questions

[near stump]

Spot testing is invite only for A1 key holders

[lofty verge]

i am but didnt get something

[near stump]

They haven’t invited everyone

It’s in waves

[tulip hatch]

Not all A1 testers are being brought in at once ~ keep an eye on your email for future invites
Keep in mind spot testing is under NDA

[lofty verge]

do i have to activate a code from kickstarter or so? or is it just bad luck? 😉

[mystic widget]

Nevermind i had old launcher i just found newer one

[acoustic river]

how often will we have 5+ days tests on phase 2? once a month? Or every week?

[reef osprey]

every week

@acoustic river

[stable plover]

Your discord profile is already picking up the link to a braver of worlds KS package, so there's no further action needed in regards to KS . (Unless you have multiple KS packs or are trying to upgrade the KS pack or something).

[quick garden]

do we have an in game bug reporting system?

[orchid temple]

Sorry if this has been answered already I looked through the video and didnt see it but was there any mention of news for the content creator program, and whether or not it would be active by the time the first phase of alpha starts?

[dull brook]

I would like to say yes they did mention and it was during phase 2, but I'm not sure.

[thick grove]

i also was wondering about the content creation program. is there any average response time on application into getting a response on being accepted or declined? are they accepting more applications right now, or is it on hold since i'm sure there's been a ton of requests on the form?

[near stump]

They plan to send invites prior to A2. Didn’t receive an update on that today if I’m not mistaken.

To the CC program

The issue is they received way more applications than expected so they had to post for a new position for someone to solely manage that program.

They intend to send a response to everyone whether you’re accepted or not.

[orchid temple]

Is there a time limit on that because I think I submitted an app like a year + ago, and alot changes in a year. I'm not sure if we can edit our responses.

[thick grove]

I'm sure they are absolutely swamped with applications tbh. thanks for the info!

it does say you can edit the form but idk what that entails on if it bumps stuff around if there's a "queue" in their system or anything. but you can edit the form by attempting to submit another one (it only lets you submit one, it says you can edit it and brings you to the one you did before)

[near stump]

I’ll let a community manager reply on their current progress with CC applications. Check back later for a response from an orange name. @junior ember

[rotund aspen]

how do I link my intrepid account / forums to discord? or is that a thing?

[near stump]

https://discord.ashesofcreation.com/

[tight gale]

We are currently in application phase, we have not started the invitiation phase.

We will let folks know when we switch. We are currently working to hire a Content Creator Program Manager, after we onboard them - we will be launching the invites for that program. 😉

[thick grove]

thank you for the response! looking forward to the game so much! hope the onboarding goes swiftly!

[rotund aspen]

awesome thank you!

[copper token]

On phase 2 we will have 5/7 days of testing every week?

[reef osprey]

yes

[near stump]

5+, so some weeks could be 6 or 7. They just want to temper expectations in case there are issues.

[thorn gull]

is there a link to apply ?
I know there was a google forms

[tight gale]

Note sure which you are asking about, but here are the links:

• For content creator program: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500009003862-What-is-the-Intrepid-Studios-Content-Creator-Program
• For career post: https://intrepidstudios.com/careers

[thorn gull]

lmao, sorry
It was about content creation program
thank you

[worthy verge]

any idea do we get full 3 days in phase 1? full 72 hours?

[near stump]

They didn't say sadly. I have my speculations, but that's not what this channel is for. We'll probably get this info sometime in October.

[trail cipher]

do we know where we can purchase the keys or when they release, didnt have time to fully watch the video today 😦

[near stump]

August 21st, 11am PT from their website shop

!shop

[potent thunder]

Pre-Order packs have ended. If you previously purchased a Pre-Order pack, you should still be able to upgrade. To find out more, see the FAQ here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order

To explore upgrades and add-ons for any previously purchased items, login to see the Shop here: https://ashesofcreation.com/shop

[near stump]

That command should be updated soon

[orchid temple]

Thank you for the response!

[near stump]

They also said they will be for sale "while supplies last"

[sand perch]

With the new alpha packs giving access in November, do previous backers get into the alpha at the same time? Or earlier?

[desert ivy]

If you bought an A2 pack before then you get in on October 25th

[sand perch]

A2 access is included in previous Kickstarter packs right?

[near stump]

Some of them

You'd have to look at what you bought

[desert ivy]

Founder/Warrior of Old/Braver of Worlds/Leader of Men/Royalty/Hero Of The People/Avatar of the Phoenix KS packs have A2 access

[austere summit]

@tight gale should we be worried about the keys being sold out fast on the 21th?
Also, will they be avaiable on the "Shop" section of the website?

[near stump]

Yes to the second question

[reef osprey]

@plucky saddle i think you misunderstood something
a guild can't just "raid your house" while you are offline

for your house to be destroyed, your Node needs to lose a siege. This siege will have a notification period of multiple days so citizen can prepare to defend during the server prime time a couple of days later.

Only if you lose that siege (where everybody in that node loses their real estate), your house can be destroyed.
Its not like Rust where people just come by and destroy it while you are sleeping

[tight gale]

I cannot predict if they will get sold out. lol. I think you should be fine though.

Yes, all 3 will be available on the shop as of Wednesday, August 21 at 11AM Pacific.

[desert ivy]

Is it a literal "there are only X keys in stock" or similar to A1 back in 2018 where you aimed for 10k sold and then cut off sales once you approached that mark?

[tawny thicket]

Just curious
If someone buys the first phase key do they have to buy the other 2 keys to participate? Or will the earlier key grant access to later phases

[near stump]

You only need to buy 1 of the 3 phase keys

You gain access to everything in A2 from that point on

[tawny thicket]

Ok thank you I missed the event so i appreciate you

[covert zephyr]

do the alpha 2 keys include beta 1 and beta 2? since they (according to past messages) seem to be at same time as alpha 2

[tight gale]

No. First, Second, and Third Wave are only for Alpha Two access.

[covert zephyr]

rip

missed opportunity for goodwill

[west ledge]

We don't need to buy a key if we bought into the Alpha 2 package correct?

[tight gale]

If you already have Alpha Two, you are good. You don't need to get it again. LOL

[west ledge]

Great, was worried thank you

[lofty verge]

sweetest margaret 🙂 i wanna test please - i got holidays (teacher) and my holidays was boring so far

[covert zephyr]

Will there be any future community events for keys?

[near stump]

They've given keys away in November during their Extra Life fundraiser each year for awhile now. Expect that to continue. They do other events periodically too. Keep an eye on #news or their website news articles.

[opal kiln]

If I want to play all the 3 phases I need to buy 3 separate keys for each one?

[snow ember]

No

[tight gale]

No. Just buy Alpha Two First Wave. You gain access the soonest - and it goes for the whole duration of A2.

[snow ember]

You buy the first key then have access to the other 2

[opal kiln]

Oh ok, So whats the point in 2 other keys then ?

[obtuse talon]

so if you bought a package for A2 within the packs sold in the last few years is it oct 25 or nov 8th for A2 access? - its a bit unclear

[snow ember]

For people down the line to get access to it

[tight gale]

If First Wave sells out, or the time lapses, you have the option to buy into the Second or Third Wave.

[limpid fog]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but if I upgrade an existing pre-order pack to include alpha 2 access, when will that access be for?

[tight gale]

October 25, 2024.

[limpid fog]

Thank you!

[obtuse talon]

@tight gale so if you bought a package for A2 within the packs sold in the last few years is it oct 25 or nov 8th for A2 access? - its a bit unclear

[tight gale]

If you previously bought Alpha Two, you get to join at the start of Alpha Two which is October 25, 2024.

People who are buying First, Second, and Third Wave, get in later and NOT at the start of Alpha Two.

[snow ember]

Think there needs to be an announcement so people don’t keep asking the same question about a2 lol

[tight gale]

We will have an FAQ next week. 😉

As noted on the livestream.

[reef osprey]

@tight gale just wanted to say, nice stream, really enjoyed it

[eager bloom]

what’s the reasoning for this?

[tight gale]

I implore you to watch the stream, as we explain there.

[reef osprey]

@snow ember i made a picture to visualize it, figured that with the amount of questions, it make sense to picture it easily

Hopefully i understood it correctly, maybe margaret can confirm quickly?

[eager bloom]

I did but maybe I missed the part where the start delay was explained? Is it because of the CCU and networking?

[tight gale]

Please don't share that around - it has misinformation on it.

[reef osprey]

oh sorry, thank you for the heads up

[worthy verge]

im still kinda confused about realms will there be enough realms for players not not bee stuck in 30k+ queue?

[tight gale]

Yes, we will continually create more realms as needed. 😉

[eager bloom]

@tight gale how much roughly should we expect Beta to cost additionally, since it’s no longer included with Alpha 2? Because that may impact the decision to purchase the new A2 keys

[fresh urchin]

Might be good for you guys to create a visual timeline like that so that everyone stops being confused about it

[tight gale]

I cannot share that information at this time. We have not decided whether we are opening up Beta One and Beta Two for additional access.

When we do, we'll let folks know.

[tight gale]

We will have an article next week about the First, Second, and Third Wave - along with an FAQ.

[reef osprey]

@tight gale ❤️

looking forward to the FAQ

as i'm confused what i had wrong

[fresh urchin]

yeah but specifically a visual thing like that which includes the beta1/2 and ptr transition stuff, since everyone has different ideas of what you mean when you talk about that

alpha 2 running alongside the betas etc

[tight gale]

We will not be showing Beta information at this time.

[fresh urchin]

not dates

you keep saying alpha 2 will run alongside the betas, everyone says that means different things

and today steven said alpha 2 will run up until beta 1 which seems to conflict

[granite vigil]

Will we be able to purchase packs or something when we get access to the alpha 2, or is all of the packs no longer sold?

[fresh urchin]

a visual would be nice

[tight gale]

We said Alpha Two would turn into a Test Realm that we will use to test content before it goes to Beta One / Beta Two users.

Shall see what we can do.

[tight gale]

Packs are no longer sold. (If you previously bought a pack though, you can still upgrade.)

[scarlet sparrow]

If someone has access to alpha 2, would it be disallowed to grant a friend access to an account to have him/her test the game for him/herself for an hour or so?
Haven't read the ToS on account sharing, maybe someone has so I dont have to :3 :3

[maiden spire]

The part that confused me was NDA test of beta, but if test realm has all the content of beta (plus some that's going to be moved to beta). Then what is there to NDA?

[tight gale]

Accounts are not transferrable and not tradeable - you cannot SHARE your account with anyone. It is against our ToS.

[scarlet sparrow]

Unfortunate, but fair enough ig

Thank you!

[tight gale]

The NDA would be on the Test Realm. Not Beta. 😛

[maiden spire]

Aha! Thanks.

[true fossil]

i see lots of salty people that didnt buy the pre order in time. your only key is PATIENCE its not even october yet

[flat lake]

@tight gale are there plans for gold selling bots that plague other MMOs trade and lfg channels? And will there be bans fast enough to battle them? What are the stance interpid will take on gold rtm in general?

[tight gale]

We will remove them.

