ok thanks!
#questions
fallen mantle
hazy narwhal
Is it possible AT ALL, to get this months cosmetics bundle after next months cycle in.
dark jungle
nope
robust egret
Will there be and or is there the ability to get a refund for Kickstarter Backers. I could not find anything in the FAQ's or searching Forums
small pecan
stable plover
@hazy narwhal There's probably an exception for my.com users, but not from Intrepid
oh and alternate versions might be earnable in game that say uses the same skeleton with a different look, or modifies the angles on a piece of armor or something
robust egret
Hmmm that reads as if only applies to in game asset purchases. Was hoping they had a system like Crowfall, where you can sell back your Kickstarter Package at purchase value
small pecan
Ah, I donโt think Intrepid has any statement like that. You can always submit a support ticket!
robust egret
Thanks, just looking ahead incase they drift to far from the reason that I KS pledged in the first place. Not really a fan of BR games
small pecan
Sounds good! Hopefully they deliver on your expectations!
hazy narwhal
@robust egret i'm guessing you already know this but said it anyways, AoC is not a BR game. They are using the BR mode as a way to test various things like server capacity and server performance under load to name a few
subtle prawn
BR was also a trending genre back then. Was kinda easy to get more people in a way.
hazy narwhal
^ that as well. Pretty annoying seeing so many people lumping the BR, Hoard mode, and MMO all as the same thing
subtle prawn
Still more excited to test out horde mode and castle siege
hazy narwhal
Definately.
hazy narwhal
The purchase of a preorder package will entitle you to the cosmetic items that are part of the offer at the time of your purchase. Later on you will additionally be entitled to upgrade your founder pack reward portfolio with any additional limited-time available cosmetics after they were released through a separate purchase.
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what does this mean actually? if you buy part of one pre-order pack, you can upgrade it during a later month and get THAT months items and not the original months cosmetics?
stable plover
@hazy narwhal So my understanding of what that means (Don't take this as official) - That's on the my.com Store - on the Intrepid Store once you already own a package, you can buy cosmetics from future months individually without the rest of the pack - for example you could buy the 'Sootheroot Satchel' for 5$ instead of needing to pay 75$ for an additional pack -- I think the ability to individually buy cosmetics isn't a thing on my.com yet and they intend to implement that in the future, and will allow people to purchase the things that they weren't able to from not having the feature for a limited time
hazy narwhal
okay, i think i finally understand the IS store now. So theoretically, if someone using the my.com store purchased June's full package, they might in the future be able to buy July's cosmetics
bleak sinew
@hazy narwhal You are correct. If you buy one package this month and upgrade next month, you will have the cosmetics up to your original purchase from this month and the cosmetics of the upgrade tier from next months. Additionally, you should be able to buy the cosmetics that are included with your original purchase tier next month individually and in future months all items included with your original purchase and upgrade individually.
I hope that made some sense.
stable plover
Note that the Intrepid store and my.com's version of the store differ a bit on the details.
bleak sinew
My information is from the Intrepid store. Thank you for letting me know that there is a difference @stable plover . I will keep that in mind when providing information.
hazy narwhal
i dont know why this is so difficult for me to understand
bleak sinew
Because it is a bit confusing. I believe I understand how it works and when I try to explain it, my explanation leaves me confused. lmao
silent lantern
Actually, i am curious.. Will i be able to freely switch regions and play on servers from different regions (like in say.. WoW) with a single account or? How exactly would that work?
acoustic rune
From what i remember you need to pay to switch servers, and there is a cooldown after
Also i did a lot if digging on the whole region thing, and chances are that anyone who plays and pays via mail ru and my com will be limited to russian (for mail ru) and european (for my com) servers respectivy. Unless they migraye and change the payment method to the one of their chosen region, along with it's prices and business model
Yeeeeah...
At least thats what russian sources keep saying
silent lantern
Yea, so i need to pay for a second account to play on EU and US..
not gonna happen
acoustic rune
Or migrate
silent lantern
Well, i'm not gonna migrate all the time to play with friends or my guild.. that's moronic
acoustic rune
Im not thrilled to pay an extra 1.6 multiplier for everything just to play with the english speaking community
silent lantern
1.6?
acoustic rune
Advanced wayfarer preorder pack costs close to 10 k rubl via mail ru. My com cost is close to 16 k. Min wage per month in russia is 9500
See where im going with this?
silent lantern
Lol ๐๐
warm jackal
im guessing the release date for this game is 2020? or is it later?
crystal beacon
We dont know. But we can suppose that the game will not release in 2020. Maybe a alpha q1 of 2020
crystal beacon
Something like that yes
crystal beacon
But again it's all only guesses.
shut mulch
Can we download and update launcher yet? ready for 20th? or hasnt been annouced yet?
crystal beacon
I dont think so @shut mulch
shut mulch
oh ok, wonder if old launcher will work or have to start fresh
crystal beacon
For what I understand we'll have to instal a new one and it will come in a few days, along with an updated FAQ
rotund oar
I suggest you wait for news before you download anything, just to avoid the possibility of having to download a new launcher.
silent lantern
I wonder when the launcher update will be implemented in the launcher itself ...
your steam client needs to update, click here to install
edgy crater
!status
solar forge
will this game gonna bee free2play?
fallen mantle
its subscription based
solar forge
how much?
remote axle
@solar forge Latest info is $15 a month, but with everything, that could be subject to change
solar forge
uffff naaah bra im not rich
reef prawn
weak niche
Can I download the launcher now?
hidden crane
@weak niche Not currently no. We're waiting on the new FAQ which will give us all the necessary details.
silent lantern
@solar forge well, that's less than a meal if you live in the US.. A little bit more if you live outside but not in Africa or Central China..
solar forge
im living in germany
stable plover
It's usually worth mentioning the full business model when people ask about it very generally.
There's no box cost / no DLC/Expansion cost - 15$ a month sub - Cosmetic only cash shop
silent lantern
Agreed, Pelt.
stable plover
Oh and APOC is F2P, with optional cosmetic purchases - with certain backers getting earlier access to new modes
solar forge
whats apoc
stable plover
APOCalypse is the battle royal, Castle Siege, and Horde stand alone modes - designed to test various things before they go into the MMO
The BR has a testing session August 20th, which should mark the return of more frequent tests after a lot of work redoing the games backend code
Apocalypse forms a prequel in terms of lore.
potent osprey
Anyone know what cpu's are being used on intrepid's workstations?
silent lantern
@potent osprey this is what i could find about minimum system requirements for the game:
Minimum System Requirements:
Operating System: Windows 7 64-Bit, SP 1
Processor: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz / AMD Phenom II X4 3.3GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 or AMD Radeon 6870 HD with 1GB and DirectX 12
Memory: 6 GB RAM
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB of available space
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible Sound Card
As for their machines.. they probably have something like the above and more beefier work stations
dusty fable
I think he not talking bout min requorement
dusty fable
Hmmm as a unreal dev myself probably either intel or threadripper?
With 64gb ram
But for thr exact hardware thats unknown
silent lantern
Well, i don't think they've said anything about their work stations, but i don't think they are doing what they are doing on a pentium duo core if you know what i mean
stable plover
silent lantern
1200w power supply :O
stable plover
@potent osprey Those are what Steven gave us at their office workstation specs, but they do have more variety than that
serene sparrow
Maybe I'm wrong but I remember him saying the goal was for it to work on high with a GTX720.
stable plover
They must also have more powerful GPU's, and we've seen some weaker ones from the devs laptops
remote axle
UE4 is a pretty good engine for optimization, I am sure it will work over a multitude of different specs.
undone topaz
can anyone tell me why paypal is asking me for a credit card when im trying to buy the game? (i got enough money in my balance and my bank account is connected)
silk oracle
@undone topaz are you american ? it did this for me a few times when buying stuff from different countries
undone topaz
I'm not
undone topaz
it's still asking for it
silk oracle
@undone topaz after you re entered it ?
silk oracle
typing in the creditcard information
silk oracle
bank account then
undone topaz
last time i entered my bank account it was a lot of work to get it verified
silk oracle
you dont have to get it verified again
mossy cave
@undone topaz Xsolla support should be able to help if you run into trouble with your payment: https://help.xsolla.com/.
