There formerly was, but names were changed
#questions
crystal beacon
@simple ether said earlier "alpha 1 phase 1 = APOC". That's why i'm a little confused here
dark jungle
apoc was called alpha 1 phase 1 briefly at the end of last year
but they retconned that and its now just apoc
apoc is separate from alpha 1
two different games
in essence
crystal beacon
Ok so alpha 1 (the one from the aoc wiki) is basically alpha phase 1 of the kickstarter ?
dark jungle
yes
crystal beacon
Ok ty :)
dark jungle
you are very welcome
and yeah it was a little confusing, which is why steven changed it
crystal beacon
Imo the wiki should remove the mention that alpha 1 was previously called alpha 1 phase 2, i think this is confusing as well :p
crystal beacon
Ty :)
opaque sable
The guild master can give payout to the members? Or something like this?
acoustic rune
Youre probably thinking mayor and incentivizing citisen activity with tax money
First time hearing about guild's alternative
hidden crane
It currently has not been confirmed if guilds can payout to their members.
We do know of an alliance warehouse where different guilds can pool-in/share resources with permission settings etc.
And that castle earnings share a % with the occupying guild
But that's the extent of it currently.
With guild war declarations and more planned for development, there's a very high chance we'll see a payout system in order to incentivize mercenary guilds.
However as of now, no news on that yet. TBA
opaque sable
Oh
quiet birch
@hidden crane this news helped me, ty
hidden crane
@quiet birch Cheers, remember to check out: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guilds
quiet birch
quiet birch
acoustic rune
What do we know about gilds? Will you be limited to one per acc, multiple like in gw2 with a choice of representing one, or one per char?
quiet birch
Im not agreed with this system, personally I think it's better to have 1 guild for acc
silent lantern
Lol
hidden crane
On the contrary, this system is meant to promote spying/logistics/intel/backstabbing as they contribute to the 'hate cycle' which will lead to the rise and fall of nodes/guilds and other player driven organizations
It's quite an integral part of it to be honest. Think EVE online but on a grander scale.
acoustic rune
Plus i dont want to drop off a fun guild just because some other one is more efficient. In case.
subtle wagon
imma be in a guild based in the snowy place
do we know much more about how weather may affect stats?
fading latch
That came up as a question in the livestream @subtle wagon
They said there will be weather effects for crops and theres a good chance itll transfer it to players in extreme conditions
Such as moutain areas with frostbite or deserts with heat exhausion etc
subtle wagon
ah so stamina debuffs, maybe mana and hp regen too
lowered stats bases on clothing maybe, or clothes to help counter
fading latch
The details werent shared but yh like that
Yeah they said if it happens, u can wear armour that will help
Steven and jeff mentioned a frost cloak
Thatll help prevent hyperthermia
@subtle wagon
subtle wagon
👌
regal oak
wicked
dusty fable
Apoc testing on august 20th is a one day testing or will be annouce?
All right thanks man
acoustic rune
I dont think that means that there will be a hyperthermia. Just a passive bonus that activates only in certain climates.
silent lantern
Hypothermia.. Hyperthermia would be in a scorching desert. Would be a nice feature to have in the game 🙃 🙃 @acoustic rune
It would ultimately be a debuf, like slowing movement speed or other stats. Though for movement speed i'd say frostbite or something like that is a better term.
ruby swift
Would have to ask @simple ether when he comes back, but pretty sure we have a firm no survival mechanics quote out there. So while there may be effects from weather, don't look to them being too harsh or game-breaking.
iron gorge
when is the next apoc test?
desert ivy
floral skiff
Has someone created a keyboard map or layout?
hidden crane
@floral skiff https://www.ashespost.com/alpha-1-battle-royale-guide/
Scroll to bottom
barren girder
Has Alpha 1 been and gone?
stable plover
@barren girder Alpha 1 for the MMO hasn't started yet / There's no date announced for A1's start yet -- The testing on August 20th is for APOC
violet swan
Can #news be made into a news channel so that i can link it to my own personal discord by following it via discords new follow feature?
plucky pawn
Heya @violet swan - that sounds like a neat new Discord feature! Would you mind DMing me more info on that feature so I can take a look?
violet swan
I have DM'd you.
ember sequoia
I just checked my account inventory on the website. the Wayfarer Pre-Order Pack I bought is shown as "DEPRECATED" I wonder what that means
hidden crane
If you've got an issue with it, submit a ticket via:
small pecan
Deprecated usually means something is no longer being used or is moving towards not being used. In the pack’s case, I think that pack is still available, so that’s an interesting message. That said, what Shaze said! If it’s causing a problem, put in a ticket
tacit tide
Expeted beta opening?
fresh heart
APOC test day Aug 20th?
ripe timber
small pecan
It is in ze dark for now!
blazing fog
Will the pangolins be pets? PweasE?
uneven ore
plucky pawn
@blazing fog The creature from today's article is called the Quarrior, which was previously in a pre-order pack back in 2018!
tulip hatch
the pets in the article have already come and gone sadly
late oasis
While there hasn't been talk about survival mechanics, every week will be a new season, which will affect people who are interested in farming/herbalism
tulip hatch
however you may be able to encounter a similar mob in game and tame it
late oasis
So we're halfway there I guess
daring veldt
Waaaaaaaaaa!!!! Quarrior so cute 😍 😍 😍
cunning vapor
qick random question: i spoke with @idle siren last year in cologne @ gamescom and asked him if Intrepid Studios will be on Gamescom 2019 and what could i expect ...
and i want to ask the same queston again now a few weeks before GC 2019 😇 😅 😉
dreamy skiff
Another random question: Are we still hearing royalties free music or did they get something done? Because the music has changed in the last few videos I believe.
raw niche
will i be able to make a flying house xdd
timber pond
Will the "quarriors" in game model be the same as depicted in the bestiary? Seems like a very high detail model wondering how this is going to look in actual gameplay.
runic ember
The video in the article seems to be their in-game, assuming you’re using max settings.
small pecan
Scurry is correct! In fact, the model may look even better by the time the game releases as they continue to iterate on graphics.
small pecan
There may be a first-person view, but it would just be a camera sitting where your character’s head would be. You wouldn’t see your arms, and animations wouldn’t be made to support this functionality
half narwhal
Is it still possible to pledge for alpha one access?
woeful zephyr
Unfortunately no
half narwhal
Thanks @woeful zephyr
native obsidian
With the current road map to limit characters in crafting skills/crafting progression, ie making it so no one character can excell at every craft skill, will that mean each additional Alt, will cost embers or extra monthly subscription cost? Also, has there been any reason as to why limiting crafting skills per character is to be implemented? As opposed to letting one character master each skill.
runic ember
Well currently, as it was framed in the latest livestream, a character that goes into Crafting (as opposed to Gathering or Processing) can be part of every Crafting profession.
I'm still hoping they limit crafting to one or two lines per character, since the spirit of crafting in this game was said to be interdependence and a living economy where crafting is highly valued. If everyone can master everything, then crafters aren't valuable.
acoustic rune
As far as i remember they said that its limited in a way that its too time consuming to be a master of all. Not sure
runic ember
Unless being a master craft has upkeep involved, which I think is generally not well received, the time it takes to master all crafts is irrelevant. If you can funnel everything into one person in your guild to be The Crafter, at some point they have enough mastery that you don't have to look anywhere else for any type of crafting.
small pecan
Yea, Steven said in a recent livestream that you’d master one of the 3 at most: gathering, processing, or crafting. So you can’t master all 3
ruby swift
@native obsidian There will be a "comfortable amount" of alt slots available. They have never given a firm number. There is no extra charge for more characters on an account, that is covered by your sub. Anything that could be considered p2w or p2convenience has been ruled out by the CEO. They feel that if you pay the monthly sub, they won't be trying to nickel and dime you for carry-on luggage. The reasons behind not being able to master every craft on every character like some other single player themepark mmos do is that it promotes player interaction and helps with keeping an entirely player driven economy healthy. If you have to interact with others to get your goals done, mission accomplished.
runic ember
Exactly. Except, going off most recent info, one character will be able to master every Crafting profession given enough time.
dark jungle
It was confirmed by Steven on the last stream that you will only be able to master one of the three artisan classes. Here is the exact quote When we reference not being masters of all that doesn't mean you're not a master within your own one of the three artisan types, which is you know craft or gatherer, processor. You will be a master of one of those. https://youtu.be/6GySx-cU6Js?t=3252
Steven did go on to mention that you will be able to master every profession within a single artisan class and gave the example that you will be able to master all crafting professions given enough time. But once you have done that you will not be able to master professions in the other artisan classes.
runic ember
Yes... that's my point. Being able to master every profession in an artisan class is far too much
dark jungle
That's kind of the point. If you master every crafting profession you still need other artisans to gather and process the materials to use in the crafting.
Unless you become a master gatherer and master processor on alts, which I assume will also be a considerable time sink, but possible.
acoustic rune
Yet what if you start by gathering and processing to level up an artisan with no knowladge of a cap? Sudden brick wall between you and the craft you wanted to master just because you decided to be self sufficient?
dark jungle
Its a game where every decision has consequences, so you probably have to do your research if you dont want to get any nasty surprises.
Kind of like IRL in that regard
acoustic rune
Ive never seen a game which would give a middle finger to a player in form of hard caping his craft exp
And seeing it followed by "shouldv done your reasertch" wouldv been an absolute disaster
silent lantern
Is milking cows considered gathering, crafting or processing? Philosophical question, i know.. @tight gale 🙃 🙃
runic ember
It’s a bit hard to believe someone is going to a master blacksmith, and a master clothier, and a master alchemist, and a master bowyer, and a master stonemason, and a master carpenter, and a master jeweler, all on one character. That shouldn’t be possible no matter how much time it would take. I’d much rather see professions allow self sufficiency within their respective gather/process/craft lines than see people have mastery in literally every profession that falls under Crafting.
