na-arena-of-words

[sick mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emfXXNllidQ

[grizzled magnet]

you can clearly see players dying but the score would say 0 kills

[sick mantle]

the funny part is supple re-decced and got ROLLED AGAIN 🤣 🤣 🤣

[grizzled magnet]

idk if you should be so excited about beating a 2 week old guild with ur 3 year old guild...

[sick mantle]

The even funnier part is that was the second day in a row that the Supple/EBC/Amnesty alliance got rolled having 50 more players than POLAR YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS UP

[lilac harness]

It took an hour for the war spin up to start counting kills. Not bugged. Poor choice was made by someone. An hour is far too long.

[grizzled magnet]

no this was prior to the hour spinup change

[polar veldt]

Hopefully most guilds stick around for awhile so nobody claims ultimate victory 3 weeks in against half a server who isent even Max level yet. Pretty immature

[grizzled magnet]

honestly it's not likely

[viral wagon]

people actually think the steam launch is going to go well? 😂

[polar veldt]

Guess will find out! Hope keyword -

[viral wagon]

reminds me of the camelot unchained,shroud of the avatar, crowfall,etc copers tbh

[sick mantle]

WHAT! HAHAHAHAHA, Bro doesn't know the lore.

Supple has been a guild as long as Polar. Where apparently the best New World and TnL guild after EPH died.
Their leadership along with other in Supple joined POLAR in Phase 2.5 to learn the game before coming in full force for P3.
Recruited OSO players and ex EPH players that had been playing the game since P1 for P3

Talked a lot of shit in their pre-P3 guild meeting only to get rolled.

It was the biggest joke in MMO history HAHAHA

[grizzled magnet]

yes but none of that guild had played ashes before....

[viral wagon]

in Polar
brings up lore
doesn't know that's a self-own

[hasty gyro]

Except the people who played in Polar then went back to Supple and them absorbing all of Aura and OCE being on a leash

[grizzled magnet]

it was like 15 players who played previously and 150 brand new gamerdads looking for something to play

[sick mantle]

Half their guild had already played Ashes before. And this game is not complicated AT ALL there are barely any systems in place. It's literally learning the basic classes and THATS IT lmao.

[grizzled magnet]

and you and I both know that absorbing amnesty and EBC is actually a debuff, two of the worst guilds in ashes history

[sick mantle]

OMG I forgot they also absored AURA like a week in. Now that I think about it, honestly the most embarrasing performance in any game I've ever seen. Literally tried to stack the world against us and got obliterated.

[grizzled magnet]

obliterated for the first two weeks for sure

[viral wagon]

at least one of that guild has some self-awareness

[grizzled magnet]

by the end of week 3 polar was unable to get a single carph tag and the reddit thread had to be made, by the end of week 4 there was no more polar

[hasty gyro]

You guys literally lost in my YT video after we lost Carphin weapons. I literally still have the 500 power scepter I had left as a weapon in my bags from that video

[sick mantle]

Omg I forgot we were fighting them with fucking grey lvl 10 weapons and some ppl had even worse shit. Nah that shit was embarrasing.

[hasty gyro]

We had players with only weapon left being novice wands and random focuses and no melee

[sick mantle]

And like week 5 or 6 the few players still playing did a 12v12 scrim against Supple after Supple tried to ego them and Supple got HUMBLED BAD.

[viral wagon]

wait is that tanko on an alt?

[grizzled magnet]

no

[hasty gyro]

Double our member count by themselves and still had to alliance up. Shits just sad. And yeah I agree OCE crawls to literally anyone who says “Polar bad” so they have any type of help to fight us at wbosses

[viral wagon]

what polar member is still playing dogshit ascension then?

[earnest garden]

I sold carph weapons to polar members after the great reddit weapon delete and they corrupted on me immediately that same week. EZ gold increase and gear back, lol. I almost felt bad.

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-exterminatus-explosion-nuke-40k-gif-22693290

[sick mantle]

How you gonna lose to us when you:

1. Have 50 more players
2. Have crafted Epic+ lvl 29 weapons while Polar had grey lvl 10 weapons and some ppl missing a secondary weapon hahahah

[hasty gyro]

And now both of our guilds chilled for the phase and the RPers talking big at times phase 3.001 gonna go hard

[sick mantle]

It got quiet all of a sudden 🤔

[earnest garden]

2.85 coot!

[polar veldt]

You guys been talking to yourselves for awhile. I’ve been just laughing

[sick mantle]

Week 1 pre merge Aura was better with the brazilians ngl

[polar veldt]

Is anyone from supple in here lol!

[sick mantle]

A lot of them left the discord because they are done with the game. Too embarassing to come back tbh.

[earnest garden]

How dare you. Brazil went hard this phase. I love them for their shenanigans. AoC needs more Nova

[hasty gyro]

2.85 do be sounding accurate

[lilac harness]

I was Supple-Guest, not Supple-Supple, but I joined after all of this happened. I wasn't in Aura, either. I missed the fun.

For clarity, most people you can think of that were active at the end were Supple guests and not Supple proper. We were never given the supple role in their discord and were stuck in our own little corner of the disc.

I was in Suspect during all of this as they cried about the state of the game and were telling people how they'd come back and play later. Recruiting while no one is playing the game. Doesn't make any sense. Just like Supple bumped their recruitment post on 11/24. Also doesn't make any sense.

[sick mantle]

I meant before AURA merged into Supple and had their Nova squad they were more competitive than Supple.

[cyan violet]

I like to look at all the competitive games and see what orgs are on there and realize no one here is on there.

[polar veldt]

I mean the game is not fully complete yet so. Makes sense

It would be hard to bring a bigger real deal org who are not die hard at this point so

[viral wagon]

I just enjoy watching the shitshow and taking bets with myself when the people egoing on an alpha realize they're on an alpha and not on a launch game for a reason kekw

[sick mantle]

P1 EPH got the pipe
P2 NiSa got the pipe
P3 Supple got the pipe

[viral wagon]

p1 polar was running from fucking brazilians on Resna

[sick mantle]

Since it's mostly old ass people playing MMOs I feel like when they say "competitive games" and "competitive guilds" they are reminiscing about guilds whos players are 45 years old now with arthritis that were competitive in EQ 23 years ago.

[viral wagon]

then crashing out in discord salt chat and then ragequtting disc server when they couldnt ban people with mod

[earnest garden]

2.85 now with glaringly red backdrops and "incentivized pvp" and...fish!

[polar veldt]

This kinda of game attracts the older crowd. It is an old school MMO after all

[cyan violet]

League of Legends (LoL) – Worlds remains the most-watched esports event globally.

Dota 2 – The International still offers record-breaking prize pools.

Counter-Strike 2 (CS2) – The successor to CS:GO, cornerstone of FPS esports.

Valorant – Riot’s tactical shooter with a thriving global league.

Apex Legends – ALGS continues with multi-million dollar prize pools.

Fortnite – Competitive resurgence with global tournaments.

Call of Duty: Warzone – Fast-paced battle royale with strong esports presence.

PUBG (PC) – Still active in Asia, though less dominant than mobile.

Rocket League – Unique car-soccer esport with consistent global tournaments.

Overwatch 2 – Competitive scene persists, though smaller than its peak.

[sick mantle]

"Yeah bro just wait until the real hardcore competitive MMO guilds that dominated EQ and Dark Age of Camelot come to Ashes"
Sure bro I'll wait for the retirement home players to come push my shit in.

[rough silo]

What is this chat....

[cyan violet]

Swifty is 55 and would dunk all of us, what are you on child.

[polar veldt]

lol.. what’s with the hate for older gamers

[cyan violet]

Swifty would make them reach for the sky, pray, then reach for their toes, make their head wrap around and kiss their ass goodbye because they'd get dunkaroo'd.

[polar veldt]

Is swifty really 55? How time flys man

[viral wagon]

in Polar
shit talks other guilds
doesnt realize they were dog shit in pvp and their crowning achivement in pve was playing as the only guild on Eranikus and waiting until all the guilds who consistently did better than them quit the game

10/10

[sick mantle]

The only respectable thing Swifty has done is tell his girl she needs to hit the gym.

[polar veldt]

He could Probly be your grandpa

[cyan violet]

Dont forget multiple Glads, competitive.

TSM, Alliance, DarkZero, Team Falcons, NRG, Luminosity, Fnatic, OpTic gaming all competitive

[sick mantle]

I hit the nail on the head it seems with my previous EQ and Dark Age Of Camelot statement I see. Sighhh......

[viral wagon]

Did Swifty pay for carries to get glad? I know a few Polar who paid to get carried for rank lol

[polar veldt]

DOAC was a bad ass game man

[viral wagon]

DAOC private server has better siege gameplay than Ashes, hot take

[cyan violet]

That you're some no name in a non competitive game?

[sick mantle]

Nothing really, it's just true. MMOs consists of older people they don't really attract young people not fast paced enough. So a lot of people are talking about guilds that were really competitive during their day 25 years ago.

[wicked bone]

29x Ashes Gathering tourney champ, the infamous wood gatherer

[viral wagon]

Polar clearly not sending their best if Zuko shows up

[wicked bone]

Im just here to troll you respectfully, i got no clue abt lore

[polar veldt]

Well when the young guys lose they can’t take it so they all quit usually and run to the next thing! It’s about a scoreboard for a lot of the younger generation now

[sick mantle]

I named EQ and DOAC because they are old ass games not beccause they are bad games lol.

[viral wagon]

If that's your cope for acting like a redact, you do you

[cyan violet]

Yet, they're right there. Testing Ashes.. LoD and MH two of the oldest MMO guilds to date.

[viral wagon]

Plays Ashes alpha test
egos about it being a better game than EQ and more relevant
doesn't know that most of the devs on the game came from EQ or EQ2

[sick mantle]

It's just how content has evolved. Instant gratification. People cba to put hundreds of hours catching up in an MMO. You can play other genres at a very high level then stop playing for a while and you don't have to spend weeks or months catching up when you pick up the game again.

[wicked bone]

29x Ashes Pve Champ

[polar veldt]

Is true

[calm saddle]

I mean its also that most modern mmos fucking suck

[viral wagon]

Call me the Last Airbender because I'm wooshing over Zuko's head

[wicked bone]

29x Ashes Debt xp Champ

[polar veldt]

Man my first MMO was Ultima. Man I do feel old lmao

[viral wagon]

just go back to ultima, old man. Most likely has more players than Ashes atm

[sick mantle]

Mine was Cabal Online KR slop. Like 95% of the mmos I've played have been KR slop.

[polar veldt]

It’s been awhile since

[sick mantle]

MMOs would be in a better spot if Koreans weren't so fucking greedy.

[polar veldt]

They make the best MMOs. They are just greedy

[sick mantle]

Such good combat and systems but heavily overshadowed by predatory ass monetization models.

[polar veldt]

My gem was lineage 2. Another game ruined by NCSOFT. Those fucks been ruining games for almost 25 years

Think I was 16? 17 maybe then. The days

[cyan violet]

We from the Golden Age, but I dont feel old. I feel sorry.

[polar veldt]

Different world for sure

[sick mantle]

Me too, top guilds from complete and competitive MMOs have come to get rolled by POLAR in a non competitive game.
I am deeply disappointed and frankly I feel sorry for them.

[inland crater]

we're from the 80s we actually played outside and drank water from the hose !!!

[polar veldt]

I used to play with sticks in my backyard. Lmao today that’s Probly abuse haha

[inland crater]

lmao yeah younger peopel suck old people for the win

[polar veldt]

I remember I got the tech bill for my kids going to school… I said what’s a tech deposit.. they said it’s for the iPad.. what fucking iPad. Oh they don’t use books anymore

[cyan violet]

Like who

[inland crater]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-sky-sky-news-simpsons-rumboman-gif-24776455

[sick mantle]

I know you're old but scroll up buddy. You can do that can't you.

[cyan violet]

That list of people not listed competiting in any top games?

[calm saddle]

Most fully competitive people I know didn't consider TnL to be top tier competitive. as for NW, I have a hard time taking that seriously considering the size of each server

[inland crater]

last I checked ipads can have books on them

[sick mantle]

Bro bouta link non MMO games again.

