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low path
strong drum
Im Australian and im also worried about our server location but seeing as Australia is mentioned in the servers I have faith they won't abandon us. If Aussies are looked after the numbers will come
main raptor
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steady ocean
@main raptor Make sure to let the devs know your frustration on the official forums. You can do a search and see if anyone has created a relevant thread. If so, be sure to add your voice to the thread so the devs can see that there is a justifiable demand for Aus based servers. Make sure to tell your friends to add their voice as well. @strong drum
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/aoc-general-discussion
main raptor
I already have done that @steady ocean
I have no doubt aussie registered accounts are already in excess of 10k given the buzz in aussie groups
strong drum
Guess I'm making an Aussie guild for us
main raptor
The problem is will steven judge whether we get a server based purely on testing population- which means basically telling those aussies that dont want to pre-order that they need to in order to get an oce server
And his 26 july answer kind of hints that this is the case- back to the dicussion channel I go ty
modest widget
I was quite surprised that there would be a server for AU/NZ, never seen that in any other MMO, was it just because a large number of people expressed their interest or...?
azure panther
while telling people they dont need to preorder..
all they need to do is look at the size of wow classics server, Arugal is the 3rd largest classic server and its in sydney
desert ivy
They're not basing it off of the pre-orders, they're basing it off the amount of registered accounts
crystal beacon
is there a official number on how many ahve registered worldwide
i guess it is a very sensitive topic
onyx knoll
I'm sure Intrepid knows it, but I don't think they've shared the numbers
gloomy mantle
too many coming in daily.
dark jungle
@modest widget the third largest server in wow classic is oce
stark swift
if im a non combatant and fight against a attack that was done on me do i stay non combatant?
onyx knoll
no, in order to fight back you need to become combatant
grizzled latch
Unless the attacker is already corrupt
onyx knoll
right, that's correct
if your attacker is red you can fight back and stay non-combatant, thanks for pointing that out Deadnight
grizzled latch
Attacking a corrupted player does not change your status, except bounty hunters have to be combatants to get rewarded
steady ocean
@grizzled latch It's an automatic status against corrupted. They will show as non-combatants to everyone else I believe.
grizzled latch
I dont mean to make a discussion about this but that seems unfair. Can't defend your corrupted friend that way. Do you have a source for this, is it something you think you heard before or is it just an educated guess?
crystal flax
We're actually currently discussing this stuff down in #aoc-discussion
distant charm
Is there a video/wiki for information on freeholds? I see all these cosmetics for freeholds and I’m worried at how obtainable they will be! Thought I heard they were limited?
dark jungle
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds @distant charm
The cosmetics rotate on a monthly basis
distant charm
I know they rotate, but If I buy one I hope I get to use it one day xD
dark jungle
There is no set cap on freeholds in the game. It's only limited by node progression and how expensive the prices get
distant charm
But it looks like everyone gets 1 so I’m good, thanks @dark jungle for the link!
dark jungle
yeah one per account. np
knotty moth
Ok, silly question probably:
How much are cosmetic add ons after the initial package buy in?
crystal flax
$5-$25 depending
knotty moth
Thank you!
steady ocean
@knotty moth
knotty moth
Hey thank you! I appreciate that, that is a great image to work off of!
west copper
Yeah, the only way to make it better would be to specify how many embers you get and how many premium months you get
carmine dove
Okay question, I have an option to buy the braver of worlds pack and wondering if it includes the alpha 1 key plus all keys below it or if it's only alpha 1 i can play?
desert ivy
Braver of worlds get access to all future tests. A1, A2 B1, B2
Any test you buy you'll automatically get access to every lower test as well
Buy A2 you'll get B1 and B2 as well. Buy B1 youll get B2
carmine dove
Awesome! Thank you @desert ivy
limber prawn
That costume looks incredible. It's very Gondorian.
vernal swallow
Recommended GPU requirement for this game?
round belfry
desert ivy
Remember those are just the alpha requirements. Intrepid have stated that they want the game to run decently on hardware that came out 5 years before Ashes release date. So if Ashes releases in 2022, 2017 hardware is OK.
vernal swallow
Oh alright, thanks man
night yacht
Questions for my friends: Can you upgrade a preorder package? If so, how does that work?
grizzled latch
Yes, up to the $375 package by logging into your account and ordering it, at a reduced price for the upgrade by the cost of your old package
There should be 16 man content too
slow meadow
normal group size is 8, raids will have 16 man and 40 man.
night yacht
So, is it possible to buy the $250 pack one month and upgrade to the next months $375 pack?
grizzled latch
Yes
You won't get all the cosmetics though
8 base classes(archetypes) to chose from
night yacht
just the ones added in that price range right?
night yacht
ty ty
slow meadow
so for clarity Intrepid calls the 8 bases Archetypes and by selecting your secondary Archetype you get your Class, just so terminology is clear.
grizzled latch
There is a non 0 probability of that happening i guess
night yacht
they have so far
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon can you pay my bills ty
night yacht
crystal beacon
main raptor
Do we know if husbandry will involve not only cross-breeding different species of animals, but also breeding certain colours and traits of the same species? Or is it not going to be that in depth?
Tagging @simple ether because best hopes of an answer.
rain bear
night yacht
ruby swift
@main raptor You will be able to breed for stats. That has been confirmed for a long time. You will try to breed different mounts for different roles. Like speed and so on.
slow meadow
@main raptor details here but short answer yes you can breed for traits and stats https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry
night yacht
ruby swift
Pass
main raptor
@ruby swift awesome- i knew about breeding for stats across species but if its also within species that will be cool- but what about breeding for colour/aesthetic?
ruby swift
Yep, that was mentioned. All the bells and whistles.
main raptor
Good good ty
ruby swift
Combat pets, mounts, and mules will also have a leveling system to be announced. Will not be "run mount in circle afk for hours"
slow meadow
so there are three artisan paths, within one path you can master multiple, but not all of the professions. The others would be to the point right before you chose to master, though what that means in game we dont have the details for yet. but it will be a meaningful difference.
correct I was just clarifying that you can master multiple professions within one artisan path, but not multiple professions across artisan paths
carmine dove
Question that probably has been asked a 1000x already but, when is alpha 1 access released to play?
carmine dove
Hahaha
sacred bloom
Will some class choices be just flat out bad ie mage tank or are they going to try and make even the strangest combinations viable?
vivid slate
All Secondary Classes Augment your Primary Abilities
If You are a tank primary, then you just add magic flair to your Tank abilities
Iirc
rigid rose
hard to tell until alpha/beta... they are looking to balance for group play and not 1v1 though, will depend on your playstyle. @sacred bloom
vivid slate
I wouldnt put a hard number on it
rigid rose
again yes we do not know and are waiting for more information.
sacred bloom
Ok
rotund flume
How's the mining done? Like Runescape's click on ore, wait for it to respawn, click again, repeat?
surreal elk
@rotund flume No, you find it click the ore, it disappears and it will be located somewhere else in the world, You wont be able to camp Resources like you do in other mmo games, keep in mind everything is subject to change.
also we were given a reference from steven back in the day that a vein of ore once mined, may never show up again in that area and be shifted to another part of the world etc.
grizzled latch
The materials will be located in semi logical places though, so you probably won't see an vein sitting in the middle of a field of grass, so combing mountains will still be a vaild way to search for it. You just won't know that there will be a vein in any particular spot.
tawny flame
Yo guys this game is for Android or only for PC?
main raptor
Pc only
grand tiger
Pc
tawny flame
Ah ok
grand tendon
Didn't they mention once upon a time that there was going to be some sort of extension app made to access certain things outside of game?
main raptor
Lol I doubt it
thorn bison
stuck nacelle
If i buy the intrepid version of the subscription i get access to all servers but if i buy the my.games subscription i am locked to europe, correct?
lean prawn
nope, Intrepid is NA, my.games is for europe my mistake, see answers below.
pastel compass
wat about oce
steady ocean
Servers are not region locked. Signing up on the Intrepid/my.games just means your account is going through them.
You can still play on any server you want, although the server closest to where you live will most likely be the best unless you just want to play with friends some where else.
severe cloud
i recently made a ticket about it. You can buy from anywhere and you still have access to all regions. The only thing that changes if you buy from intrepid is the price if you are outside of the US cause it adds VAT
grizzled latch
There will be region locked prices for those who opt in. Like SA their price will be quite a bit lower but they won't get to play NA servers
Thats to help the customers that live in places like where the US dollar is too strong for a 14.99 monthly price to make sense. If they did not region lock those accounts everyone would try to get that price.
Wow and I think runescape does something similar.
stuck nacelle
Is there a way for the community to help with the game's development besides providing feedback?
steady ocean
Sharing your impressions of the game with friends/family/social media. Supporting financially via cosmetic packs. Creating content for the official forums/Reddit/streaming platforms/etc. You can also ask on #aoc-discussion for more ideas.
stuck nacelle
Thank you :)
wanton cosmos
Jahlon, you need to sleep my guy. You streamed for awhile, and your still answering questions lmak
That's crazy. I have a night job and I still try to get atleast 6 throughout the say
Day
sturdy crater
i was wondering,if you buy 150 dollars worth of subs (10 months of monthly sub) from interpid,but your account is in EU,are they gonna migrate that to your my.com account ? or you'll have to pay all over again for the sub ?
main raptor
@simple ether is there a vod of todays stream?
stuck nacelle
How does one become an AoC content creator?
Also is there any update on the EU site or is it still not worling?
Also, Jahlon, how do you get enough sleep/rest in 3-4h? Please teach me your ways.
grizzled latch
@stuck nacelle do you mean to make official content or just anything?
glad sleet
Atm it’s being reworked and it’s not open. Intrepid will announce when it’s open again @stuck nacelle
stuck nacelle
Thedeadnight i'm curious about both options.
crystal beacon
@sturdy crater stand by on that. Moving accounts with sub time remaining is something they need to discuss.
