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Or implement corruption reputation, the more white names u kill the more your account loses reputation ( all alts too) and then eventually u reach a threshold where u remain permanently corrupt or u reach a state where guards perma kill u in town blocking u out from those systems,
So many ways to increase the risk of corruption
Little timolope playing with gatherers and systems in ashes of creation.
i would love to be banned from towns because of my corruption reputation that would be fun
hey i got to lvl 7 in this phase
Training pug groups in SB on level 15s when your 25 and yapping encourages quitting too. Guess who did that to me? It’s fair ball it is what it is. No hate at all but
You beat a lot of people in this discord already.
Then u get forced to play only with the black market, which is in the middle of no where and were ppl constantly pvp but its the only available hub for corrupted players🤔
right clicking mobs in a cave for 100 hours is not the gameplay for me
Archage had the same system tbh but u need a pirate island or pirate node to send the bad people away too and basicly the guard outside of that node will attack and so on.
Archage called it infamy
You used to be able to cc that griefer and he'd die to his own mob train
lol the point still remains
Yup mentioned it just above what u said
Make a big report if people think this shit is not right and wait on intrepid. All people can do.
god i would love to be able to flag up and CC people off nodes again
Yup already submitted feedback and bug reports. Oh and I broke Corvus again
i do think they should implement a archeage pirate like faction like if u have too much blight u basicly get kicked out of the nodes to the pirate island node and ur KOS to eveything on mainland and if u die u can only respawn back at the pirate island node.
you can have the mayor of the node be the one with the most blight 😛 honostly think we can have a rather solid game loop with a pirate faction/node
cheeks ✅ this but freaks out when i do so 
might as well unblock me if you love vaguely responding to my posts for the entire day ;)
loser mentality, they break so easy.
just like you knowingly break systems, report it, yet continue to do so for days after taunting other players on their materials they grinded for 
im just sad tmugsy blocked me, my clown reacts dont hit the same if they arent on his messages
Time to hop back on the game and show him what the deal is right! Let’s get after it
Built soft, not meant for pvp of any kind
Be nice to have people come back
you are decking crafter guilds and forfeiting after stealing their mats I don't think you even believe it is pvp 💀
I know a 65 year old Chad in an rp guild that shows up to scrims
hes 65 hes got nothin but time
Im 70, what do you have against old people
dude freaked out with his guildies all showing up after realizing i pinged the only person that actually will do actions on bad actors like him I am loving this
Nothing, I'd love to be able to MMO with my gramps if he were still around
he was laughing at people saying cheeks is reported to cs but this he could not let go without doing 50 posts lol
plenty, but none were mentioned in my post, so maybe put your victim card back next to your aarp card >:)
Bro imagine playing with gramps
Wait wtf why aren't you in otters? We have a collection of boomers, get over here 
So to say all pvpers do is gank lower levels... no. I was protecting my gramps
kinda cute\
All boomers must be otters it is the only way 
I’m not really 70. I just feel it
AVERAGE AGE OF OTTERS GO
Cry would also hunt me down so
Reported for lying, burn in hell!
Oh shit average must be 40s.... I wasn't kidding we have many older folks so it pulls the numbers up. I'm 36 and the oldest in leadership though 
About to be 39
im trying to get my grandma to start gaming, cuz she is bored and lonely. only problem is i gave her a laptop a couple of weeks ago and she started tapping on the screen wondering where the keyboard (its between you and the screen abuela)
holy yall mfers old
How old
26
tims like 12
Ya I used to be try hard gamer but now I have other shit on the go and just don't have time. So while I may be a casual gamer dad now it wasn't always this way 
One day you wake up and everything hurts. It’s a great experience
the ibuprofin phase
Shit goes down like New worlds player count
For the love of God stretch, your back will thank you
I worked hard labor for alot of years before I kinda retired so that’s a big part of it
Trades?
yeah i did manual labor most of my life until this job, so i am never going back to that life lol
Trucking unloading my own rig
Sitting at a desk all day isn't exactly good for your body either 
adding this to my notes folder
Yuuuup, that'll do it. You still got all your fingers though yeah?
Oh yeah. 4 knee, 3 ankle surgeries later
i would rather sit at a desk in a comfy office at 68 degrees then ever be out in the heat doing manual labor again. or the cold. and because of the manual labor, i have 2 bad knees and a bad shoulder : (
Hey we're in the money baby. Can still game lol
Amen
ah yes, the absolute meltdown over 1 powerpoint slide that everyone has been working on for 3 whole work days
Marrying a doctor helps too 😉
I've got a backup plan. I'll just move to Florida and hit up the bars near retirement communities. Get written into some wills
Lmao
I HAVE A SUGAR MOMMY TOO
You have a plan that involves willingly moving to Florida?
Boy you ain't wild you mild
That trophy husband life
is bf6 supposed to be hard, why is every game i play full of dads?
Whoaaaaa
Reaction times go way down hill as you age. Also when you refuse to get glasses and you can’t see shit.. also a big factor
gotta get the weakaura for your mouse cursor too or else you cant find it
To be fair the game effects today are fucking insane sometimes
i used to not have a problem with it on wow, but then shadowlands happened and everyone got lightshow on a 1 min cd
Purple flash bangs and glow in the dark nightclub vibes
appears 0-0 when they abuse all the crafters they want before war score can count, immediately disband guild to reform new one and repeat
in game characters that participate in the exploits are: Cheeks, sargaz, squeak, burnone, sloppytoppy, bong, Momir, and zarok
The real question is, if I make a character named leeks will I get an invite?
I'm sorry
Wait…so you just screenshot all the stuff that the man willingly posted themselves and expect people to???? What exactly?
Lemon must be feeling kinda lonely, rejected so hes here just trying to get reactions.
encouraging players to quit, even mentions them multiple times in discord to taunt them further after exploiting war systems to steal their materials. Shameful display and he posts it all himself as soon as his timeout is done 
The only constant we have in Ashes is people being upset with Cheeks. Been 3.5 phases of it.
just putting the pieces together, making it clear it is intentional exploiting even after he himself decided to submit a bug report on broken systems, but decides to push the limits of the game to abuse the others in the playerbase
That’s honestly the tamest taunting I’ve ever seen.
Shol doesn’t deserve Cheeks at this point. Y’all have gone soft.
yah bro is stupid for gloating even after posting he knows it is a bug that he is working around, other people have even posted the guild disbanding to halt wars to start up a new one
I hope <@&519722995778977812> will be able to take a look
its mental illness bro nothing more xD hes hurt i think
I'm sure pinging a CM constantly is gonna get their attention.
I mean it’s borderline harassment to badger someone in tells to give back hard earned materials.
Yes please ping steven, margaret the whole mod team.
maybe theyll take a look, its happened before 
Honestly probably giving Cheeks a mount. Killing people in town and stealing their materials is Steven’s Vision come alive.
agreed on the 2nd part, but going around war cooldowns is blatant exploiting and dude is giddy about it
im sure he will be more cautious about exploiting with guild disbands in the future after my posts, im glad i can help the current state of the game
Wouldn't be the first time they gave someone a mount for that. Haze got a frog in p2 for a mistake that was made.
It is a pretty comical work around to get more war decs. Especially when the cooldown for war declarations has been bugged lately.
margaret even said today the CMs are here to help, i have no issue with pinging the people i know that are able to make decisions on something like this especially when actively encouraging players to quit the game is happening
Not gonna speak for the CMs, but my view is you have the choice not to be in this channel. This is the only channel it's allowed in for a reason.
not my issue, just making it clear he is intentionally exploiting around war cooldowns and encourages players to quit after abusing bugged interactions with them. thanks for the response
Hey ren, good to see you again! Question - are there rules about excessively pinging intrepid staff?
Let him keep badgering the moderation.
That's not a Discord issue. A CM can't help you. That's a CS issue. Those impacted can submit CS reports.
Falls under spam if those being pinged believe it to be excessive. Typically one ping per conversation/topic is the max.
Lovely, I'd urge you to check the messages above!
Thats within 2h lol
if that is not illness lol
Falls under spam if those being pinged believe it to be excessive. Typically one ping per conversation/topic is the max. RIP bam lmfao
Keep pinging
the gall and the delusion is "my psychiatrist is in love with me" level
Is that a real thing people think? 
gg thanks ren for lmk who to contact for support, my mistake on the CMs I misunderstood their purpose here
It's still spam, but what I meant was those you ping might be more likely to say something about it since they're the ones actively being pinged and, in this case, mods wouldn't notice the issue as easily.
