#alpha-two-lotharia-eu
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They can either flag to contest or give it up
See I don’t mind that, I just have concerns it’ll lead to more griefing than it solves
That should be how it works as a minimum I feel
It will
Yes please, I need more people jumping me to take that common Ash tree from me
And It results on a dogshit gameplay of Who spam the gather button First instead of fighting
Dmg to interrupt gathering Is not the solution
if u allow perma purple ur just gonna hve groups of 5 people jumping anyone in an area for no reason and griefing people constantly
I won’t be able to damage lvl 6 gatherer tho cause i might one shot them
Its a step in the right direction tho
No, people fight for resources
Leave my fishing alt alone
well, level 6 gatherer won't be gathering a resource you need unless you are also level 6, meaning you won't oneshot then
sure buddy, of course, youre so right, have u ever seen how people act in open pvp zones in other games? Theyre animals. If there is a way to grief someone, they will do it for shits and giggles
Like Jayco says there is nuance to this
Im gonna make shit ton of White lvl 20 gear and corrupt on all the fishermen
There Is no griefing in open pvp zones

Unironically do this would be hilarious
At this point I’m kinda just giving up on any games really wanting a hardcore mmo PvP experience people are just to soft man rust is the only game that can scratch the itch even though i really want a mmo to
Maybe in their mind Killing people in a pvp zone is griefing tho
That’s pretty funny actually

"u can just kill a griefer" LMAO, a group of tryhards on discord killing every newbie they see and u think anyone has a fighting chance?
Guys, lawless isn’t as terrifying as you think it is
Rise up peasant
It’s actually good fun
Killing Is not griefing
We had a bunch of 21 rogues fuck with our lvl 14 party and we successfully killed them until they called for back up
its basically spawn camping
I think this game might Just not be for u
Did they come back after I left lol?
Why take the risk of going in a pvp zone then, keep to your safe zone
Yup, and they brought friends
How can u spawn Camp? Everybody has a home teleport when they die
Except a gatherer doesn't have the slightest chance of killing the griefer..
1 - griefers are often max level, while gatherers.. not that often
2 - gear difference is massive. My legendary lumberjack axe doesn't help against your legendary sword
3 - griefers are herd animals, while gatherers prefer being alone
So ur complaining that people with Better skills and Gear kill u?
id say the same thing for u cuz ur advocating for a perma purple way of playing the game and that is just not a viable state
Rude tbh
and it will never be
Im advocating for fighting over resources
As this game Always advertised
The pvers won we lost we gotta rap it up
youre hiding the bloodlust of killing lowbies behind the excuse of fighting for resources
Remember when Steven said that scarcity Is the best way to promote player friction?
Im not as hardcore on the pvp side and I agree with Ado, that functionality is kinda fundamental to the core game design
Complaining? No. Just saying that a gatherer has basically no chance of winning in a pvp setting.
U cant kill them if they dont flag
Get good? Idk what to tell u
"people Who are Better at the game than me are more succesful, pls intrepid change that"
Thats how u sound
Really not, but why would i let a lvl 6 Steal my shit, go level up and come gather/fight me after
lol no one cares about kill low levels u guys don’t matter only shitty players like envues care about that
guys, u just "GET GOOD" instantly whenever a group of 8 people who play 12h/day jumps on 1-3 players
PvX means both sides that integrate well. Have artisan rewards through a PvP system, Ezpz
Can you link a message where I asked for a change? 
Also crafters are already so powerful, they are the only way to get bis gear
U should ask for a change since the current iteration Is dogshit
all of these PVP-maxxing andies will bring nothing but trouble
What do pvers provide in a game that has no pve….. I’ll wait
I think some of you are scared of a problem that is mitigated by a bigger map and higher tier gatherables spawning in areas that lowbies are unlikely to be in
I am having fun as is, so I don't need that 
Yeah i dont understand if u dont like pvp why even play this game? Pvp currently Is the only decent aspect of the game bc of the combat system
Pve, gathering, crafting etc.. are the worst aspects of the game
@keen scarab did you see the arena news?
Until November when fishing is BIS gameplay loop
I stopped listening to what Steven says

OH NO I REALLY NEED TO FKING CRAFT THIS LEGO BOW SO I CAN KILL GREMS WITH IT AHHH IM SUCH A GOOD PVERRR
I really dont care about all his bullshit
gathering is fun though? And crafting isnt too slow at all, simply the Wait is all thats annoying. Go to tropics, farm 500 Vulcanic rock, slap it in the smelter, 5 hours later: Boom, Apprenice Smelting. Most of this stuff is doable like this in 1-2 farming loads.
Just get an understanding of it 😮
Fun is subjective
You are wasting your time here...
ofc, yeah
Out of curiosity, how much does smelting 500 volcanic rock cost in terms of reagent + processing fee?
right, and you are not
Yeah thats sounds horrible to me bur everybody enjoys different things
think it was like 70 silver ?
maybe 1g, not sure
You get double fucked by the tax rate processing now
What I mean is that explaining crafting to Ado is not gonna change anything... They are a PvP player, so unless the rock is in a player's inventory, it's not interesting
I’ll vote for anyone who gives me low taxes, BUY MY VOTE
Okay but crafters serve the PvPs like this is not a pve game ur number one customer are PvP players so kinda doesn’t make sense to bitch about PvP
LMAO "your number one customer base is pvp players" what a dream
My #1 customer is me.
XD
lol
Pvp players are also the most hardcore gatherers and crafters btw

