So far?
#questions
quartz coral
fading smelt
About two months ago, I requested a username change and was told it would still be some time before I could. Is that still the case @small pecan ?
grizzled light
Awhile ago I'm pretty sure I purchased early access, but when I try to log in on the launcher it says Beta Access not approved or something like that. How do I actually have access to early access?
dark jungle
!test
potent thunderBOT
timber idol
Is the beta out or something. I haven’t been keeping to close of an eye on what’s been happening so I’m a little lost. I was a kickstarter backer for 150$ I can’t remember if that’s an alpha or beta key. Can someone recall?
solid dome
!test
potent thunderBOT
solemn agate
Good day, when Beta 1 starts ?
vague gust
TBA. keep your eyes on the news channel for info in the future.
fair gale
I'm slightly worried if they need several months to fix a forum and few functionalities. How much can we realistically expect them to fix an mmo
Not to mention that they apparently can't stick to deadlines.
So.. Yeah gonna be sort of like star citizen.... Someday in the future it will come out
regal oak
i think they got a line drawn we hit this line for everything and we release. cause enhancing and fixing will always be there and can go on forever. Those can be done later down the road... with updates... so im sure they draw the line somewhere for expectations else it will never end hehe.
!test
potent thunderBOT
crystal solstice
Will AoC be present at GamesCon?
& the combat based on the few released videos seems a bit clunky. Is this something being worked on? Moving towards fluent combat like black desert & blade & souls. Or is the intention to keep the old school feel of a little bit clunky combat the goal? (not against any of them)
vale turtle
It is currently unknown whether they will be in Koln.
The combat system will be something like a hybrid between tab-target and action, afaik.
Things are of course subject to change, and we will know more when there's a playable state of the MMO.
crystal solstice
Thanks alot @vale turtle 🐼
vale turtle
spare sorrel
When will the next live stream be?
potent osprey
willow tide
Good day, question, do the backers get a mail informing when will they be able to play depending on the backing?
glass swallow
as the date comes closer, or is actually set, yes email notifications, discord, forums notifications all will take place
willow tide
Thanks 😃
regal oak
when i bought the xpacks and items xsola created 3 subs on my pp account i didnt notice till i went to subscription active area.. i cancelled them is this normal?
hidden crane
If you're referring to the monthly game time awarded with the purchase of the packs, yes it is normal.
However if you were charged for recurring payments in some form or discovered extra charges on your bank account, you need to contact Xsolla support immediately to get it sorted out.
blissful field
When will "Invite to Closed Alpha - Phase 2 (Persistent Alpha)" be available on the mmo?
hidden crane
@blissful field We currently have no available dates on any of the testing phases. Keep an eye on #news and your emails for testing updates.
blissful field
ok ty
raven heath
they need to start showing more in their live streams/updates. im getting burnt out on seeing/hearing " we are getting closer with no set date"
yeah i know. i have been here since the start of kickstarter im just ready to play or at least see some MMO game play to keep me wondering what kind of adventures i can have!
livid siren
They could put at least ana approximate TBA at ths point it kinda feels a bit they might announce the project if either not gona be finished at all or thre is no project
desert ivy
What's the point of an ETA if they can't hit it
raven heath
well my sadness comes from we should have hadd hands on it by now at least to test the mmo from their originnal plan and now it isnt even being talked about. So im thinking how far back is this thing really pushed back since we have to do alphas/bets/ and then release?
desert ivy
MMORPGs are probably the hardest type of game to make, and the most time consuming. Their original late 2019 goal was extremely unlikely.
tight gale
We'll be sharing more information as we can.
As Jahlon stated, we want to ensure we can meet dates before we release them.
We are focusing on development right now, and we have been showcasing development - tools, animations, model creation, etc.
Games take time to create and a lot goes into them. Patience is going to be key.
raven heath
yeah i understand that! im ready to play because it's the one game i have been waiting for! i just hate the wait and not knowing of if the delays are months/days/weeks or years
i probably had high hopes because of the original alpha date of this year but i don't mind waiting! just want my hands on this goodness :p
hope so!
tight gale
I can understand that. 
Just hold out. We have a wonderfully talented group of people working really hard on a game they all want to play as well! We're right there with you.
vital rivet
@tight gale i am, I don't know everyone, very happy to see group of people that making game firs for player and then for money, it is very important for me at last.
quasi walrus
i heard there are special hidden quest are they planning on perhaps hidden skills or factions you can join
burnt wraith
Any news on necromancer?
quartz coral
I wonder how old I’ll be when alpha 2 comes out
burnt wraith
a year or so older
golden patio
You will only be able to join one guild right?
tulip gale
Can you elaborate on that @simple ether
teal cloud
is there any testing going on right now. last I played was that apocalypse mode
desert ivy
!test
potent thunderBOT
ruby swift
That means you can have one freehold per account, not character.
So you will have to decide where you are going to base and play out of to be effective. Sure you could server hop from NA to EU to SEA as your whim dictates, but only one of those servers is going to have your freehold on it.
And by server hop I mean create separate characters and level them on those servers. Server transfers are meant to be tedious, expensive, and painful to stop those that like to server hop just because one server may have unlocked something you like more than the one you are on.
pastel sorrel
Will dungeons also evolve like cities in a way that there is no simple pattern they take up and will actually evolve and get smart when players enter them?
small pecan
They are not procedurally generated, so no :(
However, they’re hand-crafted, so they will not be simple
proven arrow
There will also be various secret passages in dungeons that only some classes may open for the rest of the group, as well as dungeons gaining new deeper areas as the node near it progresses.
scarlet drift
can we get the animated server icon phoenix as emoji? 
summer robin
xD
regal oak
silent lantern
opaque sable
Someone know how will be the combat system? I mean, we can use skills with a mix of buttons to press like a Black Desert?
silent lantern
There will be a limited space for skills that you can utilize. As for in-game button combinations, i think, but not entirely sure. No reason not to have them. People will just map their 300 button mouses anyway
opaque sable
I hope they implement it, I love this system
mighty flower
@opaque sable Yea I hope its not a spam and pray or just cycling thru and press/spamming cooldown skills. I would like more of a black desert combo style combat.
quiet birch
With this system you can see the true skill of people. If you miss a button you have fucked the combo
I want this mechanics
proven arrow
Currently they are aiming at more of a ESO, Conan exiles, gw2 or wildstar action combat. However we know very little if they've changed their mind at all.
Hybrid action/tab is their main description of it.
lusty obsidian
Eso combat system is fantastic, def something they should consider
Hello everyone :) i am new here
surreal elk
they already confirmed it wasnt going to be black desert combat.
granite siren
Are there any suprise mechanics in ashes of creation? loot boxes crates gems etc?
plucky pawn
@granite siren 
granite siren
Ea has recently re named or branded them as suprises
modest sierra
maybe
arctic sky
Surprise world bosses are the only surprises
granite siren
Ty for adressing my concerns seen alot of games companies try to lie to congress about loot boxes and so called suprise mechanics
small pecan
If Ashes has promised anything (besides making MMOs great again), it’s no p2w
granite siren
If the pets dont do anything i dont see a problem @dreamy quarry
small pecan
Vice, Intrepid is aware that p2convenience borders p2w. They will have only the lightest of convenience. If anything seems to stray into p2w territory, they will address it!
dreamy quarry
@granite siren of course! my dumb brain went straight to bdo pets
native crow
It has already been stated that P2convenience is considered P2w. The only things in the cash shop are cosmetic. There will be pets, but you will have to earn them in game to use the cosmetics on them.
crystal beacon
is apoc playable?
hidden crane
!test
potent thunderBOT
granite siren
Is the Battle royal free to test out and play?
Another Question is mydotcom still your eu publisher?
small pecan
BR is f2p! However, it’s not available to test/play atm. #news will keep you updated! And yes, EU is still with My right now. However, Intrepid retains all creative control over the AoC in EU, including how the game is monetized
granite siren
Ty ive just been watching alot of videos just hit lazy peons video on it
craggy panther
Any possibility that a trello Board / Development Roadmap will be released?
proven arrow
They likely won't do another roadmap until they are much further along, if at all.
quartz coral
Nodes 3
open sierra
I think similar like guild wars 2, many skills and limited action bar/skills 😃
silent lantern
Oof, just read the question about surprise mechanics and cracked up in the office 😁
@open sierra Yea, GW2 and ESO are good example of such a system.
mighty flower
@open sierra @silent lantern I would like to see a mix between like ESO and DKS3 combat system. I believe they said they are planning to create their own style of combat system.
open sierra
You mean reticle/crosshair? There was a question about that and i still remember it, "There will be a reticle all the time in AOC ?" and thevs sayd yes ! @mighty flower
I think this will be an option like in gw2
mighty flower
@open sierra no I meant like mix between the two combat systems. I hope its not just monitoring a bunch of cooldowns and buffs.
open sierra
The mix will be tab target and action target skills for example some new spells in wow 😃 in new wow 😛 when you attempt to cast it reticle will shown and you will be able to aim your spell
silent lantern
@mighty flower what in tarnation is DKS3?
mighty flower
I don't mind aiming 👌 and the AOE being like a circle you have to aim and cast.
