So they post information in news. Essentially it was open beta back in December and they said it would release soon. Then they did test on weekends, then it was every other week, then they said March release, and now they haven’t said anything. There...caught up
#questions
mystic raptor
true jewel
そうですか、Thank you for the update guys! I really hope apocolypse gets back up again, it was my only window into the game and its hard keeping the hype up for years at a time xD
mystic raptor
I agree...I agree
true jewel
Another question, in the member section of the roster, there is a ton of names that come after brackets. Using context clues and gamer knowledge, I assume this is the guild that these people belong to, but how is it possible to have that volume of players in a guild before the game has come out yet? Is there a place to search for a launch party that I don't know about?
[Nexus] [Mythic] [IMP] [HoU] [Envy] [DCN] [CM] and [Amnesty] to name a few
tulip hatch
Guilds/communities from previous games gather as well as new guilds forming for Ashes of Creation either recruit from other games they play together or gather fellow community members from the regulars that chat here.
They also have recruitment posts in #aoc-guild-recruitment and on the forums to reach out to more individuals looking for a guild.
proven arrow
There are guilds for pretty much every region so check that channel alluring posted for something that matches your needs.
raven gull
hey, im new, downloaded the launcher some hours ago and still be getting this message... Is there like certain time required until your account is approved so you can launch the game?
hidden crane
@raven gull Servers have been down since Feb 7th.
hidden crane
No ETA.
raven gull
when you're like ill move on to smth new from gw2 and then you get 💣
full hollow
any date for alpha 1?
stable plover
@full hollow There's not currently a date for A1.
full hollow
and an approximate date?
stable plover
@full hollow 'Months' after Q2
full hollow
Q2 starts on april, right?
steady quarry
i🙃 just want to start play this game
stable plover
@full hollow correct, so later than June, but we don't really know how much later
full hollow
okay... tnx ❤
empty fjord
When is the interview with Steven today?
empty fjord
so, is that in 30 minutes, or 1h30 minutes?
stable plover
1h 30m
empty fjord
many thanks!
stoic bay
for affiliation, will you be able to be a outcast(like a bandit) and not be a citezen of a node?
ok thanks
untold schooner
@simple ether Has the roll for loot after boss fights and bidding for loot still in the game?
I'm talking about gear also and not only crafting mats.
hard marlin
a social democratic well regulated capitalist loot system 🤔 I like this
I could get on board with that
untold schooner
I don't know if im a huge fan of round robin or need for greed, i would prefer to be able to trade what we ALL loot amongst each other only in the raid group for an hour
hard marlin
What about both options
untold schooner
sure, but ESO has a system where we all get to loot different gear from a boss and if we dont get the ones we need we can ask to trade among party members
for a limited time
hard marlin
I would discuss more but this is the questions section
tulip hatch
There will be some but they are intended to be rare
barren girder
^ follow up, can they drop from corrupted players?
tulip hatch
If bound items can drop from corrupted players?
barren girder
Yeah
If I have a sword of slays-all-named-steve that's bound on equip, and I go slaying steves, could I potentially lose it?
tulip hatch
Well that isnt really clarified so I cant answer that with absolute certainty
One can assume it will drop but that doesnt mean it can be equipped by anyone else
Should ask that for the next Q&A dev livestream
barren girder
Hmm hadn't thought about it still being bound even after dropping... That would kill the exploit I had thought up :p
untold schooner
I wonder if the stock exchange is only for economic nodes
barren girder
I'm a fan of your avatar Demonhunter -.-
untold schooner
how bout this ..
tulip hatch
Alright you can move the idle chit chat to #general-discussion 😄
silk acorn
Hello, I have a question regarding the installation process of the intrepid studios launcher. When I choose a location for the files and the setup wizard attempts to install the launcher, it gets stuck on "Extracting files from archive". Does anyone know how to fix this?
lilac lion
Servers are down, so i doubt you will be able to install
No ETA on when servers back up
pseudo hull
Can we change our username on the forums yet?
proven arrow
Not yet
proven arrow
My name is all lowercase so i feel ya
formal cypress
has there been any updates to launch before 2020? or is it still unknown when the actual game comes?
untold schooner
was always after 2020
formal cypress
in faqs it says " Live Launch will be "before 2020"." is that not right ?
formal cypress
oh boy that is rough... if I might ask where are you looking at for this information? or do they have another channel where they mention this?
untold schooner
im a clairvoyant , i see things on the horizon
no the sandal king said so, you know who the sandal king is?
formal cypress
no, who is it>?
untold schooner
okay ill let you in on it
gentle juniper
Sandal messiah 😎
untold schooner
@formal cypress now, do you know who the guy on the left is?
formal cypress
ye
untold schooner
what about the right
formal cypress
nop
untold schooner
you mean he doesn't look like jesus to you!
gentle juniper
Hah, he doesn't
untold schooner
i dunno but he has a very close resemblance
livid axle
Whens the last time we got a real updatr on whats going on
stable plover
@livid axle Depends a bit on what you mean by 'real'. Steven did an hour long interview 10 hours ago, for his 3rd interview in the last 7 days, all of which contained at least a bit of new info, we've been getting pretty regular blog posts now like the new info on scientific nodes, or alternatively March 8th was the 'State of the Game' livestream where they announced the delay of the MMO.
livid axle
About something playable/apoc
rain gull
will have every armor and weapon their unique appearance? or will it be like in BDO?
proven arrow
They will no longer put out estimates that have specific months or dates involved unless they are 100% sure they will meet them. This is because they made estimates of best case scenarios and when they didn't meet them people complained about it. So now they want to only give 100% reachable dates.
@rain gull opposite of bdo.
Loads of in game items, some alternate reskins as cash shop skins.
livid axle
Ahh okay seems reasonable
viral glacier
fading jewel
been out of the loop any mumblings on when alpha is coming for the mmo
crystal beacon
would anyone have a moment to clear things up for my friends and I? We are very interested in AoC, most have registered but unable to download the game. However, we can see that some folks have access and are playing the game (watching discord chat). Questions: what is the difference between AoC and APOC and is either one downloadable (assuming the server status's are "operational"? How have those who are currently playing, obtained access? We understand a date of release is not available (understandable) but curious how those who have access, have access. 😃
hidden crane
The servers have been down since Feb 7th.
crystal beacon
and we did see something about :Alpha and Beta packages or have won an Alpha-0 key:
hidden crane
Apocalypse is an arena themed testing mode to test systems that go into the MMORPG.
Current Release Schedule:
To provide incentive to play apocalypse - Any cosmetics you earn in apocalypse will be unlocked in the MMORPG for you to use.
This rewards the players and helps the devs with testing and data.
Nobody is currently playing and No one has been able to log in since Feb 7th's spot test. Keep an eye on #news for the next testing phase.
@crystal beacon Anything else you'd like clarification on?
crystal beacon
@hidden crane Nope this is great, and thanks for the info and time. Looking forward to joining everyone. Be well.
barren girder
I was curious, anyone know if AoC restricts weapons from classes?
I'm planning to make a Sorcerer but I saw spears used in the combat footage and would leap at the chance to wield one...
light flax
No restrictions but some weapons may make more sense for certain classes and some skills may rely on specific weapons.
wicked epoch
Does anyone know if some of the login server are bugged atm - whenever i try to change my password i get a "The display name entered is not available." after i type in the new password twice ?
plucky pawn
@wicked epoch Hi there - sounds like you're going through the migration process on our website right now, and it might be prompting you to select a new username as the one you had previously might not be available.
wicked epoch
Yes iam trying to do that (got an email to do it), but tbh - i dont see a option on the side to select / change my username ?
I try to log in and get this
after i type in a password - i get this
plucky pawn
@wicked epoch ah gotcha - please message me directly so we can troubleshoot this more!
wicked epoch
thanks will do
golden parrot
Any update on the referrals?
tulip hatch
Now that the SSO is done the Referral code redemption among other high priority tasks are being worked on.
