral code and help each other out. 🙂
crystal beacon
@feral badge it will have no upfront box cost
feral badge
nice will do°
mossy scaffold
quick question, i have seen this picture float around some of the armor threads from a while ago, is this one of the legit concept arts?
mossy scaffold
idk but i need it
crystal beacon
To vanquish the undead?
mossy scaffold
perhaps
desert ivy
No, that's not any art from Ashes. That's from Dark Souls 3 or some shit
mossy scaffold
i see, is there any place to see all concept art and such for the game?
mossy scaffold
ty
crystal beacon
No, that's not any art from Ashes. That's from Dark Souls 3 or some shit
@desert ivy it's from total war Warhammer II
Is there going to be a druid class?
mossy scaffold
this is the classes we know for now
steady ocean
@crystal beacon If you are asking if there will be a shape-shifting class at launch, then no. Maybe in future DLC/expansions
feral badge
Are twinks possible or is this a 1 Char only acc?
mossy scaffold
im a bit confused, do we know what this entails?
steady ocean
@feral badge You can have multiple characters on a server. Although staying low level won't help you in AoC as the pvp systems in place favor high levels. (As far as we know)
dark jungle
im a bit confused, do we know what this entails?
@mossy scaffold some items cant be transmogged
is what it means
onyx knoll
You can make alts! If you want to discuss twinks specifically, then there will actually be a dev discussion on the topic on the forum in a few days, feel free to hop in and contribute!
dark jungle
there is no list if thats what you mean
mossy scaffold
i meant more of a rough category
onyx knoll
this quote is pretty much all we know about that
mossy scaffold
i see
dark jungle
but yes, unlikely you will be able to transmog a legendary
sick elbow
The EU guilds are not so active, have sended a couple messages but there don't reply.
maybe wrong timezone xd
mossy scaffold
its currently 23:50 so probably asleep
feral badge
Na i want do do a full tank a full healer and a full dps char
simple karma
have we seen any weapon cosmetics??
desert ivy
There's the cosmetics that could be unlocked in Apoc
simple karma
but none from the kickstarter/summer and pre order packs, right?
desert ivy
Not typically
The crowdfunders got the "Wand of Many things"
but that's it as far as I know
But we haven't actually seen it yet
But they don't do buyable weapon cosmetics in the monthly cosmetics
manic kraken
I think there was a sword cosmetic a while ago
there's currently a staff cosmetic for this months
desert ivy
You don't get the weapons shown in the monthly cosmetic costumes
ruby swift
rose ibex
I’m new to mmos this will be my first, would you recommend joining a guild before launch or testing it out and finding my way
woeful notch
i’m still a bit confused how the mount system will work. take this months spooky horse skin. is there a specific horse mount i would have to get to apply it?
steady ocean
Joining a guild before can be helpful as you can play other games with them and see if they values and personalities match with yours @rose ibex
@woeful notch Mount cosmetic skins are based on tiers. You can apply any tier 1 skin to any tier 1 mount (ground mount). The same for tier 2 mount skins can only be applied to tier 2 mounts (jumping/gliding), and tier 3 mount skins to tier 3 mounts (flying)
vale sierra
Is the mmo in alpha yet?
woeful notch
and will you be able to change skins on a dime? what if i like all the mounts i have but i get a new skin i also want
steady ocean
As far as we have been told, it is a toggle
woeful notch
hmmm okay okay
tawny sonnet
hey, if i already bought a pack and want to buy some other skins from different packs in the future can i use ember to do this or do i have to buy them with real money, because i tried it with this months items and on checkout it gave me only the option to use paypal so ember wont work?
surreal elk
@tawny sonnet Embers wont be useable till launch or if they bring APOC back. Currently you have to use money
tawny sonnet
ok thanks
hot grove
Could there be a chance for something like "hardcore servers" consisting of things like full loot drop upon death and such?