NOW GIVE ME MY LEGO BOW BEFORE I GKICK U
that’s how the convo would go don’t lie to urself
say one example of a MMO that is pvp-focused that is not a niche
im not bitching about PvP? Im saying the PVE aspect is quite doable, and not overtuned I think. As soon as apprentice stuff is ready, i have multiple professions ready to craft apprentice gear. And then sell/PvP with it... i think its enjoyable atm!
Albion?
None there all niche this is a niche game
Albion Is not that niche come on, sure maybe compared to wow of ff
But its doing pretty good
There are overlaps, naturally.
Distinction between a hardcore 12 hours a day player and casual 2 hours a day player is also a major factor.
And I feel like the most discord PvP happens between Hardcore PvP and casual artisans
Def not mortal online levels
at this point really buddy if u want 100% pvp just go play FPS games or MOBAs
funny enough not for rock smelting
Yah but if u want good pve go play wow/ff14 lost ark elderscrolls like there all pve focused
its 8c wherever you do it. but the reagent is more expensive in node so you have to haul it from stoneworks
I’ve already been there done that now I’m onto MMOs don’t like it sorry
Most discord pvp happens between people Who know nothing about the game and people Who actually play It
?????????????????????????? IM LITERALLY NOT COMPLAINING xD Im saying its good man... typical PvP player just tryna ragebait lol
You can use the whole “go play X instead” argument against every player base
thew gaslighting is insane in this one
Oh I might be understanding u wrong sorry
casual artisans should never expect to make epic or legendary gear. steven has said so numerous times
Not rage baiting rn I promise
EXACTLY
U GUYS THINK A RANDOM CRAFTER WHO PLAYS 2H X DAY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO MAKE THE BEST LOOT IN THE GAME?
No but they do lol
Recipes Will be gatekept by big pvp guilds Who control the territory
steven even once said "the making of a legendary wold boss item should be server wide news*"
you dont see the demise in your logic of fully open world pvp game? with crafing and gearing and bag loss? it will NEVER work it will NEVER be a full PVP game it will always fail if it caters to PVP players as they will get sick of killing each other whenever the resource of new/casual players is no longer, it will always cannibalize
I think this is missing "by themselves".
I can play 20 minutes a day and make leg high jm weapon if my guild feeds me 
Disclaimer: Theoretical situation if I in fact had an active guild
Can’t wait for the 50,000 wood requirement for a lvl 50 item
this but unironically
Better get choppin
No I’ll be busy
To be fair this idea in general is doa unless perfect execution mmos is moving to instances solo world mmo sometimes slop wow and the new Chinese/ Korean MMOs will prove this
Pvpers Will rule the game, Just take the L
you are dreaming and the harsh reality will hit you
Im not, they already do
That’s every game thou casuals legit never win and then cry and mald and move on to slop
Rinse repeat
I think if you’re expecting to be top dog with zero pvp interaction on Ashes than you may need to do some reading on the wiki
People will respect my fishing boat
I will craft a caravan to take me into a different node 
He’s gonna alt f4 hop on wow and cope with his dad friends
I’ll craft defenses like Fortnite
U cant Ur whole storage Will be locked
That’s not how that works lol
Surprise siege declarations Will be so good i cant wait
Imagine people losing their shit cause they cant access their storage
Little bro we will blockage you with our 50 fishing vessels like Nabu in Episode 1
Well, unless you lock the forest, I don't see how that's stopping me 
Pvpers are not prepared for the Fools Garden Fleet
This game desperately needs node death
Too bad that’s at least 6 months away
Idk about that
Actually we might have a level 4 node by then so…
We had a gm telling us that Is currently functional on Dev branch
No, havnt you heard we’re going djinna
November update probably delayed to Feb, so node siege some time in 2027 TBH 😂
Go farm Najash then and leave Carphin
And i trust a random gm way more than Steven
My 28xp per sandstone isn’t going to get the job done quickly
I don’t wanna farm anymore I wanted to get my professions up today but instead I have to play cs
The next case will be it
The irritating part is Strech is doing 100’s of em and making stacks
Are we all just degenerate gamblers?
Tbf we have named like 5 different things we’ve found this week the “casino” “new casino” “weapon casino” haha
Plus Ksenio which we pronounce casino… 
Nah, we are not
This is proof:
Gamblers love farming, because eventually they will get lucky 😄
it is inferior gambling
is EU down also?
all servers are equally down
i blame EU players us NA never do anything wrong hahaha
NA Master class lol
im so bored help me lol
Play another game?
me im retired but in archeage and archerAGE i ran that shyt robbed every clan from NA to EU all the way to SEA cant stop wont stop the BORDER BOYS
but now im a pver wooot
ok, in that case: PvP sux
and you suck at pve!
its ok im a farmer
Boom, roasted
I know!
I was ranked first while playing bored
its ok sounds like another EU player needs a hug lol its ok buddy
Thanks, I am already feeling better. Still bored, but a bit less.
So, you think they are completely abandoning approach of some meshes giving better rarity vs others giving shit rarity?
hey guys, have you heard about the EU server shutting down forver? now its only going to be US servers
Yes. From the 3-4 troll accounts that yap it non-stop 😄
its fine, EU is dead anyways
I’ve only heard bad things about the US server. Funny enough.
I pray everyday for this
im curious do you guys have an encampment?
The US guys?
nah does eu or lotheria have an encampment? heard low pop and all
Less stones
Yea
Just no village yet, about 50% to one
Winstead is village soon
I mean vs NA we’ve lost what, 9-10 hours of “primetime” since launch
yeah that hasn't helped
We’re definitely more than that away from leveling Winstead 
While it doesn’t help it’s not the sole reason, we are a lower player count
Which is odd, because its pretty finite play space
any tips besides touching grass - during the server downtime ?
The way I see things currently. Is the idiom saying “It's not a sprint, it's a marathon.”
Ye but if pop Is low so soon into the server what happens in a month time
Are you a crafter or gatherer?
Yea we are seeing low numbers, so not sure maybe they wipe eu on the summoner and sub classes release and go full in 1
I’m still playing either way
i play solo so i feel like im both
This Is why a mega server would have been great, but some guilds Just cant keep their mouth shut
Doesn’t matter if it’s dead or not. Things will get done. If things change. Things change. Just don’t force people to play a particular way.
Gl my solo friend, but I’d recommend looking at ashes codex and prepping for what kind of materials you need for apprentice gathering and crafting
Then figure out a route you might want to take to get that stuff
I’m indifferent, I like full EU because when I’m asleep so are a majority of others so the community is condensed into playing all at one time
However if it was eu and na in one I basically wouldn’t interact with half the players
But on the other hand more players on a single server means more chances at content
As a person trying to play with US tune on their timezones. Its not fun. Where my sleeping schedule got destroyed. That it started affecting my health.
I get that and thats super fair argument
But i do believe that having an alive server 24/7 couterweights the downsides
I try to avoid playing US side of things. As much they keep saying come play with us on multiple games.
Yea after all this is all for making the game better, if intrepid needs everyone on a single server to do testing, then that’s their call
People that don’t like that can come back at beta when it splits again
Yeah i Guess the worst part Is that they did Say that another mega server would be beneficial for them, Just to cave in when some people complained
its kinda funny that rogues can use weapons like the 2h great axe and still have access to their "rogue" skills like backstab -
great Class Identity
Let me backstab you with my 2H MACE!
It’s a hard balance to appease the community and their tests. I’m just glad I’m not the one making the choice it’s impossible to keep everyone happy
there is no class identity between weapons
which is also the point
nothing is locked
Yea I love being a tank with a wand 
it's fun people thinking im a rogue when I run around with daggers, rogue with heal skills 😄
Haven’t had a good bow drop yet but I got a decent phys wand
you can, if its against your immersion you dont have to 
i get it like a sword or a spear even maybe 2h sword - but backstab with a mace or axe is new to me xd
i wish that were the only issue i had with the game 
no issue just - as i said its just new to me 😄
If you’re new I’d seriously consider not playing solo
The big thing for this game is the community and social trading aspect