Thats the best update we have been provided on that matter.
golden parrot
Tyty
reef osprey
whats sso?
plucky pawn
@reef osprey SSO stands for "single sign-on" - it means that now when you log into our forums, you're using the same account as you log into the website with!
plucky pawn
@reef osprey Nope, a ban on the forums would only mean that you would no longer be able to successfully log into the forums (you'd receive an error when you tried to do so), meaning you could still see everything but not be able to log in or post. It wouldn't impact your Intrepid account on the website.
reef osprey
you have my blessing to proceed in that case 
tight gale
"No Account Transfers/Sales. Accounts are registered to you personally and may not be sold, traded, gifted or otherwise transferred at any time under any circumstances." https://ashesofcreation.com/terms
plucky pawn
@woeful zephyr looks like Margaret answered your question above with the relevant link, but just in case here's the relevant snapshot out of the Terms as well 😄
wild phoenix
@plucky pawn when will the referral program go online again?
golden parrot
@wild phoenix actually I just asked that question :P, so there’s no date, but with forums and website mostly out of the way it’s likely that referrals will be an upcoming fix.
wild phoenix
@golden parrot Thx Sharky
golden parrot
._.
@tight gale What if perhaps a will, or through say power of attorney, I could disown or transfer my ownership of certain things including but not exclusive to a ks wouldn’t y’all have to honor that?
tight gale
Same applies.
"No Account Transfers/Sales. Accounts are registered to you personally and may not be sold, traded, gifted or otherwise transferred at any time under any circumstances." https://ashesofcreation.com/terms
ashen stag
is there anything special we can expect from races aside from visual looks of armor and face ?
for example is there some political system for races?
is there layout themes for buildings for races ?
for example is city hall the same style for all nodes no matter the population ?
as in if there was a community of elves would they have same building style as any other nodes ?
i would like some race specific quests and relationships and lore and items ... to give more meaning to races
proven arrow
All races have their own city themes. They havr their own stats, and racials. Population affects how a node looks though.
If a bunch of dwarves are the majority of an active population helping to level up a node that node becomes a dwarven themed node.
reef osprey
Also their own passives and augments
@proven arrow will the dwarven node theme only influence looks though? 🤔
proven arrow
Looks, tasks, quests, among a few other things.
They have built a very modular system
reef osprey
would be cool if mountain dwarven themed nodes also gave a buff to mining/smithing/smelting etc.
reef osprey
hopefully not the boring way as a buff in production speed/exp gain
differences that matter would be great
increase in durability/strength of the produced item would be great
so people would want to travel into a dwarven city to smith their legendary sword
proven arrow
They have said in the past they want choices to matter, even how nodes get built. I doubt they'd do anything that would cause one race to have a complete superiority without also having a massive flaw as well. But if you wish to continue this conversation we've begun evolving outside of the questions channel. Feel free to ask this question again in the #aoc-discussion channel.
digital haven
Will there be cities or nodes in the world that are friendly/welcoming to corrupt players? like an outlaw or pirate node or something?
reef osprey
no info on that afaik
the option to develop a node in that direction would be cool though
military (bandit/pirate type node)
divine (a Cult that worships corruption maybe)
light flax
I would say it is unlikely because the corruption system is a deterrent and I doubt they would give any encouragement to go that path.
dusky blade
Any idea why i cant login?
says beta credentials not active yet but i have alpha and beta access
empty fjord
Because servers are not online
small pecan
Yea, that means the Apoc log in servers are down. Apoc has been down for a few months (while Intrepid fixes some issues)! #news will keep you updated!
empty fjord
They've had funky offline messages since the beginning
dusky blade
Ah ok. i havent been on since the release of the battle royal mode
small pecan
Yea, it’s been a while since we could play Apoc :(
gloomy basin
when release
I'm assuming my lvls in alpha won't have a correlation with release servers
empty fjord
please elaborate @gloomy basin release of game, of apoc, or alpha?
actually neither have a date yet
and no what you achieve in alphas and betas won't affect your progress in the release
gloomy basin
the game in general
empty fjord
what you gain in apoc tho will carry over to the mmo at release
gloomy basin
what's the diff between apoc and the game?
empty fjord
apoc is their testing platform, set in the era during the fall of verra
the first game mode is a battle royale, second will be castle sieges, third will be horde mode
gloomy basin
ok thanks for info
gusty cave
Does the otter skin go on a beaver or turtle or is it just a re-color with a bamboo barding?
So any aquatic mount?
naive steppe
Can you currently play the game if you purchase the beta package? It says it gives access to "beta 2" but the release schedule only mentions alphas
crystal beacon
will i get a refund if i did
empty fjord
doubtful, but you can put in a ticket and wait for a few months as it's not a priority
marsh elk
So game will be released in like 2021?
summer robin
i wish not
i hope this year
why they don't give an exact date?
we need just the exact date thats enough
reef osprey
@summer robin
why don't they give an exact date on the cure of cancer?
reef osprey
@summer robin
might be just a game to you.
To the company/investors it's a 30+ Million project
summer robin
ofc thats true but alote off games they give a date but i dont mean thats a problem
i mean that im very exated
i mean if they give the date that will make me happy
reef osprey
great and if they miss the date, would that make you sad?
marsh elk
They don't give a date because its still a long time to be released
silent lantern
@summer robin this year is out of the question tbh
summer robin
@reef osprey no
silent lantern
@reef osprey nothing can make me sad, i am already broken inside
That being said @summer robin lets go to the discussion channel
gentle aspen
Hey looking for help with my account, got sent an email about transfering my account to a migration website you guys have? Legit email? Thanks.
hidden crane
@gentle aspen Hey there, the email was regarding account migration from the old Intrepid website to the new one. Simply log into: https://ashesofcreation.com/ and it should be fine.
gentle aspen
Ok i think i did and then it was saying to verify and then I did, just wanted to know if I did everything right so was hoping someone on their end was able to verify lol
hidden crane
If you're able to log into the new site and view your account details, you should be good to go (Once you've clicked the verification link in your email)
silent lantern
Unless someone stole your session and screwed with your router @gentle aspen 😂 😂
nah, you're fine
safe zephyr
Hello, when will be the next play session of the beta? I haven't had my opportunity and I'm really curious to try it
rotund edge
Is it legit mails that AoC is sending out about Account migration? anyone else received one?
tight gale
Yes, please migrate your account! 
rotund edge
thanks!
empty fjord
what is this account migration you're talking about?
tulip hatch
the new site and forums SSO log in
Some individuals have no logged in since they were migrated so they have failed to migrate their accounts.
Emails have gone out to the individuals who have not migrated.
white sequoia
@tight gale @idle siren now the SSO forum system is fixed can we have a definite date of the referral system being fixed please? would love to finally order a pack once and for all
tight gale
I don't have a date for you, but they are working on it! 😄
white sequoia
Pretty please fix soon I dont wana miss another awesome Set like this one
untold schooner
Why can't we use small siege equipment to attack caravans?
empty fjord
what says you cant do that? bt you cannot summon the siege weapons wherever
you need to haul it from the point of origin to where the caravan is
untold schooner
@empty fjord Because I think Steven said no last year, either that or no one ever asked him recently so we are just assuming we can use them. Need facts.
empty fjord
yes, well regarding siege engines and such need to be driven from point of origin to destination, can't be summoned on spot as I have heard. so if it is allowed, it is very unlikely that would be practical
also, this would be an excellent thing to try out in Alpha 1 or 2
reef osprey
Would be cool if you could build siege engines (scorpions) on your freehold, walk them to a popular trade route line and use them to rob
Obviously they'd be really strong, but also really slow and easily destroyed
untold schooner
YOu can place them in strategic locations in advance once you know the path of the caravan. And have enough people to protect it
reef osprey
if you can use them outside of sieges yes.
just saying that siege engines shouldn't be only there for sieging. Different kinds could be used for different things like special events, certain world bosses, caravan robbing and sinking of ships
untold schooner
Ya big "IF" we'll wait and see
wary tinsel
Are there any plans on opening the apoc servers?
gilded glacier
soon ™
untold schooner
Whens the next AOC stream, it's suppose to be at the end of each month
ruby swift
soon ™
empty fjord
Not complaining one bit, but what's with the Interview after interview? 😄
what happened?
reef osprey
@empty fjord
They are trying to build positive karma with the community so the lashback won't be as bad when they announce the 2022 delay
empty fjord
tssk, yee of little faith Warth
reef osprey
@empty fjord i took a screenshot of this. I'll ping you once everyday from the 1.1.2020 until release 
lilac lion
Def not gna release 1.1.2020 but alpha 1 probably
summer robin
what is alpha 1
reef osprey
empty fjord
I screenshoted it too. I won't bet anything of consequence on it, but let the games be on!
and I am not saying it will release before 2020, I'm well aware they delayed it, but to 2022 is just hunching it far
crystal beacon
So we've heard a lot about the corruption system when it comes to PKing and all that; will there be another kind of "wholesome" or good system for defending off corrupt people, or staying aligned to "good"?
barren girder
Bounty Hunters will be a thing I believe.
