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polar veldt
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lol Sadly your right

wraith lantern
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We are stress testing
We are glorified.

bright prism
polar veldt
wraith lantern
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Mine third

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Hey we should all grab a beer at the tavern in winstead!

polar veldt
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I think its bugged-

wraith lantern
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Oh the beer recipe isnt in the game yet. Just edit to get around the timer?1 message frees you allit is quite liberatting. Anarchy. But does the tavern even exist?

bright prism
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lol, and now slowmod is turned up because why?

polar veldt
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Usually this is the only channel you say whatever with sombody spamming a mod after you

bright prism
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You have been banned Because stevens feelings got hurt yet again

polar veldt
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wtf you gonna do right.

flat furnace
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It's been on since day 1 so I'm not sure what you mean by on now

bright prism
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it just got turned up- was 10 seconds jumped to 30
I may be a bit delusional tho

wraith lantern
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No we are saying that they do this based on messages coming in when i feel like we are getting along now and on the same page. But if you edit it will just add to the message and keep going. Here let me show you. Is this an exploit or a feature? Do i put supple or polar by name? At this rate we just have everyone have 1 message and about 45 paragraphs

polar veldt
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lmao

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it was hot in here last night.

bright prism
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its an exploit- quick join polar so you dont get banned

vagrant pendant
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You were moved “You’re going to be banned for 24 hours if you keep talking to mods that way.”

bright prism
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oh i missed it- ive been trying to start staying away from this game as it crashes and burns

wraith lantern
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Mods? Wait he has employees? That make a game? Stop it. He has artist that can paint with the colors of the rainbow. Just around the river bend!

polar veldt
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yeah i asked a mod why i was being silenced. TIMEOUT-

bright prism
polar veldt
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Oh well they mostly dont bother ya in here so

timber oliveBOT
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bright prism
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it was my own. its ok- they can all see what you sent me im not worried about my privacy on this manner-

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wild.

rough silo
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This chat is too calm, double it and give to the next person.

polar veldt
bright prism
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too calmim getting silenced for posting a screenshot

scarlet pier
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Lead economist is literally not a role any MMO has ever had. It’s basically a Manchurian candidate. Someone to blame that doesn’t exist.

bright prism
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yeah im with you- so why is it here? But also, is economy something we should be testing in Early alpha this hard, or would it be better when the game has fully implemented systems, things working, and starting to gear up for release?

polar veldt
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Problem is with a live test like this, its just tied into all progression.

bright prism
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yeah

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progression that is capped at half of what is max level and restricted heavily so things cant be tested.

polar veldt
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it would be nice to have a better baseline. TEST FOR MONTHS over and over on the PTR and slowly implement little changes

rough silo
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Remove gold lets barter.

polar veldt
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But the baseline is fucked 23934839x over right now for alot of reasons so

rough silo
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WTT 10 Lego Sand for 1 Lego Copper

polar veldt
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P3 is my eyes ( and im wrong on this btw) was more for really testing this stuff and monitoring more complete systems etc etc. It feels like they are just winging that and purely worried about dumping new content etc so

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Which is fine.. but that stuff screams PTR. Not a live test like we have now 24/7

rough silo
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Too much hope/expectation.

polar veldt
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100%. I thought they were further along than they appear to be

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Keyword Appear*

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This game feels 3-4 years out. Except they are advertising now to show all the new people what this game is really gonna look like... Makes very little sense to me

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rugged apex
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I think there will be fresh server in Nov with the advertising push.

mental tusk
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Uhm… I don’t the ban was removed it just seemed like a temp ban o.o could be wrong but like… perm bans aren’t the only bans

hazy light
hallow hare
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lol

novel turret
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fresh copers denied

earnest garden
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Almost like wiping doesnt make sense without new things being tested.

versed fulcrum
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Or current rampant exploits that are the cause of a broken economy being closed.

rugged apex
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Which everyone will play and the old server with 2000 gold items well be essentially meaningless

inland crater
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Dang that’s a rare drop lucky guy got a whole set at epic

rugged apex
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Yooooo I was never banned you just made that up in your little brain. When reality hit you started crying like a child. Log off the game

inland crater
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I think they won’t Fresh or wipe in November (econ shit is still broken) but they’ll probably do it before the end of the year or shortly after New Years

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i just don’t want another wipe scenario where Intrepid disappears for 2 weeks right after it starts so early Jan is the best time IMO

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# inland crater I think they won’t Fresh or wipe in November (econ shit is still broken) but the...

I mean they could delay it for sure but the plan is Nov and based on them actually getting work done and actually testing shit it seems like they are locked in.

Steven has been silent which mean he wants the work to speak for itself.

Money is on the line in Nov with the advertising/skins push which to me means the investors want to see proof of income.

Intrepid is done fucking around or tbh the game could be done with and investors could pull the plug.

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inland crater
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I mean wouldn’t they start advertising now? Quite possibly they push this whole advertising timeline back a bit, I haven’t seen/heard of any ads yet

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stable rose
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just gotta let them fix rarity (theyre doing), known dupes, caravans taking more than intended (if they haven't already). also letting them test harbingers in a broken server economy state would actually provide more info for the current end game gear than straight starting fresh.

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if end game gear is struggling then theres no way stater gear would have a chance, = tweaking in to fresh

grizzled magnet
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the gearing is beyond dogshit at the moment. If it was as simple as p2 then a wipe would be fantastic

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inland crater
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Up until the end the performance was great yeah. Defense was spawning into a lag zone with 10-20 people rubber banded into the shadow realm

grizzled magnet
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they replaced reviving on the spot with reviving in purgatory

shrewd edge
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Petition to move defense respawn slightly further! Those guards man lol

fresh cliff
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I play on a flip phone and had minimum issues at siege last night. Great fucking job dev team! Huge step in right direction

grizzled magnet
shrewd edge
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Yeah some of the terrain had some questionable placements.

grizzled magnet
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I think it was automatically generated

fresh cliff
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Remove guards near points and make them untargetable

shrewd edge
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Rogues and caltrops developed a hate hate relationship with the guards lol

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But overall the performance was ages better than any other siege so far.

fresh cliff
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I have a guard following us in almost every clip I have from once we got inside the city

grizzled magnet
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t3 towns are much more fun to attack/defend imo

hazy light
grizzled magnet
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no he isn't lol

novel turret
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I spent time in purgatory and also had a separate issue of 10 mins where my hp drained full to 0 nonstop

Doesnt take away from it being a step forward performance wise

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Though the best overall i think was the mira defense on lyneth hosted by intrepid

(Victory led by yours truly 😉 )

wicked bone
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The siege yesterday was really fun

hazy light
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There is no reason to delay Harbingers content if they are on schedule however they should delay marketing to next milestone and actually start marketing 3 werks before next milestone with a fresh....

wicked bone
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OT finish, down to the wire, and good ZvZ fights all around

fresh cliff
warped mural
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In my opinion

drifting herald
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opinions are like buttholes , everyone has one and they all .......?

warped mural
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Are beautiful

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hasty gyro
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cyan violet
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foggy zealot
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im back phew that was a long timeout

drifting herald
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lol

versed fulcrum
earnest garden
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One can dream

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foggy zealot
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not sure i made a joke in the ptr chat about someone not having hands (wasnt really a joke but)

calm saddle
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Also idk how close you are but Unknown might have a partial point, timeouts are eventually permas

foggy zealot
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last two have been 7 days

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ive learned my lesson though i will no longer make jokes

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OMEGALUL yeah better to caution on the safe side, mods seem to figure out "problematic" individuals and then consistently target them more often

foggy zealot
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wdym undesirables?

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brittle bramble
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foggy zealot
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last siege was insane boys fights lately have been fun af i know the games not in the best state its ever been but i cant imagine missing this shit

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novel turret
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what the actual fk is dusty talking about right now

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scarlet pier
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Ahh yes the ole get wiped 10 times before the score counts, go hide at the top of carph and start talking...

novel turret
scarlet pier
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Uhuh you just got wiped after EBC had to go to bed

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Also...why the fuck is there slowmode in this channel?

