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server seems to still exist
Then he somehow figured out how to kick everybody at the exact same time
Dorfs are nothing if not efficient.
Yea still there
as far as I am aware there is no way to mass kick everybody from a discord
Maybe he waves his magic thane fingers and poof everyone gone !
does it take more than 10 mins to kick everyone
I can kick the shit out a fuck ton of people in 10 mins if they all line up and and lift up those fupas
Obviously, you’re not a dorf.
Clearly
So the elves win
Orcs win
not with those tiny tusks
Damn.......throwing tusk shade out here 
I’ve seen the best the elves can throw. They’re worse than otters, Orks, or the non existent Tulnar.
Kaelar won. Look at the towns and villages.
Oh ya we were supposed to have different building skins by now.......now I'm sad about tusks and buildings 
It's because they are working on otter race finally
Pushing development towards real issues
You’re not even an otter.

You can with the right bots
Another one bytes the dust, what juicy drama we got from this latest guild purge?
Dunhold rip? The Elves have won
Only gets done when there's incriminating shit you don't want people seeing.
They'll probably rebrand as a miqote guild in FFXIV.
only acceptable races in ff14 are the humans and male roegadyn
Excuse you, what about male viera?
Bunny Boy harem in Ashes when? 

Argem I’m sorry to hear of the loss. My thoughts are with you and our old memories brother
Tulnar #1
oh great internal fight on RP land 🙄
Whats funny is folks are jumping to conclusions instead of asking whats going on
if anyone knew better they would see that I had to recreate my account and the old one was borked. Its why I had to recreate the discord and the in game guild is still around.
Oh I gotta apologize to bam
His old messages about me got nuked when the new server chat was made lel, I couldn’t find my fly high dunhold meme
I ran out of popcorn, are the “stunties” still fighting?
Prayers up for my Dwarven kin in turmoil today.
Stay strong, and may the light reveal all the darkness
I knew something funny was in your drinks, an elf witch did it.

sir, anything new on this story?
Sorry to hear of your troubles @void scarab
The Elves won
No worries, I am still here
Can you imagine getting bopped by that big ass hammer
I’m rooting for you
And why exactly did you have to recreate your Discord account, account recovery exists
Ge nuked his discord to remove the evidence!
Who is power Rangers
axiom leftovers
I see red around everywhere all the time but I've never seen another member once 
Why not turn the old dwarf discord into a table top gaming discord
What’s going on
checks out
smdh
Feelin for my Dwarven kin. Those who were there from the beginning know I’ve been there, and I understand the frustrations.
My thoughts are with all of ya… yes even you
thanks brother bergy, I'll think of you when I regret not having more fiber this week
What goes on your colon is your own biz, gaebae ❤️
I like that we think of each other when we poop though. 
anyone have more on what happened to Dunhold guild?
@violet holly sir, anyone have more on what happened to Dunhold guild?
He has the ring on!! Take it off!!
It’s funny that some are asking the wrong folks what happened to the discord hehe
Not much, what’s going on with you
I don't think anyone cares what happened to the actual discord so much as they are asking about what happened to the guild
what happened , I only saw what glitter said in this discord
You don’t gotta tell em shit thoghli! Keep on keepin on!
You say people aren’t asking what’s going on, then you don’t answer
You say we are asking the wrong people. But I ask you and you say that
If you don’t wana say anything that’s fine, but ?
Yall drama thirsty weirdos smh
I know my friend
Ask the elves. they know things
The guild is still in ashes, not one was kicked but folks left of their own accord
lmao
Fair enough 
are the ashes referencing all the guilds this ALPHA is killing
AoC the only real PvPer honestly
Sometimes you gotta embrace being grumpy, tell the Ash man to eat shit. Die when you’re damn good and ready.
In the end, you only brought this upon yourself. 4 and a half years I’ve been there in Dunhold, made good friends, watch the guild grow, and had high hopes.
I always wanted the best for the guild when I could.
Then you changed, the moment this god damn “game” came out and thing weren’t the same. Good friends started leaving, the guild stagnant, and the hopes low.
And now you try and play it off as nothing happened? I am torn, torn by a friend I always thought I had and the Thane that once was.
It was you that started Dunhold, and you that brought it to the end.
I love ya and I hope you find people that can understand you better than I could.
so why is this popping up if you just deleted the discord cuz "you got locked out of your account"?
Because folks would rather drama farm and act like things are more than what they are.
It’s not like I disbanded the in ashes guild or went on a kicking spree. Just had to recreate the discord and folks are up in their feels about it
sounds like there is plenty of evidence to burn if you nuked your discord and your discord account

cuz account recovery is a thing, we arent 90 we know better lmao
Def is but when you don’t have access to your email anymore bc it got deleted from gmail when I switched from google to Microsoft email use the old account would not let me do any admin things but I would not expect you to understand that
pats
your email got deleted from gmail? are you 90 trying to explain that you forgot your password?
Like I said, I would not expect you to understand something like having your own email hosting and what happens when you switch it over to another platform and update the puny code to dunhold.com instead
never thought id see the day when thogli turned into thomugsy
Why is Thorbis’ and Glitterbeard’s comments ignored?
he was busy applying to polar and enveus
Your hate boner is showing, let's stay on topic. I wanna know the juice.
Because I take things dms instead of drama farming friends
Something that folks forget to do
but without drama there is nothing to do. entertain us
i think the juice is the other dun people saying the truth and hes lying about a mixed up MX record
If I was lying why is the Dünhold discord back up and being rebuilt?
this probably
I admitted that I had to create a new account and that things go borked up
I have no horse in this race but the original allegations were around stealing guild property and now we are talking about account security 
the account security is just the lie
How can I steal guild property when I am the guild lead and owner of the assets?
SNN, Thorbis, Argem (Glitterbeard) have said nothing regarding email lockouts from discord leadership / communication
I just want my fellow kin to have a home that’s not a gymnastics gym…
have you been in the mountain? it IS a gymnastics gym
"i own the assets cuz i own the guild" get rekt lmao
What you don’t know is I own an LLC and copywriting of my logo haha
what does that have to do with a bow?
My exact face and words reading that response 
Oh you mean the bow that I never had because all transactions made were documented with screenshot and my name was not the one receiving it
Yes believe the person who wants to redact their name haha 🤣
Hehehe, you totally know the truth and got me darn it 🤣
I love the idea that I have an evil arc though is beautiful for my rp
Would love for you to show me in any of my streams btw when I had that bow… I will be waiting
and support the grift? noty. keep telling people in 2025 that you lost an entire discord and account cuz you "forgot your password" when this server is filled with people who not only work in the field but also know that is complete bullshit
I never once said that, thank you for being dense
Maybe now I'll stop receiving schizo DMs from Dun leadership shit talking other leaders on burner accs, other people DMing thinking everyone cares about RP shit and trying to honeypot 'spais',and other guilds trying to proxy drama via my DMs KEKW. Btw, guess which person got on an alt to send this. It was shit talking mostly leaders and only a wife/husband combo weren't shit talked 😉
Ive been gone 4 days what is this gay shit breh. Yall mfers are weird
omg. not the bats

How’s the ban Timolope
That is some good fictional reading
fucking lol @ people finding a way to make dunhold's break-up about polar, y'all wild af 
it must be polars fault they have planted the spies
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Soooo arc raiders am I right?!
Still dont get why people enjoy extraction shooters. Gameplay is so dull. literally just a 2 step loop.
- Launch into game and loot as much as possible in the time limit.
- Get to extraction point before you die.
I know why AR is popular, it's only due to its price. Extremely cheap.
To me it’s a way to be able to re-use vertical progression without nullifying the starter portion of the game after a short time. Also less need to balance
name another genre and i can give similar issues with it 🤷♂️
I know each genre has their issues, but extractions shooters are the only genre that has claustrophobic progression
You're literally only following a 2 step plan, whereas in other games you have much more freedom and 10+ step plans
BRs have a 1 step progression that is overall just RNG and youre trying to get into a style that favors your RNG over others
I was tempted to get arc raiders, then I watched theRadBrad do a playthrough and oh my gosh, that game is for people who want to feel smothered and simultaneously stressed by time limits haha
BRs are functionally the same as extraction shooters..
They have a 1 step plan but its less claustrophobic than extraction shooters.