Last I remember the mega sever happening. Some EU guilds banded together. Destroyed the US players completely. That they didn’t want to come on for a time and then that passed. I heard the US players started fighting with a particular group of people that the EU people shrugged and the US players focusing on something else. The EU players did their own thing.
But as far as history goes now. I believe. At least what the difference is in history of the servers currently. Ive been hearing. Is that the US players are disorganised and constantly fighting one another. Whilst I hear EU side of players are more organised in trying to (still) figure out mayorship and plans.
I’m not sure, it’s quite civil atm but we haven’t had any elections yet there could still be sniping etc
Also I didn’t play 2.5 so missed the drama
I played at the start and saw the loops beginning to form. Until I heard the conclusions of those story with the guild I am part with.
I stopped playing at the start. Waiting for phase 3 etc
@keen scarab ping me when merge
Anyone managed to craft wilderness items? Verdant and Tithebrook
if on rogue, thats actually pretty rad
ping me when maint over 2027
WTB mistwood 2H longbow recipe .
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can me someone give a real quick run down off all the major guilds in eu and what their goals are?
Would prefer that only guild members would represent themselves. Dont care about your current drama. Just wanna know what i can expect if i see your tag
What do you mean you don't care about the current drama? That's a half of the gameplay.
Check the eu-guild-recruitment channel.
just wanna know if your guild is focusing on pvp, crafting, has a goal, or just wants to troll
ah thx, somebody pointed me here
haha nah go recruitment. all guilds post their ambition there
take some time to read though
all guilds have their niche
I wonder if it is worth it on the server to get better tools now or wait untill a building is up in a node.
well the tools are not yet fixed for artisan.. but personally I consider it wise to grind up to your desired tool
problem is that you need weapon crafts that you know can reach level 10 as it cannot be player made any more
Have materials ready for it
The minute the bench comes up it’s gonna be a race to collect all the next tier shit that’s been growing
Most guilds have all types of players, from pvp-ers, pve-ers to trolls. Some are more hardcore then others, usually an indication on the sort of drama/trolling you can expect.
And trust me, you’re gonna lose that race 
true. without a level 10 weaponsmith ready though that race might be relatively narrowed down to a few guilds 😂😝
You see, like @brave sage said, trolls 😄
Not trolling, just facts. There are guilds with level 10 weaponsmiths already done and materials gathered for 10+ gatherers
oh for sure man
Looking forward to the construction of the settlements in the world. I think it will add so much to the gameplay coming forward this week.
There are solo players with 10 weaponsmithing too. (me for instance) It's not that hard, just expensive.
Yup there will be people like that too, but you’re fighting a losing battle against dozens of others to collect the first major wave of T2 resources
maybe a nice project for when I'm bored.
I wonder how to make money in a rather good pace. What I found was woodcutting did a good job at it, low repair costs and high yield (adults trees only)
Yeah I'm going on holiday tomorrow so I'm losing by default 🥲 Was hoping the apprentice benches would come up before then
We’re probably still a ways out from apprentice benches
Like someone stated before, no one other then myself can make gathering tools for lvl 10+?
PvE glint makes good money.. once markets are out people will buy anything you have too of resources you're not donating
that changed
Yeah you can trade the tools now
I like that tbh.
Nice! Just trying to get my facts straight. Been out of the running for a bit.
Should have been like that in the first place
reminds me of runescape woodcutting axes back in 2001 xd
Every tool replacement before just deleted it
yeah
I think on some ideas intrepid (or steven) have sound great in the mind but do not work in the world they created so far.
Same, now I wanna do that as well 😉
But I am doing animal husbandry now and that is taking a LOT of money ....
I wish but this bobs dont want to 
Depends on what you ask, been debating howmuch I should/would/could sell something for with the current economy in the game being there. So getting it started takes 75 Silver. Then there is a 50/50 chance it either being a carriage or mount. If it goes wrong it is, in this stage of the server, wasted if it is a carriage unit. Then if to sell it, 80 Silver? 90 Silver? 1Gold? Because of the 50/50 you preferably wanna ask 1.5G to get 2 done and hopefully 1 will be a mount you can ride.
any idea when the server is supposed to come back up?
probably few can pay 1.5g though
Check #alpha-two-news there should be your real time there.
but at the same time, I see your point
In my broke as guild most people have barely passed 20 silver.... hahaha
ahh I see it now, thanks. must have over looked it
i would have passed 5g if arcane engineering crafts wouldn't be that fucking expensive 👨🏼🦯
So the current market would be more inclined to ask for those who want to buy a 145% or 140% mount speeds would pay? Like a survey.
i would pay 1g. then I'd still have leftover for repairs lol
You rich! 😄
right.. I'm doing the same shit I do every phase
level every class to 12 before making up my.mind which to push to 25
as thus lagging behind lol
I noticed woodcutting and commissions, if those 2 are combined, give me the most money and/or glint.
What class you working on now?
city commisions or lionhold?
City.
currently.. my fighter
Then you also get exp for that city and the boxes.
i gotta try that
Gathering commisions are when a node (hh,,,...hfge SETTLEMENT) is lvl 1 or 2.
Also boxes can give some Guild Exp. I know the little item gives only 1 but if the guild works together, you gotta start somewhere.
smart
So lets say you gotta cut down 20 Oak trees. 20 x adult trees is 5 (some rare occasion you get 6) logs. You get glint from the quest, mostly 1 green or a bit more. Also xp, city xp and profession xp when doing it.
A stack of 20 wood (common) is 1 S and that times 5 is 5 Silver. Hitting something will decrease the axe by 3 and costs 2 copper. So total costs are 40 copper probably and you get 4 silver and keep 60 copper profit. The the glint if you sell it, is 1S at a minimum. Then the 3 boxes you get, those can drop scrolls, guild token, potions for healing etc. All of this for 30 minutes of work?
yo
Hi!
i wanna play
The game?
yay
Ahh ok, sorry, mind isn't in the right place. We can this evening!
Play the game that is
Is this what contesting cartel is like? 
If you see The cartel run away.
if you see Holiday, expect to get griefed.
if you see KDS expect rp'ers
if you see Dark Star expect furries
if you see Actual Pirates let me know so i can farm them, ty 🙂
off the top of my head this phase I think it's like:
Cartel, Holiday, Havoc = PvP focused
Everyone else = semi-active PvX/crafting/community focused guilds
Wait did Actual Pirates show up on EU?
gets better at high level too. the journeyman stuff you can gather and sell sells for tons
If you see anyone from 2nd Wind, expect friendly hugs 😄
They skeered of NA so came to attempt to bully us?
Holiday 
I think the yourneyman, if not mistaken for Phase 1 and 2, sell for 25S for a stack of 20.
EU is so chill I love it here.
I hate it here
Good PVP with way less drama
There Is no good pvp
I want a server merge
This server Is a graveyard
Phase 1 EU was so chill. Phase 2 got a lot more PvP
Everyone is either leveling, or some are even max level and go to Highwayman Hills as a lawless zone to kill lvl ~10
No way someone would do that
If EU is so awful go NA, or can you not hack it there and picking on newbies is more your speed.
Someone no, some guild called cartel steamrolled through it with their lvl 24/25 players 3 days ago it was I believe. Died myself there. It is what it is.
why would I go NA when I can just force a server merge
Kinda based man
No way i know cartel they are gatherers
Do u think there's hope the server will be up earlier than stated?(
Seems they are, gathering corpses. Maybe you and I are talking about different cartel guilds, could be
They came to do pve things in a dead server
I get it tbh
Thats why I want to farm them now
Maybe yeah, the ones i know suck at the game
Oh my sweet summer child
Anyone has a link to the lotheria server? I would like to see how we are planning to build it up this time.. 😛
Send it to you
Cartel guild helped me gather ash wood for my craft they are great guys idk why u hatin
@fathom lintel .I never said I hated them did I. I would refrain from making assumptions because this could lead to misunderstanding. I am just stating what happened to me and the groups present at the timebeing. And if you would take the time to read to the end of my post there, I did state, 'it is what it is'. I have a good understanding of what PvP is and expect to be killed by almost anyone and anywhere.

