#na-arena-of-words

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pale grove
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it is a toss up on how they will see it - a lot of pvp things they're like "it's fine" most crafting/monetary things they've been "that's an exploit". and then there's the acadira. Hard to tell consistently what they will decide

wicked bone
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Or implement corruption reputation, the more white names u kill the more your account loses reputation ( all alts too) and then eventually u reach a threshold where u remain permanently corrupt or u reach a state where guards perma kill u in town blocking u out from those systems,

So many ways to increase the risk of corruption

rough silo
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Little timolope playing with gatherers and systems in ashes of creation.

foggy zealot
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i would love to be banned from towns because of my corruption reputation that would be fun

covert chasm
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hey i got to lvl 7 in this phase

polar veldt
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Training pug groups in SB on level 15s when your 25 and yapping encourages quitting too. Guess who did that to me? It’s fair ball it is what it is. No hate at all but

rough silo
wicked bone
covert chasm
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right clicking mobs in a cave for 100 hours is not the gameplay for me

obtuse nova
pastel tusk
polar veldt
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lol the point still remains

wicked bone
polar veldt
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Make a big report if people think this shit is not right and wait on intrepid. All people can do.

pale grove
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god i would love to be able to flag up and CC people off nodes again

pastel tusk
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Yup already submitted feedback and bug reports. Oh and I broke Corvus again

obtuse nova
# wicked bone Yup mentioned it just above what u said

i do think they should implement a archeage pirate like faction like if u have too much blight u basicly get kicked out of the nodes to the pirate island node and ur KOS to eveything on mainland and if u die u can only respawn back at the pirate island node.
you can have the mayor of the node be the one with the most blight 😛 honostly think we can have a rather solid game loop with a pirate faction/node

topaz void
foggy zealot
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@ STEVEEENENENENENENENENENENENEN

topaz void
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might as well unblock me if you love vaguely responding to my posts for the entire day ;)

foggy zealot
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loser mentality, they break so easy.

topaz void
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just like you knowingly break systems, report it, yet continue to do so for days after taunting other players on their materials they grinded for ShrugMage

covert chasm
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im just sad tmugsy blocked me, my clown reacts dont hit the same if they arent on his messages

polar veldt
main spire
polar veldt
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Be nice to have people come back

topaz void
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you are decking crafter guilds and forfeiting after stealing their mats I don't think you even believe it is pvp 💀

pastel tusk
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I know a 65 year old Chad in an rp guild that shows up to scrims

covert chasm
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hes 65 hes got nothin but time

polar veldt
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Im 70, what do you have against old people

topaz void
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dude freaked out with his guildies all showing up after realizing i pinged the only person that actually will do actions on bad actors like him I am loving this

pastel tusk
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Nothing, I'd love to be able to MMO with my gramps if he were still around

topaz void
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he was laughing at people saying cheeks is reported to cs but this he could not let go without doing 50 posts lol

covert chasm
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plenty, but none were mentioned in my post, so maybe put your victim card back next to your aarp card >:)

polar veldt
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Bro imagine playing with gramps

flat furnace
pastel tusk
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So to say all pvpers do is gank lower levels... no. I was protecting my gramps

flat furnace
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All boomers must be otters it is the only way abusiness_otter

polar veldt
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I’m not really 70. I just feel it

polar veldt
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Cry would also hunt me down so

bitter salmon
flat furnace
polar veldt
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About to be 39

covert chasm
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im trying to get my grandma to start gaming, cuz she is bored and lonely. only problem is i gave her a laptop a couple of weeks ago and she started tapping on the screen wondering where the keyboard (its between you and the screen abuela)

foggy zealot
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holy yall mfers old

polar veldt
foggy zealot
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26

earnest canopy
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tims like 12

flat furnace
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Ya I used to be try hard gamer but now I have other shit on the go and just don't have time. So while I may be a casual gamer dad now it wasn't always this way waa

polar veldt
covert chasm
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the ibuprofin phase

polar veldt
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Shit goes down like New worlds player count

pastel tusk
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For the love of God stretch, your back will thank you

polar veldt
covert chasm
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yeah i did manual labor most of my life until this job, so i am never going back to that life lol

polar veldt
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Trucking unloading my own rig

flat furnace
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Sitting at a desk all day isn't exactly good for your body either harrharr

pale grove
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adding this to my notes folder

pastel tusk
polar veldt
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Oh yeah. 4 knee, 3 ankle surgeries later

covert chasm
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i would rather sit at a desk in a comfy office at 68 degrees then ever be out in the heat doing manual labor again. or the cold. and because of the manual labor, i have 2 bad knees and a bad shoulder : (

pastel tusk
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Hey we're in the money baby. Can still game lol

polar veldt
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Amen

pale grove
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ah yes, the absolute meltdown over 1 powerpoint slide that everyone has been working on for 3 whole work days

polar veldt
pastel tusk
polar veldt
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Lmao

foggy zealot
flat furnace
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You have a plan that involves willingly moving to Florida?

pastel tusk
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Boy you ain't wild you mild

polar veldt
foggy zealot
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is bf6 supposed to be hard, why is every game i play full of dads?

polar veldt
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Reaction times go way down hill as you age. Also when you refuse to get glasses and you can’t see shit.. also a big factor

covert chasm
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gotta get the weakaura for your mouse cursor too or else you cant find it

polar veldt
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To be fair the game effects today are fucking insane sometimes

covert chasm
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i used to not have a problem with it on wow, but then shadowlands happened and everyone got lightshow on a 1 min cd

polar veldt
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Purple flash bangs and glow in the dark nightclub vibes

topaz void
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appears 0-0 when they abuse all the crafters they want before war score can count, immediately disband guild to reform new one and repeat

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in game characters that participate in the exploits are: Cheeks, sargaz, squeak, burnone, sloppytoppy, bong, Momir, and zarok

flat furnace
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The real question is, if I make a character named leeks will I get an invite?

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ablush_otter I'm sorry

scarlet pier
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Wait…so you just screenshot all the stuff that the man willingly posted themselves and expect people to???? What exactly?

rough silo
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Lemon must be feeling kinda lonely, rejected so hes here just trying to get reactions.

topaz void
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encouraging players to quit, even mentions them multiple times in discord to taunt them further after exploiting war systems to steal their materials. Shameful display and he posts it all himself as soon as his timeout is done ShrugMage

scarlet pier
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The only constant we have in Ashes is people being upset with Cheeks. Been 3.5 phases of it.

topaz void
scarlet pier
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That’s honestly the tamest taunting I’ve ever seen.

Shol doesn’t deserve Cheeks at this point. Y’all have gone soft.

topaz void
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yah bro is stupid for gloating even after posting he knows it is a bug that he is working around, other people have even posted the guild disbanding to halt wars to start up a new one ShrugMage I hope <@&519722995778977812> will be able to take a look

foggy zealot
earnest garden
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I'm sure pinging a CM constantly is gonna get their attention.

scarlet pier
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I mean it’s borderline harassment to badger someone in tells to give back hard earned materials.

rough silo
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Yes please ping steven, margaret the whole mod team.

topaz void
scarlet pier
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Honestly probably giving Cheeks a mount. Killing people in town and stealing their materials is Steven’s Vision come alive.

topaz void
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agreed on the 2nd part, but going around war cooldowns is blatant exploiting and dude is giddy about it

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im sure he will be more cautious about exploiting with guild disbands in the future after my posts, im glad i can help the current state of the game

flat furnace
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Wouldn't be the first time they gave someone a mount for that. Haze got a frog in p2 for a mistake that was made.

scarlet pier
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It is a pretty comical work around to get more war decs. Especially when the cooldown for war declarations has been bugged lately.

topaz void
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margaret even said today the CMs are here to help, i have no issue with pinging the people i know that are able to make decisions on something like this especially when actively encouraging players to quit the game is happening

lapis pike
topaz void
foggy zealot
rough silo
lapis pike
topaz void
lapis pike
foggy zealot
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Lovely, I'd urge you to check the messages above!