Feel free to open a support ticket with us as well: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000551293
lament delta
Do we know if the equipment drops from non-boss monsters will be more like "any monster can drop any type of weapon/armor that will scale to your level and might have some randomized stats" or more like "specific monsters drop very specific equipment items" (not even just "shoes" but "shoes of magical haste" that are unique to that monster, or smth similar)?
I personally find the latter more pleasing for numerous reasons, but it's severely lacking in modern MMORPGs.
dark jungle
@lament delta it's specific to the monster https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Loot_tables
lament delta
I don't see the equipment specifics mentioned, only "pelts". Unless I am missing the line where it covers equipment, this is not very encouraging.
For example, in GW2 the centaurs will drop hooves, and harpies will drop talons, but they all still drop all types of possible equipment that scales to your level.
dark jungle
Mobs and Bosses will drop Gold, Items and crafting materials based on the type of mob or boss.
Items include weapons or armor.
The pelts thing is just a "for example" that the devs gave
acoustic rune
set drop table for a monster type doesnt not mean a gear unique to that type of monster alone
however its more than certain that it means mats
dark jungle
TLDR: the equipment that is dropped is specific to that mob type
lament delta
Will be good if true. While your interpretation is not contradicting anything, this phrasing is too vague to say for sure what they mean.
The livestream is even more vague actually...
dark jungle
Sorry, got distracted by a phone call. Yeah thats the info we have right now, and yes it does need more clarification. Hopefully one of the devs will answer it more specifically
undone topaz
tried contacting xsolla and they are genuinely useless
hidden crane
@undone topaz Which servers do you intend to play on, NA or EU?
solar forge
Is the test on the 20th august free or do i need a sub
lament delta
Nah they are paying us to do the testing.
Not really, but it is free.
undone topaz
eu
hidden crane
@solar forge The 20th test and all apocalypse tests are free for everyone.
white sequoia
rather short amount of time @plucky pawn what happens to the poor people with slow download speeds ๐ฆ
acoustic rune
Can I use mail ru account for apoc testing?
hidden crane
@undone topaz I'd suggest buying your pack from the My.com website as they are the official EU publishers
undone topaz
ah ok ty
plucky pawn
@white sequoia The download will be available the day prior, as mentioned in the FAQ! I'm sure we'll give you a heads up when it's ready as well ๐
hidden crane
@undone topaz Here you go buddy: https://aoc.my.com/en
white sequoia
i was responding to the faq ๐ @plucky pawn
if the new client is 20-30gb some people may not have the speed to download it fast is what i meant
potent osprey
Have the EU players linked their kickstarters to my.com yet, or is this a step in the future?
plucky pawn
It is definitely not 20gb, it's closer to 6gb as I'm looking at it right now!
white sequoia
glad to hear ๐ค
white sequoia
so its a patch to the existing client i guess @plucky pawn not a new NEW client ?
plucky pawn
Incorrect, you need all new files!
tight gale
All noted in the FAQ. ๐
plucky pawn
That is called out in the FAQ as well ๐
tight gale
Make sure you read the FAQ homies. A lot of these questions are answered there. 
torn umbra
is there a word about siege testing yet? or still battle royale stuff
white sequoia
@tight gale @plucky pawn did u create some sort of Stargate one Insane compression ๐ 15gb reduced to 6gb WHAT THE ๐ฎ
hidden crane
@undone topaz Glad it worked!
torn umbra
ok im seeing this as a sensitive subject, after all thats what i've been here since december ๐
winter flame
When will we get some good mmo news? Like new races or the world map even? Nodes 3???
torn umbra
I really think that they wanna try this br shit before they wanna publish any information about the MMO
so that there wont be any more inaccurate information
hidden crane
Yep, it's the official EU publisher so prices are in euros.
white sequoia
Vat/Taxs
fallen mantle
yeah the base cost is cheaper
fervent hamlet
Why must the testing be on a Tuesday, when most people have work :)
tulip hatch
Testing currently occurs during Intrepid's work hours to monitor the test in case anything goes wrong
tulip hatch
Once they are comfortable the tests times will be more flexible
white sequoia
download for me is 9pm GMT and playtime is 6pm GMT so yeah cant wait for eu server xD
river jungle
white sequoia
first question
Q: Can I log into Ashes of Creation Apocalypse on Steam using an existing Intrepid account?
A: Yes, you can use your existing Intrepid account to log into Ashes of Creation Apocalypse via Steam - you will be prompted for your Intrepid login credentials upon launching the game in order to link your accounts
tulip hatch
Apocalypse is through Steam and DL intrepid launcher
The mmorpg will be through my.com and intrepid for NA
fervent hamlet
Will the mmo also be on steam (like bdo)?
hidden crane
@fervent hamlet
hidden crane
Currently no plans**
tulip hatch
๐
hidden crane
Could still be on steam later
potent osprey
Unexpected surprise steam
fervent hamlet
I'll just have to add non-steam game :)
potent osprey
Who knows how the landscape will be in 2 years time
undone topaz
when will apoc be available for download again?
undone topaz
ty
fading smelt
Is there a window for how long the upcoming (8/20) test will span?
stable plover
11am to 11pm PDT on 8/20
mellow apex
Can we seperate the Messages about Apocalypse and the AoC? i know they need the BR mode for Testing Stuff, but would it made way more userfriendly if you made @ ApoAoC and a @chrome breachC Role for the announcements.
crystal flax
They would then have to assign people those roles individually as they want them, no? Far too complicated
crystal flax
Those are discussion channels, not really for announcements
But something like it could work, sorting announcements
tight gale
@mellow apex Thanks for the suggestion. We'll discuss it. 
regal oak
did they say anything about paying for time through ingame currency?
stable plover
@regal oak Can pay for sub with referral earnings, but not Embers
tranquil pebble
Pax West this year?
tranquil pebble
Got it. Just wanted to be sure cause I wanted to schedule the time off today @.@
hasty garden
Wil there be passive buff o effects on our weapons and armor?
And how do we tame creatures and can they attack have skills heal us buff us?
dark jungle
@hasty garden yes there will be passives and yes taming creatures is going to be dangerous
If you need to tame a giant beast for husbandry as an example, it will be nice to be able to handle yourself in combat should that beast want to eat you instead
hasty garden
OK ty I have some more questions when they are tamed do we have like a spell to Sumon them? And maybe the last one for today ๐ค is there any way to fast travel like a teleporter to go to donjons or other areas or we have to travel with our mount
OK no fast travel for a huge world that s interesting
icy wedge
Some fast travel for a huge world
hasty garden
Oh I have one more I m worried about the difference of power between lvl when I saw a gameplay they had like 500 hp they deal about 100 damage then when they 2500 they deal only 200 ๐ค
dark jungle
balancing of classes, stats etc will be addressed in the alpha and beta testing phases
hasty garden
I played rappelz for few years not the best mmo but when u lvl 1 u deal 20 damage and u have 100 hp and when u lvl 150 u deal 10k damage with insane attack speed and u have 20k hp.