can you send the lotheria server invite to me aswell ty in advance
It has been send Sir/Ma'am
what are u doing here go to epoch discord
When is the next Cartel hosted newbie power leveling event. I need to gear some alts
next pvp zone, gather there
@vast dune
Just read your post on the feedback,
On the topic of corpse looting I agree with you. They need a system to keep the person/ who looted your corpse flagged for alot longer but only for the victims of the looting. So you have a chance to go fight for revenge
that would mean you respawn right around the corner most of the time which isnt a good thing
Why isn't that a good thing, getting party wiped or whatever and just seeing corpse merchants Sat there with no risk.
Can't go back and fight them because corruption
so if i want to contest something and i have to flag up and kill you, you walk back in 2min which would make it meaningless
which also means i cant kill you anymore because i would lose my gear if i do

little bonus before i get my pizza out of the oven which did happen alot in p2
when doing caravan and people attack you they literally just throw their bodies at it til its destroyed via just walking back to it with all the embers around and having spawn protection, absolutely terrible
even if you wiped the enemy they would be back in seconds
merge when
funnily enough I actually wrote an entire feedback report about this
ye, idk why every poi needs to have a respawn point but
we've been other this
hmhm
what is the drama going?
After we get all boss gear we can merge 😄
i wonder if anyone will ever contest 
i hope
hey , noob question here : how do you get new mounts ?
i saw low level players with exotic mounts and im wondering how they got them
skins from the pre alpha 2 packages
animal husbandry in combination with the hunting gathering system
mhh that makes sense thank you ❤️
soon
is cooking and alchemie worth doing as professions?
any serious player will want food/scrolls/pots
eta 2 hours till i can go back to afk fishing 

no way why would anyone come to a pvp zone and kill low lvls... shame
in theory yes, realistically no unless you have people who do gear for you and shit
like in a cp where everything is covered
and is it good to do cooking and alchemie together and which other professions u would choose because u only can do 2 grand master?
is this combination good?

