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idk about that, but i definitely think patches need to be pushed to ptr before live server. even if its only for 24 hours
I mean PTR feedback is there, do they even look?
Didnt the whole process bench issue was reported on PTR and still came to live?
yeahhh
Anyway just vibing here on Ashes of Gathering getting no dopamine or joy from hitting resources at least 2h a day because the game is intended to be "crafting" oriented.
i have faith the pvp will come back
(greifing the largest pvp oriented guild did not help that btw)
PvP is here just kinda ruined if you dont swipe looks like.
agreed. ive been critical of the devs and moderations actions often times, but ive never once been critical of their intent. this is a game theyre creating because they want to create it, not because their boss tells them they need to make it or get fired. theyre not amazon or blizzard employees just working on the next cash cow for the studio.
theyll get it right given enough time.
thats a major stretch
It is a fraction
i mean, prices go up from RMT sure. Go sell gatherables or do whatever you do cause the prices are up that means youre up too.
bro ive been spamming to fix node rep - game will feel so much better when you need rep to vote and guilds can actually level nodes
I appreciate that, we have been reset so much it’s like a ex gf that we can’t dump
ok we all know a certain guild is all swiping but i never see you guys say anything in fact you are allied with them 🤔
ya it was rough watching that shit but i have high hopes for nov
We will not hold our breath but as you know we dwarves are here to stay long term
rmt is cancer to this game in particular tho really need to do something bc gold = power/progression its VERY BAD
man its like that in every game, will always be a thing. Just a never ending cat and mouse
Dude anyone with disposable income is swiping is not a guild thing.
nah its not wow private servers have gms and they nuke ppl for gold buying. Gold buying unless through them is a legit ban lmfao company just has to care enough to hire gms and not ai shit
You think these gamer dads wanna sit and grind rocks for 4h a day?
if they continued working at the same pace when do you think they would complete the map
Only 4 hours, that is weak
i used to give a shit, i just play and have fun. Still shit on RMTers and cheaters, surely they feel dumb af when they lose
hopefully new years 2027
ye i feel that, sometimes i wish this game was full loot drop so the RMTers can buy loot but just lose it just as fast
Their dopamine comes from getting things that are max stats they couldnt care less about you killing them man
that ends up putting a dollar sign on fights, been there done that. Its coo coo
i like killing them
Anyway, gotta hit resources and watch telenovela on the side
theyve had people here for several months scouting shit out and playing with other guilds..... ironically they even had members playing in polar during 2.5 
Yeah those members were a big help thanks @half coral 🤣🤣🤣
can confirm do not care
Yap yap yap we rmt yap yap we ruined our own fun yap yap yap every day it’s the same cope
well shit I don't know if admiting it is the play
Was sarcasm phoenix
pvps been p fun, watching polar melt down and disband in aoc was p fun
same 
being in a huge alliance then refusing to pvp (denying content) to the only other guild looking to fight you then griefing them out the game in this small ass community is not my idea of fun
lashout moment
wb is boring, polar or no polar there is boring idk what this huge alliance you talking about tbh
am i missing something?
you tell me something and ill tell you something
fed, aura, supple, amnesty, and probably a myriad of other guilds voting for eachother and not pvping eachother
you are 100% missing something, only alliance there is EBC/Amnesty
all raising their pitchforks over fucking crates and carphin weps like a bunch of dog water noobs that are mad they didnt figure it out first
we often tussle with those guilds you mentioned there for resources n etc
well good, happy for you
I think the only thing you got it right is the server organization when comes to voting/node system ( which node makes x or y )
which if relied on Polar you would have no benches as shown in previous phases.
from my experience, people get the wrong message when you do them one favor or group with them for one thing. they think theyre friends and the majority of these GMs will take it to the point where theyll just stop pvping over some BS agenda and it just kills the content for guilds
unless you want EBC/Amnesty to break their long years of alliance just so theres "more pvp"
nah we gladly tussle Supple/FED n etc, even you guys at somepoint, just worldboss content past phases ( this one didnt change ) still is boring
now that i told you something ill go back at 🪓
i saw your caravans goin bro i dont have numbers at those hours
i want to shut that shit down @rough silo
didnt polar lashout about carph weps....tink tink 😂
i have no clue bro im just pissed there isnt an eternal conflict going on
Polar is just the latest in a long line that have crashed out. The first and best was one called Monkey Madness who never even got to test before the entire guild got banned in an epic beatdown by Steven one day once he had enough of their shit. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/256164085366915072/1134873418907537498/rip_guild_diplomacy.mp4?ex=68ec74fb&is=68eb237b&hm=a9169b99490abb07dea3a0ef831c12bad128d38dd71947b8b60949c90fe23b04&
dif timezones are hard huh
i'll figure something out
ill be on the lookout
didn't you know this map died it will never be completed
You are not wrong lol
There was no chance anyone could put up a fight they just wanted to wipe people cause they pulled all nighters the first few days and had levels on everyone. Then they had full kits before people got a decent secondary weapon and was wondering why people were “dodging” like motherfucker it’s not even gonna be fun getting oneshot for an hour what do you want people to do?! Waste their time for your ego?!
yea dude the only guy who had perms to pop war decs was on counter strike, logging in to ashes maybe 2 or 3 hours a week man. There was plenty of content, people were just getting cucked from multiple angles
So are you back?
Maybe the phase is saved if purple gives us content
I’m with you on all these mega zerg alliances. This phase has been stupid about that
The people I work with outside of my guild, I also flag up for on sight 😂
Yea
This phase is just about patience and tact, its not constant PVP stimming like the other phases. And surely the devs are cooking up something for us. They are reading the discord and they know whats happening in game. We just need some patience and we will all get there
As long as they don’t wipe or pull a fresh start in November I’m along for the ride
The big sticking point for me remains to be static rarity and that I still can’t craft magic plate for my cleric lol
Why not both ? They can leave shol up and just make a third new server
less servers the better, the alpha test will not have a large enough player base to support numerous servers
Basically what gbk said. Game is not big enough yet and there are only a handful of comp guilds in the first place. I frankly think splitting NA and EU was a mistake too
comp is such a cringe term in modern gaming, and I only see it used in dead games(tests) no one is playing
bruh
Neither will launch , unless they add content to pull in a wider variety of player types
Ok mister Project 1999
ok mr comp guilds in a dead alpha test KEKW
My guild doesn’t just play Ashes……?
Are you touched?
Do you think player and guild associations start and end in one video game?
PoV: you're interacting with someone who is making comp guild into the new version of Dadcore
Not sure that was the deep cut you were hoping for homie
this guys got brain tumors surely
Just a deep cut someone of your caliber needs to wait a few years to understand, don't worry. Everyone learns at their own pace
you type like you wear a fedora
you type like you get your thoughts from TikTok but filter it through a barely articulate rats nest you call a brain
bruh lol
im hurt
bruh, my comp guild in the ashes of creation alpha test with sub 1k users, bruh
This guy still thinks guilds only exist in one game. I maybe would too if I played the same game for 26 years.
Damn that must be an amazing game ! Hmmm tbh we all been playing the game of life since conception !
for someone obsessed with an alpha test where the lead designer is one of the founding EQ Devs, gac harbors a weird hatred towards his only successful game

Weird hatred? Homie this really ain’t that serious lol
already to the backpedal into trivialization after getting upset for being mocked, 2/10
You are the one who sounds really upset, honestly. Did we reject your app or something? Is that why you’re upset about other guilds? lol
You remind me of a guy who struggled to understand a study on tone of text back in undergrad tbh. Shout out to Joe, actual idiot lol.