@silent lantern Dark souls 3
silent lantern
Mmmm, well the combat there is not exactly stellar so.. dunno
mighty flower
@silent lantern 😱 lol
proven arrow
They have already shown some of what to expect from apoc. Don't expect too much more than that, if not less.
tulip gale
I come to this channel each day just to see expectations @proven arrow
proven arrow
I come here to temper them
vocal ruin
@reef mulch , @idle siren ... will you guys ever get back to me about me being unable to login? Nvm, its all done. Thx
@reef mulch , @idle siren I've been unable to to do so ever since these new forums were " revamped " nvm, taken care of, thx
plucky pawn
Yep @vocal ruin and I are chatting now, ty! And @open sierra, check out this bit from our most recent livestream that shows off some of the WIP beach/wave progress from the Apocalypse shores 😉 https://youtu.be/P2-swmpaW8Y?t=1442
open sierra
it looks unrealistical 😄 appologies 😛 you will need an update 😛
cant you steal it from other games? 😄
like there are 2 layers
and the upper moves on lower layer 😦
empty fjord
looks good, but the foamy layer moves way to fast when it recedes
open sierra
if the game is good f.. the water 😛
plucky pawn
Again, this was very much a WIP piece, meaning we'll be showing you how it comes along 😉
open sierra
YES the idea is Great sorry!
still bronze
!test
potent thunderBOT
summer robin
!test
potent thunderBOT
brittle acorn
How's release date looking? I haven't been keeping up with the info been busy irl
surreal elk
no release date has been given, all dates prior including the before 2020 is off the table @brittle acorn
fluid scroll
!test
potent thunderBOT
brittle acorn
:( I don't like this fortnight game mode i want a MMO to play
empty fjord
with some luck we might have Alpha 1 before 2020, but the outcome of that grows slimmer every month
vital rivet
Let's see live stream maybe a1 nearest that we thought.
desert ivy
We still have to go through Castle Siege mode so I doubt it
digital haven
Will classes have specialization trees? Or just be able to pick from a pool of class abilities to customize your rotation/skill list with?
digital haven
Any chance Intrepid plans on allowing for spell color customization? something along the lines of Warframe's energy color system?
Allowing players to change the tint/color of their spells? (ex. Blue Fireballs, Green casting animations as i raise dead as a necro instead of a possible purple?) things like that
Warframe did that really really well.
I'm sorry im ignorant and dont know what you're saying. are you saying kickstarters will have that feature or that its something already promised by devs during the kickstarter?
proven arrow
There are some kickstarter exclusive visual only color changes you can add onto some abilities. However there will be ones different from the KS ones available later as well.
hidden crane
@digital haven Horizontal/Visual skill progression/customization has been confirmed to be attainable in-game via various means such as rare achievements.
proven arrow
I don't keep track of quotes anymore but my long term memory is solid 😉
digital haven
Thanks!
hidden crane
@digital haven Source:
From the January 11th Livestream, fan-transcript can be found here: https://ashespost.com/1-11-19-livestream-transcript/
digital haven
Thats awesome! For I'd love to play a water elementalist. I dont want to be a mage that uses fire and ice and earth and lightning.. i want to use only one element. I dont like being forced to use a variety of elements in my playstyle to be optimal. being able to change a "giant fireball" into a tidal wave or the such would be amazing.
proven arrow
That may be possible but not entirely confirmed or denied officially
halcyon trench
wich authenticator was it?
summer robin
!test
potent thunderBOT
half spindle
is the game still gonna be released before 2020
desert ivy
vale turtle
quasi walrus
Is there a know your node diary for the warrior node type?
hidden crane
If you're referring to the military node - No, not yet.
The next in the series is expected to be the Divine node type, with military nodes coming in last
vital rivet
do we will have different combat stances depend on weapon type and race? For example ren'kai wielding sord more like samurai and kaelar like European
crisp sapphire
!test
potent thunderBOT
small pecan
@vital rivet, every race will have their own animations. That said, they’ll probably be fairly similar across each race, much like other MMOs. I don’t believe we have any evidence suggesting otherwise atm
novel matrix
when is gonna be the live?
spring dust
unknown
novel matrix
ok ty
native obsidian
ruby swift
All timelines have been scrapped. So your answer is no and no.
proper dagger
In the last stream I watched they were talking about characters being locked into their attacks. I am wondering what exactly this means. In some games if you start to swing an axe for example you can no longer move your character at all your totally locked in. I'm wondering if I start to swing my weapon but change my mind and want to step backwards will I be able to do that or will the animation/ weapon swing force me forward?
When I'm playing a character I like to feel like I'm in control of the character the entire time, the moment that the animations or attacks are controlling my character is the moment I'm not in the game anymore. I hope the game will not be on rails like light sabre combat in star wars battle front 2 for example.
ruby swift
They have said there will not be animation cancelling. People have used that in the past to create macros and workarounds to intended dps mechanics to gain advantage.
west heath
So i have a question...Has there been any news/confirmation on Voicelines/VO?
ruby swift
They have stated that VO is not a high priority and that there may be some in a very limited fashion. Most will be old school reading.
west heath
well, i guess im asking "is it going to be like WoW's VO where there is a voice line for interacting, but no actual voice acting, or is there going to be virtually none?
ruby swift
They said that at least going through development that it is an extra time sink and cost with very little benefit. That being said, many statements from the beginning of development have changed. One of the factors is any VO that they do will have to also be done in the various languages supported at launch. They also have to lock in those voice actors for continuity, which is also not a cheap option. So the answer to your question is "We will see?"
west heath
thats totally fair. I knew VO is a pretty hefty cost, and that the actual time spent into applying it, and making lines sound good, is a big deal. However, we have seen a large amount of growth in the Studio of late, and we have also seen a large shift in the development direction. So i'm both excited, and terrified lol. I mean, I was getting excited for this to release by the end of next year, but its looking like we're going to see Alpha 1 at this end of this year. Probably Beta 1 or 2 by end of next year
ruby swift
One of their big talking points is how focused development is and the lack of "scope creep." If those statements are not just PR smoke and mirrors then you won't see more for live launch beyond what was promised. Last thing anyone wants is a debacle like Star Citizen. But the supporter base here is different and would be very vocal if things started to creep. Livestream in about 16 hours, maybe news then.
west heath
Are the dev updates monthly now?
ruby swift
They have gotten much better. Livestreams monthly and weekly snippets of articles and developer diaries. Latest one on animation came out today. Check #news for latest.
west heath
i did just watch that. I saw that the "Floatiness and weight" problem seemed better than the last time in Apoc
proper dagger
I dont want animation cancel, but i also dont want to ever lose control of my charecter to the animation. the combat should be fluid smooth not locked in to an attack.
ruby swift
Sounds like an excellent question to post for the livestream. Keep an eye on news and forums and post it in the thread they will open for that.
proper dagger
yea i know its a tough thing to answer, im very hopeful for this game and want it to succeed and i know people dont like being locked in to their attacks like combat in SW battle front 2 for example. anyways its all good hope the devs see this and take it into consideration.
ruby swift
Yep, almost everyone here has high hopes for the game. They just want to avoid mistakes that have cause combat in other games to become a joke. ESO just gave up and made animation cancelling part of their dps encounter plans when balancing when they couldn't address it after the fact.
granite siren
If i may be permitted a question, Does AoC like its customers? or does it need to please investors first?
small pecan
The better question is “what investors?” It’s a private company!
crystal flax
The customers are the investors in this situation, via Kickstarter
small pecan
And they’re theoretically accountable to their KS backers. Though the backers are not actually investors
granite siren
How are developers treated at work are devs able to go to lunch when they want are all employees equal ie dev QA etc
small pecan
I believe they get catered lunch. I also believe their QA are not nearly as mistreated as those in the recent Kotaku article, haha
granite siren
What are the plans to reduce or prevent employee burnout
small pecan
Intrepid is much more of a transparent company, and we’d hear about big problems with inequality!
granite siren
I am seething about the way blizz has been treating its female staff
small pecan
I don’t think burnout is a huge concern given how new and full of life the studio is. That said, I don’t think we have some laid out plan about avoiding burnout publicly
granite siren
I guess ill wait till launch and drop all my other decade long mmos lol
You are an employee filian?
small pecan
Just in general, Blizzard is a troubled studio right now! They’ll either correct or continue to decline, haha
I am not!
granite siren
I dont think they will correct the ceo left and yo uthink you do but you dont is new ceo he also ruiend star wars galaxies when he was there
I only recently found out about animation canceling so its not on purpose?
small pecan
Well, Blizzard is a big company with an expansive history as far as gaming goes. We’ll have to see though! And what animation cancelling? Something in Apoc?
granite siren
nah in eso
small pecan
Oh, animation cancelling in other games is generally intended. And ofc people are very divided over it, haha
Usually if a cancel is too strong (like shaving off literal seconds), then it gets patched. But often times skills have a grace period to cancel early if desired
granite siren
But still lets the attack hit
small pecan
Yup! Usually the animation plays enough for the skill to actually hit before the recovery is cut short
surreal elk
plz have this channel for questions this has turn to a discussion please use the #aoc-discussion
small pecan
He’s asking questions!
