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he may have read that when buying early access you get 1 free sub at launch, and mistakenly believed the game had sub fees at early access
10-4 ty
So, I bought the game last night and have been playing at my native frame rate, perfectly fine then out of no where my game crashes and I can NOT get back into the game at all...
I even repaired the files
what error do you get?
Honestly I didn't log it because I thought it was just a regular UE crash and I'd be able to jump back in
But like i REALLY cant get back in. If I make it past the initial loading screen which for some reason takes a long time now my game bricks at loading into the world
Once it hits the loading screen it freezes up
I'm on a PC more than capable of running the game and I installed on an SSD. Like I said I was playing fine for like 2 hours before this happened
Try making another toon and loading it. Give your other crashed toon a few min.
Good call my friend already told me to do that but unfortunately it did the same thing
Nvidea card?
I repaired like 3 times already and left my PC off over night
anti virus exception
2080TI I know it'd old but the rest of my PC is a 9600x with 32 DDR5 ram
btw, game is running fine on linux now, with latest proton
I only got malwarebytes but I'll take a look
ptr also? im playing the standart server for 2 days
I haven't tested PTR yet, but I'd be surprised if it didn't.
obligatory: it runs better than on Windows
yeah how do you know someones a linux user? we tell them XD
have you tried starting at another zone with the 2nd character?
I haven't but if I can manage to get to character creator I'll try that
Thank you
oh wait so you can't even get that far?
Some times
Like it either hangs on the initial load or sometimes it take slike 3 seconds to load to the main menu lol
Like this crashes really fucked something p
I still think its antivirus related
I allowed the permissions through Malware bytes now
Or excluded the file of the game and the launcher to see
usually this kind of mid-loading freeze crash has to do with an issue with a location.
like either a specific server is down (aoc servers are decentralized, basically the world is a grid of a ton of servers), and then it doesn't allow you to log in with characters there
yeah it could be antivirus.. although it's weird if it took so long to manifest a false positive
Its the same symptoms as the other antivirus struggling people
Its malwarebytes tho
Well so, The initial loading sometimes hangs, or takes forever or only takes 2 seconds. No inbetween then if I eventually get to the main menu and to login to my character the loading screen to load into the world you can BARELY see in the background but its just stuck at a black screen
Malware bytes hasnbt had a scan in a week as well
BUt I still gave the games and launcher files access to be ignored
Just in case
Okay so I'm logging onto the realm now I'll take a screenshot of what I see
I'' try a new toon on the other starting location to see if that does anything
@idle siren pls bring it on Gforce now, if you go for Steam 🙏🏻
As soon as I click create
If you click the right image you can barely see the loading screen pop up
And its immediately stuck
I've never seen that. Honestly, I'd recommend a clean install
I can make out that it's Insta crashing on compiling shaders at 58
Yea repairing doesn't seem to be working for me so probably a fresh download and reinstall will unfortunately probably be the next best option
first go to C://Users/(personal)/Appdata/Local folder and delete the AOC folder.
ok let me try that
wait I think this'll actually fix it, so i'm taking 33% of credit by saying this
you can also try tuning down graphics settings before char creation, or updating graphics drivers

I think I'm still going to delete that file though to be sure
maybe it was the anti virus thing
Who... Who wins here I'm confused
Maybe the new toon in a seperate area is what kicked it in? Last time I waited 5 minutes and that black screen for nothing to load
But it did eventually kick in this time
Was it dns
Or yea could be the anti virus honestly Idk
Well I appreciate y'all for helping me lolol
I'm going to delete the folder though still later on because this seems like somethign that will happen again if I restart the game. Like I said last night I was trying multiple times to nothing so
Still antivirus most likely due to it being shaders it dumped on consistently . Same as others
Have fun 🍻
Thanks yall lol I'm going to delete the folder now anyways just to try so I can making logging in more consistent 😛
If it ain't broke.. gl lol
Game is down until the 11th?
Nope, A2 is up right now. It’ll go down on Dec 1st and PTR will be online from Dec 2 - 10
Gotcha, I keep black screening when I try and load
Scroll up slightly for topical information on this 👉👉
I was able to login to where I crashed at I'm unsure of what is/was mainly causing the issues but regardless it seems fixed. Thank you guys! @stark kettle @slow blade @tribal solar
yeah mine gets caught up when it hits the shaders thing
anti virus exception
computer noob no clue how to fix that, guess i'll google it
How is tanking in the PTR compared to now?
The class atm is the same, so in that regard nothing changed. What change was that they did some balance passes to stats/gear and pve difficulty
Got ya, from what I read on reddit it seems like Tank is pretty bad and being pricey compared to others for repairs and such is that true?
Well, I can't tell you exactly as I haven't tested state of pve difficulty. What I can say is tanks are the first do die when things go wrong. So if things go wrong often, you'll often be paying the repairs. Depends on the current difficulty and the group you hang with
but tanks are a lot more tanky in PTR so maybe its less bad
With the game coming to steam will you be able to run the game on linux
yes, you just need to make sure you have the latest proton version
Sick moving to Linux fully now lol windows 11 is a resource hog
@ember quail @slow blade wanted to ask the same question just right now 😄 seems that the linux community isnt that small
i am so thrilled to test it when it is on steam i found the game today but only when linux is working f
also will the game be cheaper than 100$ on Steam ?
it'll be 42.49 for the firs 2 weeks after EA launch, then $50
@ember quail @thin stump just to clarify, you need Proton-GE, not normal Proton.
AFAIK people had issues with normal Proton. (It may or may not work.)
But with Proton-GE the game runs flawlessly.
@tribal solar thanks for the info i nearly always use proton-ge latest for my game i only use proton-em for games with hdr support
I'm using Faugus launcher, haven't tried direcly with Steam, but i assume it'll work that way too.
@tribal solar just got a litte nervous cause i read from bans that occured with linux
Apparently EAC IS running, but it's missing some log lines from the Windows version.
But I think we're fine (still waiting for an official statement, but i'm not sure we'll ever get one.)
You can read this comment/thread for more info: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/511085/#Comment_511085
ok but you are playing on linux and dont have problems right
I haven't been playing for a long time since the bans 
I just started playing recently after someone found that EAC does start after all.
ok but maybe we as a community should speak loud here on the discord. I think we are not that small of a group that it is ok to let us die dumb
I already have a feedback thread for this, but you won't be able to see it without a game key.
basically it's about asking them to not let the game start unless EAC is running in the background.
that'd be a nice guard rail for linux users
i think that would not only benefit us but all users
at least from what i have read the linux users got the accounts back
i hope they sort this out until steam launch
there are many people out there with steamdecks and so on
I'm not sure people with steam decks will be able to run this.. although maybe on low/medium 
i dont know if it runs i will anyway play on my pc
but i dont want to install windows to do so
a lot of linux users here 👍
Got some questions regarding pvp.
I know after lvl 10 it's fair game, you can be attacked or whatever.
But, what if I'm out questing and get killed do I get exp debt?
If I heal a party member that's being attacked unprovoked, do I get flagged?
yes to both (if your friend fought back)
Exp debt for being pkD, rough.
If I'm being attacked, choose not to fight them and just heal myself. Do I get flagged as well?
no, you only get flagged if you fight back or support someone who is pvping
Avg fps both out and in city?
Ty @slow blade
btw, the odds of someone randomly killing you for no reason at all if you don't fight back are minimal, its not an issue in the current state of the game
until the new people and do it just because or because they didn't know better
Yeh, that's why im asking questions.
New people coming in and grieving just because.
Or anyone really
doesn't really happen unless ppl want to contest your grind spot or something more endgame. If you're running around doing quests, doing your professions, it aint happening
if you don't fight back and they kill you, they go red(corrupted) and if killed can/will lose gear, like 1-3 pieces, maybe more depending on the corruption level, so penalty can be steep....then they have to get it removed, so unless they get someone they know to kill them and give them the gear back... since once red they can't remove it either...
I do remember that part, you have to do PvE to lower the corruption.
Has anyone tried PTR yet? Does it run smoother than other versions?
PTR varies widly. Sometimes its unplayable some times is smoother than live. Depends on how much they are working on optimization
What does max vendors mean On December 1st?
And will those special mounts be purchasable with Embers currency on December 1st?
means they will probably give ppl boosts to max level and endgame gear and mounts. I dont think there will be mounts to buy no
Oh alright thanks. 🫡
i got a question there is 18 biomes in the game map and only 1 is aviable as for rn does anyone knows if any other biomes are finished or done ? because aoc has been 10 years on alpha for only 5% of the map
there are 5 biomes available rn
oh i though the riverlands was 1 biome i know there is the desert but i dint count it as biome cuz is not finished can you give me detail on that im counfused [i havent played the game yet just gattering info}
There are the riverlands, the tropics, the jundark, the desert and the anvils. The riverlands is more fleshed out as their priority right now has been testing systems and not expanding the content. No biome is finished, not even the riverlands. The other biomes do have nodes and events and content, its just a lot less than riverlands
mmmm got it can i ask your opinion on how much time would take for launch or at least beta state ?
well I can't know that because I don't have inside information, but what I can tell you is that they are aiming for first beta sometime late next year. So I'm assuming launch is probably around mid 2027
wow that seems way to early for what i expected a 2030 release but 2027-2028 is not bad hope they can make everything work out
What happens if players kill you? Do you lose gear, xp?
