na-arena-of-words

[flat furnace]

Where pink suit piano guy?

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-comment-above-fact-facts-facts-meme-gif-2124243457389189191

[rough silo]

@feral hollow

[flat furnace]

Oh snap are we about to get a classic geeee haiku?

[viral wagon]

haiku is japanese. he'll give us Jian'an poetry

[earnest canopy]

i dont think this surprises anyone lol

[grim oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-gif-5787388

[wicked bone]

https://tenor.com/view/night-king-winter-is-here-got-game-of-thrones-white-walker-gif-9059668

[grim oracle]

Pretty sure it's still summer in the game

[cyan violet]

Propaganda isn’t really used against your enemies, it’s used against your own to keep them in group/circle/crew.

[fervent hound]

@warped mural Good job on the piratesoftware crashout

[grim oracle]

Aww what I miss?

[lilac harness]

do we have a clip of it?

[rough silo]

Streamer drama? 👀

[bitter salmon]

Well stop teasing us

[rough silo]

Yea man, whats with all this edging.

[bitter salmon]

I am stuck at work and have to do some bullshit corpo training. Gimme a chuckle

[bitter salmon]

Thats a weak crashout

[fervent hound]

nah thats the aftermath when he learn hes a dumbass

[keen zenith]

embarassing to post as a GM.

[bitter salmon]

Guess I'll have to dig up the clip later.

[fast tusk]

fuck you, made me rewind a boring ass stream thinking there would be actual content.

Just PvP dodgers bullying a guild that shares 65 iq points between them all

[drifting herald]

did yall know he used to work at blizzard

[grim oracle]

😂 he didn't learn there is now a toggle PVP keybind option? Or that with the new system the modifier key made the hold to PVP bind stick

[sick oar]

@feral hollow is back?

[pulsar shard]

@feral hollow IF YOU COME BACK BE READY TO FACE THE WRATH OF 100 MILLION PURPLE SOLDIERS, I WILL CRUSH YOUR LITTLE CHINESE SKULL

[oblique fossil]

Who's the cutie? You? Or is that Emily Blunt

[drifting herald]

Yea it’s me

[oblique fossil]

Damn aura got the baddies

[drifting herald]

Had to fire the makeup guy, now he works for polar doing clown makeup !

https://tenor.com/view/take-that-margot-robbie-harley-quinn-bat-gif-13429900

[south wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[inner prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-catch-a-lil-motion-catch-motion-caught-motion-get-a-lil-motion-gif-9039708211727597253

[rough silo]

You know zybak, you look a lil like azmongold.

[sudden cargo]

https://medal.tv/games/ashes-of-creation/clips/lOag0XkMrkT9a8ntq?invite=cr-MSxBYk8sMzM4NjU5NzQ0&v=136

why does thunder rage type to me about this clip losing 16v8

[novel turret]

[viral wagon]

wait, one clip thunder is level 14 and another he's level 25. Are you telling me someone held a leveling clip for weeks to try and pass as recent?

[sudden cargo]

didn't try to pass as recent, thunder was typing in game about leveling at seph when he lost 8v16 is all

there was also this but not recent either. just wanted to make sure he knew not to try and make up stuff about winning vs our grp during leveling
https://medal.tv/games/ashes-of-creation/clips/lOamsCy6OlKpObQwH?invite=cr-MSx5V2IsMzM4NjU5NzQ0&v=33

[viral wagon]

ai slop is good for saving time

[sudden cargo]

wait guy with no context is trying to type to me someone help him

[viral wagon]

posts in a public forum trying to shit talk about old stuff pretending it's new/relevant
complains when it doesn't go how he wants

[sudden cargo]

wait guy can't read either someone help him

[viral wagon]

'muh context' , actual redditor redact lol

[sudden cargo]

wait he might've learned to read, he's getting warmer

[limpid roost]

(Edited)

[viral wagon]

already editing posts lol

[limpid roost]

You can't even read your own typing grapply; just stop before you embarrass yourself further

[sudden cargo]

god damn it I added some extra text to avoid the 30 second time out I LOST THE ARGUMENT

[viral wagon]

calling me slurs all angry like and editing it last minute smh, typical polar. Not sending their best

[sudden cargo]

I forgot to not type to ragebait accounts

[limpid roost]

Are you from a fly-over country?

[viral wagon]

tucking and tail and running, classic. Dogz on 3

[south wadi]

@viral wagon your using chatgpt to understand social cues just leave this to the big dawgs lil pup

[viral wagon]

uses chatgpt to summarize so a 10 year old can understand
polar benchwarmer claims it's using chatgpt to understand social cues

actually ironic lol

[sudden cargo]

don't type to ragebait accounts he just wants a response lol

[viral wagon]

@Kaiser @Tanko come back please, I miss you. Your benchwarmers are actual redacts

[limpid roost]

Because your arguments can't stand on their own legs so you need to dive into their profile to use a personal attack to "win". Sad. Must be a blue haired Twitter user

[sudden cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-typing-fast-pepetyping-gif-22951566

[limpid roost]

Point exactly. God I'm good. You're all the same

[viral wagon]

they're so bad at this, they're close to making me miss Lexicat boomer memes ngl

[limpid roost]

Weird European reflecting out loud.

[south wadi]

nah you just ass at rage baiting

[viral wagon]

Yes, I'm a British man living in Iceland. You caught me

[viral wagon]

yet you're still here lol. Polar aint sending their best

[south wadi]

MaraJade the only good rage baiters around these parts

[limpid roost]

Yeah exactly. Flyover country

[viral wagon]

true, @drifting herald is the smartest player Polar has ever had

[limpid roost]

Weirdly submissive lmao pathetic

[south wadi]

Yea Im running crates was hoping there was some good ragebaiters in this channel to pass time but its cooked

[viral wagon]

like a 5 year old who loses a game and says the other person sucks at it lol

[south wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-tongue-out-reze-chainsaw-man-moving-her-head-reze-head-moving-reze-chainsaw-man-gif-15937294161332759512

[viral wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/tmugsy-spout-noob-dogz-gif-27355318

[limpid roost]

Anime is just a gateway to not growing up

[south wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5guhMw_EH0

[rancid stirrup]

Lexis shitposting was on a other level

[agile ivy]

These summoner mystic bugs make me wanna die

[viral wagon]

true, you need to waste years building a guild solely for ashes just to get absorbed by a c tier pvp guild from classic WoW 🤣

[novel turret]

@sudden cargo you died about 8 times to lvl 13s as a level 19 and took a single highlight

[sudden cargo]

why are we making stuff up?

[viral wagon]

now he's going to try and gaslight about the jump cuts lol

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sadism-suffering-happy-pin-kiv-gif-19470753

[novel turret]

even firebrand hates polar

[stable rose]

That's all polar is good for. Ash piles. Firebrand knows it

[modest crypt]

an anotha one

[drifting herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AHXQTGDRDX8?si=6OO6LuSHRiblMuxq

[main spire]

https://tenor.com/view/theburntpeanut-bungulator-twitch-stare-got-em-gif-13218764415226663824

[weak robin]

Firebrand on top

[spiral spindle]

That man is tuned for enchanted lego

[wicked bone]

now that was fun at aithanahr

[wicked bone]

respect to vice for being the only ones to show up, much fun

[lean wedge]

Another guild that showed up. Aura still missing

[clear rose]

The only place Aura shows up is at /global

[flat furnace]

They are just denying content so it's fine.

[grim oracle]

I didn't even know there was PVP last night

I woulda came down and rolled everyone with my almighty bard abilities. Yup yup yup

[sick mantle]

"hardcore pvp guild" 🤣

[flat furnace]

There was a whole fkn naval battle on shol..... Oh wait sorry I forgot we are a PvE carebear server..... My bad.

[grim oracle]

Can't believe the mighty otters have fallen so far as to engage in PVP

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/jbtzxclsv-big-mad-plies-gif-13158302

[scarlet pier]

We might care and we might be bears. But we aren’t carebears

[grim oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/cutesy-hey-there-flirty-funny-man-gif-4336200458312583033

A server of only otters and bears you say?

[drifting herald]

Idk wtf they talking about , only pvp I saw was one guild lost to a other guild in the system announcements , and everyone was roasting them , meanwhile I have 130k in xp debt from pvp last night

[flat furnace]

And cats..... Furry ERP server confirmed

[drifting herald]

Yea curious , why did yall go shol and not resna ?

[grim oracle]

Fuck! We shoulda gone to shol.

[flat furnace]

There was a vote and shol won even though I personally voted resna I'm actually quite grateful Shol won the vote after seeing the state of both servers

[sick mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/next-goldberg-youre-next-wwe-world-wrestling-entertainment-gif-17791133

[void scarab]

[flat furnace]

NORTH KOREA WILL PROTECT ME

[void scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

[flat furnace]

Actually they won't protect me at all as they have been constantly attacking our alliance but go hit them instead

[sick mantle]

Heard people thinnk Matcha Ninjas on shol are polar 🤣

[drifting herald]

Silly Kaiser

[flat furnace]

Haven't even seen them

[sick mantle]

cats dodged resna to get shit on by an organized first time ashes guild they are lucky "Matcha Ninjas" aint going all out

[drifting herald]

Bro wants to be a villain soo bad but jus a big fucking goof ball

[sick mantle]

you're 45 with kids using a ai generated tsunade profile pic with this as your bio:
and you're calling ppl goof ball 😂 💀

[spiral spindle]

Im convinced you spend more time thinking about polar than your family 💀

[flat furnace]

We already have a villain we are good. Shatter is sailing the 7 seas with his North Korean gang

[drifting herald]

Cool, at least my profile isn’t blank cuz I’m dodging a discord ban

[drifting herald]

I’m convinced you don’t have a fucking family or a life outside of ashes !

[sick mantle]

wasn't even a convo about polar at that point and he still thinks im kaiser 😂

[spiral spindle]

Message count check

[drifting herald]

You’re profile is blank pussy

[drifting herald]

The fucking Stray is hungry , where’s the can wet food …brb

[sick mantle]

45 years old WITH KIDS 💀 🤣

[spiral spindle]

💀 💀 💀

[drifting herald]

Ahaha you think me versus your entire guild daily is new ? You’re all a bunch of grifters , who got wrecked last night by a guild of lvl 18’s

[flat furnace]

I mean I yap on discord while chilling with my kids..... They are little and just play and shit while I sit in the corner on my phone

[sick mantle]

Yeah mara is very mad now HAHAHAHA

[spiral spindle]

Its okay when you do it phoenixfire

[drifting herald]

The funniest shit is there’s literally nothing you can say or do to me that will ever make you guys not scumbag cheaters and wow pve players

[sick mantle]

You don't complain 24/7 and let 20 year olds in a video game affect you like Mara dudes 45 years old with the brain of a 12 year old.

[flat furnace]

It's ok by the time this shitshow actually releases they will be teenagers and won't want anything to do with me so I will be free to game twice as much

[drifting herald]

That’s like their gotcha moment , meanwhile they no life an alpha test

[spiral spindle]

Youre so mentally broken its actually amazing what we've done to you

[drifting herald]

And you’re a nobody Valerie ! It is what it is !