- Dive in, loot as much as possible and survive until the end.. inside that you have a superb amount of freedom.
BRs are more claustrophobic with a smaller time limit than extraction shooters. They both have the same style in the match but one is pushed by a burning circle closing in on you.
In the end our guild leader ran things based on emotions and continually ignored facts. sad to see such an amazing guild fall because of one person.
Whereas extraction shooters with time limits are just do this asap, while voiding players, npcs, following this linear path of progression from A to B as the only good loot is in these points oh and also time limit that if yu fail to extract before, you die and all your time is wasted.
Extremely smothering, stressful gameplay with next to no freedom outside of rushing to points.. It's basically Counter Strike but with loot drops.
But I can see the draw, its super cheap
Seeing Thoghli get lit up was an entertaining read, thanks chat
Wish you the best of luck Drof and ty for all the help you provided to me when I was in Dun o7
mind you i dont like either genre those are just the most popular genres that came to mind
always just wish this all didnt happen while I was on vacation
We totally didnt see that coming when Thogli said he had formed an LLC a while ago 😛
We also totally didn't see that coming when it was revealed that Thoghli had practical chat quotas for his members
welp enjoy the vacation and dont lets this sour your mood
that is news to me lol
Elaborate pls
So now we need another all dwarf rp guild?
Gaettusk got booted because he wasn't "interacting with the guild enough" when there wasn't much going on lol
Thogli right now
Look Dunhold just left Dunhold. all the members are sticking together, we will just likely rebrand as some other name
Become Dunnhold
Basically Thoghli's thing is that, if ur a Dun member and not partaking in chat due to what he decides constitutes an "active member" then you're booted for not partaking
Diggy dig rock lovers is my vote for a new name
We are still the same community we were before. Just with a different name. We will be around.
it was an inactivity purge thing.
Will Thogli be included?
He will still be a part of Dunhold.
Hmmmmm I could see an inactivity purge also being targeted too
but i see your point
I see that, but the way it was framed by Gaettusk(who had receipts), and defended by Thoghli just painted a pretty bad picture
understandable
don't forget I was a higher level than all but 5 members on Vyra at the time, while playing on Resna 😂
Discord had 200 members yeah?
You dont need to nuke a discord for an inactivity purge.. I could purge inactives from this discord in like 10 minutes.
Nah my guy, somethin deeper was happenin and receipts needed to be incinerated.
different time periods Concepts, Gae's kick was like a year ish ago
10 minutes for this discord? That is a lot of clicking.
Oh we are talking about two different things righ tnow
Still even with 1000 members it wouldnt take long with a bot to purge inactives.
Also not necessarily the point of what I brought up, just how it was done and the metrics by who was chosen
I see I see.
Yeah the previous purges were just to remove people who had been very inactive and werent responsive when we messaged them. but I wasnt apart of that stuff.
Mistakes are inevitable, but it tells a lot about a person on how they respond to controversy and criticism surrounding it. Just pointing out that Thoghli's been a suspect individual for quite awhile
Overall, what just happened to the Dunhold discord community is not okay. We care deeply for that community and love everyone who is apart of it. We are Dunhold. Thoghli may have just killed his dream but the community will keep going. and the Church of Dunir will have more sermons in the future. 😛
will be interesting to see the offshoot have similar drama since from my experience it's just a bunch of people starting drama with each other—thinking they're in Game of Thrones—just for the status of being a leader in a guild in an Alpha test lol
Dwarves having a church feels weird, shouldn't you guys like, worship rocks, or put your worship in form, or idk, runes and shit
That is your opinion. We here in the church of the Dunir, heavily disagree. The Goddess Vyra, cares for her creations deeply and we will worship her and the seven! we just do it mining in the mountain or purging evil from a dungeon hahaha.
I can't think of any lore where dwarves are truly religious, but hey power to you. Its been fun chat, but its back to DNA grinding
i mean warcraft dwarven lore and LOTR dwarven lore both have religious dwarves so idk what you talkign about
oh boy proof is comin lol
Isn't WC dwarven lore ancestor worship? And LOTR religion is worship of Aule, which, iirc, manifests itself in the form of architecture and creation rather then a true religion
LOTR Dwarves being the inspiration for all and with Tolkien saying he sees Dwarves as Jewish, not even joking
Some of Tolkien's beliefs were just circumstances of the time, is what it is
not even a negative thing; it was more a weird positive stereotype attempt
Even considering that part of the dwarves thing in LOTR was that they were too greedy? 🤔
their language was constructed in a very specific manner on top of that. Lots of things. He's said as such in an interview before his death and in one of his many letters explaining his work
Touche
just funny that modern fantasy has just sort of aped Tolkien's work without truly understanding why he was doing what he did
We so ready
Contemplating deeper nuance is a pretty lost art
cause he likes to write languages?
If we are gonna talk about LOTR dwarves and what inspiration tolkien had when creating all the races, one kept getting mentioned in his life story and that is Norse mythology, most of the text and the movie that came out talked about him loving mythology and read a lot of norse text
cause he himself explicitly stated that he intended to do so?
lotr was just an excuse for him to write languages and expand on it cause that was his passion no?
Duh, that's why everyone gets offended instead of contemplating what was said to them.
My dream is still live and well. Thank you for the concern though!
talking shit to me again huh Concepts? Typical . . .
Always ❤️
Your dream is done. no one is going to follow a leader like you anymore. you killed it with your own hands.
no, much more than just inventing languages. If it were just inventing languages, he would have done that by itself. His life was dedicated to fleshing out a world. It's just surprising that people who consume modern fantasy know so little about the source of it all, from his sassy letters to Germany in the late 30s to his letters explaining his intentions and motivations. Without Tolkien, we'd have some really shitty fantasy because the fantasy races as we know them had kinda shit versions in mythology.
My favorite part about the Thoghli lore is, to have deleted the discord, he either was able to access his old account, deleted it, and then deleted his old account. Or, he got his old account he lost/got stolen? He got it to delete the discord, or give another account of his ownership to delete it, lol, like... 
RIGHT!!!
greed of a dwarf never seem to amaze me
I just wonder what kind of shady shit he got caught doing or was doing to have to go to such extremes tbh
Bro hit up the hacker that took his account and was like "hey man I'll toss you $100 to delete that discord you own now rq..."
Im of this mindset too haha
The Church of Dünir eh?

Yeah in 2.5 I was very vocal about it and now in 3.0 I had 1 RP event but I havent been huge in global chat with it like in 2.5
lol Dünkirk
It’s funny someone telling someone else that their dream is done.
Chat lets take votes to see how long it takes until it comes out that Thoghli was stealing money from Dunhold the DA way, any bets
I tried to tell yall. I’m sure it was covered up quickly though.
Again, I’m so sorry yall are experiencing what I feared when I left.
Brother Bergy getting drama for being 'inactive' Prayge
LLC says it all imho
TRUE AND REAL
We were told proof is comin. We're ready.
I sure hope and pray someone enjoyed / is enjoying those winnings from the ExtraLife event for Dunhold I inspired and led, before my departure
Bergund, the entire leadership at the time had issue with you, although what thoghli did was wrong when it came to you, you were also in the wrong and behaved much like Thoghli is behaving currently. And at the time I was in your corner until the immaturity occurred. so pleased do not come in here with "I told you so" when you behaved so terribly on your way out
My favorite part of this is that Bergy is actually the best of the 3 groups lol
Don't use us as a reputable source btw
too late ur already the new truth once again
Pretty sure if you can prove this, extralife will ask for proof and if the funds were misappropriated then Thogli could be in some deep doodoo.
I thought I was propaganda
Nice try but all funds were sent directly to the link provided by extralife
Hence why I said if it can be proved.
Ah, Brother Drof, allow me to clarify.
My comment you just responded to was not for the decision. It was for how the decision was handled.
Apologies if there was ever a misunderstanding there. Again, I’m sure it was covered up quickly to seem as though it were the case you’re bringing forward.
Much love and respect.
I had no handling of money what so ever on that front
But you know the funds were sent to the link extralife provided?
yes what happened to you was a precursor to everything after.
And that’s what “I told you so” about. That is all.