topaz void
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steven can decide both our fates cheeks

rough silo
foggy zealot
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if that is not illness lol

topaz void
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Falls under spam if those being pinged believe it to be excessive. Typically one ping per conversation/topic is the max. RIP bam lmfao

rough silo
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Keep pinging

pale grove
# topaz void

the gall and the delusion is "my psychiatrist is in love with me" level

flat furnace
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Is that a real thing people think? harrharr

topaz void
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gg thanks ren for lmk who to contact for support, my mistake on the CMs I misunderstood their purpose here

lapis pike
topaz void
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thanks for the heads up!

timber oliveBOT
lapis pike
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That's the link for tickets

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Any in game issues go there

foggy zealot
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thanks for keeping our discord streets clean

topaz void
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@srixun

earnest garden
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When in doubt, make a ticket. CS always has an answer... sometimes.

mint kestrel
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Gojo_Shrug Can be hard to check and read the pins, great work Ren

polar veldt
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Gotta come play in the streets if we’re gonna talk about em!

flat furnace
topaz void
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when in doubt ping steven

earnest garden
lapis pike
foggy zealot
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I reported someone for global chat harassment yesterday and it was responded to and had a nice convo with CS today about it, they were extremely responsive.

flat furnace
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Actually 1 is still open they just straight up stopped responding because they didn't have any answers harrharr

earnest garden
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Yes. Ping the man whos dick deep in making this game and still recovering from surgery. Surely that'll work out well

lapis pike
flat furnace
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I guess but that doesn't help me much

lapis pike
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Not every question or concern has an answer sadly

earnest garden
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Can you escalate a ticket for more answers or a clarification on non replies?

flat furnace
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I'm still stuck here missing cosmetics I paid good money for sobbing_otter

rough silo
earnest garden
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I thought they said next batch of cosmetics is Harbringers patch

foggy zealot
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Ive never had a ticket responded to in one day followed by a conversation idk if i just had like a crazy situation or what but they were on it

pale grove
earnest garden
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Its usually like 24-36hrs for me on replies

lapis pike
flat furnace
pale grove
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there is a goose ship calling my literal name

foggy zealot
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you will never get that

topaz void
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its sad bam deleted all his older messages mentioning my name now its back down to under 10 :(

earnest garden
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Wait theres boat cosmetics? What

lapis pike
pale grove
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it's unhealthy to be so vindictive, holidays are good hallmarks of touching grass

earnest garden
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Wait Halloween is a paid holiday?

grand lily
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Yes, I go to work on holloween and they pay me

rough silo
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What is halloween?

pale grove
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H O N K (but in swan)

earnest garden
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IS THIS A THING IN THIS GAME? I NEED IT

pale grove
earnest garden
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..... man, I hope they open up the cosmetic shop again. My wallet is weeping rn

topaz void
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and you wonder why people think you are from aura lel

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did you join in on the abuse in bypassing war cooldowns perhaps ThinkingStevenMan

rough silo
topaz void
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why did you delete your older spams about me ThinkingStevenMan

rough silo
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Delete? Spam about you? ok now you're tripping.

topaz void
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i mean all your messages from before this phase about me are gone i liked reading them :/

polar veldt
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You guys should go out on a date and get it over with at this point

topaz void
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been over a year i think since bam saw me at lv24 and ragetyped at me for my enveus tag 💔

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even had the untiltable mountain in my /tells like this 🤣

cyan violet
polar veldt
topaz void
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on the newly released schooner 👀

foggy zealot
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THIS GAME IS PERFECT IN EVERY WAY

rough silo
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nah keep throwing shit into the fire

drifting herald
earnest garden
leaden oyster
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The gang of 5 lead by Cheekie I believe. Dude's behavior is shit, and this is an exploit. It doesn't matter if they know about it or if others are using it. It's an MMO where you have 5 toons so who am I accusing? Beats me I don't have access to tell.This is why single character per server should be used in games like this. <sigh>

covert chasm
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One character per server?

leaden oyster
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Eh in the mean time let people get abused? Nah. Ban them. You don't want that kind of playerin the community.

rough silo
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oh we going back at it again huh

versed fulcrum
leaden oyster
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And yet I hear of Bounties for crafters locations? Are you in the 5? Cause you ain't playing even close to nice. Great that you've found more ways to obfuscate the system aka exploit. It's one thing to do it, but at least don't act like children when you do it. I'll send you an out of line screen shot if you want, but honestly I don't really usually have the time. I just click ignore in game and move on. But I don't like friends being targeted. That is a line.

covert chasm
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i think the real humor is that all these hardcore "pvp" guilds spent a lot of money just for this game to destroy them, in alpha lmao

leaden oyster
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You missed the point. If you know there are issues. Then stop abusing them. Act like an adult in game.

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It's called do that either random or with consent from the other party otherwise it's still harassment. We are not paid workers doing QA.

topaz void
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I posted a bunch of screenshots above with evidence from the user himself explaining how he does it, feel free to use those or use your own evidence in a cs report

lilac harness
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3 lies in their guild title. Server first? Hardcore? PvX? Seems like a lot of crying from people with this guild tag line.

versed fulcrum
# covert chasm i think the real humor is that all these hardcore "pvp" guilds spent a lot of mo...

I have seen a thousand dipshit chestthumpers come and go over the years. They come in full of piss and vinegar, and leave as shaved kittens varying times later. Everyone used to piss themselves that "X guild is coming to Ashes and is going to ruin it for everyone!" and X guild would sit in chat and or testing and be way less scary once they had buttons to click. Then they would internally blame each other for being those waxed hairless felines and self destruct. You lose a bunch who cry and stomp off to "other games that treat me like I am a big boy now!" and the cycle repeats. And the one or two who remain, seed the next round of dipshittery. Look to the beacons here from like 2018 in the vid, all of the guilds who were supposed hot shit and going to drive Ashes pvp are all dead and gone. They might have one or two randoms who still try to keep the flame alive, but they dead. The same will happen again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqIquwVwvKk&feature=youtu.be

covert chasm
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Have they all also been classic wow guilds?

topaz void
leaden oyster
versed fulcrum
leaden oyster
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Are you related to Blood Ninja?

polar veldt
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It’s just game! Report it and move on. You guys gotta find better shit to yell at eachother about. The guys living so rent free in all yours heads!

foggy zealot
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me when dads ping me with terrible takes and completely inaccurate information...i think this isnt the right alpha test for some of you

polar veldt
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It’s almost like in a game when sombody fucks with you.. you fuck with them back.

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Band together go fight lol

topaz void
foggy zealot
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cant believe i won another phase

topaz void
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should be the easiest decision for anyone at intrepid to see booting you is much better for their playerbase ShrugMage

versed fulcrum
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You just have to spread them cheeks to get to the creamy starfish center.

foggy zealot
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you are disgusting

versed fulcrum
pale grove
drifting herald
topaz void
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me when i drop guild to avoid further pvp, baiting corruption for the players trying to regain their materials, also making it so they can not declare their own war instead of a forfeit - so a player trying to regain their materials needs to risk losing their gear to reclaim any fraction of materials back

old raptor
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meds

topaz void
earnest garden
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Tims just doing what he does every phase. Tests the shit outta people's mental

rough silo
earnest garden
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You right.

topaz void
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its funny cause he blocked me today yet keeps popping back in to reply indirectly to my messages

mental tusk
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AURA yall bunch of bitches for dropping guild too

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dropping guild and logging is some of the most L behavior and all the popular guilds do it which is hilarious to me

topaz void
mental tusk
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see how i didnt delete log or dodge when there was a misunderstanding cause im not a bitch 😮

mental tusk
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brother has a folder for ashes screenshots acting like hes not a Tylenol baby

topaz void
earnest garden
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now i wanna binge watch letterkenny again. thanks Kace.

mental tusk
topaz void
rough silo
earnest garden
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the weeknd is dookie

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minus.. the daft punk cocaine song, thats a banger.

rough silo
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woah woah woah

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trying to send phishies here

earnest garden
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guess they dont want me to link shit, weird flex.

