alpha-two-lotharia-eu

[pure knot]

what do we need to do to get apprentice in winstead?

[sly turret]

idk why ppl are complaining, it'd be the same maintenance hours if it were an NA server

[distant hill]

Lvl up the node

[small wolf]

at least I want to have EU server that we actually even have prime time, if we would be in NA we would always play off hours

[pure knot]

Oh I thought encampment was enough

[sly turret]

EU server is literally so that you don't play on unbearable ping

[pure knot]

Fair enough

[pure knot]

Same host fake news

[distant hill]

Except ping was bearable on NA

So that’s a non issue

[small wolf]

ping is not really an issue in tab target game

[pure knot]

It’s hosted on US-east-1

[minor owl]

what's on eu-north-1 then?

[pure knot]

Nothing

[small wolf]

deez nuts

[minor owl]

then why is all the game traffic going there

[reef sapphire]

wtb 2x verdant oath emblem 😉 winstead

[keen scarab]

Anyone selling mounts

[small wolf]

isnt the stream today?

[floral sentinel]

Yes

[small wolf]

ah in 2 hours

[fervent charm]

Hard to say tbh

[golden jetty]

We just need to consistently wipe all the levelling groups in the dynamic lawless pvp zones. so EU dies faster and we get a merge quicker

[karmic imp]

@ember wraith Hello. Is it possible to stop ruining EU prime time with daily updates somehow please? No offense, but that's just negative experience for all of us.

[versed marsh]

#alpha-two-lotharia-eu message

[eternal fulcrum]

anyone having issues logging in

[versed marsh]

#alpha-two-news message

[eternal fulcrum]

no links

[versed marsh]

#alpha-two-lotharia-eu message

[versed marsh]

Can you just do this to farm global for reactions anyway?

Its too peaceful

[keen scarab]

Cause nobody Is playing

[eternal fulcrum]

i saw 5 ppl at starting zone

[nova heath]

#p4hype

[eternal fulcrum]

i was told 100k new players came this phase

[versed marsh]

this phase started 3 months ago

[ocean cipher]

Im just sitting here vibrating waiting to get back in

[glacial escarp]

smartest man

[paper hawk]

Yall we need some effort in the Anvils to get the nodes going.

All the try hards in River lands grinding the same ole content putting us to shame

[eternal fulcrum]

idk what that sentence even means im new

[acoustic hemlock]

Tell me what I gotta do boss, just about to hit level 10 but i'm big noob

[crimson salmon]

You can update

[keen scarab]

I thought the entire eu pop was in the anvils

[minor owl]

100% of the people that started in the anvils, started in the anvils

[keen scarab]

Well riverlands are empty so i Just assumed everybody was dwarf rping there

[minor owl]

lagged out hh, overfarmed hoj, sephi, yup it's completely empty

[wraith rover]

I was in Sephi whole day yesterday and barely anyone else was there. We got all named on rotation

[fringe saddle]

thats stupid, US on phase 2 had same time for maintenance. It was always bad for EU players.

[crimson salmon]

Rly not that bad as it is dinner time in most of eu any ways

[minor owl]

see, not empty

[carmine patio]

can someone explain me what am i doing wrong, 2 times a guy loot my corpse and just left mounted while i was hitting him, is there a correct way to dismount like applying a specific cc or deal certain amount of damage? Its supposed to get away so easily or did i fail something?

[fringe saddle]

its bad, for me it comes back almost at same time as I need to go to sleep.

[minor owl]

So you have only 1 hour to play, and that happens to match the usual downtime?

[wraith umbra]

its a bit wonky but applying chill/slows to the mount instead of the player slows them

[fringe saddle]

no I play 1hour before maint, and after I can do 1 more depends on how long it is.

[carmine patio]

gotcha ty

[paper hawk]

Just look at the node growth to see the reality of the population.

[raw compass]

wts vw passat 1,6 tdi

[flat raft]

b5 passat wagon master race report in

[raw compass]

xD

[flat raft]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17800533426298923867

[keen scarab]

well riverlands nodes got manually boosted by devs yesterday

[floral sentinel]

Damnit

How much?

[minor owl]

nah, they always level up at 64%

[paper hawk]

Dafuq

[paper hawk]

None of the avil nodes do, we had to grind that shit all the way to 100

[keen scarab]

somebody said they were yesterday, and since there are only 5 parties grinding its not hard to believe

[minor owl]

dunno about first levels, but both joeva and winstead jumped after 63% to encampment, and it's been like since forever on ptr

[solid sable]

Increased equipment drops rates for level 1-19 elite enemy NPCs. This is greater for enemies with a higher star ranking
Increased equipment drops rates for level 1-10 enemy NPCs, but reduced the quality of the items they drop

thank you so much

[keen scarab]

anyone lost power after this patch?

[karmic thunder]

YEP

[nova heath]

people got nerfed? haha

[jagged kite]

missing 20pp

[versed marsh]

A bunch of weapons/armor were changed in some way in the patch

[karmic thunder]

@pallid elk have u guys changed the dmg output this patch as hitting like a wet noodle now?

[pallid elk]

I have not been informed of any change to player power in this update

[versed marsh]

Power Coeff changed, don't ban me

[minor owl]

ye, something defo changed

nvm, mobs are higher level

[stable narwhal]

same here, def some power drop (you can see it in the stat sheet)

[nova heath]

reminds me of p2.5 where i got robbed of pp

crit* lost like 5-7% outta nowhere

[karmic thunder]

our dmg is bk

[versed marsh]

Looks like the MPow -> HealPow has also been nerfed slightly

[minor owl]

true, my hot heals 2 hp less

[stable narwhal]

your team might be gaslighting you, be careful out there

[pallid elk]

I've been gaslit before 🫠

That being said, still flagging this for the team to review.

EDIT: This was an intentional change, and updated the update notes #alpha-two-news message

[grave scarab]

lags?

[brazen gulch]

Windstead area down?

[misty barn]

Lionhold down

[blissful coral]

Sephilion down

[vast drum]

Having major rubberbanding lag in Halcyon SW: 30

[clear anvil]

Steel Bloom down

[misty barn]

DDOS underway

[red harness]

lots of sudden lags?:S

[keen scarab]

apparently they are getting ddossed

[gaunt fulcrum]

HoJ down

[haughty comet]

can't get back in

[bitter mason]

im just stuck on looking for server

[haughty comet]

sw 37 does not permit mining

or any other gatherable

dangit a field of daffodils

[eternal fulcrum]

I pray they return ur pp

[thick sedge]

CARTEL RECRUITING BTW

[hardy gyro]

you have a wide selection of 5 people on eu server

[thick sedge]

true, feels like we're on a private server here

[golden jetty]

true and real

[thick sedge]

this is what happens in EU

[keen scarab]

everybody is afk

[hardy gyro]

day 3 and its looking like a siege log angle

[royal bane]

eu doesnt have enough people for a siege

[golden jetty]

Why would Intrepid listen to these bobs plea for a separate EU server...

[thorn pine]

ping... they cant catch the fish in time

[versed marsh]

anyone else just getting constantly booted to character select

[hardy gyro]

Even NA is very light on pop

[royal bane]

its almost like a megaserver wouldve been the move

[keen scarab]

almo0st like we shouldnt listen to bob guilds

[crisp walrus]

no gathering possible? no interaction with gatherables possible

[quartz heron]

have you picked up your gathering tools?

[nova heath]

Why are u not on NA

[keen scarab]

cause i cant play at 6 am

[slim osprey]

can you find ash and oak trees in anvils or do u need to travel to riverlands?

[nova heath]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-weak-wimp-weak-sauce-weak-cant-handle-it-gif-13750035

[pale inlet]

Une Guilde FR recrute ?

[outer creek]

wtf I have never seen that many people at one spot outside of lionhold???

[karmic thunder]

@crude saddle

[olive pebble]

Everyone saying EU is dead and people keep crashing in lionhold due to how many people in the SW.