However other than the fact that corrupt players will have a higher chance to drop inventory and potentially equipped items, I don't think there will be any strong incentives for good guys.
dusty fable
But gears like weapon n armor wont drop right
barren girder
If you aren't corrupted, no
tulip hatch
Corrupted players have a chance to drop gear
barren girder
If you are corrupted, I guess you have to be deep enough in corruption for it to trigger gear drops
hard marlin
I like that.
dreamy sand
Hey all 😃 does anyone know why one of the older pre order packs would show up as [DEPRECATED] on my account?
plucky pawn
@dreamy sand Which package is it? It might be a remnant from our migration, pointing out a package that is no longer able to be earned. Please go ahead and open a CS ticket if you haven't already so that our team can take a closer look!
dreamy sand
well i did and its been 2 months with no reply ...
so i wonder if that got lost in the migration
plucky pawn
@dreamy sand Ah, sorry to hear that! Please message me directly with your ticket # and I'll be able to help ya further 😃
dreamy sand
ok! awesome toast 😃 let me log in and get that for you
burnt wraith
When is more info on summoners coming out
slender shuttle
does anyone know if friendly fire is off for party members.. i assume it will be, but you never know i guess
yeah, like i said.. i assume it will be opff for party/raid members.. but i agreee.. it would be very messy if its not off
barren girder
Is friendly fire off if you're not flagged and someone nearby is not flagged?
proven arrow
It may be similar to BDO where if you aren't flagged you can't help a teammate unless the enemy is corrupt (negative karma).
elder grove
why is it when I try to login to my account I get invalid input parameters...even when I request a new password
nevermind I figured it out
empty fjord
you would not have to flag to attack a corrupted player tho, they would appear as a npc to you, red like a monster.
silent lantern
I am curious... Previously i think the case was that players won't be killable on their Freehold territory right? Or something like that...
What if a Freehold is near a road and a caravan passes by with its open PvP zone?
Actually no, the player would have to participate to be killable, but what if he does and goes to his freehold? Would he be killable or not?
proven arrow
Inside the house you can't be killed by a passing ganker. But on the front porch then yes.
silent lantern
Makes sense.. Would combat stance allow you to open and close doors though?
reef osprey
i dont see a reason why it would matter as long as there is no fights inside of freehold buildings anyway
also it will probably depend on the access rights a player assigns.
quasi tide
Just dropping in to check on this game (since i spend 150€ for quite some time ago..) just checking is this currently still in the Battele royal thingy..? if so i am not interested at all
silent lantern
@quasi tide last the battle royal was played was 7th of February i think. The tests and everything else has been postponed because they are rewriting parts of their server software. There was a big executive letter weeks ago. You can look up and read it, otherwise keep an eye on #news to know when stuff is happening.
If you want more info about the game mechanics, Steven has been doing a lot of interviews this week, they are in the #community-media channel (at least most of them). Check them out
crystal flax
@silent lantern Wrong media channel, should edit it to the right one
quasi tide
Thanks for the effort
crystal flax
There ya go
silent lantern
Dumbass discord
dusty fable
@simple ether can the monthly subcription be paid other than credit card such as giftcard or game currency(like in my country there's razer coin)
silent lantern
I don't think there are plans as of now to pay with anything other than real money.
I think there was a question about crypto currencies a while back, but the answer was the same if i recall correctly.
dusty fable
ouh i hope they add that to the list
hidden crane
@dusty fable They are moving to Stripe and Paypal is the best we know
silent lantern
In any case it won't be anything purchaseable or tradeable in-game for obvious reasons.
limpid lodge
Sorry, very new have a question if you guys have time. Would purchasing one of the editions at the moment, grant you access to the game? Or are they still in the testing phases?
Does any specific package give you access to the game?
hidden crane
@limpid lodge They are still in development
So if you purchase any of the packs now, you still have to wait
No testing phase is currently active, Alpha 1 has not begun yet
limpid lodge
Ah, I see. The website and wiki were a little confusing. We're very interested so we will definitely keep an eye out for this. Thank you for answering my question so hastily! @hidden crane
hidden crane
Cheers, keep an eye on #news for the next testing phases
Also dont forget that you dont need to buy a pack for apocalypse testing as it is open to everyone!
limpid lodge
Sweet stuff! Thanks for all your straight-forward and honest information! @hidden crane
reef osprey
@hidden crane
originally the Alpha 2 was set for Q3 of 2019.
Considering, that the alpha 2 doesn't have 2019 TBA written, can we assume that it will be somewhere inbetween Q4 2019 and Q1 2020?
as they can't say quite yet whether it will be starting in 2019 or 2020?
hidden crane
@reef osprey Mate I just made that infographic to help newer people out. It's not made by Intrepid.
brittle ginkgo
Is there any roadmap?
hidden crane
No Ibze, what I linked above is the latest one
dusty fable
so for the monthly sub and cosmetics i can use paypal and stripe right
lilac lion
👍
rigid steppe
are there a computer requirements?
lilac lion
I dont understand the question.. isnt there requirements for literally everything? As for what specs, i forgot but you can search it up in this discord since this question is asked like every other day
Here i did it for ya
rigid steppe
thx
misty karma
Do we know when the golden feather interview will be up on YouTube or similar platform for those of us who missed it?
tight gale
They told me Monday around noon PDT.
misty karma
Thanks
unreal mesa
You can also read the transcription to the stream here @misty karma : https://ashespost.com/4-19-19-chibibree-livestream-transcript/
misty karma
@unreal mesa Oh, perfect, thanks.
scarlet moth
What Ashes race is most associated with this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skBE1756Zhc
woeful zephyr
Nikua maybe I cant hear it rn
abstract swift
@tight gale With all the interviews last week, does steven still plan on doing a live stream next week?
proven arrow
@scarlet moth Probably Vek based on how they've been shown.
shy ermine
This dude is based off of a Pangolin, my FAVORITE <3 animal on Earth, (also, unfortunately, these cute little fellas are the most trafficked mammal in the world D:) Is it still possible to pre-order and get this little wonderfully beautiful creatureeeeeee pet skin?
PLEASE
NO
My heart
Thank you though
small pecan
You might be able to obtain a similar looking one (but not exactly the one in the model) in-game!
shy ermine
Let's hope
small pecan
Uh huh!
reef osprey
Can we only havd vegan dishes in AoC?
i think its important to send a message
modest sierra
send what message, why does it matter what's to eat?
hard marlin
He's joking
modest sierra
is he tho? 
🤔
hard marlin
I;m pretty sure he's just making fun of hippie libs like me 😂
modest sierra
vegan hippie libs?
reef osprey
@hard marlin is any animal being hurt with the creation of AoC?
hard marlin
Yes, Stevens pet sandals.
untold schooner
plain mantle
where can we put in a ticket for forum related things?
I thought it was posted but I cant seem to find it
copper ibex
plain mantle
ty
copper ibex
yw
opal comet
Just curious if codes got sent out for those that kickstarted the settler package? don't think i ever received an email 😦
empty fjord
did you ever link it to your account @opal comet ?
opal comet
my email?
i think i've been an idiot and maybe ignored it being in my spam folder and it eventually got deleted
barren girder
Jahlon do you know any details about leveling? Like does HP scale up with levels?
They spoke of leveling being a more "out than up" system, which suggests we won't have level 50s with 80k HP and level 5s with 1k HP.
barren girder
Wouldn't care about small differences. Should have some sense of progress and advancement.
I'm concerned about level of competitiveness between max and low level players. It's the biggest kill joy of PvP games. You have a guild of 300 but only 9 can compete in PvP because the rest are level 40 or lower.
mighty kernel
?
hidden crane
That's a terrible guild mate
mighty kernel
Lol
pure heart
If you could be competitive at lower levels against highest ones, it would basically mean that leveling has no impact on character strength
which would be weird imo
mighty kernel
It would diminish any incentive for investing time in the game.
There are other devs focusing on horizontal progression.
barren girder
And it's not plausible because~?