granite siren
Question will gear stretch and deform as my characcter idles or will it look more real?
small pecan
AoC is being made in UE4, which has very high graphical fidelity. Intrepid is also aiming for realistic graphics. So if they can have it their way, your armor will not stretch weirdly in normal animations
quiet birch
@proper dagger Tbh, I want to be locked in to an attack, I'm bored about games where the pg can use spell and run at the same time, it doesn't turn realistic. I don't want people can spam skill and run away.. I prefer people can use the skill, and if they miss the objective, they can will go under cc or countered by the enemy. An example of what I mean is bdo
Irl I don't think u have the stamina to run and shot at ppl at the same time, it's not realistic 
arctic sky
I feel you have balance movement with strength.. nothing sucks more than being stuck in place every time you cast a skill with a long animation especially with no animation cancelling
gusty mountain
depends on the skills i would say, if its a really powerful spell then making it being able to cast while moving is not the best idea i would say
if its a filler ability for waiting for your cooldowns then yeh, running and using it is not a bad idea
quiet birch
proven arrow
Please keep this channel as short direct Q&A, if it devolves to conversation please direct the convo over to #aoc-discussion Thank you 
vital rivet
How much left for stream?
fallen thistle
Will PvE content be protected from the demand to balance characters for PvP. This was raised as one of the major factors impacting WoW after BC releasesd.
hard marlin
seems pretty simple, balance the game for PvP not PvE, the dragons dont care how much damage you do or "fairness"
dusty fable
@vital rivet 3 hours and 25 minutes
fallen thistle
See, that's what screwed up Wow as a role playing game and caused all the really serious people to leave after BC.
vital rivet
Thanks
dusty fable
you're welcome
fallen thistle
If "holy priest" has to be competitive in 1v1 combat with a warror, or a mage... then the balance for PvE is absolutely destroyed, the classes are suppsed to need to work together... group composition is a thing, and classes are different.
hard marlin
but it ultimately doesnt matter since PvE is against an inanimate "object" of the NPC's Ai, it does not feel unfairness or care if it wins or loses, however in PvP it is incredibly important to have balance since we are humans competing against humans
fallen thistle
If you make everyone the same you may as well just have one class... balancing the power of each class does not necessarily make them competitive in PvP... for example your healer class is an incredible force multiplyer for a melee class... but you would not expect a fight between those classes to be fair...
hard marlin
You never balance PvP around 1v1
fallen thistle
In Wow, for example... prior to WoTLK, being a healer was a respected class which required skill to play, but in WoTLK all the skilled healers quit, becasue they re-balanced it so no skill was required.
tulip hatch
👀 I love the discussion you folks are having but since its become a full blown discussion please move it to the discussions channels! Maybe others will join in too!
orchid saffron
I agree @fallen thistle , in EQ you better find a tank to pair with, because pure spell casters get crushed, especially in the early going - interesting question posed here. Though I'm gonna tank myself.
golden patio
Will there be factions that fight similar to WoW?
dark jungle
no factions
players can fight players, nodes can fight nodes, guilds can fight guilds etc
rigid rose
Will the NPCs of one node that is at war with another node fight in anyway that we have heard of?
open sierra
how hours until stream starts ?
scarlet moth
The stream is today?
south pier
in 35min
scarlet moth
Awesome Sauce! YES I'm on. Yahoo.
ruby swift
@fallen thistle @hard marlin Ashes has been billed as PVX. There will be no difference between the stats of "pve/pvp gear". Combat balance will be based off of group dynamics using a rock/paper/scissors method and will not be balanced for 1v1.
turbid egret
so based on what i heard in stream, and ik it's still live, but i figure here would be faster response. with the next creative director's letter, we'll have some dates with it?
ruby swift
@turbid egret they said there will be dates in the letter, just not what dates.
turbid egret
yea that's all i wanted to confirm was the fact that there were dates @ruby swift
thanks
cloud lance
!test
potent thunderBOT
turbid egret
ok now for the better question, when is the creative director's letter expected to be released? 😄
we need a date for the dates
woeful zephyr
light flax
The date will probably be when the next set of cosmetics is coming out 😂😂😂
turbid egret
don't you dare @light flax
keen rapids
why cant i login to play battle rotyale?
tulip hatch
servers are offline
keen rapids
ohww wok
tulip hatch
no testing is scheduled at this time
keep an eye on #news for any changes or updates
tulip hatch
The BR uses the backend systems for the mmo so to ensure that the rework they did is ready itll need to be tested again before moving on
gusty mountain
i don't think they have animations ready for abilities to test out the mmo judging from the stream
fluid scroll
!test
potent thunderBOT
tulip gale
!test
potent thunderBOT
analog turtle
Is Ashes of Creation battle royale playable yet? I had it from when they teased beta and didnt turned it on for 3 months or so
granite siren
Question how does war and pvp work, can i just kill anyone or do they need to be flagged for world pvp?
Are there siege battles in the open world or some instanced part
Having trouble signing up for this beta test today
tulip hatch
Theres a variety of things when it comes to pvp
Open world does require flagging to attack
There are also sieges that have a participation cap
Raiding caravans doesnt have penalties when attacking unlike unconsented pvp
There are fan made wikis that have compiled this information for you to read up on since theres a fair amount covered on it
granite siren
For the caravans lets say the raiders win does the human player who sent the caravan lose his stuf?
How do i get into this beta test today?
tulip hatch
Yes they lose their items if they fail to protect the caravan
There is no beta test today
Testing is currently unavailable
In the future when testing returns for the Apocalypse model all that is needed is an account
open sierra
Is the game will have , a good story telling like Elder Scrolls Online for example ?
tulip hatch
Well that will depend on the the folks working on the story but that is the plan. Too early to tell
open sierra
thnx!
If they did it FOR SURE will be a successful mmo ! i talk with many friends the only thing that mostly they like isthe story and how it`s represent 😃
unborn horizon
will it be fully voice overed?
small pecan
The game will actually have very limited voice overs due to the expense that comes with it. Ofc your characters will have battle grunts and such! But voice overs are reserved only for important, cinematic moments in the game. Not ordinary things like quests
unborn horizon
oof
i was hoping for an elder scrolls lvl of quest voice over if not even the ultimate swtor where even ur character speaks and have multiple dialogue choices like a real rpg
i hope they consider it after the game releases
this is the most hyped mmo and it will make them a lot of money after release
slow meadow
voice acting is almost never worth it out side of single player games and even then there are some interesting articles/videos from devs on the topic. The vast, vast majority of players don't listen to/read quest text in MMOs. Most quests outside of a handful of main story line, big even, or quirky side quests need voice acting in the first place. Most people don't care to have voice acting for someone letting them know 20 ore is needed to supply the Node with nails. I feel like most people would rather have even $5 million spent on additional content rather than voice acting let alone the number it takes to do a full MMO. Having voice acting in key areas/events would be about as much as I would expect and personally want for Ashes.
desert ivy
Yeah, the only MMORPG I've listened to voice overs for is SWTOR. ESO didn't keep my attention one bit, I just skipped all that shit when I did play. Really wouldn't be worth it for them to do it. Not even WoW is voiced over to a large degree.
quasi walrus
SWTOR for the win ❤ i would prefer more content over VA tbh
acoustic rune
voice acting and sandbox dont go well together, if at all
craggy pewter
i just noticed that all my 8 referals dont show anymore, i got 0 in this new site after forum update, i read in old posts that they have this info saved n will b updated later?
ruby swift
Yes, they have said the system is still broken and they are working on it. IF your referrals log on to their account in the meantime, they will appear on yours again.
craggy pewter
ah ok ty
o also, since im eu i have to use my.com, is there any diff if i buy a pack or cosmetics on the official site, will they carry over to mycom or when they game launches
i see my.com has their own store
ocean forum
when did the last shop updates come and when will the next ones come? I somehow lost track of that 
ruby swift
@craggy pewter They have said in the past that any purchases from the main site will indeed transfer over to my.com.
craggy pewter
then ill do that so that its on 2 accts at least
esp if i want name reservation pack 🤤
crystal beacon
when comes the next apocalypse?
empty fjord
not known, but this might be one of the dates they will reveal in the creative director's letter before mid July @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
ok thanks
empty fjord
emphasis on the might. we don't know what dates they were referring to
raven heath
if i had to guess then i'd say they will release dates for apoc/ castle sieges since they have been working on that and they had to push the date back for it. i don't see them telling us about alphas though!
empty fjord
nah, alphas will probably roll around when we've been doing horde mode for a while
tulip hatch
no factions its guild wars mainly
iron gorge
remote axle
Sometime between today and launch is my guess
ember sequoia
I can't find the package I bought long ago in the transection history as I logged in today. Should I be worried?
dark jungle
wait for about 24 hours from first login for the history to import
if it doesnt appear then raise a ticket
ember sequoia
I see.. thanks very much
granite siren
is intrepid stock sold to the public?
granite siren
Second question after that why open shop in california when your employees would have higher cost of living and it might impact the game
dark jungle
probably because there is a huge amount of developer talent in that area
final urchin
so whats the latest alpha out right if any?
and if not whats the status on when its predicted to be opened?
remote axle
@final urchin No testing out right now, and no dates on when they will return.
slow meadow
@final urchin also of note from the stream they said the Creative Director's Letter was being delayed until some time before mid July, but said it would contain dates. Most believe, myself included, that it will have the return of Apoc BR as one of the dates though what the others might be is more uncertain.
rigid steppe
whats the kickstarter thingy?
agile dirge
what version is online atm of the alpha/beta so i know what pack i can buy to access
tulip hatch
Currently no testing sessions in progress
Keep an eye on #news for any updates
Apocalypse will be the first session to return and that is free to play so you only need to register on the website @agile dirge
The first MMO alpha 1 has not begun yet but is also no longer sold.