I hope they make a good deference between that I don't want to farm 1000 hours and be killed by someone who played 100 hours and have a common stuff
hazy narwhal
i like the idea of no fast travel at all with a gigantic world.
it gives more personality to whole regions
have they said what the fast travel would entail? like just to other T3 cities, dungeons, ect
do you know where i can find the article?
stable plover
latent pike
Why don't developers show Progression from a Project Management viewpoint to fans and users so they can see the progression of the development of Areas, Dungeons, Logic Trees, AI and Quest Forks without releasing detailed information. This would provide us with a much more concrete picture of the progress of development instead of vague generalities and images of models.
dark jungle
probably because development projects are highly fluid and things change frequently
they dont want to mismanage people's expectations by giving away details that are subject to change
latent pike
It has nothing to do with expectation as goal change during development, it is more of a choice of discipline and understanding the achievability of those goals. Every Aspect should be developed and tested prior to incorporation to ensure the mechanic is viable within the constraints of the engine and capability and budget for staff and tech.
idle forge
@plucky pawn Hello, My name is Robert Taylor. I had a non game question and wasn't sure on who or how to contact the development team. I have a small team and we are starting on creating our own MMO, I know they are using UE4 and because of that I was wondering if there was any good advice or anywhere they can point us that might make the journey a little easier? Thanks in advance for your time.
small pecan
hey @idle forge I don't work for Intrepid, but I'd like to link you to the wiki for an overview of the game's design (and some reasons as to why they made their design decisions)!
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/
if you haven't seen it yet, it might give you some good insight for your own MMO!
stable plover
@idle forge https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Talk:2018-04-05_Video_-_PAX_East_Panel This is personally one of my favorite interviews where they talk about the design process and a bit of talk on starting the studio - For general MMO design, I'd recommend checking out Extra Credits video series on the subject https://youtu.be/otAkP5VjIv8 (link to a random useful video, follow the rabbit hole from there ;p )
- MMOs are one of the hardest gaming genres to pull off if you actually want the massively part. Don't skimp on the pre-planning phase. Once you've started actual development you want to make sure as much of your work can be used for the final product as possible, so you ideally don't want to have to keep redesigning the same systems. Manage expectations.
idle forge
My freaking heroes! I tell ya I've been scowering the internet for days and finding just a ton of people saying don't try unless you rich or it's never gonna happen so give up! I figured that since Intrepid Studios started where me and mine are starting that they might be more enlightening. I will totally be watching all of this
will happily wait for that second link!
open sierra
@tight gale @mellow apex hey guys its better to have #news, #apoc news , or #aoc news
and news channel will be separately from apoc and mmorpg version ๐
thin rapids
Hi guys could you answer my question about your project! Under that will be more optimized CPU from AMD or Intel and GPU is AMD or NVIDIA?)please answer those!๐
hidden crane
@thin rapids Currently they are aiming for optimizations for both Intel and AMD cpus and both Nvidia and AMD gpus
However as with every game, these optimizations will usually occur throughout development, especially in the final phases of development
So your best bet is to be patient and see how the development progresses over time to experience the optimization changes firsthand!
thin rapids
Thanks for the answer!๐
covert plank
If I connect my Intrepid Account with Steam, will I be able to transfer all my Assets to an EU account at a later point in time?
timid scarab
Will ashes of creation support linux in the future?
empty fjord
unlikely
rotund oar
Ashes of Creation will be released on the Windows PC platform.
Native Linux support may be possible in future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCr9yh2Y97I&feature=youtu.be&t=23m50s
timid scarab
Thks
distant tide
Hey guys, do we know what steven meant when he said that "it will take around 45 days to reach max level" ? Was he talking about 45 days of actual playtime or with some average hours of playing per week ?
I see
ty
worthy schooner
I hope the last one c:
left dew
@simple ether Thanks for doing what you do, you are a huge boon to the community<3. I also hope it is 1,080 hours+. I remember feeling like it took forever to level in LOTRO and that kind of took the "Rush" out of trying to get to max level. You could enjoy the content you were on.
distant tide
i'm hoping too for a long duration in order to reach cap
hazy narwhal
i think you can be fairly confident on it being a long road as they have stated that they want the leveling experience the be meaningful the entire way through
scarlet moth
With the test on 20 august, I assume our kickstarter name and pass will allow us to sign-in. However, dumping my previous download and files and uploading a new program seems complicated. BLUF - are there specific instructions to delete and upload the files from Steam? Why? I missed out on a major portion of battle royale back then due to miscommunication & technical challenges. Enquiring minds that want to help yet wanting some positive experience. Thanks for any input.
hidden crane
@scarlet moth You'll need to use your intrepid account details to login. As for doing a clean uninstall, let me grab the you the steps, sec
scarlet moth
Gracias - Now we're cooking with gas.
hidden crane
If you need any additional help with finding files or folders, please let me know!
Once you follow those steps, you should be able to install it via Steam just fine without any issues
scarlet moth
BTW .... The emoji means your post is awesome, not I am awesome. The visual doesn't seem to match the verbal. So ... Your screenshot is awesome @hidden crane
hidden crane
Cheers
quartz coral
Is Apoc going to be cross platform?
fluid scroll
I wish they would have put all those steps in the NEWS section article; it is way more helpful than just delete where you put the files.
quartz coral
PS4 is soo much better than a pc
small pecan
they might try to support consoles in the future, but their current plans are only for PC
faint linden
AOC is last chance for human for a real good MMORPG.. GL!!!
pulsar ridge
Have the moved launch date past 2020?
they*
b r u h
and what date did they say?
2021? or even further?
ahh
so no deadlines
ruby swift
They fired up the backend Gandalf and it said "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"
pulsar ridge
so no date for an alpha.
shame
I app the answer
this game is another bannerlord 2
ruby swift
I could tell you that tomorrow is the alpha, but when it didn't happen would you be unhappier because you were told a lie?
pulsar ridge
Well, Unknown. That is just unreasonable. Launching a kickstarter in 2017 and saying they will have an alpha 0 by 2019 is a realistic goal they failed to meet
I support the game but deadlines that far out are the best because they motivate you but dont rush you
ruby swift
Several session over about 6 weeks
ruby swift
Nope, that was the mmo
pulsar ridge
I am behind
ruby swift
It was hours of running around screaming for you life while overpowered mobs leashed you for miles.
So all in all good times.
Now if you are talking about A1, that could be sometime in 2020 most likely. Makes sense with the 6-8 month delay rebuilding the backend took.
rotund oar
soonโข
ruby swift
Would you have like a persistent alpha that crashed every time 200 people logged on to your area? Not likely. That is why you are still waiting.
pulsar ridge
yes but that was during that last alpha 0
which was a whole ass year and a half ago
ruby swift
No, that was the BR
dark jungle
alpha 0 was nearly 2 years ago
pulsar ridge
I understand your point of view
ruby swift
Once they got to 200 or so, shit melted, they say they have licked that issue. 20th will be the put up or shut up moment.
pulsar ridge
ouch
desert ivy
Wait did that guy just say a 2 year gap from development to alpha was a realistic goal for an mmorpg?
pulsar ridge
alpha 0 is usually a year or so before an alpha 1
I dont mean to finish alpha in 2 years
The games production began feb 2016
so not even 2 years
hasty garden
Is a gtx 1060 and a i5 8th Gen is enough to run the game as gorgeous as it s in video?
hasty garden
I think they ll release alpha 1 soon in September or something like that after the beta of appoc they ll probably take some times to fix the last bug than release alpha 1 idk where they at with the mmo but if they want to keep players waiting for the next alphas and betas they have to do something relatively quickly they can t give us alpha 1 3 years after the alpha 0 Otherwise it would mean that the game will be released in a very long time
desert ivy
It definitely isn't coming in September
Since they need to also test Castle Siege and Horde Mode first
Even though it's pure speculation, I'd guess sometime late Q1 - early Q2 next year if things go well
but 
It also wouldn't be too smart from a marketing POV since WoW Classic releases end of august so less people would play the Alpha
hasty garden
In my opinion when they are ready with the combat system and if everything is OK or just a bit to change they are going to test everything in a short period of time 2 or 3 month to release the alpha 1 as soon as possible. My theory work only if there s just little problems to fix
light flax
Alpha 1 is a long way from being ready.
crystal beacon
yeah if they cant keep it running on the 20th id expect 2021 release date
crystal beacon
I bet on a q1 2020 alpha release. And then the launch of the game q2/q3 2021
rigid rose
lapis surge
Not sure where else to put this but I am unable to log into the official forums as of today hitting the login button just takes me to a blank page perhaps the link is broken.