[coral herald]

In the Community Q&A (April 2023), Steven said "Alpha 2 is intended to exist up until launch."
Is that still the case? No longer the case? Or simply uncertain at this time?

[reef osprey]

@tight gale maybe one more question, not sure if you can answer that or not. If you don't want to speak to that, feel free to ignore it
But you talked about lawless zones on the maps.
Previously, we just knew them from the open seas.

Are lawless zones something you consider for certain zones on the continents even on launch or is that solely for testing purposes during the Alpha?

[fresh urchin]

Just to clarify, this is the information currently being spread. If this plan has changed it would be good to let people know:

The test realm was originally said to start after launch

[tight gale]

Yes, it will run in parallel, but it will turn into a Test Realm. (That was the part I was referring to.)

[fresh urchin]

And it will turn into the test realm when beta 1 starts essentially, not after launch?

[grave void]

how is the super secret nda testing which is occuring right now going?

[tight gale]

Correct. That's the change. (Not a big deal though. lol)

[eager bloom]

@tight gale Not to sound like a hater, but for years you guys have driven home the “no p2w” aspect of the game about made it so that only the people who can afford it financially, can help test? is that not exactly the thing Steven was trying to combat, but with a different twist? Don’t hate me for playing devil’s advocate, just trying to understand. 🙃

[fresh urchin]

Yeah just good to clear up, thanks for that!

[coral herald]

So does that means someone buying Alpha 2 access will have a period of time before launch when they can neither play the Alpha nor sub to the game? Or would Alpha 2 players simply continue on the test realm?

[eager bloom]

To clarify, I’ll be buying an A2 key, I just want to know that it’ll be worth it since Beta is no longer included, and why it seemingly goes against what Steven claims to stand for when it comes to paying/playing, since having money readily available doesn’t exactly equal caring about how this game fares

[sterile herald]

@tight gale what are Treasure Maps? are they like Clue Scrolls from RuneScape?

also, hello

[strange yew]

I always viewed it as in game items/mechanics/boosts. Seems like a stretch to extend it to alpha fees. They have servers to pay for to handle capacity etc.

[reef osprey]

to quote steven "they are a lot of fun"

[sterile herald]

[visual mauve]

So what the Fuck happened to October alpha 2?

[sterile herald]

it's still october

[reef osprey]

@visual mauve October 25

[tight gale]

This is not P2W. It's paying to play, so we can afford the realm, CDN costs, etc. It doesn't affect Launch other than you getting to be a HUGE part of the development process and help shape the game through feedback and voting.

We've stated this a few times. If you feel this way, please don't buy into our Alpha and Beta phases.

[wind saffron]

In phase 1, is the goal to have a test every weekend or more sporadically? Similar question with the 5 day tests in phase 2?

[storm hound]

stil happening, but only for those who bought packages

i think

[tight gale]

Alpha Two players can continue to test on the Test Realm, or they can purchse into the Beta phases if they choose to.

[tight gale]

Alpha Two is launching October 25, 2024.

[tight gale]

They are things you find in the world and take you on fun adventures to find treasure. 😉

[tepid orbit]

I think this should've been communicated better during the stream

[strange yew]

Will there be a feedback/voting system post launch that will be in game and limited to people paying the subscription? (I’ve seen voting out of games abused by people not playing it, using multiple accounts)

[coral herald]

That's the clear response I was looking for. Thank you. As a former community manager, I wish you the best of luck! 😄 Hope you've got ample supply of drinks and snacks beside you.

[tight gale]

We did, but perhaps people didn't quite understand. We'll make sure it's clear in the FAQ.

[pulsar verge]

when will we be able to buy into the beta?

[tight gale]

It's something we can definitely discuss. We want to continue to work with our community post-launch too! 🙂

[eager bloom]

This changes everything, you’re saying the 24/7 A2 phase three will be persistent even when Beta 1/2 are out?

[pulsar verge]

lol thx

[sterile herald]

@tight gale How is the Content Creator program comming along and will it be In Phase 1?

[reef osprey]

i wonder who here answered the most questions, is it talents?
he should get a discord badge for that imo

maybe a title ingame

Le Wise One

[pulsar verge]

"the scroller"

[tight gale]

We are currently still hiring for the Content Creator Program Manager - once I get to on board them, we'll begin launching that with an invite phase. ❤️

So I hope it can hit Phase 1 timeline, but it may not unfortunately. Either way, we'll keep people in the loop once we start the invite phase.

[coral herald]

To be fair, they have said before that the Beta phases will be really short and essentially content-complete. Not the fake Betas that most game studios run these days.

[storm hound]

Pretty sure I know the answer to this, but not sure if it has an official answer, though imma ask anyways.. Is alpha 2 expected to last over a year following the launch of phase 3

[reef osprey]

How is hiring in the current environment? Hard, easy?
Do you have difficulty finding the kind of developers and support staff you are looking for?

[visual mauve]

The Oct 25 is a 3 day test. The Dec test is 5 day. So the persistent Alpha 2 test in May 2025 is total bull shit. I'm going to chargeback for sure. This game is turning into a shit show

[sterile herald]

ty

[wind saffron]

How many weekend (phase 1) and 5-day (phase 2) tests should we expect? One every week, once a month, one per phase, etc.

[coral herald]

I think that means 3 days a week. Not 3 days total.

[fresh urchin]

they're not going to give dates like this right now, but based on the planned content for "the first few months of phase 3" and the scope of the game I think you can make an educated guess

[tight gale]

It will change into a Test Realm where we test content before we ship it to the Beta One/Beta Two realms.

This has been known.

[fresh urchin]

I think the main question there is if the test realm will be persistent still

[eager bloom]

but when beta 1/2 are running, A2 players can still access the test realm? I guess that’s what I was asking

[tight gale]

We get A LOT of applicants, but we are picky.

[flat lake]

Sorry if this is known but do we know if ashes will have an auction house?

[coral herald]

Yeah and if there will be an additional fee / subscription involved with accessing the Test Realm.

[sterile herald]

@tight gale Do the node layouts mean the # of nodes or just the number of unique nodes? like will different nodes have the same layouts? or is it a matter of building slots?

if so, how many nodes will there be in the Phase 1 map?

[reef osprey]

@eager bloom
maybe you didn't see that one before. I assume that will be clarified next week 🙂

[tight gale]

That is correct.

[eager bloom]

That changes everything. @tight gale Thanks for your help.

[tight gale]

Auction Houses come online in A2 Phase 3.

[civic kestrel]

Alpha 2 is persistent starting October 25. It's just not 24/7 until May.

Intrepid has worked really hard to deliver, and the slow rollout plan makes plenty of sense from a development perspective.

But if you are not here to test and provide feedback, and you aren't patient enough to roll with the punches as they go along this journey, you are better off waiting until Launch anyway to play the game.

[crystal beacon]

Is there an official online forum where we can post a detailed list of bugs from today once testing is complete? I feel like it's going to get lost in the spam if I post it on discord

[sterile herald]

how will the economy function with no AH? will there be a way to trade materials between players? Are player shops supposed to do this in Phase 2?

[digital sonnet]

Please don't be discussing today's test in any channel that's not marked as an NDA'ed channel.

[crystal beacon]

That's why I'm asking for the official channel

A link would be great 😊

[tight gale]

Yes, players can trade with one another. (That will be in at the start of A2.)

[tight gale]

There are - tagged you in the channel.

[coral herald]

Is Phase 1 going to be active every weekend or just some weekends?

[tight gale]

The goal is every weekend.

[flat lake]

Will we be able to trade with other players even after the auction house will be implemented

[sterile herald]

but will there not really be open economies, like a node-wide market to buy and sell mats from? will players have to negotiate for each material they want to buy with individual players?

*before Phase 2

[tight gale]

Yep!

[sterile herald]

also is this Saturday+Sunday or Friday to Sunday?

[tight gale]

I do not undestand the question. It's 72 hours, so starting Friday, going into Saturday, and ending Sunday.

[sterile herald]

ah, that is the question

so it's 3 days

then what days will Phase 2 include?

[tight gale]

Ja

[tight gale]

We will provide more information as Phase 2 gets closer.

[sterile herald]

ah, ty

[wind saffron]

Every week of phase 1?

[grim oyster]

Explain the keys...First Wave Key is phase 1 only or does access persist through the other phases?

[tight gale]

That is the goal.

[flat lake]

@tight gale is there somewhere where we can read how the pvp and corruption system will be working in more detail? Im assuming corruption is a system to avoid extensive pk?

[strange yew]

Persists

[tight gale]

It persists through the other phases.

[daring sorrel]

Sorry what is the ETA for alpha phase 2? did i miss an announcement?

[strange yew]

Alpha2 phase 1 Oct 25
Alpha2 phase 2 Dec 20
Alpha2 phase 3 May 1, 2025 (all dates planned but subject to change)

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Corruption

Corruption in Ashes of Creation refers to:

Player corruption gained through the PvP flagging system.
Corruption tarnishes the character’s spiritual essence. Their ability to utilize the Verra’s magic found within them is diminished. – Steven Sharif
Corrupted Essence is the negative aspect of The Essence, spread by The Ancients during the Apocalyp...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Corruption

[reef osprey]

@flat lake

[flat lake]

Ty

[reef osprey]

you welcome friend

[sterile herald]

@tight gale Will all the archetypes be expanded in Phase 2 or is it just the rouge for now?

[flat lake]

Wiki is up to date on info im assuming right?

[sterile herald]

I mean all the other

All the ones from phase 1

will they get new/more skills

[reef osprey]

yes Lex is doing a very good job there

[tight gale]

• Rogue is Phase II
• Summoner and Secondary Archetypes for Cleric and Tank is Phase III

[reef osprey]

@sterile herald sorry misunderstood the question 🙂

[flat lake]

How many archetypes can we expect to be up and running at the start of phase 3?

[sterile herald]

yes, but will the non-summoner/rouge archetypes be Improved in Phase 2 or will reworks be announced later?

[strange yew]

I updated it, in case you were actually wondering about alpha 2 instead of alpha 2 phase 2.

[fresh urchin]

everything except summoner

[tight gale]

At the start of Phase 3 - 7 Archetypes (all of them except Summoner), Summoner will launch in Phase 3.

[flat lake]

Will be playable with all their combinations? o:

[fresh urchin]

not secondary (only primary archetypes at the start of phase 3)

[tight gale]

Reworks? We will continue to add improvements for all archetypes.

[sterile herald]

thats what I mean, will those improvements drop between phases or be more in the update cadance that was announced? once every 6 weeks

[reef osprey]

i'm still kinda wondering about the lawless zones on the continents <.<
Whether they are just an A2 testing feature or something that might be considered to stay for launch in certain ways
I hope we get some more information on that soon.

I'm a big fan of them, if applied correctly with care

[tight gale]

Bugs will be resolved in the 3 week cadence in our Minor Updates.

Big updates to features like archetypes will happen at the 6 week cadence in our Major Updates.

[sterile herald]

ah, thank you

[flat lake]

@tight gale i know this may be way to early to discuss this,but do we know how the team will tackle class balance in general? Meaning will we have frequent balance changes or more like wow that mainly do balance changes to outliners during expansions

[reef osprey]

@flat lake after launch or during Alpha phases?

