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Who wants to give me gold and/or rosethorn set in Lyneth? 😉
are we getting refunded back ???
its free too until midnight comes out
no
In our dreams 😄
Steam refunds it seems.
Goodbye all apart from Hentie Guild you can go fuck yourselves
👋
Daybreak games prolly will buy the IP don’t worry they will milk it harder than the EverQuest Franchise😂
Do we get the free mount still from PTR stress test?
Had more fun in Alpha 1 than Alpha 2
see you in alpha 68
whoever steam is giving refunds lied. they are not.
im so confused but i just heard the game is already done for. I've followed this game since 2020 and have spent $595 trying to support it. Times have been up and down for me, will i ever get to use the skins i paid for? can i get my money back or something? i would rather just play the game if it stays but if it shut down ill be very sad.
After 4 Weeks of playing someone will steal your stuff and log out.
Unfortunately not . It's unlikely that we'll be able to get refunds.
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hi guy,s just logged into my kickstarter account. where can i dl the game now ?
hi guys, should i choose lionhold or samia's hope?
How much money was Polar paid to keep the game going? 15 million made in 45 days, total expenses 5.6 million in that time yet there 9million not accounted for. Where did that 9 mil go Steven?
AoC turned into Ashes of Learing.....you all learing today that our money is Gone Gone Gone Gone. be back in 6 hours to make another worthless shitpost

GUYS COME JOIN PANTHEON RISE OF THE FALLEN! New old-school based MMO currently in early access with constant updates and new content added every month!
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anyone tried project: gorgon ? how is it ?
search "neeko2lo" on youtube and watch his video, all you need to hear/see. @everyone
owari da
damnn
WHY
y'all deadass got robbed for christmas I can't 😂
As much as I hoped this game would become something, I'm glad I didn't buy into early access... At least I still have tibia
are we getting our beetle mounts? /s
theres a couple indie MMORPGS that could use peoples support out there, look into em
ya'll think hes going to get like a class action lawsuit? lol
Shit like this is why MMOs had been on decline for years now
I've been telling people since this game was on Kickstarter that these Devs are fucking clowns who have no clue what they were doing or talking about.
Steam refunded my purchase, played around 100hours
How?
wasted potential
It's okay guys, eventually Steven will be putting fries in the bag.
I literally just bought this game last week, its getting fully shut down? I thought it was great so far
i played 12 hours and they declined it... but im going to harass it lol
what you put in the ticket
How?
so the game is done?
Man I backed the game like 5 years ago on their website. Guaranteed I’m not getting my money back
pretty much rip yes. maybe they sell the stuff out and it becomes an typical asia grind with p2w and see you all now in 6 hours
So was the board behind the RMT scandal the entire time?
ooohhhh thats some juicy stuff
Most fun mmorpg I've played in forever.... this is such bullshit....
MMO's are just hyper cooked
Hey. I want to buy the rights and IP to this game. who do i talk to
Back to Warcraft!
Is there even a single truly good MMO left? Or are we all just screwed?
at least tbc drops next week!
at least tbc drops next week!
Don’t think it was a scam, just wasn’t panning out financially. Money ran out, so much money paid for development but in the past year it’s been moving so slow.
@near stump here’s another one for you to avoid
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Is the game shutting down? I read some developments and it said Steve resigned?
Yes it’s sounds like it
🚨 IMPORTANT INTREPID STUDIOS ANNOUNCEMENT 🚨
After an intense internal discussion lasting almost 7 minutes, we have made the difficult but exciting decision to lay off literally everyone at Intrepid Studios (including the coffee machine).
🎩 Steven Sharif has courageously stepped aside to “focus on vibes” and will now be consulting exclusively via Discord emojis.
We are thrilled to announce that Ashes of Creation is now under new leadership:
🏴☠️ PirateSoftware (former Blizzard guy, current internet pirate, part-time MMO philosopher) has officially taken over as:
Executive Producer
Creative Director
Lead Programmer
Balance Team
Discord Mod
Node System (the node is him)
What this means for Ashes of Creation:
Alpha 2 delayed to “when it feels right”
Combat redesigned to be Soulslike, but tab-targeted
Every mount is now a crab 🦀
Cash shop removed, replaced with vibes
If a node dies in-game, PirateSoftware personally explains why on stream for 4 hours
All future updates will be announced exclusively via:
Thank you for your continued passion, patience, and willingness to believe anything you read on the internet.
🔥 THIS IS GOOD FOR THE GAME 🔥
— Intrepid Studios
(now just PirateSoftware on a laptop)
Should we uninstall and ask for a refund?
Im gonna keep it on my pc as a reminder of poor financial decisions.
I will never participate on a kickstarter ever again. This game was killed by CORPORATE GREED!
You stole my money you fuggin losers
It was killed by toxic positive player base, a lying lead dev with ties to mossad, and the company double dipping RMT'ing, banning real players and not bots (because it was their accounts) hoping theyd double down on their copium and buy another copy where they could siphon their funds from. I also heard Steven may be in the Epstein emails.
💸 💸 💸
Well my 120$ are gone forever they can suck my fat toes absolutely ridiculous played this way before the steam released I’m screwed so hard lol
lol
Is the game really dead? anyone have any information at all?
At least you didn't buy a 2000$ ship on scam citizen!
How? I only have 2 hours and the refund got rejected....
Did Stupid Studios say something ?
I was thinking that Star Citizen might end up being a rug pull.
At least SC isn't imploding 😄
why does it hurt when I pee?
Is there any new official announcement?
yet
star citizen has been running for 13 years at this point it will never be a rug pull even if it went offline tomorrow
When is the discord rugpull?
It was a good run for the times had.
How are you?
i mean it already made almost 1 bil $ in funding , it will never be a rug pull since they make millions with every " ship sale "
can you still play for now at least?
@idle siren where did the money go?
you cant give @tight gale a raise after she asked for many times? she lied about hate speech to cover aoc?
you cant pay your employees?
who runs the company?
you had zero investors
Steven went on a full PR campaign against Narc when he was calling out Ashes of Creations bs. going on Asmongolds, Piratesoftware, and other big creators platforms. At the time this swayed public opinion in favor of Steven and he was looked at as just a poor little guy trying to make a good game!
He then proceeded to rugpull a whole Community and resign without taking any accountability. Absolutely wild
Slowmode
i have 81 minutes and got rejected lol
LFG crabs
don't want to make refund - wish this game will be playable after this accident.
and those 150hrs worth it
@delicate wolf how much of Steven's dick did you suck for that favoritism? Shallow or DT?
how does one get a refund?
Anyone working on a PS yet?
I'll make a Kickstarter for it right now
Well I'll play one last day s if anyone wants to give me gold and legendary or heroic gear I'd be more then happy lol
The Kickstarter is fulfilled by the early access on steam I'm assuming? That's why they do this now because they legally can?
You dated a Phi.
Anyone been able to get a refund yet? If so what did you do? 
Anyone else got a refund despite 2+h playtime?
Is this game worth trying?
Is AoC shutting down?
justgot home from work, see asmongold channel "its over" its aboutashes...
Another WoW killer, killed
WoW doesn't need a killer
Apprently ppl knew Steven was a scammer but none of y’all believed them until now. I knew better than to waste hundreds of dollars on an alpha lmao. Aniimo has a beta for free so there were already red flags.
6 hour cooldown here too so be wise
give it 5 years steven will show up on another kickstarter MMO
They made sure the game was "released" on Steam, so that any backer is denied the full refund they promised in case the game never launched
Good luck with that... straight idiot
Justice for Narc!
hi
So how can I get my $150 back since this was a scam
Can I get refund from pre order bets 4 years ago
@tribal jewel Is it normal that there is a SIX HOUR slowmode on the newcomer chat? (and this chat, holy moly)
We can't do anything about it. It was set before the announcements came out, and this took all of us by surprise. We no longer have permissions to do anything about them
Can anyone convince me to buy the game?
Why is the slowmode sooo long?
Rip, just wasted it, 6 hours holy shtt
i like turtles and trains
Damn, im so sad.
Early access is a pre-release state. It does not constitute a release. Everyone saying that it will fill the clause of backers is just wrong. If they try that, they can and most likely will be sued.
Honest question, if AoC were to die today, what would you be playing instead?
Mortal online 2
Arc Raiders
"were to die today" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
How are the vibes?
If most of the senior leadership has left and there were mass layoffs I'd say this game is dead.
o que acontece
give me the source code and my claude codex will finish this game in a week - "claude code finish this game make no mistakes"
awe nards am I right
Had such a good mix of various MMOs
Back to ArcheRage I guess xD
Hi! Is it true that Steven has left this discord?
You can check urself
On the bright side, they did fix the bot problem!
<@&542059693779058748> Good luck guys. Whatever happens. best of luck.
Where's everyone going most mmos are dead
Remember, guys: never believe any crap coming out of an MLM guy's mouth xD
He hasn't left.
Steven said that if the game can't get past the alpha version and reach the official release version, he'll do a refund. Will this be done?
when will idiots stop investing money into passion projects lmao
You got scammed bro, At least publish the game on github
Same to you. may you find a good MMO to play in. I know that I will be on a hunt for another MMO that isn't WoW and ESO
I can’t believe they would do this at the start of Black History Month. That’s racist.
Game closes?
i better get a refund !!
Is it true there shutting down just seen a post on x
damn, I loved this game so much, it allowed me to take a break from my main job - killing russians on my ukrainian land. Now I'll have to go back to that job, even more angry and ferocious than before
I know a guy resigned from his job to RMT here😂 😂
The Quinfall looks similar to this if your ok with going to another pre release?
I spent 50 bucks in 2017 on the Kickstarter. I would like my money back thank you Steven. Please to the same account as paid from, no later than Tuesday.
Amongus
I am okay with going to another pre-release and no, it's not Quinfall.
I'm looking at Star Citizen
We were a year away from a really good game. Probably 2 years away from a god tier game. Let's hop the board of corporate FBs get their crap together
Might as well make use of the money I wasted back in 2012, lol
everyone go play black desert online!!!
back to osrs
why
One post every 6 hours ? Fuck off with this shit
I remember when I backed the game. I was working at staples in community college. Took me like two years before I realized I fell for a scam from a pyramid scheme dude. God was I dumb then. At least I learned my lesson. Always just sat around here to see if something would happen. Remember the BR that looked like turbo dogshit and they had a currency for lmao
Don't trust any kickstarter MMOs. Might end up like this epic fail as this game.
So we sueing this guy?
Assume:
1,000,000 copies sold
$50 per copy
That’s $50M gross
After:
Platform cut (30%) → ~$35M
Taxes, refunds, chargebacks → ~$30M usable
Payroll reality:
200 people × $150k real cost = $30M per year
So one million copies buys you:
One year of payroll. Nothing else.
No servers
No marketing
No contractors
No future development
And selling 1M copies is HARD.
cooked from the beginning.
One day, an mmo will emerge unscathed by carnival, low attention span, and microtransactions lovers. My great grandchildren will be there to witness it.