Nobody

[spiral spindle]

Brother you are srixuns dog, he owns you. Please stop barking. Youre full dommed by another man

[drifting herald]

Lol yea right , you bend over for tm

[spiral spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cesar911-cesar911series-dogs-puppies-cute-gif-5725569

[fair roost]

I HEARD UR A MAYOR. can we expect a montage of you corrupting on crates

https://tenor.com/view/ready-for-war-seal-soldier-gif-15403489

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/spank-naughty-girl-tinkerbell-sparkling-gif-16464607

[flat furnace]

No but maybe the other way around. I've been hunting corrupters where possible. I'm in NA so sometimes by the time I get to the halc pass it's all over.

[drifting herald]

That’s a cute dog , we were actually thinking about adopting this one but can’t go see her till Friday ‘

[spiral spindle]

Pugs are ugly as shit but good on you for adopting

[drifting herald]

Terrier mix, and yea it’s ugly , that’s why I like you ! Same shit

[fair roost]

bro casters and physical users are playing a dif game this phase... Rosethorn set mats vs rosarium mats

I have to slay 144 wolves for 1 mf item WHY MAN

[spiral spindle]

[rough silo]

Blood runner

[snow radish]

@glacial pine
had 1% exp debt before we came back to extract our buddy
now at, 12% = 1% per spawncamp kill at westernmost harbor
enjoy your trophy!

[warped mural]

I have a montage coming. Looking for a legit editor tho

Too busy for that shit 😒

[cyan violet]

What am I reading

[snow radish]

context desired?

[cyan violet]

Everytime I catch up all I can surmise is dick measuring contest where grown men wish they could split stones.

I like most of the people in here though I do think they’re young knuckleheads. I did it, so I can’t really give them shit for their behavior.

[snow radish]

alright grandpa, lets get you to bed, it's sundown.

[cyan violet]

No it ain’t and no I’m not. Hindsight doesn’t make someone a Grandpa. Grandkids do. I’d flaunt Gamer Dad or Grandpa like a badge of honor of I had them.

[tawny vessel]

They should eradicate the breed tbh!

[cyan violet]

Rough. I want an Aussie X Mastiff mix.

[drifting herald]

They just jealous ! Specially the degen zoomers cuz there isn’t a person alive who wants to fuck with em !

[drifting herald]

I used to have large pits, 120lb all white American pit bully named Yayo

I was playing with this Malinois the other day, what a cool fucking doggo, insane breed

https://tenor.com/view/malinois-berger-belge-angry-dog-gif-15659991

https://youtube.com/shorts/3qOms4eKM1k?si=6o-rIegJhd5eDNDj

[wicked bone]

Monthly shower complete ✅ im ready to go

[sick oar]

Please ping me if anyone important comes back or there are dwarf issues

[grim oracle]

There's always a dwarf Bard issue

I can't front flip with my melody on and it's fucking bullshit

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/munchy-chips-smelly-you're-smelly-you-stink-stinky-gif-3279972143131148752

[grizzled widget]

Yeah rose thorn is cooked. Just gonna mix plate with Bloomwarden I guess

[grizzled widget]

I have a couple Moltruin pieces, isn’t bad

[fair roost]

i've never seen a game have such crazy gearing differences for physical/caster its night and day man

[drifting herald]

I saw your toon last night , looks cool !

[grizzled widget]

Was just gonna sit on that and build out 6pc Bloomwarden until Sandbastion.

[fair roost]

ya at this point im just like ok ill wear adept until 29 f it

[drifting herald]

Like Robin Hood or some shit

[grizzled widget]

Dewthread

I’m running 2pc Dewthread and trying to fit 2pc Soulseeker as well but this phase sucks for casters

Which is annoying because this phase is actually worth playing and has been really good

Doubt anyone comes back until next wipe though

[agile ivy]

It has been so far but we're entering Farmville again unless they change something 🙁

[drifting herald]

I only have 1 piece of some shit called Gritbound or something idk

[grizzled widget]

We’re just gonna take nodes and war dec each other I guess. Ocean seems kinda dead still?

[drifting herald]

I’m mostly uncommon skulkers, 4 pieces of Ashen Haunt , two starlit creed , and uncommon thornbound daggers

[grizzled widget]

I was waiting to make my 26 bows before I lived on the water but your guild refuses to upgrade the wood stations lmao. Still only like 240 magic power.

[agile ivy]

it'll kill the game. the game loop hinging on "all calls" means the world is dead 95% of the time

[grizzled widget]

We’ll see. Node wars with destruction will be a lot of drama

[agile ivy]

sure, and that's great...but there's nothing there the rest of the time

they've gotta incentivize lawless, get harbingers online, and tune saltwater sports fishing (maybe?)

not sure if saltwater fishing is actually good and people are gatekeeping...but it seems like it's worse than just being afk with crates lol

[hushed grove]

mid/large scale bg's and arenas (and world content) when

[grizzled widget]

Considering it’s an alpha, I am okay with it being something I play one or two nights a week after I’m done gearing. Long term though I agree there does need to be a daily driver

[grim oracle]

It was a stealth fighter buff

[drifting herald]

When ? They can’t come fast enough imo

An 8v8 ashes version of swtor huttball , but it’s a dead Grem instead of a ball and it takes place inside one of the grind poi’s !

[fast tusk]

Salt water seem solid now. We have had our guys make decent money with the expensive fishes and Polar has TMX on gaurd duty on the tropic turn in station and and calling backup wheneeer we stop them form fishing

[agile ivy]

The million dollar question is how does it compare to the other methods of making gold?

Unfortunately saltwater fishing doesn't scale with chinese botting and RMT....the vendors still pay out the same 🙁

[viral wagon]

not only chinese abusing afk fishing tbh

[fast tusk]

If you have a guild doing it and can protect boats and move efficently it seems very good. We havnt done a ton of testing with high lvl fishing gear so not sure how consistant it can be but we have been getting the high lvl fish at a better rate then in the past and they go for 5+ gold each. The problem will be for smaller groups, if your not able to protect your ship your going to lose all your profit very fast.

[void plaza]

Its not good

[viral wagon]

almost a 1:1 with BDO afk fishing at launch

[agile ivy]

afk fishing bots are a small problem compared to the crate bots

[viral wagon]

with the stack of gibberish names I see fishing, Intrepid touches crate bots without dealing with afk fishing is just going to shift the botting around and not fix anything

[agile ivy]

we need a good gold buyer banwave

[fast tusk]

Need perm bans for first offence

Guild leadership that have consistant guild buyers banned should also be permed

[agile ivy]

I'd be willing to show some mercy (keep in mind that people are coming from MMORPGs where the rules aren't enforced)

1st offence full account wipe
2nd offence ban

[dense minnow]

thats because all pvp systems were neutered to avoid abuse. Corruption overtuned, guild wars with charge limits and very expensive, node wars on charges and no consequence, world bosses now becoming pve races because of guild war changes, caravans being bugged/low slot usage. If/when all the systems start working, there will be enough activity to be busy all day

[fast tusk]

They do this in runescape, and hella people just buy gold untill they catch their first then stop. There should be fear involved with buying gold, not the treat of a vacation where they will just play an alt anyways.

[rancid stirrup]

I don't understand how in a pvx game world Bosses aren't even a pvp zone

[fast tusk]

Your never going to stop supply for something in massive demand, gold farmers always have and always will find a way

[agile ivy]

That's why the first offense would be a full account wipe...as in...you start from zero...no characters...nothing.

[fast tusk]

Idk i like perm bans. They establish a real punishment and not this dumb charater wipe shit where they come back in 3 months under the same name and pretend they didn't do anything.

will be diff with a full release and no wipes, but idk fuck gold buyers they ruin the game. At least make them pay for a new account each time they get caught, and ban guilds who knowingly benefit from their whales

[humble coral]

Perma bans isnt enouth a full on IP bans, credit card bans, intenet bans, lower their credit score, maybe throw a computer ban

[agile ivy]

I think Easy Anti Cheat can unironically do hardware bans.

I'm still of the belief that even if they only ban a small percentage of the buyers it'll have a massive chilling effect on the practice.

[drifting herald]

Facts, can’t wait till it finally happens and the problem people get nuked out of verra for good !

[flat furnace]

I've always assumed that they are hesitant on permas because most of the folks who would get it other than bots and rmters would also lose their irreplaceable account perks from buying early keys years ago.

[drifting herald]

They shouldn’t risk it

[dense minnow]

they are already banning buyers, I've seen perma bans for suspicious gold trades with known gold sellers. Don't know how many as their support team is probably small, but this is something that they will never win. As long as you don't personally know ppl getting banned, you'll always believes that there is no one being punished

[flat furnace]

Oh ya I'm not saying I agree with it I just assume that is where some of the reluctance is from

[agile ivy]

That's why I suggested full account wipe for the first offence. Yes it's easy to say zero tolerance but the MMORPG environment globally is full of companies who don't actually enforce the rules.

[drifting herald]

If they are that dumb to do it then they know the risks that come with it

[stable rose]

Not just a phase wipe or ban either. Needs to be a steam and hardware ban

[flat furnace]

I watched a whole bio on Venezuelan gold sellers in RuneScape and it was something they actively avoided dealing with because they were conflicted on game health vs people feeding their families

[drifting herald]

They cheat > they get banned - Fuck em, good riddance games better off without them !

[hushed grove]

Communal punishment should 100% be applied

Warning for leadership followed by a ban of leadership + warning for members followed by a ban for members

Scare the community into self segregating out the trash

and only absolute apes will argue something like... "But I didn't know that my guild did X Y Z" ---> you learn who RMT's/Exploits/Does other weird stuff within like a week of joining a guild if you're a normal person

[fast tusk]

Yeah, if you have large amount of gold buyers in your guild its very easy to tell. Shouldnt have a competitive advantage that is unpunishable. The people who are againt stuff like this is because they like having the rich guildmates feeding the rest of them

[hushed grove]

and obviously the company can make exceptions, namely/especially as guilds get more casual and such --> obviously random dad guild #73 might have some unknown people engaging in unwanted behaviors without anyone knowing about it very much.

It can more just be a casus belli & tool against heaviest offenders in reality

[hushed grove]

Organization-wide communal punishment and the community being terrified into self regulating is literally the only way to prevent "exploit early, exploit often." in a game of this nature

It's bad irl but for an mmo it can work quite nicely

[steep furnace]

I think for econ players, the bigger problem isn't the buyers but the Chinese undercutting. Right now NA players are trying to grab 100+g for a set of petal shard epic accessories.

China lvl 15 players are selling the set for 50g.
At this point its not even worth buying from NA players with the prices they want.

[agile ivy]

Y'all have grandiose ideas for RMT enforcement...I would literally settle for 5-10% of them actually being banned and facing REAL punishment. That alone would be transformative lol.

[modest crypt]

Hear me out. I hate gold sellers BUT this one guy pays me very well for what I'm selling to him.. they're not all bad

[south lynx]

stop banning sellers and perma the buyers

[gusty ridge]

Ban both forever. It’s cancer for the game

[agile ivy]

THIS!

[south lynx]

You cant win a battle of banning sellers, too many accounts to much capital

you CAN win a battle against perma banning buyers opportunity cost is much higher for the buyer.