If you're going to answer questions, answer questions with answers or "I don't know", don't nit pick examples. -.-
Every guild I've ever been in has been seriously unbalanced in level variance. Most guilds recruit from newbie zones and most higher level players are either already guilded, or choose not to join one. Demanding that lowbies focus on leveling up demands that they play the game they way YOU want them to, to suit your purpose.
slate solstice
mentor system thingy
barren girder
Yeah nvm.
quasi latch
will you going to be able to become a lich in game btw
for example we know necromancer will able to be good necromancer and evil
so if you become evil and achieve certain evilness get an option to become a lich
any reason for a no?
i see
potent osprey
People ask these very specific and niche questions
Do other MMOs let you do these kinds of things?
willow herald
The short answer is yes
quasi latch
some
empty fjord
there might be a racial skin to look like a skeleton or lich tho
oblique cedar
^Is that new?
hidden crane
Old
None of them are available for purchase any longer
They were all part of limited monthly pack sales
oblique cedar
Gotcha, please note old non-able-to-be-purchasables when sharing them 😄
empty fjord
Atm. All cosmetics are a one time thing. There are no permanently available cosmetics in the shop unless you hold a kickstarter pack
oblique cedar
I'm aware! Thanks! I just hadn't seen that before so it got my hopes up...
quasi latch
hopefully we will able to buy undead pack in game when it launch ^^
uncut tendon
introducing the riot vault. Basic rule of economy if people want to buy it sell it eventually lol.
native obsidian
Yep already sold preorder on steam
plain mantle
@plucky pawn Is there a reason we cant access the old guild recruitment threads from the archived forums? It says "You dont have permissions to view this" when I try to access it. Is that an error or are we just not allowed to access that information?
livid axle
Will this game have a lot of social aspects, especially when it comes to leveling? Looking back, the games that have had the most impact on me were the ones where i met new people and were heavily group oriented
crystal beacon
Not from me but this really requires a warning?
hard marlin
I mean its an internet culture thing certain guys say to dehumanize women
Not that I would tell you not to, since I'm a free speech defender
Just my two cents on it
reef osprey
@livid axle
without having played it yet, i'd argue yes.
The node system promotes cooperation of players from an early point in the game.
Does that mean you'll (have to) group with them to gather ressources snd kill mobs? Probably not. But you will want to stay in contact with fellow players early on.
Also. don't forget that it's not a game where you rush to max within the first 72 hours. Leveling to max is supposed to take multiple weeks while experiencing the game
uncut pier
What do i do if when i try and log into apocalypse it says beta credentials are not activated?
reef osprey
@uncut pier the server isn't running right now.
Keep an eye on #web-maintenance to see the next testing phase
uncut pier
oh ok thanks
reef osprey
nobody here cares about your mental problems posty
verbal grail
you’ve clearly never been to a steakhouse
potent thunderBOT
crystal beacon
lol
warm owl
When an opponent/enemy drop's their loot, will it be scattered or contained in some sort of a loot bag? (this question is for the mmorpg)
modest sierra
I care posty
shut mantle
Do we have any information somewhere on the meaning and purpose of the Ashes of Creation Phoenix?
pearl oyster
@shut mantle do you mean as the "moscot" of the game? like what is the symbolism of the pheonix in relation to ashes of creation?
silent lantern
The main game mechanic is under the phoenix lol
pearl oyster
If that is what you are asking. In the story of the game, the world was destroyed, and when the game begins it marks the return of civilization to the world, like a pheonix raising from the ashes\
raising from the ashes.... of creation
silent lantern
If we talk strictly mythos, then we have no info on that
shut mantle
Got it! Thanks @pearl oyster
silent lantern
I wouldn't bet on following the phoenix itself
but maybe something like how cats were in Egypt
You have the goddess Bastet who is mainly imagined as a cat-woman thingy and people worshiped cats.
I'd imagine a god affiliated with the sun or fire as an element that has the phoenix closely associated
hardy halo
I was a big advocate of “don’t give deadlines you can’t hit” but I’m sitting here wondering if I’ll be playing APOC next month or next year. I’ve a a lot of interviews floating around and I know Steven likes to drop hints/leaks. Have we heard ANY info that would lead us to believe APOC is coming out in the next few months ?
silent lantern
I don't think so.. They've decided to keep quiet until it is 100% ready
Steven does drop a lot of leaks on mechanics though. If you can connect all the dots cuz he drops em as a jumbled puzzle 😂
willow herald
is there any place where leaks are collected?
fading latch
Only by searching for Steven in #aoc-discussion
Other then that. Probably the wiki
But im not 100% on that second method
royal merlin
Hi, which pack do I have to buy to be able to play the game right now?
golden parrot
Well
reef osprey
@royal merlin you can't play the game right now. They have put it on hold to work on issues (network backend specifically)
golden parrot
Poor guy
royal merlin
reef osprey
@royal merlin i'd recommend checking back in ~6 months
royal merlin
6 months more of WoW sounds like torture
reef osprey
set yourself an alarm for 22.11.2019 and just forget all about the game till then
@royal merlin well, till release. Hopefully filler games like AiR, Astellia, Mad World etc. will be released to have some fun 1-3 months per game
reef osprey
yeah, wow classic will be fun for a couple of months i think
royal merlin
eso any good?
willow herald
Question to A0 players - what was the stats system like? Typical str-dex-int with "max one zero other" or smth good?
reef osprey
whats a non traditional stat system?
willow herald
Anything that is not about "max one zero other". The traditional usually include str-dex-int triangle
reef osprey
@willow herald but that's not a traditional system, that's just poor balancing
stable plover
@willow herald Screenshot from one of the A0 streams
willow herald
Thats actually better than i anticipated
hidden crane
Keep in mind that those are from an incredibly early build of Alpha 0, expect systems to change during development, especially leading up to release.
empty fjord
i.e become better or get changed again
crystal beacon
Are flying mounts confirmed for AoC?
reef osprey
@crystal beacon
they are there but really rare. Most people won't have them. Those you find from world bosses etc are limited by time (a couple of weeks)
there will only be 10 permanent flying mounts per server
5 for the mayors of metropolises
5 for the guild leaders that own the 5 static castles in the world
part of thr Reasoning behind that:
Those players will need to travel alot for diplomatic matters which these mounts should make easier
crystal beacon
Okay, thank you. So is there any other way to travel quickly?
empty fjord
between science metros there will be airship travel
and some sort of teleportation within a science metro ZOI
other than that no fast travel @crystal beacon
crystal beacon
Thanks 🙏🏼
hard marlin
Anyone know if the terrain in AoC will be terraformable or changeable?
@simple ether Thanks
crystal beacon
I just bought the 75 dollar pack and I try to log into the MMO and it says beta credentials not available yet
tulip hatch
The MMO Alpha has not begun yet there is no ETA at this time either
crystal beacon
oh rip
tulip hatch
The previous available testing mode was Apocalypse which consisted of 3 modes
Battle Royale - Castle Siege - Horde mode
This mode does not require a pack as it is free to play
crystal beacon
So the beta testing I bought is for the mmo when it releases?
tulip hatch
No actual date has been provided but since Alpha 1 hasnt started yet its safe to assume itll be some while before it comes up
tulip hatch
Yes youll have access
hard marlin
I would estimate... 2020 third quarter
crystal beacon
next year or sumthin
tulip hatch
There are no official ETAs because the developers do not want to provide dates if they are not sure they can meet them
So the best we can say is keep an eye on #news for future updates
quasi latch
tbh i don't need date i need info on classes xD
like hoping for the necromancer to be a good necromancer like the whole necrotic energy power while leading the undead to bring chaos and death to their foes
crystal beacon
fr
too many games are doing the corpse route on necromancers instead of raising the dead route
you know?
dusty fable
cant wait for the next livestream on next tuesday
and what theme is it this time they gomnn
gonna talk about?
untold schooner
maybe the economic node
bold thorn
I’m waiting for the divine node
untold schooner
me too, cause i have a divine personality
severe kindle
Hello everyone! I am a bit confused on whether or not AoC apocalypse is actually live with server problems, or not live at all at the moment?
woeful zephyr
@severe kindle Servers are currently not live
Make sure to keep an eye on #web-maintenance
We are unsure of when they will next come up
severe kindle
@woeful zephyr Good to hear, thanks a lot!
woeful zephyr
Anytime!
vast totem
Any eta yet on closed beta?
empty fjord
assumed it was about the mmo as Apoc was already in open beta
lilac lion
Makes sense
summer robin
like now we can play?
if yes whitch pack we need to buy
sry for my english xD
im from dubai
summer robin
i mean the mmo
hidden crane
MMO is in development, no date for alpha 1 yet.
hidden crane
TBA = To be announced
summer robin
ok ty
summer robin
ok
dusty fable
Wanna know if player got banned is it permannt ban or temp ban
How does player get mosnter coin and how does the system work in the mmo
proven arrow
Monster coins are both random drops in the world and cash shop items. The only rewards for monster coin events are cosmetics with no stats.
