If that doesnt work, submit a ticket via:
#questions
hidden crane
junior flint
alright. i kind thought that would work
no idea trying it now.
will give it another hour for the email
;x
hidden crane
Should be 2-5 minutes max :p
junior flint
hey its ashes
it takes time to get us the >>> best
lol. change to google email and to outlook's. let see which comes first 😄
empty fjord
@pliant sparrow was before 2020 up until the december apoc test, then everything got delayed by.. and I quote "Months not years", now you can say 2 years as 24 months. but take that as you want it
warm glen
Will the mmo version will be even released or we will just end up with bt? Because honestly I'm here for YEARS and we got like nothing except another delays
remote axle
@warm glen 
warm glen
I hear soon since idk... 2013?
remote axle
That is impressive, since Kickstarter was launched in 2017
warm glen
Then 2017, but that's still shit lot of time
And maybe I confused aoc with tons of other mmos from kick-start that I watched
desert ivy
2 years is fuck all time for an MMORPG to be developed
It's the most expensive and time consuming genre of game to develop
full badger
@warm glen The average development time for an mmorpg of this size is 5-6 years. Ashes development only started in January 2016 so we're still a good 2 years away from release.
fallow fog
And since they are a new studio with not a lot of employees/experience. You might want to add at least 2 years to that.
weak niche
Arent there a lot of people with experience
fallow fog
I was talking about the company itself. Not the employees. Could have worded it better.
empty fjord
Don't they have many more hands on deck than most other mmo companies?
placid vessel
No, that honor goes to Amazon's mmo company lol.
silent lantern
IDK, i still think Blizzard and the like have more people working on their MMORPGs
cloud raft
I mean, Blizzard is one of the largest gaming companies in the world with decades of experience and releases.
This company is only like 3 years old and already employs over 100 people
dreamy skiff
They employ a number above 40, rest is unclear, as far as I recall
empty fjord
What does the altar of the venerated replace in the freehold?
fading latch
@empty fjord most likely a shrine
empty fjord
what do shrines do?
empty fjord
that sounds bad
fading latch
@empty fjord https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Shrines
empty fjord
Thank you @fading latch !
fading latch
Np
empty fjord
god damn it hurts to see 20 bucks go to xsolla...
they should just stop the monthly rotation of packs until xsolla is gone from the shop
copper nebula
wild phoenix
@plucky pawn When are we going to see what our referrals bought and the unpaid referrals in the new referral systen?
junior flint
How many working days does intrepid takes to reply my email
😦
Ohhhh
Well rip
Yeah as mention few days before can’t receive verify email
Send a ticket
No reply ~
silent lantern
There is nothing going on right now anyway, so chill out and wait for them to respond.
slate solstice
crystal beacon
When next beta for steam ..?
boreal abyss
Unknown
vale turtle
No known dates until Intrepid announces one
wintry adder
Sept 27th will most-likely be the next stream, although nothing official has been mentioned yet.
silk oracle
@wintry adder he was talking about a Playtest :)
slate patio
@plucky pawn you guys at Pax West this year?
tulip hatch
No intrepid is not at Pax Margaret is there for her own stuff however
subtle wagon
mk op with the panels tho
brisk elm
When you buy a pet from the bundle pack do you start with it in game?
fallow fog
No, its just a skin/cosmetic.
brisk elm
Ah ok 👍
buoyant siren
Any date ?
echo oyster
@brisk elm everything in the cash shop is cosmetic only. They can only be put on the same type of item.
quartz mica
when ever this game comes out how much will it cost?
tulip hatch
No box price
15 dollars monthly sub
quartz mica
ok
low vault
ive been debating signing up and making a donation, but i have had failures donating to new games in the past, is there even a guess at when the alpha/beta's will be active for players to test and give input?
placid vessel
Nope, no dates.
austere oxide
Prob never
turbid eagle
will OCE and SEA server be separated or merged? because in here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Servers OCE and SEA written as separated, but I didn't see SEA guild recruitment sub in ashes forum? and many article just say OCE/SEA like it is one server
is SEA getting a server too? or will be merged in OCE?
green rune
Hey Guys!
I am a ESO refugee from Germany and I am really hyped about this Game! What I really liked about ESO is the fact that you could animation cancel every instant skill with a light stack and bar swap cancel as well wich made the rotations of damage dealer really hard to master and fun to execute. Is there gonna be something similar in AoC? And what about weapon skill Iines?
full badger
The devs of Ashes don't intend for your to be able to do animation cancelling in combat
But I guarantee someone will find a way to do it
boreal abyss
@green rune
No
to quote the devs
"This isn't a fighting game, so no, animation cancelling will not be a thing."
full badger
Most devs don't intend for you to be able to do animation cancelling, and yet the players always find a way
boreal abyss
And I do not know what "weapon skill lines" are so I cannot answer 
green rune
@boreal abyss weapon skill line are skills and passives you can get by playing with a 2hand weapon for example. Doesn't the rotation feel boring to execute with a global cool down and kinda boring?
full badger
Anyway, the combat of Ashes will have a mixture of tab target and action skills, and the idea is you will be able to choose which skills you use. So you can have all action skills, or all tab target skills or a mixture
We don't yet know what the global cooldown will be
boreal abyss
@green rune Then kind of?
Weapons in AoC will have their own "skill tree" (based on type of weapon)
While classes might have some form of "passive skills" that increases (not confirmed)
And as Mist said, you can always go for higher % of action skills than tab target skills
(not 100%, think it was like 75% max that someone threw out when discussing it, so nothing 100% confirmed in ratio either)
green rune
Alright thx Guys!
unreal storm
any info about servers? ? ?
slow meadow
No new dates at this time. Just keep an eye on the NEWS channels
dark jungle
ive not heard anything about cosmetics transferring from mmo to apoc
quartz coral
🤔😔😒
dark jungle
anything is possible i guess
quartz coral
Thanks @simple ether still kind of a border line statement tho , if you know what I mean
tulip hatch
Apoc items transfer to the MMO but MMO items will not go to Apoc
If you want a quote at this time I can not provide that
The statement Jahlon pointed out does refer to seeing the cosmetics in apoc but having it for us to use was never stated just as a preview kinda deal
quartz coral
@tulip hatch I figure by the sound of the statement that it was just a demo of the mmo cosmetics. So now I have to ask what cosmetics are in the intrepid store? Apoc or AoC ?????????
@simple ether
fading latch
@quartz coral AoC. Every monthly cycle ever has been AoC
quartz coral
Are you sure? @fading latch
🤔 where does it say that? And does that make apoc cosmetics of more value because they are useable in both games?
Trolling
Lol
tulip hatch
the shop does state Ashes of Creation shop not apocalypse
quartz coral
Jk
vast crescent
Any idea if intrepid plans on creating a Dev Roadmap for the community?
fading latch
@vast crescent No dates unless confirmed via Steven. So unlikely. Maybe in the future closer to Alpha 1
vast crescent
okay thanks. I could've sworn i heard they were going to try that months back but I'm probably wrong
mighty carbon
I just hope it comes out before my time is up tbh
crystal beacon
I'll be honest i hope it comes out period.
tender wren
I hope it comes out before star citizen 
meager flame
regal oak
New shop items today?
regal oak
boreal abyss
@regal oak Name checks out
foggy halo
it has been another month without a node article, so i thought i'd ask again
heady quartz
what kind of answer do you expect except "when its ready"?
turbid eagle
soon
foggy halo
it seems like is has been ready for a while and is waiting for approval
i get it steven is a busy man and apoc is probably more important atm, but i can't help but wonder where this article is
boreal abyss
foggy halo
you mean the chats where ppl are memeing all day?
feral phoenix
so when will i be able to play
feral phoenix
I see.
open sierra
@tight gale Can we play Alpha of the mmorpg this year, or atleast can we see some gameplay in some of the livestreams this year? What are your thoughts?
boreal abyss
Remember, no answer means no. They just don't want to pronounce the "no"
desert ivy
No way Alpha releases this year
vale turtle
A0, already done. A1, we don't know when
serene sparrow
Maybe my concern is misplaced but, I am a little worried about the amount of cosmetics every month. I understand their will be recolored versions in the actual game but by the time it comes out will their be any unique armors that have not already been available to purchase?
stable plover
We expect there to be about as many cosmetics earnable in game of a comparable quality to the Cosmetic Shop ones.
serene sparrow
Thank you for the quick reply. Do we know if those will be completely different or just recolors/small changes?
Maybe to early to tell.
stable plover
We're expecting mainly small change versions -
For example these horses are all modified versions of base horse
There's a dye system in game to handle slight color variation.
Which is probably more like the different colors of horses shown in the making of the horse video.
silent lantern
If i am not mistaken, variations of the sold skins can also be earned in game.. at least some of them i think
serene sparrow
I would consider the 2 on the left big differences from the far right one. I suppose my worry is that their might not be any "new" unique armor looks to discover when the game comes out.
silent lantern
I doubt there will be more cosmetics than in-game models tbh
that would be bad
Plus, the cosmetics are 1 piece, and in game you will br able to mix and match your different gear models as far as i know
serene sparrow
Thats true. That does help a lot in terms of armor variants.
stable plover
The "Costumes" are one piece, some of the cosmetics like say the backpack or belt are single mix and match pieces.
silent lantern
I think they showed a backpack and specifically said that many of the elemets will be customizable for in game items
serene sparrow
Thanks everyone for answering my questions. I think that puts my worries aside.
native glacier
Is the thundering bolt beast a pet or a mount skin?
And if it’s a mount skin, how will that work without there being flying mounts for everyone?
small pecan
@native glacier, it’s a mount skin! The game will have a few types of mounts, including grounded, gliding, and flying. It is a gliding pet skin. Gliding pets can not fly; they can simply glide downwards potentially with a few jumping or leaping skills. Intrepid has not (and I believe said they will not) sell flying skins
native glacier
@small pecan thank you so much!