You only lose gear if you yourself are corrupted (if you kill an innocent player, you turn red which is corrupted). If you're a non-combatant or a combatant you will never lose gear. Everyone loses a portion of the materials that they're carrying at that time on death such as Logs, Herbs, Ore, the amount changes depending on your flagging status.
You go into a small amount of XP debt when you die in both PvE or PvP
Ok thank you
Are fighters any good or are they just a meme for now lol
Fighters have a niche and are really good inside of that niche.
is there a way to track target focus of party members or atleast if a party member is activley targeted by a mob
yes there is target of target.
sweet ty
Embers currency is for the cosmetic cash shop after "live launch". The event on Dec 1st will have (possible, not confirmed) vendors that allow people to skip to max level and get various gear and mounts that will all be wiped after the event. The mount skin you may be asking about is the one the can be gained after getting to level 25 from fresh start on Dec 11th. The thing you get for logging in during Prod previous to the wipe is two titles that can be applied to your character at some future date when those options are implemented that change the color of a cloak that you get. Steam purchasers also get the cloak after Dec 11th, they just won't have those two titles to change the color.
Is there a way to see in game what recipes we have learned besides clicking on them in the inventory?
Click P
at live rn I think you can't see yet, but on PTR the recipes you have not learned are greyed out
thanks yall! 🙂
anyone know why its been like this for over an hour?
ive tried verifying, completely reinstalling, disabling antivirus, restarting router and all the good stuff
try vpn
like reinstall or repair with vpn
Mmmmm, I guess I jumped to conclusions, just try to turn on the vpn, restart the launcher. It's quite possible that everything will work.
i might be out of the loop for a bit. Can we Alpha users use Steam to log into the game?
I'll plug in later and see how its doing now
lose some exp and some matterials like glint ,wood . really no big deal.
@terse dew alpha users can only use steam to logg in if you manually add the game by using add a non steam game to my library option
@tardy gazelle i found loading was freezing and took a couple of attempts to get in
This is not true. Everyone will play from Steam, alpha and beta key owners will be required to transfer there.
@tribal solar thanks maybe i miss understood previous chat if everyone will be using steam when will the keys be sent out
so as a alpha 2 user, i must go to steam?
yep, seems like it'll be a forced transition.
(as of the latest news, but this might change)
Yes, no additional purchase required. DL happens entirely through steam, it pops up AoC launcher that you just click play on now. (As of latest news)
Does anyone know if the summoner will be able to summon multiple pets at the same time, either with their main class or with a summoner subclass as well?or both at the same time?
Right now it can't.
Not sure about the subclass augments.
3 pets oooh, How does it effect Tanks like the way the Duo-class system was described in a video I watched is your first class choice determines your skills and the then your second class choice Augments those skills, so If I pick Summoner then pick tank that's how in theory I should get the big tank like pet.
Does anyone know what happens if I do the reverse; Pick a Tank then take Summoner as a secondary class will it cause my Tank abilities to be summoned like a Summon a Shield.... the theory I can only imagine seems kind of underwhelming.
I don't think even Intrepid knows how each of the secondaries will exactly work at this point, we can only guess.
I'm looking for a Russian-speaking guild
A question: does Ashes have a system where, after you get stunned/CC’d, you can’t be stunned/CC’d again for a while, like in the best RvR games such as DAOC or Warhammer Online?
Diminishing returns is indeed a planned mechanic.
Not just planned, DR has been in for some time:
(this is from a stream)
DR is nothing more than a crutch for lazy devs
stun DR is a requirement for good PvP IMO
stat DR is a different beast though, i half-agree with that
Sorry, should have been clearer "planned" as they are working on it.
Why would you need dr on stuns lol it's Effect X lasts for Y seconds. You would only need to add dr to stuns when you start adding multiple layers to stun which is only found in the worst games.
Like Lost ark pvp 🤢
sure, as long as it's 1v1, but it's very rarely 1v1 in AoC
they are planning large scale fights too
Got it in one. Intrepid uses combinations from different players on different archetypes to adjust CC effects and debuffs. This not something new they adjusted from testing. It has been planned for years. As to whether you think it is worst or not, is subjective, but it is what you are going to get.
right but even in large scale simplicity works best
How would dr work on stuns lol DR is only used for potency.
This is Questions. They asked, it was answered. If you have feelings, take it to the discussion channels or post in the feedback ones. Once of course you link your account so you have access to them meaning you are actually playing the game and have feedback from actually touching those system as they are being developed now.
And I'm asking questions lol Do you not know what a question is? Should I link an online dictionary for you?
The intention is that there will be no "permastun" that allows you to lose control over your character for extended periods of time. The developers have expressed in livestreams and interviews that in their opinion such play is "unfun" and not desired here.
Immunity has nothing to do with DR. So basically the devs have no idea what Diminishing returns even are and are haphazardly using it as a buzzword which ultimately leads to the spread of false information.
You can feel as you like. As said before, leave them feedback about how the devs are clueless and not making things the way you imagine. Bit of warning though, the head guy tends to make short shrift of anyone who comes after his developers. Him, you can slam on all day. His team, yeah, not so much. Good luck.
I'm not slamming on their ability, just the use of incorrect terminology which ultimately leads to the spread of misinformation people are going to be expecting a Diminishing return system that doesn't even exist.
That's not a subjective opinion but an objective fact.
Will the game undergo a wipe with the steam access?
Yes, there are 2 confirmed wipes so far:
- 1 on the 11st with the Steam EA launch
- 1 on the game launch (which is likely years away)
this doesn't mean that there won't be more wipes between these 2, but Intrepid is trying their best not to wipe unless it's absolutely necessary.
which one server is best for an West Australian player
What time is the wipe?
People are going to be expecting a finished game something this product is not.
i load in but quickly get booted back to menu
if beta will be in 2026 then its pretty possible it will launch late 27
yeah
Anyone still expecting this game to be finished need to be tested for early in set dementia or something
the fuck you talking bout, have you ever played poe while it was being tested?
this game already looks 10x better than that crap then
i completely misread it, mb 
i appologize (or at least I hope I did
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Which PoE? Path of exile or pillar of eternity?
path of exile ofc
the only issue is that it still lacks a TON of sturctured PvE content, which your average player wants from an MMORPG.
other than that I agree.
What I mean in general is that people visiting the Early Access Ashes of Creation page don’t even bother to read what’s written there.
wouldnt agree 100% with that, imo it lacks dungs and probably quests are the thing to be worked on, but what else? We got world bosses, what else pve content mmo needs at the start? And ofc i hope it will be PvP focused mmo, as it will gain tons of players which do not have mmo to play rn. They've closed new world, EVE is 100 years old game with weird combat and albion is ugly as fuck (yet enjoyable). There's lack of PvP mmo's, pve ones are plenty. Every asian mmo right now is pve focused
imo it lacks dungs and probably quests are the thing to be worked on, but what else
that's exactly what I'm talking about.
it's lacking casual, structured PvE content that the majority of players usually consume, hence it'll be hated on my many of them and they'll say "there is nothing to do" after lvl 10.
PoE testing was 2012 unless you mean their alpha test which was 2010 which meant the GPU of the time would have been the AMD Radeon HD5000 series I would hope this game looks 10x better 15 years after poe alpha.
yeah i agree with dungs, it should have repatable thingy to do and farm
even poe2 right now has 1/50 of its prommised content, yet i dont see that much ppl yapping about it 🙂
poe2 didn't change to a different gaming genre half way through production then change genres again when it flopped
and?
im talking about promised content - the thing that hurts you the most
not to mention that they've already achieved a huge milestone with networking
server meshing and dynamic gridding is something special
You should stick to your peoples strength like becoming cleaners instead of trying to talk down because it's not working out very well
What hypocrisy? I never claimed GGG delivered a finished product.
still you are defending it, while not finished product from interpid really hurts your feeling, that much you have to yap about it every single day
Defending what I never claimed Poe or poe2 were good products in fact nobody brought them up at all
there's tons of products right now that are not finished yet they are sold for even more bucks than retail finished games
like EFT
poe2 is a good product?
I claimed anyone still expecting this game to get finished needs testing and you started bitching and griping about poe.
you claimed it'll never be finished, because of state it is in now, so i refered to PoE as of an example of crap fucking game still ending up being one of the most played hns out there
For the first time in a long time, I can finally be glad that I’m not in the majority xD
aoc gun be lit can you all breathe?
we gun rip pve in December for a couple weeks and then we going to have the #1 pvp mmo on market and all new world pvp will come over
except for muskets, and they killed new world
so we golden
The devs killed new world.
correct, after the player base dried up when muskets were never balanced. new world great game btw I loved it. but, it's time for a new #1
was jamming aoc at level 9 with a party of 8 on highwayman last night. quite entertaining
Dei does that.