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either way, banger cuz of daft punk co-writing and producing, and hes 1000% singing about cocaine.

rough silo
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After Hours is a banger album with synthwave mixes

earnest garden
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hmm ya... dis is true, i did see his last show in toronto, man knows how to put on a show.

earnest garden
marble sky
leaden oyster
calm saddle
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What does having a job have to do with not pvping? Sounds like an excuse because ur scared

calm saddle
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My jimmies are so rustled right now its unbelievable

rough silo
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PvPers are jobless people, live in their basement

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If you are a pvper you are a communist

earnest garden
rough silo
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If you are a PvPer your place is in a gulag

topaz void
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you're* is a good contraction to use there

viral gulch
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who we got winning the siege tomorrow

rough silo
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If you are a pvper, you have foot pedals

earnest garden
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I hope you all had a wonderful Halloween.

rough silo
earnest garden
rough silo
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Santa is not real

marsh agate
earnest garden
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Alright Bam is on a villian arc I see. Someone give me a snickers

topaz void
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i only had one trick or treater and luckily subway gave some candy out today so i could give it to the lil witch

rough silo
earnest garden
topaz void
summer prairie
earnest garden
lilac harness
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Shibari crafting nice and safe in their bubble.

thorny cobalt
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whats the matter, your friends arent on and you just can't handle ganking a crafter without 4 other guys to hold your dick for you?

lilac harness
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I'm not on, either. Poe 1 league start was today.

thorny cobalt
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on enough to know im crafting lol

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lil obsessed over there sweetie

lilac harness
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I don't need to be on to know you advertised in global and popped food.

Edit: Sorry, it was trade, not global.

thorny cobalt
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wait, so someone is reporting on me to you? lmao ya'll are pathetic

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Jesus, Supple really is a joke

lilac harness
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you underestimate how many people dislike you. people are messaging us to ask how much to kill you after your mental illness was spread in global for 3 days.

thorny cobalt
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lmao yeah buddy, and you have friends IRL- shit you come up with some funny fantasies

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But hey, if you want to abuse war decs being busted so you can surprise gank crafters from small guilds every night, don't be surprised when you get called the fuck out for it

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I'm over here laughing on discord with my buddies right now though at you thinking anyone outside Supple and your greifing buddies give a enough of a shit about your feels to be upset with me- hell I've had people thanking me for the warning, or commiserating because you did the same thing to them or one of their guildies. You made the choice to put on the black hat, and that's OK, it's part of the game- but there being social consequences for your choices is also part of the game. Me calling you out for your shit and letting the server know the shit you pull and not to trust you is also part of the game. Reputation matters in MMORPGs- we are a community. And part of being in a healthy commuity is calling out the bad actors, the douchebags, the people who make the game less fun.

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Though I will admit to having lots of fun seeing how mad you all get about being called out- the attempts to gaslight, cheels straight up lying and accusing me of shit, the "people are mad at you for calling us out", the "stop crying" - like dude that's some highschool shit, it's hilarious.

manic tiger
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@novel turret

fresh cliff
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Buying war dec on VICE 40g

topaz void
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Tell those you commiserate with to report to cs, plenty of screenshots of self admissions of guilt that pair very nicely with the whining and gaslighting 😂

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Especially since he felt confident enough in putting a cs ticket in to silence you for your global efforts to help others be aware of their guild drop exploits

weak robin
topaz void
rough silo
topaz void
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Even they didn’t want you 💀

leaden oyster
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They aren't even Black Hats. They don't RP, they are just assholes.

novel turret
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deported china rmt from forge for 2 hours

weak robin
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They've been in there every night

novel turret
weak robin
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@manic tiger remember aunt ^

manic tiger
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yes

warped mural
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Trick or Treat!!

cyan violet
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What in the bucked tooth basement dweller fuck is going on in here?

warped mural
drifting herald
drifting herald
flat furnace
drifting herald
flat furnace
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I bought my $500 pack with money I panhandled dance

leaden oyster
# pale grove Many of us are employed lolll

15 hours at a minimum wage job is not the level of employment I'm talking about. I don't think I need to list my bonafides in order to discuss the workings of an Alpha MMO or activites that are happening. While I'm sure there is much that happens that I don't know of. The little I do is what I'm commenting on.

calm saddle
flat furnace
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No time to PvP while shining the coin collection. You wouldn't understand apopcorn

calm saddle
leaden oyster
drifting herald
foggy zealot
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The funniest part is i can with complete certainty guarantee you that he doesn't make half of what she does

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But alas...we are dealing with the mentally ill here and there is no use in attempting to reason. Its just sad

drifting herald
rough silo
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PvPers need their own server so I can explore/gather in peace

brittle bramble
earnest garden
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Goose puts in like 70hr+ weeks. Shes got that bread

rough silo
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PvPers need to get timeout ingame if they kill players that are not willing to participate in consensual pvp.

pale grove
earnest garden
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Okay thats a cursed image. Jesus fuck my eyes

pale grove
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But also, I would never disparage someone for their job. Thats gross.

earnest garden
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Any employment > none. Shading someone whos working is just bleh

foggy zealot
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Going to start a petition to disallow the quitters and non players from typing in this discord

rough silo
flat furnace
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I went into a lawless zone and a player walked towards me. It made me feel very afraid and uncomfortable. Steven please fix waa

flat furnace
drifting herald
limpid leaf
violet lintel
rough silo
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All PvPers are unemployed that live in the basement

limpid leaf
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Wait... you are with EBC Wolves
Aren't you supposed to be good?

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If you don't like fights, then you should leave the game now.
Most of the difficult and high rarity resources are going to be in Lawless PvP Zones

pale grove
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Yall are getting hard trolled lol 😆

rough silo
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If you like killing players without consent you belong in the gulag

violet lintel
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You might like Farmville more @rough silo

rough silo
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If you pay $100 in ashes to kill players you need to hit refund and go play Call of Duty or Battlefield, this is not the game for you

thorny cobalt
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Hey Cheeks someone told me about your cuck chair and it all makes sense now. You like 5v1s so you can sit in a corner and watch while the other 4 people with you actually fuck over the crafters for you, and you can just go collect the load after.

pale grove
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Don't you think its time to saddle up and move along?

foggy zealot
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i dont even know what that means but you still seem hurt lmao, unlucky

you pov 4 days later:

thorny cobalt
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I'm having lots of fun 🙂

thorny cobalt
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Its a great game. Not sure if you'd like it though, it requires skill.

polar veldt
thorny cobalt
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Can't really wallet warrior your way to feeling like a winner. So probably not for you.

polar veldt
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lol you guys are still yelling at cheeks ><

thorny cobalt
foggy zealot
hard onyx
thorny cobalt
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Ya'll are the ones who were threatening me last night lol

polar veldt
foggy zealot
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i wasnt on last night and didnt speak to you "yall", go talk to whoever spoke to you no one cares lmao

thorny cobalt
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Grouping is just the only way supple can kill anyone, i agree

polar veldt
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I meant the other people haha

foggy zealot
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crying for attention

thorny cobalt
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He was with your ganking crew. Just posting shit when I'm crafting. So kinda shows who is really obsessed here if you guys are tracking me.

foggy zealot
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holy your discord bio WTF LOL you are crying for attention and its sad..sorry have to block you like the rest of the ills

thorny cobalt
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I just want crafters on the server to be able to craft in peace without shitters abusing bugs ganking them

polar veldt
thorny cobalt
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Lmao if that makes you feel better. Everyone did say you always run away when you're losing.

hasty gyro
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How many times has Cheeks ran the crafters cheeks to demand this much outcry PepoG

polar veldt
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I duno the story even. I just know everytime i come in here sombody is yelling at him

hasty gyro
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If it’s under 10 times then man idk. Try a different game maybe? I could see if it’s every day the same target but come on now HUHH

thorny cobalt
hard onyx
earnest garden
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confirmed lore that Timolope is from North Korea.

topaz void
#

Taking a break to let that heat die down

polar veldt
topaz void
hasty gyro
#

My PR answer is bad Cheeks cat_nod don’t do that

earnest garden
#

yeah tim, stop decc'ing pve'ers for 3g in daff threads.

foggy zealot
#

ive never disbanded the guild im not sure what that is about, i would probably compare that to people dropping guild to avoid wars and ive seen so many people do that cowardly behavior idk

foggy zealot
polar veldt
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On a real note i think thats intended for guilds to be doing etc.. Denying progression is a part of what i think they want. In what manner i guess is debatble but

earnest garden
#

poor rug. he'll never recover. PeepoGlad

foggy zealot
hasty gyro
earnest garden
#

i can honestly say, i've never dropped guild, yet tim has dropped at least 15x this phase. mans got more guild coats than a cross dresser at this rate. figure it out tim, who ARE you.