Me got scam!! help guys!! steven got me 40 dollar!!
Steven best man. He will buy the game for a Dollar and resell you apes some founder packs for AoC2.
Uha buga buga uha huh ka
I still haven't found out who was on the board with Steven. Who was the other board members?
Tomorrow Steven will announce his new project: Ashes of creation 2: Rise from the ashes 😎
People truly dont understand the cost of running a company like that. This not even including the multiple times they have been sued / office costs / healthcare costs. That is the reality. I truly think they ran out of money, had to go to investors and it all went down from there.
steven and his husband were the board
Sure Jan.
I knew before I was born this game was doomed
Sucks because for an alpha it was awesome. If they just fixed a few things god damn
well game is dead so catch you on the flip side
Just take the L and stop crying
Unistalled, refund request denied! something better then this better happen cause what a waste of a gift.
Cheap gold, buy now at g2g. 95% off!!!🫠
as a KICKSTARTER backer we were Promised our MONEY back if the GAME never got realeased. So how do I apply for my REFUND ?
Who’s tryna lick these feet tho?
yeah Im one of the $500 ones.. we probably arent getting anything back unless some one does a class action and some how wins
hey I just bought the game super excited when are the 2nd classes available?

apply for the steam refund via tickets not the automatic refund, they'll probably refund in a few days as more shit pops up
since it was released on steam that technically counts as launched therefore no refunds
haters hating coz they blind to see a good quality mmo. compared it to mlm scams lmao. cynical close minded morons.
an alpha is not a release. Also slow mode has been applied to soft lock the conversation ADMINS WHO ARE YOU BEING LOYAL 2 YOU WONT HAVE A JOB IN A WEEK.
No way you people are calling Ashes a good MMO after getting rugpulled... are you a fincel? have some self respect you actual cuck
Ashes of its own Creation
can you refund?
ashes of cremation
Have they announced when the servers are going offline? Guild doing last hoorah
MO2 is shit.
!stream
Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1771009200:F>! The stream will kick off in 3 days 7 hours 31 minutes.
Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation
lol
😂
PLZ STILL BUY OUR GAME LIKE A GOOD GOY
😭
Rug pulled by a man who takes it in the butt
So...it's confirmed? After I just bought into it...it's ending?
Technically doesn't matter what was promised but what the terms of service were in place when you brought it so can't imagine many if any are getting a refund.
get wrecked nerd
just play runescape old school dead man mode its a faster lvl ups and more pvp open world and if u never played runescape before this will be a better mode for u to learn how to play old school runescape plus if u love bots osrs has tons of bots as well lol but still a fun ass game come try it out and it will never shut down its servers youtube about it if u wunna know more but hella fun PVP / PVE
stop cry and focus scars of honor please it will deliver
Are they turning development over to Caspian from Chronicles of Elyria or naw?
the letter said they want to need work at the funamentals bc of cheaters.. and i heard they waant to give it to develpers in the philippines bc its much cheaper. and steven didn't wanted to .. is that true?
I mean, once a scammer, always a scammer. R.I.P to people who bought all the monthly cosmetics 😂
Teso is pretty fun tbh at least the game doesn’t close 😇
Looking forward to see that happening on Star Citizen
I can't decide if steven was simply a delusional guy burning all his cash without a real plan or a weird scam where he lost bunch of money. Feel bad for the devs& everyone working for a manchild with delusions. I have a hard time believing it was a real "scam" since i'm not sure how he even made money from it. 😂 Both cases are crazy to me
I want to report to the police because I was cheated by AOC💰
https: //reportfraud.ftc.gov/
11558 Sorrento Valley Road
San Diego CA 92121
So, the servers will be shut down tomorrow?
<@&542059693779058748> I know you guys prob arent in the mood to mod anymore, but be advised this discord still has to be moderated to not be shut down by discord. I see a lot of emote abuse going around

monitor my ass
When can we use the beta1 and beta2 access key?
Using my 6h CD message
tink tink tink
Ahem, Janitors, the emoting will continue until Emancipation from the unfair 6h lockdown is abolished, thank you. 
i got a question, when is the class action and where do i sign up?
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LF MORE NEED 3 DPS for SHR (STEVEN HOUSE RAID) pst
MO2 ever get US servers?
I cant wait for the Feb 13th Development update!
Who is ready for tomorrow 's announcement?
so we getting money back from game shutting down after 2 months? (Its a joke)
maybe chris roberts will bring this under his wing?
This is very interesting
im ready for the lawsuit - holy fuck the amount of racist incels reacting to comments LOL
if steam doesnt give refunds, go to credit card company and get refund that way. For all we know, steam knew about this
Ashes of Cremation
Call me Naive, but I dont think this was a plan to recup money and run. I feel like Steven was very passionate about this project, and would make sense him leaving if the board (even if its one extra bloke who has 50% of the power...) was pushing a different direction at stood against the true plan of AoC. PS, slowmode with 6 hours chat time is horrendous. LOW IQ reaction is great hahahaha
I think he's just a scam artist unfortunately, I'm gonna spam steam with refund requests lol
Man who ran pyramid scheme definitely not gonna scam again KEKW
anyway to get refund with more 2 h ?
Hey guys I just started playing which class is the best for pvp
THERE ARE NO GOOD MMOS TO PLAY, WOW IS FUCKING DEAD, MMO GENRE IS ON ITS WAY OUT, IT HAS BEEN FOR A DECADE NOW
no but you can learn from you mistake now
the uninstall one, that's the best class
rip
with all the potentially developed content that the game already has, would be cool to at least see it sold to some company that can preserve the work and release it
but not sure its gonna be any easy to pick up and understand from an outside studio, hytale 2,0 pls ?
Is this the spot I recruit ppl for my tes3mp server
Boycott STEAM if they dont give refunds.
You know what, I'm actually happy the whole Linux ban thing happened. Caused me to get a refund before this whole mess.
Played enough hours since early access to not care about the $ spent.
Where can I buy this game?
RuneScape and Tibia are still alive after more then 20 years
so this just got the new world treatment, the genre is basically dead? wouldnt be surprised if riot cancels their upcoming mmo as well
Any news about the refunds? i payed 250$ that's half of my monthly salary for literally NOTHING
What happened to the servers? When im trying to join msg pops up and says "Server is offline, you've been scammed, deal with it".
Say Gex
Most likely they have no money left. I'll honestly be shocked if they meet final payroll and the devs don't find out they worked for free this last pay period.
Why did you scam your playerbase?
When we in Germany make this kind of jokes we say "April April" bcs its 1st april... In Vera it will be called "February February"
There will be no refund because Sony Online Entertainment is picking this up and will turn it into another successful game like it did with Vanguard, Saga of Heroes
Yoo , they add an emoji called "its scam" how is that possible lol

The Add to Cart is still an option on steam, ofcourse no ones going to get a refund.
Guys think positiv best case now is they keep the servers running and make this into asian stile pay to win game with gotcha mechanics
Report it as False or Misleading Representations and Deceptive Marketing Practices on the steam page, maybe if enough people do it steam will take it down by force
Guys any games with good crafting system?
Everyone involved with this studio needs to be investigated. Even your favorite people.
Ashes of donation
So No refunds??
If this gets at least 50 reactions ill post porn
"🚨 Project Renaissance: Can we save Verra? 🚨
We all know Intrepid is effectively dead as of tomorrow's payroll failure. But the code exists. I’ve drafted a recovery roadmap based on AI-driven development (2026 tech) that could finish the game with a skeletal crew of 15 Seniors.
The Goal:
Rescue the IP from Boreyko/Liquidators.
Use AI Agents to fix the Netcode & Node stability (the real project killers).
Launch a stable v1.0 for a fraction of Sharif's original burn rate.
If anyone is organizing a consortium of investors or high-level devs to look into the liquidation sale, let’s talk. Verra deserves a version that actually works.
#SaveVerra #AshesOfCreation #AIRenaissance"
Thinking of summoner as my first class. Is there a lot of pet options? Does it get hard juggling pet aggro in group?? Just curious before I start. Thx 🤗
About a month ago steven responded to a question from me about getting better AH filters. Is that in the next patch?
so we filing class action or
how can i join the vc
Maybe, just maybe this all blows over and they come back. Statistically the chance can’t be zero
For sure. But this stunt has caused permenant damage to the games reputation and the gms giving out in game legendary items and mounts and currency to players. Is not a good look lmao
eh the items and currency dont rly matter they would 100% wipe after this if they came back
I like how everyone in this server related to interpid just vanished, didn't even bother to delete the server 😭
So are we hoppin' on Chrono Odyssey when it comes out?
Thanks reddit, was gonna buy the game😂
good spot for lvl 23?
No news yet? That's crazy
Yes its ducking dead
did we get scammed?
Yup, if somone wanted to save they would have spoken out by now. this is a burn it to the ground event.
only china can save the genre, west liberals woke millennials with 5 different genders in their bio cant make any good games. Sell the IP to Tencent or hoyoverse, ad some gatcha and big booba girls and the game will be saved.
I have a question, why did this game suck so much dick and play like barebones ass?
THEY JUST UPDATED THE WEBSITE THEY ARE STILL GOING AHEAD WITH DEVELOPMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so we all got scammed? gg...
link?
Just yapping
Its going to be complete shit. and a clown show if they continue with what the people who are in charge now...
Do a charge back on your credit card they have to do it
Ashes of Jews. \ 2026 colorized/
Y'all think this is bad - you should see what happens in the automotive industry everyday.
You haven't seen cutthroat until you have worked in automotive.
Falseee
is down really ?> wow .. like new world
Difference is, AoC wasn't drowning in absolutely god awful bugs and design choices - Just a CEO that blames a board (of himself) for reasons why he quit.
Swag MONEY
i heard the game has been cancelled now
lol and released on steam so no refunds for it hmmm that’s fishy
So Intrepid Studios launched a game to get quick money and vanish is that it?
Refund steam money disgraceful bastards
.......
Game has been deemed a scam for years. Really disappointing. I tried to defend it for so long
yeah men, 10years is soo quick omg
Server down?
no
if they wanted quick money they would have dipped after kickstarter lol
Delist the game from steam you clowns.
So are we going to be able to get refunds or what?
steam will do all they can to deny refunds
i tried to request the refund, hopefully the Steam support will help-us
Guys, guys have some faith, I'm sure they'll pull out of this rut, game development is hard
They couldnt. Not after what happened to "the day after".. told all my buddies this was a scam. What a shame, i did enjoy what i played.
Copy this and use it for a steam/bank refund - "Case Outline: The "Ashes" Extraction Model
Below is a draft outlining the systematic case for why Ashes of Creation functioned as an extraction vehicle.
Title: Forensic Analysis of the "Ashes" Economic Collapse
Subject: Evidence of Intentional Economic Volatility and Capital Extraction
The Design of "Artificial Scarcity",
Argument: The game implemented "friction-heavy" mechanics (low drop rates, high travel times, extreme death penalties) not for immersion, but to create a market for RMT "solutions."