Honestly wasn't even dei, western devs have just become "Diablo like"
Sad but true
when is PTR back up?
The 2nd - 10th. Will be after the event on the first on Prod. They have not given a time.
hey guys, im curious about how names will work with the steam release. Say you get the game on release and you pick a name, is that name yours from now on forever or do you lose it when a wipe comes?
you lose your names with the wipe since your characters will get deleted.
thats oof, but thanks
that's how it works in any MMORPG in existence AFAIK
AoC will also have name reservations though, but that's another system and will likely only be utilized for the actual launch of the game
Are there flightpaths or any travel between cities in this game? Or is purely walking and riding a mount to travel?
right now they are not in, but flight paths and "land" flight paths are planned between certain settlements.
(basically it's a planned feature but it's not fully mapped out yet as for how it'll work)
hey there guys! how can I post on #1418327801437884616 ?
you can click Create Post on the top right.
if you can't then you probably need to connect your discord and AoC accounts, that gives you access to the actual game channels that 95% of the people talk in, including that.
#read-me-first last step
I have my acc linked to discord and have reacted to the read me channel as you can see on my profile and still nothing 😛
do you have A2 access?
yep
how much will the game be on the 11th?
42.99 usd with regional pricing
what gonna be the lvl cap?
25 right now (Steam EA), 50 on full launch
When does the Rapture happen?
Dec 1 is when the Rapture will occur.
The world will be made fresh for Dec 11.
so i can vpn to a third world country and get it cheap? noited
isnt 42 cheap already..
and you can risk your steam account getting banned in the process if you turn off that VPN
Regional pricing is a bad move, nobody gets banned for that and a lot of ppl got their 3rd world alts
yeah.. on launch they said that you'll be only allowed to play in the region that you buy the game for
but i'm not sure how that's possible with steam's regional pricing..
I don’t believe they said you’d need to play in the region you bought the game for. Think it was just harmonized price server(s) vs not.
The question still stands though… I’m unsure if they can lock a player who bought with harmonized pricing out of playing on certain servers.
maybe they will sell the subs on their website only which will allow them.
first month could still be harmonized. Which would be kinda weird for them to sort out.
yeah...
(Due to it coming free with the account purchase)
dont hate the player hate the game
will be able to purchase on steam before 11 dec?
No
For the steam EA, will there be a place on here for constructive feedback or will the forum be the way to go?
yes we have feedback channels here, but forums also work
Do we have any clear knowledge about which race gives which augments?
Race does not restrict/augment your characters powers at all
Gotcha, haven’t seen anything posted about that recently and they are not currently in game.
“Backgrounds” are in game, but not tied to any bonuses
definitely some old info, steven has said on stream multiple times in the past years about racials being pure flavor and not adding to power
Ok cool just wanted to make sure, I am trying to plan my character creation so it doesn't take forever when it drops on steam for Alpha 3. I haven't really been keeping up. Good thing I don't have to make a vek, the faces look terrible to me
whats the point of regional pricing. if someone can afford a gaming pc and internet connectioon they can afford a 30buck game
Currency is not valued the same everywhere. It is more difficult on average for players in certain areas
Are we allowed to upload videos from the Alpha II?
yep, only PTR has visual NDA, but you can still talk about it. Normal realms have no NDA so you can stream, do videos, whatever
Thank you!
do we know anything about when it will start on that day? I would try to shuffle my day around so i can be at the start of the event
I haven’t seen times posted yet, sorry.
ah no worries, thanks, if anyone has any info pls throw a reply at me here 😄
will all archetypes be playable on steam ea launch?
All base archetypes, yes, no secondary classes (yet, hopefully in one of the next milestones)
I play with 3800x and 5500xt and i dont know why graphics are horrible and slow. Daoc is x100 more beautif.
anyone playing from SEA? roughly what ping are you having while playing?
Everyone that plays this game from SA and Asia say the ping is not an issue at all. Some new tech with the game makes it really playable
https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1442825146707480606 there is a big SEA guild if you wanna talk to them
Hey
Whats the difference between a Tank - Fighter and a Fighter - Tank ?
your primary archetype defines your initial abilities, your secondary archetype alters those abilities.
So a tank/fighter will have tank abilities that can be altered to have more DPS/mobility/CC because of the fighter secondary
A fighter/tank will have fighter abilities that can be altered to have more survivability/threat/zoning
Tnx a lot !
one fights tanks and the other is a tank that fights. hope that clears it up
Yup that really helped ty
Hey, if we buy the early acess key right now. does that mean we can play the game upto the release on steam?
Just wondering if any of that is under closed nda, or if this version will be closed down early, before steam release?
yes, if you buy early access you have access all the way to release, and you get 1 month free on release. There is only visual NDA on PTR servers, on regular servers there is no NDA
Okay awesome thank you! and if we buy now, would we also get a steam key on release?
if you buy now you will still get to play all the way to release yeah
awesome thanks for the quick reply 🙂
Y'all think the game will be on GeForcenow?? IDk if my PC can handle AoC right now
nope, it's not in the plans for Steam EA launch at least
no?
Have we decided the winners for the 1v1 tourney video submissions
Guys, which is the best graphics card for Ashes of Creation:
RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB or RX 9060 XT 16 GB?
nvidia support is usually priority for them
Thank you very much, @slow blade. 🙂
for the entire industry pretty much 
Will there be an opportunity to pre download on steam before early access release?
TBD, not known yet
ok so it took me like 7 hours of patching and win update and resolving the game not launching and finally made it , so on gtx 1070 with 32gb ram and amd ryzen 9 3900X on low or medium outside the node I get 45-60 fps, unfortunately the city I went to was empty so the fps decreased just a bit , if there was a lot of people probably would get 10fps
Ty. You got Ryzen 9 and 32gb though that's good. I don't know if there will be more optimization on the launch server but I don't expect anything better than this.
thats my old pc, bought new gpu amd rx9070xt and few days later ordered everything new to keep up. not worth playing on such low end pc
Good for you lol. I was interested cause I have similar specs. Guess I won't be able to play then
Hi Guys, can't wait to try the game. Just a quick question, is the game enjoyable? despite the "long dev timing" and "i have to farm to exp OH MY GOD" useless comments i read around? how is the play style? smooth? content wise, can you enjoy farming/crafting/housing or is kinda stressful/buggy?
I don't have experience ingame yet, but there are some people streaming it on twitch right now if you're interested in seeing it live
Yeah but everyone is saying that you need way more than that to run it smoothly. THat's why I'm asking aorund
yeah core combat is one of the best in the genre. content wise gathering is good, we don't have housing yet. Crafting can be good but its complex and more group focused, you can require spreadsheets. Depends on what you enjoy. If you enjoy sandbox mmos, Its a pretty good one
Smart plan, just wanted to add to your info 😉
Idk if you've played Albion online but I've enjoyed the gathering and crafting system of AO and transportation of goods from one city to another. Is AoC similar ?
the risk and reward aspect of transportation is not tuned in as well as Albion yet, but everything else is on par or better IMO. Also the kinds of items you transport is different too..
Well, I didnt play albion enough. what I can tell you that we have caravan/crate systems that focus on transportation of good/commodities, but yeah it didnt reach optimal balance yet. Phase 2 the caravan system generated a LOT of open world pvp and it was one of the best content generators in the game
also gathering is great (except hunting which is placeholder)
Idk I made a lot of silver transporting goods for profit . Or buy cheap mats in certain cities and then moving them all to another city to mass craft and sell for profit in another city sounds tedious but it's a good way to enjoy the open world for me. If AoC has this then AoC is for me
yeah thats a thing. I've known a crazy guy that reached gold cap just playing the economy. Caravans and crate transportation is slow paced, the world is big and they aren't super quick.
Ya I know hahah but it's very immersive and I enjoy it especially if I'm also multi tasking + pvp. AoC sounds great then
i can't wait to play. I've been following AoC for a long time now and I'm so happy to hear it's launching on Steam Dec 11 - well, not officially, but enough to play
check this out, its very outdated but it gives a good idea of the pacing (and an old bug lol) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlw_kkTUwFM
Why exactly Caravan System generate Open World PvP during Phase 2, but not afterwards? What changed?
it's all under development. introduction of crates made people run less caravans. now caravans gets abilities and ways to defend themselves. we'll see what happens in the end
they introduced the crate system which is a system for more casual/solo players to deliver commodities in smaller risk and smaller reward but the balance wasn't good so it overtook caravans. On top of that nodes had issues with progression which kinda nerfed the entire system because not enough nodes developed. Development things
basically a lot changed and the iteration wasn't well balanced
is there a projected date for beta and release?