[agile ivy]

you honeypot the buyers with this and it's based...you can't ban the sellers anyway...use the sellers to find the buyers

[rancid stirrup]

Ffxiv for the longest time people were afraid to even talk about plug-ins and tools in game chat. Its slowly devolved over the last few years and now people openly admit to buying pilot/clears and rmt gold, use programs to basically bot every craft and auto gather. Square still does ban waves but until consequences actually catch up with people again and that fear comes back its not going away

[gusty ridge]

I agree but there should still be some moderation if they see the sellers. But I think if you buy gold even 1 time you should get a perma ban.

[south lynx]

Yeah like ban the account spamming in trade but watch how fast these chineese rmt companies stop supporting ahses when their sales tank 90% cause all their buyers are getting perma banned.

That's how you beat RMT you make it not profitable for the companies to sell in our game, only way to do that is to be VERY harsh on buyers. If you wanna be nice you can 6 month -> perma 2 strike system but yeah

[gusty ridge]

Fair enough

[grim oracle]

Steven is already running the guld selling sites. That's my theory. Easy money and a list of who to ban that will buy more accounts?

[fast tusk]

Polar boats saved by a server worker crash

3rd time this wipe a server worker drops when fighting polar

[void marsh]

oh man that was about to be a whole naval fleet destroyed lmfao

[fast tusk]

2 boats destroyed, wiped everyone alive and while destroying the last two the server drops. gotta be a coincidence right?

[earnest canopy]

How long before we have to link irl identity to game accounts so we can ban the people. Not just the accounts that get remade?

[hushed grove]

Would definitely be a start, but really it's not hard to do that and threaten communal punishment alongside it

[dense minnow]

americans have a meltdown when you suggest that

[hushed grove]

That would be tantamount to treason here

[dense minnow]

they think they have privacy and freedom

[marble sky]

Uhh ohh another American hate this type of guy

[hushed grove]

Only those vile commies would want such a violation of rights, you wouldn't know of any of those, would you?

[gusty ridge]

Just region lock

[viral wagon]

an anime girl with a 1911 suits that joke kek

[drifting herald]

What about selling accounts ?

Not gonna answer that one huh

[inner prawn]

I mean 100 gold for a set is kinda wild.

[steep furnace]

oh it is, econ is fucked right now most things are 100g+ or just cheap af lol

[inner prawn]

Until they come up with a better solution to the game loop this game is setup perfectly for gold sellers and buyers to thrive. People with a 9 to 5 that have to leave the house will always fall behind to people with no jobs. There is no skill in combat in this game it's literally gear based.

[earnest canopy]

ya so everyone can just vpn around it? good thinkin

[ancient surge]

how do you ban buyers? ban anyone trading with a gold seller? sellers just trade randoms free gold. ban anyone buying from AH? sellers mix legit sales with sus sales. not as easy to do as you think

[rancid stirrup]

Receiving large sums of money in exchange for things not worth large sums of money are pretty easy to find if they have the data as easily laid out as they claim

[inner prawn]

This game is 99% econ goodluck

[ancient surge]

if someone walks up to a noob and says "i'll give you 20 gold for that wood u just chopped" theyre gonna say yes lol

and not even that. ive traded friends in game just starting out plenty of gold and theyve sent me 2 heroic ruby they just RNG'd because they dont know what to do with it.

the math isnt "can you do it"

it's "does the impact of the false positive rate outweigh the impact the gold buyers have on the playerbase"

and i promise 2 threads a day of someone getting banned for accepting free gold from someone randomly will be pretty hard to avoid

[earnest canopy]

flag the gold sellers and dont ban them. ban anyone they trade gold to

[ancient surge]

then the gold sellers adapt and trade gold to randoms as well as their buyers. they not new to this lol

[earnest canopy]

welp. guess people will learn not to take candy from strangers

[grizzled widget]

are you new to playing MMOs? honestly

[ancient surge]

yeah I am please teach me!!!!!!

[grizzled widget]

then you should know most mmos ban people for buying gold including world of warcraft.

this isn't some deep mystery of how to solve.

lol

[inner prawn]

They will find a way around it all. The game itself just shouldn't be 95% econ farming and the other 5% fighting in the ocean.

[ancient surge]

oh. nevermind. i thought you had something useful to say

[grizzled widget]

I mean you're sitting here what-abouting false positives when MMOs have been banning goldbuyers for like 30 fucking years. Not really sure what the point of talking about this is.

[south lynx]

It's really not that hard tbh

[grizzled widget]

yeah like wtf? lol

[south lynx]

I Got the chance to speak to Smilegate's Lost Ark enforcement? whatever you wanna call it team in KR and they are pretty sick with their methods of finding buyers. AGS started to take some of their methods and tech and it helped RMT in lost ark in the west alot to go down but then they just stopped doing it LUL

[grizzled widget]

bet homie just bought gold and is test-running the dumb argument he'll use on reddit when he gets torched

how are you liking this phase grenton

[inner prawn]

Lmao I'll keep my mouth shut as if a certain guild didn't rmt in multiple games lmfao

[grizzled widget]

I mean they never catch everyone

but nerfing the stupid crate run from aven's to briar would be a great start

[grim oracle]

I guess people forget intrepid already said they can track all movement of items and gold in the game and roll back individual things. Plus they are able to just turn off individual items from being able to be created, sold, moved, or destroyed

[earnest canopy]

they claim a lot of things i dont think they can do lol

[inner prawn]

I would like to actually do something beside hit rocks and get a little action on the ocean without worrying about blowing up a 25 gold boat.

[grim oracle]

Except they did do the tracking on shol when carphin was finally fixed for excessive drop rates

[grizzled widget]

they absolutely need to scale back boat destruction

archeage ocean was super dead even without that involved

with it involved it'll just be a ghost town. that said, we've already kinda started agreeing not to destroy boats internally

[inner prawn]

25 gold is insane.

[grizzled widget]

like if you think about it there's really no point in destroying the boat. just demoralizes players and makes them do pve runs.

[hushed grove]

The actual destruction of vehicles is stupid

Shatigon's sand when?

[grizzled widget]

boat should just be destroyed on a one-hour CD or something. or require wood to repair it. but 25g is insane.

[hushed grove]

^ the archeage way.

A cd with a consumable item that lowers the cd by X amount / also allows repairs when it's alive so pvp'ers can burn gold on fights that need it... For all vehicles

[grizzled widget]

same reason no one runs caravans

[inner prawn]

i agree

even a 10 minute cooldown and some wood since that is the way to get actual pvp content.

[fast tusk]

Boat destruction feels good to do. It just needs to be way cheaper. These no way it makes sence to fish with them unless you have a big guild group when people on shoal skippers are just going to gank you.

[rancid stirrup]

Timed lockout would be nice tbh even for caravans

[fast tusk]

Need like small 5 gold fishing boats so smaller groups can have a gameplay loop out there

[golden bone]

Doesn’t stop Navy Larpers blowing up each others destroyers and submarines in Foxhole

[drifting herald]

Tbf a big ass ship shouldn’t be slower than a fat ass manatee lol

https://tenor.com/view/manatee-fat-seal-gif-14276805

[dense minnow]

when they introduce vehicle/structure type damage it will be better. I enjoy the destruction aspect very much, the only real loss in the game rn. The main issue with ships is that there is no respawn in the ocean, you lose one fight and its at least 10 min to go back, enough time to destroy the ship. Add low TTK to that and even if ships takes longer to destroy, you have a quick 10 second joust every 10 minutes of running back to the spot

[hasty gyro]

Feel like the argument ppl had with vans that didn’t get fully destroyed was carp loses economic value supposedly but I feel if you had carp make repair kits for vans/boats they’d make just as much money/if not more

[oblique fossil]

their idea is the hull sinks to the bottom of ocean and if you retrieve it you can repair it

as a......YOU GUESSED IT....crate. Steven LOVES crates.

[light radish]

The perma destruction of caravans and boats been braindead since the beginning

[oblique fossil]

its a way to increase player retention.

[light radish]

But it’s Steven’s vision, he also wants dad gamers to randomly log in to their storage being gone after node death so

[dense minnow]

to me its more about the progression/financial loss than anything else. Its a meaningful loss, the only one in the game currently. I want to destroy the other guild's convoy and inflict heavy finantial loss.

[oblique fossil]

always keep them grinding with money sinks and time sinks

[oblique fossil]

dad gamers can put their storage into lion hold and the starting area storage if they want. But investing in a node is your risk. Its literally in the name of the game.

[covert mountain]

Is this where I drop the suggestion for Intrepid Sub Tokens that are sold in economic nodes only?

💀 🍻 💸

[grizzled widget]

all it does is steer guilds to run trains of mules instead. massively reduced risk for the same reward.

[hushed grove]

Hey that's not true.

It also artificially will actually CAUSE inflation because they inherently will have to tune rewards to compensate for it in addition to tuning rewards for crates/mules/ect existing

[grizzled widget]

idk inflation has been pretty subdued this phase

[hushed grove]

I.e. it's another broken stick stuck into the wheel that wont spin within the abomination of trying to stick archeage trading into a game with few of the aspects that made the caravan system function (somewhat) in its inspiring games

(The systems are good to have, but the destruction is just another element of Intrepid adding another problem to a pile of problems that they will already face with the caravan system in regards to how they've designed the world and their pvp systems)

[dense minnow]

well that depends on a lot of different factors. The corruption state, the amount of slots per caravan, the caravan survivability over mules, your access to a big group. They can tune it to make proper risk/reward levels and make mules be small scale content while making caravans being medium-large scale content. I can tell you when corruption gets nerfed and anyone can 2 tap your mule and steal your crates, I'd feel safer with my guild in a caravan convoy than alone in a mule

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sadism-suffering-happy-pin-kiv-gif-19470753

[hushed grove]

It's not tuned yet though clearly.

Once it's tuned, which it obviously has to / will be, that increased loss innately forces them to raise the reward despite the game gaining essentially nothing positive in return - the only reason why people would want the actual destruction is to combat inflation, and the only way to make it rewarding enough for people to enjoy/do it is to... Add inflation.

'tis why the archeage method there is best, you get a gold (or perhaps material for Ashes) sink that will bleed resources from the economy without mandating that Intrepid add a little something extra on top of the rewards that caravans already will need to exist in a world with mules/other systems

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-fart-gas-stinky-gif-8945574110891947267

[grizzled widget]

maybe we played different versions of archeage but people only ran crates across the ocean in the alpha/1.2 release because you needed charcoal/gilda stars. had nothing to do with gold.

ocean fishing was the gold faucet

[hushed grove]

^ yeah ocean runs for essence and onyx/charcoal/gilda depending on the patch.

I am more referring to vehicles in general (namely ones that carry packs) whether land or sea

[grizzled widget]

extending to ashes, the solution is just introducing a charcoal type material that you need to make level 29 weapons. and it can only be earned running caravans. the other alternative is tying it to upgrading stations to GM

and if node destruction goes live and shit is constantly downgrading, that means people need to keep running caravans

has nothing to do with inflation

[dense minnow]

it already exists, but for true endgame crafting (lvl 50), its called verdant flux and you get it from harbor commodities

[grizzled widget]

which is not required for level 29 weapons currently. hence the suggestion.