Again, sounds upset
"If I claim others are upset when I lack a counter, I can delude myself into thinking I have point"
back to the funny bit though, can you explain how your new mmo player slang is so unpopular? 26 results on this Disc since 2017, out of over 12 million results
Is that Pokemon btw?
Missed a message about the "Ottomons". Need another one
I can smell the lack of showering from this video.
sir that is AI
I just want to reiterate this started because you felt threatened by guilds wanting this game to be something worth taking seriously
This started because you unironically used slop language from, what I'm guessing was New World.
play an Alpha test
claim there are "comp guilds"
Choose one
shit, now it's up to 27 results and I'm 3 of the uses
You still don’t understand the fact that guilds that play Ashes can exist from before Ashes alpha lol
LOL uh huh, shout out Enveus
Enveus was not a competitive guild
Holy shit, you're so close to understanding the point
This guy really thinks he’s gonna pull one over us
when you're so bad at it that you're trying to appeal to an imaginary crowd with your strawmans
That doesn’t mean having multiple servers splitting the potential for good PvP is a good thing, which is all that started this convo lol
And this guy is upset people want good PvP or something? I can’t tell
no what started this convo where you're clearly invested and angry was this, actual New World slop
What about that statement sounds “angry?” lol
Where did I say that specific statement sounded angry?
Again, where did I say that specific statement you referenced was angry and not your general demeanor.
3 hours later and you're still whining about me making fun of you for using "comp guild" btw
“Whining” lol
"Let me waste 3 hours of my life yapping because a guy mocked me for saying 'comp guild'; that will really show them I'm not mad or invested"
This is free entertainment. Why deny it?
Oh god, we're already to the I was only pretending meme cope
Lmao

thats was a long timeout but we back
Feel that
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this is how EBC pvps
ngl cats are carrying the drama, didnt see it coming
I love watching the back and forth of the special Olympics like this 😎
How the turns tabled!
I'll start special olympics contests when and where I want, tyvm
Not the 29x champ for nothin!
say what you want about the skill of guilds but you cant knock the passion they are still out there bangin
lost van while being outnumbered, lost crates, refuses to go purple, dec a 2 man crafter guild, running from toner, go on
Facts! If I was that bored that ashes was worth playing like that, I’d demand recognition too 😂
Brother...started a fight over a van and then whined after we war decced the people who picked them up
who's running?
go to bed dog

This man couldnt wait to pull his blanket on and yap on his phone app
logged off while his guild is at war btw, but still typing here
hey he's a discord pvper not a AoC one
i went to eat, am chilling 🤣
log back in and run the 1s then
Guaruntee the call was to tell your crafters to pick up the crates and not flag..
you guys die vs a guild with 2 crafter on
cant say its a crafter guild if you're actively doing pvp
You watched your crafting guild die while you typed at an emberspring
nhom nhom nhom
Time to log off you got a kill!
That’s a dub
you know the alpha test is deadge when EBT and Cats are feuding
size + yapeprs nbut lose 🤣
you kinda want a wipe tho, the econ is ruined with exploits/dupes
offered you the 1s but i aint seen you accept. wya
You wanna 1v1 a ranger being a tank? 🤣 you are as dumb as your guild is
you wanna yap but you dont wanna pvp i dont get it
Just keep loggin out Bam its okay
need the clip of EBC dropping guild again?
🤣 free van,free crates, free 2 war decs, dont wanna 1v1 Toner and dont wanna go purple because gets rolled over
cats didnt lose any members
why drop guilds
rats dont have members.
i offered toner the 1v1 too, but bro was nervously typing in town and wouldnt come out? got the vod to show
wheres EBCs clips of cats dropping
you want clips of your bodys being dropped on the van? watch your own vod bro
keep getting dogged on your own prime time
was looking on the vod for you to do anything other than auto with your bow
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odd timing that when it was ONLY ebc you guys folded like a napkin
you clipping a crafter keep coping man, get ragged doll on on prime time with more numbers
you came out to pvp? dont cope on the crafter bullshit
you seen cats crafters drop guild?
wait wait, why is Cats calling it cope? That's all Cats did when all the guilds were playing
cats have never dropped guild?
Go back being dusty bitch and be quiet
Weve definitely never bailed on a guild war
if you decced our crafters we wouldnt just let them get farmed
you're getting heated i can hear it in your typing
Prime time + outnumbering + lost van + lost crates + refuses to 1v1 + refuses to purple just to focus 2 ppl
refuses to purple? ah i gotchu
outnumbering counting is hard
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Show us the van and the crates show us
youre so based for this
we're still on the "refuses to purple" allegations? address the clip
Can’t wait for November fresh !
the year willl be 2028;game is still in alpha 2. The only guilds left playing are the roleplaying guilds and they're in Disc posturing like kids playing dress-up trying to pretend to be the mommy and daddy guilds that came before them
ope
I think EBC should start a podcast, they really love talking
nom nom nom
Man gets denied from every good guild then gets bullied by cats.... I think its time to quit while you are ahead man
second time now, guild dec meta is just logging off
ah they doing the supple strat 😆
whos logged off?

ezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
hey Bam, if you need help getting into guilds that send out spam mails,hmu. I'll charge next to nothing since it's ez
Hey bam thats wierd that the kill total didnt change who did that for you?
interesting strat
walking ? it is interesting
Objective based guild wars when
EZ
1 man army vs dusty simpssssssssssssssssssssssssss, lost van, lsot crates, refuses to 1v1, refuses to purple, double dec, loses the decs
2am sleep comming
the refuses to purple and cope is CRAZY
ill look into it, thank you
I miss purple...actually showing up for the fights, huge respect honestly
i thought it was 3 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA No van, No crates, Outnumbering, Dec Craft guild, refuses to 1v1, refuses to purple, dec again, loses a dec, primetime oh my.
every lie you try to throw just shows how pathetic you are stop man its embarresing
your rage bait is actual ass
Refuse to tell the truth 
roll the clips!
whos rage baiting? am stating facts you have numbers but just dogshit
count numbers we have streams wheres pictures of your raid at peak
they dont have clips just yelling into an echo chamber
must have been sleep time with the clipping aswell
Bro am playing on 10fps and i still dumped your dpses just go back into the corner and be quiet, go back to 2.5/2.0 phase where you guys are just quiet
you're actually delusional
Gotta spread the pvp love, I think you'll like this video given the current events https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1zs79lDTaI
Keep the faith; join the best clerics in Ashes of Creation.
idk you talk all this but i dont see clips
Has EBC resorted to talking about dusty in off hours? Thats wild
EBC calling it our prime time people not even awake yet
Complain about timezones and yap about a streamer who isnt even live what are you doing?
Dude Why you typing you Polar PR 2.0 spy garbage
WHAT IN THE RP
dodging cats is wild
wtb Polar back, Cats are absolute dog shit at chat pvp
Wow now bringing up Polar you have some crazy fantasies man
You are reaching into a bag of P2 callbacks at this point
quick better mention polar to have some semblence of relevance
crazy fantasies? You're so shit at doing mayor promo in the new aela discord back at 2.0 you became a joke
quick better try and grasp at anything while you're chat zerging and still being dog shit at it
is 1 group a zerg?