sorry but crafting and shit is not my expertise really
im in the beefing type business
@jagged kite is great pve expert tho
ur written herb guides are pretty good, no denying
can update
looks good, I'd probably argue Farming to be higher if you're solo or low group, but still good
yeah but i was checking recipies and saw many need fish also at journyman thats why i thought fishing at master is better because u are limited
im max with this setup that why was asking maby someone has a better setup for it ^^
for grandmaster processing/crafting professions you're never going to be able to get all you need yourself. There's gonna be a ton of fish in the market coz people like to fish whilst afk, although that will change when sport fishing comes. Personally I'd rather do the farming myself as it's more specific. But if you've got a friend/guild member who does farming or just really want the other ones then by all means go for it
At the end of the day, it's a good setup, and if you wanna do/enjoy those professions more that's more important.
true thats a good point with the fishing never thought about it that way
game saved?
Does anyone know if there is an apprentice weaponsmithing table available yet?
When Winstead levels
WOO! Thank you.
But when
I ddon't think you understand what we were on about, not going to explain
Anyone knows how the NOdes on NA server is looking? any towns
winstead is lvl 3 on NA
damn gotch
slackers
Somewhere between now and forever
Bro, look at our levels 😄
anyone can help me with a PC for daffodiles? (heroic / leg) 😄
never beating the allegations now
so easy when people cant just cc me and take my nodes
Don't think i will be using Mount Dash for a lil bit xD
que the video where some guild forgot the name won a war against us by cutting down trees montage 
oh god the fishing derby / lumberjack guild wars 
LJ gapped get rekt
yea was a lumberjack war
@woeful veldt
which guild was it
i remember izzy was in the vid
I really hope it was one of the dad guilds
somebody did the same to us
lost the war cause they chopped trees
was kinda crazy ngl
it was
the idea of a dad guild war deccing SD and chopping trees to win is actually hilarious
(im assuming it was P1/P2)
p2, idk if it was sd or rent free at this point
in nov they better add sport fishing guild wars
fleets of ships trying to fish while everyone also kills each would be a fun time
i hope there is natural pvp 
imagine if the open seas dont stay lawless 
IM TRYING
no ur fishing
im not honest!"
dont tell jayco
unironically if yapping gatherers with their epic/leg mats could process the fuckers winstead would get some good xp
steelbloom is full of parties from what I heard
HH must be

wait processing gives nothing to the node
intrepid are scamming us
?
which guild gapped you at lumberjacking guild war?
tank still not reworked btw
Daven said it not me 
i saw a vid with a lumberjack war that no one fought out but they decieded to start chopping wood like crazy
and ur name was in it
i just dont remember what guild it was
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brilliant 
I dont know why but the montage of chopping trees with WAR playing has absolutely killed me 

Big up Krem 
WTB any energy focus (physical)
Oh yeah 😂
I remember that
Bizzy Izzy
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which apprentice stations do we already have on the server?
Unless winstead did 50% overnight I think none
alr i thought so but wanted to be sure ^^ thanks mate
bc they focus on only 2-3 nodes...🗿
and they are more players on top of that
yeah true in EU you can have one node for every player
Explain pls what is a vassel cuck 
the Lifts on the way to Hammer Rest are bugged ive been waiting here for 15 min - now i have to go all the way around the mountain lol
is there any admin or someone who should know this ?
i thought they fixed it two days ago
/bug it, as Gejeeto said this was supposedly fixed already, but I guess not
I have the same issue, already reported. I can’t go ahead with that main q
Elevators not working gives me very bad star citizen vibes
Cos the moment 80% of EU people log in, the realms go down 
kinda true
that's 17 people idk
not gonna lie, eu is looking kinda grim.. less than 30 people at the cookhouse fishing spot atm
winstead at 66%
It's 12 pm on a workday
Exactly
surely the people at work afk fish too (couldn't be me)
That's peak time for MMO fans
and i'm sure we'll get another primetime patch today with another attempt at fixing gathering rarity
We aren't all students anymore 😉
Bro that's the problem, too many damn fishers, go grind 
give me a patch that requires interact to be pressed to collect the fish
They already announced Tuesdays as the major patch day going forward ,excluding hot fixes, which there are currently still a lot of
And the only you can do with Frostflash right is oil, which cannot be used yet I believe
no shot winstead is STILL at 66%
well, you can still vendor the fish; and if you leave the game running for 8 hours straight, it does add up
on the electricity bill
wtf are the pve players doing
definitely not leveling anvil nodes
cos those are nowhere near
this shit is so dead 
Tho it doesn't really surprise me... when all node commissions have quest areas around other nodes 
like... why...
"I want to help Kal Torhum."
- "Okay, now travel to Duunhold."