foggy zealot
#

these guys waste more of intrepids time investigating nonsensical tickets full of their tears than anyone

hasty gyro
#

Tim the grim reaper of Shol atm

earnest garden
#

hes finally embracing his evil internet phase. he's finally taken his true form.

foggy zealot
#

yeah this is definitely a change in behavior from me from p2 and p2.5, for sure

earnest garden
#

next phase, you'll just be a full time fisherman, becoming figgie 2.0

foggy zealot
#

honestly after what one of the chinese guys streamed to me today, im done this phase - there is WAY more duped items out there than id imagined, its actually so cooked.

earnest garden
#

the rmt'ers have been going ham this phase, unlocking crafting has really pooched that, lol

#

and the duping for 2+ weeks unchecked, its a bit disheartening but, testing still has to be done. to the mines we go

foggy zealot
#

nah you guys dont even know how bad it is

earnest garden
#

what knowledge did you gleam from them, share with the class.

foggy zealot
#

that shit is more cooked than i thought it was and duped items were not removed

hard onyx
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Lol, removed the guild name from the message. Don't want the suppliers getting pissed at him

foggy zealot
#

cya next phase <3

thorny cobalt
#

And nothing of value was lost

hard onyx
#

doubtful

foggy zealot
earnest garden
#

i mean, ive seen max roll epic rosethorn 8/8, if that isnt an indicator, idk.

#

yeah, not allowed to share what we've seen or heard, gotta do tickets like diligent lil testers... lol

foggy zealot
#

however bad you think it is, multiply it x100

polar veldt
topaz void
#

Bye 👋😎

earnest garden
#

i dont doubt it... here's hoping p3.5 wont be as bad.

hard onyx
#

Hopefully, some people ask some of the real questions on the next live stream

hasty gyro
#

Like we are literally protecting the worst demographic for gaming

thorny cobalt
#

Yeah naming who they ban would be great too

foggy zealot
hasty gyro
polar veldt
#

been saying that all along.

#

Double standards will drive people off hard

hasty gyro
#

Just stand on business in whatever you decide and I can respect that and roll with the punches. But “rules for thee but not for me” on different situations across multiple players/guilds it’s becoming a headache. Every guilds been a victim of it at one point

foggy zealot
#

It seems as though a loud enough community can sway them in any direction on any topic and that is extremely worrying.

polar veldt
#

Yep. Problematic

flat furnace
brittle bramble
flat furnace
#

2.25

topaz void
earnest garden
brittle bramble
# thorny cobalt Yeah naming who they ban would be great too

Ngl, idc about the naming. But it needs to actually happen, can't let people get away with actually cheating in the game. Speed hacks dupe hacks, overlays, damage buff hacks, etc.
I do understand from a dev/alpha perspective you want those people here now, and hopefully with the new EAC Engineer holes can be patched up and those people will be kicked out because the game won't let them in, not because a moderator hand jammed their account info in.

thorny cobalt
#

I get the arguement about wanting the people good at finding exploits around, but I can't imagine most involved are finding exploits they are just script kiddie types buying or learning them and then going wild and messing up all the other data intrepid is trying to collect.

flat furnace
#

As Steven and any reasonable human have said a million times.......finding bugs is amazing and helpful. Abusing bugs is shitty and harmful. It is 2 entirely different things.

brittle bramble
flat furnace
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You don't need to dupe 800 crates to know it's a bug...... You knew it was a bug after the first one and the other 799 were because you're an asshole

foggy zealot
flat furnace
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Ok fair enough harrharr

polar veldt
#

People have been banned for doing a lot less

summer prairie
#

@foggy zealot bro... Not a good look

foggy zealot
#

idk what that means

brittle bramble
#

Actually implementing the gold tracking from cradle to grave like has been discussed does need to get spun up soon.
Idc about more content, keep improving the foundation of the game.
Gold tracking, hopefully, severely reduces RMTing. It should be a high priority item imo

pale grove
thorny cobalt
#

Yall talk so much shit and do so much greifing but can't handle any heat. Not surprising but kinda sad.

flat furnace
#

harrharr harrharr harrharr goose you wish that was you, that lady looks like she's having the best time doing whatever the hell she's doing.

rough silo
#

If you want to PvP go play league of legends this is not the game for you

thorny cobalt
#

Really weird how much research you 2 are doing on me though. Ya'll aren't very good though, haven't even gotten to the interesting bits to vaguely threaten to dox me with yet.

rough silo
#

Crafters/Gatherers should be able to do things in full safety and peace, pvpers belong in the gulag

lilac harness
#

Perhaps for the siege tonight the defenders could just give us the city. Pvp is outlawed in the cities. Can't have that.

pale grove
#

You talked about your wife in global. You are being weird and talking about me a lot. Obsessed

thorny cobalt
novel turret
#

Siege but we show up with gifts like its Christmas and build up the town

pale grove
earnest garden
#

people make it weirdly personal in here

thorny cobalt
#

Hey i just told him not to post unflattering videos of you at Walmart. Sheesh, you try to help people out...

keen lotus
#

What is this channel

foggy zealot
#

where the freaks type, welcome

lilac harness
#

Wolf person attempts to find a new pack. It's a national geographic documentary.

summer prairie
#

@foggy zealot Iknow you're jelly but using the supreme leaders good name for your plundering tour is a big nono

foggy zealot
#

what are you talking about and why did that take you 14 minutes to type

thorny cobalt
rough silo
#

You kill me for my materials you deserve everything bad coming for you

flat furnace
#

Bam this is low effort even for you rip_otter

foggy zealot
#

shits perfect

summer prairie
earnest garden
#

Too many pumps, not enough pumperz

keen lotus
rough silo
#

PvPers need to be exiled from playing with regular people, they live in basements and have no job

keen lotus
#

I thought it was only if you flagged (just started)

flat furnace
#

I wish I was unemployed........ Does that count?

summer prairie
brittle bramble
# keen lotus I thought it was only if you flagged (just started)

there are multiple ways for there to be pvp in this game,
guild wars, node wars, and lawless zones do not require anything of you. so beware or what guild you join, node you become a citizen of, or where you farm. because it could lead to pvp you might not want.
caravans and similar events will also allow people to fight you without flagging. but you have to opt into these events, its not like a normal event in the world.
flagging still exists and is a good way to opt out of most pvp atm, but it also doesnt mean people wont corrupt on you to take stuff from you. so make sure to be aware of your surroundings, and try to have a buddy with you, this is a MMO after all.
there are also big events like seiges that are super fun, but require some work to get started and you have to be accepted into the team, seats are limited(100v100 cap atm).

remember just because you opt out of pvp, doesnt mean the person attacking you also opted out. they just have to deal with the corruption, you arent immune to other people attacks.

earnest garden
flat furnace
rough silo
#

siege in a few.

topaz void
#

Gulag ^

rough silo
wicked bone
#

The entire defense side got ported underwater at the start, basically once the first gate fell

foggy zealot
#

who

wicked bone
foggy zealot
#

asked

rough silo
#

Mira is ass, thats the feedback from this raid, shit was worse than anvils performance wise.

topaz void
#

why are you wrong

fresh cliff
plain birch
novel turret
quiet swift
#

Sieges still need work, testing ,..they should drop the gold requirements so we can have them more often

flat furnace
#

People are drowning in gold, we could have one every second day of people felt like it.

novel ridge
noble junco
#

I feel like many people here need a proper LEADER to follow. Feel free to DM me, and I will offer an inspirational image of a famous leader. For additional inspiration I can also include an inspriational quote.

foggy zealot
#

Wow man very funny ty for your input

noble junco
#

@weak robin please enlighten TANKO or WHATEVER TF HIS NAME IS NOW on the inspirational leader you've witnessed

noble junco
cyan violet
cyan violet
noble junco
#

also a saying: Multi-Level-Marketing.