[fresh urchin]

they mentioned minor balance in their 3 week cadence and major balance in the 6 week cadence

[flat lake]

After lunch thats why im asking in general,like what are their vision for it

[fresh urchin]

too early for that

[sterile herald]

You doing well @tight gale ?

Not succumbing to the crunch?

[tight gale]

VERY PREGGO, but otherwise, good.

[flat lake]

Wonder if Margaret is an alpha tester herself

[flat lake]

Oh congrats,boy or girl?

[tight gale]

We will continually be making archetype balance changes, but you'll see a lot more of that in Beta phases as the Secondary Archetypes are fleshed out more in-game.

[eager bloom]

@tight gale Will the usernames we choose for A2->onwards be wiped at launch? I assume so, yeah?

[lucid horizon]

Will anyone who buys the A2 key be able to upgrade to other packages? @tight gale

[reef osprey]

i remember our first child, the weeks leading up to it were very draining, but really rewarding. The building excitement was very fun to experience.
(Easy to say for me i guess, because i wasn't the fun running around with a baby in my belly) lol

[tight gale]

Boy. 😉

[reef osprey]

Can i name him?

[fresh urchin]

yes

[reef osprey]

I'd name him Raphael

[fresh urchin]

no

[tight gale]

Your character names? Yeah, they may get wiped if we need to wipe persistence. We will try not to if we can, but there may be times where we are making big Database changes due to performance, etc - so we may have to.

[thick grove]

would it be alright if i dmed you a specific question about the content creator program? or can you possibly dm me from here if your dm's are turned off? thank you!

[tight gale]

No.

We are no longer selling packages. Only people who have previously purchased packages can upgrade their packages.

[sterile herald]

@tight gale To what extent will the game play loops be focused around PVE, PVP, and PVX content for each of Phase 1, 2, and 3 respectively

[tight gale]

Sure, DM me.

[thick grove]

Thank you!

[tight gale]

Please go watch the livestream. 😉

We showed the content and systems related to that all.

[sterile herald]

ah, ty

[near stump]

Friday to Sunday is only 48 hours. Will it be Friday to Monday?

[tight gale]

Okay - no more questions for me. Gotta move on to next thing.

[flat lake]

@tight gale will the a2 packages reopen sometime during the alpha 2 phase?

[sterile herald]

friday morning to Sunday midnight

[fresh urchin]

it's 72 if you include those 3 days

[near stump]

If you assume it'll start and end at midnight, but what game has ever done that?

They aren't going to open A2 up at midnight...

[sterile herald]

ty

[tight gale]

Sorry, I didn't mean it will be perfectly 72 hours!

Just that it runs Friday, Sat, and Sunday.

Don't come for me homies.

[fresh urchin]

😄

[near stump]

Thanks, was just looking for clarification bc a lot of tests run Friday to Monday morning since the dev team won't be in the office to look at things until Monday anyways

[alpine zodiac]

Understandable, have a nice day!

[hallow lintel]

How do you purchase a key?

[tardy prairie]

wait till August 21

@hallow lintel

[hallow lintel]

Ty bb

[tardy prairie]

remember they will be able to sell out

so you may want to be quick

[reef osprey]

i think the risk for that will be rather small, don't create fomo

[latent blade]

Feel free to correct me but from my understanding: Alpha 2 access has the 3 waves like listed here, but for $120 we don’t get beta access included (even though Alpha 2 was supposed to run till launch AKA be the Beta) ? Or am I misunderstanding

[fresh urchin]

A2 still runs till launch, it just turns into test realms when the beta starts

[near stump]

Alpha 2 and Beta 1/2 will run at the same time on different servers when Beta 1/2 launches

[reef osprey]

everybody who is unsure should wait till Alpha phase 2, you will barely miss 6 weekends (who might be plagued by networking and server issues)/testing anyway
by then you have a better picture of what alpha will have to offer

[latent blade]

Oooof. That’s just vile work right there

[reef osprey]

@latent blade vile?

[near stump]

A2 has access until launch so I don't see any issue with it

[thorn gull]

will they have the same content or alpha servers will just be not updated servers?

[near stump]

Forums is a better place to post this. Devs don't lurk here much at all

[near stump]

Same content

[fresh urchin]

Frankly there are too many A2 testers for an NDA to work

[heavy silo]

Thanks ro

[reef osprey]

actually the alpha servers will receive the content first to test for Beta server deployment

[latent blade]

As long as A2 is kept up to date like the beta realms will be then sure. If Alpha realms are behind a patch or however they do it then it’s almost useless I assume ?

[reef osprey]

@thorn gull in most cases A2 server (PTR) should be ahead to the beta server or equal

[fresh urchin]

it's going to be testing the content before the beta gets it apparently

[near stump]

Beta's will be very short tests so you don't really have to worry about this

My suggestions, forget about the betas. Alpha 2 is all we need to think about as we won't see beta's for a long time

[latent blade]

Fair enough. Just feels weird to separate the two when it’s prob easier to just enable ppls accounts for flash tests than have separate servers

[hallow lintel]

I didnt know A2 ran till release. Thats actually good news for those that didnt knos

[latent blade]

That’s it’s biggest selling point imo

[near stump]

Things can change. So maybe that will. Just put the betas in the background until they're approaching

[sterile herald]

@idle siren are node layouts the # of nodes or just the number of unique nodes? like will different nodes have the same layouts? or is it a matter of building slots?

[flat lake]

Yeah i see betas coming at 2026 at the earliest, noone should be thinking about betas right noww

[near stump]

You won't get a response from Steven here...

[lucid horizon]

The fanboy's excuse before was that the company wasn't charging you to test your game if you bought it but you would get a monthly gold cosmetics fee, today it's charging players for alpha access, don't you think this $100 sale just for the key wouldn't be bad for the community?

[sterile herald]

cant hurt to try

[fresh urchin]

tbf he mentioned coming in the discord today, so they might

but random pinging is unlikely to help

[near stump]

He'd be in the discussions channels. Never seen him here. Seen him there a bunch

[sterile herald]

why not just say that?

[fresh urchin]

he talks in here sometimes

[hallow lintel]

Ask margeret

[fresh urchin]

she left

[latent blade]

My only argument against the price (that I can afford and it not bother me at all) is just cause someone is paying $500 or however much the previous packs were doesn’t = they are magically a good game tester or play at all. Most of the ppl I know irl who have the bigger packages are some of the most illiterate gamers on earth who prob can’t tell difference between a bug or intended gameplay I do understand wanting to have some type of picket fence up to avoid bots/trolls as much as possible

[near stump]

He has sent 10 pages of messages in #aoc-discussion more recently than his last msg in here

[fresh urchin]

This is a discussion topic so #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion

[maiden spire]

More info for the roadmap was mentioned. Will this include which items are at the start of the phase and which are later?

[sterile herald]

cool

[latent blade]

Wondering with Ashes being such large scale from videos I’ve seen if they will go the route of something akin to Rated Battlegrounds like WoW or fall into the trap that is arena for ranked pvp content

[fresh urchin]

current plans are arena

[latent blade]

That is extremely depressing (unless Bgs aren’t even a thing in Ashes) then I understand but man Arena is so boring and lifeless. If I wanted TDM I’d go play cod or halo, gimme larger team fights and obj play

[grim oyster]

I feel this. Always liked tactical battles more.

[hallow lintel]

End game will always feel like a waste of time unless you are mental and want to prove you are the best

[fresh urchin]

instanced BGs arent planned atm, just arena

[reef osprey]

you know that it primarily is an open world focused mmo with most of the pvp happening organically in the open world, rather than in instanced matchmaking?

[sterile herald]

just do sieges if you like pvp

[grim oyster]

Node Wars, Sieges are objective based PvP and matter more than arena.

[tulip hatch]

Hello friends
This channel is for direct questions and answers

Please move any discussions, comments or opinions to the appropriate places

#general-discussion or #aoc-discussion

[latent blade]

Sieges I assume are Guild/group X vs all others ? Or have a player cap in place akin to New Worlds war system

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Sieges

Sieges in Ashes of Creation refer to:

Castle sieges, where guilds battle to occupy one of five Guild castles.
Node sieges, which are open world battles fought to destroy nodes.
The risk versus reward relationship, when, say for instance, you've dedicated time towards building a node and other players have dedicated that equivalent time towards si...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Sieges

[crystal beacon]

I don't have access to those channels, do they require a special role?

[near stump]

Go to #read-me-first and select English

[fresh urchin]

you should probably stick to the nda channels though

[crystal beacon]

Ahhh kk

[hollow ivy]

saw this in a video. Does that mean 3k players in a server?

[fresh urchin]

3k concurrent at the start of alpha 2

[hollow ivy]

thats crazy

[fleet kettle]

In a realm yes.

[hollow ivy]

hopefully I'm lucky enough to get a key

[fleet kettle]

One realm technically has a grid of “servers” used to allow such a high population

[hollow ivy]

Oh, its not like getting picked. But can be purchased. Nice I'm definitely getting a key

[hollow ivy]

I heard purchasing First Wave key gets you access to phase 1,2 and 3?

[covert urchin]

You can buy a key Wednesday

[covert urchin]

Yes

[hollow ivy]

Oh nice

[fleet kettle]

Yeah. But heads up you’ll need to buy into beta as well so holding off till then might be a good decision

[spiral pine]

A2 turns into PTR

so you wont have to

[fleet kettle]

Alpha keys do not include beta access

Unless I am wrong, which is entirely possible

[hollow ivy]

Thats fine. I always wanted to finally get into testing years before for Ashes, but was always busy and put it aside. Not this time.

[spiral pine]

Youre correct

[strong mango]

You're correct Lad

[covert urchin]

You are correct, but the Alpha 2 turns in the PTR which tests the updates before they go to beta version

[fleet kettle]

I thought PTR was way past beta. PTR coexisting alongside full release

[covert urchin]

OH, I didn't take it that way

[spiral pine]

Its running alongside the betas

[fleet kettle]

Yeah my understanding was that the alpha would run until the beta. The beta would run until the full launch. And then the alpha keys would give access to PTR.

Maybe PTR starting along beta? Idk on that

[spiral pine]

PTR is going to run alongside the betas

[fleet kettle]

Got it

Kind of a shame buying alpha key doesn’t give beta access. I just hope they don’t charge too much for beta. Or give alpha key holders a discount or something

Paying $120 to help test alpha and then having to pay near that same price again for beta would leave a poor taste

[covert urchin]

I imagine that if you are actually testing and giving feedback you'll get in. Steven mentioned that reporting game breaking bugs and exploits will be heavily rewarded.

[strong mango]

game breaking bugs, exploits, and hacks

[fleet kettle]

I assume we’ll learn more on that later. I think it’s just the lack of info on that specific front that feels weird when they are so clear everywhere else

[fresh urchin]

Margaret confirmed this was modified a bit, so it's during the betas now

[languid halo]

Can we purchase alpha 2 keys somewhere?

[fresh urchin]

21st

[languid halo]

Ty!

