questions

[cold harness]

how original and funny

[hazy hazel]

you didnt, youre the 10th person ive seen make that joke. Games dead

[mental jewel]

We did all lear at the end right ?

[carmine agate]

Holy sh*t what a low life scammer

[queen forum]

Are we getting refund ?

[vague yacht]

if nothing after that then.... its really over

[winged sage]

Can anyone explain to me how one loses “control” of their own company without selling it to private equity?

Maybe a divorce? Would make sense given the housing contract shift.

Can anyone really provide an explanation beyond “sold the company and let the new owners be the bad guys in firing everyone and liquidating assets/shifting to overseas labour business management and pretended to resign in protest to save face”

[elder wraith]

Taking out 14 loans and not paying them is always a good first step towards that goal.

[light sentinel]

Daily reminder, you got fucking scammed

[timid wharf]

This game dead?

[narrow kindle]

It's on it's death bed. Time to say goodbye.

[rotund timber]

wipe sever start fresh soon. big wipe next patch incoming prepare for big news this week : source trust me bro

[hasty girder]

you have to work up to getting land, and plan for taking breaks so when u come back u have gold to buy land like i did. AoC doesent even have land or real farming

[dreamy briar]

anyone know the eta on when we getting our free mount for hitting 25

[quartz basin]

Stevens is obviously still in this channel for a reason.

That's prolly why all of us are still here too. too.

[crystal beacon]

Just play lineage 2 reborn server. Graphics are better from 20years ago .

[shell grove]

He’s here to troll us?

[devout kindle]

gg dead )))))))))))))

[zealous folio]

Greatest trick is yet to come 😉

[signal haven]

foreshadowing of how AoC will trick all of you by making a comeback with a full release 😎

[bleak girder]

I resubbed to WoW. Played for about 15 minutes. Bought a house. Unsubbed and uninstalled. I’m so lost.

[urban sphinx]

Well u gotta be pretty sad to still play wow soo its normal to get bored instantly😂 cant touch that game anymore

[gaunt epoch]

I dont see anything.

[nocturne bloom]

To our awesome community,

We at Intrepid would like to sincerely thank you for the trust you have placed in us during what has been a very eventful week. We’re pleased to share that the development of Ashes of Creation will continue.

Steve, the lead developers, and all key personnel have returned to the company and have regained control.

As a token of our appreciation, everyone who stood by us and has been online for at least 10 hours over the past few days will receive a set of special cosmetics. These items will forever identify you as true supporters and beacons of hope within the world of Verra.

To help prevent challenges of this kind in the future, we will be adjusting the scope of our planned 1.0 release and outsourcing certain aspects of development to an external studio.

More detailed information will be shared during our next livestream, which has been rescheduled from February 13th to February 27th.

[fickle shard]

when the game releasing?

[sterile berry]

History repeats its self reminds me of Vanguard saga of hero's when Brad sold out and and forced to release to early. When he was able to move Vanguard to SOE the Damage was done I am sorry to see AOC headed this direction I had high hope for you all.. Peace

[clever nest]

I loved Vanguard

[woeful totem]

Idk I’m hesitant to listen to that lol

[wise bolt]

why is this server still on?

[rough hollow]

are yall ready for the dev stream in 2 days? 🤣

[real stirrup]

ArcheAge Classic Referral Link legoooo https://aa-classic.com/?invite=20792832

[honest reef]

Is the game still going strong?

[versed kernel]

JUST BOUGHT PANTHEON ITS ACTUALLY REALLY FUN LIKE A MODERN EQ

[glacial garnet]

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[civic basin]

bro the company shut down.... who tf needs the number of players to prove it's dead?

[granite seal]

Hey guys, i just bought this game today. Is it any good?

[terse forum]

Is there legit a way to get our refund?

[potent shore]

What a proper name for a failed game that didnt even get to launch. 🖕

[hoary girder]

Hello @idle siren , thank you for making such a great game so far. This game is the first itch after WoW years ago. Hope this powerful message will come true.

[ionic badger]

and then you woke up

[tropic forge]

i cant confirm this anywhere. which indicates this is trolling...

[fallen plover]

I described you as incompetent.

[warm bison]

apologize to piratesoftware

[dire osprey]

Brother that game is dying slowly due to poor development decisons.

[stark sierra]

They want to continue development to avoid refunds?

[half hollow]

NEW UPDATE, MODS GONNA BAN YOU FOR FAKE NEWS. WILL LOL SOON!

[frail talon]

there are no mods lmao

[oak loom]

Soooo ... are we still waiting for mid February to get the Scarab Skin?

[strong dock]

I am waiting for this game to die ngl

[azure gull]

John Moore is a money grabber.

[late coral]

why is slowmode enabled? Is it due to all the well deserved negativity from scamming people for years, or something else?

[odd ravine]

I mean if ya'll bored www.zesty.bet is a new crypto casino that wont fuck you over (much) lol.

[ancient egret]

it is from people spam posting por.n and gore you can be as angry as you want about the game imploding but dont do shit like that

@wicked sorrel found the person that likes to post por.n in a server where the majority is underage

[wicked sorrel]

you must know what cum tastes like

[golden bridge]

Anyone over 500+ Hours able to get their refund yet? Asking for a friend

[ocean saddle]

Lol he probably enjoyed the game early on.

[tidal gull]

How do we get our money back if we bought it straight from their website?

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-alexis-michelle-rupauls-drag-race-all-stars-dont-do-it-stop-gif-18048494493390860790

[prisma coral]

lolololol

[wispy mountain]

I have made 5 attempts to get a refund for the purchase I made only 3 weeks ago with steam. Been refused on every escalation to a live rep

[proven frigate]

https://www.gamingbible.com/news/platform/steam/ashes-of-creation-early-access-refund-957327-20260211

[plush coyote]

where is kickstarter for AoC2? Steven pls I wanna invest !!!!

[slate moat]

Hey, just one quick question: what board? Ready for that ban now.

[sharp shell]

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/report-ashes-of-creation-developer-intrepid-studios-shuts-down

[hard iron]

any word of a lawsuit or anything coming together?

[blazing kernel]

There are 2 class action suits against intrepid already

[weary vortex]

When can we expect an ability balance for the rogue archetype?

[native raft]

I was denied

[ruby furnace]

Ingot a refund, jeeded 3 Times

[vernal slate]

i was also denied, i think if you have over 400 hours its a 100% deny

[upper heron]

Are we still on 6 hours slowmode?

[limpid cloak]

They declined my refound again becuse i have 70h plqytime

[tough pulsar]

https://suno.com/s/G23FVanbCJ4Vh0MG

[nocturne bloom]

youtube.com/shorts/58N1WWsrH0I

[ancient nebula]

Is there any chance that the game will continue development?

[unborn spear]

Yes, they are already working on the new update. Everything will be explained in the stream tomorrow 🤡

[boreal mango]

Hello everyone!
I recently joined the Discord and have been checking out the feed. Honestly, my eyes are popping out of my head, to say the least, from some of the texts and I'm shocked by the people. You bought the game and played it, so you liked the concept, right? When you bought the game, you saw that it wasn't even in beta testing, and there are always risks in any activity, and games are no exception! Yes, many of you spent a lot of money, but you wanted to play and help the developer! We don't really know the gist of the situation, but we're all smart and know everything. So if you know everything, why did you buy this game? And those who bought the game on Steam for $30, like me, are now running around tearing their hair out over how to get their money back, writing nasty things and spewing bile. Sorry, brother, but you've spent more on beer at the bar in one day than you paid for this game. Yes, the game has room for improvement, but I'll say one thing: I really liked the game; many of the effects are beautifully done, and there's so much more to it. I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone, but let's be human first. If you want your money back, you have the right to do so, but don't shout it out loud on Discord. The developers and the company are facing huge challenges, and any of us could find ourselves in a difficult situation. So be kind; we're all humans first, not animals!

[north gulch]

Steven is that you?

[cyan comet]

ты дурачек просто

[lilac crown]

Do you think a second Kickstarter campaign could save this game?

[carmine pelican]

shot in the dark but it would take alottttt of money to fix this prob and as it show i dont think theres a brav soul or souls with that kinda money to fix this

[spark willow]

Going to Be so funny when the game is back on track and all the problems are they they will cry why did I ask my money back. The game will be work just whit an other team off dev's

[rich token]

another question: WHEN? If in one-two years then it's pointless.

[ocean saddle]

Brooo same I bought the game for $65 and I’m not even want to refund the game. I enjoy gathering materials and dungeon-delving since mobs in a dungeon can be aggro. The mobs on open fields are broken atm. Some people are broke I guess can’t afford to lose less than $100 on a game they bet on being a WoW killer. It’s different for the guys who spen $700 and above haha

[vague yacht]

Steven: "Alright guys the game is back but I'm going to need you all to log in with a I.D and face scan to confirm your a real person since we have so many new players signing up we can't tell who is real or a bot"

[wise crystal]

Im broke, give me the cost for the game since you can and I cant afford to lose $100 bucks on a game thats 9+ years in the making and still managed to rip off people

[golden bridge]

For those wanting to play quinfall let me save you some time and money. You know thos ai mobile game ads you see on your phone. That is quinfall, just on a pc. Hot garbo

[analog frigate]

Quinfall good frfr, all the carebears crying aren’t pvp heads

[earnest briar]

SINCE we paid for it, could we not just claim the rights to AOC - and Community develop it instead? surely we got some brainy coders amongst us?

[regal tartan]

Thats not how IP ownership works.

[verbal wolf]

No matter what, I like this game and cherish the joy that the game team has brought me. Thank you.

[plush coyote]

hell yea, I got my money back from this garb game but the copypastas for the week after shutdown in this discord before mods started banning ppl was worth to be part of AoC. Sht on here was f hilarious 🤣
I hope we get the copypastas back, banning ppl on discord from a alrdy canceled project 🤣 🤣

[haughty fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZRSw_YSSjA

i followed the steps in this video and got my refund in a day

[tender flax]

can restart serfver

[harsh beacon]

Where can I buy this game?

[limpid wren]

In heaven where it will reside ( I’ll sell u my login for 100$)

[sinful grove]

The delusional dreamers are back for a round 2 of smoking some copium?

[naive kraken]

why we still here ?

[past bolt]

has this been confirmed

[wooden cloud]

What is that, a rick roll or something worse

[long abyss]

Why is discord trying to get me to ID Verify lol

[desert ivy]

Give your ID to Netenyahu NOW

[strong dock]

sheeesh

[knotty helm]

AoC has been redacted too! 😄

[trail jacinth]

You cant buy or re install the game on steam

[nimble epoch]

Steam denied my request to return it.

[lethal terrace]

did Ashed updated the website home screen with the stream message?

[copper narwhal]

Quinfall was dogshit according to everyone, then ashes died and apparently is gods gift to MMOs. Be real it’s garbage

[stray charm]

how many hours do u have

[tribal jewel]

There are other places ya can look at. I mean, if you all want a really good PVP spots to fight on, and can be quite risky, Albion is good for it

[tall needle]

I'm highly suggesting project gorgon. Graphics are kinda ass and animations are def early access but the level system is insane. They have like 60+ runescape styled skills from mining to a literal skill for dying. You can actually get BETTER at dying 😂 has vampirism, lycanthropy (during full moons werewolves are force turned and stuck in wolf form for 3 days), anatomy PER CREATURE TYPE, wild things like calligraphy. If you want pvp I cant speak on it for gorgon as its still testing pvp but it exists in an infant state currently. Ive seen a ton of ashes nomads making there way there. If yall join and wanna startup a guild for us ash heads hmu 🙂 in-game name is MrSquishee.

[quasi cargo]

did they close the game already !?

[prisma coral]

coward for not just putting togeather

[tepid spire]

Im excited for tomorrows dev live stream!

[cerulean dawn]

wtf?