I wouldn’t use that language though, because I’m not asking for anything or fishing for new members due to the events of the last 24hrs. Deeply saddened, and hoping the best for my Dwarven kin.
all of us are sticking together. creating a new dwarven community without thoghli. So all that happened was Dunhold left Dunhold. all that is left is Thoghli pretty much. The members that made dunhold great are sticking together
Ok I actually did get real news standby
Every dog has its day
Listen I can stay on the edge of seat only for so long.
Technically they’d have Great Halls.
Let me know how I may be of service, even just as a friend.
Putting everything on one picture
ESPECIALLY if it’s a church @feral spear
ITS A FUCKING GREAT HALL
I’m gonna slap you, turd!
@void scarab you're a demon bro 💀
hes a liar.
all just a conspiracy, trust
he does he nuked the server to get rid of leadership AGAIN for the 4th time.
LMAOOOO @void scarab you're such GARBAGE BAHAHHAHA
I told you I had some shit bro
damn, what a grift
Ahahahahahaha
I made a new guild Dunhold i have the IP, if any dwarven refugees would like to join lmk, will pass leadership too
My phone was going nuts during a meeting lol
MVP
Aged like milk
"i switched to a microsoft account and lost everything 😭 "
I wasd about to tag him and say this ahahah you beat me
what's funny is that he legally has no rights to the name Dünhold
It came from the data mine of the node names from the get go. Way back when.
Whats with all these dagnabbit guilds being used to fund one persons bank account and ego/godcomplex?
Joined a guild in ESO run by a Grandma and she was the sweetest person ever, need more grandma ran guilds!
This was disappointing tea
British people, you're out.. you become grand parents by 30.
only the chavs
was it a guild called Salacious
That rings a bell, was about 5+ years ago
All I remember is the guild lead was a grandma and she was incredibly selfless and sweet and always up for a chat if you felt down, always remembered everyones Birthdays and dates that they joined the guild
Although could have just been a guild vendor I frequented
Fuck, now I wanna play some ESO, but I don't wanna buy in to Zenimaxs bi-monthly content schemes.
do yourself a favor and don't, ESO has been extra shit for a long time now
i have been subbed for 3 years, i have not been on in 3 years
Damn youd have a lockbox of ESO coins then
just keep rackin up them eso bucks to buy better houses
ESO wrecked PvP games lost.
GUYS LEAVE THE DWARVES ALONE THE DWARVES ARE RYVE'S FRIENDS
What you do when Dwarves don't leave other Dwarves alone?
Take bets
To which dwarves do you refer. The only one left in Dunhold is Thoghli.
Honestly though it sucks for the decent people of Dun, they were always fairly mature and nice/fun to chat to.
Hope they create a better space for them to prosper.
stop giving a stage to these rpers man holy shit
Let me guess. Someone thought it was a “gift to the dwarves from the devs”
why, its funny, we give a stage to OCE people and for the same reason
Nah bro, guy that wants everyone to follow dwarf RP and everyone around him has to "submit" to his rp
Exactly and seeing most of Dunhold finally see what we've seen for years is top tier

Now that all my friends have left that guild, my gloves can slip off more easily. Apologies gang.
where will he rebrand? chrono? blue protocol?
Honestly, any rper that thinks that people around him have to accept his weirdness is a gtfo in my book. FF and WoW have specific buildings and servers for that.
Pretty sure they just used RP to mask their true intentions of forming a passive income pyramid around the LLC of their guild
Not Dun as a whole, just Thogli and any co-conspirators he may have had.
Warhammer online private server. 😛
Here's an income idea.
Write a book detailing all the drama that has happened in this discord since early 2017.
"Discord" - an Ashes of Creation journey.
Whac-a-dwarf the Dunhole edition
It is called that for a reason
Another phase and guild bites the dust but in the case of dun is mostly ankles.
and. . . this is what ya get when you follow someone trying to make gaming their career
That is fine, just dont make a guild around it and specially dont add weird rper to it.
🤣
Let me guess, “any publicity…”
Wait the dwarf guild collapsed? Roflmao
No,, we are still here, and will be
Ahh ok hell yeah
we are still here as well
One Dwarf guild, Dunhold, took a nose dive because Thoghli's a rat yeah
You are there... Just not the rest of the guild who made it great. The community is gone.
Only the loyal dwarfs
Sure thing, whatever ya say 🙃
Surrounding yourself with “Yes Men”, is a surefire way to success
Hes more concerned on what is being said here than to try to manage whatever is happening there.
one person is alot more trustworthy at this point than another so 🤷♂️
real
Nvm
I am still waiting for a reply... I have only heard the Dunhold community side so far and none of them are happy about it..
I was away few hours. Someone fill me in ty.
Totally guilty and I am a bad bad dwarf
just didn't seem like something you would have done? idk
Because you all don't get to see the real him
The Elves won
wrong... we are still a community of dwarves.
This is my first phase. I don't know people. I don't know the history. I can only read what is present and gather context clues.
If he was on his third leadership team, then it seems easily plausible for something he would do. He just cares about his brand. He doesn't care about the people. That is obvious from this conversation.
His first line of defense was along the lines of I am the leader I will do what I want with my assets. >.> Sure seems like someone who would sink their own boat so others can't have or enjoy it.
I miss Walmartlover
I still think tmugsy is Walmartlover’s alt
Who knows, if DA is around Walmart might be also around, Mount Rushmore of Characters that came from Ashes of Creation.
Nah i watched walmart try to grief TMX in carph in phase 2 and he got ran down.
I understand that’s your perspective, but it seems like it’s based on limited context and a lot of assumptions. From the outside, it’s easy to draw conclusions that fit a certain narrative, especially when things have been one-sided and even fabricated.
I mean he did have 2 rangers in phase 2, because 1 got wiped/banned 🤣
Yes most fabrications have been done by you though. you literally have been caught lieing multiple times at this point. Sad to say but the facts dont care about your feelings thoghli.
Many of his perspectives are correct though. Things have been confirmed from your own former leadership, including myself.
Can yall make a YouTube video of this argument with dorf cosplay and dorf voices
Im down
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all I see are scorned ex guild mates thinking its one thing when its another. Hey, I am here for the fun and love the attention yall are giving me 🤣
Do we even know that this is Thoghli? Seems odd to be on the new account even though he has access to the old one. If it is when is alt #3 being made so that he has another person agreeing with him?
pathetic response. You ruined your reputation and for what? enjoy the grave you dug for yourself Thoghli.
What reputation, and what grave?! Oh nooooo, I get ppl who do not like me and want to pvp me.... win win for me
Hes right, what reputation?
Yepp!!
whatever good reputation he had with people is gone after this. pvp? nah we arent gonna go out of our way to pvp you. Just sad to see everything that got built, crumble how it did.
could you buy some merch on the way out? thanks
To be honest, never seen him in-game after phase 2.
Maybe if you logged in you would
inb4 it's all just a shitty rp wrestling-esque storyline
in the end, none of us our mad at you @void scarab we are just dissapointed in you.
Are you roleplaying in the forge? Hidden in the depths of lava?
Who is mad, I am nowhere near mad I just recreated shit and those that want to drop in can. Not like the invite changed
Wut
that would be a cool story
Yea I know craaazzzzyyyy.... the invite to the guild is the same as it has always been....
You’ve missed the message. Not gonna hold yer hand through this one bud.
Surprised you even know how to hold hands

My prayers are with ya. As Thorbis said, I too hope you find the folks that understand.
So whats the next big dwarven guild, whats their name
your mom
I saw Church of Dünir?
But maybe that was a more colloquial way of referring to the retired dwarf guild’s devout Dwarven membership
Wow Thogli, not very nice
Just trying to embrace the suck and be the guy folks are painting me as
Is it considered painting if the proof is already pointing to that?
Just leaning into it
I think the correct word is accountability, its okay though i have trouble Rping that too irl
grifters gonna grift
i enjoy it, not very far yet tho in the rankings. probably gonna wait to push more until after they do their december wipe
no idea why they are doing it, but they referenced a new healer and a new tank the other day, so i assume thats part of it
You’re a liar Thoghli and you’re selfish. You use others to run your community, you convince them to put in lots of work for you, and then you betray them. The long list of officers you have lost over the years only proves that. This last community nuke was nothing more than a tantrum gone too far and now you’re trying to restore your image. Your words are wasted, as your kin finally have had enough of the drama. I feel bad for the next round of people whom you betray, but they will see the same thing we all have seen in time.