But ya, one ping per concern and CS reports, not Discord.
thanks for the heads up!
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thanks for keeping our discord streets clean
@srixun
When in doubt, make a ticket. CS always has an answer... sometimes.
Can be hard to check and read the pins, great work Ren
Gotta come play in the streets if we’re gonna talk about em!
I do the sweeping to keep things clean
I've made 2 tickets and both have been dealt with terribly and never actually reached a resolution so X for doubt 
when in doubt ping steven
Hey, I tried. My tickets are about 70% solved, lol.
If you want to DM me maybe I can help explain why
I reported someone for global chat harassment yesterday and it was responded to and had a nice convo with CS today about it, they were extremely responsive.
Actually 1 is still open they just straight up stopped responding because they didn't have any answers 
Yes. Ping the man whos dick deep in making this game and still recovering from surgery. Surely that'll work out well
Makes sense if you think about it
I guess but that doesn't help me much
Not every question or concern has an answer sadly
Can you escalate a ticket for more answers or a clarification on non replies?
I'm still stuck here missing cosmetics I paid good money for 
I thought they said next batch of cosmetics is Harbringers patch
Ones that were on the list?
Ive never had a ticket responded to in one day followed by a conversation idk if i just had like a crazy situation or what but they were on it
i would like to pay money and get cosmetics
Its usually like 24-36hrs for me on replies
Sometimes I get back to emails immediately just because the time of day/week/month
Ya I paid for 1 pack and recieved a totally different pack and they just kind of said I dunno that's the one you have

there is a goose ship calling my literal name
you will never get that
its sad bam deleted all his older messages mentioning my name now its back down to under 10 :(
Wait theres boat cosmetics? What
And you went through the transaction dates to verify which one you thought you bought?
it's unhealthy to be so vindictive, holidays are good hallmarks of touching grass
Wait Halloween is a paid holiday?
Yes, I go to work on holloween and they pay me
What is halloween?
H O N K (but in swan)
IS THIS A THING IN THIS GAME? I NEED IT
..... man, I hope they open up the cosmetic shop again. My wallet is weeping rn
and you wonder why people think you are from aura lel
did you join in on the abuse in bypassing war cooldowns perhaps 
Thank you for searching me.
why did you delete your older spams about me 
Delete? Spam about you? ok now you're tripping.
i mean all your messages from before this phase about me are gone i liked reading them :/
You guys should go out on a date and get it over with at this point
Shut up greg
been over a year i think since bam saw me at lv24 and ragetyped at me for my enveus tag 💔
even had the untiltable mountain in my /tells like this 🤣
You gonna officiate the wedding? You are FatherGreg after all.
on the newly released schooner 👀
THIS GAME IS PERFECT IN EVERY WAY
nah keep throwing shit into the fire
The gang of 5 lead by Cheekie I believe. Dude's behavior is shit, and this is an exploit. It doesn't matter if they know about it or if others are using it. It's an MMO where you have 5 toons so who am I accusing? Beats me I don't have access to tell.This is why single character per server should be used in games like this. <sigh>
One character per server?
Eh in the mean time let people get abused? Nah. Ban them. You don't want that kind of playerin the community.
oh we going back at it again huh
Nope, you miss the point. It is even more delicious when they work against their own self interest. They get more heavily invested in how "things are and going to be" and when they are changed from their mental meta, it crushes their souls.
And yet I hear of Bounties for crafters locations? Are you in the 5? Cause you ain't playing even close to nice. Great that you've found more ways to obfuscate the system aka exploit. It's one thing to do it, but at least don't act like children when you do it. I'll send you an out of line screen shot if you want, but honestly I don't really usually have the time. I just click ignore in game and move on. But I don't like friends being targeted. That is a line.
i think the real humor is that all these hardcore "pvp" guilds spent a lot of money just for this game to destroy them, in alpha lmao
You missed the point. If you know there are issues. Then stop abusing them. Act like an adult in game.
It's called do that either random or with consent from the other party otherwise it's still harassment. We are not paid workers doing QA.
The recommendation I got was to report to cs, I recommend if you have been impacted by this that you do so!!
I posted a bunch of screenshots above with evidence from the user himself explaining how he does it, feel free to use those or use your own evidence in a cs report
3 lies in their guild title. Server first? Hardcore? PvX? Seems like a lot of crying from people with this guild tag line.
I have seen a thousand dipshit chestthumpers come and go over the years. They come in full of piss and vinegar, and leave as shaved kittens varying times later. Everyone used to piss themselves that "X guild is coming to Ashes and is going to ruin it for everyone!" and X guild would sit in chat and or testing and be way less scary once they had buttons to click. Then they would internally blame each other for being those waxed hairless felines and self destruct. You lose a bunch who cry and stomp off to "other games that treat me like I am a big boy now!" and the cycle repeats. And the one or two who remain, seed the next round of dipshittery. Look to the beacons here from like 2018 in the vid, all of the guilds who were supposed hot shit and going to drive Ashes pvp are all dead and gone. They might have one or two randoms who still try to keep the flame alive, but they dead. The same will happen again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqIquwVwvKk&feature=youtu.be
Have they all also been classic wow guilds?
Maybe don’t bug abuse war cooldowns, I hope people include you in their cs report 
Oh you mean a reason to be a dick? Shitty justification for shit behavior.
Sometimes when you go deep your dick is covered in it.
Are you related to Blood Ninja?
It’s just game! Report it and move on. You guys gotta find better shit to yell at eachother about. The guys living so rent free in all yours heads!
me when dads ping me with terrible takes and completely inaccurate information...i think this isnt the right alpha test for some of you
It’s almost like in a game when sombody fucks with you.. you fuck with them back.
Band together go fight lol
another message encouraging players to quit the alpha because you decide to exploit around war cooldowns 🤣
cant believe i won another phase
should be the easiest decision for anyone at intrepid to see booting you is much better for their playerbase 
You just have to spread them cheeks to get to the creamy starfish center.
you are disgusting
are you even playing? you have no idea what you're commenting on. armchair behavior
I’d support that
me when i drop guild to avoid further pvp, baiting corruption for the players trying to regain their materials, also making it so they can not declare their own war instead of a forfeit - so a player trying to regain their materials needs to risk losing their gear to reclaim any fraction of materials back
meds
Tims just doing what he does every phase. Tests the shit outta people's mental
pretty sure intrepid beats him on that.
You right.
its funny cause he blocked me today yet keeps popping back in to reply indirectly to my messages
i dont think openly admitting youre a bitch and dodge pvp is quite the message you wanted to get out there
AURA yall bunch of bitches for dropping guild too
dropping guild and logging is some of the most L behavior and all the popular guilds do it which is hilarious to me
me when i dont understand what is typed
nah you just type like an idiot and i didnt bother to fix it after realizing i had to translate it to english
see how i didnt delete log or dodge when there was a misunderstanding cause im not a bitch 😮
brother has a folder for ashes screenshots acting like hes not a Tylenol baby
now i wanna binge watch letterkenny again. thanks Kace.
best thing to come from canada honestly
The Weekend, Ryan Gosling, Ryan Reynolds, Hayden Christensen, Keanu Reeves, Jim Carrey theres a few others worth a mention but Drake put you guys on negative.
nah letterkenny > the weekend
huh? 
guess they dont want me to link shit, weird flex.
either way, banger cuz of daft punk co-writing and producing, and hes 1000% singing about cocaine.
After Hours is a banger album with synthwave mixes
hmm ya... dis is true, i did see his last show in toronto, man knows how to put on a show.
take that back, all dressed chips or bust.
Barb, barb , hey barb lol
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I was there on Alpha 2 Launch. I haven't been doing PvP, yet. It's called having a job.
What does having a job have to do with not pvping? Sounds like an excuse because ur scared
My jimmies are so rustled right now its unbelievable
PvPers are jobless people, live in their basement
If you are a pvper you are a communist
Is semi retired considered jobless... asking for a friend.
If you are a PvPer your place is in a gulag
you're* is a good contraction to use there
who we got winning the siege tomorrow
If you are a pvper, you have foot pedals
I hope you all had a wonderful Halloween.
Nah fuck dem kids
Thats illegal
Santa is not real
bought a few bags of candy and only had like 5 trick or treaters so i can't complain
Alright Bam is on a villian arc I see. Someone give me a snickers
i only had one trick or treater and luckily subway gave some candy out today so i could give it to the lil witch
I was never a good guy wym
I had a good 150 kids this year despite the cold and wet night. Ran outta candy by 730pm.
https://tenor.com/view/2pac-tupac-tupacshakur-makaveli-westside-gif-3222698360535014781
dont try come boding right now
You fuck kids? Bro...

