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crazy is this shit is still runing, just turn it off its stinks
What do you have against jews?
You some sort gay nazi lover? Or just a normal piece garbage scum of the earth?
https://steamdb.info/app/4124950/charts/ do you guys think the new owners of intrepid will eventually be able to sell the game assets? Or " convert" the usable part od aoc into a mobile trash cash grab?
Same, i want it too, other devs should buy it and continue.
pelune server location on map start to down/ new aela and ember spring. more then 1h error 37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeEzmPs7i_U&t
Pattern recognition
It's 2026 we know the truth now. Your tiny hat propaganda won't work on us.
All sizes and types of fights exist. 1v1 5v5. Etc. but obviously that stuff isn’t nearly as coordinated as this
people like you are just as smart as libs lol
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WHERES MY MONEY STEVEN YOU GAY LORD!
same old same old, islamonazi scumbags. blame jews when they do their typical barbarian BS. look at that guy up there calling sharif a jew when the name sharif literally means "noble" in islamic arabic 😄 😄 😄
yep thats called taqqiyah. my family are refugees from islam like many of the other thousands of ethnicities and countries (56 of them) colonized, ethnically cleansed and erased by the islamic horde. but yup here come those virtue signaling retards spouting off as always. subhumans by choice. no sympathy.
Edit: this was not replying to SharifMuslimScum now, they changed their message) Yeah they are pretty sick individuals...thinking highly of themselves over another person based on nationality, skin, or religion. Those type of people are scum of the earth. I personally believe real racism should be a federal offense and if you think someone else is lower than you based on their skin color then you should go to jail and be in isolation.
Please fix the npc. Let people who still want to play it. Play it.
hi
says the antifa terrorist
I cannot log in to the server with my character. --- ERROR {37}
The cascading server failures has begun.
How long till you have results in a federal lawsuit?
dont ask for a refund message support about a problem
is server still up???
It's obviously more to do with the stereotype that jews take your money and run and hoard it rather than the religion itself. It's just a joke, no need to be a jew about it.
Clown human being
Citizens of AoC, I call upon thee to help me restore this server to its former glory. Let us all be forthright with ourselves, these few restarts have been complete utter shite. Dost thou know how upset I am over this cataclysmic mishap? I’m afraid I shall not be able to idle by any longer, I must take my leave. I just cannot fathom the complete lack of care, of love, and of dignity, for this server. By the time the servers have been brought back to life, I have managed to relieve myself countless times by dropping large brown timbers into a hole I have painfully dug over the past few hours. O how miserable am I?!
I cannot recall the last time I have felt this way. Utterly shattered, my heart is. As I wipe my posterior with a maiden’s cloth I have found nearby, I ponder over this dilemma. How can we make this server better? And more importantly, how will this piece of cloth be enough for the giant dingleberry hanging on for dearest life upon my one self? I declare myself to be completely befuddled by all this latest development, and for the first time in my years of living, I am powerless to change this server’s fate.
But alas, my dear comrades, one must not lose all hope. As after I am done defiling this piece of a maiden’s cloth, and declare this ground to be forever cursed by my colossal, brown, buried logs, I shall renew my faith and vigor in this quest to save AoC. With your capable hands, my dear friends, we shall be able to breathe life back into this server, and stop these shutdowns once and for all!!!
Hey guys how was the update on the 13th!
It was dope, they finally released Tulnar! Btw I had this weird ass fever dream that Ashes got rugpulled and the development shut down, luckily we can still look forward to the world’s greatest game! 😼
steven was collecting world war 2 artifacts now.....????
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sharif don't like it. rock the cash shop, rock the cash shop
Same here. Instant PayPal refund and no sanctions on account at all. That is after 7 failed steam refund requests
wussup yall, what’s a good class to play as a beginner? i just got this game. looks like everything ive ever wanted in a mmo
How can I make refound? (74 hours)
I missed the stream. What did they showcase?
When is next patch ?
this trolling is getting old
code 37 !?
the game working for me XD
Ало пидорас !!! Что с игрой !!!! Отдай исходник мы сами доделаем !!!
I read somewhere that TFE Holdings? is the owner of Ashes of Creation now. But there are lawsuits between them and Steven at the moment. So who knows.
is the server still up ?

Still up but broken. Needs a restart.
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
OFT HOPE IS BORN WHEN ALL IS FORLORN
did game get trashed lol
just buy this on solana CJMzydWLcfjRf4CqGhpGWGyxVc5bv6MfgTWuvytPpump x)
How much longer will the servers be up before they go down for good, anyone know?
Looks like some of the servers are busted? Getting an error code 37
Come to Play NEW WORLD let's enjoy
gonna shut down in en of january 2027
It is inevitable that Nexon or Netease or Tencent etc purchase all the code and assets and finish the game as a gacha
Hi! Is the game working? I haven't had internet for a couple of days, and now I see the Code 37. Is it a conflict of the new router, or is the game not working?
ща проверю
never played the game but looked it up and someone said on steam to create a new character and try to log in with it.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/4124950/discussions/0/695373728984476855/
game was rugpulled, its a scam.
Ahhh its sad. This has been the only MMO i was actually excited for but signs were there. lol
Hope this marks the end of buying dreams on kickstarter projects.. especially if its an MMO.
You talk a lot of shit for someone with flammable skin
For real. To think I got myself a laptop just the day before the big drama… 🤡…
Good thing it happened cause gaming on a laptop should be ilegal
around 6-7 days or weeks
so this server is dead now yes?
Getting a laptop for gaming in general was a mistake
are the servers still up
un-usable - so many areas in the map are broken, if you are logged out there you cant sign in, rip
Anyone wanna farm tonight? Just got back from deployment and I’m so dam ready to grind some Ashes
games dead, go check youtube n see what happened studio closed @gritty pike
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What is the max upgrade level for the nodes? The system looks really cool and promising!
oh so i should uninstall and leave?
Not if rust devs buy it xd
Men your living in your head. Go touch grass.
^Bro doesn't know what xd means
Ф остата да ви го дам целия .!!!!
hi can anyone explain how chuming in sportfishing work what chum too use for diffrent fish
Well if you're actually serious and still playing the game, the chum doesn't determine the kinds of fish. There's just saltwater and freshwater chum. You use different types of lures for chances of different kinds of fish (ideally with better rods and fishing equipment to better catch the better fish with). :)
Are the servers still shitting themselves?