The earliest MMO alpha you can purchase is alpha 2
open sierra
May be many people like me are waiting to see first alpha, and after that if i like the game will buy to play it for next alpha version 😛 ?
small pecan
That’s a decent strategy! Just need to be careful that a2 packs are still on sale by the time you purchase!
open sierra
i want to see 1-st alpha and if there a packages will buy it 😛
if not like we say for healthy 😃
plain shadow
I bought braver of worlds is there anything out that I can utilise yet?
scarlet moth
Hello @simple ether. Interested in parcing large guilds into one or two alliance skill based guilds? That is to say, take your best assassins and tanks, to knock off opponents, wheather assassins or kill off smaller groups?
I propose this will be interesting. That is, large guilds deciding weather or not it is advantageous to form skill based 'hit squads' proportional to their membership. Hence, IF I can fill four alliances with 300 each is superb. If I have 500 ... then one large and three small guilds to parse? I would weigh the membership - no shame.
@simple ether what say you?
turbid egret
i feel like there's something lost in translation @scarlet moth but is what you're trying to say, something along the lines of, large guilds might form small hit squads in order to use them during guild wars?
scarlet moth
Like me - you, are asking a multi-faceted question? Hard to follow.
I believe the PVP component is also in question. Kill the leaders opposed.
turbid egret
no, i'm not asking a question, i'm trying to clarify what you're saying
the way you phrased your question makes it hard to understand
scarlet moth
Hence, parse the PVP component, then say to Ashes - he or she was assainated by someone we don't know.
turbid egret
see, when you say parse, i'm thinking a raid dps parse. what do you mean by that? i think that would clarify a lot of things
then above the whole 500 members vs 300 members, parsing the guilds or what not
scarlet moth
It's targeting leaders ... sorry
So .... In a big picture it's using the membership most efficiently. I have 2000 members, I parse them into 300.
WalMart guilds are OK. But to me their sheepish.
Hence. let me go to question chat. Sorry.
turbid egret
ok, so you're saying if you have over max number of guild members, how will you split them up into smaller guilds according to skill level?
scarlet moth
Opps maybe general chat, got dyslexic for a moment.
sage gate
I heard there was an alpha server of somesort, free to play
is it true?
CD?
What will that be for?
Im new here, srry for all these questions
Oh okay
Thank you very much @simple ether
mighty flower
So I have been wondering about the dodging mechanic. I tried to find info on Ashes Wiki page and even went to the time stamped they have linked but it is still unclear. will dodge be like a active thing I control as in APOC or is it automatic like rng % dodge?
So its like in Apoc; i hit spacebar, dodge and it consume my stamina?
hmm sounds interesting, I can see how that would work. Since tab target is auto lock you would need that like rng auto dodge mechanic. Thanks for the clarification @simple ether
Yes i cant wait!! soonTM 😃
scarlet moth
Facts are facts as you tell Steven.
desert ivy
wot
crystal fjord
So if all weapons are supposed to be able to be used by all classes, will the ranger's abilities change to melee variants if a ranger equips a melee weapon?
crystal beacon
What are the classes
small pecan
There’re ranged and melee slots! 2 melee (so can dual-wield or sword and board) and one ranged
@crystal beacon, 8 archetypes. You pick an archetype as a primary and one as a secondary. So 64 total options!
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
Also, I’ve never heard Steven say abilities can change from ranged to melee depending on the weapon… I think you just use your ranged weapon for ranged attacks and vice versa
Ok, haha, news to me!
crystal fjord
Do we know if it is your primary or secondary class that will determine your utility skill?
proven arrow
primary for utility
crystal beacon
@small pecan what the heck that's stupid cool
small pecan
:D
crystal fjord
Thanks. I'm going to roll ranger first then I think. I just didn't want to have to be forced to use a bow.
small pecan
Yup! If you want to talk about it more, we can head to #aoc-discussion!
Lots of exciting possibilities!
proven arrow
classes won't be forced into using certain weapons however as mentioned by Jahlon, there will be many skills that can be only used when using specific weapons. But many can swap between ranged and melee.
crystal beacon
@small pecan can you DM me and blow up my ear with all the possibilities I heard about this game today
novel matrix
!test
potent thunderBOT
reef prawn
Any news on the new website? They talked about making it more than just drawings and vague 3 liners, any progress on that?
desert ivy
wispy locust
rustic relic
I was actually just playing Conquerors Blade with some guildees. (a My.com game)
the game is really not that bad.
my biggest complaint was the Launcher.
It forces you to Seed your download and share it. you can limit your outgoing bandwidth to 30 kbps, but you can't turn it off.
Also there was a bunch of stuff about the launcher sniffing your browser history too. seems really crappy.
teal junco
Any news about the cosmetics that were unpurchaseable due to website issues coming back? 😄
Still trying to give these guys my money. lol
tulip hatch
Theyre trying to make sure theres no more account issues on the website before bringing back the items that were up during those problems.
No ETA provided on their return
teal junco
Ok thanks.
crystal beacon
Reading class chart do I read the one in Y axis or X axis first? Vertical or horizontal line?
Which one is primary?
forest fiber
Do we have any info on customizing guildhalls
dark jungle
You can buy skins for them tho
Or should i say, you could buy skins during crowdfunding
proven arrow
@crystal beacon this chart is better
drowsy holly
Hey, @proven arrow do you have it in a better resolution?
proven arrow
Mmm ask @hidden crane
hidden crane
@drowsy holly
drowsy holly
Thanks!
crystal beacon
Yup can't wait to be a Shadow Disciple
hidden crane
Please do note, all colours are random selections and not indicative of actual class colours assigned by the devs.
desert ivy
Archwizard 
crystal beacon
I wonder if I can be Shadow Disciple. Using like heavy/medium armor with a spear or something. Thatd be cool
stark path
is there a release date yet?
desert ivy
Some dates will be coming in the first half of July, but they most likely just be release dates for Apoc and maybe Castle Siege
stark path
oh i see, tyvm :D
crystal beacon
What does Apoc stand for
vale turtle
Apocalypse
desert ivy
Apocalypse. It's basically a Battle Royale type game mode that they use to test both the game and backend features to try and detect problems that need fixing
dark jungle
soon™
golden parrot
Fr?
dark jungle
or more accurately wheneveritsready™ 😄
dark jungle
™
dark jungle
late®
sweet gulch
So i know this has been answered. I am more of playing the "devils advocate" here with legality.
when many people purchased their accounts, KS backers and whatnot, the owner of the game took a neutral stance on someone selling their account. They wouldnt support it, they wouldnt get it back if you got scammed. All that mess.
The new TOS is something that didnt exist then, and many bought them under the premise if they wanted, they could sell them later.
Now there is a TOS, specifically prohibiting this. However many of these people never agreed to this TOS.
So... legally, what remedy is there for those who never accepted that new TOS, who decided at some point they wanted to transfer their account. Is the IS stance at this point, that they can retroactively force someone into a contract that didnt exist when the purchase took place?
Most games that change their TOS, force people to agree to the updated version at next login. We dont have any such login as there isnt any version of the game currently playable.
golden parrot
Sue them
dark jungle
not a lawyer, but most terms of service dont even require you to click something, just use the service in question
sweet gulch
but noones using the service at that point
or at this point
😄
i mean a lawsuit is always an option
dark jungle
probably better to talk to a lawyer rather than ask a bunch of gamers on a discord
golden parrot
Get Tom Cruise @sweet gulch
sweet gulch
this was a question moreso for the IS employees 😄
golden parrot
@idle siren
sweet gulch
on their take, on the potential liability if this ever turned into a legit legal issue.
cause if they lost it, anyone who bought prior to the TOS, would potentially be able to adjoin it
golden parrot
Lawsuits cost more money then for an issue like this
sweet gulch
I have 5k sitting on this game lol, i couldnt sell it if i wanted to. Noone out there trying to spend that money :p
golden parrot
I would think
Literally go see Steven at the hq, he’s a cool guy and pretty responsive
Lol
sweet gulch
LOL if im ever on the west coast again
golden parrot
Or Skype him
sweet gulch
id prolly drop in to check it out
slow meadow
IANAL but my guess is that because the way KS is structured and the fact that project is expected to go through changes (TOS would be expected for a final product) that you would be able to be held to them. Even items that are promised on KS do not legally have to take the form that they are initially presented, and since anyone who has ever used software knows that a TOS would be involved at some point, I don't think one aspect of it not going the way you wanted (being able to sell an account) would entitle you to sue. though I think a reasonable argument could be made that maybe a refund was in order. I would speak with CS about that though.