I think I'm gonna move to NA, I've been playing super casually and leveling 2 characters while helping newbs and still can't find any groups in my level range
You can't afk fish for 8 hrs, it kicks you for being afk after like 20-30 mins
U should, playing like this Is horrible
And the people Who gaslight u that everything Is fine and pop Is not a problem are even worst
Maybe I can pug for carph or forge there
I think a lot of people are new or took long breaks so they don't know what a full server is like
But the fact that they didn't publish player numbers like they usually did says everything
No thats the problem
The majority of players crying are people Who have been playing since p1
The "big" EU guilds
Bunch of fucking pussies
Also it's 11am on a weekday lmao, people are at work and we get fkked because when we get off work they do a 1 hr maint like cmon bro use your brain
We're not talking about this moment
Like ye it's shit but intrepid isn't exactly helping tbh
I'm not even playing at this time, there is no point
I'm playing bannerlord and watching netflix
We hade 50 people in the riverlands on a saturday night
Prime time eu
Still though the evening is the 'most busy' but people are kinda already tired of the maint, etc
Also the fucking rp guilds are leveling anvils for some reason 
A lot of guilds just went NA at the start anyway as well right?
No i dont think there Is a single eu guild Who went na
Eu Just doesnt play this game
I mean can you blame them? It's phase 2.9 and out of like over 100 people who I tried to get to play again 1 tried it
Old problems exist, it's just the same grind again
Yeah game has been on a downfall since p2
but i gotta work, checking my fishes every 30 mins is the best i can do 😄
Well, you log in, you see that crafting is fucked, you somehow push thru to get gear that's worse than what you start with.
At that point you look around like "what the fuck, game?" and leave to play [insert game].
But ya dunno, been trying to help new players as much as possible and get them to keep playing but many are quitting because of droprates, crafting or griefing
Yup I don't blame them, i sucked it up and playing it in the hopes of it being better and while it's smoother in terms of the server everything else is fkked
Drop rates are not even that bad come on
I think someone should politely ask their math guy if he in fact knows how to math
Oh yeah, I'm in full radiant besides 2 items, the issue is that low levels struggle
Their math guy Is called grok
How are you not fixing hunting and now moving on to introducing new storylines and shit, crafting recipes broken, mats don't exist. Some are easy changes and it's just not done, even if its a temp fix, just do it for QoL
I take that as a no
The droprates for level 20 gear are crazy, but people quit before they get to the point of doing 20-30 pulls in steelbloom
I think people struggle cause they are obsessed with hh, this phase Is Just a bait, there are way Better spots
Ye there are 1-2 guilds just going around and killing low lvls, dunno why lmao. They don't even take the spot, just wait then kill them again when they come back
I would understand if the things that are hard to test were broken. But the stuff that's broken are things that are blatantly obvious without any testing
Why are ado and miriku the only smart eu people I ever see type no glaze thou eu is ass
Ya but the early game means everything to new players, they're not interesting in running around for hours to test spots to maybe get a single item. They want to test different weapons, play the game, get excited
Probably because its a pvp zone
Pretty much, like the wilderness essence in anvils lmao
Nah it's not that
I agree, First time user experience Is horrible, and that the thing they worked on the most in the last months, its very concerning
watch them nerf the lv20 gear droprates as soon as i get to relevant levels 
or inability to equip a focus into a ranged slot without having your melee offhand slot filled... 
Yeah, people should be in full grey gear with a selection of weapons within a few hours ANYWHERE they can level/grind
U can do that, u Need to drag the focus
Also they put Bucky as head of the narrative team. LIKE WHATTTTTT
?????????
Like honestly even if 1/10 goblins would drop a grey item level 0 WHO CARES
THEY DID WHAT?
Lmao i didn't even know that, i still have my trusty rusty scepter xD
I did that; until my melee offhand was filled, it just went into melee offhand slot
I am not trolling bro that is real. SUMMONER IS NOT EVEN RELASED AND THEY MADE BUCKY HEAD OF NARRATIVE LIKE WHATTTTT
Economy is flooded already, do a few hours of steelbloom and you have enough gear for 5 characters
Also ye I think you have to drag, coz when I crafted a focus and clicked it. It unequipped my spellbook, but when I dragged it into the slot with a melee wep I could have both
the interaction is... messy... to say the least
No shot, the only guy who could design classes now is in charge of quests 
cant make this shit up
If you do big enough pulls in steelbloom the server tickrate goes down and the mobs barely do anything anymore. it's a snowball effect leading to absolute mad gearfarming
it's probably easier to have someone ruin bard and rogue than reworking everything else
Summoner apparently coming to ptr in the next few months. On god I hope they listen to the feedback we give
they dont care about feedback
Can't wait for summoner to be the best tank so you want full magical parties
Like with crafting? or... keybinds? ... or TANK? 
They do care about people crying like dogs for something like EU server 
Isn't spellboook a 2hand weapon?
Nooooo don't remind me

how many people can even cry? there is nobody
Population is quite high on Discord
We like to cry at work
So people cry for an EU server and then don't play, I love it
Legit question they all quitted already
True tbh, ppl kinda put it on the shelve coz its kinda worse than we thought already
true 
Again don’t blame eu for ur dog ass server blame Steven for prioritizing pirate software over game health.
I mean honestly I dunno, I know a lot went NA from the start
but those are the paypigs they can milk for money
Bro shut up and go back to trolling in #alpha-two-general
he is 100% right tho
How does it have anything to do with pirate? Lmao
care to elaborate?
(I barely know who he is, so I am missing the context here)
Are u mad because im the goat of trolling and also have good takes. Please don’t bring up my trolling in a server only section of the disc when im not trolling
We re gonna meet where winds meet
That game looks pretty good
Okay so Steven know eu doesn’t have pop to maintain server announces it will be mega pirate says I don’t wanna play mega make another server so Steven opens up server for pirate ( big streamer supposedly has 10k player count guild blah blah blah ) claims it’s eu pirate leaves first day of wipe server immediately dead
he is a big streamer who was interested in the game at some point, but he got his ass kicked during phase 2, skipped 2.5 and now he is back on p3 but instead of going na he decided to roll eu cause he was scared of the competition, tinfoil hat theories says that this pushed steven to have 2 servers instead of one
but in the end the guy is not even playing the game, and neither is his community so eu is empty
where the winds meets is the first mmo of the new mmo generation( well retail wow too) it’s basically the future of MMOs it’s gonna be pretty fun
doesn't bother me in the slightest if Pirate is on Loth, his guild only really plays while he's active. the rest of the time, the server is just as empty as normal. lol
That’s the point they made a whole sever for him because he said he was gonna bring numbers but game is so shit he left and basically killed y’all’s sever
I'd say that's a bit of a reach tbh, but I get the viewpoint
What's more dumb is the ppl crying for EU server and then don't play
the server is doing fine, it's just building slower than Shol, which I am also fine with. more materials for me I say.
thats 80% of eu guilds
Ye i dunno, I still see full groups and people running around farming, grinding and trading in the evening
STEVEN KNEW THIS WAS THE CASE WE TOLD HIM pirate convinced him otherwise there is no other explanation as to why u would waste money on a dead sever
So i dunno how ppl are saying it's dead, we always had less pop than NA
so what people miss is that sure there are SOME people now, but what happens in a month time? This phase had the lowest amount of people starting that i ever seen
I saw russian in chat, I disabled chat
, but I still do see people taking my rocks 
Not dead enough for pleasant gathering 
How many eu players do u think are on during prime time? If its less then 1k sever is dead
brother its way less 
Never saw any russian lmao
The have alien in area 51, am i right? you're one of those types 🗿
i would say 500 to 800 players top
I blocked like 50 on day 1
That’s good atleast I want eu to have good pop I like fighting eu way better then average na
Please no trolling rn we’re talking business
Have we ever had 1k on eu? Pop been going down every test phase lmao
based on what source?
I'min USA and I joined th EU server becasue I don't like a LOT of the people playing on the NA server. lol
i made it up
cool, just so we're on the same page
Bro we are expirenced players we know when the server is packed and when it’s dead lmfao
im just guessing obv i dont have any sources
sure my bad mate, iam sry 🤘🏼😔
Did it help? I am really waiting for the JP server 
The fact they didn’t release a player count when they have for p1 p2 p2.5 shows u it’s not very good
but i played saturday night, there were like 20-30 people in steelbloom
I rolled on the US server. Read world chat for 30 minutes. Deleted character and re-rolled EU. That server was a cesspit of toxicity, quite happy to be on a quiet, more friendly EU server (just my opinion)
How is that good data we don’t want dead servers in this game we want servers packed to brim and only when that happens will another be made
and still no one is grinding carphin 
That is sad
I lfg for carphin since 2 days
:(
i have seen people pulling mobs from outside the tower
i think havoc was grinding second floor at some point
I just dunno what to do, the people with levels for it don't take pugs
but its actually scary to see the tower this empty
Well lemme know if you wanna do it
If only there was a mega server with more people to play with
is there is
we are almost done with carphin grind 
rest of the phase will be spent burning caravans and waiting for crafting station to come up i guess
if I wait 1-2 weeks for the few people left on the server to reach the level then I'm not coming back
and I won't gather 1080 copper for a weapon
u shouldnt, just stop play and hope for a merge
If I stop playing I don't come back until a wipe, I know myself
@keen scarab damn another day and lo and behold youre still complaining 🤣
not even a bad idea tbh
:(
just having a conversation with some buddies
Why are u mad at constructive feedback?
LMAO sure
Also that's another problem, some guild groups not taking pugs so ppl are just left out. Make a group in chat, I was lfg for 15 mins and nothing. As soon as I start a group I get spammed with whispers asking to inv
No need to be scared to use chat guys 
I’m telling u man I think fungi fellowship would really suit u if ur more of a casual chill player
Like this game u need a guild not solo friendly one but
i mean pugging in this game is horrible, cant blame guilds who actually have players if they dont wanna do it
I hate mushrooms
guys it’s a guild based game suck it up step out of ur comfort zone and make friends it’s not that hard and pretty fun
Ye I kinda get it, ppl have that WoW mentality and they don't read chat when u try to even hemp them
could always bring your own friends.... if you have any.
:( I'm a good pug I swear
I do but rarely other people do the same
We gotta get out of this mentality we gotta start making friends in game it’s the funniest shit to do I swear to god
Brought over 100 people to the game, 1 of them tried this wipe and already quit
I don’t even know this @keen scarab guy but i consider him my friend because we share the same views even thou I hate eu
the issue is making friends around your level who aren't in a guild