Logging in to view my purchases is working fine but not the forum login.
and now I find the appropriate support link sorry
dark jungle
are you following this link? https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/
lapis surge
yes I am I get on to the forum but am not logged in when I hit the link to goto the login the link simply does not go through to the login page
never had a problem before with it
lapis surge
I have done so thanks lex
open sierra
lol this guy from Dungeon Crawler Network wanan pay him to watch the video .... LOL
this is a discrimination.. if you pay you will watch ... why even IS postet in news such a thing !!!
??
c moon who can watch that ??? https://www.twitch.tv/videos/467805246
rotund oar
People who have subscribed can watch it, it says it right there on the screen 
open sierra
yeah and what is the point Intrepid to post such a thing ?
i am not agree with this
...
rotund oar
Just ask Margaret, she is the one who shared it.
You may get an answer when she has time, possible that she is asleep right now.
rotund oar
If you want the information from that Podcast you can find them here: https://ashespost.com/8-15-19-dcn-transcript/
open sierra
thanks !
rotund oar
ask the right questions, get the right answers.
open sierra
i just hate people who want to squeezing money from other people ๐
reef prawn
It is pretty disappointing indeed, not on DCN's part though
crystal beacon
It's only the DCN replay who is sub restricted. You can watch the live for free
short hawk
Is intrepid going to twitchcon in an official capacity?
reef prawn
They have not stated their plans for it yet.
short hawk
comin down to the wire
tulip hatch
Intrepid has mostly been focusing on development
The CMs have stated that if they had plans to go to an event they would announce it with plenty of notice so people could properly prepare.
short hawk
just seems strange since its down the road
hasty garden
I have a question what will appen when we die in the game do we lose xp does our stuff get damage?
short hawk
You got a link on that Jahlon
lucid mauve
Sorry, as I'm sure this has been asked lots of times, but when does the next test session end? Unfortunately I go away on the 18th, so the 20th is going to be a session I miss, unless it goes on more than a couple of weeks
stable plover
@lucid mauve The session on the 20th lasts for 12 hours, the session after that hasn't been announced yet, but there should definitely be more sessions before the end of September.
lucid mauve
@stable plover thanks for letting me know - shame I'm going to miss this one!
heady flare
Did they say how long it will last?
fallen mantle
12h
fallen mantle
Also yeah that, they say it just above
desert ivy
You don't even need to scroll 
chrome kindle
guys what different from Ashes of Creation and Ashes of Creation Apocalypse?
acoustic rune
apoc is a standalone battle royale mode that uses mmo assets for the purpose of testing
silk oracle
It's not just battle Royale
Well atm it is
But there will be 2 more modes (siege and horde) in the future
All of those are there to test and improve mechanics for the MMORPG @chrome kindle
chrome kindle
@silk oracle thanks what this siege and horde?
silk oracle
Siege mode will be pvp castlesieges and horde mode will be players vs hordes of mobs
empty fjord
will they be testing the monster coin system in horde mode?
small pecan
Absolutely!
โMonster coins enable players to join the game as part of the horde.[3]โ
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse_horde_mode
chrome kindle
is there away to be this game free?
glass swallow
@chrome kindle This play test is open to all registered users, and you can register an account on our website here if you donโt already have one. The latest patch will be available from our website starting on Monday, August 19 at 2PM PDT, so you can get ready for the play test that kicks off at 11AM PDT on Tuesday, August 20!
This is for the APOC BR testing. The Ashes of Creation MMORPG which has not yet entered Alpha testing phases will be a Monthly Subscription model
small pecan
Also, the MMO has a referral system that lets you get whatโs basically โIntrepid Bucksโ when referees spend money. So if you have enough active referees, you can play for free!
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Referral_program
chrome kindle
i am alredy register and i dont know how use referral program
stable plover
@chrome kindle Go to this page https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/profile/referrals and it will have a referral code that the person your referring enters when they make their account.
vale turtle
Did they change how much characters you can use in your forum signature? It seems that links take way too many character than they should.
plucky pawn
@vale turtle No change was made to that field, it's always been 150px height max on images, and 150 characters max!
vale turtle
Why can't I enter the first signature anymore then? I just changed my sig to test something out and cannot enter the original one anymore, stumbling upon the error. Images scale automatically so that's not the issue.
Also as stated, my nametag '-Syl' is seen as 18 character total
'-Syl' should not be 18 characters in total
plucky pawn
Just typing "-Syl" alone with nothing else in the field? At the moment it appears that it's counting the markdown as part of the characters, which may be a change Vanilla made recently (I can go digging through their patch notes!)
plucky pawn
Can you please DM me a screenshot of you just typing "-Syl" in there and how you recognize it thinks it's 18 characters?
@vale turtle Ty for the additional details! I reached out to Vanilla to see if this was a change that happened with their editor, where BBCode markup is now counting towards characters. If so, we'll adjust accordingly!
fathom ocean
Any ETA on when the referral links come back?
plucky pawn
@fathom ocean Bringing referrals back online was the first step; referral links are set to make a comeback in the future as called out in the patch notes for our recent maintenance, but no ETA to share on that yet!
fathom ocean
๐
white sequoia
@plucky pawn ๐ฉ isnt it the 20th yet
open sierra
๐
scarlet moth
Did Intrepid delete the Hero Package for upgrade to Kickstarter?
Oops. Had to scroll a bit. My bad.
Panic at the Disco.
vagrant aspen
*Fun question
Do we know yet if we'll be limited to 1 pet or can we have multiple out at once? (Looking at pets on shop and like, would be cool if we could.)
hasty garden
What can we do in sea there are boat there are water mount but what is in water? Dungeon? Fishing area? Underwater cave?
dark jungle
It will be immersive and indepth 
unreal maple
so the Referral Program no longer uses a URL but a unique code now? also I have 2 codes what one do I use?
stable plover
@unreal maple URL's will theoretically eventually return, but probably not for a while. Theoretically either of your codes should work.
unreal maple
@stable plover as long as they both are for me wouldent want to give my 1 ref away lol
golden parrot
When will the new Apoc be downloadable?
Not necessarily playable, but downloadable
plucky pawn
@golden parrot Ashes of Creation Apocalypse will be available for download from the Ashes of Creation website and through Steam starting Monday, August 19, 2019 at 2PM PDT - as called out in our FAQ!
Oooh I should update that with our FAQ, one sec ๐
chilly mortar
Sorry if I missed it, but will there be proper challenging instanced PvE raids? I mean like raids in WoW or Lotro 16-player operations in SWTOR? Where you have clear class roles in tanking, healing, single target DPS, AoE DPS, debuff, buff?
ruby swift
chilly mortar
ah nice, very good ๐ @idle siren @ruby swift
sterile sluice
I bought the game back in Kickstarter I now see that you have gone the dark path of my.com ... do I have to register my kickstarter packs on the my.,com page now ? and if how ? (EU)
tulip hatch
There will be an option to migrate accounts to my.com in the future more information will be provided on that when the time comes. For now all there is to do is wait
sterile sluice
can we not just ditch my,com ๐ฆ
tulip hatch
Well my.com is the publisher for eu so most likely not, we know theres a lot of concern and intrepid has addressed these concerns before.