#

inspires confidence worldwide

#

well it isn't like a pyramid-scheme-exploiter is running things... we all have lots of positive vibes and hope for the future

cyan violet
#

I supposed all charisma no substance does too, considering some of the GMs I’ve seen over the years.

noble junco
#

i had hope, and positivity, and confidence... 6 years ago...

calm saddle
#

In fact, probably should just delete that tbh

noble junco
#

I could go deeper, we all could

#

i'm still hoping for a positive future though

versed fulcrum
noble junco
#

Intrepid Studios is our last hope against corporate quarterly revenue spikes... Intrepid is our last hope as gamers for a game by MMORPG players tbh... so I and many others are placing all the faith we have left in them

#

that does not mean they are immune to accountability

versed fulcrum
versed fulcrum
noble junco
#

the age of information is wild... it is almost as if things you do matter

calm saddle
#

Bro turn off discord and go chill out lmao

cyan violet
#

Understanding supply chain and economics is a good reason why I don’t mald over Stevens real time ventures.

noble junco
calm saddle
versed fulcrum
#

Dammit Kaisustrin, don't calm him down. We need a crashout to bring Steven out of the shadows. He has been silent all month letting his hammer recharge, he should be ready to start swinging again. https://tenor.com/bbjfc.gif

noble junco
#

@robust wedge drop the hammer dude, you've been challenged apparently

calm saddle
noble junco
#

in this new NA era of oligarchy and silencing i'm honestly curious what happens when someone says something evenly slightly conflicting here

noble junco
#

the fact there are only 3 of us engaging isn't very optimistic ngl

versed fulcrum
#

Oh, I am just in here bored while I wait for a download to finish. Don't read to much into it. This is normally the server dead time.

noble junco
#

@robust wedge wake up dude... people(me) throwing slight shade, and other people want me hammered... oh god the drama...

cyan violet
versed fulcrum
#

All good things require sacrifice. Just ask the Mayans.

cyan violet
#

Accountability is a funny word

versed fulcrum
#

So if they ban you, does that mean you lack account ability?

drifting herald
rough silo
signal anvil
opaque sluice
#

This is your reminder that there are no Tulnar.

viral wagon
#

deadge chat

rough silo
#

pvpers are killing this game

earnest garden
fervent hound
topaz void
#

but there wont be a reset for harbingers

drifting herald
topaz void
#

they dont use seawater, they dont use trash water, these vids take away fresh water :(

novel turret
novel turret
#

😠

spiral nimbus
viral wagon
#

I'm already in phase 4 of Ashes, log on

earnest garden
#

Global needs more of this.

cyan violet
# novel turret

Grow the beard, shave your head. Nothing wrong with being bald and wise.

rugged apex
#

@foggy zealot heard you finally quit

wicked bone
rugged apex
#

Who the fuck is still buying gold and items off the chinese when everyone knows fresh is coming

#

Seriously who are the ppl keeping them in buisness.. shameless behavior

wicked bone
#

gotta be this guy

hazy light
hollow monolith
#

It's kinda like Steven caved in to public pressure for a specifically targeted ban to not have the word " Favouritism " thrown his way huh

inland crater
#

Especially given last livestream we were told we would see some transparency shown towards bans, such as listing what people got banned for and how many, but it's been pretty quiet

#

Lately the livestreams just feel super disconnected from whatever Intrepid is actually doing. We hear "updates on Tuesdays going forwards" and get no updates on any Tuesdays. And then we hear bans will be transparent, but a huge dupe goes on for weeks with no actions announced

hazy light
topaz void
# drifting herald

Sad, I will go back to blocking you so you don’t feel like you need to send me these anymore 💔

inland crater
hazy light
winged kettle
#

i would be suprised if harbringer is ready in 2 weeks

inland crater
#

I think they are under less pressure at the moment than say a month ago, a lot of people are more comfortable taking breaks when a lot of stuff is broken for Intrepid to fix. They just have a lot of work ahead of them so there isn't much reason to test stuff when we know there's a ton of stuff for them to work on.

I think they clearly have their eyes set on a new fresh start/server wipe date and they are very confident in Harbringers being a benchmark update

winged kettle
#

i just hope we test harbringer before wipe

inland crater
#

Hard agree

#

Test, fix the bugs that will come alongside it, polish it a bit, wipe in January

#

Work on skill trees/augments/story lines for next 3 months

winged kettle
#

there will 100% be some janky shit with the proposed gathering/crates for corruption zones

inland crater
#

I mean yeah, that's why we're here 🙂 I fully expect bugs in an alpha environment so I want to help them get fixed and have my say on balancing the game

winged kettle
hazy light
inland crater
#

I would normally agree but dupe makes for unfair testing environment

winged kettle
inland crater
# hazy light I prefer march - april with all class skill trees rework. Level cap increase to ...

Level cap increase is practically a soft wipe though, we'll probably be unlocking whole new tiers of gear.

I also expect when the level cap increases we'll see the stats on all the gear change, I truly believe what we're testing now power/mitigation wise is meant to be the endgame numbers so they'll tweak the stats on all the items to be lower and make the new level 39 items basically equivalent to level 29 gear sets.

#

I also think incrimental increases just complicates the testing environment and we should just get the max level increase/wipe all at once instead of slowly increasing it and making everything gear wise weird

hazy light
inland crater
#

I don't really care about bad reputations, as long as the game is good people will come to it through word of mouth

#

FF14 and OSRS had bad reputations to start but grew into top 3 MMOs

winged kettle
#

power/mit balancing feels okay at 300+ 40%. rng procs really fucks with small scale though feels unfair/unrewarding

hazy light
drifting herald
winged kettle
#

i think heal power nerfs are lame, and or nerf wound

inland crater
#

I think live service MMOs can outgrow an initial bad reception, a ton of people gave New World a ton of extra tries but the devs kept messing up.

hazy light
#

You are not wrong but still it is a risky move due to Ashes is grindy therefore you cant give as many chances New World had. Because you literally need to tons of more effort to actually see if its worth it or not

inland crater
#

There's enough people that will come back to this game on launch because they bought packs, I'm not too worried about player count. It'll have a ton of interest on launch, a ton of players will quit because it isn't the game for them, people will claim the game is dead or dying, and then if it's a good MMO they'll slowly increase the playerbase over time through good content. That's what the good MMOs do.

winged kettle
#

i wonder if harbring corruption zones will play like an extraction game with gatherables/crates

inland crater
hazy light
topaz void
#

surprised my gif spam didnt put me on urs yet 🤣 guess i dont post random bs

inland crater
pastel tusk
#

I mean active doxxers they just let stroll right back into this discord.

pastel tusk
calm saddle
#

A negative rep for an alpha doesn't really matter that much, because all it does is just convince the naysayers that they're right. Now, if all this shit and trouble is gone through, and the beta is fire? It'll of been worth it.

hazy light
pastel tusk
#

Negative rep doesn't matter, actively letting the person who doxxed Liniker yet actively blocking the others who doxxed those doxxers is nothing short of hypocritical

calm saddle
#

Is this another one of those, "this person's a doxxer because they found easily accessible information the person posted on the internet" or

pastel tusk
#

I think everyone should be able to play

calm saddle
#

What does that have to do with anything

pastel tusk
#

Clear favoritism to shifty irl actions in a small community that's already dwindling yet promoting a marketing push. OK. This has nothing to do with anything.

viral wagon
calm saddle
#

Clearly you never played AA and having your own publicly available information posted doesn't mean you can't play a vidya game

#

Sure, people shouldn't do that, but shit happens, its the internet. You also shouldn't have your Facebook linked to your Discord account

pastel tusk
#

Rules for thee, not for me.

calm saddle
#

Okay stay mad I guess

pastel tusk
#

Not mad just disappointed

calm saddle
#

I'm sure your continuing of voicing your disappointment will assuredly change Intrepid's mind, believe in yourself

pastel tusk
#

Closed mouths don't get fed

calm saddle
#

I too can share random tidbits of possibly related wisdom

pastel tusk
#

And im not disappointed in intrepid, im disappointed at people using irl means to deprive themselves of in game competition. That's where you put on the clown mask

calm saddle
#

Its anything to win for some people. Of course, that doesn't make it right, but that doesn't change what is, and its on you to protect yourself rather then hoping everyone else around you holds themselves to the same standards.