[red flame]

I m excited for tomorrow dev live steam too ❤️

[potent hatch]

Does Phoenix rise from the ashes?

[heady gazelle]

!stream

[rocky haven]

Got my refund!

[west meteor]

Traitor

[void minnow]

wtf how can you be so stubborn lol

[hasty girder]

Joppa of Panthepn had an AoC dev on his stream yesterday, think it’s on youtube

[lean sandal]

Where is Steven with his explanation what happened?

[fallen bobcat]

!stream

[tribal jewel]

No new answers yet. We're just waiting to see what he says. He's currently sorting things out. Based on what he said in #alpha-two-general back in 6 February, it'll be a while before he can give us the answers

[unique parcel]

If you're going to rage bait and be racist you might as well say the shit correctly

[gusty fjord]

so the game is just with its legs up in the air atm? i couldnt even get a refund from steam they just kept telling me sorry cant do , contact the game devs themselves not us

[pliant barn]

steam will refund you, dont send auto requests do a manual one. the ''i have a question regarding this purchase'' option

[hoary patrol]

yea sucks man, i didnt try the alphas or anything even though i investing day 1 a good portion. was just waiting on full launch so no spoilers. Pretty dissapointed after what 10 years?

[sage saddle]

Me too ❤️

[long eagle]

is the game not closing down "

[ocean saddle]

There might be a big surprise

[knotty hedge]

I told everyone years ago that if a project looks mismanaged it's a wash and they will pull the rug sooner or later. Then I bought a copy to play with friends. FML lol.

[faint spade]

I could re-download the game just fine, downloads aside, if you bought it before steam, refund wont work? any news on the stream?

[wise crystal]

Steam came through and got the refund . Instead of going through the normal route, request to speak to someone and explain how the game that promised 1 month of game time after early access can no longer be met cause game sh*t itself and is shutting down.

[lost knoll]

no way how many hours did u have

[formal mauve]

What time is the stream?

[remote shard]

Could there be a miracle?

[digital fog]

IDK how to do that'

[fresh wren]

Can we have Narc do the livestream tomorrow??

[radiant turtle]

wat steves not in the channle anymore

[vagrant vector]

so is the game dead or not kinda would like to know i mean it looks about finished.. to me and would hate to see a game with progression such as this die out as it could be the next SWG like game

[brave ocean]

It's dead Jim.

[sweet kestrel]

hey everyone i just bought the game off steam. dling right now, at 90%. can't wait to get started

[lime bloom]

No you didn't

[frosty vale]

Anyone else excited of today's stream?😗 I'm hoping to hear something about the 2ndary archetypes and maybe some news about Tulnars.

[ember willow]

Judgement day.

[loud sleet]

The AI councils took over the board and they will live stream tonight at 9:00 PM

[weary vortex]

What's the better choice, physical or magical damage for cleric?

[nocturne bloom]

ists judegement day for almost 2 weeks now, and i'm still playing the game having fun 😂

[rugged marten]

magical

[jade shadow]

who knows where the cock sucker, Steve, live in the USA?

[sinful grove]

Nothing, everything promised only works fine in Narnia or Takatukaland

[mellow bay]

New CEO for ashes @woven kettle

[jaunty crater]

PAX DEI clan Ravengate is recruiting PVPers. Love it or hate it, we are very active having plenty of fights. Check my bio for links.

[strong dock]

Why the fuck this is still on, turn this shit down and forget!!!!

[formal mauve]

ну и где стрим супер пупер разрабов ?

[fluid heart]

Какой стрим ты о чем

[idle spade]

Hey how’s it going

[stuck folio]

Ashes should have been a NFT game

6 hour slow mode yes terrora

[knotty hedge]

Like Star Citizen?

[tawny hemlock]

You need to learn to Troll better. You cant have just bought AoC on Steam cause Steam removed the purchase option. So stop being an ass.

[whole hound]

Steve is in circle 9

[viscid rain]

Where is Gamora

[tropic spruce]

@idle siren are you still here?

[marsh dust]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rip-leonard-nimoy-gif-IL4iTvQH0MjS

[hallow badger]

Today is a good day to ........?

[fresh haven]

!stream

[restive copper]

Are the servers actually still up? I deleted the game just curious if anybody knows

[plain hinge]

still up

[fringe drift]

When 64 classes release date?

[stoic hull]

is this live stream happening to know if the people can sue or what?

[pseudo knoll]

So, today we are supposed to have some "GREAT" news right?
Let's see what's coming.

[storm sparrow]

the stream happened it was amazing the future and the upcoming updates look amazing just unfortunate that Steven wasn't around to show his face to tell me which part of the development my money went on im sure he'll show his face next time

[urban sphinx]

Idk if u sarcastic or slow...😂 there is no stream/news u know that right? It was moved cuz when it should happen shit was going down

[uncut raft]

!stream

[ornate surge]

!stream

[radiant turtle]

wheres the stream link

[limpid skiff]

https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation/schedule

[bleak girder]

I made a few videos just running around looking at stuff after the game died if you’re interested. YouTube @R2Deez . Chat is kind of funny as well.

[heady gazelle]

!STREAM

[worldly atlas]

Let’s just go play Quinfall

[small glacier]

Did I miss the livestream today?

[runic marten]

Nope it didnt Start yet

[worthy horizon]

What are the chances we won't see any live in 40min? 😂

[covert saddle]

i give it a snowballs chance in hell there will be a stream.

[tame wolf]

Hi all

[bleak wedge]

beetle mount when?

[deep jasper]

Where Strwam now?

[pale turtle]

Stream isnt going to happen lol , nobody work there anymore

[opaque estuary]

if that ISNT a rickroll i will be disappointed in you

[flint vapor]

@idle siren Stream? tag him everyone

[solid flame]

Insane even at this time people don't realize that they were scammed.

[crystal beacon]

There is no stream????

[urban token]

fuck ya nice rickroll there got me

[glossy violet]

@idle siren we waiting for stream

[gentle oak]

steven damn, I knew from day 1 that he was selling thin air 😄

[sinful grove]

Stream is set for 21.00, so in 45 minutes we will see (nothing)

[void hamlet]

no its 20.00

[crisp saddle]

how's the stream going, boys?

[rustic vale]

I actually think it's just an auto-regulator bot, and since everyone has been fired, they themselves are not aware of the stream...

[high slate]

Yes you missed it

[fervent vector]

Hey all, come on over and play Project Gorgon!!!!!

[placid mountain]

Next year

[rare drum]

Next life

[loud sleet]

what a nice stream i agree with everything said keep the good work guys!!!

[dusty obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-12565004940729182637

[robust flume]

There really won't be a live stream? It was the robbery of the century, they simply vanished

[narrow agate]

There is no word strong enough to say how I feel about AoC , F U

[fringe drift]

He's not a developer bro he just pays his employees using our money

[thorn plank]

It's a fucking video game that didn't come to life, it's not that serious. Go outside, seek help

[desert yacht]

where is the stream!

[main hull]

so no stream game is oficial dead (=

[regal girder]

It's the games purgatory

[drowsy delta]

People still thinking there was going to be a stream after everyone got laid off is crazy

[dawn juniper]

Was there no stream? No info today at all?

[blazing vessel]

no stream.

[fallen plover]

What's going on, guys? Can someone explain?

[ember willow]

Yeah, with no stream that is the final nail to be honest. I can't see any recovery

[peak rover]

Seems we got a stream in the end

[halcyon tiger]

why ask why

[dire olive]

Dam I just remembered the development update was today. Did it happen? 😂🤣

[faint delta]

Yeah dude we're getting all 64 classes in next month's update, along with level 30 as the new cap. Super hyped!

[gentle oak]

funny that some people were even defending the man after all these lies...come on it was clear since the beginning that he was selling thin air. 2M players at launch....for sure 😄

[gray osprey]

what a BRILLIANT con man

[turbid jackal]

Jason roasting Steven on Nefas stream

[kind path]

Has anyone had luck on refunds through steam? I only got the base game but I've definitely played more than 2 hours 😭

[paper onyx]

If you get the game on steam, you can get refund with any time on the game click on " I have a question about this purchase " (Not " I want to request a refund")
And copy past this :

The game’s development studio (Intrepid Studios) has shut down.
The CEO resigned, and all developers were laid off shortly after launch.
The game is now unplayable and the promised content will never be delivered.
I'm requesting a refund due to a fraudulent/failed product.

[golden bridge]

Can tell you're the type to bend over to anything. In that case bend over and take deez nuts pussy

[loud sleet]

https://www.twitch.tv/nefasqs

[tropic forge]

that was posted before the layoffs

[high slate]

This fucking dumbass lol

[zinc cave]

So Steven pretty much convinced and manipulated a 70+ year old retiree couple out of 2 million dollars of their life savings. Plus used Investors and customers money to pay employees, while the company was working while losing money. Steven calls the bank who owns his property/house and has line of lending in the company. Tells the bank that Steam has Their money so that they don't claim the money out of the house sell. Steven calls steam has steam give the money to the bank. That money was supposed to be used to pay the employees. He did all that out of pettiness for his lost of position in the company and to not loose money. Jesus, let's see what else is uncovered.

[fringe drift]

🫃

[tender shard]

https://www.youtube.com/live/poR0ezsfeYU?si=59DgqErOAmoMjjrr

[tepid spire]

i missed the dev live stream; was it any good?

[crisp galleon]

https://youtu.be/cXiV6CIfqRY?si=F6K8cnSCZOG3sBGs

[jovial tree]

where is Steven currently?

[sweet kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kreath-goat-ram-spin-game-gif-13303560316672052548

[hasty girder]

I dont think we will ever hear from him again.... take a look and draw your own conclusions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXiV6CIfqRY

[plucky meteor]

Hiding until Karma hits

[crisp saddle]

are we uninstalling yet?

[whole swan]

GG, everything is refunded. I bought everything over official website on september. Used paypal to get a refund. It was processing for 13 days, because they were waiting for intrepid's response. And ofcourse they did not get it. It works only if your order is less than 1 year old. Good luck getting refunds. It's up to you to do it.

Don't write any messages to me. Just use this cause in refund: Downloadable content. Explain that company promised the game to be released and it closed. The game will never be released.

And again, I bought this on september 15, so it was about 5 months ago. Anyone who bought during kickstarter I guess you out of luck.

[candid seal]

how?

[elder wraith]

☝️ Before any monkeys start telling people they can arrange PayPal refunds for them, obviously don't give them your account. This server is a lawless wasteland now, people like to scam, don't get scammed back to back in this server 😄 Not saying Ethian is a scammer per se, just be careful.

@whole swan You can ''What?'' but I'm just putting it out there. Many people have gotten their PayPal refunds declined, so if a guy shows up showing them successfully getting a refund you'll have people who get desperate to get their money back. Again I'm not saying YOU are a scammer. Just saying that ''showing off screenshot of successful refunds in the aftermath of kickstarter scam'' to bait naive people is a VERY COMMON scam in the kickstarter MMO scene lmao

@kind salmon Public filing shows that Steven and his beloved husband more than likely embezzled over $10M from the company in unpaid loans and some form of property transfered which was initially purchased by Intrepid. He's essentially a confirmed scammer and used investor funds to improve his QOL instead of putting it towards further development of the game. Explains why the game was so chopped even after nearly a decade.

[nova zephyr]

115 million $ scam and steam is still denying refunds what a joke

[kind salmon]

Any news?

[balmy acorn]

no news is good news they say

[misty depot]

Have you missed the fact the game is not releasing?

[outer sinew]

Hey Brother. Can I please borrow some more money off you so I can pay you back brother Jason?

[sinful birch]

Can you link source? Would like to read about it

[warped panther]

Anyone left still defending Steven?