There’s probably just less nolifers that grind 23 hours a day to reach lvl 25 and do nothing right afterwards, imho

People in EU are just chillin 🍹

[versed marsh]

They get to skip the entire crafting loop now post drop rate increase as steelbloom/carphin are shitting out drops now

So it worked out well for them

[tepid willow]

Yeah the change is horrible. Were back to gear grinding again and crafting only legos

[nova heath]

Because crafting and running around with lvl 0 gear was so good

[spiral stag]

But itsJD is not wrong tho

they fcked up lv20 drops now xD

[mossy bramble]

the simple fix was adding in apprentice benches

not fucking over all artisanship

[versed marsh]

Never said it was

But the first step to solving that problem is actually fix the ilvl 9 recipes and make them available on the biome artisan benches

that equips 80% of the server appropriately for the state of it's progression

[nova heath]

There needs alot more to be done

[versed marsh]

oh no doubt

but unlike just straight up 3x-ing the drop rate it doesn't kill an entire gameplay loop

ironically a gameplay loop that had a significant influence on the phase 3 delay in the first place

[nova heath]

Its better like this now

P4 will be good til then i wont worry

[versed marsh]

its ok wipe inc next week

[nova heath]

Early 2026

[versed marsh]

I just saw a little pic from Steelbloom of you and Cartel pulling packs of 11 mobs comfortably enough, must be swimming in drops

I can only imagine how many drops people are going to be getting at the 10-19 POIs when they go Lawless for the drop increase

[hardy gyro]

NA out here

[versed marsh]

[spiral stag]

like a lot xD

[versed marsh]

Well, economy was overrated

See you next fresh

[hardy gyro]

we go fresh phase 4

surely econ update out by then

[tacit gyro]

at what point does steven just write off the dev team and hire another 200 to try again

[hardy gyro]

Soon ™

[north bolt]

hio Just wanna hear if anvils crafting recipes are fixed yet?

[agile thunder]

Where to craft wilderness recipes? Does anybody know?

[small wolf]

nope, have you tried nodes? now that there is stations or is still does not work?

[agile thunder]

In nodes like winstead, its not possible

[agile thunder]

Does not show up the option to craft the wilderness recipes

[small wolf]

yeah, people have said that a lot, but no idea

[agile thunder]

Are there maybe crafting stations in the lawless zones? Any Island with crafting benches?

[small wolf]

or maybe just upgrade node in general

[vivid torrent]

They are confirmed bugged

Will be fixed in upcoming patch.. hopefully very soon!

[small wolf]

soon (tm)

[versed marsh]

They will be fixed when everyone has looted full JM from Steelbloom

[olive field]

Do we have server restart in the morning ?

it seems that some mobs are not flushed/refreshed for days now...

[versed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-getdown-disney-ariel-pooh-gif-13119905

[pastel sluice]

In Desert constantly dc all the time

[frigid loom]

I have 2 legendary coal for sale if anyone is interested 👍 pm me ty

[barren garden]

Anyone knows where to find the/a lumbermill in Anvil?

[tepid willow]

West of the starter zone

Bonfire camp something its called if im correct

[barren garden]

I see, thx

[pure knot]

anyone else getting spam kicked to character login screen?

[versed marsh]

Had it happen a ton last night in the desert

[brazen copper]

maybe the specific server worker you are on is down

[pure knot]

yea this was in the desert too

walking through this pass it was awful, but ever since leaving the area i've been fine

[agile thunder]

Thank you man

[tepid willow]

Yeah always when entering and leaving the miraleth serverworker

[barren garden]

Any suggestions where I should look for tendonite ore? I could find only granite, basalt, copper and rough ruby in anvil.

[vivid torrent]

It’s from granite (secondary drop) sp just keep mining

[barren garden]

Oh thanks

[blissful coral]

rip

[stable narwhal]

F

[keen scarab]

sephillion is closed

[unborn ravine]

what are lawless trophies/packages used for?

[versed marsh]

https://ashescodex.com/db/item/Consumable_Guild_LawlessTrophy

those

[keen scarab]

yo @mossy bramble

[mossy bramble]

sup

[keen scarab]

i heard one of u guys looted my boys on steelbloom yday

[mossy bramble]

yeah I spoke to my member, he knows he messed up

your group wiped us after so hopefully water under the bridge

[keen scarab]

idk they were pretty annoyed

kinda rat behaviour

[mossy bramble]

for what its worth I did apologise for Dracoth

[mossy bramble]

Yeah I fully agree

[keen scarab]

dracoth is in polar

[mossy bramble]

dramox

fuck xD

[keen scarab]

[versed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgeball-gif-21287745

[wraith moss]

just saw someone in armor cosmetics, where do i get that? i got my mount but not armor

[mossy bramble]

They had every right to be, he wasn't in our group so we were so confused when we got wiped xD

[keen scarab]

idk lol i joined discord and there were people asking how much is a war scroll to declare on fools garden, i was like wtf

[mossy bramble]

reasonable reaction tbh, would've been some content

[outer creek]

lmao

tbh i just got too excited finally

on EU

but yea just for content

Have barely farmed any content on this dead region...

[mossy bramble]

at least they didn't push an update to make it more boring 🫠 🙃

Harbinger sounds fun tho

[outer creek]

Honestly I wish I clipped it, I was looking at the rogue in stealth on top of the roof just staring at our ash piles waiting to see if it was clear for him to go for it🤣

Never seen such ratty behavior on rogue since the class came out. Reminded me of rogues ninja looting in wow

[outer creek]

Id die and force people to flag when looting me so I can kill them any time of the week

Only way to get people flagged on EU besides tropics

[rose zodiac]

Is the downtime in 2h or in 3 minutes?

In game it said 3 minutes

[visual badge]

yeah im confused, it says down at 7pm but i cant log back in becuase theyre down xd

the news says 5pm now

time to do something else for an hour

[versed marsh]

You may not like it, but this is what peak EU gameplay looks like

[paper hawk]

its the same time every day

[mossy bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-gif-7931397507241457912

[hasty moon]

looks same like the random groups i always playing with

[frigid quarry]

If you run into a fool in the morning, you ran into a fool. If you run into fools all day, you're the fool.

[versed marsh]

Jayco is forcing us all to level to GM Fishing before November else we get gkicked

[mossy bramble]

No exceptions

[wary tiger]

I have seen little to the increased drop rate of gear in the wild, I had one ring drop yesterday

[regal prawn]

guys is it possible to get lvl10 gear anywhere, we're so fucking homeless its unplayable
legit 0 damage at lvl10 😭

chat help plz

give advice

[young oasis]

guys, could you recommend some quests to help lvl up?.. I did only Hollowing Oak so far(

[robust kestrel]

Farm 1 star mobs, their drop rate was increased

Other way is to craft gear

[regal prawn]

which 1 stars?
Highway men hills?
goblins?

Regarding crafting are we even able to make lvl10 gear without the appropriate workshops in the nodes?

[regal prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wuQeEwYaQg&pp=ygUmYXNoZXMgb2YgY3JlYXRpb24gc2FmZSBmYXN0IHN1cmUgcXVlc3Q%3D

Do this, it will give you 3 pieces of green starter gear

[young oasis]

Thanks, I did it too at the start!)

[regal prawn]

also does it matter what level difference our party is for drops? (ik 1 year ago it mattered)

[robust kestrel]

From what I understood all 1 star mobs got increased drop rate, I only tested it on minotaurs and got some drops

You cant craft lvl 10+ gear, but you can craft better tier of starter gear, Mistwood weapons for example with rare+ rarity are cca 450 dmg

[regal prawn]

ty leti, appreciate u. I'll try out a minotaur spot I have in mind

[raw zephyr]

Where Mistwood weapons recipe drops?

[crimson salmon]

you can update

[harsh imp]

ty for the update Sky 🙂

i finally found the woodshop foreman after 20 years of searching and then realized i had to look at the diamonds to see where they were lol

[wraith moss]

never knew this, anything similar in the anvils?

[versed marsh]

nope

ah shit guys thats where we went wrong, thats how we unlock the settlement

[calm field]

whenever you ask if anvils got something, always say a loud no in your head right away

[distant hill]

Wrong there is a quest chain that award gear pieces

[versed marsh]

[shrewd wren]

Does Winstead still need hunting crates?

[versed marsh]

I would assume so

[frigid quarry]

What's the best way to get the full lore of AOC, im super new and the story context at start is a little mind boggling.

[glossy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-butcher-gif-9581937692910259251

[brazen copper]

by reading the wiki.
we barely have any structured PvE content in game right now so you won't get much from in-game

there are also some YT videos that summarize the wiki

[frigid quarry]

Super, thanks, ill take a look 🙂

[short zealot]

wtt with Shortbow if anyone want

[tepid willow]

Lol, they just replaced the word node for settlement in the whole game 🤣

Like the replace option in Word 🙃

[wraith moss]

just got a spear recipe learned it and its not in the weaponsmith?

[cold imp]

I was wondering. Are these Rations 5 Star Menüs now for their price going from 12 copper to 81 copper?

[kind kiln]

does anyone actually group with randoms in this game, been standing outside this mine for ages asking for invites to groups and just keep getting ignored

[cold imp]

I imagin peoples priorities are not so much Leveling at the moment rather more getting the first towns up and running

[kind kiln]

its like a level 6 or 7 area, not sure what people are doing if not levelling there

[mossy bramble]

where abouts are you?