Evidence: Correlation between the increase in grind difficulty in the January 2026 patch and the simultaneous spike in RMT gold listings.
Exploitation of the "Early Access" Legal Loophole,
Argument: The December 2025 Steam launch was a "Liquidity Event."
Evidence: By converting "Alpha" testers into "Customers," the studio secured a final wave of capital while knowing the studio’s burn rate made a 2026 survival impossible.
Failure of Oversight as a Feature,
Argument: The "Node" system functioned as a decentralized laundering system.
Evidence: Data shows that 70% of the game's wealth was concentrated in four "Metropolis" nodes controlled by accounts with suspicious 24/7 uptime, with no developer intervention despite repeated reporting.
Conclusion: The "Rug Pull" Mechanics,
The sudden closure on February 2nd, immediately following a peak holiday sales period, plus the 14 loans/liens (recent reports) suggests a "Pump and Dump" cycle. The game was the "Pump"; the RMT-driven grind and connection (recently released DMs) and/or Loans(14) was the "Extraction"; the studio closure is the "Dump."
That only works up to 120 days
I like the alpha, do we have a release date yet?
where do we sign up for the class action lawsuit?
So i deem this to mean the YouTube videos are based on facts? Dang .
Do you guys think it was foreshadowing that the stream was postponed onto Friday the 13th?
Just dropping a comment here for eventual Youtube documentary on Ashes of Creations.
Green check mark if rug pulls are bussy behaviour
when is the serve gonna shutdown
Are refunds coming to steam?
With AOC winding down and the whole thing starting to feel… scam-adjacent, I don’t think the dream has to end with the IP.
What this game really did was bring together a genuinely awesome community. That part is real. That part matters.
We’re different.
Someone should spin up a Discord for AOC refugees. A place to stay connected, recommend new games, share what we’re playing next, or just hang out and keep the vibes alive.
And yes…
mostly to meme on Polar. 😏
Can I still able to Refund from Kickstarter and Cosmetics I buy?
I started a steam potation to make the devs refund steam players seeing how we only got the game for what a few weeks before they take our money and run
When are they meant to be shutting down? I just found out
Here is a dupe for you fellas
https://imgur.com/J3e26fD
https://imgur.com/lq48WXc
Shit aint ever getting fixed
Nope already tried, DENIEEDDDDD
STEVEN IS ONE OF (((THEM))) AND THE MASS LAYOFF IS A PSYOP TO DRIVE ATTENTION FROM ESPTEIN FILES
Biggest rug-pull in the gaming industry.
Crowfall 2
Hey I was thinking about picking this game up and was wondering if the PVP is good?
ROA
Its good, go outside of Joeva and play there. But it'll never be as good as Rise of Agon brother
@tawdry fog are servers shutting down? and if so when?
Because a leader is gone does not mean the system is gone.
Was dynamic gridding ever a real thing? Before alpha 2 Steven said "it was in place" and they were improving the performance.
I just know when alpha 2 launched dynamic gridding was not enabled
Steam keeps denying my refund request. Bought the game early Dec. Only have 5 hours. Figured I'd wait out to see if the game got better then all this shit happenned. Having the been rug pull from the start should not be allowed on steam. I hope this rule changes in the future. Fuck Steven
Bone, yes I understand steams policy however posting the game to lie about active delvopment when you full known you were gonna take the game down 51 days after the steam launch, this shit should not be allowed
you cant refund games played for more than 2 hours and 2 weeks
you cant automatically get the refund, but you can most likely get it from an actual support ticket*
Does anyone have the link to the video where Steven got interviewed and his mouth looks like it's AI-generated? I've seen this video before but I can't find it anywhere now, it was maybe about 2 years ago.
@idle siren What can you say regarding the state of the game or are you unable to make any further statements? I understand the need for patience but is there anything you can tell us?
good thing no one got it on steam and spend over 2 hrs in cue so you cant refund
Honestly just wait to request the refund, Intrepid needs to inform Valve before mass refunds can happen for something like this, if the game is going under then you will most likely get your money back
lol the uproar of crying about $42 dollars
some of us spent 140 @balmy juniper way before it hit steam
It's more then about 42 dollars or 150 it's personal for some who followed from archage I will personally gather people for a class action lawsuit
Wait until my father hears about this
This piece of shit gay ass mother fucking scammer Steven can suck a bag of dicks and choke on them. Oh wait this is supposed to be a question. Let me rephrase it. This piece of shit gay ass mother fucking scammer Steven can suck a bag of dicks and choke on them?
Kira's video is out
@jaunty viper busier reacting to this channel than devs ever were making the game
Is this game good should I buy it?
love seeing people cry about wanting their money back after they fell for this shit made MMO , idiots. Cope harder 😂🫵
I am still server muted, damn og's
''WoW killer'' huh
The same people laughing about this game dying are the same ones crying there's no new mmos anymore 😂
Def some like California girls
EASY WAY TO GET REFUNDED
REQUEST FOR A CHARGEBACK FROM YOUR BANKS
Why is it still for sale on Steam?
In all seriosness tho.. AoC had promis but you let guilds run unchecked.. you let bots run unchecked.. you tried to make up for financial difficultius with FOMO RMT and over priced supporter packs.. The board got greedy and you got screwed.. the real loser in all this is the players..
Wow has been dead for 10 years.
^ what cope looks like
Shitsraelis aren't ethnically real. Zionism is a western genocidal tool
Free Palestine.
one games making billions and another is a cancelled kickstarter rug pull 😂
Alright, im done trolling the emote guys, lol. Have fun!
everyone google archeage classic private server, make an account and downoad it. then we make guild called AOC refugees.
give me my fkin money back, scammers
Hey didn’t intrepid have a lawsuit at one point where they were banned from doing business in Cali? This doesn’t seem like a surprise.
that pic got yoinked fast AF
Steam refund went through boys, lets freaking go
how many attempts did it take?
The fact u all are still crawling around crying in this discord server is atrocious. I find it particularly blasphemous that u fools still try to tag the devs and mods. They left awhile ago.
they pulled a The Day Before LOL
but you're literally crawling around crying in this discord server right now
Do you guys think another kickstarter could save the game?
i wonder for how long people use wow killer lmao
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This is typical of Zionists: they steal money and don't work.
free palestine
I'll take three.
This dev team is such a joke.. an actual cash grab. I can’t wait for the class action lawsuit… CEO is a…
Guys how do I play the game
ur fault for funding a crowdfunding scam
nothing will come of it. He moved all his property into an LLC, to protect it from any litigation. Convenient that he did it in November or so....barely made it in time to protect it.
Just joined just to say this is a rug pull 🤣
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bro nooooo is it true
it is CRAZY to me how everyone went from being just upset to calling it a cash grab and now saying this is Isreals doing and threating to kill steven lmao
Yall still here? 🤣
January 29th 2026
To our glorious community,
Ashes of Creation exists because of you. Every tester who logs in, reports a bug, and challenges us to do better - this world is shaped not just by our developers, but by the people who believe in what Verra can become.
We know that some of you are frustrated right now. We feel that. You’ve been candid about the issues impacting your experience, and you deserve clarity and honesty in return.
The concerns we hear most clearly include:
The impact of RMT, bots, and cheating on fairness and progression
PvP and corruption systems that don’t yet feel consistent or fully realized
Issues surrounding caravans, crates, and risk-versus-reward gameplay
Content and system bugs that interrupt gameplay
Performance and stability problems that pull you out of the world
These are not small things. They touch the core of what Ashes of Creation is meant to be: a living, player-driven MMORPG where your time, effort, and choices matter. We are actively working on these areas, and many of them are deeply interconnected - solving one often requires structural changes across multiple systems. That work is underway.
Game development, especially at this scale, is rarely linear. Systems evolve. Assumptions are challenged. Foundations must sometimes be reworked, so what comes next can stand strong. That process can be uncomfortable, particularly in an open development environment where you see the seams as they’re stitched. But it is also what allows us to build something ambitious, durable, and worthy of your investment.
To ensure we can speak clearly and thoroughly about what’s next, we’ve moved our upcoming Development Update on Twitch to February 13, 2026 at 11:00 AM Pacific. In that update, we will walk through our Q1 plans and outline the next steps for Ashes of Creation - what we’re prioritizing, why those choices matter, and how they connect to the issues you’re experiencing today.
You’ve joined us on a journey, not a finished road. That doesn’t mean you should accept broken systems or unclear direction - it means you are part of a process that requires iteration of a world in the making. We are grateful for your patience and passion. It comes from a place of care.
Verra is still growing. We remain deeply committed to making it a world worthy of your time, your stories, and your belief.
Thank you for walking this path with us.
With respect and gratitude,
The Ashes of Creation Team
© 2024 Intrepid Studios. All rights reserved.
Janurary 30th 2026
LAWL FUCK YOU GUYS THANKS FOR THE MONEY!
so is AOC cooked?
Ashes of Creation? More like Ashes of your Wallet!
6 hour chat cooldown is diabolical.. i better not waste this moment
is there a way to request a refund that anyone knows ?
KHY IS MARGARET KROHN ACTIING INNOCENT ON FACEBOOK?
No you can't refund it...that was the point of the scam
6 hour chat cooldown is nasty... I wonder if -
i've been waiting 6 hours to say this, it's gonna be a long and important message, i jsut hope i don't press enter too early, or anything, bu

Fuck that scammer hope he burn in hell soon
scammers gonna scam
Got my refund sugg it losers
is having a huge nose a problem now? ||yes it is, oy vey||
anyway another wow killer game dead
i take it there is no refund for prepaid skins
Lmfao whoever took ownership of ashes and thinks anyone here is going to play it now that this has happened is so delusional about reality that they must live inside a bubble. Game is forever dead now and no overseas development will ever bring back the hype we all had for this game. It’s a black mark that will never fade similar to companies like ncsoft. Gg boys it was fun but we all got cooked and burned
How much money total did they get u think?
Arent we glad that finacial companies started taking over the gaming industry
AoC has died for humanitarian reasons. Steven Jewriff must go back to selling his magical cancer-healing juices and save the world. He's a saint.
Backed on kickstarter and lost out like everyone else got scammed but the racist shit is pretty gross.
So do we still get the mount for making it to lvl 25?
The ones doing this dont care about u or me playing the damn game bro. All they care about is money, intrepid go fked and played over, lost. BOARD want to sell shit out and be done with it, thus why everything will go down, and every asset is gon be sold.
Palestine is not a real country
Ashes of end
Too bad Steven was the only one in the board
if you find out please let me know steam rrefuse to refund me
Jews rock
back to cure cancer pots?
if you are trying to scam people to make money; developing a video game is a dumb way to attempt that. The dude is probably going bankrupt. California is a dumb place for a digital start up.
Pretty sure if it can be proved that he did it to hide assets they can still be used. I could be wrong tho.
It’s over. The boss had been locking down his money and possessions for a long time. Now that he has finished doing so, he made his move. He has neither money nor possessions in his name anymore, so there’s nothing to give back to us.
buyer beware, wow what a dumb thing to do
Project Gorgon is fun and NOT gay at all
i refunded after reading the elf description in character creator of project gorgon
Hi guys, im here just to say hello, cya in 6 hours.