Hmm cireni i believe steven mentioned something along that in a recent discord Q&A
It is something that can happen but they have to figure out how they plan on going about that
fallen mantle
i must have missed it in that case
tulip hatch
There should be a transcript in #community-media and on the reddit
fallen mantle
thanks ill check it out
tulip hatch
youre welcome
sterile sluice
mmy how to get apocalypse as a download ? everytime i klick on register here it just logs me into my interprine account not a download link or so
sterile sluice
well maybe depends on what they cost so a 10 man minecraft server costs 15 bucks so lets say 50 ? @silent lantern
silent lantern
@vale turtle I don't mind that because i will be playing on NA anyway, but there are many backers from all around the world (KS backers as well).
@sterile sluice I doubt a server instance that can host 10's of thousands of players will cost 50 bucks a month ๐
remote axle
crystal beacon
Ok but does it mean the data are hosted by my.com and the game client is running in their facilities ?
game serveur*
crystal beacon
Mmm ok and is it an option to play on us serveurs even if i live in eu ?
silent lantern
@crystal beacon Yes, you can play on the US servers. Just register your account through intrepid's website
fallen mantle
why would you tho?
silent lantern
@fallen mantle why not?
fallen mantle
high ping
remote axle
I mistook the question for character migration, sorry
silent lantern
...
crystal beacon
Even if i have like 100ms ping it's not a big deal
fallen mantle
it should be around 150-300
silent lantern
If that person is willing to make that trade i don't see a problem.
crystal beacon
I'm not confident on having my data hosted by a third party
silent lantern
Yea, 500 ping.. If your connection is 10mbps sure
fallen mantle
who said 500?
silent lantern
...
fallen mantle
arent intrepid using aws for us servers?
silent lantern
I think that's the plan, yes
crystal beacon
Oh ok
fallen mantle
thats 3rd party as well
remote axle
Try to keep this channel for questions
silent lantern
whispers why not used aws for EU as well? Or am i missing something here?
fallen mantle
probably cheaper
hidden crane
That said, this is the Questions channel, so best to take the discussion elsewhere
leaden tiger
is AoC MMORPG really exist?
why still battle royal mode only?
i heard estimate release is 2020,
already more than halfway passed 2019, but still only battle royal mode testing,
big concerns on me 'is MMORPG really exists?'
fallen mantle
the kickstarter was made in a little bit longer than 2 years ago.... lets say its been in development for 3 years
thats pretty short still
remote axle
@leaden tiger It exist, they had to redo the back-end, so ended up pushing back release.
leaden tiger
im also KS backer , already waited too much
fallen mantle
isnt like 5 years pretty standard development time for mmos?
desert ivy
MMORPG isn't coming out before 2020 anymore
vale turtle
They ditched the 2020 release back in March when they knew they needed to redo the back end. As such, we do not have any dates not (until they can 100% meet those dates) except the next testing. The next testing is at the 20th of August.
tender plinth
Did I hear right that the game will be pay to play after all?
desert ivy
It was always a subscription based game
tender plinth
Never see anything upto a couple of days ago about paying
desert ivy
Even in the Kickstarter days we knew it was subscription based
tulip hatch
in the kickstarter FAQ you can see that it was stated to be sub based with no box price
desert ivy
since one of the perks they offered was lifetime membership
tender plinth
At my age that's not long
tender plinth
Looks like I won't be playing after all
regal oak
i'll be playing cause i love subs!
pallid horizon
Are there any plan to join gamescom?
fathom cape
Very unlikely. But Steven said they will release a fun video around the time of Gamescom.
pallid horizon
Thanks
hasty garden
Does caravans are utilized only for quest or do we have to go back to the city with a caravan after farming ressources?
south crypt
any information leading towards the release of the mmo? like how far we are into testing?
slow meadow
still pre alpha.
south crypt
๐ฆ
robust furnace
Is anyone else having problems logging into the forums?? The page wonโt load in...
fluid scroll
I am having that problem and trying to contact Support isn't working.
ruby swift
There was someone else in general that was complaining about not being able to log in 10 min ago. Works fine for me
That was the person.
fluid scroll
ok, how do I clear the cashe? @simple ether
robust furnace
Didnt work
fluid scroll
anyone have a good link for support?
robust furnace
Had to download google chrome but it works now
fluid scroll
LOL going thru Chrome worked for me, too. Go figure.
arctic sky
Firefox doesn't like logins either
quartz coral
Some cosmetics features armor with matching weapons, are the weapons included with the armor?
faint linden
ััะดะด ะตัั ััะบะผัั ััะดะด ัะทัั
....
will the servers open 24\7 on 20th august?
silent lantern
No
summer robin
Is ashes of creation gonna be on steam?
somber basalt
the testing-zone side game APOC will be, and if I remember correctly, there are no plans currently for the MMO to be on steam
summer robin
I see ty
vale turtle
@faint linden The 20th's test with only be a couple of hours to test if the back end is working as needed. For persistent testing, you should wait for Alpha-2 if you have access.
(Google translated: ะขะตัััะฒะฐะฝะฝั 20 ัะตัะฟะฝั ััะธะฒะฐัะธะผะต ะปะธัะต ะบัะปัะบะฐ ะณะพะดะธะฝ. ะฆะต ะปะธัะต ะดะปั ัะพะณะพ, ัะพะฑ ะฟะตัะตะฒััะธัะธ, ัะธ ะผะพะถััั ัะตัะฒะตัะธ ะฒะธััะธะผะฐัะธ ัะธัะปะฐ. ะะปั ะฟะพัััะนะฝะพะณะพ ัะตัััะฒะฐะฝะฝั ะฒะฐะผ ัะปัะด ะดะพัะตะบะฐัะธัั Alpha-2, ัะบัะพ ั ะฒะฐั ั ะดะพัััะฟ.)
faint linden
can i launch (in future) the game via steam? and will the my.games servers (russian region) will available?
remote axle
@faint linden Only Apocalypse will be available on Steam, not the MMO. This is ofc subject to change.
faint linden
ty
scarlet moth
Can someone please post updated information on the artisan / trade skill developments? From my understanding it is now a tree versus compartments. I think everyone starts as a gatherer or hunter and then progresses by processing, and then trade skilling. As example, lumberjack, to lumber processor, to carpenter? Many thanks.
empty fjord
@scarlet moth https://www.paradoxgaming.net/aocartisan
I assume the same information is in https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Artisan_classes
hasty garden
Yo I have some question about the bard I would like to know what s his special abilities for the group? Like rogue can find treasure mage can open doors ect..
ruby swift
@hasty garden That has not been released yet. @vale turtle The test is 12 hours on the 20th, not "a couple"
Q: When can I play Ashes of Creation Apocalypse?
A: This limited test session is from 11AM PDT to 11PM PDT on Tuesday, August 20, 2019. You may experience intermittent downtime during this window as we test or adjust network infrastructure - the best way to keep up with our current server status during the play test is to join the discussion on our official Discord!
silent lantern
Do we have any information on any class? I haven't seen a class kit yet or a gameplay video that shows more than walking around derping.
small pecan
We have some info on the other 4 from gameplay demos before Apoc! They all have their (potentially outdated) info on the wiki
silent lantern
I'd have to look into that but i don't remember it being anything big
small pecan
Itโs not huge, but there are some interesting things!
silent lantern
My point is.. We don't even have enough info on any of the classes we've seen, what's to say about one of the classes we haven't ๐
silent lantern
@acoustic rune weapon skill trees are supposed to be separate from the class skill trees as far as i know.
ruby swift
They are as of last info given, but remember as of last info given everything is subject to change now.
