At least we got to see that with some colors
#questions
trim moon
flint ibex
happens to the best of us
idle siren
misty condor
Kappa
short coral
lmao
ebon star
winged whale
Those are the best kind
dark jungle
Toast changing channel name to #leeks
glacial night
but im not a RAPPER
round belfry
LOL
crystal beacon
should post one
viral torrent
You're going to the General Patton's uniform room Steven
tulip hatch
Lets return this channel to a questions and answers only channel friends
You can talk about steven's accident in #general-discussion
Thank you
eternal frigate
I think my question will drown. Does the game have something like Interface -> Combat -> Show Target of Target option?
tired sedge
Steven win will you let us buy a1 access 😬 I really need it
winged whale
Are the raids going to have a timer for how often you can complete it?
void vortex
I have a noob question
tulip hatch
@eternal frigate yes you can target of target on the UI
Tootu no mention of timers have been brought up as of yet
oak depot
but what if the target of target is me??? 😦
void vortex
everyone (and Intrepid studio) say that they dont know when the release o fAOC will be....ok ! but does Intrepid Studio know what they would want to have the release ?
steady ocean
@winged whale some raids are event specific and depend on the tier of the node that may be time gated due to node progression take time to advance. You can read more here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Raids
void vortex
@trim moon are you from Intrepid Studio ?
winged whale
@steady ocean awesome, thanks!
trim moon
@void vortex nope, but they said this multiple times
steady ocean
@void vortex the devs have said they only want to announce a phase/game release when they know for sure the game is ready.
void vortex
@trim moon i know that (when the game will be finished etc...) ok...but do they estimate (or hope) that will be reached at a certain moment...maybe they could say "oh we dont know when, but il would be great if it was in september 2022" (for instance)
scarlet topaz
Will there be other ruler positions like a mayor? Like a harbormaster for instance?
short coral
Do we get to see the new months cosmetics before the current months is removed? (Im even curious what all the previous ones look like)
steady ocean
They stopped making estimates @void vortex
trim moon
@scarlet topaz Try this link https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_governments#Trade_agreements
errant chasm
@short coral all the packs are on the wiki alot of amazing 1's have been missed 😦
steady ocean
@short coral no but you can check past cosmetic packages here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Costumes and https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs
void vortex
In every company, there is a goal and a time to achieve it...in a secret agenda ^^
coarse crypt
hi i just bought it now how can i download it?
steady ocean
@coarse crypt Do you mean you bought a pre-order package?
coarse crypt
yes
short coral
Ty guys
steady ocean
@scarlet topaz there will be several positions in the various nodes and at a castle. Each node has it's own version, and a castle is run by the guild owner that controls it.
ebon star
@coarse crypt emails will be sent out about downloading the launcher when access is available to testing based on which package you bought. Game is in pre-alpha right now
full badger
@coarse crypt The game isn't available to download yet. We are still in pre-alpha testing right now
coarse crypt
ohhhh ok ok thank you!!! @ebon star
mild moss
if I were to preorder a version with ingame currency would the money be deleted once the game goes full live?
steady ocean
You can read a little more about node governments here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_governments @scarlet topaz
@mild moss the currency the pre-order packs comes with is for the cosmetic store. Not in-game currency
safe dagger
Is there any Info about Skins of the previous Packs? Will we have the chance to purchase them in the Shop at some point or was it a one time thing?
steady ocean
They were one time offers, but the possibility of reskins that are similar to them remain @safe dagger
unreal zealot
@safe dagger i think there will be different colours or varients of the same ones at some point
ebon star
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs history of packages and past cosmetics
safe dagger
Thank you 
really want the one that looks like a plague doctor
ebon star
unfortunately that specific costume wont be for sale again but something close may be found in game
outer isle
@plucky pawn since steven technically leaked that if we saved the photo can we share it?
tired sedge
The shop isn’t letting me buy the pack I want it’s giving me a error anyone know why
steady ocean
@outer isle It's still under NDA so I wouldn't even if you were not part of the NDA
digital yacht
but it was leaked 🙂
tawny sonnet
anyone knows if there will be a possibility to get alpha/beta access without those preorder packs because i only really care about the access and the playtime or if they have in mind to add some kind of thing like that ?
digital yacht
@tawny sonnet atm no
unreal zealot
you have a friend who kickstarted and gets beta keys to give away.
thorny warren
Yea, i noticed @digital yacht was wondering if there is more than just "technically problems" as a reason to it
steady ocean
@tawny sonnet You can play the game once it releases without having to buy the cosmetics via the subscription
digital yacht
no idea
tawny sonnet
@digital yacht ok ty
oak depot
Since there are things like a Mariner Gunnary class https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ship_building#Mariner_classes, I assume Sea-faring PvP will be a thing?
dark jungle
@oak depot yes
steady ocean
It will be @oak depot ! Both pve and pvp
crystal beacon
yeah
tawny sonnet
@steady ocean yes i know that but i would like to buy the alpha/beta access without the cosmetics
trim moon
[Question] I heard @simple ether talk about a "Bullets and Board" or something like that in his latest Q&A, which tavern owners and castle holders can put out. I didn't here anything about this before, does anyone know what this might be about?
steady ocean
@trim moon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bulletin_boards
dusty ocean
What is the proper place to give feedback/suggestions to the devs?
trim moon
@steady ocean Thanks! I wasn't finding the correct term
oak depot
@tawny sonnet currently not available. You are at the mercy of possible key give-aways. You can buy pre-order packs to secure Alpha-2 or future Beta access, but those do contain cosmetics.
steady ocean
Once the forum issues are resolve you can post on the official forums https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/ , or try https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/ @dusty ocean
barren flare
In regards to leveling, has there been any information about the possibility to outlevel a node? And a need to seek out higher stage nodes?
steady ocean
The creatures and dungeons/raids that spawn in a node's zone of influence are determined by the node. So if you are a high level and are near a low tier node, you may not see the high lvl monsters that are similar to your level. @barren flare
You can check out https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Node_progression for more details
tired sedge
Is there a problem with buying the packs I currently can not buy them do to a null error
bronze panther
I just purchased one, and i got no error
tawny sonnet
is there a limit how many players can level up /own /live in a node or however you actually call it , there has to be right?
steady ocean
Some users are experiencing errors, you can try back in a bit and see if the purchase went through or try again. Also check #web-maintenance for periodic updates
nimble tartan
what did steven leak? XD
dry aurora
If there is a limit I would imagine it would be super high since we can have 250v250 wars
proven root
ahhh missed a leak
steady ocean
Anyone in the nodes zone of influence can contribute to a node's progression. There is a "soft cap" per Steven to a node
tawny sonnet
but i mean why would people then decide to attack a node if everyone just uses that 1 node ?
dusty ocean
I think the "soft cap" is that it becomes increasing expensive to become a citizen as the citizenship increases. (higher taxes and more expensive houses)
steady ocean
@tawny sonnet that may be a good discussion point for #aoc-discussion I'm not certain if there is any simple answer
tawny sonnet
@steady ocean ok thanks , because i get that each node can have different benefits but since there can only be 5 nodes maxed why destroy them if you can just use them
steady ocean
A server may want to upgrade a surrounding node to get it's benefits, or to cause certain raids/dungeons to be unlocked. There could be various reasons, to also include simple diplomacy and node wars.
Surrounding nodes are capped at the tier below the parent node, so until the parent node is de-leveled, the vassal nodes cannot be upgraded.
tawny sonnet
yea i know, some points i totally understand why you would want to change it
crystal drum
I was watching a Pre-alpha video from may and in the gameplay he opens his bag, can the bag be adjustable in size? or will we have to scroll down to see all the slots inside the bag menu like in the video shows?
thorny warren
the UI is not nearly done yet, i think they just hired someone to do so
steady ocean
The devs have discussed the possibility of making some components of the UI customizable. We will need to wait and see though
viscid island
Have they said how cities will be named? Will each node have a name baked in ready for when it progresses to that point?
digital yacht
there will be a set of names to choose from
but i think it has a preset name to begin with and the mayor can change it
civic dirge
would be great if the first mayor can name the city ^^
ruby swift
@civic dirge
opaque laurel
You know he has a point
civic dirge
as long as the first name is fine and cannot be changed it should be good right ?
slow sky
But penisville and dicktopia will still be selectable options correct? 
They will not be points you distribute but you will have base stats that increase based on your level
And class
digital yacht
and race
humble flare
Do you think Steven would like the idea of players being able to kidnap and remove organs of other players and sell them on a "black market" and the player that got the organs stolen receives a debuff until they go complete a quest to get the organ back?
steady ocean
@humble flare That is probably a good discussion for #aoc-discussion People may share their opinion
silver geyser
In what form arenas will be ? 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 ?
steady ocean
currently 1/3/5 and possibly 20 man group sizes have been discussed https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas
brazen island
was expecting like 2v2 4v4 and 8v8
ruby swift
dusty ocean
Is there any material about the stock exchange more recent than the 2017 interview referenced on the wiki?
amber inlet
Is there any ways to get beta keys without buying any of the packages?
copper sphinx
Are the cosmetics available for use by every race? specifically asking about the armor set in the pre order pack.
slow sky
@amber inlet get buddy buddy with a high tiered kickstarter backer and hope they give you one of the keys they can hand out.