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novel turret
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they hiding 😴

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weak robin
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Im confused, watched dustys vod and his whole raid was in carphin? yet no pvp was happening? emberspring kills? or?

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Granted, its your guild, you're gonna support it, I get that. But supporting it doesn't mean not owning up to what's unreasonable, or is it that you've got policies in place that require you to not say anything bad? Iunno. I think ur a decent one, even now

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# hasty gyro Owning up to what

Are we gonna pretend people in your guild haven't contributed to exploit abuse? To condoning issues? To being reset? To advocating for greater toxicity? To baiting reactions?

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You're one of the cool ones too Coot, are you gonna pretend Polar ain't guilty of being shitters? Some shitters like Godchii are gone but that doesn't get rid of all of them or the problem

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I'm not so dumb as to pretend that Polar is the root of all evils in AoC and needs to be wiped off the map, because that's just silly, they're top dogs, people are gonna be more critical and more antagonistic in the first place. But Polar has abused certain issues, and has earned anger in various cases, and pretending they haven't is crazy.

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I'll do a debate but if we're gonna just troll I'mma afk just so ya'll are aware

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#na-arena-of-words message
i mean i will own up to when polar has been dicks like here. but i also know what is going on behind the scenes and when polar is getting the shaft because devs dont want to own up to their mistakes and push the blame off to someone who just plays the game smart.
for example: making a 24 slot van had precedent from previous phases, took a long time to make, and seemed reasonable for that point in the game/ resource cost.
or carphin being the same since phase 1, but now its polars fault for getting gear from there at the start of this phase because we are able to push people out of there in a PVX game.

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# brittle bramble https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1418307394592833636/142993596259...

Read, but you mentioned 24 slot vans. If I understand that correctly, that involves Tim, yeah? I'm not inclined to believe him. But I'm gonna take the benefit of the doubt and believe him, that he did warn Intrepid what was going on, that he did inform them correctly of how much money he was making. Why would they delete Tms character based off public opinion if Polar has had case in the past for taking advantage of exploits? I'm not saying I don't believe Tm; I don't, in truth, but not entirely. He had good receipts, but I'm not inclined to believe that its the whole story.

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There's also circumstance like, for example, the original node war decs in P2.5(P2? I forget), where it gave rewards, and Polar was declaring on EVERYONE. Come on, guys. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this isn't intentional...and Polar was still doing it anyways. Who was the competition? Nova Ordem? Its an alpha. Why does it matter? Do you really need this to make the difference? Its the intention at the same time.

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People in here bait all the time for reactions, its the ones who take the bait that are always mad about it.

As for exploiting you can claim shit happened in the past idc, i wasn't here. Think anyone with a brain can see the way the crates and carphin was handled this phase was purely dev incompetency. Guild combined making 900g is wipe/rollback/reset worthy but not the EU guilds making vastly more than us during the same reset window? Not the countless people duping crates at the moment? Not literally the entire server running around in bugged lvl 29 armor for physical players? I mean the devs rolled back cause level 10 items were on a vendor for fuck sake. I just want consistency from them and their CS department, punish me if they have to but god damn please punish the other people "abusing" the same systems if not worse abuses.

Margaret herself claimed 24 slot vans were exploits which they just aren't. There was a clear and obvious trade off to using them vs using a willow or different wood. I can carry a lot of crates but guess what? I have worse defense than starting caravans minus having some HP. (As seen in the video of Supple killing TMs van). It died in under 2 minutes with less than 15 of them there for majority of the time.

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And I haven't even mentioned Lexi yet, who used to bait reactions and bullshit all the time, and that does nothing to condone or induce a better environment

hasty gyro
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For reference: I got a warning and all I turned in was a ticket crate. A TICKET CRATE. AND IT WAS WORTH THE SAME AMOUNT OF TICKETS

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That is a targetted warning because of my guild tag

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# hasty gyro People in here bait all the time for reactions, its the ones who take the bait t...

"People in here bait all the time" right but you guys are already under scrutiny and controversy so where's the logic or merit in baiting more, I mean, use your heads, its not going to end well, and if you can't do that, police your members...that's not a lot to ask for, and I can say that as a former member(I say former because we aren't playing anytime soon) of a 400+ man guild who strictly enforced comms discipline on their guild members.

Carphin was handled poorly, I agree, but the way it was handled by Polar in turn was also poor, and it just made Polar look worse ultimately. Idk much about what's going on EU and I won't pretend to do so. I can't comment on the rest either, because I didn't play, because fuck current AoC lmao.

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My alt account turned in 3 crates that were already pre stored at KT and sold for a COMBINED 80g and it got nuked. BUT IM WATCHING PEOPLE ON EU IN THE SAME WINDOW TURN IN THOUSANDS OF GOLD WORTH OF CRATES AND NOT GET TOUCHED

hasty gyro
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(again, i just want consistency from the devs and CS team, smack us on the wrist w/e, smack all the people doing the same shit tho)

brittle bramble
# calm saddle "People in here bait all the time" right but you guys are already under scrutiny...

nah, the only thing that made it look worse was like 5 people in this discord malding over the fact they were behind, so they wanted us banned/ deny us content.

the anti-polar propaganda was strong with a whiff of controversy caused by bad dev choices.

and its a couple people that really bait the drama on more, but they have fun with it and if people cant smell the trolls in here thats really on them

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# hasty gyro How did we handle Carphin wrong? We took it on the chin, bitched a little and mo...

You handled Carphin wrong by making a Reddit post about it and letting Godchii say anything about it. Its been an issue since A1(iirc), and I recognize that, and understand it, and am fully on board with that. Deleting everyone's gear was wrong and fucked, no doubt about it. But some Polar guys did it to try and int Supple for some reason, or people pretending to be Polar on Reddit did it, and it backfired. That's what I mean.

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# calm saddle I'mma be real what does commenting on EU have to do with what we're talking abou...

Commenting on EU because they were "abusing" 24 slot vans long before we were and to a larger degree. It is relevant because a company that wants to succeed can't show bias one way or another and as much as people complain Polar is "favored" with Steven we are targetted with more warnings and pushback than anyone else purely because we were dominating the server and the rule of the mob was screaming for blood.

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south lynx
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This conversation has gotten too civilized, please someone insult me before continuing. Thank you.

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https://youtu.be/Vwy7wNjr5D0?si=HfkaeubEISZuPHR4

someone reported us for “bugging” Tumok with a 20 second clip of the end of this 30min fight and intrepid cs suspended us for 7 days with zero investigation. Cs for intrepid is awful literally terrible they should all be fired for how poorly they perform.

We got the suspension overturned after one of the few ppl working there not even in cs explained how ridiculous this was.

Intrepid has massive issues large parts of the team don’t understand the game at all.

They thought me using a dragon wood caravan was an exploit XDDDD like what the fuck

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# hasty gyro Commenting on EU because they were "abusing" 24 slot vans long before we were an...

Yes and I saw the proof that Tm posted about timings on ss' and comments with Roshen and I'm inclined to believe that Tm's ban(based off what I saw), was in relation to what I saw but...I don't want to believe that because I don't know the entirely full story and I have a hard time believing otherwise because of Polar's past history, do you get where I'm coming from? I'm not saying Tm is lying, not at all, I don't believe he'd fabricate or lie about something like this, but its...harder to take in stride, considering past history, essentially.