digital yacht
no
full badger
@hot grove All servers will follow the same rules. There are currently no plans to change that
hot grove
Darn. Ok.
fair yew
You might have full loot drop if your corruption is high enough
woven vale
If I remember correctly, in corrupted state you can lose items but isn't full loot
digital yacht
u never know thats what testing is for :/
hot grove
I was just asking cuz i really like killing people and taking thier stuff
High risk high reward is where i thrive
woven vale
Yeah full loot won't be happening, unless dramatic changes take place.
digital yacht
@hot grove sounds like youll have fun killing corrupteds, u will get some loot not all tho
woven vale
The Bounty Hunter system which hunts corrupted players (who can drop loot) may be your best friend @hot grove
hot grove
yeah, either that or imma be pirating caravans constantly and end up with a bounty on my head instead
ruby swift
Caravan pvp does not give corruption, so you won't end up with a bounty.
neon rapids
Is there spam bots in here? After posting a question a couple days back I got two pm's from different users with the same exact message asking if I wanted to "look at a ashes guild community server"
full badger
@neon rapids Could you screenshot those and send them to one of the mods please so we can check it
neon rapids
@full badger sure... Is that you? ;)
full badger
either me or anyone on here with a red name
neon rapids
@full badger pm'd thank you
onyx knoll
Er... Wtf?
woven vale
Detect language says haiwan but only 1 word is translated, I dunno.
full badger
It's written backwards....for some reason
woven vale
Oh yeah
onyx knoll
...australian, much? 🤣
onyx knoll
No EU website as of yet, it's being worked on :)
devout nymph
Do we know if the game will have random instant events for the individual players?
I'm thinking of those random Runescape events that randomly occur during solo play.
full badger
I assume you mean the random monster spawns that occur in Runescape when you are (for example) mining or fishing. As far as I know there won't be anything like that in Ashes. @devout nymph
full badger
Nothing like that, no. The dynamic world will be expressed in other ways, such as roaming herds of creatures, etc.
devout nymph
Ty ty.
whole void
Hey guys. About augments, it's said that each secondary archetype offers 4 different schools of augmentation. So, we have to choose 1 out of the 4 and every augmented skill will follow this 1 school or we are able to choose 1 out of the 4 for each augmented skill or even each skill has their own related school of augmentation?
fickle wigeon
Will mobs attack each other attack each other if one got into the other's territory
desert ivy
@whole void you can choose a different augment school for each ability. There will also be other augments such as racial and religious.
whole void
@desert ivy thats good. thanks
full badger
@fickle wigeon There may be instances of that, such as predators attacking prey in the wild, but we haven't been given any specifics or seen any examples of it happening just yet
timid lion
Hello! im new here, i understand that the Content Creators are getting revamped. Here is my question, what are the general requirements as a streamer to qualify for the program? 1k views, 500 concurent views, 100k subscribers ect?
reef osprey
@timid lion there have been no fixed values determined so far
gotta wait till an announcement of the revamped system
timid lion
@reef osprey Thanks for the reply, i appreciate the answer, another question: Have the developers commented on "when" the system will be revamped?
reef osprey
i don't think we have a specified date yet, but i'm not too knowledgable in that regard
fallow fog
Start of next year, steven mentioned last stream
timid lion
Thank you @fallow fog !
Have they commented on if a small group of friend, say less then 10 people, can they own/share a Freehold together? with respawn points, storage space, mounts ect?
ashen elbow
anyone know when's the november set going to come out?
reef osprey
usually ~ 5 days after the end of the previous month
ashen elbow
I see, thanks man
full badger
@ashen elbow the monthly cosmetics will swap over on November 4th
The date is always listed in the announcement
ashen elbow
thank you
honest solstice
will crafters be able to permanently name the wepons armor gear ect they create ? ie items name cant be changed
ruby swift
Have they commented on if a small group of friend, say less then 10 people, can they own/share a Freehold together? with respawn points, storage space, mounts ect?
