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I don’t like breakpoints for haste. I’d rather CD reduction, faster ticks or have 30% dot rollover type stuff etc. lots of little things missing
Nimble being one of the only reactive defensives in the game made it fair imo. You spend a cd to trip. I spend a cd to cleanse. Equal trade
I think you can cleanse some silences still, like I'm pretty sure I cleansed silence from chains of suffocation that the enemy dunir do
Cleansing cc also still resets DRs
still will never not be funny to me the entire reason to trinket said cd just gets reset by trinketing
vice admiral Plixxer down o7
I’ve noticed that for the basics. It takes a lot of attack speed to shave .1 off.
I think in game ui is just rounding and that it does go out further decimals
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I thought that was city of heroes at first
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giga based, sad some of those games failed. I respect the originality and creativity of games from that era. now we get recycled slop
It’s good in PvE, but the problem with this is that it’s easy to just sit on 10 stacks of resonance before combat even starts in PvP, and the TTK is so low in ZvZ that it’s easier to just sit in the back dancing your way back to 10 stacks and then hitting someone with your longbow than actually putting a rotation on someone where you’re at risk of being chain pulled
a bird flew into my house and literally shit on my Crowfall collector's edition
It’s why I stopped playing bard but I chose to try it again this phase because playing cleric this phase would be even more painful.
All the deep thinking around bard is reduced to just jesting yourself a mile away from the fight and just engaging from 35m with longbow
Trying to do anything fun just gets you blown up in 2 seconds
Nah, I used to always be part of the dives, drop two stacks of resonance into people, swap to cheerful, cleanse or cc others move back a little. But I always go 3/5 heavy/light
I also have basically never used longbow. It's good for certain things, but not necessary
We’ll see how this phase goes, but I have my doubts
I just dislike the slow movement of longbow. Wand was always my go to, but on ptr there was a book with power and healing power waterfall stats
I wanna just keep fucking around with my ptr build, it was so nice
I just hope staff is good
Yeah I wanna know too. With how magic shit has been seemingly not available in game, we need some more
did you not get the swtor one ?
Gonna be honest if bard BiS is a fucking spell book I am re-rolling
Bis is a made up lie for weapons. Gear? Probably is true.
There's a long bow with a large power waterfall stat too
Idk I’m just targeting sunfire stonebind for now and will figure out if this server implodes before 26/29 weapons are relevant
Resna? Is this actually just Resna arena of words?
i have the swtor box yea, but not a CE
yeah. all the other servers are friendly and peaceful. keep polar over there forever pls
Who's the biggest though? If Ryve is not a bigger freak than @forest quarry I riot
you will always be the superior red ❤️
typical ashes enjoyer
so many "i'm going to report you" whiners on this game tbh
gonna say bad words then report me lol
"I ran a gigaloaded farm cart solo at level 15 through war time Yny. I'm reporting you for killing me" types
I had someone say keep your self safe for asking them to kill me
sovereign wins by a mile, you never faked my DMs to try to get me banned
fuck. Alright I will try harder
Lmao I was the third one to send that dm. He still think Im the originator of it.
I love his hatred though. MORE!
200 deaths to a bunch of lvl 12s damn polar
@rigid crow why you being weird?
@feral hollow
@halcyon ridge stop being cringe in a streamers chat
im new to the game how can show me the ropes ?
cringe? what have i said that is cringe? i was being extra polite.
@feral hollow Come back pls. We need you. And Alec
Im more up to date with NA aoc drama than NA politics. Can't miss out on my dose
I upset some BR players, can anyone translate this for me?
You are 1000% on a watch list.
had a few friends quit the game in p2 because they finally got the gear they wanted and had nothing else to grind for. The low end crafting right now is too expensive in terms of time/benefit and the high end crafting isn't compelling enough to stick through a long grind which gets circumvented by gold farming.
The endgame/final tier crafting needs to be gated by something that can't be bought other than time invested by the player.
did they start speaking spanish in Brasil? I missed that.
The early game crafting is worthless. Idk why the materials are so high for lower level gear. It gets replaced immediately and has zero actual value.
Putting the material requirement to like 2-3 of each thing would do zero harm to the game.
By the time you craft all lvl 10 gear, you could be 25 with full radiant
Having basic gear be easy to craft while high end gear takes longer would be a good move.
Like crafting erenor gear from AA, takes months to get a full set and then even longer to work it up. Granted it is full end game gear, but it was worth it in the end.
There should be an incentive to craft everything, as it stands now, pretty worthless.
I’m also all for a little blurb on the item saying “crafted by”, I have always thought that was a good thing to have on everything.
It takes like 15 minutes max to gather the materials for thornbound weapons. If they can’t handle that, this isn’t the game for them. It actually takes longer processing the materials than it does gathering them.
Unless we’re talking about making high rarity 13s, which is just not smart for weapons you’ll replace for 23s by the end of this week.
You make grey/green 13s, green/blue 23s, and save your high tier mats for 26/29 weapons. I didn’t think it was that complicated?
And saying early game crafting is worthless when the NPE gives casters the choice of only a wand with no focus and a spell book is a crazy comm. If I grinded to 25 using only a spell book I would’ve lost my mind
I mean the destiny weapons also make most low level crafting worthless.
Multiple parts to it tbh
how's the new corruiption stuff so far?
They don’t because, again, casters can only use spell books from them. You can pick a wand but there’s no focus.
Spell book is awesome, I don’t understand the hate for them.
But that is a bit of a problem
lol. Early crafting is pointless, except it isn’t, then, I guess.
I prefer book as cleric because fire or ice augment are extremely valuable. Fire for cutting out judgement for smite condemn, chilling on a cleave is good self peel slows.
But leveling my fighter, there’s damn near zero reason for me to craft a new one with 337 (something close) phys power on destiny time
I can only speak on my experiences, if someone has information to change that, I’m more than willing to admit I’m wrong. Called being an adult.
The problem is that cleric wants to level longbow for PvP, and grinding to 25 with a spell book puts you at a disadvantage versus those who make one and have it leveled by the time they’re 25.
Early crafting is not pointless. I don’t know what else you’re talking about, but that is all I’m saying here.
That, and anyone who thinks gathering mats for level 13 weapons is too much is not going to stick around anyway.
I’d entirely disagree there but to each their own. Stats wise, there is damn near zero difference, so more often than not, comes down to preference
35 meter range is the difference.
It’s not about stats, it’s about weapon levels, range, and the finisher options.
I still think chilling is way more valuable but again, preference
So you can grief your mages. Nice.
Yes but that different in preference doesn’t mean early crafting is “useless”
Careful dude. He’s an adult.
When mage can peel for me, I’ll care more. Until then, a not dead cleric is probably more valuable.
Maybe if you were at 35m with a longbow you wouldn’t need peels.
Idk what PvP you are doing but being out of range for healing while auto attack doesn’t seem to be very useful.
??????
Holy fuck lmao
I would sit and explain this but I have a feeling you still wouldn’t understand my guy
Homie doesn’t understand basic geometry. Definitely an adult.
I understand that position changes constantly and isn’t a single static number.
Not everything is 1’s and 0’s bot aspirant
Then maybe one day you’ll figure out you can hit people from 35m away with your team in front of you within 0-30 meters. LMAO
Calling other people bots when you cannot imagine basic geometry is fucking wild
I mean, to be fair Gac, you are a bot. 
Where tf are you getting geometry from, in an 8v8 there are multiple points that change. Being at max for bow is going to end up being out of range for healing at some point.
I don’t understand how that is hard to understand
Bro I am OLD and WASHED but even I can figure out how to stand in range of allies and out of range of enemies as a cleric lmao
“I like book”
LMAO OK DUMBASS
Weird hill
So it’s a skill issue. Glad we sorted that out.
You are certainly entitled to your opinions and thoughts, you go king
Pretty sure this came from you arguing that because you can get a book early game from boxes that early game crafting is useless, which is a fucking insane take.
I was talking about the greatsword? Tf?
When half of the classes need to craft and the other half are mostly good, is that not a bad thing we should call out?
Idk who pissed in your cheerios this morning but damn dude, relax not that serious.
Relax? I’m chillin bro. This is fucking discord, ain’t no stakes here. It’s Friday, life’s good.
Putting words in my mouth is not very adult of you.
Irony is interesting stuff
It’s 8am and people are sperging out over a simple discussion. Can’t argue preference.