Anything in your founders packs are good to go. The initial migration stull has to happen
@simple ether can I use a gaming controller with my PC to play AOC
opal field
Are randomly spawned elite monsters going to be a thing and how would their drops/drop pools compare to the normal ones specifically.
glad sleet
@crystal beacon not initially at least - they are considering it
wild marsh
@crystal beacon Not sure why you need him exactly to answer that question, but there is no controller support directly in the game.
crystal beacon
Oh thanks
ruby swift
@crystal beacon Actually controller support is native to UE4 and while it isn't a priority it currently works in basic fashion for movement, basic attack and jumping. It will get more love later. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Template:Controller_support#:~:text=Ashes of Creation Apocalypse may,not designed around controller support.
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon not initially at least - they are considering it
@glad sleet I'm use to the controller type playing so really hope the add it
steep cosmos
So I know that I can master only 1 profession, but can I do other at some level? For example, I want to both catch and breed animals by my own. Can I do it at least at some extend?
ruby swift
And I have used the controller as outlined above in testing phases. A0 and A1
grizzled latch
You can only master 1, but you can do both
ruby swift
More details to come to what extent. But you would be able to master taming for example, and be a not very effective breeder.
steep cosmos
Ok ok I see, thanks
crystal beacon
@crystal beacon I did map my controller for APOC
@simple ether nice so no worry's for me then
ruby swift
Jahlon and the rest of the OGs are up early. Back to gaming for me. Have fun.
grizzled latch
@steep cosmos, fyi you could master taming on one charecter and breeding on another. Probably the best way to go about it.
steep cosmos
@grizzled latch Not sure that I would have time to do that, but maybe I'll get my friend to be a tamer 
Thanks for suggestion anyways!
stuck nacelle
since caravan certs need to be claimed at the point of origin, how would a hostile group or a guild at war with the point of origin claim the resources?
grizzled latch
Guild won't be hostile to a town
Just guild to guild. As for node to node wars, not sure there
midnight iron
Do we know how important will character level be for professions? Let's say I would like to focus on gathering(for example mining) on my main characte. Will I be able to have one low lvl alt for processing and one for crafting? Will most technologies/recipes be only available when a certain level is acquired?
grizzled latch
Professions do grant exp, so while it may or may not be slow any alt you have for pure crafting will still level up
midnight iron
Hm, that does not answer my question 😅
What I meant was, can my level 10 alt with processing, smelt high lvl ores gathered by my lvl 50 gatherer from a "lvl 50 zone"
reef osprey
they mentioned Adventuring classes being completely unreleated from Professions.
So i suspect you won't need to level your adventuring class, no
midnight iron
Sweet! Thank you!
sturdy crater
out of topic question : where can i create a really good forum signature for free?
full scroll
https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/i51038/another_breadcrumb_for_us_eu_people_regarding/
What is this my.com situation? Haven't noticed anything like that, someone care to explain?
reef osprey
@sturdy crater you look for a program or someone to do it for you?
sturdy crater
mainly a programm @reef osprey or a website
reef osprey
@sturdy crater trial version of Adobe InDesign or Adobe Illustrator would be very good for top-tier designs. Go for them when you have a lot of freetime over a couple of weeks, then design yourself multiple ones
or whatever you might need in the future, stream graphics etc.
full scroll
Well, you won't get anything super awesome I think.. Most websites will give you like stock options. One super ez to use editor online is pixlr, find a image of good size, set it to set sizes, slap some text on to it, profit.
reef osprey
pixlr would be a great free alternative
pallid horizon
was there any leaks that I missed this month? and we are supposed to get some blogs about classes this month, right?
ionic arch
are mounts going to have a turning circle? and will they have specific skills like they do in gw2/bdo?
remote osprey
Question regarding corruption. Say a group of 4 friends gank a Non-combatant, two of them kill Non-combatant, become Corrupted and loot him (the other two don't participate), then the other two kill Corrupted ones to avoid losing the items to Bounty Hunters or random people. The Corrupted lose significant part of corruption due to death. Rinse and repeat - Profit. Yes I know previous PK count increases the corruption gained, but that can be countered somehow. And yes there is still a risk of getting killed by BH, but this method can significantly reduces the penalty for random killings. Am I missing something? Is there some kind of system in place to avoid clearing corruption from your main using your alt/ friend?
reef osprey
@remote osprey that's a common concern. Main ways to go against that would be to
- Make the gear get destroyed instead of dropping it for others to loot
- Make the EXP penalty considerable enough, that dying is a bad alternative compared to working it off
remote osprey
Do you know if it was acknowledged by devs?
reef osprey
@remote osprey if its exploited within the alpha, then you can expect it to get adressed
that's what alpha is for
civic terrace
Is there any statement from devs on "karma gain", like if a whole party of corrupted people grind. Is the "karma" shared amongst all 8?
reef osprey
same with other possible unintended exploits of key systems
@civic terrace the reduction of corruption depends on the exp you gain.
If the exp is split, so will be the reduction of the corruption
reef osprey
Ashes doesn't work on a last hit basis at all (except when you kill a player)
next vector
Do we have an estimation of what the game data size will be?
twilit cloud
think of warzone XD
reef osprey
@next vector Alpha 1 is allegedly gonna take 16gb, that's not even 25% of the content within the game though, so i'd suspect 80+ easily
next vector
@reef osprey ok, thanks. let's hope they manage to compress it a bit
fringe stump
some games are over 100 gb+ now so wouldnt be surprised if it happens
crystal beacon
I don't think compressing the game data size should be a focus. If it justifies more content I'd be happy to have the game take up 300gb 😅
fringe stump
lately HDDs arent that expensive so indeed
fringe stump
would be a pain if you get back home and see a 20 gb update with a 300 kb/s lel
yeah you understand me lel
unless you go for a 4 tb SSD, its clearly affordable
reef osprey
@kindred dock no, they plan not having any server swapping in the game
grizzled latch
@reef osprey as of right now last hit is what gives corruption
reef osprey
@grizzled latch he is talking about monsters
grizzled latch
Oh i read it as last person hit not last hit person
oak depot
10TB of NVMe SSD
hybrid hamlet
How does the level of mobs for zones work?
I have the understanding that a new zone is going to be low level mobs. As it builds up, the level of monsters will get higher.
So for instance, if a new player spawns in and there’s nothing but high level towns/cities everywhere, would they not be able to find mobs their own level?
fringe stump
from what ive seen, the map is insanely big, therell be areas for any lvls most likely
full badger
We know that a node's zone of influence increases in size as the node levels up. Now this hasn't been confirmed by the way I see it happening is that as the node levels up, the outer reaches of the zone of influence will contain higher level mobs, but the mobs close to the town will stay the same level as they were. Of course, we'll have to see what they decide to do, but they have said that there will always be a range of level mobs for new players to fight
stoic ridge
@hybrid hamlet you have maybe a high level zone. But in the radius of fe a lvl 5 zones are other nodes. These nodes can’t go over level 3. https://de.ashesofcreation.wiki/File:NodeLockouts.png
Nodes in an area can’t be all at highest level
crystal beacon
I am planning to play this with my older brother, however, he has a disability where using a keyboard and mouse for tab target style videogames is proving to be a hurdle for him. He loves FFXIV a lot since he can play that perfectly with a controller, he even clears the hard raids in that game and plays very well. I know there was mention of a controller support style UI scheme, is that still promised to be implemented? He doesnt expect a full controller game, he still can type on a keyboard, and use a mouse to click on UI overlays, but just a controller to actually move around in the world and utilizing the combat and targetting.
full badger
Right now there is no official controller support planned for Ashes @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
Oh, i could have sworn i read that on the wiki, i might have misread something, sorry
full badger
@crystal beacon
keen cliff
Hey maybe your brother can use something like the keyboard gloves for movement? Hope you find a working solution man.
jade musk
Hey everyone, excited to part of the community but have a quick question about nodes, are any of the 103 nodes set to one of the 4 types, ex. Node 76 is military always rather them being random?
jade musk
Cool, thanks for that
Now I know that the first level we can see the type of people in the camp to find out the node type, but is there any hints as to the node type before you get it to level 1?
dreamy temple
you cant unfortunately.
you find out when the npcs appear. it only takes a couple of hours to level a node to 1, as mentioned on the wiki
grizzled latch
While ashes is not specifically designed with controller support in mind as of the pre alpha a controller works
jade musk
Thanks, been trying figure out everything for this game that is going on, been watching everyone and trying to read up on the wiki.
ruby swift
crystal beacon
@grizzled latch i know its under NDA, but you trying to say, that that build already has controller support?
ruby swift
We can talk about the tests from May 31st and June 1st. I used a controller in those tests for movement, basic attack and jumping.
grizzled latch
I'm saying a controller worked for pre alpha, thats all. It might work in the beta/release but it might not
ruby swift
You can not map anything yet.
grizzled latch
Get a fancy enough controller/program you can map anything though. If you use a program id suggest asking customer support if its authorized first though. Specific exemptions have been made before in other games for disability assistance.
raw gyro
Anyone here take part in AoC:Apoc? I'm curious what it was like to wield the Potion Launcher? Or to fight against someone wielding it?
ruby swift
It was fun. But has been pulled from the mmo due to "physics issues"
desert ivy
Have they actually been pulled? Last I heard they were still just a "maybe they'll be in, maybe they won't"
raw gyro
From what I read on the wiki its still in the 'maybe' realm
Curious. Which would fire off spells at an enemy faster. A Mage or Potion Launcher?
dim shuttle
Potion launcher felt slightly OP, which could be why it’s currently in limbo
raw gyro
Hrm. to not, from the wiki. It does mention that potion launchers could be avilable for ship weaponry. So less handheld person Potion Launcher, more balista sized ship purposed weaponry
to note*
is their any idea for Alpha 2's startup time? Not looking for an exact date. More like summer 2021, fall 2021. A guesstimication
ruby swift
No one knows.