All cosmetics sold on the store is all race equippable
amber inlet
Who wants to be my buddy buddy? 😄
mighty ermine
me me
slow sky
Game is still pre-alpha and alpha 1 is no longer buyable
modern jolt
!tc I bought my pre order pack yearssss ago it was one of the 500 dollar packs, I'm trying to get info on what all I get access too and what not cause I legit dont remember, I can see the items in my inventory on the site but as far as everything else with alpha access and such I dont remember, who could I ask? Again I bought this towards the beginning ashes
empty dragon
In the interview with Steve, he said that Rogue can find hidden doors,traps etc. Does it only work if your Main is Rogue and not your sub?
slow sky
You can buy a pre-order pack to get into alpha 2 at the earliest if you don’t count the next stage of Apoc testing
analog panther
375$ .. and I can't test alpha 1?
slow sky
@empty dragon since it’s a Utility Skill i assume it’s main class only
crisp holly
@analog panther Yes
empty dragon
I have so many questions I wanna ask
analog glen
yes, because alpha 1 is for the people that backed the kickstarter
empty dragon
Is it okay if I ask?
onyx knoll
@analog panther i believe the 250$ also give you an alpha 2 keys
slow sky
Ask away and we’ll try to answer what we can.
analog glen
sure
crisp holly
@analog panther Alpha 1 was $500 when it was last available in 2018 or something like that
modern jolt
Well I know Inhave alpha 1 access then
onyx knoll
You need to have backed to a certain tier to access alpha 1 as a kickstarter backer
empty dragon
I saw in the video that peon made about ashes of creation, that there would be social organization like thieves guild. Will you be granted special skill if you join for an example Thieves guild?
crisp holly
@modern jolt Yes, you should have Alpha 1 access if you did KS and might need to go to a support thing for info
@empty dragon Yes
stable plover
@dusty ocean There's a 2018 reference on the wiki page, but the timestamp looks wrong (Steven doesn't join that video until much further in)
crystal beacon
You get augments for that
empty dragon
Wow nice, thx for that info. Now I know what my class will be
crisp holly
What that skills/augments are, we don't know yet @empty dragon
slow sky
@empty dragon not much is known but steven mentioned in tims interview that you can climb the social organization to a high level and get some siege skills or abilities that have big impacts
dusty ocean
@stable plover thanks ill look at it again. i opened it to the timestamp but it had nothing to do with stocks at that point.
stone walrus
Is it possible to buy the packs and/or cosmetics for the EU region at this time?
empty dragon
Hmm... sneaking around, pickpocketing,stealing.... What a wonderful feeling it will be
slow sky
Shop purchases are NA only but there will eventually be a transfer so you can carry what you purchase to EU
empty dragon
That is obvious
slow sky
Technically pickpocketing is not a confirmed feature as the only thing we have to go off of is you cannot steal from living players
empty dragon
Oh yes, I got a question. In the city will you be able to see other players names?
modern jolt
@crisp holly yea I emailed them
slow sky
Yes there will be options you can choose as to how names are displayed
Whether you wanna see their guild name,title, etc
empty dragon
wait if that is so, when I steal something and a player sees me. He will see my name
crisp holly
Ooo can you hid your name from people even if they have it so it should be displayed?
ruby swift
Actually it is based on your choices I thought. Whether you want those displayed to others, not them choosing what to see about you.
empty dragon
they should make it so that in the city, your name will not be displayed but when you chat they will see your name in the chatbox
onyx knoll
@empty dragon you cant steal from players so not sure why they would care
slow sky
Not sure i know it can be changed
onyx knoll
Make a post on the forums if you have suggestions
empty dragon
where is the forum?
slow sky
“In-game a character's name is displayed above their head. This can be the first or last name.” from the wiki on character naming
Fr
crystal beacon
Great timing lol
onyx knoll
They are your best bet at having the devs notice your ideas, discord goes too fast for them to see everything
granite lake
I have a small question sorry for interrupting your discussion
Is 150-200ping playable i am completely new in mmo thought you guys are experienced ...
onyx knoll
Depends what your focus is, 200 ping is playable if you are doing gathering/crafting, it won't be great for pvp tho
slow sky
Depends on the game but generally for myself 150-200ping is pretty unplayable but im spoiled
granite lake
Ok will increase in network speed and router to wifi 6 help
onyx knoll
You still have plenty of time, this game prob won't be out for 2-3 years :)
granite lake
Really
steady ocean
It could help @granite lake, but it will depend on the region you choose to play in as well
onyx knoll
Unfortunatly. We haven't even started alpha 1 yet
granite lake
Ok that's good and bad both for me
outer isle
heres the tweet without the f https://twitter.com/AoCSupport/status/1288571983542677504
granite lake
I am from Asia India and there aren't any asian guild that are taking member below 18
That's my main issue
crystal beacon
just make one
empty dragon
I see so you cannot create your own religion but have to choose and existing one
onyx knoll
Correct
granite lake
Bro making one is same as playing solo who would like to be playing under a child
empty dragon
I will follow the religion that worships the goddess of love
onyx knoll
Other underage players?
modern jolt
Have they said when alpha 1 starts?
granite lake
Ultra rare
steady ocean
There is still plenty of time for guilds to form before launch, so I'd just keep an eye out for guilds that form that will accept your age range @granite lake
crystal beacon
then just dont be in one 🤷♂️
onyx knoll
Alpha 1 is in fall
empty dragon
will we get notified on our email?
granite lake
Playing alone is boring I will roming like a zombie with armour in Minecraft knowing nothing
weary mural
Who do I talk to regarding an accidental double purchase I just noticed from 2018
modern jolt
I confirmed I have access to alpha 1
weary mural
Ty
onyx knoll
@modern jolt good on you, i hope you'll take the time to test as much stuff as you can and provide constructive feedback and criticism on the forums! :D
empty dragon
if you are a citizen of a city, can you visit another city?
onyx knoll
Yes
granite lake
I guess that's obvious
modern jolt
@onyx knoll absolutely, like the creators I was a big Lineage 2 player, so I'm wanting everything and more for this game.
empty dragon
nice that would mean i can steal something from another city and then take that back to my city and sell it for a higher price
onyx knoll
Being a citizen of a city doesnt lock you out of any other nodes, hell you could even buy a house in an other node too! You can only be citizen in one city tho
short coral
Can we have a get married in each burrow we live in?
onyx knoll
I dont know that you will be able to pickpocket super valuable stuff but we'll see
trim moon
@short coral Nice edit lol
empty dragon
i do hope that will become possible
short coral
❤️ lol
crystal beacon
Will world access be limited in Alpha 2?
onyx knoll
@short coral not sure what you mean, we don't have a lot of info about how marriage will work tho
empty dragon
they did say that marriage will be possible
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon it might be at the start but alpha 2 will keep going until launch and eventually it'll have evrything
crystal beacon
ah cool
pseudo merlin
@crystal beacon i thnk it was around 20 percent of the world map taht will become availale
onyx knoll
Yes, we know there will be marriage but we don't know details like if it'll HAVE to be in a temple or that sort of stuff
20% of the world is for alpha 1, not 2
pseudo merlin
oh i assumed that it would be the same for both alphas
empty dragon
damn that is scary, image marrying a female character but irl that's a dude
crystal beacon
so... real life?
onyx knoll
Hah
empty dragon
gotta be careful
crystal beacon
thailand's a real place
damn that is scary, image marrying a female character but irl that's a dude
There are no accidents - Master oogway
onyx knoll
Keep this chat clear for questions plz ^^
ivory ginkgo
I figured it was 20 for alpha 1 and whole world for alpha 2 with frequent resets up to launch
short coral
Will I be able to loot players house deeds?
crystal beacon
when you say... resets.
granite lake
What is oce
empty dragon
Xenellia, why do you know so much about this game?
ionic root
Austrailia @granite lake
granite lake
Ok what is short form for Asian server
onyx knoll
I read the wiki a lot.. lol @short coral you mean... Loot the right to the plot after deatroying a node where the house was? No because the node will reset to 0 after being destroyed and you can only have a house in node 3 and up
The asian servers are SEA
empty dragon
by node do you mean the kingdom?
granite lake
Thanks
short coral
Damn, so no possible way to steal a house?
empty dragon
maybe
onyx knoll
No, you can destroy a house and loot some of its materials but not steal a house
oak depot
SEA = South East Asia, correct? And OCE = Oceania
granite lake
You should become the goddess / god of guide for newcomers @onyx knoll
It would help a lot
empty dragon
maybe xenellia is a dude
granite lake
Ok god
empty dragon
pfft
granite lake
How's that
onyx knoll
Nodes are not necessarly kingdoms... They're a bit long to explain i recommend you read this if you want to understand them better https://ashes101.com/nodes
empty dragon
wasn't there something like being able to build a house outside a node?
pliant ocean
Freeholds
oak depot
Is there plans for underwater biomes?
empty dragon
yes exactly
granite lake
I would go to a remote area then
onyx knoll
Kinda, you can build a freehold outside the edge of a town, but it still has to be inside the zone of influence of a node
Yes there will be underwater stuff, as well as underwater mounts
empty dragon
and if that node gets destroyed than the freehold gets destroyed too?
onyx knoll
Not necessarly, if you break a node you have two hours to go around and break other stuff within its zone of influence
tulip hatch
Reminder to keep this channel to Questions and Answers
Take opinions/comments/discussion to the appropriate channels
Thank you!
empty dragon
ok thank god
rotund zinc
Even if it gets destroyed, a plan is saved
onyx knoll
Right, and all your furnitures will get mailed to you
rotund zinc
So you can recreate it again quickly once the node is restored
golden lintel
i just found out about the game , can anyone tell me if i back the game when can i play the alpha?
empty dragon
fall
pseudo merlin
alpha 2, the earliest alpha you can access, is next year @golden lintel
alpha 1 access closed to the general public for now
onyx knoll
We dont have an exact time for alpha 2, but next year is a safe bet
golden lintel
ohh ok so anyone who playing is alpha one is playing now ?