Shibari crafting nice and safe in their bubble.
whats the matter, your friends arent on and you just can't handle ganking a crafter without 4 other guys to hold your dick for you?
I'm not on, either. Poe 1 league start was today.
I don't need to be on to know you advertised in global and popped food.
Edit: Sorry, it was trade, not global.
wait, so someone is reporting on me to you? lmao ya'll are pathetic
Jesus, Supple really is a joke
you underestimate how many people dislike you. people are messaging us to ask how much to kill you after your mental illness was spread in global for 3 days.
lmao yeah buddy, and you have friends IRL- shit you come up with some funny fantasies
But hey, if you want to abuse war decs being busted so you can surprise gank crafters from small guilds every night, don't be surprised when you get called the fuck out for it
I'm over here laughing on discord with my buddies right now though at you thinking anyone outside Supple and your greifing buddies give a enough of a shit about your feels to be upset with me- hell I've had people thanking me for the warning, or commiserating because you did the same thing to them or one of their guildies. You made the choice to put on the black hat, and that's OK, it's part of the game- but there being social consequences for your choices is also part of the game. Me calling you out for your shit and letting the server know the shit you pull and not to trust you is also part of the game. Reputation matters in MMORPGs- we are a community. And part of being in a healthy commuity is calling out the bad actors, the douchebags, the people who make the game less fun.
Though I will admit to having lots of fun seeing how mad you all get about being called out- the attempts to gaslight, cheels straight up lying and accusing me of shit, the "people are mad at you for calling us out", the "stop crying" - like dude that's some highschool shit, it's hilarious.
@novel turret
Buying war dec on VICE 40g
Tell those you commiserate with to report to cs, plenty of screenshots of self admissions of guilt that pair very nicely with the whining and gaslighting 😂
Especially since he felt confident enough in putting a cs ticket in to silence you for your global efforts to help others be aware of their guild drop exploits

The biggest aura dih rider got smth to say?
You calling me Aura dih rider is rich
They aren't even Black Hats. They don't RP, they are just assholes.
They've been in there every night
@manic tiger remember aunt ^
yes
Trick or Treat!!
What in the bucked tooth basement dweller fuck is going on in here?
Marching to the inevitable

Everyone whipped out their epeens on the table and they are comparing sizes
Many of us are employed lolll
I bought my $500 pack with money I panhandled 
15 hours at a minimum wage job is not the level of employment I'm talking about. I don't think I need to list my bonafides in order to discuss the workings of an Alpha MMO or activites that are happening. While I'm sure there is much that happens that I don't know of. The little I do is what I'm commenting on.
Are you gonna start telling us that you also own a car and a house and thusly you can't pvp because of said things too
No time to PvP while shining the coin collection. You wouldn't understand 
true only the unemployed homeless and/or living in parents basements pvp
I'm talking about having in ordinate amounts of time to play the game. That is all. Maybe I just want to relax and explore other aspects of the game as well? Somehow I don't remember this being a FFA PvP only game, but perhaps they chnged something?
The funniest part is i can with complete certainty guarantee you that he doesn't make half of what she does
But alas...we are dealing with the mentally ill here and there is no use in attempting to reason. Its just sad
PvPers need their own server so I can explore/gather in peace
maybe you should move on to a different game. the PVX aspect is the whole point of the game
Ewwwwwwww
Goose puts in like 70hr+ weeks. Shes got that bread
PvPers need to get timeout ingame if they kill players that are not willing to participate in consensual pvp.

Okay thats a cursed image. Jesus fuck my eyes
But also, I would never disparage someone for their job. Thats gross.
Any employment > none. Shading someone whos working is just bleh
Going to start a petition to disallow the quitters and non players from typing in this discord
PvPers are killing this game because they are killing players!
I went into a lawless zone and a player walked towards me. It made me feel very afraid and uncomfortable. Steven please fix 

Do you have a horse or scorpion broodling?
Pull it out and let them attack it. When your mount dies, they will be corrupted/red.
This might not be the game for you then Bam, hate to rip the band aid off like that…
All PvPers are unemployed that live in the basement
Wait... you are with EBC Wolves
Aren't you supposed to be good?
If you don't like fights, then you should leave the game now.
Most of the difficult and high rarity resources are going to be in Lawless PvP Zones
Yall are getting hard trolled lol 😆
If you like killing players without consent you belong in the gulag
You might like Farmville more @rough silo
If you pay $100 in ashes to kill players you need to hit refund and go play Call of Duty or Battlefield, this is not the game for you
Hey Cheeks someone told me about your cuck chair and it all makes sense now. You like 5v1s so you can sit in a corner and watch while the other 4 people with you actually fuck over the crafters for you, and you can just go collect the load after.
Don't you think its time to saddle up and move along?
i dont even know what that means but you still seem hurt lmao, unlucky
you pov 4 days later:
I'm having lots of fun 🙂
Its a great game. Not sure if you'd like it though, it requires skill.
You meant Bingo
Can't really wallet warrior your way to feeling like a winner. So probably not for you.
lol you guys are still yelling at cheeks ><
Damn dude does your wife know you're posting videos of her?
ya they are really weird and still upset its been like 4-5 days lmao
They gotta get it in while they can
Ya'll are the ones who were threatening me last night lol
they gotta group and PK em
i wasnt on last night and didnt speak to you "yall", go talk to whoever spoke to you no one cares lmao
Grouping is just the only way supple can kill anyone, i agree
I meant the other people haha
crying for attention
He was with your ganking crew. Just posting shit when I'm crafting. So kinda shows who is really obsessed here if you guys are tracking me.
holy your discord bio WTF LOL you are crying for attention and its sad..sorry have to block you like the rest of the ills
I just want crafters on the server to be able to craft in peace without shitters abusing bugs ganking them
To be fair i thinking Killing people in towns is what they want
Lmao if that makes you feel better. Everyone did say you always run away when you're losing.
How many times has Cheeks ran the crafters cheeks to demand this much outcry 
I duno the story even. I just know everytime i come in here sombody is yelling at him
If it’s under 10 times then man idk. Try a different game maybe? I could see if it’s every day the same target but come on now 
The biggest guild in the server abusing bugs to 5v1 gank crafters, is somehow not what i think they have in mind
I think its more the fact that he's creating a guild, war decking, killing, looting, then disbanding guild to get around the surrender timer.
confirmed lore that Timolope is from North Korea.
Taking a break to let that heat die down
yaya i heard about that. Thats on intrepid to fix tho.. like we dont even know what the fuck the deal with that is
@summer prairie
My PR answer is bad Cheeks
don’t do that
yeah tim, stop decc'ing pve'ers for 3g in daff threads.
ive never disbanded the guild im not sure what that is about, i would probably compare that to people dropping guild to avoid wars and ive seen so many people do that cowardly behavior idk
rug had it coming
On a real note i think thats intended for guilds to be doing etc.. Denying progression is a part of what i think they want. In what manner i guess is debatble but
poor rug. he'll never recover. 
dont bother with these guys man you are talking to people that cannot think critically
He got the right answer, he just isn’t using PEMDAS to get that answer 
i can honestly say, i've never dropped guild, yet tim has dropped at least 15x this phase. mans got more guild coats than a cross dresser at this rate. figure it out tim, who ARE you.
these guys waste more of intrepids time investigating nonsensical tickets full of their tears than anyone
Tim the grim reaper of Shol atm
hes finally embracing his evil internet phase. he's finally taken his true form.
yeah this is definitely a change in behavior from me from p2 and p2.5, for sure
next phase, you'll just be a full time fisherman, becoming figgie 2.0
honestly after what one of the chinese guys streamed to me today, im done this phase - there is WAY more duped items out there than id imagined, its actually so cooked.
the rmt'ers have been going ham this phase, unlocking crafting has really pooched that, lol
and the duping for 2+ weeks unchecked, its a bit disheartening but, testing still has to be done. to the mines we go
nah you guys dont even know how bad it is
what knowledge did you gleam from them, share with the class.
that shit is more cooked than i thought it was and duped items were not removed
Lol, removed the guild name from the message. Don't want the suppliers getting pissed at him
cya next phase <3
And nothing of value was lost
doubtful
its really not hard to tell which chinese guilds are breaking the TOS, there are multiple of them doing it, this is not the place to call people out and i will not be timed out for breaking discord rules.
i mean, ive seen max roll epic rosethorn 8/8, if that isnt an indicator, idk.
yeah, not allowed to share what we've seen or heard, gotta do tickets like diligent lil testers... lol
however bad you think it is, multiply it x100
They cant allow dupes to just go like they have. Really fucks testing up
Bye 👋😎
i dont doubt it... here's hoping p3.5 wont be as bad.