Nah, I am constantly moving, I’m happy with it. 😄
hi
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Is this game good?
dead game or what?
Got money I can flash, yeah, and trash, yeah
I'm a Big Tymer playa, yeah, pull the trigger, yeah
A player-hater flipper, yeah, grave filler, yeah
I be slanging wood, yeah, out the hood, yeah
Let it be understood, yeah, it's all good, yeah
dead
Scam game more like it. Steven is literally a lying cocksuker
Do people play this still?
Bro everyone already refunded
I just purchased, can’t wait til game comes out!!
Maybe someone will do a private server or something and stick it to these fuck faces that scam.
About to leave the discord so i had to see what was being said LOL trollin, trollin, keep them trolls a trollin !
When game getting revived?
Just bought the game, so excited to play really soon! I heard so much cool stuff about this!
https://dkp-manager.com DKP system for guilds
Hey guys, when is release day?
do people still buy this scam game 😛 ?
Cant even buy this game anymore :P
Steven released himself instead of the game
there is a saying, «no news, good news». There are no news the past month, so the development is continuing i believe.
LFM oak lvling group
So tell me now, when does this god damn totally busted next gen mmo will out. Im hyped as fuck xD. I pumped nearly 5k in it
Cause of contract breach I think, Steam stop selling the game. They might be release in another gaming platform. I missed level grinding on my days off from work 🙁 playing AoC while doing some side hustle.
So when does beta start?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2294660/The_Quinfall/ - ur new home
I mean after 7 years this game was janky as hell even for an alpha
anyone able to get a refund on steam? I requested twice and it was denied
google search how to do it..you have to ask a question about the product or steam program looks at hours played and instant deny
someone should have an AI steal the source code and release AoC as a complete game, free to play
This is Ashes of Ashes of Creation
Game still dying?
No, already is dead
More players than the ex1348 lgbt game made for the "modern audience" 😂
so much gay yet modern audience still MIA
Is it April yet? Still waiting for the April Fools!
Here you go =^_^=
cant wait the shariff live on twitch on 13 february!
So are we still getting the gold beetle mount from that last stress test?
Shariff live from the mansion he bought with the money he embezzled at Intrepid
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Is Epitome good ?
crazy people still boosting this server lol
epitome is a good entry level bv. i think the dual olympus setup right now though is a better deal.
Atleast I have been loggin in and keeping up my rent
nice
this game coming out soon?
When launch?
Thanks! I was able to get a credit yesterday. I'll take what I can get lol
any working server? i tried 3 and theyy are broken.. i love Ashes wnt to play
did the finally come down
servers finally went down?
From what I understand the servers themselves are still up, but the server workers in some areas are so messed up that they prevent people from logging in if your character was logged out there.
give me back my money gay bitch
Go ahead and ban me you scamming cucks
any one else LOVING the future of ASHES ???
Any news?
Gloria Victis is relaunching. Most likely due to the news here no doubt.
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AOC GOTY 2026!!!
MUCH LOVE STEVIE XOXO!!! THEY HATE US CUZ THEY AIN'T US! GOTY 2026!!!
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Fair thee well everyone all the best going forward in your future endeavors. I have my refund so ima head out.
just here to check wtf is going on? servers gone? steven gay>?
https://steamcharts.com/app/4124950
Steam claims 59 people "playing". Is there anyone actually in the game?
yea me and your crush are having a blast
Go check out “Scars of Honor” if you haven’t yet. Demo is out this spring.
I'm looking forward to seeing the full release of this game, thanks for this amazing experience Steve!
so funniee jokey jolk I laff evertim
Go ahead and ban me you scamming cucks
make it 60, logging in now
Steven sold me fent yesterday
So, anyways, is the game actually dead? What's everyone's thoughts on the next steps? Is it going to relaunch under something else? What are TheLazyPeon's thoughts on all of this?
im on Tenok xD
Make it 61. I'm also logging in 🙂
Been watching this game since it was first announced. So glad I never put a dime into this mess.
i love Ashes of Creation. Elon? Take over please. But please do not rename to "Y".
it can still makea comebackright
... the most positive outcome we can hope for is that we will still get new mmos in some capacity. cuz this is about as bad as it could get
new class coming soon, excited!!! NODE WARSSS
- For new class, just buy a new DLC... kickstarter coming soon.
Hey guys I just brought ashes is it fun?
newcucumber chats
Eggs Benedict Cucumber Batch
anybody still able to connect to the game?
So hyped! Can't wait to support them again
Game isn't dead. The servers are still barely on. But all the devs are gone and all the investors & steven fighting in lawsuits and courts. So you still have a chance of the game surviving. The chance is : 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
There is a higher chance of the universe spontaneously collapsing in on itself than Ashes having its development continued, sweet.
so where refund
Probably they will sell the game to some P2W asian company
is the game back?
LIAR !!
@elfin musk You and your husband John Moore- the Chief Financial Officer had a plan to scam before, It's that true????😱 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLSd_MzdgeE (Please turn on English subtitles.)
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74 players playing 😭
@gritty elk good luck in court. You're gonna need every ounce of luck you can get after those text messages Jason leaked.
Of course not Steven would never do something like that. Kappa 🧢
servers dead yet
Guys pls how can i get my 250$ refunded its half of my monthly salary
sell your account on ebay
why would you even spend half of your monthly salary on a game?
for years of entertainment
Anvils is the go to starting place
"playing" on servers that are going down faster than Steven does on his hubby's D
I assume you bought from interpid website. Contact the organization that handles the payment method you used and claim "undelivered digital items", "false advertising" or "faulty product" (those were most fitting cases in my opinion).
I have my own request pending with my credit card provider at the moment so cant guarantee those will work yet, but atleast they sisnt outright reject my request (last week they wanted additional information about studio clousure and I sent them the WARN Notice stating studio was to be closed on start od february).
The next patch is going to be so awesome
hope steven announces his next blockbuster soon. my wallet is ready.
The private server of AoC will suck since the game is still in alpha 2.
