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We are stress testing
We are glorified.
i wish my wife said that more
Mine too
I think its bugged-
Oh the beer recipe isnt in the game yet. Just edit to get around the timer?1 message frees you allit is quite liberatting. Anarchy. But does the tavern even exist?
lol, and now slowmod is turned up because why?
Usually this is the only channel you say whatever with sombody spamming a mod after you
You have been banned Because stevens feelings got hurt yet again
wtf you gonna do right.
It's been on since day 1 so I'm not sure what you mean by on now
it just got turned up- was 10 seconds jumped to 30
I may be a bit delusional tho
No we are saying that they do this based on messages coming in when i feel like we are getting along now and on the same page. But if you edit it will just add to the message and keep going. Here let me show you. Is this an exploit or a feature? Do i put supple or polar by name? At this rate we just have everyone have 1 message and about 45 paragraphs
its an exploit- quick join polar so you dont get banned
You were moved “You’re going to be banned for 24 hours if you keep talking to mods that way.”
oh i missed it- ive been trying to start staying away from this game as it crashes and burns
Mods? Wait he has employees? That make a game? Stop it. He has artist that can paint with the colors of the rainbow. Just around the river bend!
yeah i asked a mod why i was being silenced. TIMEOUT-
wouldnt be the first time it happened to me. My fave part is they just do it at will, not for breaking specific rules.
Oh well they mostly dont bother ya in here so
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it was my own. its ok- they can all see what you sent me im not worried about my privacy on this manner-
wild.
This chat is too calm, double it and give to the next person.
too calmim getting silenced for posting a screenshot
Lead economist is literally not a role any MMO has ever had. It’s basically a Manchurian candidate. Someone to blame that doesn’t exist.
Thank you
yeah im with you- so why is it here? But also, is economy something we should be testing in Early alpha this hard, or would it be better when the game has fully implemented systems, things working, and starting to gear up for release?
Problem is with a live test like this, its just tied into all progression.
yeah
progression that is capped at half of what is max level and restricted heavily so things cant be tested.
it would be nice to have a better baseline. TEST FOR MONTHS over and over on the PTR and slowly implement little changes
Remove gold lets barter.
But the baseline is fucked 23934839x over right now for alot of reasons so
WTT 10 Lego Sand for 1 Lego Copper
P3 is my eyes ( and im wrong on this btw) was more for really testing this stuff and monitoring more complete systems etc etc. It feels like they are just winging that and purely worried about dumping new content etc so
Which is fine.. but that stuff screams PTR. Not a live test like we have now 24/7
Too much hope/expectation.
100%. I thought they were further along than they appear to be
Keyword Appear*
This game feels 3-4 years out. Except they are advertising now to show all the new people what this game is really gonna look like... Makes very little sense to me
I think they are, I think they’re also smart enough to realize the perception issue permeating their audience.
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I think there will be fresh server in Nov with the advertising push.
Uhm… I don’t the ban was removed it just seemed like a temp ban o.o could be wrong but like… perm bans aren’t the only bans
Let me solve this @rugged apex you are an expoliter piece of shit who only wants a wipe because you got your character deleted also @viral wagon is an idiot.
lol
fresh copers denied
Almost like wiping doesnt make sense without new things being tested.
Or current rampant exploits that are the cause of a broken economy being closed.
Ya bro they ain’t gonna wipe they are gonna do a fresh server.
Which everyone will play and the old server with 2000 gold items well be essentially meaningless
Dang that’s a rare drop lucky guy got a whole set at epic
Yooooo I was never banned you just made that up in your little brain. When reality hit you started crying like a child. Log off the game
I think they won’t Fresh or wipe in November (econ shit is still broken) but they’ll probably do it before the end of the year or shortly after New Years
i just don’t want another wipe scenario where Intrepid disappears for 2 weeks right after it starts so early Jan is the best time IMO
Fresh = wipe we already went over this in the p2.5 fresh
Intrepid knows fresh kills the existing
I mean they could delay it for sure but the plan is Nov and based on them actually getting work done and actually testing shit it seems like they are locked in.
Steven has been silent which mean he wants the work to speak for itself.
Money is on the line in Nov with the advertising/skins push which to me means the investors want to see proof of income.
Intrepid is done fucking around or tbh the game could be done with and investors could pull the plug.
That’s what I’m saying we are getting a fresh NOV for the crying ppl they’ll leave shol up but it might as well be dead.
I mean wouldn’t they start advertising now? Quite possibly they push this whole advertising timeline back a bit, I haven’t seen/heard of any ads yet
Ya I can agree delay is possible but messing around on the ptr they are actually adding quite a bit biggest patch I think we’ve ever seen in terms of real content and not just more empty land.
Also testing the sieges and node wars means they are actually spending time fixing the issues which is a good sign
i think in the new year like Feburary would be better if they ever did a fresh start. doing a fresh in november would be a fools tactic.
just gotta let them fix rarity (theyre doing), known dupes, caravans taking more than intended (if they haven't already). also letting them test harbingers in a broken server economy state would actually provide more info for the current end game gear than straight starting fresh.
if end game gear is struggling then theres no way stater gear would have a chance, = tweaking in to fresh
I think a fresh is fine but I don't think everybody is going to swap, considering how intense the AIDS you receive from leveling and gearing in p3 is
the gearing is beyond dogshit at the moment. If it was as simple as p2 then a wipe would be fantastic
Siege yesterday in KT had best performance I've seen so far
Some desync / respawn issues, and frame dips but rendering has substantially improved
Only some brief slideshow action during the initial 100v100. Buttons actually working.
It has folks excited to prep for the next one.
At best fresh isn't happening in a couple weeks still IMO, which would realistically push into Q1 26.
respawning in the last 20 mins on defense was like and rng 30s - 5minute affair
Up until the end the performance was great yeah. Defense was spawning into a lag zone with 10-20 people rubber banded into the shadow realm
they replaced reviving on the spot with reviving in purgatory
Petition to move defense respawn slightly further! Those guards man lol
I play on a flip phone and had minimum issues at siege last night. Great fucking job dev team! Huge step in right direction
KT overall has dogshit design tbh, what's the point in walls when you can just space bar jump over them
Yeah some of the terrain had some questionable placements.
I think it was automatically generated
Remove guards near points and make them untargetable
Rogues and caltrops developed a hate hate relationship with the guards lol
But overall the performance was ages better than any other siege so far.
I have a guard following us in almost every clip I have from once we got inside the city
t3 towns are much more fun to attack/defend imo
What investors you shithead? Steven is the only investor 😂😂😂
no he isn't lol
Cry is that you
I spent time in purgatory and also had a separate issue of 10 mins where my hp drained full to 0 nonstop
Doesnt take away from it being a step forward performance wise
Though the best overall i think was the mira defense on lyneth hosted by intrepid
(Victory led by yours truly 😉 )
The siege yesterday was really fun
There is no reason to delay Harbingers content if they are on schedule however they should delay marketing to next milestone and actually start marketing 3 werks before next milestone with a fresh....
OT finish, down to the wire, and good ZvZ fights all around
yes
In my opinion
opinions are like buttholes , everyone has one and they all .......?
Are beautiful
You guys had better performance on live with full 200 person siege than our 40v40 siege on ptr 
😋
You can have private investors in a company that still own parts of it here in the States.
im back phew that was a long timeout
lol
Just think, next one you might get to join General Zod permanently. https://tenor.com/view/zod-phantom-zone-superman-trap-gif-26277566
One can dream
how do you even get timed out this much, you don't say anything that bad in here
not sure i made a joke in the ptr chat about someone not having hands (wasnt really a joke but)
Also idk how close you are but Unknown might have a partial point, timeouts are eventually permas
yeah better to caution on the safe side, mods seem to figure out "problematic" individuals and then consistently target them more often
wdym undesirables?
🥴
Can’t be that true. Polars still here
be careful with that, you're dangerously close to realizing we arent the problematic people here.
Pretending some of ya'll aren't problematic is still crazy, man, you initially struck me as a reasonable one
last siege was insane boys fights lately have been fun af i know the games not in the best state its ever been but i cant imagine missing this shit
Its pretty true, its just not unbiased. Some of the mods are as bad as modbot used to be
what the actual fk is dusty talking about right now
i mean you can call me unreasonable. i only shit talk people who start it first. and i help out other people in this discord. and give my opinion like pvp needs to be more prevalent in a pvx game (just chopping trees and hitting rocks sucks), and maybe do away with the heroic tier of rarity
Ahh yes the ole get wiped 10 times before the score counts, go hide at the top of carph and start talking...
Uhuh you just got wiped after EBC had to go to bed
Also...why the fuck is there slowmode in this channel?
What’s the score now?
they hiding 😴
I call you unreasonable because you're unreasonably supportive of Polar at times even when its deserving of criticism. I'm not just some grifter who randomly talks shit about it, and you and I have went at it before, even when we shouldn't of
Im confused, watched dustys vod and his whole raid was in carphin? yet no pvp was happening? emberspring kills? or?
Granted, its your guild, you're gonna support it, I get that. But supporting it doesn't mean not owning up to what's unreasonable, or is it that you've got policies in place that require you to not say anything bad? Iunno. I think ur a decent one, even now
Owning up to what
Are we gonna pretend people in your guild haven't contributed to exploit abuse? To condoning issues? To being reset? To advocating for greater toxicity? To baiting reactions?
You're one of the cool ones too Coot, are you gonna pretend Polar ain't guilty of being shitters? Some shitters like Godchii are gone but that doesn't get rid of all of them or the problem
I'm not so dumb as to pretend that Polar is the root of all evils in AoC and needs to be wiped off the map, because that's just silly, they're top dogs, people are gonna be more critical and more antagonistic in the first place. But Polar has abused certain issues, and has earned anger in various cases, and pretending they haven't is crazy.
I'll do a debate but if we're gonna just troll I'mma afk just so ya'll are aware
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i mean i will own up to when polar has been dicks like here. but i also know what is going on behind the scenes and when polar is getting the shaft because devs dont want to own up to their mistakes and push the blame off to someone who just plays the game smart.
for example: making a 24 slot van had precedent from previous phases, took a long time to make, and seemed reasonable for that point in the game/ resource cost.
or carphin being the same since phase 1, but now its polars fault for getting gear from there at the start of this phase because we are able to push people out of there in a PVX game.
Read, but you mentioned 24 slot vans. If I understand that correctly, that involves Tim, yeah? I'm not inclined to believe him. But I'm gonna take the benefit of the doubt and believe him, that he did warn Intrepid what was going on, that he did inform them correctly of how much money he was making. Why would they delete Tms character based off public opinion if Polar has had case in the past for taking advantage of exploits? I'm not saying I don't believe Tm; I don't, in truth, but not entirely. He had good receipts, but I'm not inclined to believe that its the whole story.
There's also circumstance like, for example, the original node war decs in P2.5(P2? I forget), where it gave rewards, and Polar was declaring on EVERYONE. Come on, guys. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this isn't intentional...and Polar was still doing it anyways. Who was the competition? Nova Ordem? Its an alpha. Why does it matter? Do you really need this to make the difference? Its the intention at the same time.