Dude that was like a year ago what is wrong with you
yeah this bot has no chat features
We are a holy guild ✝️
wtb smart Cat members who at least turn off their server tag before chat zerging like dipshits
I remember what I ate yesterday
Please post some screenshots of my cringe as RP like it means anything
uh oh not getting any attention ! better say some dumb shit and get some
Again go back to the 2.0/2.5 state go back to your corners and be quiet.
says the guy who has mentioned me twice in the last minute lol
Damn someone is stuck in the past huh
what did EBC do in those phases?
you asked for attention and now you're getting it. never say i ddnt do something nice for you
World bosses, Node decs, war decs, What did you do in those phases?
it's alright to be an idiot. you don't have to show it off so much though. Mention me some more; that'll really show me
EBC busy watching cats in 2.5
keep checking discord for the pings! "oh i got another ping lets go im still relevant"
"please don't notice discord pings on your second monitor. I'm a mouthbreather who still hasn't realized the rest of my guild isn't chat zerging with me against this one guy. But the discord pings op"
@viral wagon Keep being logged off and enjoy your other games
Wheres the clip of losing the van to a 6man vs 8
oh we dont know you so no reason to "zerg" you when you were never relevant to the issue at hand in the first place. but keep spam checking discord for mentions
Cats ain't sending their best. 30 wpm, hands sweaty, vessels bulging
bros not even on ashes hoping someone talks to him in a different discord
Imagine having Egos when you're just in a streamer guild in an Alpha test 🤣
literally flexing siege wins in an alpha
"just in a streamer guild" shows how ignorant some people are
literally in Cats With Abs and trying to ego KEKW
literally nobody and trying to ego 💀
Not even trying to ego, just laughing at how an entire guild avoids any conflict when they start losing
You're as relevant as Dusty's female pattern baldness hairline. Die mad about it
he got mad goddamn
why are you bringing up dusty? are you that desperate?
You all need to calm down and just farm these to achieve tranquility
in a streamer guild
wonders why people bring up his streamer
Did you just called me a monkey?
oh its a jealousy angle i get it now, wasnt in the pvp, wasnt in the convo
brb joining an Asmongold guild and crashing out when people bring up Asmon
damn still bringing him up
hes been doing it for weeks
No, but do you want some leggo bananas?
bro's fighting for his life to stay mentioned
something something Parasocial relationship
fighting for my life
failed KT mayor mentioning me 2 times per minute on lockdown
this just turned into a sad guy that doesnt even play ashes insulting cats cause he has nothing better to do
dont let them forget who i am! even though they never knew anyways!
failed KT mayor is the most hilarious dumbass shit LOL
Zombie deserves credit for running two nodes without a flying mount.
imagine making friends in an MMO to alleviate not having a flyer
"imagine making friends" XD thats sad
sorry Bam, they were too busy in here crying that their streamer got mentioned
nobody is crying, just wondering why some rando is typing at us and showing their insecurities by commenting on another mans appearance who isnt involved
I wonder if Hasan is going to play Ashes. His viewers would be the type to cry about people talking about him kekw
"neckbeard" "mouthbreather" "hairline" bro is just mad projecting his own insecurities on everyone here
Where did I type neckbeard? Little Freudian slip from you there
30 wpm at it again
but you dont deny your other ones? go ahead and reply for me
"imagine making friends" - Gaettusk
You're already to making shit up and pretending you're not mad, yikes lol. Cats aint sending their best. Making me legit miss Polar
GOOD BOY!
Their relevance is receding more than their stream idol's female pattern baldness hairline
making what up? all i heard is.. you dont play, you're mad you're not relevant, you're insecure cause you keep mentioning other men's features...? what am i missing?
"I'm going to keep mentioning this guy I claimed was seeking attention. I'm totally smart,guys. Trust me"
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attention seeking cry for help
ironic considering the source
projecting again, thats not very good boy of you but keep replying to me
That's not projecting. Try again
i get it, your whole life is this pvp chat so you GOTTA be involved somehow
again, ironic considering the source
Gaettusk farming until he has 10k messages in this chat
i barely chat here big dog, but lets check your history
3pm nap I rest while cats cant still overcome their inferiority.
FIGHTING for attention and relevance
professional YAPPER, this is ALL he has going on. he goes to work and tells becky at the front desk about his chat pvp
"If I avoid talking in the Discord, I can search up comments from years ago and pretend it's a big deal"
he is bigger yapper than dusty goddamn
why are we time gating it?
type of guy who refuses to text back friends because it's too many words lol
no time gate
i can see we're not operating at the same bandwidth but thats okay
says the guy freaking out over 12 texts a day LOL
alright if you get something worth chatting about going im sure you'll reply
is that why you avoid the official disc and yap on the other discs btw?
stopped typing, I hit the nail on the head lol
oh you're still here? was waiting for you to reply
is it good to just sit in here and yap all day?
that reply only works if your typing isn't visible on disc, lil bro
bro doesnt get it...
12 messages a day and years later people like you pissed about it, yeah. It's funny
just saying its sad
you're above 12 messages a day already btw
guy is an actual discordian and thinks people are "pissed"
still yapping
mentioning me 2 times per minute
I'm the overwhelming majority of his Disc messages now
how to know you got bro heated
using memes from 2015 KEKW
oh that got to him
lets find out everything that gets him to type the fastest
Can you two kiss already, I can't handle this sexual tension
I'd kiss him but he seems an anti-social guy on SSRIs
Gaettusk only at 8k cause of the slowmode
alright ill be back if mentioned sorry we had to do it to ya bro
"guys, if we keep trying to make a big deal out of 12 texts per day, it might just work. Cats, keep spamming it"
"imagine making friends" -Gaettusk. Sits in discord trying to find people that will listen to him
Imagine sitting on a comment for an hour like that heated and you don't even quote it right lol
Gaettusk cant beat the alligations of being Sad
I already beat that allegation. No one takes Cats seriously
People take you seriously?
murhrk come farm
Well considering you've been here for an hour arguing with me, I'd hope for your sake...chat zerglings lol
Nov fresh gonna be hype!
Haven't you been here for like 4 hours Gae
"here" as in other monitor while pvping on bronzebeard, yeah
pray for it my friend..
I really don’t care about the economy at this stage and no one else really should lol
Logic
Why did the price of protectors pride double for no reason? x]
because we have the market cornered
Fresh is coming.. but will it be any better than what we got now is the real prayer
Nothing on ptr a month out is scary
there is no fresh coming lol
just pray tm..im too powerful now..
They slipped a dupe into the economy to make fresh more palatable
If they weren't going to wipe they would have fixed static by now
They should
- fix static rarity
- disable vassal system
- unfuck the loot economy and crafting
And then wipe
No shot. There's a new dupe? While I'm on fucking vacation
I don't even need to read the name. I see bullet points, and I know who it is.
dang hes got you there
they just needed to do ptr only instead of trying to force a live service during dev
Live service is fine, just too many people in an alpha who have no experience in an alpha and as a result do not understand the issues that can come with an alpha experience
gonna be more of that if they advertise next month despairge
Combine that with poor moderation and generally poor decision making and its a vicious combo
soon ™
poor decision making rears its ugly head once again
Just keep a mammoth in bank as a "just in case" come back fund
Also
- immediately cease open development
What open development? They don't have real open development
That was my last money maker before I quit, would cook 5-10 mammys at a time.
