Awesome thanks for clarifying!
#questions
near nacelle
dense pike
will the Alpha 2 key have OCE access? i need to know if we will have our own to test before i decide on getting the alpha/beta key
tribal oyster
oceania servers will come for beta or later not alpha unfortunately
polar berry
oceania servers will come for beta or later not alpha unfortunately
What about the European servers?
ancient egret
What about the European servers?
There will be EU servers
ruby swift
The plan is for multiple servers in NA and EU regions. How many has not been announced yet.
For testing.
hot sage
What was behind the decision for no OCE server for Alpha 2? Is there not enough alpha 2 key holders from OCE?
dark jungle
They have not told us why
spiral pine
There are no region locks atleast so you can test on NA or EU servers if you want to
severe cloud
im trying to find a dev/tech stream that was showcasing the tech of having many people in the same area or something similar but i can't find it. Not a stream with actual "finished" things and graphics but more of a tech demonstration. Anyone perhaps has any clue? I tried the wiki (https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Recent_livestreams_videos) but some livestreams don't have their title. I found some dev diaries
tender hearthBOT
spiral pine
should have some
lean marlin
im trying to find a dev/tech stream that was showcasing the tech of having many ...
27:41, it's not time stamped. https://youtu.be/HD5WKztW0S4
er actually around 29:26
severe cloud
27:41, it's not time stamped. https://youtu.be/HD5WKztW0S4
er actually around 29...
there was something similar not ingame but In UE or another software using rugdoll assets. thx anyway
near stump
Fall damage will be a thing iirc. Will you be able to use something like the ranger’s airstrike ability to prevent fall damage?
fresh urchin
Fall damage will be a thing iirc. Will you be able to use something like the ran...
we don't have an answer to this, but it's unlikely. In other games with similar skills you'll generally get a slight fall damage grace period, such as it not counting height until the end of the standard animation. But we don't know much about fall damage in AoC besides that when mounted mounts will take damage first like in Archeage
runic field
Hey, will there be another bundle release before the deadline for alpha 2 purchases arrive? I'm not sure if I buy this one or wait for another for different cosmetics
rigid rose
Hey, will there be another bundle release before the deadline for alpha 2 purcha...
No, this will be the bundle/packs up until then.
oblique wagon
valid vortex
I’m sure this question is asked a lot but just wanted clarification for my friend who’s thinking of pre-ordering, can you buy the cheaper pre-order and upgrade later to get access to the alpha 2?
desert ivy
I’m sure this question is asked a lot but just wanted clarification for my frien...
Yes
valid vortex
In my discord tag it’s says I’m a Voyager Plus, the question was for informing my friends who I’m trying to get to pre-order this game to play Alpha 2 with me. 
delicate wolf
In my discord tag it’s says I’m a Voyager Plus, the question was for informing m...
You can buy the cheaper pack and upgrade until the packs go off sale after the 17th of Jan.
sinful isle
You can buy the cheaper pack and upgrade until the packs go off sale after the 1...
So there never bringing back the packs after January 17th
near stump
They may sell testing keys in the future, but it isn't a guarentee
delicate wolf
sinful isle
Thank you im new to AoC I had heard of it years ago but had not looked in to it bc I didn't have the money to buy an key but now I might get one if I can... before the 17th
I hope
Hehe
near stump
Thank you im new to AoC I had heard of it years ago but had not looked in to it ...
You can upgrade your pack beyond the 17th if you want to pay in chunks.
sinful isle
https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/articles/21147624868883-Why-are-Pre...
OH i can get the 150 but the 250 would take me 2 months so save for if that right from what i read in that piece...
ty
and upgreade later
near stump
Yes, you can pay $150 now and $100 in 2 months
sinful isle
yes true perfect thank you
i get payed in two week and buy the 150 pack then get the upgrade pack
near stump
Just remember, you’re not buying a finished product. You’re contributing to their development and assisting with their testing process. There will be a lot of gaps in the game and downtime. They don’t want you to buy a pack expecting a polished game
sinful isle
oh yeah i have back kick starter and game before that didnt come out i get that and even games that came out and 6 months later closed down
ty
im so hyped👍
valid vortex
Okay sounds like my friends can buy the cheaper one if needed and upgrade later, thanks for the responce
sly tree
There are still hundreds of days until the testing time, is it too early to buy now
rancid cypress
There are still hundreds of days until the testing time, is it too early to buy ...
Never to early to buy, but can sometimes be too late 
spiral pine
well Alpha-2 sales are ending Jan 17th
fluid needle
while sales will end they may re-open them at a later date and may offer keys in future events like the annual charity stream
carmine mirage
Merry Christmas to you all.
near stump
Merry Christmas to you all.
Hello, please visit #read-me-first to gain access to the rest of the channels.
thin temple
hey so just to confirm, if i were to buy the wayfarer pre order pack now, will i be able to upgrade it to voyager plus after the 17th of january and get all the goodies from that pack?
spiral pine
Yes
raw lynx
anyone know if they plan to add the ability to turn into a vampire or werewolf in the game and gain an extra skill tree like in elder scrolls online? always liked that sort of thing you see
ruby swift
anyone know if they plan to add the ability to turn into a vampire or werewolf i...
There have been racial skins sold in the past. There are no plans for hidden or extra skill trees based on race from current info.
raw lynx
ah a shame would have been cool to have like vampire and werewolf fudes going on in cirtain areas at night and your character stumbling on one while on a quest and gets turned
next shell
Hi everyone, will the second closed alpha test be in the summer?
whole dawn
A2 is planned for q3, which is july - september. There will be spot tests before that that will be under NDA
next shell
A2 is planned for q3, which is july - september. There will be spot tests before...
thank you very much
I'm really looking forward to the second alpha.)
sly monolith
while playign ahses of creation and walking the forest... is it possible to shit in the forest? is there any animation of it?
i would like to shit in the forest sort of speak
whole dawn
no
solid rivet
Will AOC have Master loot? Unfortunately it often gets abused and gives reason to have large amounts of gold which BOTS will then be farming.
whole dawn
Will AOC have Master loot? Unfortunately it often gets abused and gives reason t...
There will be multiple loot options that can be set at a party or raid level
tender hearthBOT
whole dawn
halcyon bone
will we have oce servers at alpha 2?
desert ivy
OCE servers aren't due until Beta's last we heard
dark dirge
when will be the alpha 2 guys
modest maple
Hey! I have an interesting question I think. I'm a really big geography nerd. Will players have the ability to name regions in the game or natural landmarks, to empower an exploration minded player? Or will they already all be premade names?
dark jungle
they have said they will likely avoid letting players name nodes to avoid names like dicktopia and penisville. its natural to extrapolate this principle to larger geographic areas.
tender lake
Hey could anyone help with out. I am a little confused, I do own an Alpha 2 key, I able to help out during the spot test or am I only able to during the non NDA tests later next year?
vale pilot
Anyone having trouble logging into AOC site?
desert ivy
Hey could anyone help with out. I am a little confused, I do own an Alpha 2 key,...
There are different stages of spot testing. PI start testing first, then A1 backers, then A2 backers. Whatever stage A2 backers get invited to, so will you.
desert ivy
Anyone having trouble logging into AOC site?
Fine for me
vale pilot
Weird. I’ll wait a bit
tender lake
There are different stages of spot testing. PI start testing first, then A1 back...
Oh okay thank you for the info. I thought for a moment that it was like a random invite or lottery system.
delicate echo
There are different stages of spot testing. PI start testing first, then A1 back...
If i won A2 key giveaway i can still test before A2 yes?
desert ivy
Not sure
Keys won from giveaways function differently than normal packs usually, dunno how it works with regards to spot testing
near stump
If i won A2 key giveaway i can still test before A2 yes?
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stable plover
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You'll need an answer from Intrepid to know that.
near stump
:’(
tulip hatch
I believe with the way it currently works the answer is no ~ You can only participate when A2 becomes available
Spot testing before A2 will be for A1 testers
Unless Intrepid changes their previous statement this is how giveaway access works for A2 winners
sinful isle
Anyone having trouble logging into AOC site?
i got sgin in
undone basin
Are we able to obtain the cosmetics from previous packs or are those gone forever
vagrant relic
Gone forever.
vale pilot
i got sgin in
I got in. Merry Christmas to me lol
undone basin
Will there be another pack or is this the last one?
If theres another pack do we know whats going to be in that pack?
onyx knoll
The current one is the last pre-order pack
onyx knoll
In the future, there will be a cosmetics store, and they might still sell alpha 2 or beta access individually if they need more tester but pre-order packs will be gone after this one
undone basin
I see, thank you!
solid rivet
Just my two cents, but lootmaster leads to gdkp groups who spend large amounts of gold on drops. BOT farms love this.
vale pilot
Is node currency node type specific?
dark jungle
Yes
rigid rose
Just my two cents, but lootmaster leads to gdkp groups who spend large amounts o...
Hello friend! You need to go to the #read-me-first channel and pick language roles so you can see the rest of the discussion channels! ❤️
tulip sundial
An incentive to flag is to lose less items when you die. The incentives to go corrupted are to take another player's stuff, make them leave the dungeon you want to farm, or just because you don't like them and want them dead
tender hearthBOT
near stump
Your penalties are halved if you flag for pvp which includes the loss of raw gatherables
silent temple
The risk vs rewards applies to more PvP than just the open world corruption. You can attack peoples caravans without any penalties, and the ocean is also FFA without corruption.
remote hull
Where would you be able to view your life time subscription? I checked the inventory on the website, but I am not seeing it 🥲
desert ivy
As long as you have the Braver of Worlds or up pack you'll have it even if it's not in your inventory
remote hull
Thanks
frozen torrent
Is this current pre-order package the last package and will be available until Jan 17th?
desert ivy
Correct
They may resell Alpha 2/Beta access at a future date, and also may sell cosmetics separately in the future before launch, but this is the last "pre-order pack"
severe furnace
How much the game versions will cost ?
spiral pine
$15 a month
icy torrent
How much the game versions will cost ?
wdym by versions? afaik there are no versions once the game is out. it will have a 15 usd monthly fee. if you pay the 15 usd once, you can play for a month
currently there are different pre order pack versions that will end on january 17th
near stump
It’s just a language barrier it seems. Don’t look into it. The only price to play the game post launch is $15/month
sinful isle
It’s just a language barrier it seems. Don’t look into it. The only price to pla...
Thank you I didn't know that
jovial elbow
Merry Christmas to All!!!
sinful isle
Merry Christmas to All!!!
Merry xmas
daring spear
@idle siren Merry Christmas!
small sail
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays everyone!
Is Alpha 2 spot testing still happening/invites being sent out? If not, has an ETA for Alpha 2 been announced?
cloud cove
2024!
daring spear
Q3
small sail
Q3 of 2024? Not too bad. I can't believe it's been over 3 years since I bought a founder pack
small sail
Oh that's a useful command thanks
next shell
Will there be nda on alpha 2?)
next shell
because I wanted to make a video on the second alfa=)
tight oxide
is there going to be OCE servers for Alpha 2 ?
karmic snow
Last I heard, no.
ruby swift
is there going to be OCE servers for Alpha 2 ?
tight oxide
tyyy
ruby swift
SEA and OCE are often lumped together here in the same talking point. They did commission OCE servers for their APOC test years ago, but they were only up for a few days before they were shut down due to inactivity.
half zealot
Any infos about the performence without an highend pc?
tender hearthBOT
half zealot
Thank you my friend 🙏
spiral pine
Unfortunately quite outdated by now
icy torrent
bro, it says what sound card is required
it feels like it was outdated 10 years ago lol
azure vector
in the ranger live stream Steven said its a showcase of the archtype not class, whats the difference between an archtype and class?
brittle yarrow
in the ranger live stream Steven said its a showcase of the archtype not class, ...
class is archetype+archetype
icy torrent
in the ranger live stream Steven said its a showcase of the archtype not class, ...