sweet gulch
i dont pop in there too often, since my minions dont live there anymore
@slow meadow while possible, many bought multiple accts with the understanding via steven, they could sell them in the future
i wasnt that brazen, lol
but i know some who talked of it many times with regards to the 500$ acct
golden parrot
I talked about it
slow meadow
I understand that, and I could see there being an argument for a refund but I don't think the grounds are there to try and subvert the TOS. Project promises from KS to finished product change all the time and I doubt this would hold much water since it was verbal and not a line item part of the KS as well. Just IMO though. like I said. I am not a lawyer.
sweet gulch
now that could be an option
allowing those in before the TOS change, refund options
give an end date on when they gotta decide by, or be bound to the terms
verbal contracts still contracts 😄
golden parrot
Idk, Steven a cool guy, he be chill with it, just don’t get caught
Or his “professionalism” will deter him of such coolness
sweet gulch
lmao, im keepin mine. I sent friends money to get theirs, so they were all bought in their name when they got them
arctic sky
will there be a way to link accts through referral after the system is fixed?
sweet gulch
Im not sure, many of the ones that should have linked to mine, never did
doubt i will ever see the results of that
arctic sky
eh i have a friend just waiting to buy a pack for when they can use the referral system so its just annoying
golden parrot
Have him make a new account?
ruby swift
Same, cept it is more like 20 people.
sweet gulch
mine all have 500$ packs associated lol
golden parrot
I’m confused
sweet gulch
wont be any rebuying them
arctic sky
how would manking a new one help? he hasnt made one or bought the pack because referrals arent working
sweet gulch
if they didnt link to begin with, all you can do is submit a ticket and hope
golden parrot
Oh I see
ruby swift
Low priority for them to fix. The longer they let it go, the less money they have to account for and give up on a monthly basis. The people that sign up anyways during the "unplanned downtime" are people they never have to put into the system.
golden parrot
Ooof
ruby swift
Cosmetics options in the store sure as hell got fixed quick.
golden parrot
Lol
vale turtle
Are we allowed to use Ashes of Creation screenshots (of APOC), 2D models and other AoC-related pictures for the promotion of guilds? For example for headers et cetera.
stable plover
@vale turtle In general, yes - see https://ashesofcreation.com/terms for full details
vale turtle
Thank you
south pier
I cannot upgrade my pack to 'voyager', payment fails and Im sure its not because of me xD
red nebula
im sure i missed my answer somewhere but, what stage of development is AoC in right now? jw so i know which pack to buy 😃
tulip hatch
Pre alpha
The Apocalypse mode is free to play so you can try that out when it's servers go online
Apocalypse is limited to 3 game modes
Battle Royal
Castle Sieges
Horde mode
Following this Alpha 1 wil begin but those packages are no longer sold
hidden crane
red nebula
alright thank you so much!
reef prawn
It's sad that everything became TBA and/or removed after being launched... Someone said yesterday that we may have dates in mid-july, is that confirmed or just a guess?
perfect, thank you very much Jahlon. As usual, you're a champ
wild geyser
I bought the intrepid pack last year, and it does not show in my account :???
yes
i last logged in last wednesday
nope
has not
shoes nothing in inventory or history
k
oblique cedar
The videos that show the Ashes of Creation studio show the desks. Any idea what model/manufacture those are from? They look fantastic.
plucky pawn
@lyric tulip our white modular desks?
oblique cedar
Yeah!
plucky pawn
Not sure, I can crawl under mine and check! And @wild geyser - if you check your Inventory under the "Other" tab and still don't see your items listed after 48 hours, please go ahead and open a support ticket and then DM me the ticket #, as Jahlon suggested 😃
@oblique cedar looks like something called a Poppin, Series A?
oblique cedar
Second question. Does Intrepid have a standard machine they use for development, Apple, Dell? Or is it employee preference?
plucky pawn
@oblique cedar that looks right to me! and I don't think anyone here is running on a Mac...most of our rigs our custom built and pretty beefy
oblique cedar
Ahh, do you guys use a third party for custom built, or do you have a PC rig enthusiast among you?
plucky pawn
@oblique cedar we have several enthusiasts 😉
oblique cedar
👌 Thank you Ma'am.
slim cargo
so is there a release date yet? been waiting for a awhile to play the game for a bit now. not the royal....
velvet swan
Nope
upper dagger
a few days ago i saw that the servers are not online. on other pages i read that it is open beta right now. can we actually try the game right now?
velvet swan
Nope
hidden crane
@west pumice
west pumice
is the class predator or scout like a ninja or something?
hidden crane
We currently have minimal information on the classes.
They're planning on sharing more details on them as we move along development, so expect news blogs soon™
west pumice
nice looking forward to it
1 more question for the classes are there subclasses confirmed on being with the classes or is it just the classes on that list
hidden crane
Fighter, Tank, Rogue, etc are archetypes. Combining two archetypes results in a class.
ruby swift
8 archetypes x 8 secondary classes...64 not enough?
hidden crane
However keep in mind that picking the secondary archetype/sub archetype only augments the skills of the primary archetype.
ruby swift
And Tank/Tank makes a more tanky Tank.
west pumice
just asking if there are subclasses you can switch during the game in wich you dont have to recreate a character from zero again
hidden crane
I'd recommend reading through this to attain a better understanding of how the system works: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes
You can swap your secondary archetype for a cost is all we know currently.
ruby swift
ahh, sub class can be swapped through an expensive and painful system promised
not on the fly
west pumice
ah ok nice but level isnt gonna be afected or ist it or you dont know yet
desert ivy
Your primary class is most likely gonna dictate your level, so swapping secondary class won't affect it
ruby swift
They have never confirmed whether you retain levels from swaps or start anew each time
west pumice
ah
ruby swift
talking about secondary
So if you run up the augments in your secondary mage, then swap to rogue, decide you dont like it and go back to mage, nobody has confirmed whether you will need to earn the mage augments again.
west pumice
i don't think they'll be that cruell you'll probably just retain the level you had with that combo
crystal beacon
Will there be Armored Orangutans to fight?
ruby swift
Was asked and they said no decision had been made. That was last year, so maybe they have since
We have various pets with barding and armor, so if we get Orangutans....sure.
crystal beacon
Imagine an Armored Orangutan as a mount
solar ore
When is beta 2?
tulip hatch
No ETA currently for beta 2 but its still a ways away since we havent reached Alpha 1 yet.
tulip hatch
We'll be getting more information this month in the creative directors letter but at this time no dates have been provided.
granite sun
Will a rx-570 graphics card work for AoC?
plucky pawn
@granite sun You should be set with that, since it's newer/more powerful than the Radeon 6870 HD called out in the min spec for Apocalypse at the moment: https://ashesofcreation.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016315813-What-are-the-minimum-system-requirements-
granite sun
Thanks👌
narrow blaze
This might have been asked before and I apologise in advance! But, are there any female playable character models yet? I've only been able to see male ones from previews.
rigid monolith
One of their first videos with a mage has a female model. All pre-alpha footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHTWhIF5cqI
small pecan
And Apocalypse has a playable female human model too!
potent summit
@hidden crane game when
fleet nacelle
why the fuck is i7 recommendet i got i5 its okey to and 1050ti nvidia maybe i will buy soon rx 590 or 580 amd better than nvida
so i5 is not okey
its okey i know
but i7 i thougt you use that for editing
videos
ok
Boy: you can marriage in aoc, but when you have a female character and you marry a male character you GAY
marry
willow warren
how do you buy cosmetics as addons? do you just buy the packs as normal, and the system adds them to your previous pack?
plucky pawn
@willow warren if you already have a pack from a previous month, first log into your account on the Shop and you'll see the individual items available for purchase instead!
you may only be seeing the bundles because you're not logged in, so it doesn't recognize what upgrades/addons to show you 😃
willow warren
am logged in. registered as kickstarter backer. so...curious, then.
tight gale
Do you see the addons section @willow warren ?
willow warren
aye. got some in my cart. just waiting for the inspiration to hit 'pay'. :P
empty fjord
why do I have to pay a fee to pay with xsolla? and I have money on my pay pal account, but when paying on the ashesofcreation shop I can't use that money, I can only attach a card, which for other reasons atm is impossible.
fading latch
@empty fjord Xsolla is in the process of being phased out. Save your funds for now till Paypal is implemented
empty fjord
@fading latch I had to purchase a cosmetic before it went away. Can't wait with these things because of xsolla...
crystal flax
11am Pacific
regal oak
💰 💰 💰 all for AoC!
crystal beacon
Does anyone have an idea about what the Combination Mage/Fighter, resulting in Battlemage will bring forth🤔
crystal beacon
haha
regal oak
!test
potent thunderBOT
small pecan
@crystal beacon, we don’t have much info on how any class will work yet! Just some examples of what to expect, and a bit of info on Rogue-Ranger that might be out of date at this point
sudden wharf
pls someone help me to fix this 'ashes of creation beta credentials not active yet' . anyone have any ideas
potent thunderBOT
polar hollow
wait open beta 2 is out?
vale turtle
The servers are not online. No dates have been given, though we expect (it's not a given) dates in the upcoming letter
stable plover
Note that APOC is in beta, not the MMO which is still pre-alpha
oblique cedar
Ahh! I need help! I am trying to purchase the June pack on the website and both the credit card and paypal is failing!