Wait... people are making a private server for this dog shit? 🤣 🤣 🤣
LOL HOW PATHETIC
you can still get refunds on steam just try multiple times till you get an actual human on the support and they will refund it doesnt matter how much you played
I think theres a higher chance at that lol
Guys I’m so rich when ashes comes back you will all kneel before me
even if it did come back bro that shit is getting wiped lol
I better hope for nw private servers, not this alpha 2 shit😂
Yeah. Alpha 2 private server of AoC will be boring once you hit 25 no more content hahahaha. A full game of it’s private server that’s something but it’s a dream right now
I've tried twice. All my friends got their 40 bucks back. I've just chalked it up to being a dumb bitch for falling for the scam.
Nah bro I got fat stacks off g2g on the cheap just yesterday. Yall are so fucked when servers come back on and they continue development.
Great news everyone! I have a business opportunity for all of you here🥳 You can now invest in my Nigerian gold shipment, all you have to do is send 100$ to prove you are serious and you'll get an entire kilogram of gold!!. Only available for a limited time of course!
steam jsut going to let this scam slide or sue the fuck out of them?
Hey bro i have a great deal for you, you will receive 100$ worth in scemcoin(tm) for your shipment... when both of our investments increase in asset worth, we just apply it as a deduction to our taxes

There are handful of lawsuits going on at the state and federal level.. courts are slow
but do I get a special flair? because that's the important thing here
FEELS STEVEN MAN
When is the game releasing?
cant tell if a joke
Game is shit. Russians make shit games shittier.
when do we get out of the alpha phase anyone know?
So servers finally went down?
yo steven i got no good games to grind now get the game back goin
Might have to handwrite a letter to TF Games Holdings for this info
any guilds recruiting?
are the servers still up, can I still play?
Thinking about getting the game, what are your opinions on it?
should have changed your name befor posting bait. ^^
lol
Someone restart the servers please. Server workers are dead. Thank you!
50 Shaman - Ashbreather Enclave TD Key Questing http://twitch.tv/srslyambient
AoC is an amazing good game with huge potential if you have tried another INDIE game on the Steam.
Hey stephen, when is release?
before 2020
Did the servers stop running? Getting errorcode 37 when I try and join with my toon
I'm thinking about buying this game but I cant buy it on Steam anymore, what happened?
you've been in here since january 8th figure it out.
maybe try rebooting your pc?
You need to update your Steam client.
Just bought a steam key for this game. Eager to play. Any other new players here that wanna party up?
After 26 tickets finally got a refund, don't give up bois.
Da vi sera u ostata
King of curious on how you got a key when the game was taken off the steam store.
the answer is: trolling
I'm thinking of buying the game to play it. I saw some videos and it looks amazing. How do I do it?
are the servers still online?
WoW was the first MMO. I'll take famous lines of trolling for $1000 Alex...
any news on Ashes of Creation 2? When fundraiser??
Why poeple are baiting me, I just want to buy the game
Buy a steam account with AoC in it
I sell you mine 10k
I need a TLDR
SAME
..Yeah i call bullshit to the announcementthinking you're the victim I want to see what every side has to say not just your side I'll look forward to seeing the court case.
@gritty elk we know you're full of shit, just give up and leave already
Steven Sharif claims Intrepid’s board tried to take control of Ashes of Creation through an unlawful foreclosure. He sued them in federal court, won a temporary restraining order blocking them from using the game’s assets, and says the case will reveal the truth about the shutdown. <---- chat gpt summarization of post
Brother it’s shut down, there is no game, it’s all a scam, he literally knew it was gonna shut down and put it on steam to get more money
steven your a fucking clown
I honestly can't even believe he's trying to save face anymore. He needs to give up. Just more lies.
@gritty elk 🤡 🐀
are the servers down now
I can only comment once a day 😄
I'm still in this server? Thank god I never bought into the game. My condolences to those who did tho
Scam artist pretending to give a shit
This fuckin Steven guy!
neck yourself!
well stupid lie ever why you even make this server slow mode also in the end game will eos and no refund at all
o boy
@voodka Throw some heat in here pal
Stop tagging everyone @gritty elk 😭 😭
Question. Will winning the lawsuit even bring the game back at all. Or the game's cooked all together?
this is another case of "fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me" lol 😂
The game is already funded guys
Yeah I'm not reading the wall of text from that. All I read was supreme court and defending our team. I am getting huge full of shit vibes from this. I am sure this game is officially dead.
This game failing restored my faith in humanity
tldr, slop dev made slop game
I just read the post not played in a while so there is no server or game now rofl 🤣 ?
This guy could easily release the evidence that he spent millions of his own money and didn't get more back but he won't, because he can't. He's talking about user retention rates because he knows his supporters are too dumb to put any thought into why a game that wasn't even really released would have a high retention rate.
TRO isnt really a win, pretty standard until court can see - if the accounting record keeping is as bad as the claims, and the texts and everything are real, the only people who ultimately win here are the attorneys
Honestly the game would have been out if the scammers got away with it instead of it being in stevens hand lol
Could I offer my butt for a refund? How does this work?
there is no board, but i resigned from the board to stop the board from making a board decision
I'm so glad I got my refund, I hope you guys get yours
Sounds like a hostile takeover of sorts, likely due to incompetence
SYBAU
Project Gorgon is better anyways
I’m gonna hold off until the court case brings out the facts, I will not assume anything of anyone like y’all are doing.
private equity doing private equity things
After Stephen wins in court this game is gonna be lit AF after Kickstarter 2 and another ten years of development
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without addressing the fact that there was supposed to be no board since he funded most of it lmao
Crazy that dude is actively trying to fight this and bring the game back and people are just not appreciating that
He financed it agaisnt his personal equity
Can someone turn on reacts in news announcements so I laugh react, thanks in advance
Are the servers still up?
Fking israel
we are so back
installing the game again, we love @gritty elk
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play Star Citizen instead, a game that is actually being made 📈 🗿 use my link and we both get free shit
Well i am not getting a refund anyways..so lets wait how it goes. From here on out it can only get better.
how do you get your refunds guys from steam or from them directly? can any1 advise please and thanks
Steven is cooked
If you paid for it on steam just refund the game as credit onto your steam account. That’s how I got mine to work
Этот парень просто скамер, а сейчас он пытается сохранить хоть как то лицо
I mean this has been sus
I can't log into the game
It's hard to say, given all of the drama and the history coming out, even if Steven wins the lawsuit, the project probably won't recieve anymore funding from investors because the opinion is that he is paying himself and his husband a King's Ransom of a Salary with the investor money, effectively just flipping investor funds into their own piggy bank... which they really don't like when you do that, but usually don't care as long as the company is making enough to pay back the loans over time. Even if part of the highlight is that he is financing it through investors using his personal equity as collateral, it doesn't change that he lied about "personally" funding the game this whole time, and moved into a McMansion during this time.