Okay that’s sad tbh I feel ur pain none of my friends I started with play anymore but I made more friends
I made friends too, they're now level 12 and I'm 22 and 16
I tried joining a pug group for forge
it took them 12 minutes to kill a single dwarf

i feel like in order to grind forge efficently u need to have decent gear
too many hp sponges and mobs with shields
I dunno, I'm fully decked with steelbloom gear
It's forge or carphin, right?
Idk what else to do
how much power u have
not much I'm tank, like 150
My core groups is myself as a tank, my friend as a cleric, another friend as a bard, and a mage and ranger for dps. heh we do well enough.
Now imagine your friends all quit
and you're the idiot who doesn't enjoy battlefield 6 so you remain alone
I like teaming with new players and having some adventures with them. But I also wanna progress
I'd invite ya to come play with us for a while and see if you like it, but my friends are all offline right now, it's just me. we are all US timezones, so...
I dunno my timezone
where are you on the big round rock?
time is a construct
elevator to Hammer rest dosent work
welcome to star citizen
HAHA
Danm Zoltar this made me really proud big ups to you my guy
That’s how we take initiative doesn’t always pan out but never give up
do you run carphin/forge?
right now, no, but eventually, yes
:c
we are all around lvl 10ish
:<
I don't wanna make a 3rd characer to have people to play with again
I think I made over 20 characters within the last year :( I'm a bit over it
not that they all reach lvl 25 but dunno, the start is getting a bit repeatitive
hehe I understand that
don't have ajob, but I'm also in no hurry to level to end game. I am enjoying myself and doing stupid stuff on my way to max level. it is a test afterall.
;_; the closer you are to endgame the sader you get
lol
take your time, it's wise
yup
more end than game right now when you reach it :p
whos exploiting again 😡
We should do gamba and bets on when/if EU will manage to get a city node settlement
Winstead is on track for 3-5 more days. heh
Joeva is good for another 2-3 days after I think
small chance Winstead levels tonight
I mean, we could force them to grow, by working together on one town at a time tuntil they all do... just sayin'.
Do commisions from Winstead give it a good amount of XP? or is it jsut mob grinding in it's ZOI?
windstead 70 %
I think winstead hits by tomorrow no? I'll ping later in chat if ppl wanna grind or smth to help. I wanna get my damn apprentice tools already
lets just hope we don't get another day of downtime ^^
nono a city, the big new tier with stone walls
I think there's about a 10% chance of no downtime tonight
It was 45-50% yesterday it very well could get there tonight, probably tomorrow though
👀
wtb rare bluegill 
@worn zinc Do you know if the Winstead Settlement will level to T3 on EU like in NA at 70%? We got a whole raid waiting in anticipation... 
was hoping it would be at 64% like encampment, can't really remember for village, would be nice though 😄
@worn zinc they should just buff the node xp one eu for each down time so that would like 35 % buff
no shot 
NA's levelled at 70% so that triggers the copium clause in my contract

It will be tomorrow 100%
Steven levelled it up with admin tools because he was bored waiting
Eh? 
I heard they did that for the lvl 0 nodes coz they were busted but not later as well right? 
they boosted them in p2 so i wouldnt be surprised
Man, not being the "Hates EU" allegations
That was a joke FWIW 👀
Bard and tank looking for a PvP guild, English speaking.
Still on the level grind, both zvz players in Albion online, looking for semi hardcore !
Need these puppies laminated
be happy while you still have your hair
Accoring to my friends I don't have hair
that's how it starts
It grows as you lvl 
hello, could any miner help me with mats prices please?
no downtime?
Hmmm. We got Animal Husbandry Station, then we also need Anime Waifu Station next pls 🙂
Hey @regal pond, winstead is not leveling after 72% unlike NA server. Is there a problem with settlements leveling up in NA or EU?
does the game always set its resolution back for anyone else on start up
my resolution won't stay at 4k
they rlly need to do server restart, who else is experiencing laggs ?
Bullshit...

where do i find the vendor to buy apprentice tailoring shirts and gathering bag recipies ?
suicide time