[raw wedge]

What happened to live stream yesterday? 🥲

[dim lichen]

Realistically if you ask them to just credit your steam account your chances of a “refund” are much much greater since steam is guaranteed to get the money

[zinc cave]

NefasQS was live with Jason an investor that knew Steven personally and they have been at each others house. This is his YouTube live where he reveals everything. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kELg_8TP_Is

[clear thorn]

Where stream?

[low silo]

https://youtu.be/IQOTjfCIS3g?si=-yltcMuYIihovDcU angry investors

[gray sedge]

link?

[drowsy fable]

I just came to say, Fuck you!

[vocal patio]

At this point in time, he's probably hiding from either the Feds, the Chinese, or both. If Steven doesn't get brought to justice here, maybe he should be shipped over to China, I bet they have quite a few things they want to talk to him about.

[golden bridge]

Hoping Steven gets brought to justice and sent to jail. And let’s be real he’d probably be a little too excited about those prison showers.

[carmine elk]

good one gil i laughed

[distant minnow]

Thanks to the team, for us the game was really fun!
Fuck you Steven!

[small portal]

How come the game had a total of 140 milion $ invested and it didn't make it?
While other small budget mmos with almost 0 investment (like quinfall) come out?
Fuck you Steven! Go to jail.

[tranquil birch]

Hopefully the investors keep the game going with a smaller crew a creative director who isn’t a retard and keeps it going , sounds like they wanted to keep the game going but lay off like 70 percent of the people

[fringe drift]

🫃

[trail jacinth]

the new game is The Quinfall if anyone wants to know enjoy

[sonic peak]

Come to play { New World } many of ashes player joined here . Search new world to steam and come for play : NEW WORLD

[sage solar]

Search YT for "NefaQS ashes files"

[frank fog]

Props to him for being able to keep most people gaslighted for so many years.

Its insane how the company was on the verge of shutdown for years on end, while they were on a playground trying to learn how to build a game.

This like a scammers dream come true, you are the Idea guy and found an Angel Investor to fund you're idea.

Only thing that is important right now is that 2 things:
1. Steven was the on that put the pebble on the train rails and derailed the company that HE DID NOT OWN. Trying to pay out his house from the Steam Funds. That he purchased with the Company Money payouts as salary and loans etc. So we are here today, because he could not bite the bullet, accept the downscale to a reasonable team and try and provide an actual product. But again, he knew the moment people find this out, all investors and support would draw back and the game is as good as dead.
2. Kickstarter full of lies, all money he invested which is not even 1 million he got paid back over the years. So from the start, all the claims of the game being fully funded etc. Is all lies, the game was funded, but by his Angel Investor, not by him.

[amber ice]

Quinfall is pretty good.
A lot of things ashes was lacking Quinn did well.
A lot of things Quinn is missing, ashes did well.

Its like AoC .75

[young gate]

The 110 bucks i paid turns out to be worth it for the drama that is unfolding 🤤

[rich token]

The Quinfall much better than Ashes, just saying

[mighty vector]

Need refund, how ?

[latent lake]

Time machine

[sweet zodiac]

@idle siren your a faggot for what you and your husband have done

[mint inlet]

@idle siren Do you like my song?
https:// youtu.be/eWPzDlTBaVg

[jade shadow]

@sweet zodiac what do you expect from him, he is a multi level marketing scammer?

[hasty girder]

i don’t trust the devs that made Quinfall either it’s a turkish development team so.. you know

[whole hound]

Jumping from a dead game to another makes no sense

[oak bloom]

So steven was a 100% scammer for years, dude even bankrupt a 70y old couple from their savings, dude is fcked.

[dire vector]

Is that stream on twitch talking to the investor real? Is that really Jason?

[gilded river]

jailtimeeeeeeeee

[loud sleet]

Graphics feels awful and the experience in general

[true surge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-soup-kitty-soup-cat-cat-meme-gif-11696140935057453268

[latent cave]

ayyy, kebab mtx, shish kebab dual wield 👀

[plain shadow]

respect the kenshi

[willow forum]

**Guys, I just want to say something real for a moment.

I’ve been getting a lot of DMs asking what’s going on, if we have inside information, or if we know something more. The truth is… we don’t. As moderators, we don’t have any extra details. We’re in the exact same position as everyone else, waiting for official news and trying to figure things out just like you.

I get the frustration. A lot of us invested time, money, and a lot of excitement into Ashes of Creation. It meant something to us too. But turning the Discord into a place full of anger or nonstop theories isn’t going to change the situation. Right now, most of what’s going around is just speculation. None of us truly know what happened or what will happen next.

For me personally, I decided to just focus on enjoying games again. I’ve been playing Epitome with several members from this same Discord. We’ve been gaming together, staying in touch, and just keeping things positive while we wait for anything official.

And honestly, maybe this is a good moment to try something new, or even go back to a game you already love. Don’t stay stuck in frustration. Games are supposed to help us relax and enjoy ourselves, not keep us stressed or angry.

We don’t know what the future holds, but we’re still here.

And please understand this too: we’re disappointed just like you. We care just like you. We’re not on the other side of this. We’re right here in the same position, waiting and hoping for clarity just like everyone else.** @here

[visual forum]

Welp back to EverQuest.

[thorn crescent]

Assume the game will shut down sooner or later. The lack of an official statement from the owners, management, or anyone involved in the project suggests a lack of concern for damage control and the reputational impact. In my opinion, when a company no longer seems concerned about managing these issues, it's usually a sign that the project has no real future and is, in practice, already abandoned or on its way out.

[serene maple]

sounds like it was a money scam the whole time ....we got robbed
the whole company got ruined cause of steven ...people listened to him and we were all tricked

[mint birch]

Guys I have an amazing ideas and concepts for an MMORPG that all will love.
It's on Kickstarter but it's fully financed by my own pocket.
It's called "Scam Of Scams" it's totally not a Scam.

Go fast and buy my virtual pack of mounts and skins you won't ever see or use just for 999.99 $
And remember it's not a Scam

[bold lynx]

sounds like its time to take legal action against steven

[lament depot]

https://discord.gg/riseofagon

[pallid sable]

I’m not a fan of The Quinfall but Aion 2 (if you can over look the cash shop) and Project Gorgon are fun, also do the <@&542059693779058748> not have the ability to turn off or down the slowmo, also who all here thinks that the RMT was also Steven this whole time

[heady kayak]

LOL muted in alpha 2 general for some reason, i dont think i even ever said anything

[twilit tide]

Is Steven a scammer and a thief? Yes

[granite seal]

Isn't the rust devs buying new world?

[versed kernel]

https://youtu.be/IQOTjfCIS3g?si=elluL3-7LMFmPGhH

Steven needs a Netflix documentary. I don't think I've ever seen anything this bad in MMO history.

[worn heron]

dont make me even more upset.. tree of savior (used to be) the best

[sharp lily]

Does rise of agon have anything akin to a healer class?

[stable cypress]

If you have any doubts about Steven watch the Nefas videos. Steven paid himself at least 5 million dollars out of what should have been funding for the game. He personally screwed the employees out of their final paycheck. It doesn’t really seem like a plotted scam way to messy to have been that just a sloppy greedy narcissistic asshole that has all of us dancing a stupid dance for him . Fuck that guy

[earnest briar]

I have never seen so much Qualified Detectives in 1 Game server, Its a wonder all crimes are not solved with all the detectives found on this server.

[atomic pollen]

You dont go on 4chan do you?

[long silo]

Can someone buy the fkin game and develop it already? The game was awesome

[compact warren]

<activates 6 hour cooldown>

[main hull]

There's a theory that Steven was just Margaret's puppet. The countdown has been activated.

[rose whale]

you must be one of stevens flunkies to even make that type of statement.everybody has seen and heard messages and someone whos played a part in all the bs.Eat ah dick bitch boy

[rigid bear]

can i still upgrade my kickstarter pack???

[limber forum]

Yeah where’s that kickstarter I want to throw money in the garbage

[mellow sundial]

The game was always mid

[shy swan]

i’m charging back the $600 i paid to this scam of a company 7 years ago for alpha keys for me and my brother. fuck this scumbag

[past bolt]

i doubt that but good luck

[ancient egret]

a 100% chance your bank wont let you XD

[gusty stream]

Bois come to the quinfall it’s way better

[umbral sonnet]

where do i find the herbalism certification

[night bay]

Guys did anyone get the refund off steam? If so what's the path cuz i keep on getting Denied by bot DM

[worldly atlas]

Just go play Quinfall bro

[inner plover]

Support then I have a question about purchase, select ashes, type out what happened, send. Wait 4-5. Profit.

[dusky wyvern]

same

[plush coyote]

you "ask a question" in recent purchases, ask there, if u ask via refund it will automatically get denied since u exceed 2hours and/or 14days since purchase
if you played like a lunatic tho since the announcement then get f'd lol, how are you so late with this and how can't u manage to read what has been posted like 10000000000times on how to do it
well or just use common sense in the first place

[glad jacinth]

When is the class action lawsuit?

[north citrus]

The company's developers were laid off after the Epstein case was exposed.

[wet quest]

Would have been peak if the man himself was in the Epstein files.

[mortal ermine]

Any updates?

[potent kindle]

hey guys I just bought this game anyone wanna play with me

[lyric grotto]

I hope Steven goes to jail!

[hallow rose]

its VERY likely to happen. Many, MANY federal crimes were committed by him by himself. Its all documented and proveable. Once these lawsuits enter full swing, criminal proceedings are to follow.

[karmic depot]

isn't that darkfall? WHen they plan on releasing?

[lament depot]

YES SIR

[polar mauve]

guys did the stream happen today?

[round belfry]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kELg_8TP_Is

[winged sage]

If they don’t switch to UE5 game is released by now full featured

[zealous folio]

@idle siren Any new remarks to say, now your exposure video has surfaced? 👼

[sinful sequoia]

Just an alpha bros

[jolly flume]

Sorry guys, but all this Steven hate just means the game ain't for you

[whole swan]

Bard lvl 12 looking for group OAK

[crimson kiln]

How much do they pay you?

[thorn plank]

bro thought he cooked so he said it in several channels

[true surge]

are they refunding even after the 2 hours of gameplay and 2 weeks of owning?

[vernal slate]

Yes in general they are refunding with any amount of ownership time as long as you have less than 200-300 hours

[loud moat]

https://wccftech.com/ashes-creation-investor-alleges-140-million-fraud/

[main hull]

Today’s question is that everyone is stubbornly whitewashing Margaret, her dream team, and the developers. Even though we have real, proven facts that we can see with our own eyes.

1. The great community management team “rode off into the sunset” and completely abandoned this community.
2. The great coder-developers made outright garbage.

And the joke is that these completely unqualified people will face no consequences; moreover, part of the community feels sorry for them and considers them some kind of victims. As a result, these people will continue to poison the industry.
As for Steven, let the court deal with him — whether he is imprisoned, sent to a psychiatric hospital, or nothing happens at all, his career is over.

The countdown has been activated.

--
@ancient egret
It’s like Pirate, who was a Blizzard developer 🙂

And yes, maybe at some point under someone’s leadership they did something good. But are we supposed to glorify them and forgive everything because of that? Take Greg Street — he made an underwhelming game and ended up bankrupt. Honestly, all these former employees of something-or-other are already tiresome. Past experience is certainly important. But we can judge their work now.
We have facts. The game is in a terrible state after 10 years of development. And yes, it’s an alpha and blah blah blah, and the move to UE5 (by the way, anyone who has worked with it knows that if the foundation is done properly, migration doesn’t require starting from scratch), but what was shown at A2 was a tech demo — and a very poor-quality one at that.

And here’s what we get: a person receives a salary and produces outright garbage. They get fired and everyone starts feeling sorry for them. They calmly go to another company and repeat the same thing. Many of these “legends” worked on and killed NW (as soon as they were fired the project started to revive ), they did the same in AoC, and now these poor souls will go and do it again on another game.