[polar veldt]

Thank god I have my wife. Cause uh yeah..

[cyan violet]

Yeah, they didnt even make it to eSports level. At least WoW did I suppose.

[calm saddle]

I dunno what happened between ya'll and Supple but pretending Supple knew what they were doing because, "well some of them played" or that they had guides is just coping. Ya'll quit 3-4 weeks in when the fight was gonna get good. Supple got bored and left. Stop the cap.

[sick mantle]

Goal posts move everyday, I take all talk of what people consider to be competitive with a grain of salt.

[calm saddle]

lol neither did BDO and BDO is considered one of the most competitive mmo pvp games there ever was

[calm saddle]

Not really, I still get mocked by certain people I know for "taking tnl too seriously", I just shape my perspectives based off what I'm playing at the time. Idc necessarily about what one person considers competitive and another doesn't, skill is skill and it translates

[cyan violet]

WoW and GW2 are the top of the competitive list if we're being real.

[calm saddle]

wow at its height had like 15 million subs I'm pretty sure thats an obvious top yeah. GW2 I think can be debatable

[cyan violet]

Can you imagine the excuses made in here if the younger gen got mulched by a 55 year old Swifty. Itd be a certified /popcorn moment.

[inner prawn]

GW3 better have open world pvp and castle sieges this time around

[calm saddle]

I have no idea who Swifty is tbh

[sick mantle]

Week 4 we had lvl 10 grey weapons and lots of people missing secondary weapons after the great Carphin purge.

We fought Supple twice against their alliance while being heavily under geared and down 50 players (50v100) and they lost two days back to back at world bosses. When was the fight supposed to get good exactly? A few weeks after this when like 95% of the guild had stopped playing Supple tried to ego us and asked for 12v12 scrims where they got humbled AGAIN.

Having an opinion about events that you weren't involved in and better yet having an opinion on a phase you didn't play is CRAZY.

[viral wagon]

guild wars 3 will be the guild wars equivalent of Aion and AA 2. Sorry

[cyan violet]

https://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/swifty.html Pretty much a pioneer of eSports really.

[sick mantle]

GOOD COMMS

[polar veldt]

I mean swifty was good but Rekful was fucking insane

[inner prawn]

some old dude from classic WoW that was dog water at the game that made a macro

[cyan violet]

Byron is still to this day, the best PvPer in the history of this genre.

[inner prawn]

Vurtne and Reckful

[cyan violet]

I used to duel Reckful daily in Asherons Call, dude was nutts.

[viral wagon]

Turbine is such a shit MMO dev

[calm saddle]

"having an opinion about events that you weren't involved in and better yet having an opinion on a phase you didn't play"

yikes imagine just learning I'm a chronic yapper? also imagine pretending that Polar isn't notorious for bending the truth to fit their narrative, do you know how many times we've caught you apes doing that LMAO. I have no stake in either side, I think Polar is annoying as fuck. I remember the narratives of how you guys "crushed the EU alliance" in a siege in 2.5 and yet you had two full fucking raids slam them from both sides but because the second raid was FED you tried to pretend it didn't matter

[cyan violet]

wasnt really Turbines fault though, their team made one of the best MMOs of all time.

[sick mantle]

Dudes talking about eSports when 99% of MMOs are dog shit spectator games is crazy. Most MMOs will never be eSports because no one wants to watch that shit.

[calm saddle]

I see, maybe he'd smash, maybe not, plus he's just one guy. I've found various players have various skillsets. Jaxy is one of the top duelists I've ever met and he'd put me down in 1v1s/3v3s etc but when we fought 20v20s I routinely beat him because of scale difference.

[viral wagon]

Polar lies more than they drink water. And if they end up getting an embarassing wipe or Tmugsy plays like dog shit, he/they will copyright strike or privacy claim the vid

[cyan violet]

jesus Gae..

[viral wagon]

shout to the drama where he missed Thaddeus jump and privacy claimed the vid 🤣

[polar veldt]

Well alright then lmao

[sick mantle]

LMAO that wasn't even the siege. That was random open world PvP that FED asked us to come help after they got spam wiped at Steelbloom.

The actual siege against EU was won by POLAR in 15 MINUTES LMAO. Yeah again. Kinda crazy to have opinions on things you know nothing about.

[cyan violet]

Right but contextually hes a multi time Glad.. the point was he's actually competitive.

[calm saddle]

It was literally inside of a town on top of a hill what're u smoking brother

[calm saddle]

And Shroud was one of the top csgo players in the world and I put him down like a dog in TnL. Swifty prolly got hands, but doesn't mean he'll be good at everything

[sick mantle]

Just because it's inside a town doesn't mean it's a siege. 😂 😂 Bro forgot its open world PvP.

[cyan violet]

brother that doesnt even translate..

[sick mantle]

Then why do you keep comparing MOBA's and FPS to MMO's. Is your brain cooked?

[cyan violet]

Why are you talking?

[calm saddle]

hmm touche I might've been wrong on the siege part but that doesn't change the fact Polar proclaimed it as them slaughtering EU when it was two full raid groups so correcting me doesn't change what happened lmao

[sick mantle]

I tell him we shit on MMO guilds then proceeds to give me a chatGPT list of competitive FPS and MOBA's..............hello

[cyan violet]

@calm saddle Swifty is a MMO player though, playing in a competitive environment. Ashes isn't competitive.

[calm saddle]

the amount of fucks I give about this random old man you're glazing now have ceased to exist mr solv, swifty should retire, he's way too old

[inner prawn]

was Swifty ever good in arenas?

[sick mantle]

we take our loses too like when we lost to cartel in the 8v8 tourney now they are homies

[cyan violet]

Competitive people play in competitive environments.

[inner prawn]

so why does Ashes have parties of 8 btw?

[sick mantle]

I was talking about competitive mmo guilds earlier and for some reason he came out the wood work talking about FPS and MOBAs listing Fnatic, TSM and shit like what man?

[calm saddle]

I mean 'course, Polar's not always spinning a narrative. I also learned about the Carphin weapons and went from calling out Polar for abusing event spawns to defending them because they'd tried to get it fixed in the past and Intrepid had ignored it. People learn, things change, circumstances differ. Like I said, I don't have a real bone in it, I just find Polar annoying because it feels like watching people winning an mmo for the first time

[cyan violet]

Thats the number Steven wants.

[calm saddle]

and yet shroud playing in csgo for top competing teams isn't the same thing to you, okay I guess

[inner prawn]

well it's kinda aids

[sick mantle]

We do it because it's funny to us and we like playing the villian. Gives you more content. I was in a guild that did the opposite and leadership would get DM's from these carebears about getting PvP'd. I'd rather be the former tbh.

[calm saddle]

Its polarizing 😎 forgive the pun I couldn't help it lmao but like, a third of Polar wanna villain, a third of Polar wanna be helpful, and another third are just dumb, so it comes across as very conflicting at times

[cyan violet]

Shroud coming over to TnL when he isn't a MMO player is not the same as a multi time Glad staying competitive in his respective title.

[sick mantle]

Then why were you listing non MMO games in a discussion about competitive MMO guilds earlier. Your brain is cooked.

[calm saddle]

Skill is skill big dog, Kufa came over to tnl from being a League challenger in professional teams and dogwalked 99% of the game, some people have it, some people don't, WoW's a different kind of pvp mmo then any eastern game we play, and also different then Ashes

[cyan violet]

Because if you were a competitive MMO player you'd be in a competitive MMO, whos brain is cooked?

[inner prawn]

eastern games combat is far superior

[calm saddle]

outside of bdo I think this is very debatable because there's almost always significant class imbalance or hard counter or op classes

[sick mantle]

Why did the competitive MMO guilds that come get rolled then? Shouldn't have they curb stomped us by your standards and definitions? Your brain is cooked.

[inner prawn]

literally carrying Aion 2

[calm saddle]

like tnl was shit as a competitive mmo because gs/dagger was the undisputed king for small scale that dogwalked any and every other build in the game and flashwave was the undisputed rvr king

[sick mantle]

Solvryn bouta come and say the last competitive MMO was EQ and DAOC............

[inner prawn]

AA, BnS, Aion 1 all have better combat than western MMOs besides Gw2 and Wildstar

[cyan violet]

NW and TnL arent competitive titles, are they? So I'll ask you again, name one relevant guild from a competitive title thats come over here?

[sick mantle]

BnS combat was so fun

[calm saddle]

nah bns not on that list, 10+ second cc combo from an assassin? definitely not applicable

[inner prawn]

Well I did like NW combat

[sick mantle]

I named three like 35 min ago. Not my fault you got early stages of dementia man. Scroll up or ctrl+f my comments

[cyan violet]

You aren't really picking up what I'm putting down, the answer is none.

[inner prawn]

it's flawed but it's ahead of western mmo combat

[calm saddle]

I dunno, western mmos don't have much in the way of successful mmos. I think gw1 and gw2 combat were both better then bns, and you said Wildstar. WoW pvp is automatically gonna be a +1 simply due to sheer size scale of subbed players compared to anything else. I can't think of any other western mmos, that star wars game? No idea if it even had pvp

[inner prawn]

Star Wars combat was clunky

[cyan violet]

Huttball was the best BG map though.

[inner prawn]

WoW flows well it's not bad i just hate all the CC that WoW has and arena gameplay of addons and macros to just understand the game

[calm saddle]

I don't mind a lot of CC if there's a decent amount of CC break options, that's partially why I didn't really care for AA combat, 1 cc break is just

[cyan violet]

they're fixing that, too late. but hey.

[inner prawn]

never played GW1 but i am a huge fan of GW2 combat

[calm saddle]

GW1 was very team reliant but that is like, its whole core thing, so pvp was super rewarding, anyone decent always grouped up etc

[inner prawn]

Crowfall was complete trash

[calm saddle]

BDO king of vibe pvp imo, large group pvp its pretty meh, small scale its also really good

[inner prawn]

i wasn't a fan of ESO's combat but I know a lot of people enjoyed it

but I also liked TnLs combat on Staff/Dagger

[cyan violet]

GW1 was probably the best imo.

[calm saddle]

4 more days or something like that

[viral wagon]

pre-CP ESO was good, early CP was alright, and about anything post-Greymoor was awful

[cyan violet]

ESO had a chance to be good, but I genuinely think the devs abandoned PvP wholesale after the lightning patch. Wanted to separate PvP and PvE only to have the best gear for PvP locked behind PvE.

[viral wagon]

they definitely did abandon pvp early on once they figured out their money came from housing and that sort of thing

[calm saddle]

They couldn't fix Cyrodiil lag and eventually just stopped trying I imagine

[viral wagon]

Cyrodiil sieges are probably the best siege gameplay on the market still, even with ESO combat being utter dogshit atm

[calm saddle]

I am glad that my ESO pvp time was during some of the best times ESO ever had, too bad I missed out on the early days

[viral wagon]

what class and mag/stam would you've played at launch though

[main spire]

God I loved saturday siege with like 1000 people

[calm saddle]

prolly same thing I already was, templar, and end up being a healer because 99% of healers sucked ass in that game

[cyan violet]

I played all the specs, but Magblade gave me my melee-mage itch for a while.

[viral wagon]

breath of life through walls baby

[calm saddle]

crit heal holy light or just spam healing springs, yum

also because I was crit build I hit like a truck in small scale too, it worked for awhile

[stoic cape]

Early days of ESO were terrible due to game breaking bugs. I remember when it first released you had people literally flying around cyrodiil spamming meteor ults on people's heads lol

[viral wagon]

that was closer to CP release and not launch

[calm saddle]

oh ik and emps was also broken as hell, but still, woulda been fun for the people, the ESO pvp crowd were really tight knit

Even after 3 months of living in Cyrodiil I still wasn't welcome amongst most of those circles, but then again I didn't really try to make friends back then either, I just wanted good pvp

[viral wagon]

felt the same like every mmo imo

well besides the crazy amount of people who it was their first mmo

[stoic cape]

ESO PvP and Cyrodiil was some of the most fun PVP in any game imo. Endless 24/7 large scale pvp. Zergs / ball groups dominated, but it also had enough anti-zerg mechs, where 1 guy could bomb a group of 40+. Then of course you had massive troll tanks that would never die (but also couldnt do damage so everyone ignored them). Siege weapons galore. Every game has its balancing issues, but overall ESO did a pretty good job at balancing classes AND group sizes.

