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will weapons have scabbards or be "flying" like in most MMOs ?
if i get Voyager Pre-Order Package can i buy next months skins and if so can i get skins from the Voyager Plus like the player skins
There will be weapon sheathing
Weapons will be displayed on your character when not in use. Currently not in game, is quality of life issue, not critical, but planned.
Will bards be able to play music in taverns
no, bards will not be a downtime skill
What about fashion, what is known about it so far?
how will they balance weapons and armor in the arena and the battleground i mean like gear score or nobody will have gear and only skills ? sorry for the bad English
Has there been any movement on getting people back on the forums? Still can't log in. =/
@clear sedge yes, you can change any cosmetics or items in game with dyes so far
It is almost 3am their time. Doubt you will see a resolution soon.
Hmmm okay good
if i buy a Voyager Plus Pre-Order Pack when do i receive the ingame time? on official release or does it start when i buy it? or wot?
it starts from when you login for the first time when servers go live.... considering it could be late 2021/2022 before the game is even ready as far as i know there is no set release date yet
@outer tree
no alpha does not count or beta
since we are "helping" them refine/fine tune the game i.e the purposes of alpha/betas
any ETA on when alpha starts?
just play it by ear @outer tree i keep asking about class blogs as it was menthioned 6+ months ago coming soon... but still nothing π¦
@outer tree most up to date info is Fall 2020 https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule
does the pre-order pack cosmetics change every month?
so if i buy the july2020 one it becomes exclusive
and only people who bought it in july 2020 can get it?
@outer tree unless those cosmetics come back again, yes that is the case
when did the first pack come out?
And of course those who are Kickstarters, or people who have purchased previous packs can buy the cosmetics individually.
what month
May 2017 was Kickstarter and the first wave of cosmetics. The complete list is on the wiki.
ok ty
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs better shows pack by pack
as long as you click into the history of the packs, or on the "Intrepid Pre-Order Pack" sublinks
Yeah I was just looking at that. Way cooler than the swamp stuff
But itβs all good. If they intend to sell cosmetics they need to look cool, so there will be good ones in the future π
Please try and keep this channel to questions about the game. #aoc-discussion is available if you want to talk about it
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Backpacks trying to understand what this refers to for the player... surely one backpack (not referring to Quality of slot amount) would allow any items in it but the article states you have different backpacks for things... does that mean I have to go back to my house to equip a certain type ?
how will they balance weapons and armor in the arena and the battleground i mean like gear score or nobody will have gear and only skills ? sorry for my bad English
any of the bundles that were in sell will ever be back in sale?
@white sequoia Backpacks are how you expand your characters inventory space, kinda like WoW does it. you will be able to hide the backpack model if you really want to as well
its more about what i can store not the show hide function it made it sound like i can only put x items in the gathering bag vrs a "normal" backpack etc
yes, so the example of gatherables Vs consumables and items. There will be a specific backpack that herb, ores, wood etc will go into, and then a different backpack for monster drops
so can u have both on your back at the same time.....
it looks like you will be able to have a backpack on one of your back slots, and another on your belt (hip) slot. so you could potentially have 2 gatherers backpacks, or 1 gatherer 1 adventurers, or 2 adventurers
if thats the case then that would be fine, would hate to think i need to return to x location to equip one then go back out cheers for answer
Imagine seeing this ship on the shore 
was that a past sale?
@tropic abyss #aoc-discussion if you want to discuss about the game
@waxen pagoda yes it was a past sale
How does artisan skills work? Just a cast time to make/process the item with the materials in your inventory?
How does artisan skills work? Just a cast time to make/process the item with the materials in your inventory?
@slim bluff We don't have many details on how the crafting mechanics will actually work in game yet
Okay thanks!
is there any info about Battleground and Arenas how they will balance the gear ?
When making a name will you have 1 name or 2 names on your character?
You have to have a first name and you can choose to have a second name if you like @tawdry forum
is there any info about Battleground and Arenas how they will balance the gear ?
@random pilot no info right now, sorry
Guys I have heard that you are able to play on a combat-less class who only does professions? Firstly, is this true? Secondly, how would this work?
@random pilot for pvp, there isn't different gear or stat changes compared to PvE. it's unknown if they are going to "standardise" arenas or battlegrounds
@frank granite you can focus 100% on artisan skills if you want, however, combat may be required to defend yourself against monsters if you were, for example, gathering metal ore in a dungeon
those cosmetics look way to fkng good wtf
if you just sit in town and craft i guess.
Steven told in one of the interviews with streamers that you're able to put blacksmith or stables in your freehold. Are they able to achieve the same level compared to in-node blacksmiths and stables?
is Face of Sorrow unavailable now?
@charred hearth it was part of the march 2020 pre-order pack which is no longer available
ah
How many information will be able to be seen in game (hp, lvl, class, etc.)?
Each month will be exclusive and will never come back in game again for pre order packs
@rare apex there are facilities available in towns, but only if the city mayor decides to have them built
But are town facilities way more advanced than freehold facilities?
Or are you able to create the same advanced facilities?
@rare apex unknown at this point. your freehold will always have the facilities you put in it however
is there a self defense system, like, if you were to get attacked first and then you hit back and kill him, will your corruption go up ?
is there a self defense system, like, if you were to get attacked first and then you hit back and kill him, will your corruption go up ?
@dreamy harbor You won't gain corruption if you kill in self-defence
@dreamy harbor if you're not flagged, you will not get corruption. if someone attacks you, they are flagged, and you are able to flag back to kill them. when 2 flagged players fight, there is no corruption
only if a flagged player kills a non flagged player, does corruption happen
but what if you're green and a combatant attacks you and you kill him, do you become a combatant too ? or is the system long term, as in, you have to kill more than once for it to go up?
As soon as you fight back you become a combatant
If a non-combatant attacks a corrupt player, the non-combatant will not flag as a combatant.
but if they're not corrupt you have to flag to attack them
Combatants arent a bad thing, if you die as one you loss less than being a non combatant
@idle siren What's your thoughts on PvE balance at skill-capped level, in terms of dps?
As in, do you think all classes should deal roughly the same dps given that they use the perfection rotation of spells?
Also, will there be a built-in dmg meter? Please say yes. A dmg meter is insanely valuable in terms of weeding out the baddies
Whis Jahlon such a nice guy?
@strong void
- Pinging Steven won't do anything, he probably won't respond
- Class balance will be done based on the group, so it's unlikely that every class will do the same dps in a fight
- There will be no dps meter or addons allowed in Ashes
@full badger do you happen to know if the UI will be customizable even without addons ?
(By that I mean rearrange stuff around)
Yes, the UI is designed to be fully modular and customisable
Yes ^
@sinful sand yes it will be
Noice
There will not be a dmg meter? Then how are you even supposed to min max, or tell a good player from a bad one, or know if you yourself is doing well?
And I was so hyped for this game as well. Not gonna play wihtout dmg meter
You'll have to figure that out on your own. Steven doesn't like addons of any kind, and he's the boss so there will be no addons
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I like dps meters to be able to get better and to feel if I'm better than the rest of my group (dps-wise), but at the same time I think dps meters are a cancer for fun
There won't be addons, but perhaps we'll have sort of an internal combat log with charts and numbers ?
game should included it as an option
Yeah exactly
If you want to discuss dps meters more, please take the conversation down to #aoc-discussion
Is there ever a reset for node xp or could one person, if given enough time and undisturbed, level a node to level 6?
We don't know, but I doubt it because a single person wouldn't be able to keep up with the maintenance for a node on their own
@tough sierra nodes will be limited by their neighbours, getting to a lvl 6 node is going to take a loooooong time, so 1 person doing it isn't really going to happen
But theoretically
@tough sierra this is the current estimate for time frame
I'm moreso asking if node xp resets or degrades
nodes will get delevelled if they aren't constantly supplied with materials and gold, etc
what do you mean by flag ?
what do you mean by flag ?
@dreamy harbor PvP flagging
There id a upkeep on node
So to maintain a nodes level you have to keep putting resources or the node will delevel
Can't node are just unable to delevel anymore?
They are debating whether to remove that function or not, but for now it's in @true pebble
Think Steven mentionned something like that in a stream.