[near stump]

On their website shop at 11am PT

[stark solstice]

Thousands of A1 players? Are there any A1 players still waiting to get an email like me?

[spiral pine]

Not every A1 player is in yet

There's still thousands more that haven't gotten an invite

[stark solstice]

I don’t remember that many thousands in A1, maybe I’m tripping

Plurar

[spiral pine]

16k is the number

[stark solstice]

Yeah I don’t remember there were THAT many.

[pure temple]

Im not in

[stark solstice]

I had to update my email, had no other choice, and it’s worrying me I’ll never get it when it’s sent, even after requesting help from support, not confident it’s resolved and I hit a wall with them.

[pure temple]

I bet a lot are still waiting lol, but atleast now we have a date for alpha 2

[stark solstice]

Can someone confirm the last email received from Intrepid? Just the date please?

[pure temple]

last one i got from em was Aug 12th about the bard

[stark solstice]

Yep, never got that one.

Ugh

[pure temple]

did you check your spam?

[twin ledge]

Will there be dual wielding other weapons like swords and axes in the future, or just daggers?

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Dual wielding

Dual wielding will be permitted for selected one handed weapons, such as Daggers, Maces, and Swords.

Dual weapons are treated as single items that when equipped will occupy both main and off-hand gear slots.
A specific recipe will include previously completed one-handed weapons that are intending to be dual wielded.
All dual weapons use the same...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Dual_wielding

[stark solstice]

Yeah, nothing.

They are whitelisted too

Im just going to submit another support ticket, thanks

[hybrid solar]

I dont understand how paying to participate in an Alpha for $120 just to bug find for the company instead of them having their own workers do it, without actually giving a copy of the game as well when it releases is good business or good faith to the fan base. Seems real scummy.

[spiral pine]

Did you sign up to receive emails?

[stark solstice]

Yeah

[spiral pine]

They do have a dedicated QA team and also hire external QA

[twin holly]

ashes doesnt have a box cost at launch , its all subscription based. there were packages that included sub time etc and those stopped. too many people keep asking how to get into A2 so they provided a way to do so. if you dont wanna get in and help bug test then dont buy a key

[hybrid solar]

120 is insane! atleast give some kind of incentive.

[twin holly]

its not meant to be a way to play the game, its like they keep saying its alpha not early access, so if you dont want to help test and find bugs etc wait till release. its a true alpha , its not like steams early access where you are just buying the game in a unfinished state

[hybrid solar]

thats fine, but why are the consumers paying 120 dollars to bug fix... thats a crazy price to pay. Just seems off

[rigid rose]

@hybrid solar hello! You might want to go by the #read-me-first and select language role. This will open up the rest of the Server like the AoC discussion channel. This channel is just for questions and answers.

Also welcome!

[hallow lintel]

Also A2 is released until the game comes out so its not terribly bad.. i was dkscussing the 120 issue earlier

[twin holly]

the packs they used to sell had incentives and sub time etc but they stopped that cos their hit their intended target of testers, now with their tech getting better more people can test if they wanna get in on it and the price is set like that as to not screw over previous pack owners etc.

[stark solstice]

But you’re not obligated to play an alpha, if you don’t want to be involved in the process just wait till release?

[rigid rose]

Friends this is more of a Discussion please move it to a appropriate channel.

[stark solstice]

Anyways, questions and answers only, I’m done. Sorry

[rigid rose]

[rare fractal]

There’s also the thought that if people pay the $120 they will actually dedicate the time to play the game. Instead of just buying a key and taking it away from someone who actually wants to play. I know the price is high but it has a purpose.

[subtle musk]

does alpha 2 access get me anything else if i buy it? or am i literally just paying $120 for the alpha?

[twin holly]

these new keys as far as i know is just A2 access, they dont have subtime embers etc like all the old packs that were available

[kind pier]

They also do NOT include beta access

[safe basin]

So they are expecting alot of alpha testers. was there ever anything said on the number of Keys available? For example Purchase opens up and x amount of people buy and its considered to many will it be cut off early? or will it just be x amount of people in the Allotted time frame for Purchase for Phase 1?

[kind pier]

No ospecific numbers yet, but they did say theyd be limited.

[safe basin]

so its first come first serve

[night yoke]

It was indicated as “While supplies last”

[terse dew]

maybe just limited time

[safe basin]

i really really hope its limited time and not while supplies last.

[queen basin]

So what time on October 25 will we have access?

[kind pier]

I'd assume so. But again no specifics in how they plan to handle it.

[night yoke]

I’m just going off the slide. All keys have a end date or until supplies last listed

[subtle musk]

seems like a fuckin rip to me boys?!?!?!?!?

i wanna play the game n all

[twin holly]

one would assume 1pm central release time probably but could be later in the day. i only say about 1pm because that gives them time for any screwups before those devs not handling the tests to leave work

[subtle musk]

but sheesh

[safe basin]

you would think for the Stress testing they would want asmany as they can get

[safe basin]

im completly fine with the price

[subtle musk]

for a game that may or may not come out idk about payin 120 for alpha access thats pretty absurd if u ask me. dont get me wrong, game looks sick and i hope the best. but ffs

[twin holly]

there is already 100k+ people with A2 access just from the previous pack sales , obviously not all of them will be testing etc but still there is plenty and the additional they are putting out could increase later on or could be another sale later

[kind pier]

You'll be able to play for $15 a month when it comes out 😉

[subtle musk]

i guess youre right lol

[safe basin]

yea i understand. i love being apart of the creation process of games. would hate to miss the chance. but anyways thanks

and thanks to everyone else

[subtle musk]

throw me a bone with it or somethin at least like how about a shirt or somethin XD

give me a title

an alpha tabard

something 😭

[dawn sail]

$120 will give access to Alpha 2 Phase 1, 2 and 3? Or just Alpha 2 Phase 1 only? Thank you

[safe basin]

1 - 3, and then the Alpha will be converted into the Public test server, when they are ready to do that.

[safe basin]

and Alpha persistence is going to be the goal around May? i believe (phase 3) Correct me if im wrong people.. only wipe's when they absolutely have to..? so that when it should feel like the real thing. ( for the most part )

[red wolf]

are they selling a2 access again?

[safe basin]

Aug 21st yes

[red wolf]

nice

[safe basin]

#questions message

[red wolf]

tyty

[solid root]

Can I refund the more expensive package of Alpha 2 you swore was the last one and buy this cheaper one?

[desert ivy]

https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order

They never said it was the final way to get A2 access

https://youtu.be/L5DeC8wIcuM?t=7358

"we may be opening up a2 access in a different form at some point closer to alpha 2"

[twin holly]

i think the policy was 90 days? but considering its been 7 months i doubt it , if they did refund it would be totally upto them and case by case, only thing you could do would be put in a support ticket and hope but dont hold ya breath

[desert ivy]

Yes the policy is 90 days. Unless you upgraded your pack from Beta to Alpha 2 in the last 90 days there's no way to get a refund

[solid root]

Sigh... I fell for the FOMO, on me... Just another game company now. Ill see you in Alpha in Q3 November hopefully

[oak minnow]

forced pvp

[west meteor]

Good point

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

PvP

PvP (Player versus player combat) is the catalyst for change in Ashes of Creation. Player combat is intended to be meaningful, ranging from Caravan battles to vast open world conflicts fought for the pride of Kings and Queens.

Because players are motivated by different things, because they want something from the game that other players don't wan...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvP

[oak minnow]

Sorry - it was actually a question - is the PVP forced?

[desert ivy]

Yes in a way. There's an "anti-griefing" system called Corruption to stop senseless killing on unwilling players

You can always be attacked by other players at almost any time though

[oak minnow]

Ok thanks - I appreciate the link and the answer

[strong mango]

The majority of players will experience PvP through opt-in objective-based battlegrounds. These are high risk and high reward encounters that do not utilize the corruption system.
Sieges.
Caravans.
Guild wars.

not almost at any time

There are also reasons to engage in open world PvP, which is subject to the player flagging and corruption system.
Contesting open-world dungeons or raids.
Contesting scarce resources and hunting grounds.

[desert ivy]

You can be attacked by other players at almost any time. Only exceptions that we know of are when you're inside a Freehold house, when you're running a player shop, and logically when you're inside an instanced dungeon or other instance where other players can't get to you

[strong mango]

From what I read you also have to flag

[desert ivy]

You don't. There's 3 flagging states. Non-combatant (green), combatant (purple), corrupted (red). You can still be attacked as a non-combatant, but if you're killed then the attacker becomes corrupted

[strong mango]

"There are also reasons to engage in open world PvP, which is subject to the player flagging and corruption system."

Guess I will be finding the remote parts of the world then

that type of system never ends well for a lot of folks

but we shall see

[twin holly]

the corruption system is very indepth so you wont have to worry about it as much as you are possibly thinking, its there to promote pvp and people fighting back while punishing the griefers

[strong mango]

Fair point and I will wait and see.

but my experience with some of the older MMOs like that left a sour taste in my mouth.

[sweet root]

Is scepter supposed to be a magic weapon? Have staves been announced for the final game?

[twin holly]

staves are a intended weapon yes, https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Weapons

[sweet root]

thanks!

[robust geyser]

Does anyone know when the kickstarter upgrades go away?

[spiral pine]

They haven't announced when they're going away

[robust geyser]

Okay

[woeful seal]

Does alpha 2 key give us access thought alpha 1 and beta? Thx

Through*

[desert ivy]

Well A1 ended 3 years ago

The A2 keys that they're selling on the 21st don't give access to betas. But tbf Alpha 2 runs alongside the Betas, so you can still play on the A2 servers while the Betas are running

Betas are planned to be "short and sweet" phases so they won't last long compared to A2

[woeful seal]

Ah ok, either way $120 for over a year is fine for me. Thanks.

[opaque pebble]

Can Steven clarify the days that Phase Two of Alpha Two will have uptime? In the AMA Steven states "Planned weeklong uptimes, these are 5 days at a time with downtime on the in between weekends starting on the 20th (December)" Now the 20th of December is a Friday and doesn't line up with my interpretation of what Steven has stated. Apologies the language used was just a tad confusing.

[somber junco]

probably time to download before the test

[cold glen]

Will the game be available for all regions for Alpha 2 and beyond? I.e. in Southeast asia?

[twin holly]

steven has stated west europe and NA for alpha 2, other regions are planned for beta / launch tho. you can play on those servers while not from that region if thats what you mean tho, there isnt any region locking other than if your country has harmonized prices ( but this wont be till launch)

[woeful seal]

When keys go live, are they to be purchased from the shop?

[austere bobcat]

Can someone clarify the alpha 2 keys?, if someone buys a key for the first phase does this also give access to the following phases?

[woeful seal]

Yes

[twin holly]

it indeed does give access to following phases except beta

[austere bobcat]

Thanks needed to know for my friend 💀

[cold glen]

Yes, its fine as long as I can play. Was worried if I buy alpha key but not gonna be able to access. Thanks for answering

[wraith venture]

anyone know if there will be RP servers when the game drops? asking for a friend XD

[slate oyster]

I believe all servers will have the same settings. The amount of roleplay just depends on the individual players

[fading valley]

Was it stated that all professions will be in a playable state during phase one? Does that include animal husbandry?