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Btw we killed tumok day 3 ??? Our guild was insane this phase can’t blame them for thinking we were cheating

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People here are just too swayed by propaganda by some parties "POLAR MADE 20K GOLD IN 10 MINUTES FROM CRATES" and people actually ran with it because this community is full of people who can't think for themselves. Or that we exploited 1-25 as well lmao. Like we had GMs in ghost mode watching our top 4 squads leveling, I PROMISE YOU IF I RECORDED ALL MY SQUADS COMMS YOU'D KNOW WE WEREN'T EXPLOITING BECAUSE IT WAS MISERABLE

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Tm idk if ur reading my messages but if so, I'm not calling you a liar. I don't like you, but if Intrepid is being bad eggs in regards to ur ban, I'm all for defending you, its just...hard to wrap my mind around defending you due to past history. And yes, Coot here, and others, can attest, that I have openly defended Polar for the Carphin shit and been called a Polar alt because of it lmao

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TM isn't banned nor is anyone in Polar been banned. Few people got wiped and that was it. We just chose to take a break because that wasn't the first time we were targeted by CS for testing their game. Grapply even got suspended last phase for reporting a bug. His literal CS response to reporting the bug was a ban OMEGALUL

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90% of an mmo community are surface level and read what they see and some Polar guys are here (almost) openly BRAGGING about how great they are and barely denying what are considered exploits lmao

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# calm saddle Tm idk if ur reading my messages but if so, I'm not calling you a liar. I don't ...

so if you wana claim the p2 guild war spams were "exploiting" can you actual explain that thought process.
as someone who wasnt even in the guild at that time this accusation has never made sense to me.
like if you are going to pvp that many people you have to either 1) have better players, or 2) have way more players.
either way you have to earn your victories. its not like they spammed against 1 alt guild who would give up. they were killing everyone on the server. seems very PVX to me. they were using a PVP system to get PVE rewards. this makes sense and im really confused how people thought this was an exploit.

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I'm not gonna do Intrepid's/CS's job for them but imma just say they need to not be so personally invested in their characters and what happens to them in game 👍 We pissed in some CS teams cheerios one day whenever and they've been gunning for us ever since. I harbor no ill will towards a single person or guild in the game because end of the day its a game and if I ain't got no opps to spin the block on then there's not point in playing but some people take shit too far and the moment IRL stuff is brought up I want nothing to do with you. Their response to doxxing my guildies with alt names in the siege might be one of the most piss poor CS jobs I've seen from a company

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# calm saddle Tm idk if ur reading my messages but if so, I'm not calling you a liar. I don't ...

I think most exploiting shit polar got blamed for was envious. I mean ppl say the war spam in p2 but that was a passed over system by intrepid that was fixed and balanced. We even asked a dev if it was ok and he said it was fine. Another situation where intrepid fucks up community goes crazy and instead of intrepid saying they fucked up balance they blame w/e guild they can to please the community

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# brittle bramble so if you wana claim the p2 guild war spams were "exploiting" can you actual exp...

sigh, did you see some of the wins? People just surrendering because they didn't wanna fight, or didn't have the bodies. Come on Lakkez, it was an alpha. Who wants to fight all the time? There's no way Polar couldn't realize it wasn't as intended. And they declared war on everyone? Unless I'm mistaken, or people were fabricating, or lying, it was Polar declaring war on random fucking guilds, just to get more rewards lol.

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Something a community council with prominent figures from the HC guilds all the way down to the RPers and crafters to have a clear line of communication with devs would fix but alas FeelsOkayMan

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brittle bramble
# calm saddle sigh, did you see some of the wins? People just surrendering because they didn't...

i mean thats on those guys for being a whimp. not because polar is exploiting. fighting is literally the point of the game.
the whole game culminates in nothing but systems that require pvp. this is good imo and what is going to make this game great.
harbingers, pvp.
caravans, pvp
castles, pvp
seiges, pvp
guild wars, pvp
lawless zone farming (where the best mats, recipes will be), pvp
fishing, in the open water, pvp

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# hasty gyro I'm not gonna do Intrepid's/CS's job for them but imma just say they need to not...

Absolutely no shot that's all that it is and I think you're on copium if you believe otherwise. Polar's done dumb shit in the past, has done dumb shit several phases, and continues doing dumb shit. Part of becoming a professional, high end, hardcore guild is policing ur boys. Mav used to be a lot more toxic, and became better imo(I'm surprised he got better), but also about presenting a better face. Being a top guild isn't just about flexxing ur e-peen on everyone, its about being on top without rubbing it in people's faces, iunno.

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winged kettle
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Dev just rollbacking and banning on whims and community sentiment (anyone with eyes can see this)

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it will get better im sure but this phase was handled badly, also margret coming in here talking about fresh is WEIRD

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# rugged apex I think most exploiting shit polar got blamed for was envious. I mean ppl say th...

In P2 yeah. In p2.5, I don't think Polar did much, just were douches. In 3.0, most of Enveus' ex pvp members were in Polar, and iunno man, like, was Grapply actually reset a lot, fr, or was that the community just memeing? Also, if a dev said all the wars were fine....why wasn't that ss passed around like crazy? Also, after you got character wiped, why wasn't that line of ss' passed around by every Polar yapper initially? Iunno. I think its partially ur own guys that help give you all a bad rep.

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# calm saddle Absolutely no shot that's all that it is and I think you're on <:copium:10106133...

Believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I feel to be true shruggy We are generally civil with most people that interact with us but if you get caught in the crossfire of a lawless area/war/siege etc than that's just part of being in a PvX game. Also people who've dragged my name/guilds name/guildies through mud why would they be entitled to me being kind to them in return? I'm rarely toxic to people because it get's me nothing but I also don''t forget easily either.

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I'm not personally against what Aura did in regards to the siege denial, it was a statement, but it shouldn't of been necessary either.

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Whether it constitutes it or not its weird freak behavior. Call someone dog shit, say they cant shot call, i genuinely don't care what someone says about my gameplay but bringing up irl shit is so insanely freak behavior that I instantly think of them as sub humans

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damn I even blocked the word and it got chat deleted lmao

brittle bramble
# calm saddle "even if what your saying is true" I know ur inclined to believe 99% of what pe...

but its what i dont get.
how is someone else quiting a core aspect of the game an exploit by the guild trying to play the whole game.
liek i said wasnt in the guild at the time, but i still really do not understand why its an exploit.
they stil had to EARN the wins to get the rewards. and even now when you can only do 3 with a CD, that seems like mroe than enough of a balance, so why arent the rewards back on?
imo the reason is because IS doesnt know how to balance this shit, and blaming polar for what happened 2 wipes ago is a scapegoat they are allowing to happen

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And not "yeah ur fat irl, you get no btches" not counting that, mentioning names/jobs/places you live etc is where im like yeah this person needs rehabilitated

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LMAO then get better shit talk, its not hard. The moment you bring up IRL stuff you lost the argument imo

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Yeah i never played eastern slop smug so a community like this is def a wake up call

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misty spire
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Its always fun seeing the community fall for polar propaganda spread by polar themselves

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Streamer guild piping up yikes

hasty gyro
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Ahh division in the cats

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hasty gyro
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It's always the guilds you try and save that speak up Classic

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hasty gyro
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Where's Thunder at, didnt he put belt to ass against Cats today

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hasty gyro
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Wait Cats beats OCE, Vice beats Cats. Does that mean VICE > OCEHUHW

misty spire
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Dog im lost in the virtual beef

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brittle bramble
# calm saddle Because you're deccing on guilds that clearly can't, and won't, fight in the fir...

imo here are 2 reasons why its not.

  1. they signed up to be in that sort of pvp gameplay when they joined a guild. they might not have known all of the ramifications at the moment. and people still complain about that now with node wars complaining they are dying.sorry, these are the consequences of your choices. now you know what is at stake maybe make better choices in the future. and take care of whre you become a citizen/ what guild you join because the PVX will happen.
  2. a parallel in game. is it an exploit to kill level 20 mobs? you out level and out gear them. they give rewards. killing things, wether its easy or not for a reward is just playing the game. like if your lvl 25 farming steelbloom is it an exploit? not imo, you are still working for it in game.

it would be different if it was something like the insta-spawning horse at the start of last phase that people exploited. like if polar was just decing an alt guild and giving up on repeat, i could 100% understand that as an exploit. but it wasnt. it was against people outside of themselves

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I assumed VICE would be good months into the server purely from their econ dominating early just from gear advantage, not counting improving on their skill

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Couldnt econ without seeing VICE

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# brittle bramble imo here are 2 reasons why its not. 1) they signed up to be in that sort of pvp ...