I mean, we are in the arena of words so the default stance is “fuck you”
True and real
Idk if I’d consider this chat PvP because most people just screech the same things and post the same gifs.
Very low quality
“Sperging out”? You said crafting early was useless and I gave you a very specific and useful example of early crafting being advantageous over just using the destiny weapon.
I then explained to you in very specific detail why the longbow is preferred in PvP to the spellbook, to which you responded saying you didn’t know how you could shoot enemies from 35m away without also being out of range of healing allies.
Do I have that right?
And I changed my position on early crafting. When my bow and greatsword are both 330 something power and everything in my crafting is less than that, I would file crafting away as “mostly useless early”
I simply said “I prefer book”, for you to take that as anything other than me saying it is my preference and what I like is on you.
Do I need to say I’m proud of you too? Seems like that isn’t something you hear very often, for that, I’m sorry.
There should be options for everyone in the destiny crates or they should be removed all together.
As it stands now, I see zero reason to craft weapons when the destiny weapon is objectively better than any option I have.
The fact that you are screwed picking wand and not getting a focus, is a bad thing.
(Both things can be true)
we're overthinking 1-10 crafting imo, the destiny packs get you good gear for learning the game, literally asking you to craft and understand the systems on a basic level.
im jumping in late maybe, cba to scroll up 
You right, problem is the numbers on them sadly.
I started leveling a fighter for fun and saw that destiny weapon pretty much is better than any quality of lvl 1 crafter weapon.
There are fringe cases like the focus thing, so it just seems like a weird gray area.
im just sayin, once we have level cap 50, i dont think anyone is going to care as much. as it stands now, the destiny process is to give players guideposts for learning systems without hand holding.
i do agree that there should be options for players though who like their [wand] or whatev
Right.
Then when you think about how much of a pain in the ass it would be for the average newbie to go and find mats in a world that is beyond over your level sub 10, i can see it being miserable for newbies.
It’s a pain just to get to a node with how terrible the spawns are on the roads.
If they had gear for each level in each crafting tier and then higher tier crafters can make better base stat gear, I think it would be better.
For example, if an apprentice could craft shitty radiant gear, it would feel less of a waste than spamming lvl 1 gear that you drag drop. If that makes sense?
A good NPE is important for longevity
make a forum post, and link it.
i’ll support
Awe wtf
@grizzled widget @keen zenith please stop telling @long drum about long bow. Sincerely Fighter Cartel
Tried it before, don’t like it 
That’s fine but you can also acknowledge that your wrong. I like shortbow fighter for cheese but long bow is just better.
Other than range, In what way is it better?
Before I go down this rabbit hole have you played mage?
Nope, so the only reason is mage existing?
You just told us not to say shit. lol
I have one mage in my static, summs use lightning, so from my experiences, one lightning, one chilling, and one flame is a net positive.
The “math” only works between three stationary points and breaks down the second it is 8v8 because I know for a fact no 8 man stacks (not ones that live long at least.)
There are multiple right answers
Partially. Just straight up you will nerf the ever living shit out of your mages dps profile because you want to cleave with book. Also because you will be autoing with book you are now in a closer position for a tank pull + other long range autos (which you can’t retaliate against because you have a book). Also damage wise since book is meant to cleave you literally do less per auto than you would just using a longbow. Even wand is better because it has higher single burst.
There’s really not but you want there to be so it’s ok. Please for the love of god continue to use book.
Signed Fighter Gang
Im suprised wound hasnt been brought up
Shhh
Wound is good
Say this again slowly then argue book is still better
It’s just crazy to me what you stick with one idea and refuse to try out others.
I ran book last two wipes, I’ve seen zero issues with it.
I can see your argument in ZvZ or multiple mages but I don’t have that so it’s a non issue
Yeah it sounds like your mage might suck because mine would shoot me in the head for trolling like that.
You aren’t stacking multiple augments on one mage. You are allowed to coordinate
No I don’t, but I’ve never been told otherwise
Lots of steam players you might want some new mages 
Its tech He gets chill weapon buff on book and cleave freezes everyone
Is this before or after he gets pulled because he has to frontline to hit anything?
I see a cleric with a book I’m putting an ax on his head immediately
Go for it bud, the world is happy for you
Cleric Can run whatever we aint autoing Much anyway
My brain hurts.
I expect this from Cats players but not from a guild that cause them selves top tier LMAO
Cleric not Autoing? My lord this guy needs help
I want to actually give a shit about this game and the only competition we’ve ever gotten is Polar who uses exploits or logs out.
I’ll spill tech if it means we actually get fights lol
Real
@long drum thanks for giving a teaching lesson for our clerics
Happy to help!
I've seen worse guild adverts. There's a lot of guilds out there that are utter garbage. At least they aren't just blatant lies and more like stretched truths. This one is wild and is just one example.
Rip overlord
Are they server first hardcore? Server first PvX? Server first what?
The world renoun server first hardcore pvx guild overlord.
we're worse than polar for "checks notes" attacking a caravan
Fuck you spy. Absolute trash for attack this poor merchants caravan. Shame on you.
nevermind the buncha other crates we actually corrupted on
the actual pvp event, that's the bad one
You’re the reason this game is going to fail, your childish attempts to be a villain are insulting and reflect your deep seated insecurity with your own personhood. How dare you impose this insecurity onto others
Anything I don’t like is bad person 
that's it, I'm calling off the engagement. I'm returning the wedding gifts
Oh, again… /s for the smooth brains.
Your mother will be devastated.
can you imagine 
Man I love this game.
I got you beat
Wealth redistribution complete
you could call us....... actual .... pirates... POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
When roach hears you used his name…
We made 60 gold worth of gooop in 3 hours
I think 40+ crates. I had like 10-12 myself I had to run
how else you gonna stack up class resource
we had a masterbaiter situation, guy went corruopt on our mule after we stole from him
jesus, what a fantastic start to my holiday week, my throat is sore from laughing
NA Shol needs a bigger fish than these streamer guilds. Theyre shadow council voting each other in using that old alliance that fled from Resna at the last second. The corruption is unchecked. Polar might have been the Hero's all along.
We need your aid.
Time to leave the pve server
No guild dares defy the Aegis alliance. They just join them and vote their way.
Or dusty will raid them off the server. His words.
Surely that provokes some kind of reaction. Farming aura into oblivion cant be as fun as toppling an entire ecosystem of corruption where they feel so very safe.
they made a true blue donut on shol.
How is Resna going?
Just hang out around the halc/windansea border and go after all the people corrupting on crate runners.
Surely they won't run from PvP after attacking people for an hour straight. 
Same actually. I offered him 2g to sell his gear back to him
Wow it's almost like we told you this would happen...but some people wanted to choose the PVE server
theres no corrupters on crate runners here
Be the change you wanna see
im only 1 man. against a mafia.
LOL
Resna has had a bunch of crate runners learn very quickly that if you dont care about corruption crates are actually not safe
Godwilling DIS will purge all the PVE crate runners from the server until you need to run them in packs of 15 for it to be safe
Inshallah
i corrupted today on a guy ive seen time and time again always flaggin on groups and killing the carebears with bad settings. lost my adept chest. killed em tho. worf. officially a blighted now.
just saying
You know what you must do
have tyou seen my xp debt 
I'm done until I grind this off HAHAHA
Roll on Resna and we'll take you in
Everyday dozens of people get corrupted on in that zone. We also had some PvP at hawk bow and at ursine....if you can't find PvP on shol that's a skill issue my friend.
I do have a motivation for a rebellion. even if it means planting the seeds now and reaping in beta or launch lol
fuck bro im 100hrs deep do i really reroll
If you did 100 hours in a week you will catch up fast enough
calm down shadow council member

theres not really a way to overthrow an alliance tho. its meant for streamers? its not a system meant to work like that. its a content creator program built into the game.
the divide between resna and shol was the solution so they can flee bigger fish
Aren't all the streamers other than dusty on lyneth? Like all the tourists I mean.
Who???
nah theres a new batch of sub 200 andies callin the shots here. in cahoots
we got our newest recruit go corrupt on the guy, now we have untradeable weapons in our inv and two extra crates 
Oh I didn't even know
damn i really did accidently join the stremer pve server. -100hrs
Who is we cause last I knew ain't nobody playing this game besides Polar that has gaming history or relevance?
real fightin words right there
LOL
It’s ok son we’ll take you in
lol
There's a few people in the 1.5-2m xp debt range that I know. Lol. It's rough out here.