raw gyro
Ah coo, thx
I realize not that may be the 300th time it has been asked in recent weeks, my bad lol
realize now*
woven vale
We have no idea if Potion Launchers will make in the mmorpg or not.
raw gyro
yeh thats the feeling i got from the wiki info. a wait and see. no prob. interesting to see tho. thx
grizzled latch
Wand speed was fast enough to glitch and have infinite range in the pre alpha, so if you consider it a spell its probably faster than a potion launcher lol
raw gyro
....whoa...tho funny and prolly fun to deal with at times, prolly not an intentional feature lol. reminds me of the inifinite ammo glitch in COD:MW2
kind cloud
has there been any counter messure to handing out loot with the monster coins? like pop the coin and just be a target dummy
shut geode
Hey folks how does player housing work in regard to when it is destroyed? Like if i have furniture and stuff stored in the house. and the node gets besieged and destroyed. Does everything you own gets stolen aswell or what?
full badger
shut geode
@full badger Did´nt say anything about items you store in the house? or can´t you do that?
night yacht
Does only 1 person get loot from bosses and what not? Seems like I'd get literally nothing from anything ever if I was a caster :p
storm raptor
raw materials inside the house could be stollen, but complete items wont @shut geode
full badger
@shut geode This is all we know about that so far
shut geode
Yeah read that. But ok. thanks for the info lads
west turtle
anybody knows if you can spend attribute points from your secondary archetype?
crisp holly
@night yacht it depends on what your party leader sets the loot access to be. There are multiple options for how loot is distributed
night yacht
So is there no non-party based content? Like where a bunch of solo player can just see an event nearby and go fight it?
full scroll
Well, there will be like mining nodes that'll spawn where only a set amount of a resource will be present, so people have to compete to get it. There will also be world bosses that spawn, so people might randomly flock to that area to try and kill it?
gleaming bridge
Have they said how many unique raids/dungeons there will be? And if so how many would be "locked" based on the nodes?
Right but I mean will there be 10 active based on nodes and 20 locked because certain nodes aren't big enough
And the number is arbitrary I guess
I wonder what they expect the turn around rate of large nodes to be. Like if a metro is being defended well enough theoretically it could be blocking content for years
True that makes sense
storm raptor
Anyone knows if the leader of men test already begun?
crisp holly
@night yacht event based? Maybe, maybe not. We don't have enough info. But we do know that there will be mobs just out and about that you can kill for XP and loot. If you and a bunch of other solo players are working together to kill something than it will be beneficial for you to group up while you are doing that, even if it is temporary
night yacht
Alrighty. I just don't want to try and fight something if there's no chance of me gaining anything from it. Would rather kill the players :P
violet forge
Anyone know if there are plans for posters, billboards, etc.. within the game that players can utilize for in-game advertising of their goods or services?
dark jungle
you cant steal loot from living players
crystal beacon
I mean from world bosses etc
dark jungle
there is a loot tagging system
crystal beacon
Is there any info on who gets the loot
dark jungle
crystal beacon
Oh so first hitting the mob gets it+
little anvil
Any confirmation on bonuses tied to gathering/processing/crafting as a group? An example being something like two players being able to tame a creature that's otherwise beyond their capacities individually.
Another line of questions related to animal husbandry: Will we be able to raise animals like wolves, raptors, badgers, etc. for combat? If so what would be the upper limit of animal combatants, and would these animals be treated as party members for the purpose of buff effects from something like a bard?
tender edge
So ive been wondering when we can get a general representation of the gods? we only know creation is a phoenix tree and my guild is heavily interested in making a crest based around resna so we can elect the hope pope.
onyx knoll
@tender edge I'm sure we'll get more info on the lore of the pantheon eventually, for now all we have is here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Religions
@little anvil I haven't heard anything about group bonuses for artisan class, I think that could be an interesting idea I suggest you make a post about it on the forums!
As for your second question, yes. animal husbandry will be able to breed combat pets which everyone can use. More info here; https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Combat_pets
I don't think they would be treated as party members like Chocobos in FFXIV, they're more like a way to increase your versatility. You can choose to have a tanky pet as a squishy mage to help tank mobs while solo questing for example. The combat pets take a bit of your own personal power away so it's really just gameplay preference. We don't know yet what the extent of their skills and abilities will be
midnight iron
Will A1 have have some iteration of all the systems planned for a release? If no, what systems will not make it to this testing phase?
reef osprey
@tender edge Intrepid wants to hide the Lore of the game until launch.
We'll probably test the effects of each religion, but lore will stay hidden
tender edge
but hope pope tho
reef osprey
@midnight iron not even close, most of them won't be in
which starts with secondary archetypes, over professions, naval content, etc. etc.
The end of Alpha 2 will be the point when its feature complete
reef osprey
yes, lore will be placeholder
heavy sage
That means released at launch?
heavy sage
;(
patent pier
Im glad
final oxide
heavy sage
Arent most people who buy early acces, not just people who cant wait to play instead of testers ;p
reef osprey
@simple ether do we know whether other system's will also be hidden until release?
deeper mechanics in "exploratory Professions" for example - there isn't much exploration going on when alpha players will set up a spreadsheet for the entire system. It just becomes a chore to look up the combinations in those spreadsheet.
@heavy sage you'll still provide them with testing data
alpha 1 might not be the best place to "just play the game" though
onyx knoll
If you paid for alpha access just to play early.... you're doing it wrong :/
forest pike
Why?
onyx knoll
because that's jus not the point of an alpha
it won't be a fun early playing experience
it'll be filled with bugs and frustration
reef osprey
i can see alpha 2, as the end gets close to features completion
alpha 1 and early alpha 2 though, might be less fun and more chore
patent pier
The fun factor is highly subjective, I do agree with the point that its not the point though.
We should focus on questions though ❤️
forest pike
Don't you have a stream to run? Since when you're moderating discord?
ornate vale
so for Animal Breading, since it will be possible to bread and tame animals from the sea, will it be possible to have a stable/animal breading ground in the water or 1 with water properties? to experiment with salt/fresh water and so on?
tulip oyster
Any confirmation on bonuses tied to gathering/processing/crafting as a group? An example being something like two players being able to tame a creature that's otherwise beyond their capacities individually.
Another line of questions related to animal husbandry: Will we be able to raise animals like wolves, raptors, badgers, etc. for combat? If so what would be the upper limit of animal combatants, and would these animals be treated as party members for the purpose of buff effects from something like a bard?
@little anvil
I think this was a superb question that maybe went unanswered unless I failed at reading? Anyone know?
vocal anvil
@little anvil I haven't heard anything about group bonuses for artisan class, I think that could be an interesting idea I suggest you make a post about it on the forums!
As for your second question, yes. animal husbandry will be able to breed combat pets which everyone can use. More info here; https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Combat_pets
Someone answered with this.
vocal anvil
That's alright, it happens. ^^
steel whale
Can someone share a link to planed alpha / beta and release timeline? I am n my phone and it's hard to search. :-)
raw cedar
has anyone heard of the equilization of pvp? will tanks or healers be able to hold their own atleast be a threat in 1v1 combat?
vocal anvil
@steel whale. The release schedule can be found here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
@simple ether I thought they wanted to make 1v1 a rock, paper, scissor dynamic. Doesn't that include some kind of chance for Clerics & Tanks to work too?
raw cedar
how about the question i asked a while ago. will the action combat skills do more damage than most tab target ones?
exactly what i was thinking
you all got your heads right for pvp. cant wait for the game
errant quiver
I might buy early access just for something new to play, because every patch it's the same shit in FFXIV
raw cedar
yea ive been following this game for 4 years now. me and my friends are just mindlessly playing other mmos waiting on this game.
errant quiver
yea, they said it would be balanced around an 8 man party, not 1 v 1
reef osprey
@raw cedar Crowfall opens up the beta in 2 days.
Not something to play for long, but i think it can bridge a couple of months until AoC releases
vocal anvil
Does anyone know if Cleric is going to be the only class capable of providing enough healing for end-game dungeons/raids, or could a Bard/Cleric combination do wonders too?
reef osprey
@vocal anvil group healing will be reserved to cleric mains
raw cedar
so the different healers will have something they excel at?
reef osprey
you might need an offhealer though were cleric secondaries can help out
vocal anvil
I'm interested in seeing how Bard/Cleric will play out then, as Bard offers some support and healing and I think the Clerics augments will strengthen those.
errant quiver
may not need an offheal if you've got a Cleric/Cleric hard to say what the potency differnces would be.
raw cedar
wonder how the healer cross breeds will work. been looking at soulbow
vocal anvil
Another question passing by... Do anyone think there'll be too many healers/Clerics, if the game is balanced around having 1 of each achetype. I'm having a hard time seeing only 1 in 8 playing a healer. Do anyone has any numbers from other MMO's?
thorny jay
There being only one proper healing archetype, the bigger worry is that there wouldn't be enough healers as we don't know how a lot of the class combos are going to pan out.
onyx knoll
well the game is balanced around a team of 8 needing only 1 Cleric
So... at that ratio i'm not too worried about not havign enough healers :/
vocal anvil
Same, and that's one of the things I loved about playing healers too. 🤣
fading jewel
so was apocalypse abandoned?
tulip hatch
No, it will return after Alpha 1 but was closed to ensure all focus on getting A1 ready
fading jewel
cool, im a braver of worlds backer and have yet to get in the alpha still 😦
tulip hatch
LoM is getting their turn this month
Bravers will follow when Intrepid is ready to take in more testers, but depending on results it may not be all Bravers just a group
fading jewel
bummer
crystal beacon
Does anyone have the map with the grid and all of the quadrants listed?
steady ocean
crystal beacon
You gentleman and scholar
viscid ermine
Do we know how big the map is? like the time to travel from east to west and north to south?
storm raptor
will take hours on foot
wet palm
Any update on when the forum badges are getting handed out? 🙂 just curious
For clarification I mean those promised in Kickstarter 🙂
lyric monolith
I want to see what that south east area is like 
cold dune
How many servers will there be?
spiral pine
atleast 1
wet palm
Heard Alpha 1 is soonish right?
spiral pine
end of the year
wet palm
hell yea
cold dune
All I need is a estimated time for alpha 2 and I’ll start getting my PC together
unreal zealot
mid or late 2021 for alpha 2 is the communitys guess
cold dune
Yea that’s what I was thinking this year has been all alpha 1
unreal zealot
full alpha one isnt until end of fall
cold dune
pseudo nest
Is there going to be a full death spec cleric?
unreal zealot
what i mean by full alpha one is the no nda and everyone who bought into it should be able to access it unless they do it in waves for the final purchasers
pseudo nest
i see
pliant ocean
You will probably still have some heals, but others might be converted to dealing damage instead of healing.
brittle ferry
@wet palm if you're not seeing your badges on the forums, submit a support ticket.