I truly think this is an amazing skin and I can’t wait to see it in person!!!
I just wish that they would put a little more work into their shop, for a clearer understanding.
small pecan
Great to hear! It is pretty sweet, haha—and don’t worry! Making the shop more clear is on their agenda. Intrepid has been getting a lot of feedback on that recently
open granite
open granite
So in the future it will be possible to buy cosmetics from previous months?
slow meadow
cosmetics are only available in the timeframe they are up. after that they will not be back.
crystal beacon
I have submitted 2 support requests to reset the Authenticator tied to my account and have not gotten a response from Intrepid. Does anyone know if they have simply stopped all support? I can’t log into the forums, and missed out on the last round of APOC
acoustic rune
Steven said that he cant talk about it as of now
slow meadow
Has Intrepid commented on making them available retroactively? Depending on how long it takes to fix their availability I wouldn't count on getting them since that is likely going to be a headache in itself.
@crystal beacon usually you can ping @tight gale or @plucky pawn if you are having issues with support requests. Unless that has changed in which case I am sorry for pinging them 😉
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon Please DM me your support ticket # if you haven't already done so, so that I can pass it along to the team!
mossy cave
There was a slight delay over the 3-day weekend, but I'm all caught up on tickets opened during that time 😉
crystal beacon
Thanks for the replies @slow meadow @plucky pawn @simple ether I got sidetracked right after I posted my question
eager forge
Is the kickstarter upgrade thingy still a thing? or did you remove that
tulip hatch
You can still upgrade kickstarter packs
eager forge
so if i upgrade to the braver pack as a kickstarter backer i still gain the same rewards or just the ones outside of it?
its pretty poorly worded on the package itself tbh
tulip hatch
you gain the kickstarter rewards
eager forge
alright, thanks @tulip hatch
pale tiger
hey , can we play beta game?
mellow ridge
@pale tiger not yet, but take a look at ashes101.com everything you need and can know is there
flint barn
Would it be possible to implement a feature on the store where you could buy cosmetics with embers?
worthy schooner
pretty sure that's what they are for. I get what you're saying, you mean right now on the online store but atm afaik you can only use them on APOC when that comes up next and whenever AoC MMO releases with the cosmetic shop
full badger
@pale tiger Not right now. We just recently did a 24 hour test and now the game is offline while they work on it more. We'll be told when we can test the game again.
wintry adder
24 hour?
full badger
Yep, the last APOC test lasted just 24 hours.
vale turtle
+- 12h afaik
winter canyon
Still no updates on siege right?
hidden crane
None at the moment.
As of the most recent livestream, they spoke about numerous systems that they are working on for the siege, but we dont have any dates yet.
abstract drift
Anyone know of a centralized location I can peek at what we know about crafting so far? I find lots of little snippets, just not sure if there's a good collection for a better whole-picture "what we know" thing.
ruby swift
Nope, snippets is it atm.
abstract drift
Alright. Thank you.
abstract drift
Ah. Nice. Not gonna lie. Didn't think about looking for a wiki. Was just poking around the main site and the forums. Probably should have checked for that! Thanks again
silent lantern
@vale turtle no it was just -12 
boreal abyss
Did anyone say crafting picture?! 
@abstract drift
abstract drift
Nice!
boreal abyss
@abstract drift
https://www.theaocdungeon.com/threads/a-look-at-crafting-in-ashes-of-creation.291/
If you are interested.
Doesn't contain the newer info that "One can master all professions in either Gathering, Processing or Crafting, but only one category" tidbit of info we got recently tho
abstract drift
Lots of details there. Appreciate it.
true kettle
Thanks for more info😉 🍓 @boreal abyss
pallid stratus
howcome there is now a 2nd Voyage Plus Pre-Order Pack in the website's shop?
plucky pawn
@pallid stratus Both last month's and this month's items are currently available for a short window, but last month's items will be disappearing at 11AM PT today! (in about 17 minutes) - you can check #web-maintenance for more details 🙂
pallid stratus
so the original stuff listed is being completely replaced?
stable plover
@pallid stratus If you already had any of the stuff from a previous pack you keep that, but if you want stuff in the future can only make purchases from the current months stuff
pallid stratus
so if i want the cosmetics from the new Voyager Plus Pack, i gotta buy that for $375 as well? 
stable plover
If you already own a pack, cosmetics from your tier and lower can be purchased individually, and if you upgrade a pack say last months voyager pack to this months voyager plus pack - you'd only get the 3 cosmetics that don't come in this months voyager pack without buying them as singles - besides things like the difference in embers and gametime
plucky pawn
@pallid stratus Nope, make sure you're logged in and you'll be able to see the individual items for purchase each month!
pallid stratus
oh cock, i wasn't logged in - now i see
sharp fractal
We know that the majority races progression in a node decides the architecture of town that pops up.
For towns that pop up in the underrealm nodes. Will the fact they are in the underrealm affect ther architecture?
Will dragons also look different depending om the type of town/town location
stable plover
@sharp fractal We have a quote that dragon appearances are based on region of origin, so I assume yes on town location.
Speculation: I assume Underrealm nodes will partially have their architecture affected. We know each node is supposed to have some features unique to that node, so I would expect that to be particularly on display when comparing an above ground / Underrealm node - I assume at least some of the in-node housing wouldn't be particularly affected because of players making the cosmetic choices.
sharp fractal
Ty :D
hidden crane
They have also said that the dragon shown recently was Orc themed and the other race themed dragons will come later
fervent hamlet
Will items made by good artisans be almost as good as legendary items?
hearty linden
If we don’t want to kill a dragon out of respect for it being a dragon, can we instead worship it and built a deeply-rooted cult into our node’s political system? I’m thinking robes, sacrifices - the whole nine yards.
oblique burrow
stark pike
how much is the game gonna cost when it comes out?
urban echo
Monthly sub, $15 I think. No box cost.
stark pike
like i am really into ashes of creation and it looks epic and i am super hype, but i can not afford 15$ a month
dim shuttle
You have quite a while between now and release to get a raise or find a better job or cut your expenses by $15
merry frigate
id prefer if it was B2P, though Subs are ok as well.
fading latch
@merry frigate B2P mmorpgs are impossible to maintain without charging for expansions and having conveniance items/p2w. Subscription based means we can have a vanity only cash shop and get all expansions free
wraith blaze
Will all classes possess an “ultimate skill”?
stable plover
@wraith blaze I assume that'll take testing to figure out, also depending a bit on which thing you call a classes 'ultimate skill'. There were literal 'ultimate skills' in A0 that seemed intended for all classes to have, but they relied on focus building, which we haven't seen since A0. There are also the 'Group skills' that take like 8 summoners or 8 tanks that may or may not be intended for all archetypes.
wraith blaze
I see, thanks for the info
grim plinth
allah
silent lantern
The crafting graph above is at best an example. We have no idea what professions will be in the game
warm glen
Did alpha 1 started?
stable plover
@warm glen A1 for the mmo has not started - We don't have it's start date yet, but there are theoretically at least two APOC testing phases to go before then (Castle Siege and Horde mode)
warm glen
Is there any info when will it start? I remember them saying that it would start this year
hidden crane
We dont have any ETA at the moment!
stable plover
Back in March the game had a pushback in schedule for an unstated length of time
hidden crane
The game is in active development so keep an eye on #news and check their social media to stay up to date.
hallow kite
The FAQ mentions that there is no true fast travel, will there be at least some form of fast travel? I hated having to spend well over 20 mins getting to distant locations in BDO entirely by horse....
celest owl
20 lel?
regal pewter
Someone had a bad horse...
boreal abyss
@hallow kite
- Run
- Mount
- Airship (In selective nodes (Metros)
- Teleport Gate (Maybe in Science Metros)
Afaik
weak niche
airships are between scientific metropolises if there are multiple, teleportation is between scientific metros and their vassal nodes
wild phoenix
@plucky pawn When are we going to see what our referrals bought and the unpaid referrals in the new referral systen?
boreal abyss
@weak niche ty for the clarification
uncut reef
lo all, been a while since i checked in... just had to migrate my account when i went to login to forum. thats all ok now but i notice i cant see my pledge and other purchases anymore on my account... can i chat with support about this?
I can see purchases, but they are not labelled and are dated august this year instead of way back when
ok, so this is normal?
ok, appreciate the response. how long should i expect to wait before i can see the correct details in my purchase screen?
yes i got that. that was my first alarm bell 😉
vale turtle
You actual purchase date should be in your invoice (probably in your e-mail or paypal)
uncut reef
Yes, i have those details. its the fact that they were wrong that got me worried in the first place
ok, i'd just like to know how long that took. "fairly quickly" just leaves me wondering what that really means
no
I was asking about the purchase information. and i'm not making an issue. i'm asking questions
you said yours updated "fairly quickly", i'm asking what that actually means. its your words, not mine
was it "morning after", or 30 minutes? if you dont know cant remember thats fine, i'd just liek to know
ok, mine are not. its been almost an hour
I'm not blaming anyone or complaining. i'd just like to know if its something to worry about. thanks anyway
ok, thank you
fair garden
Will the MMO portion of ashes have a beta trial like apoc? Or will we just have to sit and wait in anticipation
crystal beacon
I hope this isn't a dumb question but with the "shadowed spire" item in the pre order voyager plus pack this month... what does that mean, are we buying a literal building we can place anywhere? Are we paying for access to a top floor at that physical location?
boreal abyss
@crystal beacon
It's a 'Skin' you put over a certain Freehold Building type
Ie "Shrine" is one building type, "Smithy" is another type
faint plume
when is the next testing session
weak niche
to be announced
faint plume
where am i going to see it
small pecan
It’ll be posted in #news-aoc-apoc or #news, along with social media notifications
faint plume
thank you i apreciate it
small pecan
Np!