It’s plenty believable a master armorsmith would have access to their own mine, and be knowledgeable enough to process ore for themselves. Way more believable than the system that’s being laid out currently
jolly pebble
I dont think they will go for a self sustain crafting the whole idea is to get more people involed in a high end crafting products
acoustic rune
im talking about self-sufficient. Youre talking about mastering all craft professions.
jolly pebble
so it is way more likly that the smith will need help from 2-3 other people with other skills to make the end game quality items
acoustic rune
ironically the quote states that youre suppose to master only gathering/processing and former mentioned crafting
runic ember
Because I believe it’s a bad choice in design to allow someone to be a master of all, when the categories of mastery are so wide reaching.
I’m saying there needs to be a choice in profession, in addition to artisan class at a certain point.
runic ember
There should be a hard cap for things you choose not to master
potent thunderBOT
acoustic rune
exp =/= level
runic ember
Well obviously anything you do will give exp. It’ll advance a node, just not your level within an artisan class/ profession.
fading latch
Reminder that crafting mastery is determined by your skill points spent on a particular craft.
runic ember
If skillpoints are uncapped, then that’s irrelevant.
quaint kayak
Hey guys, do we have a date for the 'highly anticipated MMORPG’s Alpha One'?
runic ember
Now that the full rewrite of the back-end server systems are done, we’ll get more news after the 20th this month when they’ve done they’re testing of the server. Been some speculation about the next two test modes in September or October, but that’s in the BR testing format
fading latch
@runic ember skill points are not uncapped
runic ember
At least there’s that
fading latch
Which is why u can only be a master of one or jack of all trades
quaint kayak
Hmm alright, would love if they gave us an official date but thanks.
woeful zephyr
Official date for APOC
fading latch
@quaint kayak alpha 1 wont be till next year bud
woeful zephyr
You should be happy they didn't give us an official date A1
Not sure if they would hold up
vocal valve
Hi back here, I backed this game a couple years ago and am now getting back into the hype. I would still like to keep upgrading my package but do not know if I am still able to. Please let me know
reef dagger
You have to look at your professions on an economic level as well mastering one and not others is what drives the commerce of the game
empty fjord
@vocal valve you are able to upgrade yes, was it a kickstarter package? if it's linked to your intrepid account you will see upgrade packages and individual addons in the shop on the website
if it was linked with your intrepid account on the old site and you just logged on the new site, give it a couple of hours/days for the data to be migrated to your new account
digital haven
Has intrepid confirmed no RNG in the cash shop?
empty fjord
they have confirmed no loot boxes if that is what you mean
small pecan
Er, they’ve made no mention of loot/mystery boxes. And generally they are very, VERY biased against predatory monetization and p2w
misty crane
I bought the $500 package ages ago but I can't buy individual items on the store anymore?
misty crane
I am logged in, I can see the order history
empty fjord
go to the shop
misty crane
yeah
misty crane
Nope, just All and Bundle
ruby swift
If you are logging on for the first time since the new system went live it can take 24-48 hours for your stuff to update.
plucky pawn
@misty crane If you're able to see your order history and your items correctly in your Profile, it may just be that you have a store tag missing, which our team can help fix up for you!
Once you open a ticket using the link above, feel free to DM me the ticket # so I can pass it along to the team 😃
misty crane
Great, thanks!
crystal fjord
Are the cosmetics redeemable on more than one character? For instance, can all my characters ride a stag mount if I buy it?
ruby swift
Nope...one at a time
as in one character can use one skin.
But you can change them
So if you decide you would rather your other character use that skin, will have a system for that. Where you remove it from the first one, goes back into account bank, then can be used again.
empty fjord
Race related question, is Py'rai Elves the same race as Empyrean Elves but different cultures? or are they two distinct races?
ruby swift
They are sub-races of "Elves" Each base race like "Humans" has two sub races that vary in culture and appearance. The ninth is the Tulnar which will have a 3 slider system to dial up or down between the racial cosmetic aspects.
crystal beacon
So, will the ironbark armor be elf only or will other races get to wear it. And if it is elf exclusive is it empyrean only? Such a good, Gondorian-esque, vibe to this set.
ruby swift
All armor conforms to the race that is wearing it. So it will be ironbark armor, just with a dwarven twist for example.
crystal beacon
@ruby swift thank you for the answer and I love it lol
jagged laurel
I like the cosemetics....but what the heck is the coach and the altar for? It would be helpful to know what they are used for in game before sinking money into it..
ruby swift
The coach is a caravan skin. The altar will change the look of a profession building on your freehold.
ebon rover
Can i still participate in kickstarter ?
ruby swift
Nope, couple years too late, there are backer packages on the website though that give similar benefits.
acoustic rune
@misty crane. Are you using mail ru or my com?
polar rivet
When is the release?
runic ember
Since they had to rewrite their entire backend, earlier projected dates have been scrapped, more info will be forthcoming once they establish the stability of their new code. Until then we've gotta be patient
acoustic rune
People really need to start using the seartch function
severe blaze
Why is the combat so slow paced?
woeful zephyr
What are you referring to
silent lantern
@woeful zephyr probably his life
abstract inlet
severe blaze
@silent lantern I am sorry but there's people who decide what key to press in less than a full second and would want a combat system where not every one of the likes of you get a full second window to react
vale turtle
@abstract inlet Nope. Cannot give a release date if A1 hasn't even started.
They will give other dates once they can meet them
silent lantern
@severe blaze hey, whatever tickles your twinkles, man
hidden crane
Unreal Engine 4 is currently one of the best available options out there.
desert ivy
There are games running on 20 year old engines lmao
hidden crane
If they chose to develop their own engine, it would add an additional 2-4 years of development time similar to other games such as Crowfall/Camelot Unchained.
desert ivy
And would be disgustingly expensive
Also how does that dude know how fast paced the combat is when they haven't even shown the full combat system 
silent lantern
Who cares about money anyway
south pier
Will there be APIs publically vailable?
silent lantern
@south pier probably not
but that might change and we may get some small access to some data
The answer for now is No though
south pier
Alright thks
severe blaze
@desert ivy ye cuz playing battle royale pvp in ashes is just walking around without any combat
desert ivy
Thinking the BR test mode is gonna be the final combat 
silent lantern
@desert ivy no but it is a pretty good indication of how action combat will be.. mixed it would just have the usual tab targeting for skills of your choice.
crystal beacon
People still complaining about this game and it's still not even had alpha 1 yet ? GET A GRIP AND GROW UP
modest sierra
cough test1
/test/
Learn to pronounce
verb
gerund or present participle: testing
take measures to check the quality, performance, or reliability of (something), especially before putting it into widespread use or practice. cough
crystal beacon
Was that aimed at me lol?
Thought so but was just making sure because you never know on the internet lil
brittle walrus
@idle siren @tight gale good day, please tell steven that his Game is so cool in terms in environment, aesthetics, deisgn, concept are above 10/10. but For the LOVE OF GOD!, why on earth your character animation is so trashy, i waited almost a year but still the animation is the same. no improvement, why cant you focus on attack animations? and not animal's animation.ALSO if you think that the combat system action base and Tab target WILL NEVER EVER SYNC as ONE!!!! Because Tab target will always be better that Action based , in terms in PING problem, and Blind spot's. so please DONT Ever say that you can BUILD a HYBRID system cause it will never be SYNC. Everything is the best . But as a pvp player, i dont think this game has potential. character animation sucks, and Tab target will always be over Action base . so sad for us player's you depends on our skills and quickness.
reef prawn
G1 Gaming is an absolute MLG player, listen to everything he's saying. Posting this in the #questions channel just makes his argument even more valid
ruby swift
Well, he did have a question in the middle of it all. So that works.
reef prawn
white sequoia
@idle siren is there going to be class discussions soon if i may ask 😃 - would love to see Great Fighter skills, background etc etc
wet lodge
@tight gale @idle siren Can we hope to see Religious Node blog this month?
idle siren
There is always hope my friend ❤️
tight gale
(AKA I am waiting on Steven to approve it for publishing. 
)
reef prawn
LOL
acoustic rune
@idle siren Any info on a lack of shop in mailru/mycom yet?
prisma crypt
People who play apocalypse will have access to beta as well?
quasi kestrel
This is thinking pretty far in the future. But since I am from the OCE region; will the OCE server be released after the NA one? and if so, if we play on the NA one will we be able to transfer our account to the OCE server?
desert ivy
@prisma crypt Not unless you purchase a founders pack
Apoc is open to everyone. Alpha and Beta are only available if you purchase the packs
gilded ridge
when is alpha meant to kick off?
gilded ridge
and next apoc is 20 aug?
desert ivy
Ye
quasi kestrel
@desert ivy Thanks
prisma crypt
@desert ivy only if I buy founders pack I can access beta on August 20 ?
desert ivy
Beta isn't on the 20th
That's Apoc
Beta isn't announced yet, Alpha hasn't even started
Beta probably won't begin until late 2020
if I had to guess
novel matrix
grave night
I can't find it anywhere but, is there any information on how long the test on the 20th will be?
A day, Week, Month?
woeful zephyr
For the day until they further decide if they wish to continue testing
desert vessel
@grave night
woeful zephyr
^ Thanks
vapid frigate
Is there a way to reserve a guild name?
rigid rose
Not currently
vast cove
how much and where do i deposit to get alpha 1 access? please pm me. 😛
and what's about npc or slaves what work for u ingame? i asked this in forum but it wasn't mentoined in the stream or anywhere? will there be some kind of contracts to sign with npc's and let em work for you like gathering ressourcer or crafting some stuff?
surreal elk
Invest in a time machine 😂
we know very little of how contracts will work, along with the artisan class (gathering) very limited info on the wiki's currently. as crafting is slated to be in Alpha 2.
vast cove
ya i had that idea before XD i was 5 days to late. you allready took out the pack for 500$, so i had to purchase that one for 375 :'(. i flamed my boss why he didn't pay out my loan earlier but he didn't care... 😢
ok, i hope it will come something like that, it would make the game more real and interacting with npc's in different ways makes fun when the KI is good and do things you not except 😛
stable plover
@vast cove It's planned that you can hire farmhands that are manageable in game/via app. There are also hire-able guards for caravans and freehold defense. There are also NPCs to be hired to work at player stalls. I doubt that there will be a slavery system.
vast cove
amazing 😄 that's what i wanted to hear 😄 wonderfull... im following this game now for a long time and i can say if you continue like this, this game will boom like WoW did in their best times. it's just like the best of all mmo ever exist packed in one wonderfull animated and designed game. i like that. im also excited how apoc will be this time. it was smooth and worked very fine even in the first trys.
sand fog
wide aurora
how's your day going?
fathom cape
Do we know if we will have to totally redownload APOC from scratch or just update?