Holy fuck lmao
The conversation just gets better the longer it goes
Am I wrong though?
what the hell are you doing lol?
Dying.
probably ppl that were stuck in Joeva during the node war yesterday. Guards perma kill you and you can't leave the city since you spawn in Joeva lol
Good game
@wise sierra square up punk
Crazy how he just says this shit 

Actually wild that this dude steals a guild name with the sole intent of impersonating and tarnishing the guilds reputation, admits to it, has his literal guild leader get his name back because somebody stole it, and then gets mad that the same standards are applied to him and he lost the guild tag.
Just gonna drop this here.
wait wait, is the DOGZ derivative calling others racist? 🤣
Is probably not the best thing to "leave here" when y'all invited 2 people into your guild that have an nsfw history with people who it is not legal to have an nsfw history with 
Saying this and providing zero context or proof is a weak ass call out ngl
whose impersonating someone? Acting like you are in a guild that you are not in is not impersonating someone lol
Wait are the guards still murdering their own citizens
Imagine getting legal advice from generative AI
no, but the only respawn is now INSIDE the town, surrounded by guards that 1 shot
Lmao so attackers get fucked
yes lol
Yea if you have an overlapping home point or your shit is set a mile away its gg
Ahahaha this game
They could fix this by bringing node war camps up when the war starts...instead of godspike
Or just make it so the guards respect the embershrine protection to allow people to get out
no but attackers went into the city and were just perma killed by guards, probably had their home teleport on CD
And there was no emberspring protection to get out the city. We were respawning in waves and getting potentially one or two people out rezzing 20-30 people or so.
You still slinging that dirty guild tag slunt? @drifting herald You were supposed to be the kinda cool lesbian with your WRX. Now, you are just the angry one with the Outback.
Bam cant even use his words anymore.
Guys it's okay please calm the fuck down
The dwarves are fine now you can all clam down
It's not like tmugsy doesn't have an eph.alec discord or anything
@graceful valve
What did i say? i was just linking some warcraft logs?
You literally asked me to post them
Maras biggest achievement in ashes was having the polar tag and now he lost that too rip
MODERATORS IM BEING HARASSED SOMEONE PINGED ME ONE TIME!!!!!!
wait is this real? https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-adois-ddos-limit
A high-level World of Warcraft player has been kicked from his guild after it was revealed that he was DDOSing team-mates in order to get himself a spot in raids. Adois was the fifth main healer in Limit, the top raiding guild in the US.Limit spent the weekend racing to defeat the Antorus, the Burni
😏
would've been better without linking healing parses. healing parses are cringe
@gleaming blade Where's your ban board at?
Ping mods again just to be sure
Waiting. 😉 giving steven a chance
Ive seen your guild talking about SAing people in dms in game and then you act like the worlds biggest pussy role-players in discord. Like how are you guys a real guild
Just be the bad guys, drop with the cringe shit
Scared of words? we're in the arena of words sir, i'm not harassing you, you should understand the definition of "harassment"
We all know healing parses are who can cheese the most.
True but what about ddos parses, can we cheese those too
I think someone is parsing 100 at that
Also, even in the WORST(or best) guild possible, you should be getting above a grey parse or you're just god awful
On the contrary, his guild could have been too good. Not enough fire standing and tanking mechanics.
I don't know, i kind of doubt it, just go look at someone like holypalaswe whos actually good.
too many healers, niche assignments, lots of reasons why
and don't bring up holypalaswe's parse brain because adois was a better hpal than him lol
WoW raiding very cool
better at ddosing maybe
I swear to god, reading the brain rot of hpals in tbc, including holypalaswe, talking about ignoring assignments and healing warlocks lifetapping/pets to lol healing parse
sir we're talking about cata/mop not tbc, tbc was piss easy
you brought up healing parses then brought up holypalaswe when you got caught out like a redact. You opened the door to the topic, you utter redact 🤣
are people fighting about 15 year old wow shit in here now?
na just a bit of banter m8
good because wow is dogshit 
True too many ddosers that are insecure on there.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I got bad news for you my friend 
i love ashes
Wait, I thought you were in polar
Ye I was, i leveled with the first 25s
damn
Lots of cool people in polar, but adois deserves what he gets tbh
Why what he do?
Too much to get into, plus i don't wanna air this out publicly, i'm just bustin his balls cuz hes too easy to rage bait + hes a little too pompous for his own good.
Fair enough
Everything i said already is public knowledge tho
was rotating lawless removed?
Haven't seen one all week so i assume so or they disabled it for server launches
Can't fill the guild lead's party on a Friday night? That's crazy. Aura dead already?
Srix come on down to shol will theres no pvp and everyone is safe
pvp event is "up" in the avnils sometimes but it doesnt flag you at all
lmao they fixed that it was spawning too often like brother noone was complaining about it lol
deleted message, that was nuked not polar I was talking about
These 2 nerds tried to grief our farm group by pulling mobs into our pull. they failed we chilled and then they ended up getting killed by the mobs in the area
in the past you used to be able to cc them if they were trying to train on you but not anymore 
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any good lore from na servers?
So does HB event just not work?
It’s kinda funny when non-Resna people use this channel…
Shol is the official server as it's the only US server that is full. Y'all dodged
ngl I thought it would have been fun to not be on the sweat server but here we are lol
https://medal.tv/games/ashes-of-creation/clips/lJAFCI9fglzbljv91 hey guys I’m new to the game, why is there a caravan parked outside of grotto?
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I assume that’s just a power leveling thing?
please people in charge allow us to return the Caravel for a Corsair
ya gms have been watching closely there, i spoke to one in shout chat. the van is not being used for any type of defensive buffs which is what they were most concerned about
(and what is being falsely reported to them)
not like you werent using it for that before
incorrect again! It's ok if you guys dont understand the game mechanics but crying exploit and wasting Intrepids time due to your lack of game knowledge is seriously concerning
Well what is it for then?
If I had to guess it’s a way to exploit and circumvent lawless pvp zones and people being out of group/guild. 🤨
By that logic inner guild scrims would be an exploit
whose polar alt is this guy btw? tanko?
im a new player this phase
people who stop typing after getting asked who their main is, start a new message, then spend a full minute to say they're a new player this phase 😂
so you mean to tell me that guilds are exploiting the guild system by flagging on caravans to fight their own guild?
me when i scrim skeletons in coral to 25
Under one circumstance it’s being used for literally no gain.
Just create normal groups instead of using caravans to exploit grouping to extremes.
It’s obviously exploiting an unintended mechanic.
heard polar was already giving up
so your arbitrary definition of what is a gain is what determines whether something is an exploit or not?
You are a very unserious person. 🤣
the ganker of level 15s calling anyone unserious is wild
no one can comment on what you do since you hide who you are
idk at least zybak could pvp in lol wow unlike tanko when he tried to lead polar on ascension. Who the fuck plays pve mode on a classic wow pvp server
@hasty gyro come get your boy before we do this again…
ill happily set up a 1v1 zybak lets run it
he's coming to fuck you up 1v1 bruv
lolol orc
pve mode and was fucking levels behind KEKW
how do you fail at a game thats already been beaten
I’m pretty sure I’ll be the last person to hit 25 on the server. 😞
Complaining about people using caravans is wild comms tbh. If you wanna change it from happening you can just go kill the van
Of course that would require anyone besides Polar/Vice/Overmeta to come into the actual lawless area
You huffing it
scrimming in a lawless zone?
one of the worst parts of ashes is their community discord full of people that dont play the game rping like they do
Losing every phase? 
i always win dumb dumb
Wonder what aura supple person that is 
neither
Trying to think about who was a big yapper before but got banned so they’d need a burner
What they'll probably do is make it to where you can't get XP/Drops in a caravan event. Otherwise eventually contested zones will turn into everyone jerking off around a caravan
your boy skeet thought i was ban evading too but here i remain
yeah they need to make it so that if you are in the same guild you cant attack your guildies caravan event so people stop exploiting the guild system too!
Same amount of ppl flagging defender have the chance to flag attacker and kill the van. (And they don’t regenerate HP so it will eventually die)
Otherwise people will cheese group sizes and guild size limitations by using caravans. There's a reason why guild sizes and party sizes have limits.
its actually crazy that you guys are seeing a caravan there and crying about it but you still cannot articulate why correctly, havent figured it out yet
The kool aids gonna make em claim it fully heals ppl out of combat soon 
if you're the ones doing it good chance it shouldnt be done
we got the parking police out here
someones gotta do it otherwise you'd park in the handicap spots
Hold my beer and watch this ! Haha
Feeling pretty , might hit 15 today !