Before it switches over 😦
Even Paypal?
silent lantern
Which sucks donkey
oblique cedar
silent lantern
Haha, well, the browser got that right at least 😂
oblique cedar
I used the bruteforce method and it worked. I am very hesitant to contact their support (Tsolla) Heh.
oblique cedar
Xsolla can go the way of the dodo. But thank you for helping :D
Consider it resolved.
silent lantern
Can you imagine? Getting a Nike add while you try to buy something.. disgusting 😁
granite moon
would love a status progress on alpha 2?
stable plover
@granite moon It's been delayed from it's original timeline by 'months'. A1 still hasn't started and probably won't start until we at least go through the APOC testing modes. We're supposed to be getting timeline updates in the first half of this month.
fluid scroll
!test
potent thunderBOT
silent lantern
I wonder why people keep checking the server status.. They've been off for 4 months now
desert ivy
Because 1 day, someone will do it, and it will finally say "The servers are currently up"... and everyone will rejoice
potent thunderBOT
clever shuttle
I'm having issues with a purchase I made on the store. Anyone I can talk to about this. I've tried calling the store and they won't return my calls
proven arrow
don't call, send a ticket
dark jungle
!cs
potent thunderBOT
crystal beacon
how long take it to move from the underworld to verra?
because of the open world ?
proven arrow
think of it like walking into a cave irl
there will be various methods to reach the underrealm
you could fall into a well and find a secret passage, or just wander into a cave
crystal beacon
ah but it is a good idea when you start as a Tulnar?
proven arrow
there will be many many entrances to the underrealm
crystal beacon
ok thanks^^
proven arrow
spreading across the entire world
look up hollow earth theory for some ideas
same concept
crystal beacon
i hope they let us play the classes and races
so that we can try more, as in apocalypse
west meteor
The apocalypse suite (BR, castle siege, horde) will not have the classes like the mmorpg will have. siege will have some classes, but not classes that are in the mmorpg
crystal beacon
i know^^
drowsy apex
are the beta servers open right now?
potent thunderBOT
regal oak
what does Cinderhorn Steer do?
regal oak
oooo
crystal beacon
slaps donkey donkey said stop :(
scarlet moth
Question - IF you have different races in your small skill based guild - will they arrive in Verra at certain gates? Can you see the dilemma if so?
turbid egret
developer letter when? 😍
proven arrow
mid next month
turbid egret
sorta meant as a joke, but appreciate actual answer xd
proven arrow
errr this month
turbid egret
just hyped
proven arrow
its already next month i forgot
proven arrow
hehe i could have heard wrong but i rarely mistake dates for ashes content
pseudo hull
hey
quick question!
Are the items in the store not available anymore? In regards to the lanyards, hoodies, shirt etc ?>
proven arrow
yes they will return at a later date unfortunately
pseudo hull
damn it...freezing cold atm and thought that the hoodie would be perfect
open sierra
As soon as new apocalypse comes out, will include the castle siege mode ?
acoustic rune
So i own an advanced pack and the new cosmetics are up. Do I get the new cosmetics as a part of previous purchase or do I have to find a place where to buy them separately? Because mail ru's site only states "you own this pack already" under the new stuff.
silent lantern
the cosmetics should be sold separately from the pack if you already have purchased one
acoustic rune
where tho?
tulip hatch
You're using my.coms site right?
I honestly don't know how their stuff works
Have to ask their mods probably for assistance
I'll inquire to toast when shes in office too
acoustic rune
nah im using mail ru
i think that purchasing of new items is unavailable yet. Tho I asked at russian resources and got no luck, while mail ru tech support on aoc simply does not have any way to leave a ticket.
crystal beacon
As soon as new apocalypse comes out, will include the castle siege mode ?
@open sierra no. just br first.
[MargaretKrohn] "Castle Siege would not be included when APOC testing starts up again" https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/bqym4i/is_this_game_still_happening/eofwc89/
open sierra
thanks!
fluid scroll
@acoustic rune if it works like here in USA you have to be signed into your account and then shop. Hope this might help.
acoustic rune
there seem to be no shop tab (yet?)
acoustic rune
nah im not going to pay another pile of dolands just to see if shop tab with cosmetics is there
crystal beacon
!test
potent thunderBOT
potent thunderBOT
vital rivet
Anything special on July 4th? Margaret posted in twitter
terse wind
I saw on a video from 2017 about discord getting incorporated into the game, is that still happening? Would be a pretty cool feature.
slow meadow
not sure about discord integration, but there was voice chat being built into the game that was tested during the BR. Beyond that administrative tools for only allowing certain members to speak in larger groups to help with coordination have been discussed as part of how they plan to handle siege and large raid content. so each group within a raid may only be able to hear their leader while the leaders would also be able to hear each other.
vale turtle
I don't think they have separated from the idea of Discord integration yet.
terse wind
Awesome! I missed out on apoc cuz i was not paying attention :p
craggy pewter
have they answered player trading, how to battle RMT, can u trade valuable currency from player to player?
dark jungle
yeah
player trading yes, rmt they will use a software solution, currency trading probably same as other trading
more here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Economy
pliant plinth
Any chance of having ETH added as a payment option on the site? Cant be asked to swap to btc right now x)
fallow fog
That should be up to Xsolla.
Nothing Intrepid can change about, unless they change provider.
crystal beacon
I wonder when we're going to get to see the character creation.. 
quartz coral
I’ll be excited 😆 when we do @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
Indeed
regal oak
Can you allow cosmetics to be gifted?
crystal beacon
@simple ether wouldn't they just be able to do that via PayPal without gifting anyways?
@simple ether also you can just give a friend money via PayPal to buy it himself. Though I think it's the same thing. I dont think it makes it easier. Just because there are two ways to do something it doesnt make it easier to do that thing. It's just another option
If I go to a store and I choose between wheat and white bread it doesnt make getting bread any easier, if you get my analogy
The other analogy I feel wouldn't fit which would be whether to use fertilizer or not use fertilizer to make your crops grow.
I just dont think having multiple ways to cheat makes cheating easier per say. If anything it's going to be up to how the trading system works
There can be a system allowing only to receive and send gifts a set number of times within a time frame
Making the RMT via that method negligible, and allowing content creators to do give aways :D
That doesnt make sense, that's just saying the whole piece of bread needs to be there or no one can eat it at all.
That's not really fair, I think the method I offered on the table is a fair and moderate compromise
Account can have a time limit it has to be in game before gifting and trading...
rigid rose
Not going to happen.
crystal beacon
@simple ether I dont think trading should be in but you mentioned a wooden sword for 1,000,000
Gifting a cosmetic, I just fail to see the danger in that. When related to P2W or RMT
Okay I'll scruffy on over there
surreal elk
They have already come out and said gifting cosmetics wont be in the game for all of the reasons jahlon has mentioned however people find ways to by pass it, like gifting money on pay pal, intrepid is trying to limit the options for RMT. This decision by intrepid does that.
storm herald
Is there actually no trading allowed in the game? I understand it creates RMT environment but I hated that feature in BDO really does kill off a MMO aspect that makes MMO well MMOs
surreal elk
Trading for cosmetics etc, Normal trading will be in the game. The above message was referring to gifting other players cosmetics from the store which intrepid has decided not allow.@storm herald
storm herald
oh ok good thank u
true delta
when is the newsletter arriving?
stable plover
@true delta The July creative directors letter is expected in the first half of July - Which is the letter that will contain some dates
true delta
ah i see, i was wrong in my info thanks a lot
regal oak
Gifting cosmetics is okay before mmo release via web i thnk its good makes money for the game.
Once game release remove it
Whats thebpoint
I logged on my friends account to pay for their cosmetic
When i could have gifted
Game is not released whats the fuss about gifting.
acoustic rune
new cosmetics are unavailable at mail ru
will it be possible to buy the cosmetics from previous packs, post preorder pack purchase?
acoustic rune
its been hanging there since yesterday
scarlet moth
As a skill (tradeskill) is Animal Husbandry under Hunting or something else? Or is it like gathering and capturing? Are we processing a captured animal as example? I presume fishing is under Hunting. Gracias.
stable plover
Animal Husbandry is a processing profession, but in this case 'processing' is more 'breeding' and not 'butchering'
scarlet moth
Very nice. Thank you for the clarification.
orchid saffron
Are we trending toward seafaring? What happened to overland caravans?
tulip hatch
both are intended features in the mmorpg
acoustic rune
Will there be an option to custom name (created) weapons?
proven arrow
Unique crafted weapons will be a thing. However whether we can custom name them is still not 100% confirmed as there could be...... abuse..... I'd imagine its more likely we'll just see player's names on the weapon.
quasi knoll
Is the game still currently fully funded?
acoustic rune
"Each skill in the primary tree has a minimum of four augment choices from the secondary tree"
Does that mean that there suppose to be a choice for every base skill to be augmented in at least 4 way per subclass?
empty fjord
does sound like that
acoustic rune
sounds too good to be true, but multiple choices is a very good thing regardless
empty fjord
I'm sure a whole room of calculating smartheads are scratching their heads making every augment as we speak
potent thunderBOT
pallid horizon
Anyone know when will the litter be out?
vale turtle
No dates until further notice
novel matrix
Any news about apoc/aoc?
vale turtle
No dates until further notice.