When is the subclass patch coming out ?
Gotta love the 6hr slowmode to throttle their hate. Looks like Steven left the discord server too
@idle siren hes here
i just wanted to enter here and make sure i'm in history sending my go fuck yourself to @idle siren , and for all do not buy more fucking kickstart shit.
I'm mostly pissed because I was having fun with the game. The MMO genre is so starved that even this skeleton of a game was doing a good job of being fun. And now we get no game and we gotta settle for the same gw2/ffxiv/wowslop until someone has the balls to try another mmo.
It's just so sad that this one move is going to kill confidence in mmo development for years, if not outright putting the last nail in the coffin.
i just bought the game, wich class do you guys recommend?
Ehhh whens this game gona be free in Steam
You can still play Star Citizen though. And they're pushing out updates/patches every month or so
Chrono odyssey
korean mmo slop
Genuinely don’t get the hate for star citizen, I’ve had tons of fun in it doesn’t feel anything like a scam to me 🤷🏼
Edit: I'm a sucker for having fun in a game I like? Really? lmaooo
star citizen is fire
soooo..... no more ashes????
Been a failed game since day 1
Is Chris and Steven the same person?
Can Steven get testicular cancer? Or can he die slowly?
statistically speaking he will get another type of cancer due to a certain life choice
This take is just wild - Its not like we are dying because the game is not going to be playable; even if the truth comes out that this was all intended, was a scam (not saying whether it was or not) saying things like this is crazy.
do we still have any hope of the game surviving? a paradise in the phillipines?
If this was an intentional scam then this reaction is 100% justified imo.
Stealing from so many people is abhorrent.
So is the game still running currently?
If so someone might end up buying in, it’ll change but the game would be saved
Gimps got scammed up
Yep
Baby shark do do do do
The scumming thing in mind is that if they got a publisher the publisher would take some of the profits and make money. Where as if you crowd fund the game, you get nothing but to keep paying a monthly sub.
No matching results. Try something else.
didn't expect the first wipe to happen so soon...
still im pretty hyped for the new content coming up with the next phase
someone mentionned leaked dms any idea what it it about ? or where can we find them ?
Not happening lol
I hope this is just a leverage move but I think the game is dead.
Here is hoping they don't just talk about shutting it down on Feb 13th
whats the chance of this game still living to release?
Go to help.steampowered.com and login.
Do NOT use the normal refund method!
Click "Purchases"
Under "LAST SIX MONTHS OF PURCHASES" you should find Wolcen. Click it.
Click "I have a question about this purchase".
Here you plead your case. I'll leave this up to you, but I described my situation in all honesty. That I had not been able to play, that bugs prevented game from being started etc.
Due to automatic system saying no if you have played more than 2 hours
I think chance to have classic u4 ashes of creation bigger then this
was this the Bridgerton mmo?
how do we get refund it the servers are shutting down? steam said no
Can't believe its all over... such sad news. They could have been number one in the mmo market.. sad, very sad...
I'm contacting my bank tomorrow.
6 hour chat time is crazy
If you want a new game to hop into- why not try out Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen?
Old school MMO, the spiritual successor to Everquest, Pantheon is in Early Access, adding updates and new content every month as they chug along to full release. If you like group content, slow levelling and classically inspired MMOs, this indie MMO is definitely worth trying out.
Scammer boy steven come out and play
Hey guys,, how do we get a refund?
RIP all the people that bought countless pre release cosmetics, I knew they were going to regret that
Never buy pre release or early access mtx
3 years ago I called it
10 years in development 4 weeks in pre-alpha 2 before its shut down...amazing
Dont worry about the opinions of sad people
TBC ANNIVERSARY HYPEEEEEE
They crazy thing is, I can't even count how many times it was said by Steven he'd funded the game to its completion and that other funding was just to cover ancillary things (cosmetics, etc). Can't trust any of these kickstarters, for sure.
@tight gale hopefully you find some new work quick. economy is absolute dog shit right now, especially with AI everything.
Yep. He also quit this trying to play it out as hero instead of atleast saying sorry... Pathetic ratman
I have a question yall. How did it feel to get scammed 1 month after EA? Do you feel fucking stupid as fuck for defending @idle siren ? Serious question.
🫵🤣
Says the guy with the ashes of creation member role
Good bye ashes, was fun
Day 2. I request an audience with Steven.
I am but a humble man, hands out, praying to the rogue god for my refund.
Please. I beg.
mfs just bought the game
KEKW
RIP to all who requested beta access.
What if such moneys don't exist anymore?
I only played the game for 4 hours but owned the game on steam as soon as it came out which was over a month ago and I just got a refund
The issue with that is that kickstarter very plainly says that you are giving your money with a chance of getting nothign in return. Ashes could of promised you the cure for cancer and there is no legal action you can do through kickstarter
Edit: holy hell 6 hour slow mode? wtf....
i love small tiddies gawt damn
Fuck You Steven.
hey everyone I just bought the game through steam, im excited to try out the game. any suggestions or tips?
Have you heard anything about the promised skins for Scarabs?
When will I get my scarab?
How long until they close the servers?
Steam responded to my refund request, saying they'll look into it.
Agreed! Though if you read more closely it says mount not skin 🤣
dm me on discord im fileing a lawsuit just dm me i anyone who cant get ur money back from the makers of this game and u want a refund back just dm me on discord il get u all ur money back for skins and the game TBH my lawer is putting toghter something on this case and ima sue tf outa this game Internet Gambling Law: Wire Act, UIGEA & State Regulations and Online Gaming Attorney for Internet Scaming on Games DM me if anyone wants there money back for this game i got over 207 people who are on my list and i can even give u the case number and my Attorneys
/ Lawrence G. Walters / we are not just gunna get for 50$ back or our skins il make the owners of this game pay for wasteing my time and steeling our money and our time. troll me post dumb emotes do as u wish but if u want your money back dm me
damn just got the news... thank god i didnt invest much time on this game
You can barely put enough grammar and spelling together to file a discord post
how much moderation is left on this server?
Wtf happened? I leave for a year.
AoC rug pull to dumb it down

That's why he has a lawyer.
I hope it won't be that bad. I really like this game. Truly.
Well, now I don't need to waste more time with this shit show.
Back to playing Stars Reach and hopefully they dont bomb like this train wreck.
He won’t tell you the truth anyway, because he’s a LIAR.
guys when I do wagon runs how far should I go to maximize gold? I just bought the game 2 days ago so I am not sure.
Bro this trash is shutting down like tomorrow,
WHERES MY MONEY @STEVEN?!
Does anyone help me catch up what's going on?
Main DEV resigned, then board laid off 200 people. Game over.
board meeting is tomorrow and a new company is buying it, which one i mean who knows but the dreams not over
I hope it's EA or ubisoft only they can make ashes of creation a great game
kakao will buy it then sunset it so it doesnt compete with archeage 2 😛
mihoyo will buy it
Ashes of creation as a gacha game would be crazy
I hope it's not a Chinas goverment😂
its morning i norway, Whats the last news on servers
sad I really wanted this to be a good game 🙁
we all did, it did things no other MMO was or is doing, it had huge support
okay, lets just make a new one. no big.
Unfortunately i bought it on their site. for $150 USD LOL.... This makes Star Citizen look pretty damn sexy right now...
I played for 33 hours you think steam will refund me?
Star citizens will most likely have the same fate as this. Like in the past 10 years, how many crowd funded MMO actually worked?
Yes, create a support ticket under the game in your purchases list - instead of requesting a refund via help page
Refund request is an automated system and will deny it - support tickets are sorted and then manually reviewed, usually.
Recent Major Lawsuits
Sada Systems LLC ($850,000): In late 2025, Sada Systems (a Google Cloud partner) sued Intrepid for breach of contract, alleging the studio failed to pay for cloud services provided since September 2022. CEO Steven Sharif dismissed the $850,000 claim as "peanuts," stating it represented only about a week's worth of operating costs.
Aetna Life Insurance ($81,000): Filed in late 2025 in San Diego County, this lawsuit alleged nonpayment of employee insurance premiums over several years.
Ya-Ya Legacy Trust: A 2024 petition for a "Writ of Mandate" was filed to compel Intrepid to allow an inspection of its books and financial records, suggesting internal investor disputes.
Historical and Regulatory Issues
Streamline Media Group: A 2020 lawsuit involved claims of unpaid outsourcing services. Intrepid countersued, claiming the assets provided did not meet quality standards.
California Tax Board (FTB) Suspension: Intrepid Studios was reportedly suspended by the California Franchise Tax Board for several months in 2024, which led to the temporary registration of a new entity, Intrepid Studios LLC.
Investor Transparency: Investigative reports have challenged Sharif’s long-standing claim that the project was entirely "self-funded," pointing to documents showing outside financing and debt-to-stock conversion rights as early as 2017.
Current Status
As of February 1, 2026, multiple sources report that Intrepid Studios has collapsed, laid off its entire staff, and canceled Ashes of Creation. Community members and industry analysts are now anticipating potential class-action lawsuits following the project's sudden termination.
What to expect from a company like that?
Monday and still no official news 🤔
they're in america bro
Its sunday feb 1, 22.20 california time. I just google it haha.
Hey Steve, I gave you 50 grand a while back, and now you’re not responding to my messages on Discord. I’m starting to get worried that I may have lost my money. I saw your recent Snapchat story, and it looks like you got a new house and car, which I’m happy for you about, but I really need you to get back to me. Can you please respond? I might need my money back soon. Thanks!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA AoC was the concord of mmos!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow killer (someone help me refund this via steam dm plz)
Low-key DONT jump me but lazy peon and asmongold propped up this game immensely I would love if they apologized :/
apologize for what? It isnt their fault Steven royaly fvcked up
Just my 2 cents, but ALL game companies took a hit Friday with the announcement of Genie 3, google's AI game generator. probably related
be careful Steven dont get AIDS in Thailand
butsex... when you want nothing, but sex...
so is the game dead or what
I’m gonna beat you guys up!
guys try corepunk its fun af
stop trusting goblins, the juice are not your friends
Time to go back to world of warcraft
At least i got back 140gb from my ssd!
lmfao
Wait wtf are the rumors true?💀whats happening
its joeva
Fuck you all, fuck the company, fuck the one that had the idea, fuck the ones that publicized this game, fuck all you motherfuckers that clearly own a fucking rug store with the amount of bulshitery i've just witnessed and fuck myself for believing in you greedy motherfuckers, first new world now this, MMO's are Gw2 and WoW, genre is dead for inovation.
Take your loss, give us our refunds, go pull the rug from underneath your own feet you fucking pieces of shit.
To the "board", that "pulled people away", i hope you pillow is hot on both sides, I hope your bank rugpulls all your bank account, your kids never talk to you again, you face legal action lausuits, and all end up in jail next to the second coming of Kimbo Slice.