Hopefully, some people ask some of the real questions on the next live stream
Such a dog shit rule on “witch hunting”. They let some guilds get dragged through the mud but the moment you post evidence of the Chinese cheating it’s a timeout and warning 
Like we are literally protecting the worst demographic for gaming
Yeah naming who they ban would be great too
the largest recurring issue ive seen with intrepid is the lack of consistent firm stances on things
I’ll take whatever they decide with a grain of salt if it was just consistent
but they fail to do that so much it’s insane across a ton of various issues
Just stand on business in whatever you decide and I can respect that and roll with the punches. But “rules for thee but not for me” on different situations across multiple players/guilds it’s becoming a headache. Every guilds been a victim of it at one point
It seems as though a loud enough community can sway them in any direction on any topic and that is extremely worrying.
Yep. Problematic
Supposed to be is a very good way of putting it 
You mean a real 3.0 launch. This was 2.75 at best
2.25
Never ask this guy about his own witch hunts 
2.85 with extended warranty.
Ngl, idc about the naming. But it needs to actually happen, can't let people get away with actually cheating in the game. Speed hacks dupe hacks, overlays, damage buff hacks, etc.
I do understand from a dev/alpha perspective you want those people here now, and hopefully with the new EAC Engineer holes can be patched up and those people will be kicked out because the game won't let them in, not because a moderator hand jammed their account info in.
I get the arguement about wanting the people good at finding exploits around, but I can't imagine most involved are finding exploits they are just script kiddie types buying or learning them and then going wild and messing up all the other data intrepid is trying to collect.
As Steven and any reasonable human have said a million times.......finding bugs is amazing and helpful. Abusing bugs is shitty and harmful. It is 2 entirely different things.
100%, it probably scripts that work in multiple UE games, just being applied here. But it's the devs job to catch it. Let hope now the EAC engi spot is filled, and these problems go away
It's probably not people who give a shit about the test doing it either, it's probably RMT sellers, so convincing ppl not to do it will never work. The holes have to patched
You don't need to dupe 800 crates to know it's a bug...... You knew it was a bug after the first one and the other 799 were because you're an asshole
the other 799 were because you sell gold..
Ok fair enough 
People have been banned for doing a lot less
@foggy zealot bro... Not a good look
idk what that means
Actually implementing the gold tracking from cradle to grave like has been discussed does need to get spun up soon.
Idc about more content, keep improving the foundation of the game.
Gold tracking, hopefully, severely reduces RMTing. It should be a high priority item imo
Lady, I dont talk about your wife, why you so obsessed with me ?
Tell your man to stop posting videos of you then. Damn idk what's wrong with you.
Yall talk so much shit and do so much greifing but can't handle any heat. Not surprising but kinda sad.
goose you wish that was you, that lady looks like she's having the best time doing whatever the hell she's doing.
If you want to PvP go play league of legends this is not the game for you
Really weird how much research you 2 are doing on me though. Ya'll aren't very good though, haven't even gotten to the interesting bits to vaguely threaten to dox me with yet.
Crafters/Gatherers should be able to do things in full safety and peace, pvpers belong in the gulag
Perhaps for the siege tonight the defenders could just give us the city. Pvp is outlawed in the cities. Can't have that.
You talked about your wife in global. You are being weird and talking about me a lot. Obsessed
Don't worry honey, no one obsessed with you. Not even your husband.
Siege but we show up with gifts like its Christmas and build up the town
Strange you keep yapping about me. Your behavior speaks otherwise
people make it weirdly personal in here
Hey i just told him not to post unflattering videos of you at Walmart. Sheesh, you try to help people out...
What is this channel
where the freaks type, welcome
Wolf person attempts to find a new pack. It's a national geographic documentary.
@foggy zealot Iknow you're jelly but using the supreme leaders good name for your plundering tour is a big nono
what are you talking about and why did that take you 14 minutes to type
Careful, if you call him out too much he puts you on ignore and has his wife yell at you.
You kill me for my materials you deserve everything bad coming for you
Bam this is low effort even for you 
wait you have pyongyang pumpers? LOL we think that shit is funny i didnt know that was a real person with that guild
shits perfect
Idk what’s going on here but I wholeheartedly stand behind this message
PvPers need to be exiled from playing with regular people, they live in basements and have no job
I thought it was only if you flagged (just started)
I wish I was unemployed........ Does that count?
the original
there are multiple ways for there to be pvp in this game,
guild wars, node wars, and lawless zones do not require anything of you. so beware or what guild you join, node you become a citizen of, or where you farm. because it could lead to pvp you might not want.
caravans and similar events will also allow people to fight you without flagging. but you have to opt into these events, its not like a normal event in the world.
flagging still exists and is a good way to opt out of most pvp atm, but it also doesnt mean people wont corrupt on you to take stuff from you. so make sure to be aware of your surroundings, and try to have a buddy with you, this is a MMO after all.
there are also big events like seiges that are super fun, but require some work to get started and you have to be accepted into the team, seats are limited(100v100 cap atm).
remember just because you opt out of pvp, doesnt mean the person attacking you also opted out. they just have to deal with the corruption, you arent immune to other people attacks.
So tims just using borrowed material, aka, hes a follower.... writing this down 

siege in a few.
Gulag ^
ggs
The entire defense side got ported underwater at the start, basically once the first gate fell
who
asked
Mira is ass, thats the feedback from this raid, shit was worse than anvils performance wise.
why are you wrong
legit
didnt stop you from being completely unable to push us off the capture point and trickling in 1 by 1 to get slaughtered did you muppets even have a shot caller?
Why we tryna ego in an alpha
Sieges still need work, testing ,..they should drop the gold requirements so we can have them more often
People are drowning in gold, we could have one every second day of people felt like it.
Idk why devs even accept that region to play the game. Like make them another server and dont let play with others.
I was playing d4/poe and 99% of dupes/abuses/exploits was from them.
I feel like many people here need a proper LEADER to follow. Feel free to DM me, and I will offer an inspirational image of a famous leader. For additional inspiration I can also include an inspriational quote.
Wow man very funny ty for your input
would you like a humble yet inspirational leader picture?
@weak robin please enlighten TANKO or WHATEVER TF HIS NAME IS NOW on the inspirational leader you've witnessed
Stevens a smart cookie
i guess considering cookies don't have brains, that is a low bar
They can’t handle grays and wisdom.
It’s a saying, like the bees knees.
also a saying: Multi-Level-Marketing.
inspires confidence worldwide
well it isn't like a pyramid-scheme-exploiter is running things... we all have lots of positive vibes and hope for the future
I supposed all charisma no substance does too, considering some of the GMs I’ve seen over the years.
i had hope, and positivity, and confidence... 6 years ago...
Lol unless you wanna cop a ban you'd best chill, just letting u know
In fact, probably should just delete that tbh
Intrepid Studios is our last hope against corporate quarterly revenue spikes... Intrepid is our last hope as gamers for a game by MMORPG players tbh... so I and many others are placing all the faith we have left in them
that does not mean they are immune to accountability
the age of information is wild... it is almost as if things you do matter
Bro turn off discord and go chill out lmao
Understanding supply chain and economics is a good reason why I don’t mald over Stevens real time ventures.
ok i'll chill now
why do I care about new world steam charts, I never played it, dead game
Dammit Kaisustrin, don't calm him down. We need a crashout to bring Steven out of the shadows. He has been silent all month letting his hammer recharge, he should be ready to start swinging again. https://tenor.com/bbjfc.gif
you literally just quoted future people
@robust wedge drop the hammer dude, you've been challenged apparently
You're literally crashing out, last reminder, go chill out, I gotta go to work now so gl in your future ventures otherwise
in this new NA era of oligarchy and silencing i'm honestly curious what happens when someone says something evenly slightly conflicting here
the fact there are only 3 of us engaging isn't very optimistic ngl
Oh, I am just in here bored while I wait for a download to finish. Don't read to much into it. This is normally the server dead time.
@robust wedge wake up dude... people(me) throwing slight shade, and other people want me hammered... oh god the drama...
Hope, Cope, Doom, and Gloom are for mentally and emotionally undisciplined and/or ill people.
All good things require sacrifice. Just ask the Mayans.
Accountability is a funny word
So if they ban you, does that mean you lack account ability?
#profgampo #rap #rapper #hiphop #halloween
isn't AGS closing ?