Oh, thanks... Didn’t know that
wide aurora
we're assuming that's is why you asked 🤓
midnight musk
Hey. im afraid my account to be registered to US servers instead of EU.. is there anything i should do
desert ivy
That's not how it works.
stable plover
@midnight musk If you made your account with Intrepid on Ashesofcreation.com there will eventually be an option to migrate your account to my.com/mail.ru if you want to
spring dust
hey quick question what are your opinions on streaming when the actual MMO testing is available, will it be non disclosure or open to stream? cause I believe the BR was able to be streamed, though I might have been wrong about that
empty fjord
what was the latest news on referrals, are they open in the signup flow yet?
plucky pawn
@empty fjord Referrals are coming back with the maintenance on Monday that we just posted in #web-maintenance - check out more details here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2019-08-02-account-services-update-and-downtime-on-august-5
warped thicket
Anyone knows when will we be able to play AoCA again ?
empty fjord
Thanks Toast 😃
plucky pawn
@warped thicket Check out the command I just posted above!
warped thicket
tank you very much
south geode
hello !
is there any new about when to MMORPG test will begin ?
yea i saw the new about the apocalypse but i am really waiting to hear more about the MMORPG
ok i will prepare myself for 20 August
thank you
crystal beacon
It's not because it's a br that it will not be a glimpse of what the mmorpg will be. You'll probably be able to test the creation of a character, see how animations works. Test combat, mouvements, ui. See how the maps are done. It's something already
You'll just miss the core system of nodes, caravans and quests but you have already some videos about that
charred escarp
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this but where do I find my kickstarter code?
plucky pawn
@charred escarp If it's not already tied to your account (and you can't find your original Kickstarter code in your email to link it), please open a support ticket so our team can help you further! You can DM me the ticket # once you've done so, so that I can pass it along to the team 😄
charred escarp
Thanks! I dug deep into my email and finally found it.
plucky pawn
Glad to hear it @charred escarp ! You can redeem it on your account by selecting the "Redeem a Key" option under Additional Actions on your profile page here: https://accounts.ashesofcreation.com/users/profile
dim shuttle
So should most of us already have our Kickstarter linked to our account? I'm confused why anyone would still not have theirs linked to their account after this long. What am I not seeing here?
crystal flax
Some people back a project and don't immediately follow up on it
acoustic rune
Does "1 slot for ranged and 2 for melee weapons" mean that each melee slot represent each hand or own weapon set?
dark jungle
Each hand I think
So you could have sword and shield in both hands and potion launcher on back maybe
acoustic rune
They did say that there will be no weapon swaping mid fight, probabltly because of cd, but personally i like to alternate between shield and 2 h in some cases
pseudo merlin
Do I need to have bought a preorder pack to buy this month's cosmetics? The only thing showing up in the store for my account are the preorder bundles
acoustic rune
Where did you buy your preorder pack?
silk oracle
@pseudo merlin yes. You can buy single cosmetics of the same tier after you bought a pack
Before that just the packs
sullen glacier
i wonder, will that testing at Aug. 20 be a short one for a few hours or for a day at least?
still wyvern
We'll know before 20 Aug 2019. Steven advised us that we can expect to see more details soon
tawdry scaffold
I'm curious, the item "ODEON OF SORCEROUS AWE" that's on the store, currently states in its flavour text that "the Troupe lights the sky and dazzles the eye day and night until they must bid their farewells". Does this mean that the item will be animated with effects, or is it merely lore/flavour text?
dark jungle
i was just looking at that earlier today and wondering what that meant 😂
hidden crane
@tawdry scaffold Whether certain items have special FX or not is something we'll only find out once they are rendered and their animations added. Until then its best to assume that they have no such special effect.
dark jungle
and if you got two of them facing each other, could you make an arena 😄
ruby swift
Problem is they have confirmed that you can only ever have one of a particular skin, freeholds are account locked, so trying to double skin would be problematic, possibly an exploit, at best.
flint barn
Q - Will racial skins have pre-assigned genders to them? Meaning if I put my Fire and Ice skin on a female character, will it turn into a male? I know the original art showcased a female model, so I got kinda curious
ruby swift
Good question. They have never clarified that. But since we know you can put a wedding dress on a male orc, don't see them gender locking. The racials are a total costume though, so rules might be different.
flint barn
@ruby swift Yeah that's why I was wondering if it would overule the gender of your character. I don't mind as they both look badass as males, but having a female option would be neat too
ruby swift
I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think they racials change your base "underlook" and you can put armor over them. Might have that backwards. Even so since they have to make all 4 racials currently on offer part of the production line, and we know armor is supposed to swap to the base race type these are good questions. Doubt we will get an answer anytime soon though since it affects a fairly small segment of their population. LoM and above, and anyone that bought the fire/ice a la carte.
acoustic rune
I very much doubt that cosmetic skins are effected by race in any way
meager cradle
Are the Tulnar going to be able to fly or hover if they have wings?
acoustic rune
No flying
stable plover
@meager cradle Races don't give abilities on their own, they modify existing class abilities through augments - For example if you had a mage capable of casting the hover spell Tulnar wings might get a flapping animation and augment the hover spell to say give you snappier horizontal direction control - but without access to a hover/fly say on a tank the wings would probably be completely cosmetic. - I'd also expect Tulnar wings to be rare (to possibly non-existent, I'm not sure if Steven was joking about the insectoid Tulnar yesterday) , since only one of the silhouettes included them.
worthy schooner
When is the next date where this game will be playable for someone who is not directly on the dev team?
mental cipher
I'd like to know too as I just bought the Expeditionary pack
Oh sweet! So August 20th we get to jump in?
@crystal flax ?
crystal flax
Yep, but it's the APOC game mode
mental cipher
What is that? I literally found out about this game and bought the Expeditionary upgrade 30 minutes ago
crystal flax
APOC will consist of a BR, Siege, and Horde mode which will help test systems for the MMO
The test on the 20th will be the BR game mode
mental cipher
BR?
surreal elk
Battle royal is on the 20th of Aug, we have no dates for mmo testing @mental cipher
mental cipher
Oh gotcha, damn it
silk oracle
paper cedar
vocal valve
So I have been out of the loop for awhile. I am an original backer but lost track of it through life stuff and other games. I was wandering about tavern share, like if me and a pal go in on buying a building and turning it into a tavern if we could both be owner/co owner? Also marriage system and how that works, also how are the starting points in the actual mmo decided? I know im asking quite a bit of stuff and sorry I havent kept up
stable plover
There is going to be a freehold shared access system so you could say have another player help you run your tavern by granting them permissions to do stuff like use your taverns kitchen to cook, using raw mats stored at the tavern and deposit the finished food back into the tavern
acoustic rune
You can run a tavern?
ruby swift
Did they clarify that Tulnar can only start in Underrealm?
severe blaze
Can you bully people? Or they can do most things safely?
ruby swift
Missed that, thanks. I knew they had made it so the regular 4 races could pick their divine gateway because people had complained about being able to hook up with friends and guild members, didn't know the had locked the Tulnar after that.
severe blaze
are there "zones" like in archeage where you can pk without any repercussion?
with farm routes etc
severe blaze
so to pk ppl u'd have to settle being some marked player?
ruby swift
vestal lintel
Can we get a tamable wolf pet that would fight along you? o.o
stable plover
There's consensual pvp where you only end up marked as flagged for pvp instead of corrupt, but if you want to attack people that want nothing to do with pvp you'll end up corrupted.
ruby swift
@vestal lintel Statements about taming in the past is that you will be able to tame almost everything with the exception of named mobs and world bosses.
vestal lintel
thanks im sold, now just waiting on release
severe blaze
lol u drop stuff when u die as a non combatant? people will have crybaby tantrums
small pecan
It’s to encourage people to fight back while adding a risk/reward to adventuring!
severe blaze
I just hope they make the combat more active / faster paced
reading that, u can drop all ur corruption just by dying on purpose with 0 gatherables? also xp wont make u drop lvls so..?
mental cipher
Is there a good site to list all the crazy cool stuff you can do in-game?
small pecan
Earn exp!
severe blaze
I wonder how worth it would be for a highly geared player to risk dropping a piece of their gear that might be worth several months of farm 😃
for some materials
ruby swift
@severe blaze The death have to come from pvp, to stop people suiciding off of cliffs.
And the high geared player has killed multiple greens to get to that level of corruption, so they know exactly what they were in for. It is not drop gear after one kill.
severe blaze
what to do if not killing greens, they produce the most amount of salt
vestal lintel
Will time not add to getting rid of corruption and negative exp? For example you have 2 lvls of negative exp due to corruption, can you idle somewhere or craft items to pass time to wait for negative exp to go away?
ruby swift
And that attitude is exactly why the system is there, you want to play the fool, go for it, it is just how much of a time sink and risk you are willing to fuck up your character with.