"They signed up to be in that sort of pvp gameplay when they joined a guild." BROTHER this is copium of the HIGHEST degree for the actual decs on random ass fucking guilds.

Your second point has merit, I don't disagree. See some weak mfker? Easy wins, but even so...are you really deccing on that random Outcasts Alliances guild with 2 people and one of them, the guy you saw, is level 20, without reason? Oh wait, your reason is the war decs....okay, so you kill him and get rewards. Would you of decced otherwise? Probably fucking not. He's a 2 man guild. The chances of you not outfarming him are nonexistent. The chances of you farming without a stack are nonexistent. MonkaS

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# hasty gyro

do you want me to count the bodies I see in this screen because it looks like 10 on Supple's side angeryBOYE

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deff the most fun i had this phase was that war.

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GODS I AM GETTING POST DELETED SO FAST NOW THE MODBOT IS TOO GOOD kinda respectable but I hate it

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The servers aint the same without polar sadge

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medal gonna make me yell bad phrases if it doesn't montage this shit

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Unknown is TM's alt PI account Classic

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# hasty gyro

I don’t think we’ve ever lost to polar when I was there. All supples losses seem to be when I’m not there 🤔

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# calm saddle "They signed up to be in that sort of pvp gameplay when they joined a guild." BR...

ok i 100% understand how you think its cope, but is it wrong?
when people sign up for a guild/citizenship. do they understand the actual risk they are taking for the reward of being with people and getting guild perks with the talent tree?
i dont think people still understand that they are signing up to be in PVP events when they make the choice to sign up, they just see the reward, not the risk. and there is nothing in this game that should reward you without a risk.

and also, sample size of 1 here, i was in a small guild at the time everyone is saying polar was targeting small guilds. i never got targeted, and i was in proximity to polar a lot, just because good people find good farms and i would farm near them. so i still dont believe they were just targeting small guilds for the rewards

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Eventually at this rate ill have to remake that for p2.5 or 3 depending how harb goes

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I've spent 4 hrs editing my feedback document all for it to get 3 upvotes and a clown emoji lebronJAM

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Purple names piping up once again but, even so, I will visit your freehold on launch, mr Unknown, if only for the respect of your time here, salute

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It is sure to be a fun ride. I got all the toys to make it into a Sugarland themepark.

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Unknown gonna roll a nat 20 at the launch party

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tl;dr to what I started above, I mean, is it wrong? Iunno. That's debatable. Considering the circumtance surrounding it? I think it is. Why are you deccing on tiny, insignificant guilds, other then the rewards? Like I said, there's merit to be discussed in regards to defending your grind spot, but outside of that....bruh? I don't see the merit. Am I missing something? A clue? A detail? What is wrong here? What am I missing? That's the thing, I don't think I'm missing anything. Just because you never got warred on by Polar doesn't mean what happened didn't happen, that's again, imo, copium logic

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Lol, Steven is hosting. Was always planned to be in Vegas. Those at the 10k tier even have their rooms comped at a specific resort. DA got nothing to do with it.

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Based I'm still showing up then

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Hey, as long as you got an invite or a +1. You think after the problems they have had with irl stalkers and threats that there won't be security, you Emiru at Twitchcon.

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# calm saddle tl;dr to what I started above, I mean, is it wrong? Iunno. That's debatable. Con...

the fact that its debatable to the players should open up some graces to the players from the devs. this goes back to the very beginning. polar got the shaft from devs for a poorly implemented system. especially in an alpha where finding things that require correcting is the whole point.
in 5 years when this game launches will people care about what polar did in the war decs. no, but will the game be better for what they did? absolutly because it caused the devs to work with what the players will do with their systems, not just what the devs think they would do.

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Yep, just checked.

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# versed fulcrum Yep, just checked.

well until I'm told otherwise I can upgrade whenever and if I'm not told very clearly beforehand with very clear pings then I'll bitch up a storm if I can't upgrade and will upgrade again before launch party 02happy

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Yeah, you got plenty of time to upgrade. We asked just a bit ago and the plans for removing the ability to upgrade are still as stated. Will give plenty of notice before they remove it, if ever.

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#kickstarterop

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I’ll show up to launch party with my welfare edition fatfuck

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Not my fault I was a kid with no disposable income when they were selling 6757_Sadge

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Was reading a Reddit post yesterday about some Russian who big mad because they denied his PI after he tried changing the name on the account. He didn't even do a good job trying to cover his tracks for his bought account. And still had a history here where he had originally a website package, and then "magically remembered" he had a KS and tried to change it. Some peoples grey market skills are weak.

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I was too busy doing Spanish 3 my freshman year of HS to think about a new MMO Madge

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If its not obvious to you, then maybe you shouldn't be testing an alpha, iunno

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I think it is just chef's kiss that people can't help themselves with shitter behavior. They work against their own interests. Which is great. They keep exposing things Intrepid will then fix. So everyone is winning. Cept of course those mad that their unlimited deccs and others are now closed.

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global was actually always funny af during wars watching these clips kinda made me remember

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Speaking of winning. Time to go give chocolate to my girls. It is Halloween week at school, and time to have them go classroom trick or treating. Have fun with da reee. If they crying, you winning.

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why are you all having such an in depth conversation in here? Server is deaded. let us sleep.

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I was doom scrolling in bed till this made me get up to my PC

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Angelcry, get fucked. You smell funny. (that better?)

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Jamming to Yeat while i edit clips and my feedback post vibing

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# calm saddle If its not obvious to you, then maybe you shouldn't be testing an alpha, iunno

very little in this alpha has been obvious. the discussion of actual important things between players and dev is nonexistant. that is my #1 biggest gripe atm. but no we get a livestream where we get some concept art and steven saying everything is ok. like the Q&A sections have been ASS imo with no real discussion to the current players. they feel all aimed at getting new players, with very little regard to the people here trying shit out.
getting 0 feedback on my bug reports, and having the same concerns for 2 phases in a row is really fuckin annoying. like bugged mobs in a way that seem OP (for example a cone attack in front of them visually hits you everywhere even if your behind the mob) like i have so many bug reports its insane. of the PTR firbrand with 0 of the input from the previous phases, gets pushed through PTR back to live jsut to be put back on PTR, WITH THE SAME PROBLEMS.

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@calm saddle https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1299155791609069659/1332084509344272466/image.png?ex=68ffd5df&is=68fe845f&hm=f76fd7ed80112f51654cc3389177491954e44d1600ef69955332ffac24c6677f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

we even confirmed with a dev. Intrepid just refuses to admit anything is their fault and the community cant see past hating us so in turn they let intrepid off the hook for dog shit balancing and systems. Well now polar isnt playing the game and guess what the systems and balancing are still dog shit.

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spoiler alert: they did xdd

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we never war traded. we specifically only targeted new guilds. we never warred the same guild twice. the moment steven said it was "broken" we didnt war again. Still got our characters deleted lmfao

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To be fair, there was a lot of war spam during that time. And it wasn't all polar.

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you spammed guild war decs for the rewards, thats exactly the definition of exploiting

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Polar is just the guild that's still alive since then. lol

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I know reading is hard but read the full sentence

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# dense minnow I know reading is hard but read the full sentence

maybe you should try reading whats been talked about. what do you ahve to say to these points i made earlier, or is it just. polar did it, it must be wrong.