Thank you for your answers guys. I hope they fix that, because in ArcheAge I loved both the caravans and the crates, and both always led to PvP, which was great.
they tweak stuff all the time, don't worry 🙂
they are aiming for beta late next year, so probably release early/mid 2027
aha, terrific 🙂 🙂 🙂
Im not part of the game yet (awaiting steam) is there anywhere to see the different types of summons you get for thearchetypes? Types summoner archtypes? All I can find online is the 3 spirits
Or are secondary classes not even out yet?
not out
Ahh okay okay, we'll that makes things a bit simpler for me come December haha
So right now we just have standard mmorpg classes
yeah the 8 primary archetypes. They will also have big reworks with the addition of skill ranks early next year
Skill ranks?
Can you elaborate what those are
basically every skill will have 2/4 ranks and you can choose to put points to rank up an ability and that will make it stronger/give extra functionality
anyone know why im not able to load past shaders?
Is there any exclusive benifit to getting into ashes before it hits steam?
Like the steam package is much cheaper and seems like you get everything thsts offered in the now available alpha two third wave bundle
put ashes and eac on ativirus exception (windows defender too)
only if you want to test the game earlier to have a better start, or if you want the alpha cloak. Other than that you should wait for steam
i have the launcher on exempt, cant find anything else on my pc to add to the list, and easy anti cheat is exempt and still having the same issue, played during previous alpha and never had this issue before
it even got to 100%, mouse icon came up and just went black
hm try going to C://Users/(personal)/Appdata/Local folder and delete the AOC folder.
Hola bro buen día una pregunta sabes cómo se configuran los controles de la consola legión go para este juego solo funciona la palanca de arriba y abajo pero no a los lados extraño
is there anywhere i can read what will be included in early access and what wont be?
Well everything is wiping with steam launch too right?
Yes. He is referring to testing/practicing/learning on the ptr.
Pretty decent write up I saw recently.
Idk if I would have said 100% coming because I don't think anything is 100% until it is in the game, but those are the major ptr changes.
also are there additional abilities exclusive to specific secondary archetypes? like skills exclusive to soulweavers and not accessible to any other combination of cleric or bard? or does the customization not reach that far
There are no subclasses/secondary archetypes currently. We only have the base 8 classes.
oh really, my fault i havent been caught up w this game in a couple years
have they released a roadmap or talked about plans regarding that? just curious if i should expect just the abilities from both classes or more after the fact
today is event?
how addicting is this game on a scale 1-10? Looking for more casual game play. 1-2hrs a night. does this game feel rewarding when playing short periods of time?
They've explained their vision/outlook a few times with examples. If it remains the same and I am correct, it will be more of an augment onto original skills of the base class. Like fighter/mage the fighter's leap slam turning into an elemental aoe teleport instead. There have been a few examples of combinations improving abilities into others, but those seem like one skill per subclass. They used an example of the cleric/cleric's rez to turn into a mass rez.
oo sick
no specific plans but its looking like augments will start coming early next year
tomorrow
Fairly addicting. It's really nice if you enjoy exploration and older mmo's. That sense of adventure.
I do not think it will feel that rewarding only playing 1-2 hrs a day, but I wouldn't le t that stop you from checking it out.
1~2 hours might not be enjoyable. The game is slower pace, you have to walk places, things take time
yea, I didnt want to answer that because depending on where they are it could be today. shrug.
https://discord.com/events/256164085366915072/1441188812163383356
https://discord.com/events/256164085366915072/1441189029998624889
These should have dynamic timezones for you to tell you what time they will be wherever you may be.
also will tulnar be playable?
No. Tulnar were a KS stretch goal and are not required for "live launch" or early access. Intrepid has a bunch of things going on that have higher priority.
renkai will be added this patch. So the next races on the line are the tulnar
oh so eu is at 9 pm
I have no idea what time zone you are in and which server you're looking for, but these events will show you in your time zone what time they are for.
Do we need to be max level to attend?
no, they'll have boosts
Hey @shadow bluff Yein this side from Qube! who shall i contact for marketing/partnership purposes?
I tried to find a clear answer but couldnt, is the wipe happening tomorrow or on the 11th? ive seen claims for both and im not sure which is correct
the server wipes tomorrow, fresh start starts dec 11th. We will stay on PTR in between this period
ahhh i see! thank you very much!
For content creator program?
For User Accquisition!
Not 100% but support ticket will get you to the team you need
They will direct you appropriately
what if it WAS for content creator program? I responded to my email but have heard nothing back about it, and because tomorrow is the cutoff it has me feeling ... concerned.
What is the difference between a server wipe and a fresh start? My un educated brain sees them both as progression being reset to 0.
they usually happen at the same time, but basically wipe is the end and fresh start is the start 
So because they are different and not happening at the same time...does that mean the servers will be un avaliable? Since there is a gap between the end and the start?
yep, servers will go down tomorrow with the wipe and will only go back up on the dec 11th with the fresh start. In between we get PTR
Ah! That makes sense. Sorry. English isn't my first language. Thank you for the clarification. 🫶
@shadow bluff tagging you here so this doesn't get lost:
what if it WAS for content creator program? I responded to my email but have heard nothing back about it, and because tomorrow is the cutoff it has me feeling ... concerned.
Question Does Ashes work on linux mint or linux it self?
maybe steam once it come to it?
yes game runs on linux if you have the latest version of proton-GE
okay thanks you WOOOT
Do we know when we will get the boosts for the events is it gonna be early or at the start of the event
list was believable until he said dynamic gridding
Can players gather and craft everything or limited to a few professions?
Your limited in the number of professions you can have. You get all the novice professions, 5 of those can go to apprentice at lvl 10, 4 of those can go to journeyman at lvl 20
Does cooking and fishing count as a profession? If you can even do it in the game. And is it worth it?
They are 2 separate professions. Yes, you can do both.
Are they worth it? I know WoW and ESO they give buffs, but to clear end game contant high mythic or raids. You can do it without the food buffs it is just more difficult. If mastering fish and food isn't a 100% need i may just go ad a smith
Cooking especially is extremely important also hard
Would it be better to be a fisherman or a butcher paired with cooking. I will be getting the game on the 11th. Every game I play i have been a cook, fisher and a blacksmith. That being said this game is going to make me be a cook. Which I am excited to do.
I wouldnt suggest you to go with cooking with blacksmith in aoc case weapon or armor smithing because you will need a lot of processing aswell for cooking like farming animal husbandry etc
I will do cooking. Is it better to do fishing with it or butchering
Wdym by butchering is it hunting
Yeah, I just read it as hunting/butcher
If you wanna be self sufficient youll need hunting farming animal husbandry and cooking
Okay, thank you.
yes, you'll be forced to move to Steam according to the latest news.
the "how" will be announced this week.
(for free of course)
yeah, agreed.
seems like they want the largest CCU on steam possibe
here is how to make a sandwich in AoC
just so you have a sense of how difficult some of the foods are 
another question if you dont mind cuz ive been out of the loop a while. Are you still limited to mastering a certain amount of crafting skills?
Has Summoner been added?
yes
it's on PTR, but hasn't been added on live yet.
It's very likely that it'll be in by the 11th
wasnt there the option to not have to go on steam though?
things are changing daily, Steven's last comment suggests that everyone will be forced to play from Steam
When showing that you should also say that the 2 grandmaster count toward the 3 master etc
sure.. there is a better pic
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so true self sufficiency is never possible

yeah, that's one of the core pillar of the game. relying on the community and not being able to do everything alone 
great one of the main pulls for me when i spent hundreds of dollars years ago lol
we'll know the details this week
Is the game going to start fresh and/or refresh again during/after the alpha?
there are 2 confirmed future wipes:
- 1 today, then the servers will go down for 10 days and we're starting fresh on the 11th for Steam EA
- 1 right before launch, so we can start fresh on launch (likely years away)
there may be other wipes between the two, but they are trying not to unless it's absolutely necessary
understandable, i just wanted to make sure I had the right info for my friends. thank you
wait am i installing rn for 0 reason then
there will be a big server closing event today.
(no idea what exactly, think they haven't announced)
so if you want to participate then that might be a reason to
but keep in mind that the live server is like 3 months behing PTR patch-wise, so it'll be far from the Steam EA release version of the game
eh i was just gonna look at some of the starter quests and classes cuz ive been out of the loop for so long
same launcher but im assuming ill have to redownload?
ok cool do u know what time ptr is live?
i know very early on there was mention of ship-making is that still a thing?
It is yes
is it tied to a profession? im struggling to find if it is online
Rowboat and Corsair are being added as well as the Carvel is currently in. The components are crafted components from professions there is no skill/profession to drive the boats currently
So we need to download from steam and then its gonna have the launcher for us to log in right
Im confused
I see thank you
Tis the holiday season and others are in the same boat. Give them a lil while. Should hear something soon.
[Sorry for late reply]
Hi, i guess i can stream the PTR if i only show my face right? I mean i show only my face while i'm playing and talking about what i'm doing
As long as you don’t show the game
PTR is under visual NDA, as long as you dont breach that, then you are fine.
Audio is not visual, so yes that is outside the realm of the NDA.