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Classes#Classes_by_archetype_combination
y axis is the archetype, thats what you pick at the start of the game, those active abilities youll have
at areound level 25, youll pick another archetype, that will augment your active abilities based on what you picked and that will give you your class (the cross section in the table)
vague thistle
Cap lvl at 30 in A2 is supposed to be during whole the A2 or only as a cap for the launch of A2 ?
ancient egret
Cap lvl at 30 in A2 is supposed to be during whole the A2 or only as a cap for t...
35 but we dont know if it will change
vague thistle
Oh yes 35 correct, thanks
frozen torrent
I see in A1 a 1080 TI had about 50-60 FPS (according to Wiki). Has there been any discussion about how the performance being targeted for this type of card might've changed with the release of new cards e.g. the 4090 series etc?
Is the 1080 TI performance still likely to be what someone with that card could expect in A2?
I have a 3070 and my concern is whether or not that card will be enough for A2 through to official release - or if the minimum hardware will be pushed up as development continues.
full badger
I see in A1 a 1080 TI had about 50-60 FPS (according to Wiki). Has there been an...
Honestly we don't know. The A1 tests were done before the switch to Unreal Engine 5, so it's hard to tell what the performance will be like now. When A2 starts we'll have a much better idea of the performance and can update the requirements as needed.
toxic pecan
I see in A1 a 1080 TI had about 50-60 FPS (according to Wiki). Has there been an...
Brah....you are going to be just fine with 3070 , if you are not expecting 200 + fps on 4k monitor than you will be fine
frozen torrent
Brah....you are going to be just fine with 3070 , if you are not expecting 200 +...
I play at 1440p atm
toxic pecan
you will be fine 🙂
icy torrent
If you already have access to A2 then dont sweat it. A2 will last until the release, so even if the 3070 not enough, you have plenty of time to upgrade
desert ivy
One of the devs said on social media that they're aiming for 60fps on Ultra settings at 1440p on a 2070 GPU
toxic pecan
60 shouldnt be standard anymore
desert ivy
rotund prawn
If you already have access to A2 then dont sweat it. A2 will last until the rele...
Is going to be a wipe before lunch right?
icy torrent
The alpha 2 is totally different from the betas and the live game. The plan is to keep the A2 as PTR after the release
So in this sense there wont be a wipe or it doesnt matter since its totally different fromthe realgame and betas
If this makes sense
But yes, youll have to start over once the game launches
rotund prawn
Yeah im fine with it. Its like a learning period until full launch.
crystal beacon
Is going to be a wipe before lunch right?
There will be wipes constantly in Alpha-2, the Betas and prior to launch
limber anvil
Is going to be a wipe before lunch right?
The Alpha 2 Server will be the "Testserver" and the Open Release will be on New Servers.
The only what will be Transfered are the Skins and if u have Big Pack the Chose Name u safed.
ancient egret
The Alpha 2 Server will be the "Testserver" and the Open Release will be on New ...
? we wont get any skins from or during alpha 2
unless you are talking about the 1s you can buy now
rotund prawn
How many chars can you have in 1 account?
spiral pine
to be determined
crystal beacon
How many chars can you have in 1 account?
Official number hasn't been released yet but it's been said a "reasonable number" a few times now which most assume to be at least 8 (1 per primary archetype)
sinful isle
Brah....you are going to be just fine with 3070 , if you are not expecting 200 +...
i have a 1440P monitor too
limber anvil
? we wont get any skins from or during alpha 2
The Shop is running like now years before the Alpha start xD U can buy right now Skins and this skins u will never lose same for the Skins u buy in the Alpha 2 ingame shop xD
frozen torrent
This puts my mind at ease. I remember playing the Archeage Alpha on my trashy laptop >:D
ancient egret
The Shop is running like now years before the Alpha start xD U can buy right now...
you where suggesting that you can earn skins in alpha 2 and keep them that was my point
limber anvil
How many chars can you have in 1 account?
Actually this is not open to know but i guess its 1 of the Parts u can pay for like u can have 3 Chars or 6 if u buy for 10 euro per Slot extra slots
The only what is Announced i know is that u only can Join 1 Settlement per Account ( not per char PER ACCOUNT )
limber anvil
you where suggesting that you can earn skins in alpha 2 and keep them that was m...
im 100% sure about it if they start a Skin shop before game release they will make more skins
crystal beacon
Actually this is not open to know but i guess its 1 of the Parts u can pay for l...
With Stevens stance on P2W/QoL/PFC this will likely not exist
limber anvil
With Stevens stance on P2W/QoL/PFC this will likely not exist
its not P2W if u can buy more Char Slots...
crystal beacon
its not P2W if u can buy more Char Slots...
In a game where alts will be paramount for artisan professions it would lean heavily P2W but at the least it would be PFC/QoL
ancient egret
im 100% sure about it if they start a Skin shop before game release they will ma...
this is a place for questions if you wanna talk about personal opinions we can move to #aoc-discussion or #general-discussion
rigid rose
Character slots being a purchase type thing has not been indicated to be a thing in any way and has not been said to be a thing planned… currently they are planning to launch with a “comfortable” amount of character slots per server for a account. Please limit this channel to questions and answers and let’s leave speculation to the discussion channels. Thank you. ❤️
stable badger
Did they remove taming as a gathering profession?
desert ivy
No, it's now a part of the Hunting artisan class
compact dirge
What professions goes best with Archmage for most dps.
desert ivy
We don't know
compact dirge
We don't know
Thanks for the info
fast vortex
Hey guys,
I'm looking to buy one of the Pre-Order pack the AOC is selling (before they remove them) and I'd love to participate in Alpha 2 BUT the only way for me to participate in it would be with the Voyager or Voyager Plus right?
tranquil willow
Correct
spiral pine
Is the Alpha 2 like a loterry system for people?
No
fast vortex
oh so it's only people that got the special Pre-order pack then, gotcha
spiral pine
As long as you have an Alpha-2 key you can play
fast vortex
Gotcha, thank you for the help. Sorry last question. You said I can upgrade later. So if I get whatever edition will I have a portal or option to upgrade on my account?
frozen torrent
Gotcha, thank you for the help. Sorry last question. You said I can upgrade late...
It's my understanding the A2 preorder packages aren't going to be sold after Jan 17th (due to server space concerns) - but may be reintroduced in the future.
If you upgrade to an A2 preorder pack before then, you should be fine.
fast vortex
It's my understanding the A2 preorder packages aren't going to be sold after Jan...
which makes sense, awesome thank you guys for the help 🙂
spiral pine
you will be able to upgrade your pack after Jan 17th
frozen torrent
you will be able to upgrade your pack after Jan 17th
If you purchased a lower tier pack, and then wanted to upgrade to a pack that includes A2 access, is it confirmed as to whether or not that'll be possible after Jan 17th?
fast vortex
Gotcha, sorry couldn't find that info on there
trail bronze
Has a date for Alpha 2 been announced yet?
fast vortex
Has a date for Alpha 2 been announced yet?
Q3 2024
desert ivy
rotund prawn
I was chequing out the packs. The one usd375 has 9 month of playing time. This "time" starts running out when the final release after B2? Or it starts when A2 does?
icy torrent
im 99% sure its for the final game
theres no sub for alpha/beta
whole dawn
I was chequing out the packs. The one usd375 has 9 month of playing time. This "...
the game time is for release
not the testing phases
ruby swift
Sub time in packages does not start until official "live launch"
rotund prawn
thanks I think im going for it
sly monolith
going for that alpha 2 pack aswell....most money i spend on a game lol
chilly wren
is there somewhere on the page to see the cost of things and what they include? I bought a 500 dollar one a long time ago but don't remember what all came with it
desert ivy
If you bought a $500 pack then it will include alpha 2 and all the other phases
chilly wren
that I'm aware of, but I was wondering if anything else
desert ivy
if you wanna know exactly what your pack contained then you'll need to figure out what your pack is called by looking at your inventory on teh ashes website
then look up that pack on the wiki or something
icy torrent
the ashes website lists every item individually (that are included in the packs)
so check your inventory in the ashes site
compact dirge
Will there be ray tracing in AoC?
tender hearthBOT
No matching results. Try something else.
fierce wadi
will there be a directed spit emote? lol
azure vector
will there be a directed spit emote? lol
this is actually a deal breaker for me if there isnt
near stump
will there be a directed spit emote? lol
These are the emotes available during Alpha-1. We don't have much more info
mortal hull
Will alpha 2 have all the class combos available? (Obviously not finalized versions)
dark jungle
yes, sometime during alpha 2
red light
is there a dual spec options or are we just free to change our skills/talents when ever we feel like it?
dark jungle
there will be a way to quickly swap your gear/specs
red light
perfect ty
Does the ranger class have any type of deadzone or effect that stops them from shooting like being to close a target?
slim current
do referrals update instantly or take 24h?
near stump
do referrals update instantly or take 24h?
They should update almost immediately
slim current
They should update almost immediately
Odd a friend created an account using my code and then bought in. It doesnt show any indicator I have sucessfully referred a user
whole dawn
Does the ranger class have any type of deadzone or effect that stops them from s...
no, they mentioned in the recent stream that they found that mechanic to be unfun, so they removed it
however there might be some skills that gain additional effects if you are at a certain range
near stump
Odd a friend created an account using my code and then bought in. It doesnt show...
Did you check under Account -> Referrals on the website?
There is a "Total Referrals" section
red light
however there might be some skills that gain additional effects if you are at a ...
im super cool with that its exactly like you said unfun to not be able to use an ability but its a nice that certian abilities you will still want to be max range to get the most out of them good balance.
slim current
I referred one person a couple weeks ago and got "credit" for the sign up and no purchase. Today I referred with purchase and it didnt go from 1 > 2
near stump
I referred one person a couple weeks ago and got "credit" for the sign up and no...
Referral has to be done upon account creation. Your friend must not have successfully used your code. I had a friend fail to use my code correctly once too and he had to refund his purchase, delete his account using customer support, then make a new account.
slim current
Referral has to be done upon account creation. Your friend must not have success...
yeah im not sure what happened. I watched him do it
ctrl c, ctrl v
near stump
yeah im not sure what happened. I watched him do it
My friend said he clicked the link I sent him and it didn't work for him either. Might be a bug with their system, but there is nothing they can do to retroactively add the code. I'd suggest a CS ticket explaining the situation. Maybe they'll realize this issue is on their end.
!cs
potent thunderBOT
slim current
My friend said he clicked the link I sent him and it didn't work for him either....
made a ticket, no worries. Thank you!
faint granite
I got a free from the charity stream and I was just wondering what is included with that, like do I get everything in the voyager package? Also wondering if it also gives me early access to the full release the 2-3 days or whatever the alpha players get early
near stump
I got a free from the charity stream and I was just wondering what is included w...
You just get access to Alpha-2, not the rest of what's in the packs. And no early access.
It lists what you have on the AoC website on the inventory page
faint granite
Okay, thankyou!
obsidian kernel
real jolt
Lol so not coming out this decade like star Citizen got it 🤣
meager flare
Q3 what does that mean exacly ?
cursive creek
July-September most likely
near stump
Q3 what does that mean exacly ?
Q3 is quarter 3 of the year. So yes, sometime between July 1 and September 30
glacial vessel
Random question here if anyone knows.. I just bought the $250 pack and signed in the forum. I can't reply or post on any discussions. There isn't an button for it anywhere. Am I missing something?
near stump
Keep looking. It’s there. Buying that pack has nothing to do with forum permissions
Pencil in the bottom right for me on Google chrome on iPhone
@glacial vessel
ruby swift
Ashes is a complex game with several years of development quotes and ideas expressed. Hundred of hours of livestreams and interviews. So it would be a bit difficult to narrow your question down to something easily answerable, not going into pages. Luckily there is a well maintained wiki that has every utterance of import by the development team. Here is a link to get you started. Enjoy your data hunt. https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Economy
hybrid dragon
Here is a TL,DR
Certain mounts can take damage and die (source: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Mounts). Items have durability and if reaches 0, it will be significantly more expensive to repair (source: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Item_durability).
ruby swift
Mounts can be killed, they are not permanently removed, instead have a cooldown before resummoning. The only exceptions so far to this system are mounts "hatched" from looted eggs that can be T3. The cooldown can be reduced before resummoning by certain items and talents yet to be revealed. Gear indeed has durability, that is not mounts. I missed the / and just read mounts. Will edit to reflect that.
unkempt oracle
what nft do you need to own to play this? does it work like that?
mortal osprey
what nft do you need to own to play this? does it work like that?