#

I locked down my irl details I had posted online years and years ago because I learned that lesson the hard way too

pastel tusk
#

Do you defend the use of irl photos posted actively in this discord disregarding community guidelines? We both know it happened

calm saddle
#

Have I defended it? No. Has Intrepid done anything about it? No. Therefore there's no point in continuing to bring it up either. It happened. The people it happened too should take steps to ensure it doesn't happen again

pastel tusk
#

Thank you for these screenshots regarding the communities approach to handling this issue and the lack of moderation happening within this "Official" server.

calm saddle
#

Enjoy the SS' I guess lol

#

If your intent was to bait specific responses out of me in the first place, that's pretty weird too, but hey live your life

pastel tusk
#

It wasnt

summer willow
#

Damn someone’s butthurt

#

I need more to read for entertainment purposes . Please continue

pastel tusk
#

I've got a real kicker for ya! There's more devs than customers actively playtesting the game in its current state, the degradation of player counts in guilds has me chuckling at the internal mistakes of ego ridden game developers who think that echo chambers are viable forms of feedback and any criticism is seen as invalid.

rough silo
fresh cliff
#

Hey I am here waiting for any proof . ty sirs

rough silo
#

ngl idk whats goin on and cba, its monday.

weak robin
#

ITS BLOODY HOT IIN AUSTRALIA MY GAWD

fair quiver
#

does anyone play anymore?

rough silo
foggy locust
#

Went back for 5 mins, saw they nerfed Serenity, immediately uninstalled.

tardy ermine
cyan violet
mossy osprey
#

i too like to use big words because it makes me sound photosynthesis

topaz drum
#

Obiously you dont understand the great science of build crafting

hollow pendant
#

Save yourselves the frustration and just play Guild Wars 2 at this point. Ashes may be officially GGs sadly

rough silo
drifting herald
drifting herald
#

Fashion wars 2 is an amazing game specially for people who have never played it

viral wagon
#

guild wars 2 is the worst of the big 4 MMOs out

drifting herald
viral wagon
rough silo
#

Gw2 has no depth in pvp, pve due being horizontal progression it fails to release meaningful content

drifting herald
#

BDO made the top 4 ?

#

Not elder scrolls or swtor

flat furnace
#

Only for people who don't count RuneScape as an mmo

rough silo
#

if we add those gw2 doesnt come on top 5.

drifting herald
#

Either way, depends on which metrics we define successful mmorpgs, do we consider financial success? Or player retention and numbers ?

rough silo
#

you cannot be financially successful without player retention/numbers.

viral wagon
#

I wouldn't even rank gw2 in the top 30 of mmos

rough silo
#

the same thing that makes it good its what its used an excuse for lack of depth which is the horizontal progression.

viral wagon
#

I'm not even trolling when I say I'd rank Dragon Quest 10 higher than GW2 on the top mmos list

rough silo
#

am not trolling either but for sure its on the top 30 mmorpgs but top 10? nah

hollow pendant
#

All im saying is it sure as hell beats hitting rocks and trees all day just to run scrims against your own guild as the only PvP content in game.

drifting herald
#

Idk I like the game it’s unique and has brought a lot of insight to the genre , like most successful mmorpgs , they are all needed to keep the genre alive

rough silo
viral wagon
#

Guild Wars 2 feels like it tried to copy Tera but made it really bad after getting drunk on stupid juice

drifting herald
#

I’d also argue it has better combat than ashes , more of a tab hybrid than full tab game

rough silo
viral wagon
#

calling it action combat is a stretch. it has the same sort of combat that Wizardry Online has

drifting herald
drifting herald
#

I’m about to PvP some aram Mayhems ! Aram with some augments ! Then jump into path of exile two , called in sick today ! lol

viral wagon
drifting herald
#

Hot take : all the top MMOs still are just clones and will
Never be real tops when you consider DnD And pathfinder !

hollow pendant
#

It was either try GW2 or play TnL again. And there was no chance I go back to that god forsaken game

viral wagon
#

how the fuck are your MMO options limited to only 2 with the current market?

drifting herald
#

100000% gw2 is way better than a bad mobile port for pc

drifting herald
hollow pendant
#

I think I tried it and enjoyed it, but didn’t have any one else to play with.

rough silo
#

anyway am just here to say, gw2 doesnt break top 10 mmorpgs in any measurement or scale you try to put besides "fashion".

hollow pendant
#

Been playing Redsec, the battlefield BR. Feels good to get the competitive juices flowing again

drifting herald
flat furnace
#

If people are saying it's worse than lost ark then I'm not sure what we're doing here.

rough silo
#

lost "wallet" ark? you gotta swipe and play at least 8 alts to keep your main up to date?

drifting herald
#

Yea no way it’s worse than lost ark, you can literally immerse yourself into the main season stuff , skyscale, mount farming , jumping puzzle , gliding maps, world bosses and challenging instanced content ,

rough silo
#

Anyway am gonna go eat.

hollow pendant
#

I was actually having a lot of fun on new world until AGS nuked the player count.

hasty gyro
#

Alright Mara I’ve heard some takes of yours but that might take the cake. GW2 combat is some hot ass compared to Ashes combat

#

The RvR itself is of the same trash that NW/TNL was where it’s just glob vs glob fighting in a 5 meter box. And the smaller scale PvP in it (while better than its RvR imo) is still light years worse than Ashes small scale.

drifting herald
#

You mean the argument I made about it being tab hybrid , that’s what it is, and that ashes is full tab, so by default wouldn’t ashes have a lower skill ceiling compared to abilities that have directional targeting ?

#

Let’s keep it a buck , we don’t have to agree whether it’s good or bad , that’s subjective opinions , but I enjoyed it when I played it and I think it’s a solid free to play experience if you haven’t tried it !

hasty gyro
drifting herald
#

Like how often do you miss your attacks when holding auto attack lol or pressing 1-2-3-4 etc ?

#

And let me guess you play bard or ranger or mage , something ranged , which would also indicate a few other skill gap issues

hasty gyro
#

And yeah I’m sure I’m one of the people with skill gap issues FeelsOkayMan

cyan violet
#

Hm.

covert chasm
#

i have tried to be into gw2 so much, but it just never sticks

drifting herald
#

Now go ahead and tell me I’m wrong and how you never cheated or people you attach yourself to also don’t cheat

earnest garden
#

Thats a confused bird

earnest garden
#

That is.... something I cant unsee. pepe_wtf

earnest garden
drifting herald
#

Imma assume it’s an anime

cyan violet
earnest garden
#

Americanized anime?

drifting herald
#

Ah shit not an anime perse

cyan violet
#

yeah its def not an anime, its just on netflix.

drifting herald
#

Well hmm it’s Miyazaki style so American japanime

#

Plus no one ever gives credit to ninja scroll and the old badass japanimes anymore

cyan violet
#

apparently its made in a computer but its influenced by the older ones

drifting herald
#

Yea you can tell the software took a lot of inspiration art style from Miyazaki , ninja scroll is more traditional Japan style animation

hasty gyro
#

Like what in tf did I even say could trigger your fight or flight system when we were just talking about tab vs action combat and it became “you cheat, melee w key more skill than ranged, zug zug” Classic

hasty gyro
drifting herald
# hasty gyro And yeah I don’t see an excuse. It’s a fact melee in this game sucks and plays l...

Interesting , lots to digest , How did I belittle you in arena chat when you came at me about my “takes” on gw2 combat , given the history of everything , I’m not attacking you again this victim mentality ? Idk what gameplay you’re trying to say “we” all seen but in regards to ashes yall ain’t anything for me to worry about in fact I can point to multiple occasions I nuked yall lol

cyan violet
#

Coot giving me great axe / hatchet Zugzug flashbacks

cyan violet
#

_>

drifting herald
#

These guys over here pfffft

cyan violet
#

Not sure what any of this has to do with cognition.

cyan violet
#

I don’t know why youd lump Bard with Ranger and Mage tho

hasty gyro
# drifting herald Interesting , lots to digest , How did I belittle you in arena chat when you cam...