So if Steven Loses, it means one of two things, either a complete takeover, and maybe we'll see some kind of resurgence of the game, but there'll be a TON of changes, and we might end up with another slop mmo cash shop grab, tokens to buy to instantly level to max, that kind of things, and more pay to win (not that you couldn't already). Or the game is shut down, assets are sold, and those of us in the mmo industry as players, might see things like the tank wall or cleric circle in some new upcoming mmo, knowing it was from a game that never came out.
If Steven Wins, we still might see the game turn into another slop mmo cash shop grab in order to pay off all the loans. Else it might end up just being an IP for him to sit on and do nothing with, even for all the talk of trying to keep the game alive.
yeah, the game offered some good ideas, if it comes back, I'll give it another chance, the only thing to do is wait and see
Even if he wins the lawsuit we all know it takes a few years to finish a lawsuit
Ok.. I hear your side... @elfin musk now can you turn the servers back on and let the honest people play while you guys sort out who is lying and who is telling the truth?
@cobalt relic He needs to pay the bill first lol
i got 5 dollars on the bill to turn the servers back on whos with me
I aint here since the beginning but word sure travels fast when it comes to lawsuits.
Guys what is your opinion about the announcement?
How long until Steven asks us for money to fund the court case?
Rip this game and studio
Coming guys. He needs to fund his lake tahoe waterfront lot
Im so Lucky I sold my Rosarium set for real Cash before that issue with steven
Holy fuck I knew grinding contracts this entire time would pay off
what a scam artist
lol they listed their pvp system as IP. THAT'S HILARIOUS
if we all donate just 1 dollar steven can buy another house
That PDF probably has something in it. BEWARE
Is it a cookie?
it doesn't already checked it...what an idiot
I'm just here for the game. If you are telling me there's a chance, even a small percentage, I’ll hold onto that hope. At the end of the day, we were all excited about the game.
I'm rooting for Steven and a abyssmal chance of Ashes revival. 🙂
just play an archeage private server
TURN THE GAME BACK ON
I hope lil homie eats. Buy yourself a new house or new truck or whatever you want my guy, but you beat that ish in court and create the best damn MMO out there
No. The lawsuit itself will probably take year +. Shariff is out of resources and Devs. It's dead, he is just covering himself
Ugh
@gritty elk Where's the private server big dawg
@gritty elk Despite the entire story, you never mention how this board came to be when your promise that you answered to no one was one of your core promises when you launched this project. Also, several members of your team came out, albeit anonymously, and heavily scrutinized your ability in managing the company. So I'm not sure about your categorical refusal in admitting mismanagement.
I call cap, Mans covering tracks
Are people actually believing anything he says lmfao
So yall just side with the investor turd who possibly ruined it? We can wait for actual facts before creating scenarios in our heads. Whoever did wrong will be held accountable
Ну че взбударажились активисты игры))? Щас начнется в чатах Он любит игру, хейтеры- он не может любить игру, Шариф - ДАА яя любблююю игрууу.
anyone else not able to log in?
Does anyone want to group up and form a guild? I heard this game had really good PvP and is the next big thing so I wanted to get in early and enjoy the journey! Please let me know as I'm pretty excited to give this game a try!

So is this game dead after recent post?
alright so there is still hope, lets go!!!
Rugged pulled
rugg pullll, we bought gift cards at the gas station and handed them to habibi over the phone.
Steven 😇
guys how can I donate to steven
I just can't see myself believing what he's trying to sell.
Is this game better than D4?
i read this shit steven wrote... and he constantly mentions something he always claimed doesnt exist... BOARD. I call bullshit on entire post.
I love boobies and simply want a new MMO TO PLAY wow is getting tiresome
Bro how is the IP "valuable"? It's one of the most generic and forgettable mmorpgs I've played...
DO NOT REDEEM
Penis
<@&542059693779058748> we need some bird law in here
UPDATE: My bank has agreed to refund my 75e preorder and 50e alpha key purchases that I made on year 2023 and 2024 from Interpid Studio's webstore (Non-steam purchase).
I made a claim for undelivered digital items as the preorder pack had lots of ingame items that never existed in game and reasoned since the company has shut down these items will never even be created.
For Alpha2 key I claimed misleading marketing due to promises of being able to play till launch which I had expected to be atleast a few years but the company shut down only months after alpha2 become playable and the product was not what was advertised.
Process took over a month and I had to provide them lots of documents, a proof that I have tried to contact Interpid about the refund before contacting my bank, recipts of my purchases, proof of false advertising (I used their kickstarter promises) and proof about company shut down (I used Stevens resigning announcement, Margaret's Reddit post and the WARN Notice interpid had received).
And with this, I can now happily stay in the discord and follow the drama 🙂
Ps. I'm still receiving e-mails from Interpid that they are busy with alpha2 launch but will handle my ticket as soon as possible.
Someone beat me to it while I was pressing buttons
Back to work. Ttyl
Ruined what? The game was fucking awful lol
AoC the best!
Plaintiff shall post a bond in the amount of $1,000 to all of us
If you got a package to play Ashes, then be happy, you already did =)
I don't think the game was that bad tbh but all the people still coping here should be studied
When patch
Haha belive more
I had a lot of fun in AoC, I liked the grindy leveling, open world pvp for grind spots, I made a lotta friends there. It was a good game
Same here.
Is it too late to start playing?
Lol no it wasn't. Even their own devs called it a scam that looked like it only had 2 years of real work after a decade.🤣
Here’s my take do with it what you will. I enjoyed the game and the time I spent playing it over Christmas and the friends I made along the way. I wouldn’t take back the time I spent and the friends I made in EBC (Now blunt force trauma or BFT) and proto gaming. I wouldn’t refund even if I had the option because of the hours I put into the game. I find it hard to believe that a guy who committed 10 years of his life and his on personal assets irl as collateral would try and scam a community he was actively engaged in and seemed to appreciate and value. That’s just me but I hope he wins the lawsuit and continues his dream. Glhf.