[kind kiln]

veinbreaker mine or whatever its called

walked in before and got absolutely batted by some machine

[mossy bramble]

Unfortuantely not many people started in the anvils, pug parties are pretty common down here.

[cold imp]

Started in Anvils. Got killed 4 times on my way down to Riverlands. Gave up, deleted character and created a new one in the riverlands

[kind kiln]

i have decided to not even bother trying to get there and just made a new character

[covert crystal]

where are the intl. EU guilds, with easy but fun play style?

[glacial escarp]

#eu-guild-recruitment

[covert crystal]

thanka but it says "no access!

can I get access?

[glacial escarp]

i sure cant give u it, its the eu guild recruitment posts

[covert crystal]

@ebon shore sorry for pinging, I saw you are the community manager. can I get access to the en fuild recruitment posts?

[worn torrent]

does anyone know if the unstuck button still deletes the character ?

[glacial escarp]

#read-me-first

found it for u.

[royal star]

what is the best way to get droppings? I cant find any where can i drop them? Drop rate seams to be 0.

[covert crystal]

well thanks. my account was connected. so I try to disconnect and reconnect

still no access

ok works now. needed a few minutes, I guess, thanks @glacial escarp

[wraith moss]

I am a easy guild leader if you take me out for a drink first 😉

[glacial escarp]

One day , we will see your guild actually playing the game

[wraith moss]

we're just in the scam spawn that was anvils

[glacial escarp]

was there, migrated recently

wouldve been 25 if we didnt get baited 🙁

[wraith moss]

nah not for the rush this phase

[glacial escarp]

wasnt even rushing

just brainless

[wraith moss]

also we're chilling this phase at the start, had a bit of unfortunate news for a few of our members so, the cant play currently

[pure knot]

anyone else having issues with distant relatives where after interacting with teh first brazier the first chest isnt lootable?

[wraith moss]

where is the guild npc in the anvils?

[nova heath]

where the fuck is all the loot i was promised

i didnt saw jackshit

[regal prawn]

Lmao i am actually malding a lil bit

The loot increase was not a real thing

Or it went from 0% chance to 0.000000001%

[nova heath]

i think we got total 2 or 3 items today

[regal prawn]

I have a pretty solid mental but i might turn off the game until it releases

I was looking forward to catching up from p2

But holy fk

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991509808781991936/1069406317770444810/attachment.gif

[nova heath]

i could tell you its gonna be bad but damn the loot drop changes baited me hard

wasnt even gonna play

[timid geyser]

just me eu very buggy right no

[royal star]

got kicked and cant login now xD

i guess the server takes a break 😄

[steep shuttle]

server dead

[royal star]

F

time for sleep 😄 good night ^^

[short raft]

Active DDoS
#alpha-two-general message

[obsidian citrus]

Do we have any idea on which town will have apprentice herbalism?

[loud mauve]

Hello. Is it possible to find hunting grems somewhere near the anvils starting zone?

[sour lava]

Can't wait to see my EU friends in NA in a few days time.

[wraith moss]

Where abouts do you farm for the broodling mount in anvils see a hand full now

[teal whale]

Is it posible to craft Adept gear yet? if so in what node?

[mossy bramble]

Nope, we have to wait for a village to pop up

[distant hill]

Even with a settlement adept is jm no ?

[mossy bramble]

Radiant is jm

[lavish flume]

btw wilderness gear where ? 😄

Leatherworking

[keen scarab]

Can people build nodes instead of afk fishing

[marble badge]

Too much hunting crates needed

[keen scarab]

Smh pve players are so soft

[raw zephyr]

where can i mine rough roughrime

[shrewd umbra]

fishing gives node xp ! :D

[keen scarab]

Not enough

Chop chop

[shrewd umbra]

They're doing their best

[split perch]

anyone seen adept phys power weapons drop anywhere? I've had several drops, but they are always magic

[versed marsh]

I dont know where the orphanage public works disappeared to, completing those should reward 5mil node xp

What % are joeva/winstead at atm?

[bleak badge]

How's the server progress? Logged off on Thursday with Joeva and Winstead at level 2

[marble badge]

It was almost done within first 24hrs of turning level 2.

[versed marsh]

Did it actually get done?

Because theres nothing there visually

[mossy bramble]

chopping wood gives the same xp 🙃

[marble badge]

Wasn't done last night when I checked

[keen scarab]

@fervent charm u guys coming back?

[silk nova]

what to do in the varnoks private vault quest? the step after collecting the anvil and the journal?

[fervent charm]

Nah, we're too low level

[keen scarab]

zzzzz

[dark mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/anyone-here-tumbleweed-john-travolta-pulp-fiction-where-are-you-gif-22041899

[calm field]

[Anvils] [Looking for help] crafted a small create to move my stuff, but cant equip it, any tip how to use it?

[eternal glen]

sad my dude

[rose zodiac]

Guys it's evening, where is my downtime announcement 😄

[versed marsh]

you have to pack it first

[wispy island]

here we go again

[calm field]

How to use these? If I seal it, it remains empty... cant equip it either

Please someone must know how these works from PTR. I can't find an answer for hours now

[versed marsh]

you have to fill it with materials at the cargo storage

like wood, metal etc

stuff you gather

then seal it

[calm field]

what is cargo storage? i can unpack it at storage Clerk in Bonfire, but doesnt matter what I put into it, once I seal it its empty, all the mats goes back to inventory....

[versed marsh]

what do you mean once you seal it the mats go back into the inventory?

that sounds like a bug

[calm field]

steps:

1. unpack, opens pack:

2. filled it

3. seal it

result:

[sly idol]

dont you need to put hemlock in it?

[calm field]

(stuffs back in my storage, crate is empty

[calm field]

same behavior with hemlock wood as well

[versed marsh]

you can put any material in the crate

provided it fits

[acoustic hemlock]

I’m running back to the anvils with a crate to get all my legendary mats and bring them south after update, I’ll let you know if I run into the same problem

Not used one yet

[sturdy phoenix]

There’s a real shortage of hunter supplies construction crates, I assume that’s not just miraleth

[acoustic hemlock]

There’s a real shortage of hunter full stop 🤣

[brittle depot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-panic-gif-8720514262649309419

[somber swan]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-dean-miller-spinning-in-chair-bored-boredom-gif-24507595

[somber swan]

peak EU primetime gameplay

(even on weekend)

[craggy mica]

I get maybe 2 hours of "im a grown ass 41 year old dad who just needs some me-time" ... come on!

[somber swan]

I'm curious if these maintenance everyday are making people to quit the testing

[shy cairn]

It's silly timing, prime EU time.

[craggy mica]

I can only speak to myself, and it doesnt make me quit testing.

But its annoying

[somber swan]

me neither, but I'm in the hardcore spectrum of playing a lot of hours

[glass belfry]

disown your children, or better, turn them into your personal Ashes "botting" farm.

Hard problems necessitate creative solutions

[haughty comet]

i mean its fine, i'm just not going to be able to do bug reporting outside of weekends

[wraith moss]

I know alot who logged it day 1 played for 1hr and quit testing after they saw the state of the anvils

and then also a few quit due to updates

[alpine sky]

why would server d/t make people quit? go out touch grass, do a shop run, make food, be a human for a few hours 😛

[worthy mason]

have a sleep lol

I just have

[sturdy phoenix]

a lot of these complaints only really make sense if youre expecting to be playing a game 😛 not testing an alpha

[alpine sky]

or sit on discord staring at a screen like all us idiots 😛

[sturdy phoenix]

and for a lot of phase 2 we had daily patches at 5pm gmt so.. i doubt its gonna stop anytime soon

[bronze maple]

perfect time to take a shower, just a remidner

[wraith moss]

because for example, on the 27th, people got off work at 5pm in the uk and then they decided to have a 4hr update from 18:00 to 22:00

and then every day after that its been either 1-2hrs

[somber swan]

EU can't test too much

[wraith moss]

thats why more of a spot tester, every few months or 2 now.

[alpine sky]

its not everyday for extended hours, its an hour (not today obvs) but its not the end of the world

[somber swan]

everyday at same time

[wraith moss]

pretty sure there has been one update every day since phase 3 launch or feels like it

[lone aurora]

its the prime time for the people who works

[alpine sky]

sorry edited.. i mean its not everyday its extended d/t just an hour

[somber swan]

still annoying

[sturdy phoenix]

they dont have a worldwide ops team for an unreleased game. Theyre gonna be doing things on a west coast US schedule which so happens to suck for EU

[lone aurora]

but nothing we can do

its all good

[alpine sky]

takes me half hour to drive home from work then shower food to get sorted.. are these people finishing at 5 then like immediately logging in? 😄

[placid goblet]

Server When?