Perfect, thank you!
Would you prefer to live the rest of your life eating only pizza margherita or a simple cheeseburger ( bread, meat, cheese, salad )
Simple cheeseburger. Pizza margherita lacks even more essential things to sustain life, so you would die of scurvy and other various ailments quicker than simple cheeseburger. If you are going to suffer, draw it out. Become legend.
Hey y’all. When is the PTR coming back online? Is it today? I know they’re doing the final fair well thing to the main servers as a PTR coming up soon?
#questions message Will be after this. Or the next day. They have not announced the end time and the next ptr start time beyond "the 2nd"
The thing thats happening on steam. How much do u need to pay to get access to it?
42.49 usd till Xmas once available. 49.99 after that.
Did they say when the payment becomes available? day of release?
I dont see that option anywhere?
Nope, no updates yet. I would expect a livestream update, and some community FAQ to come out once they back from Turkey comas.
Because that is not yet available on Steam. Stay tuned.
will we can log through intrepid launcher or we must link the acc to steam for 11th ?
Is there any optimization on steam release ? Cos alpha 2 is 45fsp for me
so if i am going to launch through intrepid launcher, i will not be able?
from what I have read, isn't it going to be "install and update through launcher, play through steam" ?? so "play" through launcher will just launch the steam process?
I'm very confused by this. In the FAQ about the Steam launcher, when questioned about it playing only through Steam, it says: "No. You are not required to move to Steam at all. Existing Intrepid Account users can continue playtesting exactly as they always have. Nothing about your current access changes." And after that: "If you want to use Steam, you may add Ashes of Creation as a non-Steam title so you can launch it from your library, but to actually play through Steam, a Steam purchase is required."
So if I want to play on Steam without adding it as a non-Steam game, do I need to buy it again?
Oh, I see. Thank you for letting me know.
will I have to redownload the whole game to play it on steam?
or how is it going to work? since I would rather not to be honest
We don't know.
what about anyone from intrepid? do they know? 
No. They're working through it. Info is constantly changing as they learn and do different things.
They are not in office. It is a holiday weekend in the States. While there has been some still working on stuff over the weekend, those that are there to provide answers to your burning questions are off till Monday. You might get more info then, you might later in the week once they are done with their wipe event.
The joys of open development. Sometimes we get pieces of information (and it’s incomplete, or things change).
alpha event is today?
Holidays days before of release damn
In like 9 hours for shol
PTR (actual current build) and Prod (lotharia and shol rn) are very different.
Having played both during the last few weeks, i do have no issues with smooth 140+ fps gameplay on PTR, but on empty Lotharia i can barely get 20 fps doesnt matter where i went.
Performance works best for me on ptr with latest nvidia driver.
I had hopes theyll update the Prod servers before their „event“ cause i thought itll be a harbinger teaser, but apparently they just gonna spawn some bosses so there might not be a game update today. For true current performance, wait until PTR is back up.
This shiny button at the top of your Discord has all the info you need.
That is unknown 😉
So I played 2 days ago on alpha 2 server EU . Is it different from PTR and what is lotharia ?
ofc
Lotharia is the name of the EU server. It is different than PTR.
Oh , so there is a hope for better fps
PTR: PTR
PROD: Lotharia (EU) + Shol (US)
Yes, they have been working on stability and other optimization issues on PTR. The Prod client (Shol and Lotharia) are weeks old at version .16, have not been updated and wont be updated before they are wiped. Then we will have a week or so of more PTR, then new Prod servers on Steam release, at least two, probably more depending on demand and their metrics.
MMO with wipes it’s hard
To be expected in an alpha, doesnt matter the genre
They will wipe before "live launch" in any event. You keep nothing from testing progressionwise other than memories and information gained from playing how things work and any possible cosmetic rewards that transfer over to live. Get in the right mindset for testing.
I wouldn't advertise that too widely. You friend broke TOS and could lose his account. And this is not a game. It is a testing client. If you are expecting to play a game then you are not going to be happy anytime soon. So factor that into your purchase decision, cause once you have played for two hours or more, you in, Steam refund policy is in effect now from any purchase after Nov 14th.
🤣 oops
Yeah you right
I will 100% buy and try it . 40-50 $ not 100
Thx for info mate
tomorrow
Did they say anything about new poi/dgs for the anvils or any other regions on the 11th? Or will the riverlands continue being the best/only spot to lvl up?
What is the focus of the end game in ashses is it a pvp based gmae or is there going to be raids/ dungeons etc?
there won't be repeatable instanced raids/dungeons, thats not ashes endgame. Focus is on open world, pvx content. Wars, sieges, dynamic events, story arcs, professions / economy, thats will be the endgame
thank you
Ashes run in steamOS?
Hello, what time is the event where everyone will be level 25? (EU)
check events tab should convert to your time zone
7 pm gmt. Remembr that you have to buy a token to level up and another token to get max gear. There will be vendors for those (free of charge), but we dont know the exact loaction of those yet. That will be info from Alpha-two-news as we get closer in time
Thank you for your time. I will stay tuned.
There is an event here
https://discord.com/events/256164085366915072/1441188812163383356
Is this event mainly for lvl 20-25 characters? Or do you think a lvl 9 starter geared Cleric can sneak into the NA event tonight?
they will have level boosts and I'm assuming gear vendors
Thank you 🙏🏻
When will Ashes be available for purchase on Steam? I'd love to be able to buy it so I can already see this beauty in my library.
we don’t have a date for purchase yet. The Steam page will update it. They will probably post it here as well.
https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/270797463907074048
anxiety is high
will there be another wipe by dec 11?
Yes all servers will wipe prior to Dec 11
There is no point to try and level a toon and have it stay, that is correct.
Today is the last day for the Alpha 2 production servers. There are some events happening on them. Then, they will be offline>
PTR server will be up until Dec 11 (Starting tomorrow)
You can log into PTR and check things out basically. Or, join one of the events on the live servers.
https://discord.com/events/256164085366915072/1441188812163383356
https://discord.com/events/256164085366915072/1441189029998624889
wipe today?
yes after the events are completed. Not sure the exact specific time.
PTR will be the only server avail starting tomorrow until Dec 11
steam launch coming with big patch?
Anybody ever have the problem where the launcher is not even launching?
Turned off firewall
Tried running in admin mode
Tried repairing, uninstalling and reinstalling
It doesn't even launch for a split second. Just acts like a dead app. It's not running in the background.
Yes. What is already in the PTR: Harbinger dynamic event, sport fishing, the new component based vehicle system, major FTUE revamp (new questline, destiny system), 1 new ship type (and 1 row boat) with new ship components, 4 caravan abilities, summoner, renkai, 4 new world bosses, changes to stats, crafting and mob loot drops, duel system, no more static rarity, improved character models, dynamic gridding
did you perform a clean uninstall as they suggest on their support page?
then idk, maybe add the launcher to antivirus exceptions (windows defender too)
a gm just announced no 25 boost today?
This is the way 🍪🤘👌
Added it to exclusions, and even paused antivirus protection to prevent it from reacting to everything.
Still the mouse spins a circle for a split second when I try to run the launcher, and it just silently fails.
Is it possible to link the account with steam yet? Maybe I'll have better luck with steam version of the launcher.
not yet. send them a support ticket
Looks like I'm not the only one:
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/68855/the-launcher-does-not-start#latest
Well that aged badly
yeah this is a screw up by the community team
Monumental L
what happen?
Promised a fun event with max level and mounts
Instead its a hide and seek with no max level and no information
hide & seek with reward for 2 hrs left? 😄
Yep
Is this for people with Alpha?
yeah
The Summoner is releasing on December 11 ?
the archetype summoner yes
Is there an event page ? I can’t see one. I’m trying to read in the event today
Ty
so there weren't actually any promises about an event with mounts and stuff right? 😄 it's the same thing as phase 2
Over promise, under deliver................
what time does servers go offline?
Anyone knows If Ashes runs in steamOS?
hello, will the Early Access be persistent through full launch or will it wipe before full launch?
no, it is guaranteed that it will wipe at launch
This is alpha testing still, then beta testing, then launch. There will still be wipes before launch for sure.
I see, even if it doesn explicitly say so I'd say it is very likely they will wipe before launch. Thanks everyone
I'd expect a wipe every 3 months and be pleasantly surprised if I am wrong.
if i had the ability top get one of the old pre order packs are they worth it?
like intrepid or voyager
hi I have a question that I haven't seen answered or addressed. if this is not the best place for this type of question let me know.
I am wondering if the progression scales down, or there are marginal returns to "binge" leveling. Does a working parent that can only play in the evenings stand a chance to gear up enough to be competitive in pvp?
an example of mmo features that benefit those that can't play all day include: daily login gifts, caps on bosses/items per week, or even a leveling boost system for the first few hours of play.
We can't tell you what is "worth it" to you. We can have differing viewpoints, lifestyles, and priorities.
These kind of things are the things that ruin MMOs for 99.9% of players, so no.