I cba to get 55 refiners back online
probably the highlight of disc today:
German okay garmin sound effect
nobody would believe that this guy is actually a GM
ngl, he's one of the more sane guild leads in Ashes. Sad but true
What does a GM look like princess

ya if you dont get it i dont care at all, but i was timed out 3 times in a row for 7 days each so if rats are gonna be constantly reporting me to mods guess ill do the same
Why is fishing so profitable suddenly
purple letting a level 20 rogue with no hands get a point
Ashes women hmu I have legendary fish, epic fish, legendary basalt, and legendary tin ingots in multiple storages across the map.
Tm you really think I’m the type of person to report you to mods? Lmao
Yea Mugs, we homeboys
@leshrac I think purple handled the rogue with no hands 😂
must be nice to fight a guild that doesnt log off (and leave guild) on war decs
I miss purple
The issues present here have to do with specifically how the alpha has been ran. If the purposes of phase 3 is to test the trade economy, they should be gold wiping everyone and adjusting values as we play.
Instead they just leave everything stagnant to where any data they collect is distorted.
They’d actually get a lot more meaningful data if they just ran weekend PTR tests where they gave us level 25 characters with 100G each and just let us play with the pack economy, and just repeat it every weekend tweaking different values.
The whole idea of a year long persistent test is pointless right now because there’s nothing of value that will persist beyond the level cap increase coming in Jan/Feb and there’s no point collecting data on people sitting at level 25 for months because that isn’t authentic to how release will be at all.
Compared to another alpha test I’m participating in right now with Soulframe the way Intrepid is doing this is so counterproductive.
wiping w/o fixing stuff is dumb af
nhom nhom nhom another cat van
He gone
wait, Leshrac is gone? today is a good day.
who managed such a feat, let me shake their hands.
Yes. It’s really good
the new warframe 
Thank you Purple.
What happen to Leshrac, he just leave or did he get bonk
Either way wont be missed.
Probably said something stupid and got bonked
get baited
2 vans + 8 crates gone, lost two wars, cant back the yapping
cant count but thats ok
He forgot to mention they developed the game a lot more than ashes before becoming an alpha
You cant count, you cant play
Keep dodging Toner in 1v1
i offered it, he said it was "limited time only"
1v1 Toner bet something on it
i tried, bro wouldnt do it
Right now, we aint sleeping
You kept rushing the crafter guild 🤣
i tried to 1v1 but bro dodged when actually pressed to do it. SS doesnt lie.. "you had your chance"
without being pourple you guys are actually rats
also why are you offering 1s for someone else, and not yourself? do you not want the 1s?
Bro am a ranger 🤣
if you're ass just say so
IF you're ass 🤣 you're dogshit man
by which standard? cause i dogwalked you
Bro you have 1 class more suited to 1v1's more than a bard and yet you dodging Toner
im not dodging anyone.. ill dogwalk both of you lol... where is the dodge at, bro is just on repeat and cant fucking read
Keep using the flying mount you're more useful just wtaching your guild die than being it the ground
this NPC only has two dialogue options
1v1 Toner then, put some gold on the way for the commitment
If you know you know
sure, you gonna 1v1 someone i choose, not a tank?
1v1 toner with a bet on the line if you beat toner i give you my bow
i dont care about your shit, i wannna see you 1v1 someone i choose
Sure 1v1 toner first with the gold bet as commiment than ill do whatever you want
no they'll happen at the same time buddy
Can we do sidebets?
So you can lie and dodge?
if you find a middleman to hold the bets i dont see an issue
huh... what kinda logic is that. both 1v1s happen simultaneously... hows that dodging
we do both duels at the same time, what we betting on then?
@viral gulch cmom
if you insist so much me to 1v1 one your guildies while you get shit on by toner
how do you have so little confidence in yourself and so much in another man
I said les go
lets go then
What the commiment bet then
whatchu got
???????????????? Am asking you what the value commitment bet
how bout you delete your character 😉
If toner loses i delete my character? If he wins what we get?
Whole lotta yapping, either fight or move on
huh? im just enjoying watching you gargle another man so much. what did you want?
massive deflection
100g is nothing for ya guys so 100g bet if toner loses ill delete my character and record n post here
hypocrite
Cmom dont swap to crossy now, am the main lw of the guild this character here is more valuable than ur whole trashbag guild
im just waiting to see how many more times you'll mention toner 😉 maybe he'll pick you
People have lives dude. Stop deflecting
Mate we will war dec you at 4am and see how many of you clowns fight 
Or dudett, who knows these days 🤔
Cmom dont deflect now
but we dec'd you at 2am and..
who is mums?
who is crossy
hes looking for his mom, hes scared rn
also its a uppercase C so
it doesnt matter? lol...
Your name is zombie because you're braindead man
You talk a lot of game for a fella who does not want to fight
Must be a certain MUGS brother
we tried to fight and 2 sundays in a row you're nowhere to be found 🙁
🙁
You're a chicken man, agreed to your shit and you are quacking, zombie because is already braindead.
incoming 0-1 dodge parade
massive L 
So who’s dodging?
we'll numbers match yall anytime it works for both. cant wait to see the dodge
Deflect MORE pls, you cant back your own yapping
You just had someone agree to a fight and character deletion... yet youre still crying dodge. Are you polar by chance?
You have a flying mount due popularity of your trash ass streamer guild you guys are trashbags.
oh no he backpedaled "im the main LW"
Is that irony i smell?
500G Buy in Numbers Match @viral gulch ?
@topaz void heyy
Sure lets set it up, weekend or weekday?
I accept character deletion vs 100g and you're dodging, RATS WITH SCABS
only gonna be able to be a weekend, for timezones
whats your best turnout time? for conversions sake
let me find it, i sent to Dusty trying to organise one last week
Master armor smith when
@viral gulch
<t:1761451200:F> This is the Earliest on our Sunday we would be able to i believe, so like 1-2 hour slot. Sometime after that
500g sounds good, i volunteer to be a middleman, ill hold 500g and hand it to the winner after, yall welcome
thats midnight for us so should be doable
Get your ass out of here
?
Cool, Ill get back to you about this weekend. I believe there is a Joeva Node War planned. Otherwise maybe next. Will let you know my tomorrow
joeva war is sat 10/18
Toner what did you do to Bum that he holds your pockets so dearly?
o i put the 26th
Who are you?
that would be the time this week <t:1760846400:F>
little back seat yapper
Yall loyal guildies and shit?
Im not sure what time wars proc, other then its usually super early for us
Was that your van we took earlier? thats why you yapping in here?
@rough silo
Sup my guy, are you responsible for leshrac evacuation?
No lmao I woke up to it and thought it was ironic with his last post 😂
goddam i need to shake hands with the person
?? Who said anything about it being a game, Bum?
Yo Eu > Us change my mind
Aren't u Turkish, ur not even part of the EU
What do you mean? We are in the Europe and Asia continents. You stupid Us dog
whoosh
this made me cackle irl holy
1 mile = 1.609 kilometers. or 1 mile = 1 mile.
which one makes more sense metric ppl. this is why we use miles in USA 🇺🇸
As a canadian, when does water freeze and boil in your weird measurment system again?
Cause celsius is 0 and 100 🙂
congrats on 43 years of independence, Canada
My water boils on the stove, and freezes in my freezer, when the last time you measured that. I do not dictate my life by water. Imperial is made for humans by humans 🦅 🇺🇸 🎆
You know how you know if your sick? You have a temp over 100. What's that in C?
Imperial is for feet enjoyers 
Metric >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Imperial
All I’m gonna say is the only country to put a man on the moon measures in Fahrenheit. So there’s gotta be something to that.