@vestal lintel Nope, time is not a factor. Corruption so far can only be removed via a pvp death or through the questline offered in religious nodes. And high levels are not all removed on a single death or possible quest, it is a reduction, not a wipe.
severe blaze
in archeage it's not worth it time-wise searching for people to kill and steal from
so I wonder how balanced this will be to make it worth it
cuz it cant even be 50:50
small pecan
Well the goal is to make it an interesting (and mostly balanced) decision to make!
ruby swift
And the people who are developing Ashes corruption system have played those games for years and are well aware of their deficiencies and have planned to close those loopholes.
severe blaze
well idk them and idk if they are those roleplayer plebs running zerg runs and mostly sticking to green zones or chads
if it will be rewarding enough, yes I will be
crystal fjord
How will others know someone is corrupted? Be a red blip on radar that can be seen from the world map? Red blip when near? Will they glow if you see them? Will it be more subtle like black veins on the face that'll get more and more noticeable?
ruby swift
They have never said that you won't be able to PK, just that the risk v reward will make you decide whether it is worth it to your particular playstyle. Also remember, no fast travel. You kill locally enough, expect your neighbors to take a dim view of you and form posses.
severe blaze
way to kill the fun
small pecan
Red nameplate and will be treated as a monster for most intents and purposes. Also, there will be a bounty hunter system. So yea
severe blaze
how do they do that, do they have sonar or smthg lul
ruby swift
Magic DuH
severe blaze
bruuh, I have magic against it
ruby swift
The corruption magic trumps your magic. I win.
severe blaze
No.
mental cipher
We need to start making a list of everything we've learned to easily share.
ruby swift
But then some of us would have to find a new hobby
empty fjord
what is the plan with the apoc seasons? are castle sieges going to be held back even if the content is ready until the first season is over, or are seasons disjuncts from the testing phases?
mental cipher
Is there a Reddit for AoC?
still wyvern
Happens. You're welcome!
white sequoia
@tight gale can we have some clarification on this please as its something I have been asking about for 7 months,
The referral feature has been re-enabled.
Referral codes can now be used on registration.
Referral links will be added in the future.
Referral code page now shows the number of users referred, and legacy referred users will now reflect immediately.
Question 1: can i use my guild leaders current referral code once the website comes back up on august 5th?
Question 2: will this be part of the creation of the AOC account or the purchase of the package "once" created "
hazy peak
Will be there consumable items, except potions?(scrolls,poisons or missile weapons)
dark blade
@hazy peak yes, I'll be making moonshine 20 miles north east of my node... Increases rage by 20 points decrease judgment by 150 points
tulip hatch
@white sequoia if you already have an account then you can not use the referral code as it can only be applied during the account creation process
white sequoia
@tulip hatch i assumed that thanks but hopefully Margaret can confirm the first question or give more specific information on if i create a new account
tulip hatch
It would be best to ask during the weekdays
Though they do usually check any pings once monday rolls around
tight gale
Alluring is correct. 
tulip hatch
white sequoia
@tulip hatch was margarets answer to "asking during the week" or to the 2nd question i posted, ?
vale turtle
@hazy peak You already mentioned potions: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Potions
We will probably also have the following consumables:
Schematics: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Schematics
Food and drinks: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Food_and_drink
Tavern consumables: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tavern_consumables
That's all that I could find. I wouldn't be surprised if there are going to be scrolls and poisons.
For missiles we have the usual siege engines which can be crafted: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Siege_weapons
and of course bowsand crossbows . https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Bows https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Crossbows
We also have the potions for potion launchers which can be considered ammo: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Potion_launchers
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Template:Guns and gunpowder
Followup: it seems scribes will be able to create scrolls and books: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Scribes#cite_note-livestream-26-May-2017-51:37-1
I'm not sure if they are consumbales.
There is also word of Accessory Enhancement Scrolls https://ashesofcreation.wiki/College, Armor and Weapon Enhancement Scrolls https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Academy and the glyphs to create them.
Again I do not have any knowledge on them being consumables
tulip hatch
No Gattsu, was referring to my answer regarding referral
not name
the referral
there we go
white sequoia
so we dont have an answer to Question 1: can i use my guild leaders current referral code once the website comes back up on august 5th? is that correct?
if i created a new email account and signed up with referral code ?
tulip hatch
use the referral codes/links provided once the update is completed on a new registering account then youre good to go
white sequoia
merci ♥
digital haven
Will AoC have fist weapons/handwraps for those wanting to play a monk-like playstyle?
fading latch
@digital haven that weapon or class has not been confirmed in the list so far. Maybe in the future. But at the moment, no.
digital haven
Will there be offensive water spells in the game? something of a water bender or tidesage of sorts?
fading latch
You are asking for basically an 'Aang' playstyle? Yes there is elemental magic in the game (fire/water/ice etc). Maybe not the extent you are after but there will be some particular spells. @digital haven
digital haven
I'd love if there was a way i could specialize in just one element (i dont like the idea of a mage using all elements in their arsenal) prefer to just master 1 element 😛 maybe a cosmetic down the line to replace my fire spells with water? idk.. hopeful i guess
fading latch
@digital haven you can go wide or go deep in investment of your skills. So while one player might want an array of a variety of skills, they will be low level such as level 1 or 2. In comparison to someone who has bolstered particular skills to say level 6 and has fewer active skills but are stronger
fading latch
@digital haven https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Skills
rotund cobalt
hey, havent follow for a long time, is there a dif account service for EU backers? do you have to do anything to register there in order my account to not be on NA?summer backer.
rotund cobalt
tnx
untold root
why should i play this game ?
empty fjord
Because it promises great things
stable plover
For starters, the game isn't currently playable, so we'll go with, 'Why should this game be played in the future?'. Most people are probably interested in the game because they like the genre but don't like the currently available options. AoC promises a lot of ways of impacting your server meaningfully which I think is one of the things that interests a lot of people. I personally am interested in the games economic systems. AoC is pretty, art taste being subjective though. The biggest reason is probably fun. Social connections are probably the most important thing to come from the game, but if you only cared about social connection you could do something other than a game. I think AoC has been pretty good at fun from when we've gotten to play it so far, although it's probably best to wait and check it out later for yourself for that one.
robust marsh
As far as "environment" it's a beautiful game. But I think from MOST peoples perspective is that we need to be playing the MMO side...not the PVP side. Questing...leveling... general exploration.
reef dagger
@robust marsh I understand what you're saying, but keep in mind this is testing server/backend things as well so that the MMO testing and beyond runs smoothly and with as many concurrent players as possible.
acoustic locust
Is it possible to incorporate a "Silence" spell that reduces your opponent's master volume to 0 in game so long as they remain in the radius of said spell
small pecan
It’s possible to program, but we haven’t seen that in Apoc or the MMO so far
acoustic locust
dope
acoustic rune
1 - In Guild Wars 2 there is a mechanic that allows to interrupt an enemy skill with hard CC, which then forces that skill to go on increased cooldown. Are there any plans for counters like that?
2 - Assuming that contracts will be a thing ... Will there be a way for a mercenary guild to advertise itself? (Via posters, notice boards or some specific mechanic)
south tusk
Hey i havent checked in on this game in a while.
Do we have beta/alpha yet?
Do we have an estimated release date?
vale turtle
We had Alpha 0 and APOC, the next APOC test is August 20. There hasn't been a Beta yet and the release date is TBA. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release schedule
silent lantern
@acoustic locust that would be called deafen, not silence 😃 silence would be to mite his voice and text chat
tepid dragon
acoustic rune
@tepid dragon the idea is to have no mandatory grind. There suppose to be quests, but it's not a primary way of leveling either. You get expensive for pretty much anything, so expect leveling along the lines of gw2
ruby swift
@tepid dragon Quote from one of main developers during livestream "The grind...we hate the grind."
They are planning on massive amounts of quest content. Some of it you pick up from quest givers, some is area quests that appear and disappear in an area similar to tasks. They are going to try their best to break the fetch quest and "gather 10 frog legs and return to me" that plagues other games. There will be very little voiceover and they want people to go back to old school reading, if you just mash spacebar you will most likely miss hints and details that make your life easier.
reef dagger
@acoustic rune There won’t be personal contracts from player to player but they are talking about allowing player created art to be accessible much like archage had, so you could theoretically have mayor campaign posters etc. don’t see why this couldn’t be utilized for a merc for hire scenario
acoustic rune
they did say that there will be contracts on stream, but nothing complex
vocal valve
So would back to the parlor games, anyone think it would be possible to have gambling as a main source of income? Like i would love to chill in a tavern and just wager my life away.
reef dagger
Right contracts in the form of a mayoral contract guild contracts etc. just nothing along the lines of a contract/penalty system on the player to player level. So I wouldn’t be able to contract you to kill 14 ppl for me. It’d be more honor based between players rather than a mechanical obligation to comply or accept a penalty
silent lantern
The issie with contracts is they have to be very specifically tailored towards certain tasks. They can't possibly include 100% of player to player to environment interactions.
fresh heart
I thought we had 9 more minutes before forums went down?
I thought we had 9 more minutes before forums went down?
white sequoia
finally!!!! the referral program is nearly upon us 
honest sorrel
Will there be any promotions on pre-orders??
uneven ore
Game prolly will never come out, or it’ll just be a battle royal
tulip hatch
@honest sorrel could you clarify on what you mean by promotions on pre orders?
honest sorrel
@tulip hatch some dicounts in holidays or something like this
tulip hatch
Ah that hasnt been done as of yet, but that would have to be answered by Intrepid.
rigid monolith
Here's a little question in the form of a scenario:
Say you and guildie are citizens of different nodes. Your node is currently set to be sieged. Your guild has not been registered to attack/defense in this siege. Can your guildie individually declare to attack and you individually declare to defend, thus allowing you to kill each other? (Similarly, citizenship still trumps guild, right?)
stable plover
Yes
ruby swift
@rigid monolith Your node getting sieged removes your choice. Citizens are automatically defenders.
rigid monolith
@ruby swift The question was about fighting a guildie in this context, not about my choice. If we are citizens of opposite warring nodes and the guild hasn't officially decalred, it seems guildies can fight.
ruby swift
Sorry, saw the "you individually declare to defend" and thought you might not be clear on that. But Greypelt has the right of it as he should citizenship overrides guild flag rule.
rigid monolith
👍
rigid monolith
That's true, though it wasn't my question. Thanks anyway.
tiny wharf
are the forums meant to be working still?
strange because people are still able to post
dark jungle
!downtime
potent thunderBOT
dark blade
@potent thunder
modest sierra
where do we go to change name?
lime cairn
on the new website you guys listed an option for users with accounts made before 12/18/2018 to change username, pass, and email during the migration process. Any chance players who are already on the site will be able to change any of this or are we stuck?
woeful zephyr
@modest sierra Check our server notif
To change username on forums please go to your account details and you should find this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414482518650126337/608103246988312594/0d03a2c7f514ac9f6747f01a2c5f0f93.png
ruby swift
Is the Purchases 0 a known bug or is that still in migration?
woeful zephyr
It'll be the third tab
stable plover
@ruby swift 'Inventory' should have your stuff even if the purchases doesn't for now (based on my personal experience).
lime cairn
I was more so asking about account name vs forum name @woeful zephyr
ruby swift
Nope. Not that I can see.
woeful zephyr
@lime cairn It was a reply to the comment above yours
plucky pawn
@ruby swift Yep a few other folks are reporting that as well, we're digging into it now!
lime cairn
ah got it
ruby swift
But yes, inventory does list. Just missed that tab
stable plover
Inventory access for reference
grave night
@plucky pawn My profile also has the problem of nothing showing up in the order history but, the Ashes Shop shows the packages I could upgrade too.