I said of all your takes this one took the cake cause Ashe’s combat is widely regarded as their best aspect HUHH if that’s a severe enough “attack” on you to claim victim you gotta mirror 🪞 back my guild tag then that just proves I struck a nerve simply stating I disliked pure action combat shruggy Also only thing you nuked was winning a 30vs 300 at forge during a caravan raid. We also tipped our hats to you guys for finally organizing the realm against us polarsmoking

cyan violet
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Bard requires more in terms of cognitive processes. It’s #1 till Summoner drops.

drifting herald
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Fair enough

void plaza
hasty gyro
bitter salmon
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That's the most true statement I have seen on this discord server ever.

drifting herald
polar veldt
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Nobody even pvps anymore ><

drifting herald
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It’s still a clout chase based discord lobby pvx game

hasty gyro
inland crater
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This phase had like 1% of the pvp of any other phase 😭

drifting herald
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I’m sorry I called polar cheaters coot lol do you forgive me so we can debate mmo combat

polar veldt
inland crater
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Many of us spent a lot of time in the 3 month leadup to phase 3 telling everyone they were gutting pvp and it would result in a boring game.

The same people that said we just wanted to grief people aren't playing their pve haven game

drifting herald
hasty gyro
inland crater
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Every MMO development, people argue for removal of pvp, and then they act all surprised when the game is boring and dies

hasty gyro
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And ppl will mention some niche system in an MMO that might’ve had 500 players but damn does some of the systems sound good

cyan violet
polar veldt
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PVE has a means to end. Once its done its done. Without pvp it will never survive unless your WoW at this point

hasty gyro
drifting herald
inland crater
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This game isn't built to have crazy pve. It's built to have crazy pvp happening while you're trying to pve resulting in a lot of dynamic open world gameplay.

cyan violet
hasty gyro
polar veldt
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if they go in the direction of catering to pve its DOA

inland crater
hasty gyro
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Even if I just have one person to play with I’ll try any game tho. I just grow bored if I can’t yap about said games normally in voice with someone

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I’m partially brainrotted cause I cba playing any single player games though. That shit is so boring to me. I need some sense of competition even if it’s the smallest amount

polar veldt
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No idea why they wanna cater to pvp bitching about a game that was built in insperation from AA and L2

inland crater
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War charges, removing rewards from settlement/guild wars, no consequences for sieges, crates removing need for caravans, no cc to start fights in open world over resources, I could go on and on...

inland crater
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The one "pvp update" we've gotten is the POI pvp zones that spawn in the least populated areas of the map on purpose

drifting herald
hasty gyro
cyan violet
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lol

inland crater
polar veldt
drifting herald
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Try entering the imperial city in tattooine as republic , queuing warzones so you spawn in exhaustion zone just to die and re Que and do another WZ until you’re inside the imperial city nuking every player that spawns in lol

polar veldt
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The safe space shit they got going on now mind as well not even be in the game

inland crater
cyan violet
drifting herald
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Raiding all 4 horde cities with 3 40man raid groups in 2010 and one shotting that shit !

polar veldt
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If you want PVE safe game play.. play wow. If you want story go play FF

drifting herald
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Swtor story’s are 1000% better than FF

cyan violet
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You guys hear that? That’s the sound of @inland crater going bald and growing greys.

inland crater
polar veldt
drifting herald
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We used to camp that underground tram thing and just wreck every single player , resto shaman and rogue duo lol

cyan violet
drifting herald
polar veldt
drifting herald
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Brains pushing the hair out ! Sign of intelligence lol

polar veldt
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Baldness high IQ, HIGH T

drifting herald
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Seen him since he stopped pounding the roids

drifting herald
drifting herald
cyan violet
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Only thing that slows it down is venom resistance via snakes. Makes your body immune and your alleles restore.

drifting herald
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Hmmm , that’s interesting , honestly I think steroids like that are prolly one of the only illegal street drugs I haven’t tried , and the newer ones like nyls “ but good for him if he got off that shit

hasty gyro
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At least wows I can almost brute force to the point it goes to the target I want 9/10 times. Ashes is literally targetting mofos behind you or out of range Madge

viral wagon
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have you played ascension bronzebeard? that was the worst tab targeting prio I've ever seen

hasty gyro
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Almost as bad as Battlefields netcode in their new BR

viral wagon
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haven't played that. last fps I played on a regular basis was Red Orchestra 2. Shout out to the boomers

hasty gyro
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Loadout weapons will never make sense to me. Having to go zero to hero in PUBG dodging all the VPNing Chinese was my Vietnam vibing

viral wagon
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taiwan numba wan

hasty gyro
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Mara’s best take we agreed on though was Division 1’s survival mode is the best pseudo BR/extraction game ever cat_nod

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Has any action MMO ever had a timed block/parry/riposte window for melee cause I’ve always enjoy that shit in other games (more fighting type games like Chiv/Mord/For Honor)

drifting herald
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Black desert , Tera, eso, and gw2 lol all have a block ability feature

calm saddle
drifting herald
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hasty gyro
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Or imagine if tanks had to actually reflect on a good timer instead of just throwing up the shield and getting a trip off an auto. Having to time the reflect on a spell but also buffing reflects damage back would be way more interesting imo (I’m not a tank tho so idk how much that fucks or buffs them)

cyan violet
mental tusk
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i think the only argument is for the most efficient of both or the average...the average cleric is pretty braindead honestly but the most efficient requires the most of any class fs

winged kettle
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Excluding all the direct hits to pvp another big hit was also, adding crates + limiting the settlement growth. people are way less inclined to run caravans now because the options are so bad. without other nodes hitting tier 3 there are like so few caravan hand ins it is miserable for van runners to even try.

drifting herald
winged kettle
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lawless pois are so infuriating, i cannot believe they ignored the actual significant pois, it is so backwards

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Imagine how different the phase could have been if sb/carph/forge went lawless once every 6hrs,

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would have been so insane

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they wouldnt have had the polar top floor carph event outrage as bad because it would have created content, instead we had people discord pvping the devs HAHAHAHAHA

cyan violet
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Cuz oof.

drifting herald
marsh agate
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The game is being advertised as a PvX game. The current flagging system isn't very PvX...it's more of a request to engage in PvP which is so lame. At least with the rotation lawless zones (granted they're in the wrong spots for any meaningful content) PvX is actually in the game. Too many PvE players that use the corruption system to their advantage because they don't want real PvX to happen.

winged kettle
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WRONG, i and many others would log in just for the pvp. Now imagine if the luck buff incetivised grinding on top of that

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i would prefer cc on non combatants back (because this is very pvx) but instead we have lawless zones

marsh agate
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I bet it was in the intention of people running crates on foot and not being messed with, but then again crates could of solved that issue itself and made the person immune to CC and the system could of stayed the way it was

winged kettle
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yeah crates ruined so many aspects of the game, caravans are dead. and tension while pveing is dead because no cc on noncombatants

flat furnace
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I still don't understand how such a good easy idea (roaming lawless zones) got wasted and messed up so badly with poor planning. Why bother putting them in at all if they just rotate around level 10-15 zones?

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The only one that makes sense is gravepeak

winged kettle
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youre right the flagging changes they made are somehow less intuitive than before

winged kettle
# flat furnace The only one that makes sense is gravepeak

they killed gravepeak, there is no item worth going there for anymore except maybe ill omens recipe + boss mat. (this is the trend with every poi that doesnt drop emblems atm tho, still annoyed what they did to the 3moon hat (it was pure steeze)

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fair honestly, pvpers are just after crumbs at this point. it probably is a bad change like you say, BUT IM HUNGRY

wicked bone
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Does Aibbon realize he is referring to himself? 😭

flat furnace
polar veldt
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This game is made off the bones of Archeage and lineage 2.. it’s gonna have a somewhat hardcore PvP aspect to it

winged kettle
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tHE Thing is though, pvpers in this game engage with all aspects of the game, gathering/crafting/pve because it how u stay competitive. i dont see the pve minded people engage even half as heavily as those who enjoy pvp

polar veldt
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Without a real focus on PvP this game is DOA

flat furnace
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There is a giant PvP focused event about to launch in 2 weeks.....well scheduled to launch in 2 weeks

polar veldt
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Not an event. It needs to be ingrained in most of the core systems

winged kettle
polar veldt
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Right now the game is a crafting simulation with weird forced PvP interactions and very little incentive to do anything but. It’s not good

flat furnace
wicked bone
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They just need to add node destruction, guild wars and actual pvp areas like jundark and deserts

winged kettle
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potentially yeah, but noone asked for pvp lawless rotating zones it was a response to how much players liked jundark lawless. it was not really what the community was asking for. i wouldnt credit the feedback of pvpers to the change but rather a misunderstadning of what was fun about jundark

wicked bone
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That will be enough to keep a pvp loop going for a while, if they rely too much on expansions and events for giving out pvp, it will follow the same fate as new world after every expansion

winged kettle
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yeah agree, we are saying very similar things then

wicked bone
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Pvp players play for pride, to gain and lose things and be the best. Just make a loop where u gain and lose and thats all it needs to be. Currently there is nothing like that

winged kettle
rough silo
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PvPers killed this game

latent ravine
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Still feels like when Amazon decided to make pvp flaggable. Was the worst decision they ever made. In a long line of worst evers.