@timid lion There is always a sole owner, but that person can give permissions to others like housing in other mmos. But there is no "shared custody"
A crafter's name is embedded in the items they craft.[100]
We believe that every item that exists in the world should in some way reflect its creator. As such, there will be extreme versatility in our crafting system – giving crafters the ability to create unique items that represent their strengths and weaknesses.[101]
!wiki gear
tender hearthBOT
spark lark
Ooooooooooooooooooooooo everyone having a ranged slot is veryyy cool
fickle wigeon
does staff count as ranged as well?
tender hearthBOT
fickle wigeon
how does shields gonna work, is it passive armor or do we have to block incoming attacks manually
languid ember
Currently planned to be passive mitigation, with potentially some bonus mit based on the direction you’re facing. They’re undecided on including active blocks atm.
!wiki shields
tender hearthBOT
timid lion
@ruby swift Hey man, thanks for the reply. But can me and my friends "live" there, as our "guild home" and then use the nearby node village/city as our main source for quests ect? have they told us how respawning/hearthstoning/recalling works yet?
cosmic belfry
@timid lion Hey, once a guild attains a certain level you get a guild freehold certificate so you can place a guild hall on your freehold ( https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_halls ).
@timid lion there is no heartstoning or recalling in Ashes, there are a couple instance of teleportation (scientific metropolis power and family summons but the current details such as CD etc is subject to change with testing, most likely will - https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Fast_travel ). Respawn after death depends on a few factors, more details there https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death
stray hinge
Whats questing going to be like? Is it going to be like WoW or have more story, like something from Runescape?
reef osprey
@stray hinge we don't know much about the questing part yet.
There are different types of quests.
Certainly won't be like WoW, were you have a linear questing path that leads you through the story of the game
most is written here though https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Quests
reef osprey
you are welcome. The Wiki for AoC is really good.
Oftentimes, you can get the information you are looking for. Usually more in-detail and condensed then the player here are able to answer you
stray hinge
Will wearable items be droppable by mosters, or does it have to go through a crafter
full badger
!wiki loot tables
tender hearthBOT
ruby swift
Mobs will drop things that make sense
full badger
Indeed, it's very exciting 🙂
cloud bear
I ve read beta will be short, how short is that, 1 day, 1 week?
steady ocean
We do not currently know
reef osprey
@cloud bear probably 1-3 weeks, but thats mostly speculation
fickle wigeon
What happen If your node declare war against another but at the same time another node declares war against you?
steady ocean
enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of situation I suppose
cosmic belfry
@cloud bear We don't know but the reasoning is that Betas are 'feature complete' testing ground, as in no new features should be implemented, only tweaking existing ones. So generally focusses on the balancing and bugs solving, which takes much less time than Alphas which are system integration and testing of viability).
Now it all depends on how testing of Alpha 1 & 2 goes, so in theory, Beta will be shorter but how long they will be, only time will tell 😉
cloud bear
@cosmic belfry @steady ocean @reef osprey
Thanks for answering😁
crystal beacon
Will there be knuckle dusters?
reef osprey
at least not on release
digital yacht
No fist weapons are planned atm
icy citrus
Hello where can I make a suggest on specific classes due to help balance/improve effectiveness in group play vice just making it very solo applicable ?
icy citrus
Thank you so much!
But there is minimal information that we do have from youtubers on ashes.
On class abilities etc as of now
It would just be an early input before the game is actually out
steady ocean
It's a known issue with xsolla. If you keep having issues with xsolla and you can't complete the purchase on time, just put in a support ticket and let the support team know what is happening. They will be able to help you work through it.
crystal beacon
so whats the latest with this game?