[dense minnow]

I don't think they care about current state, game will launch in less than a year

[grizzled widget]

lol?

there's no way ashes is launching in 2026. they're already walking back the beta in 2026 comment

[cyan violet]

It’ll die even faster.

[dense minnow]

they shouldn't be making the game for it to be enjoyable now, cause that will change quickly and its a waste of time. Just develop the game the way its supposed to be at launch and stop wasting time

[grizzled widget]

practically nothing about what we're playing right now is how it'll be on launch. no castles, no sieges, no node destruction, no sub-classes, level cap at 25, etc.

such a low effort troll lol

[dense minnow]

of course things that aren't in yet are not the way it will be at launch. But changing the entire gear system to cater to players right now, just to change it again when level cap raises, then change it again and again and again until launch is a stupid waste of time

[grizzled widget]

you're right. we shouldn't test anything before it goes live. makes sense.

[dense minnow]

testing things that are not how it supposed to be at launch truly sounds like a great way to spend our time and developers efforts

[cyan violet]

NW flashbacks. Yoiks.

[grizzled widget]

dude we're playing the game stuck at level 25. nothing we are doing is how things will be at launch.

[opaque sluice]

Oh man. Hopping on Reddit and seeing polar wrecking Resna through bullshit shenanigans in the anvils. But, I bet the PvP is good. Classic. So glad we let toxicity stay around.

[oblique fossil]

wheres the quote? we are told beta is launching late 2026

[slate current]

i definitely remember steven saying something about beta in 2026 and thinking i need the name of his dealer for whatever hes fucking smoking

[grizzled widget]

Resna still has more server progress than the other servers, lol

[viral wagon]

beta in 2026 would've been doable if they didn't try to do the live service shit and did ptr only(at the level they did the month before steam launch)

[opaque sluice]

Like I give a fuck.

[grizzled widget]

LMAO

[opaque sluice]

If the people you are playing with are acting like slunts I could care less if there is progress.

[humble juniper]

I REALLY doubt resna has cities with 4+ buildings lol (of course, they definitely won't after polar dismantles all of them )

[wicked bone]

https://tenor.com/view/akkubaba007-jerry-laugh-akku-fav-gif-gif-16150872697915744919

[fast tusk]

jova does

[humble juniper]

One huh? I guess polar DOES get that participation trophy 🎉

[fast tusk]

Halcycon and winstead have 4 too

Server is progressing fine outside of polar owned citys

[drifting herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/671NPARZTwk?si=Ns777I5OzY0xFxJw

[grizzled widget]

3 different settlements all nearly maxed out lol

[humble juniper]

I saw that up higher 👍

[ancient lodge]

GGs Eclipe for solid Resna content

[gleaming blade]

GG's! Lots of good pvp with alot of guys! @rough nova You guys are solid as always man!

[grizzled magnet]

server worker didn't crash?

[gleaming blade]

Nah we didnt see any polar boats out there lol

[wicked bone]

Why are u lying

You watched him nuke ur boat and youre asking if hes banned 😂

[gleaming blade]

We killed alot of flying mounts.

[wicked bone]

W delete

[gleaming blade]

Hey if hes not then hes not. no reason to spread something if its not true

[weak robin]

Flying mounts cringe

[dense minnow]

looks like he lost mayorship , only settlement with a missing mayor. Maybe intrepid removed him because of the building destruction shenanigans

[gleaming blade]

Nah they said that's intended so they won't intervene

[long drum]

GG’s!

[south wadi]

GGs everyone another fun day of Ashes of Creation, I am excited for what tomorrow will bring!

To the person on the scorpion in the ocean I killed I am deeply sorry

[long drum]

They weren’t torn up about it, kind of did him a favor

[south wadi]

If he was swimming and dodge rolling he prob would of got to his destination before I saw him, lol, my xp debt from PvE was making be hungry to hit people

[long drum]

I don’t blame you lmao GG’s hope you have a good night!

[weak robin]

We were watching our boy orphan log in for the first time today into whatever the hell was going on at those docks between you aura and black sails, wtf started that? hahaha

[long drum]

just fun pvp

[rough silo]

Did someone got nuked?

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-wtf-gif-15203659117181765068

[thorny storm]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-meme-coffin-meme-coffin-dance-coffin-dance-meme-ew343-gif-17188412

[inland crater]

drop citizen with less than 24 hrs to vote -> trigger emergency election -> get votes in for the node -> take multiple nodes in the same election cycle

[rough silo]

Mayor status only got updated post reset?

[iron jolt]

Is this meant to be a flex? cause it reads like a self-own 😄

"I was a shitty mayor, remember me"

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[spring fossil]

so glad im not on that dogshit ass server LMAO

[weak robin]

As far as i'm concerned new aela was always a wilderness node

[rough silo]

Calling resna dogshit when you play on streamer rp land is wild take

[spring fossil]

defending the worst server by far, is crazy

[foggy widget]

brother, the rp is not relegated to one server, 90% of the discord warriors here are trying to roleplay as vox from hazbin hotel

[flat furnace]

Surely citizen cooldown is going to be fixed this week

[humble coral]

Dose it say emergancy election or dose the original election override it?

[vague sluice]

it is intended that way there's another way that will come and will stop vote hopping better than CD and since polar as always used it to its finest they will get it done a few days after they are back lol

[flat furnace]

Can't blame this one on polar. It was obvious this type of shit was going to happen as soon as they said this crap was intended. It was a terrible decision and they are being shown exactly why. So again, hopefully they fix it.

[cyan violet]

Going to get a different game, gotta childproof it before all the adults play something else.

[sick oar]

Always launch servers and then take a 5 week vacation please

It's the way

[fair roost]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-the-office-old-man-michael-scott-gif-15530652

[lilac harness]

I think they deserve more time off tbh. Extend it to Easter. Then, drop the next patch/phase with three new systems which none of actually work as intended.

[rough silo]

https://tenor.com/view/douse-in-gasoline-tim-commerford-rage-against-the-machine-testify-song-spill-gas-gif-18865386

[lilac harness]

https://tenor.com/view/lighter-flame-gif-6217904

[sick oar]

You calling me old nerd?

I'm young and all muscle like Liniker

[keen zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-alert-speaker-alarm-gif-15124610

[grim oracle]

Aren't you in your 70s or something?

[keen zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-btvs-buffyverse-willow-rosenberg-alyson-hannigan-gif-8918350444760644060

[grim oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-rock-budweiser-grandpa-is-feeling-a-little-frisky-today-gif-6293292534534358564

[grizzled widget]

Idk watching people just freely ocean fish on stream for hours screams dead server to me

So it’s good if you’re having fun but that server sounds boring as fuck

[lilac harness]

I heard roachsoftware got pvp settings checked the other day, blew up, and cried for hours about people mount corruption baiting, banning people, and exploiting only to make a huge announcement for people to make sure their settings are correct. Peak gameplay. Peak content.

[humble coral]

Its almost like his members who understood pvp just magically disappeared 🤔

[limber pond]

He had members who understood PvP at any point?

[drifting herald]

Yea he was a wow player that worked at blizzard !

[cyan violet]

Welcome to the old guy club even though we are only in our thirties

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659

[grim oracle]

40 is the new 20. Just need new robotic legs and hips

[foggy widget]

it happened again

[long drum]

From what I understand, kiwi farms has been hunting them all

[spring fossil]

already played on a server with polar and that’s way less fun

[rough silo]

https://tenor.com/view/carebear-carebears-cute-care-bear-stare-gif-5570640

[spring fossil]

enjoy your server wipes from exploiters man :)

[rough silo]

Tell me you're a carebear without telling me you're carebear.

[spring fossil]

i don’t want to insult you, you’re clearly deficient :(

[lean wedge]

Go back to hitting rocks you have no place here

[placid tangle]

Insulting someone with getting materials to better themselves because that's an active avenue in powering themselves up in the game, is wild, also it's the most cost efficient. I'm lost here.

Test the damn game, Report the exploit, move on and repost to make awareness.
Only when there's enough backlash from the community does something get switched in favor of the average player.

[rough silo]

Did I miss something?

[placid tangle]

Nah, not directed at you

[grim oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25860033

[rough silo]

Just found it funny my guy saying the undeveloped server he's playing with bunch of roleplayers and streamers is better because there is no Polar there.

[grim oracle]

Most other servers are almost at the same spot as resna and now because of polar Resna will be behind

[placid tangle]

Probably a bigger target for Polar to switch then
Which they said they would at somepoint

[rough silo]

I've seen the other servers, they are not 100% not at the same spot lol Lotharia is pretty much getting there, region wise all NA servers are at least month away from resna progress even with Polar griefing and after Polar loses marjority of the settlements they control Resna will still be ahead.

Anyway enjoy New years

[grim oracle]

What? Shol is literally like a day or two behind

We were well ahead because of a couple small guilds building KT themselves. Could of had the ability to craft any recipe that actually needs anvils. But bitches be bitches

[drifting herald]

Resna on top ?

[foggy widget]

idk why dudes feel the need to cope about an alpha game where progress will get reset

[rough silo]

Your analogy is like saying dont do nothing in life because you will end up dying anyway.

[grim oracle]

More just lots of people wanted to test anvils shit.

[foggy widget]

nah im saying stop attaching your self worth to something so ultimately meaningless

[rough silo]

Don't play games then they are meaningless.

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-exterminatus-explosion-nuke-40k-gif-22693290

[cyan violet]

Shols doing good working considering a good portion of the players are new.

[grim oracle]

Yeah, shols been keeping up. You'll probably pass Resna soon

[foggy widget]

babbys first nihilism

[grizzled widget]

idk man playing a pvp game without any pvp sounds kinda dumb to me

[grim oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/youdoyou-doyou-gif-21875428

[foggy widget]

its almost as if mmos have multiple different activities to appeal to different playstyles

[spring fossil]

you think there’s no pvp on other servers? There’s constantly pvp happening lmfao. You genuinely think resna has a monopoly on pvp?

[grizzled widget]

if people are fishing on stream for hours on end with zero ganks, yes.

[cyan violet]

Yellow and Yokai can run a good logistics operation if they wanted too. Two incredibly intelligent individuals, too busy helping others burn the world down for whatever reason. Resna could stay miles ahead on people knowing the systems alone, but young dudes rather fling shit like an ape I guess.

[spring fossil]

i don’t even know what streamer you’re talking about lol

playing on the terrorist server makes you think you should constantly have to pvp over fish?

[fast tusk]

Sad thing is hes a better Mayor than PvPer

[foggy widget]

dude's just mad he paid full price for arc raiders and now all the lobbies are friendly

[spring fossil]

LMFAO

[grizzled widget]

that was a good one though lol

[grizzled widget]

literally anyone streaming on shol. they just fish for hours for free. arrow did it yesterday in particular by himself. like, idk man but if that's the kind of experience you want you do you, but resna is a lot more fun imo.