hardy viper
What features will the referrals have beside referral link? will we be able to see unpaid earnings, visits and such?
wild phoenix
Come on Intrepid.....Lets hear a reply on that question
loud elbow
Hmm how do I get the member role to post in other channels?
hardy viper
you have a soundbite for the return of them Jahlon?
loud elbow
;o nvm
hardy viper
youre right about the 13th july, but i dont see any thing about the unpaid earnings, visit and all the other stuff the old system had
actually i read it as its complete (beside referral link)
i would like to see that picture... if i have seen it i forgot.... but my memory aint the best 😄
hardy viper
sorry i misunderstood
wild phoenix
I'd like to see something in writing from Intrepid Studios about it.
crisp onyx
I have been playing wow classic ever since it launched and for this weekend there have been DDOS attacks. taking the servers down. Does Intrepid have something in place to deal wih DDOS attacks???
remote axle
Everyone has certain anti-ddos mechanics to prevent that, but its very difficult. Not even Blizzard is able to prevent massive amounts of traffic slamming their servers.
crisp onyx
yes but does it include chocolate chip cookies??
rigid steppe
!test
vale turtle
Probably, idk people buy the weirdest stuff if they want something to happen
@rigid steppe No ETAs on testing. It will come when they announce it
vale turtle
Though better specs will result in a better viewing/playing experience ofc
peak fog
no worries, vant wait for it
crisp onyx
I filled out your survey, Jahlon
ionic eagle
So i have a question - May have been answered but i cant remember nor can I find it. Lets say im playing as a Archwizard. would i be able to equip full plate or is armor going to be class locked like in other MMOs
Understandably if an Archamage does do this it wouldnt be wise. Just curious.
desert ivy
You can equip whatever you want
ionic eagle
That is what i thought i remember being said but wasnt sure. thank you Talents!
slow meadow
relevant quote
gray burrow
i was trying to set up 2 factor authentication and when it wants me to enter the 6 digit code i keep getting this error (i have entered about 15 codes and still get this)
plucky pawn
@gray burrow That's not good! Which app are you using for 2 factor authentication?
gray burrow
google authenticator @plucky pawn
plucky pawn
And you're just now setting it up for the first time, and this is asking you to confirm your 2 factor code to set it up? Are you accessing the website on desktop or mobile?
gray burrow
just now setting it up google authenticator is on mobile but intrepid website is on desktop
plucky pawn
Okay, please message me directly @gray burrow so we can help troubleshoot this further, and I'll see if I can reproduce it myself 🙂
silk oracle
@gray burrow make sure that your phone has time and date on automatic
@plucky pawn that's a problem I had before. Phone was a minute off and generated invalid codes
gray burrow
thanks it worked!
silk oracle
gray burrow
XD
plucky pawn
WHOA @silk oracle good looking out, that's a good one to note for the future if anyone else has the same issue! And @gray burrow glad to hear that worked!
oak bridge
How will ashes of creations graphics compare to black deserts?
small pecan
@oak bridge, there’s a good body of early footage from both the MMO and Apocalypse (a separate game that uses assets from the MMO) out there! You can expect the graphics to remain in that style and be cleaned up at least a bit
full badger
@oak bridge Assuming they keep the same graphics style (I don't see why they would change it), this is a good example of graphics in Ashes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ih84Xh5E8
Baring in mind this is pre-alpha footage so there isn't nearly as much detail as you would see in BDO.
wooden spade
Strictly speaking numbers, @plucky pawn , Do you have a general clue as to what an ATI 280X R9 would be able to handle at the current level of AoC's development of graphics, if you were to compare it to what you guys are using and looking at benchmarks of other cards?
Top-of-the-line 2014 technology up in here 🤣
"Minimum Recommended..." Hmmm....
That tells me I CAN run it, but not how welll, though.
plucky pawn
You can check out our minimum and recommended specs for Apocalypse here: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016315813-What-are-the-minimum-system-requirements-for-Ashes-of-Creation-Apocalypse- - some other folks with similar hardware may be able to share what their recent experience was like!
wooden spade
Thanks, @plucky pawn , And Thank you too, @simple ether !
Hmmm... sitting at just past 11GB total Vmem. Based off of the numbers, I could run it at 50-75% of max.
TIME FOR A NEW CARD!!
junior ore
.... wait for vmem? .....
weak spoke
I have a question about class skills like how there’s a track skill what do tanks have
crystal beacon
Kann ich einen Test Acc haben für Zwei Monate ? um das spiel für meinen Freundeskreis zu Testen!?
Can I have a trial account for two months? to test the game for my circle of friends !?
stable plover
@weak spoke The tank equivalent skill is an ability that allows the tank to view mob spawn locations - Subject to change and whatnot.
weak spoke
thanks also dont see why that would be helpful on a tank. i get rouge can see tracks and mages and since magic traps but the tank one just sounds odd
also how does respecing work and making alts work do u need to make multiple character if i want a healer tank and dps or can i respec a character
viral torrent
To me it sounds reasonable. If you're the tank and know mob spawn locations you know where to go!
acoustic rune
You can change a subclass. Very much doubt that you can swap an archetype.
weak spoke
so i can swap from paladin to spellshield
weak spoke
neat
boreal abyss
You will most likely have to "relevel" the new 2nd archetype tho
whatever that entails
buoyant siren
HI all! any release date?
heady quartz
release? ha! we dont even have next BR testing date
remote axle
@buoyant siren Hey, we do not currently have a release date.
true kettle
beta date would be better 😇
weak spoke
🔫 make playable now I don’t care if the games broken
Still likely to play better than bless online
meager ledge
Im just ready for some content. The gaming landscape is boring as fuck right now.
I guess that wasnt a question. lol
viral torrent
Not quite, no. lol
ivory kiln
I had read that collision is confirmed in game. What I want to know is if it will only apply to PvP situations, or will it apply to all aspects of the game when it comes to you and other players? I for one am hopeful if collision is applied across the board. I have been reading people saying that it’s just not possible with the scale they want. I’d like to reassure everyone that it is very possible and I have seen it done a couple times with them being Planetside 1 and Planetside 2. For those of you that may not have noticed Intrepid picked up like a quarter of the SOE developers from these 2 games. I’m sure they have an idea of how to pull it off.
hardy axle
I have some ancient post on the forums covering the technical gumpf but ps2 is 2k max players per continent, you are at least one order of magnitude away from what this should produce
dusk nova
Collision as in... players can block other players with their bodies?
Every MMO i've played with that feature has kind of been a nightmare, ngl... people block others from accessing entire zones or NPCs
remote axle
@dusk nova yes, collision as in blocking
dusk nova
bleh
worthy schooner
TRACTOR TEAM 6
stable plover
foggy plover
@dusk nova force pvp then
foggy plover
Are there any plans for adding/moving professions to the processing artisan path?
Oh
Okay
dusk nova
@foggy plover generally the issue doesn't happen in PVP zones... its in cities or other 'safe' zones
foggy plover
But if such issues does occur, how do you get through?
If it is an open space, then we could probably jump
but in a doorway we would get stuck
silk oracle
add a way to push people away 
dusk nova
That only works to a certain extent >_> people troll and then others join in, next thing you know you have 100 people parked infront of a doorway/zone/npc
hidden crane
They've acknowledged the need for both things - collision and situations where collision is an issue.
We'll be seeing the solutions that they have come up with during Alpha 1 and future testing phases.
That said, they've been incredibly flexible with development, including re-iterating things constantly throughout development, so anything regarding collision could change as we make our way to release.
viral torrent
player collision only outside towns might help
And intentionally blocking should be forbidden
glass swallow
Removing blocking can arguably break elements of immersion if it is taken to levels that are too high
I get the goal of preventing things like blocking NPC's and such. But think caravans, who would not love to create a barricade to funnel would be victims into a trap to harvest their caravan?
dusk nova
Trouble with only allowing it outside of towns is the sieges of said towns, which would change the PVP metas in town vs open world
glass swallow
how do you find balance when something like this is very defining to gameplay?
boreal abyss
So you're sauing....
let us be able to fell trees onto road etc to force caravans to stop or alter route?
dreamy skiff
Now you are hyping your own expectations. Willing to bet that aside from special "event trees" it aint happening
placid vessel
^ Agreed. Not to mentoin that sawing a tree to block the path of a caravan seems grief-like to me.
junior ore
Reminds me of the bdo tent early days blocking bridges 😂 Honestly if a majority of the world is pvp collision shouldn’t be much of an issue Just kill the prick....except in safe zones of which i would assume there some simple way to do it.. even something like an out of combat short range bdo iframe would null any collision griefing Just phase 10 units fwd ignoring all player models only?
quartz coral
what year is aoc set in?
fading latch
@quartz coral Fictional world
tender wren
zones are supposed to be open to my understanding, so blocking a zone would require a circle all around the area which would require like 10k people, which is the entire population of the server
its not an inatanced mmo like ff14 or something
stable plover
@quartz coral I don't think we have an outright date like the year 5206 yet. Most of the dates that we do have are currently pre and post-APOC. The Pyrian Royal Elven family existed for at least 4000 years before the apocalypse (which is the oldest date I can find) and the ancestors were away during the Apocalypse for a good bit more than 150 years (Steven mentions 150 years after APOC as still being pre-Tulnar)
quartz coral
Good insight. Thank you @stable plover
fading latch
There is no correlation to the real world time however. If that is what you meant
primal plank
Question. I fully realize the importance of the stress tests that apocalypse provides, and kudos for figuring out the best method for stress test available. However, I personally prefer the PvE aspect of games while dabbling in PvP. Has there been any further developments or announcements on alpha phase 2 at this time?
ruby swift
Nope, no timelines have been given. There wont be any announcement of A2 till after A1 mmo if that helps. You got some time. Sit back and sip a chai.
primal plank
Sounds good! I thought as much, but never hurts to ask.
ruby swift
No one in any official capacity has released a schedule, but the "community" thinks it will go like this. More BR, siege, horde, A1mmo, A2mmo.....and so on. Again, no one in any position of real knowledge has confirmed or denied that.
eternal hound
hey guys. i tried to uninstall the game as i need disk space but this thing wont go away
acoustic rune
Use the system uninstall app or iobit uninstaller with leftover deletion tab checked
vale turtle
I believe there is also an Intrepid-made uninstall guide somewhere. I don't have the link atm, but someone here may
hidden crane
@eternal hound Follow these steps to clean uninstall:
worthy schooner
coming in clutch
plucky pawn
@eternal hound @vale turtle We do have a guide for uninstalling/removing old files here: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016316113-How-do-I-uninstall-the-game-
silk oracle
@plucky pawn why not add a tick box in the next installer wich removes the old folders ?