Expect up to 3-5 days turnaround right now due to a high volume of tickets for the LoM guys n gals
turbid shell
Just because someone decides to go healing does not automatically mean they will be good. You may have an abundance of Healers, but maybe 4 out of 10 are worth their weight.
potent thunderBOT
wet palm
@brittle ferry Oh I see some badges I just don't see the specific kickstarter badges, but I just thought they weren't made yet or something - but have they been rolled out then? ^^
brittle ferry
I can only go off what I know and that's what I have.
Founder; Kickstarter as examples if you don't have those and you are a Kickstarter backer then you'll want to submit a support ticket
hollow dust
Does the alpha2 is 1 NA server only ?
brittle ferry
I believe there will be a test server in Germany? I need to look it up to be sure though
Was about to @ you Jahlon cause I was sure that was said in your interview. Thank you
hollow dust
So we can play alpha2 in EU when we can buy from my.games then right ?
woven sand
if i get a pre order pack and then the theme changes and i like a future theme better is there a way to get the new theme without completely re-purchasing?
woven sand
where is that in the store?
wanton cosmos
You gotta get a pack first, then you'll see the separate items
glad sleet
Those specific items? They are not sold anymore
wanton cosmos
But I'd wait tbh. This pack is pretty bad, other than the mount
unreal zealot
dont forget the phrog pet
hollow dust
Where do i buy a EU pre order ?
sturdy crater
As far as i know,one of the CMs said that you can buy from interpid and then your items can get transfered to your my.com account,still cant remember the msg tho
hollow dust
i heard that to, but i didnt find any confirmation for the tranfert for the alpha2
unborn olive
I see options for reserving names. Do we even know the length limit and structure (first name + family name)?
brittle ferry
unborn olive
Do we know the length of guild names? Ability to use spaces, numbers, or special characters?
brittle ferry
I don't believe we've been given any specific information @unborn olive
crystal beacon
If i buy a pack the time is for when the game is released ?
brittle ferry
Yes, as it's a subscription based game
sturdy crater
@hollow dust ill try to find the msg
brittle ferry
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Account_management
Read that page on accounts and transfer information that we have
hollow dust
At worst, i guess i can play alpha in NA from EU
unborn olive
I trust the company to make good decisions on how they will work the length and special characters. Too long can be bad and so can too short. Weird characters and numbers can be distracting and immersion breaking.
I just need to know what they decide, so I can reserve my names properly.
If the company hasn't decided these, name reservations are premature. There will be hell to pay if the exact name they paid to reserve isn't provided.
desert ivy
We know that 3 letters is the minimum
unborn olive
I'm not talking about legal backlash. I'm talking about the pain in the ass they will to deal with to reconcile similar names and names that aren't compatible. Those labor hours would be best invested in other things. If they get the cart ahead of the horse here, it's self-inflicted
desert ivy
They're not gonna open name reservations until they know what naming conventions they want in the game .
unborn olive
What good is a name reservation if you can't reserve anything until right before launch?
swift void
I am wondering if there will be abilities to have rogue hideouts in major cities or like ways to have cultists groups hiding in the city that are player based. I watch a lot of anime so ive always hoped for the freedom this game is offering and I'd love to be able to snuff out player based cutest groups in major cities or visit a black market situation. I can only reference something like log horizon.
unborn olive
I'm confused. Can I pick a name today if I preorder the right package?
onyx knoll
What good is a name reservation 2 year in advance? as long as it's before the actual launch day when everyone else can make characters then it's a valid name reservation...
desert ivy
No
onyx knoll
@swift void There is a thief's guild, but we doN,t have a lot of detail on it
desert ivy
And when the time to reserve names does come, it will go in order of the packs that people bought. So kickstarter backers first > summer backers > intrepid pack backers > voyager plus backers
unborn olive
Do we know whether the name reservation will be tied to character creation? In BDO, you had to make your character before you could select a name. It was a debacle for their NA release.
It would be ideal if we could get the character creator early, then just apply a premade template, type in the name, and boom
onyx knoll
THey do plan to release a character creator early so that you can just log in instantly on the day of launch
dense shore
Yeah I read they were templating it in an online tool, and you can export/import it at launch
sterile shoal
Lmaoooo
fringe stump
the game will support SHD resolution ? planning to buy the samsung G9 when its out and works well so
unreal zealot
off topic but it took me about 10 seconds to realize you was talking about a monitor and not a phone xD
crystal beacon
abstract vine
Will there be any other giveaways / chances to get into alpha 1 this fall or is the best / only option now buying into alpha 2?
desert ivy
They may open up A1 sales again once all current A1 members have gotten in and everything is nice and stable, but that's only a maybe.
There was never any giveaways for A1 except if you're a streamer with thousands upon thousands of viewers
unborn olive
@dense shore that's perfect
abstract vine
Makes sense I guess. I'll wait and see.
unreal zealot
the main reason i see alpha 1 sales is where a bunch of people stop playing because they experienced everything in alpha 1 and have no interest in giveing feed back and see it as a quick game to play for a couple of months as there are always people like that in alphas and betas. as a result intrepid will see numbers declining and will probably need more testers, tho i honestly belive that to be more of a beta issue than a alpha one due to the nature of the price of alpha originally.
desert ivy
I mean, the betas will most likely be relatively complete. Last we heard about it, the betas will come and go fairly quickly compared to the alphas which are expected to stay for a long time in comparison. Most of the betas will most likely be clearing up minor bugs and optimizing shit imo.
unreal zealot
tru
agile quartz
[Question] In regards to Guilds, will you be able to view a guild's allies and enemies on the Guild screen UI somewhere or will they be hidden, and that you can only see your guild's allies and enemies?
steady ocean
Most likely will be private to that guild.
unreal zealot
as far as im aware not sure on guild features to that extent but i assume and hope that they dont allow you to see each others allies because that just makes the information gathering and polotics of players that much more interesting
ebon arch
I believe that a guild hall could have a charter on the wall
not sure if they are public though
untold maple
how high can mount movement speed increases get?
steady ocean
I don’t believe they have released that info
twin garden
[Question] Is it possible to start a node that is far away from the divine gates in the beginning or does it need a "connection" to the divine gate for settlers to move in?
steady ocean
Any node can be progressed
unreal zealot
yes if you want to
twin garden
cool, ty
wicked whale
Do we know if shoes/boots in the game will provide running speed?
junior pagoda
do we know how much of the world the are hoping to have avaible for Alpha 2? Alpha 1 is 1/4 right?
glad sleet
Alpha 1 is 96km^2
desert ivy
Don't think we have an official number, but in my opinion by the end of A2 we'll most likely have most if not all of the world.
junior pagoda
cool, that is my hope as well.
potent glade
Are cosmetics in the shop only for specific races?
desert ivy
No, you can use them with any races
wary steppe
Is there going to be physical merch for sale? Just saw the map of Verra, would totally buy a physical map for my wall...
unreal zealot
maybe closer to launch or after
desert ivy
Don't know about a map, but they used to offer merch on their store like shirts and jumpers, but they took them down a while back and said they'd re-add merch later on.
wary steppe
Thanks
steady ocean
You can recreate it yourself as long as you don’t try to sell it as your own if that is something that interests you
crystal beacon
will we be able to dye skins?
onyx knoll
yes, but there will be some restrictions. For example if you have a "White lion heavy armor" set, that had the fur of a white lion as part of it's visual then you might not be able to dye the fur color
vale locust
Will there be a roleplay UI? maybe similar to that of the TRP3 Addon in WoW.
tidal trout
steven has expressed disinterest in addons
steady ocean
I do not believe so @vale locust
onyx knoll
The only thing I can think of that has been mentioned so far is the backstory thing on your character page; https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Character_page
@vale locust
steady ocean
Maybe some references to emoji packs, but that may have been a kickstarter perk
onyx knoll
I recommend you keep an eye on it, that would probably be something that would be added closer to launch if they have time so I'd try to put up some forum posts about your ideas on what it could look like
vale locust
Alright, the backstory bit does seem promising.
fading saffron
I know they've addressed an anti-addon stance. But have they mentioned their opinion on 3rd party wikis similar to wowhead that detail everything(including quests)
desert ivy
There's already a community run wiki
fading saffron
Idk if they could do anything about it if they did care, but
desert ivy
So I doubt they mind them much
fading saffron
Good point - I'm kinda hopeful they'll try to herd conversations/questions to the main forums.
prisma finch
imagine a raidbots style website calculator for your class/skill combo that outputs your max dps. dont really need addons for things to be taken to that level.
whether people would be held to a standard would depend on the community
grizzled latch
You can make something that calculates your max dps but player skill will still be required
prisma finch
the game is confirmed to not have animation cancels or anything really indepth mechanically, aslong as you can get your skill order right I think 95% of people would be fine.
steady ocean
There are so many different variables I doubt it is that simple, but this may be a better place to talk about in #aoc-discussion
prisma finch
it was just a piggyback off the addon questions, and the ability for out of game work arounds people often use for other games.
steady ocean
No worries! It was actually an interesting topic which is why I suggested it
tender edge
Hey my friend @steep patio is having issues applying for a job at the site. Is there anyone he can talk to privately about applying?
hazy furnace
Is there an approx date for Alpha 2? I cant seem to find a date, just what i heard from Julys update about Beta
hazy furnace
O,, thank you. I was worried I missed something
stoic charm
Yeha we dont actually have a date for A1 yet 🙂
hazy furnace
And Alpha 1 has an NDA, correct?
steady ocean
Not the official A1 set for this fall
hazy furnace
Ah, ok. I misunderstood. Apologies.
onyx knoll
no worries, it gets a bit confusing ^^
hazy furnace
It is, trying to read the wiki and website for info.
distant charm
Was the otter mount ever put up for sale? Just seen it on a tweet xD
gleaming bridge
yeah it was one of the promotional month sets
ripe axle
Anybody know if you're gonna have automatic combat, or macros?
onyx knoll
Last I heard they didn't want to give the macro option
wary steppe
Combat is going to be a hybrid system of click targeting and active strikes
The highest you can build your bar in either will be about 70ish % according to a few of the QnA streams I’ve seen.