[fast tusk]

You should have to constantly pvp over fish in the ocean. If your not getting constested your on the biggest care bear, boring pvpless server possible

[grizzled widget]

like if I wanted to pve fish all day I'd just play FFXIV, lol. the PvP is the point

[main scroll]

Depends on the time of day. There are some trolls on Shol that climb onto people’s rowboat and move it mid sport fishing so that it makes them lose the fish xD

[drifting herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-s5Pq0wP9HQ?si=Tv3SREbo1E2jc9vn

[grizzled widget]

anyway this has nothing to do with preference and more the fact that you guys were calling resna a dead server when people can literally afk on the ocean on shol

[spring fossil]

oh no the houthis guild wants my fish

[fast tusk]

Your going to grind for 500 hours getting max gear only to have nothing to do with it, and realize you didnt have any fun pvp along the way. I spent like 5 hours pvping in the ocean yesterday and its the most fun ive had in the game

[grizzled widget]

I mean fresh water exists for a reason. the entire idea of ocean fishing is that it is lawless

[grizzled widget]

yeah like what are you even grinding for at that point? lol

[fast tusk]

Building up gold only to get it wiped

[spring fossil]

i literally already pvp every day? bro is so unaware of other servers because he thinks all the pvpers are on a single server LMAO

[fast tusk]

killing the guy who looted your friend in steelbloom is not pvp

And yes all the pvpers are on one server. The other guilds dodged

[spring fossil]

oh my fault i didn’t realize you had to pvp in the ocean over literal fish for it it count

[wicked bone]

Can you be specific on the pvp you do

[fast tusk]

The lawless zone that prints gold? Yes, you are supposed to pvp over that if your not a carebear server player

[wicked bone]

I think all servers have pvp, i just thinks its a lot more fabricated on shol, and a lot more natural on resna

[spring fossil]

wiping parties trying to take grinding spots, killing entire crate run groups, and a bit of pirate pvp but i dont enjoy the ocean pvp so i dont do it LOL

[wicked bone]

Yeah thats good enough, dont listen to these other guys, 90% of them only do exactly what u said, except they are also on the oceans too, the main the thing is if you’re having fun

[fast tusk]

You a PvE main spaming global all day

[wicked bone]

I do know that shol is a lot more fabricated, in the sense there is more organized pvp at the larger scale to set up scenarios for pvp, whereas on resna its a lot more natural and contested so it happens randomly

[wicked bone]

Hey man gotta get those weapons some how

[fast tusk]

Self reporting you guys wont do anything without a gear gap

[main scroll]

True, Mira and Joeva are actually having a Node War Saturday. Should be fun

[wicked bone]

Im seeing a lot of talking from you and not alot of action ngl, im unsure where its all coming from

[fast tusk]

We litteraly ran your guilds boats so hard yall had to crash a server worker

[spring fossil]

[wicked bone]

the speculations are dumb, that server worker crashes for all of us

[fast tusk]

Crazy it literally only happens when it benefits your guild right? Randomly massed 10 extra people as soon as the server workers came back up and allowing for the boats that were about to sink to be despawned

[wicked bone]

Here is proof from an eu guild, that it happens on their server too. Please stop with the nonsense because you think you know better, you sadly dont.

[spring fossil]

game is fun af, pvp is super fun too just wanted to avoid a lot of guild drama of resna so i didn’t pick it lol

[wicked bone]

Its happening on all servers on all regions, stop with the polar blame and do ur research because clearly u have no clue. Its specifically that server worker that is crashing its been happening for days now

[fast tusk]

This isnt proof of anything there was like 40 peopl in the area total, the server workers do not crash from that shit. We hade 80 people on a boat last night running anything we saw with 0 issues

[wicked bone]

Are you going to be completely ignorant to the text on screen?

[fast tusk]

And thats not the only server worker we have gotten dropped at. We have wiped polar at light house twice only for the worker to drop and to come back with polar people on the island spawn camping the log ins

[spring fossil]

he’s illiterate give him a break

[fast tusk]

Must just be coincidence that it only happens when it helps you right? And its just very lucky while the worker is down you call in more people to help right?

[spring fossil]

could you explain HOW they’re crashing the server worker if you’re so sure?

[wicked bone]

Im glad your best achievement in game is wiping a group of polar, im proud of you.. but im literally showing you that specific server worker for the fishing crashing when theres many boats in the area, its been happening for days, across multiple servers, multiple regions, multiple groups of people

[fast tusk]

Crazy we were down there with way more people and boats and then nothing happened right? Just coincidence it helps polar when it happens

[wicked bone]

You are just lying bro, black sails doesnt even have 20 active members, please

[fast tusk]

Damn crazy how we ran your boats and stop your entire guild from fishing for being so small and bad right?

[wicked bone]

Like i said im proud of you, sounds like your biggest achievement, dont stray from the topic of conversation. That server worker is fucked and needs fixing

[fast tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/bingchilling-gif-1158789153226372051

[drifting herald]

What stupid excuse they have now ?

[cyan violet]

Is it dodging if a guild trounces most of the “PvPers”? Or maybe some of us look for genuinely good fights.

[drifting herald]

Oh it’s the server worker excuse …. Haha hahahahha

[fast tusk]

What are you talking about? All the established PvP guilds chose a server and let everyone know that if they care about PvP to come to it. You cant claim to be a pvp guild if you doged it

[wicked bone]

Mara please, its about to be a month, you arent actively playing just head out

[fast tusk]

3rd time its happened this phase. Literaly as soone as they failed their regroup push to clear us and they saw the rest of their boats would get destoryed they dropped the server long enough to get hella back up And then after they didnt say a word. TMX got them on the muzzle after they do shit like that

[drifting herald]

lol we didn’t exploit , it’s a mechanic , we didn’t lose it’s the server worker , we aren’t doing anything wrong it’s everyone else !

[wicked bone]

One day you guys will learn how to read

[cyan violet]

Really? All of us established oldheads chose a server and you dodged it huh? Is that how this works? I don’t want to fight easy fights.

[fast tusk]

Yes, i did dodge the old head server. You owned me

[wicked bone]

Showing you direct proof it happens on eu servers and mara goes silent

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/boston-bruins-wheel-of-excuses-gif-22883339

[wicked bone]

At this point just cope

[fast tusk]

A server worker crashing on an EU server isnt proof you arnt crashing them when it helps your guild holy fuck take a basic logic class

[drifting herald]

Yea you guys are coping

[wicked bone]

Wait you are actually braindead 😭

[drifting herald]

You say it everyday ! And you can’t silence me ever … ever ever ever ever ever !

[fast tusk]

Put TMXs muzzle back on and get back to PvE little doggy

[wicked bone]

The mighty black sails, did i make u upset

[drifting herald]

I hear classic wow is pretty cool! Oh wait they have to cheat at that too !

[fast tusk]

Please tell me how yall get washed so easy if we are so bad litteraly would have lost a whole fleet without ddoss

[wicked bone]

You sure love lying

[cyan violet]

I’ll assume you’re trolling, which is fair because it’s arena of words.

[wicked bone]

Wait bros actually upset over pixels 😭

[drifting herald]

What’s more believable, polar telling the truth or black sails lying ? Hmm

[fast tusk]

Thats fine. Ill assume your dodgeing because your not on resna

[wicked bone]

Mara hitting 25 has to be top 1 in that argument surely

[drifting herald]

Wdym I just leveled capped yesterday

[wicked bone]

Hell yeah gramps proud of you

[drifting herald]

20 baby , now what

[cyan violet]

Why do I give a shit about a guild that got dropped in three seconds when we fought? You guys need a lot of work.

[wicked bone]

Just 3 more months and youll finally be high enough to help srixun lose more ships

[drifting herald]

That’s your gotcha huh, let’s talk about resets and exploits, harboring scammers and rmt ?

[wicked bone]

https://tenor.com/view/akkubaba007-jerry-laugh-akku-fav-gif-gif-16150872697915744919

[fast tusk]

When did we fight you i dont even recognize your guild tag

[drifting herald]

Or how yall are actively trying to ruin the entire server cuz yall
Pissed everyone dunks on yall in global all day ! Fucking clowns and goofballs

[wicked bone]

Mara its okay to be upset over pixels, just log off next time and it wont hurt you anymore

[drifting herald]

Bro, pull up right now I bet you won’t

[wicked bone]

Sheesh youre so tough

[fast tusk]

You keep repeating the same insult. Telling people they are mad about pixels was a 10 year old joke in 2015. Please try harder. You sit in town and PvE all day, you got the time to come up with better material.

[wicked bone]

Damn you guys got me, keep typing me essays while i ragebait u

[drifting herald]

He’s a clown ain’t gonna do nothing but yap like a reeeee zoomer

[fast tusk]

Nah hes a little doggy whos told to PvE all day instead of being able to PvP with the guild. Got the shock collar and everything

[wicked bone]

Actually broken 😭

[inner prawn]

[wicked bone]

Surely you guys do something about it right

[topaz drum]

[fast tusk]

Zuko seething the rest of his guild isnt here to spam posts supporting him like they used to

Polar falling off? Weak propoganda, losing citys, losing their ships to RP pirate guilds?

[wicked bone]

Im actually laughing a lot this is funny, thanks guys

Flaccid ill be at jundark harbor if u wanna duel

[drifting herald]

Oh 100% he’s In guild comms crying

[wicked bone]

Im just a solo pver

[dense minnow]

whats polar's objective on destroying progression from 5 settlements? Is it just to be dicks?

[fast tusk]

First honest thing you have said today

[fast tusk]

Its polar what do you think taking their ball and going home

[drifting herald]

That’s exactly what it is , they BIG MAD

[dense minnow]

I mean, I'm not against that type of thing but at least have a reasonable reason for it. Seems like they are playing victims and inventing an enemy to do it

[slate current]

no lol. polar has reasons for what were doing. if yall cant figure it out, thats on you. its not to just grief the server.

[topaz drum]

polar secretly saving the server with their grand idea

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-cough-gif-6936526855177892860

Wonder when they going back to classic wow or Albion

[fast tusk]

Trying to protect your gear gap your terrifed to pvp without?

[slate current]

what gear gap? lmao

[dense minnow]

if they have a gear gap that would be hilarious cause they keep getting bodied by everyone

[fast tusk]

The one TMX keeps pming me about and how its more important to grind gold for gear than pvp

[dense minnow]

I'm assuming it has something to do with profitting of their chinese gold seller allies

[grim oracle]

Yup, it's a made up ghost coalition

[fast tusk]

They have a few geared people the rest of them are in rags. But their geared people fucking suck. Got leadhership flexing purples without knowing how to press buttons.

[fast tusk]

This is 100% true btw for anyone wondering. They protect chinese gold farmers and let them fish with them and they protect when they run mules.

[dense minnow]

its funny too cause they claim they are "clean" but they lost half their guild members when they refused to kick players like one griefer and one scammer

[fast tusk]

Got called the hard R by a guy who couldnt speak english while we held him at a port with his packs in storage untill polar memeber come over and flag up with them in a group to try to fight us off

[slate current]

lmaoooo. its actually not true, but thats cool. make up whatever shit you want to spin your "polar bad" narrative

[fast tusk]

I literaly have screenshots

[slate current]

youre literally being racist as fuck and publicly accusing them of being gold sellers because theyre chinese.

[dense minnow]

losing their entire crafting/economy team probably also contributed to their idea to destroy all the crafting stations. They don't have the ppl to do their crafting so they don't want anyone to craft

[fast tusk]

No i talked to the people, they talked in broken english and spammed slurs and talked about our mothers in chinese untill your guild memebrs came to help them. Your just lying or so uniformed about your guild you dont understand whats going on

[cyan violet]

Who fucking knows, waste of god given talent.