Do you go down to the pub and get a liter, or a pint?
LF Albion gamers
But their scientist do everything on metric
A yard is a fucking British measurement. It's not even American😂
You start making sense in here and things are gonne get messy

Shits been banging lately boys big respect to the guilds still out there scraping
you are a stockholm syndrome victim man....
He’s right
https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
muh muh muh harbingers
Which country and man was that again?
🪤
And the calculation that the lunar shuttle computer performed to deliver the man to the moon used kelvins 😂
If you keep poking holes my statement people are gonna think I’m wrong though.
Wondering why we are using kilobytes and megabytes and not yardbites and milebytes 🤔 (or other random names for random multiples of bytes)
Fake it till you make it I respect that
Dont yuck my yum
Diagnal upwards seems like a lock-in tbh
can you make the armorsmith bench plz supple
they have NA
I'm still trying to figure out if Robbie is a real person or this is another Greg situation
There are a thousand Robbie's in here so who knows 
18 robbies
Are any of them mayors as far as you know? Do we just chain ping them until commisions appear? My alt needs tickets Robbie pls 
Can always ping Kreelix for that, maybe? Or srix?
A schooner actually
aa merchant schooner
LF next crash out
HIGH OCTANE PVP BOYS HOLY
If Robbie is in your party can you tell him to come home? He forgot to feed the cats before he left.
jokes
why you surrendering in your prime time? HELLO?
we had our fun at tumok
Looked like a fun fight!
there was no content denied it was fun fights all around
hows EU? heard is king of boredom there
damn having 2 ebc members hide between 70 supple/overmeta/yiggs brasil then pretending like you did something is some great leech behaviour 
expect nothing less from the guild that logs off when they have equal numbers 
Im having fun on EU.
How is US, i heard that RMT caused hyperinflation
You guys cant kill tumok in 40mins, full raid vs 2 party + change, you again dec during offtimer, lost the boss, got ragged doll, surrendered the war, You cant back your guys own yapping man just be quiet.
ofc we cant kill it when we have 80 ppl jumping in when tumok is enraged r u okay in the head? XD
you dec EBC, supple, have a full raid + allies from hard and some other dumb guild, yelling in global to get more numbers, 40+min to kill the boss and fails, surrendered during your prime time and You ask me if am ok in the head? your the one here tagging me.
celebrate supple's and overmeta's win all you can cuz thats the only your guild will see 
3-0 in wars, 2 vans, crates
You have more numbers but always dodge us
You kill our vans > we dec you and take back the crates > you log off > "wE wOn tHe WaR
"
arent u suppose to be swiping in that garbage game?
albion ctrlc + ctrlv more mobile version with more 
it seems that europeans are currently playing other games 
cant blame them tbh, we been pissing in the sand in NA and making anything up to keep driving content
europeans rather cry for ping than having a actually "moderate" server pop
is a recurring thing with these games, ppl want better ping to hit resources faster.
Oh they did that to Cats too? Crazy.
They didnt like it when we did it to them back lmao.
Sorry, when did you ever kill EBC vans, we dec you and you log off?
Then they should have the megaserver in EU
Oh are you EBC? I thought you were supple now because you were in Aura.
I was never in Aura....
Am I being gaslighted or was I delusional?
Faithful member to the guild I rep as long as in there....
they might as well be in supple now since most of their players left guild when we decced them 
Keep coping my guy, rats with scabs.
Idk bro is always succing on Srix's gif so I just assumed he was Aura
ok Evacuate Before Conflict stop throwing petty insults
You guys get so triggerd with srixun that i use him as a weapon and it works
Sure xD
Go back to albion man or whatever you guys are doing couldnt care less tbh
I'm not much of an Albion player. I'm in the Apogea waiting room
Can't wait for fresh start :]
I miss polar 
They were a well oiled machine with good teamwork, whatever the fuck supple is doing just aint it
witch hunt is putting it very nicely 
spot the EBC licking the boots to win a prize!
IM BAAAACK
These gooses thought i was in aura and rats with scabs dec guilds to cry later, can you believe that?
bro when they released this they had no idea how good it was for meming , they really outdid themselves with that one xD
Again, arent you in the wrong game? also stop with the fake PR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eDw1mDUP4
Amnesty [OCE - PvX - Competitive]
https://www.amnestyguild.net/
https://discord.gg/amnesty
Emily Blunt Confederacy
OCE/ASIA/NA/EU
https://discord.gg/fm6zQeeXBr
https://youtube.com/user/Landgig
40+mins of Polar getting wiped nonstop
shooo shooo to that mobile garbage ur tag plays
I miss nova ordem
Implying that yourselfs dont have? I agree.
theyre fkn weird bro we got even numbers vs them right after they decced us and when the score started counting they logged off cuz they started getting wiped and theyre like yeh we have to go sleep its getting late were typing this from our beds 
Should join amnesty man get a clean slate, will be good for ya
Dont go for rats with scabs, godchi is in there with some other friends of yours
we have a lot of players who are trying to learn the game the yap is just for fun
you know a game is dead if cats makes a top 100 list anything on a game
Polar always wins tourney champs dont forget about that
oh no the parasocial guy whos in love with a certain streamer showed up 
dude is so anti-polar that someone not in polar but used to be, overshadows all of cats with abs to them
guy not realizing his own-goal lol
idk what ur sayin why u typing here anyway
then maybe go back to middle school where that sentence was made at a 6th grade reading level
woah sick burn brooooooo dammmmmmm
i bet it was the word overshadow. you should look it up if big words confuse you
damn mannn stop burning meeeee
True. Cats be on the come up. And I agree Amnesty was the 2nd best guild on server before we left imo.
I miss the actual Polar shit talkers. These new ones suck really bad
cats deff has forward momentum. dusty is a good personality and zombie does a lot. they are really growing. cant wait to fight them and have fun on the fresh wipe
Bro be saying shit to the OGs. Wym
@kaiser @tanko @mav
Those guys are the goats. You right.
you're that weird KLC guy that coat tails, so yeah lol
LMAO thats good ngl
I liked this game for the movement 😔
WERE FRIENDS-ISH NOW YOU DONT SAY THAT
I agree its better for the game overall but I also feel like an element of skill expression was lost
it shouldve just been fixed in the water to stop bhopping in water faster than mounts. but stayed the same on land. people still fly around with move abilities
Is Sunhaven almost 3?
it's cus these soyboys won't even fight for tumok, they just hold hands with the worst australian guilds on the server
The 50 v 50 v 50 v 50 for 3 hours was insane last night boys good fights cats/hard/meta/sirs/ebc
Yes, my guild is ranked finally! Top 100
cant relate XD
Come join the fights tmugsy yesterday was some bangers. Yall missing good content just gather the troops
Dusty vod is a movie fr
Didn't we beat you guys in 4 simultaneous wars 40 vs 40+40+40+40 and then the first team out, decd again and we won that too.
Do you really want us fighting just 50 of you?
ah there you go putting up ego instead of just trying to have fun with people
Wanted this list of things to be done/implemented to Santa Steven, who knows if we might get it after Christmas.
- high level POI's added to each region.
- POI's of lvl 25+ being the ones in the Lawless rotation
- During the lawless rotation, gear of common/unc rarity related to the POI might drop.