[wraith moss]

I know there is nothing we can do, but i've seen people ask for a server merge, because server is 'dead' it feels dead because everything is in prime time so people can only play on weekends or available

[somber swan]

I'm not telling they shouldn't do it or that it's not what it is (maybe scept of the weekend ones as it's also not work time for them). But I'm worry about if it is hitting the EU population in long term

[sturdy phoenix]

put it this way 🙂 if you dont want an EU server then... we can complain about the times

[versed marsh]

same people every day moaning

[somber swan]

It's not EU server or not, it's EU population, even in a megaserver the worry will be the same

[lone aurora]

i dont know abt u but my sunday is ruined 😛

[wraith moss]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-good-gewd-star-wars-episode-3-gif-15386400457909814305

[somber swan]

I was watching football and now tennis it about to start

at least there is something to see on sunday

[brittle depot]

I appreciate they are working this hard. BUT MAYBE TAKE A BREAK AT THE WEEKENDS DEVS!

Give us a weekend to play in peace

[warm quarry]

I just bought the game today, the moment I tried login in, maintenance hit... 🙂

[wraith moss]

https://tenor.com/view/none-gif-27639232

[wispy island]

rip

[scenic copper]

https://tenor.com/view/gravewalker-nuncamorto-coringando-dafoe-willem-dafoe-gif-18185510239881759990

[craggy mica]

Lets face it, we bough the ability to help test a game, they have been very transparent with that 🙂

[somber swan]

if you just bought it, take with calm the first time lvling to 25 it's a nice travel and great experience I really enjoyed it at P2

[glass belfry]

welcome to the EU Ashes experience.

[craggy mica]

@somber swan Since you are a veteran, how should i treat crafting? Should i aim for something that benefits me? Or do them all?

[flat flax]

Primetime to test the servers ... devs say no

[somber swan]

I wouldn't consider me a veteran as I skiped P2.5. Also crafting have change a lot since P2. But from your question I assume you mean proffesions in general.

If so take in mind that unless you are in a group or have multiple alts you have so little professions you can specialize into. The most easiest one for solo will always be the ones in the gathering side or maybe the combination of huting+animal husbandry, alchemy and their related or cooking and their related as they make a final product on processing tier.

But I'm not the best to answer your question I would say anyone knows about lifeskill more than me

Also ashes codex have a tool for planning this

[craggy mica]

Ok, but like. You could achieve high levels in all of them, correct ?

On one char

[maiden mulch]

You can't do them all, I'm not sure how much you know about the professions system but you can have:
Two lvl 40 (Grandmaster)
One lvl 30 (Master)
One lvl 20 (Journeyman)
One lvl 10 (Apprentice)

max lvls on one char

[craggy mica]

Oh ok, ty. And this is something you choose later down the line?

Cause now im like gathering shit all over

[maiden mulch]

You can co whatever one you want from the start of the game

The crafting right now is pretty bad unfortunately, gear drops are way too common compared to crafting, and the crafting stations are gated by node levels. Most people are at least lvl 10 by now and you can't craft lvl 10 gear but you can drop it, doesn't make any sense

[craggy mica]

Ok ok, i see.

[light jasper]

Who are all these people getting magical gear drops?? Nothing has dropped me except recipes since Tuesday... 😑😅😅

[maiden mulch]

Also a lot of the crafting recipies are just straight broken (you can't learn them) or there's no where to find the material in game. Best way now to even craft is to grind and then get recipes that drop and hope it's good ones

[scenic copper]

same had a ring drop in 2 days 😂 had to craft everything else

[craggy mica]

This system will probably change bigtime during the months ahead. But its nice to get a feel for where it started

[maiden mulch]

when I say gear I mean recipes mainly, but gear does also drop. 3 star mobs have the highest chance then 2 star and 1 star, so it does matter where you're farming

[light jasper]

Essentially they said on the Livestream on Friday that they update at 10am their time, which unfortunately happens to be prime time in Europe.

It was confirmed on the Livestream it wouldn't change, Maggie was pretty adamant about it also... 😬

But yeah, they could at least just let the servers run free on the weekends right?

[maiden mulch]

yea for sure but it sucks they've made these changes when it's really a simple fix. Lock all gear crafted and dropped to the max node lvl

[nimble light]

any tips on what to do when server is down

[maiden mulch]

Also the gathering also has a big bug right now where you can literally just 'see' where the rare+ mats are and not waste time with common/uncommon mats. Literally like playing with hacks on

[light jasper]

It does seem like a massive knee-jerk adjustment to the gearing system with how they've done it. It was much better Phase 2-2.5 ish I believe.

[maiden mulch]

in regards to what specifically? You can look on https://ashescodex.com/ or the official wiki for in game stuff if that's what you meant

[nimble light]

how do one get Oak wood beeing in the the anvils

[somber swan]

I'm watching tennis

[maiden mulch]

That's another thing, anvils is not really functional right now, I haven't been there so I can't say if Oak is even there to be honest. To make some basic earrings you need mats only found in anvils and not many people went there because it's not as functional as the rest of the map

Ofc I know it's the first time they've launched it but still there are some things that could have easily been rectified before launch or even now and wouldn't take long

[vapid hill]

you just dont want to walk there

[wraith moss]

Biggest thing is actually make the anvil dropped recipes be aloud to be crafted in the anvils instead of the wilderness which doesnt work anywhere

[maiden mulch]

Very true lmaoooooo, going from joeva to lionhold/winstead is enough for me with low lvl mounts xD. Imagine going from winstead to anvils to get a material only found in the anvils for all your money to find out the recipe is broken

[glass belfry]

you submit a feedback post and ask Intrepid to finish off that aspect

[maiden mulch]

yea the wilderness thing makes no sense, like that could easily be changed in any maintence and things would just work

20 mins till server is up

[wraith moss]

Yeah, looking at the other recipes it's literally just a location flag on the recipe itself so should be a simple fix, or I'd hope their system is in a state to make that a simple fix and have the code streamlined enough to just change recipe location tags

[brittle depot]

There's a number of sets of basic earrings. Not sure what you mean. I made mine nowhere near Anvils

[maiden mulch]

Regardless of the little things though the game is pretty okay, but I will say it is annoying they don't fix those and instead continue to release more 'new content'

[keen scarab]

Yo guys could we get a lvl 3 node before the end of the phase?

Stop slacking

[brittle depot]

EU is there already

🤓

[nimble light]

are there "grem" mobs in the anvils area - for leather crafts

[maiden mulch]

I don't remember the exact recipe, maybe it's not earrings, but there are recipes like that where it just doesn't work

[somber swan]

I wouldn't be so harsh considering we have less population and the maintenance are always in our primetime

[keen scarab]

I Will be very harsh

[wraith moss]

'Phase 3 is expected to last at least one year'

i think we have time

[maiden mulch]

Honestly it's gonna be longer than a year

[keen scarab]

[wraith moss]

game definitely needs minimum of 5+ years imo

[craggy mica]

(Patch downloading now btw)

[maiden mulch]

nice

[nimble light]

is there is ?

[craggy mica]

Yeah

[maiden mulch]

yea login, you can update but not play till the servers are up in 15 mins

[rigid quarry]

i wonder who will get banned

[vocal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-that-man-is-me-gif-9964721

[maiden mulch]

People that got 'banned' in p2 for exploiting still playing, just hwid ban so if they buy another account they're fkked

[visual badge]

https://tenor.com/view/bongocat-banhammer-ban-hammer-bongo-gif-18219363

[maiden mulch]

cringe asf exploiting in an alpha test lmao

[vivid torrent]

I think the tag is correct, but they haven’t gone through the stations that wilderness is legit, it would make sense to have wilderness in the tag as that should work all over the world, but seems they have overthought it 😂

[wraith moss]

true which ever the way round it is, either the bench or the recipe, either way something like that should just be a param change

[maiden mulch]

yup, pretty much

and it still won't be done in this extended downtime update

[vivid torrent]

Yes, it would, and it’s strange they have taken this long to fix it… they said before phase 3 that they was gonna fix stuff directly… but fixing the broken crafting wasn’t on the table I guess 😂

[versed marsh]

You know the server is up right?

[maiden mulch]

Yea ik it just came up, but the downtime was extended longer than the usual 1 hr to fix a critical bug.

[wraith moss]

ngl is this it

• Update Notes
  Fixed a crash impacting server workers seeing a lot of combat
  Fixed several bugs that could cause crates or their contents to disappear or duplicate

[vivid torrent]

That was a skinny update and didn’t include the broken recipes. Is it one person working on the whole damn crafting reset??