proven arrow
dusty fable
thx
plain mantle
@plucky pawn Is there a reason we cant access the old guild recruitment threads from the archived forums? It says "You dont have permissions to view this" when I try to access it. Is that an error or are we just not allowed to access that information?
plucky pawn
@plain mantle Hiya! Could possibly be an issue with how things were archived - would you mind sending me a link so I can take a closer look?
plain mantle
plucky pawn
@plain mantle mmkay, I'm able to view it, so at least I know it's still there! Sounds like it may be a permission error tied to certain archive categories - are you able to see anything at this link? https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/north-american-guilds
plucky pawn
@plain mantle Okay, appreciate the troubleshooting! I'll let the team know there appears to be an issue with just those Categories in the Archive.
plain mantle
@plucky pawn Thank you ❤
golden parrot
^
woeful zephyr
we do?
golden parrot
We do.
tight rain
Amnesty practices teamwork together in our games so we will have good synergy on release.
hidden crane
Some guilds (like mine) are just a tiny tight knit group that like to RP
golden parrot
My guild works on being kind to other guilds ❤️
plucky pawn
@plain mantle check out those links again when you get a chance - old Guild Recruitment posts should now be accessible and visible in the archive!
silk oracle
@plucky pawn works for me
plucky pawn
@silk oracle thanks for confirming!
hidden crane
It works now Toast, thank you!
plain mantle
@plucky pawn Thank you! All good!
plucky pawn
Awesome, glad to hear it all! 😄
blazing dragon
hidden crane
It was pinned in another channel, but that channel has been made private
Not to mention that's made by me as the link says, so it's not an official roadmap by the developers.
stray ferry
Hiiii i’m new. How can i get a beta key? Buying the pre order packs? Is it the Beta 1? Beta 2? Because apocalypse asks me for a beta key to log in :c
stray ferry
Oh sweet so those are for apocalypse? 😄
stray ferry
😣 and which ones are for the apocalypse?
woeful zephyr
APOC is free
stray ferry
Wut
woeful zephyr
But the servers are down
stray ferry
OOOHHH that’s why
woeful zephyr
Yeah haha
stray ferry
Thanks guys!! 😛
woeful zephyr
Sure thing, if you have any other questions feel free to ask
stray ferry
Thanks 😛 i will
ornate imp
Lol 🤦♂️
hollow oak
Does anyone know if I buy the $75 Wayfarer pack is it possible to buy the $375 Voyager plus preorder pack at a later date and if so will there be any sort of discount? ie $300 instead of $ 375?
tulip hatch
Yes you can upgrade at a later date
You will only have to pay the difference
keep in mind the cosmetics change monthly so youll have different cosmetics when you upgrade to the higher tiers
hollow oak
Thanks for the answer 😊 is there a way to buy new months cosmetics if I've already bought a pre-order pack?
tulip hatch
Yes once you purchase a package you can individually purchase cosmetics = to or below your owned package tier
waxen quartz
Is livestream info no longer being put in the news section of the Homepage? I check it daily, but I just happened to see the announcement in Discord and I see it is in the Forums? Thought we were disceminating info from the homepage first>
?
weak niche
Guess so
small pecan
Not sure! But Intrepid hired a Community Marketing Lead and Community Manager recently and migrated to a new site, so it’s probably just something that slipped through the cracks!
crystal beacon
What can we expect from this months stream?
small pecan
I believe the answer to that is “uncertain” atm!
crystal beacon
Ty @small pecan
quasi latch
question will you be strictly to specific weapon or for example can i make my self necromancer melee?
quasi latch
oh so i will be able to make necromancer spellblade style cool
crystal beacon
Is their any info on whether or not the Tulnar will have the option to look like monkeys?
small pecan
@quasi latch, what Jahlon said is true! But as a bit of extra info: not everything will be good with every class. Just depends on where Intrepid decides to take each class
small pecan
But the answer is still possibly! Yea, haha—hope so!
quasi latch
you know vampire style having undead minions while using magic upclose in melee with a sword while draining their life
and dots etc
small pecan
Haha, sounds neat! Can talk about it more in #aoc-discussion if you’d like :)
quasi latch
sure we can ^^
ocean forum
I just noticed that on my website profile only the "pets and mounts" tab shows the corresponding items I´ve bought but the rest is all shown in the "other" tab, no matter if it´s a costume or whatever. is that normal? and do you think they´ll change it so you get a better overview over what you´ve bought? 
ebon hill
Subject: Housing and Freeholds
Concern: Not enough reward to drive players to NEED housing.
Will there be more rewards implemented to make people NEED to have the housing, that scales with their subsequent level? (I.e. crafting boosts, citizenship node experience impact, defense rating during siege, etc.? Specifically Why should I be buying a mansion from another player in a metropolis? Or a house in general. (Other than citizenship)
dusty fable
@simple ether just finished watch the part 2 bout pvp there are lots of new information in the vid bout corruption that i dont know
good video bro
wispy frigate
Any word on when kickstarter codes will be able to be entered into the new website?
Yeap ticket was submitted 3 months ago. Probably just have to wait
👍 will do, thanks 😃
dusty fable
i wanna know before steven started ashes what was he doing
reef osprey
@dusty fable as a gamer or in RL?
RL: Real Estate and Salesperson before that
Gaming: Guilleader for a bunch of years (most noteably in AA afaik)
livid axle
Why isnt this a verified discord?
reef osprey
@dusty fable
buying and selling apartments, plot of land etc.
dusty fable
ouh
fading latch
@livid axle there needs to be a live game to qualify for game studio discords to be verified
livid axle
How come a game thats similiar to this, oath, have it? Theyre even further behind in production
fading latch
Do they have an alpha playable?
reef osprey
@livid axle
lul did you look at it
reef osprey
it's literally 100% predesigned assets placed into the world
livid axle
No pre alpha still
Those assets are not the ones theyre using
They were just for the video, theyre redesgning it
crystal beacon
If i'd buy a kickstarter or summer backer pack from someone, would i be able to merge it to my account
crystal beacon
okay thanks. not going to spend any more money, was just theoretically
mossy jacinth
without beat key cant play right?
proven arrow
Game's down, beta key is only for the beta's that are coming next year some time.
Apoc beta is separate and you need no key and it's free.
marble carbon
Are Tulnar allergic to any substances. this is purely for academic purposes.
hollow oak
Is there any reason to but Voyager, Voyager plus packs or well packs in general sooner than later? Other than the cosmetics that month of course?
lilac lion
No
small pecan
What Harsh said! The one caveat is that they might remove packs from the store. They will give 2 weeks prior notice before doing so though!
hollow oak
Cools thanks for the info 😁
covert plank
How many Embers were in the 500 USD Intrepid Pack that u can buy no longer
empty fjord
assuming a 50% bonus in the ever increasing bonus with higher value packs, 22500 embers is what I calculated
silk rover
crystal flax
$15
open granite
Are divine gates located within the ZOIs? if so, isn’t it most likely that these four nodes will quickly dominate their regions and may be privileged to become metros?
hard marlin
Will we be able to construct certain buildings within the Nodes to give bonuses or spawn NPCs for our Node?
weak niche
yea it's part of the responsibility of the government to decide what type of building to build
and then the community brings resources into the node to build them
hard marlin
@weak niche Thank you 😃
patent thicket
Is there an option to change my username for my Ashes Profile page and the official forums?
vale turtle
@patent thicket As far as I know, no. You may want to submit a ticket, but I can't promise anything.
patent thicket
Had considered it, but wanted to make sure I didn’t miss anything. Thanks.
barren girder
@open granite I don't think there are any nodes inside the gate region.
Anyone wanting to build a node would probably benefit more by traveling out to tier 5 or 6 regions, but that's personal speculation.
reef osprey
@barren girder maybe not lvl 1 nodes, but one node will sooner or later have the ZOI to envelope the gate
small pecan
@open granite, Steven said that he expects nodes near the gateways to start off strong. But he also expects the constant give and take of node sieges to spread them out eventually
silent lantern
@open granite yes, the divine gates (starting zones) are within the ZOI of nodes and settlements will form there if there is enough player activity. There will also be stsrting npcs so there will be stuff to do there
@barren girder everything is associated to a node, at least on land in the beginning. The world starts at level 0 everywhere, there are no node tiers that make them inherently and objectively better at start in terms of level etc.
open granite
Thanks for making it clear!!
silent lantern
you're welcome
reef osprey
@open granite
Also, with over 100 nodes across the world, the amount of people actually (unknowingly) contributing to the first node stages will be pretty small.