[ancient egret]

??? the people that you call garbage are some rly well known devs from other great games. you have fuck all idea about what you are talking about. you can shit on steven all you want he is a scamming turd but the devs are innocent in all of this bullshit

they did nothing like that they got a warn act notice from the board that is just about the only thing steven did not lie about lol @versed kernel

[versed kernel]

the devs literally abandoned ship cus Steven told em too. Get fucked. And Everquest is gay. Just like Steven.

[tired zenith]

Steven scammer piece of shit fuck u all

[opal stone]

hello. am investor from romania. steve told me big opertunty in new on line game. i said to mothar sell the horses and carts soon we rich.

so tell me steve from america, where is money? i gave you 3000 leu for 4% of company but where money ? where company ?

my mothar say: steven if money not give back, then we take inturd studios to ameria court

and steve remember i invest and i also buy game. if ban, then twice you fuked me

very thank

[latent cave]

yea, im pretty sure you are that kind of person that would love to get fucked but another gay guy... what an idiot

[vagrant galleon]

your still a clown has not and will not fail.

you just assume the worst in everyone. your only reflecting your person on how you treat others.

the "i told you so" 12 year old shows even more.

Im glad im never got into the gaming industry because of people like you.

[fallen garden]

I say we march on intrepid... fucking Gross business. Refund us all

[hallow yarrow]

I got a refund through PayPal. I bought in during phase 2.

[pallid sable]

Tbh I’m surprised Steven hasn’t chosen the nuclear option and just deleted the server, he must love reading all the hate

[proven cosmos]

dagestan superserver experience discord

[jagged pilot]

Any news about other companies buying AoC assets and making a new game? Imho AoC is a fine game, as long as Intrepid Studio is not involved

Edit: @hard grail, why not? The game is kinda fine as assets, need just a couple of years of development. Since it's worth basically nothing atm a more serious SH may buy it for few thousands dollars and make it a good game out of it

[hard grail]

Fine game? Lul

[hushed creek]

Does anyone have any free codes to try the game? Im not sure if I want to fork out $100, but I really want to start a new game and I'm off for a week.

[zenith elk]

I had 240 hours. Steam declined my refund. I sent it view receipt as suggested.

[sage solar]

Seriously. Just sharing I found the game and my surprising positive experience as a AoC Refugee.
If you dont want to play Quinfall, dont.
I was just offering support of the game based on my experiences and how unexpected it was.

You didnt need to be toxic and reply with a judgement. You could have just read it and gone, nah, not for me or provided your constructive experience if didnt like it.

[novel lichen]

Quinfall is just another turkey/Russia classic asset flip game ready to be rug pulled. Whoever comes here saying anything good about it is just delusional or from the team behind the game

[gilded river]

jojn the Stream guys Scars of honor https://www.twitch.tv/armegontv 🙂

[timid moss]

yep. never doing this shit again

[smoky sky]

https://klipy.com/gifs/give-my-money-back-ethan-1

[shy swan]

can i get a refund for my $300 alpha 2 key purchased from intrepid in 2019

[misty whale]

Small Indie Studio uses store assets 🤯 well for 10 Bucks you get a playable MMORPG, rough with a lot of edges but playable, so cant be worse then the 375 I spent for ....

[plucky girder]

thoughts on project gorgon?

[vocal plover]

Well I hope that waste of human skin goes to Jail! He is already used to pick the soap! I donated $525 via KS to him and his husband. My apologies to everyone who lost their jobs and did not get paid by this horrible person

[fickle latch]

What's the best emthod for to ask the refound Steam plz ?

[visual forum]

@idle siren Good afternoon sir, where are you hiding?

[outer dragon]

@idle siren you not roping is a testament to your narcissism. I’m almost impressed you scumfuck.

[ivory plank]

insane what happeend, are the mods finally gonna reduce the slowdownmode? insane i was about to purchase the game before all this fiasco, i cantr even get access to alpha 2 role

also it is alleged taht steven embezzlement and fraud investors lmfao hope he get a lot of years of prison sentence

[reef minnow]

Prince Steve is never gonna allow people to attack his ego more than once every 6 hours

[cunning obsidian]

@idle siren the idiot must be somli Ashes Of Creation drama goes nuclear as the new owners sue Steven J Sharif.

In the lawsuit they claim Steven was:

• Effectively embezzling funds (taking money from investors for his own use)
• Mixing business and personal funds
• Bought a property with Intrepid's funds but when sold personally kept the money
• Used loans as revenue to get bigger loans

This is all obviously just allegations at the moment and are not proven. The lawsuit is TFE Game Holdings Vs Steven J Sharif and John Moore.

Another bombshell happened when an Ashes Of Creation investor, Jason Caramanis spoke with youtuber NefasQS.

He appears to share private texts and conversations surrounding the game.

The texts appear to show many years of Steven and Jason talking with Steven appearing to somewhat "love bomb" Jason when asking for more investment.

We await Steven's side of the story but this all seems incredibly messy at the moment. One investor is set to have lost upwards of $90 million.

[arctic jungle]

So thats it? The game is gone?

[plush coyote]

no I'm starting AoC2 it's going to be greater than ANYTHING we've seen before! Just donate to my kickstarter for AoC2 it's going to be GLORIOUS!!!!

[karmic shard]

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY STEVEN!

[crisp galleon]

Ashes of CREMATION!

[hasty girder]

the people trying to create a private server are trying to steal the game away from you guys and the owner

[slim trellis]

Is Steven Jew by any chance?

[devout elbow]

wait this GARBAJ CANCELLED WHAT?!? I put so muich faith in to the development of this game just for them to cancel it after a month and get OVERWHELMINGLY NEGATIVE on steam HAHAHAHa these devs must be so embarrassed Im actually disgusted. I hope all the poor people who paid for this get full refunds for this scam. You poor souls I truly hope ur reimbursed for this crime thats insane.

[raw wedge]

Why does this server still exist? Like, it's kind of funny to see what people are up but realistically for whoever owns this now there's like 0 benefit to have this on lol

[sinful birch]

When official release is scheduled?

[serene patio]

Steven is sucking some d nowon top for 140m that he scamed

[whole swan]

Devs are good guys, Steven is piece of 💩 who mismanaged the company and fucked up everybody

[neat wave]

I'm slightly surprised. Why hasn't @idle siren added the word "refund" to a word filter/insta ban?

Also, you've destroyed the reputation of people who are into MLM.

[ocean saddle]

It’s gonna be up for the next 2-3 months. Some company is interested in the game tho. Have you ever played ELYON? It’s a game that shutdown too. It was up for 2-3 months from the release and just shutdown.

AoC is much better and it has a great potential hopefully the company that’s interested in it buys the rights.

[ornate dune]

i still laugh at this investors putting million into a fantasy game instead of the stockmarket/crypto^^ how stupid you have to be to think, thats a better investment over the years. Rich people are so dumb ICANT

[hushed ibex]

The servers are nearing shutdown, effectively killing the game. Investors are likely to pursue legal action against Steven over mismanagement and related claims. The intellectual property is now considered too volatile. high risk with minimal upside. Making acquisition by another company highly unlikely. The Discord has been effectively abandoned.. this is the end of this MMO. Everyone loses here pretty hard. Just glad I watched from the side line and follow my policy which is only buy finished products. This avoids all this mess.

[celest patio]

Some rich people just want to invest in something that would simply bring them joy

[mellow bay]

SERVER ARE ON?

[stray sundial]

https://youtu.be/IQOTjfCIS3g

[fading zenith]

After 3 attempts, I finally managed to request a refund through Steam's human customer service. Just a heads-up, if you request a refund, it usually goes through an automated system!!!

[visual cipher]

Uhh yeah, I have a question. How dare you?

[paper snow]

Guys don’t try to refund it via refund system try to make a question and ask them nicely I got a refund via human support but I got denied via refund system

[karmic lava]

IF YOU BOUGHT VIA PAYPAL, DISPUTE WITH PAYPAL

the case will rule in your favor

[opaque scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UbFGhQcbUk&list=RD2UbFGhQcbUk&start_radio=1

[rose whale]

yall still on here cryin even after the fact.🫡 🤡 ☠️ 🤣

[true sentinel]

According to an article i read steven still has control of the discord so idk if slowmode will ever be turned off.

[ivory plank]

i dont know he didnt quit the discord server or why none of the mods let us speak

[white prawn]

https://x.com/daddyskinscsgo/status/2023070155861823854?s=12

[sacred gulch]

I did not recieve my beetle mount yet. What the frickity frick is going on here guys

[granite seal]

Some deadly boys

[whole swan]

Yes, wanna group for OAK?

[turbid jackal]

Anyone taking bets on how long the servers will last?

[gilded river]

@idle siren don't worry, there will be a lot of hungry men the place YOU going. hahahah🍆

[whole ether]

They really got it good didn’t they? Where’s mr billionaire gamer at? I cannot for the life of me imagine what it feels like to have the whole gaming community (apart from this cesspool of a discord) look at you in disgust. What a pathetic man. Begging for money, being told on to his mom, calling other grown men „gods” How pathetic can you get?

[idle comet]

Good to see ya'll still having a meltdown. Great entertainment 😂

[mighty vector]

I need my refund cause the game is dying and so I paid for nothing so can you explain me how to have my refund plz, thank you so much!

[frank plume]

Steeeeeee-ven. You cuck!

[brittle prism]

I’m changing my name to lil yerky

[warped fulcrum]

Refunds not possible. Thanks for your donation.

[static pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-just-an-alpha-alpha-aoc-ashes-of-creation-narc-gif-18352000415907499891

[raven geode]

@idle siren why are you scamming people?!

[stoic hull]

Bro. If for some reason he finds you special enough to answer this when he hasn't to people he has known for years, you will be ascended to a god tier status. Otherwise why waste time? Go play a fun game.

[zinc shard]

Well, if anyone wants a game with proven track record and likes the space theme then thay should check EVE Online: https://www.eveonline.com/signup?invc=010eba41-ec45-4c77-bd12-8628166c3113

If you want to give it a try and should you have any questions you can hit me up and ill try my best to help you out.

[flint vapor]

https://youtu.be/urjMdiHEMcQ?si=FuEKK5_QbuiJJAkQ

[hushed ibex]

So is the kicker starter money really to fight off legal battles with investors that he ripped off? Cause that's what it seems since he didn't pay his developers.

[karmic lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRV4gXU6bk4

[void hamlet]

@karmic lava A chargeback on steam typically leads to immediate termination of any account it's associated with. its a good way if you want to quickly lose your whole account and use of it.

[fringe drift]

i just did what you said and now my paypal is banned. thanks a lot bro 🫃

[dense yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=060djk6N4Is looks nice ;o he scammed everyone xD

[thin flax]

Has Steven finally left the chat? :p

[sterile tiger]

I wonder if Steven will be able to walk around safely after this.

Wouldn't be surprised if someone he scammed recognizes him, would take the chance to fuck him up 😂

[crimson crypt]

thank god my country have laws in favour of the costumers 🙏

[austere cipher]

@sterile tiger Hes probably hiding in a different country so unlikely we get some good street justice or justice at all rofl

[swift void]

Swiggity Swooty I am coming for my money 🙂

[sullen peak]

what has happened regarding the development? I have yet to find a full explanation

[karmic shard]

https://tenor.com/view/benjamins-benjammins-cashapp-me-give-me-my-money-give-my-money-gif-16439176635845331003

[north citrus]

who is in charge right now?what will happen to this game and the Company itself?

[grave kiln]

I’ve tried requesting a refund 3 times from steam and have been denied everytime /:

[honest reef]

Steven they are onto you. They know you stole the money from Kickstarter, and yeah they aren’t happy.

[stuck folio]

How many licks to get to the center of a man's aszhole @idle siren knows

[rigid vale]

Great - 2 months after i finally decided to buy the Alpha.. RIP 💀

[south bison]

https://youtu.be/urjMdiHEMcQ?si=k9OeBedAi4HoGedI

Good watch. Join a class action lawsuit!!!