- Castle's for Guild Wars, 1 week rotation for Castle Wars
It was fun and I look forward to the fresh start where we can go up against people at world events like harbingers.
and isn't that the whole point of this channel, flexing in-game achievements and accolades, or trash talking to rile people up to come at you in game.
masochism
theres a right way and a wrong way and disrespectful is the wrong way 🤷♂️ can still chirp but yalls timing for it is always wrong fr fr
Wait did they confirm a fresh start
tank then summoner too coming up
Not officially. I doubt they'll wipe til some very key features are implemented or else it's the same phase repeated with the same problems. Would be very bad optics if so.
Im just reading the writing on the wall. There's no way to salvage this server with all these changes. And most of these upcoming changes were slated to be for the fresh start too.
I could see a xmas/January wipe if some key features are fixed.
Sorry if you feel like I disrespected someone else in the arena of words. Maybe you shouldn't look in here so often
brother im just giving you a little insight to why people dont wanna play with you 🤷♂️ idgaf about any of you in polar personally...cept coot...coots the best of you all for sure
The server doesn’t need salvaging. It’s not a sinking ship, it’s a construction site.
Sometimes when you're remodeling you tear down some things too. And there have been several threads by other people who also feel like a fresh start is needed with this start having issues like being flooded with static rarity spawns.
They perused the idea of a Nov 18th fresh start awhile ago, but that date is unachievable. If there is a wipe/fresh start (functionally the same thing) then it won't be until Jan/Feb imo. They have a lot of systems to fix, and there's no reason doing a wipe/fresh start before they work on those.
Nope
100% agree don't know when exactly is going to be, but I'm certain it is coming soon, and when the devs are ready for it
Just to be clear, that’s your statement, not mine. Don’t attribute it to me. Your framing of the situation isn't aligned with the stated goals of an* alpha.
Waiting to wipe until everything’s fixed treats wipes like a launch event, not a dev tool. Wipes are what let you test the fixes, not something you save for perfection.
Unless you more clearly outline what "a lot of systems" means, it just sounds like you want a completed game --> wipe --> launch. Lmao
hes gotta have a character for that 
I don't want a completed game, but several facets of the game need work. I'd like to see some meaningful progress be made towards world pvp, lawless zones, gathering nodes, processing times/fees, material costs, drop rates, poi's, etc before pushing a wipe/fresh start. Rik has it better laid out above, but there's many things that need a good deal of work before testing can continue to generate meaningful data.
don't forget class updates, secondary classes, and the other stuff thats in motion too 👀
frankly, I think they need all of that in, and potentially even the beginning of the new questing and story arcs going before they consider any wipe or fresh start, or it'll just be in basically the same spot in 2 months.
exploits and shit will always happen when you're at this stage of a game. Things change and mistakes get made. Thats just how it goes. Gotta get the most out of the data, and any data they get from a wipe at this stage is worthless anyway since it'll all get changed when they adjust stuff.
Right. The list is long. They're definitely getting meaningful data now on crafting but besides crafting and maybe crates and player count numbers I don't see the current version of the game generating any other meaningful data. Most things are too skewed out of place.
They definitely CAN still get good data on static rarity changes, economy changes, etc when they do the adjustments by just looking at how many resources are going in at what rarities, etc
Yea, I bundled that all in on the broad overview of crafting. We'll see how the harbinger patch influences things. We're missing a few key components from that to make even the current system balanced inside of itself.
Let alone freeholds, apartments, and all the other stuff that is going to drastically impact how the economy works too 
Wdym every emergency patch to fix something game breaking is meaningful data
All im saying is there are fun ass fights going on still regularly you can choose to continue missing them or come scrap with the rest of us doesnt really matter to me but i love this shit
If your guild or your homies quit and you are looking for pvp content hmu im spinning wars constantly in an alt guild
Seems to me EU is dead af I could get behind merging them into shol
When u spinning some sieges
pray for fresh or you will not be testing lawless fishing
No plans we are hitting node wars next
2 weeks ago before 29 weaps 
What was your magic defence, out of curiosity?
40ish with grit/iron aura/fort
What set were you using? That's pretty high for both magical and physical defence
Im a tank
Yeah what set steve..tell him the set steve
+15 lego 8pc river stalker
Thanks, that makes more sense.
Which set u use at NA on tanks? Acadira or forge or something else?
Lego river stalker is bis NOBODY CAN TELL ME OTHERWISE
Ok

Fresh coming you gonna cry 🙁
IF theres no fresh or wipe what u doing? please tell us
he'll be cryin cause he'll get caught again
You are a fucking piece of shit that damages tue name of POLAR
Prob still come back if the patch is good
But every sign is fresh so not really concerned
Thank you for your reply.
Why do fresh when yall would go back and destroy econ again
How’d we do that
AOC community really made me understand how affective misinformation is
Ppl just hear shit with out seeing any evidence or very shady evidence and think it’s real it’s wild
yet you're spreading it about a fresh start
I mean the bastard surely exploited heavly and damaged the econ but US ppl generally shits their own bed by RMT'ing and using overlays and stuff
The idiot who got banned talking about evidence xDDDD good joke
I’m not banned ? Lmao are you ok
Tmugsy played Hello Kitty Online with Steven, and that's why he's not banned. Yes, Steven was a clicker there too
You get the fuck outta here take the exploiter fucker with you aswell
lmao calm down eu
ok, where are you and me going? Exploiting people's naivete into them thinking you're Turkish and not NA, 2/10 😂
Im Turkish you idiot 😂😂😂😂 and you started it
I'm Turkish; you're not, Abi
I am Turkish Abi, you can be Turkish aswell i aint saying anything
you're less Turkish than Hasan Piker, abi
Lmao. Go to sleep kid.
Put some respect on my name. I am the master. You are the mugu
Hahajha master of Dicks appearently
That's what your mama says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktz7vc70hZ8
Dc Autocraft was a miserable, painful experience that I will not soon forget.
My Lamborghini went in for a door repair and Edgar Garcia Wrote it up for more than
$50k+ To put a new door and repaint the car because of a seamless paint job.
I was promised by Steve Vlaszof a two months turn around to have my car repainted and
It Took one year to p...
Now you started yo mama jokes??? Classic 10 yo. Stfu
You started the mama jokes the day you were born, much love and respect Prayge
Lmao stfu
like a basic white girl pissing her pants laughing while getting mocked
Oh god this kid crying all the time
You fucking stalker. I was replying your stupid messages but why would i even bother?
worse liar than Hasan smh
Never thought id see the day where people argue over whos more turkish 
I am the most Turkish in this chat
I know right xD
And the one has the lowest iq aswell
That kinda proves my point xD i have nothing against Armenians.
Told you that you're less Turkish than me
Lmao
tmugsy talking about misinformation while linking hacks for ashes in other discords is wild. (hurry tmugsy, go delete it, we have it saved already)
report it if you haven't already. muppet needs to go. permanently
srix scared of competition coming back to the server
More like.. wants fair and legit competition not illegitimate
Something something putting level 1s in the siege while doxxing *something something *
Fair and legit competition my ass
Something something GM wiped and cried something something carphin event something something
Fair and legit players my ass
ill be honest I have no idea how you even compare selling crates and doing an event that EVENT SUPPLE/AURA PARTICIPATED IN to >>> doxxing but you do you bro
My guy you have to be honest with yourself… both guilds dox 🤦♂️
I haven't seen anything about that ill be honest but I'm willing to apply my standard to both sides.
They both 100% have done it in the past so both sides are guilty
As far as the level 1s it’s no different to anyone that drops guild to avoid war decs or log caravans in p2 which polar is literally known for.