Even when they argue, they rp
nah the Church of Dunir was just an RP element within Dunhold that I had control over. The church of Dunhold has just changed to the Church of Dunir and will be a separate entity going forward.
I haven't been in here in a long ass time. I came back to see dwarf fight
What’s up stranger
War of Three Hammers in real time.
How dare you ditch us
holy fuck 30 sec slow mode? I don't have that kind of attention span. Also, Thog you look lame af. I have an LLC. lol. cmon dude.
LF Kaelar RP guild! Imperial preferred!
I hold no weight to someone who can not even lead his own guild or make up their own mind to if they want to lead a guild but nice try. Call me a liar I dont give 2 shitz.
I am cool with being the baddie and someone that ppl hate.
read The Dwarves for some good dwarf on dwarf action.
thomugsy is durin in this case right
We haven’t even hit beta and the elfs are just laughing at the stunties. Straight howling in glee.
@acoustic copper my Dwarven brother, don’t bite this bait.
Your words are meaningless, I have a successful community. Like many, they don't want to play an alpha game. I don't blame them, our community has been around longer than your guild.
Sure pal
wow. sad reponse from a weak dwarf. can we even call you a dwarf? After how you betrayed us? you dont have to pretend to be a "bad guy". You are one.
Tell him another ankle biter!
Grab him by the knee caps!
I think the dwarves are sober
valid
Perhaps we could revisit your drunk foolery. As from what I hear from your own kin, is you went to bar to drink and nuked a community people put 1000s of hours into.
Uhoh. This would get MESSY if if someone spikes the beer
A dwarf that can't hold their ale? Blasphemous dwarf.
My kin are in my halls, all others are no kin of mine.
War of Three Hammers Confirm
ashes was just their balrog, thats all
Maybe if i spread elven propaganda, the dwarves will band together to defeat me ( a common enemy)
Whoever is still play in the same guild as this ankle biter please step-forward.
The Dunir exploded while the Nikua are chillin
You are no kin of ours. You chose to betray us.
Naw
I tried that for years
The island dorfs are made of better character it seems. The Tulnar are a myth.
so what's the dumbass name of the new dwarf guild
Ankle biters
to be determined
dwarfers
so a name from a random name generator from google, gotcha
🤣 🤡
Or we could go back further, as when you got into a bar fight and got thrown into jail several years back. Ghosted the community for months, which I could understand. But when you returned you didn't thank your kin, instead you were mad they made changes in the community. Instead of thanking them for running your community, due to your reckless choices...
17? Who, step-forward.
Dark Thane vs Bloody Thane
Your tears sweeten the vodka. I’m contractually obligated to Tulnar bash. Ask @dull inlet
Why not both?
Do not get me started on those days Brother Thalrik
16 people that haven't logged in yet? They'll get purged for inactivity.
I hope you step on leggos
What were the previous numbers?
~200
Wow wow wow settle down here. Let's not say things we will regret.
of 'active" members, not even a full raid in-game at peak
I hope you get stuck with vegan food
Well then, I hope you stub your toe.
7 are discord bots for sure
😂
Hold on, need to go get some pearls. I’d buy some from the dorfs, but they’re too busy cutting their beards to spite their face.
Found them.
Naw deff all bots for the elite diamond package you have to sub into
Nikua are the real dwarves to begin with
Döne, I’m weak.
nikkua are water hobbits
somewhere around 50 not including non Dun allied guilds (Dunir nation)
are those different than river hobbits
Anyway sober dwarves are crazy people.
Interesting that some of us who joined back have since been kicked
🎙️
the bathroom cleaner? i think they got into the bleach instead
He had his chance to come clean on what he did with the discord and instead decided to try to spin up some crap about the discord account. He is currently deleting years worth of DMs with multiple people to try to cover up his lies and then spin it all in his favor. I hope none of you fall for his lies and deception otherwise you can consider yourself being gaslit.
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I know it is so pathetic.
so which dwarf clan is going to control the anvils? thomugsy's mayoralship should be easy to win
Sister LexiLu, I left Dunhold in 2023 after creating the Ironguard Clan. I completely understand your frustrations and I have held my tongue, and kept the gloves on because I truly cared and still care for many of your fellow kin.
I hope your new venture shines brightly and again, if there’s anything I can do in support, please reach out.
There was no mayorship
If he were smart, he would just rename himself, the guild and try again lol. But I guess he does not want to put in the effort to update the contract he has people sign to stream under the Dunhold name lol.
I didn't have this in my AoC 2025 Bingo Card.
I appreciate that 🙂
I don't think anyone did but someone fell off the rails.
ty everyone who helped vote thundr
He did not want to put forth the effort to do many things it seems. Most of the guild was ran for him a big majority of the time.
Yup lol
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s awkwardly (because I left) felt like sabotage was the inevitable objective at some point.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all that.
Youre welcome Sir
Now build me Master armor when it gets fixed ❤️
Wait what?
A contract you sign, legal document. Like you sign if you work for someone.
I know what a contract is, the what is for sign to stream under the dunhold name. Yall getting paid?
The Dunhold, LLC 
I thought I was a meme.
I am not on the contract, I am not that silly. But there is one. No pay lol
Just dont de-rail the node like Polar.
Thundr Vercetti
winstead flourished under pve, here comes node wars for crafters
I mean, you are, but I also know what you meant.
Any form of revenue through stream must be donated to Thoghli directly and you must cover the transfer fees.
We are unveiling things today huh....
No idea, you would have to ask an actual Dunhold streamer. But they all quit after the nuke yesterday. So no one is on it now lol.
I think it was just to sell the Dünhold merch, could be wrong though.
people be crazy. signing a contract to use a $45 copyrighted logo to stream to 6 people
making a guild an LLC certainly changes things
How you guys see this and like "oh i wanna join" LOOOOL
I saw it and “oh I gotta go!”
I for real thought the LLC was a joke but damn.
Only "official" streamers had to sign it
i still think thundr is polar LC
I mean there are businesses that will make you an LLC for less than an Ashes key costs. but it's still funny
I mean it doesnt matter? Here to play a game, having to sign LLC shits batcrazy.
It was largely ignored and explained so the guild owned the logo, the lore people generated etc.. was supposed to fund hosting and bots was the explanation.
Bots meaning discord bots
Dun roleplaying made me cringe but this is something else....
just imagine the internal changes between friends/leadership when the LLC hit, with all this having taken place
its a bad day to be a dwarf i see
why
What roleplay? You mean the one 2 hour walk we had in p3?
I saw some screenshot of a dwarf receiving a piece of wood and saying "they will protect it with their life"
Called it. Incinerating Receipts!
I wasnt there for the walk I was too busy grinding/pvping. Mr.Thoghli talks and walks like we all are subjected to his roleplay and must respect it doesn't matter where or the environment. That is peak cringe to me personally.
2025 down bad for streamers
yeah! that one
people who think changing server profile name will prevent people knowing who they are 🤣
Uhoh… pray tell
Ngl that part was just meh, the promotion battles and the guarding the caravan stuff was fun in p2.
i watched the whole 2+hr video .. idk what happened yday with guild 🙁
The p3 RP was just not fun at all. It was a requirement to actually get accepted into the guild.
Anyway, you guys seen the contract and etc and decided to join I guess people see red flags and do ignore huh.
I signed nothing
Lol /follow and afk to make a pizza
Is not the matter of if you signed or not, who the fuck makes a contract for a guild that is in a game in alpha stage?
My thoughts exactly. But I stayed because of the other people who are friends.
ooh ooh ooh I know this answer. . is it : a grifter?
Liniker carry Nova Ordem and made the brand and everything out of it, he's carrying the brand on his back funds from his own pocket and takes with him and does whatever he wants to do with it, if you want to participate the guild just sign up and make an application not sign a goddam contract.
Am going from cringe to dumbfounded.
Hol up, im lost catching up in this lore. There was a contract? 👀
Dare I ask about the forsaken Tapestry…
Someone leak this contract pls 🤣
From now on we incentivize every Guild Leader to write up contracts for their members for whatever reason.
God I hope so
GUYS WHY IS THE DRAMA SHIT TIER NOW. STEP UP YOUR GAME NOOBS
delusional v
We are all playing other games now, enjoying the night lol.