[fickle latch]

[need source code]

[valid vault]

hi new to here just bought the game any tipps?

[dim sky]

lvl oak till 17

[tawdry plinth]

Where is this class action lawsuit at?

[sharp pasture]

id like in on that 2

[dim lichen]

can i be someones husband and not show up on at work and get paid by thier company for 6 mil? i could retire on that and live.. i live a simple life i want to keep it simple and just retire and relax. #LookingForSugarDaddyScammerSteven

[signal haven]

im still playing i got full legendary endgame armor while yall gone i will kill everyone when the game comes back 😈

[fluid zodiac]

would recommend checking out this new player guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZRSw_YSSjA

[tiny vale]

надеюсь этого петушка что кинул комьюните на кажут

[limber iris]

If it comes back there will be a wipe and that lego armor you have.. POOF - gone. lol

[crisp galleon]

https://youtu.be/urjMdiHEMcQ?si=NGZrwPo_vzeoZ0uR

[undone shuttle]

Hello when is the game releasing?

[grand compass]

Subject: A Diamond in the Rough: Can the Community Save Ashes of Creation from Corporate Ego?

Ashes of Creation community, putting aside the administrative blunders Intrepid has made recently, we cannot forget the years of soul-driven development that went into this game—work we’ve been able to experience from the early days through Alpha 2.

Beyond the company's current internal crisis and the scandal unfolding behind the scenes, I want to ask: Is the only alternative to let the game die? I’m writing from Argentina, and while I’m not an expert on U.S. law, based on the legal information available, it seems tragic. Is there really no player base capable of making an offer? A buyout clause where the egos of two people—willing to destroy everything—are sidelined so a "white knight" can step in and defend a game with such massive potential?

This game is a diamond in the rough. I’ve played for 210 hours; I’m nearly 40 years old and have played MMORPGs my whole life. Strategically speaking, could a purchase clause not offer a percentage of future profits to the current IP holder, while making a larger contribution now? We all know what’s likely to happen: iDreamSky might take it for nothing, and we all lose what could have been one of the best games of the century.

What do you think? From a legal standpoint, is there a better exit strategy than losing the game entirely? If Dawson and Sharif are going to fight until their last breath, they are forgetting the community in the middle. The total investment could be recovered in 3 or 4 years of live service. I believe a system of cosmetics or a $5 monthly membership would be supported by a captive audience just to see the game reach a Beta 1.0 state.

If millions were raised on Kickstarter, and considering that even with bad reviews, Steam sales in the first two months could be valued at millions (even after commissions), my proposal isn't unrealistic. What are your thoughts on this?

[rough oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8USYqAN99k

[fringe drift]

what's a good mmo to play that isn't wow, bdo, eso, guild wars, project gorgon, quinfall or runescape?

[main nexus]

Im wondering. Since AoC is basically a dead game, are there any restarts or maintenances? 😄

[tough pulsar]

https://suno.com/s/1WoHniENYlzeSFsf

ASHES OF CREMATIOOOOOON

[somber kernel]

We still alive

[blazing magnet]

just stick with guild wars 2

[past bolt]

dead game

[crystal ice]

mortal online 2 will welcome all of you 😄

[dapper jungle]

has @idle siren fled the country yet? to save himself?

[neat wave]

Nah, he's looking forward to meeting Big Bubba.

[candid rain]

nah i think he still is in talk with tencent for financing

[ornate dune]

i can imagine the joy of losing 80 milly.. must be superfun. I bet, this guy cant wait to lose another 80 milly cause its so fun losing money.. stopid

[odd quail]

lawyer talking about ashes, i think the new boss is robert dawson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urjMdiHEMcQ

[fierce hound]

His name is Robert Dawson! His name is Robert Dawson!!

[broken lance]

AND HIS NAME IS JOHN DAWSON! I MEAN ROBERT CENA! I MEAN

[rugged gale]

does anyone have any super glue? MY DICK JUST FELL OFF

[pallid wren]

let me in damn itttt T_T

[native spoke]

can u still pley

[fringe drift]

I almost got kidnapped today by Steven🫃

[stone panther]

Eve

[mortal spear]

So the game is still running, where is everyone? Just went into it and no one there but it is still playable? Has everyone given up?

[whole swan]

what's a good mmo to play that isn't wow, bdo, eso, guild wars, project gorgon, quinfall or runescape?

One of my favorite mmos was Lineage 2

Still waiting for answers

[tawdry plinth]

i've seen people suggesting Lord of the Rings Online

[hearty bough]

lotro is great 🙂 highly reccomend

[normal anchor]

Darkfall: Rise of Agon (If you’re into open world PvP)

[north citrus]

Is there any good news about this game?

[frosty vale]

The Customer support appears to be very busy with the Alpha II. I sent my ticket 3 weeks ago.

[vocal ravine]

anyone got a bag of copium to sell, I ran out and need a hit

[wanton charm]

i hope that this scumbag of steven shariff get the worst of the possible brain cancer and that every money he stole will be spent on useless medical treatment 🙂

[edgy sage]

got my account locked because of asking for refunds

[whole hound]

Mamaste

[wheat ice]

classic steam.. I will never buy anything from them again. I will prefer a better platform

[slim trellis]

You are delusional

[versed kernel]

Project Gorgon is actually a great indie MMORPG with a really heart felt story behind it. Problem is its meant for PvErs/Life skillers/Social butterflies. Its the old school equivalent of ffxiv

[bronze meadow]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tawdry plinth]

I wonder how the 5 people who paid $10,000 for the kickstarter pledge are feeling right now.

[whole swan]

that's more like it

[whole ether]

I bet he’s reading these and shitting his pants at moms house. feels so good to know how fucked he is

[midnight spruce]

FF14!

[stone panther]

EVE

[grim solar]

EVE Online

[vivid oasis]

Im nostalgia waiting for Maplestory Classic

[fringe drift]

private server should be ready before GTA6

[hasty girder]

no news is good news for now

[twin arch]

whats up with the floating dead ppl in cities lmaao

[sly monolith]

someone farted in this channel

[trim flume]

hello dead gayme

[calm ferry]

Check Out Mortal Online 2 there is an NA continent coming soom tm one server and the servers for the different regions are connected as one so everyone plays together. No quests just a sandbox.

[neon stirrup]

Ty god I bought it with paypal steam refused like 6 times but because it was in a 3 months period paypal got me da moni

[fluid yacht]

mprtal online 2 died before it released too

[void hamlet]

Have fun with your permanent terminated Steam Account, imagine being happy about $40 and losing thousends of $$ forever 😄

[scarlet agate]

Hello all, Stephen Sharron here and I'm currently making a new MMO entitled "Cinders of Beginnings" for a low $10,000 USD investment you can get in on the ground floor of a revolutionary MMO experience.

[languid forum]

I know a lot of money was lit on fire and that it was a scam but imagine how good the game could have been with a real development team

LELENA the dev team was in no way good 250 devs couldn’t push an update

[ember willow]

Well thats the sad part, it did have a decent dev team, it was admin at fault not the devs

[graceful lava]

Wen refund?

[summer flame]

Nobody cares about your opinions you are a liar

[crimson tinsel]

Your taxes are due...

[tame palm]

just ripped a stinkerrrrr

[prime portal]

1.jpg

[fringe drift]

He too old to be Steven

[dire vector]

i just think it's sad and cowardice how this all took place. no official word from the investors or steven is really lame.

[granite loom]

Hello guys, I have heard some rumors that this game might be shutting down. I really enjoyed it, is there any information if the game will continue or not?

[stray sundial]

game isnt even playable , non interactive NPCMOBS , desperate attempt move on its dead , @granite loom its already shutdown

[hoary kite]

So, when does the game release?

[honest reef]

Steven, did you get my email about the refund?

[bronze meadow]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[crystal ice]

Hello there,

I understand your concern about the game.

To help you out, as a Customer Service gesture, the purchase has been removed from the account and a credit has been applied to your Steam Wallet. The credit can be used for future Steam purchases.

Your current Steam Wallet balance is displayed in the top right hand corner of the Steam client window next to your account name.

If you'd like to request a refund for a qualifying purchase in the future, please do so at https://help.steampowered.com/

Detailed Instructions on Submitting a Request

Steam Support
Nat got my refund thank you steam always a goat and Mortal online 2 is not a dead game been working and doing great for years just gotta be good at gaming 😄

[past bolt]

fake

[broken lance]

r u sure? Looks real to me

[sweet kestrel]

Downloading rn, at 74%. Can't wait to get in. I used to play blade master in a previous MMO. Does anyone know a similar class like that for this game? Ty

[graceful gust]

Steven "Sharif" is Arab, not Jewish, just fyi

[vivid roost]

Is he not the bad guy? Check out the court documents

[modest arch]

mo2 is a shit game haha

[static pulsar]

@idle siren wtf did you got yourself into?

[neon stirrup]

Weird because it’s not the first time I refunded something from paypal in steam and I can acces my account play and have a warning like last one that eventually disappears + 41 euros back

[slim trellis]

Hi! Any recommendations for a new player? 🙂

[whole swan]

that's more realistic view

[strong dock]

Even new world looks better😂😂

[sterile delta]

Well Ashes is an out right scam so that’s a pretty low bar lol

[dapper jungle]

i dont think he be so sad about this

[eternal cloak]

Steven scammer

[ancient egret]

new info on the situation and stevens response thru a lawsuite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTUgBvWy6TM its on kira channel if you dont trust the link

[lost hare]

is the game coming back

[timber moss]

yes under ashes of intrepid (owned by tencent)

[ornate mesa]

The discord background picture looks like wrothgar from ESO, so whos going off to play that?

[plush coyote]

I think this is xd

[silent marsh]

Only if you ask nicely

[versed kernel]

Steven Shecklestein stole the sheckles certified big nose tribe

[void hamlet]

a "refund" is not a chargeback

[neon stirrup]

Okey

[tranquil birch]

Just bought this game, when does it fully release?

[iron lily]

What's the latest on the game? Are people still playing it? Will there be a beta release?

[thin flax]

Theyre too busy working on the script for The Wolf of Wallstreet 2

[karmic lava]

yeah and a taxi isn't an uber

[ashen sleet]

WTF are u guys still doing here ????????,

[covert saddle]

https://steamcharts.com/app/4124950 but guys there are still people playing. we can save it. /s

[visual forum]

@idle siren …you trying to sue the people who exposed you…you already revealed yourself in the 39 pages.

[true surge]

hey did the studio shut down completely?

[fringe drift]

@idle siren Do you like Kanon? 😳 👉 👈

[granite seal]

Bet this guy is in the Epstein files too

[tidal kraken]

This game is not happening, is it…?

[royal musk]

I don't think so :/

[strong dock]

This is why it ended

[sweet rock]

You little FUCKTARDS. I just wanted to play a good game. Go private server this piece of shit.

[tawdry plinth]

Where is the class action sign up? I want my $2!

[fervent granite]

https://youtu.be/ml6swHQ_p5U?si=faYg88BQihHJwvL6

[ember verge]

nothing new yet?

[broken lance]

Why does Steven keep removing my silly discord posts? :<

[brittle prism]

I wonder if it’s shutting down bc I opened my umbrella in my house that one time

[bronze meadow]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sweet kestrel]

6h cooldown 😢 . might be the longest i've ever seen

[versed geyser]

why are the servers down?

[wheat ice]

Never. This game is scam

[silent marsh]

yeah they destroyed our special moment, I can't believe this

[devout elbow]

are people getting their refunds yet from these demons

[hot garnet]

A toast to AoC!