[wraith moss]

like come on, we've been reporting it from like the first hr in game i swear

[mossy bramble]

there are bugs still from pre-alpha, some get pushed down

[keen scarab]

my char got reset 🙁

[wraith moss]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-yoink-gif-26015429

[scenic copper]

https://tenor.com/view/zhut-zhut-gif-25034578

[sharp hemlock]

Noooooooo

[upper geyser]

[DESERT - SUNHAVEN] LFM TANK 7/8 [phase 2 xp team]

[ionic bramble]

actually though?

[keen scarab]

nah

[vapid hill]

how i stop this stutters ?

[jagged kite]

ITS ALMOST LIKE

I SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN

[hoary wing]

can u craft apprentice pickaxe anywhere yet ?

[worn zinc]

⚔️ Adventurers, you’ve got ~30 minutes before the realms take a nap for updates. Finish your quests, hug your mounts, and maybe don’t start a pocket dungeon right now. 😉

🔔 ~15 minutes until downtime. Perfect time to /dance.

⏰ ~5 minutes left! Log off safely, or risk your epic cliff-jump freeze-frame being immortalized at logout.

[grizzled acorn]

Once again, servers down during EU peak 😔

[graceful gate]

7am isnt peak

[shadow arrow]

ok mr employed

[unborn barn]

Heyoo does the crate system actually work? Like when for example we finish tables does it construct the crafting tables at our node?

[zealous pebble]

It works. Maybe some bugs around it, but at least "happy case" works

[unborn barn]

Alright thx

[worn zinc]

They need a little more time to finish their testing! Thanks for your patience everyone!

[simple gull]

Up early, got my things done, time to grind... ugh, but there's the whole EU prime time thing 🌚

[pseudo mason]

10 AM is sure not prime time

[queen monolith]

it is for demons

[glass belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/exorcism-father-mulvehill-evil-z-is-for-zombies-get-out-evil-spirit-gif-1876611732727534847

[simple gull]

https://tenor.com/view/anti's-black-cat-gif-14658651691840106587

[graceful gate]

it was up early 😄

[crimson salmon]

You can update

[graceful gate]

no realms available

-_____-

[crimson salmon]

sure but can update 😉

[graceful gate]

wewt

[crimson salmon]

i am loging in now

[hazy epoch]

https://suno.com/song/f72db6f4-1111-4e4d-9a5b-ea1b56bb5ce6 patchnotes if you dont like to read

[red harness]

why roll back?

why not bann cheaters?:S

[graceful gate]

because the cheaters were everyone doing normal gathering

[glacial escarp]

because they fucked up

and anyone touching any gatherable would get banned by ur logic

[red harness]

There are exploiters and big exploiters..

[sharp hemlock]

First wipe of p3?

[wary tiger]

12h downtime, ouch!

[glacial escarp]

but theres also idiots , i fail to see what it has to do with the situation

devs broke something in the patch -> roll back to fix -> problem solved

how does it have to do anything with exploits

[red harness]

because there are those that pick shit up, and trade, pick shit up trade, over and over to their guild etc..

[crimson salmon]

judge the few not all plz

[rose zodiac]

Just be thankful it's only a rollback to this morning 😄

[mossy bramble]

What you expect people to do not play the game?

It’s 12 hours ffs go touch grass lol

[glacial escarp]

clearly , you were used as a tennis racket as a child and the consequences of that are showing
i wish you a speedy recovery

[sharp hemlock]

But why a tennis racket

[glacial escarp]

i plead the 5th

or is it invoke the 5th?

idfk, not american

[mossy bramble]

I’m glad someone has taken up the creative insults mantle with Miruku away

[glacial escarp]

the only 2 i got is that one , and asking people for thier adress so i can order them camping rope off amazon

[wary tiger]

i have neglected my other games these few days, i wonder if they miss me

[glacial escarp]

also on a diffrent note @mossy bramble leave my frenchman alone ok?

i enslaved him first, hes mine

[formal bough]

joined back 4 days late to the party, looking for a guild to join

[zealous pebble]

TIME FOR CHAT-PVP!!!

[mossy bramble]

Wdym first I’ve been annoying him since p1

[glacial escarp]

he didnt have shackles on when i met him

[mossy bramble]

Plus he’s fulfilled his quota for now, I’m giving him a week off

[glacial escarp]

QUOTA

HA

[mossy bramble]

We like our recruitment officers to be free ranged

[glacial escarp]

clearly u dont know how to keep a slave

[mossy bramble]

You assume I want a Frenchman as a slave

[glacial escarp]

what else would u wanna keep them around for?

cheese , wine, whine , and manual labor

[mossy bramble]

Point and laugh?

[glacial escarp]

u can do that

while hes picking up rocks

or xp debt, depends on what we are doing

hes roleplaying a melee mage recently its quite amusing

i need to make a "eskill death compliation" from our leveling

[mossy bramble]

Is that why he was so fucking close to the pull yesterday

Goddamn it

[glacial escarp]

he also has a taunt as a mage

[mossy bramble]

That’s the racial perk from being French

Okay I’m gonna stop ripping Eskill now

[zealous pebble]

No taunt needed in that case.
French have complete aggro override, 100% uptime.

[glacial escarp]

@distant hill u are playing tank next wipe

[viscid scroll]

Is eu full dead yet

[formal bough]

so they did nothing about speedhackers, botter and whatever

[rose zodiac]

Depends, is it dead to only have a handful of max levels after 1 weekend? Leveling spots are crowded as hell, but I see some max levels complaining that they are bored 😄

[viscid scroll]

U got a vod or something I can see with them packed

[rose zodiac]

I don't record, but generally there are so many groups at every popular high exp/hour spot that the leveling efficiency is quite fucked most of the time

[still vine]

You don't ban the seller; you tag them.
Once you tagged them, you flag every buyer.
Then you ban all buyers.

[glacial escarp]

if u are talking hardcore pvp , eu is mega dead

[weak imp]

no ms wong?

[formal bough]

haha ms wong will also come for surer

[rose zodiac]

On Saturday I spent a few hours at desert minotaurs and we were competing with 2 other groups most of the time

[glacial escarp]

outside of 1 guild (cartel) i think everyone collectively is taking it extremely easy due to there being really nothing to do
so chilling

[rose zodiac]

HH is completely full constantly, literally every corner is taken

Sunday we went to Anvils to check some less crowded spots, all POIs had several groups in them

[viscid scroll]

Not hardcore just people running around grinding crafting etc

[formal bough]

@still vine this is not the solution since nowdays all mmorpgs are so fast paced that players stay for 1 month more or likely before the decline hits very fast so waiting for a long time to catch them all makes no sense in this fast paced gaming this was more of a lonterm thing but as you see in every ashes phase they arent longterm

[glacial escarp]

depends on the place then
there are people
but its very like meh ?

[woeful bolt]

Yep, speedrunning the game is just gonna make you quit faster. It's really not in the state to be taken any serious

[plucky bramble]

How many 25s does Cartel have

[glacial escarp]

steelbloom had like 12-20 groups grinding yesterday evening but its steelbloom

[viscid scroll]

So basically dead for being 3-4 days into wipe

[glacial escarp]

ask cartel, i aint them

[woeful bolt]

EU is insane dead, go on NA for action

[glass belfry]

I would, but the NA server has too many Americans

[knotty latch]

So what was the reason for the rollback, what did the change to the rarity actually do?

[soft hornet]

Now I have no content from Const on twitch whilst I work. thanks intrepid!

[still vine]

basically you had equal chance on every rarity

[olive field]

a rain of legendary fishes and carcasses

[viscid scroll]

I mean eu server is in America so unless u really just wanna play with pirates people and Europeans kinda mute point

Also isn’t pirates people like half the server lol

[mossy bramble]

I havnt seen a single Actual Pirates player over the last 4 days

[zealous pebble]

I have seen one

Khronos

[viscid scroll]

Lmfao that’s crazy Steven made pirate software basically a private server just for him to abandon it immediately

[glass belfry]

I did! Endangered species, just like polar bears

[bleak badge]

I saw Maldavius himself on the first day but never seen anyone with a guild tag

[rose zodiac]

I saw Pirate himself picking flowers

But haven't seen any of them in any exp spots 😄

[mossy bramble]

I saw Thor day 1 solo rangering and never since, hasn’t streamed it at least

[zealous pebble]

They are not in the guild so they can level and gear up in peace.

[mossy bramble]

RIP guild buffs then

[tight vessel]

I think around 16.