Johlon's (paradox gaming) interview from 8th july there is a section on it around 57min, not sure if there has been info since, but it was one thing they were keen to test.
@tough sierra it degrades over time
@full badger, @lilac lion we got that clarified
Only need Node XP to avoid entrophy
no materials needed
hi, any idea when braver of worlds are alowed to join π ?
@lofty verge fall this year
summer should it be
@lofty verge
hi, will there be a [non-tradable] farmable game-time token?
i searched here and there but there were no definite answer for what i want.
it was mentioned that there will not e tradable stuff from cash shop which is i see as a good thing tbh
what i want is non-tradable and maybe even limited (1 per month for example) token, because 15$ may not seem like a lot to you but due to exchange rates in my country,its quite a sum, i would not be able to continue playing wow if it was not because of wow tokens.
(i know he mentioned lower prices for region locked servers but that wont work me because i want to play with my friends on other countries and also join bigger guilds)
@fallen jetty There won't be a WoW Token equivalent for Ashes
Would it be possible to get someone into combatant state by simply walking into an AOE that they cast?
@full badger but what i asked for is not equivalent to wow token, because it is not tradable, can even work as a good money sink
@fallen jetty I agree, but Steven doesn't want anything like that in the game, so it won't be in the game
I'm just getting all caught up with all the AoC info, but I didn't see in any AMA or interview thus far what the plan is regarding how parties made up of largely level-divergent members would play like (or even be allowed/make-sense). I tend to play with my friends a lot but we also have different time-quantity availability so some of them tend to play a lot more than others. If after a week of playing some of our group is 10 or 20 levels higher than the rest, will we still be able to effectively play together?
Would it be possible to get someone into combatant state by simply walking into an AOE that they cast?
@lost loom aoe abilities don't flag someone for PvP, it has to be a direct hit
π
@oak depot There is no level scaling in Ashes, but as far as I know there are no restrictions on groups when it comes to varying character levels
@full badger sry, if i keep repeating myself, but its kinda my only hope to be able to play it continuously with my friends :)
was is specifically mentioned that it wont exist even in its non-tradable/limited form?
or it was just mentioned that wow token will not exist.
i should be at 0% hope? π
is there XP gain caps from level of monsters? Meaning if high-level friends come to help me quest to progress is anyone punished? If not... how does this not encourage boosting once game is out for a bit?
@fallen jetty I'm sorry.
Haven't said anything about that @oak depot
XP gained from monster are divided by the number of characters in the party, but a modifier is applied in order to help parties gain XP. Around *1.4 for a full party
@full badger thank for the info m8, have a great time.
@fallen jetty you may find solace in the referee program: if your friends put your referee code you may gain a part of how much they spend on the game
is there XP gain caps from level of monsters? Meaning if high-level friends come to help me quest to progress is anyone punished? If not... how does this not encourage boosting once game is out for a bit?
@oak depot they could implement a level range within a party/group, but I personally have no problem with boosting
@frozen tartan oh thanks, ill consider it
have the devs thought about not letting the game run if someone is using something like discord or teamspeak, i feel like it would be cool considering they want distance to matter
What.. o_O
@hollow token As Steven is an avid user of VOIP software, this isn't likely to happen
It would literally kill the game
is he? thats kind of a shame i feel like it would work well with how the game is shaping up
@hollow token I don't think that's even legal? There is no way for AoC to be allowed to query what other processes are running on your system. WoW did this back a long time ago with Warden and got in a lot of trouble.
seriously? ill have to take a look at that
Are forums log in still down?
I know @simple ether and a few others have said that US preorder packs should transfer to EU servers, including all the cosmetics and such. I hate that it's my.games as the EU publisher, and how they are already showing they aren't up to the task by having the preorder system be broken on their site.
My question is, any chance we can keep using the Intrepid store/account and just play on the EU servers with that? I am guessing not, but I'd be happy to even pay a little more (VAT and such) for that option.
are you gonna be able to sell cosmetics you bought with real money for ingame currency ?
Thats soulbound from what I have heard
No, theyre account bound. You can trade them to your other characters but not to anyone else
and can you transfer the ingames currency for the reallife money currency ?
ok glad to hear
@tribal solar I know nothing π
Well, thanks for bringing that up at least, I thought both EU and US will use Interpid's account system
even though my.games is publishing it
but this makes sense
Imagine seeing this ship on the shore
@tropic abyss im so jealous of everyone who got this
@low orchid How is EU preorder broken?
there will not be any transfert from one server to another
@balmy juniper if you go to the my.com ashes site, you cannot purchace any of the preorder packages from them
Is this game monthly payment or a one time buy thing?
monthly
@balmy juniper Haven't been able to buy any preorder packs there for a while now. Couple of months perhaps?
Monthly sub, no base cost
ty
What the fuck??????
I can log onto my account on the main website, but the moment I try on the forums it says "Something went wrong, but we will fix that soon." are the forums down for loggin in or something?
@wild marsh #web-maintenance
Yeah they got bombed last night
is the site my.games @low orchid ??
hey, i watched Steven's AMA and he said something about expansions. will these expansions be free or we ll have to pay for each one?
They will be included in the sub cost, so basically free
I'm pretty sure everything is free out of the box with the $15 a month
@balmy juniper https://aocreation.com/en
@balmy juniper https://aocreation.com/en#preorder but yeah it's my.games site
okay, thank you
i wanted to preorder want i almost preordered freom the US website lmao
was there no comments on the website being dogshit from my.games or steven?
@balmy juniper you will be able to trasfer, currently the US site is the only way to actually purchase
you can preorder from the official website then link your account with my.game
@oak depot That is definitely not true. There are even supported windows APIs for enumerating and interacting with other processes.
I'm a bit confused about the AoC Eu website and the normal one. So I backed on Kickstarter in 2017 and registered ofc on the official website. Now I discovered that theres this special EU site: https://aocreation.com/en#home and I wondered: Why? Is it just to specifically advertise the game in eu? Is it an extra version of the game and the official one will not be available for eu players? I think I need some clarification, please π¦
are there any infos on how easy it will be to respec skills?
@crystal beacon that it wont be easy
are there any infos on how easy it will be to respec skills?
@crystal beacon
Athough it seems logical to assume respec will be possible, I could not find any source saying that it will be possible
@hollow token nice pfp π π
@solemn magnet my.games is the EU publisher, however i just summoned Steven and there is going to be an update about them soon
thanks @dreamy harbor
@lost sentinel sure, APIs exist. But it basically makes the program "spyware". See https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Warden_(software). The concern is "if a program scans what else is running on my computer, how is my privacy protected (or violated)?"
@versed hollow Alright, thanks for the update. But whoever the publisher is - if I have already backed the game back then or bought it on https://ashesofcreation.com/, I am able to play then without buying that game again, right?
@solemn magnet yes, that's what they have said at least
@solemn magnet yes, when the time comes, you will be able to transfer everything across if they're not self publishing
@oak depot Well, I assume when you installed the software you also gave them consent to scan your computer. π€·ββοΈ
Awesome. Very glad to hear, almost scared that the EU stuff would handicap me. @boreal abyss "Bought" as in: "Receive my Kickstarter Package" or be able to use it ingame
I hope @idle siren 's "Soon" is before the current cosmetic pack is gone forever on the US site. :p
Cosmetic pack rotates out next week
specifically the 5th august is when the packs change
Did they say what the max size, if one exists, for a guild is?
@oak depot 300 but only if you invest all guild skill points into member count
Do we know max size of guild if you want to max all the other buffs instead of member size?
@low orchid standard size is going to be between 30 and 50
do you guys envision a scenario where a few top guilds fully staffed will basically just stomp out other small guilds?
Standard size imo should be 40 so at least the guild could with every member online prep a raid
hey, are there already any infos about system requirements? I know that those couldnt be set in stone that early in development, but I would like to somewhat know if my pc is good enough/close to the specs or if I would need to upgrade some parts for the game
@opal heart Alpha 1 requirements https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048506033-What-are-the-minimum-requirements-for-Alpha-
thx π
When Someone got caught cheating, will the payment source be banned too? (I sure hope so)
@silk oracle no idea right now
@versed hollow don't answer then 
wait, holy sh*t the minimum requirements are pretty much nothing ._.