Thank you, couldn’t remember the percentage, been a few days since that particular rabbit hole
ripe axle
ok thanks just play New Word is go to be like?
unreal zealot
sorry?
ripe axle
New Word is action! if you're going to have a similar gameplay?
steady ocean
@ripe axle You can look through this vid from the devs and get an idea of the combat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwaYLOuw2s
onyx knoll
I can't say how similar the combat would be to New World's considering they've been under heavy NDAs since forever, I've been personally recommending people try out GW2, it feels like the combat might feel a bit similar
wary steppe
Last question for a while (I have a million, but they’re mostly tied to things not announced yet)...
Skill points. Is there going to be a reallocation system in place for those that want to experiment with their build, or is it going to be a “one and done” experience where your choices for points are permanent?
slow meadow
you'll be able to adjust your skill points
wary steppe
👍
abstract mountain
Hi, have a quick question will all the servers be located in NA and if so wont EU players have a worse experience due to lag? Thx
slow meadow
no there will be NA, EU and OCE/SEA servers at least
abstract mountain
Thx 😄
white bluff
Frankfurt
vapid wave
im having trouble figuring out how to use Embers from the preorder pack to buy the new cash shop cosmetics. Or is that not what theyre for?
vapid wave
ah ok thanks
warm elbow
Is there any source for if they will let people outside kickstarter enter alpha 1?
onyx knoll
There were people outside of kickstarter that got access to alpha 1 from buying older packs that are no longer available
these packs had alpha 1 access, they got removed from the shop in august 2018
As for entering in it now, that's really not confirmed, there was just a mention of MAYBE in passing
if they do re-open it it'll probably be a 500$ pack again
steady ocean
@warm elbow they tweeted last night that if the servers can handle the original 10k then they would consider opening access so you can check their twitter + the wiki for more quotes if needed
@vapid wave Embers are used in the in-game cosmetic shop, which will most likely replace the website store (except for buying embers) after launch
onyx knoll
oh yeah, they did! that'll teach me for not using twitter 🤣 @warm elbow
warm elbow
@onyx knoll @steady ocean thanks!
indigo steeple
i really hope server can handle 10k+
onyx knoll
that's why we test things 🙂
crystal beacon
I dont know if my questions make any sense. But, I wonder what happens if a Guild takes over all the nodes (Is it even possible?). And can its lore be player driven In the sense that certain players become characters within the game lore?
steady ocean
1 guild can only have a max of 300 characters, so no 1 guild cannot control all the nodes. The server pop would have to basically be dead, and at that point would most likely be combined with another server.
sharp wing
.0001% chance of that happening imo
small pecan
I don’t think characters officially become part of the lore, but individuals can certainly become a big part of the server’s culture and history
Steven’s mentioned that servers will save a “history”, but it’s not really lore, per se!
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Servers#Server_history
slow meadow
@crystal beacon running a node is not trivial especially as they grow to metropolis size and there are 103 nodes on the map so controlling and running everything even by an alliance (4 guilds) would be impossible. As for the lore part of your question, that wont happen, at least from everything that has been said so far relative to lore/story.
crystal beacon
Thnks Everyone!
vivid slate
Can someone explain to me whats would happen if a bunch of new characters decided to get together and troll higher level players, What would be the consequences of that
steady ocean
In what form of trolling?
vivid slate
like, Lets say that a group of people wanted to make a bunch of new characters to harass and "gank" higher level players
What in the PvP system would help prevent this
steady ocean
The fact that you wouldn't be able to kill them with 1 skill and no stats/weapons/gear
vivid slate
Ok, I was just asking because It was a concern that one of my friends brought up from his time in EVE and he was hesitant due to that
Thank you
sharp wing
I just want to point out that pvp in eve is VERY skill intensive and I doubt AoC will come to that level a lot of people wouldn't enjoy it.
vivid slate
It was the main thing that he was concerned about. I sent him a relevant snip of this converwsation and it seems to have helped
steady ocean
It will require both
cold helm
That seems reasonable
sharp wing
Exactly lol
Where as in Eve I can make a account get 1m SP and destroy a person with 100m SP. Assuming a few other variables.
cold helm
Is AoC Apocalypse ever coming back? I missed out on trying it as I first heard about AoC way back but forgot about it OTL
steady ocean
We've been told it will probably come back some time after A-1 release to test out certain mechanics/systems
sharp wing
cold helm
That would be cool, honestly the concept of playing the pre-history sounded really cool
lost sentinel
@simple ether Where do you get that? From what I've heard it's 50% gear / 50% skillpoints, not skill.
steady ocean
Steven has specifically said skill. Perhaps you misheard? @lost sentinel
lost sentinel
He specifically said skill then corrected himself to skillpoints.
Listen to the whole answer.
desert ivy
Doubt it, that'd mean skill would play 0% in fights
steady ocean
The example that was given was that a person fully decked out in legendary gear but has little to no pvp skill could still lose to someone with lesser gear but has mastered their class in pvp
lost sentinel
Oh, I don't remember that part so we are talking about different interviews I think.
steady ocean
Most of the questions I’m finding are fairly reoccurring so probably
lost sentinel
I'm talking about the asmon interview.
He says skill, then goes on to clarify skillpoints.
grizzled latch
25% skill points, 25% gear, 50% skill
lost sentinel
There is a huge difference between skill and the characters skills. That's the sticking point I think Jahlon. It wasn't clear from the asmon interview which he was referring to, it seemed to be character skills.
tulip hatch
Yes we're not referring to the asmon interview when stating skill matters, was a quote from a different livestream.. would have to find it but not the easiest to do on mobile
lost sentinel
What TavernSideGaming said is comforting though.
fringe summit
I could probably just google this but do you guys know around what time the beta will be around
barren badger
Can I make an extra small young dwarf?
sharp wing
@fringe summit No. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule Has all the update to info
fringe summit
Alright thank you
barren badger
I dont know whats an elin is
Just thought if i can make an extra small dwarf than my hit Box will be super small for pvp
winter field
why add the young part lol
barren badger
Young=small
barren badger
Tough life
grand tendon
Speaking of hitboxes, will attacking certain areas do more dmg and/or debuff or maim the enemy?
My man, ty
elder fable
so when is the game comiing out?
steady ocean
When the devs are ready. We don't even have a date for Alpha 1 @elder fable
tidal hatch
I heard alpha 1 is this month, is that true?
steady ocean
It's more of a pre-alpha release for certain backers
tidal hatch
ty so no new info for the wiki
dark jungle
steven did drop a new thing today
mystic notch
What did he drop
winter field
?
dark jungle
steady ocean
😮
mystic notch
😦
steady ocean
Is that under the assumption that Alpha-1 will release after?
dark jungle
that is not clear tbh
tulip saddle
Does anyone know if they plan to add Guild halls for guilds to meet up post raids and such? (I haven't seen a good game do this in along time. We have always loved that feature.)
@blazing orchid ?
steady ocean
@tulip saddle https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_halls
left fjord
If I choose to be a mage class, as I level up am I able to spec out into different abilities like frost mage/ fire mage? Or are my abilities tied to which class and secondary class I choose? Or is it a mix where I’d be able to be a frost mage + fighter class?
tidal hatch
ty Lahlon
steady ocean
@tulip saddle You can get into Alpha 2 by purchasing the voyager plus pre-order pack. It may still be quite some time before that is released though to where we can play, possibly early next year.
desert ivy
Also could possibly be late next year, we dont know
main raptor
@simple ether Why are the Vek an inferior race with a poor supreme leader?
thin ember
@idle siren with how much there is to the world of the game, nodes, professions, etc., whats your idea of what to do with the ui menus? some games feel overwhelming amounts of ui to navigate through (like bdo) and really put people off from even playing.
main raptor
Thats not my face Jahlon, thats Henry Cavil
distant charm
Has any word come up about player built airships? I know thought the node system you can upgrade them for possible fast travel, but I’m wondering in the sense of how you can build ships to sail the ocean
main raptor
@idle siren can you clarify that blacksmiths will be making staves, bows, and books?