Well now that's out of my chest. Love you all guys, shit game, shit company, everything is shit besides the community.
byebye.
Tell me how you really feel.
@idle siren it literally doesnt matter, EVERYTHING points back to you and it being your fault, no sort of explanation or "Waiting for the facts to be available", is going to save you, you fucked up, you waited too long, you didnt reach out to anyone meaningful for support, you werent backstabbed, nobody screwed you over, the only thing that happened was you let down a large part of the world, and you knew it was coming and did ABSOLUTELY nothing to mitigate it or make the people that believed in you, and your dream feel better, your a sham, a phony, and overall a complete trash human being
I hope to "god" that the people at intrepid who believed in you and your lies don't end up losing their livelihood or worse due to believing in your lies.
continued to lie, live stream after live stream, post after post, acting like the ptr tests meant anything, promising things when you knew it was already doomed, the absolute worst kind of human being.
{ was at work today, a real nonscamming job most of the day, sorry to everyone else for the late response/paragraph lol

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WTF
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Watch your back and get used to this face kiddo, you'll be seeing a lot of it.
basically the Fyre Festival of gaming
We get a sandwich?
Lmao look at all you clowns giving steven the benefit of doubt again. Its so obvious that this is stevens ONLY way out of this project with minimal financial damage. Margaret and many more have a responsibility as well.
Steven has made Pakistan proud
Glory to Pakistan
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Conclusion
As of Feb 2, 2026, Ashes of Creation is nearly unplayable long-term. A theoretical "acquisition relaunch" is highly improbable, time-consuming and uncertain.
I. Event & Status Summary (Feb 2, 2026)
- Developer Intrepid Studios fully laid off staff on Feb 1; CEO Steven Sharif resigned over board disputes, core management left, studio collapsed.
- The game launched Steam Early Access on Dec 11, 2025, but shut down in 52 days—no team for maintenance/updates.
- Financial/legal crises: Sued for $850k unpaid cloud fees (Sada) and $81k insurance dues (Aetna) in late 2025; 2024 California FTB suspension, opaque financing, investor conflicts and debt-to-equity disputes persist.
- Current state: Steam purchase closed, servers at risk of shutdown, refund chaos, class-action lawsuits anticipated.
II. Resumed Operation Feasibility (Extremely Low)
Fatal Irreversible Barriers
- Full team dissolution, no workforce for game operations and updates.
- Capital depletion, unpaid salaries, frozen/liquidated assets and zero cash flow.
- Legal/regulatory troubles with overlapping tax, labor and lawsuit claims.
- IP/control chaos, unresolved board-founder conflicts block handover/relaunch.
Highly Unlikely Theoretical Turnarounds
- Third-party acquisition: Requires debt assumption and team restructuring, low interest for high-cost MMOs.
- Player crowdfunding: Unfeasible due to high thresholds and shattered trust.
- Asset sales: Only residual value in engine/art assets, insufficient for full operation.
III. Player Recommendations
1. Apply for Steam/crowdfunding refunds immediately, retain all records.
2. Back up game screenshots and character data for rights protection.
3. Follow class-action progress and join player rights communities.
Beetle? 😭
Ya’ll got scammed? 🥹 🤡
And now the money spend, ppl get it back or just scam?
I believe Ashes of Creation will never happen.
Nos han timado a todos
It's like a big kick in the gut to the people who put in $$ into the kick starter.
has anyone got a refound yet if you played more than 2 hours?
few people have. keep at it
on the other hand: ppl on kickstarter should be aware that they risk to lose the money.
for the ones who bought the early access on steam, i am not sure how this is handled by steam.
I'm at 902 hours, made the first request on the usual refund option and that was denied because it's an automated thing (expected). I then submitted a second ticket with a Letter Before Action attached and they've asked me for a little time to review everything and get back in touch (I expect to have the refund later on Monday when their legal department is back in).
narc is that you
When is launch?
So you played 902 hours and are crying about 40 bucks? 😂😂😂
@alpine sand They just have a better service than anyone else. Non are overhyping them. They have done this in thr past with other mmos.
If I bought an alpha package for like 120$ back in 2024, is that still eligible for the unlikely case that they'll pay out refunds?
is there a release date for sarduka? a buddy asked if i wanna come back but from my expierence from back than , trailer release to actual release 6-12 months
Does the summoner class get any utility / support spells or is it all damage?
Did you see the news? Ashes is getting shut down tomorrow most likely
The game is done man

Hey guys im brand new is the game any good? Just bought the game for my friends
All dead MMOs are PvP MMOs 
ikr, i got up to level 6 and deicded i was done.
Thats what you get If you Trust your Money to women and woke left liberals with 4 different genders in their Bio.. i hope they sell IT to China, they dont Care about morals or other woke bullshit Just about good games
refund immediately, game just died lol, unless you are joking
Check out the pinned message at the top xD
There hasn't been the slightest explanation from the company all this time. I think we should look for another game now (one that doesn't feature Steven).
Dang this game had alot of people following it
Try alt+f4
Feels weird thinking about it now, steam release seemed to be the last chance to milk as much money from this game before shutting down...
Yes, get a refund
No news about when they will shutdown? I mean, that's kinda funny... not even bothering to make an official statement, after almost 48 hours, on when the servers will close. And why there is still a 6 hours cooldown for messages in a dead game?
Will I get my money back from Kickstarting this game?
the route to refund for early backers is very unclear
Is there any way we can listen to the conversation in voice chat (Alpha tow main voice) and please stop the 6 hours CD on chatting
it's essentially non existing. especially considering the lack of communication
Is this the tes3mp recruitment channel?
Yo has anyone seen my dad?
Pantheon Survived Ashes of Creation. THAT says A LOT.
I’ll go get milk again
WoW classic : am i joke to you?!
Bro nobody here cares about you, your wife or your kid. Sorry.
I do, I am his son and agree this game is bunz
@idle siren What server do you advice me to play ? Just bought the early access I strongly believe in this project
@steep thorn Hello,
I believe there is a refund policy if the game does not release right ?
here i am tryna get 40 bucks back if u spent that much in this hope she divorces u xD
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💸 💸 💸
Have they confirmed whether the game will close today?
Chad
can someone tell me where i can read the ceo letter?
Imagine a community who talked so much shit just for the tiniest criticism, just for it to get fucking nuked. The irony
Dang I was really hoping to see those packages mounts ….. lmfao no refund then? 😩
Hey Steven, is it too late to buy some gold from you?
Oh look clown from other Discords. Xayn is your second nickname, right? If I remember correctly? So, did they kick you out of the Aion Discord already?
@idle siren when news official
check pin
Hello guys, when will the game get released? Very excited for this MMORPG! 😄
come on guys the game still alive just open ur pc and play
come trade me all your gold please
is Ashes of Creation dying?
Damn dude 6 hour wait to say something is crazy I really hate when I fat finger and accidently push se
Damn dude 6 hour wait to say something is crazy I really hate when I fat finger and accidently push se
What other games are there too play then? I want a legit list more than 5 games
- What
I did some research guys look up eldergate
Apogea is pretty fun but its only in a playtest, rumor full release might be this summer
no games to play this one was fun but needed more for 10 year game in making 10 years lol warcraft made theres in 4 to 5 and was massive quest pvp dungins more and exspation was massive in a years time then more more but this is 10 years old still betta cash grab game what i see sorry u all ended your game good luck if u fix it i wont play
Cleric
I wonder if Steven was playing rogue
Got my steam refund 🙂 fk you @idle siren
You refunded the next WoW killer?
Still no official update? Rough
hello, is it dead yet?
0 announcements...
No but its seconds from being pulled off life support
Guys how do I play the game
you don't
THEY JUST UPDATED THE WEBSITE THEY ARE STILL GOING AHEAD WITH DEVELOPMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's the neat part, you don't
got baited
From what I have read, Steam holds monies collected from games sales for 60 days. If that is the case, Steam still has all the money from sales.
Theres a reason why they waited to close on feb 2nd, so they get paid, hope steam sues their ass hard
Purple names and Green names . Pyramid Scheme 🤡 🎠 🤡
I mean there are dum mf who payed a lot of money 😂😂😂, really dum
Maybe you're just broke
I'm just here to spread rumors. "Mythic Entertainment is purchasing Ashes of Creation IP."
So Steven has fled the USA and you guys kickstarted his new stevens island🧑🦽
Did I hear something about they are shutting down the game?
Maybe he wasn’t mentally challenged and seen how dogshit the game was and wasn’t wasting hundreds of dollars on market place copy and paste gameplay.
RIP
is thios True - AOC closing down/we anyt getting a completed game
hi guys should i buy this game?
Copy pasted from alpha two general
The board forced an early access launch, then told Steven in December to terminate 50 employees with no pay or PTO. Steven refused to comply. They argued for two weeks into January, after which the board forced him to terminate only 10 people and still refused to pay PTO. Steven is now paying that PTO out of his own pocket.
The board then voted to terminate 100 more employees and outsource a large portion of the game’s development to the Philippines. Steven again refused. He resigned in an attempt to force the board to reconsider.
After that, the board brought in a cutthroat CEO to replace him. In response, the rest of the leadership team resigned in solidarity. Instead of trying to save the project, the board then decided to terminate the entire team and hand the codebase to fully external teams at a lower cost, paying the original staff no wages or PTO.
Steven is preparing to file a major lawsuit against the board. The board consists of four people from a private equity group, not gamers.
The above information comes from an unverified source and cannot currently be confirmed. However, if it turns out to be true, then I think we owe @idle siren a serious apology for everything we directed at him. At worst, this would point to gross mismanagement, not necessarily malicious intent.
Not my pov, just sharing something that was said by someone else.
Don’t shoot the messenger 
either way game is dead or delayed to 2100 go next
who is quiting? i would like all your gold and gear 🙂
We owe Steven an apology? The guy who said the project was funded to completion which was either a lie or the truth? If it was a lie, fuck him, that's as close to marketing fraud as you can get. If it was the truth, then he mismanaged the company so much that he ended up having to sell out to private equity which resulted in what happened yesterday. Stop meatriding that clown, he's a con artist through and through.
@sullen vortex No chance of recovery of funds, he's already moved assets around to remove liability. If there is a lawsuit in the future, it'll be weeks from now, things like that don't materialize quickly. If it took us 2 hours to get caught up on the details, a lawyer will bill someone 40 hours to do the same.
Is there a lawsuit discord? Not that I think you'll get money back but I like to follow that stuff
Lawsuit discord 🥀
I joined on kickstarter. Will steam refund me? 🤡 lol
He was literally behind the botting and gold selling lol. He knew this was happening and he tried to blatantly rob everyone more than he already had. Think it’s a coincidence all the bots never got banned? Or that just hours before the lay off was announced global chats were being spammed by bots promoting the gold selling website?