People in here bait all the time for reactions, its the ones who take the bait that are always mad about it.
As for exploiting you can claim shit happened in the past idc, i wasn't here. Think anyone with a brain can see the way the crates and carphin was handled this phase was purely dev incompetency. Guild combined making 900g is wipe/rollback/reset worthy but not the EU guilds making vastly more than us during the same reset window? Not the countless people duping crates at the moment? Not literally the entire server running around in bugged lvl 29 armor for physical players? I mean the devs rolled back cause level 10 items were on a vendor for fuck sake. I just want consistency from them and their CS department, punish me if they have to but god damn please punish the other people "abusing" the same systems if not worse abuses.
Margaret herself claimed 24 slot vans were exploits which they just aren't. There was a clear and obvious trade off to using them vs using a willow or different wood. I can carry a lot of crates but guess what? I have worse defense than starting caravans minus having some HP. (As seen in the video of Supple killing TMs van). It died in under 2 minutes with less than 15 of them there for majority of the time.
And I haven't even mentioned Lexi yet, who used to bait reactions and bullshit all the time, and that does nothing to condone or induce a better environment
For reference: I got a warning and all I turned in was a ticket crate. A TICKET CRATE. AND IT WAS WORTH THE SAME AMOUNT OF TICKETS
That is a targetted warning because of my guild tag
"People in here bait all the time" right but you guys are already under scrutiny and controversy so where's the logic or merit in baiting more, I mean, use your heads, its not going to end well, and if you can't do that, police your members...that's not a lot to ask for, and I can say that as a former member(I say former because we aren't playing anytime soon) of a 400+ man guild who strictly enforced comms discipline on their guild members.
Carphin was handled poorly, I agree, but the way it was handled by Polar in turn was also poor, and it just made Polar look worse ultimately. Idk much about what's going on EU and I won't pretend to do so. I can't comment on the rest either, because I didn't play, because fuck current AoC lmao.
My alt account turned in 3 crates that were already pre stored at KT and sold for a COMBINED 80g and it got nuked. BUT IM WATCHING PEOPLE ON EU IN THE SAME WINDOW TURN IN THOUSANDS OF GOLD WORTH OF CRATES AND NOT GET TOUCHED
How did we handle Carphin wrong? We took it on the chin, bitched a little and moved on making our Glorybound weapons 2 weeks later. It was a known event that had been in for multiple phases. I'd argue the armor bench bug atm is far worse but because we aren't the ones using it because we are on break its not an issue
I'mma be real what does commenting on EU have to do with what we're talking about? Its not currently relevant to NA or Polar or the environment that Polar has. Is there a case to be made for unfair representation? I agree, yes, 100%, but its not a case I can make(Do remember 30s delays)
(again, i just want consistency from the devs and CS team, smack us on the wrist w/e, smack all the people doing the same shit tho)
nah, the only thing that made it look worse was like 5 people in this discord malding over the fact they were behind, so they wanted us banned/ deny us content.
the anti-polar propaganda was strong with a whiff of controversy caused by bad dev choices.
and its a couple people that really bait the drama on more, but they have fun with it and if people cant smell the trolls in here thats really on them
You handled Carphin wrong by making a Reddit post about it and letting Godchii say anything about it. Its been an issue since A1(iirc), and I recognize that, and understand it, and am fully on board with that. Deleting everyone's gear was wrong and fucked, no doubt about it. But some Polar guys did it to try and int Supple for some reason, or people pretending to be Polar on Reddit did it, and it backfired. That's what I mean.
Commenting on EU because they were "abusing" 24 slot vans long before we were and to a larger degree. It is relevant because a company that wants to succeed can't show bias one way or another and as much as people complain Polar is "favored" with Steven we are targetted with more warnings and pushback than anyone else purely because we were dominating the server and the rule of the mob was screaming for blood.
That's kap. Some Supple were bad actors and advocated for Polar punishment more heavily, but Polar thrived on its ego of being ahead, and was open about it. You can't deny that, come on. Sure, that comes with being top dog, top slot...but you need to consider the circumstance of the game, your players, your devs, before your actions. And Polar...Polar didn't do any of that, imo.
This conversation has gotten too civilized, please someone insult me before continuing. Thank you.
good thing i dont ever go on reddit, that place is a cesspool. full of bots, and people claiming to be people they arent.
Ur an absolute fucking LOSER for playing card games and hyping up gacha games LMAO STAY IN IRRELEVANCE WITH TNL DYING SHITTER 
Thank you:)
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someone reported us for “bugging” Tumok with a 20 second clip of the end of this 30min fight and intrepid cs suspended us for 7 days with zero investigation. Cs for intrepid is awful literally terrible they should all be fired for how poorly they perform.
We got the suspension overturned after one of the few ppl working there not even in cs explained how ridiculous this was.
Intrepid has massive issues large parts of the team don’t understand the game at all.
They thought me using a dragon wood caravan was an exploit XDDDD like what the fuck
Yes and I saw the proof that Tm posted about timings on ss' and comments with Roshen and I'm inclined to believe that Tm's ban(based off what I saw), was in relation to what I saw but...I don't want to believe that because I don't know the entirely full story and I have a hard time believing otherwise because of Polar's past history, do you get where I'm coming from? I'm not saying Tm is lying, not at all, I don't believe he'd fabricate or lie about something like this, but its...harder to take in stride, considering past history, essentially.
Btw we killed tumok day 3 ??? Our guild was insane this phase can’t blame them for thinking we were cheating
People here are just too swayed by propaganda by some parties "POLAR MADE 20K GOLD IN 10 MINUTES FROM CRATES" and people actually ran with it because this community is full of people who can't think for themselves. Or that we exploited 1-25 as well lmao. Like we had GMs in ghost mode watching our top 4 squads leveling, I PROMISE YOU IF I RECORDED ALL MY SQUADS COMMS YOU'D KNOW WE WEREN'T EXPLOITING BECAUSE IT WAS MISERABLE
whoever has the smoke alarm discord join sound is pure gold
That's the thing, its not just Polar propaganda lmao, its Polar itself.
People literally fell for Tanko saying he got reset on day 2 cause he named his main which was rogue this phase Nottanko
Like how is that our fault the community huffs that much paint to believe it
Tm idk if ur reading my messages but if so, I'm not calling you a liar. I don't like you, but if Intrepid is being bad eggs in regards to ur ban, I'm all for defending you, its just...hard to wrap my mind around defending you due to past history. And yes, Coot here, and others, can attest, that I have openly defended Polar for the Carphin shit and been called a Polar alt because of it lmao
"how is it our fault" brother are we pretending ya'll don't know how this community is or how information works in this community or how people are? The misinformation and lies are everywhere and people rarely validate what they see or read, come on, lol.
TM isn't banned nor is anyone in Polar been banned. Few people got wiped and that was it. We just chose to take a break because that wasn't the first time we were targeted by CS for testing their game. Grapply even got suspended last phase for reporting a bug. His literal CS response to reporting the bug was a ban 
90% of an mmo community are surface level and read what they see and some Polar guys are here (almost) openly BRAGGING about how great they are and barely denying what are considered exploits lmao
Tm got character wiped and I didn't say he got banned I just casually mentioned that he got punished because I saw what he himself said lol
so if you wana claim the p2 guild war spams were "exploiting" can you actual explain that thought process.
as someone who wasnt even in the guild at that time this accusation has never made sense to me.
like if you are going to pvp that many people you have to either 1) have better players, or 2) have way more players.
either way you have to earn your victories. its not like they spammed against 1 alt guild who would give up. they were killing everyone on the server. seems very PVX to me. they were using a PVP system to get PVE rewards. this makes sense and im really confused how people thought this was an exploit.
I'm not gonna do Intrepid's/CS's job for them but imma just say they need to not be so personally invested in their characters and what happens to them in game 👍 We pissed in some CS teams cheerios one day whenever and they've been gunning for us ever since. I harbor no ill will towards a single person or guild in the game because end of the day its a game and if I ain't got no opps to spin the block on then there's not point in playing but some people take shit too far and the moment IRL stuff is brought up I want nothing to do with you. Their response to doxxing my guildies with alt names in the siege might be one of the most piss poor CS jobs I've seen from a company
I think most exploiting shit polar got blamed for was envious. I mean ppl say the war spam in p2 but that was a passed over system by intrepid that was fixed and balanced. We even asked a dev if it was ok and he said it was fine. Another situation where intrepid fucks up community goes crazy and instead of intrepid saying they fucked up balance they blame w/e guild they can to please the community
sigh, did you see some of the wins? People just surrendering because they didn't wanna fight, or didn't have the bodies. Come on Lakkez, it was an alpha. Who wants to fight all the time? There's no way Polar couldn't realize it wasn't as intended. And they declared war on everyone? Unless I'm mistaken, or people were fabricating, or lying, it was Polar declaring war on random fucking guilds, just to get more rewards lol.
Something a community council with prominent figures from the HC guilds all the way down to the RPers and crafters to have a clear line of communication with devs would fix but alas 
Can i represent the balding?
Just as long as I don't have to beg xyz PI member to push an issue to get a response in a timely manner
Its ok if 20 people give me 100$ each i can become PI too!
That doesn't sound like an exploit. I wasn't here. This is my first phase, but that seems to me like a group of people using an in game system for their gain. Seems fine to me. That's the game. They were the big fish of the pond. Why not throw their weight around and steal everyone else's food?
i mean thats on those guys for being a whimp. not because polar is exploiting. fighting is literally the point of the game.
the whole game culminates in nothing but systems that require pvp. this is good imo and what is going to make this game great.
harbingers, pvp.
caravans, pvp
castles, pvp
seiges, pvp
guild wars, pvp
lawless zone farming (where the best mats, recipes will be), pvp
fishing, in the open water, pvp
Absolutely no shot that's all that it is and I think you're on
if you believe otherwise. Polar's done dumb shit in the past, has done dumb shit several phases, and continues doing dumb shit. Part of becoming a professional, high end, hardcore guild is policing ur boys. Mav used to be a lot more toxic, and became better imo(I'm surprised he got better), but also about presenting a better face. Being a top guild isn't just about flexxing ur e-peen on everyone, its about being on top without rubbing it in people's faces, iunno.
Right, correct, and for the most part, I agree, I don't think it was an exploit either. But Steven declared it an exploit, and that's all there is to it, yeah? Even so, that is utilizing a system in place for an unintentional end game, which is, in and of itself, an exploit.
Dev just rollbacking and banning on whims and community sentiment (anyone with eyes can see this)
it will get better im sure but this phase was handled badly, also margret coming in here talking about fresh is WEIRD
In P2 yeah. In p2.5, I don't think Polar did much, just were douches. In 3.0, most of Enveus' ex pvp members were in Polar, and iunno man, like, was Grapply actually reset a lot, fr, or was that the community just memeing? Also, if a dev said all the wars were fine....why wasn't that ss passed around like crazy? Also, after you got character wiped, why wasn't that line of ss' passed around by every Polar yapper initially? Iunno. I think its partially ur own guys that help give you all a bad rep.
Believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I feel to be true
We are generally civil with most people that interact with us but if you get caught in the crossfire of a lawless area/war/siege etc than that's just part of being in a PvX game. Also people who've dragged my name/guilds name/guildies through mud why would they be entitled to me being kind to them in return? I'm rarely toxic to people because it get's me nothing but I also don''t forget easily either.
"that's on those guys for being a wimp" lmao, Lakezz, some of these decs we saw were on random like 5-10 man guilds who were barely even testing the alphas...that has nothing to do with people being wimps, but okay.
"what I feel to be true" monkaS, but okay bro. I still respect you Coot, and I will continue to respect you, but its easy asf to be civil and chill with people who want ur head. I've been on the top end guild part plenty of times, it ain't that hard to not be toxic, and its less hard for a officer to tell people to chill tf out and not promote more bullshit 
The moment you start passing around DMs from people, especially devs, they prob will stop responding to you in general thus a bridge is burnt
i mean, did you see it. or is that some more anti-polar propaganda started by 1 of the 5 malders some who arent in this discord anymore because they push shit too far.
because at that time i was in a small guild and polar never dec'd me
Brother it is the easiest thing in the world to get information from the devs in regards to whats cool and what isn't and relay it to your guild in a way that doesn't expose said dms and if you don't wanna get that then that's on you or your leadership
Sorry,what I know to be true, because the CS team commenting on my guildies IRL names being used as siege alts isn't cause for any action but me turning in a ticket crate is 
I saw the ss and I either recognized low tier guilds or guild names I didn't recognize and I've been here since 2017 and that's partially why I advocate what I say
Except Srixun got talked to by Steven about it and he shared dms about it accordingly but okay, also not relevant to what I was talking about(though still an issue)
I'm not personally against what Aura did in regards to the siege denial, it was a statement, but it shouldn't of been necessary either.
even if what your saying is true.
fi they are spamming and are fighting 3-4 low pop guilds at the same time.
4x10 = 40 players
you still have to beat 40 people.
and, being in a guild is a choice. guild wars are 1 consequence of that choice. its really easy to avoid guild wars/ node wars. dont be in that system
Him using alts to block people playing is one thing, using their irl names is another thing but I'm not here to bad mouth Srix either since he's not here to defend himself
"even if what your saying is true"
I know ur inclined to believe 99% of what people say here is lies but I try my best to be truthful in what I say and if I'm not, I'd like to be called out, so I'd like you to also assume what I type here is honest.
Most of the warscores I saw were like 2-0 Polar vs (x) guild, which is partially what lended credence to what I said.
Some peeps in Polar leadership had their irl names publicly posted in other discussions or in articles and that doesn't constitute doxxing at that point imo, but I won't defend him either because I don't know the full scoop
Whether it constitutes it or not its weird freak behavior. Call someone dog shit, say they cant shot call, i genuinely don't care what someone says about my gameplay but bringing up irl shit is so insanely freak behavior that I instantly think of them as sub humans
damn I even blocked the word and it got chat deleted lmao
but its what i dont get.
how is someone else quiting a core aspect of the game an exploit by the guild trying to play the whole game.
liek i said wasnt in the guild at the time, but i still really do not understand why its an exploit.
they stil had to EARN the wins to get the rewards. and even now when you can only do 3 with a CD, that seems like mroe than enough of a balance, so why arent the rewards back on?
imo the reason is because IS doesnt know how to balance this shit, and blaming polar for what happened 2 wipes ago is a scapegoat they are allowing to happen
Anything you post online can and will potentially be used against you, that's just chat pvp 101. Again, I'm not condoning it...but I've learned it the hard way, because it was used against me, and I protect myself accordingly
And not "yeah ur fat irl, you get no btches" not counting that, mentioning names/jobs/places you live etc is where im like yeah this person needs rehabilitated
Yeh but that's how AA worked, and how eastern mmos as a whole worked, and considering aoc is a sandbox mmo, that's how its gonna work here, unfortunately. Is it right? No, but that's how it is.
LMAO then get better shit talk, its not hard. The moment you bring up IRL stuff you lost the argument imo
I'd agree but people get mighty uncomfortable when irl is brought up, like their past account they made 10 years ago on some obscure website, and that, to people, is a win.
Yeah i never played eastern slop
so a community like this is def a wake up call
Because you're deccing on guilds that clearly can't, and won't, fight in the first place, for the sake of rewards? How is that not abusing the system. What?
Its always fun seeing the community fall for polar propaganda spread by polar themselves
Streamer guild piping up 
Ahh division in the cats
Wait if i bring back veil is that a streamer guild too D:
It's always the guilds you try and save that speak up 
AA voted as the most toxic pvp community of all time in an mmo so yeah, we're gonna feel it, especially considering New World(the new age AA), advocated for similar policies
You're okay because you shitpost with us and you aren't frail or stupid enough to leave IRL credentials everywhere and/or don't care, so you get a pass
Where's Thunder at, didnt he put belt to ass against Cats today
I mean, im a professional commentator and ex pro player. Unfortunately my online anonymity does not exist. I still find it giga weird when people bring IRL into online shit talk though.
yeah...
Right, but you played tnl, you were part of Epherium, you're used to people getting shitty at you and being cruel. Idk if ur ready for people like Gaz? But hey, if not, I'm on your side.
Wait Cats beats OCE, Vice beats Cats. Does that mean VICE > OCE
Dog im lost in the virtual beef
I mean i transferred 2 EPH guilds to Xeroth and got doxxed fully within 15 mins of being on the server so /shrug
People are weird online man. I just like to play games 
Nah, VICE was always gonna be decent because Overlord, in their recruitment, were always gonna inevitably recruit some decent players who'd gravitate to Vice 
When Jartor played AAU he was getting DDOS'd so often that he ended up quitting the game because he couldn't play more then an hour without getting DC'd constantly lol
imo here are 2 reasons why its not.
- they signed up to be in that sort of pvp gameplay when they joined a guild. they might not have known all of the ramifications at the moment. and people still complain about that now with node wars complaining they are dying.sorry, these are the consequences of your choices. now you know what is at stake maybe make better choices in the future. and take care of whre you become a citizen/ what guild you join because the PVX will happen.
- a parallel in game. is it an exploit to kill level 20 mobs? you out level and out gear them. they give rewards. killing things, wether its easy or not for a reward is just playing the game. like if your lvl 25 farming steelbloom is it an exploit? not imo, you are still working for it in game.
it would be different if it was something like the insta-spawning horse at the start of last phase that people exploited. like if polar was just decing an alt guild and giving up on repeat, i could 100% understand that as an exploit. but it wasnt. it was against people outside of themselves
I assumed VICE would be good months into the server purely from their econ dominating early just from gear advantage, not counting improving on their skill
Couldnt econ without seeing VICE
I'll be honest in admitting that idk shit about AoC econ but just having hands alone would make them decent players compared to others, considering how Polar(supposedly) ended up 50v100ing Supple(I don't believe it but idk otherwise)
NO SHUT UP I WILL NOT FEED ANY GREATER NARRATIVES WITHOUT SEEING CLEAR VIDEO PROOF
false info, it was 50v1000
we won all of those. i took that pic mid war for someone. you can see like amnesty had a huge lead on us so it was 100% counting us dying in the scores. we just came back and won them, and then supple re-dec'd after they lost, and lost again
"They signed up to be in that sort of pvp gameplay when they joined a guild." BROTHER this is
of the HIGHEST degree for the actual decs on random ass fucking guilds.
Your second point has merit, I don't disagree. See some weak mfker? Easy wins, but even so...are you really deccing on that random Outcasts Alliances guild with 2 people and one of them, the guy you saw, is level 20, without reason? Oh wait, your reason is the war decs....okay, so you kill him and get rewards. Would you of decced otherwise? Probably fucking not. He's a 2 man guild. The chances of you not outfarming him are nonexistent. The chances of you farming without a stack are nonexistent. MonkaS
If this is involving Supple like you said then this is p3 so what does this matter to my point about p2 and war dec rewards
do you want me to count the bodies I see in this screen because it looks like 10 on Supple's side 
this was a tangent where you said, "considering how Polar(supposedly) ended up 50v100ing Supple(I don't believe it but idk otherwise)"
i was showing proof of it since you said you didnt believe it
Ill montage it on medal, its like 20 something 3-5 min clips im a dumb fk and wasn't recording fully
deff the most fun i had this phase was that war.
GODS I AM GETTING POST DELETED SO FAST NOW THE MODBOT IS TOO GOOD kinda respectable but I hate it
The servers aint the same without polar 
get tf out of here Unknown ur too frail for this chat
medal gonna make me yell bad phrases if it doesn't montage this shit
If so then just send it to me personally 
Aww...worried you going to catch dem hands again? I go where I like. I just don't usually bother with you cause it is too easy.
nah imma yell at medal rn if it doesnt stop making the ashes launcher look good during patching
What hands, you linger in general chat saying random shit on occasion pretending to be relevant or deep in what you bring up. Ur generally well informed, but this isn't ur circle, so fuck off.
Unknown is TM's alt PI account 
I don’t think we’ve ever lost to polar when I was there. All supples losses seem to be when I’m not there 🤔
Hiding down in the arena because the drool cup has a hole in the bottom so you don't spill doesn't mean you winning.
Not a chance, Unknown is a different type of uhh interesting
You were the glue 
Or my bald head blinded you guys. One or the other. I’ll take it
lacking the bald buff
"hiding" whose hiding, I hang out here because my chat was deleted for the second time because frails like you were too scared to be there lmao, pipe down little rat, go back to ur hole and, once again, fuck off
ok i 100% understand how you think its cope, but is it wrong?
when people sign up for a guild/citizenship. do they understand the actual risk they are taking for the reward of being with people and getting guild perks with the talent tree?
i dont think people still understand that they are signing up to be in PVP events when they make the choice to sign up, they just see the reward, not the risk. and there is nothing in this game that should reward you without a risk.
and also, sample size of 1 here, i was in a small guild at the time everyone is saying polar was targeting small guilds. i never got targeted, and i was in proximity to polar a lot, just because good people find good farms and i would farm near them. so i still dont believe they were just targeting small guilds for the rewards
Eventually at this rate ill have to remake that for p2.5 or 3 depending how harb goes
You think you won't get deleted here too. They coming for you Kaisu....the tick tock tick tock of your inevitable failure, like irl, is catching up to you.
I've spent 4 hrs editing my feedback document all for it to get 3 upvotes and a clown emoji 
Purple names piping up once again but, even so, I will visit your freehold on launch, mr Unknown, if only for the respect of your time here, 
It is sure to be a fun ride. I got all the toys to make it into a Sugarland themepark.
I just want summoner to be good lol. I don’t mind hitting trees for 8 hours a day if I can atleast have that
"but is it wrong?"