This is your reminder that there are no Tulnar.
deadge chat
pvpers are killing this game

Deadge game
but there wont be a reset for harbingers
humbly request you dont waste water for videos :)
they dont use seawater, they dont use trash water, these vids take away fresh water :(
https://tenor.com/view/happy-november-gif-7610548765239023558
cant wait to see all my friends in fresh later this month
I'm already in phase 4 of Ashes, log on
Global needs more of this.
Grow the beard, shave your head. Nothing wrong with being bald and wise.
@foggy zealot heard you finally quit
Who the fuck is still buying gold and items off the chinese when everyone knows fresh is coming
Seriously who are the ppl keeping them in buisness.. shameless behavior
gotta be this guy
Fresh? Nice joke you idiot. You only want fresh coz u can exploit even more to only get punished once again.
Just wana ask a random question:
Where is Steven's PR parade of him banning all the crate dupers? Kinda crazy that they're letting them go loose and not shoutcasting the bans about them huh?
It's kinda like Steven caved in to public pressure for a specifically targeted ban to not have the word " Favouritism " thrown his way huh
Especially given last livestream we were told we would see some transparency shown towards bans, such as listing what people got banned for and how many, but it's been pretty quiet
Lately the livestreams just feel super disconnected from whatever Intrepid is actually doing. We hear "updates on Tuesdays going forwards" and get no updates on any Tuesdays. And then we hear bans will be transparent, but a huge dupe goes on for weeks with no actions announced
I mean its really a fucked up decision. You need exploiters to find exploits, bugs that u missed and banning them this early would do more harm maybe? Its best to IP ban them on Mid or Late betas so they would help develop but never enjoy finished product.
Sad, I will go back to blocking you so you don’t feel like you need to send me these anymore 💔
Avoiding seeing random gifs and youtube vid links every message is enough reason for me to block 😂
It saddens me to say this but i think you are right. I also think that last month was the hardest month considering pressure from testers, the game is at the most broken state and they have to make a decision to fresh start and market or not. Like its hell. You'd get damage whatever u decide aswell. So im patiently waiting atm to see how will they solve this crisis that they are in 😂
i would be suprised if harbringer is ready in 2 weeks
I think they are under less pressure at the moment than say a month ago, a lot of people are more comfortable taking breaks when a lot of stuff is broken for Intrepid to fix. They just have a lot of work ahead of them so there isn't much reason to test stuff when we know there's a ton of stuff for them to work on.
I think they clearly have their eyes set on a new fresh start/server wipe date and they are very confident in Harbringers being a benchmark update
i just hope we test harbringer before wipe
Hard agree
Test, fix the bugs that will come alongside it, polish it a bit, wipe in January
Work on skill trees/augments/story lines for next 3 months
there will 100% be some janky shit with the proposed gathering/crates for corruption zones
I mean yeah, that's why we're here 🙂 I fully expect bugs in an alpha environment so I want to help them get fixed and have my say on balancing the game
it would also be nice to not have 2months of gathering wasted for nothing, at least let us use the gear on somehting, test the new stuff. wipe and we are chilling in piss
I prefer march - april with all class skill trees rework. Level cap increase to 30 atleast with 2nd cleric and tank archetype. Would be perfect for marketing.
I would normally agree but dupe makes for unfair testing environment
That seems like some p2 hopeium
Level cap increase is practically a soft wipe though, we'll probably be unlocking whole new tiers of gear.
I also expect when the level cap increases we'll see the stats on all the gear change, I truly believe what we're testing now power/mitigation wise is meant to be the endgame numbers so they'll tweak the stats on all the items to be lower and make the new level 39 items basically equivalent to level 29 gear sets.
I also think incrimental increases just complicates the testing environment and we should just get the max level increase/wipe all at once instead of slowly increasing it and making everything gear wise weird
It is ngl but they must nail it on 1st marketing wave. The truth is Ashes has a bad reputation on the outside and it will only get worse if they cant nail it before marketing...
I don't really care about bad reputations, as long as the game is good people will come to it through word of mouth
FF14 and OSRS had bad reputations to start but grew into top 3 MMOs
power/mit balancing feels okay at 300+ 40%. rng procs really fucks with small scale though feels unfair/unrewarding
How many years it took ppl to return to No man's Sky? Rep matters unfortunately...
You responded to me homie ! Let’s keep it a buck !
i think heal power nerfs are lame, and or nerf wound
Is that an MMO
I think live service MMOs can outgrow an initial bad reception, a ton of people gave New World a ton of extra tries but the devs kept messing up.
You are not wrong but still it is a risky move due to Ashes is grindy therefore you cant give as many chances New World had. Because you literally need to tons of more effort to actually see if its worth it or not
There's enough people that will come back to this game on launch because they bought packs, I'm not too worried about player count. It'll have a ton of interest on launch, a ton of players will quit because it isn't the game for them, people will claim the game is dead or dying, and then if it's a good MMO they'll slowly increase the playerbase over time through good content. That's what the good MMOs do.
i wonder if harbring corruption zones will play like an extraction game with gatherables/crates
rogues everywhere lol
from what I understand yeah you'll get corrupted resources, refine them at certain key locations, and then have to escape the zone with those resources
There will be gatherables native to corrupted zones, most valuable crates also would be in corruption zones aswellm
truuuuu i did unblock for a bit because i felt bad but its for the best i am getting a lot more comfortable blocking peeps in here lmfao
surprised my gif spam didnt put me on urs yet 🤣 guess i dont post random bs
I've never blocked anyone in any community discord before this one. Truly the most interesting game discord I've been in
I mean active doxxers they just let stroll right back into this discord.
get out of here eu !
Try and claim my name on EU and NA
A negative rep for an alpha doesn't really matter that much, because all it does is just convince the naysayers that they're right. Now, if all this shit and trouble is gone through, and the beta is fire? It'll of been worth it.
EU > NA change my mind....
I hope so.
Negative rep doesn't matter, actively letting the person who doxxed Liniker yet actively blocking the others who doxxed those doxxers is nothing short of hypocritical
Is this another one of those, "this person's a doxxer because they found easily accessible information the person posted on the internet" or
I think everyone should be able to play
What does that have to do with anything
Clear favoritism to shifty irl actions in a small community that's already dwindling yet promoting a marketing push. OK. This has nothing to do with anything.
Clearly you never played AA and having your own publicly available information posted doesn't mean you can't play a vidya game
Sure, people shouldn't do that, but shit happens, its the internet. You also shouldn't have your Facebook linked to your Discord account
Rules for thee, not for me.
Okay stay mad I guess
Not mad just disappointed
I'm sure your continuing of voicing your disappointment will assuredly change Intrepid's mind, believe in yourself
Closed mouths don't get fed
I too can share random tidbits of possibly related wisdom
And im not disappointed in intrepid, im disappointed at people using irl means to deprive themselves of in game competition. That's where you put on the clown mask
Its anything to win for some people. Of course, that doesn't make it right, but that doesn't change what is, and its on you to protect yourself rather then hoping everyone else around you holds themselves to the same standards.
I locked down my irl details I had posted online years and years ago because I learned that lesson the hard way too
Do you defend the use of irl photos posted actively in this discord disregarding community guidelines? We both know it happened
Have I defended it? No. Has Intrepid done anything about it? No. Therefore there's no point in continuing to bring it up either. It happened. The people it happened too should take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again
Thank you for these screenshots regarding the communities approach to handling this issue and the lack of moderation happening within this "Official" server.
Enjoy the SS' I guess lol
If your intent was to bait specific responses out of me in the first place, that's pretty weird too, but hey live your life
It wasnt
Damn someone’s butthurt
I need more to read for entertainment purposes . Please continue
I've got a real kicker for ya! There's more devs than customers actively playtesting the game in its current state, the degradation of player counts in guilds has me chuckling at the internal mistakes of ego ridden game developers who think that echo chambers are viable forms of feedback and any criticism is seen as invalid.
Hey I am here waiting for any proof . ty sirs
ngl idk whats goin on and cba, its monday.
ITS BLOODY HOT IIN AUSTRALIA MY GAWD
does anyone play anymore?
nah nobody here plays ashes, this is new world discord
New World finally feels populated after their 27th merge.
Went back for 5 mins, saw they nerfed Serenity, immediately uninstalled.
i can assure you that more than 0 people are playing at all times 
I haven’t played it in years 8) their buff/nerf cycle is based off the communities perceptual parity. Too many dolts with no understanding of cognitive science and cognitive literacy.
i too like to use big words because it makes me sound photosynthesis
Obiously you dont understand the great science of build crafting
Save yourselves the frustration and just play Guild Wars 2 at this point. Ashes may be officially GGs sadly
Game that lacks content in all departments? no. lol
How hot is bloody hot ?