I didn't think he would go this deep into deception. I thought he was better than that.
Denial is a strong emotion.
I mean i'm not gonna knock a two hour walk for RP. Its kinda cool seeing a gathering of people doing their thing from an outside perspective.
But in my opinion why I was getting into RP in MMOs specifically in Ashes is because you can literally just fight people in game and thats your RP. You can take over a settlement and wage a war. That's your RP. You can build a freehold and invite friends over and eat meals and drink ale with your friends type of RP. Run a caravan and escort/defend it or attack someone's caravan type of RP.
Game is not there yet, but it definitely has potential to be that.
Do an event RP after.
He's bashing the fact we were an RP guild and there was hardly any RP events.
I know. I'm just saying holistically. Not necessarily directed at Dunhold
were you not all Rp'ing in most interactions within the guild?
In my experience in several RP guilds, most RP guilds don't hold a lot of actual RP events unless they're hyper casuals tbh
or do you all talk in real life. with "kin and lass and laddie"?
Honestly I was just there for dwarf vibes.
Some fursuit behavior.
A lot of RP guilds also like having their own private RP (not ERP) because player interruption ruins immersion.
Also power levels can be done by dice instead of player skill which i think is kind of lame.
yeah. that's RP isn't it? I don't know I don't really RP. I thought that's what ya all do. like Lloyd said it was fun from an outside perspective when I saw it
I think the craziest thing is the web that is being spun. 0 accountability was taken and the victum card is being played super hard.
did the discord rp channel actually get active after it got restored? No one used that and it got removed then reintroduced
Most RPers aren't good fighters so dice rolling is an excellent solution. I can think of only like 3 actual RPers who did RP consistently on BDO that had hands, and I was one of them, lol
Bro as soon as someone said LLC its a 🟥 doesn't matter if affects you or not LOL.
i rp the best grumpy old man and i can fight all of you irl at the same time for messing up my grass
gtfo my lawn 💦
I RP THAT I HAVE 25 HANDS
I'd put you down by myself old man. Well, probably. I'm a mid tier duelist, but I can handle most players
aint none of you puttin me down irl im yoked and we'd just go get steaks and beer
bet you own a car too huh
a 1972 AMC Gremlin
what kind of demon loves grass and doesnt diesel
tf kind of question is that, o iunno, prolly ones who don't like overpaying on gas? 
enjoy ur 15 mpg lmao nerd!!
you can get 30 you dork
30 ON A TRUCK WOAH CRAZY ILL ADMIRE THAT FROM OVER HERE IN MY 47 MPG SLEEK ASS CAR 😎
ill still be driving my truck at 1 mil + miles
Motorcycle > Truck.
i hope none of you ever get a good lawn
When do you think Ashes gets so good people will start posting guild drama on reddit?
ain't no truck can reach 1 mil miles without changing literally everything on it, that's kap
brah im a diesel mech yes they can.
Sol might have bitch titties and drink his own chew spit, but a diesel can run f.o.r.e.v.e.r.
maybe beta if its good
never if these fuckers keep dedicating all their cognition to alpha
well haven't we already had guild drama on Reddit, Polar this Polar that?
Polar < LARPers
people gonna burn themselves out before we get to beta
LARPers are pretty cool, you right.
Dozen+ guilds that I know of alone that have already done that lmao, people too soft for alpha
Imagine having fun doing what you love. I can only aspire to that.
i do it everyday, thats why everyone catches hell
Cash me next wipe how bout dat
can't wait till I actually play Ashes again Solv, I'mma find you and beat you like a redheaded step child
I’m sayinnnnnn. Launch roleplay is gonna be gold.
im gonna get yo ustill fucker
At this rate, no dorfs are gonna make it. Just a bunch of short somoan river hobbits
ur gonna get dn in ur mouth that's what ur gonna get
GUYS WHY IS NO ONE RPING EXCEPT THE DWARVES AND ELVES
Fellow Mudman sends his regards
I'm RPing as a discord yapper. what ya mean
Get bent afk. I am RPing the Kaelar Supremacy. Kaelar Bestlar
I casually RP wanting to genocide the Tulnar and its only casually because I will indeed be doing this
Tulnar do NOT exist. It is a myth. Like communisim and goth girls.
uh oh spotted a tulnar player, enjoy ur future safe zone camping little quasi furry corrupted thing
I cant wait till Tulnar are so fucking cool you bastards are forced to play one. I am gonna say that "I TOLD YOU SO" with so much spite, more spite then ill give @echo mulch
Why would I EVER play a Tulnar when the superior human races exist, like Kaelar 
someone needs to get your forehead checked
https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-the-witcher-geralt-gif-15850143
Oh hey look. Kaelar over here being PERFECT
bro's one of those "omg ur playing a fantasy game, play other races teehee!" okay future "I identify as a dragonoid" person
you're playing morning glory milking farm?
why would i play a vanilla bean ass lookin human
The guild ceremony was more fun, it's just the walking 2 hours to have a one hour commencement ceremony. It was also the only event during p3. Rp was a back burner thing.
Because preserving humanity from the alien, the mutant, the heretic, is a war at all times, Solv. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded
Henry Cavil and Selma Hayek are anything but vanilla. Also, Vanila is the best bean.
coffee > vanilla rekt nurd
Red Bull > Coffee
No internal rp, we did more RP shouting hail kin to other dwarves.
Bucked Up > Red Bull
fuck Grey Knights but otherwise fr fr
too bad Gman boinked the ELF CHICK
Hold on @cyan violet. Lesser gene seed are talking.
you mean too BASED, humanity conquering the stars, one Eldar at a time 
oh my. . you are playing morning glory milking farm
I will literally summon vysi
@cyan violet THEY FOUND YOUR STASH! You perv
again, gtfo my lawn 💦
the grey knights are literally decreed to not allow the emporer to leave the golden throne, ever. the chaos gods call the emperor "anathema" because he is all that they stand against... if the emperor's body were to die, his soul would be released to the void, where he would destroy the chaos gods... therefore, the grey knights are agents of chaos, ensuring the emperor is never released from his half-death stasis prison
Jokes on you, she and I tend to be kindred spirits, so that'll just turn this into a 2v1
This take is about as bad as the one that the Tyranids are running from something
grrr. and Prom plays a stinky human too
how do you figure? the new lore tell us what the terminus decree is
the old ribbits are coming back
If ur actually asking, as dogshit as the lore of the Terminus Decree is, the Grey Knights were Malcador's creation. Malcador was the only true friend Big E actually had. Its a safeguard, one the GK are either misunderstanding, or, as others have theorized, are ultimately intended as a psychic sacrifice to finally revitalize Emps
anyway when Russ and Corax come back as Tulnar I get the last laugh.
I don't think Russ will, but Corax prolly
The grey knights were more than just Malcador's creation. When they first hit the scene they were like custodes. It was awesome. They win all the books. Just not when the Space Wolves are selling more copies. Womp womp.
#MattWardDidNothingWrong #SamuraiDraigo
Also. Dorfs smell. Elfs suck. Orks look metro. Tulnar do not exist.
Did I leave anyone out?
that doesn't go against anything I said, Kaldor Draigo is a trash character, and Matt Ward is a terrible writer 😤
You take that back. I will bathe in the blood of ten thousand sisters of battle and @ you.
Kaldor is a plot armor character.
Can't talk...too busy Samurai Jacking your entire reality. AFTER! AFTER I reforge Excalibur with my MIND FORGE
Draigo is more mary sue of a character then Calgar is and that's saying something. Only named GK worthy of respect that I can recall off top of my head is my boy Stern
Constantin > Kaldor
it could also be that the terminus decree is a lie, not actually placed by malcador but the gk have been deceived into thinking it's malcador's decree.
i mean ultimately it's probably yet another "look at the imperium being dumb and putting in every safeguard imaginable to ensure their own stagnation" dead end, so it could just be a symbolic McGuffin
how can something so badass like WH sound so weeb? 🤯 NERDS
completely possible gw will inevitably retcon it because its so dumb, but who knows
look at this nerd, misusing "weeb"
@calm saddle Anvil Thawn is pretty cool. He is a perpetual. Also, a grey knight.