Donβt ask questions we have no info on then @silk oracle
@slow sky this is a questions channel. Intrepid staff can answer here too.
βCanβ but rarely do
channel description says "This channel is for the community to help one another answer questions"
@opal heart their plan is to have the system requirement be technology from 5 years before the launch date, so if the game comes out in 2022 then you'd need tech from 2017 to run it for exemple
And @silk oracle is right we get intrepid answers too
If im the Guild that owns one of the castles, and it gets attacked Am i the only guild allowed to join the fight? or can i ally with other guilds and invite them to defend/attack castles?
You can ally with others and so can your attackers
Sick, thanks @onyx knoll
Uuh
Actually wait
I know you can for normal node siege but rechecking it atm for castle
Ah ha, yes
There it is, players dont need to be in the guild to sign up for defense
Guys
Yes hello, do you have any questions?
Yes, well, pardon my ignorance, I was just watching some game plays and I want to join, there is a beta for anyone or just some people?
ohhhh very cool
Pardon my English as well
We will be starting alpha 1 in fall, which you can no longer buy into. You can purchase packs on the shop that include entries to the alpha 2, or the betas
Did they mention if the game will support player to player collision ? It was an important part of Warhammer Online PvP strategies and i think i saw some collision in the 4k footage.
Did they mention if the game will support player collision ? It was an important part of Warhammer Online PvP strategies and i think i saw some collision in the 4k footage.
@orchid fossil Yes there will be player collison
@cobalt quartz you can purchase a pre-order pack that will give you differently levels of access to testing, depending on how much you spend. Earliest you can get in currently is Alpha 2 testing. https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/shop
We dont have dates for when alpha 2 and beta will start
@full badger thank you
:( indeed
Thatβs a long bad feeling for today
@cobalt quartz before beta starts they will be giving out Beta keys in a lottery type system, but that is a while away at this point
Have Leader of men emails gone out yet? If so i haven't received one.
I dont believe they had as of yesturday since it came up a few times but Theo can prob answer you better
@craggy panther as far as we're aware, no. I wouldn;t be suprised if they announced something at the dev update on friday
how would i get the leader if men Email?
tldr when this game coming beta?
@versed hollow sounds good thanks my friend.
By being a Leader of Men pack owner from when the kickstarter was live
o7
@unkempt gale Leader of Men is a supporter level from kickstarter. So unless you backed at that level back then, you won't get an email
thanks
@versed hollow does that include kick starter backers that upgraded later?
@craggy panther honestly, not sure. If you have done that, might be worth contacting support to make sure
Anyone who currently holds the Leader of Men pack will get the email when it's sent out
any wanting to talk about DPS Meters, Addons and the rest, please check these out:
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/45049/add-ons
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/42469/dps-meter/
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/44255/trying-to-stop-dps-meters-wont-do-anything
@quasi meteor not really the best place to post that, try in #aoc-discussion
done that during the debate with that purely guy, keeping it here so it can be referenced as people will ask 'questions' about it and its not in faq
@craggy panther yes LoM emails have been sent out, if you recently upgraded after the fact itβs best to open up a support ticket to get situated.
Hey all does anyone knows if the node types are already place on the map or when you find one you can chose wich type you want?
Node types are pre-determined
@dire pond yes, node types are pre-determined, however, we won't know what they are at launch
Ok ty
what's the interaction of being attacked by a player while fighting NPC mobs in the world? Example: I am fighting NPCs and someone attacks me and I:
a) don't fight back but use AoE to continue killing NPCs... said combatant walks into my AoE.. do I get flagged as a combatant now or do I need to do a direct hit against the attacking player to become a combatant?
b) the attacking player attacks me and brings me down to low health but does not kill me... instead he lets the NPC mobs finish me off.. does the attacking player still get Corruption?
A) you will become a flagged combatant as the aoe will still hit the aggressive player
B) they wont know your exact health but for scenario sakes they will not accumulate Corruption for your death.
A) no, you need to flag up yourself or do direct attacks, you AoE woll not dmg other players if you are non-combatant
Risen, that is incorrect, aoe attacks do not flag you
@oak depot if you are a non-combatant, you will not be able to attack anyone else with the exception of corrupted players. There will be a toggle in the options for auto flagging when you attack or heal another player. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP#Player_flagging
B) i believe this question is still in testing, they're gona try it both way during alpha and see what feels best
Will mobs throughout the world have the usual generic mob names? For example if you see a bear in the woods will it have a floating name above it's head that says "Starved Grizzly" or something similar, or will we only see basic mob information like level?
Mh, not sure about that Victis, you can check the dev footage to see what its like atm but it might still change since the UI is a work in progress
Gotcha. Thanks @onyx knoll
Well depending on answer to B) it could become a griefing tactic... just bring players down that are fighting mobs but don't kill them... (sure it might be fuzzy to judge their health but you can estimate). Let mobs finish them off. I believe when you die even to mobs you lose some of your gathered/processed goods, no? The attacking player that got no corruption potentially can pick up your dropped goods.
Has there been any mention of ways to stop people with some level of notoriety being attacked all the time? IE: Someone with a flying mount, someone known to have rare loot, someone regarded as a top tier raider, streamers, high tier crafters, etc.
Nope
i dont think theres a big reason to attack those people right? theres only loot drop for corrupted players iirc
is there going to be equipment "durability" mechanics where equipment breaks? and you have to repair it? Hate having to constantly do that when dungeon grinding in ff14
@rapid torrent death while corrupted causes you to lose corruption, so dying over and over is a legit way to remove corruption
People attack well known people in games without drops all the time
@hollow token Theres Always loot drop on death, corrupted can drop gear too
and so many people may do so corruption won't matter much when its someone different every time
@rapid torrent additionally items won't drop because you have corruption, they will drop because you have HIGH corruption
I'm not even talking about that
@versed hollow you do know that you drop materials anyway?
since its going to be open world PVP if a streamer is being farmed "because its funny" would it be considered griefing? or stream sniping and is it going to be against tos?
thats what im asking
but not just streamers
people go above and beyond ot be dicks
yeah not necessarily but just as an example since theyre who im thinking would be the bigest target like for example asmon's audience they would do it just to get a reaction
Stories tend to have villains in them, it makes them more interesting.
@keen ice there is durability, yea. You need crafters to repair your gear (players), and you need materials not just gold
@silk oracle raw materials yes, but not items
@keen ice and then they declare themselves KoS
@versed hollow raw materials are items to me but k
Besides, I'm not particularly concerned about streamers being targeted, because they will also have the benefit of their audience voting them as mayor or running around as a zerg.
The corruption system is what is used to discourage people from farming other players
A good example yes @keen ice I'm worried certain people who become famous/infamous in the community could get chased out simply for being known
@onyx knoll thanks. Hopefully the amount of durability decrease per activity is not alot. In FF14 running 3 dungeons and durability is already below 50% for all gear
Imagine if zezima in runescape could have been freely pvpd back in the day
How much is the reduction in dropped resources when you are Pked if you fight back? As I understand it, a level 50 non-combatant can attack a level 5 non-combatant who is gravid with resources, kill the lowly 5 and loot the resources. What is the difference in drop vs not fighting back?
@burnt island half of a normal death
It won't take long for people to start referring to scientific nodes as "streamer nodes", I guarantee it.
@keen ice they'll be testing the durability during alpha and try to find a good balance :)
Itβll be fun to siege a βstreamerβ node
So, if I have 1000 of a resource and am PKed. I drop 500 if I fight back and 1000 if I don't?
I feel like this streamer node thing reinforces my thoughts on prolific people being chased out of the game, everyone keeps saying corruption but that won't stop anything if its different people attacking them every time.