[split roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021352507122917406/1272462533177118801/image.gif

[elder wraith]

If you or a loved one is affected with HHS (Horrible Hairline Syndrome) please contact your nearest social worker's association. You may qualify to get someone to shave that shit off of you. No hair is better than seeing 60% of your foreheard. Many survivors stand with you, and your ugly ugly mug.

[heady tangle]

From one graveyard to another

[still patrol]

shure

[tribal jewel]

Can only encourage folks to check out other games in the meantime. It's going to be a while before all this mess settles down.

[vagrant parcel]

https://dkp-manager.com Dkp system for guilds

[carmine agate]

WTF why is Macron here ?

[earnest briar]

Guys I am in the process of building a time machine. We can go back in time, and prevent all the bad things from happening.

I need you to help me do this.

All it takes is Believing!- Believe in me and it will become a reality! we will not only save AOC! but the world!

[slim trellis]

Often hope is born when all is forlorn

[empty vapor]

Anyone know if you can get a refund on an alpha key?

[frosty vale]

Many people already have. Ask Steam if you bought alpha access from steam or your creditcard provider if you bought from Ashes website.

[errant remnant]

I tried to ask steam but they are refusing it due to the amount of hours played... like 60h

[sturdy crag]

If you bought on steam you just need to get to a real person. They refunded me regardless of playtime. Just go to account and click the game. Then go to open support ticket. Fuck Steven.

[north citrus]

is this you?

[broken lance]

The true scam was the frens we made along the way

[nocturne sandal]

I played for 10 hours and bout it om the day of release. The refused my refund at first but after i spoke to a real person I got my refund the next day.

[wild swallow]

Sent Steven a msg saying they going too find yoooou

[brittle prism]

Brother do not care if his name is “beat goku” and his ability is “beats goku” from the show”that time I beat Goku” he ain’t beating goku

[iron kindle]

How long till the xpack is out

[true surge]

hello how to get money reversed i want my 46$ i spent for the game thats gone after two weeks steam isnt refunding me cause i had it since december

[sour thunder]

#1469246951504482335 message

[rancid vale]

Is the game done or are they still planning to develop it?

[fluid zodiac]

it's completely done

[velvet scarab]

I'm a Big Tymer playa, yeah, gun sprayer, yeah
A playa hata flipper, yeah, grave filla, yeah
Girl you look good wontchu back datbazz up

[lucid crystal]

https://imgur.com/CmwFC4f

[hasty girder]

no one knows other than one investor who wants to save the game but it’s not his decision. it’s prolly better they finish the game , if they sell the game they will for sure lose a ton of money but there is a chance to get it back if they succeed

[tawny arrow]

Da im sera f ostata az na tez investori

[balmy juniper]

a 6hr slowmode setting is comical. what is the purpose of making it that long? as if there is a need to control traffic. lol

[plush coyote]

no need AoC is perfect as it is ❤️ much love Stevie xoxo ❤️ ❤️ AoC 4 everr

[sturdy crag]

From the UK makes sense. You cucks love getting stepped on.

[weary jolt]

degenerate

[hidden glen]

Anyone else noticed a TON of MMO related videos are no longer available on youtube?

[rugged hill]

How can I buy this game on Steam? I can't add to cart

[river rapids]

So did the devs just leave the discord or whats up
(I know the news, just wondering if they stuck around to take ownership at all)

[ocean saddle]

AoC is perfect? I’ve reach 25 as a Cleric playing for 3 days. Yeah it’s perfect if they restart the server fix the aggro glitch and I can really play as a healer to my party.

[fringe root]

Game had no group vs group pvp incentives anyways. Endgame was for mindless zerg play and pve nerds

[broken lance]

wtf r u talking about?

[placid mountain]

mathematically impossible

[dapper topaz]

Just got my refund on Steam \o/. Even with 46 hours recommend all you guys to at least try!

[stark sierra]

Will work for anyone that bought it through Steam.

[zenith elk]

I played 240 hours. Request for refund declined. Went the view receipt route. Still got the same reply, I played over the 2 hour limit, no refund.

[blazing ravine]

I got a refund with like 70 hours played, stay blessed 🙏

[indigo topaz]

~145h played, refunded

[tender flax]

How do I transfer my belongings to my other character on the same account?

[sweet kestrel]

Buy the uninstaller mtx

[fast pulsar]

Is there any way to get a refund through PayPal? That's how I paid Intrepid in April last year.

[haughty fox]

Bro is 100% right. AOC is perfect where it is now.

Dead.

[zealous jewel]

Ngl, all the refunds put through for 200+ hours people make me want to go back to piracy and private servers

[frosty vale]

Most likely there is. A few people have already reported getting their money back from PayPal. Check PayPal instructions for undelivered items, bankrupty, false advertising and faulty products and see what available options fits the best. Or ask them directly.

[hasty girder]

This guy down here says

[knotty hedge]

REALLY???

[raven geode]

@idle siren why are you scamming people?

[high sparrow]

Why are the servers still up

[neat wave]

First time you're missing rent, doesn't mean you're going to get kicked out the next day. It is when procedures start. Will probably take a few months before non-payment creates a situation where the host can disconnect the servers, and start suiing Steven. If they would disconnect now, they would be harming themselfs when going to court.

[crisp halo]

we need Dawson in here to give us the state of the union

[broken lance]

The vibe is real

[wanton sentinel]

Will probably be up until they stop paying their AWS bill. Or what not. I give it a month max.

[winged basalt]

Need coffeezilla

[fringe drift]

Need PewDiePie
Need Andrew Tate
Need Donald Trump
Need Xi Jinping
...
Who else do we need?

[weak temple]

Are servers still up by chance? Nvm read the above

[burnt swift]

I mean they are up, in good working order no, but thats because it required a daily reset to stop the huge packet loss because it was very broken, and its not been reset for weeks so its up. Good luck, it wont be for long

[faint whale]

What did you send them I’ve been trying and nothing keep getting same message

[pliant barn]

pick the option that says i want a manual review of this purchase, not the usual ''i want a refund''

[sharp fern]

why is this game empty

[high lichen]

so if I bought a key for the early access over their website then I am fully screwed?

[raven geode]

@idle siren Why do you love betraying people?!

[haughty fox]

because of profit. who doesnt love fucking over their community for some extra cash

[sand smelt]

Playing Shol and people are still online. Will stop playing until the servers go down. We were only testing it anyway and going to loose it all, so will keep playing until the game servers power bill isnt paid anymore ...

[void pike]

ooo wait, I can still play?

[versed kernel]

nightmare blunt rotation

[indigo topaz]

“Ashes is officially cancelled.
Intrepid, the company that created this game had to notify their company 60 days before dissolution via the WARN act that they did not have the funds to keep the game going. Intrepid will be officially dead as of February 2nd, 2026. This product was launched on Steam at a point in time where the WARN act notifications would have to have been implemented at Intrepid.

In order to circumvent the WARN act, Steven, the owner of the product, is deflecting governance to a non-existent board, pushing out the WARN act notifications to an official date of today, which would be fraudulent.

Intrepid scammed all players by launching this game on Steam to attempt to improve company liquidity. Steam, like the multiple purchasers of this product, was scammed. Please initiate the refund for this product.”

[hasty girder]

Its a bit too soon to say its cancelled, its more like temporarily on-hold. We have to have hope.

[sterile delta]

You’re retarded

[jolly tulip]

https://youtu.be/xWkAM7sfuz0

[broken lance]

@idle siren

[signal haven]

so is there any way for us to donate? with enough donations we can save the company from going bankrupt

[north citrus]

Yes ofc. Give me your money i'll buy company

[snow cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/s/3wHvSuHkdV

[dapper jungle]

lmao, game is dead cant even harvest stuff if you login

[ocean saddle]

Really? First the mobs not getting aggro. Now you can’t harvest? It’s the only fun part of the game right now gathering, processing then crafting.

[vast crescent]

Can you kill mobs?

[hasty girder]

I dont know what he is talking about, i can harvest stuff so maybe its just him. Everything seems to work for me.

[sweet rock]

Guys!!! Pax Dei worth playing??

[languid latch]

No

[signal scroll]

The QuinFall is what everyone playing

[versed kernel]

I tried Quinfall but it's so shit I'm going back to UO

[edgy sage]

Guys, just come play ESO, better than any MMORPG out there.

[hidden glen]

can we just release the town dev. code so we don't have another nemesis system incident

[icy spire]

Nah Project Gorgon is where it's at, if you haven't tried it there is a demo.

[round belfry]

Is the wow killer listed above in the room with us

[broken lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1F192vfsqE

[tall hound]

I sen them a ticket a few days ago, Alpha Two Second Wave Bundle for $110 usd, still no responce

[karmic lava]

OBJECTIVE COMPLETE: REFUND FROM PAYPAL

STEAM ACCOUNT IS FINE (JUST CANT BUY GAMES FOR 4 WEEKS)

The restriction should automatically remove on the indicated date. If you need help with any unrelated issues please let us know.

Steam Support
D****K

[karmic shard]

WHERES MY MONEY STEVEN YOU GAY LORD!

[steady trail]

Code error 37 with my main char but we i do create a new char in same server, isn't. I try all internet alternative. Any have other solution?

[sharp hollow]

server workers are dying left and right. avoid the area you were in previously

[ivory vessel]

What's the chances a big name company will bye ashes and finish it ? Maybe if we do start a petition or something like some fans have for tv shows maybe blizzard or Bethesda might bye it kinda like Netflix? Did it for the show Lucifer because the fan base was strong

[golden bridge]

Absolutely no chance. Intrepid is a complete shitshow with all the legal drama and allegations swirling around it. No serious studio or company would touch it. Anyone telling you otherwise is high on hopium/copium and doesn’t have the knowledge or capital to back it up.

[sweet rock]

🇫 🇺 🇨 🇰 🇸 🇭 🇦 🇷 🇮 🇫

[hollow terrace]

The game wasn’t gonna be successful long term anyways lol

[inner plover]

People kinda ignore the trend line was already downward. It was on the ropes. The drama was just the knockout blow.

[slow vessel]

What is love?

[ocean saddle]

Well WoW became successful just releasing recycled content.

[fringe drift]

💪

[tender flax]

I cannot log in to the server with my character. --- ERROR {37}

[weary lion]

some area's of the map are experiencing technical issues 🙁

[sour plover]

No one to fix it.

[gray osprey]

Need to add born on and dead on dates

[prisma schooner]

yo

[broken lance]

Lucifer sucked, I stopped watching during season 3 because every episode was the fucking same and had shit music. There were some cool parts but it was a huge waste of time waiting for those moments.

@inner plover I blame the fishing update for being the final blow.

[signal haven]

we are on the side of steven once the real truth comes out steven will sue every hater for defamation and will use that money to fund the game

[elder wraith]

The only game Steven and John Moore will be a part of is Asses of Creation in the state penitentiary

[wet narwhal]

hey, im getting error code 37 when i select play at the character screen, i just verified files, and it still didnt work. any idea how to fix it?

[dire prawn]

Will sue for yacht

[subtle yacht]

nah. Maybe in the last couple of years but not at the start or addon 1-3

[inner plover]

Seems your character logged off in an area that is broken now. You may need to create a new character.

[sweet rock]

🇫 🇺 🇨 🇰 🇸 🇭 🇦 🇷 🇮 🇫

[thin flax]

Let's create a bet: how long will Steven spend in prison (days)? 5 bucks to enter. Winner takes home 50% and 50% goes to the devs who weren't paid.

[neat bear]

Hey there, i'm looking for an UI DESIGNER, anyone here free to work ?

[warm bison]

does anybody still believe i still believe in aoc comeback

[ocean saddle]

It might take a year or 2 tho. Federal lawsuits takes time.

[round belfry]

https://www.twitch.tv/armegontv

[clever thorn]

hello, is there a reason there are less players than a few weeks ago? it seems like the population is rapidly falling off, i used to see a few people here and there but now it seems like a single player game?