🤔
FUCK I DID NOT MEAN TO HIT ENTER 30 SECONDS IS WILD WAIT
Unknown gonna roll a nat 20 at the launch party
It is in Vegas. Going to be all sorts of rolling.
tl;dr to what I started above, I mean, is it wrong? Iunno. That's debatable. Considering the circumtance surrounding it? I think it is. Why are you deccing on tiny, insignificant guilds, other then the rewards? Like I said, there's merit to be discussed in regards to defending your grind spot, but outside of that....bruh? I don't see the merit. Am I missing something? A clue? A detail? What is wrong here? What am I missing? That's the thing, I don't think I'm missing anything. Just because you never got warred on by Polar doesn't mean what happened didn't happen, that's again, imo,
logic
Last I knew, DA was hosting said party? So idk where that is now....xd
Lol, Steven is hosting. Was always planned to be in Vegas. Those at the 10k tier even have their rooms comped at a specific resort. DA got nothing to do with it.
Based I'm still showing up then
Hey, as long as you got an invite or a +1. You think after the problems they have had with irl stalkers and threats that there won't be security, you Emiru at Twitchcon.
🐼
I have no idea if I have an invite but I'm a Braver so that counts right? If not, yolo, we ball, I've been here long enough and I'm not creepy, double win
plus, I'm not afraid of this scenario
LoM got you the launch party. Gotta kick out another cool $500
bruh fr...
the fact that its debatable to the players should open up some graces to the players from the devs. this goes back to the very beginning. polar got the shaft from devs for a poorly implemented system. especially in an alpha where finding things that require correcting is the whole point.
in 5 years when this game launches will people care about what polar did in the war decs. no, but will the game be better for what they did? absolutly because it caused the devs to work with what the players will do with their systems, not just what the devs think they would do.
Yep, just checked.
well until I'm told otherwise I can upgrade whenever and if I'm not told very clearly beforehand with very clear pings then I'll bitch up a storm if I can't upgrade and will upgrade again before launch party 
Yeah, you got plenty of time to upgrade. We asked just a bit ago and the plans for removing the ability to upgrade are still as stated. Will give plenty of notice before they remove it, if ever.
#kickstarterop
I’ll show up to launch party with my welfare edition 
I'll bring you as a date
Not my fault I was a kid with no disposable income when they were selling 
That is DEFINITELY ur fault, if its my gens fault for not investing in stocks or houses then its ur fault for not investing in AoC 
i was in korea getting hammered with locals 🙁 i didnt keep up with video games at the time. o well c'est la vie.
Was reading a Reddit post yesterday about some Russian who big mad because they denied his PI after he tried changing the name on the account. He didn't even do a good job trying to cover his tracks for his bought account. And still had a history here where he had originally a website package, and then "magically remembered" he had a KS and tried to change it. Some peoples grey market skills are weak.
I was too busy doing Spanish 3 my freshman year of HS to think about a new MMO 
"but will the game be better for what they did?" yes, but I've been part of another testing group, and there's a better way to test things that don't get your group on the shitlist to other players lol. So no, while weight can indeed be assigned to the devs, weight can also be assigned to the players. Its an alpha, don't exploit clearly obvious shit.
didnt even see it posted ngl where is it
If its not obvious to you, then maybe you shouldn't be testing an alpha, iunno
still editing it, my formatting for it was being stupid cause i did half of it on my phone
I think it is just chef's kiss that people can't help themselves with shitter behavior. They work against their own interests. Which is great. They keep exposing things Intrepid will then fix. So everyone is winning. Cept of course those mad that their unlimited deccs and others are now closed.

global was actually always funny af during wars watching these clips kinda made me remember
Speaking of winning. Time to go give chocolate to my girls. It is Halloween week at school, and time to have them go classroom trick or treating. Have fun with da reee. If they crying, you winning.
why are you all having such an in depth conversation in here? Server is deaded. let us sleep.
Go sleep then 

I was doom scrolling in bed till this made me get up to my PC
Because it keeps me entertained 
Angelcry, get fucked. You smell funny. (that better?)
damn I feel bad but kinda based
fuck you. Thanks ❤️
Jamming to Yeat while i edit clips and my feedback post 
very little in this alpha has been obvious. the discussion of actual important things between players and dev is nonexistant. that is my #1 biggest gripe atm. but no we get a livestream where we get some concept art and steven saying everything is ok. like the Q&A sections have been ASS imo with no real discussion to the current players. they feel all aimed at getting new players, with very little regard to the people here trying shit out.
getting 0 feedback on my bug reports, and having the same concerns for 2 phases in a row is really fuckin annoying. like bugged mobs in a way that seem OP (for example a cone attack in front of them visually hits you everywhere even if your behind the mob) like i have so many bug reports its insane. of the PTR firbrand with 0 of the input from the previous phases, gets pushed through PTR back to live jsut to be put back on PTR, WITH THE SAME PROBLEMS.
we even confirmed with a dev. Intrepid just refuses to admit anything is their fault and the community cant see past hating us so in turn they let intrepid off the hook for dog shit balancing and systems. Well now polar isnt playing the game and guess what the systems and balancing are still dog shit.
spoiler alert: they did 
we never war traded. we specifically only targeted new guilds. we never warred the same guild twice. the moment steven said it was "broken" we didnt war again. Still got our characters deleted lmfao
To be fair, there was a lot of war spam during that time. And it wasn't all polar.
ya i know you struggle to type with out instantly lying or just fabricating weird fan fics but we never traded with anyone and its pathetic af you are so hateful towards a random guild where you literally know none of us, but you just insta lie
you spammed guild war decs for the rewards, thats exactly the definition of exploiting
you just said we war traded? dont skip your lie.
Polar is just the guild that's still alive since then. lol
I know reading is hard but read the full sentence
maybe you should try reading whats been talked about. what do you ahve to say to these points i made earlier, or is it just. polar did it, it must be wrong.
- they signed up to be in that sort of pvp gameplay when they joined a guild. they might not have known all of the ramifications at the moment. and people still complain about that now with node wars complaining they are dying.sorry, these are the consequences of your choices. now you know what is at stake maybe make better choices in the future. and take care of whre you become a citizen/ what guild you join because the PVX will happen.
- a parallel in game. is it an exploit to kill level 20 mobs? you out level and out gear them. they give rewards. killing things, wether its easy or not for a reward is just playing the game. like if your lvl 25 farming steelbloom is it an exploit? not imo, you are still working for it in game.
we spammed war decs bc they were fun and they gave us rewards it was a system in the game the devs passed over. Are you a third grader? Honestly how can you be so fucking dumb
wdym very little in this alpha has been obvious? I as player even fucking about in p2 could tell when I was exploiting and when I wasn't. I could tell in p1 too(though very different time and game.) Is this just a difference of perspective? Do ya'll think not having free or easy asf rewards in an alpha isn't intended for the game?
Wasn't this guy a mod? There's merit to be had here and I don't know exact timelines but the mods have been wrong on a number of occasions. Though, this isn't telling you a "fuck you" either, I just dunno timelines
surely
surely you spammed war decs on small guilds that couldn't fight back for fun instead of deccing on the big guilds for fights. I mean, you keep getting deleted every phase but surely the problem is not you 
NO MAN THIS IS A MAIN DEV ON INTREPID
Free/Easy rewards in an alpha actually makes sense to me
but I'm of the opinion that the entire testing and ptr servers could be handled 10x better
In an alpha where nothing has been easy, but apparently, war dec rewards are?
be for real
theres a big difference between someone opening a bugged chest for rewards over and over again. those people rightly got banned.
and the people who use systems in the game like guild wars in previous phase. they still had to earn the wins, even if it was just a win based off reputation, you still had to earn that
what big guild didnt we war dec you fucking idiot. You speak with zero knowledge TELL ME WHAT GUILD WE DIDNT WAR you absolute moron.
ayo this is an actual dev? If so, then wtf 
this is the guy who made fighter
The game isn't hard, its just grindy. I think more systems like the war rewards should be actually in the game otherwise theres systems no one will fucking touch tbh
cant believe u called us masochists for not having mara blocked when ur talkin the guy that preblocks most people with a tag he doesnt like in discord
he was perfectly clear on his stance. Common sense and engage naturally with content. Spamming all guilds that couldn't fight back for the clearly broken rewards is not engaging naturally with content
I think the entire fucking game should be easier in alpha and ptr should be hell with the main server turned off during ptr testing to incentivize players to test real systems but apparently the devs want everyone grueling through the shitshow that is alpha testing so idk man
SPEAK @dense minnow what big guild didnt we war you fucking loser tell me? ??????? Tell me you fucking mouth breathing zero iq animal
okay yeah then majorly fucked and makes sense why the bans got reversed then, mb
I think PTR should stop wiping so I don't have to beg Keith everytime its up to level the nodes for benches. But I did have to beg intrepid for months for a vendor with materials/recipes on it and we finally got that. Baby steps 
the real test in the alpha atm is the players patience. and since they arent going to respect my time im not going to partake in the shit show it is now. I will still do PTRs because they actually use that data, where as the never use the live games and throw it away because there is a fresh start coming soon so all of this is bad data
you triggered? you guys didn't spam dec any big guilds, you just spam decced newbies. Don't worry new phase is coming, you'll get the opportunity to get deleted again, no need to mald
https://youtu.be/lJGgmAaJjzg?si=H3vgf-KERmDjvbRT&t=199
TIME STAMP 3:19 multiple massive guilds we fought while leveling in these decs NISA/DOPAMINE (ALL 3 GUILDS),
Step into the world of Ashes of Creation with POLAR
The #1 hardcore guild redefining dominance across the MMO landscape.
Founded in 2022, POLAR rose to fame with a legacy of NA firsts and world firsts in Classic WoW—and now, we bring that same unstoppable energy to Ashes of Creation.
This cinematic was captured entirely in-game and ...
i remember when i copy pasted your post and got x5 the ✅ reacts so it was actually me :)
ya youre so dog shit you have no clue what youre saying its pathetic honestly. I couldnt imagine how embarassing your life is you join a discord speak on things you are clueless about with zero evidence. Actual pathetic worm
you know you can have simultaneously regular war decs because of game reasons and on top of that spam guild decs on small guilds to exploit the reward right? 
"they aren't going to respect my time im not going to partake in the shit show that it is now."
yeah dawgy dawg, I haven't played since p1, not really. Like, yeah, I'm a yapper? But I tested tf out of A0, I tested A1, I tested Apoc. A2 is just....a gigantic waste of time with awful leveling, over and over again. Why would I keep releveling? In an experience I don't like? When none of my friends are playing? Sure I feel bad about not playing, a little, but like...nah, I ain't leveling with pugs, and this shit also sucks. Not a single mmo I've ever played has the leveling experience been relevant or worth it save for, sometimes, a decent story. Not once, not ever.