If that helps with finding the problem
plucky pawn
@grave night Ty for the additional details! If you could please DM me your forum profile link, that would help us track down the issue - it's just a visual bug where your orders are not displaying at the moment, but they're still there 😃
woeful zephyr
For APOC battle pass, will the same items be there as last time? I think I remember Steven saying we will have more time to claim all the items since the pass stopped short
plucky pawn
@woeful zephyr we'll have more details on the Adventure Path/Legendary Path in the FAQ leading up to the August 20 playtest 😃
woeful zephyr
Okay thanks
worthy schooner
Gonna ask my question again, not interested in the BR, when will AoC be playable at any sort of stage? Implying you have the backer tier required or whatever. My friends and I could care less about the cost of the backer tiers and more about getting into an MMO with OCE connection
woeful zephyr
There is no set date, none at all
They previously gave out dates that they could not meet up with so they stopped until they were certain they could meet those dates
The original expectation was 2020 but that's been pushed back
To the unknown date
ruby swift
@worthy schooner And they have confirmed OCE servers at live launch. No confirmation for testing.
desert ivy
Yeah, I doubt OCE servers will be available until the game fully launches
desert ivy
worthy schooner
so beta for the mmo
desert ivy
Beta is gonna be a ways out as well
Since we don't even have a date for the first phase of Alpha
worthy schooner
this is becoming #general-discussion but it worries me that everything is being pushed back so much. Is it perfectionism? Is it unforseen issues? Is it lack of developing staff? Is it a bit of all?
desert ivy
The game got pushed back because they encountered problems with the games back end while testing APOC. So they took APOC down, and rebuilt the back-end from scratch. It's why APOC is only just starting up again after 8 months of being down
worthy schooner
cheers lads good talk xo
light flax
Will the referral details of what they purchased be migrated at a later date? Right now it only shows how many referrals and not the details we used to have on the old site.
Not even dollar amount showing up on mine. Just the number of referrals.
What’s with the name change? It is Jahlon right?
fervent hamlet
Got two questions, is the 2fa going to be a standalone app, and will there be a Discord plugin that allows players to add guild chats to their Discord servers?
Minecraft has a server plugin like that and it's pretty cool
silent lantern
Hard to answer that.. DM a mod or one of the yellows for help @white sequoia
woeful zephyr
I think some forum badges have been removed?
vale turtle
@fervent hamlet About 2FA. That has been there for quite some time, before the update. I have it set up through Google Auth on my phone, so my guess is that you can set it up through any authenticator as long as you can input a code or a QR code.
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And for the Discord plugin. There is going to be some level of Discord integration. Depending on how much of the API and other systems and such we can use remotely, a Discord plugin could be created with guild-chats in mind. This is speculation though.
opaque sable
Where can I see all previous pack from the shop?
rigid steppe
how do you change you forum name?
woeful zephyr
Go to your account settings not the forum page
then its the third tab on the left
halcyon inlet
How do you setup an offical guild?
tulip hatch
There is no method of doing it through intrepid
You just make your guild recruit people
Make a recruitment post on the forums and go from there
halcyon inlet
alright thanks
white sequoia
@tulip hatch you got any info about the referral program issue ?
i removed my code for obvious reasons but its not accepting codes
plucky pawn
@white sequoia have you tried without the hyphens yet? Does it still not allow it?
plucky pawn
I saw you DMed me earlier - can you please send me a screenshot of whoever's page this referral comes from, to ensure their code is correct?
white sequoia
sure it was my guild leaders page @rotund swift he is also missing ALL his referrals he had up to this point
plucky pawn
Maybe make sure there are no extra spaces hiding at the end?
white sequoia
i checked for missing / extra spaces 😉 in my jobs extras spaces is a bad bad thing haha
plucky pawn
Okay then please just DM me a screenshot of their referral code page!
white sequoia
will do thanks alot !
white sequoia
@tight gale worth noting your register button on www.ashesofcreation.com is not working it takes you to a page saying: (see below) i tried this on my 4g connection and 2 different browsers to discount cookies or ISP issues
tight gale
Yep. We are aware. They are working on it.
rustic relic
What are the referral Program Bonuses?
Like what do we get for referring people?
Is added to the referree's Account in Embers?
Does Sub count as what they spend?
neat. thanks! (pretty sure I used yours btw. Trying to get some of my own. :P)
harsh harness
Where would one go to purchase the monthly items? (not sure if im refering to them properly) I know the ones that hit tomorrow have some things i find nice. I purchased the Voyager(?) Package, but when i go to store i only see the other bundle options.
plucky pawn
@harsh harness Make sure you're logged into the site before you access the store, so it knows to show you the individual options!
If you're logged in and you still don't see the individual items but you think you should, please go ahead and open a ticket so our support team can assist you further.
river vault
I logged into the website to confirm my previous purchases were still there and they are not. What do I need to do?
Inventory?
Is that new?
I found it and it has stuff. I'll check it tonight to be sure
Hmm
Never noticed. Thank buddy
👍
spice stirrup
When will the add-on shop be updated to the new cosmetics?
tulip hatch
August 7th 11am PDT
spice stirrup
Roger. Thanks Allu
tulip hatch
reef prawn
regal oak
so on my account everything disapeared that i purchased when will i see them again?
oh they went under view inventory only* is that all good?
plucky pawn
Yup, this is just a visual bug that our team is working to address now! As others have mentioned, you should still be able to see all your items in your Inventory, even if they appear to be missing under your "Order History" for the time being 😄
leaden shard
Something wrong with account recovery system? Attempted to log in after some time, saw you guys did account migration for some reason, and now I can't receive any password recovery emails nor can I log in.
10-4, received one or two emails prior with temp passwords but none of those worked
Actually went through the process of typing in the new password but even it doesn't work, strange
dark jungle
probably need to raise a ticket
regal oak
!steven
plucky pawn
@leaden shard Our team just pushed a fix for a password error that was occurring for some folks earlier - maybe that's what you were seeing! Please feel free to message me directly if you still have any issues accessing your account 😄
leaden shard
Could have been, but everything looks good now, thanks!
I just picked the wrong time to want to update my account
mellow wraith
how do I play this game
last osprey
fervent hamlet
Are we going to be able to download the game before the game actually goes live?
Before the br goes live*
crystal beacon
Hello, I just received an email which said there is going to be a testing on Aug 20th. Does one just use their normal login they use on the website to access said testing? My account has access to Alpha 1. Or do I need to have a special login?
fallow fog
Any registered account will be able to play on Tuesday the 20th.
crystal beacon
@fallow fog Thank you good sir.
crisp hill
So there will be absolutely no full loot areas on full release?
Also is it a monthly subscription to play on full?
small pecan
Correct. No full loot areas. Intrepid is wary of giving players the opportunity to lose so much work on their character. Also, yes, $15 monthly! If you refer enough people who play the game with your referral code, then you’ll eventually be able to play for free!
worthy schooner
!apoc
!apocalypse
Where can i pre-download the apoc version of the game so i don't have to go through the full process on the day?
has a bad link
ruby swift
@worthy schooner They have said they will release information closer to the date. Since they had issues in the past with waiting until day of, then people not being able to test, they should give it a couple day lead in. Since they were able to give a confirmed date this far out and have stated in the latest email that they have fixed their issues, they should have a client ready before. A lot of shoulds in that answer though.
worthy schooner
Cheers m8
crisp hill
well if the absence of full loot didnt kill it for me the monthly subscription sure did. Too bad looks pretty fun
worthy schooner
raw kayak
I’m having an issue with getting my code from Kickstarter. What can I do to get it?
spring dust
go to Customer services and put in a ticket
raw kayak
Ok thank you
plucky pawn
@raw kayak check out the link above for support!
vocal valve
So will there be some sort of skill reset later in the game?
tulip hatch
You will be able to reset skills
silent lantern
@crisp hill there is no full loot btw
If you kill someone you can pick up a portion of their gatherables.. no gear or stuff like that
The BR is full loot because it's a BR
acoustic rune
gear drop chance for reds
silent lantern
and only for reds
and it's a chance 😄
True, still doesn't make it full loot though 
white sequoia
i remember an old game called Knight online where in pvp you dropped gold if you died in the pvp area (most people kept there gold in bank when they went to pvp) are you saying you can "litterally " go into an area get killed and loose a chest peice or weapon ? 👀
tulip hatch
If you are corrupted you have a chance to lose gear
normally youd just lose gatherables (raw mats) upon death
higher corruption increases the %
white sequoia
- whistle * that's some penalty @tulip hatch are there protected zones or can this happen even when protecting a caravan or crafting in a village?
tulip hatch
caravans/sieges and pvp related events do not have corruption if youre participating
open world pking does
corruption only applies when you kill a green player which means they did not defend themselves in any manner
white sequoia
but if you are attacked by other players when protecting a caravan and you die u will still loose mats?