short coral
Fall time alpha 1
onyx knoll
Not yet, alpha 1 starts in fall
rotund zinc
That was for the early backers
pseudo merlin
@golden lintel the general public is not playing now, but Phoenix Initiative (aka VIP backers) are testing at the moment
ruby swift
@oak depot There is underwater content and dungeons, there are no underwater nodes planned.
golden lintel
ohh ok , thanks for the info guys
rotund zinc
Really the only reason to pre-order at this moment would be cosmetics and maybe name reservation
Since cosmetics change
ruby swift
Name reservation will go in package value order KS>Summer>Intrepid packages.
oak depot
@golden lintel https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
onyx knoll
Rotate is a bit of a missleading word... The cosmetic change every month or so, but they dont plan on making them rotate aka if you miss out on one you liked it's gone forevah
rotund zinc
Yeah I edited it after I read what I wrote lol
onyx knoll
^^
ruby swift
empty dragon
Will every class have some special function, like rogue being able to find hidden doors and stuff?
golden lintel
can i play alpha two till the game comes out ?
ruby swift
Yes, all classes have utility skills
earnest musk
i assume not but will AoC have nudity?
onyx knoll
Yes alpha 2 will run until repease tho the servers might not be open 24/7
empty dragon
where can i see the utility skills?
granite lake
Just got to know there are only 4 sea guild with 3 being 18+ the world is cursed
You may continue your conversation this was a bit dark message
eager fog
is there an active beta atm? or one that might come soon?
ruby swift
A2 is meant to be persistent as a goal. That means always up except for maintenance and patches.
slow meadow
@earnest musk no nudity
empty dragon
is there a website maybe where i can see the utility skills?
ruby swift
There is no list of utility skills per class yet
onyx knoll
We don't have a full list but you can see whar we know here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Skills
empty dragon
oh nice thanks
earnest musk
@slow meadow ty
onyx knoll
No active beta until a while, and even then it won't be an open one you have to buy a pack to get in
empty dragon
wait you can parkour in this game?!
granite lake
Yo guys according to you guys which server have more active friendly eng and competative and pve players like overall good server
slow meadow
@granite lake there are no servers currently as the game isn't even in alpha 1
onyx knoll
that is literally impossible to tell at the moment
granite lake
Your experience from other games
desert ivy
What?
granite lake
You guys might have played a lot of mmo unlike me
onyx knoll
You mean region? No idea i only play on NA servers
granite lake
Yeah region I would like know as I don't like peaceful server
That's boring
Kinda
crystal beacon
Can I trade items and gold for ingame companionship?
pseudo merlin
@granite lake no server will be peaceful as the world will constnatly be in flux and the game encourages active PvP or group PvP content
onyx knoll
Each server will differ greatly it's impossible to say which ones will be more pvp-oriented until launch
empty dragon
do you guys have a link on guild skills?
tame wigeon
I get the vibe of old school Ultima Online pre-trammel right? 🙂
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon erm.... I guess... Technically... If you find a player willing to?
@empty dragon we dont have a list of specific skills yet
pseudo merlin
@crystal beacon there is a marriage system in teh game, so as long as you're a pleasant person you wouldnt even need to give much item or gold. just find someone you can click with
crystal beacon
lmao thanks guys.
empty dragon
thanks
crystal beacon
Isn't Alpha 1 happening right now?
last mirage
Hey, I've heard that tier 3 mounts can be used in combat, but what exactly designates a mount as tier 3?
eager fog
so anyone gotten any emails for download, said there would be at the end of july or did i read it incorrectly? 😮
pseudo merlin
@crystal beacon alpha 1 testing is going on for Phoenix Initiative (VIP backers), not for general public yet. ETA for general public is fall
granite lake
What is the minimum required ping for PvP any guesses I know it depends on opponents ping as well if he has lower ping he has a bit of advantage
onyx knoll
@last mirage https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Royal_mounts
pseudo merlin
@eager fog you must be imagining things because there are no ETA yet. Steven has done away with specific deadlines a while ago after the company kept failing to meet htem
eager fog
thats what i thought, awww lol
i feel like i shouldve gone to the kickstarter, cuz i got the $375 version in their store.
dire pond
Do you know if the caravan can be repaired or healed during the escort quest?
pseudo merlin
@granite lake like we said, the game isnt even out yet so we will not be quite sure of these things. come back in the fall and then we will have a clearer answer for you
granite lake
Ok
pseudo merlin
@dire pond no word on that yet, but that is a very interesting feature you just suggested
crystal beacon
How much do we know about Shipworking?
onyx knoll
@eager fog kickstarter has been closed for years
eager fog
oh. im new to all of this XD
steady ocean
@crystal beacon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ship_building
eager fog
thank you for answering my questions 🙂
slow sky
we dont really know how long it will take to traverse the world.
frozen tartan
several hours
crisp holly
^
frozen tartan
crisp holly
From corner to opposite corner
kind cloud
how early can we get a mount?
onyx knoll
You will get one fairly early in a quest
pseudo merlin
we dont know much more details than what Xenellia said
arctic sky
Everything evolves
slow sky
apocalypse was full action combat so is not representative of how combat will be in the finalized mmo
oak depot
How many times can I cross breed my mount? As in, once I breed a mix of dragon and weasel can I breed the offspring with a bear?
sleek flower
Question: Looking at the class matrix, I dont see a Druid role. What class combo do you all think would be that Druid type class?
pseudo merlin
@oak depot there will be odd combinations of animal breeding that is possible, but only to a certain extent
Steven mentioned some of the combinations will be extreme such as mating an antelope with a giraffe
pliant ocean
Cleric/Ranger, Cleric/Summoner or Summoner/Ranger maybe @sleek flower
oak depot
@pseudo merlin but you extreme example was still a pure breed with a pure breed. Was wondering if cross-breed with a cross-breed has been mentioned or addressed
pseudo merlin
@oak depot if i told you anything more at this point it would be speculation. we don't know a lot more about cross breeding at this point
sand gazelle
Can anyone explain to me what Siege summons are?
sand gazelle
Hmm, so basically 8 tanks can summon a huge wall across the battlefield? So the secondary archetype doesn't matter? Just have to be 8 players that have Tank as the main archetype?
boreal abyss
We do not know Tiago, but yes
pseudo merlin
yes, the primary archetype has to be the same
boreal abyss
and in same party
sand gazelle
Oh, does that mean same guild or?
patent pier
also the leader needs to be of that achetype
sand gazelle
Ok, makes sense
@patent pier I see
Do we know if there is any way to change the main archetype?
pseudo merlin
you cannot change main archetypes @sand gazelle
sand gazelle
So is it character locked?
pseudo merlin
yes, only secondary archetypes can be changed
lean rapids
Will the Kickstarter Exclusive - Demonic / Angelic Character racial skin from the Leader of Men Kickstarter pack be available in any way shape or form in the future, or is the only way to obtain that skin to upgrade to the Leader of Men Kickstarter pack?
slow meadow
@lean rapids they will not be available any other way
lean rapids
Welp
arctic sky
@lean rapids all Kickstarter exclusive are exclusive
pseudo merlin
keep in mind it is no longer possible to purchase Kickstarter packs @lean rapids
lean rapids
Can upgrade tho
slow meadow
@lean rapids if you already had a kickstarter package I believe you can still upgrade your packager through the store, but if not then no way to get there.
just need to link your KS to your account and then the option to upgrade should be on the store.
sand gazelle
What do they mean by "in-game marketplace credits" in the pre-order packs?
lean rapids
Think I'll still be able to upgrade when they actually show the in game model of that?
slow meadow
@lean rapids no way to know that unfortunately. they will stop allowing upgrades at some point.
boreal abyss
@lean rapids they will tell before they stop allowing upgrades
lean rapids
Ahhh gotcha ty ty
sand gazelle
But wasn't it no P2W? Sorry if it's a dumb question
boreal abyss
Cash shop only has cosmetics
which is where you use premium currency
which is what the "in-game marketplace credits" are
called "Embers"
sand gazelle
I see, ty
midnight crag
Does anyone know if the siege efforts on nodes will require low level materials as well as likely higher tier
boreal abyss
Most likely, but we dont know
tardy oracle
can mutlipe people put items into one caravan?
onyx knoll
@tardy oracle Not for personal caravans, I don't think, but mayoral caravans might have good from different players I belive
boreal abyss
@tardy oracle Yes
onyx knoll
@boreal abyss personal ones too?
boreal abyss
Yes, afaik
Mayoral caravans are caravans the mayor sends out with stuff in them, I dont think players can put tstuff in those
onyx knoll
Interesting, I don't see I'd seen anything mentioning that
boreal abyss
Steven quote from recent interview (cant remember which one)
"Caravans can carry stuff for multiple people"
or smth like that
if he meant that it can carry more than 1 person worth, or if you need ot hand over goods to caravan owner tho, we dont know for sure
onyx knoll
sweet, thanks
oblique shell
true facts: did you know kcud is backwards for duck
that ones for free
next on you gatta pay up
thorn quartz
can nodes inside the same region fight each other?
slow sky
yes
onyx knoll
@thorn quartz yes, they'll most likely want to since nearby node prevent smaller nodes from growing :3
raven fox
@plucky pawn Hi Toast! Yesterday I talk with one of the admins for a Spanish channel in this discord, I know we are a lot of Spanish waiting this channel but idk, if you can considerate the opportunity or give us a channel will be really great.
thorn quartz
ah awesome, i was under the impression it was region vs region only
steady ocean
There are node sieges, which a vassal node cannot siege a parent node. But there can be node wars to determine which node is the top node of the region
grizzled remnant
Are all your characters locked to a single guild or is that a per-character type thing (or a hybrid system)?