Make the immediate starting areas and so e home fronts pve, or put all the valuable resources in a frontier zone with 100% pop. Its a shit show anyway ypu cut it cause of all the qq. The flagging, corruption lawless will in the end make or break this game on release.

rough silo
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Crafters and Gatherers need to do everything in safety with no risk unless they accept to do it so.

winged kettle
polar veldt
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They needed to do a 3/4 day split instead of 7

latent ravine
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Sorry, on a phone. Bad spelling and grammar. But daoc did it best. Archage probably even better.

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It worked for eve. Scarcity was great.

drifting herald
hushed grove
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henyaPointL ASMON CHAN

lost lintel
summer willow
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LF Nodes 3

winged kettle
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how is it meant to work with t4 settlements, is node death post sieges meant to kill buildings or to delevel it aswell

dense minnow
cyan violet
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Hope and cope is like a rope-a-dope. Doom and gloom sounds like you go boom.

wide igloo
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They were extremely transparent with their move to UE5 and had numerous monthly streams covering it. Unfortunately it did set back their progress massively

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For sure. I'd assume they didn't fully grasp what they were in for in the transition. But that's arguably untrue to a degree.

They lost some good staff in the transition and that signals at least some in the studio were well aware of how much of a reset button was being pushed.

dense minnow
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I'd say the restart with the transition to UE5 was more of an opportunity to them than a necessity. They saw the relative success and hype of A1 and an opportunity to make things higher quality with UE5 and went for it. A port from UE4 to UE5 doesn't necessarily mean starting from scratch, if they wanted they could've kept a lot from before

weak robin
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UE5 better for longevity

topaz void
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We had castle sieges in A1 on ue4 ;-;

polar veldt
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Not saying this is accurate but it felt like communication was just a lot better in general beforehand. We’re in this weird limbo and kinda in the dark it feels like now. Don’t know where we are going and why..

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2 steps forward, 5 back. For no reason that’s explained just.. here and we’ll cya on the next livestream, to talk about what’s coming in 3 months lol

rough silo
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The more communication = more demands/told ya so moments.

polar veldt
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Yeah but they need to get over that. A few loud yappers should not hinder your communication to your base. Thats a lame excuse

rough silo
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imo communication right now is good, there is radio silent when something big is coming up, the "what you guys think about a fresh server" shit was what killed for me.

polar veldt
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You think communication is good right now? Are we playing the same test

rough silo
polar veldt
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But back and forth is communication lol

rough silo
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The more they give or the more they try to satiate people need for information worse the outcome gets.

polar veldt
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Why run a live 24/7 test if you don’t wanna deal with your base for weeks into months at a time while nothing works properly

polar veldt
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Yeah? I wonder how it’s working out for them lol

rough silo
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Am still inclined for closing open development and let it cook for a year...

polar veldt
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You can’t treat live tests the way they have so far in phase 3 and have longevity for any real solid data. It’s beyond crazy for people to have faith with that attitude

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And the results speak for themselves. Look at the servers

rough silo
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Server state is a domino effect of shit every 2 weeks.

polar veldt
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There lack of communication along with urgency to attend to there live test is what it is

rough silo
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My investment doesn't come talking in discord or watching every move they make, we aren't getting paid to give deep analyses or how things should be done, see the project progress and how it leads and handles the obstacles ahead.

polar veldt
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Yeah but that’s not what we’re talking about really lol

rough silo
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It what it always leads to this kind of conversation really, am going back to the game.

stable rose
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To be honest, bam is right. The minimal communication is great because it means they're crunching time to get things done. I just hope the devs are leaving enough time for themselves and family. Especially leading up to Christmas

grizzled magnet
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it has become abundantly clear that they have no idea which direction to head in

gusty quail
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Questing & storyline would have more folx logging in, though short term as content runs out. PVP is always there in whatever state the game is, profs/econ have a long ways to go. The focus on backend makes sense, leaving those still churning the hours ingame to have faith that it'll be the game we've been anticipating all these years.

gusty quail
pastel tusk
drifting herald
fresh cliff
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yea god damn casuals crying for the wrong fixes. and this is what happens.
I get casuals prob make up 95% of the player base, but don't build the game around them. zzzzz

pastel tusk
# fresh cliff yea god damn casuals crying for the wrong fixes. and this is what happens. I ge...

If anything I want casuals. They took out the New player Experience learning curve which was pvp after level 5 even amongst the low level PoI's. It allowed for organic growth of knowledge from a pvp and pve perspective all the way to level 25. Less travel time from lions hold or wherever to non raid PoI's, organic growth and understanding of pve enemies and pvp scenarios, it also lead to understanding the environments that other classes might thrive in early on.

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By catering to crybabies who want free pve, they've made the game boring in the "pvx" design. Now some people are level 25 without having to pvp at all.

grand lily
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I’d say you can play the whole game while avoiding PvP if you want to currently. You would miss out on caravans and like 6 islands in the tropics that have no special resources on them. Basically no economic loss by avoiding it. If anything it’s more efficient to not PvP ever

pseudo echo
pastel tusk
drifting herald
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Lunch at the Crockett hotel

drifting herald
flat furnace
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I think you showed up at the wrong spot. That is the Crockett hotel hmmwalkaway_otter

cyan violet
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fervent hound
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@void scarab Rip Dunhold

flat furnace
polar veldt
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What happened to the dwarfs!

drifting herald
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Nothing

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They chilling

violet holly
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no it's RIP Dunhold, discord got deleted

quiet swift
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Dwarven holds rise and fall and rise again, whatever Elvin witch magic has befallen Dunhold we hope they rally against its touch.

drifting herald
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That doesn’t mean rip lol

violet holly
drifting herald
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The game can fresh start a server, why not the GM of a guild ! I see no issue ! Sometimes you gotta fix shits that’s broke doesn’t mean it’s dead lol

violet holly
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So deleting a discord with hundreds of people in it doesn't mean the guild is dead? It's a literal purge

drifting herald
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Nope not really , if the goal is to remove problems and that’s the easiest way to , idk just my two cents

violet holly
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If he starts a new discord he's starting completely from scratch. LMAO REMOVE PROBLEMS BY DELETING THE ENTIRE DISCORD AND EVERYBODY IN IT??? THAT'S CALLED NUKE EVERYTHING AND START FROM SCRATCH. DUNHOLD IS GONE IN EVERY WAY EXCEPT NAME

fervent hound
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Yeah so anyway rip dunhold

drifting herald
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Yall feel free to think whatever , everyone is entitled to speculate or inquire , you do you

fervent hound
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@warped mural @quiet swift congrats on being the stronger dwarfs

violet holly
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I've dedicated 5 years of my life to Dunhold Mara. I was there since August 2020. It's gone

quiet swift
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No need to congratulate Mithril Warhammers, we've existed for over three decades, we take no comfort in friends drama

marble sky
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Whoa dwarf drama 😁

drifting herald
violet holly
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I'm Argem Mara

drifting herald
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Ah the name is fucking me up

violet holly
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I get it, I literally put in 5 years of my life to the guild and I had to step away for a time to breath. It's just a testing phase, I don't need to play it 24/7

drifting herald
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Well , I can confidently say idk about any of that , what I can spectate about is that it’s not dead, it’ll rise from the ashes !

violet holly
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IF he restarts the guild, he's starting from scratch. idk if anyone at all who was in Dunhold is going to ever join back. Not after this

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You can still see the tag on some people here and there