@burnt island https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Player_death
the more its discussed the more im turned off by the idea of open world PVP. I agree its going to be a good feature since there is the corruption mechanic and bounty hunters to discourage it. But being a pker in osrs ive had my fair share of griefers and being a griefer. 100% guarantee there is going to be a guild dedicated to this activity purely for the act of defying corruption mechanic
@burnt island we dont know of it'll be 50% base or less but thats the general idea yeah
@silk oracle That page does not specify the percentages of drop on death, which is the most important aspect
@burnt island if the wiki doesn't contain something; we don't know it
@burnt island the exact numbers are not known at this point in time
It determines whether it will be profitable for PKers to constantly gank low level gatherers
I'm not opposed to the idea of open world pvp but I think there should be if there isn't already a system that if someone get targeted too many times in a certain window of time they give more corruption each time until they die giving higher levels of it
you will drop 50% less if you fight back, but if you fight back the attacker will not be flagged as corrupted if they kill you. So honestly... if they are much higher level, you are better off not fighting back and loosing more loot b/c when you re-spawn they can just kill you again...
@keen ice there prob be will be some ppl that pk for the sake of pk, if it's something you feel will be a big problem for your own enjoyement of the game then this might not be the mmo for you, which is quite alright :) i recommend you keep an eye on the alpha and beta, since there will be no NDA, so you can see how things evolve and what the athmosphere of the game is before you decide if you wana invest
@oak depot Yes, do they then get half of the half you had left? Is there nay diminishing returns mechanism or any sort of PK timer?
@oak depot youd want to fight back even against a high level if you were gathering rare material and wanted to lose less
oh yeah nah im going to buy the $375 pack and 100% going to be PKing. in all mmos ive played the most enjoyment i get is out of pvp against players and difficult raids/dungeons/battles instead of just farming ai mobs doing professions
50% is a lot. corrupt players lose 4x that of normal players so i think it has to be a lower number
Corrupted player experience "dampening" in pvp that increases in effect as they gain more corruption, effectively making them useless in PvP if they kill too much. The exception is when corrupted players fight against bounty hunters.
@crisp holly sure, but then they don't get corrupted. and you lose 50% less, but then they kill you again... and again.. you lose more materials each time you die. If you continue to fight back they never get corrupted
A PK would start as non-combatant, loot a gatherer, get corrupted, sneak off to his secluded spot to work off the corruption, then rinse repeat
@regal anvil actual numbers are unknown, they were likely using it as an example
bounty hunters dont get flagged when they target a corrupted player right? even if they are the first to initialise combat? Is Bounty hunter going to be a profession or some sort of toggle to identify you as such?
@burnt island at that point, it would be more profitable to just gather yourself
Anyway, we're getting way off topic, continue in #aoc-discussion
Question about cosmetics. I know it has been stated in the past that cosmetics are purchasable only for a limited time, and not brought back. But if there was a sizable enough mass of people who want the opportunity to purchase them again (in my case, I missed out on the protector cosmetics because I didn't have enough cash at the time), would Intrepid consider putting them on some sort of rotation?
@oak depot you don't respawn right where you died so yeah, if you have the bad luck of someone targeting you that much it won't be fun right then but that's also a reason to be with friends who can help you while out in this dangerous world
@versed hollow That is my basic question. Without the real numbers, it is impossible to determine if the system will actually fundamentally discourage ganking
@burnt island pk players will appear in the map
@gray star i wouldnt hold my breath, but maybe, who knows
@storm raptor But only if their corruption is at a certain level, right? Or is it any corruption at all?
@crisp holly okay, so do you respawn at a grave-yard? Is a grave-yard special zone that prevents combatants from entering and waiting there?
To add to Blip's questions are cosmetics going to be tradeable? Ive heard mentions there is going to be trading in the game?
@keen ice cosmetics will NOT be tradeable
@oak depot there will be respawn points throughout the world, no corpse running like in WoW
I dont think those zones will protect you from pvp but they said you would respawn at random spots so people cant farm a specific individual at a respawn point
@burnt island yea, when you get certain lvl but i we dont know how much corruption its needed
@storm raptor Thanks
@onyx knoll any hope is better than no hope π
And ultimately, it's win-win. Intrepid get more cash, the players get cosmetics
@gray star It's been confirmed that anything from the cash shop will NOT be tradeable.
"All cosmetic store items will be non-tradeable. There will be no gifting mechanism for cosmetic items."
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Cosmetic_store
@versed hollow I made no mention of trading cosmetics
No worries π
have they mentioned any system/strategy they are thinking of adopting to prevent real world trading? this always ruins a lot of mmos
Is there a known benefit to doubling down on the same class as your archetype for Secondary classes?
@burnt island unless you're ganking a caravan or sieging a city or killing a corrupted player, killing players does not gain you anything
@keen ice they will have active GM's in game, so if they ass anyone advertising, they will be able to quickly deal with them. General bot detection work to remove gold farmers as well
@warm prism surely it boosts the primary function of the main class?
@warm prism going Tank + Tank could boost your tanking abilities, but you could have less utility compared to other combinations. We will know more about this when testing happens
@versed hollow @gray star Makes sense. Lots of choice in the game is cool.
@warm prism will be going full healer, throwing out them bandaids like candy. So Cleric/Cleric
when guarding a caravan, how will the hiring/payment work? will i have to ask the owner for a handout at the end, or will there be a reward at the end giving like how a quest works?
I don't think there's any formality planned around guarding besides you yourself flagging yourself as a guard
So you'd have to figure your employment out with whoever is putting the caravan together
@regal anvil exact systems aren't in place yet, but you could recieve things like increased reputation with nodes, monetary reward from the destination node, etc
i think guarding will be different depending on if its a node based caravan or a personal one
Did a playable version of the memo come out since we tested the br?
Hi guys, new here. I got a question about the Enchanter class combination (Summoner/Bard).I've heard and read that the augment will make the primary class play a lot different, such as the Necromancer gaining specific summons such as skeleton, abominations and such
But will the Enchanter get summons that can buff or will be able to buff its summons?
That is not yet known
what do you guys think?
Maybe, we don't know really anything about classes right now
But if you want to guess and discuss this you should go to #aoc-discussion
is there any chance we know if there are gonna be dailys in this game?
@oblique burrow Not yet, we are currently at pre-Alpha 1 right now and Alpha 1 should be starting in the next month or two
we have no info when Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2, and launch will be
From what it looks like there are some repeatable and some non-repeatable quests. I'm not sure about any time gating on quests
in pre-Alpha you guys have access to primary classes only?
We don't have a solid date for the NDA lifted alpha yet do we? This summer
Yes, we should get more info about the second class during Alpha 2
@nimble charm correct, it should be lifted once Alpha 1 has fully started
@crisp holly Will we know the date of the launch beforehand?
I would like to set myself a reminder π
@nimble charm No idea right now. The community is guessing that the game will be launched sometime 2022 or 2023
just curious about the start of the NDA lift, so I can make a decision about backing it early via preorder or not
thanks
There is currently only a Visual NDA on testing, pre-alpha players can talk about the game
when Alpha 1 starts, there will be no NDA
oh okay, for some reason I thought that was the summer 2020, not fall
(video nda lift)
Can one be homeless/nodeless player? # hobonode
yea everyone is at the s tart
@potent merlin yes, but you would be missing out on a large amount of what the game offers
It would be a neat rp to do
Will people be able to overhear party chat, say if their proximity was close to the party or have a high enough wisdom statistic?
there will not be a proximity based voice chat
Not meaning voice, but just general a party chat
@real dock voice chat will only work in certain situations, proximity based chat isn't currently planned
oh, I misunderstood "overhear", sorry ^^
Yeah, "overread" didnt sound quite right
it's not likely
But there is a proximity based voice chat >.>
Just trying to gauge how much spy stuff a spy can actually do lol
@slow sky
So if you have a freehold on your main, can your alt still access it?
Yes
Not sure if itβs automatic but you can set it up to be allowed for sure
Freehold is account
You get 1 freehold per account. They havenβt talked about how permissions for alts will work yet as far as I know
Anyone can use your freehold facilities if you let them
Yes but you can set permissions like your house to allow for people to move and make changes as well
Wait, will there not be any voip options for taverns and such?
@surreal void That would be something to ask for ^^
It's discussed, nothing set yet
Aight, thanks
I have seen the classes, but, I didn't seen any that look like they are aligned with a druid class, am I mistaken?
@dusty ferry Nothing for class names but we have no idea what each combo really does yet
@crisp holly Copy, thanks for the clarification, just was curious if there was any class name that would suggest a type like druid. Thanks.
@dusty ferry Does "shaman" count?