You cannot be a mary sue if you are never around. Draigo went out for milk and scratchers.
only mary sue in WH is Lorgar
oh yeh Thawn is also pretty cool. And idk, Draigo's whole schtick is he wakes up for breakfast in Slaanesh's palace and kills 12 keepers of secret, goes to Tzeentch's realm and trashes the whole thing and kills every lord of change, then hits up Khorne's place to tap down every bloodthirster and Skulltaker like its nothing before he ends the night with trashing Nurgle's garden and then taking a nap with Isha as everything he just stomped comes back to life. Oh yeah, did I mention he has a 1% chance of being summoned out of the immaterium to delete an entire Chaos cult/traitor warband and then just gets bopped back in? pree mary sue
I was not joking. Draigo is samurai jack. Go watch the cartoon. He is TOTALLY overpowered. It is awesome. His big problem is he cannot show up when you need him too.*
if the Imperium somehow managed to get him out of the Eye of Terror, he could close the Eye of Terror by himself, bro could stop a Black Crusade by just being there 
If Draigo was not in the Warp. Big E would stay on the throne.
tbh idr samurai jack from when I was a kid and I didn't watch new samurai jack
aka hes plot armor character
wouldn't of guessed that thanks Solv!
You just salty cause I said you had bitch titties.
You sir, are completely fucking boring; which is understandable for a Kaelar.
Can we go back to @void scarab living in denial and trying to convince himself and everybody else that it’s going to be alright and that he’ll still be relevant next week?
Bwahahaha
I'd bully you but apparently, even in the arena of words, you can't bully people, tragic
RPvP gang 4eva ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
I wonder how many folks are now googling Wilford Brimley
pretending there's no erp to hide your erp alt guild. you would!
All the youtz.
not me, I'm fishing in DNA 🎣
the zoomers dont even know the life 
you're just mad your fav is busted cuz of bad writing
@cyan violet If you played Chaos Gate you would know that Draigo is like the best catchall guy. He shows up and dies and leaves and it is awesome. He is like the Saint of the Emp.
Is this an innuendo
nope, anime warframe, game called duet night's abyss
Looks like a theoretical yes but not entirely, Thoghli is gonna cope with his 15 people and recruit new shmucks to fall for him until he inevitably rats his own guild again
wild
EmberBeards clock 21% of the vote in Winstead. Our voting services are available in the upcoming Sunhaven election.
@pliant seal what's with the Thursday 1PM Dec when 80% of us are at work and y'all somehow get farmed
Need to RMT harder
(I am forced to resort to discord pvp as y'all gave up before I could even get home to participate)
dusty living up to his songs right now lol.
https://youtu.be/C2SharmjmrI?t=190
Vanish , Reputation , La dodger .
all explaining what dusty doing right now lol
VICE don't dupe or cheat kid.
get good, cry more about war dec.
"excuses before the war even starts"
https://www.twitch.tv/dustywhy/clip/NiceWiseHerdKAPOW-2rDIoeOuNGBt7MOa
also vice started end of last phase first time guild together this phase... lol keep making shit up dude. nice.
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didn’t you know? if a guild has better gear than you, they obviously duped it or bought the gold or <insert baseless rumor here>
thanks for the copy paste that helps
this statement has gone from meme to reality with the current state of p3
Wipe when
i dont think we need a wipe, just lots of bans and some item removals, even if a few of the individual offenders in random guilds get through the cracks the economy is very recoverable
all the things coming in 18.0 need an established economy to be tested
I mean they could remove all the duped gold but that shit has circulated the economy so many times by now
This is what it takes 😛
That’s not too many people rally the troops
items too
IM TRYING!!!
Sick snip of someone jumping. SpaghettiWestern has hops.
dusty said this... "we got the numbers to etc...."
https://youtu.be/hz2Xu0527ZU?t=14
where the numbers, now he crying saying another thing lol . okkkkkk
music explains it all
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Crybaby Streamer trying to change narrative about wars he lost.
Catch the full video here , just MUTE the stream and watch the facts . Guy contradicts himself so many times talking shit. ~ https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2602078657?t=5h25m50s
just remove all epic rosethorn, 100% lego bow and anything max tempered
i sadly have to think a regional ban on some redflag east countries are necessary.
Have you guys not realized that he just says shit and doesnt thin?
RACIST (REALIST)
You guys post more videos of Dusty than he does and its comical honestly
i mean what do you expect guild leaders get brought up in here all the time
the jester is there to be made fun of, no?
I mean go with what you feel but dont post his videos and ping me in them
oh just a reply am bing chilling rn
Actually do though haha
for all i know item dupe is still going on, I’ve yet to see any case of it happening besides some sus marketplace shops but seeing a lot of high quality materials doesn’t instantly mean they were duped 🤷♂️
My guild leader is playing fucking bingo in town so
I’m doing double work cause furlough I’m tired lmao
as far as im aware the recent patch didnt 100% fix it
its very easy to tell what is using duped resources if youre aware of how all the JM processing and crafting works right now,
the amount of heroic wolf carc, epic otter carc and legendary bass oil that exists for the amount of epic rosethorn and max legendary bows is 100x what could have realistically dropped on the server by standard means given hunting and fishing is still currently bugged.
without a doubt 99% of those materials specifically are duped
Gold is almost back to where it was when the crate dupe was still live, so I would garner to say another gold dupe exists. It went from 0.05-0.07 or so to $1 as the suppliers closed shop. Suppliers reopened and sellers were back at 0.15-0.17. It has now been a week or so now and the sellers are back at 0.07-0.09.
I know very little about hunting/fishing rarities in game if someone found “tech” to generate these resources similar to finding high quality wood/stone I wouldn’t be surprised
All that matters. an i didn't ping you xop , was that to me? 😥
But this all that matters. Facts.
dusty living up to his songs right now lol.
https://youtu.be/C2SharmjmrI?t=190
Vanish , Reputation , La dodger .
all explaining what dusty doing right now lol
VICE don't dupe or cheat kid.
get good, cry more about war dec.
"excuses before the war even starts"
https://www.twitch.tv/dustywhy/clip/NiceWiseHerdKAPOW-2rDIoeOuNGBt7MOa
also vice started end of last phase first time guild together this phase... lol keep making shit up dude. nice.
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its not possible, there is no tech, hunting and fishing specifically have been bugged since phase 1, the issue and current function has not changed and is well documented and fixed on ptr,
high rarity fish and carcasses are exceedingly rare, there is no way around it, people crafting these items have 100% acquired duped resources or duped it themselves.
I’m just sitting here with my lvl 26 lego weps because I couldn’t bother buying fish for so much gold
economy is also stale, the people that are grinding on the daily cant move their mats.
So you think every lego 29 longbow should get removed? Interesting
only the ones crafted at full legendary which require 60 legendary bass, starfish etc
I mean what about the bugged food
in what regard?
Used to craft things in higher rarity than we can do post patch
It just all points to an eventual wipe for me tbh. Too much broken shit getting fixed
yea they are nerfing food,
im not talking about removing this stuff for function its just to punish dupers and removed the duped BS
Well there was 6k quality food that was abused for a period of time.
Yeah I agree duped stuff should go but I think they waited far too long at this point. They gotta remove it very fast but they weren’t fast in removing the dupe nor fast in removing the duped gold
It’s like I sold items on the marketplace for their value, am I now going to get my gold reset because it was purchased with illegitimate gold?
Too much time has passed for anything to realistically be done about item/gold deletion. It has passed too many hands and would be a monumental task. Their indecision towards the exploits and bugs in a timely manner has made it so most/all of it is irreversible. At this point, I can only see their inaction as negligence.
am personally in favor of just keep throwing wood into the fire, "we are already burning", maybe some temporary band aids to keep the alpha servers running.
I think people at this point just draw conclusions based on their own personal vendettas.
Enemy guild got money by selling resources bought by duped gold? I didn’t do that so remove their gold!
Enemy guild has gear crafted with high tier materials? Remove their gear but ignore my gear that used food buffs giving way more than their intended amount.
This shit is all subjective.
6k qual food, source?
It was brought up a few times in this discord. I don't know anything about it, personally.
nah there is a pretty clear line you can draw looking at user data that punishes actual offenders, i dont think its ever too late
6k food? i saw 1,8k but thats at high rarity.
6k qual food is fake news
by all means ban the dupers but I don’t want my bow removed because I accidentally bought a duped legendary ash wood. Shit is ridiculous
thats not what im talking about,
im talking about specific, rare, easily verifiable instances where the craft required intentional repeated acquisition of duped materials for huge amounts of gold, or it was duped personally.