Its was the endless cyrodiil lag that they never fixed that was the roughest part.

[calm saddle]

Sieges of Chalman as we push on EP scrolls and then all of the EP monsters come out of the woodwork and we run back to Chalman thinking we're gonna hold it and then flee for our lives as a tide of hundreds of reds comes streaming through the forests and dropping a dozen+ catapults

[cyan violet]

I gotta get my fight in with whoever did infinite invisible bats from MH

[viral wagon]

the last emp keep, all inners are down, you're fighting both enemy factions in a 1v2 and you last for hours as a faction and eventually win

[calm saddle]

me stopping EP doing overnight capping with 10 brave warriors and half a dozen random night owls over a Aleswell siege that lasted four hours

[cyan violet]

I miss Coldfire Siege pre nerf

[calm saddle]

16 brave warriors held the Alamo that day against a hundred+ commies, democracy stood strong

[viral wagon]

you missed the heyday of nightcapping. At launch AD had locked pop versus 1 bar EP/DC for about 8 hours of the day because of Oceanic stacking AD

[stoic cape]

Getting a successful scroll run in, or baiting a large group into and around tower with the scroll to bomb them over and over on chokes

[calm saddle]

the lore I know about that is that Fengrush represented the oceanic nerds on DC and then K-Hole and Chuck Norris pissed off Fengrush because they called him shit so he took all the oceanic players and hopped over to EP lmfao

[stoic cape]

Yall bringing back such good memories lol

[viral wagon]

way before K-Hole was a thing is what I was talking about. At that time K-Hole was different guilds, original DiE and NM plus others

[cyan violet]

I was the dick who locked down Bloodthorn for Red 8)

[calm saddle]

yeh ur from the ancient histories of ESO, pre f2p rework

Tamriel Unchained or whatever it was called

[viral wagon]

pre-1.6 days baby

[stoic cape]

I remember before the "one tamriel" update, when you had faction locked zones lol

[calm saddle]

That was it, one tamriel I think, when they removed the sub to play the game, that's when I picked it up.

[cyan violet]

heh i played it on beta.

[stoic cape]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671

[calm saddle]

I was a brokie so no sub games for me back then, played bdo launch and then I went to eso when it went f2p I think

[viral wagon]

vet ranks and having to unlock other factions zones/quests for your 2nd/3rd leveling brackets or w/e they called that garbage

[cyan violet]

Im gonna save this because I get this shit from these youngins all the time.

[calm saddle]

v16 was kinda free to get tbh, champ points was still the longest grind by far

[viral wagon]

the people who whined about leveling vet ranks were just genuinely redacts since CP grinding was more xp req

[calm saddle]

yeh, I started cyrodiil at like v2 and it was fine, I couldn't kill anyone, but no one could kill me easily either because I just threw on heavy armor and had like 40k hp

[viral wagon]

that and they had it uncapped early on so people were just pve heroing to have a massive CP advantage

[calm saddle]

I wanna say I'd go back for an eso fresh start but prolly not, early days were shit

[cyan violet]

ESO is done brother, they did some mix and match thing.

[viral wagon]

ESO is definitely over for pvp. They're changing Cyro massively soonish

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/685603/community-update-vengeance-testing-cyrodiil/p1

[cyan violet]

they didnt figure this shit out before the lighting patch?

[viral wagon]

ZoS are just idiots tbh. They keep adding in proc sets,CP passives with a lot of calculations etc and wonder why performance is shit. And then they let the problem fester so long that they have to massively gut their pvp to compensate

[cyan violet]

Agreed, they had the fucking answer infront of their face since beta when there werent a bajillion sets and all you needed was some stats and g2g. I remember posting on the forums about it and now they're fucking figuring it out. What it really is, they're too lazy to have the havoc engine fixed (which is broken). It makes zero sense.

[worn gust]

Guild of Shadows sacrificing their accounts to make ZOS get anticheat. RIP Zazeer

[viral wagon]

that propaganda from zazeer as cope was funny

[worn gust]

Yeah he was pretty funny. Miss a lot of the GoS crew. I pretty much stopped playing when some of them went to console to club new bros when they opened up character copys from PC. That, and all the performance issues and not wanting to stay on the CP/farm the new proc set every DLC treadmill

Zaz's forum propaganda was 🔥

Really hoping intrepid doesn't go too far down the procset path and learn from ZOS example

[cyan violet]

well you better get on em because we're already there.

[rugged apex]

Supple down giga bad

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/ui-ouch-gif-25596228

[hushed grove]

The sheer unfettered cope of people thinking that they're fighting guilds that matter / that are actually showing up to a realistic degree in an alpha/product with a literal 3 digit pvp pop is wild anyways

Even TnL with the 6 figure CCU counts didn't foster enough attention/dedication from guilds for me to feel like we scored actual meaningful wins against anyone beyond on-paper victories - which is to say, even for TnL people weren't showing up with full rosters and dedication, and Ashes may as well be <DDO/Rift/AgeofConan/insertothergamewithnopvppop> in regards to what people are facing, psure not a single pvp guild showed up with a realistic showing of what their peaks were

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/shawn-michaels-the-undertaker-wwe-wrestle-mania-wrestling-gif-12407174

[cyan violet]

TnL and NW arent important, they just not titles that fostered competition.

[hushed grove]

Which, I should clarify, isn't to talk down at any of the guilds poking around ashes, quite the opposite actually (It would be equivalent to fighting a handful of people with a tag on like a survival game and then saying that it's relevant), it's simply a sad fact that Ashes isn't even the RvR game choice for basically anyone within the subgenre at this time and it has the pvp player pool of decades-old dead mmo's - with guild representation to match

[main spire]

What would be a game you'd consider worth in that regard?

[hushed grove]

I don't think that we've had one in a long time, hence why I wont talk down about any of the guilds that we fought on <TnL as an example>... Because who but a rare few apes are actually going to full commit to that rubbish?

Pride should be stemmed from worthy sources - and facing half efforts or partial rosters or dying embers, ect... It's not worth taking pride in.

To give a TnL reference (as bad as the game was) right, basically every guild on Xeroth beat up Eph when it went there for a week after Alec's fiasco - but it's hollow / there's no pride to be taken / it means nothing - reduced (albeit not small) roster & no alec / no spirit, there's no joy of actually overcoming something there, it was just vulturing something that isn't what it was or could be

Ashes will hopefully be that game someday but right now it's a backwater

[rough silo]

So many delusions in here.

[main spire]

The same thing happened on NW when Alec got bored and hung it up, the remnants that time renamed to Soup Kitchen though cus we knew what was coming. But as good as the mechanics were on NW it was still a busted ass game from the rip to the end.

[inner prawn]

NW and TnL unfortunately have been the only MMO that had mattered in the last 5 years. Can't exactly discredit them though.

[drifting herald]

Ones literally dead and the other is dying ! Can’t exactly credit them

[inner prawn]

Because you weren't playing and if you did you were dog shit so you claim it didnt matter. They were popping at one point higher than most MMOs and had huge guilds playing them.

[drifting herald]

That’s not because the game was good lol, it’s cuz that’s how games work now , it’s all
Hype latest and greatest flocks , that’s why everyone left to the next one

[rough silo]

mattered based on what? Ill bite this bread

[main spire]

Ya, top of the shit heap but it was somethin', errybody desperate. BDO was decent too.

[rough silo]

I mean what the credential to matter? BDO still "strong".

[drifting herald]

Yea no way there’s correlation between throne and BDO success lol

[earnest garden]

I hope everyone had a fantastic weekend! and for the Americans, a very heart warming time with family and friends.

[fair roost]

Tnl and new world competitive 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ty for shit posting everyone. Next thing this channel will be saying is aion 2 is filled with gamers. Must be the 4 feet of snow making you guys crazy smh

[rough silo]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[main spire]

Competitive and mmo together is kinda the whole joke but pop off king

[rough silo]

Get that pma out of my arena of words

[hasty gyro]

Watching Godchii play conquerors blade last night looked like it had better pvp than NW/TNL personally

[spiral spindle]

[flat furnace]

All of the pro fps and moba players watching MMO players talk about being competitive and top tier

[rough silo]

Is hard tbh, bc you have to min macro a lot, is cool concept sadly didn't catch on west

[hasty gyro]

It actually looked pretty interesting cause they were warring over a capitol. Only thing that seemed cringe was alt f4ing to have faster troop cycles

[rough silo]

It has flaws yea, as someone that is a huge fan of dynasty/samurai warriors, conquerors is actually fun

[hasty gyro]

Yeah had no idea wtf I was watching. Thought at first Godchii was in charge of actually like 15-20 ppl but then found out it’s like 15 ppl alive at once and a rotating door of people controlling unit. Kinda like a third person RTS it seemed. Didnt see much of actual combat

[rough silo]

Should check yt for actual high rank gameplay is actually very chess like

[drifting herald]

I’m pvping waking up with trying to go back to bed and the wake is winning

[drifting herald]

MOBAs like league are the best pvp games, quick login, quick match setups , quick load , instant action packed player versus player , rinse and repeat

[ripe gorge]

As someone that was there ^

[sick mantle]

Yeah keep Aion 2 out of your mouth you Blizzard grape victim

[inner prawn]

BDO has not been relevant in the last 5 to 6 years lets be honest.

[inner prawn]

No other MMO has been as big with the amount of competition as those 2 games in the last 5 years.

[main spire]

Ya I meant before that

[hushed grove]

Honestly yeah

The premise of conqueror's blade was so good, the game is meh but it's such a good idea in theory

The rts element mixed into things and providing a much larger feel was a very neat decision, it would be nice to see a successor some day

[rough silo]

is based on a style of game that no a lot of ppl are into to.

[hushed grove]

Is definitely more niche

Although I wonder if the concept of filling numbers with player commanded bots could be applied without everyone having to engage with the rts mode would work

[rough silo]

I would argue that the "competition" is based on how hype the game got before hand. I can also argue that any mmorpg that shroud touches that is new it dies very quickly 🤣 ( I dont mean this is just funny to me )

[inner prawn]

Yea in the past BDO was very competitive and definitely more so overall imo than those 2 games. I am referring to games since 2020 those 2 games have been the most competitive MMOs as far as PvP goes.

[inner prawn]

You make Fratucure online MMO videos stop yapping dude.

[rough silo]

Oh man you stopped by my channel? Thanks

You played garbage swipe chinese albion slop but whats the point here?

[hushed grove]

Speaking of things that not a lot of people are into...

Predictions on steamcharts numbers in a few weeks? Are we going to be at NW levels, CB levels or like... MO2 levels for peak ccu?

[rough silo]

50k

[inner prawn]

I seen your trash cause you been yapping getting while getting farmed in AoC for how long now?

[sick mantle]

Giving PUBG a run for it's money.

[rough silo]

I see your trash because you brag about "winning" in swipe to win, you dont touch AoC and yet you stay here to yap again whats the point here?

[hushed grove]

ashes has the most p2w design of most of the things of the past few years lol

[inner prawn]

I literally have won majority of the MMOs I have took serious not just swipe games but nice try.

[rough silo]

You won majority of mmo's?

[viral wagon]

I'm betting pantheon levels on steam charts within 3 months

[hasty gyro]

Yepppp and a lot of ppl don’t think about that or choose to ignore it

[hushed grove]

Like just on a base level, if we compare p2w between Ashes (intended finished design) and what we've had in the past ~ half of a decade, it would fall at ~above archeage unchained levels of p2w

In the same format as well, it doesn't really matter if it's company side or not if it's still going to be prevalent due to intended designs.

Some of the games with company-side P2W like TnL have actually been pretty mild in comparison, the gap was like... 2 weeks of playing between omega whaling and just not (at least pre archboss weapons)

[rough silo]

I dont care about p2w tbh, company needs to make money to pay people so it can make content.

[rough silo]

we having argument about proposed design from 2020 that is p2w again?

[inner prawn]

Oh for sure and it's gonna get wild if this games ever takes off.

[hushed grove]

It's not an argument, everyone with common sense knows this - it's a mirror to the type of progression and p2w from AAU

[rough silo]

I blame disposable income people.