  1. they signed up to be in that sort of pvp gameplay when they joined a guild. they might not have known all of the ramifications at the moment. and people still complain about that now with node wars complaining they are dying.sorry, these are the consequences of your choices. now you know what is at stake maybe make better choices in the future. and take care of whre you become a citizen/ what guild you join because the PVX will happen.
  2. a parallel in game. is it an exploit to kill level 20 mobs? you out level and out gear them. they give rewards. killing things, wether its easy or not for a reward is just playing the game. like if your lvl 25 farming steelbloom is it an exploit? not imo, you are still working for it in game.
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cant believe u called us masochists for not having mara blocked when ur talkin the guy that preblocks most people with a tag he doesnt like in discord

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SPEAK @dense minnow what big guild didnt we war you fucking loser tell me? ??????? Tell me you fucking mouth breathing zero iq animal

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ksksk you triggered? you guys didn't spam dec any big guilds, you just spam decced newbies. Don't worry new phase is coming, you'll get the opportunity to get deleted again, no need to mald

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https://youtu.be/lJGgmAaJjzg?si=H3vgf-KERmDjvbRT&t=199

TIME STAMP 3:19 multiple massive guilds we fought while leveling in these decs NISA/DOPAMINE (ALL 3 GUILDS),

Step into the world of Ashes of Creation with POLAR
The #1 hardcore guild redefining dominance across the MMO landscape.
Founded in 2022, POLAR rose to fame with a legacy of NA firsts and world firsts in Classic WoW—and now, we bring that same unstoppable energy to Ashes of Creation.

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you know you can have simultaneously regular war decs because of game reasons and on top of that spam guild decs on small guilds to exploit the reward right? ksksk

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# brittle bramble the real test in the alpha atm is the players patience. and since they arent goi...

"they aren't going to respect my time im not going to partake in the shit show that it is now."
yeah dawgy dawg, I haven't played since p1, not really. Like, yeah, I'm a yapper? But I tested tf out of A0, I tested A1, I tested Apoc. A2 is just....a gigantic waste of time with awful leveling, over and over again. Why would I keep releveling? In an experience I don't like? When none of my friends are playing? Sure I feel bad about not playing, a little, but like...nah, I ain't leveling with pugs, and this shit also sucks. Not a single mmo I've ever played has the leveling experience been relevant or worth it save for, sometimes, a decent story. Not once, not ever.

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btw, if you'll read all my messages might as well unblock me xdd

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# dense minnow you know you can have simultaneously regular war decs because of game reasons an...

you lied multiple times in the few sentences you post and all proven instantly. Stop typing its pathetic and embarrassing. You are a complete dog shitter obsessed with hating a guild you never interacted with. The sheer envy and jealousy you feel over pixels that cause you to spam lies and misinformation is some of the most pathetic behavior ive seen from even a worm like you. Reevaluate your life you shitter freak.

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Blocking is cringe but people will feel the way they feel and occasionally unblock people for what they consider relevant, is what it is

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ksksk I'm jealous of having my characters deleted every phase

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The narrative of what happens in this channel, and the truth debating circle jerk is a completely different perspective of what exists when you're actually playing the game. Not really been my thing this phase.

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Coot the goat tester tbh.

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I do it so we can all enjoy our dream MMO (My wife is tired of hearing about ashes theorycrafting when she wants to watch her murder mysteries )

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pepe_Topkek god, I'm actually laughing. sad.

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Gotta earn my Polar DKP by recruiting Gigachad

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everything needs to be on a vendor, lvling scrolls, gear, mats. respect your players time, and they will actually test the shit you want tested.
instead we get, you need to slow down you leveling its too fast you didnt sleep for 3 days and got there too soon. well now your there, go mine a shit ton of granite because you need a fuckton of zinc/copper for your gear

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well this next phase the casual guilds are gonna have to make a choice. Start discussing the idea of doing politics with polar (the great evil exploiters) or be under the boot of supple who is actually perm cheating (overlays) and mass rmting / indo boosting

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i have to believe a cats group was able to beat supple to 25

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Over 3 phases Axiom has been a leader in government but I havent seen many wars. Although I do respect them showing up to the 8v8 tournaments and performing.

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If sunhaven lvls before duunhold, I might say slurs, ngl.

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A 1v1 just ain't it for the alpha experience. Its realistic asf for say, a lvl 5 node? Between two hardcores, but I think forcing the idea of a third force of the more relaxed players is the play...personally.

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supple + fed is like 300-400 votes.

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@sick oar U NEED TO COME TAKE GENESIS BACK SO FED LOSES VOTING NUMBERS CAUSE THEY CANT FIGHT

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FED + oso peeps + Supple + Aura + the other groups was just cancer coaltion. There was no real shot at good balance, and the content suffered because of it.

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I would kill for a node in the tropics before deep sea fishing. Imagine the boat content.

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but yeh I think Axiom is a very solid neutral force that both sides can honestly agree too overall, no?

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So yeah, voting with Polar was the best counter to that that could win. And did. But I personally have always hated the large coalition angle in this alpha environment. As someone who loves diplo, it's just boring to me.

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I am just waiting for folks to be cool with signing up for the race war I want to have hehehe

What side will you be on.... the dwarves or the elves?!

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If I'm wrong the game's dead, if ur right, that server is dead, so we'll see how it goes

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What they really should do is stop giving quest exp to all riverland nodes and make leveling nodes easier and then node creation/destruction can be an actual gameplay loop all over the world and not just riverlands

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I cover a lot of node stuff in my feedback paper, even mentioned Thoghli and the Dwarves in it PepoG

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Game is kinda meant to be a kingdom game imo.

Big guilds rule a node, smaller guilds take vassals and play for their nodes and vassals.

Its just not there yet.

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I want more comp into the scene, I keep being told XYZ mmo has gigga guilds and Supple was the first to be anything close to competition

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If we get beta 1 we get fire, 'cause I've got so many homies I can and will be able to talk into the game if we get a beta 1 🔥 🔥 🔥

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Speaking of elves... @placid shadow wya?

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I guess I need to make a march down to the riverlands and wake them ninnies up.

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It's okay, one has to go down quite a bit to get to the levels of a dwarf PippaSmug

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# echo mulch Yeah. I just saw the mutual server. I was a part of them and had been defending ...

I thought you were in GS. Nah, I am a longtime RPer, and so want to maintain okay connections with GS for the inevitable launch, but I want to fight more then I want to RP, plus, I don't tend to get along with most public RPers anyways.

When I went back to BDO, I was in a RP/PvP merc guild, the one such guild on the server who had hands, so I'll occasionally dabble with them if circumstances permit.

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Yeah i was in GS until a month into phase 1. Love the RPers. GS was promised to be a fighting guild but I didnt see it much and left.

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Ashes is honestly great RP entry MMO because shit you do in the world legit becomes lore lmao. The wars, diplomacy, etc.

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# echo mulch Ashes is honestly great RP entry MMO because shit you do in the world legit beco...

best mmo documentary is about RPers fighting for their server https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXjGE-lWrt0

'The War For Antica' is a documentary covering two of Tibia’s first world wars from 2003 to 2006, namely the 'Last Action Heroes vs. Alliance' and 'Dark Side vs. Alliance'.

Many thanks to everyone who contributed. :)

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@echo mulch Maybe a lot to ask, but since you were previously in a rp/pvp guild and do have hands, it is the duty of us who like said environments to help condone said environments, so I expect ur help on launch to help breed and occasionally protect individuals 💪

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Lloyd I forgot the video I made for the ashes summit was on my youtube and they changed the music I used Madge

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# hallow hare I seeeeee.

lot of folks prob think we are In character all the time and that is not the case. We are just ready for it to be the case at any time.

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Chads proect RPers, and teach RPers how to fight, and no one will ever convince me otherwise, our casuals who embrace the world fully deserve to do so Chad

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I actually have a video going through last minute edits and working on a series of all the phase 3 leveling, fights, and wars. I hope people like it.