Should I buy this game?
yes!
Hold on ashes was in development for 10 freaking years?? Everything makes sense now
i mean yeah, i played it back in 2017/18 when they were in the battleroyale phase to test out combat etc xD
any tldr or vid?
Nice scam, what next?
The soap opera continues, the only thing that is certain is that players got fcked and fcked hard
godzilla had a stroke after reading this
steven at yalanı sikeyim inananı
Amen.
пидoр стивен
Oh the dupers make sense
It’s provable through court/public documents that there is a board, take off the tinfoil hat and come to terms with it 💀
mate... he said there is no board. Now all he is saying non stop is "boars board board". Why he lied in firstplace?
"there's a board" that board is suspiciously steven shaped
Where do I turn in the quest “riddance to rubbish”? Can’t find the guy in the starting area any more
bought this game a few weeks ago only played like 10 hours but im reading the companys a scam is this true? have i just wasted my money? lol
baahhahahahahahahahahahh
there was. Steven and the other side of both talked about it. lol
the questgiver was laid off too
J
If not Steven why Steven shapped
Is steven innocent?
I was interested in this game back in 2022, but the MMORPG market is just full of options, so I didn't bother paying for alpha access, and now after reading about how the owner paid himself millions of dollars, smh. I think he should be taken to court in a class-action from the community if he is found guilty of wrong-doing.
I can FEEL a new GME/BBBY population forming in the pits of the copium fueled discussions on this discord. Can't wait until people start trying to pull clues out of one word tweets or something.
I don't think Steven is being very genuine here. all his cherry picking confirms is that TFE cannot if injunction sell Trade secrets till WARN act stuff is fulfilled. Don't even think bro read his own court documents lmao
🤡 
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/casdce/3:2026cv00965/843873/20/
@gritty elk We appreciate what you and your team have done. I don't know about everyone, but I can read between the lines and know you and your team worked hard on this. It's just another case of a bunch of loser "daddy's boys" who never created anything in their life trying to steal from others using their parent's money. I hope you go hard and hold these people accountable.
can i get a refund if nothing i do can fix error 37 wtf
Just bought the game what’s a good beginner class recommendation?
This game truly lives up to its name - Ashes of Creation
when is the next dev live chat?
None at this time. Intrepid Studios are effectively defunct
IS the Game still online at this Point?
Forget this game
cant wait to play this piece of shit
🇯 🇪 🇸 🇺 🇸 🇮 🇸 🇰 🇮 🇳 🇬
Fax
Finally, is there any hope of a return?
I highly doubt it. Depends how long the courts take and if their is any cash flow left over.
I assume the name is already tarnished so finding employees may be tricky.
Though you never know. I would say another kickstarter and 9 years you may get what you want.
It might. Game has potential. Lawsuits might take a long time tho. Hope Steven wins it tho.
I would suggest rogue so you can sneak out of here
https://steamdb.info/app/4124950/charts/ do you guys think after lawsuits the leftover assets of aoc will end up in another game
yes you can fund AoC2 why not
game still running?
new kickstarter for lawyer fees, but yes
I miss the late night grinds after work especially when it’s a day off the next day.
Lol no. I wont be giving intrepid ( or whatever it morphs into) any money. But i would not be surprised if parts of AoC end up in some mobile cash grab
Is this game worth buying?
yes GOTY 2026
SOTY
GOTY? More like GOTTEEEEEE
.
Does anyone thinks that RIOT’s MMORPG might be like AoC 2.0?
They got enough "fuck it" money from all the tism kids buying skins. Or at least id think so, but apparently a lot of tism kids dumped money into skins on this game too
When Steven Brings back the game, which class should I pick? I really like ranged DPS
yes I can't wait to play it in 2055
ChatGPT, fully finance AOC and finish the game development, make no mistakes
if anything wow 2.0
i can wait, i bet must of the people in this discord cant they are old asf lmao
Are the servers down? Figured Id check today and couldnt get logged in.. didnt know if it was me, or if it was finally over.
servers are technically 'up', but in such bad need of a reboot most toons are in areas that are in 'down' areas meaning you can't log in
What's news?!
He wants your doge coin
So when does beta start now that the last alpha is done?
its time for aocbetacoin , i promise its not a scam
Hey so can i get my money back @gritty elk or are you and your husband to busy enjoying it together.
Hey Steve, I want my money back.
@frail vine @naive cobalt ask Robert Dawson.
It isn't that hard to educate yourselves.
Dawson is trying to steal your money.
P.S. - Don't spend money you aren't willing to lose and then cry about it. It shows us that you are irresponsible with your own money.
This game really flopped huh?
this thing still on
For $65 people are crying for refund like they didn’t enjoy the few months of the game.
Since people are eligble for a refund I dont see why wouldnt we take our money back and spend it on something we enjoy. It's free money.
"few months"? it was barely online and got sacked...
whats going on with the game when is it going to release
Tomorrow /s
AoC website down ? Woot woot .. naaaiiceee

What happened with game and developing currently?
How long have you been living in a cave? 😄 Steven mis-managed the company funds, investors got angry and took control, emplyees were kicked off, studio closed and the big guys are fighting over the scraps in court.
The game development is currently frozen until the court has given its decision and new developer will either continue development according to their vision or (more likely) just scrap the whole project.
regardless of who wins at this point a vast majority have stopped playing, the rest will most likely not spend any cash due to this. Either side will be forced to take out significant loans or funding to finish the game so instead they'll most likely sell it off to someone to recoupe previous losses to a degree
"Its already fully funded" ah the lies we were told.
And my next video will be why I never made any content about this game... 🤔
I was going too, but now I won't.
ahes of creation is the best game to come out since ark i hope some one actually takes it over.
You sure? They will comeback once it has a clear direction. It’s better than WoW. I agree they might decide to sell it hopefully not an Asian company cause they gonna introduce blockchain for sure and it’s gonna be a p2w. It’s already a P2W some guy bought rosarium pieces with real money.