[slate current]

so that automatically makes them gold sellers. got it

[fast tusk]

yes the lvl 15 players who dont speak english who run packs all day are gold sellers. Are you new to MMOs? do you think they just love running packs underlvled for 8 hours a day?

[slate current]

they spend more time sport fishing with us than running packs lmao.

[wicked bone]

i love nice people

[fast tusk]

Why would you self report

[slate current]

but sure. they dont speak english and they do the only 2 gold making activities in the game. MUST BE GOLD SELLERS.

stay fucking racist @fast tusk

[grizzled widget]

They’re gold sellers because they multibox at mountain lions and train packs from Avens to Briar all day. Don’t care what their language is.

[fast tusk]

Actually yes. Sorry you never played an MMO before. Cry racism because your to stupid to defend the scummy shit your guild is doing.

[dense minnow]

I mean, gold selling is nothing compared to what some of their actual members are up to, literal criminal activities

[inner prawn]

is that the play to make gold?

[grizzled widget]

Most of those people are also probably children

[slate current]

its only the play if you speak english. if you dont speak english, youre gold selling. right @fast tusk

[grizzled widget]

If you hate yourself, yes

The people spamming that shit for hours on end at level 5 are not real players lol

[wicked bone]

Yea true why is black sails always running white/green crates

[fast tusk]

Wait guys maybe im wrong. Maybe all these low lvl players farming gold all day actually just love running caravans. They love being in shit gear dispite all the gold they are making. They dont pvp, they dont lvl to compete in pvp, they just love seeing gold stack up in their inventory and pay for protection to do it. Holy fuck great point @slate current your really smart

[slate current]

or maybe they do it because its easy, has no dr, has no risk, and lets them buy gear for their main?

[grizzled widget]

Lmao

[inner prawn]

perfect thanks

[fast tusk]

they made lvl 15 alts to run caravans to trade money to their main? holy fuck my guy stop digging the hole deeper. Your guild protects gold farmers, theres no getting around it

[slate current]

why not? its literally printing gold with ZERO risk

[fast tusk]

why would they make an alt????

[grizzled widget]

For an alpha that wipes every 2-4 months lmao. No one is doing that shit every day for hours on end that isn’t selling it.

[inland crater]

idk what you all are talking about but yes if you don't speak english you are selling gold it's a well known fact of MMOs

(wait til you learn that actually are buying more gold than they sell)

[slate current]

because you get exp from turning in crates.

[fast tusk]

Your making this so much worse every time you reply

[slate current]

why would you not want both gold and exp on an alt at the same time? like are you actually room temp iq?

[drifting herald]

Imagine that , everything they touch turns to shit ! SHIT !

[fast tusk]

They need more muzzles. All these guys that talk just expose them so much more.

[slate current]

dude straight up said theyre chinese and want to make gold, so theyre gold sellers. and doesnt think thats racist as fuck lmao

[fast tusk]

What % of the Chinese playerbase on resna running crates under lvl 20 do you think are gold sellers?

[inner prawn]

bro nobody cares stfu

A clown like your entire guild stop yapping dummy

[fast tusk]

What do you do here besides cry?

[rough silo]

Dont pay much attention to Solv, hes rper that bring IRL into here because he has not nothing meagningful ingame.

[inner prawn]

I win every MMO

[fast tusk]

Then play instead of being a whinny bitch in discord or go play a game you dont need to cry about

[inner prawn]

cry about what bitch?

[drifting herald]

Archeage chronicles when ? Shits looking dope af

[inner prawn]

it kinda does honestly

[drifting herald]

Hopefully they add some form of PvP via arenas or some shit

[fast tusk]

Bro trying to pull a jesse smolett and make gold farming a race issue

[inner prawn]

@fast tusk bro you guys are dogshit stop trying to bark up above your level kid.

[rough silo]

is grey waiting for ashes to be p2w to start playing?

[grizzled widget]

Grey would be bored out of their minds playing this. Not enough PvP yet

[slate current]

legit question -- yalls discord back up? its fucked that it got deleted, ngl

[inner prawn]

https://massivelyop.com/2025/08/01/interview-archeage-chronicles-xlgames-on-housing-pvp-launch-and-its-mmo-nature/

[rough silo]

If you're asking the old one, nah discord is investigating.

[slate current]

hopefully theyre able to help yall restore it.

[inner prawn]

we are farming

[inner prawn]

duh

[drifting herald]

Yall are reskinned POLARz , fake polar

[wicked bone]

maras biggest achievement, being in polar hell yea

[rough silo]

just like you.

[drifting herald]

Safe to say I’m the biggest the largest !

[wicked bone]

hell yea bam u should join too

[rough silo]

Denied too many invites thank you for trying.

[wicked bone]

sheesh too cool for all of us i see

[drifting herald]

Technically….. Polars biggest achievement was when I had the tag ! Now yall back to being shitty ! Sucks to suck bro

[wicked bone]

got us there nice one mara

[grizzled widget]

Idk the whole stealing tags thing is stupid

[drifting herald]

It is / was , but it made for the best fucking memes ever

[grim oracle]

Did you give it back?

[wicked bone]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-new-year-happynewyear-celebrations-hny-gif-12942884230896904024

[oblique fossil]

Plenty pvp in with sportfishing. Anywhere else? Nah

[grizzled widget]

I was referring more to the level of the competition.

[fast tusk]

The water PvP has been fun and shows the game can be really fun these gameplay loops. They just need lawless areas expanded, and we need the rotating pvp POIs with increased rates or something

[grizzled widget]

I agree. the PvP zones was a good idea around POIs

[oblique fossil]

They got rid of it because ppl hated it. Corruption zones is supposed to replace it

[fast tusk]

Every gathering skill/ farming method needs the PvP loops and large scale gold and resource sinks for node stuff before the game will be able to mainitain its population

Let me go kill giant rock moneters in a pvp zone we can mine that give a bunch of extra quality or something

[oblique fossil]

Again, corruption zones are that. It's coming soon I fuckin hope

[slate current]

same. i dont want to have to hit rocks until i get purple procs. i want to farm corrupted zones so i can upgrade blue to heroic to purple

[oblique fossil]

The conversion is fast too. 27 blue to leggo. 9 heroic to leggo. 3 purple to leggo

[fast tusk]

The rotating POIs could be better recived if they were done better. Having lvl limits for flagging based on the lvls of the mobs so 25s cant clear areas like RoS and noticeable gear drop increases i think would be popular.

integrating PvP while lvling should be a major focus.

[slate current]

thats WAY too fast imo. id be okay with a 10:1 ratio i think.

[opaque sluice]

@drifting herald has hairy nipples and smells like cheap beer.

[drifting herald]

It’s true , you rubbed them and drank my lone star light !

[graceful mortar]

You two should just get a room together…

And play Texas holdem.

[drifting herald]

Fuck that, spin the bottle is better , you should play

[graceful mortar]

Can’t. My bottle is only here so I don’t have to abandon the raid.

Spinning it is not advisable.

[humble juniper]

Texas holdem comes after spin the bottle

[opaque sluice]

@drifting herald is the only polarslunt I like. @cyan violet is in Winstead. I’m gonna bake him a cake

[flat furnace]

[void scarab]

[opaque sluice]

Otters are furries. Disgusting furries.

[oblique fossil]

youre forgetting you need the corrupted excotria. you are also forgetting its full lawless and people will gank and steal mats.

[slate current]

thats what im excited for.

[limpid roost]

Does anyone have the screenshot of the guild chat from POLAR where they all admitted to not being able to bench over 100lbs?

[grizzled magnet]

it's polar not ebc bro

[grizzled widget]

I’m talking about the gold sellers lol

[humble coral]

so dose anyone know if voteing is actualy 9 days or will it end early cuz its never been this long right?

[trail mulch]

To fuck the voting coalition coming to steal new aela mostly it isn't a slight against the server despite what some may think their just kinda collateral damage. Though we shan't forget that alot of y'all were saying the buildings weren't gonna be built in the first place so to be mad about them being destroyed is kinda funny

[rough silo]

You got jokes huh

[rancid stirrup]

Its standard. 5 days to enroll for election, 5 days to vote. The only 24h elections are the initial ones and if someone drops citizenship/ is banned

[slate current]

why you bringing overmeta into this?

[inland crater]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[cyan violet]

I'm not concerned with Resna 8)

[wicked bone]

when will this guy stop lying

[south wadi]

So happy to be a Polar member the best guild on Ashes 😎

[rough silo]

Do you have proof thats not you?

[wicked bone]

yea but that would leak my alts name

[dense minnow]

one of them being zluko

[rough silo]

And thats a issue why?

[wicked bone]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-duck-smoke-smoking-twitter-duck-gif-1365401141084093497

Pretty sure zluko is some russian guy from steel and flame

@limpid karma

[inner prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452824087142469715/1456103564559519898/video-936_1_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6957259e&is=6955d41e&hm=050fda8f58777b06e1e739b9a8459a06583648c7e9740714f308b6deab166f37&

😈

[wicked bone]

my nemesis

[earnest garden]

that man regretted everything he just did.

[oblique fossil]

picking up my fish crate and not getting flag is crazy work intrepid.

[coarse fossil]

The real diss, ouch I feel that lol

[coarse fossil]

I respect the electoral shenanigans

[lilac harness]

100%. Interacting with a fish tank and staying unflagged is, also, wild. Flag anyone who interacts with any type of crate.

[fluid tusk]

Happy New Year everyone!

[inner prawn]

😈

[fluid tusk]

Happy new year hyyez!!!!

[inner prawn]

Happy New Year Zara!!

[mental tusk]

Happy new years!

[fluid tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-kid-club-gif-9152583

@nocturne lintel happy new yearrrr!

@fossil crypt happyyy new yearrrr!

@steep furnace happpy new yearrr DA !!!!!

[earnest garden]

happy new years Zara you queen!

[fluid tusk]

happppy new year!!!!!!!!!

@hallow hare Happy newww yeear!

[hallow hare]

https://tenor.com/view/new-year-2022-gif-24334949

[fluid tusk]

what other og's to ping

[steep furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-year-new-year-happynewyear-celebrations-hny-gif-12942884230896904024

[void scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-cat-happy-happy-new-year-new-year-gif-12373965

[inner prawn]

Happy New Year pal!!!

[drifting herald]

Happy new years guys all beefs aside i apprecaite each and everyone one of yall , even the stinky ones ! 2026 is going to be great !

[hallow hare]

u suck

Dysfunctional fucking AoC family I’ve been trapped with for years. ❤️ uwu.

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/alexis-rose-gif-6689866510033848265

[hollow comet]

@devout void

[turbid vale]

https://tenor.com/view/z04c-2025-2026-67-gif-14211159619382817166

[cyan violet]

I just wanted to remind you all that you’re getting old.

Not me though I age like top shelf whiskey.

[plush storm]

Everyone in here is stinky, because I doubt any of you took a shower yet this year.