? ashes of creation has nfts?
wtf
no way this is true, this guy is torlling
trolling*
unkempt oracle
oh i thought it was an nft game lol
mortal osprey
based
icy torrent
the nfts are so 2022
ruby wharf
All my apes gone
vague thistle
Hi, I wonder, what is deserved this slot for ? Will we be able to switch between 2 weapons during combat ?
whole dawn
Hi, I wonder, what is deserved this slot for ? Will we be able to switch between...
players have 1 main hand slot, 1 offhand slot, and 1 ranged slot
the red circle is the ranged slot
icy torrent
every class can use every weapon. so you can equip a bow as well
vague thistle
players have 1 main hand slot, 1 offhand slot, and 1 ranged slot
the red circle ...
Right, so rangers will be able to switch between LB and SB during fights ?
icy torrent
whats lb and sb?
vague thistle
short bow and long bow
whole dawn
Right, so rangers will be able to switch between LB and SB during fights ?
this is what we know of weapon swapping
vague thistle
Interesting, thanks for ur help
desert ivy
No. The next phase is alpha 2 which starts q3 2024
mossy fjord
ah, so the next time we can play is next September?
desert ivy
If you have an alpha 2 pack, somewhere between July and September. There'll be limited spot testing before that
mossy fjord
alright. Looks like a cool game can't wait to try and play.
icy torrent
ah, so the next time we can play is next September?
also another important thing is that the alpha 2 that starts next year q3 will be up until launch (with some downtime ofc)
lean karma
If yall played the arena battle royal they released way back when, the weapon swapping and combat was actually really good.
flat sluice
Does anyone know if they have mentioned how long the alpha 2 will last?🤔
tranquil willow
They said until launch, but we don't have a specific length
icy torrent
Does anyone know if they have mentioned how long the alpha 2 will last?🤔
as of now it will last until launch, but we dont know if the 30 lvl cap will last too
they are planning to make the alpha server into a PTR or test server after launch
so it will exist still
sinful isle
Now i just have to wait and sit...
icy torrent
ye
a year ago i got really hyped, but then calmed down
and now i pre ordered and got really hyped again lmao
sinful isle
i have not even got to pre-order yet but in 10 days i get paid so the time will come (im new to AoC)
and ive been telling all my friends and family.
icy torrent
ye ive told it to a couple of friends, but usually i wont say anything cause if you arent familiar with the mmo genre or AOC itself then its kind of pointless
sinful isle
oh yeah all my friend know MMO's now they dont all play but i can get them in to it for one month at lest... hehe
naive knot
So ye lot not get hit with "no no" hammers, best be takin' it to #general-discussion aye? Lets leave this place for Q&A
azure vector
do we know if the support classes like a bard would be able to defend themselves when out questing or would they need to have a group most of the time?
dark jungle
they have said that all classes will have a basic level of survivability for solo play up to a certain point
there will of course be PvP and PvE situations that you won't be able to handle as a solo player
spiral pine
in the future
midnight wagon
also when bard update/showcase
We know the January update video will be on a caravan PVP encounter so sometime after Jan. Exact month unknown.
shell void
This is assuming that they will showcase everything. They have said that there will be a lot that they do not showcase before Alpha 2 (element of surprise!). They have not said that they will showcase every archetype.
ashen snow
about player housing: I love the idea of having my own home within the world but a question that pops into my mind is what happens when I or another player STOPS playing the game? After a certain amount of time does my house/land get removed? thanks!
silent temple
about player housing: I love the idea of having my own home within the world but...
You accrue a debt and then after a time it defaults and other players can aquire/buy the freehold spot
ashen snow
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Housing_foreclosures
ahh thank you very much! and thanks for the wiki link too :)
silent temple
ahh thank you very much! and thanks for the wiki link too :)
You are most royally welcome!
mossy fjord
also another important thing is that the alpha 2 that starts next year q3 will b...
that's good to know
pine folio
Question. Will I be able to earn/Unlock raptor mounts in the game or was the 2018 pre order the only way to get the raptor skin for your mount.
rancid cypress
Question. Will I be able to earn/Unlock raptor mounts in the game or was the 201...
Through the animal husbandry system and taming there are alot of mounts to tame and many skin variations.
ancient egret
Question. Will I be able to earn/Unlock raptor mounts in the game or was the 201...
the specific mount you wont get anymore but there 100% will be other mounts close to it
pine folio
I hope so one of my greatest joys in an MMO is when I can earn Dinosaur related mounts and armor etc.
silent temple
I hope so one of my greatest joys in an MMO is when I can earn Dinosaur related ...
Oddly specific. Theres a wide variety of mounts and animals in and planned for the game. Good luck 😄
winter yarrow
Ya but dinosaurs are cool
restive folio
how to download ?
mint citrus
how to download ?
We are waiting for Alpha 2 release in quarter 3 of 2024, no way to play right now
restive folio
😔
mint citrus
Note, you will need a A2 package to be able to play. As of now sales of the A2 packages end January 17th.
icy iron
the EM you get from pre order, im assuming everything from alpha's and beta's will reset, does that include the EM if spent in the store during A2 and B1 & 2 or does the store purchase's get saved to the account?
desert ivy
Well if they allow you to use Embers during A2/Betas to buy cosmetics you'll still receive the cosmetics at launch, so no they won't be reset
icy iron
oh okey thank you :3
brisk geyser
Note, you will need a A2 package to be able to play. As of now sales of the A2 p...
Odd question but is there a specific time when theyll be taken down
mint citrus
Odd question but is there a specific time when theyll be taken down
January 17, 2024 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific
oak bridge
If I trigger an epic or legendary quest that nobody else has, can I share the quest with others? Or sell the quest to others?
tender hearthBOT
brisk geyser
Do we know when the “name reservations” will start or have they already started
desert ivy
No they haven't. They'll start sometime closer to launch
rugged locust
This is a question I’ve had since the dev update in November and maybe it’s been asked but:
Stephen mentioned that you’ll be able to wear gathering clothing over your armor and the armor would become invisible. He has also mentioned in the past how they want armor silhouettes to be visible from a distance to help you calculate your PvP chances. But if crafting clothing (presumably looking like clothes and not armor) can hide your actual armor, wouldn’t this create a meta where gankers just wear the most threadbare crafting clothes over their (let’s say) high level armor to get in close and gank people? Seems like it would make everyone wanting to gank or worried about being ganked wear basic artesian clothes to hide their threat level.
signal inlet
You will see an icon that displays what armor type someone is using. The main issue is cosmetics will be used to hide armor either way so letting you show gathering gear is no more of an issue than cosmetics in general.
haughty remnant
Hi what a game it looks like or is going to be, read there's 170 developers currently, learning code myself through mimo through the playstore, just coding from the phone, always something I've wanted to do as a progression of games have come out as they have, just wondered if beta is for everyone who has purchased the game been following development for a while, from what I've gathered this is a future progression of world of warcraft and is the future of the game just wondered if it will be so much greater might be worth knowing the mind behind it all and also if there's going to be different ways and the rewards for purchasing the game early as I'm sure it's been funded by quite alot of people, anyway just wondered as it's well deserved and also if it will make geforce now like wow and other mmos and the troubles caused thereof because it was up for a while and I'm sure people would be more than happy to pay a subscription to the service aswell as subscribing to the game just means I can play on the phone on the go if I can't make it to my pc/laptop/tablet
Well anyways hope everyone gets paid what there ode : - )
desert ivy
There are no plans for it to be on GeForceNow atm. It's not really similar to WoW at all. Takes inspiration from games like ArcheAge and Lineage 2 instead
The packs that include Beta on the Ashes of Creation website are Wayfarer pack (Beta 2) and Expeditionary pack (Beta 1 and 2)
haughty remnant
okay dokev
rigid rose
@haughty remnant Please select language roles in the #read-me-first channel to see the other channels. There are more places to be able to have discussions in those channels. ❤️
smoky sapphire
This is a question I’ve had since the dev update in November and maybe it’s been...
As Lash said : https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Threat_assessment
rugged locust
As Lash said : <https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Threat_assessment>
Thank you, Mew, this cleared it up for me! So much info in the Wiki. 😅
azure vector
with the unseen order cosmetic pack how is the gloves different from the costume? If I buy the costume alone will they not have the gloves or what?
sinful isle
I believe you have to buy the whole pack to get those cosmetics and they're not coming back on the store ever
Each individual pack gets a certain amount of the Cosmetics for that order
icy torrent
if you buy the most expensive pakc that has the full costume obviously.
if you buy for example the 250 usd one, that only has the gloves
- pets, etc
its listed on the site
sinful isle
with the unseen order cosmetic pack how is the gloves different from the costume...
I have I'm not sure if you noticed but packs are going away on January 17th and they will not be releasing anymore until release date they may be doing giveaways and other types of ways of getting into the game but packs are going away
azure vector
im asking cause i backed the game on KS and can buy each item individually. I don't want to buy the costume assuming the gloves are in it and find out later they're not when they're unavailable
sinful isle
That's a good question that is out of my league I do not know I was not in the kickstarter sorry you'll have to find someone that knows 😔
dapper chasm
Bad at explaining but im trying.
If u buy the costume, its a costume to change everything else optic-wise. Helmet, gloves, chest, shoes etc... costumes go on a cosmetic slot
While the gloves, if u buy them as accessory, go on the accossory-slot which just cover the explicit part - here the gloves -> arm/hands...so u could theoretically put them over ur normal armor to just change the visual of ur standard gloves to the unseen gloves.
vagrant dagger
i bought the alpha 2, is there somewhere to pre download the laucher or will i get an email for the download when its available?
icy torrent
probably youll get an email, ye
vague thistle
i bought the alpha 2, is there somewhere to pre download the laucher or will i g...
Yep we will received an e-mail
timid jewel
Wanted to ask, I shouldn't get in trouble if I make and buy accounts with alpha access for 2 friends on the same PC right?
vague thistle
I think u only need to create different account for each friend on AoC's website, isn't it?
dapper chasm
timid jewel
Well shit
quick pasture
Hi Guys. How long will People be able to buy the "Voyager Pre-Order Pack"? In the last Stream Steven mentioned a Date but i dont remember it. :/
desert ivy
Last chance to buy a pack is January 17th
However if you're worried about missing out on Alpha 2 or whatever, they'll most likely re-open Alpha/Beta sales at some point in the future, they say as much in their FAQ
They just want to make sure everything runs smoothly with the current testers first
quick pasture
@desert ivy Thank you for the Info. 🙂
mint citrus
You can also buy a cheaper package, and upgrade after Jan 17th.
sinful isle
I think u only need to create different account for each friend on AoC's website...
That's my plan
In the next 3 to 5 months I'll be saving to upgrade
If they keep it upgradable
wintry knoll
Question - Would people on Sanctus really know about Verra? Everything I've read, watched (Watched the Interview from 2018) that seems to strongly indicate that Verra is more or less a Myth / Legend on Sanctus. So I'm under the understanding that Verra isn't really known to us as Players as a Actual Place that exists until the portals open up but more as just a story like Avalon from King Arthur. Is that what everyone else is understanding too?
desert ivy
Iirc you're correct in that most people think Verra is just a fairy tale
Since it has been thousands of years since the apocalypse
wintry knoll
I figured it'd be like 'Folk Lore' and minimal for the Pyrain for example.
Passed on stories but nothing of substance.
rotund oar
Some people on Sanctus might possess heirlooms from their ancestry that are said to have been important in the past.