Guild tag hurting important feedback but ill never take it off 
btw, if you'll read all my messages might as well unblock me 
you lied multiple times in the few sentences you post and all proven instantly. Stop typing its pathetic and embarrassing. You are a complete dog shitter obsessed with hating a guild you never interacted with. The sheer envy and jealousy you feel over pixels that cause you to spam lies and misinformation is some of the most pathetic behavior ive seen from even a worm like you. Reevaluate your life you shitter freak.
Blocking is cringe but people will feel the way they feel and occasionally unblock people for what they consider relevant, is what it is
lmfao
I'm jealous of having my characters deleted every phase
Ya deflect you pathetic worm
remind me to have you post my feedback post 
Join Legacy and run the Legacy tag, ur golden then, 
The narrative of what happens in this channel, and the truth debating circle jerk is a completely different perspective of what exists when you're actually playing the game. Not really been my thing this phase.
Coot the goat tester tbh.
are you stupid. your character does get deleted every phase.
Lloyd, go back to being a goon lol
Angel shut the FRICK UP you FRICKEN FRICKER, honestly stop tryna be REASONABLE here, that's MY thing, so FRICK OFF
I goon to shol arena of words ngl
FOOK off you HECKIN STANK butt
I do it so we can all enjoy our dream MMO (My wife is tired of hearing about ashes theorycrafting when she wants to watch her murder mysteries )
Hummm, idk about that.... you seem pretty mild and vanilla so far
GENUINELY offended wtf
god, I'm actually laughing. sad.
Honestly even better idea, just convince me to level to 25 and then test/break stuff with me because considering my track record of posting, I'm never gonna get banned so I will always be able to critique and get responses 💯
great success, honestly a dub, get owned
I'll gladly get you to 25 
Its usually the same freaks spamming misinformation and red herrings. I was persuaded by them before actually interacting with Polar.
Honestly the freaks talking shit about Polar made me want to join more the more I learned what it was like.
will I get perma'd the moment I join for my anti-Polar drives over the many months
Gotta earn my Polar DKP by recruiting 
Im just grabbing the lotion... gimme a sec.
everything needs to be on a vendor, lvling scrolls, gear, mats. respect your players time, and they will actually test the shit you want tested.
instead we get, you need to slow down you leveling its too fast you didnt sleep for 3 days and got there too soon. well now your there, go mine a shit ton of granite because you need a fuckton of zinc/copper for your gear
Oh I will NOT join Polar, if I actually play P3 I'm probably gonna play with Supple because I wanna put Polar in the dirt, but after that if its too one-sided, who knows!
I live for the good fight, and that's all there is
since u stopped for P2 you'll be right on track to use Supple's P2 leveling guide 🤩
well this next phase the casual guilds are gonna have to make a choice. Start discussing the idea of doing politics with polar (the great evil exploiters) or be under the boot of supple who is actually perm cheating (overlays) and mass rmting / indo boosting
Ew. Join another respectable guild like cats.
Can they get me to 25 faster and fight Polar 100v100
i have to believe a cats group was able to beat supple to 25
Too busy enjoying my booze and brushing my beard to do that though! hehehe
idc as long as I get a static group that's not made of dicks, this leveling process is aids
cats really is the most respectable zerg guild atm. they have really upped their numbers, and zombie is doin things. i enjoy my time with cats, both with them and against them
classic dwarf mentallity.. chilling till they are at your gates or worse taking your gold.
gold ale
I'mma be real I think the casuals should chill or rally behind Axiom because Axiom is chill and just let Polar and Supple do their thing
Woah, that is crossing the line!
Plus, we actually have to have a settlement with gates for that to be true hahaah
Over 3 phases Axiom has been a leader in government but I havent seen many wars. Although I do respect them showing up to the 8v8 tournaments and performing.
Axiom cant win with fed voting for supple and all of srixuns puppets
If sunhaven lvls before duunhold, I might say slurs, ngl.
Axiom's got numbers though too, afaik, and if there's a push to rally behind them, I think they could be a third, more neutral contender
Everyone left the anvils bc it was too hard for their soft skinned asses
Thoghli might burn the human vaelune kingdom down
they cant we worked with them this phase only way polar or axiom wins is if we vote together
I've been up here for a month, soft is an understatement
A 1v1 just ain't it for the alpha experience. Its realistic asf for say, a lvl 5 node? Between two hardcores, but I think forcing the idea of a third force of the more relaxed players is the play...personally.
supple + fed is like 300-400 votes.
I for one, welcome our Dwarven overlords.
We don't instigate as much as others because we've been predominately neutral with many groups. We do a lot of scrims, and rally for tropics pvp, and always show when we're invited to sieges etc.
@sick oar U NEED TO COME TAKE GENESIS BACK SO FED LOSES VOTING NUMBERS CAUSE THEY CANT FIGHT
Naw, we just let folks get comfy and come around when they least expect it
ppl thought we were not on and well it has been working for us
Idk, I'll try to talk with Fed before P3 launch, I don't think its happening in Nov so I got time, + I got old lore with Fed I can work with
with more map, itll spread the power out more. but youll always have 3-4 guilds everyone will need to play with, regardless of server choice
Its not your fault no one came to tropics anvils.
The edit: i forgot anvils were a thing and said tropics by mistake.
Nah, not on launch, the theory and idea is that smaller guilds will be able to do their thing and big tier guilds will fight over metros+ their vassal guilds accordingly. The current system is very anti-small guild, but that';s also because of the players currently in the game.
FED + oso peeps + Supple + Aura + the other groups was just cancer coaltion. There was no real shot at good balance, and the content suffered because of it.
RUDE ASS! lol
I would kill for a node in the tropics before deep sea fishing. Imagine the boat content.
yea that idea is not going to happen. it sounds good on paper in a vacuum, but in reality it will not happen. they want citizenship to be the highest for of allegiance too. there is 0%chance citizens will take priority over guild
but yeh I think Axiom is a very solid neutral force that both sides can honestly agree too overall, no?
So yeah, voting with Polar was the best counter to that that could win. And did. But I personally have always hated the large coalition angle in this alpha environment. As someone who loves diplo, it's just boring to me.
I am just waiting for folks to be cool with signing up for the race war I want to have hehehe
What side will you be on.... the dwarves or the elves?!
I think you underestimate influences on launch + map size + guild ego, but that's okay
Its been good data for how to spread out voting and keeping citizens devoted to their home nodes. Hopefully more changes underway
If I'm wrong the game's dead, if ur right, that server is dead, so we'll see how it goes
Pray it's not a global server. I'm bringing a force.
Elves ofc, midgets can hide back in their holes, but ultimately, I am anti-Tulnar
What they really should do is stop giving quest exp to all riverland nodes and make leveling nodes easier and then node creation/destruction can be an actual gameplay loop all over the world and not just riverlands
A force for who?!
here is the #1 reason small guilds will have to play close to big guilds. and big guilds will spread out. leading to about 3-5 big guilds per server
it takes too damn long to level a node, and making buildings/upkeep of them is going to be unrealistic for a small guild without it feeling like a job.
Idk I'm just a guildless coward.
I accept that someone has to be wrong and that someone is you hehehe.
yeah, if they do a fresh start they NEED to fix the vote hopping. With how delayed the nodes were, it just sucked. I don't know if anyone has really communicated to Intrepid exactly what happened that really knows the details of it. But the cd needs to actually work and be longer imo.
I cover a lot of node stuff in my feedback paper, even mentioned Thoghli and the Dwarves in it 
Game is kinda meant to be a kingdom game imo.
Big guilds rule a node, smaller guilds take vassals and play for their nodes and vassals.
Its just not there yet.
It really does not take that long if the settlements were fixed correctly and things did not get reset as much as they did for us.
I don't think you realize the type of guilds that are watching this game to see if its worth playing lmao. I'll give small example. Eve's been around for what, 10 years? 15? They're getting bored. 
If ur not anti-Tulnar ur my enemy, that's all there is 🔪
Hmu this week. I have a lot of feedback i want to give.
I want more comp into the scene, I keep being told XYZ mmo has gigga guilds and Supple was the first to be anything close to competition
'cause AoC is considered a scam to 99% of communities and that's the sad truth
I'll send you the doc, feel free to DM me any feedback on it
Be careful calling enemies to the dwarves ... last time someone woke up the mountain they had to call for help and stayed in town hiding behind guards.
is that the furry race? cause they can be KOS for all i care
If we get beta 1 we get fire, 'cause I've got so many homies I can and will be able to talk into the game if we get a beta 1 🔥 🔥 🔥
2 more years and we might.
Yeah that's the furries who stayed on Verra after everyone left is basically the lore, so I've basically been all about a tulnar genocide since day one, half kidding(mostly not)
FUCK IF I CARE BROTHER THE ONLY REASON YOU MIDGETS WON THE WAR IN WARHAMMER FANTASY IS THE ELVES DIDNT TRY AND I DIE ON THAT HILL 😤
That is the biggest amount of cope I have seen in a while....
Speaking of elves... @placid shadow wya?
They are scared to come out of the trees
I guess I need to make a march down to the riverlands and wake them ninnies up.
I know the lore, and I know why the devs did what they did, but it still makes me sad. Imladrik
(Imladrik was friend to the dwarves don't you dare insult his name.)
That's okay, if I'm not on the Dunhold's partial shitlist by this point I'd be surprised

Are you actually a GS member?
MY ALLY HAS ARRIVED 
I have to go to sleep though
Gray Sentinels? No. If Legacy doesn't play, I'd consider it, but I kinda wanna be in a castle sieging guild, so unfortunately, no rp/pvp guild for me...
Naw, we do not really take discord coms into our grudges lists. We are not that petty and would rather just show up and kill you in-game.
letting me down...
Just like an elf will do every time
It's okay, one has to go down quite a bit to get to the levels of a dwarf 

Good to know you like to go down 😏
Yeah. I just saw the mutual server. I was a part of them and had been defending them as much as possible from Polar psychopaths but they sleighted me this phase so I no longer harbor good will to them. I was going to join the dwarves against you if you were in GS. For now we'll stay neutral.
I thought you were in GS. Nah, I am a longtime RPer, and so want to maintain okay connections with GS for the inevitable launch, but I want to fight more then I want to RP, plus, I don't tend to get along with most public RPers anyways.
When I went back to BDO, I was in a RP/PvP merc guild, the one such guild on the server who had hands, so I'll occasionally dabble with them if circumstances permit.
It still saddens me that I'm pretty sure the overall rp community is going to flee from Ashes SO fast when the time comes 
Last rides are not especially rp-friendly 
Yeah i was in GS until a month into phase 1. Love the RPers. GS was promised to be a fighting guild but I didnt see it much and left.
Hey, we are still here!
Nah, they won't, they'll designate their own server and be mostly safe, it just probably won't be my server rip
I don't know how to RP. Teach me the ways.
would you consider yourselves RPvpers?
Play DnD, step one introductions
I could, but you would have to first best me in a drinking contest
DnD is a great way to start.
Make your character and put yourself in their shoes. If diplo is your angle then a good start is with a diplomacy background
https://youtu.be/emfXXNllidQ?si=9WbWD9_P5_2NZuAs
@calm saddle Should be majority of the fights from that night
Ok, so maybe this is where I'm fucking up. Never played DnD.