The whole point of AoC is that it doesn't have those things
You have to earn everything
That being said, you can be a working adult with a family and still be competitive in pvp. Your progression to that end point will be slower, and you may not reach the peak that a few handfuls of people do currently (enchanted i29 weapons. i26 weapons are attainable.). You definitely can still be competitive, though.
are any of the old pre order pack items in the game yet?
besides embers and game time of course
These are the skins currently in https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/44215138874643-Alpha-Two-Cosmetic-Skin-Testing
thanks for that link
how are alot of those cosmetics gotten or its not possible now?
They're all exclusive to the pack in which they were offered over the past 8ish years. No way to obtain them now.
gotcha gotcha
I have a question I read this
Starting December 11, 2025, the Early Access Bundle will be available for $49.99 USD on both Steam and the Ashes of Creation Shop. This includes access to Alpha Two, Beta One, Beta Two, one month of game time, access to the (NDA) PTR, and a non-exclusive cosmetic cloak.
Will we have to pay monthly subscription for early access?
Nope. The sub cost will be in place when the game fully launchs. There is no sub cost for EA, or any other testing.
I'm assuming there will be no wipe when the game transitions from early access to full release right?
There will be. We're in alpha testing. I'd expect wipes.
Ok thanks.
Personally, I expect a wipe every 3 months. It can go longer than that, ofc, but I would rather stay realistic with my outlook and be pleasantly surprised if it goes longer.
Did not mean free stuff. Just systems to disincentivize 16hr / day players from being that much more powerful than 2hr / day players.
16 hr / day players should be more powerful than 2 hr / day players
Currently it’s too much 😂😂
By around 8x
its really easy to build a community when the requirements for being 90% top tier are 2 hours per day
i can sign people up for that
Sorry but if you're looking for a cushy P2W dad game, AoC is not the place to look
they have always mentioned progression throttles, but we haven't seen them in action yet. We will have to wait and see but even then, 2 hours a day is quite rought for a game like ashes which is slow paced, you have to walk places, no fast travel, things take time
haha i hope i meet you in game sometime 🙂
p2w lol
good luck out there
The whole concept of AoC is that its not one of those games and doesn't hand hold you at all
I have a friend who backed in EU and hes currently in transit to us moving. Will he be able to play on the us servers?
Why don't u sell skins for to get more cash? I pay 5-10$ for skin, i know it'll deleted but it's okay. You need money that's why you focused Steam.
They can make temporary skin for per phase.
is this the same friend who had an 'opportunity' to 'get' a new pack? 
they will sell skins after steam EA launch. Skins that will be permanent most likely. No need to make them temporary
No thats me 😂 my friend is in the army, currently on a plane. Hes the one trying to get me in
Been nagging me for months to get into this game and he offered me one of his packs but im prolly waiting for steam
Account sharing is against ToS, so if/when caught you'd be banned.
I mean its not like hes ever played on the account ao its not really sharing. Its tied to a gaming email and thats it lol the owner of the email would be the owner of the account
But we wont drive down that path cause im waiting for steam anyways
I noticed they took down the "you will have to buy a seperate copy on steam" piece on the moving to steam announcement. But theres no details on getting a steam copy. Is there any new updates on that besides whats on the coming to steam announcement?
We'll all be forced to link our accounts and play through steam.
So we dont have to re-purchase though?
here's hoping
Correct. The exact details and how to's have not be released yet and will likely be a large topic on the Dec 5th livestream.
nope
Awesome thanks!
what are the requirements for these titles?
- cultist of eternal fire
- knight of the white flame
what time will ptr go online
having logged and played the game before dec 11th on prod servers
lol you beat me!
We dont know yet, but often it is around mid day PST 1PM ish.
is there a shop to buy mounts and skins
not yet.
will there be class changes before dec 11
like balancing? What do you mean?
yes
not likely before dec 11. more likely the next milestone in Jan/Feb.
hmm
Hey 🙂 In how many hours patching for PTR will start?
Was hoping to patch it overnight xd It freezes my whole PC and cannot work on it during patching 😄
Anyway, thanks... 🙂
Doubt. I hope there's 3+ ptr patches before the 11th. There's a lot of shit to iron out.
Well, I doubt it. I have ESO on Steam and all it does is opening traditional ESO launcher 😄 I suspect it might be the same here
Who can I contact if my login to the website no longer works and when using forgot password it does not reckognise my email I registered with. I did back the game back on kickstarter and did take part in the old alpa registrations and did migrate my account to the ashesofcreation website back then but haven't logged into the site since then.
!cs
Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
do we know max concurrent players per realm for the new steam EA start?
we don't. I think its around 10-15K tho
A fellow ESO player, welcome!! 🫡
Is the event finally up for US server?
Is anyone live streaming in Dev team? Us shovel?
Hello,
How much is it going to be for Brazilians players on Steam?
When is it going to be open to buy also, and do we need to still pay monthly for it?
However much Steam harmonizes the price to from 42.49 USD to your region usually. They have not said when it will be available for purchase, watch the livestream on the 6th if they haven't said before that. And it is a one time fee for all testing until "live launch" and you get a month of sub after that. Sub time is not used during testing.
$42.99 is Ashes sale price. Steam will likely harmonize/discount that for Brazil, but I’m not sure how much. too slow. Unknown got you covered, and more accurately. 🙂
Thanks for Clarify
its usually anywhere from 110 to 180 BRL
So what do we need to do to be able to launch the game via the steam client if we already have a supporter pack?
Not so bad, how about the sub?
no sub for early access, only at actual release
I know, just wondering how much is going to be, probably something similar to WoW.
The last confirmed sub amount is $14.99 on release. Though with Steam being involved now and their 30% cut, I imagine that may shift in the future as Steven's years planned math has now shifted.
no clue
Since they have reduced price for South America players
They have not reduced the price beyond normal Steam harmonization.
There will be further guidance given later on the exact process. Stay tuned.
my brother in christ what is that profile picture?
Look up Little Britain
is that AI?
I was talking about WoW, blizzard reduced the expansion and monthly sub prices to SA region
This is what Intrepid has said in the past about their plans for "harmonized servers." But then again, Intrepid has said many things that have changed. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Payment_model
Got it, really thanks buddy
when are steam codes going out?
my bday is coming and I'll ask for my wife to give this gift xD
We will probably find out more info during livestream on Friday
awesome, thanks!
the 1th? Maybe the 5th or shortly there after?
Most questions will be answered on the 5th I think.
steam doesnt take a cu t on monthly subs only game purchased
His ARPPU also factors in cosmetic sales, which Steam does take a cut of. So if it doesn't change, great. But his expected returns are reduced. And $14.99 is a relic of a decade past. Expect the unknown
$42.49 till Xmas. 49.99 after that.
sweet and still for the dec 11th?
Yep, unless they change it, but they have been pretty adamant that date is locked in.
great iv been waiting for this game for awhile ik its alpha but thats fine
will we eventually get fist weapons/gauntlet type of weapon for martial art punching and all
I'm really lost, where can I see all the new things the 0.18 Harbinger patch will bring?
I didn't find nothing in the forums nor main web page
What is already in the PTR: Harbinger dynamic event, sport fishing, the new component based vehicle system, major FTUE revamp (new questline, destiny system), 1 new ship type (and 1 row boat) with new ship components, 4 caravan abilities, summoner, renkai, 4 new world bosses, changes to stats, crafting and mob loot drops, duel system, no more static rarity, improved character models, dynamic gridding
So the Steam early access will be 49.99?
42.99 Dec 11th to 24th I believe then 49.99, yes.
Ok great, awesome, thanks. But where are you getting all this information?
I played it
Isn't it published in any part of the web?
not the full list of things coming
Ok, ty.
hello, I am participating in a test tomorrow night. It says I believe to be on PTR. When I solect PTR in the launcher it says unavailable.
- Do I need to do a separate install for PTR testing?
- will the PTR be available tomorrow for this test?
Thanks!
sorry, what's PTR?
yes and yes, they need to open the ptr so you can download
Private test realm, where we get focused tests with daily wipes, level boosts, free gear etc
thank You!
Beautiful. Thank you 🙏
hows the solo experience? i fully understand a solo is not able to take on raids bosses or dungenons or sieges ect . but what about for msq
or are you going to need to do your missions and quests with a group non stop
cant wait until next week to get it 😄
Yes
ty
there is no msq. there are some quests, but no large overarching storyline that levels you. most leveling is done with gathering/processing/mob grinding.
so there's no story? interesting! but im good with that
There's lore, but there isnt that much built in quests for it yet.
hey, downloading AoC to my M.2, with good internet, and it so far has taken 7.5 hours, is it supposed to take this long?
jesus
wifi, but running at 800mbps
always faster on ethernet
it took me like 1-1.5 hours with it fluctuating between 10-25mb
my delta merge with 100% way before the download.. i remember cuz it was last night
plug in. no download outside of a dial up modem should take that long 🙁
if you are trying to update the live servers:
- servers are already almost closing so I don't think its worthwhile
- If this is the merge that is taking forever and not your download speed, you should do a clean install instead of updating, it goes faster
On the upside none of this will be a problem on dec 11th as we move to steam 
so PTR won't be up until tomorrow the 2nd correct and Alpha servers are shutting down pretty soon? so no ashes until tomorrow?