We only have like 20 active people atm. Some of our dudes are on the NA server. We're taking this phase very chilled.

[plucky bramble]

So not the only ones who invest a lot of time

[tight vessel]

I'd say if you want some real pvp, the NA server is probably the place.

[bleak badge]

any estimates on when we will get a level 3 settlement?

[versed marsh]

I’ve seen plenty you wouldn’t have in Steelbloom tho

[weak turtle]

Does Polar have any serious competition? Your Cartel Boys joined them i guess

[zealous pebble]

"pvp" on EU server seems to be about overpowered people attacking ungeared/unleveled players sadly...

[rose zodiac]

Likely this week, but I guess it depends on how many days we get long downtime during prime time

[bleak badge]

I've seen Havoc slapping people around on lower level grindspots with numbers

[zealous pebble]

Think I did not see a single somewhat balanced pvp fight and I roam around a bunch

[bleak badge]

our party got bullied out of one when they bought a lv 23 tank there to slap us around (both parties were around lv 12-13) 😄

[rose zodiac]

We had a few fights in the desert with similar levels with some Holiday group, but that's about it

[glass belfry]

par for the course, shrug your shoulders, level up, gear up and smile, you might just found some future sparring mates

[rose zodiac]

Also got killed by some bored level 25 Cartel guys in HH 😄

[tight vessel]

From chatting to the dudes the honest answer is "probably not". I've heard via the grape vine that there might be a PTR tourney stirring with some help from the devs. If that's the case I would try and bring back my old team.

[mossy bramble]

Wednesday probs with this delay

[zealous pebble]

I actually hoped that Pirates would be a huge group on server

And then have all the other guilds who are usually on warfoot fight them together all over the map

[rose zodiac]

Didn't Pirates lose like 90% of their members after the streamer drama?

[keen scarab]

cartel is taking it giga easy wym

[mossy bramble]

Might be, I think everyone’s taking this phase very chill

[weak turtle]

But they dont know how to PvP you can fight them with a steering wheel🤣

[timid geyser]

EU not ever gonna have node lvl 3 if they gonna wipe

[rose zodiac]

Doubt there will be a wipe any time soon if they can do rollbacks like this

[keen scarab]

they should wipe into merge

[rose zodiac]

So the 50 people who hit max level on week 1 can play together? 😄

[keen scarab]

so eu people who actually play the game have a server with population to test stuff in

[plucky bramble]

i think its more then 50

[glacial escarp]

But you couldve rolled na?

[keen scarab]

some of us did

i cba with waking up at 5 am to play a siege

also in 2.5 only action we had in eu time zone was vs eu guilds

[glacial escarp]

Doubt it wouldve been changed even on a mega server tbh

[keen scarab]

id rather have that than this shit we are calling a "server"

50% of the population is afk fishing at cookhouse

[pulsar sentinel]

thats more riverlands havent seen that in the anvil

[mossy bramble]

Idk I’m kinda enjoying the slower pace

[keen scarab]

i havent been in anvils yet but i heard its dead af

[rose zodiac]

I mean it's going to be a loong phase

[glacial escarp]

Its not dead
But after leveling there i wish i wad

Was*

[keen scarab]

yeah but if is this dead this early on the phase what makes u guys think it will be better later down the line

[pulsar sentinel]

true in comparison to the riverlands

fun area tho

[rose zodiac]

What is dead, though? People not taking vacations to rush to max level?

[keen scarab]

who is talking about vacations?

[rose zodiac]

I mean I talked to some level 25 guys before the weekend, they told me they didn't even sleep 😄

[keen scarab]

also i hit 25 in 3 days while eating and sleeping 8 hours x night

[glacial escarp]

I dont think my definition of fun, lines up with yours

I dont find getting 1 tapped by lvl 20 birds fun

[keen scarab]

some people just know the game better and are way more efficent with their time

[zealous pebble]

Not everybody is coming to phase with plan to grind for 12+ hours daily with a premade groups, while gear is crafted.

[mossy bramble]

Because I think a ton of people are playing casually. I also think the server seems more dead than it actually is because the map is so goddamn big

[pulsar sentinel]

i have been mostly in the bonfire outpost and the hammerest outpost. Haven't encoutered lvl 20 birds (im happy)

[zealous pebble]

Feels like so many are forgetting that goal of game is to have fun 🙂

[keen scarab]

i think its at least half of population of p2 start

[rose zodiac]

It's not just knowing the game better - it's also the fact that if you get ahead of the curve, you get no competition at farm spots

[glacial escarp]

Some people, only enjoy doing stuff that require others

[keen scarab]

yes...? thats the whole point?

[rose zodiac]

Meanwhile, people who are leveling at the average rate have to take way lower exp/hour due to massive activity at popular spots

[keen scarab]

what massive activity lmao

steelbloom have 10 people in it

[rose zodiac]

Steelbloom is still ahead of the curve I believe

[zealous pebble]

I mean, I get it.
For some, only fun they can have is to rush to end fast and then use "ahead of the curve" power to gank people chilling and slowing their progress so they can gank them for longer

[keen scarab]

i went to hh yesterday there were 3 groups

everybody is just afk

[glacial escarp]

There was 15 groups in steel yday

[keen scarab]

?????????????

[glacial escarp]

When some cartel were figjting holiday

[keen scarab]

15 groups

thats 100+ people

in steelbloom

[glacial escarp]

Yeah

[keen scarab]

steelbloom shits the bed with 20 people inside

[glacial escarp]

I know, the entire server was there

[keen scarab]

brother i was there, i didnt see the entire server tbh

or if that was the entire server we really need a merge

[zealous pebble]

Also, I slowly see people exploring other areas.
I am seeing regular groups now in turquoise sea, fighting on random islands.
Even saw some groups leveling in jundark.

Only have not been to desert (started in anvils)

[rose zodiac]

Like I said, I didn't find a single uncontested spot this weekend, I expect it to be the same next weekend

[keen scarab]

what spot are u contesting tho

cuase the fishing spots are pretty contested true

[rose zodiac]

Desert minotaurs, desert POIs, HH, Anvil POIs

[zealous pebble]

Many already know how bloom, carphin and the like work and they want to at least grind in some different way

[glacial escarp]

There was a bunch of groups there , say what u want man
Most corners of the spot had 2 groups in them that alone is like 8

• some on bears and some spread out

It aint as lively as it could be for sure
But it aint DEAD

[keen scarab]

tbf i havent been in the desert yet

[pulsar sentinel]

hy kao

[keen scarab]

but i cant imagine desert being more popylar than riverlands

[mossy bramble]

Maybe, but I think more will stick around

[dull jungle]

from what i saw its not. there are people in most spots but its not really contested

[zealous pebble]

I plan to stick around, even level alts and shit, chill out long term

[glacial escarp]

People rather switch spots than contest atm it feels like

Fighting over tags, and flagging being fucked i cant blame em either

[mossy bramble]

What’s not helping is node xp being a joke. It’s way too high. And public works are limited for some reason, so putting crates in only get you so far

[zealous pebble]

There is simply so many options now, and "HC pvpers" cant deal with people who don't want to be ganked so they whine

[glacial escarp]

I mean, its not like nodes being leveled will change much

[zealous pebble]

they insist "oh come to steelbloom to farm, server dead" because they can't be arsed to chase groups in desert/jundark/sea

[glacial escarp]

I sure am looking forward to crafting my bow that requires 375 ash wood

[rose zodiac]

Honestly if people are bored at max level, ganking low levels is super counter-productive

Because it only delays stuff even more 😄

[zealous pebble]

"come where we want you so that WE can gank in spot of our choosing"

yep, agree 100% Sun

[mossy bramble]

Itll allow artisans to actually progress, which will keep people around

[glacial escarp]

Brother , have u seen the jm recipes ?

Aint no one making those things

375 wood for a single fucking weapon is vile

[zealous pebble]

Some HC sweats are nice and actually help weaker players with farming, even with gear hand downs, even some tips and tricks or pvp practice

[glacial escarp]

Nah
The one thing u cant cry about is pvp players gatekeeping

EVERYONE in the pvp community in ashes has been willing to help people learn the pvp

[zealous pebble]

Oh, I am not crying about that at all

even the guilds i chat-pvp are very open with tips and practice sessions 🙂

[bleak badge]

I mean the cheapest recipes of each tier (initiate, adept, radiant) seem totally doable resource-wise, but when going to the best ones the requirements are insane

[mossy bramble]

Yeah it’s a ton of work, but it’s something to work towards.
I’m not saying it’s GOOD, just that it’ll help with player retention

[glacial escarp]

Radiant recipes are straight up batshit insane

[viscid scroll]

Ong they didn’t release player numbers I bet for all of p3 they got 5k concurrent max

[keen scarab]

why would they tho, econ is fucked and they are clearly clueless about it, there is still 0 content in the game that is nto pvp and mob grinding, they killed pvp....