SW 48 is lagging as heck
So, I am citizen of Winstead now and pay my first tax. is there not a citizen storage anymore in Villages?
Well this lag is fun
where tf is the commodity vendor
is some GM online on EU server? we are full group stuck in a dungeon @gm
by the town hall usually
why cant i become a citizen?
certs on the vendor next to the town hall
Remember people, your tools need weapon molds 
Anyone had an issue becoming citizen of Winstead? I have a tax voucher it says you are a citizen now but it doesnt make me a citizen
Relogg for 15 seconds or character dissapears
Try again
fixed it, appreciated

just crashed ye
yeah I've just frozen in placebut still seeing others move around
relog fixed it for me
laggggggggging wtf whats going on with Winstead
@pallid elk We're experiencing server wide lag/freezes
lag freez near winstead Steelbloom
We're looking into this. Thanks everyone for the reports.
Hey folks! If you are experiencing lag, can you please relog and let me know if that does not fix it? Please and thanks!
For a moment it lags as if there was DDoS, I relog, and it continues, but now I don't feel it anymore, I think there is a small DDoS attack
I logged off, waited 30 seconds, logged in. Still lagging
relogging doesnt seem to fix the rubberbanding on SW 48, leaving the SW does though..
Got ya! You were in SW48?
What SW were you in @flint cloak ?
Yep from middle of winstead all the way out to the SW 49 boundary you get rubber banding (i cant remember what SW the actual Winstead town is in)
I don't even know what an SW is 😅
press page up 🙂 it tells you the server worker (SW) youre on
Another wipe another first 2 weeks of steel bloom being the somme equivalent of a server
It's a Server Worker - it's how we define where you are in the world for our Gridding System.
If you click PageUp, it should show you "SW+no".
Thank you!
Assuming 48 is the middle of winstead as well, its basically been bad since the node leveled up. (partly of course because the entire server went there)
lag again after a reboot near winstead Steelbloom
Steelbloom being so close it has always made Winstead feel insanely laggy.
It was fine untill the the node leveled up and the whole server came there indeed 😛
winstead having steelbloom and HH has always caused problems
Still happening after multiple relogs. The entire server is complaining about it. Windstead hit village today and all the players have moved there, its clearly struggling a lot
Yep, team is investigating. 
Thank you all for your patience and answering questions!
Finally managed to enter SW 45 and it seems to work normal indeed
Windstead seems a lot more stable already. Rubberbanding is gone for me, just usual frame rate drop entering busy town
not playable the laggs, getting perm. back ported
We did some mitigation, but there were still some lingering issues. If you do continue to have any problems with lag or rubberbanding, you will first want to try relogging on the game client. If immediately relogging doesn't fix the issue, you can try logging out for 4-5 minutes so that your connection completely resets. Then log back in to the game.
nice one thanks
@worn zinc Can we please get Lawless zones in SteelBloom, Forge and Carphin?
only having them in the low level POI's is such a missed home run
Steelbloom has had the lawless before I'm pretty sure
hey wassup gamer
Wait NA has towns and we don't even have a village?
neckbeards no-lifing 24/7 getting results 🙂
EU wanted own server
got own server
dont play own server
come play on NA
very nice
still popping ranger?
Was mostly playing tank on EU but it's too exhausting to pve, you actually gotta look at your main monitor
fair fair
@worn zinc @shrewd sapphire Whats the reason the commission boards at the trading posts in the anvils are bugged since monday's rollback :S. They are stuck at waiting orders -112d,13h,20m
Connection wise, is it working fine to play on NA server from EU?
NA has a node siege already declared (not node war).
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hMu5pX-hgLQ/sddefault.jpg
EU capital city
You may laugh, but I'm upset :(
Youre always upset about something tbf. Want a snack?
selfmade?
I just woke up so no xD
is it normal ?
Yeah? Did you demote your hunting to novice?
no i try to demote to know if I am a good apprentice
Its in the carpentry station , it now requires apprentice carpentry
Ah, it's carpenter i need to apprentice, okay, my bad
thx !
better than playing with monkeys, terrorist janky trash NA
this is how people greeted me on NA
is there any reason I cannot become a citizen in winstead? 
Rep?
I need to do anything beside just like, having a tax voucher and speaking to the sheriff? cause he says smth like superb, my new fellow citizen , but im not getting citizenship lol
what's rep
You’re doing it right. It’s just very buggy, try relogging for 30secs then trying again
Yea its pretty good actually
and then you tricked me into a 2h hike from anvil to riverlands -.-
an adventure :(
Hey i'm new to the game and i'm lost... i don't understand the crafting yeat....any one there will do me a faver and make me some gear ore a bow for lvl 5? i fill like i do no dmg and die ^^ please
I cant craft that anyway 😆 anvils physical gear, don't seem to be able to craft anything but default recipes
What’s the going rate for mounts these days?
two children and a kidney
Hmmm. Got one child and 2 kidneys 🙁
always too high
Hear ye, hear ye, noble folk of Winstead!
Long have we prospered under the banner of unity, and long have we awaited a leader bold enough to shape our destiny. When the call was made for EU servers, it was Prometeu who rose above the crowd. With vision, strength, and unwavering resolve, he carved a path that many thought impossible, and through his efforts the gates to a greater realm were opened.
Now, people of Winsted, the hour has come once more. A choice lies before us—not of mere politics, but of legacy. Shall Winstead remain a small town in the shadows, or shall it rise to glory beneath the guiding hand of Prometeu!
He has proven his might. He has shown his devotion. Let us grant him the mantle of mayor, that he may forge Winsted into a stronghold of greatness, a city whose name shall echo across the lands.
Raise your banners, lend your voices, and cast your vote for Prometeu!
For Winstead, for glory, for the future!
Don’t think it helps that processing alone is 75s and not guaranteed a mount 🙁
Is there any focus in the starter area?
There should be one in the area.
Yeah, should be.
I know I have picked one up before, but could also be bugged. Stranger things have happened. 😅
I know there was one on the PTR but I couldn’t find it in P3
Hi guys, me and my wife cannot proceed as we get an error message both:
sorry if its known!
resolved, just need to wait a bit 🙂
Glad they got it resolved.
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