[fresh cliff]

VOTING COALITION FOR SERVER HEALTH | NA-SOVEREIGN | WINSTEAD-SRIXUN | HALCYON-THUNDER | SUNHAVEN-WUMPUS | JOEVA-ATHETO | MIRALETH-GAGO | SEAHOOK-BATER |

[coarse fossil]

How rude! And accurate

[keen zenith]

showers are overrated.

[fading hollow]

https://youtu.be/6gV9tqKKkOU?si=ruYiZvaKWtHFFGP7

[grizzled widget]

That was a sick ult at 45 seconds. Love that it’s working now and not getting clipped on rocks

[foggy locust]

Probs using it to exploit/RMT haha

[foggy locust]

Jokes on you I was showering when Jan 1st hit. Can safely say I took the first shower of 2026 in the World.

[plush storm]

I will grant you a "partial" shower, because it wasn't completely within 2026.

[foggy locust]

Ahaha

[wicked bone]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-cat-cat-freaky-cat-freaky-tongue-freaky-cat-tongue-freaky-tongue-gif-11560619178986255398

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-3303958103617173556

[lean wedge]

Knowledge and skill gap = rmt exploit

[fast tusk]

They openly protect gold farmers on their mains. They just use the alts for their cringe propoganda and spying lol

[drifting herald]

Define skill gap with context , do you mean like pushing buttons faster or reading ability tool tips ? Just curious

[lean wedge]

Reading tool tips in general. Looks like most players cannot do that

[lilac harness]

We need more new player influx because old players don't read tool tips.

[drifting herald]

What a gorgeous day outside today , 70f with no clouds ! Imma go bass fishing at the park , need to stop by academy and grab some swim baits

[foggy locust]

No, physical proof in screenshots and videos showing the exploits being done, ban waves targetting mostly the same people, again the same people stopping play when exploits get found and patched.

[lean wedge]

Do you have any proof of that?

[foggy locust]

The proof is literally all over in screenshots and videos, just scroll up.

[lean wedge]

I see. Got gaped so they must be exploiting concept

[foggy locust]

No clue what that means, but if it's a dig at me.. I don't no life alpha tests. I jump in, play for a few hours, test some skills that catch my eye and I dip.

[calm saddle]

Happy new year AoC gamers, cheers to this game being everything we want it to be and us all making memes and memories when it comes out.

[steep furnace]

Complaining about alts, propaganda and spying.

Truly baby’s first PvP MMORPG

[foggy widget]

silence plebs, the ark & atlas dark rp gamers are talking

[foggy locust]

Calm down Sam Bankman-Fried

Oh wait.. scratch that.. he actually got more than a few grand out of people before scumming his entire reputation.

[steep furnace]

Oh I’m so hurt you believe propaganda. Nooooo

[foggy locust]

Why the disappearance and subsequent name change?

also I've seen you chat for almost a decade my guy, when you'd get drunk you'd spill the beans on your "plans in motion" and Hermione would have to do major damage control 😛

Elfche, not Hermione.

That's what I get for reading Harry Potter for 5 hours straight ahaha

[steep furnace]

Lung transplant and medical issues with my mom.

Name because you should never link MMO accounts to your main discord/Steam for “reasons” I’m sure you can guess

Btw anyone in here who linked their ashes to their main steam…

Congrats you played yourself

[foggy locust]

Hope your Mother is doing okay irregardless of this kerfuffle.

[steep furnace]

Actually doing well, her body didn’t reject the new organ and has been doing well in recovery.

[foggy locust]

Nah, haven't linked my account to my steam. Staying "launcher only" haha

good to hear, hope she kicks ass and recovers 110% 🙂

[steep furnace]

Smart man

Shoot me a DM I got some good tea as to why.

[sick oar]

Man why have I not been sued in Ashes yet. I'm slacking

[drifting herald]

Wait till they get a hold of your email and spam cc signups and password resets , then you can be the suer !

[earnest garden]

Use more capitalized letters.

[rancid stirrup]

Agreed. Ryve has been slacking the last few weeks

[earnest garden]

He went soft after being User19373662 or something.

[oblique fossil]

surely we will get the corruption flowchart event this month ya @robust wedge?

ya know like the whole point of this "engines of chaos" "harbinger update"?

[inland crater]

I heard harbringers rewards are going to get nerfed because they're too OP

same with sports fishing in lawless, too much pvp is happening causing the SW to crash so they'll need to nerf the gold generated

[sick oar]

Oh behind the scenes many are mad at me always, as nature intended

[sick mantle]

I heard EBC got that dupe tech. I want hundreds of epic and legendary carcasses too.

[lilac harness]

Truth. Let me get my shopping list together and send it to them.

[inland crater]

EBC wouldn’t dupe they’re good people

[rough silo]

Yes we dupe here

[stable rose]

so much so you actually built buildings in Joeva! how dare ya!

[humble juniper]

Actually, does the harbinger event(s) allow trespass yet? Or is the bug that youb
step foot and then randomly flag up later still happening? I want to get forked- i mean, look at the enemies

[rough silo]

Just go in without mats n etc and look? It aint chernobyl.

[sick mantle]

depends where you go theres some areas that have a stacking DoT that will fuck you up

[humble juniper]

Now that you mention it, that shit DOES look radioactive but nah i was worried about the random flagging bug most of all. Don't want to suddenly get jipped by guards while in town

[humble juniper]

That sounds like my average spicy dish

[drifting herald]

I did fresh ground sirloin burgers on the griddle with some grilled onions and bacon wrapped jalapeños

[inner prawn]

Looks and sounds good

[drifting herald]

yea butcher had brough it out and my wife was looking at ground chuck 80/20 and i said nope im getting this 😄

[humble juniper]

F*ck yeah. Put some creamcheese in those jalapeños and you have jalapeño poppers

[weak robin]

i also would love epic rosarium on my cleric too

[sick mantle]

Best EBC quote when they bought a leggo carc:

"You only buying one?"
EBC guy - "That's all I need :)"

[weak robin]

To give some context to this, for the past week until roughly last 2 days, well actually over a week, my guild has been the only one visible one + Shanks from Amnesty and one Overmeta guy
But those two have not farmed as much otters as we have.
For my 220 common otters i had 3 legendaries and 3 epics.

To craft epic rosarium full set 51 carcasses. Now i can understand upscaling with tanning but lets be honest here, even heroic drop rates are quite abyssmal.

Above is the photo of my gatherings alone.

So even with upscaling the heroic carcasses which are still minimal to the 0 people i've seen from that guild farming otters.

• A extremely large amount of zing armour plating.

This is stupid. Additionally the Lure cheesing too which surely intrepid will take action right.......

My guild has counted 20 people with epic rosarium sets

If they have to wipe to recover the rampant botting, lure logging, Epic Rosarium raining from the sky then the server is dead due to harbingers not even really existing right now.
They better have good logs to track this sht!

[sick mantle]

Even if you RMT to buy shit it doesn't explain the abundance of high rarity carcasses. They are either duping themselves or buying duped mats from the Chinese.

[cyan violet]

The logs float.

[grand lily]

joeva market when you search legendary carcass has so many otters. I don't do hunting, but there are more otters than any other type of carcass for sale. Seems weird

[drifting herald]

they did have creme chesse

[spiral spindle]

what the fuck

[drifting herald]

HEB makes them in packages sometimes the jalapenos are hot af tho

[lean wedge]

Nah bro if u really grinded it from the launch its possible to make 20 sets

[weak robin]

I think if we neglected leveling, and had 3 people full time farming otters from the get go, we would have a full set of epic rosarium with maybe the possibility of 1 legendary piece, idk.

[lean wedge]

yeah more like hired chinese bots to farm it for u

[weak robin]

Even with paying RMT for farming you'd still not get it
There's definitely a dupe

[drifting herald]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxaBx5hwEsvVndj2GirLwxHwF2tDBghj_j?si=OI1MgKjpym_owtKp

[humble juniper]

TWENTY rosarium sets? Yeah no, they duping somewhere

[weak robin]

I thought they were joking or over exageratting but we asked for screenshots for each person they've seen, all different people...

[humble juniper]

Damn 💀

Its too bad intrepid doesnt hire any gms to invis and follow cheaters around maybe they can learn something more than just our spam of bug reports

[weak robin]

It's really annoying me how long they let it go on before action, hence the requirement of a wipe last phase and the disregard for legitimate crafts.
The amount of f'n work required last phase for our guild to craft full heroic rosethorn/rosarium for the entire guild was a wild effort.

Then wipe cause lack of action with no bans for any reported accounts.

[rancid stirrup]

Just curious how you confirm they're epic sets?

[sick mantle]

Doubt anything happens. And there won't be a wipe for a while because they dont wan't to derail the steam train for a while.

[sick mantle]

Set bonus % is 24% it scales with rarity

[rancid stirrup]

Gotcha. Forgot that shows on the buffs

[rough silo]

why hide?

[weak robin]

Cant show names in ashes discord for like a report/shame reason.

[rough silo]

Oh yea they have that dumb thing

[lilac harness]

Not have that guild tag so you can cheat with impunity. Rest of the server can do whatever they want, swipe, dupe, exploit, etc. Polar using in game systems to their current extent? Public outrage.

[lucid galleon]

I hear Polar drinks milk straight from the carton then puts it back in the fridge

Disgusting

[lilac harness]

Polar often tells me they aren't hungry and not to order them anything only to get upset and give me the silent treatment when I don't get them anything.

[rough silo]

No wonder the koolaid milk ppl drink in polar gets them into auto follow zombie mode.

[gusty mural]

EEZ guy has been duping zinc and copper ingots for days now. Will intrepid even do anything about it?

[drifting herald]

anyone gonna check out https://www.thewitcher.com/us/en/witcher4

[hasty gyro]

Be the change you want to see in the game, kill the chinese crate runners between Avons and Briarmoore

[inner prawn]

they keep my gold prices cheap 😈

[inner prawn]

but yea shit is so fucked in prices on Shol

[scarlet pier]

Actually this man. I pointed this out like 3 weeks ago and everyone said it wasn’t gonna be a problem….now it’s a prooooblem.

[hasty gyro]

They are duping Lego materials for Lego briarmoore crates

[scarlet pier]

We have hit peak ridiculousness

We actually haven’t at all.

[dawn tangle]

I think there are some instances where they do, but I bet they've all been away for the holidays

[grand lily]

Has someone done a cs ticket for the duping?

[fair roost]

? A group of lvl 3s dropping 30 Lego crates is very realistic what do you mean!!!

[earnest garden]

Send the screenshots

[grizzled widget]

they are very industrious

[flat furnace]

Does anyone actually know who's doing it? Unfortunately putting in a ticket saying them there Chinese are ruining everything probably doesn't do much

[agile ivy]

There’s no way that they’re unaware of the issue 😅

[flat furnace]

Oh sure intrepid could find out I'm just curious if anyone here has a more narrow accusation than those damn Chinese did it.

As long as geeee remains safe we can clear out whoever else is guilty. Geeee is a national treasure and must be protected.

[agile ivy]

Geeee?

[flat furnace]

Geeetank fearless leader of Jiu Feng and #1 shit talker world wide

I actually don't know if he is the leader or just an officer but he calls people stupid birds and I love him.

[sick oar]

@feral hollow Is back?