tulip hatch
if the player retaliates its purple and no corruption is applied
you still lose some yes but a smaller percentage
white sequoia
for me personally who has been a grinder/crafter in every mmo for 10+ years this makes me panic :X
tulip hatch
wait youre stating during a caravan instance..not sure for that actually
white sequoia
either way cant wait for aoc 😄
tulip hatch
Will have to get clarification on specific instances but we dont know how harsh the % is yet and will be hammered out throughout testing
acoustic rune
There suppose to be a carry limit. You wont be able to drag around your whole stash of mats
hence another reasons to use caravans
white sequoia
oh @tulip hatch forgot to ask you last night (well uk time last night) if i purchase many $75 starter packs with different cosmestics and each one has +2 months play time do they stack ?
tulip hatch
Well why would you buy multiple 75 packs?
wasnt aware you could buy multiples, ill have to check with the team on that
acoustic rune
you buy pack once, cosmetics are individual
tulip hatch
Yes you should be purchasing cosmetics individually once you have a pack
spring dust
yeah once you buy a pack it puts the cosmetics separately so you don't have to waste money buying more keys and stuff
acoustic rune
next month cosmetics that is
white sequoia
ah oks thanks i jsut got my account fixed thats to LT yesterday so waiting for new packs today/tomorrow
tulip hatch
once you own a package you can purchase cosmetics = to or lower than the package tier and theyll appear like so
So theres no need to purchase multiples of a pack
white sequoia
aww nice ty 😃
tulip hatch
Youre welcome
native obsidian
The pack thing is confusing, it isn't easy to see that things are upgrades and that cosmetics are restricted from purchase behind these packs. That aside, should i be concerned that my Pax Pack is no longer represented as such and is instead a voyager pack? ($25 difference in purchase if i remember but not sure if there was a difference besides the pax east cosmetics which seem gone?)
silent lantern
That's probably why it is not called a Pax Package anymore. The cosmetics change every month. @native obsidian
tulip hatch
If you're viewing the normal shop then there is no pax packages, only the normal pre order ones.
If you can see your pax package in your inventory tab then you're good
native obsidian
That's what concerns me it doesn't say pax package anymore, just Voyager package. While they may be the same thing in a way, the cosmetics that came with the pax package i do not believe are on my list, and i am unsure exactly where to check now to confirm that, because the pax package info is no longer available.
dark jungle
^ im having the same issue with my pax 2017 package
it is in my order list but not my inventory
i have raised a ticket at Toast's advice
for your reference here are the items that were in the PAX 2017 pack
Falcon pet https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Seahawk
Trade ship https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Trader_ship
Caravan https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PAX_2017_Caravan
Housing Decor https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PAX_housing_decoration
native obsidian
Thank you Lex, yeah none of those are in my order history, and nothing at all was showing up in my order inventory or the reverse, can't pull it up.
tulip hatch
You should submit a ticket too then
dark jungle
good luck with the ticket ❤ 🙏
it was there before, its gone after the migration
give
actually here is a better list of the contents
native obsidian
Ah Pax East for me.
serene sparrow
Hello, sorry if this has been asked but as of now are we able to see the names of the accounts that used our referral code? I can only see the number.
white sequoia
@simple ether - before the migration / maintenance you could, Correct? why did this change? means a hell of a problem for guild leaders i would have thought
hmm i thought something did change my guild leader mentioned something was missing after maintenance
kk
quiet crescent
Where can i see the reward from a referral?
And can it be used to purchase cosmetics that were just released?
@simple ether thanks
fervent hamlet
Is stealth in aoc going to be true invisibility, or is it just going to make you mostly translucent?
stable plover
From the looks of things, mostly translucent
fervent hamlet
Aight, thanks
open sierra
How long time BR servers will stay online ?
Ahaa i see thanks cause i look for that info but cant manage to do it.
regal oak
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😦
i want to buyyy!
how do i buy
lol
fixd thx
xsolla sux
ornate obsidian
I remember the kickstarter saying that backers would be getting some cosmetic rewards once game launches, how do I check if my account would or is qualified for them?
ill be honest, I've no idea what that is
Is it something I check on my kickstarter account or on the AoC website?
So inventory shows nothing
to be clear I'm pretty sure I pledged less than the lowest tier, so I am only looking for the "all backers get xxxx"
Apparently I had an old account, and just migrated it
no idea, ill check old emails
So I have emails saying I successfully backed the project, and another saying that AoC is integrating the data from kickstarter
but nothing about a code
Send ticket through AoC website or through email?
I am not seeing an option to create a ticket, any chance you could send me a link? 😃
oblique cedar
!s wisdom
ornate obsidian
Regards @simple ether . Ty for the help mate
tough stone
how do we get access to play the mmo right now???
if anyone knows
i thought alpha 1 already happpened, thats why they removed the pack from the store?
desert ivy
No, they removed Alpha 1 from the store because they had all the testers that they needed for it.
tough stone
ok do they know when testing starts or a timeline for phases????
desert ivy
No, we don't have a timeline or any dates
vocal valve
If i upgrade my backer package now to get into alpha 1 would i still be able to actually get in
lavish raptor
If I have Alpha 1 package already, can I just buy new cosmetics and do not pay for access to Alpha 2, Betas, and extra months of the game time?
tulip hatch
Yes you can purchase the cosmetics alone, just make sure youre logged in
wraith blaze
How do I purchase just one cosmetic, not the whole pack
dark jungle
log in to yr account, go to the store and if you have a pack already you should see individual items
so if you purchased a voyager pack in the past, you will see the current items from voyager as single items
etc
lavish raptor
Thank you!
white sequoia
Question is Name reservation (on the top tier pack) Singular or plural ?
surreal elk
single
quiet birch
If I can't see the order I made it's just a bug right?
It's been 5 minutes still like this
white sequoia
how long is the duration of the next test on august 20th please? could not see an End date on the FAQ page
hidden crane
@white sequoia The test is intended to be a single test for the 20th. Future testing will be announced based on the results of that test.
white sequoia
oh so its one day only @hidden crane
white sequoia
kk thanks m8
quiet birch
@plucky pawn have to send a ticket for my problem?
hidden crane
@quiet birch You probably should send in a ticket asap, just in case.
quiet birch
ye I think so too
tulip hatch
That would be the best option
Toast wont be available to confirm or suggest a different option for at least another 5 hours
white sequoia
@tulip hatch Morning, do you happen to know if the founder packs youi buy pass on 15% to the referellee like sub+ ember topups do ?,
tulip hatch
I believe so
I'll get it confirmed after
white sequoia
merci ♥
vale turtle
@tough stone This is about all we know regarding the release schedule. We are currently in APOC, just after Alpha-0. Alpha-1 still needs to starts but that will probably be after APOC or near the end. Again, no dates.
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Release schedule
devout ocean
When I first get into the game and I claim all the items from my Braver of Worlds kickstarter, will my inventory and bags be overflowing and I won't be able to loot anything for quests at level 1? Or would it behoove me to wait until I get to a proper city and bank to unpack all that stuff?
serene sparrow
@devout ocean I believe it is unknown if you get all your items instantly or if their is some kind of voucher that needs to be turned in game. However, the packs do not include actual items. Rather they are cosmetics that you can use to change the appearance of in game items after you obtain them.
latent hill
Where do I download the game
small socket
Is the test on 20 August only one day one or are they planning to keep running it for sometime?
burnt wraith
What phase were they planning on releasing more info on classes and when is that phase supposed to be?
vocal valve
@idle siren whats your pc specs on your home pc?
regal oak
Ryzen 3950 
regal oak
true
ruby swift
@devout ocean Your concern was actually talked about in a livestream about whether skins would be one at a time on a character, or would various characters be able to wear the same skin on the same account. The answer given at the time is that there will be an "account bank" where all your cosmetic skins reside. You go into that bank, select the skin you want to apply to a character, and then it is unavailable to others. When you want to change skins, you remove from first character, it goes back in the account bank, and then you can apply to a different character. The only things that are not skins are the cosmetic pets that have no stats, those can be selected and summoned from character level 1. Again, no duplicates for alts. You will indeed need to manage your in game inventory, since outside of the starting areas, until nodes develop there will be limited services until nodes "pop"
rough junco
So my referral program page shows two different referral codes. Are they looking into this in general or should I open a ticket?
visual fossil
Is this seriously going to be the skin for the summer crowdfunding founder pack? Compared to the kickstarter one this seems a bit underwhelming
ruby swift
Also, can you link the render of the Founder's costume? Really interested to see the difference.
Nvm, found it. It's nipple guy.
Makes sense though. Founders were KS, they came first. Then they sent the Summer peasants through as Colonists.
quartz coral
why doe the AoC Kickstarter page not show all the backing packages anymore? [stops at 470 usd]
dark jungle
At least they're not hairy
dark jungle
Pls no!
The gods decided to give all the elf hair to dwarves... I'm sure I heard you say that once 😂
acoustic rune
all natural
oblique cedar
Steven. That depends. Can elves have beards?
faint linden
will AOC released this year?
kind haven
Probably not, it is still in developement
acoustic rune
Ah shit
here we go again
fallen mantle
ive never seen an elf with a beard, so i think hairy chest / nipples arent really that realistic
acoustic rune
copying other elves point by point is a straight up rip off
oblique cedar
I'd like to see elf beards. Why can't I make a tall lanky guy with pointy ears and not have a masculine beard?
fallen mantle
yeah ofc, they can do whatever they want.... but there are stereotypes that you usually follow when making fantasy stories / games etc. and breaking those stereotypes is pretty hit or miss if they are seen as realistic or not
south tusk
what
acoustic rune
Not every elf must be a Tolkien universe migrant
south tusk
realistic
acoustic rune
fallen mantle
i mean they can make a bunny and call it a dragon, but since it doesnt follow the stereotypical dragon not many people are actually gonna think its a dragon
idle siren
bunny dragons confirmed.
south tusk
YES
vital shale
No taming in AOC right ?!
tulip hatch
there is taming and husbandry
dark jungle
vocal valve
Generally when do they release new cosmetics. I know monthly but around what date
hazy narwhal
Is the Titanbark with the most recent pack or is that getting swapped soon?
dark jungle
most recent
hazy narwhal
Okay great, ive some more time to deliberate on it. Best looking armor ive seen in the monthly so far
robust harbor
Will there be an Auctionhouse where i can see Prices Rising and falling over the last Month ?
pseudo merlin
yes, there will be in an economic node which is at the village stage (level 3) or higher
dark jungle
@robust harbor https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Auction_house
dusty turret
Will there be a bit of lore released for each of the races? What lore I want, nothing too spoilery, is each races' naming conventions. What are some common names and how are they similar to eachother in a race. How are they different compared to other groups?