steady ocean
Is my understanding
onyx knoll
@grizzled remnant that's a good question, i'm not sure it's been mentioned yet. I know alts share housing with one an other but i'm not sure about guilds
steady ocean
@grizzled remnant Alts can join a different guild
onyx knoll
Ah yes, just found it
steady ocean
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guilds Check under "Guild Membership" for more details
onyx knoll
that is correct
grizzled remnant
Damn you guys are actually mvp. 👍
west turtle
heard rumors about A1 being possible to buy again soon? i hope
steady ocean
Just rumors at this point.
slow sky
it hasn't been buyable since 2018, so hope for it
onyx knoll
there are rumors that they MIGHT MAYBE re-open the alpha 1 packs IF they need mroe people to test some things but I wouldn't hold my breath
west turtle
ez man
onyx knoll
Yeah the alpha 1 packs sold for 500$ before and I doubt they'd make them cheaper
Again tho, this is absolutely not something confirmed by Intrepid, so don't take it as anything more then player hope 😛
boreal abyss
they might open sales for A1 if they need more testers if the tests go well
vapid bronze
idk how competitive and skill based they will try to make arena in AOC but was Esports being mentioned as maybe a goal in the future? Also idk if any staff reads this but i've watched a lot of interviews and i haven't seen it getting mentioned so i will just ask here. I'm a Blade and Soul player and combat in there for me is just the best. I've played a lot of MMO's and imo no other MMO has this much skill based combat in the game. Have you guys ever thought about this type of combat? i've always wondered why no MMO ever copied the combat.
vapid bronze
a like community tourneys?
boreal abyss
and it will take time 🤷♂️
vapid bronze
oh yea ill edit it maybe some people dont understand
onyx knoll
Their combat system isn't as action as BnS, some skills will be tab target some will be action
steady ocean
@vapid bronze AoC has taken inspiration from a lot of different MMOs. If you think the particular MMO you are referring to could provide something for the devs to think about, I'd encourage you to make a post on the official forums and describe how that combat system would make a positive impact in AoC https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
sinful sand
Hey guys, sorry to interrupt. I just discovered the existance of the Animal Husbandry profession (which I think can be really cool !). I was wondering, do you HAVE to posess a freehold to do that profession ? Or are there "freely accessible" stables ?
slow sky
most processing will be handled on free holds unless a mayor decides to make a facility for you
boreal abyss
cause freeholds can hold the building types your profession needs
sinful sand
Just to be clear, freeholds are going to be a pretty rare thing to have right ?
slow sky
free holds will be 1 per account so rare in that sense
vapid bronze
okay i'll try to make a post on the forums about it, idk bout you guys but everything they mention is great ofcourse but for me the whole game could be perfect but if combat is not great it's a big minus for me.
onyx knoll
Maybe some cities will be able to build animal husbandry facilities but that's not confirmed
blazing bobcat
will we be able to breed the flying mounts that come from the drops? animal husbandry question
onyx knoll
@vapid bronze They are aware that combat is an extremely important part of an MMO and will work hard to make a system that feels good
sinful sand
I thought there were also a limited amount of freehold spots in the world, did I misunderstand ?
boreal abyss
@blazing bobcat no
onyx knoll
@blazing bobcat No, you cannot breed flying mounts, but you can breed gliding mounts
vapid bronze
i hope soo
boreal abyss
Timed Legendary Mounts cannot be bred
steady ocean
@sinful sand There are two components to breeding. One aspect is taming wild creatures. This you can do anywhere as it is considered an "exploration" linked skill. The 2nd part is the breeding, or animal husbandry, which will be linked to player owned free holds via the stable AND royal stables inside of a node or a castle.
onyx knoll
You can RAISE the flying mounts if you find an egg (super rare), but you can't breed them to get more
slow sky
but your proficiency in the animal husbandry profession will determine how long that timed legendary mount can live for
steady ocean
You can read more in detail here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry
raw shuttle
can I add pictures/links in here? it is about the wiki pages, part of it is in spanish even tho I have it set to english
patent pier
Im pretty sure Freeholds are pretty limited, not like apartments, am I wrong?
boreal abyss
<> around links, and you can to answers in this channel
patent pier
Like nont every account will have a Freehold, if you do, you can only have one per account
onyx knoll
@patent pier Correct, they take physical space in the world and are pretty expensive
sinful sand
Thanks for your answers guys ! I just can't wait for this game
tired sedge
Has anyone got a pack today ?
onyx knoll
@raw shuttle you can poke @dark jungle about it, he's the Wiki master
tired sedge
I’m currently trying to buy one and it’s giving me a error
raw shuttle
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes here point 1 and 1.1 are in spanish and the rest in english for me
onyx knoll
uuuh... weird they don't seem to be in spanish for me
boreal abyss
@raw shuttle contact @dark jungle
he runs the wiki
steady ocean
Shows English for me
dull ruin
yep its normal for me as well
dark jungle
@raw shuttle we are in the process of translating wiki pages at the moment. some will be partially in english until this is complete
granite arrow
So, it says the "over enchanting" a piece of gear can result in the item being destroyed. In other words, is this basically like BDO's enchanting system? Completely totally gone?
slow sky
the item won't be gone but it will require significant resources and probably a crafter to restore it
boreal abyss
@granite arrow unsure, he could mean that
or he could mean it would need to be repaired (and take a permanent dmg to durability)
ssince that is a system in Ashes
steady ocean
The wiki says over-enchanting may lead to it being destroyed
So I'd assume completely gone
granite arrow
Really hope its not destroyed lol. This is the first thing that I really disagree with so far. I absolutely hated that in bdo
Farming all that or spending all that money on a piece of gear just for it to be rng destroyed
onyx knoll
then don't over enchant? XD
boreal abyss
I'd assume so too
however, remember that "gear detruction" is a system in Ashes too
strong void
Pretty sure he said in asmongolds interview that there was no way to destory items via encahnting
even if it failed
but I could be misremembering
steady ocean
Make sure to bring up any concerns you may have on the official forums. Your experiences would be valuable if you choose to share them https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/ 🙂
granite arrow
Don't over enchant and get beat by someone because of pure rng because they rolled lucky?
slow sky
risk vs reward is the name of the game
granite arrow
See, I agree with that. The problem with this is theres no counter play its pure rng lol
hasty moss
if someone is caught cheating are they going to be hardware, game, and/or ip banned? has anything been said about this yet?
rare apex
How do you even over enchant?
crystal beacon
Just having a lot of enchants lol
granite arrow
He said in TTT's interview that its a guaranteed success up till a point
Then its rng
steady ocean
@hasty moss https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Security_systems
slow sky
@hasty moss not specified on which type iirc but they will be punished if caught
hasty moss
@steady ocean already checked there, only says banned
rare apex
But thats just the risk vs reward aspect of it
steady ocean
That's what we know so far.
rare apex
If a armor piece or weapon's durability run out will it be broken or destroyed? Because i heard of repairing but wasnt sure if it can be destroyed as well
onyx knoll
@granite arrow I'd say keep an eye on the alpha when they show professions and leave comments on the forums if you see it ends up being pure rng. If enough people show a dislike for that system there's still plenty of time for them to change it 🙂
boreal abyss
@rare apex broken
steady ocean
you just cannot equip it @rare apex
boreal abyss
it will only be destroyed if its durability is 1/1 and its broken again afaik
steady ocean
@hasty moss It looks like you can reforge destroyed gear for a material cost, so they are not lost forever
granite arrow
Yeap. Personally, as long as the item isn't completely gone I think I'll be ok. In BDO, all your hardwork gets flushed down t he drain without anything to show for it if rng decides against you.
hasty moss
?
boreal abyss
each time you reforge, durability goes down
ex:
- 100/100
- 70/70
- 40/40 etc
granite arrow
That's also fine too
slow sky
@rare apex If an item reaches 0 durability it is automatically unequipped and will need repairs to be usable again
granite arrow
I think he meant to ping me @hasty moss lol
hasty moss
ah probably
crystal drum
The devs have discussed the possibility of making some components of the UI customizable. We will need to wait and see though
@steady ocean Thanks for the answer, sory for late reply. I asked the question and I completely forgot and went do something else.
steady ocean
check the link i just posted @rare apex @hasty moss
agile quartz
In regards to Guilds, will you be able to view a guild's allies and enemies on the Guild screen UI somewhere or will they be hidden, and that you can only see your guild's allies and enemies?
rare apex
I saw it thx @steady ocean
onyx knoll
@agile quartz we haven't seen any of the guild UI as far as I know so hard to tell
boreal abyss
@agile quartz if you mean a list over allied guilds and guilds you are at war with, I'd assume so
agile quartz
@boreal abyss yeah that i mean, that's good to know, thanks!
@onyx knoll Yeah true, hopefully we get to know about that when there is more information for the guild UI and whatnot
rich monolith
Is there going to be some kind of race-element type for creatures that makes them resistant or weak to certain type of damage like in RO?
onyx knoll
we know there will be elemental damage and resistances for players, but I don't think they specified if it will have any impact for pve
steady ocean
Since there are different element types, I think we can assume that creatures may have certain resistances. For example a fire elemental may be expected to resist fire magic. We may need to wait for the Alphas to come out to be certain though. It's important to remember much of the game is based of DnD and other MMOs which have these types of mechanics though
I'll write it down to ask though to see if we can get an answer from the dev team.