[flat furnace]

I don't think he ever left

[sick oar]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[agile ivy]

As a joke I copy pasted some Chinese from Google Translate at a guy I thought was botting and got a whisper back in Chinese 😅

[flat furnace]

He doesn't know you at all. Beast in clothes..... Everyone knows RYVE is a naked beast.

[grizzled widget]

Pure poetry

[sick oar]

@feral hollow we need u

[grizzled widget]

drop some bars

[ocean kraken]

gg its go time

[keen zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[agile ivy]

Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these screenshots were fake or stuff from the PTR 😅

[rugged apex]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1456673081807601684

[spiral spindle]

No sir lol theyve been caught with the set bonuses in game. If theyre duping mats for epic, theyre def duping mats for lego

Also who would keep those ptr screenshots if boosts were up everyone was running the higher ilevel sets

[flat furnace]

Good thing they are back to work in 3 days. Surely nothing bad will happen before then

[agile ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-cooked-we-are-cooked-gg-ggs-gif-10973716785212391451

I know everyone here likes to say “wipe hype” and other meme shit…but that’s not on the menu this time around.

They’re actually gonna have to unfuck the game.

We’re in pretty different waters now from previous phases.

[keen zenith]

They have already said they have tech to remove shit

[flat furnace]

Oh ya they can't do another emergency wipe..... Which is why the phase should have started next week....... They learned literally nothing from last year's disaster

[spiral spindle]

Honestly, no point doing it now, they have a lot of game breaking shit to add first. Wait for them to finish harby, node destruction and whatever else they missed on the roadmap. Also raise level cap to 30 since they havent tested anything balance related. THEN they can wipe

[agile ivy]

They’ve never actually done it at scale though…sure they removed some item drops that were overturned but gold in an economy is tricky.

They’ve never unfucked the economy before. They always relied on a wipe.

This’ll be a test for sure.

[rough silo]

Dude am using trump memes where we gone...

[spiral spindle]

I dont think they can do anything about this other than wipe, if the china tech is correct, their duped mats have been laundered into legit gold. Same with the mats for the rosarium armor. The armor itself will look legitimate since itll have a new item id when crafted

[agile ivy]

“No way bro it could be anyone….racist Americans smh”

It’s probably Bryce and Tanner in Portland doing it. 😫

Some guy left a YouTube comment unironically saying that lol

[flat furnace]

By the time they get around to it there will be no way to stop it.... They can ban some accounts but the items will have spread and been traded so many times they will not be able to fix it or at least not without totally fucking many innocent people who bought items or sold items to shit accounts.

[spiral spindle]

Bryce and tanner in portland can make more money working at mcdonalds. This has South america/Asia written all over it given how their labor force values their time

[agile ivy]

I was being sarcastic lol. All of these people doing these operations work out of low wage countries. For both the labor and that it’s harder to litigate against them.

[rough silo]

Ban IP China, character reset on the disposable income dudes and we will have a happy 2026...

[agile ivy]

Banning 5% of the buyers would have a massive impact.

[rough silo]

Nah let them throw their money into the wind it hurts more

Like jail right, whats more painful 10~15years in a cell or chair? I think the cell is worse... So just a fresh click wipe character and go on with their day, also i mean full reset the levels as well.

[agile ivy]

All of the people that RMT and exploit do it because there aren’t real consequences.

I know multiple people who openly talk about swiping in this game and didn’t get actioned.

Maybe they got lucky but seeing people bragging about it is just crazy lol.

[rough silo]

I dont disagree but a wiped character is like a scar. "physical reminder"

[agile ivy]

If ashes actually enforces RMT they’ll be the first mmo to do it in a long time.

Most of these games don’t enforce or sell the power themselves.

I’m willing to give a first time full account wipe for small time first offenders assuming they have no priors.

The only thing they’d be keeping is $40 or potentially cosmetics.

[sick oar]

RYVE was the racist one for war decking Geeeeeeeee every day in P2 😂 and calling him a RMTer. Now everyone is on the same page.

[rough silo]

[agile ivy]

It’s fun to meme the sellers and sink their ships…but the real problem is the buyers.

[rough silo]

I was mocking Polar/Enveus daily about their alliance with Jiufeng wym

[sick oar]

Oh I know haha. RYVE remembers

Penfang Alliance hahahahahaha

[spiral spindle]

gonna spend all my gold enchanting my level 23 weapon to bait people

[ocean kraken]

we all have thousands of hours boys, everyone that matters know exactly whats going on in that screenshot

[rough silo]

The only enchanted weapon I know is blessed and Storm

[spiral spindle]

you guys are just mad he got funneled by his entire guild that have been hitting rocks since day 1

[agile ivy]

Unfortunately I’ve seen some folks in lawless looking a lot like that guy. I did notice the Carphin armor but didn’t think to look for a weapon enchant.

[drifting herald]

Wait what happened ? Who’s cheating ?

[agile ivy]

It was also that same guild lol…I don’t want to say for sure because I’d need to be back home to look at the footage.

But there are some geared folks in EBC lol.

[rough silo]

This guy

[spiral spindle]

[sick mantle]

Epic+ rosarium PHYS gear is bis for Clerics now in case you didn't know

[agile ivy]

Actually fucking crazy

Please send me crazy screenshots like this.

These people are basically rage hacking…they’re gonna get banned.

[spiral spindle]

i smell a youtube video

[sick mantle]

@weak robin I think Ironhand and his bois have a ton of SS of this.

[agile ivy]

I already had one cooking in my brain before this popped off…I also had footage that I originally didn’t think was THAT suspicious (could be sweaty players) but now with this new information I will review it when I get home.

[sick mantle]

I think its possible for 1-2 players to get this gear. But the lack of high rarity caracasses and a ton of these EBC kids having the sets is so sus lmfao

[flat furnace]

Wait so the coalition to exterminate exploiters is uhhhh exploiting.

[spiral spindle]

no man you dont get it, theyre polar members in disguise

[sick mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/who-wouldve-thought-not-me-who-would-have-thought-gif-21140374

[spiral spindle]

lets see if certain people keep their same morally righteous energy

[south wadi]

The voting coalition is duping lego and epic mats for epic rosarium, every accusation is a confession type shit

[spiral spindle]

no polar tags on them so you wont see nearly half the fervor here or global and this is 100x worse than carphin dropping too many items 💀

at least intrepid could delete those, they cant with these unless for some reason EBC was stupid enough to dupe the armor itself

[agile ivy]

The EBC clowns will get dealt with easily. China is a much harder issue.

[spiral spindle]

the amount of money intrepid is gonna have to spend to stop it

[agile ivy]

I have had some suspicious interactions with them in lawless for sure. I still have some of the footage.

[inland crater]

show me an MMO that has solved RMT and botting and I'll show you a flying pig (its AI)

[spiral spindle]

u right, stop was not the right word. more like slow down at best

[inland crater]

Yeah best they can do is slow it down where it isn't so prevalent and people are so unabashedly doing it

[sick oar]

WTB Epic Rosarium set 5s

[flat furnace]

Every eastern MMO solved it....... Don't let players sell power just do it your damn self

[agile ivy]

I can get you a deal on a legendary set.

[agile ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-day-tired-exhausted-not-in-the-mood-fell-gif-14702202838034199043

[spiral spindle]

its definitely an interesting conversation. As a company if its really that unstoppable and prevalent, do you 1.) burn millions in a futile effort to curb it or 2.) sell it yourself and use the money people spend to develop more content for the game

[lilac harness]

EBC apps are going to fly through the roof. Free set of epic rosarium guard, regardless of class, with acceptance.

[spiral spindle]

word? im joining today. My mage needs a new set of heavy armor

[agile ivy]

You can’t stop it but you can really slow it by banning buyers

[lilac harness]

We should all apply.

[spiral spindle]

yeah buyers need to get perma'd for sure as a start

[agile ivy]

Imma laugh if we enter a new meta where the Chinese fight back the mule killers with BiS gear

Leveling is probably the only thing stopping them

I hate to theory craft such a nightmarish scenario…but what if the Chinese employed the locust strategy…full LEGENDARY caravans…we couldn’t kill them all?

The new meta?

That’s so much hp to chew through

[lilac harness]

A cleric in full epic rosarium guard with a grilled cheese on? they're going to have like 15k health.

[spiral spindle]

i will look at every chinese tank and summoner with newfound scrutiny

[flat furnace]

It would crash the servers

We couldn't even cross a border with 25 mules without a full server crash

[steep furnace]

We had 8 people jump 6 of us in the water and it crashed the server worker

[flat furnace]

[limber pond]

Almost 1 month in guess it's time for the cataclysm that forces a 3 month wipe

[sick mantle]

see yall in Feb fresh 🫡

[hasty gyro]

@novel turret Were yall able to store any crates inside Aith pre level 3 ? Asking for a friend

[sick oar]

I stored crates in your mom

[hasty gyro]

Kinda ruins the whole concept of prestoring crates in adjacent harbors/nodes to then rush before crate DRs hit if you can just sit it at the storage (was not possible in other nodes btw)

[keen zenith]

I'd hope everyone can agree that this type of shit fucks the game for everyone and needs to be handled, regadless of guild tag.

[grand lily]

I see some afk summoners sitting on robed stranger spawns by lionshold. They are level 11. (The mob is level 3)

[lilac harness]

Polar and vice were just idiots for not storing their crates in aith and turning them in safely once the city popped. That's obviously intended. /s

[steep furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/forehead-slap-slapping-forehead-oh-my-god-gif-13308042

[fast tusk]

Guild leadership needs perma bans for duping like this. There is 0 way you have your members that geared out without knowing whats going on. Perma ban all buyers too. So tired of weak moderation killing the game

[earnest canopy]

Just ban anyone who’s touched gear like this

[flat furnace]

They did that in p2 and it was a shitshow..... Since they didn't start throwing bans until 2 weeks into the problem much like what's going to happen here innocent people were getting clapped because the shit had changed hands 3-4 times.

[fast tusk]

If your buying an epic or legendary set of that gear rn you know its duped. Fuck them too, just ban this shit

[keen zenith]

Steven just needs to nuke it today. They bragged about their new tool to delete shit without a server restart... use it.

[rancid stirrup]

Iirc there was only like 4 people banned wrongly no?

[hushed grove]

Exploit early, exploit often.

Until companies take themselves seriously, exploit early / often is always the best advice.

[lilac harness]

If you have all of this data and can confirm even one instance of it, shut down the servers. Why are they still up?

[flat furnace]

For sure most of the bans were legit but there were some folks who just bought gear off the market and woke up to a ban

[rancid stirrup]

Might be talking about different bank waves then xD

[flat furnace]

I'm talking about hornhexer gate

[cyan violet]

We have a Horngexer on top of an Ottergate on the forums?

[flat furnace]

What'd we do?

[cyan violet]

Resna has the Ottergate going on.

[flat furnace]

Oh ya NPC otters. I thought we were in trouble again

[grizzled widget]

or just go the GW2/FF14 route where gear literally doesn't fucking matter

[flat furnace]

Don't fuck with people's glam..... Ultimate clears still get sold all the time I believe been a couple years since I paid attention to 14.

[inner prawn]

That would be nice

[grizzled widget]

who cares. people buying clears does not impact the game overall at all