However, on Sanctus, where there is no magic, those heirlooms are nothing more than fancy baubles connected to stories that seem too weird to be real.
So, to most, Verra is like a fantasy story.
brisk geyser
You can also buy a cheaper package, and upgrade after Jan 17th.
so you can buy the cheapest pack then upgrade whenever? or is there a deadline for upgrades
ancient egret
so you can buy the cheapest pack then upgrade whenever? or is there a deadline f...
not any deadline that we know off
but that does not mean they wont stop it at some point
karmic snow
They did say we would be given plenty of warning before they remove the ability to upgrade.
brisk geyser
Wish we could’ve picked which set of packs we could’ve bought, not a big fan of the current cosmetics in shop
rancid cypress
Wish we could’ve picked which set of packs we could’ve bought, not a big fan of ...
some people who did get a choice still didn't choose.
brisk geyser
Smh really like one if the previous bundles and was gonna buy then it swapped lmao
pine folio
The only item I feel like I missed out on is the "Swift Claw" Raptor Mount from 2018. (I was Finally able preorder pledge this year, better late than never. Right?) — As long as there is a Variant that I can earn/tame/buy in game/store I won't feel so much Fomo.
And maybe other dinosaurs. 🦕 🦖👀
low lantern
so you can buy the cheapest pack then upgrade whenever? or is there a deadline f...
Edited for no confusion
delicate sparrow
Edited for no confusion
Here's an image I found where Talents talked about it in the Disc. You can still upgrade past 1/17
ancient egret
Edited for no confusion
any pack bought can be upgraded later
low lantern
Thanks, good to know
west mango
If i buy the Expeditonary Pre-Order Pack. today will i been able to upgrade to Voyager-Pre-Order Package after 17jan
dhoo gees the reply @low lantern counts for me to 🙂
azure vector
where will the bard stand in the trinity of heal, tank, dps? like he will be a support but i dont see him being a healer?
icy torrent
based on the class descriptions we know that the cleric is the primary healer, always
i cant recall if the bard can heal or not (maybe he cant) but he definitely can give other types of buffs to the team (i guess dps, maybe cc break, etc)
mint citrus
where will the bard stand in the trinity of heal, tank, dps? like he will be a s...
"Bard fills a non-healing support role that makes a party better as a whole through a range of buff-oriented and proximity based abilities."
mighty pier
Bard and Summoner fall into support roles.
icy torrent
based on the quote from steven the summoner is more of a hybrid
like they can spec for full dps or more support oriented
vague thistle
Yep and Steven also said that Summoner won't be able to be main tank for example
ruby swift
Please keep wants and theorycrafting in the other channels. Or did I miss a question?
icy torrent
someone said something incorrectly (as a response to a question)
i corrected them
then we sent 2 messages about this topic
im sure thats not excessive 🙂
so ye you missed a question
near stump
someone said something incorrectly (as a response to a question)
i corrected the...
I guess their point is that this channel is for known answers, not guesses or assumptions.
No worries though. Some people do a lot of just chatting in here so we send that reminder a lot
whole dawn
Im confused on the relationship between Scribes, Enchanting, and Over-Enchanting.
I see these quotes on the wiki:
Scrolls can be utilized by different professions to create enchantments relating to that profession. Enchantment scrolls can be sold on the open market.[2]
Enchanting is not an artisan profession in its own right. Scribes create scrolls that can be utilized by different professions to create enchantments relating to that profession.[2][4]
Vertical enchantments are a power progression for a crafted item. More damage or mitigations, added effects or bonuses.[6] Vertical enchantments include risks.[10]
Horizontal enchantments are more situational. For example: I'd like my sword to do force damage instead of holy damage because the monsters I tend to fight are incorporeal.[10]
So Scribes will be responsible for creating both the +1 enchantment type scrolls and the damage type enchantment scrolls?
fresh urchin
Im confused on the relationship between Scribes, Enchanting, and Over-Enchanting...
scribes create the scrolls, and then other professions use those scrolls to create the more specific enchantments, and those are the items that are used on the gear
mint citrus
scribes create the scrolls, and then other professions use those scrolls to crea...
This is what I assumed as well
mint citrus
Its probably more in depth than that though, otherwise scribing seems kind of one dimensional
whole dawn
scribings responsible for other things as well
fresh urchin
scribes likely do other things entirely
mint citrus
Yeah we'll have to see, lots of quotes around scribing are pretty dated
thick onyx
Is there any place where we can see what the next development update livestreams will be about?
desert ivy
January dev update is planned to be a large-scale caravan PvP showcase
We don't always know what the next stream will be ahead of time though
thick onyx
Ok thank you
icy torrent
if someone makes an account with my referral code
then I would get 15% of THEIR purchases back as embers?
the phrasing is not super clear to me, but this makes the most sense
whole dawn
if someone makes an account with my referral code
then I would get 15% of THEIR ...
yes
icy torrent
ty
digital haven
Has there been any update on if we'll be able to worship the evil gods? or are we forced to be good guys?
wanton lake
digital haven
Ugh so vague. Ty
vague thistle
Yes I was looking for the same thing earlier and there is no more information yet
spiral pine
The Others are basically the evil gods
near stump
yes
This is wrong, you get 15% back as intrepid bucks which is basically cash. Embers are game currency for skins.
near stump
if someone makes an account with my referral code
then I would get 15% of THEIR ...
No, see my message above
tender hearthBOT
timid jewel
So I made and an account for a friend and bought beta access, then learned that the account can be permanently banned for that. What should I do?
silent void
I know some of the backers will get early access before official launch day without the node system, but will they retain XP on the characters they have for that extra day when it is launched for the general public?
whole dawn
I know some of the backers will get early access before official launch day with...
This doesnt directly answer your question, but just fyi, headstart is only for specific servers. If you dont want to play on a headstart server you can just pick a different one
I believe they will retain XP
tender hearthBOT
rancid cypress
I know some of the backers will get early access before official launch day with...
Yes people with the 1 or 2 day headstart will retain their XP from that headstart
summer sinew
Hi, no live stream for this month’s update?
vague thistle
Hi, no live stream for this month’s update?
Hi, it was earlier, the ranger livestream
summer sinew
Oh I thought it was november update
vague thistle
Nop November was artisan livestream ☺️
So next will be in January : Pvp in caravan context
summer sinew
thank you!
vague thistle
Welcome
void knot
Do we know when in Jan t pvp caravan livestream will be?
vague thistle
Not yet, I guess end of January as usual
brisk geyser
we havent seen the rogue yet correct?
void knot
I believe we've onlyu seen the fighter, cleric, mage, and ranger.
tawdry forum
Are the Alpha 2 test phase packages still purchasable? I see they're available on the website.
karmic snow
Yes, until Jan 17th.
tawdry forum
Ah ok I thought they discontinued then due to having enough testers?
near stump
They are discontinuing them as of Jan 17th. They wanted to give everyone plenty of notice though.
They may sell them again in the future if they need or have capacity for more testers
meager yarrow
They may sell them again in the future if they need or have capacity for more te...
Fairly certain they said they already have thousands more than expected for A2 but I don’t have a quote
desert ivy
They do, but they have said they'll consider reopening A2 sales once they've made sure the game can handle the current testers
meager yarrow
At least it’ll be a real test for them. Lmao
desert ivy
In January they said they had over 100k A2 testers and originally expected around 30k~
meager yarrow
Do we have any updates on if summoner will be in A2 launch?
Last I remember Steven teased it
desert ivy
Earlier this month Steven said Summoner's may make it into A2 launch
meager yarrow
Ugh my emotions aren’t toys people!!!
brisk geyser
do we know classes that are potentially going to be in a2?
void knot
do we know classes that are potentially going to be in a2?
eventually all, we know the plan is to slowly introduce all systems in A2 until its feature complete. So if it doesn't start with alll classes, they will add them all eventually over time.
rotund oar
do we know classes that are potentially going to be in a2?
The archetypes expected to be present at the beginning of Alpha 2 are Bard, Cleric, Fighter, Mage, Ranger, Rogue, and Tank, along with some secondary classes and augments.
Summoner may also be released at the beginning of Alpha 2.
Secondary archetype selections to form classes will be released individually, rather than all at once.
brisk geyser
does ashes have any underwater type of content
ruby swift
Yes, was actually a stretch goal achieved during crowdfunding to expand it.
brisk geyser
also is there a video or discussion on how water content will work
ruby swift
brisk geyser
ty
keen glacier
I have a question in regards to the pre orders, I have bought the beta-1 and beta-2 package, after the 17th of January I have heard you wont be able to buy it any more but if you have bought it you will be able to upgrade, currently I can upgrade to a better package, but that currently to expensive, after the 17th will upgrades be that you can upgrade packages or upgrade releases (from betas to alpha-2), cuz I would like to only upgrade the release version and not the whole package
stray current
When you upgrade, you pay the difference in price of what you have vs. what package you are upgrading to.
keen glacier
Let me retype that question cuz it was confusing, after the 17th of January, can I upgrade just the release I get instead of having to get the whole package upgrade (I already own beta-1 and beta-2)
karmic snow
As I understand it, no. When you upgrade, you get everything new to that tier. So you can't just get the A2 access, you also need to get the new cosmetic and any additional game time or other bonuses associated with that level.
feral geyser
i'm sure this gets asked a lot but when will be the Alpha 2 roughly? or is that still TBD?
dark jungle
Q3 2024
feral geyser
thin plinth
Q3 of calendar or fiscal year?
dapper chasm
July-September...
near stump
Q3 of calendar or fiscal year?
FYI, fiscal year varies for different entities. It’s July - June for some, but can be different. US government fiscal year is October - September
thin plinth
FYI, fiscal year varies for different entities. It’s July - June for some, but c...
That doesn't stop companies from using fiscal years and assuming people know when it is 🙂
Hell my company uses fiscal and calendar quarters all the time and it confuses the hell out of us
near stump
When sharing non financial information with the public, companies use calendar year to avoid this confusion. To answer your question, Alpha-2 will be coming between July 1 and September 30, 2024
thin plinth
When sharing non financial information with the public, companies use calendar y...
That's not true at all. But ty for answering the question 🙂
Here is just one example.
flat lake
when is a2 lunch?
sleek stratus
Will the assassin be introduced during alpha 2 ?
icy torrent
they said they try to ship a2 with all the primary archetypes but no guarantee
that being said, since the alpha 2 will be persistent, sooner or alter they will add it
crystal beacon
is there a game or book series game is inspired by??
spiral pine
It's based on a Pathfinder campaign run by Steven
crystal beacon
It's based on a Pathfinder campaign run by Steven
damn cool
Also will there be gods, and related powers or buffs related to which god you worship
tender hearthBOT
mortal osprey
I was reading about durability in the ashes wiki. It says you lose it when you die and when over enchanting the weapon loses durability.
Just fighting and using spells and taking damage, does that reduce your durability or only when the things said here https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Item_durability happen will the the item decay?
dark jungle
they havent talked about losing durability through normal use, only on death or over enchanting
near stump
Do you lose durability from normal death or only when corrupted?
And durability can’t be repaired correct?
spiral pine
On death and can be repaired
velvet gorge
they havent talked about losing durability through normal use, only on death or ...
durability over enchanting triggers my BDO related PTSD. Enchantig in Ashes will be one-and-done kind of thing or persistent equipment upgrade system?
desert ivy
There's safe enchanting and over-enchanting. You can safely enchant to +5 for example, but then after that it's known as "over-enchanting" and carries risk of failing
tender hearthBOT
velvet gorge
There's safe enchanting and over-enchanting. You can safely enchant to +5 for ex...
From every dumb idea they could copy form BDO why this one?
desert ivy
Think it's more from Lineage2
velvet gorge
still, why take time to implement a system that's meant to manipulate user into spending money on upgrade materials, if we are making mmo with a monthly sub?
velvet gorge
i didn't even spend money on the game co'z its not out of alpha yet
I'd be glad to know weither that's a placeholder system or did they just not tought their desighn trough, as for now theyr desighn directions seem to lead in every possible direction away from each other.