"Development is fluid."-Abraham Lincoln
quartz coral
Some cosmetics features armor with matching weapons, are the weapons included with the armor?
fluid scroll
@quartz coral you might have better luck directing your question to Maragret Krohn, the marketing director.
quartz coral
Ok thanks
plucky pawn
@quartz coral Just the armor, the weapon is there for show ๐
quartz coral
Thank you
silent lantern
You should probably remove it to avoid the confusion to be honest, @plucky pawn
plucky pawn
I can definitely see how that would lead to confusion @silent lantern - will share that feedback with the team!
silent lantern
@small pecan nobody reads
quartz coral
Lol
plucky pawn
Yeah I was considering footnote as a suggestion, but had a similar concern ;)
small socket
Can I play AOC APOC test without using steam?
urban gulch
for the upcoming test, will we resume progress from our last battlepass level? because the test was ended short and some people, myself included, couldn't complete it
so an upcoming test will resume it? TY @simple ether
empty fjord
Steven's appearance on DCN's stream, is it available anywhere yet?
ruby swift
Is it Monday? Nope. So if you want it there is a summary transcript or you can pay em $5
empty fjord
bah
empty fjord
till what?
white sequoia
till i can download the game uk gmt time
empty fjord
and then you'd have to wait another 23 hours or so to be able to play
white sequoia
indeed really hope we get alot more testing sessions sooner than later wink wink @tight gale
empty fjord
expect more shortly after if the test goes well
scarlet moth
Can an animal husbandry breed animals for slaughter, like cattle, fish, and foxes? Basically a rancher?
And some people eat dog and cat.?.
small pecan
I don't believe we've had any mention of slaughter with Animal Husbandry
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Animal_husbandry
just breeding and taming
oh, but there is mention of "livestock"--so probably some slaughter options
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Livestock
mighty kernel
scarlet moth
Mr. K - It is thinking divergently. Thank you though. Please call me Skaff.
half pagoda
When will the mmo part playable?
regal oak
any website we can donate to purchase food/water/drinks for the staff?
ruby swift
Sometimes people send them pizza and stuff. Look at the website. Sure to be some address of record.
dusty fable
can we download the new launcher for APOC yet?
hidden crane
The apocalypse download + steam page should go live in about 12 hours 45 minutes.
dusty fable
so 5am for me i guess rn its 4.18 pm
summer robin
when its live i have to download it from steam right?
vale turtle
Steam or the website
trail orbit
22h UK
hollow wraith
IS APOC BR streamable ?
remote axle
@hollow wraith yes, there is no NDA on Apoc
hollow wraith
NDA ?
faint linden
cant find APOC on steam... help me pls?
remote axle
@faint linden it should go live on Steam in about 10 hours
faint linden
ty!
remote axle
@hollow wraith yes, you can stream Apoc
hollow wraith
Thanks i just didn't knew the NDA acronym !)
vale turtle
Non-disclosure Agreement
low tartan
Will alpha be closed, or open? i mean, i'll need invite?
tulip hatch
If youre referring to the MMORPG alphas and betas you will need a key to gain access.
The apocalypse testing phases are free to play
low tartan
Yes, apoca testing. So, it no keys needed?
tulip hatch
No keys needed, just be registered on the ashes site and youre good to go whenever the servers are online
low tartan
Thanks for the answer
Last one
Will be free to stream/ make videos? If have one link to i read rules about alpha testing i'd like to know if have
tulip hatch
Apocalypse is not under any NDA so you can freely make content about it
low tartan
Thanks a lot
tulip hatch
Youre welcome
vital shale
So I can just log in steam and play free right ?
urban gulch
You have to have an intrepid account too, when you launch the app from steam, it will ask you to log in or make one @vital shale
vital shale
I see ....!! I got one I played the last Test . Thx tho
solar forge
can i see the game on steam right now?
crystal flax
52pm PDT
solar forge
ahh ok thx
tulip hatch
2pm pdt
crystal flax
Oh I confused it my bad
5 is my time but I kept the PDT
tulip hatch
both steam and intrepid launchers will be available at 2pm PDT
stable plover
The download should be available in five and a half hours.
crystal beacon
If i go for a 75$ pack will i be able to upgrade it later ? Even if the upgraded pack i want is not avaible anymore on the shop ?
tulip hatch
If the pack is no longer available when you go to upgrade then you can not upgrade to it
crystal beacon
Ok ty
white sequoia
3 hours 10 minutes !
weak niche
Its 4
mighty flower
where is the link to redownload the APOC client?
desert ivy
There isn't one yet
mighty flower
ok thanks
crystal beacon
in 4h
mighty flower
is it only thru steam?
weak niche
no, you can also use the website
stable plover
@mighty flower The link should be available in about 3.6 hours
kind steppe
Hiho. Does anyone know if we will be able to update from the Old Apoc client? Or do we have to do a fresh installation for tomorrow?
remote axle
Fresh install
kind steppe
Ok. Thx. Then I will remove the old client . ^^
kind steppe
Ah. Thanks again. This will help. ๐
open sierra
When we can seee game in steam ?
tulip hatch
2PM PDT you can see all this information from the announcement previously made in #news
vale turtle
in about 2.5 hrs
open sierra
actually i dont need steam i have the launcher :0
just wanna browse the page ๐
and cant see nothing in news
tulip hatch
old launcher needs to be uninstalled as theyre using an entirely new one
open sierra
can i download it ? or later
willow kindle
how do i link my kickstarter to my intrepid account
plucky pawn
@willow kindle Hi there! Do you have a Kickstarter code in your email from earlier that you are trying to redeem on your Intrepid account?
willow kindle
i cant find it as i order such along time ago sorry
fallen mantle
wouldnt be surprised if you wouldnt be able to link it then
dark jungle
there is an apoc test coming up soon, see here for instructions
stable plover
@willow kindle The launcher should be available for DL in about 100 minutes
lament delta
How did you make info channels have a different icon? Is this a boost feature?
white sequoia
@plucky pawn evening LT are we still on track for the download link in 27 minutes ?
@stable plover 100 minutes? was it pushed back ?
stable plover
@white sequoia 2pm PDT is in 86 minutes
plucky pawn
@lament delta it's a "News" channel, which a feature that some verified and partnered Discords get!
and yes, it's currently 12:34PM PDT
you've got an extra hour ๐
lament delta
Oh I see, I think this is the only partnered channel I am in so haven't seen it before 
white sequoia
hmm must have got it wrong when i did the conversion i thought it was 9pm GMT sorry ๐ฆ
plucky pawn
@white sequoia You can click on the timestamped link in the email or article and it will automatically convert it to your local time!
undone olive
Is there any news as to when we will be able to test siege and or horde mode or are those still under development
plucky pawn
No updates to share on that quite yet @undone olive , but tomorrow's test session in Apocalypse will help us work closer to those test dates for the other modes ๐
chrome kindle
how i can download aoc apoc?
stable plover
@chrome kindle DL isn't available for 82 more minutes, but you can DL it directly from Intrepid's website or through Steam.
chrome kindle
i am in website cant find link to download it
tight gale
It is not up yet. It will be available for pre-download around 2PM PDT.
hushed raven
Will there be familiar class representation within APOC or are they only present/available in AoC? (Trying to see if we can test some of the 64 possible classes within APOC ^.^)
dark jungle
classes will appear in apoc during the castle siege stage
stable plover
@hushed raven There are no classes in the BR, Siege mode has classes but they aren't the same classes as the MMO
hushed raven
gotcha gotcha
right I was just hoping to get my indecisive self a head start on the what should I do process lol
chrome kindle
how much the size game?
white sequoia
@stable plover clarify that again please ? were not getting classes or skillls just weapons skills is that correct? in this testing session
wow.. didnt think we were that far behind ๐ฆ
but the testing is to "integrate " this into the mmo but were missing some foundation for that to be checked and added into ๐
seems counter productive
fallen mantle
they are mostly testing the network stuff tho
chrome kindle
17GB oh this much
hushed raven
not really
true pebble
Just mean the classes isn't what they're trying to test in the BR
hushed raven
it gets the base combat system ready
you just dont get to play as a "spellsword"(not a class that I know of just an example)
Will APOC and AoC utilize a server que system? something akin to the que and wait at high pop load times.
plucky pawn
APOC now is about 6-8GB, I wanna say it's around 7 unpacked on my computer now ๐
white sequoia
ok well thanks for the information ill leave this test for now, and come back hopefully on the next one - good luck with the test ๐
stable plover
Are the classes for Castle Siege, Note things like the lack of an Engineer class in MMO and the lack of things like Rogue from MMO for Castle Siege testing.