[lilac crown]

I think a second or third Kickstarter campaign could finish this game.

[dire osprey]

0 the game is cooked and if it does continue development it won't be anything like what was imagined.

[iron oasis]

Shariff made an update post

[hasty girder]

you can’t say there is no chance when you don’t really know.

[fast canopy]

https://youtu.be/QkqRAcvwXC0?si=aptKkE4QvcYWazUX

[fossil rose]

An error occurred

Tracking and viewing Activity stats requires the Data+ upgrade.

[fringe drift]

This is fake and AI. Steven Sharif likes men.

[slim trellis]

Hello i cant log into the game, is something happening?

[dim knoll]

this is a true statement. his ex husband was the Finance director for Intrepid

[final oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/ladyboy-lady-boy-thailand-thai-gif-10789193567627073542

[zealous folio]

gay jew. classic

[broken lance]

@pastel jewel I summon the froggies to bring the happy

[dim lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-eating-popcorn-keith-morrison-dateline-snl-gif-25666169

[ocean saddle]

No more code 37 game won’t even launch now 🙁

[versed kernel]

Guys here's my dog.

[golden bridge]

🤡

[sonic peak]

Come to Play NEW WORLD. Let's enjoy Game

[tribal jewel]

Das cute af

[honest gust]

New world is dead too man :/

[dire prawn]

WOULD

Also, Gyattdayum 6 hour timeout between each message. Y'all tryna kill the discord? lol.

[restive pivot]

Nobody can create private server of ashes of creation?😔

[teal robin]

so wtf happened here 😂 🤡

[undone sparrow]

I heard they are working on a emulator for it

[dapper jungle]

they have it done...

[spiral hedge]

🤣 😂 🤣 😂

[hard imp]

The amount of cope-hope about future kickstarters or acquisitions to finish this game is proof the community hasn't felt enough pain yet. Apparently you all need to be fully bled of your money before you realize the error of your ways. Pathetic

[icy basin]

so if you don't spend any money on it but believe the game will be completed, are you being bled? also, I don't believe the game is gonna get finished, I'm just curious

[brave ocean]

Relax, Kira told us it's all a big misunderstanding and it'll be made clear eventually. 🤣

[quartz terrace]

I cant get into the launcher so how do I delete the game now? Or do i first have to link it with steam and then delete it?

[broken lance]

There is no delet, u r stuck with ur choices forever 🗿

[pseudo knoll]

Hello <@&542059693779058748> ,
Not sure if you have any news related to Ashes and the "future".
Asking to ensure which way the players need to be, we were supposed to had some news on 13th February (10 days ago).

[woven kettle]

Sadly not! 🙁

[versed kernel]

We did get news on the 13th. Check NefasHQ on yt

[graceful spade]

So we all going to RS3?

[bleak girder]

Here’s a picture of my cat. Her name is Lexi.

[sonic peak]

What should we do? I'm not gonna back to wow anymore

[old thicket]

ESO, guild wars 2 or other older MMOs? or try other genres... there are other online games that can be fun...

[tawdry swallow]

I can break rules now yes?

[runic palm]

Thinking about searching for community SWG server again 😛 i do miss the olden days , hunting space scum in my AEG-77 Vigo

[pastel forge]

Lets all play UO again

[brave ocean]

We should all just post our pets until they shut this down. Here's my cat Moogles.

[sacred sigil]

Any crafters on?

[hasty girder]

https://aa-classic.com/

[upbeat basin]

When is 1.0 launching? I’m waiting to use all my saved vacation time. I can’t wait. Also any word on when we will get to use our founder skins in-game? I got so many awesome ones for only $2,100 USD. Great deal

[whole hound]

Whoever thinks a new kickstarter campaign is the best option for the game might aswell burn their money on a fireplace

[void hamlet]

still trolling a month after shutdown....?

[graceful gust]

Weird, the global chat feels more alive than that lol, is this NA?

[whole hound]

That's only steam sales, the majority of people bought alpha/beta access

[tardy topaz]

Everyone who purchased alpha/beta were forced to use steam to play. The alpha/beta launcher no longer worked after released to steam.

[haughty fox]

I was able to refund a copy of AOC I gifted to someone else :D

[worthy yoke]

Well guys here we are in the ashes of their creation

[crisp saddle]

yo, are servers still up?

[coral vault]

Barely. Most towns are corrupted to a point you can't log in

[acoustic brook]

some server worker is down in lotharia i can't log in riverland but i can creat a new cara on anvil.

[vivid oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/wheres-my-money-stewie-family-guy-gif-11323749

[compact breach]

Is there a link to some sort of explanation of what happened?

[ancient egret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1wQeYcxc6s

[quartz terrace]

WTF is this so just deleting all files in my library is the way to go then?

[stuck folio]

Druuuuuuuugs are for coooool kids

[sleek lotus]

The problem is not that it's a scam or they don't have a functional game. The problem is most likely that investors wants the game devs and CEO to put in a lot of p2w elements to balance out the sheet now that it's launched. CEO doesn't want to do that so he resigned, causing a chain reaction and fallout of the entire project

[compact heart]

ur braindead

[full marten]

there is stuff all over the internet now from people that researched the tax/loan information. its not looking good for stephen.

[turbid jay]

LMAO, have you been living under a rock? Seriously like wtf

[lament depot]

Terminal amount of copium

[honest reef]

So, is the server still running?

[static pulsar]

servers still up?

[slim trellis]

Hey when is this game coming out?

[ocean helm]

servers up?

[ancient egret]

<@&542059693779058748> no idea if you still got the power to yeet but figured this was worth a yeet XD

[stuck folio]

WHy haven't we deleted this discord yet

[woven kettle]

👀

[viral torrent]

define "we"

[covert saddle]

Hi guys. Soooo when is version 1 releasing? Haha jk. Lets make a clone of Ashes of Creation. Alpha forever ashes of alpha version 0.0001

[broken lance]

So funniee jolk

[scarlet aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alPIi5O3BN8 look up here

[tawny arrow]

@covert saddle funny dupa jolk deiba....

[high sparrow]

Anyone wanna start an oak lvling group

[echo bolt]

@slim trellis not likely company is in foreclosure and massive lawsuits has been filed against the founder and his husband. So unless someone obtains the IP its dead in the water 🙁

[vale elk]

<@&542059693779058748>

[solar nebula]

Lol

[late zephyr]

<@&542059693779058748> Does anyone have any idea how to reset the servers? They still somewhat work, but more bugs keep creeping in.

[turbid jay]

they wont be reset. no one pays the bills or works there

[south bluff]

As soon as the AWS bill doesn't get renewed, servers will go down. So sad.

[gray osprey]

the moderators are just volunteers moderating this server and have nothing to do with the game

[mortal ermine]

Game still dying?

[solar nebula]

There, I reset the servers lol

[short flint]

<@&542059693779058748> this is a good delete too

[vast crescent]

Did you guys know you can buy Ashes game key from WoW shop =). Thats how there's so many new players joining the servers =^_^=. I hear its pretty cheap.

[sharp shell]

still code37!!!

[visual forum]

Did they shut down servers yet?

[ancient egret]

he is trolling lol mods dont have the power to reset the servers XD

[honest gust]

Try Reinstall the Game 👀

[red flame]

Gloria victis soon

[honest reef]

Did the refunds start going out?

[royal condor]

No refunds, "Quiet Termination"
Servers go dark
IP sits unused
Assets are written off
This is how most MMOs end.

[rough mulch]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/327070/view/509606585808453872

[coral vault]

Even if someone obtains the ip. The game will probably fail. Its tainted at this point

[ocean saddle]

Many crybabies will comeback bro hahaha. Hopefully the one who stayed and didn't refund the game gets lifetime subs if they chose to do the monthly subscription.

[strong dock]

75 players playing right now 😄

[ivory needle]

So did they ever do the dev video for the 13th? Or did they just go dark and not even try to lie anymore?

[frigid summit]

dev video was never going to happen because their aren't any devs to give it, nor were their any people with access to post it wasnt going to happen

[languid forum]

Can I buy ashes of creation gold now?

[solar nebula]

Lol

Its probably cheap

[ocean saddle]

I was one of them.

[verbal pecan]

Hopefully someone buys it pennies on the dollar and maybe makes it a community led project or something, doubtful but would be cool

[mortal obsidian]

🇨 🇴 🇵 🇪

[plush torrent]

Tell everyone here that you have no clue about what was going on.

[honest reef]

Wow, somehow Marathon is worse overall as a game than Ashes was, and yet...it's not shutdown yet, but maybe...

[ivory needle]

That the game was a scam got my refund and occasionally come back here to poke the corpse with a stick

[signal haven]

then who is going to tell them

[broken lance]

<@&542059693779058748> I see my comment yesterday really affected you. Really puts things in perspective doesn’t it? The truth is a bitch and unfortunately no one will be honest with you like I am. If you reject criticism you’re unwilling to better yourself in life. Simple as. :3

[shadow bluff]

Don't know what comment you made, but just enjoy the internet like the rest of us.

Don't need to make it a miserable place.

[rain sigil]

Can I get a refund?

[frosty vale]

Yes but you might need to press the issue multiple times.

[formal mauve]

Все игра окончательно померла? В steamdb уже несколько дней 61 человек видимо это глюк. Поздравляю все кто вкинул больше 50 долларов.

[plush coyote]

why would u ever refund this MASTERPIECE

[lusty hill]

Fair thee well everyone all the best going forward in your future endeavors. I have my refund so ima head out.

[whole swan]

If anyone is trying to get refund. It is possible through paypal if you bought your game on official site in the past 6 months

I bought the game on 2025 september 15

[glacial marsh]

what actually happened

[tight prism]

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[sly monolith]

how come my shit is green when taking a dump?

[hazy slate]

You ate Cap’n Crunch with Crunch Berries?

[covert saddle]

If you ever want to know why poo is different colors ask an AI. Make it do the dirty work.

[slim trellis]

Green is the colour of life, your shit is alive!! ALIIIIVE!!

[sterile palm]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-who-are-you-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20788418

[broken lance]

I’m some guy that speaks dangerously enough to get silenced almost immediately by your team. Who are you? Someone that needs to remind people that he’s a he/him?

[sterile palm]

K.

[sweet rock]

Go ahead and ban me you scamming cucks

[frigid stump]

Dear Steam Support Team,

I am requesting a refund for Ashes of Creation due to extraordinary circumstances related to the sudden collapse of the developer, Intrepid Studios, as of February 1, 2026.

This is not a standard refund request based on gameplay preference or dissatisfaction, but a report of a broken promise and an effectively abandoned Early Access product.

Reason for this request:

Studio Closure
It has been widely reported that Intrepid Studios has ceased operations. Senior leadership has resigned, and the development team has been laid off, with WARN Act notices issued.

Abandoned Early Access Product
Ashes of Creation was sold as an Early Access title with the explicit promise of continued development and future delivery of core features. With the studio dissolving, development has permanently halted, and the advertised product will never be completed.

Loss of Product Viability
Without an active development team, the game’s servers are expected to shut down or become non-functional, rendering the product completely unplayable.

I respectfully ask Valve to treat this case similarly to previous precedents, such as The Day Before, where refunds were issued due to studio closure and false or unfulfilled advertising shortly after release.

Given these circumstances, I request a manual review of this purchase, as the product is now effectively defunct and no longer deliverable as sold.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

^^^^Put this in your refund request

[ocean saddle]

Waited 5 years for ashes to be release, best MMO I've played since Cabal Online, DragonNest and RAN Online. Hopefully someone wins already so the game can move on. I think they still gonna go through with this after all that's happened, they might relaunch the game or some big company buys it like RIOT.

[vale elk]

doesnt work confirmed by me

[drowsy delta]

Haven’t been here for a while, but did anyone that bought keys get a refund? And if so how

[little python]

HELLO?! IS ANYONE HERE?!