If alpha 2 is in Q3 next year, how long will this game be developed before launch?
2-3 years?
desert ivy
We don't know. 2-3 years is my guess though
velvet gorge
Ill assume for now, its a placeholder system then.
thanks.
haughty mist
does this game have forced pvp? or shall i say, will it?
tulip hatch
While you can do your utmost to avoid PvP
Another player can always flag up to PK you if they so wish along with some penalties
tender hearthBOT
haughty mist
i see this here. does this mean.. if you die to mobs/pvp but not participate in the pvp.. you cant get looted at all and dont drop/loose anything
spiral pine
no it means you yourself wont get flagged as a combatant for looting other peoples bodies
haughty mist
so if i dont want to pvp and i run.. i can still just loose all my stuff?
haughty mist
aah a % of say, logs for example
spiral pine
yes
haughty mist
gotcha
this one for example. non combatants will llose 2/3% exp. so if its half the rate.. will that double for combatants?
spiral pine
you lose less for fighting back
spiral pine
yes
haughty mist
and corrupt suffer a 4x worse with chance to drop weapons and gear. gotcha
tulip hatch
Correct!
Ashes encourages mutual PvP by providing benefits to flagging up so death penalties are
100% for Non combatant
50% for Flagged
and increase for the corrupted players goes over 100% the more corrupted you are the more you have to lose
If you dont wish to PvP at all you can let your attacker kill you so they now become corrupted
brisk geyser
So the answer is find friends and run in groups;)
vale pilot
100% AOC is built on reliance and community. It’s woven into every system in the game
mortal osprey
they havent talked about losing durability through normal use, only on death or ...
I hope you don't lose durability if you don't die or overenchant
brisk geyser
For alpha 2 players will there be more opportunities to gain items in game thatll become exclusive during the playtest that will carry over to main launch
Or is it only the pre order items
rigid rose
For alpha 2 players will there be more opportunities to gain items in game thatl...
In game items acquired from in game during the A2 and other testing periods do not carry over to launch.
Items (cosmetics) that are purchased (items in the packs currently and in past) will.
Will be a fresh start for the servers at launch for in game
brisk geyser
Yea i meant cosmetic…will those be exclusive ?
rigid rose
Yea i meant cosmetic…will those be exclusive ?
Cosmetics that have been sold in the packs are exclusive and will not be sold again yes.
brisk geyser
Gotcha yea read it again and saw you said “packs” lol
Is there an info page on items that are able to be purchased in game
lean coral
sooooo this game coming out 2027 :(((((( SAGDE
????
fresh urchin
sooooo this game coming out 2027 :(((((( SAGDE
????
there's no release date for the game, the only date currently is alpha 2 is Q3 2024
brisk geyser
But alpha 2 last until launch right?…with some downage
desert ivy
Correct
tight oxide
Beta is going to run in parallel with alpha aswell
brisk geyser
What exactly does that mean
dark jungle
That alpha 2 servers will be separate from the beta servers
Both will run at the same time
brisk geyser
Will there be any difference between the two
dark jungle
yes. alpha 2 will be much earlier than the betas. the betas will start much closer to release.
brisk geyser
Well i meant as far as content wise
dark jungle
alpha 2 will likely have more experimental content and mechanics. the content in the betas will be much more polished
mighty pier
And the alpha 2 server will become the PTR server after launch.
iron ermine
do we know how big guild rosters will be?
rotund oar
do we know how big guild rosters will be?
Up to 300 Players. 
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guild_size
karmic snow
But that limit is assuming they take all the size increase perks, which means they won't be as powerful in other ways, correct?
rotund oar
Yes.
rancid cypress
Goto #read-me-first and pick a language so you can see the discussion channels 
limpid lynx
Anyone know what company intrepid was using for payments in late 2020 for pre order packs? My inventory on the site is empty and I'm looking for the receipt for my pack to file a support ticket but I'm having trouble finding it.
tribal oyster
xsolla
icy torrent
Idk if it has changed but my receipt came from intrepid studios. So if you search for that, it might show up (ofc they couldve changed it since then, just saying)
stable badger
Did they remove taming?
desert ivy
No, it's been bundled in to the "Hunting" artisan class
cosmic kite
Does anyone know if during A2 or the follow up from the 17th Jan, previous Pre-Order Cosmetics may be available for purchase? I've heard rumours they will be and that would be great but I'd like to confirm.
clear meadow
That is a shame for sure, there was a set a while ago I liked
glass vale
That is a shame for sure, there was a set a while ago I liked
same i wish i got the 2 tailed fire-ey fox mount skin 
and the robes that pack were really cool as well
dim robin
is there a certain way to sign up for alpha 2 test?
oblique lotus
is there a certain way to sign up for alpha 2 test?
250$
dim robin
so the Voyager Pre-order package on the website?
west meteor
so the Voyager Pre-order package on the website?
Correct
dim robin
big thanks!
sinful isle
Does a no-compatine player lose any gear or items if they die to a corrupted person I couldn't find a clear answer for that
karmic snow
No. Only corrupted players drop gear. Non-corrupted players will only drop a portion of their crafting materials, as well as mob trophies and the like, if I understand correctly.
near stump
The only thing to add is your gear will still take durability losses from that death
clear meadow
Has it always been like that or was it changed? I was always under the impression it was full loot pvp.
near stump
Has it always been like that or was it changed? I was always under the impressio...
It’s never been full loot
desert ivy
Ashes has never been full loot
clear meadow
It’s never been full loot
Good to know, I never really looked into things until recently. I just had my eye on it over the years.
sinful isle
Thnaks for the help
manic vine
Question is my account name going to be the name that my name reservation uses or do I get to choose it when the time comes
ashen niche
We get to keep the name through alpha 2 into full release right?
desert ivy
You don't reserve a name during alpha 2, so no
Once name reservations open, you'll pick a server to reserve your name on and your name will be reserved for that server specifically. If you're "Bob" on server A, someone else can still be "Bob" on server B
ashen niche
Ah
dusky kernel
Guys, will A2 last to the game officially release?
lean sun
I know that’s what I’ve heard but I don’t know where that info is coming from
desert ivy
Guys, will A2 last to the game officially release?
Yes
There'll be downtime every now and then, but overall A2 lasts until release, at which point it becomes the PTS
It even runs while the Beta's are running
vale pilot
Has there been any mention of a lore document? Like a book like Legends of Runeterra? I’d kinda like something like that I could read before launch.
stray current
They are holding on tight to the lore. We will have to learn that after launch.
lucid cipher
Will NPC's in AoC have a life? (Sleep, Walk to work, Eat, etc.) or will they be chained to their work stations to process our goods 24/7 ? #NPCrights.
sinful isle
Did AoC ever settle if they were going to have two mastery skills or not
lucid cipher
Did AoC ever settle if they were going to have two mastery skills or not
it was ALWAYS 2...
sinful isle
Thanks
vale pilot
Considering the importance of night cycle I would assume they are working all the time. But the players do a lot of the processing so I think those types of npcs will become obsolete at some point
lucid cipher
the only question was if they are in the same field
lucid cipher
Considering the importance of night cycle I would assume they are working all th...
there's this thing called the night shift... if you need more than 1 NPC.. you make 2 😉
vale pilot
there's this thing called the night shift... if you need more than 1 NPC.. you m...
Nah Verra is a right to work planet. We just grind our npcs into mindless nubs.
lucid cipher
Nah Verra is a right to work planet. We just grind our npcs into mindless nubs.
yeah, 24/7 npc's who never go home breaks emersion
vale pilot
I can’t say I ever cared about what happens with an NPC when I’m not around 🤣
lucid cipher
I can’t say I ever cared about what happens with an NPC when I’m not around 🤣
I didn't say I care what they were doing when I'm not there, I said nothing beats the emersion of Skyrim when NPC's close shop and go home, nothing beats the emersion of RedDead when NPC's head home to sleep, or to the bar for drinks. Every NEXT LEVEL game has NPC's who have a life and are not chained to their workstations. I hope it is at least on the Radar and set for an expansion (as long as the back end code is ready for the NPC's daily loop).
sinful isle
I didn't say I care what they were doing when I'm not there, I said nothing beat...
What happens if there was a quest you had to hand into somebody or something you had to do at a local crafting area would they go home too
lucid cipher
What happens if there was a quest you had to hand into somebody or something you...
ever play Skyrim?
sinful isle
ever play Skyrim?
Yes and Skyrim they close down their shops at certain hours
near stump
<@&256789677930053632>
vale pilot
😂🙄
rigid rose
Hello friends.. this is not the place to have conversations and discussions.,.. please move discussions to the correct channels such as the #aoc-discussion channel.
tulip hatch
This is a place for folks to ask questions related to Ashes of Creation~ if there is no known response we direct members to post their question in a future Q&A post in hopes it will get answered on the next Livestream
lucid cipher
OR if we already know the answer, can we still ask it, to draw attention to something we're interested in ??
onyx knoll
OR if we already know the answer, can we still ask it, to draw attention to some...
If you already know the answer then you're looking to discuss the topic which means it would be more appropriate in #aoc-discussion 😉
near stump
The forums is a great place to share ideas and feedback for devs to see
tulip hatch
Yes we understand sometimes questions lead to discussions that is where we gently remind folks to move down to the discussion channels to continue their discussion so this channel can remain tidy for the next questions that come up so they dont get lost among discussions.
rigid rose
Please move any further discussions on this topic to the appropriate channel.
clear meadow
Is there a discussion channel? Sorry, I'm not seeing one under the channels.
near stump
Go to #read-me-first to select your language to unlock them
clear meadow
Go to <#908174013346508870> to select your language to unlock them
Thank you!
tawdry forum
Are the prices on the website converted to regional prices or are they just USD?
clear meadow
I searched the forums and there isn't anything real recent about crafting, has anything been said about it lately? Like how many crafting skills we can have with gathering skills or are we limited to one and able to specialize/master it ?
tulip hatch
Are the prices on the website converted to regional prices or are they just USD?
I believe theyre just in USD when viewed on the site
tulip hatch
I searched the forums and there isn't anything real recent about crafting, has a...
They recently covered a crafting update in their developer update livestream
You can check out the wiki for anything we currently know about crafting
tender hearthBOT
clear meadow
They recently covered a crafting update in their developer update livestream
You...
awesome, thank you
tulip hatch
Youre welcome
fair vector
Is there a recent discussion from Steven on when the game will approximately be released after Beta 2?
worn wagon
Is there a recent discussion from Steven on when the game will approximately be ...
There is no announced release date. Alpha 2 is planned to start in Q3 2024 tho 
fair vector
- Has there been a number of professions that each character/alt can have? For example say you want to make a character that specializes in the crafting professions tree, will you be able to master 3 or 4 in that tree or do you need to make a 2nd alt for the additional mastering of skills because you can only master 1 or 2?
- Also will weapon smithing be broken down into specific weapon types specialization like there is in Mortal Online 2 or not?
- Is there a size specifications for the buildings that can be put on a freehold yet so we can figure out maximum number of things that can be squeezed onto it?
naive pivot
1. Has there been a number of professions that each character/alt can have? For...
I can answer number 1 for you:
1). You can find more about this question from their Alpha 2 Artisan Preview: https://youtu.be/W6dhCycYAJQ?si=rJoi-l8qy5ZS7jF2 Within the video they mention that there are 22 professions and players can be Novice in all 22 of them. From there it narrows down to Apprentice of 5 professions, Journeyman in 4, a Master in 3 and a Grandmaster in 2 professions.
fair vector
I can answer number 1 for you:
1). You can find more about this question from t...