[summer lynx]

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Servers#Server_types

There will not, there will also not be PvE servers.

[desert ivy]

Sounded like all the artisan classes will be in up to Journeyman level, just their "artisanship skill trees" won't be in until phase 2

[fading valley]

That's how I understood it as well. Thanks

[glossy reef]

This isn't a discussion channel

[shut mango]

I have purchased a founders pack back in 2017-2018. Can I participate in alpha 2?

[fleet reef]

For the alpha 2 phase 2 where it says " 5+ day availability " does it means 5+ days every week or just 5+ days at random set times?

[plush hawk]

Yes founders included alpha2 access, it should say so in your inventory when you log into the website alongside all your other items you received from the pack.

[plush hawk]

We don’t know that answer yet. Probably a good one to ask in the future amas

[twin holly]

one could safely assume its 5 a week but will have to wait for a real answer

[shut mango]

I got settlers 2 access(summer) and beta2. I don’t see an alpha 2 entry in inventory

[shut mango]

The pack I have purchased on July 22nd 2017 was a 50$ one and I recall they stated that we will have access to all testing phases

[plush hawk]

So it wasn't the founders that you purchased then, you stated in your question that you purchased founders. In that regard, you wont have access to A2. But you can upgrade via the shop or purchase an upcoming A2 key

[shut mango]

Is there an upgrade with a lower price or I must purchase one of the packages 100-110-120

Ok via the game shop from the website you mean ok

[twin holly]

seems settler was a kickstarter pack so its either upgradeable on the ashes website shop or via kickstarter still, im not certain how to go about it tho i just know its either or and you can upgrade that to get A2 access

[shut mango]

Shop is not accessible to me via the website.

[plush hawk]

Did you sign in?

[shut mango]

Yes I am signed in

[twin holly]

make sure you have linked / used your kickstarter code and if it still not showing then you would need to contact support

[shut mango]

Hmm I ll check that

[plush hawk]

You can check if you've linked by going to account then inventory.

your items from KS should be there.

[shut mango]

Yes I have many codes there.

[dreamy vector]

Keys aren’t for sale until the 21st

[shut mango]

Trying to find what I have to upgrade to get access. Except from buying these keys you say that were announced

[twin holly]

i would contact support and put a ticket in and they should be able fix it

[dreamy vector]

That is literally all

[sly monolith]

whhich oktober is alpha 2 launch? is that known?

[worn wagon]

Alpha 2 Phase 1 will launch on October 25th 2024

[mighty sparrow]

Hey all. First time posting in this community, long time follower for the game, and pledged via Kickstarter when it was a thing. Recently upgraded to the Braver of Worlds Package just for the lifetime subscription really and was hoping to ask you some questions.

Because I didn't go through the process of Alpha 1 and all that, when Alpha 2 comes through and the keys get distributed, should I assume that the key is sent out to my e-mail address? I just want to make sure on how its done instead of just making an assumption.

The only other thing I'm curious about, and its more of an opinion from those who played in the Alpha 1 phase really, is about the gameplay. When World of Warcraft was fairly new, I would play the game for hours in a more casual sense up to and during the WotLK expansion. I wasn't into the whole PvP side of things in a serious aspect or anything like that, I was playing the game more casually with friends. So if we were doing PvP or dungeons or whatever, win or lose didn't really matter.
So, I was wondering about what the gameplay is like when it comes to Ashes of Creation. Both in terms of how other players in the Alpha 1 phase was like and how the game was like during the Alpha 1 phase.

[twin holly]

not 100% certain but once A2 hits it should simply be logging into the launcher with your account since A2 would be tied to that, launcher will prob be downloadable from a link in email / website once available. i wasnt in A1 but it should be something like that, will 100% get an email saying A2 is starting etc tho

[plush hawk]

you'll get an email stating how to download the client when its closer to A2. also if you're looking for opinions of the game, best to ask in #aoc-discussion so you can have a discussion on it.

[mighty sparrow]

Thanking you.

Oh, lastly, lifetime subscription. The inventory doesn't have anything to suggest I have it, but it does mention the Upgrade to Braver of Worlds Package. Previously, there was a bug where, for the first several months, the shop had no icons to items or something, and I reached out and talked to someone and they fixed my account. I was wondering if its a case of another bug and not having the lifetime subscription, or if its not in the inventory and I will have lifetime subscription because of the Upgrade to Braver of Worlds Package.

[twin holly]

cant say about the lifetime sub showing in inventory but if its showing braver of worlds i wouldnt worry about it, as long as it shows that you should be fine

[mighty sparrow]

Okay, cool. Thank you so very much.

[frail minnow]

when will the game relase?

[storm vessel]

In the livestreams, any sense of the graphics quality devs are using? Is it medium or max? Relatedly, I’ve seen the minimum and recommended specs for A2–thoughts on specs needed for max quality?

[delicate echo]

If I have won A2 key in Extra Life stream will I be able to participate in All 3 phases?

[acoustic river]

if there will be a stream at the end of August?
And if so, on what topic?

[quick lion]

unknown, alpha 2 starts Oct. 25th

[quick lion]

yes

[quick lion]

topic unknown, we will see a dragon

[glossy sinew]

Will Alpha 2 Testers receive a title or emblem for such on launch?

[ruby swift]

While they have occasionally during past testing sessions given rewards when there were unforeseen issues, they have announced no plans about anything special being given to A2 participants so far.

[sterile flicker]

they called it a "raid" @quick lion don't know if it's open world or instanced though, we'll see. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2225875209?t=3h35m30s (timestamp included)

[quick lion]

as instanced content will come later it will be most likely one of the open world raidbosses

just didn´t want speculation in it

[shy kernel]

Will the keys be available continuously during the alpha phases or will they only be available for a set time?

[half zealot]

Where are the alpha2 invite waves displayed? Buyed an package 2-3 years ago. When will my wave start?

[severe cloud]

im not sure if they are displayed somewhere. for now they send invites in waves for A1 testers. A2 pre order testers start Oct 25

[half zealot]

Oh okay. So basicly voyager packages are in for 25th of october? Nice 🙌🙏 thx

[spiral pine]

Only the new keys work in phases

[severe cloud]

set time as shown

[spiral pine]

And pre A2 access works in waves for A1 testers

[severe cloud]

it was mentioned A2 key sales might end earlier than the dates seen above
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2225875209?t=2h35m2s

[smoky quest]

thank you, exactly what i was looking for! 🙂

[mortal folio]

When is the AMA getting uploaded to yt?

[severe cloud]

there is always the twitch vod until then

[spiral pine]

24hrs after the stream

[mortal folio]

Ty

[granite merlin]

it starts at around 2:47:02 on the vod iirc

Do we know the proportions of keys sold per region?

[safe basin]

All we know is it's while supplies last as shows in the picture #questions message

[granite merlin]

Apologies, worded poorly, I meant do we know how many of the 100k keys already sold, pertain to which regions. What % of keys are in NA etc

[safe basin]

Oh idk.

[spiral pine]

We don't know that

[polar berry]

Hey, everybody. Will those who bought the pre-order bundles (including the Alpha2 key) be allowed to play from the first phase of Alpha 2?

[heavy atlas]

Yes, you will be able to play from October 25th

[toxic pecan]

Only 1 hour

[humble gust]

hey. where can i buy the alpha 2 key

[fresh urchin]

on the shop the 21st

[granite merlin]

on the website starting wednesday

[humble gust]

oh okay

[granite merlin]

did they give a rough time between phase 3 and beta?

[whole dawn]

No, however betas are supposed to happen very close to launch. And phase 3 will only have around 5 out of the 18 planned biomes. So you just kinda have to fill in the blanks

[granite merlin]

gotcha, ta

[low path]

Where was this key screenshot shared? I cant find it in their socials or website

[ashen shadow]

yesterdays stream

[shadow bluff]

Articles and FAQ to be released this coming week.

[merry token]

Hey, will we have the character creation system and backgrounds system available in some Alpha 2 starter phases?

[mint citrus]

I don't think they mentioned backgrounds, but the CC will be available when Phase 1 starts.

[near stump]

They did say that it is their goal to have it up 5+ days a week. That is what they meant. But if issues arise they might not be able to guarentee that.

[rough gorge]

Did they say how they would be sending our keys ?

will it be the email on our account on the website?

[worn wagon]

Buying alpha 2 access will not give you a code to redeem, but instead automatically apply alpha 2 access to the account you purchased it with

[rough gorge]

ok so if you already have alpha 1 you will be automaticly be in alpha 2 then

Thanks

[near stump]

Not necessarily. If your inventory page on the website says you do, then yes. But many people won A1 keys that don’t have A2.

[rough gorge]

I have - [DEPRECATED] Intrepid Pre-Order Pack

[worn wagon]

According to your discord roles you bought the Intrepid pack, which had Alpha 2 included

[rough gorge]

Yep I am catching up on things 🙂 ok cool so I should just have access automatically then?

[worn wagon]

Yup! You should get more information via mail closer to the start of testing

[near stump]

Since you had Alpha 1 access, you will likely be invited to spot testing via email too. That would be prior to Oct 25th.

[rough gorge]

sounds good - thanks I double checked my profile email and its good too. I will keep eye out for emails

@worn wagon @near stump thx for the help

[hasty thistle]

@idle siren Will the game still have spears? I assume so but didn't see them in any of the phases but assume that to mean spears will just be coming after the phase 3 content completes but before launch is that accurate? A one handed spear and shield is too spicy to ignore lol.

[mortal folio]

yes

[silver shell]

Kickstarter related question.

There are roles for ppl with every pack (e.g $150 founder pack with alpha 2) or just higher ones?

[near stump]

There are roles for everyone with a KS pack that has Alpha 1 access

[near stump]

There are no roles related to A2 access at this time. Unsure if they’ll ever exist since it’s not under NDA

[silver shell]

Aye, thanks!

[simple pecan]

Anybody else unable to log into the site? It claimed the password/username was wrong, which it wasn't, I so I changed it. Same message after changing it...

[rough gorge]

@worn wagon like you were saying Alpha 2 Spot testing is only a random subset of Alpha One right? and thats why were all watching our email boxes?

[near stump]

Try a different browser/device

If that doesn’t work, submit a customer support ticket

!cs

[potent thunder]

Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[simple pecan]

Will submit a ticket then. No browser/device works. Thanks.

Clearly the info is correct since I was allowed to change the password and it verified by email my username, lol.

[worn wagon]

Currently, selected A1 testers are being invited to NDA Pre Alpha Spot Testing, correct. The goal is to invite all Alpha 1 users before the start of A2

[elder drift]

Will active Alpha 2 testers get access to Beta aswell or will they have to buy access for that?

[worn wagon]

It depends - if you bought a pre order package that contained Beta access, you'll get access to those phases. The Alpha 2 access that goes on sale starting August 21st will only grant you access to Alpha 2 testing.