@dark jungle Probably a good one to add to your request for info list as well
frail wedge
Hey Just signed up. Is this in alpha? Or soonish?
frail wedge
So its alpha 1 to access?
oak depot
@frail wedge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
onyx knoll
Alpha 1 starts in fall but you currently can't buy access to it anymore. You can buy into alpha 2 by getting some of the pre-order packs available on the official website
tacit prairie
@onyx knoll any idea when is Alpha 2?
quartz cove
I have a question pertaining to the processing portion of the artisan classes. Will there be more processing classes outside of animal husbandry and smelting? or are those the only two?
frail wedge
@onyx knollcheers
onyx knoll
@tacit prairie we don't have a specific date yet. It'll be after alpha 1 🤷♂️ People are guessing maybe 6-8 months after when alpha 1 starts
@quartz cove Probably more? Those two are the two confirmed ones, but they should be releasing the full crafting stuff sometimes during alpha 1 so we'll be able to see then
tacit prairie
@onyx knoll o ok, that kinda sucks. Paid the 375 and have to wait 8 months. It is what it is. can't wait tho.
quartz cove
thats what i was thinking since it looked kind of weird that their was only 2 processing classes
onyx knoll
@tacit prairie Yeah, the game has gotten an insane amount of hype considering how far from launch we still are lol, hopefully people keep that energy going! ^^
tacit prairie
yup yup
oak depot
@onyx knoll https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Materials#List_of_processed_goods_.28materials.29 lists Eggs and Milk as processed goods. Doesn't that indicate another processing class would be livestock tending or someting? I assume getting animals to produce milk or lay eggs is separate from animal husbandry dealing with animal raising and breeding.
onyx knoll
@oak depot Honestly I'm a bit confused personally at animal husbandry being considered a processing job, as I would have put it in "crafting", and have something like what you're talking about be in the processing category. They could be just different branch of the same skill tree tho, so maybe animal husbandry will include livestock, it's a bit early to say at the moment. I'm really looking forward to more in depth info about the crafting ^^
rapid marsh
During which alpha build do you guys think that secondary classes will be available for testing?
onyx knoll
secondary will be added in alpha 2
alpha 1 will have the level cap be 20, and secondary are added at lvl 25, so deff not happening there 😛
lavish crow
will there be a seasonal pass ? like archeage unchained
onyx knoll
no
only content you can buy with the cash shop is cosmetic items
well I guess they haven't clearly, specifically said there would be no battle pass, and I don't know what it is in Archeage, but the way they're talking about the cash shop i highly doubt it
They also said there would be no "log-in goodies"
so no rewards for just logging in every day, which I guess would probably include something like a battle pass
oak depot
@onyx knoll also, I though Peon’s video mentioned processing wood into planks as a “processing” class. I believe the term would be “milling”.
“Wood Milling” I guess as you can mill wheat into flour as well in the real world
onyx knoll
yeah that would make sense. It's clearly missing some kind of food-related processing job in that list so I've just been assuming we don't have a complete list yet 🙂
oak depot
Animal Husbandry could be “processing” if Animal Training is a crafting one. Although Peon’s video I believe mentioned animal husbandry as a gathering class
ruby swift
Yep, Lex only puts in confirmed mentions. If they haven't specifically called it something, it isn't there.
slow sky
Animal Husbandry is a Processing Profession
ruby swift
Milk that bull!
onyx knoll
Taming is the gathering profession related to animals, and yeah Animal husbandry is classified as processing from what we know so far
lavish crow
@onyx knoll thanks for ur answer
forest pike
Would the node location influence the layout of structures in a metropolis?
onyx knoll
@forest pike Not sure, they haven't shown a lot of large nodes and how they evolve, so it's a bit hard to say at the moment. We do know that mayors will be able to assign tax money to build stuff so maybe those builds will be what mostly affects layout? We also know that the architecture itself will be affect by which race contributes the most to the growth
vale marlin
I wonder whether character creation will be similar to BDO or just choose from existing models
onyx knoll
Steven has said the he wants their character creator to be "like BDO's, but even better"
silent pilot
I wonder if there will be poisons or some kind of class that can use poisons in some way, or something that deals damage per second similarly to poison.
onyx knoll
I believe poison as a damage source has been confirmed but let me make sure
rich kraken
looking at how far we are from launch, i feel like the hype is mostly people wanting something actual fun to play (especially now with covid-19 being a thing). wonder how if/ and how this will affect aoc.
onyx knoll
@silent pilot Mhh, it might just be something someone mentioned in passing, I can't find any official source. We do know there will be elemental damage so maybe poison will be one of them
silent island
@onyx knoll i think he told something about keeping it simple?
im not sure
im talking about the character creator
silent pilot
Oh Thanks. 😃
onyx knoll
He spoke about it in the recent AMA;
onyx knoll
@forest pike https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Character_creator
crystal beacon
Question about preorder ....
(...) In addition to the cosmetic items granted with the Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack at the time of purchase, you will also be entitled to purchase future monthly cosmetics as add-ons for the Voyager Plus Level Pre-Order Pack and below. Pre-Order Pack cosmetics are only available during the month they are featured, and will never be available again for purchase. (...)
What does that mean ?
onyx knoll
The cosmetic included in the packs change every month or so, so if you buy a pre-order pack you will be able to purchase the cosmetics on their own later for reduced price
drowsy cosmos
I was looking on the wiki and notice that their are some attributes that I've never seen in a game before and would like those explained if that's not asking too much? Or if those would even actually be in the game at all?
onyx knoll
(of the same tier you purchased the pack of)
ornate flint
Do we know what initially determines the type of node? In the interview with Timthetatman, Steven said that certain types of NCPs (i.e. military or faith-based NPCs) would appear at the early stages of a node's development.
Is there anything that determines what type of NPC appears in the early stages, or is it randomized?
crystal beacon
@onyx knoll is there a place where I can see the historical of all these packs ?
onyx knoll
@drowsy cosmos Are you talking about the magic attribute "planar" because we had an hilarious discussion about that yesterday xD
drowsy cosmos
@onyx knoll yes
onyx knoll
@drowsy cosmos Planar magic is Planar magic! basically we don't know yet what it means, some people are guessing temporal stuff like teleportation/black holes would be classified as planar
onyx knoll
@ornate flint The nodes are pre-determined and static, they will be the same type on every server
crisp holly
@rich kraken The community is guessing 2-3 years from now before a full launch
ornate flint
Ahh okay, tyvm!
crystal beacon
@onyx knoll I didn't get my pack yet lol. Hope I didn't already miss out on great cosmetix !! 🙂
arctic meadow
So, in nodes where people can vote for a Mayor. Will there be harsh punishments for vote buying schemes? Or can players set up laws that will result in punishment for buying votes. Any kind of things we can use to keep politics from becoming too corrupt and elections from being rigged?
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon I mean.... there were a lot of great ones already, but i'm sure there will be plenty of new amazing ones later too ^^
arctic meadow
This is a joke question btw.
wet escarp
Xenellia be putting in work for us scrubs, moderate this man plis
onyx knoll
xD
astral stag
Hey everyone! I would like to ask how many character slot will we have at the start and if more than 1 there will be a family system just like in bdo or i could expect something else?
drowsy cosmos
@arctic meadow that going to be alot of money
crystal beacon
@onyx knoll the 375$ pack is a real bargain ! There's so much stuff in it !
onyx knoll
@arctic meadow I don't think this is a joke question at all! People rigging elections is a concern, but only 1 of the four type of nodes works with popular votes
slow sky
"a comfortable amount" is the only answer we have received on that end @astral stag
drowsy cosmos
@arctic meadow elections are every 30days you basicly going to be grinding for money every month
onyx knoll
@astral stag We don't have an exact number on how many alts you will have, but people are guessing 8 (1 for each archetype), that isn't confirmed tho
slow sky
@astral stag also there is a family system but this can include your friends up to a maximum of 8 people
cloud acorn
From the way Mage seems to work. If I double class into mage, I should be able to Elemental augment to get most of my spells to me fire. Is this correct?
slow sky
unknown, but a high possibility. makes sense to me
drowsy cosmos
i wish they had some kind of Monk Class
onyx knoll
@astral stag The initial idea behind the family system is as a way to help people find a dungeon group and summon them to dungeons since you can get a very high cooldown summon for your family members
wet escarp
can we see which augments are being implemented yet?
crystal beacon
@drowsy cosmos I wish it had the same restriction it did in Everquest if there was one ahaha 🙂
slow sky
not currently
astral stag
Thank you very much for answers guys!
wet escarp
all i know is mage has a teleport augment
onyx knoll
@wet escarp we don't have a list of augments, expect it sometimes around alpha 2 since that is when they will be testing secondary
wet escarp
and rogue goes stealthy
slow sky
@wet escarp mage has been mentioned to have a Teleport and Elemental augment and thats really as far as we know for augments
onyx knoll
@drowsy cosmos Unfortunately as far as we know they don't intent to add "fist" weapons but that could change
wet escarp
so if i were to go rogue into mage with teleport augments does that mean most my abilities can teleport to my targets? 😛
onyx knoll
@wet escarp potentially! If you want to discuss potential application of augments I recommend you head over to #aoc-discussion
slow sky
@wet escarp unknown but im hoping just like you as someone who's looking to go Nightspell
drowsy cosmos
@onyx knoll that would be amazing don't really need fist probably just a staff and a nice cloud mount
astral stag
So characters wont be connected to eachother (like in black desert online) and you can join to different guilds with your alts. Did i understand it right? What about the warehouse system?
rich kraken
@crisp holly exactly, so pretty far away from the here and now, meaning a long wait. guess we will have to wait and see.
onyx knoll
@astral stag Yes your alts can join different guilds, your "warehouse" will be your housing, in which you can build chests that are account wide. You share your housings with all your alts
slow sky
@astral stag character alts in a way will be connected as your free hold is limited to 1 per account but other than using that for facilities yes they can join other guilds
astral stag
Thank you very much guys, i really appreciate your work and time!
onyx knoll
o7
wet escarp
man 2-3 years until launch and im already sold and unpatient
guess ill grind tekken until then
slow sky
be sure to check out your favorite streamers in the category once the game releases NDA with its upcoming Alpha 1
drowsy cosmos
2-3 years gives me time to upgrade my computer to fully handle that unreal 4
empty marsh
wet escarp
2k on a pc since closed beta 1
onyx knoll
Please clear this chat for questions, tyvm ❤️
gilded mortar
Hello guys ! I'm trying to learn more about the game, and I came upon this "Essence" mention in some lore videos. In some ways, it seems linked to the ability to manipulate magic, and when talking about it there is a lot this 4 kind of spikes in the landscape and on mobs :
do we know more about essences ?