Fashion wars 2 is an amazing game specially for people who have never played it
guild wars 2 is the worst of the big 4 MMOs out
What are the other big 3 that are better ?
Final Fantasy, BDO, WoW
Gw2 has no depth in pvp, pve due being horizontal progression it fails to release meaningful content
Only for people who don't count RuneScape as an mmo
if we add those gw2 doesnt come on top 5.
Either way, depends on which metrics we define successful mmorpgs, do we consider financial success? Or player retention and numbers ?
you cannot be financially successful without player retention/numbers.
I wouldn't even rank gw2 in the top 30 of mmos
the same thing that makes it good its what its used an excuse for lack of depth which is the horizontal progression.
I'm not even trolling when I say I'd rank Dragon Quest 10 higher than GW2 on the top mmos list
am not trolling either but for sure its on the top 30 mmorpgs but top 10? nah
All im saying is it sure as hell beats hitting rocks and trees all day just to run scrims against your own guild as the only PvP content in game.
Idk I like the game it’s unique and has brought a lot of insight to the genre , like most successful mmorpgs , they are all needed to keep the genre alive
yea because running around gathering berries and etc for ascended gear is way better...
Guild Wars 2 feels like it tried to copy Tera but made it really bad after getting drunk on stupid juice
Sounds like ashes !
I’d also argue it has better combat than ashes , more of a tab hybrid than full tab game
action combat is great but thats it.
calling it action combat is a stretch. it has the same sort of combat that Wizardry Online has
Fair so the consensus is that some people don’t like it and feels it lacking , and some people do, enough people that it’s survived this long without real content !
Now you lost me.
I’m about to PvP some aram Mayhems ! Aram with some augments ! Then jump into path of exile two , called in sick today ! lol
it's just tab target with enough paint to confuse idiots into thinking it's real action combat
Tbf I said tab hybrid , not full action combat like BDO
Hot take : all the top MMOs still are just clones and will
Never be real tops when you consider DnD And pathfinder !
It was either try GW2 or play TnL again. And there was no chance I go back to that god forsaken game
how the fuck are your MMO options limited to only 2 with the current market?
100000% gw2 is way better than a bad mobile port for pc
Bro you should totally check out once human, solid UE5 free to play !
I think I tried it and enjoyed it, but didn’t have any one else to play with.
anyway am just here to say, gw2 doesnt break top 10 mmorpgs in any measurement or scale you try to put besides "fashion".
Been playing Redsec, the battlefield BR. Feels good to get the competitive juices flowing again
It was a joke I don’t play gw2 right now anyways, it’s just fashion wars at this point
If people are saying it's worse than lost ark then I'm not sure what we're doing here.
lost "wallet" ark? you gotta swipe and play at least 8 alts to keep your main up to date?
Yea no way it’s worse than lost ark, you can literally immerse yourself into the main season stuff , skyscale, mount farming , jumping puzzle , gliding maps, world bosses and challenging instanced content ,
Anyway am gonna go eat.
I was actually having a lot of fun on new world until AGS nuked the player count.
Alright Mara I’ve heard some takes of yours but that might take the cake. GW2 combat is some hot ass compared to Ashes combat
The RvR itself is of the same trash that NW/TNL was where it’s just glob vs glob fighting in a 5 meter box. And the smaller scale PvP in it (while better than its RvR imo) is still light years worse than Ashes small scale.
What was my take on gw2 combat ?
You mean the argument I made about it being tab hybrid , that’s what it is, and that ashes is full tab, so by default wouldn’t ashes have a lower skill ceiling compared to abilities that have directional targeting ?
Let’s keep it a buck , we don’t have to agree whether it’s good or bad , that’s subjective opinions , but I enjoyed it when I played it and I think it’s a solid free to play experience if you haven’t tried it !
Meh I focused more on the “better than ashes” combat part than the hybrid part tbh. I think full action is normally worse gameplay wise personally lol. If anything Ashe’s has going for it’s the combat imo 
Well I just gave you the context to my statement , if you think fully tab is hard by any mechanical metric vs directional targeting , not sure how
Like how often do you miss your attacks when holding auto attack lol or pressing 1-2-3-4 etc ?
And let me guess you play bard or ranger or mage , something ranged , which would also indicate a few other skill gap issues
Isn’t everything ranged since melee is so shit in this game
hence ranged weapons being out 100% of the time for every good player
And yeah I’m sure I’m one of the people with skill gap issues 
Hm.
i have tried to be into gw2 so much, but it just never sticks
Weird excuse but that’s ok, still subjective , and anyone who has to cheat or affiliate with people who cheat for an advantage based off thier cheating def have skill gap issues
Now go ahead and tell me I’m wrong and how you never cheated or people you attach yourself to also don’t cheat
Thats a confused bird
That is.... something I cant unsee. 
How dare you lady thats BAIT from Dragon Prince.
The fudge is that.
Imma assume it’s an anime
The Dragon Prince, known as The Dragon Prince: Mystery of Aaravos from the fourth season onward, is an animated fantasy television series created by Aaron Ehasz and Justin Richmond for Netflix. Produced by Wonderstorm and animated by Bardel Entertainment, the first season premiered on September 14, 2018. The second season premiered on February 1...
Americanized anime?
Ah shit not an anime perse
yeah its def not an anime, its just on netflix.
Well hmm it’s Miyazaki style so American japanime
Plus no one ever gives credit to ninja scroll and the old badass japanimes anymore
apparently its made in a computer but its influenced by the older ones
Yea you can tell the software took a lot of inspiration art style from Miyazaki , ninja scroll is more traditional Japan style animation
we are debating about gameplay and you resort to belittling me and my guild? Why you acting schizo 
Like what in tf did I even say could trigger your fight or flight system when we were just talking about tab vs action combat and it became “you cheat, melee w key more skill than ranged, zug zug” 
And yeah I don’t see an excuse. It’s a fact melee in this game sucks and plays like shit along with having your ranged weapon out is better 99% of the time than running around trying to melee people. But now go ahead, tell me I’m wrong and how you’re so much more skillful than myself or other good players on this game when we’ve all seen your gameplay 
Interesting , lots to digest , How did I belittle you in arena chat when you came at me about my “takes” on gw2 combat , given the history of everything , I’m not attacking you again this victim mentality ? Idk what gameplay you’re trying to say “we” all seen but in regards to ashes yall ain’t anything for me to worry about in fact I can point to multiple occasions I nuked yall lol
Coot giving me great axe / hatchet Zugzug flashbacks
_>
These guys over here pfffft
Not sure what any of this has to do with cognition.
I don’t know why youd lump Bard with Ranger and Mage tho
I said of all your takes this one took the cake cause Ashe’s combat is widely regarded as their best aspect
if that’s a severe enough “attack” on you to claim victim you gotta mirror 🪞 back my guild tag then that just proves I struck a nerve simply stating I disliked pure action combat
Also only thing you nuked was winning a 30vs 300 at forge during a caravan raid. We also tipped our hats to you guys for finally organizing the realm against us 
Bard requires more in terms of cognitive processes. It’s #1 till Summoner drops.
Fair enough
why do u keep arguing with these people man
Boredom
That's the most true statement I have seen on this discord server ever.
Bruh , you laughed at your own comment you said action combat is worse than tab lol “ so even you know that does not sound right coming from a competitive mmo standpoint
It’s still a clout chase based discord lobby pvx game
Yeah cause I think action combat plays like shit. Literally the only good aspect is the stamina/dodging imo. Everything else is better tab imo 
This phase had like 1% of the pvp of any other phase 😭
I’m sorry I called polar cheaters coot lol do you forgive me so we can debate mmo combat
Im really hoping we get some attention to that in the update. its real dull right now
Many of us spent a lot of time in the 3 month leadup to phase 3 telling everyone they were gutting pvp and it would result in a boring game.
The same people that said we just wanted to grief people aren't playing their pve haven game
But as someone who’s played them all, tab games don’t require the skill of a reticle , it’s mastering a rotation or reflex button mashing , kiting and tabbing targets ! You don’t miss !
Don’t you fucking summon him.
I mean irdc I just hate when good topics are discussed and someone instantly mentions my guild
I thoroughly enjoy hearing other peeps opinions on MMOs (cause none of my IRLs like them) and as someone prob in the younger side of the community I haven’t touched prob half the MMOs ppl yap about
Every MMO development, people argue for removal of pvp, and then they act all surprised when the game is boring and dies
And ppl will mention some niche system in an MMO that might’ve had 500 players but damn does some of the systems sound good
Tab and Action have different requirements.