errant chasm
Ive seen nothing about air ships at all
steady ocean
@distant charm No player made/bred flying mounts outside of the legendary eggs, and I would assume that would include any type of airship. There is a ship building profession to build ships for sailing. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ship_building
distant charm
Yeah I know about that part just wondering about air, thanks
@errant chasm it was stated they would appear if you get a scientific metro up high enough to unlock fast travel
main raptor
Let us pray that family summoning is deleted before live
distant charm
Yeah but if their in game I hope we build them xD
desert ivy
Yea I doubt family summoning will make it through the alphas and betas
And if they do they'll be haevily nerfed compared to what we know of them atm
main raptor
Mm too exploitable
echo cobalt
Hello ppl, I am new here and I have a question. Do we know if every character will be good/excellent for pve/raids? or specific classes. I currently play L2 and I really enjoy playing as a Titan which is a pve/raid baus
steady ocean
Each Archetype will most likely be able to find a niche to fill. We won't really a get a better idea more than that until after Alpha1/2
tidal hatch
isn't all combat set up for an 8 v 8 based off of 1 player being each class?
echo cobalt
I would like to stay away from mages if possible... specially because I have no fingers for that 😦
steady ocean
@tidal hatch Gameplay being balanced around groups of 8 allows for there to be 1 of each primary archetype in a group, not that it is necessary.
leaden osprey
Anyone know if raids will be scaled to need 5 tanks? Like in wow you have a problem with your mini groups for mythics and have to have offspec tanks cuz you only need 2 for raids
errant chasm
@distant charm oh in the interview with i think tim he called them flight paths didnt hear him call them airships tho
steady ocean
We only know you can have groups up to 40, and those large scale raids will most likely need multiple (5 groups of 8 players). @leaden osprey
errant chasm
Assume itll be more like point a to point b not really something we control
leaden osprey
Right but if you only need 2 tanks for a 40 man raid it works out weird
For times you do other content
steady ocean
We don't have any information on raid difficulty/mechanics, so it's hard to really speculate more than that @leaden osprey
azure panther
not hard to imagine needing anywhere between 2-5 Tanks for raid content. Tanks for main boss, couple extras for adds.
errant chasm
Tbh im assuming raids are going to be easy if he said he dosnt want people left out if they're not as good as their friends
azure panther
higher end PvE is really my only concern
pallid forum
Raids should be hard, not cater to casuals
errant chasm
Well they did say the faster its cleared the harder it is or something so we have to see how that scaling works but it does seem casual friendly
pallid forum
Lets go to #aoc-discussion for this @errant chasm
azure panther
steven has thrown out no participation awards which is reassuring but instanced content is limited in favor of world bosses which are pretty much always zerg fiesta's
tidal hatch
That being said the better your group does, the better the gear 😄 (or so I have been told)
steady ocean
This is a pretty good topic, but it may be better continued over in #aoc-discussion 😉
wheat tulip
Whats the current recommended computer specs for playing the game? 🤔
Except for potato obviously
torpid tangle
wheat tulip
Thanks my man, appreciated
empty wharf
2020 release?
distant charm
Released from NDA that's for sure
agile glacier
Does anyone know when does the Alpha 1 test will start ?
stable plover
@agile glacier A1 will start In "Fall" Near the end of the year, Fall runs from Sep 22nd to Dec 21st, there's a pre-alpha test sometime in August that's under NDA
forest pike
The braver of worlds?
steady ocean
Leader of Men
ruby swift
civic terrace
@ruby swift i pretty sure I read that August test is not NDA? 
But I mean if Steven says that, then that is what it is
sly monolith
i got the package king of men... can i play alpha?
civic terrace
you mean leader of men?
ruby swift
@civic terrace The NDA is in full effect currently. Steven picks and chooses what parts to relax like removing the restrictions on the May 31st/June 1st testing so those in it can talk about it. That was not a removal off all testing NDA.
eager fable
so how do i know how match is a subscripsen
silk grove
the official price per month is 14,99 US Dollars @eager fable - some regions have prices that might be a bit lower
eager fable
@silk grove ty soo mutch
silk grove
worthy hatch
Hi im a pvp only guy in like every MMO and im just wondering how they will make people put on the PvPflag.. im a bit afraid there wont be much targets in open pvp if u dont implement like some "bonuses" putting on the PvPflag... do they plan something like that? ty for answering 🙂
arctic sky
I have no idea for they officially have people flagging but do remember you have caravans that will me walking pvp zones so either way it will have to be something intuitive
silk grove
there are many reasons why players will flag themselves: Sieges, Caravans, Guild Wars, Resources.. maybe spots in Dungeons to farm Items.
crystal beacon
dw I'm sure tons of players will flag themselves for the sake of opportunity, I live for pvp
viral coral
Greetings, I hail from Latin America, South of Chile to be especific and I would like to speak as a member of the Latin American MMO community. Id like to preface this saying that I love the vision of the game and I have been following this since the Kickstarter.
One of the common issues here in Latin America in general, is similar to the Aussie issue. WE NEVER GET ANY SERVERS IN ANY MMO. Two things always happen:
We dont get any servers located in South America, and instead we play on the northamerican ones with an average ping of 300ms for someone with a decent internet connection.
We get one server in South America, located in Brazil. When this happens, a population of Spanish speakers gets bunched up with Portuguese speakers, in a server where we still are getting 250ms because Brazil is so far away from the rest of South America.
I love how the game is coming along but Im afraid players from Chile, Argentina, Peru, Bolivia, Venezuela and many many others will be alienated once again from the general population by making them play in unwelcoming servers with way way more ping than the other players, and with Lineage II being one of the more impactful games we have had here, it would be a shame that the demographic that once was so devoted that Lineage II doesnt find the heir apparent that is Ashes.
worthy hatch
@silk grove in this guildwars and stuff u will be flagged jeah.. im only talking about open pvp. why would u flag? ^^
silk grove
Caravans, Resources and Dungeonloot 😛
worthy hatch
u will be autoflagged in caravans as far as i know 🙂 and jeah resources and dungeon but i dont think u will find many flagged people in the open world.. but lets see
silk grove
i think itll be the other way around and you wont find many people that are not flagged
worthy hatch
i play pvp only in mmos for like 15y now ^^ and sadly most people are "playing save" but seems like i have a different experience there...
worthy hatch
np im out 🙂 didnt get an answer tho ^^ have a good day u two. see u on the battlefield
silk grove
well.. i think it heavily depends on the rewards and the game in general. Most mmos are leaning pve with pvp elements. And i think AoC is a bit different - but no one really knows till release :>
stone walrus
@silk grove in this guildwars and stuff u will be flagged jeah.. im only talking about open pvp. why would u flag? ^^
@worthy hatch so you lose 50% less XP and loot when you die
at least for flagging back
you flag automatically if you attack non-corupted target
and you want to attack such target to loot them
reef dagger
@worthy hatch there’s not a bonus to flag like bonus exp gains etc. however people are incentivized to fight back.. if you attack someone for whatever reason you see fit and kill them yes you will get negative corruption however the loot you receive and whether you get corrupted at all is dependent on whether they fight back... if they don’t fight back they will drop more resources for you to obtain and you will be corrupted.. if they do fight back they drop less resources and receive less penalty and you don’t get corrupted so it’s a fair balance in my opinion as a pvper
worthy hatch
This sounds like a good solution. Thx u2 thats the answer i was hoping for 
reef dagger
And it’s not NW where someone has to be flagged to be attacked, you can attack anyone at any moment by flagging
stone walrus
good old Lineage2 system
patent beacon
Alpha 1 is supposedly set to launch this month still? No nda for it
bold tusk
so the answer would be no.... as alpha 1 for backers would be no nda
patent beacon
Might be wrong but thats what i saw last
arctic sky
Fall is a whole season
bold tusk
its august, its fall. which is why i asked if it kicked off yet. clearly. the answer is no
trim saddle
august is summer , fall is end of september to december
errant quiver
June, July, August = Summer. Sept, Oct, Nov = Fall. Dec, Jan, Feb = Winter. March, Apr, May = Spring. So when he says NDA runs through the end of Fall, you know he's talking about the end of November.
wild marsh
Monday, December 21 is the end of fall.
Is that question for the release of alpha 1? Or just in general? If not the seasons change in game weekly. So you will have all four seasons a month
full mural
Ok so u are using the meteorological date of fall to say its Dec 21
glad sleet
June, July, August = Summer. Sept, Oct, Nov = Fall. Dec, Jan, Feb = Winter. March, Apr, May = Spring. So when he says NDA runs through the end of Fall, you know he's talking about the end of November.
@errant quiver yeah like xyph said it’s 21st dec cause America uses weird system
ruby swift
I am saying that Steven is going to use whatever date works for him. If he needs extra time, it will take extra time.
worthy scarab
Alpha 1 will it be under NDA though right? And Alpha 1 is in the Fall right?
wild marsh
Negative, Alpha 1 will be Non NDA
The current Pre Alpha 1 going on right now is under NDA though.
proper night
maybe alpha 1 will start at the end of fall? who knows im sure we will get more details at time goes on
errant quiver
@glad sleet it's an American game, why would anyone assume the seasons would be different than I said above, referring to the NDA going down at the end of November?
bold tusk
I mean, if you wanna nit pick, Jan 24th started the new year TECHNICALLY based on moon cycles instead of the crap American calendar. new moon for the first time this year being on the 24th. picking when each season starts ends is arbitrary at best. are we basing it off only moon cycles? which season is chosen to start the cycle? or do we go by weather? because in general, august starts fall from what ive always known.... funny how the fall autumnal equinox is chosen on a day that has nothing to do with the moon or star cycles at all. American wise says the 22nd of September, but that doesn't match moon cycles at all. in fact, the new moon is on September 17th, which would be the true day if we went with that ideal of September, not the 22nd.... from what i understand, aug/sept/oct are fall, nov/dec/jan are winter, feb/march/april are spring, and may/june/july are summer.... and it fits both moon cycles and temperature averages.
glad sleet
Because fall ends 21st dec
errant quiver
Which is also after November, so yea.
lime kayak
not sure if the flagging for PvP came to conclusion, so I will add my bit:
You only need to flag yourself if you want to attack people for no reason (stealing mobs, resources, griefing)
For any meaningful PvP you dont have to flag yourself, if you signup as attacker/defender of caravan or a siege, you are automatically flagged for the event and its participants, but not for open world griefing PvP
coral raven
So, I constantly see people comparing the combat in ashes to the combat in WoW, comments like "they have to nail the responsiveness and the combat is perfect" but was WoW always perfect? Or did it go through some growing pains like every other game, started out good and got great instead of just being "perfect" just seems like an unreasonable expectation to want a new IP to be better than a fully established game with decades of time to "get it right" my question is basically is this realistic or people using rose tinted glasses?
unreal zealot
i mean even in wow vanilla it was still really well recieved combat for the time and obvs as time went on they fine tuned it and added better animations etc etc so i think to awnser your question a bit of both
mint tree
Yeah, WoW vanilla's combat was pretty great from the get-go. I get what you're saying, but considering this game is going to be released at least 18 years after WoW, I don't think people expecting great or even perfect combat "feel" is completely unreasonable
coral raven
Alright I wasn't sure, I appreciate the input. Its difficult to guage something I didn't experience.
rough meadow
Question: Can i build my freehold near water? Like if i want to fish or build a small port?