It's not like you can run 10min in each direction and still be in the same ZOI of a lvl 0 or a lvl 1 node.
Nodes primed to become metropolises will probably those at points of interest. Like a special point in the underworld, mear the coastline etc.
silent lantern
That's not to say that there aren't higher level zones within a node @barren girder
@reef osprey Do you think that the higher level zones will shift when a node levels up? For example i go into a level 15 zone in a level 0 node and then the node levels up and redistributes the higher level zones to other places in the node?
open granite
Yeah but as people would spread around the world after lvling up their characters, the arrival of new players at launch would still keep these starting areas super active comparing to other nodes. @reef osprey
reef osprey
@silent lantern on the move right now. will take a bit to answer
silent lantern
Be safe bro
serene sparrow
I was looking at the class equipment page and was wondering if the primary weapon has to be a melee weapon? I know the ranged slot is for ranged. Also do we know if orbs are 2 handed or 1?
silent lantern
@serene sparrow there are no class or race restrictions on gear
You can literally be a rogue with a 2h battle axe
or a warrior with a mage staff
question is how you make it work with your class
serene sparrow
Im talking about the equipment slots. I know any class can use any weapon but their are slots that are only for ranged weapons and then the first section that has 2 slots. I want to know if I can have two ranged weapons or if the first slot is meant for melee as the second one is set for ranged.
silent lantern
which depends on your playstyle, what skills you want etc.
reef osprey
@[Envy]PhDBoiBaiter Steven specif. said that there won't be specific Level areas in zones but there will be mix and mushups of monster in every zone. So in your mostly lvl 15 zones you might have 50% LVL 10-20s
20% LVL 5-10s
15% LVL 20-30s
10% LvL 30-40s
and 5% LvL 40s-50s
Thought about it for a bit:
if i were to design such a system i'd distribute monster spawn points around the map and givr them certain likelihoods to spawn certain monster/certain lvls.
Maybe even sprinkel them accross the map automatically with a certain density. ( easily possible from a technical standpoint)
Then the likelihood of a spawnpoint spawning a certain monster next would be depending on:
-
the node lvl (base distribution)
-
the approximaze distance to the next node (alters the distribution)
-
points of interest (streets, dungeons, events)
silent lantern
Hmmm.. i don't think we have info onnthe equipment sheet side of things @serene sparrow
@reef osprey got it! thanks
serene sparrow
silent lantern
That's A0. I'd say a lot will change
reef osprey
@silent lantern with the node leveling up the base values would adjust (higher lvl mobs on average)
the relative distance to the node would decrease (lowet mobs on average)
so i think they stay the same on average to come back to your question
silent lantern
Yeap, i supposed as much.
reef osprey
ä @open granite
with the node lvl increasing the density of higher lvl monster is supposed to increase as well which will push low lvl playerd towards the lower lvl vasalls of the node
@silent lantern
at leasts that's the only feasible generation method i'm seeing. That doesnt involve handcrafting everything
silent lantern
Yeap, it is more procedural and easier to manage especially in a dynamic mmo world
open granite
@reef osprey Yet these lower level vassals can still contribute to the parent node's development. So if the players stay within its ZOI, the parent node would still benefit from their activity.
reef osprey
@open granite but we dont know to what degree. They might contribute but 85% might go to the vassall, 15% to the parent
we also know that the amount of exp a high lvl node needs increases exponantially - potentially low lvl player contributions to high lvl nodes could be minimal
in the same manor that high lvl players dont get exp from low monster
serene sparrow
Do we know if orbs will be one handed or two?
small pecan
This is all we have on orbs:
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Orbs
Don’t know if we’ve confirmed either way about orbs. In Apoc, a tome is held in one hand but seems like it’s 2-handed. Maybe orbs fall into a similar category?
reef osprey
@small pecan maybe tome is 2 handed and orbs are the 1 handed counter part
small pecan
Yes, not sure!
obsidian stag
servers up?
somber basalt
No
dusty fable
the livestream is next week right on tuesday?
fluid scroll
Yes
scarlet moth
Form of a question. Will Intrepid open up the ability of new people to order packages and allow them access to the shop? Skaff. 🦀
scarlet moth
It looks to me ... Deer in the headlight. Merchant nodes are dominators.
Want money to finance your own personal war - what's in it for us as merchants?
woeful zephyr
Not have your node destroyed
scarlet moth
Ah you are military node supporter are you ....
woeful zephyr
Nah it just makes sense you’d supply the war with money so you don’t get your node you worked on destroyed
If you own a freehold you wanna keep that
forest pike
Do we know anything regards clipping? I wonder if caravans will clip through each other
For example imagine multiple caravans going on the same narrow trail...
And also players?
small pecan
Player collision is in the game. Not sure what caravans are up to though
reef osprey
@simple ether Didn't steven say that you can use line of sight during robberies in one of the last interviews?
If you can run through a caravan then you can also shoot through it, no?
To be fair, it makes sense that caravans can roll through ppl otherwise ppl could simply body block and grief them
forest pike
@reef osprey maybe instead ppl will take dmg if they try to block
reef osprey
that's why i askes jahlon Nin.
If it has no hitbox then there also can't be LOS use
forest pike
Ahh
reef osprey
To be fair, there could be overlapoing hitboxes but that would make sonebody standing inside the caravan invul to most projectiles from outside while being able to freely shoot at them
as the caravan isn't a hostile hitbox to them
steady knoll
i just joined discord and signed up on the ashes of creation website so im sorry if i put this in the wrong place. is there a good single source of info on this game?
steady knoll
ok. are they developers?
hidden crane
Hey there, yes this Discord is run by the developers, you can see their names in yellow on the right.
Jahlon and Ziltch are not devs, they are just helpful community members.
steady knoll
ok thanks
steady knoll
Theres so much and i just found out about this game today so i dont think i can ask good questions yet. i just need to look at the wiki and videos for a while.
steady knoll
what is bad timing?
reef osprey
discovering it now as we estimate it to be at at least 1 more year till releasr
steady knoll
oh i thought it was coming out soon thats too bad
brittle nymph
Does anyone know when Alpha starts?
modest sierra
no
reef osprey
Alpha 1 within 2019 is the only estimate we have so far
Alpha 1 was originally planned to be starting right around this time, but due to netcode issues they decided to push it back
i'd guess somewhere inbetween late Q3 and mid Q4 of 2019 for A1
brittle nymph
thank you!
crystal beacon
Sorry wrong chat
fading smelt
bump Do we have an ETA/window on that @simple ether ?
pallid horizon
Did we get a vedio this month?
reef osprey
Tuesday
quasi latch
Weird question you think you will able to play for example Necromancer as tanky
like let say summoning undead that deal damage when you tanking etc?
reef osprey
@quasi latch you can use whatever weapons and armor your like.
So i'd guess there is grade of tankiness you can achieve. Will you be able to main tank a raidboss? I guess that's unlikely
reef osprey
With Necromancer you mean Summoner + Cleric combination right?
quasi latch
aye
reef osprey
unlikely that he will offtank
reef osprey
no aggro generation, no taunts, don't see that happening
quasi latch
yeah understanding also i wonder Brood Warden
what is this xD
its Summoner/tank
but the name
sound like zergs or some kind of insect user
reef osprey
don't go by the name. Wait till Alpha 2 then see for yourself
quasi latch
yeah i know
just saying it sound very
weird xD
it just i want class that all about life steal
melee caster
like spellsword style
reef osprey
TL/DR
Can you be a tanky necromancer? yes
Can you be a tanking necromancer? No, pretty sure not.
quasi latch
like vampire playstyle xD
in skyrim/eso
something like that
or like in WoW blood dk
😛
drowsy holly
Hey, what is the difference between two same spells, one in action combat, the other in tab targetting? Can i have the quote from the stream?
weak niche
Why do you assume there will be two same spells
fresh heart
(Keep in mind that we might get tanky augments from racial, religious or social organizations.) @plucky pawn
drowsy holly
Because Steven said that we should choose between tab targetting or action combat for each skill, no?
weak niche
to my understanding we choose tab skills or action skills. Not tab or action versions of a skill
drowsy holly
Ok thanks, second question, where can i find livestreams transcriptions, i have this from 4/11/19, and I would have liked to have those before.
drowsy holly
thanks a lot!
wraith dove
where can i find more information on nodes?
weak niche
there can sometimes be outdated info on there but wiki https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Nodes
wraith dove
thanks
weak niche
drowsy holly
In the wiki (https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Combat) it said "Action oriented and tab oriented versions of skills will have different characteristics. Variables will change based on which version is chosen." They talk about different version of a same skill right? (i'm not a english-speaker so tell me if i'm wrong)
weak niche
Oh, yes you are right
but it also says "For the purposes of balance, certain skill types will be either tab or action oriented skills."
so sometimes a skill has 2 versions and sometimes it is action or tab specific
drowsy holly
yeah like CCs thannks again ^^
cyan garnet
@simple ether just a thought regarding killing a corrupted player as a non combatant. would it not make sense to have a 4th combat status? let's call it 'bounty hunter'. a non combatant becomes a bounty hunter when they attack a corrupted; the corrupted player can defend himself without risk of additional corruption, however, if anyone other than the corrupted target intervenes and kills the bounty hunter, they gain corruption as normal. this should prevent bait exploits?