I meaaaaaaaaan... Come launch, if there aren't a lot of servers then they still have to face off against whatever b/c-listers that want freefarm pre-first mergers 
and it kinda goes into the game itself rather than just that 
Yeah imo the idea behind a rp-pvp guild involves said rp guild having hands and 99% of guilds and players can't do that role. The one guild in BDO I joined could, and I know that, because I fought them a lot while I was in a pvp guild, and I learned how to have hands in BDO, so I had respect for them.
One day I'll test GS too and see if they're up to par, but that won't be until b1
Ashes is honestly great RP entry MMO because shit you do in the world legit becomes lore lmao. The wars, diplomacy, etc.
I'm in 
100%
We are lighter on the actualy rp things in game but have some heavy rp bones and structure and is why I say we are semi hardcore bc once we have a rp reason to war or do some shit then it stays for a while
best mmo documentary is about RPers fighting for their server https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXjGE-lWrt0
'The War For Antica' is a documentary covering two of Tibia’s first world wars from 2003 to 2006, namely the 'Last Action Heroes vs. Alliance' and 'Dark Side vs. Alliance'.
Many thanks to everyone who contributed. :)
I do not own any of the music featured in this video.
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Ive watched this so many times. Its so fucking good
@echo mulch Maybe a lot to ask, but since you were previously in a rp/pvp guild and do have hands, it is the duty of us who like said environments to help condone said environments, so I expect ur help on launch to help breed and occasionally protect individuals 💪
how much of the time are you "in character" or whatever. Like how much of your guild chat is RP stuff vs. the normal guild chatter?
Breed? 
As in teach them how to fight you SLOOT
I'm in Polar. We're the villains, you didnt know?
You are, but that doesn't mean all of you are the villains, and if you can't be your own person, who are you, really? Just a bot? Nah, ur a streamer, you can't be a bot.
So shut the fuck up and help me, dumbass.
I'll 100% be breeding individuals.
Now we're getting into ERP. I do know how to do that... cough.
In character only happens when others interact with rp. Otherwise in coms we are goofing off and being degens. Myself I am rp ready at any time but when we are doing in game things a lot of it is OOC.
If they can do a coordinated rp walk together they can be trained to press W together... 
ABSOLUTELY not and this is TERRIBLE advice do NOT listen to Vy
Lloyd I forgot the video I made for the ashes summit was on my youtube and they changed the music I used 
Got u fam
I seeeeee.
I said rp walk not rp crawl 
Dmca is bad mmkayyyy?
lot of folks prob think we are In character all the time and that is not the case. We are just ready for it to be the case at any time.
Chads proect RPers, and teach RPers how to fight, and no one will ever convince me otherwise, our casuals who embrace the world fully deserve to do so 
This was peak
and they adding random boomer music over it https://youtu.be/eSqtEv-Tz_0?si=RERjwUCc5aU9DWkL

I actually have a video going through last minute edits and working on a series of all the phase 3 leveling, fights, and wars. I hope people like it.
I like having RP guilds on the server. The diversity of guilds makes it fun.
Considering this was posted by someone with a very similar name to you, are you the culprit adding boomer music over it...?
which is why having dedicated RP servers suck
Hey, we were rp walking in lines before there was a follow function and made it look good
Hype
No the tavern peeps had to change the music cause copyright
(understandable but fuck I got yelled at LMAO)
Nah this ain't even talk, I legit got asked by a group of RPers on pirate island back in bdo to show mercy on them for showing up on our spot. The reason? Their spot got taken by another group on another channel.
So what did I do? I channel hopped, wiped the group by myself(4v1), and gave them their spot back so I didn't have to kill them on my spot. Idgaf, this is my island, we respect RPers who try to better themselves.
Enjoyed the convos I shall now go bed rot till the melatonin wins the battle 
I LIVED FOR THE FIGHT ON PI RAAAAAHHHH 😤
Hey folks know, I am down to clown even if we are not geared or lvled. I do it out of principle bc my character will not be dishonorable and run away from the soft skins
I cant wait until I get to the part in editing where I was RPing people in highwayman hills level 25 with carphin weapons (before removal) for their pants or saying polar on top in exchange for their lives.
dwarves are natural sprinters rather than runners, after all.
Goodnight king 🤴 ✨️ 😴
That is it, KOS lmfao
GN sirrah, its always a pleasure 
If a Gimli quote makes Vy kos, add me to the list, I die on that hill
Naw I just kid bc Vy is a dainty little thing
idk man, she doesn't fuck around. I wouldn't mess with her.
If she doesnt try to stab you, does she truly love you?
Good, I wish she would step into our lands
Vy is a little insane but she's funny so she gets breaks
some women are like this. I'm glad you understand.
Starting to sound like ERP to me.
You wish bbygrl
THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING ANGEL DO NOT CONDONE IT AAAAHHHH
no comment
Lmao I'm glad to see ya'll, and you, still around, hoping to see you all on launch
They call me a gaslighter but gaslighting isnt real... theyre just crazy and I like them like that.
Nothing wrong with a sword to the neck eh @echo mulch ?
well. I am ALSO glad we're still here. haven't crashed and burned or merged or imploded or bled out... yet. XD
If shes not like this, i'm out:
#anime #kagenojitsuryokushaninaritakute #shadowgarden #theeminenceinshadow
Technically small merge with uhh whatever their nuts were, Goat's guild, but otherwise, going ham, and I'm just, yanno, proud and happy and giddy to see it still going so well and strong
FACTS!!!
Makes me feel less old 
Emnity, yeah. lol surprised you still remember that. Was like 7 or 8 years ago.
Mostly because I was a former member of Enmity, but yeh
ahhhh. Makes sense. I only remember you being in Mutiny.
Did a lot of guild hopping back then but tried to stop because I didn't like the rep that came with it
Guild hoppers are kinda cringe
S P Y
yeh but this was years and years ago and it was just guilds who were supposedly hc and active and just...weren't, unfortunately.
The early AoC days most guilds just existed in discord. But somehow still managed to have constant drama.
It does not count if you are only in the guild for a month or two to see vibes and how they are are though
All hail AngelCry
Drama bc they were bored lol
I'd tend to stay longer because I was a different person back then who tried to give the benefit of the doubt but remember this was like 6+ years ago so
eyyy Zuko, whats up
Missing my team, my day 1s💔
I just remember being in vc with a bunch of random people one night, back when people would hang out in vc everyday in this discord. And you started talking and I was like, hold up.... I did not expect this guy to have an accent. Idk why that stuck. lol.
best team
I don't remember this at all, but lol, that happens WAY more often then you'd think, lol, I get that question so often I have a predetermined response to it + predetermined responses engrained in my head
lmfao
I'm so sad I missed the first guild meeting and mr, "I own a car, " I wish I'd been there holy fuck
This chat became way too wholesome for shol arena of words.
sorry, I will leave now
dw it'll get worse again eventually + mods only tolerate a certain circumstance of toxicity 🙂
that was peak. lmao. so many memes over the years. XD
mr I owned a car became a lasting meme for like half this discord's lifecycle tbh, that shit was prime, absolute god tier meme, I'm sad it died out in the current gen
There once was a time when we could talk about politics (many years ago) 
That would fix it right up 
Thoghli youre a big beautiful bitch. I hope you have exuberant amounts of fine ale and mead and wake up to a harem of bearded dwarven women (and men....?)
Nah I can make this chat toxic immediately if people want, just say the word
Ngl, that made me blush a little bit.
I know what gets the dwarves going.
Bird
Plane
cloud
shut the FRICK UP
Make me.... 😏
🔪 I'll fricken frick you motherfricker! 🔪
D-do you promise?
Only if @echo mulch gets to watch
Sorry to inform you... but I am not a beta cuck.
If ur still in Polar ur enemy #1...so yes 
Too bad....
I'll Frick you so hard it'll look non-consensual but you definitely asked for this.
I wonder if the NTR song would still be allowed in here 
Damn, Tmugsy joining voice for RMT deals in the official discord?
PROBABLY NOT DONT TEST IT
Woah, that is wild lol
I've posted it quite a few times before but that was... 1/2/3 years ago 
Send to me cause curious
Fuck do you mean wild, Polar has been confirmed taking part in RMT since P1 and they let King Rat himself DA join them under an alt after he got absolutely bodied and lost all reputation when he got fully outed for selling accounts/RMTing and Enveus disbanded and he sold the discord out from under them
yeah mods are getting wilder
You got Polar confused with Supple. I know its hard. Theres only like 3 major guilds on the server, but one day you'll get it right.
Unless you have verified proof you should just chill tbh
Suck my fat nuts tbh
DROP YOUR PANTS RIGHT NOW. I WILL SUCC UR NUTS RN BET.
That is not verified proof and cannot be taken as conducive and thusly you should not spread false info
On G??
No? Why would I gargle on a moss monsters nards? I might be lewd, but i'm not disgusting.
I really feel like it has to depend on the shape and variety of moss monster 
VY GO TO BED
A shambling mound would be superb - exquisite even, and you cannot convince me otherwise 
You were meant to have my back like an hour ago and you said you were going to bed so go to bed. !! @hushed grove
Two exquisite mounds with a rock hard...

I was going to keep going but idk how far the mods actually will let me go.
Probably forever as long as ur not sus
I mean they did let me get away with this...
You should prolly not keep testing....
Nah that was one of the first ones in the chat. Its gucci
Yeah but you have a Polar tag so ur already more suspect, gotta be cautious
TRUEEEEEE. THIS ONE GETS IT.
He can't be suspect though... he is in polar?
I get it because you apes deserve it, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna warn the genuine ones lmao(MY TAG IS WORSE THEN URS JUST NONE OF MINE ARE HERE HHAHAHAHAHA @echo mulch )
I should go to sleep, I have to go to work in a few hours lmfao
Same lmao
GO TO SLEEP
Make me uwu 😏
dogshit gif I hope you stumble over nothing at work you bitch 🖕
Stop flirting with me, gonna make someone jealous
I hope you stub your toe and then bang your head against the wall making you recoil back to stepping on legos and then falling down into the splits.
that didnt count
cats bring 30+ for 10 - "just the game bro u war deck someone stronger dont be surprised"
we bring in 7 players from another guild - "yall are so pathetic having to ask for help from another guild to triple your numbers"
so did they triple numbers or are you just coping
and what was Vice's raid?
?
? Was this Vice's raid? 'Cause I see 23. You mention 30+ for 10, so what's the story here
i stand corrected looks like we had 15 to their 29 (dustys POV, then my POV) pre-war
they have 8 clerics to our 2 at this point - feeling pretty good
So final count was 29 vs 23 and cats complained you brought in another guild?
If so, enemy had more and more clerics, based win
The problem was hiding behind a load screen
Which we Can Also confirm in dustys stream
We intentionally had to take fights that were bad for us from the start to not have another 0 0 war
Unless vice only wants to see 0 0 wars for the future

why does he sound like he's about to cry every time he tries to shit talk?