[keen scarab]

for sure people in na have been saying its kinda dead there as well

[bleak badge]

240 ash wood, 66 daffodil, 66 oak wood for shortbow seems alright (of course if you want to create higher rarity it's gonna be bad but...)

[green peak]

I still dont know how tf hold to flag is a thing on live, how did it not get reverted to the toggle on PTR after all the complaints

[viscid scroll]

They can’t be mad thou we legit BEGGED Steven to not release this dog shit

[zealous pebble]

More to explore, opportunity to have healthy PvP with balanced teams, overall more chill atmosphere.

There are no guilds rushing progress and then using their top spot mainly to keep others from progressing.

Simply, atmosphere on server seems a lot healthier than on start of p2

[glacial escarp]

Lets do the math
Each adult tree is 5 so you would need
48 ash trees, 13(+1) oak trees
For a single fucking bow

And all of ideally high rarity

[mossy bramble]

I mean I’m a top tier copium huffer, so that’s why.
I could well be wrong. Probably am, we’ll see.

[bleak badge]

maybe i am acoustic but that seems like a perfectly fine amount of trees to chop down (or time invested in gathering) for a basic radiant weapon

[zealous pebble]

and quite important, game is much more stable.
I was crashing regular on start of p2 and in p1.
(Crashed only once in p3)
Networking seems to work great even in areas with lots of people fighting.

[bleak badge]

but i agree that for any rarity above common it's insane

[mossy bramble]

That’s the problem, why would you go grind artisan stuff when you can go carphin instead

[zealous pebble]

@mossy bramble for rarity

[glacial escarp]

Because u would be capped at rare stuff from carphin

[zealous pebble]

you can't get legendary carphin so easy 😄

[keen scarab]

im also a giga coper for the game (im still here after all this dogshit) but copium ometimes needs to be refueled

[glacial escarp]

And u need to grind carphin anyways for the recipes , and the corrupted blood

So either way, u gotta grind it

[zealous pebble]

yep, you grind recipes and mats in "carphin" like zois

not the drops themselves

[keen scarab]

eventually u wont have to

people will have all the recipes

and corrupted blood is gonna be basically free

[fiery plover]

Crafting recipes are giga reeeeeeeetarded

[zealous pebble]

I would not be surprised if they make corrupted blood and the like untradeable.
Or tradeable only to people who were in party/raid when kill happened

[rose zodiac]

It's basically less than half an hour of farming (with the crappiest axe) for a high level item though, that's pretty fast

[glacial escarp]

That would kill crafters

[glacial escarp]

Rarity , common is clearly useless

[rose zodiac]

It's only useless because of the droprates now

In general common radiant is a massive upgrade over common adept

I mean it's even an upgrade over legendary adept

[keen scarab]

why does a bow cost 700 logs tho

isnt that just stupid?

[rose zodiac]

You need to go through 700 trees to find just the right one when you assemble it 😄

[glass belfry]

Steven tax, he needs extra wood for his yacht.

[glacial escarp]

if it wasnt for the drop rates ( and they arent even as bad as yall crying about i practically leveled to 20 NAKED cuz we had 0 drops)
everyone would be still wearing nothing
everyone starting anvils would still be naked cuz half the items are not craftable there

[mossy bramble]

Yes but good luck getting 800 legendary wood

[glass belfry]

it feels so artificial 600 wood, and 60 fish on the top of it. I hope these are placeholder values. Not great for combat testing for sure

[fiery plover]

There's nothing wrong with drop rates. Gear should drop. Crafting should just be accessable and the gear good enough that crafting it cannot be ignored

[glacial escarp]

i swear to god, idk who looked at it and thought "ah , this looks FUN"

its like sometimes intrepid forget the game should be a fun thing

[mossy bramble]

I miss p2 crafting

[fiery plover]

Ditto

[glass belfry]

replacing actual content with grind, so people keep playing

[mossy bramble]

It was simple, intuitive and rewarding. Why they changed it is beyond me

[zealous pebble]

Getting legendary gear should be hard.
Don't expect to have legendary set in 2 months on live game.
People playing will sure have leg up with all the knowledge

[glacial escarp]

its another situation of devs not playing thier own game, yet they keep developing it with a vision

[rose zodiac]

It's only a problem because there are no nodes, no economy, no market

The current (increased) droprates are fine for this situation

But in a few weeks, they don't make sense anymore

[glacial escarp]

BROTHER HALF THE LVL 1 ARMORS IN THE GAME REQUIRE GREMS
GREMS THAT DONT SPAWN IN ANVILS
A STARTER ZONE
WHICH REQUIRES LEVEL 1 ARMOR
THAT CANT BE MADE DUE TO THE LACK OF GREMS

[glass belfry]

do you realise these resource costs are the same for common quality gear?

[zealous pebble]

And current 600 legendary wood is I hope a temporary "this is how hard it will be to make legendary gear"

[rose zodiac]

Which is a problem because there is no economy, no transport, no markets

[glacial escarp]

how the fuck

would u transport gremskins

[zealous pebble]

Does not really matter, pretty sure all of this is palceholder stuff until we get real recipes

[glacial escarp]

to anvils

[rose zodiac]

With caravans

[glacial escarp]

with lvl 20 hawks 1tapping everything in sight

[rose zodiac]

A core gameplay loop

[mossy bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-works-tod-todd-howard-тоддговард-fallout-skyrim-gif-14803660

[glacial escarp]

[glass belfry]

Im looking forward to even more cursed storage management games with these resource quantities

https://tenor.com/view/tetris-gif-19278233

[glacial escarp]

its a STARTER ZONE
when u start the game , if you are supposed to get ur first gear set by crafting it should be craftable

[keen scarab]

open development was a mistake

[zealous pebble]

Lol, made several trips to anvils and back with sub-10 characters

easy as a pie

[glacial escarp]

having people run to a diffrent starter zone, cuz thier starter zone doesnt have any mats available is straight up dumb

[mossy bramble]

We’re struggling atm with storage because there’s just SO MANY recipes.

[rose zodiac]

Fully agree, that's not what I'm saying should happen at all

[glacial escarp]

no oak, no ash, no grem , cant craft half the starter items in the game

[rose zodiac]

I am saying crafters should cater to demand

Not that every new player needs to be a crafter

[zealous pebble]

And anvils is completely unfinished.
Mobs are in random positions, many terrain bugs and such

[glacial escarp]

but if ur early game loop is cooked, how are crafters even supposed to get thier start ?

[mossy bramble]

That would be awesome, shame that crafting early is so fucking expensive and no way to make gold

[zealous pebble]

anvils is basically in state in which desert was in start of p2

but even worse, because mobs are even more randomly placed

[glacial escarp]

but unlike desert, anvils is a starterzone

[mossy bramble]

We had our main levelling group funnel all our glint into a group of 6-7 crafters and it wasn’t even close to enough cash

[rose zodiac]

Yeah, balance is fucked right now

[glass belfry]

it was the same when they introduced the desert, but at least riverlands are closer to those nodes

[zealous pebble]

also, this is still alpha
systems are in development

[rose zodiac]

Leveling up a single profession is insanely expensive

[glacial escarp]

BUT YOU CANT CREATE A NEW CHARACTER IN DESERT
i love the fact that we all are ignoring the main part of the issue

[keen scarab]

9 years alpha

[zealous pebble]

I think many of whiners should wait until beta if they are annoyed by this

[mossy bramble]

Nah mate, you can’t use this excuse anymore when they had a good crafting system that they changed for 0 reason

[keen scarab]

p2 crafting was bis

[glass belfry]

fair I didnt look at it that way

[keen scarab]

p2 was bis after ttk changes

[zealous pebble]

yeah, I agree. I actually expected a lot more of the "game" done.
Thought all the classes are fleshed out and only needed to be implemented and same for lore and all mechanics

[keen scarab]

how do they manage to fuck things up so badly in just a few months

[mossy bramble]

P2 Classic when?

[keen scarab]

actually tho

eu already looks like a private server

[zealous pebble]

Actual state of game feels more like they made something that kinda works and are now adding features.
It really does not feel like 9 years of development.

Even if those 9 years were by a small team.