PVE has a means to end. Once its done its done. Without pvp it will never survive unless your WoW at this point
I think Kiting is a top skill to have in an MMO imo. I’m very sad with how shit Ranger was with kiting when I first played. If any class should have kiting ability it should be them 
Why not , are you someone who plays only what their online friends play ? You need to expand your experience to include more games to have valid discussion points , no offense but there’s nothing to debate
This game isn't built to have crazy pve. It's built to have crazy pvp happening while you're trying to pve resulting in a lot of dynamic open world gameplay.
This
No kiting dragons to Orgrimmar for you!
I’ll rarely touch a game that I don’t have people to play with tbh. Ashes is one of the first I ever actually played and I didn’t know a single person
if they go in the direction of catering to pve its DOA
Like they've been doing for the past 6 months? 😂
Even if I just have one person to play with I’ll try any game tho. I just grow bored if I can’t yap about said games normally in voice with someone
I’m partially brainrotted cause I cba playing any single player games though. That shit is so boring to me. I need some sense of competition even if it’s the smallest amount
No idea why they wanna cater to pvp bitching about a game that was built in insperation from AA and L2
War charges, removing rewards from settlement/guild wars, no consequences for sieges, crates removing need for caravans, no cc to start fights in open world over resources, I could go on and on...
yeah alot of bad changes.
You really want dats1 in here
The one "pvp update" we've gotten is the POI pvp zones that spawn in the least populated areas of the map on purpose
Yea see , this is why I say what I say about the combat, I like trinity games and is why I’m going to play ashes , but the combat is literally clone of every tab mmorpg , you cycle target and push buttons , arrows fly through trees and rocks, you can shoot running backwards no add a reticle and see how the PvP changes
The one time we kited FB to Joeva in P2 was so cinema
bros just constantly flame breathing the town
Jundark should be all PVP
I’m proud of y’all I can’t tell you how many times in any game I bring a boss mob to a city, that will never not be funny.
lol
Corruption zones should hopefully fix this but obviously we need to test it and make sure they aren't baiting us like they did with lawless POIs.
They need to really be big and rotate the right way.. or its just gonna be a giant bust
Try entering the imperial city in tattooine as republic , queuing warzones so you spawn in exhaustion zone just to die and re Que and do another WZ until you’re inside the imperial city nuking every player that spawns in lol
The safe space shit they got going on now mind as well not even be in the game
It's all a carefully curated plan to test the game with no pvp and teach this community that it's terrible like this and needs the pvp
Make the suffering stop
Or it’s to cause you male pattern baldness.
Raiding all 4 horde cities with 3 40man raid groups in 2010 and one shotting that shit !
If you want PVE safe game play.. play wow. If you want story go play FF
Swtor story’s are 1000% better than FF
You guys hear that? That’s the sound of @inland crater going bald and growing greys.
Now that was some good times.
I am safe for now, but father time comes for us all
im already bald
We used to camp that underground tram thing and just wreck every single player , resto shaman and rogue duo lol
Greg and I card carrying members of the Verran Bald and Bearded Society.
Bruh you don’t remember my beard from comms ! It was thicc af
You can run... but you cant hide so. I just stopped running all together
Brains pushing the hair out ! Sign of intelligence lol
Baldness high IQ, HIGH T
Skinny
You had hair tho
Yea it’s odd but if he’s healthy good for him
Sometimes
Probably got told to stop with the TRT because no amount of TRT is gonna stop your heart from aging and straining
Only thing that slows it down is venom resistance via snakes. Makes your body immune and your alleles restore.
Hmmm , that’s interesting , honestly I think steroids like that are prolly one of the only illegal street drugs I haven’t tried , and the newer ones like nyls “ but good for him if he got off that shit
I think Intrepids tab target system is MMO #1 for worst targeting logic to the point I almost never tab between targets now LMAO
At least wows I can almost brute force to the point it goes to the target I want 9/10 times. Ashes is literally targetting mofos behind you or out of range 
have you played ascension bronzebeard? that was the worst tab targeting prio I've ever seen
Okay I stand corrected. It’s #1 for a real game studio, not Dutch’s vodka ran private server
but yeah ascensions tab targetting and no spell queing is ABYSMAL
Almost as bad as Battlefields netcode in their new BR
haven't played that. last fps I played on a regular basis was Red Orchestra 2. Shout out to the boomers
It’s not bad outside their netcode shitting the bed sometimes. Better than COD/Fortnite, not as good as OG PUBG/Apex to me at least
Loadout weapons will never make sense to me. Having to go zero to hero in PUBG dodging all the VPNing Chinese was my Vietnam 
taiwan numba wan
Mara’s best take we agreed on though was Division 1’s survival mode is the best pseudo BR/extraction game ever 
Has any action MMO ever had a timed block/parry/riposte window for melee cause I’ve always enjoy that shit in other games (more fighting type games like Chiv/Mord/For Honor)
Yes , a lot of games have that actually
Black desert , Tera, eso, and gw2 lol all have a block ability feature
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TnL iirc is considered hybrid tab/action mmo and has a perfect block system, but its the only one I can think of that does that
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Yeah more leaning into the riposte/parry active thing but block would also be sick in Ashe’s if it didn’t have insane stamina drain. Almost zero reason to ever block atm instead of I framing with dodge unless rooted 
Or imagine if tanks had to actually reflect on a good timer instead of just throwing up the shield and getting a trip off an auto. Having to time the reflect on a spell but also buffing reflects damage back would be way more interesting imo (I’m not a tank tho so idk how much that fucks or buffs them)
cleric > bard
Bard still requires more in terms of cognitive processes but Cleric is more cognitively dense.
i think the only argument is for the most efficient of both or the average...the average cleric is pretty braindead honestly but the most efficient requires the most of any class fs
Excluding all the direct hits to pvp another big hit was also, adding crates + limiting the settlement growth. people are way less inclined to run caravans now because the options are so bad. without other nodes hitting tier 3 there are like so few caravan hand ins it is miserable for van runners to even try.
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lawless pois are so infuriating, i cannot believe they ignored the actual significant pois, it is so backwards
Imagine how different the phase could have been if sb/carph/forge went lawless once every 6hrs,
would have been so insane
they wouldnt have had the polar top floor carph event outrage as bad because it would have created content, instead we had people discord pvping the devs HAHAHAHAHA
Is that TnL?
Cuz oof.
lol idk
The game is being advertised as a PvX game. The current flagging system isn't very PvX...it's more of a request to engage in PvP which is so lame. At least with the rotation lawless zones (granted they're in the wrong spots for any meaningful content) PvX is actually in the game. Too many PvE players that use the corruption system to their advantage because they don't want real PvX to happen.
WRONG, i and many others would log in just for the pvp. Now imagine if the luck buff incetivised grinding on top of that
i would prefer cc on non combatants back (because this is very pvx) but instead we have lawless zones
I bet it was in the intention of people running crates on foot and not being messed with, but then again crates could of solved that issue itself and made the person immune to CC and the system could of stayed the way it was
yeah crates ruined so many aspects of the game, caravans are dead. and tension while pveing is dead because no cc on noncombatants
I still don't understand how such a good easy idea (roaming lawless zones) got wasted and messed up so badly with poor planning. Why bother putting them in at all if they just rotate around level 10-15 zones?
The only one that makes sense is gravepeak
youre right the flagging changes they made are somehow less intuitive than before
they killed gravepeak, there is no item worth going there for anymore except maybe ill omens recipe + boss mat. (this is the trend with every poi that doesnt drop emblems atm tho, still annoyed what they did to the 3moon hat (it was pure steeze)
fair honestly, pvpers are just after crumbs at this point. it probably is a bad change like you say, BUT IM HUNGRY
Does Aibbon realize he is referring to himself? 😭
I remember before the phase started and people were talking about getting halc to t4 to check out if it changed but halc got locked to t2 
This game is made off the bones of Archeage and lineage 2.. it’s gonna have a somewhat hardcore PvP aspect to it
tHE Thing is though, pvpers in this game engage with all aspects of the game, gathering/crafting/pve because it how u stay competitive. i dont see the pve minded people engage even half as heavily as those who enjoy pvp
Without a real focus on PvP this game is DOA
There is a giant PvP focused event about to launch in 2 weeks.....well scheduled to launch in 2 weeks
Not an event. It needs to be ingrained in most of the core systems
does limiting pvp to one event, one zone, really encapture pvx though?