Adois?
Yeah using the caravan to circumvent raid rules and circumvent pvp is an exploit
Vans in the tropics are merely to help coordinate group play with the potential of contest pvp over a PoI to help alleviate not being able to assist guildies (whether due to flag settings or not having a guild tag yet) to prevent potential friendly fire, or "not being able to heal" (pvp settings)
It is not used to circumvent anything
It is considered an exploit.
Are vans not allowed to be on islands? Scrimmages limited to just outside of settlements? Just because the game doesn't have an actual system in place to organize pvp amongst a guild (or guilds) doesn't make it exploit. If it were unintended how else would caravans travel through tropics?
I could understand if it prevented another team from attacking you without flagging attack on the van but its lawless you can kill anyone so I don't see any "advantage" it gives.
Woah dont strain yourself old man
They are, but using them to circumvent raid loot/xp policy and dodge the pvp aspect is dodging intended mechanics, considered an exploit
Stole our guild name so we couldnt be in the same guild, aka not pvp each other in lawless zones, we use vans to help with that, and u still get upset, lol
Spam invited us to the fake polar guild so we would be kicked and on a 5 day cd
ironic, polar complaining about harassment.
No ones complaining, im just explaining to you that you are coping
Im not coping. I was never in a polar guild im not sure what you mean maam
Not surprised by the delusion
Na, I’m flexible ! I’ll Strain you tho ! ❤️
POLAR been stealing names since day 1. theyre just too slow. and have stolen my name multiple times. I think you're the cope bro. relax. Just own it man. its alot easier when you just own it
Its a literal meme from multiple phases. you'd think the IQ would raise.
What are you not getting lmao 😭 the vans were used to help with us being on the same team because we couldnt be in the same guild, this is the argument stop deviating
Doesnt matter, you cant caravan pop in lawless to circumvent pvp/raid policy. its a noted considered exploit. - Either way, have fun buddy 🙂 (plus they knew it)
Can i see where it says its not? Its no different from 100 ppl flagging attacker/defender in azmaran
cant we all just ..you know ...get along ! this is why ashes cant have nice things 😛
tbh , this game and community has been fun and even though alot of people butt heads and crazy comms, i still appreciate the hard work and dedication everyone has brought. merry xmas everyone happy holidaze and be safe out there ! see ya in verra
You guys are missing the tech
Just flag defender while they are doing this and farm their spot 
just invite them to your party?
They can’t fit all 100 of em that it takes to contest a spot into 1 party
What a disingenuous question, considering this is exactly the criteria you just used.
If only I could see some dorf drama to go along with the Polslut drama. It would be a balanced meal. Also, good to know polar still exploits and calls it testing.
True although to be fair.
I believe that the intention has always been for ashes to have Co-raids like AA (I believe that its shell has been in the game since pre-phase 1) 
So effectively 80 person raids that are technically 2 raids linked together into the same group between different tabs 
--> maybe wrong tho'
bro.... why everyone so fucking bad. U drop a van to share an event in a pvp zone makes it so you can pve while being in seperate grps and u dont have to worry about killing the other grp. Makes healing and buffing easier as well
So if pvp shows up you all dont have to rush to raid up youre just in the same event for faster counter fight.
why not just make a normal raid group?
ZYBAK HOW ARE YOU 100000 mmo player and ask this. YOU GET NO XP IN A RAID
so we're using caravans to circumvent raid group limitations?
solution is simple, no xp and loot from pve while on caravan event
a guild does the same thing holy fuck man HOW DO YOU HAVE A PULSE
like questing in stv in a full raid KEKW
honest comm, its been confirmed by 2 CS members that it is a confirmed exploit. Feigning innocence doesnt do anything here man
it doesn't....why else would you be running a caravan all the way out there....?
it circumvents the limitations and friction points of the game flat out.
yooo sounding like a karen aint it bro, take the L and move on. Say thanks for teaching u basic mmo mechanics
yo u should focus on hitting lvl 25
saw u pugging in world as a gm WTF is that hahahahahaha
Why you so mad bro? go level those 3 accounts.
i enjoy being angry also 1 account andy
it's 100% circumventing the intented limitations and friction points of the game. Feel free to change the subject calling me a Karen or w/e but there's a reason you guys ran a caravan out there lol.
There's a reason why there's guild limits, raid limits, and XP penalties for being in a raid.
It's an exploit. It just is....but whatever lol.
Also confirmed the bans follow the user, not the account Tim already told us youre doing 3 accounts so when/if you get actioned you cant quit
lost cause
🙂 have a nice day
at least have some entrance music if you're going to shit talk like you're in a shitty 10 buck wrasslin event
As a neutral 3rd party i would be willing to guarantee what srixun just said, never happened
OK 🙂
It's like saying having a friend kill you while you're corrupted to get rid of your corruption and pick up your loot is circumventing the intended limitations and frictions of the game. Which is not an exploit. You can't be more acoustic.
I mean you sound like a pussy? Caravans are part of the game and no where does it say you shouldnt use them for events. I guess we cant use these to scrim anymore either like think before you type.
"AHHHH guys using this caravan event to scrim is circumventing the rules!!! - zybak"
But that is an exploit of the system...it's not intended...it's something you can currently do but Steven himself said they are looking to fix that at some point.
Hurry TMX go trad elal your gear to your alts lol
Warning to anyone running scrims in the future - flagging up against your guild on a caravan is EXPLOITING THE GUILD SYSTEM by zybak definition and will be reported!
He literally said today, that it's not considered an exploit in alpha-two-general. 🤣
false equivalence. you gain nothing by materially in game by scrimming. try again.
Warning to anyone running scrims in the future - flagging up against your guild on a caravan is EXPLOITING THE GUILD SYSTEM by zybak definition and will be reported!
THat wouldnt be for in game gains. CMon man, I know you cant be that coked up rn
Just take the L this is not the hill you wanna die on you sound dumb af
🤣 🤣
idk what to tell you lol...I did an interview with him and he said it was not intended lol...
lol............
They are obviously wanting to fix things that circumvent and undercut their systems....it's not in the game now but I have no idea why I'd expect anyone here to argue in good faith lol.
what level are you
man said we weren't getting Ashes on Steam either idk
arguing with people that dont play the game is wild
Against the rules =/= against intended design and to be changed in the future
unironically proud of srix for even being above 20 this is impressive usually takes him months @gleaming blade gj
I'm not actually level 9 but I figured I'd just answer in bad faith like other people here.
Thanks boo. One day ill be able to be wiped every phase after 2 months like you. Im growing!
weak, taking this long to type out 4 words
AOCWallOfShame.com gunna be LIT - Ready for POLAR to try and sue me like they did Copium CLinic.
idk I'm a casual unc gamer now. idc about hitting cap super fast. I've always meandered (especially with lawless jundark)
Didnt you know? Your in game level is entirely the value of your self worth. Honestly that comm, is... kinda self reporting.
Its the same people who mock "wageys" for having jobs.
Only in MMO land can someone be mocked for being productive out of a game too lol
For posterity
can we get a karen take on this as well
I don't even know what that is or is in reference to lol. Acting super crazy on your Discord account in general isn't a great idea regardless of who you are.
Isnt Dellor in your guild...?
This is ironic...https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-39704533
and yellows there now too. do I need to show those clips?
I forgot about the chainsaw guy lol
I much prefer the legendary Dogz on 3 antics tbh. Make Dellor seem normal
The nice thing is this is TMX's last strike, soon we wont have to deal with it. Gunna be a good time
That petition about DA going around is pretty fun too
it's actually fucking crazy Overwatch eSports died because they wouldn't nerf goats for like 2 years
hes burning up stevens DM's right now. lol
what happened to the relic btw
we won the relic and polar has 6 flying mounts/mayors
srix what happened dude.
so the devs will allow for a bugged relic in the game to stay?
Wasn't the point of the guild summit you guys did was to let the little guild get nodes or w/e.
I was away for that but wasn't that the idea?
So much drama over a fuckin video game that’s still in alpha development lol
ya no one agreed tho s
one node per guild, I swear 
shol is the pvp server tbh
Just having fun. 🙂
Kio i saw u
Hussle never stops, relic is a perfect place to sell my consumables
i didnt know u were on resna tbh
I actually did agree @rugged apex I have the call recorded if you'd like me to share in here - ours
were still open to it! If I see a real attempt at locking one node per guild POLAR is down
This is going to be great here in about... a week and a half
isnt polar the only guild with more than 1 settlement rn? 