☑ Clean install
plucky pawn
@silk oracle it would have to depend on where you had installed things previously, I would think 🤔
silk oracle
i´m sure that thats saved somewhere. ask the coders about it maybe ?
because that little thing might save alotta trouble
junior ore
@plucky pawn I’m impatient. Are we going to have to wait until next stream for any type of update? 
I’m hungry for info!!
stable plover
It's pretty safe to expect lots of tiny bits of info from Intrepid before the next stream - looking through from:Steven#8582 is a good way of keeping track of some of that - like in the last week we've had pics of the new office, some descriptions of new office not covered by the pics, that you can't heal mobs people are fighting, Steven mentions large changes to the way melee works, changes to support combat hybridization are mentioned, Steven mentions needing some footage to be revised. If you want larger chunks of information that's more for like the dev blogs (which we'll probably have one before the next stream) and streams.
fallow fog
While i like Steven teasing us stuff. It removes most of the excitement for the next news/livestream/development update. As a lot of things that they show us, is already been teased before..
crystal beacon
How committed is the team to the holy Trinity and what are their ideas on dependence and Independence of class and roll?
stable plover
@crystal beacon You should really read some quotes from the devs on that one - If you want a TL;DR from me - They include 'support' as part of the healing end of the triangle when they mention it, and they intend for secondary archetypes and augment choices to be able to pull a character away from their point in the triangle (or keep them firmly there).
hidden crane
Additionally, to add onto the Trinity system - The developers are firm on balancing content based on group play, not solo play. This means classes will be balanced based on how they perform in a large group. Picture a rock-paper-scissors type format where X class will be better at a certain objective than Y class.
stable plover
They have no intention of removing dedicated tanks/healers if that's the question.
crystal beacon
Okay so as long as they don't veer away from specialization in roll I think I should be good it's a good answer and I I like the idea of support but only so far as it can help the entirety of the team and not just one roll over the other and thank you guys for the time.
ruby swift
role
half stream
Whats the use of referrals in the AoC site??
also, whats the referral rate means?
ruby swift
half stream
Thank you
fresh heart
Well, I mean, "dedicated healers" will be doing a significant amount more damage/attacking than in typical MMORPGs, since the devs don't want healers to just be focused on healing.
novel sequoia
I was looking at the game and I saw how the game is big on the economy, so I was wondering if Real World Trading was encouraged/allowed or tolerated/bannable
stable plover
Trading in game goods for money / other real world things is not allowed.
novel sequoia
Thank you @stable plover
Gotcha, that is was I assumed, but since I saw that it was so economy focused I didn't know if they wanted to have that be almost like a feature. Makes me feel better though, that way people get what they deserve, not what their wallet can dish out.
weak niche
it's a big draw for most people following
novel sequoia
not having it or having it?
well obviously not having it nevermind... i typed before I thought
novel sequoia
amen to that though
placid vessel
Not having, personally. RMT has ruined and made me quit many, many mmos.
placid vessel
I really hope a permaban is punishment for rmt involvement instead of a slap on the wrist.
novel sequoia
I agree, no warnings.
placid vessel
Honestly, even in ffxiv players have bought gold with no punishment, and I always hated that
novel sequoia
yeah got me pissed off in RS when I saw people doing it to
we should move over to general discussion 😄
honest edge
Hey guys do you think
the Shadowed Spire freehold skin will come with the storm above it?
worthy schooner
Doubt it
In the past i remember toast said that some effects shown on the pictures won't be reflected ingame
placid vessel
That's misleading.
worthy schooner
Would also be super obnoxious and immersion breaking walking across freeholds with 100s of different area effects
Imagine walking past that storm then the next freehold being some snow covered building
acoustic rune
I think passive particle effect are obnoxious in general
acoustic rune
Never seen some who looks like he got shitted on by a unicorn and thought "wish. Looks lit"
acoustic rune
Aight
iron gorge
doesnt seem like theres been news in a while whats going on rn
ruby swift
We are in a holding pattern while they rip the guts out of melee combat after the last test.
pallid horizon
Did I miss any new news, leaks,...etc?
stable plover
@pallid horizon In the last week; we've had pics of the new office, some descriptions of new office not covered by the pics, a set of armor on snapchat, that you can't heal mobs people are fighting, melee revamp, changes to support combat hybridization between action/tab mentioned.
silent lantern
Ohh, das rights.. It's move time soon..
oblique steeple
Do player kills and instanced PvP give exp?
round belfry
fading latch
@oblique steeple PvP is one of the methods of experience. In terms of sheer numbers given, there is no info.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Leveling
loud seal
ik it's asked 50 000 times a day but i'm lazy :/ ETA of the game ? i mean when will server be open 24/7 i get all access
fading latch
No information. Any dates given by Intrepid will posted as and when they come @loud seal
woeful zephyr
I think that depends on if you were granted an A0 key
A0 is confusing, I still don't even understand their plans
worthy schooner
A0 has been afaik and next is alpha1
desert ivy
Well he means he already has had access to Alpha 0. He has the Alpha 0 tag.
mighty pilot
Is the referral link still not working?
tulip hatch
@mighty pilot
Referrals are working but they use codes now instead of links.
smoky meteor
So do we have a date for expected Alpha 1?
west solstice
Within the next (few) decades.
crystal beacon
Will there be UI for us to differentiate tank, healer, and DPS for the opposing team in PVP?
crystal beacon
User Interface
full badger
Do you need a ui for that? I would just look at the characters and see what they are doing personally
crystal beacon
I mean that's obvious, I'm asking if it will exist either way. Because people can go out of their way to not look like a healer, or DPS or Tank. I'm asking if Masking will be helpful, if there's no UI to label us.
weak niche
Yeah more than likely we'll see the class
I don't think it makes sense to label healer dps or tank and I don't think they can with grey areas in between also one of the archetypes is literally tank so..
ornate imp
Unless they have cosmetic/costume on. Might be difficult
And with so many classes who knows what combo they will have
ruby swift
<Speculation answer> I doubt you will see archetype icons floating over everyones head like SWTOR or other mmos. Statements made in the past (I know everything is subject to change), visuals from A0 and APOC, and other indicators when costumes and their roles in gameplay has given me the distinct impression that they are not going to go that route. If you are looking for a game where you can look at someone and tell what they are and how you might go best about countering them at a glance, doubt this will be for you. Beyond extensive cosmetic alteration, throw any archetype/race/gender can use any weapon or armor with differing levels of aptitude into the mix and the no visible health numbers above mobs, just a health bar that became more "ragged" in earlier iterations going to be impossible. Sure, over time the "gitgud" crowd will adapt. "I saw him cast a fireball, but why was it purple?" (promised skill color variations through purchase or earned in game). Unless they end up with cookie cutter builds that are the "best", something they have also said they will actively try to avoid happening.
undone topaz
how does one buy separate cosmetic when they have a my.com pack
i know how it works on the regular store but don't see anything about it on my.com
boreal abyss
@undone topaz
You can't
They don't sell separate cosmetics (for some reason)
Have to ask Intrepid when something will be done about this as they control everything regarding cosmetics according to themselves
fading latch
@undone topaz the individual cosmetics will be coming at a later date closer to launch with the full list available for my.com users. So dont worry
undone topaz
ah ok
fading latch
So you will get your chance :) just not at this minute
Including all those that you guys missed
boreal abyss
So EU ppl, if you missed the "timed exclusive" cosmetics, just migrate your account over and buy them then 😄
fading latch
Well it doesnt matter because they will get full access to the list of cosmetics that were released before launch @boreal abyss
They just have to wait
boreal abyss
That wasn't my point anywyas 😉
fading latch
@boreal abyss oh right yeah i read it again and get what u mean. Thats what it seems aye
crisp onyx
I was looking through my purchased inventory today and according to what I see i was charged for and received the same item twice. i only wanted it once. how do i go about getting a refund for the copy??
it was through xsolla.
mossy cave
👋 Feel free to open a support ticket at https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com, we can assist 🙂
native glacier
Does the cloak of crackling skies ring give you an aura around your character?
tulip hatch
The coil of crackling skies is just a ring skin, it does not have effects
vagrant aspen
woeful zephyr
No end date for upgrade so far, Steven said it wouldn't end anytime soon
wraith blaze
Is Intrepid Studios going to participate in GDC 2020? 2021+?
open sierra
GDC?
desert ivy
Yes definitely
stable plover
@wraith blaze It's too early for Intrepid to have announced GDC plans for 2020/2021 - For reference, Steven made the decision on PAX East about five weeks beforehand this year / Intrepid being at GDC 2018 was announced 18(ish) days beforehand.
white sequoia
any letter due soon? i thought we would have had some insight to last play test by now and some perhaps schedule for the next one
fading latch
@white sequoia nothing has neen announced. PI had a closed test for new combat changes very recently
white sequoia
oh rightio ty mate
fading latch
So expect something soon 🤘
native glacier
@tulip hatch Thanks again for the info👍🏼
quiet birch
I've heard that at the beginning of October the date for alpha1 will be announced, I missed something?
heady quartz
where did you hear that?