I don't think so. Shaman and Scion are the only ones I could see being close
I making a close comparison to WoW/Diablo in terms and Shaman would align with Shaman to me, but probably a bad comparison.
But Shaman is Summoner+Cleric. But as 2nd cleric you can augment with "death" which would make you kind of a necro
Let's hope there's a "nature" augment somewhere
strawpoll regarding proximity voice chat, give it a look cheers
Definitely C, with owner having the ability to mute trolls lol
There is a chance that one of the religions of this game could give you nature augment(s) but again, we know nothing about them right now
A god of nature is all but assured
Proximity chat is fine if it's opt-in with a decent interface to mute and report trolls.
Steven will be on TimTheTatman stream in like 10/15 minutes!
can i have a link?
thanks for letting us know
we dont have a timeline yet
steven posted today he will ahve update soon
but u can buy from us site too they confirmed u can transfer before game launches
What's the current knowledge on Guild Leadership changes- specifically when your guild holds a Castle, or other objective?
my question is: how am i protected by beeing scamed ingame?
for example i got all materials for the gear i want and i found a player with the profession to craft the gear. so i do have to give him all the materials he needs in order to get my gear but why shouldnt he scam me right away?
I'm abit confused about the corruption system. Will there be anything positive about PK another same level player? Like if they are griefing a rotation etc. do you become coruppted instant?
scamming is a part of the game, but i think theres a way to get someone to craft something for you without u giving them the materials
dont forget that how the profesion system works and node system also mean if ur a master artisan ur reputation is ur price
so scammers can only excist en then are basicly done
so by the way the game works and limits proffesions it disables scammers
or atleast limits them
there will always be doubler scammers
@plucky pawn hi, im getting this login error since I logged off from aoc forum like 2 days ago. I never got this before... its not related to username/pass, already changed it
@shut robin the game doesnt reaward you killing someone who isn't flagged, since being corrupted is pretty penalising, however you do get a portion of the materials and processed good the person was carrying when you kill them
@whole dawn but the thing is cant master every profession and i guess u do have to master the smithing for the best gear available and if i am not going for smithing myself i have to trust a lot of smiths out there but i do not trust other players at all so i kinda want to be protected by the game itself
is there a guild wars system? so 1 guild can declare war on another for free PK?
@golden shoal I am pretty sure that Steven has said that they won't be limiting or penalizing scammers as that is part of the gameplay. You will have to put a little trust in people, but you could also do things to mitigate that, by say doing business with crafters you know and have worked with before. If you aren't sure about them ask for some material or item of equal value to hold while they craft to compensate loses.
@shut robin Yes, if you are in a guild war, or node war, you will auto flag for the opposing players.
cool, ty
What defines the node type? Does race affect it or does the mayor get to decide what direction it goes?
when a node spawn
there will be emisaries from 1 of the 4 tpes
those npc define the node type
so at node lvl 0 it is already determent what node type it is
basicly 25% chance on spawn of node
Does that change when a node is reset?
yea if its destoyed i can spawn again as a different node type
https://www.twitch.tv/timthetatman Steven having conversation with tim
@fickle hawk Can you link where you have seen that information? I thought the node types were set.
nodes are set
@opal field Race does affect the look and feel of the node as it progresses. At each stage of development the highest contributing race will determine the look of the node.
I know these were probably answered a million times so I'm really sorry for asking it again but
**1) **I've noticed the game has ship building crafting profession. Does it mean we'll be actually able to use ships? Perhaps have naval combat and such?
**2) **Will there actually be any meaningful story to the quests in the game? Story choices, perhaps voice acting etc?
**3) **Will there be any sort of an "outfit designer"? You know something like Transmog in wow for example π
Q: will it be possible to have something simular to a dps/hps meter?(since no addons)
Is there any update on the hybrid action combat system? also will there be combat testing
@crystal beacon
- Yes, use ships for multiple things, including naval combat.
- Story does seem to be a focus with multiple different running stories, including main story line, organization stories, and more.
- "Transmog" is a thing
Thank you so much for answering my questions! 
Can you pack up your freehold and move around? - It seems like it can get destroyed with blueprints coming back to you - but voluntary destruction?
@umbral tartan I am pretty sure that they have said they would not have a DPS meter
Have devs thought of hiring composers such as jeremy soule or howard shore?
who decides exactly what node type the node is going to be?
@west turtle Bear McCreary already hired
Okey ty
@rare apex Node Types are pregenerated by the devs.
@rare apex, node types are predetermined!
When does the beta release?
@proud turtle Unknown at this moment. Beyond Alpha 1 they have no timeline.
Whatβs the date for Alpha 1?
@proud turtle Fall 2020
Fall of 2020. Though initial invites for Pre-A1 are already sent.
And if I preorder the wayfarer package Iβll be able to access beta 1 and play on release date?
so with 101 nodes it will be divided in the 4 node types most likely then?
@west turtle They hired the guy who did sound for walking dead/god of war im pretty sure
@rare apex Yes there are 4 node types, Military, Scientific, Religious, and Economy. There are 103 potential nodes, and there is no info on how the 4 types are distributed in those.
ok thank you
@crystal beacon no voice acting they dont have the budget for it
ye understandable! thanks for the answer!
@proud turtle I'm not hugely familiar with the packs, but according to the wiki (provided below) Wayfarer seems to only allow Beta 2 access, not Beta 1.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Pre-order_packs
@ashen orchid right Iβm sure thatβs what I meant.
Will you be able to mount while in combat?
@tough sierra In several of the videos Steven has used his mount while 'in combat'. To reposition quickly. Mounts have health and can be 'killed' (temporarily disabled) so I would assume that mounting in combat is going to be a thing.
mounts will also have some combat abilities
Will that be more than the Royal mounts? @fair yew
yes
Which channel would be appropriate for feedback and general specific questions about class design?
feedback #aoc-discussion questions #questions
feedback is best placed on the forums so that the devs see it
Will mayors be able to to name their towns/cities/etc? How will the names be chosen?
No the node names are already set
that sucks
playermade names for nodes would be a meme anyway
probably wont be a list until the game releases. there 103 nodes
imagine
Already enough work to manage player names for appropriateness. Don't need meme town names.
ye aro
I just want asmon to be traveling the world and walk into 'baldhead' village
While funny I'd rather not sacrifice immersion for that
i think players can name their taverns or businesses though not sure
The malding Inn
@tender moon I dunno what you think about immersion but that name is less weird than a lot of irl towns/streets
Sure, but players would take it further than that name.
sure, but if baldhead village exists for long enough I imagine it will quickly become part of the world itself
immersed in the world, as it is
Probably
Do we know much about plans for hidden equipment stats in Ashes?
Is it going to be same as in BDO, where actual effects of equipment are hidden and a lot of stats are vague and abstract?
I know Steven said he doesn't want people being judged by their equipment, but I really hope he meant something else, because making different peculiar stat builds and fine-tuning them with a calculator is a big fun, and hiding stats is simplifying that and leads to everyone just rushing for "rarer" stuff assuming that it will naturally be better (like in BDO...) and no real option to even try to stray away from that path.
The addon that shall not be named.
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I think Steven ment not having things like item level in WoW
Thats what it sounded like to me.
any update on who is gonna have the Eu servers?
When can we expect to get more details on the arch types?
@hidden aurora Around Alpha 2 or just before. No ETA on Alpha 2 yet.
@lament delta your stats will be hidden from other players, you wont be able to see exact hp on a target for exemple, but from what i understand it'll be clear what each stat does and what each piece gives you
got it, thanks!
@lament delta Steven has said that Crafters will be able to choose the stats as they craft items. That would infer that you can see the stats yourself.
Will there be fall damage
When we level up do character stats increase automatically or do we pick where stat points go?
do character abilities increase in power as we lvl up?
@tough sierra asking because there was no fall damage on the stream? π I guess there's obviously going to be fall damage
How many character slots will we have per account? My concern is around choosing a primary and then type and being locked in to the primary. One thing I've really liked about Albion Online for example, is the "your class/role is what you wear" thing. It would be unfortunate to lvl up a character and then being locked in (name included) and not be able to change the role that character plays.
@visual heart Stats are initially set by race and your Primary class determines your stat increases.