So if major guilds want some of Polar's nodes, Polar would be willing to let the mayorship go if everyone went onboard with one node each? 🤔
joeva is ebc, halcyon is vice, winstead is aura, and the rest is polar
who is doing more than 1 settlement per guild
ya we have no problem working with the community if it means more content
respectable asf, who else is on Resna that'd be a major guild tho?
Their entire coalition tried to stop us from getting a node and failed stop the cap freak
the fact remains you are the only guild with more than 1 settlement and the only one saying ppl don't agree with it 
scum will be scum
I mean if there's clearly verifiable proof that the voting alliance tried to cockblock Polar from even getting mayorship of any nodes, why wouldn't they react accordingly?
"Yeah we agree to the one node per guild pact, let me just make a 500+ people voting coalition first to deny you a node" you're acoustic af aren't you
in the face of violence we will retaliate 100x harder and faster than they can attack us - polar doctrine
thank you for having common sense
I'd just take what Tmx's saying in stride and talk with him about getting some guilds in charge of some of Polar's nodes, why not, got nothing to lose @gleaming blade
was it denying nodes, or was it getting nodes for the guilds in the alliance?
You guys had the entire anvils free, desert, tropics jundark. They voted for 3 riverlands nodes and you act like victims 
The fact that polar is going after Copium Clinic is fucked. He just makes good content and loves to PvP.
Healthier server healthier pvp, and if gms hyping it up, I say why not
is the ChatGPT lawyer arc real lol? I thought that was a troll.
It better be! Copium clinic gave us Llama. Who would be mad at Llama?!!
Thats Prior of POLAR. he left this discord out of embarassment, It is against ADA code to use your legal license to intimidate.
He got a call from a friend of mine who works for the Texas AG's office. Hes been very hush since.
Polar using legal intimidation is all those words Intrepid won’t let me use in this channel.
Where’s FED these days? Was excited to play phase 2.5 with them but real life had different plans
Lyneth i believe
Imagine being a random not familiar with all the Resna bullshit hearing about lawyers from one guild cringeposting in YouTuber's comment sections.
Jesus fucking Christ lmao.
The big thing is whats coming to a few youtubers and streamers channels here soon too. Going to be a blast.
(Zybak not included. just FYI lol)
I’ll donate KT to Project Anvil or Purple as long as @manic tiger or @pulsar shard gets the mayorship 
GBK already got his spot
Where’s my boys node
He wants the one on the other continent
Coot always a real one fr
I need them to unlock settlement xp already man
we are pissing away the population that is able to level up the Jundark desert and tropics
not happening for a decent while unforuntaltey 🙁
See him in 5 years i guess
Is the system not in the game for xp in the max level nodes to trickle down to its vassals. Ex: Winstead vassals Aith. Once WS is max xp shouldn’t Aith be getting at least a portion of the xp or did I just misread that somewhere
Ik or it at least seemed last phase that the father node was leeching xp till town level reached but feel like a counter system to build up the small nodes would be ideal
It was it just bugged out for some reason, worked fine last phase, capped, etc. just a new bug is all. Alpha stuff
this summoner class is slick as hell man
as slick as your head?
slicker and shinier!
nice
You should see after he leaves the gym and its sweaty. Hes aerodynamic
Maybe the flashbangs in game are just Zybak changing his helm

that's not even the worst ai slop to come out of that interview lol
Nah the AI slop Lloyd got made of him was wild 
I like AI slop so I don’t mind when I’m in it lol.
So, Im just going to say this one thing cause i dont think ive seen it talked about before. Srix and Aura claim the caravans circumvent the raid group and xp penalties. It seems like you guys are saying everyone in the caravan event shares xp? and thats just not true. Each group would still get their own XP, It just helps with flagging settings to not kill eachother, which has been done by every group of players since phase 1. Having everyone in the same guild would also do the same exact thing to the pvp flagging settings.
Groups do not share xp or loot even if they are in the same event so im not sure what the argument is there. Hope this helps 🙂
It’s about circumventing raid size and guild size rules. Those things are meant to be friction points on purpose.
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i mean the alliance tried to do it before
Have they said as much? Caravans could not be viable if there was a limit on the number of defenders and attackers short of server worker capability limits.
You shouldn't get loot or XP in a caravan event. that fixes it.
I cringed lmao
I didn't 😉
People aren't using it for those things. See what Laloop said. This is accurate, so I'm not sure what you're on about.
No laloop. I dont say that. intrepid says that. Doing that in a lawless circumvents. 2 CS people have said it is an exploit. im not trying to argue you. im just saying what i was told
I mean...it seems like an easy way to circumvent guild and raid size restriction friction points...why else run a caravan out there...
Why not just start a raid group like you were intended to do.
“Steven please join me and Yokai at polar furcon
“
I cant use my emote anymore cause im not in guild give bls
game still sucks see you suckers on Aion 2 or classic plus
Such as? You just listed xp and loot sharing. Caravan events provide neither benefit nor are those restrictions in anyway related to guild size... so I'm confused as to what you're citing as the benefit?
Guildies don't by default share xp or loot.
Is classic good ? Idk haven’t tried it
Holy fook what is that
my bad i was referring to classic wow plus
Being in a caravan event allows you to ally with people in different guilds and effectively be an unlimited size raid without any of the penalties....that is why you ran a caravan over there...
WHY ELSE WOULD YOU DO IT?!
Yea me too , I’ve never played classic before
best version of WoW imo
I actually went to defend the caravan cause I wanted it in New aela but couldn't. Was cringe. Tbh
give me a SS of intrepid saying that xD dont worry ill wait 
How does it stack up to like original wow vanilla tbc and wotlk
That’s classic
AoC just needs to cook for awhile and i would rather play other games
i meant classic WoW plus when it is out or Aion 2 which ever releases first
So like vanilla it’s super slow grind to 60 and no real fast travel , like aq40 and stuff … hmm
i give props to the people who can keep playing this game each phase
I'd rather play Ashes than predictable Korea-slop over and over again.
what else r people going to play? tbh this phase is the exact same as last phase just more polished. no pvp pressure points in game yet still, just optional systems that are worse to do
ashes is an 'mmo' mmo, where theres a lot of people and econ is real
It allows you to consider others friendly while defending or attacking the same objective without being in the same group. It has nothing to do with guild size though.
korean slop > AoC atm
I cant wait to chop 5k trees for 600 useful wood for one bow.
It does have to do with guild size...otherwise everyone would be tagged in the same guild and it wouldn't be a problem. The caravans allow for polar 1-17 to group together effectively creating an unlimited size raid group...ignoring multi-guild friction...and not having the associated raid group penalties.
The market undermines friction points in gathering/crafting, so is using the market and trading for items exploiting? You're using another system to reach the same end goal much like a caravan and a raid/guild. As ridiculous as this question seems, this is the logic you are using.
The market is intended....running a caravan to a farm spot to have an unlimited size raid isn't lol.
being able to ally with people not in your party (and outside your guild) to an unlimited cap is the intended function of signing up as a defender
It does not allow you to use abilities that are dependent on being in a party/raid like gambit.
Context matters lol. What do you think the intent of the system actually is lol?
They're going to change it...I'm almost certain they'll make caravan events not grant XP or loot. Feel free to say I'm wrong but you probably also agree it's not intended....
i thought they just changed it for raids because people would afk macro farm events in mass like the shol crab area
seen a few people macro-jumping at rez shrines / auto attacking this ph ase
This is the first phase where I feel I have nothing to grind besides materials in the first 2-3 weeks
drops rarely exist
i guess in my head mechanics > intent
like how cc white name people wasn't intended but it was the in-game mechanic. playing the game as it is, not how it might be changed someday in the future
Sure but CCing white names had a game-ified back and forth to it (also Intrepid was probably seeing how that would actually play out)
Running a caravan to a grind spot is obviously stupid.
standing a mule on a rowboat for more sportsfish is also dumb - but theres tons of people doing it
at what point does it become don't hate the player
you have to. Otherwise you will lose even more money.
is sportfishing lame?
its fucked.
the values are all wrong. We took a corsair out and filled it up, plus on our backs and mule and lost money... LOST Money.
so the fish just don't sell for much? does the bait cost too much?