boreal abyss
Your friend must have misunderstood sometihng cause nothing of the sort has been said
quiet birch
Aah rip... Thanks
fading latch
They cant go to Alpha 1 till they have completed siege and horde mode first in apocalypse. They are the foundations of testing for the alpha 1 testing state. Long wait to go yet @quiet birch
quiet birch
I knew it too, so it seemed strange to me
fading latch
Might wanna let your friend know 😅
silent lantern
When we gun see something? Hur dur
covert plank
@plucky pawn Steven said that people that hold the 500 Intrepid pack as well as Kickstarter packs would get a lifelong season pass for Apoc. During the last Q and A session with Steven i brought this up, he said he would check on it. Is this still the case or do holders need to buy the pass.
plucky pawn
@covert plank As was called out in our original messaging to folks, "all Alpha One backers will have lifetime access to the Legendary path. We will also be giving all Beta and Alpha Two backers access to the first Chapter's Legendary path" - which will already be in your inventory from previously 🙂
covert plank
plucky pawn
If for some reason you think you should have Season 1 of the compendium based on the above and you don't, please reach out to our support team so we can assist you further!
covert plank
@plucky pawn Thank you, I was unsure because Steven was unsure. Glad to hear none KS holders will get lifetime access to the path.
oblique cedar
What if we bought the legendary path and are a alpha two tester... will we be refunded?
plucky pawn
@oblique cedar Did you purchase it before it had been granted to your account, or was there some other issue? Please go ahead and open a support ticket so our team can help you further with this!
oblique cedar
It was purchased when apocalypse was open in the beginning of the year
plucky pawn
Okay! Back at that time, we let folks know that they would be getting it as part of their package, but I know there may have been a brief window before that occurred 🙂 like I mentioned, our team can help you out more with this!
oblique cedar
I'll definitely create a tocket 👌
plucky pawn
Tyty! Feel free to DM me the # once you've done so, and I'll pass it along to the team
grave night
Will I have to login to re-name myself again? Or will it remember last time we changed it?
plucky pawn
@grave night Are you asking whether the in-game name you set for yourself previously will persist? When was the last time you play tested?
grave night
Yeah during the 12 hours play session, i renamed myself. Will I have to do it again if I want the same name?
Last played was 12 hours the game was open(the last public test)
sinful raptor
if there is going to be horde mode testing, in the future. Does this mean some dungeons(for the MMO perspective) have you facing off against giant horde sized waves at certain points? (cause then that would be cool!) There was an old school RPG game that had you face off against HUGE waves of enemies years ago on the Xbox, it was kind of like Dynasty Warriors vs A Tidal Wave of Goblins etc.
OR is Horde Mode going to be something different, kind of how Gears does Horde Mode?
plucky pawn
I believe your name should persist from previous testing @grave night , if you had set it before!
ruby swift
Did they fix the names being too long just assigning random string names? My account name only ever displays as some random string. Which is fun. But should not be a thing.
Player64583258 for example when I had just gone with account name.
plucky pawn
@ruby swift that's not a matter of names being too long; it auto-assigns you an alphanumeric player name the first time you log in (so it's NOT your account name, in case that contained personal info) - upon that first login, it shows you that random name and prompts you to change it!
(but like I mentioned, if you had already changed it in a prior test, it should persist from that test!)
ruby swift
Hmmm...didnt participate in the last 12 hours test. But I had assigned one each play session in the December tests and had that happen. Will see next week and post if there is an issue. Thanks for the answer.
fallow fog
Since i didnt see it in the patch notes. Are other keyboard layouts supported now? Its been asked for since last year. @plucky pawn
leaden tiger
how long sep 24 test doing? i cant find enddate
dark jungle
it will keep going, at least until they find a major bug
leaden tiger
thx
pure moth
do you think AoC will be realeased as mmo before 2020 ?
crystal beacon
I'm guessing 2039
Let's enjoy Apoc as of now, while we wait for the MMO
So 24/9 next test ..?
crystal beacon
Thats good
lofty mica
Anyone in southeast Asia? Interested if thers any community at all.
lusty cedar
@lofty mica hi lol
worthy schooner
@lofty mica https://discord.gg/5fYFbd
quasi latch
Very weird question will there be dual wield crossbow or dual wield arcane pistols
reef prawn
No pistols as of yet. Don't know about dual wielding crossbows either, seeing as crossbows are two-handed weapons in apocalypse, it is doubtful
quasi latch
😦
storm raptor
We need to remove the last launcher to play this alpha test?
lusty cedar
^You need to manually remove the old files, they have included a link on their announcement
@storm raptor
fading latch
@quasi latch you have 2 weapon slots and 1 ranged weapon slot. So no dual wielding crossbows will not be a thing. And gunpowder weapons are not a weapon either in Ashes.
elfin stratus
wheres the steam page?
tulip hatch
Steam page wont be up until the 24th
elfin stratus
thx
uneven wave
Hey all, recently i factory reset my phone, but i lost access to my google authenticator. Now I can no longer log in to my account due to not being able to get my AoC back to my google authenticator.
tulip hatch
Youll have to submit a ticket for assistance
uneven wave
Thank you 😄
tulip hatch
Youre welcome! Hope it gets resolved quickly c:
vocal valve
so the BR is coming on the 24th?
tulip hatch
Yes
You can read the article in #news-aoc-apoc
Has a FAQ if you have any questions or concerns with older files
vocal valve
awesome thanks love
tulip hatch
Youre welcome
storm raptor
@lusty cedar thanks
crystal beacon
lol is ashes coming back already with apoc?
worthy hull
Any eta on castle sieges?
dreamy skiff
No but I believe Steven earlier today mention that the start of open testing is "Good momentum"
daring veldt
@idle siren weapons are gonna be level locked?
ruby swift
Yes, they said a while back that weapons and armor have tiers that will be level restricted. So while you can use any weapon or armor at level 1, you wont be able to use the better variants till higher levels.
Woke up at a weird time. Was going to ask an Intrepid bucks question.
@plucky pawn Will Intrepid Bucks have its own entry on our accounts, and when will we see that tab, or are they going to be credited as embers? If so will the conversion rate be reflective of people being able to buy embers at a discount and then converting them to cash to game the system?
daring veldt
Oh so only the tiers not the weapons per se, thanks that was the information I was looking 👍🏽
plucky pawn
Hiya @ruby swift - tagging in @idle siren here to help clear up Intrepid Bucks and Embers!
ruby swift
Cool. Hit us up.
cerulean heron
Has there been any update on the mmo parts? At this point I just sort of check back every few months.
fluid scroll
The Tidebreaker is soooo cute! 😍 Please tell me we don't have to feed this mount to keep it alive and functioning. 🎣
cerulean heron
I wonder if that's what fortnite said about their original game... sad day.
Thanks for the update though.
pallid horizon
When will we get any new info about the mmo, we was promised with alot in the last letter, now we have less and less thing, we are missing two node type, the dev videos stop long time ago, and the only news I hear latly are about the BR, which not many people like in the first place.
rigid rose
“Will Intrepid Bucks have its own entry on our accounts, and when will we see that tab, or are they going to be credited as embers? If so will the conversion rate be reflective of people being able to buy embers at a discount and then converting them to cash to game the system?”
@idle siren is question toast pinged you on
pallid horizon
Not that I dont know that mmo take alot of time and I dont blam them, ot just stop making promeses you cant do, it will male thing worse
Sorry for spilling I write while drive
idle siren
Intrepid bucks will have its own entry. That tab will be visible in the near future.
rigid rose
@ruby swift ^
pallid horizon
when can we expect the remaining two nodes paragraph?
And can we hope for A1 to be befor 2020?
@idle siren
desert ivy
Being able to yeet trees at people 
short ginkgo
Will there be sandal relics hidden throughout the world?
violet swan
I haven't looked into it much, but will we be getting a mmo and not this battle royale dung? im sick of battle royales. i want ashes to come out now. and yet the battle royale is now a steam game? the heck? does anyone know anything?
hidden crane
@violet swan So they're developing the MMO using UE4 (Unreal Engine 4) which is incredibly modular. You can drag and drop things between UE4 with ease. Hence why they set up a testing environment which is labelled apocalypse.
short ginkgo
Basically, the Battle Royale is a test server for combat, environments, animations, and other stuff that'll be used in the MMO. The MMO isn't quite ready for Alpha 1 yet
violet swan
I get that but i haven't heard anything about the game or development of it, its just battle royale battle royale apocalypse apocalypse. i'm on the verge of muting the server and i've invested hundreds into the kickstarter.
short ginkgo
They don't want to release information that isn't final, because people would get annoyed if what they expect turns out to be completely off. They'll tell us more about the MMO when they have things set in stone
It's okay the mute the server, but you might want to keep the news chats unmuted just in case
violet swan
i'll admitt my wanting to sit down for a few hours to watch a stream/youtube video dissappeared real fast after apocalypse released cause "ill ignore this and wait til the alpha"
short ginkgo
@violet swan Not sure if you use reddit, but there's always a stream recap in text form that summarizes what they talk about
mystic raptor
My GF just got refunds for all her purchases that she made in ashes and she is worried she lost all her stuff. It got refunded to her steam wallet. Anyone know what is going on?
She bought this in last test period
runic ember
That test period wasn’t a persistent one. No rewards or such to carry over. Basically nothing bought or earned from that test period was ever going to remain, hence the refunds
You can read the details in the announcements for it, I believe it’s explained there.
mystic raptor
I knew about the rewards not the purchases, so thanks. I read that but didn't realize that applied to purchases
embers
then she used embers to buy skins
runic ember
Q: What happens to the items I earn from the Adventure Path during this test session?