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I like having RP guilds on the server. The diversity of guilds makes it fun.

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# hushed grove <:deus_emote:821953032656125972> <:deus_emote:821953032656125972> <:deus_emote:8...

Nah this ain't even talk, I legit got asked by a group of RPers on pirate island back in bdo to show mercy on them for showing up on our spot. The reason? Their spot got taken by another group on another channel.

So what did I do? I channel hopped, wiped the group by myself(4v1), and gave them their spot back so I didn't have to kill them on my spot. Idgaf, this is my island, we respect RPers who try to better themselves.

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Enjoyed the convos I shall now go bed rot till the melatonin wins the battle dorimecheems

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I LIVED FOR THE FIGHT ON PI RAAAAAHHHH 😤

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Hey folks know, I am down to clown even if we are not geared or lvled. I do it out of principle bc my character will not be dishonorable and run away from the soft skins

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I cant wait until I get to the part in editing where I was RPing people in highwayman hills level 25 with carphin weapons (before removal) for their pants or saying polar on top in exchange for their lives.

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idk man, she doesn't fuck around. I wouldn't mess with her.

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Makes me feel less old OMEGALUL

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Mostly because I was a former member of Enmity, but yeh

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ahhhh. Makes sense. I only remember you being in Mutiny.

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Did a lot of guild hopping back then but tried to stop because I didn't like the rep that came with it

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Guild hoppers are kinda cringe

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The early AoC days most guilds just existed in discord. But somehow still managed to have constant drama.

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All hail AngelCry

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I'm so sad I missed the first guild meeting and mr, "I own a car, " I wish I'd been there holy fuck

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This chat became way too wholesome for shol arena of words.

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# ruby lake sorry, I will leave now

Thoghli youre a big beautiful bitch. I hope you have exuberant amounts of fine ale and mead and wake up to a harem of bearded dwarven women (and men....?)

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Nah I can make this chat toxic immediately if people want, just say the word

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Plane

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I wonder if the NTR song would still be allowed in here henyaAww

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Damn, Tmugsy joining voice for RMT deals in the official discord?

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# ruby lake Woah, that is wild lol

Fuck do you mean wild, Polar has been confirmed taking part in RMT since P1 and they let King Rat himself DA join them under an alt after he got absolutely bodied and lost all reputation when he got fully outed for selling accounts/RMTing and Enveus disbanded and he sold the discord out from under them

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Suck my fat nuts tbh

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DROP YOUR PANTS RIGHT NOW. I WILL SUCC UR NUTS RN BET.

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# ruby lake On G??

No? Why would I gargle on a moss monsters nards? I might be lewd, but i'm not disgusting.

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I really feel like it has to depend on the shape and variety of moss monster SilvervaleThinkings

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VY GO TO BED

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A shambling mound would be superb - exquisite even, and you cannot convince me otherwise PowdurNOTES

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You were meant to have my back like an hour ago and you said you were going to bed so go to bed. !! @hushed grove

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Two exquisite mounds with a rock hard...

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I was going to keep going but idk how far the mods actually will let me go.

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Probably forever as long as ur not sus

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You should prolly not keep testing....

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Nah that was one of the first ones in the chat. Its gucci

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Yeah but you have a Polar tag so ur already more suspect, gotta be cautious

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# echo mulch TRUEEEEEE. THIS ONE GETS IT.

I get it because you apes deserve it, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna warn the genuine ones lmao(MY TAG IS WORSE THEN URS JUST NONE OF MINE ARE HERE HHAHAHAHAHA @echo mulch )

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I should go to sleep, I have to go to work in a few hours lmfao

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Same lmao

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GO TO SLEEP

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Make me uwu 😏

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I hope you stub your toe and then bang your head against the wall making you recoil back to stepping on legos and then falling down into the splits.

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and what was Vice's raid?

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?

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? Was this Vice's raid? 'Cause I see 23. You mention 30+ for 10, so what's the story here

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they have 8 clerics to our 2 at this point - feeling pretty good

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If so, enemy had more and more clerics, based win

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The problem was hiding behind a load screen

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Which we Can Also confirm in dustys stream

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We intentionally had to take fights that were bad for us from the start to not have another 0 0 war

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Unless vice only wants to see 0 0 wars for the future

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# novel turret

why does he sound like he's about to cry every time he tries to shit talk?

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The reality is that anything you say after you take your guild to the top of Carph and sit on the teleporter is irrelevant. It’s a bitch made move. You guys guild dec, full well knowing our numbers because you were in Dusty’s stream.

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We offered numbers match in shout, in global, in Dusty’s stream, in tells. Stop spinning this numbers cope narrative.

You then called EBC and Amnesty to come and fight for you, they didn’t even war Dec because they wanted to exploit another stupid feature of fighting outside of event.

The whole guild Dec is stipid with an hour spin up anyways. We easily farmed 100 kills before you ran to carph.

polar veldt
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Nobody can just say hey good fights! Lmao

grizzled widget
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it's an open world pvp game. it'll never be fair fights. just say GG and move on

scarlet pier
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In the end…take your W and farm your clips. But don’t act like VICE is a PvP guild anymore.

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This is arena of words. I already PMed asking to set up scrims with VICE haha. I generally don’t get mad after shit like this. It is always GGs I just would rather have good PvP content

grizzled widget
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idk but if you guys are gonna sit here and compare raid sizes with screencaptures you've all lost the plot lol

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this discord was more interesting when polar was around

polar veldt
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Here’s my take- it was a banger of a night of content. It had its wax and wanes of moving around etc but that’s the beauty of it!

Is moving Carph for a regroup and a defensive move the fairest thing! No..
Neither is bringing 2x the number of people either.

scarlet pier
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I think there is a pretty big difference between bringing numbers from the guild you dec and borderline exploiting to gain advantage. But the good fights we did have were fun.

summer prairie
polar veldt
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I mean we can go around in circles about slimy moves. You use the moves you have. Sitting in Carph 4th floor was literally 1/8th of the night. The bulk of the PvP was fought outside. It was a fun night

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GGs tho hope nobody around too salty afterwards.

scarlet pier
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Just Polar 😂😂😂.
I kid, I kid.

chilly crane
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i mean i got pvp, i see pvp i go pvp, was fun

polar veldt
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Listen RhinoStar was ganking the shit out of us lmao

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He wasent tagged lol

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TBH multiple guilds/Players having fun in larger scale events is a good thing. Its the intended design

viral wagon
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gotta take some metamucil when you get to be 40 like that

rough silo
drifting herald
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I’m 21 with 45 years experience

wooden herald
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but does your voice crack. that's the real question?

drifting herald
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This gaming shit , been doing it soo long I forgot all the things I could teach, the sweats think they hit the skill ceiling but forgot there’s levels to this shit they can’t reach

drifting herald
fading hollow
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@scarlet pier your PVP officer gonna keep Dodging my scrims? gonna set it up properly?

And in regards to this war we did not ask you to number match becouse we played in a way that secured us victory. and we even won running you down. OVER and OVER again. you guys got droped today. Take a L Unpuff your chest. and get zombie im my DM's to set it up. ill wager 100g best of 3 10 v 10

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1 amnesty and 3 / 4 ebc's joined the vice war today. Stop copeing

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@scarlet pier cat got your tounge?

scarlet pier
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Nah I’m just trying to understand the mental gymnastics of sitting up at the top of a teleporter full knowing we can’t push it. While also being too poor, your words, to war Dec.

fading hollow
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@scarlet pier 5 mins on reply dammn dude tok your time, chat GPT not got a response?