BOTH lmao. Ill give an example. Freshwater CATFISH Fry sold for about 1g, (a larger one). SALTWATER Medium TUNA sold for 1.1g
so making a huge risky run into lawless and catching a fish 5 times as large. Steven thinks you should get 10 silver more 🙂
PVP SAVED....
I've heard complaints that the initial risk is too high.
Ashes of Creation....Payment Model of a Western MMO. GRIND and low reward structures as EASTERN Mmo. WORST of both worlds. They have NO clue how to balance risk and reward.
One of the suggestions I heard is that maybe only boats should be able to take out other boats. That way it's a buy in for the attacker.
Or at the very least require an item to sink a boat that is reusable but drops on death.
no the fix is make salt water fish pay TWICE as much. LOWER cost of the corsair boat to 10g. MAKE lures craftable ASAP. Because currently its more worth Loading a caravan full of freshwater fish. PHASE 2 IS BACK BABY
fair enough, I've heard other PvP oriented players complaining about it. I haven't done it yet
Your doing it again mara
One of my raiding toons
also is dynamic gridding turn on or off lol
this is hilarious how out of touch you are. This has been used since p2.5 when war cost was increased. EU used it for world bosses and farm spots all the time. Calling a system in a game working as intended an exploit is hilarious. Shit EU would drop vans in front of us at pve farm spots and shit talk us until we flagged against them.
I bet you were pissed when ppl bxr/quad shit in halo, or when ppl wave dashesd in smash. ZYBAK YOU ARE GETTING OLD MAN boomer out of touch takes might be time to retire the keyboard and get yourself a lawn hobby
@agile ivy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpsZJyYu4HM
example of in 2.5 EU dropping vans in SB for grping and content. WHY ARE YOU SO OUT OF TOUCH MAN HOW DO YOU MAKE VIDEOS ON A GAME YOU KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT
Caravans shouldn’t be used for that period lol. Doesn’t matter who it is. It’s obviously dumb.
$10 XP gets wiped if you are in a caravan
EZ fix
Is it a fix? What does that accomplish? It stifles the rest of the game without even fixing the non-issue you all see as a problem. You have the booster groups in the van still since they arent gaining xp and the boostees will be out of the van group. Combat PVP settings is all it will change.
We refer to ourselves as grape victims.
yea I am not enjoying this
Zybak is right 100%. The arguement that “people are doing x and not getting in trouble so x must be intended” is dumb
Just because you like to abuse mechanics and so do other sweaty degens doesn’t make him an out of touch old man. It makes you a sweaty degen
I think you replied to the wrong person? Might want to reply to someone disagreeing with that viewpoint.
Yup my bad lol @rugged apex
Wait did Zybak say something bad about the DORFS?
I don't know what that even is
nikua please I am playing a dwarf.
How bout this patch at PRIMETIME
Lol like do it in the morning. 10-1pm PST is brutal
lol theyre probably pushing the update then going home right after
@leaden blade is upset TEN is gonna be his daddy and be t4 node owners before him 😉
🙂
@void scarab luv ya buddy hope youre having a good saturday evening
Thank you brother
I’m leveling the anvils in your honor 🫡
You were always a real one, appreciate the love frand
TEN first to level 3 and soon to be first to 4!
Gonna take a whole Zerg alliance to stop a small guild 
Wuggy wug is prob on fed’s door begging for assistance vs big bad TEN
If you think wugglet is gonna be competition, the guy gets so butt hurt over the smallest things.
Facts facts but I was a 12 man guild going into this wipe 😂
Don’t make me roll a toon Just to come over and 1v1 you hehe
I’ll roll a new one just for that!
No joke, the guy got so threatened by me in another ganes discord where he was a mod, that he got his friend the admin to perma ban me after I found him doing corrupt shit haha
❤️ 
So yeah, I wouldn't expect much from wugglet at all lol
He doesn't have his friends to ban people he gets threatened by in this game after all.
KACE!!!!!
Based, I respect the hustle
Appreciate it
Game down for maintenance , let the word PvP begin
At some point in time, someone looked at a crab and thought “imma put that in hot water and eat that”
That’s true , they’ve done that with literally everything
Bugs, plants, tide pods all kinds of shit
Sometimes I think about how many people just kicked it trying mushrooms
“Hmm, me no want eat that. Grug no move”
“You can’t smell a video”
I beg to fucking differ
Yea chick is def hairy and smelly
But….. It’s like pizza , even when it’s bad it’s still pretty good
White girls with crystals should be put back in padded rooms (equal opportunity here, dudes too but I think they just get beat up and bullied)
we drink the milk of other animals, there are bigger concerns here.
I still wanna know where almond milk comes from. Seems like a scam
it should technically be called juice but ya
Idk what sounds worse “nut milk” or “nut juice”
I hate them both
nut extraction fluids ...better ?
somehow sounds even worse
“Drupe Drip”
I learned an almond is classified as a “drupe” or a fleshy fruit with a hard pit. The more you know!
Related to peaches and cherries!

listen up americanos, i have a question and i need a serious answer alright.
why the fuck do people do people film themself in their car like they get shit from their home just to get into their car and start filming. what the fuck is that about
srixun got bent dover
Cuz their house is an embarrasing hole
illness
Fuck the entire boat system. Make it a quest chain to craft your first boat. Keep the boat like a permanent inventory item. Require a craftable reagent to repair it. Allow parts of the boat to need repair if they get damaged in combat.
Caravan events are fucking stupid. It still takes a group of people to stop a single caravan. It's a big hassle to go make one and the payouts are shit. The only thing that has felt good in any part of the end game system is taking someone's shit pack and watching them mald over it.
This entire corruption system is so dog ass. Every day I play this shit I ask God why didn't Steven just copy archeage. I would rather sit in jail and miss out on important server events as a punishment than sit here coming up with ways to get around corruption.
The punishments made sense. It was a fun tradeoff. Green players still had fun in the safe zone and I lived my life on the sea.
Fuck the entiwe boat system. Make iwt a quest chain tuwu cwaft youw fiwst boat. Keep the boat wike a pewmanent inventowy item. Wequiwe a cwaftabwe weagent tuwu wepaiw iwt. Awwow pawts of the boat tuwu need wepaiw if they get damaged in combat.
cawavan events awe fucking stupid. Iwt stiww takes a gwoup of peopwe tuwu stowp a singwe cawavan. Iwt's a big hasswe tuwu gow make owne awnd the payouts awe shit. The onwy thing thawt has fewt good in any pawt of the end gawme system iws taking someone's shit pack awnd watching thewm mawd ovew iwt.
thiws entiwe cowwuption system iws so dog ass. Evewy day i pway thiws shit i awsk god why didn't steven juwst copy awcheage. I wouwd wathew sit in jaiw awnd miss out own impowtant sewvew events as a punishment than sit hewe coming up with ways tuwu get awound cowwuption.
the punishments made sense. Iwt was a fun twadeoff. Gween pwayews stiww had fun in the safe zone awnd i wived my wife own the sea.
What the best server (most people) after Shol?
So much soy.
the best server is lotharia
With all the russian spam? And bots. No thanks.
because NA doesnt have bots, sure buddy 
Reading is hard for you Daven we know. 🚌
literally what you said and even changed it after the fact 
No? I added the bots… But oke. What ya what 🤡 again go back to school learn to read 🚌
first you should learn how to write
🧌
lol Behaviors first thing in the morning 🤣
its rough when people cant speak their first language
our writing is good you jsut cant read 🙂 but you cant help that 🐮
Would also help if you just didn’t reply to everything especially if your not adding anything. But whole server knows your a 🤡🧌
you are literally pinging me every time, i just cant with you people. you guys have no hands no brains and franky dawg i dont know how you are
Again reading and facts are hard for you. Get help please. 😘
Are you guys disabled?
i even ignored that you messed up your spelling, its alright and how you perceive the world is not my concern
tough id honestly recommend to try not be so delulu
For na? Resna > Shol > Lyneth > Vyra
For eu? Loth is the only one that exists and should exist.
Thanks for the usefull comment ❤️
Vyra will get merged into another fairly soon in the grand scheme of things. They panic released it after launch from their server performance.
Im not sure arena of words is the best place to go for useful comments, but it works.
The server you choose should be what you enjoy about the game tbh, not necessarily strictly the pop. I think the pop difference between shol, resna, and Lyneth is fairly negligible. The server stability doesn't seem that way, though, with most problems that I've seen coming from shol and lyneth.
Resna is the guild drama and pvp server. Shol are the people that dodged those people and the pve steam dads. Lyneth are the furry streamer followers. Vyra is dead on arrival.