Imagine a world without people with disposable income where you could only spend $20 per month in subs per game...

[sick mantle]

More chinese have their eye on this game because of Steam EA. Frankly Steam EA is the perfect phase for swipers.

[cyan violet]

They’ll catch on. I already dropped the list

[cyan violet]

That metric bears no meaning until we see the updated archetype kits.

[kindred wadi]

Unless it’s archeage

@inner prawn aion gaming today?

[kindred wadi]

True! Aren’t they releasing classic or did I make that up

[inner prawn]

Yes, NCSOFT actually cooked besides the 2 subs and 2 battle passes

[lilac harness]

They're doing GW Reforged which is a large overhaul of GW1 with several polished features. It will be free to anyone who owns any gw title otherwise it is 20 bucks. They are not doing fresh servers or wiping anything for it, though, so that has left a lot of people upset who were hype for it.

[kindred wadi]

Can you hold halls?

Oh nvm no fresh servers

[lilac harness]

Right. Most people I know were super hype about it, we had all these plans, and now no one gives a shit.

[kindred wadi]

Yeah if it’s not fresh why would I not just log into my old acc

[lilac harness]

You would. You'd have all your old stuff. People are going to have like 15 years on new players.

[kindred wadi]

Yeah it’s not worth

[rough silo]

Theres titles in gw1 that are borderline absurd to get, imagine that wiped out 🤣 Some would legit commit

[hushed grove]

Is it not actually trash?

I heard PvE TnL but more mobile game-ey and basically dismissed it from thought

[inner prawn]

Surprisingly it's good if you liked Aion 1

[inner prawn]

Combat is better, its does have way better pve than TnL, combat isn't a zvz

[cyan violet]

I hope GW3 gets the best shit from GW1 and GW2

[cyan violet]

Is it the same PvP set up as Aion 1

CHAINER MY BELOVED, you’re back

[hushed grove]

Are you a big fan of chains?

[inner prawn]

it can be zergy but not the TnL 4 guild zerg i should say

[kindred wadi]

Gw2 was fine until stab change and condi buff etc

HoTs

[inner prawn]

gw3 they need to make it open world pvp and castle claims instead of the rvr

[cyan violet]

Have you ever played Kilik from Soul Caliber?

[cyan violet]

I looked at every new spec and it’s the same shit. New Spec and Spear

[cyan violet]

@hushed grove Just super smooth

[drifting herald]

Hey , I resemble that remark

[grizzled magnet]

Aion 2 kinda shit tbh, if you like league of legends you'll like it

[shut rune]

i consent to that being told to me

[grizzled magnet]

@vathon da says k y s

[lilac harness]

Looks like you're saying that. Kinda wild.

[grizzled magnet]

🥵

[rough silo]

@agile ivy ppl not fond of the last video huh

[agile ivy]

Hmmmm not sure 🤔

[rough silo]

just reading the comments lol

[agile ivy]

Oh…yea some do and some don’t. 🤷‍♂️

[drifting herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJCDQCnrKKM?si=MHezhHKBFAKSTdfh

lol ^

[warped mural]

Remember its the season of giving!

[sick mantle]

Can't wait to purchase my world first stickers from the Overlord guild merch shop 😻

[unreal tide]

https://youtu.be/vi8_F9olugg?si=UOFsw3Cbt4km024T&t=883

[inner prawn]

Couldn't be me dying to BRs

[drifting herald]

You’re the best !

[inner prawn]

Thanks pal!!!!

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-sarcastic-whatever-you-say-obviously-captain-obvious-gif-26129622

[sick mantle]

Imagine lying to your guild members and feeding them cope to make themselves feel better after the ass blasting you got. Couldn't be me smh. Id just kick the under performers (entire guild) smh. @lofty wyvern

[shut rune]

never seen cats with abs dodge once in my life

idk what makes them think theyll start doing it now

[sick mantle]

Supple AoC accomplishments:

1. Dodged two sieges (filled one with alts)
2. Lost every guild war to POLAR
3. Got farmed small scale by Cats With Abs
4. Lost two back to back World Boss fights 100v50 against POLAR who had lvl 10 grey weapons after the Carphin purge.
5. Got so hilariously ass blasted they begged Intrepid to ban POLAR.

[dense minnow]

ngl thats weak shit. Game is gonna be fire this wipe

[shut rune]

i mean id quit too if I bought that much gold just for it to be wiped

[sick mantle]

LINIKER WOULD NEVER DODGE TWO SIEGES AND GET FARMED BY CATS

now we got a rat trying to poach smh:

[rugged apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1353138507761193010/1445184382162702466/Screenshot_20251201_164537_Discord.jpg?ex=692f6c56&is=692e1ad6&hm=3c05cc5a3c7492c998a5fbd4836792694b1d93b04a8d8db44b8a06f8a247959f&=&format=webp&width=432&height=960

[earnest garden]

sir, charge your phone, im worried about your batteries health.

[sick mantle]

iitss a nokia 16%=2 more days of battery

[earnest garden]

i miss old nokias, ngl.

[polar veldt]

Unfortunate about Supple. Im sure theyll be back at some point 😄

[gleaming blade]

They will - just temporary

[rugged apex]

nah supple is dead

[sick mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/eph-gif-17044371544092849537

[rugged apex]

HAHAHAHAH

[rough silo]

https://tenor.com/view/dwyerkev-chris-pratt-andy-dwyer-boring-sleeping-gif-23328885

[drifting herald]

This made me laugh lol

[sick mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/pogchamp-pog-pogey-poggers-twitch-gif-14340727

[earnest garden]

https://tenor.com/view/jordan-stop-it-gif-15830202965985496707

[sick mantle]

holy shit we got an extra 150+ ppl JUST for this phase??

[earnest garden]

i cant wait for the steam users to ripple in.

[rough silo]

I think more polar boys need to drop official discord

[lilac harness]

https://tenor.com/view/black-water-drop-gif-12267940557526260425

[rough silo]

Just leave mugsy and coot

[drifting herald]

Just coot

[zealous vapor]

It's always surprising to me that people who got banned from even logging into the game for getting caught exploiting, not once but twice, and who harbor RMTers and people who have scammed community members to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars, seek to draw attention to themselves.

Then these same people complain that their mental health is very negatively impacted while telling other people to kill themselves (recorded).

I dunno, just seems like super weird antisocial behavior.

[sick mantle]

supple counnt as steam grandpas with their performance

[rough silo]

Can you do that @rugged apex ? Do an announcement ping that if any polar member that is not coot caught yapping in here is 50 lashes and have to listen to yellow sing country?

[drifting herald]

When the steam grandpa’s spanks the shit out of the steam zoomers cuz zoomers don’t play mmorpgs ! Yea it’ll happen

[drifting herald]

It has to be “ the stars at night are big and bright ….”

[rough silo]

Your Bois are exhausting man

[rugged apex]

Yoooo this is a crazy fan fic! You seem really broken hahahaha

[rough silo]

We even haven't started the phase again and man's already draining energy from others

[zealous vapor]

You know what's funny is that you knew I was talking about you without me even saying your name.

Way to tell on yourself, smart guy 👍

[drifting herald]

Clowns are usually funny ngl

[rugged apex]

You typed instantly after me haha low iq much?

[drifting herald]

Instantly after

[zealous vapor]

Fast thumbs, I go to the gym while you work on that glorious neckmane

That or I had it in the holster because you're just that predictable.

You're fuckin boring.

[rugged apex]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-13669406505701813608

[rough silo]

Leave mugsy alone man, he's Rusty

[sick mantle]

It's so sad what Barcode hass become. Taking in dow n i e gamer dads like mara jade and amalgamemnon sad days ahead

[zealous vapor]

Wow, posting a low effort meme, definitely disproving the whole "most boring terminally online neckbeard alive" theory.

[sick mantle]

I remember when Barcode was a POGGERS p2 power house now they are just limp 😔

[fair roost]

nvr really understood why people thought supple would come back. they joined for the worst phase got absolutely slaughtered while leveling then did absolutely nothing at max level besides role play alliances with the entire server? doesn't sound like a success story to me man. sounds like a dead guild

[zealous vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-yoink-gif-26015429

Come on, respond. Do it. Prove me right.

[rugged apex]

Yoo why are you talking about irl in a video game discord? No one believes a thing you type we’re all just laughing at you

[zealous vapor]

GOT EEM

[rugged apex]

Ya bro we get it you’re 50 yrs old and you just learned to type

[earnest garden]

ooo fishing! can't wait to fulfil my fisherman life!

[ocean kraken]

I've been here a few weeks and those are two of the most insufferable people I've ever come across in discord, Barcode looks like a guild to avoid big time.

[drifting herald]

Hey I’m to famous , I’m on all the scumbags k list !

[drifting herald]

Get a nice Shimano setup

[drifting herald]

Who ?

[placid tangle]

I thought someone posting in here was banned? What I miss?

[drifting herald]

Who knows , I don’t think they even know what they are talking g shit for or what the end goal is ! Either way it makes for some great memes

[dense minnow]

@sick oar your UI is not big enough, you can still see your character. Maybe a bigger font size

[hasty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

just got home from work is there vendors to fuck around with

[drifting herald]

Idk there’s quite a few people streaming ashes right now

I went around dropped some follows , spread some ashes love to most of them

[sick oar]

RYVE'S OLD BUDDY

[dense minnow]

thats 60+ year old UI tho, ngl

[dusk terrace]

rip my van, you will not be missed

[novel stag]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[weak robin]

Love alliance, BoF and BoP OP

[viral wagon]

I was scrolling to see what I missed but stopped bothering when I saw the usual 3rd grade manipulation attempts to get people to play this next wipe lol

Also, anyone who doesn't send me 50 USD is a coward and is dodging

[half coral]

next phase will be better(it won't be) 😔

ngl I've never seen devs tank their plyasebase than with the changes made last phase, that shit was full on criminal (inb4 it's just alpha spammers)

[weak robin]

Idk if theres any mass zug zug zergaholics anymore

[sick oar]

people hate ryves big ui and big blue mouse cursor more than ryves big letters

ryve likes big things, dont fault ryve for what ryve likes

[viral gulch]

CATS BEST DEFENSE THIS PHASE TECHNICALLY

[light fable]

14ft ?

[drifting herald]

bass pole prolly closer to 6 or 7

[sick mantle]

bro didn't play warborne

[half coral]

⚠️ severe fan in the chat ⚠️

[earnest garden]

You gonna admit it yet? Or hide behind one of your many unsold PI accounts?

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

[marble sky]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-duval-popcorn-eating-hungry-gif-15804837318904581506

[wispy oracle]

@POOLAR don't forget about /bug this time around

[sick mantle]

🤣

[fair roost]

atleast we won't have supple leadership asking for perma-bans this time 🙁

[covert chasm]

whoa whoa, the server cant handle the weight of all the polar boys at once

[sick mantle]

"Yeah guys we got our shit pushed in for a month theres no competition left" - Supple leadership

[fair roost]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-9283896756814937503

[wispy oracle]

make sure tmx doesnt get perma banned by the time we're back

[fair roost]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-funny-good-one-gif-10820434279148874810

[wispy oracle]

I honestly have never seen any of you in game, did you even play

[sick mantle]

I pray Alec brings back EPH or xyz brings Grey instead Supple was such a disappointment.

[fair roost]

@prime escarp bring the brazillian hordes back coward

[wispy oracle]

You guys must be the crafters, I'll hit you up for bis mining routes when we play again

[fair roost]

https://tenor.com/view/knee-slap-spongebob-patrick-gif-14467312336653892060

[sick mantle]

I'ma see if Dusty uploads all his streams. Watching Cats dog on Supple while leveling was the funniest shit ever. Casual dad gamers mogging HARDCORE ACCOMPLISHED MEGA GUILD SUPPLE

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-go-where-he-at-travolta-gif-10649770

[sick mantle]

Don't worry we'll make sure to feed you more Enveus P1 leveling guides.