So on dec 12 do we just login via the launcher as usual?
yeah
steam and itll be dec 11th
When will the summoner be available for play for people that are not in the private test? I'm waiting to get back into ashes until then due to the fatigue of hard resetting and grinding.
Any new weapon on December 11 ?
MSQ will not be implemented before full release, Steven probably want to keep the secret of that.
They put the main picture for Rogue with Katar, as you can see, not sure for Fist/Gauntlet tho.
hoping for fist gauntlet so i can play summoner while punching my enemies alongside my summons 😄
Can each gathering / crafting professional produce their own tools, or does one profession, make all the tools?
Weaponsmithing/Carpenter are making most tools (Can change)
Does anyone know what time the servers will be back up tomorrow ?
im hype guys im hype! 😄
Does anyone have approx time PTR coming back online tomorrow?
Sometime between 00:00 and 23:59
I hear conflicting rumors on whether we will be able to use the intrepid launcher after the steam launch, I don't see anything on the alpha two news channel. Does anyone know where interpid posted the information on this?
Oh dear, all the testing to be ready for early access and right at the start we will be doing something that hasn't been live tested. 😱
The communication we've gotten has changed a few times. This is the latest and can change again. Time will tell.
How much will the game be on steam
42.49$ for the first 2 weeks, then 49.99$
price is also regionalized
Did the wipe happen yet ?
not yet, within probably the next 6-12 hrs
🙇♂️
Would it be worth buying the game on the website now and playing before the steam launch?
Will the game close and reopen on the 11th?
I'd strongly reccomend most people wait for steam EA price drop, it'll be 58$ cheaper Dec 11th.
That's a personal choice that no one can make for you. We can have differing outlooks, priorities, and values.
Personally, I would. I really enjoyed using the ptr before the last phase when I was getting into the game as a bit of a sand box to test classes/gear and see what I wanted to play. Really nice being able to test everything at max level with boost vendors when they do ptr tests that warrant them.
Live server is wiping today and not reopening until the 11th. PTR will run until then, but sometimes wipes as often as daily. Private Test Realm won't carry over into steam EA.
Hello im new here, If I buy the steam game, do i need to pay monthly for it? or pay for every expansion? is it monthly? or is it only when the full game releases?
NO monthly payment will be required for the forseeable future. Your unlock preserves your early access testing until 1.0 LAUNCH, which is probably 1-2 years away at least 😉
Thank you for the reply man, I appreciate it. One more question tho, is it like a monthly wipe?
It's a game in alpha. There will be future wipes. Personally, I think we'll get a wipe every three months as a realistic average, and I'll be happy to be wrong if we go longer.
definitely will NOT be a MONTHLY WIPE... the most PROBABLE based on PAST ITERATIONS will most likely be 3-4 month wipes... this is of course VERY varying depending on bugs/exploits found/reproduced, as well as active players, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: WHAT WE AS ACTIVE PLAYERS SAY/WANT!. What you say actually matters here ((if you do so in the corerct place https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1365494991509782558)) If you drunk-spam global-chat like an idiot (me) they will NOT care, obviously.
i see, thank you so much
How do i get perms to post in recruitment channel
you need to have A2 access
The Alpha on Steam (Early Access) will only be available via purchase on the site or on Steam, right? How will this affect those of us with Beta keys? If we buy Steam access to the alpha, will we be able to keep it later for future alphas and betas? I'm super confused about this whole process since I haven't been watching updates and live streams very closely.
if you have a beta key you already have access to steam EA
It'll only be available in those two places, Beta key holders get access on Dec 11th. Steam EA grants access for the rest of testing until launch (which you don't need if you already have beta).
Thanks, guys. I'm guessing there'll be instructions on how to use the beta key/access the EA when it drops on the 11th?
instructions to come this friday on the livestream
Big preesh. Thank you for clarifying.
So games down until the 11th?
#a2-ptr-news message live is down now till 11th im pre sure but theres this ptr stuff
Do you know when does PTR gonna be up by any chance ?
We know it’s today, but the hour is not yet confirmed
oh yeah thanks
Does action combat mode feel the same as GW2 action combat camera ?
Probably the closest analogue yeah
I remember when gw2s action mode was just an overlay made by the community before they added it for real haha
Actually probably a little more involved than gw2s as ashes has an active block, from memory gw2 doesn't have that
Ah ok thanks not bad then it feels alright
Also fyi active blocking had a big buff over dodging in the test server so if that comes to live servers next update it will be quite significant for all classes
is weapon holstering coming?
Its a dangerous world
what time is ptr
what time
no time
dude, Arc gave you the link, there is no announcement for the time when it starts. what can we say more?
why do u have AoC next to ur name, are u a dev
It's a tag, everyone can have it
oh nvm haha
most of the servers have a tag like that, it just shows you are part of a community
Intrepid staff in the server have golden colors to their names, red named moderators are volunteers. It's currently 3:20AM Intrepid time so not a lot of them around atm.
Don't listen to him, Steven hears all sees all knows all maybe even is all
Throw it back
does aoc have (or plan to have) any equal # (1v1, 3v3, 5v5, etc) pvp zones/modes? or is it all pure open world
there will be arenas with leaderboards.
and dueling
You will be equal to others once you work for it 
Wt time open the PTR?
Soon (tm)
we won't know until they announce it likely a few hours before it opens
hi
will u get any special unobtainable cosmetic from alpha two?
If it is unobtainable, does that no mean no one got it? 😉
More serious answer. If you reach level 25 during early access from Dec 11th, you get a mount skin. Intrepid has said that going forward none of their skins offered or sold on the store are "exclusive" and may return at a future point as a promotion or for sale.
Unobtainable: not able to be obtained.
No gonna git if u can't get got.
Maybe only if git gud can got get.
So can I get some confirmation on this, will the Summoner be playable on Dec 11th in the Alpha?
you can't get a confirmation currently. it is planned, but we'll see how it works out. it's currently on PTR
Anyone have an eta on PTR coming online?
how long are the servers still live? before they shut down for the early access
so the servers gonna be online 24/7 after dec 11th?
yes
the PTR server will be up later today, and will be mostly up until Dec 11. Down for patches/updates/maint. Or, whatever they want. It will also wipe depending on what they are testing.
similar to Archeage, we can apply our own guild logo design into the game, like to cloaks, ship's sail, on boxes etc? what is the maximum guild size too?
Not yet. 50 before upgrades.
for Early Access, thy will wipe whole server for multiple times similar to what happened at Pax Dei for AoC too? such as after 2nd wipe at Pax Dei, I had uninstalled the game at the end, where many ppl quit the early access game because of it.
This is still Alpha testing (Phase 2), then there will be Beta, and then, launch. Long time until then. Yes there will still be wipes, since it is in active development. THe goal is not to have to unless necessary in EA. But moving to beta, will be a wipe, and moving to launch, will also be a wipe.
when is the wipe for early access?
Today soon. Prob when they are in the office this morning (its 7AM PST for them rn)
why doesn't it count for both attackers when an enemy got killed for a quest? i mean i works perfectly fine in other mmos
If you are in a group, it does. It encourages group play, and also friction to get the kill if you are not in a group.
but group play i also encouraged without being in group
They servers close today, but the early access servers don’t open until Dec 11th. We’ll be on PTR until them.
We dont know the exact time. Keep an eye on this news channel https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1261399764960936047
To access the PTR and A2 channels. you need to link your Discord acct to your Ashes on, and pick a language here
https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/908174013346508870
Okay I am sure this was anwsered but if i want to by the game again on steam and connect both my accounts will i be able to do that?
Kinda like how SWTOR does their game
no, they will tell you how to transfer it to Steam for free
If you allready have access to alpha 2 you dont need anything else. You are good to go
one ashes account per steam account
they will need to transfer the account, but other than that, sure
thanks guys
so yes? like i just want to be able to have the game with steam and be able to update it through steam but i would login into my intrepid account when i launch the game
you wont be able to use 2 ashes accounts with one steam account, no
im not saying 2 ashes accounts.
you don't need to buy again to have the game on steam, everyone will get to play through steam now
can you send me the link to this info please
Thank you
Did they say anything about a preload or something ?
For the Dec 11 EA nothing yet. Maybe on stream on Friday. Or for PTR….soon. They will post it in the https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1261399764960936047
just bought the game. everything is down. worst timing in history.
You should link your discord acct to your ashes account online so you get the alpha 2 role here and access to the PTR channels.
https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/908174013346508870
PTR server will be up later today.
oh, nice news, thank you
Im sure this question gets asked a lot but is there any update as to when the summoner architype will be released? Dec 11th?
for what concern the nda, im not allowed to disclose publicly the game contect, but, is it allowed to stream in my discord to my girlfriend? she would like to purchase the game too but she wants to see how it looks a bit before..
if not allowed is ok just to know 🙂
Summoner is "planned" for Dec 11th. Might be a glitch or delay but that is unlikely.