We are hoping we are going to get new information in the upcoming Letter, this half of July
acoustic rune
How will shields work for non-tank classes?
hidden crane
It is currently unknown. What we do know is that shields provide stats and can be equipped by any class. However a ranger equipping a shield will obviously not be able to use certain skills that require a 2H Bow etc.
Recommend reading: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Shields
and: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Skills
silent lantern
@hidden crane 1h bows confirmed? 🤔 🤔
past cloud
Maybe he means those heavy bows which you need to mount on ground while shooting? : o
wide aurora
I thought ranged weapons would have their own slot separate from your melee weapons situation
proven arrow
Think more like, you get 3 weapon slots to mix and match whatever weapons match your preferred build.
craggy pewter
I see the kickstarter rewards gave name reservation (or maybe i misread it with guild name reserv), if so, were they allowed to register earlier than those who buy the 300+ dollar bundle with name reserv? Im hoping all have equal chance and can reg at the same time somewhere in the future
tulip hatch
Kickstarter has both guild and name reservation
Name reservation does work in tiers
KS backers highest to lowest > Summer backers > store backers
craggy pewter
Ah okay, so that means if i wanted to buy the most expensive pack solely for the name reserv then its little use if i wanted a highly popular sought for name (since likely thousands are infront of me in the line)
Thanks
fading latch
@craggy pewter Essentially yes. If you believe your name is uniqie enough where itll be rare anyone else has it, buying the pack purely for name reservation is pointless.
quasi knoll
Will NPCs despawn and quests immediately cease to be available from them (even if they're currently in progress) following a successful siege of a node?
fluid scroll
@quasi knoll good question. Should post it in forums and also save for next round of Q&A in a Live Stream. My personal opinion is they will cease to be available until node again reaches certain qualifications; as for quests in progress depends if the "turn in" is automatic, has to be the same NPC, or it might be that it's another NPC elsewhere that you need that might still be up.
hidden crane
@quasi knoll Certain features/systems will be available for a short term after a siege (A few hours - set to change during development)
Those are the best quotes we currently have that relate closely to your question
quasi knoll
Thanks Shaze. I don't think it really answers my question, but I appreciate your efforts!
slow meadow
@quasi knoll nothing is 100% set in stone yet but based on what Shaze provided I think you get a pretty good idea. They want the losing side of a siege to feel like they lost and even if they don't fully lose, can lose access to services provided by NPCs so I think you can safely assume this would include quests as well. It would be extra incentive for those doing PvE quests they have been working on to rally back at the node to defend it.
quasi knoll
Can you prevent people from joining a node?
waxen gyro
Will there be any really rare items that are unique in the sense that there is only one that exists per server? Sorry if this question has already been asked or if Intrepid already gave the answer.
slow meadow
@waxen gyro "The fact there is only one of them... or very very few of them depending on what it is. I think that in and of itself is a balance component right and you need to make sure that the players who are striving for those legendary things and who are devoting the time energy, resources in order to achieve them are accurately rewarded... We do not intend on having legendary items that are temporary" - Steven
tulip hatch
@quasi knoll No anyone can join a node there are no restrictions in the system
Maybe players could apply pressure to those who move in but other than that no
slow meadow
to add to that, you can only be a citizen of one node at a time including with alts, so there is pros and cons to doing so. Beyond that they have talked about having a cooldown on pledging citizenship so you can't bounce between easily as well.
quasi knoll
@tulip hatch So there is no such thing as a "full" node and a mayor has no ability to set exclusion policies?
This makes me ask my follow-up question: what prevents a hostile group of players from flooding a node via changing all of their citizenships there?
I'm aware of the cooldown mechanic. I'd like to see a rough number on it, personally.
tulip hatch
You can limit housing for example dont make apartments so less people can have a home there
proven arrow
Didn't they say something about not being able to flag on your node allies or something along those lines?
or penalties for attacking your node allies?
slow meadow
So there is a full node from a citizen standpoint. player housing grants the ability to claim citizenship, and the mayor controls how many apartments are built as the node grows versus other buildings that might provide services so the pop cap will vary between nodes.
quasi knoll
Okay. So, if you can't have a home in the node, you cannot be a citizen of it?
tulip hatch
That is currently how citizenship is planned yes
but the usual disclaimer - subject to change
slow meadow
you have to have a citizen ticket, and they are limited based on available housing. both in game world and "apartment" or instanced housing.
and the mayor has some control over that number
tulip hatch
player housing is the normal way they are considering citizenship tickets as an alternative but all this will be determined with testing!
quasi knoll
At this stage in development, I feel like they must have some of the decision points of this system set in stone lol. I appreciate the insight though
slow meadow
yeah I don't always clarify but, my answers are based on currently available public info. Its still pre alpha so its possible things will look much different down the road. many of these systems are still barely more than fleshed out concepts at this point.
turbid egret
just for clarification, the letter is supposed to come out before mid july, correct?
small pecan
July 15th or earlier!
small pecan
Well, the official quote is “CD letter will be in the first half of July”—so assumably meaning up to July 15th or 16th, haha
turbid egret
yea, first half, i'm taking it literally
vale turtle
I hope we won't have alternate facts 
turbid egret
the 15th at noon. 31 days in july, 15.5 is perfect half
crystal beacon
Hello
Can there also be a fps mode
When will beta come out
Didn't they keep changing schedules?
dark jungle
apoc beta is out now although the servers have been offline for a few months
the mmo isnt in alpha yet, expecting some dates next weekish
dark jungle
🙇
crystal beacon
turbid egret
DATES
slow meadow
@crystal beacon @dark jungle Apoc is not fps. It is third person action. Below is the response from steven about first person from the wiki.
dark jungle
thats a quote about the mmo
slow meadow
correct but even apoc is a third person action game, not first person shooter style. just want to make sure spiratis has the right understanding
slow meadow
yep easy to do with action based games especially with the bows which work a bit between third person and semi first person. just wanted to clarify.
plucky hatch
Hey so question about the MMO, is there any updates or have we seen real game play? I know they want to test the servers with APOC but thats all I have seen. And with the state of all games these dates I have a lot of doubts, but hopes, for this game neing the next long term game that just not myself but others play. Thank you for any anwsers.
small pecan
We have a massive update coming in the first half of July called the Creative Director’s letter! In the meantime, we have not had a playable version of the game since early February. The game was months already of release schedule before suffering the big set back. It’s still in pretty decent shape!
plucky hatch
The MMO or APOC?
small pecan
The CD letter will basically update us heavily on the current state of the game’s development (and may provide some nifty dates). The last playable version was Apoc. Alpha 0 (playable MMO) has been gone for a while now
craggy pewter
@small pecan what big setback r u refering to?
small pecan
They had to rework their server code because performance was bad with 100 players in the BR. That’s why Apocalypse isn’t playable currently
But they’ve still been developing the MMO in the background! The whole project didn’t get ground to a halt because of it. Just us playing Apoc did
neon sable
Hey guys, been out of country for a while, just wondering if there has been word on when the actual mmo will be playable, not the BR
turbid egret
@neon sable the creative director's letter is expected to be out before mid july which is rumored to contain dates for potential releases
neon sable
Sweet, look forward to it. Thanks
abstract inlet
All i see on news is customs and and cosmetics things to sell but nothing regarding release?
quasi knoll
@abstract inlet They needed to rebuild the backend of the game extensively, but production has not been stopped and they have (in fact) increased the number of employees working on it. I'd check back in at the end of this week for the CD letter and I think we'll have some good information moving forward.
wild phoenix
I worder how long soon is?
quasi knoll
@wild phoenix I don't think it'd be unreasonable to expect proper alpha testing in this quarter.
acoustic rune
Im sure I remember them saying that alpha will be out only when game looks presentable enough not to leave wrong impressions, so i wouldn't expect it earlier than sieges
vale turtle
mhm
slow meadow
Its likely that Alpha 1 will need the completion of all three phases of Apoc to be in a state that is "presentable". BR, was to get server code and first pass on action combat presentable, Castle Siege is to work on group PvP, objective PvP and the start of class kits, and finally Horde mode is to work on monster AI. All of them will need to be put in the players hand and iterated on to make sure the most egregious issues are ironed out. Especially because Steven said that Alpha 1 of the MMO is going to be what people judge Ashes to be at launch so they need a certain level of polish on those core systems. Could be completely off but IMO this makes the most sense based of their recent statements.
thorn grove
What is this letter everyone keeps talking about?
hidden crane
@thorn grove The letter is the Creative Director's letter written by Steven to provide a large update on the status of the game etc.