[spiral pine]

and the PTR that runs alongside the betas

[torpid vortex]

Hello I have a question. I'm not sure if i get it right. Can someone please confirm

A2 Phase 1 = three days a week until May 1, 2025
A2 Phase 2 = five+ days a week until May 1, 2025

[rough gorge]

Thanks again for the response

[worn wagon]

A2 P1 has weekend tests every week until December 20th.
A2 P2 starts December 20th, features 5+ days long tests and lasts until May 1st.
A2 P3 starts May 1st and is planned to be online 24/7 until A2 ends.

[torpid vortex]

thanks for confirming, i think i got it right

[ancient egret]

Just making sure you know A2 Phase 1 also gets to play phase 2 and 3

[delicate echo]

How many A2 testers we have Steven has said but I forgot 100k?

[near stump]

Last number we got was 100k in Jan 2023

[hushed lotus]

Did Steven mentioned if we get an update on that number? Especially since fomo kicked in for many people since the packs closed and we have more keys getting sold

[near stump]

We haven't gotten an update on that number. Packs were sold until Jan 2024, so you can assume it's 101k+

[spiral pine]

He said the same number on the AMA

[near stump]

Sounds like he's just giving a very rough figure then since many more packs would've sold and been upgraded in that year.

[tall kraken]

Do we have a time when servers on friday will come online and when they will be closed ? Or at least if it's 48 hours (friday evening to sunday evening for example) or 72hours?

[fresh urchin]

confirmed not 72 hours, dont have anything more specific

[near stump]

Margaret did say Friday through Sunday

So we know it won’t start/end on Thursday/monday

[glossy sinew]

They specifically mentioned that playtime will be weekends Friday-Sunday with downtimes mon-Thursday

Oh lmao old comment

[fresh urchin]

he was talking about phase 2 which is the 5+ day one

[ashen shadow]

These spot testings before alpha 2 are only accessible for those who are invited? so not even for pre-order packages that go back to 2018?

[glossy sinew]

Unless you bought a key that was only alpha one access then everyone that bought keys prior to them taking the original keys down will have access to all of alpha two, that said they are still sending invite waves out on every Friday, so just wait your turn. You can also confirm this but checking your purchase log, on your intrepid account!

[fresh urchin]

They said they want to get everyone in who had alpha 1 access before the start of A2, so if you have A1 then you'll likely get an invite to the spot tests at some point, but they are invite only yes

[ashen shadow]

The packages included all alpha testings and beta etcetc.. so Im not even sure if there were purchases for ONLY alpha one back then like now with the only alpha 2 keys

[glossy sinew]

Margaret did mention there were keys prior that were only alpha one. But it will state that one the purchase. The majority of purchase options back then included access to everything.

[ashen shadow]

It's crazy that people who so early supported the game with the amount the pre packages costs back then dont just have access to these NDA tests wether its pre alpha 2, between alpha x and x.. but yea I guess in the end it doesnt matter the kind of support you give to a game studio. Once you paid you paid, nobody gives a f anymore. That's how it at least feels if you're not even able to join the short spot tests.

[fresh urchin]

This isnt the channel for opinions like this

#general-discussion or #aoc-discussion

[shadow bluff]

Keep this channel to questions. Take discussions to respective language channels.

[ashen shadow]

It's a feeling, not an opinion. but ill keep this channel clear for questions indeed.

[desert ivy]

They'll be adding people to the A1 spot tests as time goes on. The reason they didn't invite everyone at once was to actually collect useful data, not immediately brick the servers as soon as all 16k A1 testers tried to join

[glossy sinew]

As it doesn’t seem to have been addressed properly does anyone have an extended amount of knowledge on the worrying topic of whether or not intrepid funds are secure and if the game may be compromised?

#general-discussion message

Looking for some answers & therefor reassurance.

[glossy reef]

That's a fairly baity question based in pretty much nothing, but yes the funds are secure. Intrepid has stated they dont need more funding

[glossy sinew]

Apologies if that’s how it came across, thanks

[desert ivy]

The tl;dr of that post is

The Tax liens were 2 and a half years ago around February 2022 for I think $20k and $100k(?). Nothing since afaik. If $20k/$100k was enough to put them out of business then they'd have been bankrupt long ago since they wouldn't have been able to pay their 220+ employees each month.
The Jason Carmanis thing was dismissed last month.
The "FTB Suspended" is still a thing, basically they missed the 2023 tax return thing and (this part's a guess) they're probably arguing with the FTB about the exact amount they have to pay in taxes.

[glossy sinew]

That’s so true actually, the funds to keep intrepid alive and the coming key release that is not even beta access probably means they’ll have an influx anyhow, really appreciate the answer.

[silver bison]

i am assuming that if u bought a package beforehand ull have access to all 3 phases right

[storm orbit]

someone summarize what was said in the aplha 2 roadmap stream please! cause all im seeing is alot of commotion

[sonic wren]

is the presentation from the ama out already?

[near stump]

Yes, you’ll have access starting Oct 25th.

[fresh urchin]

They talked about how A2 will be 3 phases, phase 1 starting october 25th will be weekends only (+ friday), phase 2 will be 5+ days a week and start near the end of this year (probably), phase 3 will be 24/7 starting next may (also probably), they also talked about all the content that they plan to have by the end of each of the first 2 phases and by the end of a few months after phase 3 starts, and they talked about the new key purchases

[near stump]

They usually post a news article within a week of the stream on their website. I don’t see it yet

[worn wagon]

Correct (assuming it contains Alpha 2 access)

[desert ivy]

Keys are priced $120 for phase 1+ access, $110 for phase 2+ access, $100 for phase 3 access. The commotion you've probably seen is people upset with the key prices

[storm orbit]

say, if i purchased the bundles like way back when, im good for all phases?

[desert ivy]

If you bought a pack with A2 access then yes you're good for all phases

[storm orbit]

dub

[reef osprey]

what kind of bundle did you buy?

[storm orbit]

good question. i spent $250. soo i dont know the name of the bundle. but i got access to alpha 2 in my inventory it says 🙂

[reef osprey]

if you spent 250, then you certainly have alpha test access

[desert ivy]

The $250 pack gives access to all A2 phases yes

[reef osprey]

no worries there

[queen basin]

What time on October 25th does testing start, Modbot?

[reef osprey]

not announced yet

[desert ivy]

Hasn't been announced.

Logically it'll be sometime between 11am - 5pm PST

[queen basin]

Well logically it matters when it starts as to wether to take the day off. It's its 9 am CST that is one thing. If its 7 pm cst then no reason to take the day off

[near stump]

We likely won't know time of day until October.

It will be in the email that everyone who has access to test starting on Oct 25 receives.

[icy torrent]

I understand correctly that from oct 25 youll be able to play on the weekends up until dec 20 where this will change to 5 times a week?
edit: if you have alpha 2 access ofc

[whole dawn]

Yes

[icy torrent]

nice, ty

[mystic path]

I have a question about the status of super ultrawide (32:9) support. I asked the same question on the forums last year when I bought the game with access to alpha 2 and both beta’s. I got reply from ”Vaknar" saying many at the studio love playing on ultrawide monitors and that they would love to make it available. But will it be available at alpha 2? I game at 5120x1440, it would be great if us super ultrawide gamers here aren’t left in the dark.

[vapid veldt]

Any comments by intrepid regarding the tax lien imposed on them by the california state? % of Truth to those claims and general tax situation of intrepid studios?

[remote grail]

I might be late to the party but do we know anything about specific dates or times that the alpha keys will become available for purchase and whether or not they will be limited at all?

[sour plaza]

On the 21st you buy keys

this month

[paper onyx]

Question

I saw someone saying that people with the voyager plus 375$ pack have a special week-end before the Oct 25.

Is that true ? 🤔

[sick kite]

Since presumably (hopefully) the game will be around for decade plus, are there any plans for how to keep the art style from looking dated?

[near stump]

If it is, it isn't public knowledge. Therefore, it's either a rumor, or insider info.

[near stump]

They will be in limited quantities. Sales begin at 11am PT on Aug 21 on ashesofcreation.com/shop

[near stump]

#questions message

Assuming this is on the same topic

[vapid veldt]

Am I not on the questions channel?

[mint citrus]

Its a link to an answer to this already asked question.

[vapid veldt]

Oh, my bad, thanks

[honest delta]

Hello im new here. I missed alpha 1
what payment method do they take ?

[remote grail]

Ok thank you. That’s exactly what I needed to know

[worn pike]

is phase 1 only 3 days or ?

[desert ivy]

Phase 1 is every weekend (Friday - Sunday) from October 25th to December 20th when it transitions to phase 2 and turns to 5 days a week

[mint citrus]

Just to add to this, Phase 1 for people that haven't yet bought a key and are looking to on August 21st, will start on November 8th instead. Only the people with existing keys will get access in October.

[near stump]

Alpha 2 keys will be sold on the ashes of creation website starting August 21st at 11am PT. These keys will be for testing alpha 2 starting November 8th at the earliest.

Aside from credit/debit card, I’m not sure what payment methods they accept. You’ll be able to see for yourself on Aug 21st

[honest delta]

Okay thanks 🙂

[crude pilot]

Does the new rounds of Alpha 2 include base game or any other incentives?

[mint citrus]

No, just alpha 2 access. Though, there is no base game cost on release, just 15$ a month sub.

Note that Alpha 2 is scheduled to last "a long time".

[desert ivy]

"At least a year" according to Steven

https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/1eul724/holy_moly_the_amount_of_people_complaining_about/lilvlok/?context=3

While the alpha will run for at least over a year, and will eventually become the public test realm that will run concurrently with beta, we have to support server costs and cdn for users during that time.

[crystal beacon]

Will progress carry ober to full release?

[rustic portal]

as of now the info is that it will not carry over

as far as im aware

[desert ivy]

It will not. MMOs never carry progress from alpha/beta to release

[crystal beacon]

Thank you, does seem a bit disappointing if it’s to last for 1year+

But hey since i got it years ago i‘m happy im getting something to play 🙂

[rustic portal]

Well you cant think of it like other Alphas or Betas where we get presented with finished Games, this is an actual Alpha where we have a unfinished game where we give feedback on Bugs, Systems etc

[crystal beacon]

Right, and release is on the 25.october?

[rustic portal]

is the Plan until now as far as im aware

[crystal beacon]

Thats a very weird pick for release

Since this years CoD releases the same day

[rustic portal]

Well its not that big of a Crossover of playerbase, sure some will play the COD but the AoC Alpha 2 will run at minimum until May next year so its not that bad actually

[crystal beacon]

Might even be on purpose to slim the initial server load on day 1

[rustic portal]

i think they will limit the key ammount so its not gonna be that bad but yea could help

[crystal beacon]

Did we get any information on when the name reservation will begin?

[crystal beacon]

Well many people got the access already without considering the upcoming buyable ones i guess

[quick lion]

more likely while in betas

[crystal beacon]

Did they re-release the skins in the shop? When i click on shop i do see skins again, but i already have them

[nocturne stratus]

No they have not said when they will be bringing cosmetics back and in what form

[indigo fog]

I have a persistent alpha package from Kickstarter (2019), does that mean I will have access to phase 1 of alpha 2? or is that only for phase 3?