I didn't find any page dedicated to essences in the wiki
slow sky
anything on the wiki is all we would really know publically, Lex tends to be really good about updating it with accurate info from when the devs mention it.
thin wigeon
isnt essence the in game premium currency
slow sky
Embers are
thin wigeon
some E word
slow meadow
Its basically magic. Though it may be more complicated, this is the best quote I know of describing it. More to be clarified later. @gilded mortar
thin wigeon
do we know anything about any kind of rank system for PVP?
drowsy cosmos
A1 is suppose to be at the end of the year. do we possibly have a idea how long A1 will be playable
onyx knoll
@thin wigeon We know there will be a ladder for Arenas
fading latch
@thin wigeon arena and guild ranking via sieges
slow sky
arenas will be ranked as well as guilds will have their own leaderboards for node/castle sieges
onyx knoll
@drowsy cosmos we don't know for exactly how long A1 will go for, it'll depend on how much time they feel they need to test what they want to test during that period
fair yew
Alpha 1 will mostly be intermittent testing
onyx knoll
that too
drowsy cosmos
@fair yew didn't know that
gilded mortar
thanks @slow meadow
thin wigeon
what about a way to find crafters like lets say you need a master blacksmith for (insert item here) will there be some kind of town board or is this gonna be old fashion global chat
fair yew
Alpha 2 is where we will start to see some static server up time
thin wigeon
having your name on a town board as a master crafter would be sick
slow sky
people can post services on the town board, there may be a node wide chat channel
onyx knoll
@thin wigeon There will be server-wide chats like a trade chat that could help you find people
normal bison
Do we know how things like mining will work? will it be along the line of a resource node that upgrades with the Node it is in or will it track the consumed resources from the resource node and change after reaching a specific amount consumed/gathered?
slow sky
@normal bison Gathering nodes once exhausted disappear and respawn in a completely new location, that could be on the other side of the world
normal bison
So, say you are in a mountain Node and you are mining, will there be a greater chance of mining resource nodes spawning in the mountains and surrounding regions so that there will be mining based economies in nearby Nodes? Basically making it harder to exhaust the resource over a general area without a heavily concerted effort to do so?
drowsy cosmos
as for the professions to my understanding your only able to master one.... meaning if i choose a gathering profession ill have to find someone to craft it but what's unclear is the processing can anyone shead light on that
slow sky
and as a node levels up and dungeons are uncovered there is the potential for ore veins to be discovered which can gather more quantities of items before being exhausted
onyx knoll
@drowsy cosmos You can master a branch of the artisan tree, so for exemple, gathering. Then, within that branch, you'll be able to master a certain amount of smaller branch, so like, mining, herbing, lumberjack. We doN,t have a number on how many you'll be able to master.
normal bison
Ok thanks! that sounds really good!
slow sky
currently you can master all of them under your given tree but this is always subject to change with testing and feedback
saw a community poll that really liked the idea of only being able to master 1 profession under 1 tree
onyx knoll
@drowsy cosmos Processing is basically.... You gather iron ore, take it to a processor, the processor smelts it into an iron bar, then you can take it to a crafter and have him turn it into a sword
drowsy cosmos
@onyx knoll ok i had a feeling that was the answer and I'm guessing this processor wouldn't by chance be a NPC
slow sky
no processing is its own artisan tree players can take
onyx knoll
rich monolith
There is going to be a finity number of resources so, does it mean that it will be a limit for crafteable items (weapons, armors, etc)
?
merry mango
It says some
grizzled latch
Resources respawn, some of the legendary ones won't but common ones will
slow sky
that must be pretty new info then
onyx knoll
@rich monolith It's not a finite amount of resources, the resources just respawn in other random locations
slow sky
and like i said it's always subject to change, we'll have plenty of time to offer up feedback on the systems
crystal beacon
Can I get to an island if i don’t have a boat?
slow sky
you can, if you have a water mount most likely
crystal beacon
Water mount?
slow sky
there will be mounts for the water
crystal beacon
Ah yes
onyx knoll
Mh, actually @dark jungle should we change the wiki entry on artisan job mastery following this quote from Steven the other day?
crystal beacon
Common sense would tell me that
cursive dirge
I wouild think the otter mount or a fish mount could do that
crisp holly
From the 4k video it also looked like you could swim or am I wrong on that?
dark jungle
@onyx knoll that was already added
slow sky
kickstarter stretch goal has a weird turtle looking water mount for backers
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon You could also swim 🤷♂️
@dark jungle Ohh shit my bad, I must have missed it, ignore me 😄
dark jungle
the wiki is up to date
crystal beacon
You right. Do all the individual islands have nodes?
Is there a map with nodes on it yet?
keen grotto
I thought the artisan restrictions made is so that you could only by a master of one thing in one of the three domains ie master miner can’t be a master blacksmith
slow sky
node placement is unknown but there may be
solemn finch
Have they said what classes will be available for alpha 1? I assume they might not even show subclasses. But I’d really like to see how base summoner looks like
steady ocean
@crystal beacon Not yet
Just the primary archetypes @solemn finch
Primary + secondary during alpha 2
slow sky
subclasses most likely will make it into Alpha 2
solemn finch
But that would mean I at least get to see summoner?
steady ocean
That's correct, just not how the augments affect the primary skills
slow sky
if someone streams summoner definitely
fickle island
Alpha 1 is level capped too, at 20 I believe.
slow sky
correct
solemn finch
I think I go way too ham on thinking what the subclasses will end up like. When I think of warlock, I think of WOW. When I think necromancer. I think guild wars 2. So I guess I’m just hoping that they’re actually a lot like that in this game.
fickle island
So well likely see gameplay from all 8 archetypes to 20 by the end.
solemn finch
Base class will still be cool. Cause we get to see their updated combat system. At least somewhat I hope
slow sky
alpha 1 will be the first test of their hybrid combat system
fickle island
Also keep in mind it's the first stage of alpha anyone who's played an alpha -> release knows how drastic the changes can be.
crystal beacon
Can I refer to Protectors as Druids hence forward ?
And if not, who are the druids ?
Does anyone have an estimate about how many people will be participating in Alpha2 this fall?
slow sky
a lot
slow sky
^
crisp holly
Alpha 1 is going to be 10k people
slow sky
Alpha 1 is not going to be 10K
crystal beacon
Wait wait wait. So is this fall the alpha where only kickstarted backers are playing?
crisp holly
And Alpha 2 will have a lot more than that
solemn finch
Alpha 1 about to give us stuff to talk about for another 6 months till the next alpha
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon yes
slow sky
Kickstarter backers and anyone who bought an Alpha 1 pre-order before they stopped being sold
onyx knoll
plus a few early pack buyers
crisp holly
I thought A1 numbers were projected to be 10k people split up among multiple servers?
solemn finch
Question: since there’s 9 races, and 8 classes. Which class would y’all put with each race. Based off looks alone of the race and theme of the class
slow sky
every class Tulnar
main mason
races ae not class bound I believe
slow sky
crystal beacon
So if I were to buy the 250 voyager pack right now I will not get to participate on the Alpha this fall.
main mason
neither gender locked
slow sky
but thats getting into more discussion territory in which i gotta be a party pooper
Please keep this channel to Questions and Answers only. If you’re passionate about further discussion feel free to move to the lovely discussion channels #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion Thank you. 
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon correct, that gives you access to alpha 2 which will happen sometime probably next year, we don't have a date
slow sky
@crystal beacon correct, Alpha 2 is speculated for sometime 2021, most believe early spring
dense arrow
when iis the cut off date to get the 250 alpha 2 pack
slow sky
no cut off currently
intrepid will give significant time via an announcement before its cut off
dense arrow
Ty for the info. you guys rock for takeing time out to answer all these questions.
fair yew
They are processing a lot of tickets now give em time
slow sky
they are swamped with support tickets currently due to the recent addition of Leader of Men backers receiving NDA's and people upgrading their Kickstarter packaged to Leader of Men for that reason, also they had a major website issue yesterday which interfered with the process as well
west turtle
Will players from eu using mycom still obtain the stuff in inventory bundles from intrepid etc on release?
slow sky
yes there will be a transfer to get your items to EU
west turtle
Ty
crystal beacon
Man I have so many dumb questions lmao. I’ve been sitting here trying to think of something I can ask. What does the soundtrack sound like? Is it going to be as memorable as things like ORSR or other games from my childhood?
west turtle
Look youtube its there
onyx knoll
@crystal beacon the official soundtrack will be released during the beta, it's composed by Bear McCreary
You might know him as the composer for the God of War music, or Assassin's Creed Syndicate
slow sky
he did lots of music for the Walking Dead too
supple yarrow
Is a stable a requirement to breed animals within the animal husbandry profession?
slow sky
afaik yes
onyx knoll
@supple yarrow As far as we know, yes
crystal beacon
Xenillia can you tell me your personal opinions about the the game?