What's crazy is that keilosh and the trout gang bois had a better time with polar in 2.5 😔 i bet they miss winning

[wispy oracle]

you've been holding this in for a while huh, anyway gl with beta testing the game for us

[drifting herald]

that guy whats his name kassi or some shit , dude is a piece

[sick mantle]

Will do, gonna have fun PvPin real guilds in phase 3.5

[earnest garden]

Phase 2.85 now with red haze and fish!

[sick mantle]

phase 1.9 do we even have everything promised for P2?

[earnest garden]

Almost!

[sick mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/jfc-omg-no-smoking-cigarette-smoke-head-shake-gif-18161146778440886047

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/goober-goober-spotted-jarvis-goober-spotted-iron-man-goober-spotted-gif-16236198662133314025

[calm saddle]

"real guilds" like who AHAHAHAH sir I'm sorry to tell you this but aoc just ain't it yet...though I still hold out copium that it will be

[sick mantle]

any random down i e AoC guild > Supple

[drowsy abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/1111-gif-27421331

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-mikarochu-noobs-dab-yall-noobs-gif-14657196

[cyan violet]

https://tenor.com/view/yawn-cat-lion-kitten-adorable-gif-17872944

[foggy locust]

Not even true, Im literally the ONLY person who can legitimately back up their solo pvp claims with video proof. The cope is people saying because its a game they dont like, it doesn't count.

Show me proof of your pvp prowess or stfu dude.

Like I said above, show me proof of your solo pvp efforts and not you hiding behind a zerg taking pot shots and maybe I'll give you the time of day.

[calm saddle]

wdym ur the only person who can legitimately back up their solo pvp claims with video proof I've seen ur eso solo vids, they were mostly you bullying shitters

[grizzled magnet]

solo pvp doesn't count because it's entirely based on what class u pick tbh, show some small scale vods

[foggy locust]

It was 1v14 lol and they were all similar rank or a couple below.

[lilac harness]

Are you okay? You're replying to people from 6 days ago.

I love how you discredit large scale pvp, and you only care about "solo" pvp prowess. I find that funny.

[calm saddle]

I played eso, I've seen exactly what a rat solo player can do to shitters. I've seen what a rat solo tried to do to my small gank squad too, and it never ended well for them lol

[foggy locust]

I havent been on in 6 days lol. Thats what tags are for.. are you okay, you may have early onset dementia if you forget what tagging is for mate.

[lilac harness]

I don't think either of those people tagged you.

[foggy locust]

They did.

[lilac harness]

It looks like replies to me. The plot thickens.

[foggy locust]

Wasnt even a rat solo, at the time I was one of only maybe a dozen people who had proxy det, and this was me testing it out and I wiped the floor with a raid group.

I even paused my opener because some rando ran in that I didn't notice haha.

I called out p2w guilds in Neverwinter and they offered me out, so I did what any proper pvper would do.. I took out all 3 guild leaders on my own 1v3.. No one here can match my level of proof. The only videos people have of them pvping is hiding behind groups of 20+ taking potshots, or abusing exploited abilities 😛

"bad game, don't count" is the response I always get.
I have more claims but due to my original channel being deleted and losing the footage I don't say them as I dont have proof. It's as simple as that.. Proof or fucking silence.

"Im da best at pvpz" so fuckin show proof of you pvping, not 47 other randos and you getting the last hit on a few people.

[drifting herald]

This poor dude https://medal.tv/games/fortnite/clips/ltf2l9qfVIh63Adr5

[winged kettle]

I wanna see your solo pvp prowess drops some clips

[winged kettle]

https://youtu.be/M9gaWqTSk_s?si=Gx7g_b0ssgirq7_H

Is this what u are talking about ? It was 9 years ago 😂 😹 🤣

[viral wagon]

link? who was he in ESO?

scratch that, actually read chat fully KEKW

oh console ESO in 2015 lol

[steep furnace]

that was the most scuffed combat ever lol

[foggy locust]

A lotta words from people who aren't showing anything.

[winged kettle]

Old head

[light fable]

Oh nice i mostly surfcast of the beach or rocks with my 14ft now that its summer I better blow the cobwebs off

[prime escarp]

lots of BR guilds popping up I have faith one of my children will bring back our glory 🙏🏻

if they dont I disown them from my blood

[inner prawn]

Watch your mouth idk who you are talking to dude. Play a real game you bum cause if you did you'd know wtf I've done.

Talking about some ESO console crap shut your dumbass up lol

[rough silo]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[hallow hare]

Lmfao

[inner prawn]

My dude is out here on the joysticks on his ps4 flaunting Neverwinter PvP clips lmao

https://youtu.be/nKNgFR0EzVE?si=HzxwTwCuUlJtOSbU

Lmao this is your clip big dawg?

[limpid kayak]

Did you .. go and track that down?

Not hating I'm just impressed, I am out of my depth in this bracket 😂

[winged kettle]

Hahahaha how good

[inner prawn]

Just click his profile shows his YouTube

[main spire]

@inner prawn Oh is that zyz Grey? Say hi to tim for me

[inner prawn]

Yes, will do.

[main spire]

[violet lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/idiots-hancock-youre-all-idiots-gif-14661858

[inner prawn]

He said Hello as well

[drifting herald]

Get a room

https://tenor.com/view/dance-brainrot-meme-indonesia-race-aura-farming-delaware-river-crossing-the-delaware-river-gif-2318305758019499741

[main spire]

Damn I was hoping to get slurred

[inner prawn]

Haha

[spiral spindle]

[rough silo]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-suspicious-cat-suspicious-cat-gif-9601770602284137045

[main spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1264323332300345457/1379356954685739018/IMG_20250429_011740_089.gif

[foggy locust]

As ususal, talking big with nothing to show. Poser.

I can be like Hyyez too and say..
I went 1v20 in WoW on my prot pally back in legion and won..
I was the first oceanic level 60 in WoW Classic that didn't abuse layering and 400 friends.
I kicked a lot of your asses in Elyon/Astellia and watched you rage in channels gone about how they were bad games.
I went 1v8 in Bless and didn't even drop below half HP
I made a build so strong in AA that I could go toe to toe with multiple ascended players and win. (I actually have screencap proof of this one.)

But I like showing proof for my shit.

[calm saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-i-dont-even-know-who-you-are-marvel-gif-15769006

[foggy locust]

That's fine, you will when the game launches 🙂

I just love how people can sit and talk shit on someone who can show proof of what they claim, when having nothing to show for themselves hahaha

[calm saddle]

I mean, I have no video proof, because I didn't see the point of recording ofr years and now I'm past the point of caring. Reputation also matters, people don't forget other skilled players

[foggy locust]

People forget players the minute they change their name in another game.

[calm saddle]

I mean, why change your name unless you got something to hide? a name's a brand

[lilac harness]

Guys I hit glad in 2v2 arena in cata running double blood dk. im l33t gamr.

[calm saddle]

Also, guild is still relevant. Rhasq has a different name basically every single game he plays, but people know who Trout Gang/MM are, etc

[foggy locust]

When your name gets hundreds of people to band together to find you and stop you from doing stuff, it's needed.

Trout gang has been a troll guild since old mate did the selling trout skit in OSRS. It's a joke.

[foggy locust]

But keep asking players how to turn off action mode in games my guy and thinking youre hot shit.

[calm saddle]

Them being a "troll" guild doesn't change the fact that people know they have hands and that they know how to fight. Also, unless ur a big named streamer, it ain't that big of a deal if people hunt you down

[calm saddle]

lol what're you talking about?

[drifting herald]

Who ? wtf is trout ? Is that a guild that Ain’t no one in ashes have as a guild tag ?

[foggy locust]

Key word, they.
50 people can steamroll 5 no matter the skill level mate.

[drifting herald]

I mean you did ask how to turn it off ! And I gave you free gear, not sure why you decided to come for me in discord when I did nothing but help you

[calm saddle]

high tier copium and you know it, if you expect people to give you any consideration of relevancy you can't just shoot down others saying, "oh they zerged" lol no, trout gang is known to have hands

[foggy locust]

I've never expected relevancy in a discord where people can shit on someone showing proof just because its a game they dont like or a platform they dont like 😛

[calm saddle]

oh, ashes? Congratulations if that's what we're quoting its a game I have checks notes maybe 10 hours into for a2 and that I don't care about to remember how to do things

[drifting herald]

Right but you’re acting like you’re good at games , and I haven’t seen it , I’d argue quite the exact opposite

[calm saddle]

or maybe they shit on you because ur kind of annoying about it. I'm not gonna rehash old stuff we already talked about, but I already talked to you about ur ESO videos, they aren't as impressive as you think they are, everyone's seen hundreds of montage clips of some "chad" 1vxing and its just him putting down randos

[foggy locust]

So go do it yourself.

[calm saddle]

except most relevant guilds know me or who I am and no one has any idea who you are, we're in different worlds, I really don't care if you don't want to realize that

[drifting herald]

Like who though ? And what games is the relevant at ?

[foggy locust]

If it's not impressive and anyone can do it, go do it yourself.

Id wager to say Im more known than you Kai, if I make a character in a game and name it Concepts I get surrounded by people asking if Im from the ashes discord lol

[calm saddle]

except I don't need to prove myself to everyone around me, I play at the level I play at and the right people know that, I don't have a chip on my shoulder needing verification

[drifting herald]

Bro lol , you don’t think I’ve played with a bunch in this community before , lol I promise you this , I have receipts of my mmorpg gaming history !

[foggy locust]

I dont name my character Concepts because literally hundreds upon hundreds of people in new release games grief me and steal my kills or just barricade me into leaving and then calling me a "dodger"

[drifting herald]

You have nothing but this fake word of mouth by a couple racist degens in here

[cyan violet]

I made a Psionic with a Peen so large I cockslapped the universe and separated it into pieces. 😎

[calm saddle]

Lol "hundreds upon hundreds of people" you're not that guy, Concepts, but alright, its like talking to a double set of brick walls

[foggy locust]

I knew that was you!

[drifting herald]

That’s easy I can do that in my sleep

[foggy locust]

Brother I jumped in to TnL with the name Concepts on console release.. I had entire guilds screaming in chat that they would pay to whoever brought proof of killing me

[viral wagon]

why are we still talking about the console eso player who clipped prox det'ing in a 3v4?

[foggy locust]

That F in Maths is really showing.

[drifting herald]

Well , I guess we”ll see how badass you are come the 11th huh ? Or you gonna dodge and just hang In discord trying to get people to think you’re noteworthy somehow ?

[wicked bone]

Console players man😂

[foggy locust]

It's 2026 almost and people still goin on about console v pc. Maybe curb the argument from when you were edgy in high school 🙂

[calm saddle]

I got baited into tryna talk him out of his delusions years later and I failed again, it wasn't worth it

[drifting herald]

When ashes ports to consoles !

[calm saddle]

I respect the consistency of the ego though, I'll give it that

[foggy locust]

An easy fix is to just post your proof, or if anyone else can post their proof.. but all I get is "I don't have enough of a chip on my shoulder to record pvp when I do it"

[wicked bone]

Does he play ashes or a different game? Im confused what the debate is about, just a lot of yappin

[foggy locust]

No one plays ashes mate, it's in a test phase. I do my testing and then hop off.

[viral wagon]

hiding friendly nameplates doesn't fool anyone 🤣

[calm saddle]

tl;dr concepts thinks anyone who doesn't have videos showcasing their skills is a liar but his own video proof isn't anything noteworthy and yet he insists hundreds of players put bounties out on him every game because of how good he is

[drifting herald]

Who Kai ? He doesn’t play mmorpgs he just plays discord

[foggy locust]

Thats been the general rule on the internet since its conception mate, proof or it's untrue.

[flat furnace]

I was a big deal in diablo 2 in 2004. You guys should really show me some damn respect

[wicked bone]

But what game does he want skills in?

[viral wagon]

lies, you were a magic find sorc main

[drifting herald]

Ranked top 5 player in the world in D2

[foggy locust]

I was the first oceanic platinum of d4 and had a build so good maxroll stole it and got booed off the discord for not giving credit.

[calm saddle]

I think anything really, just whatever "proves" that you can back up your talk, I guess?

[inner prawn]

Bro lmao

[foggy locust]

Here comes Hyezz, mr 3rd place to weigh in another proofless opinion again.

[flat furnace]

I was so ready for d4 but then it released.......