Honestly thats just how the game is right now. If you want fair number then just ask for scrims it's not that hard.
Until they bring in arenas you wont have a fair fight. Also 23 to 29 aint that bad honestly with how dead the server is
The reality is that anything you say after you take your guild to the top of Carph and sit on the teleporter is irrelevant. It’s a bitch made move. You guys guild dec, full well knowing our numbers because you were in Dusty’s stream.
We offered numbers match in shout, in global, in Dusty’s stream, in tells. Stop spinning this numbers cope narrative.
You then called EBC and Amnesty to come and fight for you, they didn’t even war Dec because they wanted to exploit another stupid feature of fighting outside of event.
The whole guild Dec is stipid with an hour spin up anyways. We easily farmed 100 kills before you ran to carph.
Nobody can just say hey good fights! Lmao
it's an open world pvp game. it'll never be fair fights. just say GG and move on
In the end…take your W and farm your clips. But don’t act like VICE is a PvP guild anymore.
This is arena of words. I already PMed asking to set up scrims with VICE haha. I generally don’t get mad after shit like this. It is always GGs I just would rather have good PvP content
idk but if you guys are gonna sit here and compare raid sizes with screencaptures you've all lost the plot lol
this discord was more interesting when polar was around
Here’s my take- it was a banger of a night of content. It had its wax and wanes of moving around etc but that’s the beauty of it!
Is moving Carph for a regroup and a defensive move the fairest thing! No..
Neither is bringing 2x the number of people either.
I think there is a pretty big difference between bringing numbers from the guild you dec and borderline exploiting to gain advantage. But the good fights we did have were fun.

I mean we can go around in circles about slimy moves. You use the moves you have. Sitting in Carph 4th floor was literally 1/8th of the night. The bulk of the PvP was fought outside. It was a fun night
GGs tho hope nobody around too salty afterwards.
Just Polar 😂😂😂.
I kid, I kid.
Listen RhinoStar was ganking the shit out of us lmao
He wasent tagged lol
TBH multiple guilds/Players having fun in larger scale events is a good thing. Its the intended design
Signs of constipation
gotta take some metamucil when you get to be 40 like that
I dont think hes 40, imagine 40 and having voice cracks like that
I’m 21 with 45 years experience
but does your voice crack. that's the real question?
This gaming shit , been doing it soo long I forgot all the things I could teach, the sweats think they hit the skill ceiling but forgot there’s levels to this shit they can’t reach
Nope , not one of the squeaky voiced stuttering nerds
@scarlet pier your PVP officer gonna keep Dodging my scrims? gonna set it up properly?
And in regards to this war we did not ask you to number match becouse we played in a way that secured us victory. and we even won running you down. OVER and OVER again. you guys got droped today. Take a L Unpuff your chest. and get zombie im my DM's to set it up. ill wager 100g best of 3 10 v 10
1 amnesty and 3 / 4 ebc's joined the vice war today. Stop copeing
@scarlet pier cat got your tounge?
Nah I’m just trying to understand the mental gymnastics of sitting up at the top of a teleporter full knowing we can’t push it. While also being too poor, your words, to war Dec.
@scarlet pier 5 mins on reply dammn dude tok your time, chat GPT not got a response?
hahaha im not war decing with 1 person online. thats actully stupid. Kind of like you bringing your ball up the tele
Idk you’ve tagged me twice in 30 seconds. My old as fingers can’t move that fast.
Purple did the same thing to us yesterday. and we just gg'd the war. you ran it down mid. Not our fault
Yea…using the same strats as polar and purple really puts you on top…surprised you didn’t drop tag and log out too.
Your wrong. we stayed on and beat you into the ground. like the cat nip you swallow daily.
You didn’t do anything. Toner is the only person in either of your guilds worth a shit.
Fresh cat nip is pretty good lol
I shot called the whole thing. I am the reason you got clapped kid.
Nah. I was never dead.
Funny, Toner did more solo than your whole squad combined. Maybe ask him for lessons instead of excuses.
Yea. Toners great. We love Toner. He doesn’t hide
@scarlet pier ill gladly 1v1 you but bard vs mage is just unfair for you, im happy to run this back when your free. maybe just maybe you might only die every time. When you can actully put up a fight. Then you can talk. Untill then GTFO the shit talk
I’m alright. You’re boring
you just lost. TY
As much as I’d love to sit and talk. I’m sure it’s your bedtime. Hop in mommy’s pouch and thank VICE for giving you any amount of content.
What do you mean?
Brother its an open world game
Why are you upset that you decked on somebody who has less people than you
And less people showed up and kicked the shit out of you

Thundr you guys decked us. What?
Dodges scrims, loses siege, loses war, talks shit...
Actually talking to a brick war i don't think people should give you the time of day.
That being said, nothing against your guild, huge respect for zombie calling that siege, but you make them look bad.
can we just measure cooks in a war ?
Cats are delusional, Love PVPing at 2 am
Toner enjoyer? Zombie still dodging him tho. 
I hope he's 40 with that female pattern baldness
HE WASENT READY
honestly tho i enjoy toner too
Just gathering is boring
if only we would have some pvp scrims not being dodged ayy?
PTR can kiss my ass
so many bug issues that dont get addressed, just shove into alpha live
gibe us bugged fb
I hope the RMT and Dupers get banned
I dunno if any of you guys are still logging in, But it's fucking bad
unfortunately gonna be waiting a bit for that bro lol i really dont think intrepid wants to burn cash on that yet
Ideally theyll start building out actual tools for that and being a little bit more proactive before beta
cant be hard to have gms do sting operations, im sure theres plenty of people willing to volunteer for that too
i havent logged onto live in a bit but i heard the economy is even more fucked than it was before i took a break
almsot a gold for a stack of common copper, nothing wrong.
You literally make gold by just picking things off the ground 🥱
Ashes of Venezuela
I dont think venezualans can compete with the dupe thats been happening unless they are the ones doing it.
after hearing what they did in OSRS i wouldnt doubt it, probably makes them a killing too
10 gold early wipe can probably feed them for a week lmao
oh well, intrepid will hit the reset button eventually. just need time to cook up meaninful changes
when you do the conversion + time that is required to mass an amount of gold as I said unless they are the ones duping or somethingrelated it doesnt match the sweat shop work that is required.
does intrepid know about the dupe
osrs is botting + multi, in ashes is another beast.
i srsly think they need to ban china from access or give them their own server.
that would help a lot, its done wonders for other games
id suggest putting them in OCE but the aussies would lose their shit dealing with that
EU itself cant populate a server, OCE cant either.
im talkin closer to launch, definitely wouldnt last long now
still annoyed EU players cried for their own server and just didnt play on it lol except for cartel and holiday
Launch? so 2032?
2028 
Don't worry guys. New PoE league coming. Gold sellers migrating soon!
I rather play solo games or some other social stuff
@shrewd edge
I forgot to record some of the dumb shit we were doing in flex.
Ah, I see they found the way to settle the moons of Verra. This new transporting technology is a "Leap" for all living kind!
Can't say the same 🙁 Playing as a Power Point presentation is not a good feeling for a siege (and it still rubber band like crazy)
There are some Client x Server optimizations that are required, otherwise you can't use any movement kind skill - otherwise you de-sync 🙁
How would you fix vote hoping ?
One thing that I saw working now - and having many people not wanting to leave citizenship, is the node perks after you start to build your reputation.
I agree that the citizenship CDs need to work properly.
Then this might be the way: Good Perks + Real Penalty for leaving + Large CD for dropping ?
But then, I would say the same for guild, dropping guild CDs should work properly as well, and be as long as node citizenship. As well as making so guild perks are good so it matters if you are outside a guild or not.
PS: And you would still have some ppl hoping over, after a vote, drop citizenship and wait for the next one.
This will keep going until monthly elections happen at the same time.
You don't like me but if you want comments particularly on current state of macroeconomics in the game I'm happy to contribute
They're over a full phase behind on getting more than 1 settlement election type implemented. Once zerging votes isn't the only way for a guild to control a settlement, the issue will fix itself.
shit talking ebc and vice just doesnt hit at all 
Who said I don’t like you twin
I vibe with Timolope and Srix at times 
We've had it out a few times but all water under the bridge.
Timolope can burn as far as I'm concerned. Srix is aight.
What in the brokeback mountain is this.
Gotta do something significant to shit talk my guy, already failed to back up the discord yapping so many times.
yeh ur right making ebc and amnesty log off for the rest of the night with even numbers and quit the guild doesnt count as piss
Sounds like you're having nightmares.
Honestly it might be worst.
We have a single election type currently, which is the majority voting one that is Scientific (?) Settlement.
- Economic one would be the first to bid 1k gold (since that's the current cap)
- Martial would be the best on pvp during a certain time, group or solo, not yet stated.
- Divine: The one who does more questing inside the node area or for the node (still with blank spaces to be decided).
I want polar back what is this dog shittalk bro 
were fighting a crafting bitch made guild cuz steven doesnt have a spine to stand against the shitter who quit 
Man's 100% having nightmares, making stuff up.
I'm just saying it takes a lot more coordination to capture a divine node than "everyone drop cit and go get it back at this new node we're capturing".
Everything is weighted toward large guilds dominating, no question, but with at least there's some stuff here that is higher threshold.
Having Godchi join Rats with Scabs gave a boost of PVP confidence that was unearned.
Imagine testing every single one of them…
I dont even want to think on how long it all will take
Yeah, that is for sure, I do wonder how the quest count will work, will it be "during the month", or "all the time", and also, what kind of quests ? would it be comissions ? quest board ? or what exactly ?
Some of those are still broken - fish for example, you can just trade fish, deliver and done ,quest completed 😐
I don't know if it's "quest count" or "commissions credit earned" or what, but if they want it to work as intended it should absolutely be a situation where it's not just turn-ins so people can't just buy their way to mayor by doing a massive number of raw mats turn-ins.
Could be for economic nodes but for other nodes maybe something else
I'm talking about divine nodes specifically, I don't want the quests you're able to turn in to be "put 20 rubies in the box"
Guys wrong text channel for these constructive conversations.
Go fuck yourself Bam (feel better?)
Make sure to point them towards Dune and their endgame system for House control. Has similar issues they are trying to fix there where the quests are the same from week to week and are just turn in of materials. So the guilds stack and store, and the same objectives are completed within seconds of a server up.
Fuck that you're stupid and purple names have dickydo disease, it is known
But yeah it has me a little worried that they're scope creeping with yet another event type, supposedly with a marketing push, and the archetype system is less than half, settlements are less than half done, the economy needs another overhaul... just doesn't feel like a solid foundation and/or first-things-first type of approach.
What guild are you in...;)
He is rats with scabs.
Oh bet.
Ebc Amnesty and vice just mad that if they dont Call the whole alliance to beat us they get rolled
EBC/Amnesty been playing together for too many phases, I know you guys want Polar back so can hide behind tmugsy.