Investors win, they resell it to hopefully recoupe lost funds exceeding 80m from what I've heard across YouTube and discord. Steven wins he's back to square one with no money and lots of debt, community and devs don't really trust him anymore so he's not gonna make it anywhere unless he gets new investors which I doubt will happen after this fiasco, so he'll most likely sell it as well. Either way I look at it both sides have screwed the pooch and it's only saving grace will be the hopes a good gaming studio will aquire it and not overly ruin it with microtransactions
Are you reading what everyone esle is telling you. Stop the cope. Game is done, dead gone
Honestly the sky is the limit for this game. I'm having so much fun right now, I can't wait until the next expansion comes out. Fire!
I have more faith in Dream World than I do in Ashes of Creation...Take that for what you will
Finally holidays! Who wants to make a group for OAK?
danm people still playing this game?????????
I don't need faith, I'm having a blast playing it right now. PVP is off the charts. Love these class combos too!
hard cope

Is this game still running?
running on discord only
Did they pull the plug on the game?
Why can't we log in?
u guys are such cucks i swear
Nah Game working, Servers overloaded
🫡
did they get sued?
I quit the game because I came in here at launch with questions of the choice of game design on the EA I was barraged with toxicity and hate. The community was dead long before the game I quit same day and just heard the game is closing.
Maybe I’m just selfish but for me it feels like justice.
F this community and the devs seem to be shady individuals or don’t really have any true love for games to begin with.
Most of the toxic ones are broke in real life. Talking shit spending $65 and crying for a refund 🤣
While I get your point, why are you still here? Are you wanting your shot at spewing toxicness and hate? God loves you and Jesus payed the ultimate sacrifice for your sins, be happy for that. If you need a friend to talk to, I’m here.
refund?
everyone that bought into this got fucked!
are the servers still up , i need deliver some crates
rip to all the janitors who made guilds / guild discords for this lmao
Most of whom put any effort trying to get a refund already got one. Me included and I pre-ordered this 2023.
how did you requested refund outside of steam?
@dense tusk Ask the organization that handles the payment method you used and provide them with enough evidence to support your claim. Customs and rules may vary between contries but atleast in EU customer protection is pretty good.
Ashes website was taken down last week so might be slightly harder to find some information now.
maybe website was taken down just because of this^^
Bummed about what happened. What could have been.
Its about how far in the past your purchase was. I have asked the company whom provided the payment and they told me: If ur order is more than 180 days ago, they can´t refund it. And because of they took the site down, the chances are pretty low to get your money back.
Really sad that there are a lot of scammers out there who takes your money and disappear.
Check for future: Only invest your money in games, that are actually out or that has even an active early access on steam.
Whens beta guys?
so is this game actually just doa?
This game will rise from the Ashes
lies.
so hows the game? Everyone enjoying ashes?
you're joking right?
Hi guys
more like MIA
While it sucks the game closed, I still, enjoyed my 240 hours in game. Quit complaining, find another game.
ashes of damnation 😮 ashes of no creation
Pple can’t tell it’s a joke even when it hits them in the face 😂 😅
Same bro and I didn’t even reach 200 hours. For me when I started AoC it was better than when I started WoW and FF14.
I thought all employees were immediately fired? who had the time and would care to immediately implement restrictions on discord and reddit and etc to try to manipulate the content? Was It you Steve? oh ok makes sense now. I played ashes steam for 500 hours if anyone wants to say im some shill who hates the game - I will still meme it tilll the end of the earth because from all evidence apparently the creator is a scum bag.
All evidence? Or just the evidence you're willing to believe?
Hi I’m new sorry, did a different studio pick up the game or was that clickbait?
Nah. Legal stuff still ongoing
Anybody on here play ESO
I used to. But I stopped playing around Flames of Ambition DLC and nowdays just log in occasionally to check how their latest updates have looked like .
is this games servers even still on
yes, last time i checked
No, servers and website are down.
I don't know who the current "custodian" is. But I think it is the judge/court. At least until the lawsuit is over.
6/20/2026
lol there’s no beta coming
Any news?
How much did you put in to the game? Stop crying if you only spent $65 and crying for a refund. Don't buy an EA game when you're broke.
LFG anyone wanna group — didn’t realize game is closed
happens to the best of us, btw coffeezilla was looking for people that bought ashes of creation: http://youtube.com/post/UgkxubvcFoGXQuaKjCi-9NFZTwU5fjZR0sKr?si=xFKlQbw-e34aEP5a
Yo when does the game came out? this year right?
You must be a secret homosexual? Now that you mention someone’s manhood and imagining it down your throat hahaha. Don’t worry your mom still loves you but your wife hates you and likes being cuck for sure, if you’re in New York send her to me, I can give her some good pounding
hahaha. Stop crying for $65 🤣
^ are you stevens secret account to yell at people?
Imagine not using PayPal and getting your money back.
Steven has sent a flex emote in the news channel last night😗 I guess he got some good news at the court?
any news? servers restarted?
Iam confused too
TRO is still in effect. The court declined TFE the motion to remove TRO. So TFE is in limbo right now. Which is better for people hoping that Ashes will continue and won't get sold off to some company that will make it a blockchain game. I know a certain company in Asia has take interest into AoC last December but no official reports yet just some rumors. I really hope this game won't fall into their hands. Some people just don't know the feeling playing a pay-to-win game against server WHALES. WHALES are people who spend $1000 minimum per day, what is money paper only for these guys.
Yeah I am not really against p2w, but i still like more grinding for my strenght then just paying it out.
Okay Ty for the answer ^^ Sounds crazy af
THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT GAME WHERE CAN I BUY IT
Ill gladly take control of the game. I only have $14, but I promise ill do great things for it!
I'm sure you will find many willing people to contribute with the costs in here if you take over the development 🙂
Ya can’t do much worse than what has already been done. shrugs
that is what im thinking
when can i get my money back i heard if its off steam
get fucked
jack off in one hand and pray in the other and see which one fills up first
hey how do i find guilds to play with
@mortal ibex a7a neek
This is a fun soap opera ngl
yall ready for the next playtest? gonna be hype
they didnt close server still?
there is a same game title, 2 months old
Eldegarde, shutdown shortly after, but the dev have directly communicated with steam and worked with their team to expand the refund eligibility window.
---_
and what Ash of Creation is doing, ultimately makes everyone else that support and trust the game ineligible for this.
edit: Yes, im not a cult follower, and did you know steven mentioned justice and accountability on reddit reply?
im not taking anything he said seriously at this point, because even IF Steven had all the rights and wanted to continue with the development, who is going to work on that? I doubt that any of the former employes would want to return and after the rugpull. Outsource it? Who will want to finance that anyway? The reputation is in the gutters.