Shols got a shit ton of people but only a few of us veteran alpha testers. A lot of it is a teaching experience.
Seems like there was a serious miss on the tuning of sport fishing. Seeing a lot of complaints. 😭
freshwater is fine, its the pvp fishing thats seriously undertuned
of course lol
Yo we didn’t finish discussing almond milk
What are we mad about today?
harbringers events not working, lawless sports fishing yielding less profits than freshwater, crates/mules being almost as efficient as caravans without the risk. Just the usual people complaining that pvp systems in the game are being overshadowed due to them not being rewarding enough.
Fishing is cool, I do think numbers need changed.
I loved AA sport fishing, still think it’s one of the best fishing mechanics in any game.
I also wish the corruption system would be fixed so people aren’t ganking lvl 10’s running packs. It is what it is though, sadly. Idk what the alternative is as of yet.
Where dis the vets go to?
Yeah lvl 10s should be immortal so they can do all the gold shit with no risk
Not what I said but you already seem like an unreasonable person
I've watched everyone who attempted to lawless sports fish lose money. Every single person who has done it lost money. This isn't even factoring in the 25 gold ship, they never lost it, they lose the money because the fish are worth LESS than the lures 😂
You should flag if you interact with a crate outside of a van turn in radius of a settlement. Keep people from flagging in town. Flag people outside of it. Remove safe pve auto runners from overtuned corruption. Less crates being run is less dr. Good for the economy.
Thanks bro!
I wish I had just a little more damage, I miss ganking fisherman in AA
Thank god no labor system
you won't see anyone out there fishing unless they buff the sale prices of fish
I’ve been doing it just for the sake of doing it. That’s just me though. It’s one of my favorite things to do.
im sure you mean freshwater fishing, not lawless.
Both
Any profit is still a profit and more productive than doing nothing afk in town. If I die, I die. No harm no foul in my books.
it was reported on the PTR and yet they advertized it heavily and didn't even touch the fish rates
I know a good bit of people saltwater fishing. They aren't making a killing, but I know very few that have net lost money doing it. If you're comparing it to potential loss from doing something more efficient then I think anyone would agree with you, but so many people enjoy fishing, boats, deep sea fishing with the air of pvp, etc. that they don't care if they're making less gold per hour.
We could be having mass pvp in the ocean right now
X up for kraken/levi
Shol has been a good mix of old and new.
lvl 10's should be leveling. until they decide to add safezones they' will always be easy targets
Resna if you don’t wanna curb stomp people
More often than not, I’d be inclined to agree. Problem is, it is supposed to be a sandbox game. I’m all for ganking but I think it is without consequence for the corruptee when you can insta fix it either way a guildie. It’s smart but easily exploitable.
If someone wants to grief they're gonna grief. At least in AA you could put a griefer in timeout.
All they did with corruption is make me go an extra mile by either crafting a second set of gear or having an accomplice to skate around the system.
Corruption system is barebones if you can even call it that. From what I understand, they don’t want people corrupting rn.
Problem is there is no counter play. If you flag, you get fucked 2v1. If you just walk and ignore them, you die to the ganker.
It’s a tough situation to solve and idk if there is a solution atm
Steven said* in the livestream they will always have item loss as a punishment. Doesn't matter
I’m all for it
whut ?
Is there any fun to be had in the corruption zone?
if you are losing money on saltwater sportfishing you dont know what you're doing lol
perhaps you should do some more testing
the arguement I've heard is that it's barely better than freshwater (I have no idea I haven't tested it)
“Money making triangle”
Time vs effort vs value
It is funny to me how similar ashes is to eve online
If it is quick and easy, it isn’t a lot. If it is easy and valuable, it isn’t quick. If it’s quick and valuable, it isn’t easy.
It’s better to have it and not need than need it and not have it
Stay strapped or get clapped
Something something warrior in a garden vs gardener in a war
Man who can’t hold his bladder pees himself
Man who holds another’s bladder, is probably a murderer
That’s true
“Hold my camel-bak and watch this”
(your messages dont matter after yesterday)
when you meme so poorly that you're gunning for Lexicat's spot in Polar
Dogshit meme tbh, should delete and be ashamed of yourself 💯
Wow if servers dont fix themselves soon i may be forced to take my monthly shower
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NOOOOOOO MY PEP TO SPEED UP BOATS
Wait till they hear how tanks interact with boats
I wanna hear about it
You can wall a boat, and it dead stops like an anchor. Tanks will charge like a jet ski and wall a fleeing ship.
The anchor
Grapply strikes again.
What happens if you drop a fat otter on it ?
Usually not much 
Otters hate the sun. They fear the wrath of the sun.
\o/
"fixed an issue where refunds would return more than original transaction"
Wonder how long a certain guild had been exploiting that for until it was found by a proper tester.
This is the arena, you can just say Polar. Their lawyer has no power here.
Polar kicked my emotional support trout while I was taking it for a walk. Vile creatures!
imagine being on a different server other than Resna trying to use this channel XD
Yes the na is just short form for Resna
Fuck dorf drama. Now there is otter drama
otters are just the dwarfs of the animal kingdom
why what did we allegedly do this time?
You spoogy fuck. You told a guy that it was the other otter guild that ganked him. I demand otter drama. Entertain me.
lmao he was talking about a riverlands otter NPC 

imagine thinking anyone is taking this shit show serious
You can suck a bleedy nipple bald slunt. The otters lied to me.
I mean i guess if you like to be the bottom while Polar keeps pushing everyones shit in go for it I ain't judging
happy holidays you ungrateful bastards.
Zybak saying resna is sec 
best shit ever lol
I want you to know, you are, like, my third favorite lesbian. Merry Christmas.
you have 2 other lesbians , and who doesnt like eating pu$$y ?
@agile ivy give me an example in AoC of a clever use of game mechanics.
Polar must be purged. Kill all Polar on sight. Ruining the game for the whole of Resna
Dodge jump. Dismounting to avoid fall damage.
Mount spam probably isn’t intended. They should probably share cd on death.
https://tenor.com/view/seagulls-gif-10076984975234034823
Buying 20 mayor mounts and one dies you just spawn the next.
Perma death imo
Ehhh at the very least killing a mount in PvP should matter.
Dodge jump as in literally dodging mid air? never mind you meant to avoid fall damage
Why do boomers love AI slops so much
Defeats the purpose of having different mounts.
Easier solution is just making it to where people cannot mount in combat
So if your mount gets killed, you’re on foot until you exit combat
How it works in just about every other mmo for exactly this reason lol
Was a lot better when we couldn’t mount in combat. Only thing I’d add is they need to make it so combat actually drops reliably
Trying to trade after combat with a bard in group 
They need to fix corruption on killing mounts.
Steven created this entire game because of Archeage. Mounting in combat and using said mount skills in combat were a massive part of it.
Mounting is fine and I think people will get used to it being the way it is.
Mounts are supposed to have combat abilities at some point but I'm not sure if that will just be an engage and dismount attack like diablo 4 or something else.
I would be willing to put money on mount stuns, and bites that add bleed among other status effects you can combo off of
Give me a lance and let me ride my tidebreaker into battle dammit 
Too many people look at mounts as wow cosmetics and slightly faster travel.
If you aren’t using them in combat to move and reposition quicker, you’re bad at the game IMO
Hi ado been a minute , tbh idk - why do zoomers love eating shit like tide pods and calling each other Reeeee’s
not a zoomer so idk, but ur def 60+ so u should be able to answer my question
Hmmm , do boomers like it ? Maybe cuz it triggers all the noobs and jobless punks of the world !
If you find triggering other people enjoyable you are a sociopath 
Yaaa on second thought probably not the right room to type that in

kind of a triggering statement, ain’t it? 

Idk they asked why boomers like it , how should I know, I’m Gen X
Oh ya I didn't mean you or anyone else specifically just a broad general statement
It’s mildly entertaining
May you all have itchy buttholes, hemorrhoids, and taco bell shits this Christmas hohoho
Haha ditto
Damn 
May you all get exactly what you ask for.
It kinda depends on how much Steven liked AA's combat element with mount & glider skills being a massive component and whatnot 
Even if he loved the combat it wouldn't automatically mean that he enjoyed that element of it 
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Gliders would go so hard in Ashe’s 

I like the idea of mounts in combat but they keep eating effects for friendly players like aoe alacrity, aoe mana, glee jumps etc.