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/3rd-place-3rd-place-goes-to-minions-excited-gif-13153769

[foggy locust]

Ahahaha touche 😛

[calm saddle]

In the 7 or 8 years I've known you Concepts I have never seen you post proof anywhere of hundreds of players wanting your head. The ONLY thing I have seen is your dogshit montage videos on your Youtube you're so full of it sometimes man

[foggy locust]

Was just matching your energy mate.

[cyan violet]

I almost thought Dread Og was talking to himself for a second in here

[drifting herald]

At least he has some

[inner prawn]

I would body you 2 @foggy locust and @drifting herald at the same time. Play AoC Dec 11 and stop yapping

[calm saddle]

You've literally proclaimed shit like this since I've known you, and I've never seen anything from you that supports it. If you're this wanted, why wouldn't you be ssing all of it? The energy would be astounding to be that wanted, tbh

[drifting herald]

Na I won’t dodge like Kai

[void plaza]

i wish eu chat was this active

[inner prawn]

Play it and fight me or stfu

[foggy locust]

"I will body you 2 in a game Ive been no lifing to find exploited abilities to finally get 2nd place in pvp in an alpha test"

[wicked bone]

Youre Na now ado

[drifting herald]

Ok but if you get 3rd again , what happens then ?

[inner prawn]

Cause you bums would have caught an ass whooping in AA, BDO, GW2, TNL, NW and classic WoW

[cyan violet]

@calm saddle You did this didnt ya

[void plaza]

i ll start the phase on eu, i got some irl friends who wanna try the game, will join u boys after a couple of weeks after eu server dies

[inner prawn]

The most relevant games in the last 10 years that ya'll weren't part of

[foggy locust]

Show proof of how good you were in those games.

[calm saddle]

not intentionally...

[drifting herald]

Log into BDO gw2 AA and wow right now , I’ll wait

[wicked bone]

https://tenor.com/view/chirby-kirby-gif-3885542028546676161

[calm saddle]

woah watch out hyyez, Concepts had a build so good in AA that the devs rewrote the game to ban the build and his character, he'd put you in the dirt fr fr...

[cyan violet]

I never put it together until recently how many people remind me of Dread Og...

[foggy locust]

Lets all chuck a hyezz and say how good we were in games that we have not a single shred of proof of.

I went 1v20 in Legion on my prot pally.
I dominated PvP in classic WoW on Arugal
I had a build so good in AA I had people offering me marriage to find out what it was.
GW2 doesnt count cause I unintentionally found an exploit that allowed me to stack weapon damage and 1 shot everything.

[viral wagon]

arugal lol wtf

[inner prawn]

I am off at 5 p.m eat and AoC has the ptr up and I dont even know AoC and I'd put you down.

[foggy locust]

Hyyez go back to screenshotting year old FB posts to try to get people banned mate, probably the only thing you're still good at.

[drifting herald]

Bro you trip over a rock and land ass first on Kai’s lap eu goofball goo play Albion

[calm saddle]

my favorite was concepts saying he'd put me down in elyon when I don't even think he played the game

[wicked bone]

Can you link a video? Just wanna watch something while i eat

[foggy locust]

I never said I put YOU down specifically, but nice of you to fumble and say you remembered it.

[calm saddle]

woosh

[cyan violet]

I have come to realize that I am not where near equipped to understand this level of tism. I will humbly keep observing.

[calm saddle]

I'm kind of proud of how easily I can intentionally or unintentionally bait like 1k messages in this chat randomly, its fun

[foggy locust]

Im just rehashing my point.. Show proof, no matter how old. Heck RS classic pvp, lets go. I just want to see SOMETHING.

[wicked bone]

The only one ik thats actually good is hyyez, the rest of them are just keyboard warrior pvers

[drifting herald]

Right , like I said you don’t even play games , you just play discord

[foggy locust]

Otherwise all you guys have is words, and good feels about attacking someone who has actual proof haha.

[flat furnace]

After the otter cartel merger you will have all the friends.

[inner prawn]

Proof from console ESO lmao

[wicked bone]

Can you link some proof good sir

[foggy locust]

Proof is proof mate, more than what you've got atm ahaha

[drifting herald]

Degens of a feather flock together , not surprised one scummy fartface cuts for another shit breath

[inner prawn]

He doesnt know turtle and trout were the top guilds lol

[foggy locust]

Hyyez: I'd stomp you bro.
Also Hyyez: Mr 3rd place.

[calm saddle]

imagine still talking about how others are scumbags when you adamantly defend Thoghli ratting his own guild for the checks notes 3rd time? 4th time? You're so full of it Mara LMFAO

[drifting herald]

Shoosh yiu have bad teeth and live in a medieval shack in gloomy weather! But I guess we will allow you to hang out with all the cool Americans

[void plaza]

mara got a piece of the cake

[inner prawn]

Then fight me in game and stop yapping fool

[foggy locust]

Hyyez: Im so good at pvp
Also Hyyez: Takes screenshots of FB posts from years ago and forgets to crop out the date when trying to get people banned.

[cyan violet]

Hyyez is one of my old AA guildies, I could find him with my clipper everytime he was getting chased because he used to have a certain route from stealing fish.

[calm saddle]

Texas Realest ass tag but posts trash tier AI videos in here multiple times a day, you can't make this up

[inner prawn]

I'm American you brain dead moron.

[drifting herald]

It’s a way of life for me I don’t come fake ever , it’s tattooed on me in old English that those prison tats are older than you !

[viral wagon]

American check: what's the best kind of pop

[calm saddle]

nah I'm going all in

[foggy locust]

Root Beer.

[viral wagon]

wtf kind of diabetic ass shit\

[drifting herald]

lol 😆

[calm saddle]

what kind of root beer, your answer decides if I disrespect you further

[wicked bone]

Still waiting for concept to send a proof of his insane pvp skills

[foggy locust]

Everyones seen it lol, and say the same thing.. Console, dont count.

[viral wagon]

it could have been on pc and it still would've been a dogshit clip

[calm saddle]

He has his Youtube linked, can just check there and watch his incredibly mid tier montage videos from 7 years ago

[wicked bone]

Dont let others bring you down, believe in yourself, send it please

[spiral spindle]

its not hard

[calm saddle]

hey I don't see you doing it, smh

[inner prawn]

Do you even have a pc?

[foggy locust]

So post your clips mate, oh wait.. you can't cause you have none.

[spiral spindle]

i am cultivating the dao of ragebait so i can unleash it in full when 3.5 drops

[viral wagon]

I love console ESO players 🤣

[flat furnace]

It is slightly painful how easy it is to rage bait in here...... Basically like fishing with dynamite

[foggy locust]

Do you even have phones?

[hushed grove]

https://tenor.com/view/lewd-trinity-seven-anime-sign-gif-7407062

[drifting herald]

3 hardcore pvpers sitting in a tree , k i s s i n g ! lol

[calm saddle]

I'll body you Vy, cmere

[inner prawn]

All your gameplay is on a ps4 so....

[foggy locust]

How else did I play bless and body people so much they had to group falsify I even played on their server and then tease me about a rank only gained in instanced matching.

[wicked bone]

Did this all happen 8 years ago?

[foggy locust]

Nah, 26 back in RS classic.

[calm saddle]

didn't Bless only have 1 server, 'cause I don't remember you at all lmaoooo

[foggy locust]

Show me some of your pvp vids mate, would love to see em, if you have any 🙂

[wicked bone]

Im a pver, i just chop trees and play the market

[calm saddle]

Tell me what guild you were in during Bless Online and I'll decide if ur lying or not

[viral wagon]

quick, everyone post mediocre ESO clips to make Concepts feel at home

[drifting herald]

Crazy how pissy people get over video game pvp ! lol but they skinny fat pimply kids who can’t punch a hole in wet toilet paper lol

[calm saddle]

"quick, let me redirect on people not taking me seriously by bringing up irl again" -Mara, probably

[foggy locust]

It's fun getting em riled up. I just wanna see other videos and people go ragey cause they don't have any.

[flat furnace]

Best I can do is 1 shot tick manipulation clips in osrs

[wicked bone]

Just Remember Mara, if you ever feel cyber bullied online, just turn off your pc

[drifting herald]

They don’t have any , it’s all word of mouth

[void plaza]

i still cant do that

[opaque sluice]

If you can’t do pt, why do PvP?

[drifting herald]

Me , na , if you mean the people who have been using my email to sign me up for credit cards and shit , na I have Better solution , but thanks for confirming !

[foggy locust]

Bro, I swear I remembered you from somewhere.. didnt you 1v50 an entire guild back in AA and cause them all to rage quit and then found evidence that they RMTd and you still won?

[flat furnace]

NGL it took me 5 years to figure out. You are better at gaming than me so you will get it quicker but it's harder than it looks

[viral wagon]

I killed cows and goblins in rs like 14 years ago and got bored

[calm saddle]

@foggy locust what guild in Bless, reveal yourself, coward

[foggy locust]

No guild lol, well.. no.. I was a part of Bulwark an unknown, for a bit, then left cause my shenanigans were causing issue for them, then dramas happened and they quit like a week later haha.

[calm saddle]

WHO????

[foggy locust]

My name wasn't Concepts there either, I just ran around joining groups for MT, low balling weapons to upgrade and pvping in the World while collecting turbans.

[calm saddle]

oh wait, are you talking bless unleashed? The one after bless online that they stole money from us to make?

[drifting herald]

Your turn he answered you , what about you ? Name something !

[inner prawn]

Never played Bless but Freelancer won Bless not you

[flat furnace]

Low level RuneScape is absolute dog shit and I'm grateful everyday that I suffered through it to get to the good part because it ended up becoming my favorite game ever.

[calm saddle]

name what, what're you wanting named

[foggy locust]

Freelancer abused the chilli exploit and subsequently quit after it was patched lol

[calm saddle]

Free did not abuse the chili exploit because I was at the chili exploit most days and the only Legacy member I saw there I got kicked from Legacy over it, so no, that's wrong, lol

[drifting herald]

Guild games anything you had him answer ! Salt in good faith Kai !

[calm saddle]

but he hasn't asked me anything and I've played a lot of mmos, that's a lot of history to mention that'd be wall of text, so unless its specifics asked about, no real reason to start listing all of it when no one's gonna read it lol

[foggy locust]

Thats a straight lie lol.. Hermione was there, Free was there on an alt, multiple people were there abusing it haha

[drifting herald]

As I got older I had to learn , how to cut people off let them bitches burn !

[inner prawn]

So 1 exploit allowed him to win?

[calm saddle]

also it sounds like you played Bless Online then 'cause ik Legacy didn't play Unleashed, and I definitely did not know who you were then, nor was the guild you were in relevant, idk man, lol

[wicked bone]

Guys can we keep this chat Ashes related, your pve wars back in 96’ really aren’t important, lets all sit in silence and wait for ptr to drop

[foggy locust]

Guild joins testing for the game, guild then unanimously chooses the side that has the exploit.. Oh but they didnt cheat though.

[drifting herald]

Is legacy summer your friend ?

[calm saddle]

He is not no

[foggy locust]

I did play bless online, I also played unleashed and was one of the first people to figure out the star seed farm by leveling multiple characters on multiple accounts to 25 and not needing to spend a cent to get strong af

[drifting herald]

Hmmm 🤔

[foggy locust]

Chilli exploit was in bless online. Not unleashed.

[calm saddle]

yeh whatever you did on unleashed I can't deny or counter but Online, I can tell you still who the best guilds were on both Union and Hieron, and yours wasn't it. Union was more open to individual player skill because we got dogwalked by Hieron, but I ran with most of the best Union players for the bgs, so iunno

[drifting herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Goz3MmTRIJQ?si=rz8V14pklphvpdZM

[foggy locust]

Never said my guild was known, was only a med sized guild with Dads after work.
We farmed MT mostly. But I roamed the world on my Turban route fighting everyone..

I killed many people from many guilds solo and when people found out it was me I got doxxed so hard in this discord I left for a year, remember that?

[calm saddle]

I remember you left for awhile yeah, but not the reason. Were you Union or Hieron?

[foggy locust]

Remember how Stabby would literally watch for when I came online in this discord and start flooding it with shit about me and screenshots he got from people moonlighting as Ascendum but were just troll spies?