PTR is under a visual NDA, so you cannot stream it even to your gf in discord.
ah ok, thanks
If you have PTR access, there are some NDA voice channels. Or, you can record and playback on your PC.
me too x)
link your account #read-me-first
are the servers offline any news when there up?
#alpha-two-news message
Glorious @Alpha Two testers,
Alpha Two realms will be closing at Tuesday, December 2, 2025 12:00 PM (All dates/times in this message should be shown in your local time).
The PTR will be coming up for testing in the next few hours, with a new update. We'll have information about this in PTR channels once this is ready for testing
More information about our testing schedules are in the article here
Okay another noob question, when will be subclass system go live? any announcement on that?
early next year best estimate. We are getting a full 8 archetype reworks soon and then its augments
I’m assuming there will be some balance changes before the 11th right?
yes, a lot has already changed on ptr
Gotcha. Hopefully rogue doesn’t get hit too hard 🙏
Steven alluded to some in a twitch stream, but we dont have ptr patch notes for today yet.
I mean to think they wont have balance changes is insane. Game would be cooked if the current PTR balancing came lol
Duno why they wait this long to figure it out tho. We got like 1 more solid week for changes maybe.
what needs changing which classes
I mean they probly all do. But theres gotta be STAT and some minor class changes coming i would assume.
game close?
link your ashes account to discord account #read-me-first and you can see the #a2-ptr-news #alpha-two-news news channels. TLDR yes its down and PTR will be going up shortly
What is the difficulty in putting the language into Portuguese?
Do developers dislike Brazilians?
there is no other language than english. It will remain that way till betas/launch
?
that is only for community discussion channels
There are alot of languages that people speak. These are the ones that they currently support in Discord.
there is no demand for a portuguese discussion channel in here yet, not enough people. Hopefully with steam EA we can think about adding one? @junior ember 
we are getting a lot of new players dec 11th
Hi a question about the "early access" on steam, usually we saw that the alphas are not like 24/7 uptime, what about steam? we could play "alphas" les say 24/7 for all 2026 until beta/realease? or maybe as an example, march of 2026 we cannot play because xxx reason?
Game will be up 24/7 all the way to release, except for stuff like maintenence, updates, and the occasional short breaks to focus on PTR
Kio dont get paid enough here 😆
those short brakers are just "days" maximum rigth?
they have been...
but thats no guarantee that they -will- be
Its usually a month max. But we still play daily on PTR during that month
seeing as the pet AI is just dogSheet I can see this being why. It is pretty much to worse pet system I have seen in a mmo.
I know that no make sense now that we have AoC on steam that a user buy the game on february...and in march cannot play it because "those brakes" I understad the current life cycle its, its an alpha...but I dont accept buy a game on steam, if I cannot play it like 24/7 (dont matter the current state)
it's the exact same pet system as in wow, just more buggy. how is that "the worst"? the issue is not with the system itself..
well then I recommend not buying it
You cannot play it 24/7 because there will be updates/maint/issues, and who knows what else. Its literally an alpha test. Still needs to go to beta, then even release way off.
If you dont want to deal with that, then yea, I would wait to purchase access.
I assume we are getting steam keys mailed beforehand as A1/A2 purchasers?
there will be info in the Friday stream about how it will work.
its ok have updates/maintenances/issues etc, we can wait for hours/days maximum, but not a month..I know it's just a alpha early access, but still early access like PoE, or another games, you can play 24/7
Well, its not changing so take it or leave it
It is not beta, and it is not early access. Thats just what its called bc Steam doesnt really have a "This game is stil in ALPHA phase"
It wont be offline for a month unless there is some big development issue. That is very unlikely. Yes it happened, a few weeks, bc thats what the developers needed to do, to focus testers on PTR>
any update on when ptr will actually be live? - and a side question for devs if they read here.. why was the public servers not just kept live atleast until PTR was ready or near to being ready (talking max 1 hr down time) ?
There will be updates posted here on PTR server status -=> https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1261399764960936047
Why keep up the A2 servers when they are just wiping? What difference does a few hours make? They are no longer a focus.
reason being for those who maybe purchased recently, like myself - for atleast learning certain aspects of game ect ready to fully test when ptr is live?
The A2 servers are older builds, so much has changed on PTR. They arent even relevent tbh esp the starting 1-9 levelling, zones, and crafting.
They will post it here https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1261399764960936047
so will aoc servers be open 24/7 once the early access starts on steam?
That is the goal but expect delays, downtime, patches, things going badly wrong, updates. They will do what they need to for Development.
there will be maintenanc and updates downtimes, also they might have breaks where they focus on PTR testing instead of live, but for the most part, yes.
i get this alot , anyone had it befor ?
same
they forgot to open the servers, give them a minute
I am getting that error as well
they are working on it
I wonder if it's an Epic thing again
you can download now, restart your launcher
Will the steam release be coming out with any instanced dungeons? And is there anywhere i can read or watch about whats coming out with the steam release?
The general idea from the beginning is that open-world content is 80% and instanced content is 20%
So overall, you won't find much instanced content in this game.
no instanced dungeons. What is already in the PTR (new things on this patch): Harbinger dynamic event, sport fishing, the new component based vehicle system, major FTUE revamp (new questline, destiny system), 1 new ship type (and 1 row boat) with new ship components, 4 caravan abilities, summoner, renkai, 4 new world bosses, changes to stats, crafting and mob loot drops, duel system, no more static rarity, improved character models, dynamic gridding
so this game will be buy to pay, and have monthly sub as well?
and server only 2 atm, na eu? no SEA ?
No monthly sub until launch. When the game launches, you won't have to buy it. The $50 starting Dec 11th is for early access.
Early access will only have EU and NA. Launch will have other regions
Lets hope instance dungeons never happen, it hás been One of the downfalls of the MMOrpg genre
anyone can tell if there is a focus to loot in the starting area?
https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1380346590287630357 - Will you have time to look at this sometime? Waited half a year+ and its preventing my movement in the game 🙁
is the game down , i cannot seem to get on ?
the live servers were wiped and they will be down till the Steam Launch on the 11th.
If you want to play you'll have to pick the PTR server in the launcher


Yes, all Alpha key holders will get Early Access on Steam for free. Details on how this all works will be shared in the Livestream Friday
Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1764961200:F>! The stream will kick off in 1 minute.
Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation
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question
will this game have server wipes
Until full launch, yes
There have been 4 different stretches where everyone started at lvl 1 since Alpha 2 launched on Oct 25th, 2024. Avg duration is 3-4 months. The goal is for no wipes, but certain things require it.
How am I able to type in general chat in discord
connect your discord https://ashesofcreation.com/account/settings
Do we need to uninstall anything with the other servers gone? I'm downloading the PTR now
dont need to but you should, that server aint coming back up
Which general chat?
There's a stream on Dec 5th that will probably answer some questions for you
Alpha 2 general. Or is that bc im not in the current alpha
Just wondering
A2 chat is limited to A2 owners that have linked discord.
how is the payment for the game gonna work? is it going to be subscription based?
It will be sub based once the full game is released, no subscription while in alpha/beta. There is currently no release date.
if i pay at steam launch will get the game for the whole of alpha or will that spill into beta too?
You get the game the entire alpha/beta and 1 month of sub time when the game launches.
is there any benefit to purchasing before 12/11?
Will current backers recieve any kind of steam key to add the game?
There will be a cape cosmetic and 2 titles.
No steam key, but will be able to link the game to steam (details are still pending)
Aww okay makes sense then
Correct. Everyone can view the Alpha Two channels, but only those with Alpha Two access, and who have their Intrepid Account (with a2 access) and their Discord accounts connected can post in that category.
give me access to the ptr channels
I think that’s not the case anymore? Those were if you played the A2 till today, but I might be wrong
Buy key. NOW!
Is the game purchasable through steam before the 11th? Only see a wishlist option.
Nope, the 11th is the Steam date.
how much is it now vs steam price?
$100 vs $49.99($42.99 on xmass sale)
o7 could i get into the ptr channels?
ty
what does "one month of game time" mean is it like a set amount of hours or is it just like i can play the game for the whole month of february and have to buy it again at the end of the month
on that note, do we know how much the subscription is going to be?
When the game finally releases, it will have a monthly subscription. The subscription I believe was last mentioned it will be around 14.99
Ashes of Creation (the MMORPG) is a subscription-only game with no box cost.
The monthly subscription fee is USD $14.99.
There will be no region locking, but certain regions will have "harmonized" subscription prices that better reflect their local economies. Harmonized regions will be segregated from other regions.
No region locking also applies...
oh nice, ty
hello, this is the first time I have entered the PTR for more than a year, how can I upload my character to 25?
you go to avens end, crafting area west of lionhold and they have boost vendors