The one due this week is meant to contain dates.
drowsy apex
!test
potent thunderBOT
terse wind
Will playing ashes with a video game controller be against the Terms & Conditions? I know it is for some MMORPG's.
proven arrow
Nope, as long as you aren't doing anything that breaks the game.
terse wind
Yay! That makes me happy.
fallow epoch
will Ashes of creation have voice chat?
slow meadow
yes. it is built into the game. And there will be enough administrative features to help facilitate larger group play like castle sieges. Allowing leaders/groups/and between group communication to be controlled
fallow epoch
Nice
proven arrow
Currently the plan is an in-game incorporation of discord iirc.
sour hinge
Hello i‘d like to ask a question about class Design:
The amount of spells/attacks the classes learn, is there a direction already set by the aoc Team? Meaning will you have only a couple skills Or will you have a big spellbook?
crystal fjord
Healthy sized, but will we be able to use them all at will or only choose a certain amount at a time and have to change skills out?
small pecan
Certain amount at a time!
crystal fjord
Okay. Next question, I know stealth is a rogue skill, but will all classes be able to sneak in some fashion?
Ambushing caravans, waylaying gatherers, avoiding conflict, etc might be a lot harder without such a feature.
slow meadow
IMO, its unlikely that other base classes will have access to something like stealth unless their secondary is rogue, but at this point there is basically zero class information so take that with a grain of salt. You also don't need stealth to do those things. Unlike other games you can't just teleport out or instantly get away. Some of the best resources are going to be very far from large hubs so you have time to catch them there and on their way back.
crystal fjord
Right so being a gatherer will be super risky. Maybe they'll add something like hide in bushes like in League of Legends? Or hide only if you're standing still or something. Realistically anyone can hide, just some people are bad at it. This game is really going to change my play style.
Thanks for the answers!
vale turtle
I hope that a floating name above my head won't give me away when I am hiding (no stealth skill)
crystal fjord
Exactly
runic ember
I’d love to have no or minimal target assistance, nameplates and glowing player outlines and such
It’d really push strategic camouflage in gear and positioning
slow meadow
Since tab targeting is a thing, you can make it so that by default nameplates and such don't come up but just spamming tab as you are running around will negate that.
runic ember
It could be that until a PC is in combat with another, it doesn’t allow tab targeting on non combatants
Basically until they enter the PvP area around the caravan, PCs wouldn’t be tab-able so to speak
slow meadow
what about open world? are you saying I have to use a non tab targeted skill top open combat? how do I initiate combat as a player who prefers tab targeting?
runic ember
Afaik every skill will be able to be action targeted, so if you can see a player you can use abilities on them
quasi knoll
How many castles can there be in the world at one time? Are castles always in the same place across every server?
runic ember
Interesting, still, it’d be difficult to have ambushes when spamming tab reveals PCs out of LoS
quasi knoll
How does that system interplay with the whole ideal of metropolis' and vassal nodes? 🤔
What do kings/queens do? How are they chosen?
Okay. So castles are just kind of bragging points for guilds, then, if I'm understanding correctly? Or do they serve to influence the world around them significantly?
slow meadow
also one of the few ways to get access to a flying mount
quasi knoll
Thanks Jahlon
balmy adder
Hi, I'm not sure if anyone asked already that question, but do you think we could pay to have our own server? Since the world will be ever changing, but if your friend and yourself are simply casual player and don't want to miss too much thing, it could be a nice option to add no?
desert ivy
That is almost certainly not gonna be an option.
balmy adder
Yeah I thought so
fading latch
Unless you have about $10k+
desert ivy
I can't think of a single MMORPG ever that has done that
just seems really impractical
desert ivy
Also kinda defeats the point of an MMORPG
fading latch
Its not like Ark where it's 60 people
You're talking thousands
Not cheap
No one would pay to rent a private server as it would cost 100s if not thousands of dollars
slow meadow
nah, one EC2 instance at 100% utilization from AWS is only like $250 a month. I'm sure they need a bit more horse power for a single server but its definitely low thousands per month. Keep in mind that $250 isn't even contract pricing. That can go down to pretty close to $100 a month per server instance.
plucky furnace
Hey guys i have some questions regarding the 75$ bundle. if i buy that will i get access when servers are back up? or only beta.
how do i get access to the alpha phase? or did it pass already.
runic ember
the $75 pack is for the Beta 2, most close to full release and waiting the longest for. The one above that is for Beta 1 and Beta 2, the two test phases closest to release
Alpha 2 hasn't happened yet, and APOC is open beta, but currently not up
plucky furnace
so what do i need to purchase in order to get into the open beta and alpha 2?
and is apoc? the BR? are they actually sticking with that?
desert ivy
There is no open beta. Apoc will be available to everyone when it comes back up
plucky furnace
ohh ok is APOC gonna stay in the game.
desert ivy
Apoc is to test basic mechanics and to make sure their network is working correctly. The reason it isn't up atm is because they're reworking their system from scratch
plucky furnace
ohhhh ok! cool and they will be releasing a letter soon? telling us dates correct?
desert ivy
Some dates. We don't know exactly what for, but most likely when apoc is coming back and maybe castle siege date as well.
But we're not sure.
Letter is due sometime this week
plucky furnace
awesome ! thanks for the help bud.
regal oak
!test
potent thunderBOT
tardy abyss
anyone know if we will be able to change our account names in the future ?
vale turtle
All I know is that they are working on it.
hidden crane
@fallow epoch The letter will be shared in the discord #news channel, sent out via e-mail, the news section of the main AoC website and their social media
(Just like last time)
fallow epoch
Thank u 😃
hidden crane
The previous letter can be found here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2019-03-07-creative-directors-letter
fallow epoch
thanks, i will look into that
pure tartan
hello! i am new here... well i have a question... i looking for the opening date at the game but i cant find it.. when it will start?
worn wagon
There is no exact release date, but we will probably get some dates this month ( )
Not sure if the release date is one of them
pure tartan
ahh and like when the server is opening each day? cuz i saw they close it every day
worn wagon
That was a testing phase (a BR mode NOT the MMORPG). It's planned to open them 24/7 - maybe these dates will give us some new informations when thats about to happen.
arctic sky
Dates come in first half of this month
lament wing
is there somewhere to view the server status?
dark jungle
lament wing
😅
potent thunderBOT
lament wing
good to know!
rustic geyser
Will dual wield be a thing?
hidden crane
Yes, you can dual wield certain weapons.
turbid egret
7 days and counting down. will we get dates sooner? find out next time on director's letter when?
vale turtle
crystal beacon
Soon tm
crystal beacon
Dates of the announcement of the dates coming soon.
vast umbra
Is Apocalypse not a thing anymore? I can't seem to log in.
I'm a Warrior of Old?
What does that mean? lol
torn token
It's accurate
vast umbra
The dates when they announce when we can play again?
torn token
The non comical tldr. This month we're getting a letter (soon) that will have some "dates" in it. We assume it will be some apoc dates but have to wait to find out
vast umbra
I thought Warrior of Old got early access, only reason I was asking.
Copy that
Just to put my mind at ease, they're still focusing on the mmo right? They didn't switch course and go Full-Apoc mode? Ive had friends worry
I havent kept up with the game since like the first apoc sessions
torn token
You'll get access to whatever that package provides. Be it alpha/beta etc.
It's still just a testing ground. They have to pull the reins back and make some major adjustments. (so they say). That's why we haven't had access to anything for awhile.
But yes they're making an MMO. And as far as we know that is and will always be the main priority with any testing data apoc provides.
vast umbra
I should have access to alpha phase 2.
Has that passed?
Also thanks for the quick replies
also is that only for the mmo or does alpha phase 1 count for the apoc too?
vast umbra
Thanks bud
rigid rose
Keep a eye on news channel here for upcoming news and dates for testing.
fluid scroll
!test
potent thunderBOT
charred rover
Hello. I have a question, does any one knows if quests and so on will be fully voice acted in this game?
dark jungle
They are not planning to voice act quests for the initial release but may add it later
charred rover
That's sad :/ thank you for the answer tho
desert ivy
Voice acting is expensive af
oblique cedar
How to I change my contact email for Ashes?
turbid egret
6 days and counting down. will we get dates sooner? find out next time on director's letter when?
tulip hatch
@oblique cedar If youre using the intrepid site then you go to your profile and change the email then resend verification
turbid egret
@simple ether i'm using 15 as my middle day, so i've been counting down to then
gotta keep updating people
15.5 is accurate
i'm counting the 15th at noon
😃
but i guess technically since first half of july, by the 16th they're officially late
day starts at midnight, so noon on 15th is 15.5 days in
weird date math
ok, i did notepad math where you take dates off each end. the 16th itself is the middle ground, so midnight on the 15th / 12:01 am on the 16th
by that point, then they are late
brave berry
how do I get on to play ashes of creation apocalypse?
turbid egret
gotta wait @brave berry they'll update in #web-maintenance or !test
hopefully
ok, i said screw day counting, we're doing it by hours. 24hrs in a day * 31days = 744hrs. /2 = 372hrs into the month. /24 to get days into month = 15.5. so it depends, do we count as it 15.5 days after one day into the month, or 15.5 days since the very beginning of the month