I also think there should be a downed state like GW2 otherwise it will be too easy to 1 shot low levels, accidentally or intentionally. Killing someone should be a calculated decision. A downed state would also give the victim time to defend himself thus flag combatant to protect his resources if he chooses
Hard when one runs infront of your arrow though
weak niche
I mean come on
who is gonna run infront of it
are you attacking someone in a node
you gonna get rekt
cyan garnet
Have you never played a game with similar system? People get caught wrong place wrong time frequently
So if a non combatant runs under your meteor, they take no damage?
weak niche
if you are attacking a corrupted player no because they are basically like mobs
you dont have to flag to pvp for corrupted
but if you were attacking another non combatant you will hit him
cyan garnet
Im not talking about corrupted now
weak niche
you shouldn't be dropping meteors on tons of people anyway lol
i think it makes it fun
just tab target the guy if he is so weak
maybe like lasting aoe's people could run into
but they gotta be real dumb
cyan garnet
So a corrupted player can game the system by having his non combatant buddies sticking by him to protect from aoes and projectiles...
reef osprey
@cyan garnet how can they protect the corrupted player from aoes if they aren't flagged?
cyan garnet
Exactly. Not only that but non combatants will also put themselves in the line of fire as suicides to flag corruption; their friends then run in for the bounty. It is too easily exploitable. Sorry I'm done chatting on this channel. I actually intented to pm you initially.
silk oracle
so how is this server not verified yet ?
https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001107231-What-Qualifies-for-Server-Verification- <-
im on a indie game server (somewhat of a terraria clone) with 280 ppl on it and all they had were a very tiny demo where you could move a 2d character without an animation
and its basically not live
exotic geode
hi guys and girls of the aoc community. iam totally new to this and just bought the game with early access beta 2 but when i start the launcher it wont start
any one who know what iam doing wrong here?
exotic geode
so i cant access the APOC whit this bundle that i have bought?
silk oracle
APOC will be free for everyone
exotic geode
cool
ok so the APOC is for everyone and that bundle i bought is for the mmorpg AoC witch aint launched yet?
oki thanks for this info 😃 much appreciated 😃
one more stupid question if i may 😃 this beta 2 thingy i bought aint yet announced when i can put to use?
silk oracle
@exotic geode we dont have dates yet
exotic geode
ok then i must have figured it out right 😃
must might be a strong word coming from me though ^^
dusty fable
anyone have the countdown timer for next livestream?
silk oracle
dusty fable
thanks
spring dust
hey Quick question, with so much Emphasis on Player to player interaction; What will someone who let's say doesn't have a guild experience differently than someone who does? how much easier will raiding be and so forth.
mighty kernel
Tldr: you can be solo but this is ultimately a social game so without the ability to consistently team up a lot of content with be gated to you.
cinder bolt
Have there been any updates on alpha 1 access yet? I got the Braver of worlds and am just wondering what the word is on that
Seems fair enough I suppose
Was hoping they could give us a year estimate at least but I get it
empty fjord
well you have the previous estimates, Steven said they were pushed back in terms of months, not years. that's the closest anyone could give right now
cinder bolt
I haven't seen the previous estimates
that's why I was asking what the word was :3
Last I heard was 2018 decemberish
empty fjord
Alpha 1 was estimated for late Q2, Alpha 2 late Q3, release before 2020
empty fjord
given this we might see Alpha 1 before the end of the year
empty fjord
I hope you won't be dissappointed
serene sparrow
Is their a spot to ask questions for the live stream?
weak niche
Meaning it will open close to the livestream i thikn
close time wise 😄
Do we have any idea what they are gonna talk about jahlon?
quasi latch
yeah that sound more realistic from the pace it is going
not saying its bad
better to take their time
to give the best quality as possible
Just need more info that is all i ask T_T
reef osprey
they should not nake any announcement and just surpise Launch A1
forest pike
A1 announcement this Tuesday 🤞 🙏
slim cargo
Where can i get help with my account? Would it be somewhere on the website?
I am confused about a 'migrate account to my.com' email that i recieved. ive been away from this game for a long time now.
NA
oh. alright thank you
weak niche
Is cross-server pvp still a possibility?
desert ivy
A1 in May, A2 June, B1 July, B2 August, Release September 
austere heart
are the servers open?
mighty kernel
They are not
mighty kernel
No eta at the moment unfortunately
worthy ledge
Oh long they been down?
reef osprey
@worthy ledge about 4 months
they want to some fix medcode issues befire bringing them back
worthy ledge
Oh ok makes sense just didnt know what was going on cause bought it yesterday and couldnt download it
valid nexus
Hey I had a quick question; is the Apocalypse game mode still active/open to the public? When I tried to launch it it says my account is not deemed to be a beta account. 🤔
tulip hatch
Apocalypse has been closed while the developers work on the infrastructure.
There is no official ETA at this time
keep an eye on #news for any future updates 😄
valid nexus
Gotcha, thank you!
coarse fiber
reef osprey
@fast badger ping magareth (CM)
fast badger
Thank you, will do @reef osprey
crystal beacon
empty fjord
no dates, and your question is rather ambiguous
but no matter, either beta has no date
weak niche
How much queue should we expect when they release the game in the headstart servers?
I mean release as in to everyone
I saw 10k concurrent 35k accounts
Alright then thanks
vague ermine
Why AoC don't change to the backend of Improbable? The SpatailOS can solve all issues out of the box.. it just dont existed on the start of AoC but thats the way for real MMOs with Unreal now..
I could not understand why they started there jorney with the MMO Starter Pack by CodeSpartan, it's fine but i dont saw much difference even if you made alot backend wise now for sure.
Dont get me wrong, i still hope and thats why i backed the project, but as developer i cant understand a few things. Hope i get some answer here and no hate
abstract swift
Are we getting a Dev's Vlog this month? @tight gale @plucky pawn
tight gale
Yes
tough briar
Hey All. Did name reservations ever happen? I haven't been keeping up for many months.
hidden crane
They have not
tulip hatch
Name reservations are planned around Alpha 1
hidden crane
You'll receive a reminder by the developers before it occurs and will have a fair amount of time to reserve your names.
tough briar
Okay, cool. Thank you, Shaze and Alluring.
woeful zephyr
When will the press kit be added to the website?
white sequoia
@tight gale will the livestream which is forthcoming have good news about the referral program wink wink wink 😉
silk oracle
@vague ermine spatialos would be way too expensive
quasi latch
i know the estimated server population is 10k but for example they going to have 30k players will they just make more servers or expand the slots of the servers
?
i am really wondering
hidden crane
@quasi latch 10k is the 'concurrent' player cap. This means only 10,000 can be online at the same time
quasi latch
yes that is what i mean
hidden crane
For comparison concurrent caps for other games were: Early World of warcraft 1.5k, Archeage 3.5k, Black Desert 4.5k
quasi latch
but what will be if more then 10k will buy
and want to play at the same time just an example
not saying it will
Just saying for the if
hidden crane
There will be multiple servers for each region.
Each of those servers will have a 8-10k concurrent cap.
It's upto Intrepid to gauge player interest, account for the active subscriptions and open the respective amount of servers.
Usually games handle this by adding additional servers etc.
quasi latch
yeah
hidden crane
Rest assured that they have the expertise as they've discussed their launch plans etc numerous times in the past.
surreal elk
Cant be worse than RIFT server issues
hidden crane
Usually the actual server cap is much much higher than the concurrent cap.
surreal elk
RIFT opened way to many servers to meet demand and watered down population so bad they had server mergers just to keep player base relevant after the fall off after a few months.