@hidden aurora We'll have a comfortable amount
Thx
The Alpha 1 test would be weird if there was no damage in the fall. 
@kind cloud Skills can be upgraded with skill points you earn during leveling. You can go wide and have many skills, or tall and have a few at higher levels.
Will Rangers have options when it comes to ranged weapons? EG. Longbow / Shortbow / Composite Bow /Crossbow
Will mayors be able to 'delegate' abilities, such as collecting taxes and preparing defenses
@void pasture Weapons are pretty set I believe. See the Wiki below.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons
I guess I'll be trying everything in Alpha so I can choose the right class for me when the game does come out heh
same, the class system is so cool
Thanks @ashen orchid
Are there any plans to allow a preview of each subclass before picking one ? Kind of like Lost Ark is where you can try the sub archs before picking one?
@void pasture It is also important to mention that you don't have to use a specific weapon. Any class can use any weapon. They will just have more proficiency or skill options for certain weapons.
Yeah, I understood that, was just worried that Rangers would be locked into one weapon type when it came to ranged abilities w/o speccing into magic and being cheeky with a wand or staff etc.
Are people going to be able to raid a freehold?
@void pasture In that same wiki is some class stuff. Ranger currently does only have special skills for bow. Not crossbow. Subject to change though.
So since most of the gear isnβt soulbound (character bound) is there certain requirements to use them ? As in level, certain stats or professions
Hopefully Bards will pull out a harp and play a tune when casting a buff lol
@atomic ridge from some dev updates on youtube, yes you can raid and defend your freehold
is it safe to assume that the wiki will contain extensive detail on the 64 class variations, their playstyles, and possibly even game play footage of each? I think it will be very helpful to give folks an idea of the playstyle for each class so they can make the best decision when creating their first character
@atomic ridge If your node is seiged and destroyed, your freehold could be raided.
think so
@crystal beacon The way Steven has talked about gear and from what I saw in the videos, I do believe there are level restrictions to higher tier gear.
Will there be a wedding system at launch?
how many buildings can one place on your own freehold?
@frozen tartan A marriage system yes
@crystal beacon Yes there is a small window after a successful raid. That window has not been defined though so your small vs someone else's may differ.
How can I be apart of this journey for this game
@kind cloud I don't think that has been defined yet, but they have stated different building have different sizes so it would likely depend on the buildings you choose.
@ashen orchid good cause i dont want my butt handed to me by a fully geared low level character lol
I guess just preorder it, that's all you can really do at this point.
@ashen orchid Its been given. 2 hours after a successful siege
Damn @crystal beacon is there any alphas or betas?
@kind storm other than participating here and watching content, wait until release!
@sharp wing can you direct me to where that is?
Or you can buy one of the packs to get alpha/beta access @kind storm
Ooo okay thanks
Damn @crystal beacon is there any alphas or betas?
@kind storm You can preorder access to alpha 2 right now, it's like $350. We don't know when exactly alpha 2 will be though
And beta access but alpha 2 is as close as you can get iirc
I have been unable to login on the aoc website for two days now, is something down with it?
@kind storm you also have Ashes of Creation Apocalypse, think it is out on steam, with 6 classes to try out. it is a battle royale atm, but more game modes will be added. (wrong name)
@crystal beacon 250 + tax
@ashen orchid https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Freeholds
Apocalypse* @kind cloud
Ohh
@lofty verge the site is a little overloaded with the recet hype
I see. wanted to put my input on the recent poll discussion
Thats precisely what caused the saturation lol, I would just wait a bit or join the Reddit discussio on it!
Can someone link me jahon dps meter thing
you can participate on reddit and twitter, maybe some other places as well
Any new info from the stream?
@silent island Sounded like the same information that has been stated. But I did miss part of it during the middle.
Oh okk
Will the combat system be similar to WoW
@silent island At least if you meant the one that just happened with Tim the Tat man.
@sacred bloom Combat system is a mix between tab and action. You can go 75% maximum in one direction and 25% minimum in the other
@idle siren when you said end of this year for alpha one with tim is that literally or is it still "fall"
@sharp wing k thanks
fall is the end of the year
I have a very serious quesiton, will i be able to milk a cow in ashes?
only with consent 
fall starts in september no?
Do we know what all weapon types will be in the game?
Loving everything I hear about this game. Only have one question/concern. Steven mentioned when a siege on your node is achieved, your warehouse and your mats within, "a portion will be destroyed and a portion will be lootable." Does this mean something like 50% lost and 50% lootable, meaning everything you have can be lost? Or by portion does he also mean something like, 50% kept, 25% destroyed, 25% lootable?
@unreal zealot correct fall is September - December in the northern hemisphere
@novel rain i believe you can as part of the animal husbandry job
@lofty verge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons
Thanks
@daring sorrel I don't think that has been touched on. But I would hazard to guess if the node is destroyed you lose everything. But maybe @dark jungle knows better.
@daring sorrel we dont have exact numbers on the drop % yet, but you will be keeping a portion
You lose any resources stored in that Node yes
cause those will be looted by the enemy
@daring sorrel @sharp wing we dont know the exact proportions yet. they will be tuning those numbers during testing
I think he was just giving those numbers as an example
Man, that's the only thing I'm really concerned about. I hate systems like Rust where you can lose all your materials just like that
Some, sure, gotta be risk
But everything, ouch
@daring sorrel If it is everything you would have ample time to move valuables out.
Not sure if someone asked, but here it goes: Steven said that node can launch wars against other nodes. Does it mean that if me and my guildies are citizens off different nodes we would be at war between us?
everything in the node
u can still store in ur house and defend that if its a freehold
Does anyone know if there are any posts or videos where someone talks about in-game transparency? I know that in the recent AMA Steven talked about out-of-game transparency. I made a post of the forums (https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/45155/regarding-transparency-in-and-out-of-game#latest), but no one really seemed to have any ideas about the subject.
@sharp wing Nah, he specifically said once a siege is declared, warehouses are locked
@crystal beacon they had a camera swap system last they mentioned it
@daring sorrel agreed, steven has echoed the same thing. Its not about total loss making you want to quit the game but it is about risk
So you cant just withdraw everything
@fickle hawk except your Freehold can also be looted after a successful raid
if enemies attack it
Hmm, if it says freeholds are only open to attack after a successful siege, it seems they should be safe DURING a siege?
@daring sorrel Fwiw the more developed the town the harder it'll be to seige. I imagine the earliest settlements will become the most hardened settlements
Yes only after a successful siege
@daring sorrel I understand about warehouses. But other things I think you will be able to withdraw from.
yea ok but u can still defend after node is destoyed
and thats only mats not completed items
Can't do much to defend as one versus an army.
@simple pecan yes, safe during the siege, but if the node falls, then can raid them
You won't lose everything, only a portion of what was there
@dark jungle That's good to hear. Risk is good, but I can see myself being a material grinder, probably the first of the three stages type of player, so losing everything would really suck xD
then u need to spread risk
Hoping more information comes out on how the market will work. Selling items in town and such. Hopefully there will be a way to sell items without being present. Adding them to a shop or something. Some AH-like system, perhaps.
forum login still doesnt work after whole day? 
and rent store
@pale glade Thats a good question and we haven't been given an answer. But I believe the node > guild.
and economic nodes have ah system
@simple pecan tehre won't
Unless you are in a Economic Metro
Then you can buy over a distance, HOWEVER, you still need to travel there to pick the stuff up
@azure knot have u set a forum name
@fickle hawk economic nodes do indeed have auction houses, however, only a stage 6 economic node will link them all together
If one needs to rent a store in town, that will likely just not happen for most people since they're trying to make money and not spend as much as they might make on the store rent. Freehold profits seem unlikely since people will not wander to all freeholds looking for goods. I hope you can add items to an existing shop or system in town.
@fickle hawk yea, still got "Something went wrong, but we will fix that soon."
@simple pecan you can own shops and stalls in cities where you can sell stuff
@azure knot #web-maintenance they are having issues with it right now
yeah, for past 24h π
@versed hollow u can still build a store on freehold without economic node
Why is the aoc discussion getting toxic?
@fickle hawk yes, i was just expanding on the AH stuff
Gonna have to save up a tonne of raw mats to make renting a shop worth it. Concerning.