What puzzles me is what kind of security those guys have that the CEO can go there and unban people at will xD
what if: AoC comes back and does a second kickstarter to get more funding, and in one sweep adds more cosmetic microtransactions that can help fund it, and adding expensive $100 plus physical houses or even mounts (similar to Star Citizen ships, but lifetime insurance and which you can sell, just like Star Citizen) and this continual incentive makes it worthwhile. think VIP locations just like Star Citizen, spent 1k+?, concierge level locations and perks) i still think what AoC accomplished is incredible. Sure they need more money. Your terms are acceptable. Remember Star Citizen needed nearly $1 Billion to get to where it is. Maybe AoC needs the same amount. MMOs are very expensive to make. Terms are acceptable. My money is ready. The short term gains from letting this go might be good now, but what will you do in ten years from now? You could make FAR more by continuing. become Chris Roberts. Think about it.
I waste my 6 hour cooldown replying to this:
I agree all but one thing, I like artichokes.
Kickstarter to fund a lawsuit to refund the hundreds of thousands of players getting fked for backing this kickstarter, alpha 1 & alpha 2 access and basically being their game testers for two years now ?
Just bcs of the official statement to promise refunds which is now in a loophole bcs it was "released" on steam.
artichokes good
Man, when they said AoC would have world defining politics and factions they weren’t kidding 😂
I’ve Heard this AoC situation is because of Israel, can anyone confirm?
I doubt it.
Hello does anyone know when the next patch is dropping?
It just dropped
Hoping steam start giving refunds. Blatantly a scam and seeing as they get 30% id say they are complicit and therefore liable for a class action
Imagine what a cuck you have had to be, to purchase a 1k pack for a ue5 slop copypaste. Ya'll know the flying lion gorilla butterfly mount? Its the basic version from the unreal engine epic store, for like 350$ hahahaha @trim vapor NW did it on their own engine, aoc is a ue5 copypaste lol
Who did it better? NW or AoC?
The rug pull I mean.
NW, there was a game to play at least.
i still cope for it, that it gets bought by someone
barely
So when we get official news , and servers shut dawn ?
Hellen Wong better not refund my $14 
I got up to level 5 and I still feel ripped off!

6hr slow lode btw.
Except a nuke on everything today and no further communication 
Is their any Carpentry Crafter with 1800 quality? Need craft my Nightrever Shortbow pls
gl
Not what steven said. He said the board made decisions he wasnt ethically okay with.
Of course we know it was the money (he was paying himself and his minions too much) and he just lied cause hes a POS
If this is really a scam I hope every person involved with this gets arrested and jailed, I will report to the authorities /
Everyone is in a frenzy acting like typical internet goblins. Calm down, jeez. We'll get all the details. Just wait. Pratice some patience 😂
it needs to come from a new kicktarter campaign. imo it's the only way we can save this game. just restart the OG one and pretend this never happened
edit: it's the only way we can truly transcend as gamers
Make Ashes Great Again 
lol so mutch potencial wasted dammit
They released on steam just so they could avoid refunding kickstarters. 💀 Since the project technically had a release. They are circumventing the clause that said they would return all money if it never releases
Get LegalEagle on the case 😛
Remember to report ashes of creation as a fraud on steam page 😉
Question, why does Steven have a 😇 emoji next to his name? Is he stupid?
What is ashes of creation
6-hour slow mode is wild… they rate-limited the chat faster than they patched the game.
We got Steved by a sherif..
was anyone able to refund on steam having beyond 2hs of gameplay?
LFM need 2 dps for SHR (Stevens house raid ). Pst
Hello!
Thank you for contacting Steam Support.
I understand your frustration, but no worries, I will explain.
We are investigating this issue further. As soon as we have more information, we will update your ticket.
Steam Support
Alex
too people who want refund i have 30 hours and they still respond me that
I did not use the standard refund , i use the "i have a problem with this purchase " > Not listed and wrote the follwing found into some Steam post
" I am requesting supervisor review of my refund denial for Ashes of Creation. I have submitted two refund requests that were auto-rejected due to playtime, but this situation is exceptional and does not fit standard refund policy parameters.
I have been a Steam customer since 10 years ago and own over 200 games on the platform. This is not a pattern of refund abuse - this is a legitimate exceptional circumstance.
Intrepid Studios issued WARN Act notices on February 1, 2026 stating inability to make payroll. The founder resigned, mass layoffs occurred February 2, 2026, and the game may shut down permanently at any time. The product I purchased - a functioning early access game with ongoing development - no longer exists and may become completely unplayable.
Multiple users are reporting that Steam HAS granted refunds for Ashes of Creation despite playtime over 2 hours, which demonstrates Steam recognizes this as an exceptional circumstance. However, my requests continue to be auto-rejected. I am requesting consistent application of the exception policy that is already being granted to other purchasers."
Ask Luigi , I heard he's pretty good with dealing with CEO
!stream
Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1771009200:F>! The stream will kick off in 3 days 7 hours 31 minutes.
Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation
Is tis bot serious
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no thanks
give me back my money, you bunch of thieves
They are taking the game down aren't thwy
How can i get the refund without steam reject it?
We dont
What did you tell them? to get that response? I get a rep who reverts to “we’re sorry BUT” (in bs 2hr/14day bs)
You didn't understand, it's actually just an early April Fool's joke.
Guys stop bashing myself, the game works.
Unless they officially say the game is effectively dead and out of service, Steam won't refund anyone. Right now I only heard rumors about a shutdown, everyone's just following the ragebait train.
I'm not even playing the game, I found it extremely dull but already spent 40h for my 40€ investment so I'm happy either way.
Other than that, The Day Before happened so some devs really are that stupid as to release a game on Steam and shut it down next day.
Either way, everyone who paid absurd amounts to get into Alpha deserves what's coming at them, why would you spend hundreds, or god forbid, thousands, to test a vertical slice product that advertises itself as alpha.
You sound like a fucking idiot. Go hang yourself fuck face
What are the requirements to post in general. I would like to talk to everyone on there.
Frugal Dave not so frugal buying a scam early access game
Got any other game suggestions?
ArcheAge, Ashes of Creation was based on this game.
Installing it right now, getting back to the roots
EverQuest Next^^
So, the main question is Ashes of Refund? 
When will be news about game?
I don't want a refund. I want someone to take over development.
Done this yesterday 👍
@idle siren made a goy of us all. That PoS cant help it, its in his nature. But 3k years and were still falling for those sweet rat whispers. Keep my money, but we people need to learn and spread the noticing.
When is the private server coming?
It's hilarious because the game will need keep being 'developed' to avoid 40 million dollar theft lawsuit
its only alpha guys, everything is gonna be fixed
Not sure the game is the issue at this point.
It’s only alpha scam guys, everything is gonna be fixed, donate a little more pls for developers
Monday and still no news?
yeah any news ????
its 5 am west coast...
We dont deserve what we got only because we knew the risk of investing in a game in an Alpha. It wasn't about 'testing' the game for many of us. I know for me I didnt drop anymore then I could afford or wanted to, I also understood the game could flop, fail, or end up in this situation years ago. I think you, my friend, as a Steam User who didnt understand the risk of Early Access really got what they deserved. I also think though going to steam knowing full well that people 'dont read the fine print' was a pretty terrible practice especially if their goal was to say they "released" to avoid refunding kickstaters who had the promise of getting their money back if the game didnt manifest. Still those of us in the middle knew what we were doing and the risk of it. Sounds like you didnt.
From the Steam Page explaining what Early Access is (Learn to read before buying) - Also not saying all steam users didnt understand this nor am I saying other peoples feelings are unjustified in this moment but damn its exhausting seeing this shit.
When will these games release?
Its up to the developer to determine when they are ready to 'release'. Some developers have a concrete deadline in mind, while others will get a better sense as the development of the game progresses. You should be aware that some teams will be unable to 'finish' their game. So you should only buy an Early Access game if you are excited about playing it in its current state.
At this point just release the game as it’s. There is nothing better to play and fix stuff as we go. Once the player’s community have dropped shut down the game.
SCAM SCAM SCAM THE ASHES OF CREATION IS A COMPLETE DISASTER!
WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN AMBITIOUS, PLAYER-DRIVEN MMO HAS TURNED INTO NOTHING BUT A CASH GRAB. CONSTANT DELAYS, HALF-BAKED FEATURES, AND SHADY MONETIZATION MAKE IT CLEAR THIS GAME CARES MORE ABOUT EXTRACTING MONEY THAN DELIVERING ANY REAL VALUE.
IF YOU’RE LOOKING FOR A FINISHED MMO, LOOK ELSEWHERE — THIS IS PURE HYPE AND BROKEN PROMISES. SCAM SCAM SCAM
are there any plans to archive the wiki
are they baiting riot to buy their game?
thats not a coincidence on a Friday 13th - is this a conspiracy?
What it seems like to me is the development team wants to do this right but are getting pressured by investors to jump the gun hence the early access release on steam when it isn't ready. Keep in mind this game is very ambitious and requires a lot of work to get it done right. Unfortunately it seems like investors are getting tired of waiting even though I think this would be a gold mine once its ready.
Are people still crying in herr?
Just hit level 25, anyone want to go pvp?
Any news about this?
How im and say every project like this is in first bussiness and working only for money, money to MMO bringing PvE players its 80% off playerbase and all who talk no everithing pay Sherif from own pocet and this is PvP go other games if you dont like nobody need money 😄 I say it will be GG
Umm what
вгзу
kind of feels like a text book 'take the money and run' scenario
Is Steven truly gay and is he a Jew? I’m hearing a lot of this and I don’t know if it’s true.
If you purchased this game on steam, request a refund by sending a ticket to Support.
Requesting a Refund will just be rejected automatically by the system if played for more then 2 hours
So
Go to Steam Support > purchase > AoC > I have a question about this product.
Then explain the situation with as much detail as possible. Especially give examples of Steven being full of shit
People on social media are reporting they have received refunds this way.
im sure steam is doing investigations about it , so useless send support request
fucking hell, scammers rot in hell
Wait all lights before saying this
Has a board took control over it yet or they just gonna sack it off
The doomers are hilarious 😂
Dw lads steevo will refund you all for sure 🤣
If Ashes was a scam it was a good one 😂 
Tel Aviv Steve stealing everybody's Christmas money.
Ashes of Donations
Good morning fellow Pakistanis glory to Pakistan
Should I bye the game heard it’s still not removed from steam. Looks promising
Steam usually gives u a one time refund for a game if its over the time limit, its like a courtesy one, you could ask for that. They dont tell you they do that, but its worth trying.
DO you know if Archeage Chronicles will be an MMORPG ?

Classic rug pull
it is but chrono odysses gonna be better same company anyways time to leave aoc dc hf with canceled game
STEAM ALLOWS REFUNDS FOR THIS GAME BTW
Tu madre tiene una polla
que ya la quisiera yo
me dio pena por tu padre
el día en que se entero
que fue la noche de bodas
¿Quién se iba a imaginar?
que iba a ser a tu padre
al quien lo iban a encular
transexuaaaal!
transexuaaaal!