A: The “Test Compendium” for this playtest only includes XP rewards as items - no progress or items will carry over after this playtest
mystic raptor
yeah we know about that scurry
runic ember
Either way once a playtest returns that is announced to keep the items from the test, she can rebuy them
vagrant herald
hey, i've been a backer since 2017, mostly lurked. does anyone know how to add my backer key to my forum account?
the kickstarter links arent working, and i know the forums got a rework
thanks, got it
you the man or woman
starscreeeeeam!
ruby swift
@simple ether Was looking at that Steam refund question. My thinking is she bought embers, then used them to complete the path to 50, that is why they were refunded. Was that possible during the 12 hours test. Don't grind, just buy to the end of the path? We can call it "pulling a Giga"
Yep, also meant to put this in discussion. Hate wrong channel enter key.
strange iris
ebon star
persistent servers soon tm
ocean forum
Is there still an option for kickstarter backers to buy the otter which was presented in the last article? 
stable plover
The otter was from one of the Intrepid Store Pre-order packs, only available within it's month which has passed, so no... if you have your account with Intrepid - My.com seems to plan on selling the cosmetics from those packs individually at some point in the future. (I don't think they have individual cosmetic sales at all atm)
ocean forum
oh alright! thanks for the info! 🙂
chrome geyser
ruby swift
Yep, they are aware of the issue and something will be done at a later date to make it right is all they have said. Wait until then is your only option.
warped spindle
Any ideas? I have 6144 ram. Worked before but now doesn't?
boreal abyss
@warped spindle Disc space?
warped spindle
Nah. I've still got 100s of gigs left.
boreal abyss
in the drive you attempted to install it in?
warped spindle
It's weird because 6144 mb is the amount of RAM I have. So it's almost like it's saying I have less than that. But I dont lol
Yup. Same drive
boreal abyss
@plucky pawn
lean current
maybe they used a "less than" instead of a "less than or equal" haha
boreal abyss
considering it worked before I dunno
Could be that they upped the requirement
silk oracle
@warped spindle the OS claims some of the RAM for itself. Maybe that's why?
slow halo
Greetings,
I saw it pop up already today, but my steam purchase got refunded aswell, without me taking action. But in my case it wasn't just a bit of ember, I bought my Voyager Plus Pack thorugh steam and now I dont know what to do :/
ruby swift
That is a definite ticket issue to make sure you are credited with the correct months cosmetics. It is 5am for them, and while Steven is occasionally awake at this time, most of the others dont start looking here till later. File a support ticket with all the relevant info and they will sort you out.
slow halo
Alright... dumb question, but... where can I file support tickets? 🙈
ruby swift
So you had to have made an Intrepid account when you signed up for Steam. It is there. Give me a sec and I will link it.
slow halo
Yeah I got one, just cant see an option for it
slow halo
Thanks alot!
ruby swift
If you select "I need assistance with my account" it gives you all the fields to input. The other thing you might want to check is your Intrepid account under inventory. If your pack is listed there it wasn't refunded. But it the whole amount was refunded back to your wallet that is probably not the case.
right hand side. View Inventory
slow halo
The pack is not listed there, but to be fair, it never was
I still have the ember from that pack tho
I've filled out a support ticket, lets wait now...
ruby swift
Well, they will sort you out. Something in their reset of the last session seems to have not agreed with Steam.
young ruin
hum, sorry if this has been asked about but I'm a kickstarter but I can't seem to be able to purchase cosmetics as addons on the shop? I'm all logged in
yet I only see the packages
also I can't find the upgrading for my kickstarter package
worthy schooner
go find your KS code and apply it to your acc, it's probs not applied,
if you scroll up i'm pretty sure jahlon answered this same question earlier today
young ruin
okay, thanks @worthy schooner
silk oracle
(or dm it to me)
stable plover
If your a KS backer unable to see your package and you have already applied your code, fill out a support ticket.
outer heron
empty fjord
no dates for the mmo
vocal valve
So this may have been asked but in the shop there is a ring "coil of the crackling skies", my question is do we know how visable jewelry will be or does this give an aura effect of some kind?
small pecan
One of the moderators mentioned that the Coil will not have an effect! Just the actual appearance
tulip hatch
Accessories are visible on your character as well as some of your backpack and belts that will show potions or other items youre carrying
stable plover
The ring won't be visible if your wearing gloves that visibly cover it up though.
empty tusk
Been trying to find out when the Battle test is. Anyone have the date?
placid vessel
The BR opens up on the 24th.
empty tusk
Thanks!
lusty cedar
it's not a test right?
I mean, it has a persistent server
unlike the 12 hr test before
tulip hatch
Its still testing but its persistent testing so the servers will remain online
fathom sky
Does AoC MMO have "megaservers"?
placid vessel
We have no idea what kind of servers aoc will have.
lusty cedar
Assuming there's one per region, there's at least 3 servers
^Damn, didn't expect that the community is that "big".
Hope IS delivers.
worthy schooner
Nah they only do pickup
fathom sky
They could implement megaservers, just like ESO. one for the Americas and one for Europe.
fathom sky
Nodes, right @simple ether ?
ornate imp
Ya mega server won’t work. Each server will be different. For the most part
polar hollow
im losing hope
empty fjord
then chill and come back when A1 rolls out
polar hollow
i was actually expecting A1 to be earlier, since i backed it at ks during my 2nd year of schooling. now im serving the nation as its mandetory but there isnt much news
other than apoc
empty fjord
A1 was supposed to have happened by now, shit happens
Apoc news is mmo news, but people don't seem to realize that
polar hollow
Apoc is kinda like the test servers for the siege system
empty fjord
Apoc is a prerequisite for the mmo
they won't start A1 until the stages of apoc are done
polar hollow
the combat feels like meh feeling
empty fjord
sorry you feel that
empty fjord
yeah nothing is known what the combat in the mmo will be like, so that's just speculation
lean current
and be patient
lean current
you will be reminded by email if anything important happens
reef dagger
Apoc is indicative of what the action half of the combat is moving towards, the combat will continue to evolve with player feedback and changes made to increase action combat quality. On top of that tab will be melded in and balanced against it as well so take apoc combat as a launching point for said evolution and keep your hopes up for its progression
latent marsh
im a bit confused since there are 2 game modi of this game. the normal mmorpg and the apocalypse. So which one will be EA next week? the whole mmorpg or just the pvp battle mode apocalypse?
fallow fog
Apocalypse
latent marsh
when the whole mmorpg ashes of creation will get into EA?
lean current
we don't know any date for the MMO
empty fjord
mmorpg will never be in early access. it will have Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1 and Beta 2, all of which are closed testing.
ruby swift
"currently" never doubt the power of good spin.
empty fjord
doubt it since Beta 2 is a paid access.
ruby swift
"Alpha 1.5, Alpha 2.5, Beta 1.5, and Beta 2.5 now available to anyone!"
fluid vigil
You will have to buy the MMORPG in order to play, or it will be free-to-play too?
silent lantern
Alpha 1.2.5.67
blazing fog
Will a 1060 be able to run aoc on medium? Just asking as i am thinking of getting a laptop that s on clearanc
small pecan
The recommended on https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016315813-What-are-the-minimum-system-requirements-for-Ashes-of-Creation-Apocalypse- is a 970, so that should be fine?
Just make sure it’s not a 1060M like they do with laptops sometimes, haha
slow meadow
If I am remembering correctly the recommended for APOC is a 970 so a 1060 seems like a safe bet for medium. But keep in mind we are still early on and while they will be optimizing their "medium" could shift as time goes on.
oh filian linked the 970 references glad my brain was working
small pecan
Yup! All correct there :D
blazing fog
yeah its a gtx 1060 not a 1060m
slow meadow
That should be a pretty safe bet for ashes on medium. While things could change, I doubt they would push their middle ground settings beyond that price point for a gpu.
blazing fog
okay good
just checking its costing me a pretty penny that i dont like spending but as long as ill be good for aoc on it too im happy
azure vector
Hey, so im thinking of investing in a Nintendo switch. Will AoC be available on the nintendo shop too or is it steam locked?
small pecan
I don’t think there’s much of a chance Ashes comes to the Switch. There are currently no plans to port the game to any consoles :(
desert ivy
It is coming to Gamecube though so there's that 
empty fjord
there will be a phone app that will let you do some life skill managing
dunno how much of a game/minigame feeling that will be tho
azure vector
gamecube sounds awsome!
proven arrow
Not steam locked and not coming to switch, they said after launch they "may" consider looking towards a possible port to console in some form. But its heavily based on its own success.
dim kite
im having trouble signing into the forums, it redirects me too intrepid telling me to set my user name, the only options is first name and last name, my user name is already set..
tulip hatch
On the left side their should be an option to set Forum username
lean current
I am currently thinking about upgrading from a KS backer who gets access to A2 to a package that also contains A1 access. We don't have any information how long that is still possible, and how long A1 will probably be compared to A2, right?
thx
empty fjord
I'd expect A2 to be longer than A1. more stuff to test, bigger world? and it will run in parallel with the betas up until and beyond launch as the pts.
summer robin
Early Access means they will not close the game?
modest sierra
early access is just a fancy term for testing, they will keep the servers up as long as there isnt a game breaking bug, or they change stuff in the game.
dark jungle
pretty much yep
summer robin
i see thanks
stoic mesa
Does anyone know if the ashes of creation team have a plan for the hyperinflation in their mmo economy? It's affected almost every other mmo ever made and it would be a shame to see it happen here
remote axle
Its a difficult question, since we don't know much about the economy system yet.
crystal beacon
@stoic mesa all i know is they have some economist consultant in team. There should be localization and partial availability of resorces throughout the world. These should force transportation, putting aside and trade routes to develop. These should put the basic of some economy system. Others mmo don't have economy: endless resources instantly avaiable everywhere is not economy, is just grinding.