(and again, the BR which is what is being tested tomorrow, doesn't have classes at all)
silver dune
What time can we download the client?
empty fjord
35 minutes from now right?
stable plover
Correct
chrome kindle
guys APOC test well be avalible play only in Tuesday, August 20, 2019 and then stop?
robust furnace
yea
crystal flax
Yes, for a 12 hour period I believe
chrome kindle
of i think it start in Tuesday, August 20, 2019 and stay some day open ๐ฆ
tawdry swallow
May I remind you we were supposed to get Sieges in April....
I am really very salty about this
empty fjord
many things were supposed to happen at this point, shit happens
we were supposed to have A1 by now
nothing to get salty about
tidal condor
hi
edgy owl
hey
buoyant siren
hi people
tawdry swallow
Hi
buoyant siren
link for download the game, pls?^^
empty fjord
wait 5-10 minutes
tawdry swallow
trust me if we had it, we wouldn't delay
crystal beacon
2 min
buoyant siren
๐ 1
wanton aurora
nothing x)
trail orbit
inb4 delayed xd
wheat tartan
where would we get the download from, when it
trail orbit
they prolly gonna make a post before
surreal elk
Tomorrow its live. You can pre download on ashes website or steam give it a few minutes
edgy owl
its been delayed by several hours
edgy owl
just popped up in server status
fluid scroll
๐
devout stratus
tawdry swallow
Now you see why I no longer have faith
empty fjord
ah well, guess I'll download it tomorrow morning before going to work, night guys
tawdry swallow
It is well founded
trail orbit
rip
lethal granite
gives it a steam link for apoc ? if yes can someone send me the link ?
desert ivy
The BR itself isn't delayed, just the download for it. Even if you were to download it now, you wouldn't be able to play till tomorrow.
surreal elk
tawdry swallow
Yes I need time to download it
so I can play it on time
but they seem so determined not to give me the time
so to hell with it.
weak niche
yes they are determined to not give YOU the time
tawdry swallow
Yes thank that is what I said
marble heart
Don't worry be happy!
tawdry swallow
Happiness is a luxury I apparently can't afford in this discord
trail orbit
they prolly will extend the test time
devout stratus
@tawdry swallow why do you need 21 hours to download? What's your dl speed like? ๐ค
heady flare
I'd say isdn at that rate lol
buoyant siren
Beta credentials? what is?
vale turtle
@buoyant siren You should download the new launcher when it's available to. The error you're getting is due to the servers not being up. They will be up on the 20th.
The download will be available in a few hours, when Intrepid announces it (it has been delayed).
buoyant siren
Ty so much!
vale turtle
The old launcher won't work regardless.
hidden halo
^ yup...remove the old stuff
vale turtle
Any time 
floral hazel
Can we dl the new launcher now? The post from their website redirects me to the Apoc main page and there's no dl on there.
floral hazel
Ah ty
devout stratus
@tawdry swallow should take you around 6 hours for 10GB
ruby swift
It is only 6-8GB
tawdry swallow
Yes now the download phase is delayed to God knows when
The old client was like 20 GB
if they compressed it to 6-8 that is adequate
tawdry swallow
Then that is the first good news of the day for me
plucky pawn
Size on disk: 6.08GB
ruby swift
@plucky pawn Is the Steam page up, not talking about the download button. Talking about the splash page. Cause if it is, not seeing it in Asia. One of my worries about the regional nature of Steam.
tawdry swallow
tight gale
It is not up yet @ruby swift . It will be up when the download is available.
We just notified everyone that there is a delay with the download. 
#web-maintenance
ruby swift
Thanks, didnt know if the page was up from the chatter it seemed like some were seeing it.
peak root
is the playtest only one day?
runic ember
peak root
oh.. I guess I still wont play then :/
I have a hard time following their playtests.. last time I tried the game was months ago..
heady flare
ya, hasn't been one in a few months
peak root
I guess i'll use my patience and come back in a few months ๐
storm raptor
Or just forget it
peak root
yah that might happen honestly lol
heady flare
just check the server status, news and streams every once and a while
usually post on social media in advance
storm raptor
I Always forget about aoc for some time
3~4 months and then come back to see whats going on
heady flare
there pretty good about keeping people informed on what is going on
a lot better than most games
peak root
Well if they are partnering with Steam im sure I will get updated.. I just hope it won't take several years to have something playable ๐
heady flare
depends on what package you got heh
peak root
I got none I don't pay for unfinished games..
heady flare
so most games then? lol
grand berry
5-6 years is decent pace for an mmo
peak root
anthem was a joke it sat in pre prod for 95% of the production's life. Biggest failure of AAA industry of the year/decade
heady flare
Bless maybe
hollow rapids
Decade is a big word
peak root
appart from Fallout 76 and Anthem I don't know many more AAA disasters.. oh well Nms got fixed at least
hollow rapids
NMS isn't AAA bud
heady flare
nms?
hollow rapids
No mans game
peak root
ya ur right they were a small studio
mighty flower
does the delay of pre download mean delay of testing?
hollow rapids
I'd say Artifact is the biggest one I can remember. But then, a decade is a long-ass time
heady flare
not yet
hollow rapids
@mighty flower hopefully no
tulip hatch
No @mighty flower testing is still scheduled for the announced time
peak root
fair question, it doesn't say AoC questions lol
tulip hatch
Questions extend to website/account issues
not only the mmorpg
but if we need to write down exactly what is okay and not okay we might just do that
gleaming iron
Well, download is delayed ๐ฆ
ocean hemlock
anyone else not able to sign in on the AOC home page ?
are you able to sign in to the forums ?
arctic sky
You using Firefox?
ocean hemlock
nope
I click the sign in button and it sends me to a blank page
hmmm apparently it doesn't work with Microsoft edge
ruby swift
Edgelords?
tight gale
We've reported that to our Web Team. Thanks everyone.
Please try another browser for now.
desert ivy
..
crystal beacon
@summer robin are you EU ?
crystal beacon
I cant help you then sry :p
summer robin
np
storm raptor
Just google it your time zone with PDT
ruby swift
"what is PDT in my time?"
mossy cave
crystal beacon
How would I find AOC on the Steam store?
desert ivy
crystal beacon
On the AOC site where do you DL the most recent patch?
OIC
Any insight on when the play test will resume?
Thank you
lapis moon
can i get a "@ everyone" when apoc is ready to be downloaded?
crystal beacon
Are we able to install the launcher yet?
storm raptor
You are a very nice guy to answer all this questions @simple ether
crystal beacon
why can i not hear anything with that latest dungeon crawler network stream?
iron gorge
^
brave tide
What happened to no dates unless we are 100% sure
Was that a lie or just a misunderstanding?
worthy schooner
Jahlon can we download it yet
weak niche
It is a test installment date(just hour) that they want you to help with testing
so yes they are basically lying
desert ivy
@brave tide The play date hasn't changed
worthy schooner
brave tide
The installation date did... oh and that was stated right or can I not read?