@idle siren
Does anyone have the link to the class action lawsuit?
tried yesterday, it was denied. and now it is impossible to create another refund request
I am also a fan of the LGBT crowd in the country of Niger. Good for you Trey to show support to those you hold dear in these trying times.
the money from steam was promised to steven 3,000 years ago
so, can we convert this discord to something else?
maybe we can run our own servers of ashes?
it's in the communities hands now.
it was a fucking scam the end.
Why all the whiteknights defending this game H24 disappeared ?
Hello Rina, I noticed you have a profile picture of a very beautiful (but also intelligent looking!) female, and I am under the presumption that this goddess is you? It is quite astonishing to see a female here in the Official discord. I am quite popular around here in this server, so if you require guidance, please throw me a mention. I will assist you at any hour, day or night. And, before you are mistaken, I do not seek your hand in a romantic way; although, I am not opposed in the event you are interested in me, as many women often are. I am a person of standard, and i do not bow to just any female that comes my way, unlike my peers... So rest assured that I will not be in the way of your gaming and socializing experience. Consider me a Player 2... c companion, a partner, and perhaps we can enjoy some video games together some time. I see you play pummel party, and you are good at mini games? I am a mini-game aficionado, so i would be happy to assist you in games. Platonically of course, unless you (like many others) change your mind on that. I look forward to our future together (as friends of course).
This. Scars of Honor genuinely looks good. Refugees head here. Checking out for my 6 hour timer. Funny reacts only.
Ban Zurak. He’s a stalker.
Hello Rina, I noticed you have a profile picture of a very beautiful (but also intelligent looking!) female, and I am under the presumption that this goddess is you? It is quite astonishing to see a female here in the Official discord. I am quite popular around here in this server, so if you require guidance, please throw me a mention. I will assist you at any hour, day or night. And, before you are mistaken, I do not seek your hand in a romantic way; although, I am not opposed in the event you are interested in me, as many women often are. I am a person of standard, and i do not bow to just any female that comes my way, unlike my peers... So rest assured that I will not be in the way of your gaming and socializing experience. Consider me a Player 2... c companion, a partner, and perhaps we can enjoy some video games together some time. I see you play pummel party, and you are good at mini games? I am a mini-game aficionado, so i would be happy to assist you in games. Platonically of course, unless you (like many others) change your mind on that. I look forward to our future together (as friends of course).
What other MLMs can people invest? Any suggetions? Maybe stevens mother is launching something new?
ASHES OF CREATION TEAM AND GAME STUDIO ARE BUNCH OF SCAMMERS. THIS GAME IS A SCAM THROW THEM IN JAIL FOR FRAUDULENT CHARGES
2:30hrs more and Servers Gonna shut down
You have been reported.
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Watch your back and get used to this face kiddo, you'll be seeing a lot of it.
This has to be a joke.
sooooo whos all going back to Eve online??
I once met Belle Delphine (I call her Belle) on the street. I shook her hand, and I guess my muscular grip was impressive because she started playing with her hair and biting her lip. She asked for my Snapchat, but I told her I got banned for being based—calling out libtards and feminists online. The same thing happened with Instagram. "But hey," I said, "you can have my Twitter account. I'm not banned there because Elon (always capitalize His name, kiddo) is a true free speech warrior. He saved the West." She asked me out on a date, but I told her, "sorry gal, i have a WoW guild to run" and walked away.
I heard her crying
Any updates from intrepid?
I heard the game isn’t a scam from some copers on Reddit should I buy it?
Wtf why has this just turned into a bunch of pathetic loser making up stories about meeting people and otherwise harassing women and other often targetted groups???
Steven backdoored all of us because he was tired of the only one being backdoored
This chat is more fun then I had playing the actual game
🚨 IMPORTANT INTREPID STUDIOS ANNOUNCEMENT 🚨
After an intense internal discussion lasting almost 7 minutes, we have made the difficult but exciting decision to lay off literally everyone at Intrepid Studios (including the coffee machine).
🎩 Steven Sharif has courageously stepped aside to “focus on vibes” and will now be consulting exclusively via Discord emojis.
We are thrilled to announce that Ashes of Creation is now under new leadership:
🏴☠️ PirateSoftware (former Blizzard guy, current internet pirate, part-time MMO philosopher) has officially taken over as:
Executive Producer
Creative Director
Lead Programmer
Balance Team
Discord Mod
Node System (the node is him)
What this means for Ashes of Creation:
Alpha 2 delayed to “when it feels right”
Combat redesigned to be Soulslike, but tab-targeted
Every mount is now a crab 🦀
Cash shop removed, replaced with vibes
If a node dies in-game, PirateSoftware personally explains why on stream for 4 hours
All future updates will be announced exclusively via:
Thank you for your continued passion, patience, and willingness to believe anything you read on the internet.
🔥 THIS IS GOOD FOR THE GAME 🔥
— Intrepid Studios
(now just PirateSoftware on a laptop)
Well mmos are dead whats new
Man, at this point Steven is making PirateSoftware look good - XD at least he can deliver a game.
i'm going back to play Everquest 1...err...i mean,,,,Pantheon: Rise of the fallen...sorry, i keep confusing those two
Have the servers actually come down yet?
?
Hello Rina, I noticed you have a profile picture of a very beautiful (but also intelligent looking!) female, and I am under the presumption that this goddess is you? It is quite astonishing to see a female here in the Official discord. I am quite popular around here in this server, so if you require guidance, please throw me a mention. I will assist you at any hour, day or night. And, before you are mistaken, I do not seek your hand in a romantic way; although, I am not opposed in the event you are interested in me, as many women often are. I am a person of standard, and i do not bow to just any female that comes my way, unlike my peers... So rest assured that I will not be in the way of your gaming and socializing experience. Consider me a Player 2... c companion, a partner, and perhaps we can enjoy some video games together some time. I see you play pummel party, and you are good at mini games? I am a mini-game aficionado, so i would be happy to assist you in games. Platonically of course, unless you (like many others) change your mind on that. I look forward to our future together (as friends of course).
run the reddit jerk*rs are back
SCAM OF CREATION

ashes of cremation XD
Where is the Steven's original message about his resignation?
The most ironic part is that the name of this project implies it was never meant to be from the start. Who knew scammers could be poetic 😂
So collective law suit?
Honestly, as someone who is in the middle of designing a physics simulation (from the ground up, no unreal or godot or commercial engine), this is a horrible feeling for me. The physics simulation has a player-facing game as its first release... and now I'm afraid to even utter the words "MMO"...
Sad that one bad apple can ruin a bunch...
I can make a limited statement in my personal capacity and not on behalf of the company, regarding the situation. Control of the company shifted away from me, and the Board began directing actions that I could not ethically agree with or carry out. As a result, I chose to resign in protest rather than lend my name or authority to decisions I could not ethically support. Following my resignation, much of the senior leadership team resigned. Following those departures, the Board made the decision to issue WARN Act notices and proceed with a mass layoff.
I cannot responsibly speak to further details at this time due to ongoing legal and governance matters. What I can say is that the developers and staff acted in good faith and deserved better than the uncertainty they are now facing. I am incredibly dismayed by the situation.
— Steven Sharif
they should just sell the mechanics to Lucas Arts and use it to reboot SWG at this point
Even Star Citizen only required 35$ for alpha backing. It's insane not getting a product with the high price of the alpha packages.

whats the chances someone takes it over?
Is the live show on February 13 still on?
how do i redeem my scarab? 🪲
@idle siren
What MMO we playing now chat ? Hardcore Vanilla WoW? Ultima Outlands ?? Mortal Online 2 ??
Isn't it fraud to claim you have all the money to finish the game and then (some) ppl buy it because of that very reason and at some point you go sike mommy and daddy cant agree so we're getting a divorce goodluck ?
Right aristocrat reputation is done after 50h of farming... now what?
Goddamn.
Revive Archeage again I guess?
Has mortal 2 gotten any better to play or does it still feel like a sack of potatoes?
WARN Act requires a 60 day notice of closure, so everyone isnt just GONE
They have to continue going to work for the next 2 months to receive a paycheck
To the homie above me asking about Mortal Online 2; The game is worse than it was 18 months ago. They combat got even worse
yep
Is there any announcement anywhere from Intrepid studios on this shiz ?
prolly a big plan because he knew he couldn't deliver SMH Scammers!
Yes, the company is preparing a new MMORPG, and I think it will be released in 10 years.
we should do a gofundme for aoc 😮
When should you download the Erenor update?
calling bullsh*t on that.. im on my 10th attempt right now.. 9 denials lol
When did you made the attemps?
Did they just stop making this game?
I’ve seen lots of posts saying the director just quit
so WTF does happen to the game now? hello, is there ANYBODY left at intrepid studios? can SOMEONE please give us ANY info on wtf is gonna happen? how long server stay online? HELLOOO====!?!??!?!?! NOONE THERE? ------> AND WHY ARE U STILL SELLING THE GAME ON STEAM YOU BASTARD SCAMER BTCHES
Will there be refunds or what I bought this game in 2021 hoping full realase
gay if read
Key Legal and Financial Issues
SADA Systems, LLC v. Intrepid Studios, Inc. (2025): A lawsuit filed in New York Supreme Court alleging over $850,000 in unpaid fees for Google Cloud Platform services.
Insurance/Other Lawsuits: Reports indicated additional litigation from insurance providers.
Financial Distress/WARN Act (2026): Following the resignation of founder Steven Sharif and other senior leaders, the Board reportedly initiated mass layoffs, issuing WARN Act notices due to inability to meet payroll, signaling potential closure.
Investor Disputes (2025): Earlier legal challenges involved allegations of denied access to corporate financial records by investors.
Other Legal Conflicts
Streamline Media (2020): Intrepid was previously involved in a lawsuit with contractor Streamline Media regarding contractual disputes and unpaid assets.
As of early February 2026, the studio's future is in jeopardy following the reported mass layoffs and leadership departures.
Can someone help me bypass exceeded 2h whn refunding from steam, dm@please ty ❤️
lol - you can't post links. If you search for escapistmagazine and ashes creation shutdown ... this game is dead
nice troll.... we know there was no balance team
I had a fun time for a whole month. The pvp, guild war, PK caravan and cozy conversations with like-minded people. I don't regret the purchase. How many AAA projects have I bought and played for less than 10 hours? Many. Here I spent about 800 hours.
In case anyone missed it
It was better than modern warefare 2.0 butlol this game was still a scam
Damn dude 6 hour wait to say something is crazy I really hate when I fat finger and accidently push se
thats not how i imagined the server wipe, but we got it 
What does this mean for the Carolina panthers
Just sent mine thanks for the tip
Lmfao only Elon Musk can save us
This game died faster than chronicles of Elyria did yeah?
Im online having a blast!!
ragequitter battybwoy
i'm just here to watch the trashcan burn ❤️ you all have been the most entertaining
are the servers down or we cant continue playing until february 13th that they officially tell us that we are fugged up?
I support the teams who made and the one who will make this awesome game happen.
go touch some grass and keep your money
The only 2 person on the board are Steven and his boyfriend. So basically he argued with his boyfriend or what ?