I know harbors and those big ships can only be constructed in cities or town etc, but what i am saying, a smaller little dingy port is fine xD
real sleet
You can place your freehold anywhere in the ZOI of the node you buy the certificate from.
simple tusk
are there any information how the entire respawn/revive system will work ?
rough meadow
When you say anywhere, even a beach side view? xD Not like slot tile like right?
real sleet
Depends. You cant interfere with dungeons, POIs (which could potentially include the beach aka "blue lagoon") or some terrain features which are not specified.
I would imagine though that the beach front properties will be the first to sell out to the first to make enough gold to buy a freehold. Im not certain if you need citizenship to buy the land itself or just to build a house there though.
hazy furnace
I may have missed it in all the text and pop, but is there going to be full time pvp server and a reg server that only does pvp for the stated events?
grizzled latch
Land and house are separate i think, there are diffrent "houses"/buildings you can have on your freehold
No all are PvX
some might be more heavily pvp due to players choice, but no rules like that will be enforced
hazy furnace
Thank you
ruby swift
@real sleet You have to own property to gain citizenship. So anyone can pay the fee to get the permission to place a freehold. Once they place within the zoi of that node, then they can become citizens.
@simple tusk There are multiple respawn points in a node. On death you can be revived by someone (cleric with that ability) or choose to respawn at nearest. If you die as corrupted you respawn at a point in the node.
@hazy furnace All servers use the same ruleset. There are no pvp or pve or rp servers.
split grail
Am sure your familiar with the Olympiad system/Per class Hero system in L2. Will there be anything similar in Ashes of Creation ?👀
ruby swift
Intrepid has borrowed heavily from several games. Lineage 2 was one Steven played. Could be?
wanton cosmos
Man, I wish I could go back to 2004
simple tusk
@simple tusk There are multiple respawn points in a node. On death you can be revived by someone (cleric with that ability) or choose to respawn at nearest. If you die as corrupted you respawn at a point in the node.
@ruby swift well thats pretty obvious i was more interested how the entire system will work in detail like can u rezz in combat or only out of combat, can only cleric rezz, do u get time penalties if u die a multiple times in a certain amount of time how will dying affect the durability of equip and/or stats of the character ? such stuff i meant
faint wasp
I've watched the recent AMA and read around a bit, but not seen much info on how much secondary class matter, so
Question: What information is there on how much secondary class affects your character compared to primary?
e.g. Will the difference between a knight and guardian be comparable to the difference between a dreadnaught and guardian? Or will there be (edit: considerably) less difference for the former due to it being only different secondary while latter is different primary?
wanton cosmos
@faint wasp secondary archetypes do not add any new skills, but instead add augments to existing skills from the first archetype.
Also, only the first archetype affects stat growth.
So, if you want to be a fighter-mage, your fighter skills will gain certain augments that you pick from the mage secondary archetype.
And if you want to pick fighter-tank, the same can be said.
faint wasp
Oh I remember from AMA now, I think he used an example with charge being able to be augmented to be a teleport, I didn't quite catch augments being from secondary and no skills from it. So I guess a primary class can end up playing drastically different based on secondary then
Oh and thank you for the answer @wanton cosmos
viral steppe
Will the Leader of Men test be full NDA or will people still be able to write about it?
onyx knoll
I believe it'll only be a visual NDA so they can talk about their experience but not show any footage of it
grizzled latch
Full nda for now though.
onyx knoll
I know that's what they did for the Pheonix Initiative crew, but maybe they'll do a full NDA
grizzled latch
They will probably lift it but haven't yet
grizzled latch
If the test goes horribly wrong they want to make sure to control the outflow of information
viral steppe
fair
forest pike
Will the freeholds gonna be permanent and stay in the world even if I log out or is it gonna be like in Trove?
forest pike
So how there gonna be enough land for minimum 8,000 players?
forest pike
But that's including water
grizzled latch
Everyone only gets 1 plot of land per account
The plots aren't all that big either
onyx knoll
someone did the maths, the freehold plots are pretty small so you can have a LOT of them in one node's ZoI
that being said
heavy smelt
480 km^2 is just the land I think
wanton cosmos
@forest pike I've heard 10k is the upper estimate for concurrent players.
50k is what he said for all players on a server
forest pike
Yeah so 50k freeholds over 480sqm
grizzled latch
Not everyone will invest in a freehold either
onyx knoll
what makes you think they plan on having enough room for every single player to own one? 😛 I wouldn't be surprised if they planned to limit it so that people would have to fight for them (like literally pvp)
fading latch
Not everyone will be able to have a freehold
wanton cosmos
There will be instanced and in city housing as well
fading latch
There is limited housing for freeholds
forest pike
Can't you own both freehold and instanced housing?
fading latch
Yes
wanton cosmos
And I'm sure people will be selling freehold spots as well
onyx knoll
@fading latch got a source on that? never seen any actual mentions that there will be limits 🤔
wanton cosmos
Just gotta get there first
grizzled latch
You can have a freehold, an apartment and a house
forest pike
So no way there's gonna be enough land
wanton cosmos
Also have to consider you won't get freeholds in a node unless the node is lvl 3, and nodes can be destroyed
It's not going to be too hard to get a freehold I think
grizzled latch
It just needs to fall under a zoi lvl 3+
The node does not need to be levled at all
fading latch
@onyx knoll i just have a statement that there will be plots of land in the ZOI to claim. Cant imagine itll be unlimited can u
distant vessel
If everyone of 10 000 players had a freehold of 250m^2, then half of the world would be covered by freeholds
fading latch
distant vessel
silly question waht is acre in m^2 ?
fading latch
There isnt going to be enough space for everybody
onyx knoll
@distant vessel 1 acre = 0.00404686 km^2
onyx knoll
so if we include the underrealm, AoC's map is 143 321 acres
fading latch
Good maths
onyx knoll
obviously that's not the amount of room for freeholds
thorn bison
0.00404686 * 50 000 = 202km2
forest pike
So basically the entire map gonna be filled with freeholds one way or another
fading latch
If we do a straight 1/1 conversion. Max is 14321 players will have freeholds
Not including land
onyx knoll
Also, freeholds are HALF an acre
gaunt chasm
Have we had any more news around releasing aoc in the EU? And are we still using my.com ?
fading latch
I believe my.com are for the better with ashes
A shift in their management
Hence the name change to my.games
desert ivy
@forest pike Not everyone will have a freehold, they're intended to be pretty expensive to get
thorn bison
wanton cosmos
Guys, freeholds will be destroyed all the time. It won't be hard to get one
thorn bison
Think its like 2 weeks ago
desert ivy
That's just going to be about my.games finally adding Ashes back to the website and stuff
It's not going to be about changing publisher or anything
gaunt chasm
I worry using them will hinder sales in EU
desert ivy
Well, they were the best option Intrepid had.
cold helm
The game is not region locked right? Whats to stop someone from just going to the US site and using that?
gaunt chasm
Yes with still having 100% creative freedom
fading latch
@cold helm No region lock. Free to use NA
gaunt chasm
@cold helm nothing
kind cloud
will there be a family/guild/node chat?
fading latch
Yes yes and yes
onyx knoll
technically no family-specific chat, but since you can have user-created chat I assume you'll be able to just make one for your family members if you want 🙂
uneven folio
How is going to work the report system? You will have acces to different options?
onyx knoll
@uneven folio it's too early to have this sort of detail for sure, but they way they talk about it I assume there will be many things you can report people for, and then GMs will investigate the reports. There is also going to be an AI system that does some automatic reporting for suspiscious activity like botting or RMT
grizzled latch
There will be active GMs aswell that will be monitoring chats so if you want them to come an see an issue firsthand then depending how busy it is they can.
hollow elm
You think Viewable GMs could ruin your immersion?
crystal beacon
So AOC will put alpha 1 access on sale again if they can manage more than 10k people in the server huh
Cause I saw it on their tweets
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon the tweet says they MAY open them up again
crystal beacon
yea if they can manage more people
onyx knoll
so even if the servers can handle 10k easily it's not guaranteed that they'll reopen sales
crystal beacon
lets not put our hopes up though
onyx knoll
just don't want people to start assuming that it's a guaranteed thing, and then end up complaining or be disapointed if they decide not to reopen sales 🙂
gleaming bridge
Does anyone know when they say "open world raid/dungeon" if it means literally in the open world? Or if it just means open to public entry?
abstract mountain
Anyone knows the guild population limit?