@silent island Keep this channel relevant to Q&A about the game
DO NOTE
AH in economic nodes can buy over a distance, but you still ahve to travel to the node where it was sold to pick it up
It won't end up in the same Node you're in unless it is sold there
do you have kind of date for those you wanna try the fight gameplay by the battleroyal test ground
@native abyss Nope.
thanks for the fast af answer haha
Is there going to be a time where the game is free for a bit?
I assume once full release comes around there may be a trial.
they may have events down the road but nothings been confirmed
or asked for that matter
Quick questions can you have the same guild name on different servers?
Should be able to as character names can be the same on different servers.
Was there any benefits to races other than the looks?
@opal field https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Racial_abilities
Should be able to as character names can be the same on different servers.
@sharp wing i hope thats not true...
oh wait
nvm i read it wrong mb
This fall is it alpha of the mmo OR of the battle royale? And if u have acces for AoC do i also have access for the apocalyps?
Alpha for the mmo
Ohh okaay
I thought Apoc was no longer a thing.
Apoc is no longer a thing. Unless they make it a thing
Any timeframe how long alpha 1 Will be
As long as they need it to be
just focus on the mmo!, screw battle royal
Apoc comes back around for sieges
I believe the BR is to test combat for data for the main game
Well the battle royale uses the mmo models etc so no real developing needed, actually exelent place to test and balance pvp
APOC is not coming back unless they need it too. Along with the castle sieges.
well that is if they use classes
just focus on the mmo!, screw battle royal
@junior pagoda the battle royale is designed to improve the mmo
Apoc IS coming back this is already confirmed
This is the current timeline. All the remaining tests on this list are for the MMO only.
@slow sky Link please?
Look up
Look up where? what i posted?
You blind? The picture smarty
Mmmhhh so its final alpha stage were going in
Literally says βApoc siege and horde mode after alpha 1β
Okay I see what you mean. Let me try and find where they talked about not doing horde mode anymore
I rly hope the game releases soon xD i want to soak all my time into it
How does respawning work? Do you just revive at a node or do you have like a revive on the spot where you died type of thing?
2022 earliest
2-3years is current community estimate
Without IT being rushed to please unpatient ppl like me ofc
I just want to test it and report all the sweet bugs
what does "persistent alpha" mean in the picture sent here earlier?
will they upgrade to Unreal Engine 5 at some point?
UE5 will be considered
Maybe eventually but its not in the current plans as is
@echo dew it becomes the public test server
i guess ill just google it cause i still dont get it and wouldnt wanna bother u over that
but ty
Are the forums down currently? can't seem to log in
UE5 will be considered
@frozen tartan I dont think so btw, making a huge engine takes a lot of work. It would probably set the game back 1 year atleast
I cant believe how hard i want this to succeed xD i need a mmo, im Just bored by gaming right now because its all the same... When i played mmos i never felt bored
forums are fine for me
I cant believe how hard i want this to succeed xD i need a mmo, im Just bored by gaming right now because its all the same... When i played mmos i never felt bored
@umbral kestrel Same! This will hopefully give me back a game that I can play every day and make progress instead of all the lobby games I play now
Please keep this channel to Questions and Answers only. If youβre passionate about further discussion feel free to move to the lovely discussion channels #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion Thank you. 
@slow sky I concede. Found a article 4 months ago where someone at the studio confirmed it will be back. Guess I missed that. Thanks!
FfXIV has been great, but I feel you both @umbral kestrel and @gritty osprey I need a game that Iβve truly been vested in from the start. Canβt wait to get in and start exploring every inch.
Yeah I can't log into the forums, it keeps saying Something went wrong, but we will fix that soon. I have changed the password and checked username
ohh ok i see what u meant by public test server now, thanks alot! @slow sky
@teal hatch they are having issues #web-maintenance
FfXIV has been great, but I feel you both @umbral kestrel and @gritty osprey I need a game that Iβve truly been vested in from the start. Canβt wait to get in and start exploring every inch.
@crystal beacon This game is basically a portion of EvE, mixed with fantasy and a bit of theme park. My ideal game basically, and I hope Steven and his team can accomplish what they set out to do.
Please try and keep discussion about ashes to #aoc-discussion.
@teal hatch The devs are aware of the forum issues and are working on a fix, can always check #web-maintenance for updates
@gritty osprey @crystal beacon yess exactly! And since i started with mmos 10 years ago and now there is one huge personal improvement and that is i got the money now haha so since corona i cant do shit anyway i Will try to back this up as much as i could
i have a question regarding the referral program, i saw you can redeem intrepid bucks for cash, is this real cash or like in game currency
@true sand Intrepid bucks will be used to buy game time, or embers (the premium currency)
How it was before is that you could redeem for real cash or embers (in store currency for cosmetics) but I believe the referral system is being revamped.
Everything at this point is outdated and subject to change the day after it is said, until launch.
ok
No, it's not outdated
they just said its being revamped though
if info is outdated it will be removed from the wiki, but it requires steven to say its outdated first
ok so you can still trade in intrepidbucks for real actual USD?
not until after launch
holy crap
Will shorter races have an advantage regarding height and hitboxes?
Yes
bruh
that is insane
@west turtle yes they will, but it may be offset by something else, like lower health pool or lower defensive stats
some things will never be truly balanced, but that's kind of more realistic in a lot of ways
so i could actually make a living by using intrepid bucks to turn them into real usd?
well yes but its a game
holy crapioli
if you gained enough referrals yes, but remember you earn less if your referrals refer others
that is sort of confusing
hi i was wondering about the phases talked about in the $150 pack
@whole sandal what would you like to know?
@whole sandal Can you specifiy what your question is?
@dark jungle i was curious about the difference between the two
the beta one testt phase and beta 2
Beta one will come first, and then beta two will follow later. It's a matter of release date
okay that's what i figured
It just means you have access to both phases
they have their internal goals with the different betas, we do not know what htey are
when does beta 1 start?
no dates yet
ah okay
we only know about alpha 1 so far
a1 this fall
Community question, if I choose to marry my irl gf in AoC instead of finding a suitable battlemaiden to take as my own does that make me a simp
Another resource you can bookmark is the wiki https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule @whole sandal
@tough sierra no
and one last question would i be able to upgrade my pre-order pack like if i got the 75 now would i be able to buy the 150 later for cheaper and so on or would i just have to buy the one i'd want at the start?
You can upgrade by paying the difference.
Realize you only get the cosmetic upgrades from the month you upgrade to.
So while you have the accessory from this pack. You would get the pet from the month you upgrade in. And would need to purchase the accessory for $5 separate. Also the gametime and such does not stack.
so if i were to buy the 150 now then later pay the difference for the 375 would i keep the stuff from the 375 pack and have the 9 months?
You would get everything in the 375 pack, yes
okay cool thanks
Although your game time would go from 4 months to 9 months, not 13 months
what if u bought one set of cosmetics then upgraded to the 375 bundle do you lose the last set of cosmetics on thr 150
no
You never lose cosmetics that you have bought, you just unlock new cosmetics
anybody knows if there'll be region blocks anywhere for the european server? (specifically israel is what i need to know)
@echo dew As in will certain regions not be allowed to play?
None that I am aware of, unless the game gets banned in a specific country
alright, thanks
and there's no cap on the upgrades between packs?
have they fixed the forums yet?
like i can get the 75 now then build up to the 375?
how node guards will act in a case of two guilds fighting within the node ZOI
That is correct @whole sandal Although remember if you buy the $75 pack for the current cosmetic theme, and the theme changes, you can no longer get the old them cosmetics. You can only upgrade to the new theme cosmetics
@misty condor Guards only attack corrupted I believe within the node, I do not believe they interact with players that are outside the node in the ZOI
ooooh okay so they plan to change like the turtle and stuff
The themes change every so often yes
Next cosmetics change Aug 5th
@crystal beacon You can always check to see if the forums are working for you, or check the status at #web-maintenance
@crystal beacon You can always check to see if the forums are working for you, or check the status at #web-maintenance
@steady ocean was told a log in problem and tried my self and still no change. I was asking for an update
check #web-maintenance
Will a mayor be able to ban certain players/guilds from entering the city or maybe remove the citizenship from a toxic player?