I started playing from 2.5 so I don't know much about earlier
Except for the part where they name the character's into people's irl names to dox them, or is that part fake too? 
All you need to know about Polar, is that it sucked up remnants from two guilds who were both deleted for massive exploit abuse in prior phases 🙂
The fact of the matter is if you’ve logged a van or dropped guild to avoid combat you’re a bitch regardless
Because you have no clue as to what polar has done pre 2.5. Its much worse than what you know. And its not just in ashes
Like i said they’re both guilty of doxxing
Now that I agree with.
But the level 1 “content denial” is the same as the other stuff like login and dropping guild
Agreed
I'm not worried about putting level 1s. From what I understood they were naming the level 1 characters people's irl names to dox them. The doxxing is the problem not the content denial.
There is no good guy in the battle of giants it’s just which one has fucked you more than the other
Honestly the server was much better when POLAR was the big bad wolf lol, shit sucks now.
I agree but both sides have done it so don’t defend the guilty parties. You reap what you sow
trust me when I say its not because polar is gone 
No one is defending, like I said I'm happy to apply my standard to both sides if they've done it.
Polar not playing isnt the issue. The issue is lack of new content and less PvP options.
The gathering sim is just not it lol.. POIs are dead and all you can do when you login is gather so yeah ofc it killed PvP
Vans were fun and when the content was new it was fun but the people who’ve been around for more than p2.5 are just bored and playing other stuff
So polar being gone is irrelevant… they were irrelevant to a large majority of the player base. All people saw from them was griefing lower level players and tons of chirping
I mean if they re-add drops into the game there will be more friction in POIs and that will cause PvP but right now it's just nothing but a gathering sim imo. We had like 10 guild decs in the past few weeks and I think 8 of them people just logged off or left guild..it's in such a boring state rn
People should get banned for a week intentionally dodging war decs 🤷♂️
Its honestly better without them. Chats more civil. Now if only intrepid gave us an insight in to static rarity progress and things would be bliss
You also shouldn’t be able to rejoin a guild until a 1 week cooldown
Maybe add carph, forge, SB lawless? 
Carph honestly should’ve been #1 lawless spot
Is that the same for settlements? I've never checked otherwise it'd be good for that too
I think everything is a day cd max
Aren't carph and steelbloom linked to story arcs though in the future? Or are those story arcs instances?
Eh so not long enough then
Technically all POIs are intended to be? Access would be locked for SB CARPH OAKEN
Hmm
Maybe a couple others but who knows 🤷♂️ they’re changing the plan as time goes on
Seems that way
Moral of the story is people need go stop being bitches and play the game
Well… not now since it’s boring but yeah
I asked steven in discord why SB and Carphin arent lawless zones, he answered by saying that is something related to november patch, but the on stream he said harbringers wouldnt spawn in the riverlands so at this point who knows 
Have you seen the Voidgates that came up on codex?
Maybe something to do with those locations.
"We cant do anything about things that happen in other discord"
@grizzled magnet Scared? nah just not interested in playing with cheaters
Funny of you to assume that you will be playing in the nov patch, you will be gathering in the nov patch**
peeeaaak
i think a lot of people wont bother gathering if there arent substantial changes
I just don't see the point of it being this insanely tedious to craft. Who the fuck is going to spend months crafting level 29 gear on release when they would outlevel it so fast, it makes 0 sense.
I think (speculating) that based on the previous test they have seen high gear inflation (people were transitioning too fast to bis);
And instead of providing some gear recycling (destruction) system, decided just pump up sinks on crafting
Well since you are going to out level it anyways just treat it like apprentice gear at that time and instead of spending months gathering epic+ mats just spend a couple days gathering uncommon and make yourself a green bow/axe whatever that will get you through to 30.
Well the whole point is they're spending so many resources to make and adjust these recipes ( level 26 and 29 ). If we're going to skip them then what's the point of having them?
After a few months when you have accumulated and hoarded it all you will be able to make sweet gear for your alt 
Level 29 gear will just be like level 9 and level 19, no one craft these recipes because they're simply not worth it and it's outleveled.
False, level 39 gear will be quadruple level 29 materials so maybe I'll be able to craft a single common piece...
Ya maybe it depends on the mats needed. If the 29 bow uses ass loads of oak and the 39 bow uses ass loads of western larch then you can have it all......except bank space of course. Nobody can have bank space 
It is a possibility that they intended for the level 29 gear to be the time and effort needed for a level 49 or 59 peice of gear and we're testing how their scaling feels.
Well 49 will be the highest unless there's some super boss drop they call lvl 50 or whatever. They have stated that making GM gear would be a monumental undertaking so I feel like there is pain in our future when it comes to crafting difficulty which might mean this 29 gear remains relevant longer than people might think.
As in only the top 10% of people will be able to make or afford 49 gear and the rest of the folks are in 39-43 gear even at max level and say a year after release.
If that is the case that making high level gear is such a pain and given how much of a power bump each tier is.
Just having a bunch of sweat lords running around with gear multiple tiers higher with no restrictions on their power is a recipee for greifers paradise. Seems like an even bigger L than the current system.
Most of the people "griefing via pvp" could kill their targets in all white lvl 20 gear. Whether they kill you in 7 hits or 2 doesn't make a big deal and their corruption sets they will be griefing you with will be level 29-36 white-green gear it won't be epic 49 gear unless they are omega rmters
Sorry I wasn't as clear in my point as I wanted to be. Griefing is a narrow side of this. Just plain old pvp competition is what worries me.
Fighting someone who has that much more gear than you is about as unfun as possible.
If all the pvp in this game comes down to is zerging and hours spent to make much better gear and it makes skill or tactics account for far less than gear and numbers. Then I dont see why anyone wound find that pvp fun.
Ya there will always be tiers...... Don't punch above your weight class 
It's true, at least in wow or ff14 nobody can get in your way when you want to take a shot at mythic raiding or ultimate raiding. If your party is good enough or you grind it long enough that you learn each fight then you get the gear eventually. Here when you have to compete over firebrand or whatever specific carphin boss you want even if you can kill the boss if uncontested you generally won't be uncontested 
I haven't done much open world stuff or at least not in groups. I've had to compete on wilderness bosses in RuneScape but 1v1 in tick based old combat is nowhere near what this is. 
but thats the fun of the game imo, competing for those bosses. the unknown pvp aspect of openworld pve content is a great formula for pvx. i wish they did more of this and people were willing to flag up for "normal" stuff like they do for world bosses.
and even if someone is out gearing you, you bring more numbers. losing a tumoc to a giant pvp battle was the most fun I had this phase. we might have won the guild wars but the rest of the server got the the boss loot. it was really fun
Nah disagree on this, in a sandbox you can definitely build the game in a way that equals footing for game stats can be achieved.
Oh ya I wasn't saying this way is bad I'm just saying it's more challenging
oh idk maybe if common gear was common (steven pls) and dropped off mobs regularly, people could at least have max level starter gear and be competitive with everyone. i dont want to be 50 in full 50 gear fight 3 50s in 30 gear and wiping them. that is going to be unfun. i want fair fight, or even unfair ones like 3v1 where my skill is shown to be the winning factor not my hours in the game hitting trees
Equal footing undermines the whole design though. They want to have those crazy items that are BIS and only 10 people per server have and those items will be very powerful. If you put that item in my hands I'm still going to die on repeat
skill still matters but gear advantages are intended and fine.