Right now the game is a crafting simulation with weird forced PvP interactions and very little incentive to do anything but. It’s not good
No but there are others and even more coming. Even the new fishing will be pvx as it's all lawless and that comes with boat changes as well. Naval combat is making a comeback 
They just need to add node destruction, guild wars and actual pvp areas like jundark and deserts
potentially yeah, but noone asked for pvp lawless rotating zones it was a response to how much players liked jundark lawless. it was not really what the community was asking for. i wouldnt credit the feedback of pvpers to the change but rather a misunderstadning of what was fun about jundark
That will be enough to keep a pvp loop going for a while, if they rely too much on expansions and events for giving out pvp, it will follow the same fate as new world after every expansion
yeah agree, we are saying very similar things then
Pvp players play for pride, to gain and lose things and be the best. Just make a loop where u gain and lose and thats all it needs to be. Currently there is nothing like that
yes im excited for fishing too, unfortunately water pvp is rancid. half the spells dont work, it butchers most classes. and MY BOOK DOESNT WORK UNDER WATER
PvPers killed this game
Still feels like when Amazon decided to make pvp flaggable. Was the worst decision they ever made. In a long line of worst evers.
Make the immediate starting areas and so e home fronts pve, or put all the valuable resources in a frontier zone with 100% pop. Its a shit show anyway ypu cut it cause of all the qq. The flagging, corruption lawless will in the end make or break this game on release.
Crafters and Gatherers need to do everything in safety with no risk unless they accept to do it so.
CONSENT TO PVP IN MY PVX SANDBOX GAME
They needed to do a 3/4 day split instead of 7
Sorry, on a phone. Bad spelling and grammar. But daoc did it best. Archage probably even better.
It worked for eve. Scarcity was great.
ASMON CHAN
you mean when people played the alpha or beta or whatever it was and majority of people hated the PvP just like how ashes will go , yeah if they had content and no bugs when they launched the game would of thrived , it didnt "die" cuz they made it so pvp isnt forced upon you all the time which most people hate
LF Nodes 3
how is it meant to work with t4 settlements, is node death post sieges meant to kill buildings or to delevel it aswell
neither. All successful node sieges destroy them completely and turn them back to level 0 wilderness
Hope and cope is like a rope-a-dope. Doom and gloom sounds like you go boom.
They were extremely transparent with their move to UE5 and had numerous monthly streams covering it. Unfortunately it did set back their progress massively
For sure. I'd assume they didn't fully grasp what they were in for in the transition. But that's arguably untrue to a degree.
They lost some good staff in the transition and that signals at least some in the studio were well aware of how much of a reset button was being pushed.
I'd say the restart with the transition to UE5 was more of an opportunity to them than a necessity. They saw the relative success and hype of A1 and an opportunity to make things higher quality with UE5 and went for it. A port from UE4 to UE5 doesn't necessarily mean starting from scratch, if they wanted they could've kept a lot from before
UE5 better for longevity
We had castle sieges in A1 on ue4 ;-;
Not saying this is accurate but it felt like communication was just a lot better in general beforehand. We’re in this weird limbo and kinda in the dark it feels like now. Don’t know where we are going and why..
2 steps forward, 5 back. For no reason that’s explained just.. here and we’ll cya on the next livestream, to talk about what’s coming in 3 months lol
The more communication = more demands/told ya so moments.
Yeah but they need to get over that. A few loud yappers should not hinder your communication to your base. Thats a lame excuse
imo communication right now is good, there is radio silent when something big is coming up, the "what you guys think about a fresh server" shit was what killed for me.
You think communication is good right now? Are we playing the same test
Yes, For me personally is good I dont need this back n forth between company = / = consumer like you guys do.
But back and forth is communication lol
The more they give or the more they try to satiate people need for information worse the outcome gets.
Why run a live 24/7 test if you don’t wanna deal with your base for weeks into months at a time while nothing works properly
Because they want data.
Yeah? I wonder how it’s working out for them lol
Am still inclined for closing open development and let it cook for a year...
You can’t treat live tests the way they have so far in phase 3 and have longevity for any real solid data. It’s beyond crazy for people to have faith with that attitude
And the results speak for themselves. Look at the servers
Server state is a domino effect of shit every 2 weeks.
There lack of communication along with urgency to attend to there live test is what it is
My investment doesn't come talking in discord or watching every move they make, we aren't getting paid to give deep analyses or how things should be done, see the project progress and how it leads and handles the obstacles ahead.
Yeah but that’s not what we’re talking about really lol
It what it always leads to this kind of conversation really, am going back to the game.
To be honest, bam is right. The minimal communication is great because it means they're crunching time to get things done. I just hope the devs are leaving enough time for themselves and family. Especially leading up to Christmas
it has become abundantly clear that they have no idea which direction to head in
Questing & storyline would have more folx logging in, though short term as content runs out. PVP is always there in whatever state the game is, profs/econ have a long ways to go. The focus on backend makes sense, leaving those still churning the hours ingame to have faith that it'll be the game we've been anticipating all these years.
@rough silo PvP'rs create their own content, within the framework of the game. I'd say that they're keeping it alive.
yea god damn casuals crying for the wrong fixes. and this is what happens.
I get casuals prob make up 95% of the player base, but don't build the game around them. zzzzz
If anything I want casuals. They took out the New player Experience learning curve which was pvp after level 5 even amongst the low level PoI's. It allowed for organic growth of knowledge from a pvp and pve perspective all the way to level 25. Less travel time from lions hold or wherever to non raid PoI's, organic growth and understanding of pve enemies and pvp scenarios, it also lead to understanding the environments that other classes might thrive in early on.
By catering to crybabies who want free pve, they've made the game boring in the "pvx" design. Now some people are level 25 without having to pvp at all.
I’d say you can play the whole game while avoiding PvP if you want to currently. You would miss out on caravans and like 6 islands in the tropics that have no special resources on them. Basically no economic loss by avoiding it. If anything it’s more efficient to not PvP ever
I actually read this a few times, and I agree. This is a great point. Friction, early on, was the funnest part of levelling in P1 and P2 AND P2.5 for a long while. This time? barely even saw flagged people.
Organic, homegrown pvp. Pepperidge Farm remembers
All Intrepid needs to do is bring back CC to non combatants, Poi Drop rates, and maybe Lawless until settlement development ( on fresh) and the community will return.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gbF-xKzCOM
Lunch at the Crockett hotel
That game is badass I love the turn based combo type combat
I think you showed up at the wrong spot. That is the Crockett hotel 
@pastel tusk Gonna tag my boy Mojo in this. If you want organic PvP, then you want good artisanship and logistics. I got a post on it if you want to see it.
Damn it good catch fucking discord always fucks up my text
@void scarab Rip Dunhold

What happened to the dwarfs!
no it's RIP Dunhold, discord got deleted
Dwarven holds rise and fall and rise again, whatever Elvin witch magic has befallen Dunhold we hope they rally against its touch.
That doesn’t mean rip lol
It does when Thoghli deletes the discord and tells somebody he's "Restructuring"
The game can fresh start a server, why not the GM of a guild ! I see no issue ! Sometimes you gotta fix shits that’s broke doesn’t mean it’s dead lol
So deleting a discord with hundreds of people in it doesn't mean the guild is dead? It's a literal purge
Nope not really , if the goal is to remove problems and that’s the easiest way to , idk just my two cents
If he starts a new discord he's starting completely from scratch. LMAO REMOVE PROBLEMS BY DELETING THE ENTIRE DISCORD AND EVERYBODY IN IT??? THAT'S CALLED NUKE EVERYTHING AND START FROM SCRATCH. DUNHOLD IS GONE IN EVERY WAY EXCEPT NAME
Yeah so anyway rip dunhold
Yall feel free to think whatever , everyone is entitled to speculate or inquire , you do you
@warped mural @quiet swift congrats on being the stronger dwarfs
I've dedicated 5 years of my life to Dunhold Mara. I was there since August 2020. It's gone
No need to congratulate Mithril Warhammers, we've existed for over three decades, we take no comfort in friends drama
Whoa dwarf drama 😁
Hmm , maybe , I don’t remember it like that , was it 5 years in discord playing ashes or 5 years playing something else
I'm Argem Mara
Ah the name is fucking me up
I get it, I literally put in 5 years of my life to the guild and I had to step away for a time to breath. It's just a testing phase, I don't need to play it 24/7
Well , I can confidently say idk about any of that , what I can spectate about is that it’s not dead, it’ll rise from the ashes !