@trim moon I believe mayors generally only control tax rates and which buildings are constructed within a node. They also have a role in the defense of a node. You can read more at https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mayors
So the mayors/citizens decisions cannot influence the city guards actions, right?
Remove citizenship no. Put players who are not wanted on an enemy of the state list yes. However it costs increasing amounts of gold for each person they add.
Citizens cannot be targeted for the list
There a lists?
I do not believe they can specifically control the guards, just determine the level of defences
If so, rip streamers
Thanks @ruby swift @steady ocean
Another question: can mayors designate roles and/or functions to officers within their cities to help in administering a node?
I think that, specially in a Metropolis, the mayoral duties can become overwhelming for a single person
There will be officers to assist yes
I know officers will be able to have special functions during node sieges, I'm not certain if they are able to affect a node's management systems.
What is the latest estimated ETA for open release ?
You can check https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release_schedule for the latest info @normal ether
Thank you
Community guesses have ranged from 2-3 years for full launch, but these are just guesses on the high end
How come I can't log into the forum? I wanted to comment on the multiboxing discussion but I'm in able too.
check #web-maintenance @crystal beacon
The devs are aware of the forum login issues and are working to resolve them
Has there been any information given on DPS meters? I read something concerning saying no add ons allowed.
@ancient cape That is correct
Steven does not like DPS meters so there will be none
or addons
Hello, New here. This game sounds like it will finally be the high fantasy version of EVE Online. does that sound like an apt comparison?
Who can I PM to ask a few questions on the GM side?
It will have some components that are similar to many different MMOs @jovial walrus You can ask over in #aoc-discussion other folks opinions on what other games AoC will look similar to or draws inspiration from if you want more opinions
ok thanks
@modern jolt you can try !cs
where is a good video of all in one summery? i assume lazy peon's?
That is one resource, yes. You can check #community-links for other resources
Oh crap, thank you... okay that is concerning to me but good news to know.
[Question] I was curious about the inability of vassal nodes to declare war against the parent node. If the advancement of a vassal node is being blocked by the "progression lock" from the parent node, what can they do about it?
I thought node wars were meant for this kind of conflict. Like, you are blocking my progression, so i will destroy you.
@heavy chasm ashes101 would be my go-to website for learning the mechanics
perhaps @dark jungle can answer that one, I'll be sure to ask for a clarification if I get the chance though @trim moon
@steady ocean Thanks a lot!
I have a question regarding the way mounts will behave and function, is this a good place to ask?
@modern jolt You can try DM'ing one of the community managers here on discord if it is urgent
@trim moon A node war can't be declared on a parent node but a Node Siege can be.
Two very different things
@trim moon @steady ocean yeah that one needs to be clarified more with Steven I think
@crisp holly Ohhhh shit, you're right
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Our lord has appeared
@idle siren they are inquiring about the limitation of vassals to attack their parent
Oh hi Mark Steven
@sudden bolt Feel free to ask
@idle siren Great chat with Time this morning!
^
Okay, this question is probably really benign but I have been thinking about it a lot since I started playing GW2 again. One thing I love about the game is how they do mounts. Every mount has a movement ability and a combat ability, to jump really fair, to glide or barrel role, and the mounts move around like they have weight. They slide to a stop from a run, turn in a radius instead of on a dime, wobble around when they land from a jump, etc. I was wondering if AoC had any plans to impliment some of these ideas? I personally dislike it when mounts in MMO's just become shiny % speed boosts.
Hey Steven, good luck with your phoenix meeting. Proximity based voice chat please. :v
About the only thing GW2 does right nowadays :p
Honestly true, but they really nailed mounts.
Mounts will certainly have more depth than a simple speed boost, you can read a lot about them here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts
@sudden bolt they are working a lot on animations so the game feels like a good immersive experience
If you have any specific questions after you take a look there, please let us know! π
will have to wait for final product though
Is there anyway to participate any the upcoming alpha testing or am I too late for that?
You can buy one of the pre-order packs ($250+) and gain access to Alpha 2 @vocal swan
How does respawning work? Do you just revive at a node or do you have like a revive on the spot where you died type of thing?
Thanks for the link! This looks promising. Glad to see they are more than a speed buff, I just hope they nail the feeling of them as well!
@lost loom You review at a nearby node as long as you are not corrupted. If you are corrupted, you revive at a random node throughout the zone.
[Question] Regarding the node wars, the wiki states that "vassal nodes cannot declare a node war on their parent node or any of their vassals". Does this mean that a nodes vassal to the same parent node cannot declare war on each other?

Supposedly, respawning is tied into the lore of the game, so we will have to wait and see how that aspect develops for more detail and specifics.
@idle siren are you able to tell us if we will be getting an update on the EU publisher issue before the cosmetics change on the 5th of August?
Has there been any discussion on in-game damage/healing meters (etc) much like mods in WoW, I understand it breaks the emergence a bit, however, many like the competitive nature of knowing that type of information. (including myself)
@trim moon They can't declare war on each other -> They could declare war on an opposing parents vassal though
@dusty ferry The devs don't want in game dps/healing meters/addons/mods/external tools/very limited api
[Question] How detailed will the craftig System be.. Like can i choose/Customize how my sword looks while craftig or am i given a blueprint as in every other mmo.. A Mix would be realy cool..
Will there be Features like in botw with the crock forest.. Would be cool if i can hide my stuff in a specific way only i can know or ppl can find out with way to much effort
Puzzles to be solved and giving great rewards for the first one's and some rewards for the the followers
Customazble skill effects.. The sfx effects.. Like let the fireball be like an ordinary fireball and i can choose the change in it like adding lightning around it or smoke.. Or like in the example Steven gave with the mage/fighter blink rush attack.. Would be willing to pay for the looks like the whole blink movement process looks like i lightningstrike to the enemy..
For me its a Real cool design and Option to Customize Ur character and Support the devs by putting some of those in to the Shop and achivebla throug gameplay if they create New cool looking sfx effects for me to Personalize my character
Not heard of an mmo yet which had skill customization of this caliber
And i think we can trust Steven to not just give US some shady skill sfx to choose from gameplay and Super fuckn awesome ones from the Cash Shop..
Let us get awesome ones from gameplay and other awesome ones from Cash Shop
Do we know if guilds in this game will be able to have a customizable cap? for example have a color slider/design for it? Possibly be able to put their own guild image on the back of it? An example like this would be a game back in the day called Knight Online where you have your own guild and can put your guild emblem on the back and change color and design of that cap.
@stable plover That is unfortunate, thanks for the quick response though!
No cap but custom guild images are a thing
There are cloaks and Hardingβs
Barring
Barding
cool thanks @fair yew
do we know yet if most classes will get some special uses? Like they said rogues will be needed to spot secret loot and i think either mage or ranger also had something similar.
@stable plover Thanks!
@flint ibex Each class will have their own utility skill that will make them stand out somewhat
@flint ibex All classes will have a unique role in the game, as all content will be balanced around an 8-player party containing all of the 8 classes
@teal tusk check out https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Crafting#Item_creation_suite - Customizable item appearance has been mentioned as a possible post launch feature.
There will be storage for your stuff at places in the world.
There are Custom skill effects - The only ones we know of are the alternate ones from the KS, but theoretically more will be made
alright, thanks
When you buy the pre-order package, do you get access to some of the previous skins also?
[Question]: Are Clerics going to use a Staff only? Or is there the option to play with Mace+Shield like in other MMOs?
No @short coral only the current offered skins
And future?
@short coral Nope - The pre-order skins are only available during their month for purchase to anyone - you get the ability to buy the cosmetics individually that came from your tier and below for 5-25$ each
@safe dagger a cleric can play with any weapon they want
Does anyone know the ratio of land to water in the game-world?
Hello Steven
@safe dagger there will be no class lock regarding gear, but will have to see if they get any bonuses from specific weapons
noooo i didnt get to save it
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@safe dagger all classes can play with any wep they want
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can someone DM me the pic ty
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Leak poggy woggy
Nothing.
Poggers
Cries
Was the left arm longer than the right??
It will be our little secret @idle siren
Damn i wanna kill some goblins now
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