Like Shaze has stated intrepid has talked about this in the past and they will make decisions to avoid some of these. But at the end of the day Intrepid will have to gauge the sub count and make smart calls.
regal oak
So excited for this game hope it releases soon 😄 beta wont be wiped yes?
hard marlin
I would expect the release to be in quarter 3-4 in2020
spring dust
well ny sooner and it might be buggy
hard marlin
I hope they take their time, but not end up like Anthem or Star Citizen
surreal elk
@regal oak beta will be wiped
regal oak
ohok
wicked topaz
Is there an alpha/beta version of the game going on now? I tried downloading apocalypse but never got let in
open granite
If a vassal node is about to have its own vassal, then the lowest vassal in the hierarchy must be within the ZOI of highest parent node in the hierarchy?
small pecan
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/File:NodeLockouts.png
Vassal nodes have ZOIs that can extend out from the parent node’s ZOI. I’m not sure how the priority system works for nodes that become vassaled by another vassal node—and then another vassal node with a different parent node also tries to vassal that node. I think the vassal node with the higher stage gets priority. Otherwise, first come, first serve
But basically no, that lowest vassal node does not need to be in the highest parent’s ZOI.
open granite
Yeah, that's how I thought until I found this quote
it's a bit contradictory or am I missing something?
small pecan
Oh, that sure is a contradiction. When was that quote given?
reef osprey
@open granite
link to the page pls
open granite
This is 'know your nodes: the basics'
reef osprey
@open granite assume that is correct then
small pecan
That’s more recent than the wiki will be. Probably an updated design decision?
reef osprey
probably yes
don't forget that some quotes on the wiki are 2 years old back when nothing was really set in stone
the first quote is from 2017 after all
small pecan
Yes, I agree!
barren girder
I'm a bit confused, require visuals O.O
Can a Node form a nation of sorts? Grow to city or metropolitan and claim a large swath of land around it?
tulip hatch
Yes as nodes grow into villages, towns, cities metropolises
their zone of influence increases as well
their border expands basically
small pecan
Yes, Tim, click on my image I linked a bit up! But instead of smaller circles going outside of the big circle, they stop at the border of the big circle
barren girder
So the reach of the nation is limited by the capital...
I'd think they would allow loyal vassal nodes to expand the influence of their liege and allow an empire to form.
Would make science metropolitan nodes world dominators though... that ability to teleport to vassal nodes means large scale armies can move to any front instantly
tulip hatch
well theres also castles we cant have the normal nodes overpowering them
This seems to have become more of a discussion though, why dont we take it to #aoc-discussion
barren girder
They busy being curious about BCG :-D
tulip hatch
👀 This channel is strictly for questions and their direct answers, discussions should go in discussion channels 
vast crescent
Say I complete all that is required to receive my Freehold Certificate from a stage 3 (Village) node and build within the nodes ZOI. If that node levels up to say Metropolis and the ZOI is increased dramatically, along with the actually size of the city limits, Does my Freehold Stay where it is (even if the City walls reach beyond where it was first placed) or is it pushed outside of the city walls?
tulip hatch
Hmm I do not believe that question has been asked before, the closest variation we have is for in node housing. Not what occurs if someone builds too close the the growing city itself
fading latch
No doubt the boundry will already be set as if it was a metro
low lantern
I bet we won't be able to place freeholds within the area that could become the metro, but that is a good question. Hopefully we can get that answered
tulip hatch
^ Thats a reasonable assumption and the best case for this situation.
Lets see if we can get that answered in tomorrows livestream
vast crescent
okay, Thanks. And, Shadowheart, I was originally thinking this but wasn't sure exactly
fading latch
Its what would make most sense to avoid the headache later on in game
open granite
And do we have any info on how big metro is comparing to the ZOIs of any node stage? Like for example is it as big as a whole ZOI of an encampment?
grave bear
i have a question on the questing portions. when you have a quest do the monsters that spawn related that quest only able to interact with the quest holder? (is it instanced) or is it something that anyone could happen upon.
fading latch
@open granite Metro ZOI covers a 5th of the map as you can only have 5 metros at one time.
This is the best example i could find in size comparison
open granite
I didn't mean metro ZOI but node itself.
fading latch
How big the metro ia visually in game?
open granite
Yeah
fading latch
@open granite https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Metropolis
Couple of videos of visuals on that page. particularly 'node advancement'
sand swallow
Q: How will the Piracy and Banditry system work? How will Piracy and Banditry help or harm the node it’s done in? If I’m conducting Piracy I would not want to hurt the node I’m a citizen in but what if the waters are clear and theirs nothing to attack. I would not want to hunt my own nodes cargo or cargo coming in to my citizen node because I don’t want to harm my own nodes economy. What is being planned to combat these worries of mine or are their no plans to address what Iv mentioned?
sand swallow
I get how Piracy works but will Jacking stuff inbound or outbound harm the node I’m a citizen in, there’s a lot to my question then just what Piracy is.
But if I am to steal form someone in my node then will the Exp I get from this contribute to the city growth of my node. The Devs haven’t really explained this system in depth at all and I got tons of questions about it
elfin estuary
it will promote bot expoiting
there should be as minimum as possible ativities between players that give experience to anything
sand swallow
Oooof Boting that’s pretty bad. I wonder what system the devs will have to combat boting on the Seas as well as on land. Will a bot be able to Pirate 🏴☠️ 🤔 Lol
elfin estuary
i love those Jahlon's inserts xDDD
there are so many hard things to play around in game design its madness onesly
like botting, cheating and like how money goes in and out
sand swallow
That’s good and I’m sure Piracy will contribute to Exp gain for a ZOI. Will a Pirate be marked as corrupted for attacking so much or just a combatant?
I just want the Devs to go in-depth on their Piracy and Bandit system more lol all in du time
spring dust
so a thief is different than a killer eh
elfin estuary
the most interesting thing for me is gladiator arena in military node
sand swallow
But a thief may have to kill a player to take their goods of course
Can NPCs have trade ships lol
elfin estuary
i don't think they plan to do much sea content on launch
sand swallow
I see hmmm
So how many sea trade routes and sea/port nodes and do the devs expect to be built? If there’s only a few sea nodes/port towns or city’s then there may not be enough action for sea content to matter but if the Sea I this game encompasses multiple ports then the Seas will be something very worth while. In the node videos they mostly show land nodes and I worry that their mag not be enough Island and coastal nodes. But some of the info I’m asking for is not scheduled to come out for a while
But the devs do build us the world. I wonderer if the world map they build will be a Pangaea map, Fractal, Continental, or Islands.(The Civilization games use these different map designs)
reef osprey
@simple ether He is asking how many nodes are along a coast
sand swallow
And how the coast is structured. How the map looks lol. Does there world model earth or Middleearth
reef osprey
@sand swallow we have no info abozt that yet.
come back in 6 months. I assume it will be continental
islands is highly unlikely
sand swallow
Lol my question about Piracy and Banditry has evolved to World Map design. I love discussions ❤️
sand swallow
😂
sand swallow
Q: We got a video in the past showing us that we can find these monster coins that allow us to transform into monsters and attack a town. My question is are these Monster Coins also available in the Sea? Will I be able to turn into a Shark or a Kraken and effectively attack ships and even siege a port while I’m Monster form?
reef osprey
@sand swallow
monster hunts are only to siege nodes (no caravans/ships).
Will there be sea based monster coin events? we no know. Would be a great suggestion though
sand swallow
So I can’t use a monster coin at free will when ever I want to? If it’s only during Sieges that I can use one then can I use a Monster Coin if I am the one under siege. Being able to use them in Attacks as well as Defense would make them a real strategic resource
And add an interesting twist sausages
Sieges*
reef osprey
@sand swallow
its no sieges. Its special monster coin events.
but yes, you wont be able to use them freely
sand swallow
@reef osprey where did you hear about these Special monster coin events? I’m afraid I haven’t seen that video or Dev stream
reef osprey
Monster coins enable players to play as monsters within the event system. This ranges from playing friends as a horde of zombies, to becoming a massive dragon.[2]
Monster coin events are system spawned events.[4]
They are structured in a way to prevent groups from gaming the system.[4]
Monster coin events are triggered by activity in the world, such as node advancement, defeating a boss or constructing certain types of buildings within a node.[5]
Monster coins are only usable during monster coin events [9]
sand swallow
Omg you know so much
proven arrow
From the wiki^
reef osprey
@proven arrow lies
sand swallow
Oh lol
proven arrow
Lol
reef osprey
fake mews
sand swallow
Na the you got that from the wiki lol