Sweet, thank you!😁😁😁
thick fjord
1. Has there been a number of professions that each character/alt can have? For...
From the Node Showcase a few months ago, they showed how different nodes can build artisan buildings that focus on specific armor/weapon types. The weapons were broken down into slashing, bludgeoning, and piercing. So at the very least we know that those 3 melee weapon types will have their own smithy as you go deeper into the craft. Whether Weaponsmithing itself let's you specialize is unknown AFAIK
tender hearthBOT
vast crescent
Do we have any more recent data on A2 map size? The wiki states estimated 220km^2 - is that old or taking in account with the updated 1200km^2 world size? I thought, iirc, A2 was going to be approx 25% of Launch map.
near stump
Do we have any more recent data on A2 map size? The wiki states estimated 220km^...
“Zones are expected to be around 60-70% complete before they are ready for Alpha-2.[15]
Riverlands, Badlands, Sandsquall Desert, Tropics, Forest, Tabletop mountains, Tundra, Ocean.[15]”
“The eastern continent may not be included until later in Alpha-2.[16]”
Wiki states 1200
And alpha 2 will end with the full map so zones will be added as the alpha progresses
vast crescent
I also read those statements from the wiki as well which confused me from previous statements in the past. So I was also under the impression that the map will grow throughout A2, i guess their original size statement was for "start" of A2.
near stump
The wiki has YouTube video references you can go back and listen to if you want to see exactly what they say
dark jungle
we dont know details about that yet. we only have limited info on offhands
tender hearthBOT
dark jungle
two handed weapons and dual wield weapons have specific advantages, combat passives, and combos. there will be a non-trivial tradeoff between those and say using an offhand focus.
ruby swift
Lex is the wiki. If he reinforces what is on his own site, you can bet nothing else has been said about it.
analog needle
Jan 17th is last day to get alpha key right?
ruby swift
Yep, I think by 11am their time.
heavy lagoon
So the Ashes site says I've linked my Discord account, but I'm still not getting the roles? I logged out and back in on the AoC site, AoC forums, and Discord, but still can't get it to work. Any suggestions?
ruby swift
Had it been a long while since your account was active. It used to be it could take up to 24 hours for those roles to update.
heavy lagoon
Yeah, all my accounts been around a while
ruby swift
No idea. I would tell you to ping a mod, but they gonna tell you the same. If it doesn't clear up in a few hours, then file a CS ticket. Realize if you left Discord and came back, legacy titles are not granted. The only roles you would be getting are A1 if you have that package level, so you could see the spot testing channels.
heavy lagoon
Yeah, on the forums I can get into the archived A1 posts but nothing here
ruby swift
I would give it a couple hours and then file CS. They back in office today, so probably a backlog for them to work through from the holidays, so may take a minute.
heavy lagoon
Thanks!
rotund prawn
Is there some kind of storage within the node or your own freehold to keep your stuff safe from rides?
tender hearthBOT
rigid rose
So the Ashes site says I've linked my Discord account, but I'm still not getting...
Would attempt on a other browser.. make sure to sign out of the AoC website as well as Discord and sign back in before attempting to re-link. If this does not work yes you would want to check with CS.
!CS
potent thunderBOT
near stump
If a node is destroyed via siege, what is lost from storage? All raw materials?
ruby swift
If a node is destroyed via siege, what is lost from storage? All raw materials?
A portion of processed and gathered materials are sunk. The rest go into a big pile that people get to fight over for a week and loot to carry off. Including those that lost.
near stump
I wonder what that big pile of gatherables will look like. Thank you.
ruby swift
fair vector
From the Node Showcase a few months ago, they showed how different nodes can bui...
Thank you for the response.😁
That's a bit crazy to have separate smithy for each melee weapon type. I could understand separate smithy for ranged, magic and melee.
dark jungle
Thank you for the response.😁
That's a bit crazy to have separate smithy for eac...
The smithy is a single building. Within that building there will be specialist crafting workstations for different weapon types.
Think of it as a real world workshop with different machine tools for different products
slate topaz
Is it Q3 yet?
ancient egret
fair vector
The smithy is a single building. Within that building there will be specialist c...
I wonder if there'll be a limit to the number of workstations on a smithy.🤔
dark jungle
I wonder if there'll be a limit to the number of workstations on a smithy.🤔
since they are physical placements within the building there is likely to be a limit. also each profession has i believe has up to 4 allowed workstations
karmic snow
Is it Q3 yet?
Almost. Only 2.9 more Q to go.
dark jungle
the info we know is on the wiki
tender hearthBOT
fair vector
Thank you for the help 😁
manic vine
I know we can still buy cosmetics after the Jan 17th but does that only include people that bought pre order packs or will anyone be able to buy the cosmetics after the cut off
desert ivy
The current cosmetics on the store will only be buyable for people that already have a pack
digital sonnet
Including future ones after cut off?
Hey XenophobiX! The Unseen Order is the final Pre-Order pack.
We won't be doing Pre-Order packs after this one. While we may provide cosmetic items and merchandise in the shop at a future date, Pre-Order packs are done after The Unseen Order. Pre-Order Packs are scheduled to end at <t:1705518000:F>
If you have more questions about this, check out the FAQ at the bottom of The Unseen Order article here: https://ashesofcreation.com/news/2023-09-12-the-unseen-order
manic vine
Hey XenophobiX! The Unseen Order is the final Pre-Order pack.
We won't be doin...
Will the cosmetic items in the shop only be purchasable by pack owners or anyone?
digital sonnet
Will the cosmetic items in the shop only be purchasable by pack owners or anyone...
Anything we do with the Shop in the future won't be related to Pre-Order packs.
silver mulch
Has any of the specific guild level up options been released?
digital sonnet
Has any of the specific guild level up options been released?
If you want to see what's been shared regarding guild progression, what we've shared on this topic is in the wiki here: https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guilds#Guild_progression
fair vector
Do the cosmetic skins cover all alts on an account or only 1 character per account?
rancid cypress
Do the cosmetic skins cover all alts on an account or only 1 character per accou...
Cosmetics are transferable between characters on the same account. You do have to choose which character you want to use them on. (at least currently)
fair vector
I'm guessing that animal taming got eliminated or combined into animal husbandry?
tender hearthBOT
iron ermine
whats the next livestream going to be about? is that info out?
karmic snow
I believe it is Caravan PvP events.
iron ermine
ok i had heard about the mage and tank getting another update. But i think that you are right about that. I remember hearing that somewhere
faint plover
Good Morning!
I have question regarding referal link.
"receive 15% of any ongoing account purchases back as Intrepid Bucks!"
This 15% bonus is just for person who send link or for both?
vague thistle
Hi, only for the person who send the link
faint plover
Hi, only for the person who send the link
thank you!
vague thistle
Welcome
half zealot
any news about the next monthly livestream topic?
bronze umbra
can any mod help me?
mint citrus
can any mod help me?
What is it regarding?
worn wagon
can any mod help me?
feel free to DM any of us
shell void
@bronze umbra The community here is really good about answering questions accurately according to what is known, and if it is wrong info given it is quickly corrected.
bronze umbra
I wanted to ask if there was any way in recovering the random assortment of letters and numbers that we were given when first setting up 2FA
tulip hatch
Not sure on that, will ask
If you need help accessing your account at this time you can submit a support ticket
subtle hemlock
I wanted to ask if there was any way in recovering the random assortment of lett...
Submit a ticket. Switched phones myself and couldnt access my account they will just need the receipt purchase you last made and they will be able to help you. took less then a day to get back into mine
heavy lagoon
Is there a chance any of the mods could help me with getting my roles set in Discord? I have my Discord and AoC accounts linked, and have for a while. But I cannot seem to get the roles and access to the A1 chats.
@worn wagon @tulip hatch
tulip hatch
Hiya~ sure lets take this to DM
heavy lagoon
Sure thing!
brave wolf
Is there a chance any of the mods could help me with getting my roles set in Dis...
There are so many channels I didn’t even know there was an alpha 1 channel
And I still don’t 🤭
heavy lagoon
I may have misread the info, but I thought I saw there was something about a news and updates Discord channel for A1 folks
spiral pine
there is
dry zodiac
Hello, long time lurker first time poster. I know on the post about the pre-order packages ending that there would be consideration for other giveaways or ways of buying into alpha/bets testing, has there been any thing discussed or decided on that front? Cosmetics are cool but I'd honestly pay close to the amount of the later pre-order packages for just game time and early access, I'm genuinely itching to play lol
near stump
Hello, long time lurker first time poster. I know on the post about the pre-orde...
If they do end up selling Alpha-2 access in the future, they’ve said it wouldn’t be any cheaper than $150 as selling it for less would be disrespectful to Kickstarter backers. There are always giveaways on the annual extra life stream in November. But since they’re miles past their goal for A2 testers, I wouldn’t count on them going out of their way to get more testers once the packs come off the shop on Jan 17th.
dry zodiac
Yeah I would easily pay that much for alpha 2 access lol, anything that that came with that would be bonus. I wanted to buy a pre-order pack pretty much every month for the last 2 years but could never make it work financially, if there was literally one more month of pre-order packs I finally would
near stump
You can purchase the cheapest one now and upgrade beyond the Jan 17th date to make it easier
dry zodiac
near stump
Upgrades will be available for at least a few more months and they’ll give plenty of notice when those will be coming down too
dry zodiac
I didn't even know you could upgrade! I would done this literally years ago
dry zodiac
some FIRE pre-order cosmetics I missed out on L
near stump
Luckily skins in game will be on par if not cooler than the ones available for purchase according to Steven
dry zodiac
Oh I'm sure, there was just a few that had peak vibes for me but I'm sure I'll find something nice before I reach end game
gritty pike
Could someone help me please, Im trying to log in on the forum, however when I do so it says: Before proceeding, please set your contact email address in your Profile settings.
But in profile settings there is no way to add a contact email address.
in the tab profile settings I have set display name and then profile information including my email but thats it.
tulip hatch
Taking this to DMs
quaint crater
heard of changes to artisan skill masteries and that you can have 2 grandmaster skills and 3 master skills, does that mean you can have 2 grandmaster and 3 different master skills, or that of the 3 master skills 2 of those can reach grandmaster?
desert ivy
The latter
So if you have Grandmaster - Mining and animal husbandry, that means 2 of the 3 Master skills are also mining and animal husbandry
quaint crater
gotcha, thank you
iron ermine
Is there a chance any of the mods could help me with getting my roles set in Dis...
would there happen to also be an A2 chat?
main rampart
Would a mod be able to tell me if there is any kind of a media pack available for YouTube content creators that would include the logo for thumbnails etc?
tulip hatch
There was one once upon a time before the content creator revamp
Not sure if we can share that old one though
iron ermine
will mounts have traversal abilities like gw2 has?
desert ivy
Mounts have their own abilities that can be changed based on factors like animal husbandry breeding and stuff
heavy lagoon
would there happen to also be an A2 chat?
I don't think there is one as of now. But I could foresee one opening up to discuss those playing A2 under NDA.
I could be wrong though, since my roles are messed up and I can't see any of the hidden channels lol
iron ermine
will environments need to be traversed using mount abilities in certain areas? I feel like it would give more meaning to breeding mounts a certain way
desert ivy
There aren't any A2 chats yet, no
iron ermine
yeah if there is an A1 chat it would seem like A2 would eventually come
main rampart
There was one once upon a time before the content creator revamp
Not sure if we ...
I applied to the program but is there a way to apply for anything there may be now?
tulip hatch
I applied to the program but is there a way to apply for anything there may be n...
No, if youve already applied thats all you can do at the moment
I can DM you with some logos
main rampart
No, if youve already applied thats all you can do at the moment
I can DM you wit...
Ah yeah that would be perfect.
iron ermine
Will preorder packs continue without A2 access even after the 17th
tender hearthBOT
wispy ruin
is there a way to reserve name atm or do you have to wait for alpha 2 to go live ?^^
desert ivy
Name reservations haven't started yet. They'll start sometime closer to launch
wispy ruin
Name reservations haven't started yet. They'll start sometime closer to launch
ty! make sense now that i think about it xD
iron ermine
ty! make sense now that i think about it xD
Gonna be Zeldo huh? lol
limpid fable
Hello, i purchased the Voyager per-order pack couple days ago, was wondering if i could get some help with getting my discord roles and stuff?
ruby swift
From your tag, you seem to have all your roles. There are no special roles for those with A2 access.
limpid fable
ahh easy done then my friend, cheers
craggy shoal
Are there going to be servers for the a2 test in Japan?
desert ivy
Only servers that we know A2 will have are EU and NA
ruby swift
Are there going to be servers for the a2 test in Japan?