[desert ivy]

If you have an alpha package already then you'll have access to all the phases

[indigo fog]

Awesome, I was skimming the Q&A but did they say when that information was going to be sent out to those with the package?

[desert ivy]

Not that I recall. Sometime prior to October 25th of course but other than that we don't know exactly when you'll get an email yet

[indigo fog]

Okay thank you! One last thing, how do we get the roles in discord, customer support on the website?

[mint citrus]

https://discord.ashesofcreation.com to link your account

[indigo fog]

Thanks 😁

[crimson mountain]

by the way if my friend buys an alpha key when they become available again will he be able to participate in beta too?

[quick lion]

no, those keys are only for A2

[crimson mountain]

aw alright, thank you

[desert ivy]

Tbf Alpha is the long phase and the alpha servers remain up while Betas are ongoing

[mighty grail]

Will the lawless zones be for the alpha or is that a permanent feature?

[mint citrus]

Just for the alphas since we don't have the open seas.

[mighty grail]

ok awesome thanks, he didnt mention that in the stream, did he clarify here on discord

[mint citrus]

#aoc-discussion message

[mighty grail]

your'e the best! thanks

[light terrace]

can we get videos of duels in game plz devs?

[reef osprey]

you can get as many of those as you want starting on the 25th of October once the Alpha 2 starts

[jaunty jolt]

so now that A2 is li ke half the cost it was before can thoes of us that spent the 250 (minimum package to get A2 access) refund it and get the cheaper version? or get refunded the difference?

i play star citizen im used to getting handled for more money lol but this is a bit out of line.

[near stump]

Sadly, no. But you received much more than just A2 and you also get access sooner than everyone buying for $120.

[jaunty jolt]

dont want anything but A2

[mint citrus]

It would be outside of their standard refund period, but you can always put in a ticket to ask.

!cs

[potent thunder]

Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[near stump]

If you have financial hardship, they may work with you. But refund period is 90 days. You also have several months of subscription for when the game comes out so you’ll be saving a bunch of money then.

[jaunty jolt]

no hardship. its just the right thing for them to do.

[crystal beacon]

It's not the right thing for them to do. The package you bought is an acceptable value for all the package contains. If you didn't want all the extras of that package, you shouldn't have bought it.

If you'd bought only the Alpha access for that price, and now the Alpha is cheaper, then you have a case.

[mint citrus]

Its not worth debating in this channel, putting in a ticket is the only option right now and see what they say.

[jaunty jolt]

that was the cheapest package you could get to receive A2 access. which originally was supposed to be the ONLY way to get access. now its changed and they are offering it half the price. no one bought that package for the other stuff...1000% guarantee it. why screw you supporters who are willing spend on your game before you even deliver lol. its not a sound long term business plan.

[toxic smelt]

this is becoming a discussion

[crystal beacon]

Did they advertise it as being the only opportunity to buy access? I don't recall them stating at the time their won't be future opportunities.

[jaunty jolt]

right so stop commention on my post and let the company respond.

[spiral pine]

Intrepid wont respond to you here

[toxic smelt]

you will not get a response from staff in this channel

[near stump]

They don’t respond here

This is for community members and volunteer mods to help other community members.

[jaunty jolt]

rly.

[near stump]

Submit a CS ticket

!ca

!cs

[potent thunder]

Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[jaunty jolt]

yes, they said it was going away, they advertised "you better hurry up and get it since its going away on XX/XX/XXXX date." 100%

[spiral pine]

They didnt say they wouldnt offer any keys in the future

[hushed lotus]

They said the stop selling the packs with accecoirs etc. they mentioned that they may open other possibilitys in the future

[jaunty jolt]

they implied it in their posts. made entire advertising suggesting it.

[desert ivy]

https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order

They never said it was the final way to get A2 access
https://youtu.be/L5DeC8wIcuM?t=7358
"we may be opening up a2 access in a different form at some point closer to alpha 2"

[spiral pine]

Youve completely missunderstood

[jaunty jolt]

whats the date of that post? money says it was after the stopped selling the A2 packages

[desert ivy]

The post is from September 2023, as it says in the post title

[jaunty jolt]

so after

ok

[desert ivy]

No, they stopped selling in January 2024

https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-08-08-none-forgotten

Also said there in August 2023

[jaunty jolt]

ah ok i stand corrected there

[snow cypress]

this guy is professional troll and victim, your name says all

[jaunty jolt]

lol

na

[crystal beacon]

They also advertised a few timelines with release dates that passed us several years ago. People tried to demand refunds for their pre-purchase because of that. I don't know if any were successful though.

[jaunty jolt]

theres always the ol charge back. costs most companies more $ to fight it then to just let it go through uncontested. so we will see what they say

[dense crypt]

do we already know how many skill points we should have by lvl 25?

[desert ivy]

I don't think that's been confirmed

[silent obsidian]

This might be a stupid question and forgive me for asking but I just found out about this game today. Will it be able to run on a GTX 1050?

[sly monolith]

barely io thbink

[desert ivy]

It's below the current minimum requirements

By the time Ashes releases a 1050 will be over 10 years old

My opinion is no, a 1050 won't run Ashes

[silent obsidian]

Thanks for the quick and desisive response. Appreciate it.

[edgy raven]

have they clarified if the new alpha keys will include future beta access? Id love to believe there is no way a company would try to sell $120 keys to an alpha that is already broken into multiple parts, half of which has already past, and then also sell keys to multiple betas in the future. but with intrepid idk.

[toxic smelt]

alpha 2 runs alongside the betas

[mint citrus]

Does not include beta, only a2

[spiral pine]

Alpha-2 hasn't started yet

[alpine zodiac]

Is it still intended for skills to be upgradeable up to lvl 3?

[edgy raven]

wdym by that?

[toxic smelt]

you will be able to play alpha 2 while betas are online

they are seperate servers

alpha 2 doesnt go away when beta 1 starts

[spiral pine]

A2 transitions into PTR when the betas come around

[edgy raven]

thats strange. but thanks for the info. they are insane to sell alpha keys for 120 bucks and then probably sell beta keys as well later. but i guess we will see

[spiral pine]

You will still be able to play so it doesn't really matter

[toxic smelt]

it seems youre under the impression alpha key holders will be kicked out and need to buy beta keys to keep playing

[blazing warren]

Will $120 be considered a purchase of the game at release or will I have to buy something else?

[mint citrus]

On release the game will be 15$ a month

There is no game purchase price, no box cost

[blazing warren]

Oy cool 🙂

Thanks

[edgy raven]

i mean the way they have gone about breaking up the alpha and betas is confusing. so is the way theyve priced it, and the taking down keys and putting them back up later. so i hope you can understand. but maybe you can clarify it for me then, since you seem to know a lot about it

[edgy raven]

the alpha key holders will be playing alpha 2 on one server while the beta players will be playing beta 3 2 1 or whatever, on a separate server? with different content? or the same content?

[toxic smelt]

When the beta servers go online, the alpha 2 servers become PTRs for the beta servers essentially. You will still be able to play on A2 servers up until the day of launch

[worthy verge]

well first of all 100$ price for testing is kinda reasonable if u look it from peerspectivee of they alreeady have prob way more than 100k players soo if it was 20$ there would be million players that would play for maybe 10 hours its just extra uneeded work its still 100$ for prob 2 or even more years

[edgy raven]

ya i mean that clarifies it more but it still seems silly and over complicated to do this instead of just bringing back the pre order packs, if now they are able to handle more players. but i guess if they dont try to sell people multiple betas then it doesnt really matter. Thanks.

[edgy raven]

the conversation wasnt really about pricing. more so access in the future. i could go on a massive rant about their pricing but i wont except to say i dont think you can call any of the pricing reasonable. I think at this point the pricing needs to fall in line with what they have sold in the past, though, which it seems to. like you wouldnt want to sell a2 keys for 20 bucks when people already spent a lot of money before to get access

[near stump]

Please move discussion to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion This channel is for Q&A only

[dim oasis]

Will we be able to gift an alpha key to a friend? If so what would that look like?

[near stump]

Not unless you win a key through a giveaway. Only way to do what you're asking is give them a visa prepaid credit card with $ on it

[dim oasis]

Second question 🤣 : How do you be part of the giveaway to obtain keys?

[near stump]

There currently aren't any open. If they have any in the future they'll be announced on their website and in the #news channel.

They often do holiday giveaways by asking for creative responses to questions. They also do an annual fundraiser in November with key giveaways called Extra Life, so look out for that.

[dim oasis]

How do you get access to the channels you speak of? I do not see them

[near stump]

#read-me-first select a language

[mint citrus]

Refund policy is 90 days, but you can try to make a ticket.

!cs

[potent thunder]

Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[dark jungle]

the goal for alpha 2 is to be persistent. there is no alpha 3 or 4

[lusty kite]

Alpha 2 phase 3 is to be persistent

[near stump]

When you purchased Alpha 2, they never guaranteed it would be persistent on the store. Everything they say is subject to change.

You purchased Alpha 2 in whatever form they decide to release it

[sweet swallow]

I would like to ask if you plan to include CP (Combat Points) in the game, like in L2. It was a great feature that had connections to multiple aspects of the game and added value. And will there be more buffers/support classes in the game as well?

[toxic smelt]

There arent any plans for a systems like CP in ashes. There are possibilites for new classes post launch but no plans at this moment

[solid oasis]

a

[sweet swallow]

And regarding jumping in the game, do you plan to implement a stamina system for it? It seems silly that everyone will be jumping around like rabbits

[desert ivy]

No plan to tie jumping to stamina that we know of

[sweet swallow]

Where can I send ideas or feedback to the developers? Can I directly DM Steven on Discord, or is there a website where feedback is handled?

[fresh urchin]

the forums

[near stump]

Forums, not discord

[mortal fox]

is there a place to read what was asked and answered the other day on the ama

[sweet swallow]

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussions here, right ?

[desert ivy]

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/categories/aoc-general-discussion

[terse wave]

So will only people playing cleric and tank be able to choose a second archetype in phase 3 or will every class be able to choose however the options are limited to only picking cleric or tank?

[toxic smelt]

the second one

[terse wave]

Ah okay thx. It didn't seem to be clarified during the stream thx.

[dim oasis]

Question: If I would like to gift my twitch viewers a Alpha key, is my best option to create new Ashes of creation accounts to purchase them and give the account to the viewer? As the viewers are global it's hard to gift eftpos cards.

[desert ivy]

That's against ToS to do as it counts as account trading

There's no good or easy way to gift people A2 access beyond giving them the money

They're planning to open up a content creator program though. One of the things they potentially give you is keys to give to viewers if you get accepted

[twin holly]

purchasing a digital mastercard / visa card and giving that to them would be the easiest way atm however just need to trust em to use it on a key and not just spend it elsewhere

[storm ice]

is possible to buy a key atm ? can`t found any in the website.

[twin holly]

21st aug 11am pdt is when they come online

[covert zephyr]

@desert ivy lol?

[desert ivy]

The fucking modbot is garbage and autodeleted the post

[fleet kettle]

What happened?