@desert ivy
desert ivy
You can install now
or at least you will be able to today since the page is up
which means the date didn't change
knotty tiger
So it's not going up on steam? i dont get it
mystic raptor
Can we use the launcher from the last playtest to download or do we have to do some new way? cause mine still says beta credentials not active
knotty tiger
you cant use that
mystic raptor
thats dumb, ok
tulip hatch
Its up on both steam and website
ruby swift
@plucky pawn As I thought. The steam page doesn't display here in Asia. Have restarted client and all that jazz. I can see it logged out as a NA person, but my normal Steam account, no joy.
knotty tiger
Steam page here in norway doesnt display it either
slow gate
why only 1 day of playtime...
grand raft
hi, can i predownload from steam?
mystic raptor
Also, is friend codes working. My girlfriend is waiting on them before she signs up
otherwise we won't be playing
ruby swift
Look on your main account page and get your new referral code she needs to input when creating her new account.
grave inlet
I still have the old launcher, do I need to delete the files and re-download or will the one I have upload new patch?
ruby swift
Yes.
serene sparrow
Is the game under ashes of creation or apoc on steam?
ruby swift
New files. Completely remove old ones
serene sparrow
Ah both, Thank you
plucky pawn
Okay folks - if you can't see the download in your particular country's Steam store yet (after restarting/refreshing), please DM me what country you're accessing the Steam store from ๐ @ruby swift
jagged mesa
I see the controls for the apocalypse beta is on keyboards with number pads. What if people have tenkeyless keyboards, how do we activate emotes? Is there any way we can edit these controls to different keys?
plucky pawn
You can adjust keybinds through your settings in-game @grizzled storm ๐
jagged mesa
Awesome! Thank you!
ruby swift
Controller when?
flat mountain
so i keep hitting the play game button on the main steam page and nothing happens
it dosent go to library or anything
just resets the page
knotty tiger
Hmm.. That usually happens for regionlocked games. idk why it would do that in this case
serene sparrow
I'm getting the same thing
flat mountain
is it region locked from the US
somber basalt
getting the same issue Scothy, trying to figure it out
knotty tiger
maybe too much traffic who knows.
serene sparrow
I tried task manager and resetting all the websupport steam stuff
serene sparrow
Also realizing that searching for the game does not bring it up
knotty tiger
I just downloaded the game from the website. I cant even access the steam page at all tho.
Its basically nonexistant in my steam store
serene sparrow
Yea, just opted for the website download
eager wadi
The pre-download isn't Steam only is it?
somber basalt
no, you can download from their website
eager wadi
I have the launcher from last tests, but the login keeps saying credentials not active
knotty tiger
you cant use that
eager wadi
ah ok
knotty tiger
Uninstall that one and install the new one.
indigo marsh
does it actually download? I got it to open in the store on steam and I just click play game and it acts like it'll launch but cancels because it's not open rn obviously.
knotty tiger
Messages above say that people have issues with getting it downloaded on steam.
somber basalt
seems to be an issue that many people are experiencing and it seems the team is aware of it
knotty tiger
So website download seems like the best atm
somber basalt
just gonna have to wait for an answer if you want to do it through steam
austere nexus
I still can't find it on Steam, does anyone have a link?
worthy schooner
When you follow this link i can get to it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/942810/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse_Open_Beta/
BUT
plucky pawn
Quick question - for those of you who hit the "Play" button and nothing happens afterwards, are you connecting from EU?
knotty tiger
LieutenantToast you said earlier that the download was 6gb. why is mine only 2.88gb ?
daring igloo
It did it to me from US East Toast
somber basalt
If you can't find it on steam you probably won't be able to download it, that seems to be a common thing with people experiencing problems
and no Toast i'm U.S. Central
experiencing the issue
daring igloo
It pops up for like .1 seconds with the little gray steam box like it wants to do something and then it disappears and does nothing
summer robin
we cant play right now?
knotty tiger
No its open in like 17 hours
summer robin
oh ok
fallen umbra
@daring igloo I get the same thing
knotty tiger
Well i dont even have access to the steam page in the first place..... Just download through the website and it works right away.
weak niche
Isn't it literally what steam does anyway
plucky pawn
Ty all for the additional details on region! To be clear, this pop up occurs BEFORE or AFTER you've downloaded files?
weak niche
there is no mention of a download
somber basalt
before for me, no downloading occurs
knotty tiger
Toast i have a question about the download size. You said your steam install was 6bg. My download from the website was only 2.88gb. why is that?
plucky pawn
Thank you, I see now that it says "Play" whether or not you have it downloaded
It will unpack @knotty tiger , it's compressed!
knotty tiger
Hmm.... so it patches when we are able to log in?
plucky pawn
Okay, trying a different tactic here - if you have SUCCESSFULLY DOWNLOADED THROUGH STEAM, please DM me!
knotty tiger
Because im able to access the login screen and therefore i assumed the download was finished.
plucky pawn
That sounds like you got it to work successfully through downloading on our site then!
hidden halo
@plucky pawn hey...full client doesn't download? My folder is only 2.88GB...when I try to log in on server:
arctic sky
lol has anyone successfully dl through steam even? xD
willow iron
will cosmetics ever have a chance of coming back prior to release?
hidden halo
@plucky pawn sorry...tried again and it says this now: (which makes sense...)
willow iron
kinda sucks since timing and errors prevented me from getting some things...
trim isle
There will be more Shadow ๐
willow iron
more sure but there were some thing I wanted but missed
stable plover
@willow iron Once cosmetics are gone their gone, unless your going through my.com/mail.ru. Cosmetics might return in altered forms in the future, like say a 'duck' boat that's a modified 'swan' boat.
fading latch
Such is life dude
compact mulch
So are we able to download off of steam or not?
(sorry I just got on and I am very out of the loop lol)
knotty tiger
Currently people are having issues so all we have to do is wait and see. I just used the website though.
compact mulch
ok thx
icy sparrow
Nothing on steam yet
stable plover
@icy sparrow https://store.steampowered.com/app/942810/Ashes_of_Creation_Apocalypse_Open_Beta/ should get you to the page, but people seem to be having trouble actually downloading from Steam atm - If you don't want to wait to DL you can DL directly from https://ashesofcreation.com/launcher/latest
crystal beacon
Is anyone else running into an error message that reads: "Error reading from file C:\Users\name\AppData\Roaming\Intrepid Studios, Inc\Apocalypse\1.0.0\install\6B09651\APOC\Binaries\Win64\APOCClient-Win64-Ship-ping.exe. Verify that the file exists and that you can access it."?
stable plover
@crystal beacon Did you happen to have an old install of APOC and not delete the Intrepid data from your AppData folder?
crystal beacon
@stable plover I deleted the whole Intrepid Studios, Inc folder before installing this new one
@stable plover was there more i had to delete?
mystic raptor
I am having that issue Fly
its bugging out
I did uninstall, deleted all local files, etc
stable plover
Directions on how to do a clean install
crystal beacon
@stable plover Should I just run through that all again right now to make sure?
stable plover
mystic raptor
Double checked, No files are there
elfin stratus
is siege available for apoc test today?
mystic raptor
Launcher is downloaded. For whatever reason it does not like the files. Run as Administrator first, then you need to make sure that steam is not running in background or other game programs in the tray. It freaks out for some reason.
Make sure you have task manager running on side in case it is causing conflicts! Hope this helps fellow adventurers
dull salmon
hi team im installing the launcer on drive in my own Ashes of creation folder and im getting these errors
ive obviosly done something wrong
any advice?
maybe ill install it where it wants to be installed lol and try that
worthy schooner
@@plucky pawn small suggestion: make a channel for troubleshooting so we dont keep hogging up #questions :)
dull salmon
and just to confirm...yep installing it where it wants on my C drive worked like a charm!
tight gale
N'aww, this is what the questions channel is for. Asking about things! 
crystal beacon
Finally got it to install ๐
Quick question though: will we still need to install a patch tomorrow once it goes live? Or was that taken care of in this latest installation?
vagrant aspen
how do we get it to install through steam? or is it still buggy?
hardy bluff
SO WHEN I TRY TO DOWNLOAD FROM STEAM BY HITTING PLAY GAME IT WONT DO ANYTHING. IM ASSUMING ITS BECAUSE I NEED TO LINK MY ASHES AND STEAM PROFILES. HOW DO I DO THAT?