[hushed grove]

[calm saddle]

I don't remember that, but I could see Stabby doing that though

[inner prawn]

Stabby wanted to be MM

[foggy locust]

Think I was Union, Hieron was the side with the chilli exploit, yeah? Whichever side had the chilli exploit I was the opposite.

[calm saddle]

both sides had access to it, it was in the like, new area you could only glitch into or something

[foggy locust]

Think I still have a screenshot of my block rate in Bless Online somewhere to showcase how I was so strong. Lemme find it.

Heavily cropped but yeah

[calm saddle]

probably whatever the tank class was then, I assume

[foggy locust]

Yeah, fully specced into shield bash for the 1 shot crit and the AoE damage/heal wombo combo.

But yeah after I was found out, got doxxed the hell out of and incessant teasing of my low rank due to not joining the instanced ZergvZerg pvp matches to raise it.

I just liked my solo 1vX and turban hunting haha, definitely wouldve sucked in group pvp with my build, Ill own that.

[calm saddle]

That battlefield thingy ur talking about didn't come till way later, before that it was 3v3s and 20v20s/15v15s, I forget which

[foggy locust]

Yeah and if you didnt join them you were a "dodger" and "weak"

[foggy locust]

Also to answer your question before, only tried 2 types of Root Beer.
AW and Mugs.

Only 2 brands we can conveniently get here in Aus and they were both pretty decent.

My Pally from Legion best expansion ever for prot paladins I swear. The self heals with macros were insane.

If anyone was on SWTOR on the Harbinger server you'd know me by Frenzy, part of the guild Vendetta which then turned into DVS Gaming and became a fairly big reporting platform for games for about 12 years, think they've gone kinda silent since 2023 and are more active on FB now.

[drifting herald]

Me

We were on harbinger before the merge

[foggy locust]

That game gave me more trauma than Id like to admit haha..

Still remember the goodbyes the day before it went down to turn f2p

[drifting herald]

Well pot5 > harbinger > satele Shan

https://youtu.be/hrTOOHq_w0s?si=dtch0bOvHtBMuPck

[foggy locust]

I hope a new Star Wars MMO comes out in my lifetime and that it matches how good SWTOR was for the first year.

[drifting herald]

Or even a swg remake

[inner prawn]

I was in Condemned on Port Nowhere

[drifting herald]

When swtor launched and soe shut down swg, the devs at BioWare Austin left and started a mobile game company called space time studios , right when I started my network career , I did thier network infrastructure and got to meet a lot of other dev studios , which led to work at redfly studios , Robert space industries , zenimax, Nintendo , bunch of studios in Austin ! Good times !

[foggy locust]

Oh that's cool! Shoulda dropped hints for Zeni to stop bein money hungry haha

Spacetime studios made that cool mobile MMO, far out what was it called...

Pocket or arcane legends

It was Arcane Legends, oh my gosh that game was so good.

Asobimo was another cool mobile MMO dev, till they went full p2w 🙁

[drifting herald]

Bro I’m shocked you know that

Yea the ceo gave me like $5000 worth of their mobile currency to buy everything they had for every game they had ! lol true story

[foggy locust]

They went all in on that game and it showed. Felt like playing WoW on my phone.

[drifting herald]

the vampire game is dope

[rough silo]

messy chat this is

[foggy locust]

I saw that, dark legends.. right?

[drifting herald]

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dark-legends-mmorpg/id475249795

[foggy locust]

If I was to say Emily Blunt is a 6 at best, what would you say?

[flat furnace]

The person or the guild?

[foggy locust]

The person, never heard of the guild.

[flat furnace]

Well you pinged a member of the guild with that question so I assumed you had

[drifting herald]

I remember BioWare they had this massive poster on the wall of their lobby of Star Wars galaxies ! And on it they had everyone’s signatures that worked on it, they put it up in the new studio !

[foggy locust]

Yeah I was like wtf is EBC (gutter mind) and wasnt expecting that haha

[foggy locust]

Oh thats cool! Every studio should do that then auction it off or sell copies to raise more funds! 😛

[spiral spindle]

kinda based

[foggy locust]

Reckon a few dozen people in here would froth at the mouth for a signed AoC dev poster to hang up in their game cave.

Might download arcane legends with the kids and see if they like it later today

[rough silo]

Am more a Florence Pugh kind of guy.

[drifting herald]

If they ever move out of Commiefornia and come to Austin , I’ll do the network for their studio , some custom shit, artistic network design , and I’ll try and get one !

[drifting herald]

Did you ever meet Pretty pony in ESO ?

[foggy locust]

Madelyn Cline for me my man.

[rough silo]

she aint british, stick to your continent.

[drifting herald]

The chick GM of Kitty Rainbow dash KRD ?

[foggy locust]

Only ESO celeb I met was Sypher PK who was calling people out for duels during an event in ESO where PC/Consoles could freely transfer between one another temporarily.

He got bodied so hard he went back to PC early.
dude even had 2 pocket healers with him.

Then drops a "montage" of his limited wins and says he shat on console players.
Kiefbowls destroyed him
Critpownow destroyed him
Charger61616 destroyed him.. the list goes on

[drifting herald]

Nice , yea pony is cool! She has an epic story ! Very emotional and sad , with a happy end !

[foggy locust]

No. I will branch out from Australia! Unless they have oceanic servers, that juicy 15 ping is hard to pass up.

[rough silo]

Am not australian mate.

[foggy locust]

You charlatan!

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-get-lost-get-outta-here-go-fly-a-kite-skedaddle-gif-27390955

[foggy locust]

Tried lookin them up and no hits sadly 🙁

[foggy locust]

Worked on a farm down near Canberra for a solid year, they had a rehabilitated female kangaroo, and every few Months we would get big boy bucks trying to mate with her, had this one buck come right up to the main house and headlock one of our Mareemas, tried everything to get it off but nope kept getting tighter and tighter.. The lady of the farm comes out with a shotgun, places it to the side of its head and just BOOOM. Wildest shit Ive ever witnessed.

[drifting herald]

Yea those things get very aggressive the older they get

[foggy locust]

Crazy how the national animal of Australia is considered a pest animal in most parts haha.

[drifting herald]

I still want to go snake hunting in Australia !

Browns and taipans ! Yes please 🙏 let’s fucking go !

[foggy locust]

NT the place for you then haha

Around the edges we only get the rare brown, majority are red bellies.

In the middle you got the crazy dangerous ones haha

[drifting herald]

Deadliest snake in the world ! Inland Taipan

[foggy locust]

Golden Death

We had a bloke come out to the kids school to showcase reptiles, and he had one of these.. started out with "she's a bit agressive today so Ill try my best"

Thing lunged at him and bit his protective outer shirt, was scary as fuck.. couple CM more and he woulda been coffined.

Then we see the same bloke at the shopping centre a few Months later and the snake was loving him, so either warmed up or different snake haha.

[drifting herald]

Yea hard to say, I’ve caughten some very aggressive massive diamond backs and copper heads , but some were very docile , https://youtube.com/shorts/lI46xw9VrJk?si=_txFndQHHtpA7N2s

[foggy locust]

Ahahaha

[fresh cliff]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1445491765342765177

[rough silo]

You know you're putting a PTR thread in here right?

[fresh cliff]

I do now XD

[winged kettle]

These old heads don't even play the game

[rough silo]

Do you really?

[void plaza]

ofc i do

[rough silo]

join NA

[void plaza]

i will eventually, will play with some friends until eu dies and then its na time probably

[flat furnace]

[drifting herald]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-pretty-funny-clown-joke-gif-8161218133841297126

[placid tangle]

Wait banned people are still tryna play in the alpha? Wierd

[drowsy abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/1111-gif-27421331

[ocean kraken]

wow that video was insane, chills.

I love how you guys had the names coming out of the polar logo that was sick

[viral wagon]

lol yeah, editing title to put pvp in it is really going to do something to get them views

[cerulean delta]

Who’s running the betting on when Polar gets banned for exploiting ? I wanna put some gold down on a few dates 😂😂😂

[hasty gyro]

Bet I can get banned in 3 days 1000g

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-space-jam-do-we-have-a-deal-gif-4628632

[gleaming blade]

They're in full PR rn anyway. Lol.

[hasty gyro]

@zinc dove

[gleaming blade]

I have about 10 more

[drifting herald]

lol

[hasty gyro]

I just knew who you were talking about lmao. But he is the one who started the convo with me not me with him

[drifting herald]

Did you lie to him tho ? Be honest

[hasty gyro]

Was just a chuckle cause I could zoom into the pfp

[gleaming blade]

I mean I literally have the account actions logged for AoCWallofShame com

[hasty gyro]

Make sure my warning for only turning in a ticket crate is there

[gleaming blade]

Nah its wipe or bans

[drifting herald]

Coot , did you lie to that poor guy ?

[gleaming blade]

And allows for community submissions with evidence

[hasty gyro]

Nah told him the entire timeline (I don’t cover up that shit). People can believe what they want irdc anymore

[gleaming blade]

Nah Coot is legit. He doesn't pull that

[hasty gyro]

Same peeps preaching we made 20k gold same ppl don’t comment on EU guilds turning in crates more than we ever did without actions

[gleaming blade]

I got twitch chat admission screenshots, messages from inside polsr discord, etc

[drifting herald]

I don’t dislike coot, seems way more chill than the others , So the dude is lying no rep said they didn’t ?

[hasty gyro]

Consistency with steam will surely be handled better I look forward to hard stances but more consistent stances regardless of who it effects and not flip flopping due to feelings

[gleaming blade]

Well some people think polar got banned for alot of stuff in the vans last phase. Wasn't it. Yellow just yapped to timolope and Tim sent me the screenshots. Trap set Confirmed. Banned

[drifting herald]

Yea valve isn’t going to fuck around with thier 30% cut , and they won’t allow the crap with the steam player base either , it’s going to be rough for people who cheat exploit or rmt

[gleaming blade]

They're not using valve stuff still eac

[hasty gyro]

The GM summit is coming along everyone’s being civil and I will probe for questions from the community to discuss in the meeting

[drifting herald]

No I mean player reports to steam

[gleaming blade]

Steam launcher just uses ashes launcher bud

[hasty gyro]

Side note if any GMs have not been reached out by me or other members in the discord please reach out I want all the homies in there to hear different povs

[drifting herald]

Yea I know, I’m talking about the report feature in steam

[hasty gyro]

Wait. Say sike right now bro. Please say sike

[gleaming blade]

😭

I am loving the darkwynn glaze though we're laughing about it in aura

Anywho back to it. Gunna be the best phase yet. 😇

[zinc dove]

no Coot was the least delusional one from Polar, I've had some real dummies lol he at least admitted to some of the duping/exploiting happening and said its not gonna happen in P4

[zinc dove]

wasn't about you really, more some of ur other people coming into my discord trying to pick fights like Timolope lmao

also why am I being dragged into ur drama u guys are bums come play some real games so u won't be bored out of ur minds smh

[fair roost]

@hasty gyro can't stop me from turning crates in. P4 is doomed.

[viral wagon]

come play wwm or you're dodging

[drifting herald]

Yea coot is chill

[hasty gyro]

i could say a word in here but i dont want timed out

[viral wagon]

say it in the non-cucked discord then smh

[hasty gyro]

Watching saker play that game looks fun then i think about playing it so i just watch

[viral wagon]

it would've been a solid single player game if they had a publisher besides netease. can definitely feel the netease influence/trying to make it a live service game

[calm saddle]

WWM is a surprisingly good game casually held back by its combat I think

[viral wagon]

no fucking way, they have opera in game

[calm saddle]

And I say casually because some people think the combat is good, some don't, its very Ghost of Tsushima-esque but also not

[viral wagon]

it's very parry-centric combat. my main complaint is that regardless of difficulty, it feels like a quick time event

[inner prawn]

Arent you the guild that fake wins every MMO and claims you were the best TnL guild?

[cerulean delta]

make it 2 days for 5k gold

[hasty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-deal-yeah-right-agreed-i-would-make-that-deal-gif-15679299

$50 for alt account to get banned cause of chat for 5k gold? easiest trade of my life

[cerulean delta]

you can collect it in game. just pm me

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-vara-gif-18734754

[hasty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[fresh cliff]

was fun.. 👋

[lilac harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBxM1QUqD5A

This shit goes hard.