onyx knoll
@gleaming bridge it's more like a new area that opens up when a nodes reaches a certain point then an actual dungeon like in WoW
full badger
@abstract mountain 300 characters
timid portal
guild pop will cap at 300
onyx knoll
@abstract mountain 300 if you use all of your guild points on expansion
onyx knoll
❤️
gleaming bridge
@onyx knoll that's kinda what I meant, ok cool. So less just randomly in the swamp or plains, more like a door that leads to a thing (without loading times)
timid portal
yea, they typically will be between 2 nodes from my understanding
onyx knoll
@gleaming bridge yep! you can see them walking into one in the latest dev update video 😄
thorny moat
would shop certificate be sold at a different price for non-citizens?
full badger
No information on that yet @thorny moat
onyx knoll
Mhh, possibly, we don't have that kind of detail yet
thorny moat
that would be cool
i mean merchant cities could have monopoly over shops, lower prices for citizens and boost for non-citizens
onyx knoll
interesting idea, i recommend you make a forum post about it, or head down to #aoc-discussion to get more people's opinion! 😄
heavy cradle
So I'm not sure if this has been discussed in depth, or if I should put it into the Q&A this month and pray - but do we know yet if Questing is going to be the primary levelling route, or can we expect to see how games like Everquest did it, where you can go into the dungeon, set up a camp and grind mobs for 8 hours to level up in a group? I saw the latest video showed the dungeon and they said there's separate 'camps' which made me think it might be EQ-escue, which I'm hoping for. Mindless quest to quest is boring.
full badger
I'm sure if you wanted to, you could just grind mobs to max level. Will it be the most efficient levelling method? Probably not
But right now it's too early to tell
heavy cradle
I appreciate the response. Games like Everquest / DaoC had people levelling primarily through grouping up, delving deeper into the dungeons and grinding etc. Quests were simply a byproduct. It's games like WoW who are 'spam accept quest, kill X, return' etc.
I'm hoping it's the former than makes an appearence, but can't please everyone. 🙂
On their recent dev update they mentioned people setting up camp in the dungeons which is what made me think about it.
full badger
Time will tell. Feel free to put it as a question for the next Q&A though
proud raptor
@heavy cradle Intrepid has stated that they want to separate quests into different categories. While there will be mindless kill x amount of certain mob, there will be other types of quest that should prove less mindless.
I'm not sure about this, but I think you can also level through your artisan profession.
But I do not know if you can grind to max level
heavy cradle
I’d love to have to go into zones and do camp checks to see what’s open and what isn’t with your group
And consider PKing people taking your camp
I might start a forum thread and see if that gets any traction
full badger
Good idea
celest saffron
Question: For EU players that have backed through kickstarter and already have accounts on the official website, what's going to happen with the whole my.com thing? Will we be able to transfer or links our accounts on it?
celest saffron
Will the account management remain at the base website (accounts.ashesofcreation.com) ?
celest saffron
ok thanks
heavy cradle
Jahlon don't suppose you have any insight on my earlier question?
Or if I should add it into the Q&A
west turtle
ignored 
full badger
@west turtle did you have a question to ask?
heavy cradle
The thing is, you can't really have both. EQ / DaoC / L2 etc had grinding as the optimal, and only route. When you add Quests to the mix, you find that they give more reward with XP/H (for example, you don't see anyone playing WoW by grinding 1-110).
So although the potential is there to grind, if you want to, it will be trumped over Questing, unless something is put into place.
So it depends I guess on how they implement the questing.
celest saffron
@simple ether thanks for the confirmation. Would I need to create a fresh acount on my.games and then do the transfer?
heavy cradle
So would you say that WoW was primarily a Questing game, even though the option is there to grind?
celest saffron
alright
I hope there is the ability to download the game as is, without thiord party launchers involed 🤞
heavy cradle
Okay so we're on the same page in terms of defining levelling routes etc. So hopefully when you say there's two options, could indicate they have a way to managed overall XP/H from both routes.
Which could be an interesting implementation.
onyx knoll
@celest saffron the game will have it's own launcher
celest saffron
Yeah EU is what i was wondering about 😛
heavy cradle
I think we'd have to go through the MY launcher, unfortunately.
celest saffron
oh nos 😦
heavy cradle
Alas, Steven said we're getting some update on my this month, and he also smile reacted to a comment when I asked if it was going to be good or bad news.
So let's hope it's something other than 'we're working on it'.
Well quests should theoretically give gold too, but I know what you're saying. Grinding will likely be more optimal in other ways, not just XP. Like you say, gold / currency.
celest saffron
Will American servers be accessible outside of the US without the need of VPN?
great
full badger
e.g. South America if they make a dedicated server for it
thin spear
is node procedure generate?
fair yew
Nodes are static on every server
thin spear
I mean bulding in node
fair yew
The architecture is made based on the race that contributed the most but I believe each city layout is prebuilt in each node
Aside from mayor decided buildings
I mean for that node not for that node type
steel vessel
How is it decided whether a node will be military, economic, etc?
merry frigate
So how does a Canadian buy the pre order?
steel vessel
ah, thanks
merry frigate
when i tried it asked for a Zip Code but canada doesnt use them
fair yew
So like node 100 will have the same layout on every server aside from mayor buildings
onyx knoll
@merry frigate wut? we use zip codes, aka postal codes
thin spear
@simple ether @fair yew thanks for the info
onyx knoll
X0X 0X0 <- postal code
merry frigate
it is asking me for a 5 digit number but Canada uses a 6 digit one, like A1B-2C3
onyx knoll
Oh, are you on the amex card?
onyx knoll
rofl gime a sec, let me try it and see what it gives me
merry frigate
when i choose paypal and choose CAd it still asks for a Zip Code
onyx knoll
@merry frigate when you first enter checkout, can you pick your bank directly instead of the credit card option?
mine offers RBC
merry frigate
oh i fixed it. there was a option for your region in the top right
onyx knoll
\o/
civic obsidian
success !
merry frigate
can u upgrade to the 375$ pack at a later time?
merry frigate
Cool time to wait for Alpha 2
arctic sky
I thought it was pebcak error
merry frigate
do we have a up to date roadmap for the game?
heavy cradle
Alpha 1 next few months.
That’s probably all we’ve got.
Which is smart, more deadlines means more stress and less detail
wicked whale
Do we know how long each alpha will run for?
fair quest
Would expect a few months for alpha 1 and alpha 2. Educated guess Beta 1 will be next fall/winter
desert ivy
They're gonna run for more than a few months
fair quest
Can’t see it being earlier than Summer unless everything goes perfect, or their staff doubles which is all possible but still a push
desert ivy
Alphas are going to be really long in comparison to the betas which will be shorter
west turtle
most likely
fair quest
I know alpha 1/2 will run till next fall/winter like I said? That’s 10-12 months
onyx knoll
@fair quest @wicked whale Alpha 2 will never stop, the plan is to have it become the PTR, it'll be a test realm that is running in parallel to the actual game. As for Alpha 1, it's hard to say, it'll depend on how well the testing goes
fair quest
I would expect launch date to be early/mid 2022, @onyx knoll yes you are right there, but the beta start estimate I gave would still give a full 10-12 months of alpha testing prior to betas. Which is still a good chunk of time to wait, which I’m all for. Would rather a longer development to make it right
lavish zealot
I don't even know if I want to partake in an alpha that would move that long
forest pike
Braver of worlds testing will still be under nda?
lavish zealot
I feel like the experience of the game would be partially tainted since I already know whats to come and I would probably get the idea of how everything works, I don't personally like that "leg up" on the rest of the community
onyx knoll
The point of alpha is to test the hell out of it and find as many bugs and ways to abuse the game as possible, if you're not into that sort of thing then I absolutely recommend you wait for actual release haha
odd goblet
i was wondering, around when do we expect to have an over view or an idea for what the classes do, i mean i think the cleric is the main healer, bard is a support with some healing, but can we get a coupple of lines for everyone pls, like the summon is he a dps a supprt?
onyx knoll
(and give feedback of course)
lavish zealot
I just played the closed alpha for New world, but it was only 4 days. I feel like if i was participating in an alpha for like, 6 months
that at that point im just basically playing the game
onyx knoll
@odd goblet they'll be testing all the base archetypes in alpha 1, so we should be seeing all the base skills during that time. 5 of them initially, then they'll add them as it progresses. Secondary archetypes and full classes will be tested in alpha 2
odd goblet
wow, thank you very much @simple ether for the immidate respornce
lavish zealot
I just wanna know how secondary class choice affects primary, thats my biggest question. I put it on the reddit for the next AMA hopefully.
odd goblet
from what i understand the 2nd class is more of augments for the first one, and the first class is the main one u really need to be carefull to chose, i know u can change ur secondry, and for example, a tank will always be a tank no matter what 2nd class u choose right
onyx knoll
@lavish zealot we probably won't have a lot of details on how exactly each augment will affect the base skills until alpha 2
odd goblet
I just wanna know how secondary class choice affects primary, thats my biggest question. I put it on the reddit for the next AMA hopefully.
@lavish zealot from what i understand the 2nd class will just augment ur main spells
hollow dust
Can we expect a "#web-maintenance" notification when we can buy the game in EU ?
forest pike
This already been answered multiple times also in the recent interviews
odd goblet
game is expected 2022ish right?
forest pike
Not officially
faint wasp
@lavish zealot I asked earlier, and the reply was that primary class has all your skills, secondary gives no extra skills only augments for primary skills.
From a recent AMA if I recall correctly Steven mentioned an example of an augment being a charge skill blinking instead
lavish zealot
I heard something about that @odd goblet. But does that mean like a Ranger/cleric has the exact same augments as a Rogue/cleric just because they both went secondary? or are they entirely unique
forest pike
Probably unique
lavish zealot
What type of augment bonuses would you get for going Rogue/Rogue? etc.
odd goblet
basically u really need to think about the main class, second can be changed in game
faint wasp
@lavish zealot The augments would likely not be exact same, since the augments change skills in very specific ways
lavish zealot
There has to be some sort of great bonus for going double prim
forest pike
Doubling down is the most potent
odd goblet
is it?