Sounds like you agree with me.
I disagree on the gear drop front, but common and uncommon gear should be extremely prevalent. I think the way most people level proffesions in this game is one of the bigger problems.
open world pvp means that equal footing can never happen. those 2 ideas are mutually exclusive.
I just want low teir common gear to be prevalent and help people throughout leveling, and start out their max level journey.
trying to limit the top 1% of players fucks over the lower 50% of players much much harder
that doesnt mean there arent going to be DR curves taht 1% players will push and those are soft limits. but there are somethings that are intended just for 1% players that hurt casuals much much harder
I have to disagree on this, you can set people in a sand box to have mostly equal footing in a given fight.
Go look at eve, you can bling fit a frigate for massive amounts of currency and it is only 5-15% better than another other frigate, but any frigate has to be played very well to kill a ship one class above it. Simarlily any frigate has a much better chance of escaping encounters with much bigger ships.
alright, which polar mayor was exploiting firebrand with their flying mount and forced intrepid to disable it again?
the reason it can never be even footing in the open world is this:
you can always outnumber your opponent. doesnt matter your skill or gear (as long as you have some on at least) or class comp. you can always swarm an opponent.
If it was a polar mayor they wouldn’t have told so it got disabled 🤦♂️
“I can do it must be a mechanic that’s intended”
so youre saying ANOTHER mayor exploited it and got caught? interesting.
Or hear me out… reported it yk
here it comes.
He just wants to be a victim
im just getting ahead of the curve here, since polar gets accused of literally every exploit ever.
I was just going to say, based on the look here I'm pretty sure this was reported by whoever found the bug 
Yeah he doesn’t quite understand the process clearly 😂😂
Dang it feels good to be the good guys 🙂
Yes, but if you just bring more people, that is a skill in coordinating and organization, not a stat on a peice of gear. Very different things.
He’s so desperate for attention and victim activity he blurted it out when no one was thinking of his dead guild
youre the one that started talking about polar
What was the bug?
?!?!? I started it?!?
why are you tagging me in this?
Jesus Christ it’s right there lmfao click
Just another ping for you cutie 😉
why you gotta be startin shit off a joke, bad timing.
😘 it’s okay if you can’t read boo
I’ll get the picture books ready for you next time there’s a discussion 📚
man took a self-depricating joke and ran with it like it came straight from moses off the mountain
Be careful talking about polar. Tm might come back in here and have another mental breakdown and start pinging mods again
Oh no are you hurt? Need your 🍼?
Firebrand got stuck on a tree and bugged out.
When he got stuck (All recorded mind you) we chopped the tree tyring to free him. I was in chats with GM Jacob, and we finished him off and had everyone do /bug reports and send the video to intrepid.
Basically the same bug since p1
Glad it was reported and quickly taken out before there was any major advantage gained from it 🫡
so the same bug that caused him to get stuck in the steelbloom walls in p1 and people yelled exploit about. got it
Yeah, just depends if intentional or not basically. intention has alot to do with bug vs exploit
not a single person intends for him to get stuck in steelbloom walls and unlootable bro.
Didnt say anything about anyone. Just said thats the difference is all bud.
oh, im aware. thats why my initial response was a bug and not exploit

T-t-t-today sunny
but back to what we were talking about civilly
coord people is deff a skill and takes a lot of work before the moment is needed just like gear in a lot of ways.
the only way to give this initial even footing imo is for the low teir of each grade at common rarity be common. people need to start off on the same foot.
like i said i dont wana beat 3v1 just because of the gear diff of lvl 50 vs lvl 30 gear. i would rather me work my ass off for high teir lvl 50 gear and other people also have lvl 50 gear and have those fights. my much larger time commitment is still valued in crafting the higher gear, and a casual gamers' presence is valued with at least the ability to compete without being steamrolled in just a gear diff that makes them hit 75% weaker.
no u
We just arent mass banned 8)
Yet*
I know supple full of p2w TnL people 🤷♂️
who TF has a real conversation in THIS channel? take your real discussions to #alpha-two-general
hey we were here first
I too camo and then do solo flanks and call my self competitive brother forgot this wasnt a KR mmo 
Who am i
Yeah and I agree with most of what you have said, I just dont think dropping gear is as healthy for the game and economy as making those lower tiers much easier to craft and fixing the exp within the crafting system so people actually have to craft level 10 and 20 gear to level up there crafting.
okay unc
Youre not my real mom. You cant tell me how to eat my uncrustables!
respect your elders
That’s why I haven’t touched PvP 🤷♂️ that sounds like a one sided fest for the luckier group or the wealthier group and I’m too casual for that
I’ll fight in POIs but I’m not scheduling fights or anything
Have you seen 90% of the playerbase
you havent touched it because your bad. anyone whos in the top 50% of players in ashes has pvp'd
NO HE CANT
I edited you can cry later
I am the authoritative source on uncrustables. Kneel peasant
Screen saver APM yet still say without whatever victim complex bugs the ppl who killed them used which dont exist they would be able to 1000% win.
Homie thought he had a gotcha moment but I fight people 🤷♂️ he’s barking up the wrong tree
its ok you dont play half the game
People don’t know ho to just hold an L
dude, youre too casual for this channel
lol I’m busy playing other games that are actually fun and have real PvP 😂
How is league of legends nowadays?
Ass but balanced 😂
so you discord pvp in a game you dont even play atm lol. i bet youre real fun to hang with on the weekends
I’m busy at work whats a weekend
So you left to play the better moba? Dota 2
dude acts like he is too busy lol 500+ messages this month and its only the 16th
how mayn do i have
It's even more funny when you contrast this all with him bitching that crafters should pick up a sword and fight in the main chat earlier.
o.o are you trying to hate on me being active in the community?
oh thats not bad
nope just callin out your bs lame excuse of "iM tOo BusY"
and i work from home and im a bad ragebaiter 
Brother I was on break just now and you’re yapping
I drive 3 hours a day and work from 7-4 🥹 I just wanna get home and cook maybe not afk farm for the rest of the day
im less than 25% your posts, whos the yapper. difference between you and me is i back up my claims you just spout BS
You’re just toxic I’m actively chatting to people and helping
Or giving my takes on their feedbacks
this all started with you taking a joke from polar digging at polar wayyyy to seriously. maybe you should look in the mirror and ask whos toxic
o.o brother I never had a problem with yall
I probably have 50 billion messages sent but half of them are just ottermotes

nope around 1/2 of kace who is busy and a doesnt even play this game atm, using the same search criteria
Clearly pheonixfire and the ottermotes is what is toxic
Phoenix use to type a lot more often too
Ya sorry I didn't realize it was only this month I thought we were going overall yapping. I've kind of given up on this server...... Was feeling good today so decided to indulge in some self torture 
you and bob had a nice convo earlier i was hoping in on
There are help groups out there for ya phoenix reach out if you need help
Appreciate it but I don't need help I just need to be in more sane spaces more often so I haven't been as yappy here
I miss you and Naru 🥹
Lakkez is too busy being an ass and crying that im being an ass back in the #na-arena-of-words
who else is excited for arc raiders TOMORROW?!
this guy thinks because he is taking the piss that its tears coming from me 😂
Lakkez has the best tears - they dont exist
Ims till getting my ass handed to me in bf6. so. 😛
My guy is checking how many messages I have and taking ss to cry in his guild discord 😂 he’s freelo
i feel that for sure lol
Well, we're fighting now.