An irl example could be how a Japanese person's name is much different than someone's name in America usually is.
Cool 😄
hazy narwhal
Will the Auctionhouses listed items be on a global market or singular to the node it is in?
tulip hatch
Theyll be local per node
economic metropolis has the perk to connect all auction houses of nodes within its zone of influence
hazy narwhal
Thank you
wet lodge
In early node stages, or those who do not have a residence. How will one store their materials/goods? Will nodes have warehouses?
pseudo merlin
hasty garden
What's the maximum lvl for our character in the game?
modest sierra
50
hasty garden
OK and are there ways to upgrade our stuff like enchentment ect?
reef dagger
midway down gear enhancement
There are two types of enchantments for items: Vertical and horizontal.
Vertical enchantments are a power progression for a crafted item. More damage or mitigations, added effects or bonuses.
Vertical enchantments include risks.
Horizontal enchantments are more situational. For example: I'd like my sword to do force damage instead of holy damage because the monsters I tend to fight are incorporeal.
This doesn't make the item more powerful, but instead more applicable to different situations, and less so to others.
This type of enchanting assumes no risk, just time and effort.
how long does it usually take for a ticket to be answered?
hazy narwhal
Okay thank you, am not able to sign in and i want to grab that Titanbark Armor and Stag mount
native glacier
Will AOC make a class/archetypes skill tree builder so we can start planning our classes before the MMO releases?
stable plover
The fansites will at least ;p
Intrepid has talked about having the character creator ready to go before release so people can spend time on that, but that probably won't include decisions made for your character that happen after creation.
native obsidian
@hazy narwhal my ticket was answered, fixed, and additional questions answered, within hours of me sending it in. (Sent weekday around noon, back and forth emails next two hours) I was Very pleasantly surprised, never seen such a quick and dedicated response. May of ruined help centers for me.
crystal beacon
Will the full melee system have mechanics for parrying or feinting or is it all tied to hotkey class skills?
small pecan
Nothing active like that has currently been mentioned. There will be % chances for things like blocking and parrying. It’s possible that they may allow attack cancelling in the MMO to serve as a pseudo feint, but no confirmation
acoustic rune
Pls no feinting.
crystal beacon
How will racial architecture adapt to the climate (Vaelune or Niküa in snow, Kaelar in desert, etc)?
warm jackal
where can i buy gold? thanks
warm jackal
ill wait for the chinese to get a hold of the game, thanks
still wyvern
No RMT talk allowed in this Discord.
acoustic rune
I hope shields will be viable for any melee situation, not only tanks
slow mortar
tulip ice
hey, how can i deinstall the Game Installer? im cleaning up my PC storage and since i currently dont use it i want to deinstall it, but trying to do so from the Deinstallation Menu of Windows doesnt work
acoustic rune
@tulip ice try iobit uninstaller if you cant find the uninstall executable in the ashes root folder
warm glen
Are pve servers are planned or there will be only open pvp servers?
dark jungle
all servers are pve+pvp
warm glen
Yeah I know still want to know if there will be completely pve servers available
dark jungle
no
silent lantern
Nope
A lot of the mechanics revolve around having PvP
like Caravans
Castle sieges
clan wars
dusty turret
Gotta learn to smack around other characters
dark jungle
stable plover
Ashes PvP and PvE mechanics are too dependent on each other to separate them - PvE builds the world up, PvP breaks it down
silent lantern
That doesn't mean you can't purely focus on PvE or roleplay stuff... It's just that other people will try to kill you at some point
dusty turret
But if you don't fight back when ganked the other person gets a penalty
silent lantern
@dusty turret well, you get a penalty as well, but not as much as the one that kills you
warm glen
Okay, I can deal with it, but does dying in the game = loosing everything in your inventory like in Albion for example?
acoustic rune
@warm glen no
loud belfry
good
dusty turret
I remember there's a bit of negative experience when you die
acoustic rune
you lose gatherables, and there is a progressively increasing chance of losing your gear, depending on how intense your corruption level is
warm glen
Okay in this case i can live with it. I was only afraid of scenario like I farmed something for hours just to loose it 5 min after because someone killed me
silent lantern
@warm glen If you die you get a death penalty in terms of exp (you don't lose experience, it get's 'locked'). You drop a portion of your gatherable materials, but that's it. The killer gets karma and when killed has the change to drop parts of his equipped gear
OH... the killer also gets a stats debu
f
dusty turret
Your killer can also appear on the map of a bounty Hunter so theoretically if he is killed a bounty Hunter could likely return items stolen
But that of course depends on the player.
If corrupted enough they can appear on the map - unless that has changed
That's what I said.
reef dagger
You lose more if you don’t fight back.
Fighting back lessons the penalty of death on you and lessons the penalty to the one attacking you. If you don’t fight back you drop more, but the guy who kills you accumulates more corruption
vocal valve
I like this system
round belfry
mellow sonnet
has there already been an announcement on a tentative alpha 1 date for the MMO?
desert ivy
No.
empty fjord
there was an ish date, but it's been pushed back, now we have nothing
silent lantern
@simple ether foubd a typo.... the article about death penalties says 'Nodes are a rolling PvP zones'... this should be caravans?
native glacier
@stable plover Thanks for the info.
I hope they do release the character creator before launch, because it takes me hours sometimes to make a character😅😅
reef prawn
Same here, I want to make the perfect character and see the improvements they slowly roll out to the character creator
acoustic rune
it was said earlier that there might be a char creator but no progress will be saved
All tho i dont see the problem in making the same thing that Mass Effect did. Save character looks as a longass line of code, and paste it into the mmo's char creator when its launched
ruby swift
hard karma
I'd dig the bdo type character creator...
hazy narwhal
I wouldnt doubt that it will be more indepth that bdo's cc
hard karma
Yeah.. bdo is something else
native glacier
@plucky pawn Will There be wallpapers and background available on the website for us to download anytime soon? Thanks in advance!
remote axle
@native glacier I would assume so, for now we have the old Press Kit available with some Wallpapers, https://www.igdb.com/games/ashes-of-creation/presskit
native glacier
@remote axle Thanks so much!
crystal beacon
Are there any plans for a south american server? we are tired of playing games with high ping because companies neglect our existance
ruby swift
They have said that they will service any region that has a population that is large enough to deserve it. They have active heat maps of where accounts are from, if you want SA servers, better get to spreading the word.
For launch it is the bog standard NA, EU, and OCE have been confirmed as of now.
remote axle
Cloud Server Infrastructure means its easy to spool up servers around the world, but you need a big enough population to warrant the monetary investment
fading latch
@reef prawn @native glacier There indeed will be a Character Creation Suite sometime between A1 & A2 for testing. Its also been stated that we can save creations as "loadouts" to be used at launch. Of course as is with everything; subject to change
sour rune
@ruby swift I think that there is a lot of interest here in SA, but the current prices does not match our reality :p
ruby swift
Unfortunately you are most likely not going to see regional/country pricing. In a game with no region or IP locking of accounts it would be stupidly simple for people to buy their subs in the cheaper location if they were to try to discount it based on GDP or some other such factor. Reality does often work that way when it comes to shinies we want. We already had people asking if they could pay for their packages on Mail.ru then use it on the NA servers because the ruble conversion on the website made it cheaper for some reason. Think they removed that now.
tardy crow
hey yall sorry if this has been asked a lot but i only come back once in a lnog while and all that i can see is that there are currently no dates for even beta testing, is this right?
rotund oar
Yes
tardy crow
thank you!
hazy narwhal
@tardy crow starting a couple months ago, they stated that they will not release exact dates unless they are 100% confident about it.
tardy crow
thanks for letting me know, i havent been in here since the first week of apoc 🤐 so yeah
silent lantern
@tardy crow There will be Apoc testing on the 20th this month if you want to join.
tardy crow
is this the castle siege mode?
west solstice
vocal valve
tardy crow
oh
well i like the game and i tried it out, seems cool but br was never my thing so imma have to step out on this
have fun though for whoever joining it
also its hard to play br when you're in oce and the ping is 200 or so 🤐
loud belfry
is the game not available for dl anymore?
loud belfry
ty ^^ Cannot wait! i had a friend who was gonna join too but we can't find the dl button anymore x3
stable plover
@loud belfry Presumably the DL button is gone because Intrepid knows they're making large enough changes when APOC returns that the game will need to be redownloaded. I'd expect details about pre-downloading when we get the FAQ document from Margaret and Toast
loud seal
any ETA ? stopped follow since apoc start
quiet basalt
Where’s that castle siege tho
loud seal
I remmenber the time they announced release before 2020 \ (^-^) /
hazy narwhal
It's pretty foolish to have even believed that. I highly doubt even blizzard could make a wow 2 in less than 4 years. Prob at least another year and a half before a realistic release, and im fine with the wait
sour rune
I dont believe the final version is coming until 2022
hazy narwhal
Yea, 2021-2022 is a much more believeable and realistic release date. As much as people might be upset about that, it's just reality.
Does anyone know if you are somehow supposed to link your kickstarter to your account on the website in order to recieve the benefits? Or will this be addressed when preparing for launch
crystal beacon
I think as soon as the beta will be playable ppl will be happy even if the final version is realeased in 2022
vale turtle
Not sure but the betas will be very close to launch
crystal beacon
Oh ok
crystal beacon
For the 8/20 APOC will we get a link to an updated launcher, or is that something I can download now? I deleted the old one.
thank youy
you
shy tartan
Hey, I was wondering if it will be possible to transfer your character from one server to another?