The desync and rubber banding with gliders would be comical on these servers.
You say that like the ArcheAge servers don't have desync and rubberbanding, lol.
the boats in this game run so much better than they did in ArcheAge when I played. couldn't even put more than 3 people on a clipper without people getting flung off the side randomly
is gen x 60+?

yes gen x are giga old and get really upset when called boomers. gen x=1965-1980
'I was born in 1965, not 1964 so I'm not a boomer mer mer mer"
It is amusing seeing Boomers come to terms with their reality vs everyone else’s.
Post WW2 really was cheat codes lol.
if only they fucks didn't pull up the ladder with suicidal empathy Madge
im not really familiar with this gen thing
I'd explain it by saying it's a way to delineate life experience by age brackets, sort of like Italy prior to having a Mussolini as a politician and wait...
A lot of it really is just this: they were a very large cohort of people who voted in their best interest. People naturally do that.
When they were young they did and now they’re old and still doing it. Classic tyranny of the majority.
I don’t think it’s mustache twirling evil but I understand the frustrations people have with the reality of probably doing worse than their parents (on average)
Also it was literally the perfect time to be an American. Everywhere else was blown up and the USA was big dicking everyone.
If you’re a boomer now who’s destitute it’s actually impressive you managed to orchestrate such a failure.
probably got scammed with AI into buying gift cards
yea the 50's were like arguably the best time in America, lower divorce rates, stronger family values, less finacial issues
matrix is a milennial movie KEKW
back in my day, we had to walk uphill both ways, in the snow, to go to the library to use the card catalog
My war words were removed from the arena 
you mean the dewey decimal system ?
dewey from malcom in the middle?
such a shit subtitle, you can see him mouthing old man
look, i want to instill a since of core values in my kids i learned from my parents and grandparents, using common sense, hard work pays off, how to be frugal with money, humanity and morality, family dynamics, and to learn from my personal experiences and mistakes.
At least that era is finally at an end 
Even French MFs hate Feint.
modbot must not be working. not banning the french on sight
Ta mere suce des ours dans la foret 
enchante mademoiselle pequitoit ah ha huh ha huh baguette
tete carree
Phoenix is forced by law to know French. The French Canadians are the kings of Canada
That sounds like... Otter madness 
I live in the Ottawa area so I am basically required to at least understand French 
you ottawa leave that shithole
Move to Alberta so you can join America soon 
or greenland
On dirait un problème de compétence typique de la génération Z.
My parents live there so I have an in. 

Canada already has 40 year mortgages. That’s why we have to do 50!!
yea fr who needs generational wealth when you can have generational debt !
Otter :)
The most responsible thing you can do is run up credit cards in your kids name to inspire them to grind harder
anyone confirm that killing mules doesnt get you corrupt?
It does get you corrupt
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Are you tryna call ottawa a shithole here
you ottawa know I called it a shithole
I never believed in hell until I set foot in Canada. And I never prayed until I went to Ottawa and I was on my knees pleading, "Please, get me out of here. I'll do anything"
Oh you're just built like a babyback bitch and can't handle a wee chill 
I just checked. Ottawa's lowest temp was only 8 degrees different than here. foh canuck 🤣
Can you point to where here is on a map for me.
Based on your edcuation I'm guessing you're somewhere in the us
nah, moosejaw, 68 iq canadian, top 10% iq wise in our great country. Oh canada
Cap, if you were 68 iq you'd be running for PM
jokes on you, I termed out. You'd remember me by my famous blackface photos
Lol termed out
yeah, imagine having term limits like the actual countries KEKW. Taking until 1982 to gain actual independence, bless up
Moots
Honk
wild to have a salt chat and overmoderate it tbh
It's an official discord and this community is especially dense so I don't really blame them.
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Most of what I say gets moderated here. I want you to know I mean it all.
Just saw TMX kill a mule couple hours ago no corruption hmm
Winterlude is starting soon it's not so bad
Prolly can't skate
I like ice skating , shits fun, but I grew up at carvel skate land doing speed skates and stuff
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i thought resna was a pvp server, what was that
I'm pvping these fish
Sport fishing server, also its christmas eve for aussies.
atleast purple pulled up, all the others just left
what are you braggin about ?
tbh there is nothing to brag about, that was just disappointing
Can't you change your pfp/name, youre kinda ruining my comfort character 😄
Please dont ping me if you dont play
Zuko wouldnt say that, so rude :/
Zuko first book arc, wait for the character arc
So like, when's that going to be
Once I catch steven
This isnt u nephew, stop acting this way
I must catch the bald one
💀
@agile ivy
I’m still leveling boss.
Do Harbinger zones suck massive cock or something…I literally haven’t heard anyone talk about them.
log on, I have oasis spectres on lockdown. from one eq grind to another
I don't think they're really active right now.
merry christmas eve (day for you lovely aussies)!
Like intentionally…? Or are there not enough level 25s doing stuff yet?
What is even in the harbinger zones now? I see them on the map.
Its like if Diablo was in Ashes
We've killed a ton of mobs in the area, and nothing has really progressed. Don't really know how to progress them. Can't do half the shit in the upper left. The spreading from pvp and contracting from pve isn't in, either, but we knew that.
It's currently just a zone with mobs, no nameds or anything, that permanently flags you (potentially fixed bug. unsure if it has been fixed. super annoying.)
Unsure if it's intentional, or if they just haven't grown enough to have content yet😞
We got the purification spots in every town but you cant really do anything yet with it
I’m definitely worried about the end game loops tbh. At least in the short term.
Seems like saltwater sport fishing is a huge nothing burger with current tuning.
Yeah, it definitely needs a buff. Or just needs lures to be tuned better.
What a huge fucking bummer holy shit man
This has been derailed a bit, but the OP message explains things fairly well. This is how we feel and what we are experiencing. https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1452834900721008881
I mean, the fishing game itself seems to work fairly well. It's just a matter of tuning now that's its been implemented. I'm glad it pays too little and needs to be buffed though, instead of being too strong and needing nerfed before the econs fucked too hard
But the pvp is so fun. Thats like the one thing it does. But the players make that.
Then of course being followed underwater and having your fish stolen is amusing as fuck.
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The rocks are there but literally nothing else
this shit was really hyped up just to not come out fully till end of January
Harbinger not in is wild. We hit shit in there for hours to try to trigger it. Nothing. Shits turned off lol. It did perma flag one of our guys for the first week though which was fun. He got a free cosmetic for it haha.
Why even have it there if it's just turned off?
Also, Intrepid still can't tune world bosses at all. They are always either way too easy or way too hard, and the rewards never match the effort
As it stands now gonna need tanks with 10K health
HELL YEAH WE DID IT! Lyneth got Anvils under one node! TEN on top!
Since day 1 this was the plan! TEN may not have done it alone but we for sure had a huge hand in bringing all of Anvils together!!
@void scarab Isnt it pretty enough to bring a tear to your eye
I hope you could copy archeage fishing and make it work.
The Aussies smashing POLAR even earlier into the phase this time 😄
Dragging a relic in a bugged caravan event to the closest node
at least have the balls to take it to Joeva where you’re actually based at
but unironically devs need to fix the caravan shit. It’s cringe for both sides the last 2-3 relic spawns
@inland crater and @winter snow spam walling me last night had me going schizo 
happy with Genesis getting it, but yeah the bug sucked
Dude I care like 5% about the relic and I’m so fking pissed some of the only pvp we are getting this phase is just getting inted for both sides man. Like FUCK
we will give you more pvp once everyone is done getting setup with a bit of gear etc lol most of us are still half adept gear
Yeah same I’m barely 200 power cause I cba going to goblin plat or tropics (didn’t even know about this cave in jundark till relic spawn last night). This is the first phase I genuinely feel like I have to gather off the start of the phase to just plan ahead cause drop rates feel so dog shit to me
I was hoping the harbinger event would be good for gear but I guess we wont find out til they fix that
It’s worse drop rate on gear than grotto or lighthouse and it’s only 23 items. I expected at least 26+ but it doesn’t drop shit and the mobs are more aids than any other spot that drops 23 gear
Didnt they say once you beat the boss you get to go into some crazy good loot area for a few hours? hopefully that area drops better stuff than the outside
Supposedly beating the harbinger boss that we tested on the PTR opens up the inner rock with the portals
world bosses 🤣
steven saw content happening last phase and had to clean that up real quick
ah yes, make them so strong that the gear you need to kill them is significantly better than the gear they drop