Bro if you support and trust the game for $65 you’ll leave it as it be. Game has a chance to relaunch. Best alpha I’ve ever played. Some other people who spent $500 to support this game didn’t even bother to ask for a refund.
some clowns think that they are funny
So innovative that joke
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
I don’t believe the game will ever re launch however I do agree that this was the most fun beta I’ve ever had with a mmo
Still in alpha I think bro. Beta release was supposed to be this month I think then the lawsuit happen. Some games got to relaunch why not AoC when it's on alpha stage. That's why I chose not to refund it might be more expensive to buy the base game if it gets to a full game launch. People will play this game no matter what reputation it has, it's like an itch that needs to be scratch. I played Cleric last alpha, was eyeing for Shadow Disciple. I already have 18 keybinds to press lol didn't have fun on an mmo games in quite some time. Let's hope lawsuit goes Steven's way cause I don't want non-gamers to handle this game they will sold it to a company that will make it a blockchain game. TFE said there's a buyer already? It's not gonna be RIOT I tell you.
You need to go check yourself.
this had so much potential. yall have a great one.
agreed its more clear now then ever how good of a game ashes was, friends and guild mates are still missing the game this long after what happened including myself. I'd come back in a second no hesitation nothing will ever hit the way ashes did im convinced.
Mmmm… good job bud 🤙
Look guys "my first discord" showed up
That was the easiest/fastest discord ban I've ever reported. Got removed immediately 😆
Which game comes out first with a full release , ashes of creation or star citizen ?
shrek 6
GTA VII
seeing how this game is dead and its devs abandoned it? Star Citizen. speaking of start cit we are geting the 4.7 update today. though i wonder if the star cit devs will run off with the money just like the ashes of creation devs did
SC the best SCAM game ever
at least it didn't shut down
I need my money back scammers
just wondering what going to happen to this server
Hope no one minds me attempting to add my two cents to the conversation. i had decided to give some money towards this game when it was announced, got some underwater themed skins and whenever the Alpha Key access was offered. i had high hopes for this game, but then they decided to upgrade to UE5, and i knew at that point the game was dead. Probably for the best, i'd much rather go out into the wilderness and get beat by a ??? enemy than get teleported seemingly randomly, of what i saw of footage before the servers went down. I held hope that this was still going to pull through foolishly. i have no idea if i can get my money back. Lost alot more in ways i had no chance to recuperate.
If you were a Kickstarter you will not see any money returned to you, i too was a Kickstarter in 2018 and I wont see anything in return because technically it did go live even as an alpha because it was on Steam.
if it does re launch other games like archage if im spelling that right and chrono will already have all of the players attention and as seen before the numbers of the game arent high .
I was looking into both of those ones but AA has little to no PVP element so it's gonna be boring. Chrono Odyssey might be good. AoC is better than those 2, base on the concept since it has 64 classes, race will have effect on your toon, the built of your toon's body will have impact like if your toon is taller and longer arms would have better reach, the story background too will affect your content.
Steven will rescue us
🥸👀
I’m not looking forward to AA much tbh but I will definitely enjoy chrome odssey , however I think all games of this branch will fail without a good marketing or monetization because truth be told 100k people buying a 40$ game only covers about half a year of rent for that development , it’s why new world shut down and why I still worry for this industry
Yup they need to add subscriptions per month or some kind of top up method like for example I once played a game called RAN ONLINE it’s an old school mmorpg released in 2004 it was mostly SouthEastAsia region game but it was alive for 15 years, servers went down in 2019. They only do card top ups so people can buy cosmetics and something called ROSARY so that items don’t get dropped when the toon dies. If they have subscriptions for every month I think they would still be around. Most are now private servers playing like a battle royale. I don’t know if WoW has top up cards to pay for cosmetics and certain accessories that are expirable but WoW survive since it was released globally and has monthly subs even if content is recycled. Imagine AoC would do something like that like an expirable cosmetics or shit even an expirable flying mount that has a certain speed lower than the mayors and say mount lasts for 48 hrs, people will be paying just to experience the fun flying around Verra.
how do i buy this game
you can't, it's been ccancelled
Fwb chat me
So servers are downed? I cant entrance into game - Unexpected error, enviroment not found. VPN doesnt help too
Yes, they are down and most likely will never come back up. RIP another mmo down to the graveyard.
oh shit did something happen?
When Steven wins it’ll be back but he needs to pay the employees first.
Steven will be lucky to get even a third of the workforce back. They're hardly going to sit around unemployed waiting for all this legal stuff to settle.
lot of them already got new jobs...several went to riot @worldly junco haha some of those crypto games actually do well...especially the ones using gaming nft's...the main nft market may have died, but gaming nft's are still going pretty strong...players actually make decent money with them.
Yup and Riot’s gonna catch up to them in 10 years so I might as well have AoC back for the mean time, I would still play AoC even if it becomes a blockchain game with cryptocurrency, already spent 8grand on a game before, made over a shy of 10grand selling my acct then played AoC. New razorsharp devs who want to prove something might want to work for Intrepid.
@bright grove yeah bro get out when you’re up that’s the trick of those ones. Try to be an asshole on a server make them chase you and the whales will buy you off. Once you sold all your accounts unless you’re having fun but for me I’m good and won’t be ever touching any blockchain games in a while but AoC on the other hand I smell something fishy. That’s why I’m keeping faith on Steven since TFE is shady they’re all business. Imagine people here crying for $65 wait till they spend more than $1000 just to codex a toon. Multiply it to 8 toons lol
This game dead yet?
yeah
Servers offline?
fr?
About those situation i know but i didnt know about servers shutdown currently
considering Steam says there’s only 4 people online I do wonder if the servers are down too
Bots I think
6 whole people an hour ago!
Alright!!!
So I believe it doesn't need me to login to the server, just getting to the "searching for realms" screen.
- Why are you still here? That really doesn't even make sense, not even on a troll level based on what you said and the rigor in which you stated them.
- Steven was naive, yes, but not stupid. I want to play "We all believe you" so lets work this out, logically. You stated "He admitted to lying to you. Repeatedly. Publicly. Intentionally." - Where? When? If that is true and he admitted to it, then we are talking about a lot more than civil court. Show your work and how you arrived at that point.