Its cool if you cant lol
onyx knoll
replied in #aoc-discussion 🙂
raw shuttle
quick question regarding people that like to collect achievment/mounts etc
I just read in the wiki that there are unique mounts/achievments/etc that you can get from playing apoc that will carry over to the mmo, so because one didnt participate in the apoc battle royal one has already lost achievments/mounts/etc that will be impossible to obtain through playing the mmo but other people have them in the mmo? did I read that right?
onyx knoll
@raw shuttle APOC should be coming back later when they flesh out the combat a bit more, it's basically their combat testing platform
solemn finch
Very possible. But i have heard someone mention that they’ll bring apoc back sometime
raw shuttle
in the timeline it says the castle siege and horde mode will come back but the battle royale testing has as good as ended completely
onyx knoll
That being said, there is a lot of things that are just available for short period of time and if you don't get them when they're there then yes, you lose out on them. They are big on rewarding individuals and are very much against the "everyone is the hero" mentality so there will be people that will get stuff you won't get, I don't think it'll be possible to collect EVERYTHING
slow sky
Apoc is coming back after Alpha 1 with Siege/Horde modes
raw shuttle
but having people play essentially another game years before the mmo even comes out and even have some unlockable stuff behind a "legendary path" paywall is a little bit icky
supple palm
Do bards have a way to freeplay their instrument like in LotrO?
jaunty gazelle
but having people play essentially another game years before the mmo even comes out and even have some unlockable stuff behind a "legendary path" paywall is a little bit icky
@raw shuttle what are u talking about?
raw shuttle
read my previous message
onyx knoll
@raw shuttle it's just skins, so not actual mounts with stats. I know it can be disappointing for collectors (trust me, I'm one), but APOC isn't really a different game, it's a mode of the game they're actually even thinking of adding to the actual MMO later
They just want to reward people that are willing to help them test stuff
jaunty gazelle
quick question regarding people that like to collect achievment/mounts etc
I just read in the wiki that there are unique mounts/achievments/etc that you can get from playing apoc that will carry over to the mmo, so because one didnt participate in the apoc battle royal one has already lost achievments/mounts/etc that will be impossible to obtain through playing the mmo but other people have them in the mmo? did I read that right?
@raw shuttle to be fair, there are mounts, titles and achievments that are exclusive for kickstarter donors, i, for instance, wont have that because i bought the acess to help the devs via intrepid store
steven confirmed that apoc is an engine test for the combat system in the mmo
raw shuttle
cant look it up right now because the wiki is down but I am 99% sure the quote from steven said "mounts" and not "mount skins"
jaunty gazelle
because a br is easy to develop
see it this way: what they are getting are not obtainable in game. It's not like they are offering something that can be conquered through effort via money, capiche?
onyx knoll
@raw shuttle it's all cosmetic only ^^
jaunty gazelle
using the cash shop as example
cash shop skins are skins exclusive to the cash shop and not obtainable ingame in anyway
steady ocean
@jaunty gazelle What is your question? You are not going to be able to own everything that is/was available in the game
jaunty gazelle
ingame skins =/= cash shop skins
@jaunty gazelle What is your question? You are not going to be able to own everything that is/was available in the game
@steady ocean my question? none, i was answering blauer
raw shuttle
@onyx knoll further down it gives statements that more than only cosmetics will be offered, either its contradictory information or I picked it up wrong
still cant access the wiki to lookl it up
jaunty gazelle
mounts are cosmetic rewards blauer, they won't have stats, except flying mounts that are only obtainable via in game progression
raw shuttle
mounts are in no way shape or form cosmetic rewards
steady ocean
Mounts will have stats @jaunty gazelle
still coral
So if i buy the $250 pack how do i know it active
jaunty gazelle
what will be offered in the cash shop and via packs for the people helping development are not obtainable in game, ergo, not part of the game progression, so it's not pay 2 win in anyway
steady ocean
skins have no stat buffs to mounts though
onyx knoll
Mhh, I'm looking through it and I don't see anything... Listening to the Livestream where they mentionned it now, I think I can understand the confusion, Steven has the bad habit of mentioning "mounts" sometimes without the added "skins" tag, but he's specified a few times that everything redeemable thought the rewards are actually just skins
jaunty gazelle
Mounts will have stats @jaunty gazelle
@steady ocean so it will be mount skins that will be offered. It was stated several times that it will not have any pay 2 win. Profit will come via skins and subscription
raw shuttle
alright that answeres my question then, thanks for the answer
jaunty gazelle
subscription model is the best way to do an MMO, more players more money.
stable plover
@still coral There will be emails and announcements in news whenever it's eventually time for A2 to start. You can view things in your account with the 'view inventory' button on this page https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/profile
jaunty gazelle
i have a question: they confirmed nicknames having surnames?
still coral
thanks
steady ocean
@jaunty gazelle yes I made the distinction after that
jaunty gazelle
Like eso, for example...
onyx knoll
@raw shuttle Anytime, I saw the quote you mentioned where it just says mount so I understand why you were worried but I'm fairly certain it will only be mount skins, not actual mounts with stats
steady ocean
I think @raw shuttle is thinking of https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse_adventure_paths
stable plover
Mounts do have stats, but the mount skins from the shop use the stats of the mount they are applied to.
still coral
if i buy the $250 pack next month can i buy the cosmetics that are in $350 pack
onyx knoll
@steady ocean this is the quote he's talking about i believe
stable plover
@still coral no, you can only buy individual cosmetics from your pack and the cheaper packs
onyx knoll
as I said, Steven sometimes mention mount skins without the "skins" word attached 😛
steady ocean
@still coral You can only purchase this month's cosmetics during the cycle it is active. If you wait for the next cosmetic pack, you will only get skins from that pack
still coral
okay thanks
raw shuttle
I was talking about both, the quote where he says "mounts" only and the "legendary path" which I also assumed give mounts/achievments based on my previous assumption
jaunty gazelle
greypelt, do you know?
steady ocean
It says in the last sentence that those are skins, so that should clear it up if that is the quote he is looking at
stable plover
@still coral You might want to look here for more details https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs#Pre-order_pack_information
@jaunty gazelle I haven't quite caught the question yet
onyx knoll
@stable plover Tldr; are the "mounts" reward mentioned in the APOC rewards and Legendary Path only skins? Some quotes from Steven mention only mounts so there is some confusion and I can't find a quote that absolutely confirms they are skins
stable plover
The mounts from APOC are skins
onyx knoll
Well, here you have it @raw shuttle ^^ I hope this helps!
raw shuttle
yeah thanks for the answer
but I have a new question regarding those skins: are they unique per mode? for example you get a blue axe cosmetic for participating in the br mode, a red one for siege, etc or a "fixed bundle" so to speak?
steady ocean
@stable plover Was the adventure paths an active system during Apoc testing?
oak depot
is Ashes of Creation: Apocalypse still happening or has it's passed it's time by now?
steady ocean
It's not an active game mode currently @oak depot
stable plover
@steady ocean The adventure path worked during APOC testing if that's the question
jaunty gazelle
@jaunty gazelle I haven't quite caught the question yet
@stable plover will the game allow multiple name nicknames like eso or is it one name only like wow?
onyx knoll
@raw shuttle Uuh, that I'm not sure, I haven't look into APOC that much, sorry 😦
stable plover
@jaunty gazelle There are first names and optional last names, you can pick the one that displays above your head
steady ocean
I'm trying to determine if that adventure system was specifically for testers or meant for the live game as I think this ties into what @raw shuttle was talking about
raw shuttle
I think its unique skins per chapter, found the answer to my question
steady ocean
@raw shuttle Check this page as I think it relates to what you are asking, scroll down a bit under the weapon concept art https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse_adventure_paths
onyx knoll
@steady ocean that was just for APOC it won't be in the live MMO, I'm pretty sure
steady ocean
At least at the time, Steven had meant Apoc to be tested in the Alphas and Betas, and allowing people to accrue the rewards for testing
from the quotes I'm seeing on the wiki
I think that was before the delay in the game, back when the Alphas/Betas were going to happen in 2018
raw shuttle
@steady ocean yeah but I think, please correct me someone if Im wrong, the first chapter and therefore 15-20 cosmetics are now forever gone with the end of the br mode that, according to the timeline on the wiki, wont be coming back
onyx knoll
@raw shuttle That sounds right, yeah
steady ocean
I've heard it may be coming back to test the castle siege mechanics, but that is just a rumor and I'd need to get a quote
onyx knoll
If APOC comes back they'll probably have an other set of cosmetics
so the ones from the previous tests are most likely gone, but idk for sure
raw shuttle
yeah that is what I mean with that
stable plover
Note: I don't think the APOC cosmetics were promised as exclusives like the pre-order cosmetics are, so they could say turn up in the in game store someday.
steady ocean
Adventure path for Alpha/Beta testers
This is what makes me wonder if Apoc will make another appearance due to the quote around Alpha/Beta testers
But I'll drop it for now and maybe ask in a megathread to see if there is some clarification so we can update the wiki
stable plover
@steady ocean We expect APOC to return with (at least) Castle Siege / Horde mode at some point after A1
steady ocean
Cool, that's what I've been led to believe and would make the most sense, as most of the class mechanics will be in place.
oak depot
Does anyone know what kind of AI or ML they are using in the game? It would be really neat if Raid bosses would learn tactics from attacking teams to some degree... and since AoC is over-achieving in so many fields, why not in AI-controlled and refined bosses
steady ocean
oak depot
Thanks... but still doesn't say what type of AI. Many people see AI and think human-like-tactics, but instead it turns out it's a simple rule system. Not sure if it's a trade secret or not but I'm hoping they have some form of hierarchical reinforcement learning.