Still up. People even guild recruiting in game 
Probably a tale as old as time, scope creep freaked out the original team and the best alternative was to sell to the Chinese who will put sweat shop workers on the job of making it a barely functional game that they can charge premium currency on.
I hope you like being even broker then now Steven we are suing you for false advertisement and stealing money
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That’s what he hopes for yall think probably
People just don't learn.
No Company outside to rescue ashes?
yes need rescue
Nobody is giving any explanation about the current state of the game ?
do we know when servers shutting down?
11 days
can some tel its shuttt or not i hope not and some start work
I feel like I am doing pretty well in pve so far as summoner. Just trying to find a way or strat to keep my summons up longer. Will this be an issue in pvp later? Any advice welcome 🙏 🤗
Which Caribbean island is steven vacationing on right now? What drink is the board of directors sipping on as he laughs all the way to the bank?
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A wipe will be on February 3rd, they wrote on Reddit, and the game's director has changed, now the servers will move to Germany.
link in pm please
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Highguard and Ashes of Creation crossover is currently underway.
Gayyyyyyy
I'm currently working on a new project with the one and only Steven aka creamgobbler the game is Moo Moo Oogka and it's about milking cows and gearing up your tiddy milky weapon before glistering it in knob juice it's up on Diggstarter I'd appreciate some funding
@idle siren Why are you such a cuck?
i cant find this 🙁
link me plz pm
@idle siren Дырка, дай инфу, твою залупу возврвщать или нет?
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Mark Jacobs syndrome at best
So is this game gone? Or buy it?
wait for news
Any further info from Steven Scamrif?
HE was right all along, wasn’t he? He was right. He saw what all you imbeciles didn’t want to see. Good. Anyone who bought jpegs for 200 dollars deserves this
When do I get my cosmetics?
go back to reddit bro lol no one cares
guys they're not giving anyone's money back. they'll do a dogshit release, keep ts on life support for a few years, and when it finally shuts down, you'll realize you'll never see your money again. no class actions, no real game, no nothing
The board directors are having gae secs right now on a Caribbean island
Now imagine Star Citizen, the game with almost a billion in funding, gets cancelled the week after 💀
I’m using my one 6 hour message to say, fuck you @idle siren
Peter
What's with all the Israeli flags? Sharif is Arab lol
I heard this was all intentional to create a great mmorpg just to cuck it, enraging the nations to fulfil the "time of Jacob's trouble" (Jeremiah 30:7) prophecy so they can summon their god 🤔
Damn did this discord turn into a cess pool quickly
You must be new here.
well ya theres no staff to moderate anymore
What i find actually disgusting it's not the fact that they are going to shut down (it's obviously crazy, but, you know, nowdays everything is crazy), but the fact that they didn't even had the decency to make an official statement about when the servers will shut down. It's the peak of insult to all players
And btw, why the hell still 6 hours cd to write a post....
That’s @sacred ingot ‘s job now
I can agree with that but something to consider is that we just don't know what will happen. If the game and IP is sold off it could continue but that seems like a hard take due to lack of planning and full direction of the game. In the end "it will be done when its ready" type of management just isn't good business
I just raised a dispute for the purchase through revolut since i bought it through their website. WIll let you know if anything good comes out of it
@idle siren already on a plane to Israel With all our money
Steven Sharif.
SS.
Coincidence?
???
Wonder how long they knew this was going to happen. Companies don’t collapse overnight
They do not but as an ex employee of Peloton, they can be shut down and layoff like it happened here
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Companies do indeed collapse overnight when all upper management resigns in protest lol
Trump is president anything goes
I wonder how many people will actually be in their stream on the 13th
Question: Will AoC's shutdown bring about WW3?
Do you think they gonna reveal paladin Gameplay on next dev stream ?
join me in Guild Wars 2 lol, new Raid tomorrow
Release date announcement probably
The next reveal was going to be the class combos reveal.
EVERYONE JOIN ARCHEAGE CLASSIC FUCK STEVEN SCAMMER ASS BIATCH @idle siren
Yall did not learn history, never trust a jew or such things happen.
I have run out of witty remarks so just here for the 6 hour timer now. It provides more content then we will ever see added to AoC.
I'm still getting the gilded scarab, guys, right, right?
@idle siren atleast say sorry instead of playing it out as hero you greedy jew
Think im gonna wait for Darkfall 2.0 then. Tasos said it will release Q2
How can we get our momey back from steam? They already denied my request last night. What a bait it was to release on steam, this should be illegal
Any STAFF to give us a OFICIAL SHUTDOWN?
Are folks getting refunds or nah?
If you manage getting to steam support people you might get the refund
Why don't you wait until the game is actually taken down to file a claim lol. Currently, the game is still a game you can launch and play on Steam.
I'm curious to see if this is really the end or if someone is going to pick this game up (and no I didn't pay for the game, just in general)
if you are looking to play with 3000 bots then yeah its still a game lol
THATS BS, PLENTY OF US PLAYTING STILL.
Steven will have a new game out in a couple of years, a new dream because he wasn’t the bad guy here, it was the “board” that ripped his dream away. Another way to scam more people
bear in mind the game industry failures who saw AoC succeeding are spiraling like vultures after their own games crashed and burned. they're out for blood and are laughing like hyenas out to gang up on the mmo king. don't confuse this with real players who bought the game and still want it to continue and don't really care if they ask for more money and turn AoC into the medieval fantasy mmo version of Star Citizen with a $1 Billion budget. Star Citizen has its own vultures who are incredibly mad that someone like Chris Roberts could gather $1 Billion for their game while their AAAAA games flopped. They're very mad that Ashes of Creation reached 31,882 concurrent players on Steam during its early access launch in mid-December 2025. If you cannot prove purchase of the game you shouldn't have an opinion of it worth taking seriously.
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Just want to give a special fuck you for everyone who acted like doing maintenance at the same time every day was acceptable. Enjoy perpetual maintenance!
No thanks. ArcheAge Classic is P2W piece of shit.
No announcements, it's definitely a crash, zero survivors at AOC
definitely they can, would just be a much higher burden of proof. but certainly possible.
EVEN IF IT WASNT RUN BY SCAMMERS THIS GAME OWULDA FAILED. COMMUNITY IS FULL OF WHINY PVE ONLY TURDS THAT WATERED THE VISION DOWN SO THAT WE ENDED UP WITH CRAPPY ASS CORRUPTION SYSTEM. WHAT A DUMB SYSTEM TO ADD TO THE GAME. IT SUCKED! ALL THEY NEEDED WAS LAWLESS PVP ZONES AND IT OWULDA BEEN FUN. FUCKING IDIOTS
anyone leaving on lynth server i could sue your gear and gold
How are you guys getting a refund, steam is rejecting it for me
this human is butthurt.
I got my hours to dollar ratio. So I got my moneys worth
bro that's like ordering a cheeseburger at mcdonalds but only getting a 3 year old moldy bun from under the fryer table and then saying ''atleast ill not go hungry today''
Just got the game is it fun guys
Uses UE5 still had shit graphics. Shitty cosmetics, shit characters. No talent in the company at all.
is there any official statement to be found or is this game cancellation just a rumor?
check pins
officially over. ceo quit,everyone is fired.any info when servers are offline?
u can skip the timer if you edit your msg btw ^^
Star Citizen is coming out soon and it's going to be great!
@foggy otter why bother spending time for it then? Just leave and take your opinions with you?
Said little Timmy, with hope in his eyes, circa 2004
Yoooo so not only is @idle siren a scammer, but he be getting his back blown out by Manly Dih??.
Why is the game still available to buy on Steam? Where is official announcement as to what the flying fluck is going on?
bro who is going to make the announcement everyone quit
Everyone was fired
I suggest that everyone go put in a refund and in the reason why , suggest that Steam gonna also be involved in the Class action Lawsuit to follow this news, and they need to refund their users and set a standard and go after Steven and Intrepid themselves and set the standard that Steam wont be used for Scams like this . just a suggestion.
Kill all CEOs 🙂
Some of yall are deranged 🤣
Ashes of cremation...
the thirst is real
What stream bro there is no employees. Do you join streams for your past jobs and run the events for them?
Ey Copium Clinic guy, put your videos back up so people can clown you coward.
SPOT ON!!
Imagine this was all a PR stunt to get more people to talk about the game...all press is good
Press....
Holy, 6 hours of slow mode over here? Why?
Lmao Star Citizen fans already KNOW the game is never coming out. Big difference.
Ashes Of Cremation
How do I get a refund for purchase through the main website?
Perhaps the Jews are to blame for this
@junior ember Any news?
You ain't getting one big dog
fuck you steve shariff!!!
the servers shut off yet?
Whats with the whole jew and Palestine thing going on here ? The hell does that have to do with this game lol
bought this for me and the mrs can i get my £80 please steven...
Does anyone want to suck my balls?
Steven’s could’ve. He owns this discord.. he is the board lmao. He fired everyone. Along with his lil hubby
<@&519722995778977812> <@&542059693779058748> Will we get an update as to what is happening to the state of the game? dont want to waste more time logging in if the servers are going offline later today. Please advise
What is happening, should i be worried? Why is everyone making it sound like this game is ending?
hi guys, new here! can't wait for full release, this game seems fun! 🙂
anyone tryin have esex or nah?
Hello ! Iam new too. If i buy a package now, will I be able to play ?
Your guess is as good as mine. I hope so though
what a farce
cal
Could go Play Wurm Online instead it’s been around since the early 2000’s 😅
Guys i just bought the game on steam. Anyone wanna play with me?
bought the game seconds ago, when will be released?
thank god midnight is about to launch
Who thinks that maybe new MMOs are not a thing we’ll ever see again? At least in the way we think of them (AoC, WoW, ESO, BDO, NW, etc.)?
Any guilds recruiting new members?
Go the quinfall
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those bastards even scammed this discord bot
Honestly your guess is as good as mine. We're working with the same amount of information sadly...
What’s the over/under on Steven being in the files 
No official statement tells us all that we should have never supported this shit company in the first place
We all should let it go and allow it to burn
is there any refunds?
this guys mad
Me and my friends are going to buy the game today what should we do when we spawn in
@sterile palm
Yeah, a stream where you show all our money in a bathtub and dive in like Scrooge McDuck, while sipping champagne and kissing a sibling.
Mute me again motherfuckers
Darkfall Rise of Agon is where it's at
where can i bet that amazon is gonna buy this in about a week
You may want to rething buying the game.
I wonder whats going on in the alpha two main voice
It is the wild west. Mostly disgusting behavior lol
but aint you in contact with the community manager? not even a statement from their side..
this is the most unprofesional behaviour ive ever seen from a company
see you in 6h
What community manager 
Are the servers still allegedly shutting down today?
^
WAIT WHAT!? Game is cancelled? Wtf?
Yeah..we got scammed
The game never existed, brother, it was all a big hoax to take your money...
There is no way they didn't saw this coming when they released on steam. Im not saying the game itself was always a scam. But the steam release was def just milking for whatever money they could get