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hahaha im not war decing with 1 person online. thats actully stupid. Kind of like you bringing your ball up the tele

scarlet pier
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Idk you’ve tagged me twice in 30 seconds. My old as fingers can’t move that fast.

fading hollow
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Purple did the same thing to us yesterday. and we just gg'd the war. you ran it down mid. Not our fault

scarlet pier
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Yea…using the same strats as polar and purple really puts you on top…surprised you didn’t drop tag and log out too.

fading hollow
scarlet pier
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You didn’t do anything. Toner is the only person in either of your guilds worth a shit.

drifting herald
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Fresh cat nip is pretty good lol

fading hollow
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I shot called the whole thing. I am the reason you got clapped kid.

scarlet pier
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Nah. I was never dead.

fading hollow
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Funny, Toner did more solo than your whole squad combined. Maybe ask him for lessons instead of excuses.

scarlet pier
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Yea. Toners great. We love Toner. He doesn’t hide

fading hollow
# scarlet pier Nah. I was never dead.

@scarlet pier ill gladly 1v1 you but bard vs mage is just unfair for you, im happy to run this back when your free. maybe just maybe you might only die every time. When you can actully put up a fight. Then you can talk. Untill then GTFO the shit talk

scarlet pier
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I’m alright. You’re boring

thin verge
fading hollow
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you just lost. TY

scarlet pier
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As much as I’d love to sit and talk. I’m sure it’s your bedtime. Hop in mommy’s pouch and thank VICE for giving you any amount of content.

novel turret
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What do you mean?

Brother its an open world game

Why are you upset that you decked on somebody who has less people than you

And less people showed up and kicked the shit out of you

OMEGALUL

scarlet pier
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Thundr you guys decked us. What?

storm wedge
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Dodges scrims, loses siege, loses war, talks shit...
Actually talking to a brick war i don't think people should give you the time of day.
That being said, nothing against your guild, huge respect for zombie calling that siege, but you make them look bad.

novel turret
thin verge
mystic lynx
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can we just measure cooks in a war ?

fading hollow
rough silo
viral wagon
fading hollow
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HE WASENT READY

thin verge
rough silo
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Just gathering is boring

thin verge
rough silo
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Ashes of gatheration or sitting in winstead market fml

spiral spindle
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hope theres some good shit on PTR this week

rough silo
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so many bug issues that dont get addressed, just shove into alpha live

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gibe us bugged fb

storm wedge
spiral spindle
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Ideally theyll start building out actual tools for that and being a little bit more proactive before beta

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cant be hard to have gms do sting operations, im sure theres plenty of people willing to volunteer for that too

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i havent logged onto live in a bit but i heard the economy is even more fucked than it was before i took a break

rough silo
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almsot a gold for a stack of common copper, nothing wrong.

craggy vessel
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You literally make gold by just picking things off the ground 🥱

spiral spindle
rough silo
spiral spindle
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after hearing what they did in OSRS i wouldnt doubt it, probably makes them a killing too

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10 gold early wipe can probably feed them for a week lmao

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oh well, intrepid will hit the reset button eventually. just need time to cook up meaninful changes

rough silo
spiral spindle
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does intrepid know about the dupe

rough silo
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osrs is botting + multi, in ashes is another beast.

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i srsly think they need to ban china from access or give them their own server.

spiral spindle
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that would help a lot, its done wonders for other games

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id suggest putting them in OCE but the aussies would lose their shit dealing with that

rough silo
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EU itself cant populate a server, OCE cant either.

spiral spindle
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im talkin closer to launch, definitely wouldnt last long now

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still annoyed EU players cried for their own server and just didnt play on it lol except for cartel and holiday

rough silo
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Launch? so 2032?

spiral spindle
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2028 Chud

shrewd edge
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Don't worry guys. New PoE league coming. Gold sellers migrating soon!

rough silo
rough silo
shrewd edge
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I forgot to record some of the dumb shit we were doing in flex.

lyric fjord
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Ah, I see they found the way to settle the moons of Verra. This new transporting technology is a "Leap" for all living kind!

bitter agate
bitter agate
# hallow hare yeah, if they do a fresh start they NEED to fix the vote hopping. With how delay...

How would you fix vote hoping ?
One thing that I saw working now - and having many people not wanting to leave citizenship, is the node perks after you start to build your reputation.
I agree that the citizenship CDs need to work properly.
Then this might be the way: Good Perks + Real Penalty for leaving + Large CD for dropping ?
But then, I would say the same for guild, dropping guild CDs should work properly as well, and be as long as node citizenship. As well as making so guild perks are good so it matters if you are outside a guild or not.
PS: And you would still have some ppl hoping over, after a vote, drop citizenship and wait for the next one.
This will keep going until monthly elections happen at the same time.

rough silo
zealous vapor
zealous vapor
hollow monolith
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shit talking ebc and vice just doesnt hit at all depression

hasty gyro
zealous vapor
rough silo
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What in the brokeback mountain is this.

rough silo
hollow monolith
rough silo
bitter agate
# zealous vapor They're over a full phase behind on getting more than 1 settlement election type...

Honestly it might be worst.
We have a single election type currently, which is the majority voting one that is Scientific (?) Settlement.

  • Economic one would be the first to bid 1k gold (since that's the current cap)
  • Martial would be the best on pvp during a certain time, group or solo, not yet stated.
  • Divine: The one who does more questing inside the node area or for the node (still with blank spaces to be decided).
hollow monolith
rough silo
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Man's 100% having nightmares, making stuff up.

zealous vapor
rough silo
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Having Godchi join Rats with Scabs gave a boost of PVP confidence that was unearned.

signal kettle
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I dont even want to think on how long it all will take

bitter agate
zealous vapor
echo mulch
zealous vapor
rough silo
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Guys wrong text channel for these constructive conversations.

versed fulcrum
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Go fuck yourself Bam (feel better?)

versed fulcrum
zealous vapor
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Fuck that you're stupid and purple names have dickydo disease, it is known

zealous vapor
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But yeah it has me a little worried that they're scope creeping with yet another event type, supposedly with a marketing push, and the archetype system is less than half, settlements are less than half done, the economy needs another overhaul... just doesn't feel like a solid foundation and/or first-things-first type of approach.

rough silo
shrewd edge
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Oh bet.

topaz drum
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Ebc Amnesty and vice just mad that if they dont Call the whole alliance to beat us they get rolled

rough silo
topaz drum
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Vice needs out of war helpers to beat us

rough silo
topaz drum
viral wagon
rough silo
polar veldt
inland crater
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Hey GF 😊

rough silo
polar veldt
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rough silo
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With the Guards on the Siege literally one shotting us and wiping us at banner at least x4 they still think they good.

polar veldt
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I was referring to Mur

inland crater
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This is all megaminded by Dusty to increase his viewership and engagement

rough silo
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True

topaz drum
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We had Half raid unable to play cause of respawns softlocking us

hollow monolith
lilac harness
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The guards on the siege were worth five to ten players each.

rough silo
rough silo
hollow monolith
rough silo
hollow monolith
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Yes show me a fight with where it was 80 v 40 thatll prove you're not bitch made!!

polar veldt
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Dont you like fighting 30 vs 10?>

rough silo
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You guys lose outnumbering, you lost even numbers what else you want, offered every scrim/team/duel pvp scenario and still dodge.

hollow monolith
polar veldt
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So does that change on a nightly basis or

topaz drum
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Dw when i get home i Can send a clip of ebc leaving guild

polar veldt
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lol You guys are so hostile mang

rough silo
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Trapped rats.

hollow monolith
covert chasm
rough silo
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I messaged every guild on the defending side as a Thanks for assisting Rats with Scabs Godbless

hollow monolith
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Did you get the validation your daddy never gave you?

rough silo
rough silo
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Keep taking L's man.

topaz drum
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Only respectable pvp guild still playing is purple

hollow monolith
rough silo
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Replying to reach other in here YIKES

topaz drum
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Cant talk to ebc your shittalk is to boring

rough silo
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Keep replying to each other because anything else you get dogged on 🤣

hollow monolith
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"aRe yOu scCaReD, we brought 80 people and won vs your 40 haHA losers 🤪 "

topaz drum
hollow monolith
topaz drum
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Ebc aint deccing shit cause they poor so we fund their only content

hollow monolith
rough silo
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Man must be having nightmares.