steady ocean
I doubt they will have a type of machine learning that would develop it's tactics against players
onyx knoll
they were discussion that on the forums a few days ago, so I'm sure we'll get more info on what they decide to do down the road for AI
simple pecan
I'm interested in tank as a primary archetype, but I'm concerned they might not be viable in PvP 1v1.
broken lodge
Will I have to be good at aiming to be the best in PvP in this game? In order to do hard CC?
clear sedge
So I was watching the last ama and Steven mentioned someone about releasing a character creator before the game so everyone can design their characters, has this been actually confirmed that it will be release or just trying to get it ?
steady ocean
@broken lodge Aim will play a factor as at least 25% of your skills will be action skills
@clear sedge With how much Steven wants it in pre-launch I would bet it will be available
broken lodge
I mean, do I need to be good at reticle aiming to be a top dog in pvp?
steady ocean
@broken lodge You will need to be skilled with it yes, as head shots are similar to a crit
simple pecan
It should be pretty rough telegraphing. No too precise.
clear sedge
@steady ocean I mean I don't know much about gaming programming but wouldn't it be easy to make the character creator a separate system once it's completed?
broken lodge
yea, that would be a fail mechanic
that'll piss off every tab targeter who wants to be good at pvp lol
dapper smelt
Does anyone know what the leveling experience is like with consideration for the second archetype? Do you level your primary archetype to 25 and then "start over" leveling your secondary archetype so its like two 1-25 leveling experiences or is more like a 1-50 experience but your skill acquisition is different 26-50?
steady ocean
@broken lodge adapt or fall behind is the way things are and have always been.
broken lodge
OK FREN! ILL GO PRACTICE MUH CALL OF DUTY RITE NOW
steady ocean
@dapper smelt It will be based on a skill point system, check out https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Primary_skills for more detail
@broken lodge Or just focus on skills that are not action skills, as you can have up to 75% of your skills be one or the other
broken lodge
yes, but can you really be one of the BEST that way? When hard CC is dedicated to the CoD players?
onyx knoll
@dapper smelt we dont know for sure but from what has been mentionned i'm fairly certain your secondary doesnt level, so once you reach 25 you pick it then keep leveling as usual and you get points you can use to upgrade your skills as you level based on which secondary you pucked
steady ocean
@broken lodge We won't know till the game is released. You can always ask over in #aoc-discussion what the majority there think for more perspectives
versed delta
When is Beta planned?
stable plover
@dapper smelt There will be some sort of progression system attached to the secondary archetypes but we don't really have details about how that'll work yet.
@versed delta Alpha 1 will be near the end of this year, we don't have official dates/estimates for anything after that.
onyx knoll
@versed delta we have no date for beta, alpha 1 starts in fall then it'll be alpha 2 and then the betas
versed delta
ty ty
snow bane
hey guys what is yandere simulator
dapper smelt
@onyx knoll Thanks that makes sense. Otherwise, if you wanted to go through the process of changing your secondary archetype you would have to level 26-50 again. I wouldn't be against resetting(though ask me again when I want to change mine) as it would discourage meta chasing, but they have already said they want to discourage changing all the time, so I am not worried
onyx knoll
Yeah you'll be able to change your secondary by doing a quest which they said wouldnt be super simple, so you can't switch willy nilly mid dungeon or stuff like that
echo cape
Has this been confirmed that you will have to relevel 26-50 if you want to change your secondary archetype? Or speculation? @dapper smelt
onyx knoll
No he was saying that speculatively
echo cape
Oh ok 🙂 gotcha, thanks
onyx knoll
I dont believe it will be the case
lunar hollow
I've been hearing a lot of having in-game Voice Chat in Ashes of Creation, what are your plans for making this game accessible and playable for people who are impaired with hearing and/or speaking?
crystal beacon
So, you know how in FF14 there are the dark mages that just kinda stand still and cast.
Will there be a cello option for the Bard where he stands still and does big buffs/heals/damage
fair yew
I don’t know how much in game voice chat will be used but they have said they will have accessibility options for disabilities. Just not sure it it talked about chat
lunar hollow
I was wondering if they will use a TTS and STT.
fair yew
No mention as far as I know yet but it is a possibility
I doubt there will be a lot of standing around for bards. There may be a spell/song like that but it wouldn’t be something that you would continuously cast the whole fight. Not much has been gone over for bard though
At least not stationary
lunar hollow
I don't want it to for bards, it would limit people who are impaired to use those classes.
fair yew
Sorry was answering a different question
lunar hollow
Ooh
fair yew
The accessibility options would be available to all
stable plover
@lunar hollow There will still be normal MMO text chats. I'm inclined to just want to use text chat myself. I would expect there to be communities of people dedicated to things like raiding without voice chat to form as they have in other MMOs.
arctic meadow
Will a Mayor be too consumed with his mayoral duties in the town to go out and pve? Will the job as mayor for the month be harder and more time consuming with higher level nodes such as Metropolis’s?
solemn finch
It’s very possible that a mayor could be overwhelmed
Maybe they can get a salary to balance that out LOL
last oak
being a mayor you can relate to being a leader in a large guild you'd place officers to assist with running things.
solemn finch
^ this also is true
mortal stream
Hey guys, I really wanna buy into the super voyager pack, but I'd wanted to watch Alpha 1. Will there be another cosmetic pack after this one ends on the 5th?
Thanks for your time 🙂
steady ocean
Yes
mortal stream
Is this a better place for longer questions or would the forums be the best?
steady ocean
Feel free to ask. If it relates more to a discussion, it may be better to ask in #aoc-discussion
plain plinth
will AoC have a api?
steady ocean
Not one the devs will be making accessible to the public easily @plain plinth
iron breach
is there a location to get an updated client for Alfa 2 or Beta? please
iron breach
ok, thanks
steady ocean
The only way to get access to the Alpha 2 or Beta servers will be through the pre-order packs and you will need to wait until the game phases are released @iron breach https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
mortal stream
Mostly just after going over the forums, they stated that High End crafting gear would be made by world boss material drops. I know he's talked about crafting gear being the same as BIS legendary gear. My question is mainly will the high end craftable gear also need materials that are only available to master gatherers as well as the world boss materials. I'm mostly worried that if I focus on gathering, which I love, I'll hit a plateau because I can't easily access world boss materials
eternal glade
I have a little question regarding the 64 classes combination, how is the balance going to work because it seems hard to me to make all the variants as balanced as possible, even more so pvp wise
grim breach
Don't know. Wait until all of them are revealed and completed. Secondary archetypes will not come until Alpha 2.
steady ocean
@mortal stream We only know that there are high end materials from both raids and open world resources, so it will most likely be a combination
Also, the game is designed around group play, so try to find a guild as you will need to rely on others for materials and such
trim moon
@eternal glade Indeed, but its technically more like 8 classes with some flavor variation, so not like it is 64 completely different things
mortal stream
Thats what I was hoping. Like a 100x some ore, 15x wood, 15x random material, 15x world boss material
Instead of exclusively world boss materials
trim moon
And also, they are not balancing around 8 group of all classes together, not at 1v1 cenarios
Group play is everything in the game
raw shuttle
Also, the game is designed around group play, so try to find a guild as you will need to rely on others for materials and such
@steady ocean that is my main concern with artisan classes that are not gathering, why bother crafting yourself/with your friends a +1 sword when a person that gets raised as a guild crafter or is a streamer is already crafting a +5 one or even unique recipes, crafting will never be profitable for 99% of the playerbase as far as I see it
eternal glade
Ok yeah makes sense, that way its way easier to get everyone the chance to shine at different things and not only picking this variation or the other one for everything
trim moon
@eternal glade exactly, every class has a specific role within pvp and pve
but still, balancing can be rough on so many variations
mortal stream
@raw shuttle My worries exactly. Going to be such a guild heavy crafting scene. As a small group of like maybe 8 if we get there I'm worried my friends and I will be able to keep up without selling ourselves to some guild
steady ocean
It sounds like a really good discussion that you can ask in #aoc-discussion I'm sure others have some good perspectives on the topic
trim moon
@mortal stream But a small group of casuals should be able to keep up with a full large guild?
mortal stream
@trim moon No of course not haha but I'd hate to not be able to at least be competitive somewhat on the market. Ofcourse we will be joining some guild on whatever server we play on lol
eternal glade
Following the topic, I know that the game is made around 8 player parties, so they encourage players to play with the 8 different archetypes. So I was wondering, coming from popular mmos like WoW, are there going to be class specific buffs to appeal having all the different classes in a 8 man, 16 man group etc... If not do you think it would be a bonus to give such thing to players?
trim moon
@eternal glade Yes. Steven has given the example of the rogue, that will be able to find secret traps and doors in dungeons/raids
steady ocean
remember discussions should be in #aoc-discussion
eternal glade
Ok yes you just reminded me he said that in a video, then that is really cool thanks
dusky pasture
Will there be a full support class type in the game? tried looking on google , wiki, and q&a but can't find it.
trim moon
@dusky pasture the Minstrel (bard/bard), and Cardinal (cleric/cleric) are probably going to be full support
steady ocean
we will have a better idea in Alpha 2
crystal beacon
when I'm mayor of my node how am I going to make speeches or announcements to the people.
brisk roost
Are the plans to release on console considering all the things PS5 and Series X bring to the table?
steady ocean
No consoles currently in the works
@crystal beacon there may be limited proximity voice chat
steady ocean
There will be bulletin boards the mayor can use to post node quests @crystal beacon https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bulletin_boards
trim moon
@dusky pasture But to complement my answer, players will have a lot of choices beyond just their base archetype, like which skills to upgrade, your secondary archetype, the augments you choose and your talents.
So full support will be a choice, not determined exclusively by your primary archetype/class