[fresh cliff]

plays 2 weeks total, leaves zero useful feedback might as well be cats with ads . . I guess polar would actually fight in wars if they stayed long enough to see a war/siege.

[lilac harness]

Look, you can have whatever thoughts you want of polar, but you can't say their vids aren't fire.

[fresh cliff]

looks edited with medal auto cuts, we use it for guild stuff also lol.
if mugsy did the edits himself respect, otherwise eh, looks a lot like the AI edits we pull off medal .
also this proves flying mounts need to be removed. the people who paid for skins can just walk around with normal non-flying mounts fckem. only people to have flyers should be castle owner and they should only be able to use in the castle war. period.
flying mount is way to OP. in many ways, not just pvp.

[lilac harness]

I think flying mounts are a reason to build a settlement. If you remove that, the pvp centric guilds wont build anything. They'll just destroy settlements (eventually). Having one mount per settlement is fine power wise. It should be something the people compete for and invest in.

[bitter salmon]

have they unfucked damage to where its viable to build damage in the latest ptr builds or is still an HP meta?

[lilac harness]

Ptr feels pretty good ttk wise.

[fresh cliff]

https://youtu.be/x_QmvZRS85U?si=Um1btNysOFzZd56z

currently what I am dealing with.

[analog flax]

https://tenor.com/view/panic-sponge-bob-patrick-star-alarming-scared-gif-13864861

[calm saddle]

lol never heard of them in bdo and never heard of them in tnl, the next Overlord pog

[lilac harness]

w response

[fresh cliff]

bed time, idk if ill be back tbh. later

[rugged apex]

Zero ai used. Was edited and directed by Mitsumi Kaiser and me took around 16 hrs.

[rugged apex]

This is crazy delusion. We had 50+ wars, 6 node wars, 2 sieges, killed 40+ tumoks and FBs.

[winged kettle]

They also levelled the fastest (no glaze)

[winged kettle]

Do all of Vicce have a crazy ego after winning some sieges vs dad gamers?

[rough silo]

Closer we get to Dec 11th, closer ppl are losing their minds already.

[main spire]

Watch them have even less CS and no matter what you say, it still takes them weeks to get to, like walmart lover did

[cerulean delta]

PURE CHAOS ! LOVE IT !

[polar veldt]

Big big ego. I mean tango is pretty spot on tho.

[inner prawn]

Blows my mind the shit these people put in their recruitment post.

[drifting herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/671NPARZTwk?si=qV7OQTGURHUtiGdl

[rough silo]

https://tenor.com/view/kuman-kcd-gif-12858323154257201195

[fair roost]

<vice>

https://tenor.com/view/kekuwu-kekw-anime-gif-10260786903607553889

now the gold farmers are chirping. holy this game needs pvp systems

if it took ur guild 2 months to get lvl 25. i got bad news for u @fresh cliff gonna be a rough phase for u

anyways see u on the 11th mr chinese farmer

[polar veldt]

Thankfully well miss you guys then. Youll be on your 3rd game by then

[fair roost]

isnt vice like 50 people? wat exactly are we gonna do with u guys? cut trees?

[polar veldt]

bro 50? like 14

[fair roost]

ah so were just chirping with no ability to actually do anything in game. got it

"pls tmugsy play so the game doesn't fully die" PLEASE PLAY

[polar veldt]

I mean u guys did kinda quit very fast in last phase no?

[fair roost]

no reason to play when everyone knew there was a fresh in 60 days. and no real changes to take place before then right...?

[polar veldt]

HEY i agree. Just sayen

Mistakes were made.

[fair roost]

its ok 200k+ people on the 11th. brand new game. 💀

[polar veldt]

Honeslty it wont matter anyway. Maybe we can all scrim cause War Decs are gone now so

Very exciting content!

[fair roost]

wouldnt of mattered anyways. intrepid has put 0 reason to pvp in this game. No reason to own settlements. no reason to siege. no reason to do node wars. no reason to own anything. other than EGO wars

[polar veldt]

Need to cater to all the ANTI PVP CROWD. SO pumped

[fair roost]

we are just expected to craft all this gear to do what with exactly??? RP political fights?>? LOLOL

ill never understand how we dont have a objective but hey i cant say that without being flamed

[polar veldt]

Nah theyll be this little circle on the map we can all flock too.. cause that should keep pvp alive

Ive been fighting the good battle in other channels

[fair roost]

i get @'d by 10 dads if i say that in general with a polar tag

[polar veldt]

Gotten nowhere whatsoever with almost all the convos.

[lilac harness]

I will send over my carrier pigeon in due haste to proclaim war on your tiny guild. Meet at the open field in twice fortnight.

[polar veldt]

Listen im a DAD. Theres another word that comes to mind for these people..

[fair roost]

Be sure to leave ur valuables in storage in a settlement that is in-destructible !

There isnt even a reason to want to do node destruction... other than "f that mayor".. it only hurts ur guild and the server to cut those stations away

[pastel tusk]

Every single Ashes Veteran Right now

[polar veldt]

real real soft in the gaming world today.

[fair roost]

So node destruction is completely pointless. node wars are to move boundaries on pois? pointless???? castles? havent been talked about in ages. i generally dont know the endgame loop for ashes

[polar veldt]

Like Political PVP should be a thing but.. i duno. They are goingin the opposite direction. Makes very little sense

[rotund pendant]

implying the endgame loop isn't just spanking butts because they need to be spanked.

[fair roost]

political pvp only works if we are fighting over territory or something?? idk political pvp doesnt work on wow that guy was mean to my guild! a guild has to have an advantage somewhere to create drama worth fighting over?

[polar veldt]

they are slowly eliminating all the RISK out of Risk/Reward..

There was not a huge amount of it anyway..

[pastel tusk]

Not slowly, it was a drastic change, CC on non combatants, then a rework to static spawns. Neither exist so there is no reason for micro contesting

[fair roost]

like ok we have fishing now for gold for guilds to fight over control but that still doesn't change the fact u are farming all this gold for wat reason? THERE IS LITERALLY NO REASON

[polar veldt]

PVX has turned into PVE..EEEEEEE/ Some P V p?

[fair roost]

spent 4 months farming all my lego gear and enchanting it! ready to go do ......? fill in the blank.

[winged kettle]

do it again*

[polar veldt]

Well yeah so you can WAR DEC a guild and have a giant countdown

[fair roost]

intrepid is lucky i heckin love fresh mmo launches

[pastel tusk]

They made the early game casual friendly to entice a larger population pool. Its a strategy, does it work? Sometimes? Will it work for a Niche PvX MMO where all the Contesting is being taken out leaving us with a hollow shell of a generic pve experience. Yes.

[pseudo echo]

Steven, referring to the 1 hour timer on Guild Wars, last night....

[inland crater]

to destroy the settlements of your enemies!

[fair roost]

if i could add the polar flag to winstead... game instantly changed. 10/10

[polar veldt]

LIES

[winged kettle]

If node death makes it to live Steven is awesome !

[fair roost]

like we need guild identity on the server.... no one even knows who owns wat settlement

[keen zenith]

I will be sated if they go to 5m. Anything more than that feels really bad I think.

[pastel tusk]

Its been a year of "If's" "when'" and "once its implemented"

[polar veldt]

This is still too loing. War Decs need to be instant or we get dodge fests

[inland crater]

welcome to open alpha development

[winged kettle]

"intended design"

[pseudo echo]

Instant is too easy to troll and abuse. I Agree, dodging will happen, but then they are cowards. 10 min even, gives peeps time to get others to log in (The opposite of dodging).

[lilac harness]

Five minutes for people to do what? Kill the world boss? Bank their mats? Log out? What's the purpose of a war dec if it yields no rewards? It costs a good bit of money to...pvp in the game without losing months of work in items? That's the benefit? That's it?

[polar veldt]

Those are called Scrims.

[winged kettle]

tbh 5minutes is not ridiculous

[pseudo echo]

YO! dont kill the messenger lol Just sayin, they aware, it will not be 1 hour, its a movement in the right direction.

[polar veldt]

When you decide if you wanna pvp or not.. thats called lets have some scrims with a countdown

[winged kettle]

instant pop was kinda lame (made cool clips tho).

i hate consenual pvp more than u my opnion is valid !!!

[lilac harness]

They already shot the dog. You can't revive it.

[keen zenith]

I mean, I think a 5m timer accomplishes both things here + is a ecent compromise. tbh.

[winged kettle]

30seconds, thoughts?

[polar veldt]

Yeah it should be en exicting Month or nothing.

[pastel tusk]

It will surely be a month of Ashes

[keen zenith]

5m doesn't give you enough time to run from a dungeon to a town to bank. 5m shouldn't give you enough time to completely down a world boss while people are fucking with you.

[lilac harness]

At least discussion is happening here. I could not read ptr anymore. I'm going insane.

[polar veldt]

I dont wanna chase people unable to attack them

[pseudo echo]

I think some time to call others, give people time to get there, ect. isnt a bad thing.

I think 5 min, sitting on a WB, knowing its coming? Kinda spicy fun maybe : )

[pastel tusk]

This isnt a discussion, its a circle jerk of info weve been restating for 6 months, im just fanning the ashes

[keen zenith]

Yeah, guild war pops, I ping in my discord and we try to prep accordingly to engage over whatever we're fighting for. There are a bunch of delay tactics for world bosses and other things that can be used in those 5 minutes imo.

[polar veldt]

If a guild is spending 25g to War Dec.. let it happen. Stop with the OK GUYS GET YOUR GROUP/PEE BREAK IN.

[keen zenith]

25g ain't shit and you know that. lol.

[polar veldt]

Not at endgame it aint. But early on... its alot

[keen zenith]

and 5m isn't an insane ask imo. I know compromise is a dirty word but this feels like a smart one tbh

[pastel tusk]

The ideology that Verra is a dangerous world filled with PvX and you can be attacked at anytime, anywhere is gone. Accept the end game gathering simulator with a sprinkle of pvp now

[fair roost]

pls add rival guilds too. perma war vs 1 guild needs to be added if were just gonna rely on "political content"

[polar veldt]

yep

[winged kettle]

"OKAY GUYS im going to pop the scroll everyone ready?!? 3 2 1 go go go" -Father greg but queer voice

[fair roost]

im not a fan of the guard change as well. everyone just pops a war and regroups in towns now

[pastel tusk]

Verra is now a safe haven for PvE animal crossing gatherers ( as long as they avoid the open seas)

[keen zenith]

Dude I miss fighting in towns. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. At least now we can kill them iirc. Last time we tried they just took a little bit of effort to clear (just stay away from the emberspring )

[fair roost]

Before it was major strategy to keep a major raid broken up (ie u hit nova ordem with 5 raids kill 2 of them then try to stop them from getting back to the main raid group)

[polar veldt]

Im sure theyll make the open seas non pvp at some point.

[winged kettle]

1hr ramp up is criminal agreed

[pastel tusk]

THe only option for PvP'ers NOW is to go become PIRATES. Call the game Pirates of Creation now...idk

[fair roost]

now.... they just run into town and there is nothing u can do to stop them from regrouping 200 people instantly. which has its benefits too but kinda lame for natural large scale pvp

[lilac harness]

The pirates are going to dodge to whatever dead realm is available.

[keen zenith]

GTFO. This is my monopoly. Yarr. Get away from Brinebarrel / Tortuga.

[polar veldt]

if your in a guild war.. gaurds should not have anything to do with it

[winged kettle]

Intrepid have done almost everything they can to get rid of natural pvp

[fair roost]

before we had flying mounts EVERYWHERE looking for raid groups... trying to find where everyone is stacking now its always towns

[pastel tusk]

Safe spotting towns is not cool for the Roleplaying Assassins Creed MMO players either

[keen zenith]

yeah but this becomes complex to code and I don't necessarily trust them to implement it correctly. Gotta find a better, easier solution lol

[fair roost]

YEP THIS ALSO STARTED CAUSING THIS!!!

[polar veldt]

sounds like a pretty easy thing to fix.