[desert ivy]

Let me try it again

[covert zephyr]

he mass pinged 20 people

[desert ivy]

Tl;dr I @ed you guys because Steven just announced that the new alpha keys will now also include Beta access whereas that wasn't the case yesterday

https://www.reddit.com/r/AshesofCreation/comments/1euy7q1/clarifying_a2_keys_announcement/

And I saw you guys were asking about beta being included or not

[covert zephyr]

thats pretty cool

[fleet kettle]

Yooooo

Really really glad that was clarified

[eager bloom]

@desert ivy I really appreciate that my friend, I hadn’t seen that

[desert ivy]

Yeah glad you saw it, the modbot auto-deleted the message cause I @'d like 10 people

[vast crescent]

ill just randomly start posting this...

[near stump]

"Randomly" post it when someone asks a related question. Please don't just randomly post it in the questions channel unprompted.

[vast crescent]

ill do it once a day or something

[near stump]

That's not what this channel is for. Feel free to do that in a discussion channel.

[vast crescent]

you're having a discussion about it now which is way more than one message a day. once a day will not be a hinderance or distraction. its fine

[near stump]

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I'll let them tell you the same thing

[full merlin]

could you randomly post that image here once a day?

[tulip hatch]

Friends you know the rules
Lets move it along

[still wyvern]

This is a questions/answers channel and should not be used as a area to spam images unnecessarily.

If you want to discuss, you can do so via #general-discussion or #aoc-discussion

[full merlin]

so we can spam images when necessary ?

[still wyvern]

In the discussions channel. Necessarily. Not here.

[ruby swift]

Add images yes. Spam, no

[arctic scroll]

So question in the #questions channel, how does one get access to #discussion?? 😦

[desert ivy]

Pick English in the #read-me-first section

[arctic scroll]

NICE, thought I did that but gg

[sour jetty]

How do I connect the ashes account with discord?

[west meteor]

http://discord.ashesofcreation.com

[sour jetty]

thank you!

[digital haven]

Will it be possible to refund my alpha 2 package for store credit and just buy an alpha 2 key instead and use the remainder of the store credit for something else? Or did I end up paying double for alpha 2 access because I bought it earlier?

[near stump]

You can submit a CS ticket, but their policy is 90 day refunds. You didn’t pay double for alpha 2. You purchased a bunch of other things in your pack that supporters going forward won’t get.

[plush hawk]

you got gametime and cosmetics with your package too. It wasnt just the key

and embers

[digital haven]

Yeah but all I wanted was the key ):
I couldn't get the key without buying all that other crap I didn't care about

[near stump]

Feel free to submit a ticket. We can’t help you

!cs

[potent thunder]

Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[digital haven]

Thank you

[frigid helm]

Did we know which time the Server will Open every friday in Phase 1 ? Is it different for EU / US Server or will the Server Open sometime in the night (around 1-6am) cause they said (whole) friday-sunday

[desert ivy]

We dont know the time yet

Alpha 1 both EU and NA servers opened the same time

[frigid helm]

Thats a good hint - so Its very likely that eu Server will Not Open 1-6 am cause ITS Not friday in US then

[dense pike]

So i dont know if it was missed or not but i saw Tulnar release for Phase 3... DO WE have any information regarding design/ customization yet? i know there is ALOT for the tulnar to have done to it regarding horns/ tails/ armours so on so forth.

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Tulnar

Tulnar (pronounced Tull-nar) is a playable race in Ashes of Creation. The (ancestors of) the Tulnar fled to the Underrealm to escape the Corruption that befell Verra.
The Tulnar is a combination of four major races and many minor races that were left behind on Verra after the apocalypse.

They're a combination of the leftover races, not just the l...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Tulnar

[dense pike]

yeah i get all this but on the wiki it says they may add fish/ rat and others ia anything from tulnar fleshed out, reslly hoping Steven can answer this for me

[granite vigil]

Y'all think we'll be able to purchase cosmetics when we get access to Alpha 2 ?

[reef osprey]

@granite vigil

[severe cloud]

would expect more info on tulnar to be availabe after phase 2 starts and during phase 3

[granite vigil]

@reef osprey Thanks G

[dense pike]

I had a feeling of that as well, just wasnt sure if it was touched upon any further, cheers.

[winter verge]

I lot of ppl asking me if we will be able to refund this new Alpha-2 keys at all? Or how many days after A2 launch?

[spiral pine]

90 days refund still applies to the new keys

Now if you use the key aka log in to any A2 server you won't get a refund

[winter verge]

ok thanks, so You can buy key, wait for Content Creators to see how tests are going, watch some videos and decide if You like it or not without login in. And You can wait till January to refund with possibility to join in at any time till refund ends?

[vague plover]

It would be a good idea, to those who will be buying the alpha keys gets a discount on the next beta keys/game package. Its a good way of expressing your respect for your supporters!

[stable plover]

Intrepid is giving beta access to people who buy the A2 keys.

[vague plover]

I want to cry!

[thick berry]

How do I get discord privileges if I have one of the pre order packs?

[worthy verge]

there no such thing untill A2

[twin holly]

afaik there was only PI roles , alpha 1 roles and some new pre alpha two roles for those who are doing the spot testing for A2, any A2 roles that they might give havent been made yet, since A2 isnt under NDA prob wont be any new role

[thick berry]

Did you get a pre order pack? Because I only have it in my order history but never got any forum badges or discord updates or roles back when I bought it in April last year 🤔

[twin holly]

ive only got a voyager pack which would be A2 so i didnt get any roles, its mostly the kickstarter packs / the tiers that got A1 access that have roles setup

[worthy verge]

there will be extra
channels for A2 testers they said but not untill A2 hits

[thick berry]

Cool thanks for the replies

[summer lynx]

Does, can, or is Ashes planned to run on Linux?

[tender hearth]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Platforms

Ashes of Creation will be released on the Windows PC platform.

Console support may be added at a later point.
Native Linux support may be possible in future.
Q: Will the upgrade to UE5 affect the supported systems? A lot of people are like linux question mark.
A: It's something that we'll evaluate in the future. I haven't ruled it out necessarily...

Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Platforms

[mighty granite]

i imagine i can enter the alpha 2 because i have Intrepid Pre-Order Pack O.o right?

[spiral pine]

It has A2 access

You can check what your pack has in your account inventory on the website

[twin holly]

needs to be a voyager pack to get A2 access, anything lower than that you will have to upgrade to voyager

[winter verge]

Any info how long can we upgrade our Pre-Order Packs?

[spiral pine]

No new info atm

[twin holly]

no end date in sight but they did say they will let us know when they plan to end the ability to upgrade

[plucky saddle]

player houses can get raided right?

[young latch]

Instanced housing no, but freeholds and non instanced in node housing will with certain conditions

[plucky saddle]

whats instanced housing?

im reading in on animal husbandry and im just thinking all you have to do is wait for 1 player to max out animal hubsandry and make epic mounts then the entire server raids his house and all his stuff is gone

[young latch]

A mayor can set an in node housing to be instanced which means you have your own "map" that doesn't exist in the world map per se

[plucky saddle]

ah yeah but people like me dont become mayor:P

only streamers become mayors

[young latch]

You can only raid freeholds (where high level processing must occur)following a successful siege of the node it belongs to

[plucky saddle]

yeah so if you managed to beat them in a siege then you can loot the nr 1 of the realm with no consequence

[young latch]

You still have to break into said freehold, which will probably be guarded by a guild and you only have a certain amount of time (like a few hours or so) to even do it. Most people will probably be focused on looting the node vaults and not freeholds

[reef osprey]

Player Freeholds can only get raided AFTER your node has lost a siege, not just randomly like in games like Rust

[young latch]

But we can continue this discussion in #aoc-discussion if you want

[reef osprey]

or Ark

[young latch]

This channel is for questions only

[plucky saddle]

I did ask a question didnt i -_- god

[young latch]

Once you start with "I read that..." It becomes a discussion and not a question. #questions message

[plucky saddle]

allright

[mighty granite]

Intrepid Pre-Order is higer tier the voyager pack
https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026015874-What-is-included-with-my-Pre-Order-package

[vague thistle]

Does somebody understand the difference between these?

• water mount (release phase 1)
• aquatic mount (release phase 3)

[fresh urchin]

Steven didn't so no one else will, they'll clarify it in the post they're going to make

[twin holly]

imo aquatic would be a pokemon using surf allowing water travel and aquatic would be underwater exploration, but thats just my speculation

[fresh urchin]

you shouldnt speculate in this channel

[summer lynx]

Will it be possible to give someone else a key you purchased, or are they purchased for a specific account?

[fresh urchin]

purchased for the account, there's no codes that could be given

[twin holly]

best way to do so if you want to gift someone a key is buy a digital mastercard / visa gift card and send them the info for it to buy the key themselves

[wary olive]

is the article about the AMA out yet? And if yes, could someone share link please?

[whole dawn]

i dont believe it is yet

[soft magnet]

Hey guys can anyone help me, I had upgraded to Voyager plus (back in May 2021), and at the time it was $500 , looking at the wiki I cant tell if that means I get 9 or 12 months of play time given Voyager Plus was $375 on the wiki but the other packages are $500 say 12 months

Like I've previously said I don't keep up with things as my work is very busy and I can't tell where to view any perks when I login to the site (outside of the 19000 embers)

If anyone has a way to see your pre purchase perks that would be great, and appreciated

[teal monolith]

Steven said last night today or Monday it will be posted.

[wary olive]

Sweet, thanks!

[mint citrus]

You have an adventurer pre-order pack. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Adventurer_pre-order_pack

Its 11 months game time.

[soft magnet]

Are you sure ? My purchase history says Voyager upgrade to Voyager plus on the site ?

[tulip hatch]

If you upgraded to a 500 dollar package im assuming your pack also included Alpha 1 - you should be able to check what your package got you in your inventory on the ashes site

[soft magnet]

Yeah it did say it included Alpha 1 after the upgrade but the text says:

"Pre-Order Ember Upgrade Voyager to Voyager Plus"

[tulip hatch]

If it includes A1 it should be 12 month of game time

[soft magnet]

I know Voyager plus replaced the adventurer pack at some point , I was just wondering how much it'll cover play time wise, I don't keep on top of this stuff so it's my fault

[soft magnet]

Oh okay

[tulip hatch]

The packs went through a lot of changes if you want to be 100% certain Id ask support

[soft magnet]

Sounds good, it was throwing me off because yeah the packs went through a lot of changes and my inventory says both upgrade to Voyager plus and to adventurer and I was just confused a bit 😂

[tulip hatch]

Yeah timeframe wise it may be an adventure pack which means 11 months of game time

I say just ask support to clarify it for you

Yes once it officially launches

[spiral pine]

Yes

[obsidian ice]

No thank you

[prime grail]

What are the payment options for alpha 2? i was wondering if i can pay with: Ideal?

[thin canyon]

How many character can one account have?

[desert ivy]

Currently the payment options are Stripe, Paypal, and Xsolla.

[desert ivy]

Not confirmed yet. Last quote we have is "a comfortable amount" per server

[thin canyon]

Speaking of payment option

[prime grail]

Thanks!