[frosty vale]

Yes, there have been a few reports of getting refund either from Paypal or your credit card provider.
I also have a request in progress with my card provider claiming "undelivered digital purchase" for the preorder pack that came with some cosmetics thst were never added into the game as well as "false advertising" and "faulty product" regarding to the Alpha 2 key.

[shadow oak]

hey guiz when iz servber cum back up??

[stray current]

Server up. I am in Samia's Hope now and was doing some starting quests. Just don't try to travel far or your character gets bricked. Just chillin' watching the day cycle and listening to the music.

[dawn jolt]

Why?

[timid quail]

Can't wait to play this game once it releases

[fiery estuary]

So can an official company rep let me know how I get my $400 refund for the game not actually launching or advise if small claims is my appropriate venue for resolution on that matter? Thanks. Because at this juncture I will pursue this matter legally if I am not refunded. And I significantly doubt you have the drive or desire to fly a lawyer out to defend it. Go ahead and PM me for details at your earliest convenience.

[desert ivy]

What "official company rep"? The company is gone, there are no employees

[plush coyote]

you're just making a clown of yourself lol, ask for a refund via "ask for a question" and that's it lol. If you go via refund you typing that love story won't mean sh1t since a bot will automatically deny it, noone is reading it if you're 2h+ or 14days past purchase
although if ppl still havent refunded then idk, kinda crazy that steam would still play along with it

[soft pollen]

I'm so ready for the AoC release! 😮

[paper plinth]

No official updates?

Is the servers still running?

[slim trellis]

In the making by Stevan Shiref

[austere vortex]

it looks like ass

[nocturne cypress]

Dude. The game launched. Take your L and move on.

[acoustic brook]

Discord steven?

[sterile palm]

Y'all... Don't click links you don't trust, 3 of you got hit by the spambot

[broken lance]

^dont listen to this wisenheimer, click errylink erryday

[latent cave]

who are you to tell me what to do? i paid for optic fibre, ill use the bandwitch to full, clicking all the links i see

[sterile palm]

Don't do it. They aren't real Hot Milfs in your area.

[strange brook]

..

[raw wedge]

You can't just give code to new developers and expect them to continue like they know it. This is never going to happen based on what I've seen.

[wide storm]

Steven i want my money back

[ocean saddle]

They might hire the devs who were laid off. Probably gonna be a better game with a bigger funding.

[stray current]

Maybe someone will hire the devs and the game will rise from the Ashes. Get the gang back together, have some fun!

[sweet kestrel]

steve, wrong account

[proud terrace]

What class is the most fun for endgame and pvp? Looking to swap since I don't like my current class

[desert gulch]

Nah, they don't own the ip

[raw wedge]

They didn't pay them... why would they come back after that?

[sullen relic]

What code this is an asset flip. I'm sure the AI copy paste they had to do will not be that difficult to read. These devs did nothing in 10 years a small team of a solo couldn't do

[crimson tinsel]

Your Taxes are due...

[latent lake]

why are they touching the dicks

[round belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-jetstream-sam-i-should-commit-tax-fraud-gif-16436631914686732084

[wispy harness]

This game didnt die?

[blissful wren]

Another game dead because of greed.

[runic mango]

Hey guys you think the MTX cosmetics are still worth buying? Might be able to sell my account with rare MTX someday!
(Discord sarcasm font when??)

[tribal jewel]

No. Don't buy into anything right now, please

Intrepid's effectively defunct, and all current developments have ceased. I sincerely hope you're joking

[slim cedar]

So is this game still going or what? Lol been afk for a month

[honest gust]

Hi there any new news?

[hard tartan]

STOP PLAYING GAMES AND LVL UP YOURSELF IN REAL LIFE

[unreal kelp]

no!

[neat wave]

expect Crypto scam message from this user in about 6 hours

[subtle yacht]

goongoblin said calmly

[honest reef]

Steven, I got the refund, thanks bro.

[viral valley]

so is this game dead ?

[vale elk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dead-brain-braindead-gz8JHkRnbUromYpuNc

[stoic tide]

Game is Ded, ded....

[analog remnant]

Is there a bug? Mayor for winstead was Not Chosen This week???

PS: Anyone wants to Grind at HH?

[tribal robin]

is game back?

[dusky wyvern]

GAME IS DEAD

[gaunt canyon]

keep getting error code 37...

[strong dock]

Game ded

[stoic tide]

Pomerlyy babka

[modern pulsar]

No need for WW3

[oblique swift]

Does anybody still have the Intrepid Launcher files still? Dumb question, I know, but I had it on a laptop of mine that I haven't touched in a while, and without thinking twice, I uninstalled it without uninstalling the game files. Now my laptop is stuck having storage being taken up by a game that can't be viewed because of a rookie mistake I made. If anybody still has the files by any miracle they can link to me, it would be very much appreciated!

[obsidian ridge]

it might be so over.....

[slim trellis]

Hey does anyone know when there will be a sale? I want to buy this game but it's a bit too pricey for my 69$ salary

[round pebble]

the game is dead.

[night yoke]

Was it ever alive?

[signal haven]

the military does not allow gay people here so im safe

[latent lake]

bro has the biggest lips tf

[craggy wharf]

Did you get into the game? Im getting error code 37 when I try

[rugged hill]

Should I buy this game?

[hardy light]

Bro just go read the steam reviews..

[patent tundra]

Yes! Definitely Purchase this GAME NOW!! And also, buy ALL the cosmetics for it that you can!

[crystal cradle]

Scammer below me.

[vast elm]

let people enjoy what they want

[icy spire]

After 26 tickets finally got a refund, dont give up bois.

[brave wren]

if your in australia bring up the ACC as it'a againts Consumer Law as it's classed as an unfinished product

[honest reef]

Steven, I still haven't gotten a call back...we we're supposed to have an arrangement...cmon bro.

[bitter hornet]

hi guys im a kickstarter supporter heard about what happened can we get our money back or what

[ornate mesa]

depending on how much you put in, your best bet is probably to wait for a class action and hop on it

the reality is that the board will likely do exactly whatever they can to get the product to a point where people can't sue, any attempts to bring the game back to what it was supposed to be should be held in scrutiny for another way to just cover their ass(ets)

[lost lagoon]

You're my hero. One more ticket fuck it. Fuck Steve Shariff but more important fuck me for believing

[ocean saddle]

In the old days goin to war was like a badge of Honor. Would volunteer to go fight a war 💪

[whole swan]

when the game will be released? I just bought it

[tulip star]

That would be great if we could get a real announcement at some point, just to confirm or not that the project is dead

[broken lance]

The age of heroes is gone… uwu

[weak temple]

Did you buy off steam or buy from intrepid's website directly

[lucid crystal]

Oh shit

[frail granite]

Lol Still claiming im innocent....we are way past this

[dapper elbow]

😭

[soft pollen]

The board should never of been a thing. Brand reputation is difficult to fix.

[hardy light]

Is this.... hope?

[mild pollen]

Well whatever. I don't know if this game will survive but I doubt it can get the trust back.

[karmic torrent]

any summary?

[high lantern]

is the board in the room with us right now?

[ripe basalt]

Give me the tl;dr

[tardy zealot]

dont even know i still have this discord, good luck yall have good lives

[tawny maple]

It wasn't me, it was the one armed man.

[cedar dragon]

Lol he just dump a huge wall of text. Doesn't mean Steven is in the clear at all.

[north barn]

@idle siren REFUND ME ASHES DADDY

[devout laurel]

On my 5th now

[shell gale]

lol i can't write in any other chat aside from this one

[crimson matrix]

@idle siren stop posting absolute bollocks you cunt

[sturdy crag]

@idle siren on damage control today. Already got a full refund from Steam. Nobody is buying your bullshit.

[stark sierra]

So....are we getting refunds then to combat the company that owns it?

[sturdy summit]

@idle siren I don't care, give me my money back.

[cinder cloud]

Imagine publicly saying that the game wasn't beholden to a board, and now all the problems are because of a board that wasn't supposed to exist.

[frozen pagoda]

Steam refused my refund 🙁

[pulsar gorge]

I just want my steam order refunded

[somber thistle]

Have the gamd continue or give us our money back!!!

[noble wind]

@idle siren I hope you would end living on a tent.

[pliant anvil]

Devs so confused they got confused about deving, or something like that, 29.99 please to look at this photo of the game

[ornate dune]

nobody cares about your stupid personal problems or what the board did, just give the money back to the players

[tough stone]

Fuck you steven

[chrome violet]

Emotional silly boy. I imagine the day you have a real problem you’ll off yourself.

[versed kernel]

Lmao this is like the Jerry Springer of MMORPG drama

[polar mauve]

@idle siren could’ve just put 10mil into buying the Archeage IP and have been better off

[deep lynx]

One Armed Scissor

[hollow oak]

I had my suspicions back in the days of archeage when kickstarter money was used to fund his playernation but the dev seemed to be going somewhere, so I figured I'd give it a try

But nope, same old crap from the same old douche.

[steep slate]

I believe in getting this game back on track. You can do it

[dire osprey]

love how they put slow mode back on again so freaking cringe but also I don't buy your reaccounting of events Steven, you lied about there being no board and the game being fully funded and backed by your own money we all knew that probably wasn't true but you spouted it anyways. I'm gonna reserve my actual judgements for the actual court cases and evidence in the united states you are Innocent till proven guility.. well we'll just see how "Innocent." you really are. I bet you've got some real fucking nasty skeletons in the closet yet to be brought forth into the light. I don't buy the bullshit about "they threatened to harm me and my husband with bad people.".

[merry pilot]

Enjoy your 6 hour slow mode

[hybrid vessel]

what’s the tldr

[marble pecan]

Sharif claims the board tried to seize control of Intrepid and Ashes of Creation through illegal actions, while he is now suing them and has already won an early court order protecting the company’s assets.

The biggest weaknesses are that the statement is only one side of a legal battle, relies on unproven allegations, and doesn’t fully explain the company’s financial situation or governance structure.

[wary smelt]

Board bad i good

Worth it

[rustic scroll]

The restraining order against the board is legit

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/casdce/3:2026cv00965/843873/20/

[gilded turtle]

Sorry, Steven, I don't buy your wall of text. You acted in bad faith knowing there was trouble with finances (the "board") of the company and released the product anyways acting like everything was fine when there was a good chance (as it turns out 100%) that we wouldn't get what we paid for. Legally stealing and disrespecting the gaming community.

[hazy slate]

@idle siren Pretty sure folks have just moved on. I get this is personal for you but there are so many questions unanswered. You knowingly borrowed funds from investors who have already been in trouble with the FTC. Why would you even borrow from said folks knowing their history?

Never mind the fact you did this to not have to answer to “boards”. Yet here we are…. This entire thing has also damaged players and investors trust in MMOs/Kickstarters. This has done more harm than good for the community you claimed to have cared about.

[winged marten]

Short translation:
"Blablabla...evil board...I am a martyr who sacrifices himself for you"
Not a word of apology or remorse towards society. A selfish, lying scammer.

@idle siren With your new reputation, everything you say is just bullshit.

[ripe jetty]

ppl saying fuck Steven after they just won in court with the specific reason of illegal seizure of assets its crazy
youre just stupid. Much love to devs. (also cant imagine crying over $50, spend your time on indeed instead of crying in discord)

[ivory vessel]

I would like @idle siren to Explain while several times he said their is no board and it all him then suddenly their was a board for years in the back ground

[outer jungle]

Sooo… is the game back on? 😬✌️

[shell epoch]

Just keep working magic and get the servers going!

[void hamlet]

I saw all the lawyerspeak text in the news section. Now what I'd like to see is the $500 I spent used to turn the servers back on while you guys figure out who is lying and who is telling the truth.

[marsh garnet]

The board is a lie.

[upper pike]

os servidores estao ligados novamente?