No, but I have participated in previous testing with Intrepid going back to A0. There are no issues really. Choose NA west coast. Avoid OCE/SEA servers if available. The ping is usually worse.
Oh, and I am in Japan too.
heavy lagoon
Weird that west coast works better than OCE/SEA
craggy shoal
No, but I have participated in previous testing with Intrepid going back to A0. ...
Ok thanks 👍
rancid cypress
No, but I have participated in previous testing with Intrepid going back to A0. ...
You can't avoid me forever 
primal talon
So here is a question brought up by a coworker. What happens with major griefers that cause the destructions of nodes for nothing more than pure malicious intent? He may have not fully understood it but I said I would ask
desert ivy
You have to declare a node siege on a node in order to destroy it. It is planned to cost just as much resources to declare a siege on a node as it did to build the node up to that stage in the first place. It's not a cheap or easy thing to do.
But also, it's not griefing to destroy a node 
You can't just walk up to a node at 4am with a bunch of people and start destroying the node, it's not a survival game like Rust or Ark
near stump
So here is a question brought up by a coworker. What happens with major griefers...
A single person would never be able to do this alone either
@desert ivy What can a mayor do to hinder a node?
If someone wins the mayorship and is part of a group that wants the node gone, how can they advance their interest?
desert ivy
Set the node taxes high af so it's not optimal for people to stay there, refuse to intiate buy orders so the node doesn't have resources to use on upgrades and creating buildings, not initiating commissions
not upgrading defences
etc.
not proposing any node policies
quite a few things they can do
near stump
So the mayor cannot destroy things?
To build a new building in its place for example, but in this case, they wouldn’t
desert ivy
I can't remember exactly, but I think players have to basically vote on if buildings within the node get destroyed, would need to look at the wiki for it to remember 
primal talon
A single person would never be able to do this alone either
Agreed. However a group of assholes is certainly possible. I have seen it in a bunch of games
near stump
Agreed. However a group of assholes is certainly possible. I have seen it in a b...
Good thing it is a designed game mechanic to be able to destroy a node then
primal talon
In one of the games I used to play there was a group that had almost a thousand members. Likely a bunch of multi accounts. But they would swarm areas so bad it would lock out others from coming. Take over the areas by making a ton of max level guilds. Their goal was literally just locking non members out of a lot of areas and destroying anything others had or controlled. Took years to finally wipe them out and destroy their hold
meager yarrow
So as I understand it world bosses can be triggered that will effect the area like a frost dragon that keeps an area of the map in winter. Are there any planned mechanics for say the local node to defend a world boss instead of trying to kill them? Say they want the bonus to ice spells and to farm winter crops year round? Stuff like that.
left token
Hi everyone! I just joined the Discord! Can't wait for Alpha 2 later this year!
tulip hatch
Welcome
You can use the #general-discussion and #aoc-discussion to chat with the community members!
tulip hatch
So as I understand it world bosses can be triggered that will effect the area li...
That hasnt been mentioned before but you can ask the next time a Livestream Q&A post is up on the forums
iron ermine
it doesn't seem like enough is finished for all of the systems to be in place for A2. Are we just not seeing everything that is being done?
desert ivy
The core systems are in at the start of A2. Not all.
iron ermine
ok. so each system is going to be litterally at "lite stage" of their cycle
desert ivy
E.g. the node system will be in, but it won't be all the way to Metropolis nodes. The naval system will be in to some degree (e.g. caravans can sail), but you won't be riding Galleons with 40 crew members shooting other galleons.
A2 is planned to be a long testing phase, not just a month or 2.
iron ermine
ok nice I see. I was wondering because I notice on wiki a lot of things that they said will be present at start of a2 but we are seeing them not there yet. But they do seem to make steady progress with each system each month
iron ermine
A2 is planned to be a long testing phase, not just a month or 2.
gotcha. ok makes sense. A2 will run as long as it has to
I have had little doubts about the progress with this game due to trusting the intrepid team, but a twitch streamer put a little doubt in my mind with something they had said about that
but doubt is cleared back up lol
sweet heart
Just setup 2FA on my account, after logging in again everything worked fine but I got an email from the forums that I have been unbanned. Never have been banned there. Maybe something wrong with the single sign on workflow?
spiral pine
It's a bug you can safely ignore
sweet heart
I assue so but still worth investigating for the web team. If that was my website I would not want things like that to happen to my users
spiral pine
They know about it
iron ermine
naval combat wont be available at a2 launch. correct?
glass vale
it will be in the betas for sure
iron ermine
lookin foward to it
tender wren
beta are suppost to be shorter, and close the launch, most of dev time will be in alpha 2, thats the plan anyway
visual locust
naval combat wont be available at a2 launch. correct?
It will most likely be added during alpha 2 at some point, alpha 2 will have plenty of updates during its duration.
icy torrent
do we know if we are able to sell the ships we create/craft?
iron ermine
Awesome!
ancient egret
do we know if we are able to sell the ships we create/craft?
while they have not outright said you can, i would be very very surprised if you cant
icy torrent
i tried to log into the forums and it says "Before proceeding, please set your contact email address in your Profile Settings"
However i do have an email address, i even bought a pack. sooo whats up with that?
worn wagon
i tried to log into the forums and it says "Before proceeding, please set your c...
Please try these steps: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/54949/error-signing-into-forums-contact-email
icy torrent
yup, that worked, ty!
unique monolith
Waiting for the new livestream forum post for questions but was wondering: Will the arena be publicly viewable though? Like will it be a large building?
We know that it will be instanced as of 2020, but we were wondering how the spectating will occur
opaque pebble
Hi gang, Anyone have a map connecting each Artisian Profession to the ones they most likely effect? Like lines connecting Mining to Metalworking & Stonemasonry and onto Armor Smithing and Weapon Smithing. Wondering how connected they all are, like will Fishing, Gerbalism, Hunting & Lumberjacking all feed into Farming for example. Thanks in advance, I did look through the Artisian Classes wiki and couldn't spot anything like that.
hybrid dragon
Hi gang, Anyone have a map connecting each Artisian Profession to the ones they ...
Long story short: if it's not on wiki, we don't know. All we can do is guess, and go by the common conventions (like mining -> blacksmithing), but it's all assumptions. This question would be a great one for a livestream though.
opaque pebble
Yeh fairo just too early to say 🙂
hybrid dragon
Yeh fairo just too early to say 🙂
What we do know is that there are 3 groups of professions (gathering, processing, crafting), and processing stations will require fuel. For instance, you will need woodchips as fuel in order to smelt metal ingots. Fuel itself can come in different qualities and can be substituted. So if you are looking for a simple map, it will be more like a tangled web 🙂 https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Fuels
opaque pebble
Nice this is interesting, can’t wait to go deeper on this
dark dirge
when will be the next live stream
mint citrus
when will be the next live stream
We haven't heard yet, but usually around the last Friday of the month.
dark dirge
@mint citrus nice thx mate
neon flare
Hello everyone. Just signed on recently. Being as I'm too lazy to search the archives, does anyone know if AoC players will incur a vitae penalty if their character dies in combat; or something similar? At which point they would need to work off to be back to full strength.
tender hearthBOT
neon flare
Thanks Jummi.
dapper chasm
Np :3
iron ermine
seems like hunting and animal husbandry are almost necessary to both be grandmaster if you want to benefit fully in your breeding. Does this seem true?
final urchin
Hello, i just bought the $375 preorder and i see where you can buy the individual pieces from the bundle now, so i have a couple questions.
1: Will they still be releasing cosmetic packs after they take down the alpha 2 predorders this month?
2: Will i be able to buy the cosmetics individually from those bundles as well?
3: If someone buys a smaller preorder pack will they still have access to buy the same cosmetics i have from the bundles (ex. Would someone who bougth the $75 bundle still be able to individually purchase the character skins that come with the $375)
near stump
seems like hunting and animal husbandry are almost necessary to both be grandmas...
We don’t have much regarding in depth analysis on professions to answer this. We likely won’t know this until we’re into Alpha 2
hybrid dragon
Hello, i just bought the $375 preorder and i see where you can buy the individua...
- no, this is the last pack, 2. no (see above) 3. upgrade is possible later, if you buy a bit prior to Jan 17
near stump
Hello, i just bought the $375 preorder and i see where you can buy the individua...
- You can’t buy any skins from the $375 pack individually unless you purchased a $375 pack in a prior month
You’d only be able to buy skins at the $75 level if a $75 pack was purchased prior to this month. So the only way to obtain all the skins from this pack would be by purchasing or upgrading to the $375 pack
desert ivy
They might release cosmetics in the future though, just outside of the pack system
feral geyser
I can't wait to no-life this game tbh
dapper chasm
@feral geyser Go to #read-me-first to select language-roles to unlock the other channels.
iron ermine
Will we be able to use blood magic and just take on corruption after using it illegally?
odd locust
As far as I can tell from the Wiki, there is no permanent player housing. Any housing that you build can be destroyed, and your stuff taken (apart from some maybe very specific items). So is this just encouraging us just to put all of our wealth in the currencies (e.g. gold) which presumably doesn't live in physical form in containers?
manic vine
Hello, i just bought the $375 preorder and i see where you can buy the individua...
- They did say they will be releasing cosmetics packs after the 17th just cosmetics though
manic vine
As far as I can tell from the Wiki, there is no permanent player housing. Any ho...
I thought they said freeholds are permanent per say and if that city gets raided and dropped a tier then you lose X amount of resources but it’s not like someone can just walk up and go through all your loot you have stored
dapper chasm
odd locust
I thought they said freeholds are permanent per say and if that city gets raided...
This indicates otherwise (maybe)?
clever wigeon
As far as I can tell from the Wiki, there is no permanent player housing. Any ho...
One of the design pillars is based upon players having options for managing risk versus reward. Selling items for gold greatly reduces risk, but the value of that gold may change due to inflation later in the game. I don't believe they are necessarily pushing to convert everything to gold but rather giving people options for managing risk of losing items in a variety of ways.
manic vine
@odd locust this, it says materials and resources idk if that means like grafted gear and jewels and such, but ofcourse I could be wrong
We have so much time to find out still
odd locust
Ok, this kind of makes sense. There are various kinds of housing, each with different benefits and security (reward & risk). But ultimately they can all be lost (with varying effort required to achieve this). At present, perhaps the only "safe" harbour of wealth is gold/currency, with ultimate safety, but with the risk of loss of value.
shell void
seems like hunting and animal husbandry are almost necessary to both be grandmas...
@iron ermine We do not know enough about the layout of the professions to know if this is the case or not.
iron ermine
Ok I just heard them talk about blood magic usage in the carphin vid
shell void
Some magics are not able to be used by players. Blood magic is one of those. I'll find the link... Sec
iron ermine
Ok just an enemy practice. Gotcha
tender hearthBOT
shell void
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Blood_magic
Nevermind, looks possible depending on what you choose.
Lol, Lex got it first. Ty
teal junco
will alpha players get a head start on betas and launch?
spiral pine
No
rancid cypress
will alpha players get a head start on betas and launch?
the only people who get a headstart are kickstarters
teal junco
😭
visual locust
will alpha players get a head start on betas and launch?
The only way they would get a "head start" is that they might have more game knowledge because they have been playing for a while already. But there wont be a head start for alpha 2 players in a way that they can start the game earlier or get some sort of boost.
teal junco
mmm that's fair ig
azure vector
Im on the AOC wiki and see that ship building isnt in the artisan classes page. Was shipbuilding removed as an artisan class?
pliant dock
Im on the AOC wiki and see that ship building isnt in the artisan classes page. ...