stoic mesa
@crystal beacon I agree however it is still subject to economic problems. My point here is that we will all be continuously killing monsters, going on raids and collecting loot throughout the game. Any gold acquired from these events is essentially being added to the economy from nowhere. This would lead to hyper inflation, much like printing money does in the real world. This is why in games like World of Warcraft you get items being sold for tens of thousands of gold. I think we can all agree this would break the economy of the game so I'm wondering what mechanics they have to stop it whether that be finite total gold in the world or potential money sinks or something else
crystal beacon
@stoic mesa it's difficult to give an answer with little we know so far. I agree with you the risk of hyperinflation is real in mmo. You will always have "professional" grinders or guilds farming gold and putting down the base-frame for the "economy" in a certain server. Just for sake of conversation I'd like to see some system in game like: taxation on gold deposits, the more you own the more you pay (but i don't see these very efficient). Or maybe your vault, when overflowing with gold, might attract PvE events...like raid bandits forcing a guild to hire expensive npc guards. Or...as we know big treasures often attract the interest of big bad-ass Dragons! What if the vault of a dominating guild get captured by dragons and became the ultimate doungeon? I don't know we're speculating but keep in mind the general system is headed toward a dynamic enviroment. I don't expect a certain economic stucture to last too long on a given server. For a reason or another it's doomed to change. for better or worst.
ruby swift
@crystal beacon They don't have an economic consultant, one of the developers has a Phd in Economics and it was said that he has experience in game economies. They know about the issue of hyperinflation from other mmos and games and have several different sinks that will remove gold out of the economy and will adjust them on the fly. As pointed out above, until the actual loot tables, tax rates, scarcity of resources in a particular area, and a host of other things are clarified people are just speculating wildly.
stoic mesa
@crystal beacon @ruby swift It will be interesting to see how they respond to fluctuations in an economy. What would be really cool is if they left some of the control of money sinks up to the individual governments in different nodes so that it is the responsibility of the politicians to control the rate of inflation in their economy, much like the real world. Like imagine if they could pass a policy increasing the rate of vendors selling consumables by 50%. They would have to come up with the money to pay for it, and then it would sink more money out of the economy, so they would have to find the balance. I know i'm going on wild speculative tangents but that would be so cool
I was a bit vague there also. When I say find the balance i meant that they could end up sinking too much money out of the economy and decreasing demand for goods and services due to the deflation caused as a result
ruby swift
It is all right, someone just DMed me that the guy with the Phd had left the company. So run, chaos is coming, none of your ill gotten gains will be safe!
crystal beacon
oh no! we're doomed! 😛
stoic mesa
but we'll all be filthy rich at least
oh another thought just hit me
they're having a stocks and shares system in the game
shouldn't that be a naturally exponential money sink?
I might be missing a trick but over the course of the game more players will set up businesses, which more people will invest in, sinking money out of the economy. Because of the investment, they will flourish, adding more wealth, causing more to be invested which will further encourage new businesses to set up. I might be wrong my economics is a bit rusty
remote axle
That is a great game play discussion you can take into #aoc-discussion and get feedback on. This channel is mostly for simple questions regarding the game.
stoic mesa
will do
limpid girder
I no longer have my 2factor authentication app setup and I can't log into my account
ruby swift
That would be a ticket issue. It is the weekend.
limpid girder
Where?
ruby swift
mounts are usually $25? Would have to go check. Sec.
Hmmm..after checking I have mount skins ranging from $10 to $50 dollars for the pridestalker. So take the average around $25 once you have a package of that level.
digital anchor
is the game for free?
fading latch
Apocalypse testing is for free. MMO testing is not and the game will be subscription based on launch @digital anchor
slow meadow
@digital anchor to clarify what shadowheart said. There will be no box cost to the MMO or its expansions. You will simply pay for a monthly sub (~$15) and get to play the game. There will also be a non-P2W cosmetic only cash shop that will be used to support the game as well.
hollow elm
what stage is the mmo? I bought a key awhile back
hollow elm
beta, alpha, 1, 2, which one?
tulip hatch
MMORPG is in pre alpha
Apocalypse is the platform Intrepid is using currently to test Combat and Backend Infrastructure for the MMORPG
stable plover
@hollow elm The MMO is still pre-alpha -- A1 has not begun yet. A0 ended more than a year ago. APOC helps test MMO systems but is not the MMO itself.
rigid rose
Alpha 1 has not started yet
hollow elm
thanks, I know that apoc is not the mmo but a testing platform, I just wanted to check in and see if Alpha 2 was starting, and I am assuming its going to be a hell of a time tell that's available
short ginkgo
As frustrating as it can be to wait for more actual MMO content, it'll hopefully be worth it when the final product is released.
slow meadow
@digital anchor it is different from wow in that with wow you have to pay each time an expansion comes out, so there is a base box cost. Ashes of Creation will not have any upfront cost. You will simply pay the monthly sub for access, just to be clear.
digital anchor
so sad that i cant buy it 😢
fading latch
Theres nothing to buy till release. You have plenty of time to find means of affording $15 a month till then if you want to play
turbid egret
do we have the ability to do any downloads and updates prior to release on tuesday? i haven't run the new launcher in a while so will it be a delay on the 24th, or can i do it now?
also, 2nd question: is referral system working now?
empty fjord
@turbid egret referral system is working yes, but not with link, you need to give your code
feral quartz
Just came back after a long break away from Ashes.
Got fed up with waiting for mmorpg updates and instead getting boring Battle Royale focused stuff.
Can anyone give me a brief overview and if I'm wasting my time with Ashes as an MMORPG as my hype is near 0 at the moment
empty fjord
I'd say come back in 6 months and we may have mmorpg news for you
unless you want to try out some siege mechanics, we may have some news regarding that soon
worthy schooner
@turbid egret you can have the launcher predownloaded and ready but no the patch itself is not out
fallow coral
How much is left to see the game in the market?
sturdy phoenix
crystal fjord
Will cartography be a thing?
slow meadow
They were originally looking at it being included in some form as a profession, but from what we have seen recently it looks like the scientific nodes unique building will be covering this area. https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2019-04-10-know-your-nodes-scientific-node-type for more info
vale turtle
@crystal fjord It should be in your email from a while back. If you cannot find it, please submit a ticket at
timid ledge
Can I use the same client from last apoc beta to play tommorow ,or do I need to redownload?
lean current
https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2019-09-18-ashes-of-creation-apocalypse-heads-into-early-access
In this article in the QA it says: "You will need a fresh download from our website or Steam for Early Access testing."
Follow the instruction on this website to uninstall the old launcher: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016316113-How-do-I-uninstall-the-game-
timid ledge
Thanks! I can see that the latest patch will be available tommorow. I wanted to pre-download but can't find it on steam. I take it, that it might be smart to wait with the website download as well then? Since they have the old version
lean current
You can already download the launcher from the website, and tomorrow evening, the launcher will patch the game to the newest version, so you don't have to download anything from the website again.
cinder gyro
Check the launcher download, I think last time included a lot of game files and then just patched some more. So you’ll have at least a part downloaded way in advance.
I also recommend downloading from both steam and the website. Standalone launcher had issues last test.
cinder terrace
So I read that Ashes of Creation is launching on Steam free on the 24th, is that right? My questions are...1) I don't see it on steam, usually games that are on steam long before they launch, is there a reason why I can't see it there? What kind of free deal will it be? Can we play it like paying players or free players will not access certain things in the game? Thanks.
vale turtle
APOC will be free, not the MMO (MMO launch TBA). Free as in free to play, you don't need to pay to access APOC.
stable plover
@cinder terrace Ashes of Creation Apocalypse, not Ashes of Creation the MMO, is what will be launching in Early Access on the 24th (timezone depending). Apocalypse currently just consists of a Battle Royale Mode, but a Castle Siege mode (100vs100 fights with classes (different from the ones in the MMO) and objectives for players to struggle for control over a castle) and a Horde mode (where players fight off attacking waves of monsters) will be available for free in the future. APOC is completely free to play, if you want you can pay money to unlock cosmetics directly or can pay for access to the 'Legendary Path' which functions as a season pass where you can earn an increased number of cosmetics by playing (Some cosmetics / game credits are available to free players by playing).
cinder terrace
I see, thanks, so when is the mmo going to be released? And I guess for the mmo we will have to pay the packages that will give us 2, 6 etc months access to it, right?
vale turtle
TBA
stable plover
@cinder terrace We don't currently have a date for when the alphas/betas/full MMO launch will be. We do expect Siege and Horde mode to start before Alpha 1. MMO A1 was pushed back by 'months' and not 'years' but that's the only timeline perspective we have atm. For the MMO if you wait until full release you only have to pay the 15$ a month sub - no package required. The packages give access to testing / cosmetics for the MMO.
The MMO doesn't have 'box' or 'expansion' costs.
cinder terrace
Great thanks for the info 🙂
next pivot
A little question! Rewards that we can receive in APOC will be unlocked in MMO or are they independent?? ^^
round belfry
Cosmetics you earn in apoc transfers over to the mmorpg, yes.
next pivot
Thanks!
lean current
I have two questions about the "Know Your Nodes: Economic Node Type" article:
- What is the "Tradeskill" mentioned?
- The article specifically says for the Superpower: "the items listed in one Linked Economy Node can be bid on from any other Linked Economy Node". Players still have to travel to the other node and get their goods if they won the bidding, right?
stable plover
@lean current 1. As far as I know that's the only place that "Tradeskill" has appeared from Intrepid. Maybe it's referring to Artisan path skill or maybe it's not.