onyx knoll
!wiki release schedule
tender hearthBOT
uneven valley
spellbook weps are a thing right
crystal beacon
hi i have a question for the character attributes points do we have the freedom to add points on our stats character like on strengths intelligence etc
uneven valley
are they an offhand thing (like WoW offhand focus) or a main weapon like FF14
oh okay awesome
crystal beacon
Yeah but like when u lvl up do u get an attribute point
Well thats sucks for my opinion i love this game from what i have seen but that ruins all the fun
onyx knoll
The point is that you can get the most customization from your gear instead of being locked into something by levels
So you'll get minimal stats from levels that will automatically be assigned depending on your bas earchetype, and a lot of possible customisation through gear that you can control depending on what you want to focus on
crystal beacon
Yeah but when u lvl up i think its the best to let the player add the points however he wants it to give the freedom of character maybe im wrong idk but personaly i would love to have that freedom
onyx knoll
You'll have a lot of points as you level that you can spend in skills and augments, so it's not like you don't get any freedom to make your character what you want it to be 🙂
crystal beacon
Well idk cus i didnt had the chance yet to play it but from what i saw on youtube the game is so good and i love it but maybe is that i read to much manga about isekai/game which i love lvl up and add points to strengths intelligence etc to build my character from 0 and to have that freedom im saying maybe im wrong but thats my opinion
And when we reach lvl 50 will there be any other lvl system like ESO
woven vale
Lvling will be hard capped
It won't have a CP system
Levels cap may be expanded with expansions
crystal beacon
idk what u mean by that but do we have another lvl system after lvl 50 or lvl 50 is the max lvl
mossy scaffold
so a quick question, how exactly does the pre purchase packs work? is it simply that you buy a pack+key, and the pack of cosmetic changes each month?
fierce fjord
Along with darkspirits question, does the packs give access to beta or only alpha 2?
woven vale
@crystal beacon No. 50 is max.
@fierce fjord If the store pack gives access to a2, it'll give every lower tier as well
@mossy scaffold You get the key, other benefits, and cosmetics of that month
You can then purchase future cosmetics individually (Within your pack tier)
mossy scaffold
wait, how do you mean? with the last part
fierce fjord
Right on, thanks, @woven vale
woven vale
@mossy scaffold So you see how packs only have some cosmetics in them (unless you get Voyager + which has them all)
Once you get a pack, you can individually buy cosmetics that would be in that pack tier or lower. Without having to rebuy the whole pack
short flint
@mossy scaffold Here is a good explanation of additional pack purchases:
https://www.ashes101.com/store#individual
mossy scaffold
ah ty, ill check it out
thorny hearth
I think It'd be really cool to have sailing mechanics, a bit like in sea of thieves. Are there any plans for this?
like drop sails, and you have to adjust them kinda stuff
lean marlin
There are plans for Naval stuff, what all that entails we don't really know.
thorny hearth
ok
mossy scaffold
just hope they dont use up all good looking cosmetics before the game even launches xd
outer tree
lean marlin
Should be about to switch over soon. Current pack has 3 days left.
check #aoc-discussion
quartz anvil
Wait... someone hasn’t bought a pack yet? Quick flood chat with ref codes!!
onyx knoll
ref codes are for account creation, not pack purchase 😉 plenty of people have accounts but haven't purchased anything, since you need an account to post on the forums
lean burrow
^
quartz anvil
If I created an account without buying a pack I would consider making another account so I code kick down to someone who else
full badger
Not sure what you mean by that tbh @quartz anvil
bronze warren
that he would create a new account and buy the game on that instead of the old one so that he could help a CC by his referal code
thats what i do understand
quartz anvil
^
full badger
shrugs if you wanna do that, you can I guess
quartz anvil
I bought my pack before joining a guild, so I couldn’t pass on the savings s to someone
full badger
!wiki corruption
tender hearthBOT
full badger
@glossy maple this link should help you understand it all better
It gets a little complicated
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_corruption This one actually, sorry.
Yep, kill enough non-combatants and you'll lose so many stats that you won't be able to fight anymore
nocturne coral
can i run this game with a nvidia 1080
dark jungle
!wiki performance
tender hearthBOT
nocturne coral
sweet