That would be really important for hardcore pvp players later on.
small pecan
it will be, but it'll also come at a cost: cash-shop paid currency and losing almost everything your character owns, including land, citizenship, raw materials, and more. and there will be a cooldown
shy tartan
Thanks
vocal valve
You know i was wandering how they would implement that. Cause starting from scratch could take a long time
white sequoia
@idle siren @tight gale good work on the Horse Animations (Idle Animations), Form from Body to Legs, Movement from slow to fast Trotting/Galloping, Front and rear looks good, Horse nostrils Air exiting could use a little work 😉 May I ask what other species are we going to have as mounts if its been disgussed? Wolves, Bears, etc
silent lantern
@white sequoia A lot.. including species that the players breed themselves through animal husbandry.
white sequoia
oh 😮 InterrrrrrrrEsting good to know, do you know if Pets are NPC mode or able to be used for attack purposes @silent lantern
honest sorrel
Will I be able to breed Dasypodidae??
silent lantern
@white sequoia you can have a mobility pet (mount), cosmetic pet which just follows you around and a combat pet that takes a portion of your power.. Example.. you are at 100% alone.. if you have a pet you will be at 80 and the pet will have 20 and utilize its own attacks and skills. Those are just example numbers though.
As for helper pets that gather stuff for you i don't think we have an answer
white sequoia
ty for the answer very kind of you 😃
Given how much this game has in it its gonna end up like the "trueman" show with Jim carrey, everyone will be converted to it haha 😄 20 hours a day needed to do everything 😛
silent lantern
Well, that's not necessarily true.. You won't be able to do everything and you won't be able to do everything ALONE for sure
white sequoia
i meant it as a compliment 😉 its got so much involved in it
solo and group based etc
silent lantern
Yea, that's true, provided everything gets implemented
fallen mantle
are different classes going to have different interactions with breeding? like some can sprint faster some can glide longer and some have higher % of getting x or something like that?
acoustic rune
nothing like that was ever mentioned
white sequoia
@idle siren @sudden kernel out of curiosity will the game support HDR?
fallen mantle
thats why i asked @acoustic rune
desert ivy
If its never been mentioned, how would we be able to answer it?
fallen mantle
well i dont know, maybe someone had some extra info i havent seen? And guess what, @simple ether did. thank you for the answer Shillon
acoustic rune
Okay. Big boi question, and need a concrete answer.
I own an advanced pack, purchased via mail ru. Is it possible to play on EU servers with that or do I need some sort of migration process?
white sequoia
unless it was purchaed via AOC website then no you dont need to migrate it
remote axle
There is no region lock in Ashes, you probably just set EU as your region on the My.com launcher
crystal beacon
Unless I'm just missing it on the AoC wiki, but is there a collection of pictures showcasing the skins obtainable (so far) throughout Apoc? I found one progression line pic on the wiki but nothing else!
hidden crane
@crystal beacon Scroll to the bottom of this page: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons
crystal beacon
Thank you!! But are there lists for other Apoc specific rewards such as hair and emotes? Those are the ones I'm having trouble finding 😭 Kind of like how this chart shows items achieved through progression: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/File:apoc-adventure-paths.png
hidden crane
@crystal beacon Ah apologies mate, there's no single list, they're all scrambled between various pages.
crystal beacon
No worries man - I'm a cosmetic freak so I was hoping I wouldn't have to pick apart the wiki and that everything was going to be in one spot thanks for the help!
wraith blaze
Will there be like, ancient inheritances from life before the nodes in locations such as ruins and there’ll be hidden weapons, skills or etc? Only those who are lucky or skilled get it?
turbid eagle
I wonder, if I buy the wayfarer pack now, and then I upgrade to expeditionary or voyager later(1 or 2 month later when the cosmetic already changed), will I get the previous cosmetic or the new one for the expeditionary or voyager package?
tulip hatch
You will get the new cosmetics that are listed during the time of purchase
you keep the previous cosmetics items from your initial purchase and gain the higher tier items with the new cosmetics when you upgrade
crystal beacon
Will there be a unique cosmetic / reward system progression line in Apoc Siege and Horde mode (like how arena had)?
small pecan
I believe the original plan was to let you play any of the 3 modes to progress through the season. However, who knows if the plans have changed!
crystal beacon
Oh! So, if that's what they're still going for, then the unique cosmetics I missed out on in Arena I would potentially have a chance at getting in the other two modes? I hope that's what they do 😭 ty!!
small pecan
Oh, well… they’re going to have multiple seasons, where you can’t get the cosmetics after it ends. And the first season might end before they add other modes. In that case, you’d need to play the BR!
crystal beacon
I keep forgetting but what's BR stand for again?
small pecan
Battle Royale! Where everyone falls into the map and shlaps each other with pointy sticks!
Until only one survives. The end
crystal beacon
Right - idk why I keep forgetting that in BR 😂 I thought the BR (is that also considered arena?) was finished with Apoc stage 1 (disregarding the extra bit coming out on the 20th) and that the next planned stages are Siege and Horde mode? So that means, if BR is finished, those unique cosmetics are locked and won't be attainable in Siege and Horde?
small pecan
Ah, so! Apoc will not have an arena mode nor has ever had one. Any arena footage you see was before Apoc and had no cosmetic rewards. Apoc will have BR, Siege, and Horde. BR isn’t going anywhere! When Apoc comes back on the 20th, it’ll be BR only. Then eventually we’ll get Siege. And after that, Horde. We were in season 1 for the cosmetics, and that same season will be continuing when Apoc comes back
crystal beacon
Someone was kind enough to bring me over to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O3GE8oXihs&feature=youtu.be --- was that progression line season 1?? I'm sorry I'm also trying to figure out / understand what the actual time frame of everything has been and my brain in frying trying to piece it all together
small pecan
Haha, it’s definitely confusing. Let me check it!
crystal beacon
😭 🙏 tyyyyy
small pecan
Ok, so. That footage is from Apocalypse. Apocalypse has only ever been BR so far. That is indeed the progression line from season 1. People were earning those cosmetics by playing the BR. When Apoc comes back on the 20th, you can continue to earn the cosmetics in that video by playing the BR! Any footage you’ve seen of an arena mode is super old. Any footage like this is from the BR:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e76ZyICAQi0
crystal beacon
My brain is lvling in knowledge!! Wonderful! Do we know how much longer BR will be running for? The 20th was just a quick test and, unless specified, wasn't going to be like a week or anything longer? Like, there will be longer BR testing still before the other two modes? I just want a chance at getting those damned emotes 😂 I didn't have a working computer before so now my heart breaks for the cosmetics
small pecan
I think it’s going to be just a quick test—we don’t know the timespan for sure! After that, it may come back frequently or not. The goal, however, is to have Apoc be persistent 24/7 eventually. Just that the current timeline is dubious!
It’s very likely we’ll get BR-only for a decent bit so they can evaluate the backend work they’ve done (which is the reason Apoc went down from 24/7 in the first place)
crystal beacon
Oh, so Apoc was consistent in the past? Wasn't that like around Dec. last year? I really do hope for a chance at BR skins before the other two modes come out!!
small pecan
And yea, you SHOULD be able to get all the cosmetics from this season now that you can play. I think Intrepid understands that Apoc was up and down pretty messy, so it wasn’t fair for people who paid for the Legendary path. So they’ll probably give more time for this season
It was! It was persistent for like… a couple weeks
crystal beacon
Oh wow - that's what I thought. I didn't remember seeing any long, persistent testing but didn't know if I had failed a knowledge roll check and just missed something. The cosmetic progression line was kinda long so a couple of weeks seemed a little short for such an intensive system (unless xp for that line was easy to get). Should I buy the legendary path now for the 20th (and later) or wait to see what they decide on system stuff after the 20th?
small pecan
No harm in waiting until the 20th! Things are a bit murky right now, so I’d recommend waiting for official info. I imagine we’ll get an update on that stuff leading up to the 20th!
crystal beacon
Great, thank you so much! I think I understand enough of it now to get through. I couldn't sleep because I got flustered thinking about lost cosmetics and needed answers 
small pecan
Excellent! Keep up the enthusiasm :D
white sequoia
Morning, I checked t he FAQ first but didnt see if there will be a Pre-download for the new client @tulip hatch do you know if there is a pre download for august 20th ?
hidden crane
A new FAQ will be going out soon with all the necessary information, including pre-downloading.
white sequoia
ok cheers 😃
reef prawn
Hopefully it'll come out more than 2 hours in advance lol
faint linden
can i connect to game via my.game launcher on 20?
hidden crane
@faint linden Yes, but you might have to re-download the new client.
faint linden
ty!
amber kernel
Is There a deadline/Time limit to buy the Voyager Pre-Order Pack for AoC?
silent lantern
@amber kernel The time limit is announced once the next stage of testing gets announced. If the package gives access to Alpha2 then you'd have time until IS says so. Otherwise you can wait for as long as you want.
In any case Alpha 2 won't come for at least 9-12 months so you have lots of time
amber kernel
Thanks :)
silent lantern
If you have a KS or summer backer account i think you can upgrade at any time
wet oriole
Where can i download the most recent client?
stable plover
@wet oriole The pre-download isn't available yet
wet oriole
Ah okay. Will it be send out via mail or?
stable plover
@wet oriole A link to it is theoretically coming with the upcoming APOC FAQ document - I assume it'll go up as a news article here https://ashesofcreation.com/news with places like #news / social media linking to it. There could possibly be an email, but that's really a Margaret/Toast question.
wet oriole
Okay. Thanks 😃
fallen mantle
do we know if classes are going to be able to use / have different stats on mounts?
oh and religion as well, like does some religions like different classes more than others?
dark jungle
class skills wont be usable on mounts, but players can use mount skills
fallen mantle
the same skills or different ones?
dark jungle
skills that the mount has, so different
stable plover
@fallen mantle Mounts have skills like 'Hoof Stomp' or 'Fire breath'
dark jungle
as far as religions go, we dont know if they favor particular classes