2. Yes
lean current
Okay, thanks!
cinder gyro
@stable plover do you happen to know the source of the mmo being pushed months not years? I haven’t been following much lately
crystal beacon
@cinder gyro March 7th Creative Director's Letter
cinder gyro
Tyty
heavy siren
Hello! I need some installer/launcher help please. I changed the install location to my D: drive with the same folder names as the default C: drive location. However, after installing, when I try to launch the game from the desktop shortcut, there are dozens of errors related to files in my C: drive's appdata folder not being found. Is there a fix to this besides installing the game onto my C: drive? That's not really an option for me. Thanks!
hidden crane
@heavy siren You'd need to perform a clean install and directly install into your D drive.
rigid rose
This might help as well @heavy siren
To make sure you have all the components of the program removed before reinstalling on your other drive
stable plover
@cinder gyro Here's the source for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGx3Ko8ZG6s&feature=youtu.be&t=38m30s - Notably Steven was talking about the delay on A1 and not overall MMO launch, but we haven't heard about any other delays.
cinder gyro
👍
heavy siren
Thanks for the replies! I'll give your suggestions a go
half lagoon
@tulip hatch thnx
dose anyone know how the economy is going to role out in the game
lol
come on man
i guess
crystal beacon
When is that BR gamemode supposed to start up again? I finally got a computer not long ago and would like to try it out haha
tulip hatch
Tomorrow at 12pm PDT
hidden crane
You can but there will still be a patch when the servers go live
crystal beacon
Kk ty
trail orbit
Hi, at what time will APOC be up on steam?
hidden crane
trail orbit
oh ty
hidden crane
Once it goes live, the steam page will go up and you should be able to download and patch
crystal beacon
Also, havent kept up to date with the info for this game for a year almost. I know it was pushed back for alpha 1 like months ago. Any news or hints to an actual alpha 1 day for the real game?
hidden crane
There is currently no ETA for Alpha 1. It'll be ready when it's ready.
crystal beacon
Darn. Alright, what can you do lol
distant lance
Hello i have a problem when i want to install the game
https://gyazo.com/72417017417b376846f95ed7db0c3670 this happens to me
what could be the problem? cause i dont understand it.
hidden crane
@distant lance It means your PC has less than 6gb of RAM.
You will need to use a different computer with higher RAM.
hidden crane
Do you have exactly 6gb or more?
hidden crane
:D
sonic echo
6.00 GB installed (5.8 usable)
Will it be the same requirements for the final version of the game?
hidden crane
As the game is currently in active development, it's hard to say
But those are the requirements for the current testing phase.
sonic echo
Thank you for the answers 😄
remote axle
regal oak
tty
crystal beacon
Do I need to delete/uninstall everything from the last 12-hour testing APOC had? Launcher and all? Or can I just update it with the patch tomorrow?
hidden crane
If you want to be on the safe side, you should probably clean uninstall just in case
plucky pawn
@crystal beacon As called out in our helpful FAQ, there are some handy-dandy instructions on how to make sure all your old files are removed in preparation! https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2019-09-18-ashes-of-creation-apocalypse-heads-into-early-access
summer robin
its not on sep 24?
slow meadow
Tuesday Sept 24th at 12pm PDT. If your time varies from there its possible its not on the 24th
summer robin
ty
ebon star
Not test but persistent servers the 24th
vale turtle
A persistent testing period. Test it till it breaks
summer robin
the server will stay open or they gonna close it later?
hidden crane
It will stay open for persistent testing.
boreal abyss
*Unless they find breaking issues with backend code and have to redo it again
grim breach
Is it safe to assume that the architecture for Apocalypse persistent testing are also the same as the MMORPG? I mean, that's the point right?
If they can Apocalypse running 24/7 for a year without it going down due to server or architecture reasons, then the MMORPG can continue it's development at a much faster pace.
ebon star
that is the in benefits of making the APOC game mode
grim breach
Do we have a rough idea of how much of the current architecture represents the architecture of the MMORPG?
If they did reworked everything on the backend from the ground up for the past 6-8 months, that must mean that a big deal of this architecture are being used for the MMORPG as well.
I know Steven has said this many times but I'd like to know if the current Apocalypse server architecture that will be launched later today will also be used for the MMORPG Alpha 1 later.
boreal abyss
@grim breach That is the plan as far as we know
Will use same networking code as the MMO will
grim breach
Alright then. Not that I'm expecting it to break but with the server architecture out of the way, hopefully they will move on to the next big step. I just hope they don't try to maintain the Apocalypse before they get the MMORPG out, even though Apocalypse is meant to be a standalone game in the future. As long as the updates are related to the MMORPG mechanics, then they won't get as much backlash from the community as they did before.
ebon star
They are constantly tweaking how the game plays and experimenting with how the want the experience to feel for the gamers, some will love the new builds some wont but they are making progress and are still trying to develop in a timeline that was truthfully way compressed from standard MMO production times.
clear gyro
Is there a way to unsubscribe to emails about Apoc but not AoC?
boreal abyss
No
grim breach
Apocalypse is a part of the development process. Plus, you will want those emails for news when Siege and Horde modes come online.
Unless you don't want those as well...
rigid steppe
is apoc open yet?
lean current
no
remote axle
undone topaz
can i just use the my.com launcher again for apoc or do i need to use steam or intrepid launcher
pure moth
helllo when it opens today ?
valid sail
in about 9 hours
wheat glen
any way to upgrade my kickstart pledge? because strangley enough, they are gone since my.com is in the boat...
ruby swift
They are aware of the current issues with the upgrades and cosmetics on my.com and are working on a solution. What form that resolution will take has not been clarified. Before the ability to upgrade KS packages is removed Steven has said plenty of notice would be given. There has been no indication that is occurring soon. Those on my.com will just have to wait and see till they work out those issues. @wheat glen
median spear
so 3 hours and 45 minutes to go?
half stream
Im really confused on how the sales are working with Ashes, can someone elaborate to me the differences between kickstarter/summer package/pre-order packages.. and the monthly cosmetics are different too? thanks guyss
boreal abyss
@half stream
Kickstarter/Summer backer:
"Exclusive stuff only available in those packs"
Can upgrade to higher tier pack as long as you own a pack.
Pre-Order packs:
"Monthly Exclusive cosmetics"
Can upgrade to higher pre-order packs.
Can purchase future montly exclusive cosmetics one by one (pick and chose whatever cosmetics you want)
within your rank of pack if you own the lowest pack, you can only buy cosmetics one by one of the same grade, not higher.
half stream
Woooow. Thank you for this, also, if you have a package from kickstarter and you have upgrade it... the rewards will also be upgraded??? or nahhh? thanks thanks!!!
boreal abyss
@half stream Yes they will be upgraded to the upgraded pack's rewards
stable plover
@half stream If you have a KS pack and upgrade it the rewards will upgrade to whatever tier you upgrade to - That would sort of be the point of the upgrade 😉 - If you want to upgrade a KS/SS or even pre-order pack you pay the difference in price between your current tier and what your upgrading to.
boreal abyss
so it will be as you bought the upgraded pack and never the old pack 😛
stable plover
KS/SS people can buy any of the monthly pre-order cosmetics during their month individually, even if they have a low tier package, unlike the pre-order packs which require a certain tier to access certain individual cosmetics. If you were to upgrade a pre-order pack you keep the original cosmetics you had, and only gain the new cosmetics from the higher tier that are not included in the tier you already had (but were from a different month)
hidden crane
Good Morning Ashes Community Questions channel! cracks knuckles
Today is going to be a long day
worthy schooner
hidden crane
dw Greypelt fam I got you, me and Zii built an entire document for technical issue copy-pastas
worthy schooner
desert ivy
What about "when's the release date" questions? 
worthy schooner
wHeN cAn i pLaY mMo
half stream
oohhhhh, so you'll really have a lot of cosmetics!! thank you so muchhh
stable plover
@half stream Oh and since it sounds like you have a KS package, if you get any of the Summer Sale addons for KS those just come with the cosmetics depicted and not any of the other stuff that may have been in the SS tier that the cosmetics came from (like game time).
half stream
Yaaaay! Thanks Thanks!!!
regal oak
Coil of Crackling Skies just got it 😄
valid sail
where can i buy battlepass for APOC
ruby swift
If you are talking about the Adventure Pass it will be an option once the game goes live.
solid silo
does anyone know if steam support account wich ashes of creation
hidden crane
Yes, your steam install will use the ashes of creation login details
ruby swift
APOC is on Steam
valid sail
I cant find it on steam, will it be there when the open beta begins?
hidden crane
yes, just gotta wait
valid sail
ok cool
solar forge
is ashe of creation on steam now?
slow mortar
Not yet, got to wait till 12PM PDT (2hours 50m)
elder terrace
Quick question, did our names save from previous tests?
I understand it being early access, that they may not be there. 😮
Curious 🙂
elder terrace
Thank you ❤
solid silo
how long until i can test it
hidden crane
next pivot
Pre-order packs are ever the same? Or every ''X'' time they changes with another skins, etc...?
hidden crane
@next pivot Changes to a new set each month
So if you dont like this month, wait until next month
next pivot
Oh, thanks! 😄
tulip hatch
@elder terrace ok confirmed it should be the same!
If you find that yours has reset just rename again and relog to save the new name.
make sure you report any pesky bugs you may find in your adventures! <3
elder terrace
Thank you so much @tulip hatch ~ :D
Looking forward to it! ( If that happens, I'll be sure to do so! )
elder elbow
will be the update today?
hidden crane
Yes
elder elbow
20:00?
hidden crane
Once the servers go live at 12pm PDT you can login and update
Or for UK time, 8pm yes
wheat glen
are the monthly skins (time) exclusive in general, or are they obtainable at a later date again or via ingame gameplay?
hidden crane
They are limited to the month. However variants of it will be present in the game as monsters etc.
elder elbow
CET TIME ?
glossy portal
it's in 53 minutes
vale turtle
solid silo
its the cuntdown down
hidden crane
Give them a bit to get it online :D
wheat glen
is it on Steam too?
stable plover
APOC is going to be on Steam, but it may be about two hours before it shows up
turbid egret
yea, ok, so server isn't up yet?
shell violet
tribal patio
just seen it its on steam
shell violet
Here is their server status.
tribal patio
but not updateable yet
trail orbit
page is up. but no download available yet
next pivot
early acceos only work for steam? Or client update works too?
hot ridge