Aight so I said dupers get banned and yeah clear trading between a duper and alts or rmters should get banned. But again if I bought a few lego fish from some random market because I had the cash should I have my level 29 bow removed?
no, if you bought a few thats whatever,
if you bought 200 to full lego craft your bow and max temper it, yes, because i doubt anyone doing this wasnt aware of what they were doing
Well that's good. I was looking into the 5240 longbows for a bit, and it seemed plausible that they used the (rumored) 6k food exploit with heroic fish. Figured it was pretty close to 6k, but I was unsure.
When I looked into the craft assuming duped legendary fish and being full legendary it was mathematically correct with just the base rare food which I thought was odd. Surely they'd have a buff from node/guild/clothes in addition to rare food which would push it above 5240.
I feel like this is going to take a ton of time to decide how much of a material was used in a craft constitutes removal of the item. Intrepid decides oh if I acquired 20 fish its okay but 60 isn’t allowed? Just BS all around
I don't think it is my job to uphold the integrity of the test/game/whateverthefuckyouwanttocallit. That's on the dev team and the people running it. If I see someone selling obviously duped items, am I meant to not buy them? My moral concious is clear. If they didn't want them in the game, they should have done something about it instead of letting it go on for weeks, fuck, or a month+ at this point.
nah, they have tools that automatically group different types of players based on trade activity, and its not about the amount its about the trail left behind that reveals intent, its not perfect but its achievable to punish most people that did dodgy BS outside of just the clear RMTERs and people that personally duped
if their tools can prove beyond a reasonable doubt people were intentionally repeatedly trying to acquire duped materials, lynch them, thats all im saying
try get a bit more people than just the source dupers/rmters
I watched guildies who flipped blue carph weps in global get their entire gold stack deleted and quit the game even though they never personally used the event. They were just flipping stuff for profit. So whatever these tools are I don’t agree with the method used there.
if you do business with dodgy people doing dodgy things theres a risk
like real life bro do your background checks before someone tries to sell you some super expensive BS for cheap
the pawn shops lose their items if they are stolen and are out of the cash they paid
thats my philosophy
Bro its a game I don’t even check names of shops I’m not running a fucking background check everytime I use the marketplace
market is different
i know a lot of people that did buisness with people who ended up being banned and didnt lose anything
i think if someone is losing gold or items theres a bit more to the story than they are leading on
Maybe Dunhold was onto something with the legal contract. If it was up to Bjamal, he'd have everyone he trades with signing one.
Vetting every trade you make is unrealistic. I have traded 50+ people a day for about a week when I was making most of my gold. Am I meant to search their names in this discord or something? Read all of their posts? That isn't going to happen.
99% of players see item they buy it and if they get their items removed or banned for that it’s a braindead move for a game
Every blue carphin weapon from that event was deleted no matter how it was obtained
i agree but this isnt whats happening,
i think they are pretty reserved with bans or removal of gold/items and plenty of people get away with risky buisness,
i think people who get stuff removed will lie and play victim but they did shit to deserve it they arent sharing
Didn’t have to engage in anything suspicious, they were snapped from the game and any gold used to buy them was taken out as well
idont feel this is entirely true,
they manually went through removing them and not all the gold or even the weapons were deleted
The only blue carphin weapons left were obtained from farming regular mobs
They removed anything that came from that event, full stop
Or maybe the half dozen stories I heard this about from multiple guilds were just all sus duping liars 🤷♂️
im not gonna die on that hill but there were a few people i knew who said they got their weapon from event and it didnt get taken, but they could be mistaken i dont know personally
regardless it doesnt make much of a difference to what we are talking about
anyone with the gold to buy a weapon like that at the time would have had the brains and knowlege to know it was obtained from an exploited event and its on them for taking that risk
I never interacted with the event I thought it was working as intended. I didn’t know it was spawning like 3 times an hour, I thought the weapons were obtained at a rate of 1 every hour or so.
If I bought one of those weps it would’ve been gone and my gold not returned to me. How am I supposed to know it’s bugged? How is someone who doesn’t no life the game like I did supposed to know if I didn’t?
sometimes there are civilian casualties in a war against cheaters
i do think the context youre talking about is unfavorable which is why i advocate for conservative punishment only when they feel its warranted beyond a reasonable doubt, what they did with those weapons isnt what i would have done and it was a manual process not through the kind of tool im talking about which would need to be used for the current econ issues that are way more complicated
this reminds me of how he talked during tourney :(
bad thing is, this was not the first war he dodged after talking all this shit on twitch....
He said we don't have the numbers, said we are just econ players . said a lot of bullshit lol.
here is another war dodge he did I think a week or so ago?
https://youtu.be/7HliB-8AQiU?si=rJQAS9yuBVrXO-oj
we "VICE" record most of our gameplay so any facts we can produce for any bullshit lie this kid makes up.
its just annoying he streams an says this stupid shit about my guild.
we can show how we made our gold etc, many receipts . saying we are dupers etc.
all the videos and screen shots show otherwise.. hm
I work really hard to get VICE where its at, and we didn't cheat or dupe to get here. so fuck anyone that says otherwise.
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AI is getting good
The carph event items were not 'sketchy' until intrepid removed them and called them sketchy in the same hour, it was farmed for weeks, and sold in in the market for weeks. Nothing was ever said about it being an exploit, except for loud mouthed discord anti polar propagandist largely in part of srix and polar haters.
it was a horrible means to deal with the problem
they were slow to react to it and made the 'problem solving' method effect other players who never stepped foot in event room
Better file with the Weewoo next time!
whatever tool they are used to remove that event gear/gold miss me with that shit
there was also false positives in p2 bans that they had to rectify with some market trades too
I mean the argument could be made that sure that people knew it was bugged and did it anyways until the power gap was soo big from it , it literally ruined phase 3
even if they do track it all they are too slow to act, and when they do act because its so late they fk with players who interacted with the market.
im fine with being slow though because its alpha and they are testing/trying shit themselves but its turbo cancer
Tbf people didn’t start off hating polar , they did that to themselves through actions and the “propaganda” isn’t actually fake news and it was already widely known certain people were career cheaters
and i think its cringe as a player to call for a delayed ban/removal of items cause it will affect honest players
alternatively advocate for permanent fixes/wipe
And to top it off , the same people who were aligning were also scam artists , not to mention rmt or dupes or any other dozens of things , it’s not everyone else
A lot of players knew about the event being bugged.
The best gamers don’t have to cheat or have a crazy advantage to be the best , legit exists
it was overtuned yes, but if its been that way every phase can we really call it a bug. it was only strong this phase because they nerfed everything else and they overlooked it, it was rewards for an event which every other phase was mid asf
I think overturned is the wrong context
The timer was bugged , wasn’t that the actual issue , they knew this and took advantage ?
depends who u ask 😄
Idk , I’ve never had a room reset or deleted ! Items removed, non of that, but the fact remains that everyone knows they were hunting advantages at any cost
you can have your opinion but personally if i could press a button that deleted the 20% of my shit that probably has some duped materials in it if it meant all the people that have used majority duped materials get all their stuff deleted i would put lube on the button and and slap my balls on it for 3 hours straight
honest good players can always get their gear back, its all getting wiped anyway so id rather some of it go early if it means we can lynch some piggies
putting a number on it becomes weird. (lego starfish bought on market) 20% of your lego longbow = 100% deleted.
buying duped mats, having someone buy ur honest mats for duped gold its so messy unless its dealt with early
if they were to do something about it now (so late) it would fk so many things all the systems are connected.
ban dupers though hard agree. you want people to play ironman ashes of creation so i dont interact with 'sketchy traders'
i agree with you im just out for blood, i dont want ironman i just want to make sure people that did everything they could to abuse it without technically actually abusing it catch some punishment
shit's dead jamal just wait for next wipe
HARBINGERS HYPE
nah they won't wipe with harbinger, january at the earliest
yea i more meant im hyped for harb soon
This is not true. It was bugged in the way that it would start up again immediately after it was finished. So you could farm it on repeat for 24 hours.
It’s pointless to hate any guild, waste of cognition.