[glacial escarp]

for classes we gotta wait for the guy who made rouge and bard to rebalance all the others - cuz they feel bad in comparison

[mossy bramble]

It’s fine guys, Harbinger update will fix everything 🤡

[fiery plover]

They tried to fix TTK and ended up fucking everything from econ to crafting with the approach they took

[glacial escarp]

for the rest of the game ? can only cope

[zealous pebble]

But from perspective of what they are doing now, game is being changed significantly.

[keen scarab]

new world invasions

[zealous pebble]

Well, TTK needed fixing terribly.

[glacial escarp]

FAST TTK > 2.5 SLUG FEST

[glass belfry]

I have bad news for you, according to an interview with Steven, Bucky is a narrative designer now? not sure if that means he no longer is doing class/combat stufff

[fiery plover]

At what point do they just say P2 was a better iteration and take a different TTK fix approach?

[glacial escarp]

nah, we are cooked

the one person, who made something fun in the game

[zealous pebble]

I think TTK is fine now.
But I did not actually fight at "geared level 25" since p2 start

[glacial escarp]

has been moved

[keen scarab]

they took the only person who had talent in class design and put him to make quests

[glacial escarp]

lowkey, the only hope i have for the game

[zealous pebble]

Being one-shotted by some random bard spell as geared fighter in start of p2 was terrible

[glacial escarp]

is intrepid start legit rolling toons in secret in their alpha servers

[mossy bramble]

Tbf it seems decent. It’s something to do.
Also fuck that, fishing is BACK baby

[glacial escarp]

and play the game

[keen scarab]

everything seems decent until they implement it

[glacial escarp]

cuz there is absolutely no way, they play this game and think ah yes , this is fun

[mossy bramble]

True

[keen scarab]

idk i hope its not another bandaid fix like lawless zones

[mossy bramble]

Once again my tinfoil hat theory grows stronger.
Steven made ashes purely as a social experiment

[zealous pebble]

Eh, all this talk of PvP, one very serious question

How can I "toggle" pvp flag

holding down the key all time is absolutely terrible

RSI...

[bleak badge]

also interested in this: i was told that as soon as i'm flagged as a combatant myself i don't have to hold it down but that did not seem to be the case yesterday 😄

[keen scarab]

bind ur toggle pvp to alt+f

press alt first to toggle it

press f first to untoggle it

[bleak badge]

was alt-f the keybind for flagging in bdo? 🤔

feels oddly familiar

no, it was alt-c

[zealous pebble]

I think I tried such combos, but it was always "only flagged while holding Alt".
Will try again later, thanks 🙂

And I bound alt to other shortcuts, so "<" (next to left shift) is my "pvp alt", will probably have to rebind everything 😄

This Alt+f to toggle worked normally before, no idea what they changed to screw it up...

[versed marsh]

Can we all agree that current way to flag is clunky as hell and needs fixing?

[mossy bramble]

I mean, once again, why was it changed

[versed marsh]

Like can I just have a bind to toggle it on and off and not fuck around with this modifier bs work around

[mossy bramble]

And why do I have to force flag in a lawless zone.

[versed marsh]

yeah thats also stupid

[mossy bramble]

Man I havnt whined in this long, idk how you guys keep up with it

[cold imp]

Nvmd. Its 11:00 pm

[versed marsh]

Read the announcement again

Come back in 12 hours

[ripe sand]

Come back juuust before midnight :p

[versed marsh]

Well, not that I was looking for an excuse to go to the pub but guess I have one now

[keen scarab]

i think they said 12 hours as a worst case scenario

[somber river]

did i understand that right? today i cant play because it will be set back to this mornings time?

[versed marsh]

They will be rolling back to before this mornings patch

It’ll take them all day to sort

[cold imp]

Good thing i stopped playing early yesterday. 🙂

[versed marsh]

National holiday in the US, OT bill will be rough

[somber river]

hmmm but why not rollback now? 😄 why wait 18 hours for that

[versed marsh]

They are rolling back now

It will take them the whole day to complete it

[somber river]

ohh reamls are down until its finished ok

dang that scks

[versed marsh]

It is what it is

Stark reminder this is a true alpha and not a released live service game

[brazen copper]

they are not just rolling back, they are also diagnosing and fixing the issue that resulted in needing this rollback

[versed marsh]

That too

[brazen copper]

i don't think the rollback alone would need 12 hours.
most of their team will only wake up in ~4 hours so they will only have like 6 active hours to work on this

[glass belfry]

yeah, Im fine with that aspect. I just wish there was less prototyping at the game design level, like it is atm with eco, but then Im not a game dev

[versed marsh]

I dont like these sweeping econ changes seemingly throw in

First the drop change

Then the rarity change

[keen scarab]

ptr is used to test skins

[versed marsh]

EU still no lvl 3 node

[keen scarab]

kinda of a joke tbh

[versed marsh]

Honestly standing up ptr for a few hours and saying “hey please go gather and check this isnt fucked”

Should have happened

[keen scarab]

this is PI's fault btw, i bet they were crying about having their skins in an alpha

[glass belfry]

from a layman perspective, there seems to be way too much "lets wing it" at that level at this stage. It was the same story with TTK/stats scaling

[versed marsh]

I blame @glass forge for everything

[viscid scroll]

Pi’s are legit a determinant to this game none of there takes should be taken serious for the most part there all old washed up brainwashed Steven lovers

Like I like Steven to but man dude is gonna kill his own game to much regression

[pearl apex]

not really if u consider that most of the maintenances since the launch of phase 3 started at around 18 o'clock at ended at average 2hours after they startet... prime time and we couldn't barely play.

therefore most people tried to grind on the weekend but keep in head, that some don't want to grind on the saturday or sunday if its sunny or an reallife event is taking place

[keen scarab]

Yeah but thats normal?

People complaining about maintenance are insanely slow

They are an NA based Company, when do u think they are gonna work and push updates

U should complain about the dogshit changes they push into the game, not the time schedule of when they push it

[versed marsh]

This is a perfect example of why you dont push significant updates at a time you dont have operational support. They made a big change at midnight their time a which has resulted in it now probably being down a full day

[pearl apex]

u don't get it ^^ we don't complain about the maintenances bc it's an NA based company (without a department in EU) and it's a alpha on top of that.

I simply wanted to explain to you why EU is a bit behind und why some players are not really active

bc u said our state of server is "a joke"

:)

[mossy bramble]

I mean it’s hilarious that they push these fixes without using the PTR a few days off from them saying that all updates would use ptr

[keen scarab]

Well the server Is a joke

[pearl apex]

no it isn't mate

[keen scarab]

But i was referring to the fact that they using ptr to test skins

[versed marsh]

Im assuming PTR will be used for these tuesday patches they talked about on stream

[keen scarab]

Instead of big changes

[pearl apex]

they used ptr for big changes in the past. like what are you talking about...

[versed marsh]

But im not gonna hold my breath

[pearl apex]

did you sleep the last few months?

[keen scarab]

Ah yes like the momentum change

Or the cc to non combatant change

[versed marsh]

Bro just let me pick up my rocks in peace

[keen scarab]

Nah u have to fight for resources in this game

Or well

U used to

Now Steven caved in to the pve bobs

[mossy bramble]

They havnt since April I’m pretty sure for anything that was pushed to prod

[versed marsh]

Id be good if the lawless poi buff applied to gatherables

[mossy bramble]

Or put reagents in the lawless trading posts

[keen scarab]

Jayco dont waste time explaining stuff to these passengers

[viscid scroll]

Remember guys not all feedback is good feedback

[keen scarab]

They are here today tomorrow they wont

[versed marsh]

Tbh I can decide if I’m for or against the cc change

[mossy bramble]

It’s a good change, made at the wrong time. I hate it but you can’t really make that change without proper systems to prop up what it solves

[versed marsh]

Damage should interrupt the gather as a minimum

[keen scarab]

Corruption should be a viable state

But Steven cant Say that or no One would buy the game

[viscid cove]

yall just want to farm newbies for resources 😂

[keen scarab]

Yes especially u

[versed marsh]

Corruption definitely needs a tuning pass

[viscid cove]

ive yet to see you Ado720 say anything that is not complaining

[versed marsh]

Ado is one of the two big pvp guilds, cant be surprised they want to pvp

[mossy bramble]

No. I am the newbie gatherer. I fucking despise being able to CC greens. It’s boring gameplay and favours the attacker. However, it was the only way to contest mobs in poi’s, which is more important . There’s nuance to this

[viscid cove]

yeah PVP-er complaingin that he cant kill anyone and anytime whenever he wants

[keen scarab]

[viscid scroll]

U will never be successful

[versed marsh]

That isnt what hes saying tho

[distant hill]

If you can’t cc green MAKE IT SO DAMAGE STOP GATHERING

[versed marsh]

You flag, hit them so they stop the channel