topaz drum
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We have used more than 100g on ebc Amnesty

topaz drum
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Still havent seen a dec from ebc Amnesty atleast decced once

rough silo
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beyond delusional 🤣

hollow monolith
zealous vapor
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Here's the shit talk I come here for. No more of this well-reasoned calm discussion.

topaz drum
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3 guild decs thats so many Im proud of you

rough silo
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Rats with Scabs master of dodging.

polar veldt
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who Needs decs. FLAG UP

topaz drum
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We all know flagging up is broken fighting in wars is Much better dont have to settings check

hollow monolith
# topaz drum 3 guild decs thats so many Im proud of you

funny how toner was asking dusty when he will be available for scrims, dusty told him anytime but next sunday because of twitch con >> ebc proceeds to guild dec on sunday when most of leadership went to twitch con kekw dogshit fucking guild

hollow monolith
topaz drum
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Sadly ebc cant afford the decs so we dont get quality pvp unless we pay for their content

hollow monolith
topaz drum
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True its gonna be mole hunting like the last few times

rough silo
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Rats with Scabs are very close from stockholm syndrome.

topaz drum
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bonking ebc until they loss all members

hollow monolith
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low tier shitter guild with low tier banter giving shit tier pvp content lame ass phase

echo mulch
# hollow monolith I like fighting even numbers but when we did that with EBC/amnesty they logged o...

This happens so frequently with multiple guilds its kinda annoying.

I'm all for the fighting in chokes at a disadvantageous number and seeing if you can kill more than your ball gets killed for type of fights but that happened like once this phase for us.

Every other time its bring a huge mass for clout and shit talk in global. And if they wait it out and start pvp in the open world then shitters just drop guild.

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Honestly its surprising amnesty actually would do that. Tim has fought us 40v40 multiple times this phase and we've even had 5v5s and 8v8s during guild wars and had a cheering section watching the fair fights with Amnesty.

rough silo
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Idk whats worse, they making up shit or lloyd chiming in.

hasty gyro
topaz drum
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Bam doesnt know What a clip is its fine

hollow monolith
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It's open world PvP so it's expected but to hide behind supple's cock and pretend like the fucking is happening with your own is fucking bitch made honestly.

Also EBC is just a shitter guild that amnesty couldnt give a fuck about so they just logged off to not lose face on the even numbers

rough silo
summer prairie
topaz drum
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Show em then

hollow monolith
fervent hound
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The issue with this game is that there are so few guilds wars feel way more important/impactful than they actually are. If you had more guilds losing wars wouldn’t matter.

echo mulch
rough silo
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You have tim calling rats with scabs out just have to scroll up, making up shit when OCE is asleep you guys are 100% comedy 🤣

rough silo
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You grow balls when OCE is asleep but when you get called out in your prime time is run. Rats with Scabs special Dodge maneuver.

hollow monolith
topaz drum
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ebc is S tier at starting open world conflict getting wiped once and logging cause its 2 am

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thats the almost none of wars vs ebc go above 10

rough silo
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The veredict is confirmed, rats with scabs got beaten so many times within 30 days is stockholm syndrome.

hollow monolith
topaz drum
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bam was proud of beating cats 0-2 after his guild logged

hollow monolith
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Bam I'm not gonna lie it feels like your life is so miserable if you're here talking shit after your guild just logged off after every guild dec, do you not have anything better to do?

rough silo
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Oh we getting personal now

hollow monolith
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Well as the person whos been breasfeeding you attention cuz no one else cares about you I feel like I should know

rough silo
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"Bam is bulling my guild so now I must start leaning into personal subjects"

topaz drum
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ebc wouldnt have content if cats didnt dec you

wicked bone
hollow monolith
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god this guild is fucking boring

rough silo
wicked bone
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i just laugh at u tbh

rough silo
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oh another rats with scabs.

wicked bone
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its not only cats that laugh at u brother, youre a meme

topaz drum
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EBC Stands for Evacuate Before Conflict

fervent hound
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Streamer guild vs Convict Island Guild first to ten stream it on twitch

foggy zealot
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Ngl this discord should have an activity check to prevent people that dont play the game from yapping

rough silo
wicked bone
hollow monolith
fervent hound
topaz drum
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maybe if we corrupt on ebc they will log on

rough silo
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Broke record.

fervent hound
hollow monolith
viral gulch
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PvP at KT 10g into the node buy in … surely this gets em

zealous vapor
hollow monolith
echo mulch
ripe gorge
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Inc Harbinger NPC look?

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i have to say the souls on its back is pretty dope

earnest canopy
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pretty sure those are already iin game

hoary lichen
silk depot
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ok . not sure how this chat works so here i go

you all are poopoo heads and cant click buttons in the correct order

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did i do it right ?

bitter salmon
silk depot
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MODS , HURRY HE HURT MY FEELINGS BAN HIM

bitter salmon
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No mods hurry ban him for talking in all caps

foggy zealot
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all caps really bro? grow up

late crescent
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yeah you're gonna get down bad like @sick oar 🙁

silk depot
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I might have decond somones stuff after the messed up a corruption kill to spite them .... so lets say maybe i have the ability to make one LOL

rough silo
echo mulch
drifting herald
polar veldt
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this was a good one

rough silo
tepid shore
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who fkn tagged me here

rough silo
tepid shore
rough silo
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paranoia

drifting herald
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lol the names

rough silo
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Well watched the video, another rats with scabs L while outnumbering whos surprised?

echo mulch
drifting herald
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Spamming caps as an answer won’t suffice I need an actual example

lilac harness
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I got you, bro.

echo mulch
weak robin
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From what i gather EBC dec cats offpeak and Cats dec EBC offpeak, this awkward time difference. You two need to organise a time and me and I'll pack the popcorn.

echo mulch
weak robin
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I saw that message, 4:44am aedt
I went to bed 2am last night and im here decomposing at work haha

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The sieges are lunch time on the weekend for us i think they could just dec post next siege that'd be cool

rough silo
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Cats DEC ebc when is 3am OCE time, EBC dec cats x3 when 6pm~10pm EST not the same buy the narrative you want, nobody cares if your leaders are on twitchcon or your aquarium is on fire, is your primetime and you have 20 members online.

viral wagon
echo mulch
unkempt merlin
fresh cliff
# polar veldt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2_tmEHL9Y

I am getting a lot of pm's about this one lol. I hear the streamer trying to change the narrative of what happened again?
Funny, because I have the full vod, I mostly edit'ed out walking respawns if anything. I tried to keep most of the war in the video to give all the facts of what really happened.

Don't need to twist lie or bend the facts to fit my argument unlike this streamer is doing.
Video an Vod speaks for itself.
I don't need to gaslight and be egotistical , like he is.

scarlet pier
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The only thing that honestly bugged me, is that you guys conveniently left out all the times we asked to numbers match when the score counted. Thats being disingenuous to the "facts".

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And thanks for leaving in the killed by Xop ❤️

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Also Guard Wizard cooked on that bridge Hooooly

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Mage wet dream

fresh cliff
scarlet pier
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I mean ill yap all day for luls but I actively try not to be an asshat in DMs, I hope thats not the case

fresh cliff
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at least you talk to me like I am a human being and not constantly trying to talk shit and maintain some dumb ass persona online.

scarlet pier
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Because at the end of the day, anyone who is still left on this server is doing gods work every time they log in

novel turret
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guys guys guys

fresh cliff
novel turret
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what is going on here

why is cats camping the portal spot??? in a war

fresh cliff
scarlet pier
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Damn, I stopped myself from making a mizkif reference like 10 mins ago....