Vice needs out of war helpers to beat us
Just become the same guild so we dont have to use 50g for you to log and leave guild
Am masochist but the amount of times and ways you guys keep getting beat we getting close to stockholm syndrome.
Nobody can ever say HEY GF+++
Hey GF 😊
I mean we did but they insist on the narrative they are actually good.
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With the Guards on the Siege literally one shotting us and wiping us at banner at least x4 they still think they good.
I was referring to Mur
True
We had Half raid unable to play cause of respawns softlocking us
EBC is the crafting guild they arent good enough to join the main roster 
The guards on the siege were worth five to ten players each.
You dec the craft guild and still lost to it which was only me at the time 🤣
Tents near entraces, guards one shotting banner, black screen/spawn locked. Go on....
Your guild is dogshit your players are dogshit you guys play with bitch made behaviour and log off when you get decced. If you're arent good enough to play the game just stick to crafting and dont punch above your weight lil pup
Get wiped with more numbers vs me calling with 5fps.
Yes show me a fight with where it was 80 v 40 thatll prove you're not bitch made!!
Dont you like fighting 30 vs 10?>
You guys lose outnumbering, you lost even numbers what else you want, offered every scrim/team/duel pvp scenario and still dodge.
I like fighting even numbers but when we did that with EBC/amnesty they logged off 
So does that change on a nightly basis or
Dw when i get home i Can send a clip of ebc leaving guild
lol You guys are so hostile mang
Trapped rats.
Bitch made behaviour from a bitch made guild. Dogshit will always remain dogshit nothing is new
I messaged every guild on the defending side as a Thanks for assisting Rats with Scabs 
Ofc you did cuz ur an attention seeking lil pup 
Did you get the validation your daddy never gave you?
Nah I did because you guys didnt, you rather sit there making excuses for the loss, I went as a sign of appreciation for the content.
Keep taking L's man.
Only respectable pvp guild still playing is purple
we yapped we shit talked we fought and when the score counted we won and they fucking stayed like the chads that they are then more yapping then ggs and love
Replying to reach other in here 
Cant talk to ebc your shittalk is to boring
Keep replying to each other because anything else you get dogged on 🤣
"aRe yOu scCaReD, we brought 80 people and won vs your 40 haHA losers 🤪 "
Keep bringing more guilds so we Can run out of charges faster
exactly
Ebc aint deccing shit cause they poor so we fund their only content
Broke crafting guild with no personalities 
Man must be having nightmares.
We have used more than 100g on ebc Amnesty
Still havent seen a dec from ebc Amnesty atleast decced once
my guy just used 1k gold on decing ur dumb ass node and 3 war decs on your prime time that your friends kept running with the excuse of "twitch con"
beyond delusional 🤣
Why would they guild dec the guild that put them on a leash and dragged them through the mud after butt fucking them so hard that they had to sleep from exhaustion
Here's the shit talk I come here for. No more of this well-reasoned calm discussion.
3 guild decs thats so many Im proud of you
Rats with Scabs master of dodging.
who Needs decs. FLAG UP
We all know flagging up is broken fighting in wars is Much better dont have to settings check
funny how toner was asking dusty when he will be available for scrims, dusty told him anytime but next sunday because of twitch con >> ebc proceeds to guild dec on sunday when most of leadership went to twitch con
dogshit fucking guild
They dont flag up theyre bitch made
Sadly ebc cant afford the decs so we dont get quality pvp unless we pay for their content
funny of you to assume we would get quality even after paying for their content 
True its gonna be mole hunting like the last few times
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bonking ebc until they loss all members
low tier shitter guild with low tier banter giving shit tier pvp content lame ass phase
This happens so frequently with multiple guilds its kinda annoying.
I'm all for the fighting in chokes at a disadvantageous number and seeing if you can kill more than your ball gets killed for type of fights but that happened like once this phase for us.
Every other time its bring a huge mass for clout and shit talk in global. And if they wait it out and start pvp in the open world then shitters just drop guild.
Honestly its surprising amnesty actually would do that. Tim has fought us 40v40 multiple times this phase and we've even had 5v5s and 8v8s during guild wars and had a cheering section watching the fair fights with Amnesty.
Idk whats worse, they making up shit or lloyd chiming in.
Always assumed it would have a different style of quests akin to dailies than commissions. Ex: Destroy XYZ named mob in this POI for a larger chunk of credit than say turning in a kill 10 wolves commission
Bam doesnt know What a clip is its fine
It's open world PvP so it's expected but to hide behind supple's cock and pretend like the fucking is happening with your own is fucking bitch made honestly.
Also EBC is just a shitter guild that amnesty couldnt give a fuck about so they just logged off to not lose face on the even numbers
Oh my got I got a clip of someone in the crafting guild droping tag, theres clips of ppl in Rats with Scabs droping too we just dont care lol Take the L quiet man

Show em then
Im sure if we asked for scrims theyd do it though but at this point its bad blood
The issue with this game is that there are so few guilds wars feel way more important/impactful than they actually are. If you had more guilds losing wars wouldn’t matter.
Yeah its kinda funny seeing the cats vs aussie stuff cause I've loved Tim the Enchanter since phase 1 haha
You have tim calling rats with scabs out just have to scroll up, making up shit when OCE is asleep you guys are 100% comedy 🤣
You grow balls when OCE is asleep but when you get called out in your prime time is run. Rats with Scabs special Dodge maneuver.
I wish there was anything it's just 99% discord pvp vs bam cuz hes unemployed and socially unwanted the rest is just EBC dropping guild and logging off
ebc is S tier at starting open world conflict getting wiped once and logging cause its 2 am
thats the almost none of wars vs ebc go above 10
The veredict is confirmed, rats with scabs got beaten so many times within 30 days is stockholm syndrome.
"grow balls when OCE is asleep"
- Guild decs when we say we wont be available, which is like 4 am NA time and call it primetime NA
- Guild decs when we have even number then logs off 20 mins later when they get dragged through the shitter
bam was proud of beating cats 0-2 after his guild logged
Our leadership is gonna be at twitchcon man, we have 20 online vs EBC man, stop beating us man
Bam I'm not gonna lie it feels like your life is so miserable if you're here talking shit after your guild just logged off after every guild dec, do you not have anything better to do?
Oh we getting personal now
Well as the person whos been breasfeeding you attention cuz no one else cares about you I feel like I should know
"Bam is bulling my guild so now I must start leaning into personal subjects"
ebc wouldnt have content if cats didnt dec you
"Bam can't spell bullying" 😔
god this guild is fucking boring
Do you even do anything else besides trading to be typing in here?
i just laugh at u tbh
oh another rats with scabs.
its not only cats that laugh at u brother, youre a meme
EBC Stands for Evacuate Before Conflict
Streamer guild vs Convict Island Guild first to ten stream it on twitch
Ngl this discord should have an activity check to prevent people that dont play the game from yapping
Did you get out of the node yet? Stop trying to scam people ok.
😂 are u mad i scammed you? its okay youll live its only pixels
Lemony corrupting on me with a green crate was way more exciting than all of the PvP EBC + amnesty provided
10/10 would watch
Bro you gotta corrupt on whites
maybe if we corrupt on ebc they will log on
Broke record.
No one logs on to save their crate runners tbh. I just wish I could get blight down to do more.
Or people that rmt
Or people that yap only when POLAR quits the game 👍
PvP at KT 10g into the node buy in … surely this gets em
If that's targeted at me, I'll have you know I yap a lot more often than that 😂
Nah that mf knows who he is
PvP betting and death rolling on the side while rolling sandstone and granite at the metalworker's!
GAMBA GAMBA GAMBA
pretty sure those are already iin game
have you been to RoS? isn't that the abomination there?
ok . not sure how this chat works so here i go
you all are poopoo heads and cant click buttons in the correct order
did i do it right ?
Yeah well you are a dirty trash can full of poo
MODS , HURRY HE HURT MY FEELINGS BAN HIM
No mods hurry ban him for talking in all caps
click the buttons?
all caps really bro? grow up
yeah you're gonna get down bad like @sick oar 🙁
oh btw , knew id find you here , lets say i get my hadns on a legendary tempering kit for weapons , would you be interestted in buying?
I might have decond somones stuff after the messed up a corruption kill to spite them .... so lets say maybe i have the ability to make one LOL
I THINK HE'S TIMED OUT DUE TO BIG GIRTHY THICC WORDS
Give an example
VICE & community vs Cats community in ashes of creation wars.
VICE won both wars of course.
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this was a good one
who fkn tagged me here
nobody.
i got a notification
paranoia
lol the names
Well watched the video, another rats with scabs L while outnumbering whos surprised?
Polar banned for exploiting big girthy words.
Can you be more specific?
Spamming caps as an answer won’t suffice I need an actual example
I got you, bro.
Generally I just jump off buildings and thats how it happens.
From what i gather EBC dec cats offpeak and Cats dec EBC offpeak, this awkward time difference. You two need to organise a time and me and I'll pack the popcorn.
Bruh, cats or OCE just need to fight at degen hours. That's what we do. Their prime is our degen.
I saw that message, 4:44am aedt
I went to bed 2am last night and im here decomposing at work haha
The sieges are lunch time on the weekend for us i think they could just dec post next siege that'd be cool
Cats DEC ebc when is 3am OCE time, EBC dec cats x3 when 6pm~10pm EST not the same buy the narrative you want, nobody cares if your leaders are on twitchcon or your aquarium is on fire, is your primetime and you have 20 members online.
"Dusty is at twitchcon we cant rally"
f6? someone was slurring
All i said was uwu
fanboy XD
I am getting a lot of pm's about this one lol. I hear the streamer trying to change the narrative of what happened again?
Funny, because I have the full vod, I mostly edit'ed out walking respawns if anything. I tried to keep most of the war in the video to give all the facts of what really happened.
Don't need to twist lie or bend the facts to fit my argument unlike this streamer is doing.
Video an Vod speaks for itself.
I don't need to gaslight and be egotistical , like he is.
The only thing that honestly bugged me, is that you guys conveniently left out all the times we asked to numbers match when the score counted. Thats being disingenuous to the "facts".
And thanks for leaving in the killed by Xop ❤️
Also Guard Wizard cooked on that bridge Hooooly
Mage wet dream
why would I edit that out? I am not your guild leader an just make shit up . I tried being nice to him to a few times now, guys just a asshat. Can't even be a human off stream in DMs tbh. Even after that I reached out again recently to talk about game stuff an feedback etc. an still being a asshat .
some people just have brainrot
I mean ill yap all day for luls but I actively try not to be an asshat in DMs, I hope thats not the case
at least you talk to me like I am a human being and not constantly trying to talk shit and maintain some dumb ass persona online.
Because at the end of the day, anyone who is still left on this server is doing gods work every time they log in
guys guys guys
sure but lost all respect for your leader after the wild shit he was making up last night
what is going on here
why is cats camping the portal spot??? in a war
I will start a fire in this garage if you come in here (mizkif taught me)
Damn, I stopped myself from making a mizkif reference like 10 mins ago....