Ship building won't be a profession. Everyone will have access to build them. They will just need mats and the recipes
But they will only be accessible in harbor nodes
ancient egret
Ship building won't be a profession. Everyone will have access to build them. ...
not fully correct the parts you need will be split among the other professions that will make them so anybody with the parts can do it but 1 person wont be able to make a ship
glass vale
just buy the parts and make it 
pliant dock
not fully correct the parts you need will be split among the other professions t...
FYI "mats" referring to parts to build it, I didn't specify where you get them from.
Large ships will be a community project or guild project.
hybrid dragon
FYI "mats" referring to parts to build it, I didn't specify where you get them f...
They are crafted by various professions, that much we do know.
pliant dock
Right. Again, just join a guild or make a lot of friends. Or find a way to make lots of money and buy the parts. Or trade for some of them ect.
cerulean tangle
what are the 6 main religions? I cannot find in the wiki.
mighty pier
We don't know all of them yet. But there's 7 good Gods and then The Others that are the 3 that gave the Ancients their power and got banished.
rancid cypress
what are the 6 main religions? I cannot find in the wiki.
The main religion is money 
final briar
Hmm we do like money
fair vector
The only way they would get a "head start" is that they might have more game kno...
Awhile back I saw that the "headstart" was that the kickstarters got to start playing 2 days ahead of everyone else, that may have changed though because it kind of is P2W.
desert ivy
It hasn't changed. Headstart is only available on a single server per region though so people can just not roll on the headstart server
thick fjord
Awhile back I saw that the "headstart" was that the kickstarters got to start pl...
Hasn't changed, just clearly labelled. Won't stop completely new ppl from rolling on it though, but can't walk back a kickstarter pledge so rip
near stump
Those servers have many features locked for the first 2 days as well btw so you can’t progress nodes, and some other stuff
iron ermine
will seasons smoothly transition into the new seasons? or will we just get a BAM, new season
tender hearthBOT
mint citrus
will seasons smoothly transition into the new seasons? or will we just get a BAM...
They demonstrated this live in a showcase like 1.5 years ago if you want to see what they had back then.
iron ermine
youre right. my bad. i forgot that it explained transitioning
desert ivy
There is no download, the game isn't out
brisk geyser
lol if you somehow find a download link let us all know brother lmfao
steep marlin
thanks.
sonic mist
Am i reading right that alpha 2 will run until launch?
clever wigeon
Am i reading right that alpha 2 will run until launch?
Yes
sonic mist
Oh wow that is pretty cool
odd locust
Just understand that alpha is for testing, and all your stuff will be deleted (multiple times) without mercy 😄
sonic mist
Oh yes i understand that part i just thought that it would be like a 2 week testing phase i might actually spend the money for a key now that i know it will go till launch
iron ermine
of course new things will be added all the time. hope that doesnt wear us all out before launch
not the adding thing
the fact that we keep getting wiped
I think this game will be so good that we will never get bored. Not even copium man
sonic mist
I think that there will be plenty to keep me busy
iron ermine
no doubt homeslice
sonic mist
Thanks for letting me know all! Thats Awesome news
sonic mist
Cmon Q3!
sonic mist
Im gonna have to start scrolling through guild recruitment now xD
sonic mist
Yes east coast
iron ermine
nice. Well pick what you want of course but Axiom is a good one.
sonic mist
Alright thanks ill check it out
odd locust
Better use #aoc-discussion for general discussion.
iron ermine
do you think playing alpha 2 will ruin the full release for us
severe hill
do you think playing alpha 2 will ruin the full release for us
I guess it depends how much you play and how long it goes for 😜
iron ermine
well I have no self control so......
severe hill
Theyre certainly not going to rush this game so ide just take my time, learn as much as possible and enjoy the process of helping build the game.. it looks like they'll be plenty to do once all the systems are fine tuned and implemented
hushed lotus
do you think playing alpha 2 will ruin the full release for us
Also rather see it as „testing“ alpha2 and not playing it.
Ofcourse the longer its running the more systems and mechanics get added which you can freely choose to do but they also tell us to test specific things.
Overall as far as I know they will hide enough content/lore etc. for the release so you are not completely burnt out
iron ermine
I'll be testing it, but I'll be playing it too. I think this game will be so good we will never wanna stop anyways
warm remnant
It looks amazing. I really can't wait to see summoner gameplay and how it interacts with other archetypes, both as main and subtype.
I'm considering paying for testing, but if I do I feel like I gotta go all the way and get the best possible bundle despite the cost, and I can't decide if it's worth.
cerulean tangle
Will this game have dynamic hair and beard growth, with barber shop and racial/cultural hairstyles?
half zealot
Will this game have dynamic hair and beard growth, with barber shop and racial/c...
This would be funny 😅👌
ancient egret
Will this game have dynamic hair and beard growth, with barber shop and racial/c...
as far as we know there wont be any hair growth but there will be barber shops and racial/cultural hairstyles
ruby swift
Will this game have dynamic hair and beard growth, with barber shop and racial/c...
Was asked and answered in a livestream. No.
It will have barbershops
icy torrent
I'm considering paying for testing, but if I do I feel like I gotta go all the w...
thats up to you...imo its not worth it, cause what the 375 usd kit has compared to the 250 usd kit is the skin
which is cool, but im not a fan of skins in general, so...ye
rancid cypress
thats up to you...imo its not worth it, cause what the 375 usd kit has compared ...
extra skins, more game time, more ingame credits, name reservation.
icy torrent
extra skins, more game time, more ingame credits, name reservation.
ye, you can buy more ingame time and more ingame credits once the game is out
since you dont get a discount on them in the pre order pack, so it shouldnt matter
and everyone themself should decide if the skins and name reservation is worth it for them
imo the 250$ pack is great cause if you substract the game time and ingame credits, you pay 60 usd for the skins AND for the alpha and beta keys
warm remnant
thats up to you...imo its not worth it, cause what the 375 usd kit has compared ...
I'm actually a major fan of skins and cosmetics, cause I like dressing up my character.
I don't particularly care for the name reservation cause I always use weird names that are almost guaranteed not to be taken by bastardizing and mashing up latin and greek.
The in game credit don't really matter to me cause I normally never purchase or use in game credit anyways. I have some in ESO that I still haven't touched despite starting years ago.
The extra game time is nice, cause it'll save me at least some time on paying a subscription.
I think Imma go for it, it'll just take awhile of saving. I also gotta save to upgrade my computer, but there's plenty of time till alpha 2 releases.
icy torrent
I'm actually a major fan of skins and cosmetics, cause I like dressing up my cha...
you say you are a major fan of skins then say you dont care about ingame credit (which is used to buy skins), so im a little confused
icy torrent
I think Imma go for it, it'll just take awhile of saving. I also gotta save to u...
anyways, if you wish you can just buy the cheapest pre order pack before january 17th, and then later you can upgrade to a bigger pack
if thats better for you financially
intrepid said they will give plenty of notice before people wont be able to upgrade their packs, so it shouldnt cause a problem
crimson stream
Btw how does name reservation work?
Will it be tied to a particular region?
Like, I might be moving from EU to US soon, will my name reservation be tied to EU?
vagrant relic
Will it be tied to a particular region?
It's tied to your account. Meaning you're the only one with access to use that name.
icy torrent
Btw how does name reservation work?
from the wiki
"Accounts will have name reservation tokens, that entitle its holder to reserve a name on a specific server when the reservation time comes."
based on this, if you pick a EU server, and then move to US, then kinda fucked
crimson stream
from the wiki
"Accounts will have name reservation tokens, that entitle its hold...
I see, so it is tied to a specific server
crimson stream
based on this, if you pick a EU server, and then move to US, then kinda fucked
Yeah...
rancid cypress
Btw how does name reservation work?
you get to reserve 1 name on 1 server (names are unique to the server), first come first served and it's done in order of backers. so kickstarters get to pick names, then the intrepid packs, then adventurers and finally voyagers based on when they bought their pack
vagrant relic
If you use it before changing, then yes. Don't start on EU if you plan to play US?
crimson stream
We shall see I guess
By the way, what stops people from trying to grab several character names on launch?
icy torrent
wdym? if youre a backer or pre ordered, etc, you get 1 name reservation token
if you wanna use that to reserve idk Asmongold, then nothing stops that i guess
rancid cypress
By the way, what stops people from trying to grab several character names on lau...
if you just mean regular people snatching names at launch theres absolutely nothing stopping them. which is part of why name reservation tokens exist.
if you want to be sure you get a name then it's better to have one. if you're using a name noone would use then you don't need to feel pressured
warm remnant
you say you are a major fan of skins then say you dont care about ingame credit ...
I'm a fan of skins and cosmetics, not so much microtransactions. I prefer being able to grind or trade, or even loot them when possible instead of buying special currency and then using that to buy them. It's part of the reason I don't like Overwatch's predatory skin system.
warm remnant
anyways, if you wish you can just buy the cheapest pre order pack before january...
That's a relief. I might go with that, since then I can prioritize the computer upgrade, and then take my time with upgrading my pack.
icy torrent
I'm a fan of skins and cosmetics, not so much microtransactions. I prefer being ...
oh gotcha, kinda the same. i got 10k ingame currency so i migth spend it on a skin once the game is out, but usually i prefer (in these types of games) to just use the armors real look that i have, and dont put any skin over it.
but this is a discussion for the discussion thread so ima stfu lol
crimson stream
I'm a fan of skins and cosmetics, not so much microtransactions. I prefer being ...
Yup, not a fan for paying for skins
ruby swift
By the way, what stops people from trying to grab several character names on lau...
There will be character creation "throttles" on launch. That means you will be limited in the number of characters you can create on multiple servers. This stops glut and Intrepid from getting false totals of players active on servers.
The developers intend to carefully manage server populations via the use of character creation throttles to avoid the need to merge servers.[40][42]
steep marlin
when ashes of creation will be able for download?
west meteor
when ashes of creation will be able for download?
Alpha testing starts in Q3 of this year - you have to buy a $250 supporter pack to access it that testing phase.
Beta tests will go after and I think the buy in for those is $75 but I’m not sure.
Launch will be after betas and that will just require a $15/monty subscription. We don’t know how long testing in alpha and beta will take, but AoC probably won’t be launching for another year and a half at the absolute earliest, more than likely a couple years we’ll see launch
icy torrent
Alpha testing starts in Q3 of this year - you have to buy a $250 supporter pack ...
the 250$ pack will get you into the alpha and the betas as well
iron ermine
I'm considering paying for testing, but if I do I feel like I gotta go all the w...
Just get the alpha 2 bundle then upgrade it later
iron ermine
It looks amazing. I really can't wait to see summoner gameplay and how it intera...
I hope that they make it very different. I hope they go with summons drain mana instead of timed summons. Would be different. Haven’t seen it done myself
near stump
Just get the alpha 2 bundle then upgrade it later
I’m assuming you meant Beta 2
iron ermine
Nah I meant the 250 and upgrade to the 375
dense elbow
so whats approximated release date i figured end of 2024 ?
spiral pine
There is no official approximate release date
desert ivy
so whats approximated release date i figured end of 2024 ?
No, it's not gonna release in 2024
Alpha 2 is scheduled for Q3 2024 and is going to be a very long testing phase
dense elbow
ah so prob end of 2025 tbh
desert ivy
dense elbow
we still got 2 betas
desert ivy
I wouldn't put my money on 2025 either. A large amount of content will be missing from A2.
A2 isn't just a 3 month testing phase
dense elbow
really thats wild they will prob move it further than 2026 then off the posibility of es6 gta6 dlc and who knows what other major titles release
ill assume 2028
shell void
@warm remnant @iron ermine The summons will exist until they are killed, unsummoned, another summon exceeding the allowed number of summons is summoned, or the player logs out.
west meteor
really thats wild they will prob move it further than 2026 then off the posibili...
Doubt it - they will launch when they are ready.