Overtuned is not a bug
was just a bunch of ppl complaining since they didn’t get in on time
Nvm clearly you don’t know what you are talking about 
I see why ppl leave this discord it’s just brain melting
All items with the Item ID from the event were deleted. Even ones that were sold. They were all min-rolled too. People got better blues from drops from mobs whilst doing said event. Basically if it dropped, it stayed. If it was rewarded as an event item,they were coded differently. They just mass wiped that item ID.
Also yeah, the Carphin event was a known thing since Phase 2. The reason the power gap got so massive in P3 was because of the massive nerf to drop rates creating a huge power gap.
And then after people had already geared the fuck out of Rosarium gear they nerfed drop rates harder really pulling the rug from players late to the party.
It was supposed to have "4 hour" cooldown after the event finished. If memory serves me right, and half the time it didn't and could be started up right after event finish.
My understanding is the carphin events, being the 2 there are on about a 4hr timer but yes that one was spammable or had a level of control to start it early.
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I missed the shitposting this morning, rip. Quick question though, I'm thinking of doing a Warhammer project and want to decide on a Skaven design and need some help deciding
Option D…
Skaven suck, play a real race. 
alright I put option d in the modeler and this is what I got

GFS to the Cats who showed up last night
21% of voters in Winstead were EmberBeards. Our services are available for the next election. 
6/6 elections won 🏆
I can offer you an otterly wonderful hug as payment. Alternatively I can shamelessly beg 
We dont log in for less than 600g downpayment
And 15g/vote on top, 10g/vote if u lose
The sooner u lock in the better before someone else does 
@feral hollow I need 700 gold please 
20 minute cooldown with no early starts ever. The update to all item stats just made the drops there better than in previous phases so it became an issue. Overtuned by oversight. Coming from the literal first group in the tower this phase btw
The only acceptable AI.....absolute goat.
Dusty running that pretty little mouth again..
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- ai rap music
- using "gay" as an insult
this is a self roast more than anything
get a sense of humor nerd
@fresh cliff Never include Rust or Ark when you mention MMOs 
Also hating phase 2 crafting and glazing this crafting system is CRAZY COMMS my dude, the argument "everyone needed the same boss farms or mats for X recipe in p2" is still the exact same thing right now with all the BIS recipes 
they are not MMO's tho..
make higher effort vids, lol, i can doomscroll sora and get 100x better stuff than this
let the man make his cringe videos for his guild man
i didnt make it
wheres the ankle biter ring leader, after getting dunked for 4h in a row he dipped.
Stop it young man.
LOL i died
You understand it’s suppose to be bad right
I wasn't sure because I remember that the same channel posted a pvp video with 18 minutes of AI music
but if that's the case then nvm, i just thought it was from someone whe deliberately releases slop thinking it's good
if the point is for it to be bad then it's great, my bad, lol
You act like there’s week of investment time to make these videos. Tango whips one together every 30 minutes
Holy 60 year old boomer cringe ai shit
Lmao THATS THE POINT
It hurt to watch that
Oof
sry we dont have polar s-tier animeme generator 
just some island kid that lives in my shed
don't put polar and s-tier memes in the same sentence or we'll have lexicat boomer posting with text overlays of names/guilds over actual media
speaking of which, this video is dellor and north
https://youtu.be/tmf3D9kUHBc?si=B0y6RFBssRcX4Yhu&t=35
Jimmy The Junkie from the Australian TV show Housos and Dumb Criminals takes on the Vanilla Ice classic Ice Ice Baby.
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So whose putting up master armor smith
New Aela innit
Does Robbie even play the game?
There's a new mayor now
Whose the new goat
verdix or somthin like that
Yea verdixx from judgement
Musicmaster
@stoic cape does the patch today help with putting up master armor smith?
^ this
As Mayor of Sunhaven I would vow to bring grand master armorsmithing to Shol once and for all. After master tanning of course.
Not enough building slots to do both in a village.
Well.... I guess you could but you lose something else
Village has 1 gm and 1 master capability. As an aspiring mayor you should know this.
I do know that which is why I corrected myself 
There might be more people talking in this discord than actual people playing the game at this point
Harbinger waiting room....
Oh that's not even a question lol it's a fact
We need Medium Armor to make the upgrade! I am having my guild / our alliance run this now so we can get the upgrade going! Any help from others is appreciated!
I wish to hear more about the dwarf drama 
What rumors have you heard so far ?
Not enough and none that I paid attention to in detail 
Ah, fair, it’s really not that deep, it was just a problem purge that is all

Calling all Dwarven clerics (primary or secondary interested players) actively looking for a new home, the Iron Coin sees you, values you, and welcomes you
Wait did we actually get new.nodes to level 3?
damn I leave this game for a year and come back a day late for the war of the hammers event... guess i dipped that guild at the right time
NA is highway man, they killed rik when he was doingthe van to build the GM LW
Who killed him
Na guild highway man. Part of the alliance with verdix (mayor of new aela).
The leather working bench would have been gm by now
Those assholes lol
Yep. Basically so they can get the credit of completing a gm bench I'd imagine. I'll still be giving credit to Rik though
War of the Hammers is what we are all here for!
everyone ready for tomorrow?
Someone is believing the lies that Thoghli has been pushing... Oh and you are a Thoghli loyalist... That is the reason you are back in after being kicked from Dunhold in the past.
Whoa couple things there, everything you said was a lie but the loyal part, I didn’t get kicked from
Dunhold , I didn’t rejoin the guild … and prove what thoghli said was a lie !
Y’all dwarves are sober. That’s the problem
like any English civil war, loyalist/royalists versus all
Well, thoghli can't hold his ale. He better stay sober.
You know he is playing you right? I know you are smart enough to realize that.
texas vs alabama
The dwarves drinking elven pink stuff
Playing what tho , not sure what playing me means ?
Incorrect... We are working and not drinking at all 😭
Texas will win that shit
No wonder y’all got your jimmies in a jam
looks like dukes of hazzard sippnig some coffee mixed with moonshine lol
He deleted everything on purpose. And not just because of email issues.
Wait a minute, you’re in the Witch Cult.
Mara did you miss the discussion yesterday?
be nice to Gimbly or he'll use ArcheAge martial arts on you
So it was YOU spreading pink stuff @shell halo QoV = Witch Cult
Not sure what gave you that impression
That little button called QoV. I know who’s in there, y’all plotting to take over Verra!
QoV is queens of Verra
Aka the Secret Plot to take over Verra!
If that is what you wish to believe
Bruh Solv, drop the toddler way to speak jfc
You been roleplay this toddler way to behave for 48h, dont you get tired?
solid solid
That is exactly what I was thinking.
Bam, you could always fuck off a cliff if memeing bothers you that much.
nah he was around
But he has now gone silent just like his dictator Thoghli.
Maybe he is speaking for thoghli since we havent seen thoghli sicne he got blasted for 4h.
@drifting herald did you sign a contract?
A contract of obedience.
Contract Signed = / = Line of Thought Denied
Or maybe servitude
Yea and people became issues and started needless drama
You signed the contract, you dirty dog
He is the issue. Not even giving people a chance to save guides or other things they had worked on for years. Again we're you in a hole yesterday?
Anyway, have fun putting your cognitive bandwidth on some shit that happened in an alpha.
It wasn't that he was cleaning up the discord... He was killing it completely.
You were 1 step away from being kicked. And when you tried to join back you were denied. It was a unanimous vote by everyone in leadership (including Thoghli) to not let you back in.
Selling Coffins with your AOC tag on them with built in computers. cost of coffin has 10 years of Asian boy paid to play on your acc remotely while your dead in the ground from waiting 35 years for the game and then dying right before release. this is our back up plan. basic model coffins starting at 19,999$
huh?
Use your eyes and read.
For tomorrow 
Why is there a bellybutton system (navel)
Idk they mentioned wanting to implement boat and ship parts similar to caravans
Also I ran out of ideas 
I know but it was spelled wrong. 😂 Naval is boats, navel is your bellybutton.
navel system is what we been waiting on 10 years on
on a side note. Ultima Online has everything implented on the hate watch list
i really dont get why nobody just copies ultima code for code to a 3d client. literally be best game ever made
You forgot "Steven getting his party killed bc hes not paying attention when they are playing"
Asherons Call was peak golden age
hmm ill youtube that. i remember seeing the name but never played