Cuck#256090 waiting.
honestly i just want a great game. something to call home. Steven is the best way to get that done. Also, you have alot of facts wrong in this long paragraph. Some of which has already been proving wrong in court. But just let the court stuff play out. If were luckly, eventually we will get a great game out of this.
i just wanna kill some crabs again jeez 👌
Warcraft welcomes you back
im already missing the open world pvp and no other game scratches that itch like we had it (yes i know there are other mmos out there with open world pvp but they all shite tbh)
Same, that was a good way to increase my reputation!
626 hours in Ashes
At least 40 hours of Crabs 🦀 and community service helping randoms level up
How is he the best way to get that done. It's been a decade and the game was still incomplete. It's not even the same game as before. Then they finally drop the price from It's ridiculous starting price to something reasonable for steam and them disappear. It's a scam.
Today is the day! ☝️
even if everything went swimmingly, asia server is 100%guaranteed to not exist.
give up already, another L for the genre
it would be historic if it came back...like the bird on its logo..That would be a hell of a story
Asia server will be the most populated server if it will exist.
Court is in session...
I will update you on any news when it becomes available 
https://discord.gg/fve7M2Bjp4 Just go play the new myth seasonal standalone client xP
didn't steven lose? seeing it all over twitter atm
⚠️ News from the Docket ⚠️
- No Cause to issue Preliminary Injunction
(No more Restraining Order) - DENIED Disqualifying Schwartz Lawers
- Defendant must file a response to "The Complaint" by 4/23/2026
Court will continue as normal. Just not an emergency restraing order anymore.
REHOK,,you said you was playing Epitome,,it says it's not out yet,,was wanting to check it out??
miss aoc badly 🙁
Are you guys enjoying AOC, as much as i am, right now?!
honestly, the game is in the most bug free state we've ever had it!
The game is not p2w right?
what game?
@gritty elk When release pls?
lol
The untold myth. @gritty elk we believe in you
I was hoping he would win but people were talking that there might be a buyout. This game might be played between mobile and pc. It won't comeback in Steven's vision but it'll be back just ready your wallet you might be addicted to codex your toon 🙂
its not out cuz to play u had to pay on kickstarter, but its disappointing at best... mechanically feels like metin, but in monster hunter world, which is disaster
I still miss this game so much, that itch can’t be found anywhere else tbh, I tried a bunch of stuff, but Ashes was really doing it for me. A big shout out to the dev team for this awesome game, hopefully we’ll see it back in the future ❤️🔥
What about the money people spent in game for skins, they will return it
who's gonna tell him
Alright, I figured I would give it a shot finally. I backed the game in the original kickstarter, but figured I'd wait a bit. I'm bored of LOTRO. So time to give this game a go. Any social guilds/communities recruiting?
RaiderZ Global bro try it, it’s a private server tho but much same as ashes where you can play as hybrid class hut you can do it from the early levels.
@silk lodge same honestly it was one of a kind game
When is the next dev live chat? any updates on fishing?
Its official. I am purchasing the IP. All they wanted was $5,000 and a signature on some kind of document about release of liability? Oh yeah, Steven is amazing.
then sell to gamigo for 10mil
nah, microsoft for 500M
are the servers down
Hope Valve is intereseted in investing in an mmo.
Just play an archeage private server
theres not a single decent one... all the privates that are kind of popular right now, are broken in few different ways, most disgusting one is server owner playing in top 1 guild 😂
Why play a flatscreen mmo when you can play a VRMMO
Try RaiderZ Global
I play everyday.
so steven lost his case right?
and valve add loot boxes to it
I wish we can loot someone’s gear if we pk them.
Not the California court case. The Nevada court didn’t grant whatever Steven was looking for in stymying the TGE guys.
this game have summons?
You meant the mounts? Yeah
it did, lol
summoner, best class ❤️
SERVERS UP??
Where steven?!?!?!? he run with me money!!! give back!!!1
Im not surprised. Steven really fucked himself with how he structured this. Rule #1 in fundraising is never give away equity to MLM investors to fund your company
My 1st toon was a summoner but I find Clerics more fun with micromanagement in a raid.
Month 3 of waiting for the update on ashs of creation no word yet but I have hope 😜
Might come back with a crossplatform between mobile and pc haha
Careful what you wish for
so that they could be reviewbombed?
this is very unlikely, who will want to finance that anyway? another kickstart/crowdfund? 
TFE said "a buyer is already lined up" they might get lowballed on the buyout offer if it's from NA or EU but the companies that are willing to buy an unfinished game will be somewhere in Asia but the thing is they gonna finish the game the way they want it and will be made a blockchain game. Companies might be willing to pay $200mil and profit double or triple on the buyout price.
Reviewbombed? It's a game, people will still play it especially whales who can spend $100 a day haha.
I asked for refund, but I got my money's worth.
I didn’t refund since it’s only $65 and I had fun even tho I played for less than 2 weeks. If they ever do another kickstart I will buy the package with a lifetime subscription. I won’t be broke or richer putting some money into a game.
so reading thru alot of the court items and statements. I'm just curious @gritty elk are you or John worried this might find its way to other legal proceeding outside of civil courts? I read your most recent statement about the court ruling, they did not find the foreclosure unlawful, there was actually no ruling on the foreclosure. I agree not exactly above board or by the book, but by discovery you appear to have a hand in some of that also, correct?
I’ll be making a statement later tonight once approved by counsel.
With links to the filings and exhibits.
How much longer must we wait to play Ashes of Creation again? It is an amazing game. From a player in the Chinese community.
is later on tonight like 1 week from yesterday or like a month just woundering
Stevens version of the story is really interesting to read (Steven posted it on Reddit)😗 Best advertisement campaign ever if the game get back on its feet.
Going through these, I'm still not convinced Steven was particularly good with handling the money, but he has been honest in his attempts to create an MMO the gamers would love and had his employees best interest in mind. The board really had no idea what to expect from the game development and had no respect for the employees. All they see is money and expenses. With a board like that, Ashes would have definietly flopped as an unimpressive, disappointing cash grab MMO.
@gritty elk I wonder what you will do with AOC as a product? Are you planning to sell it, or you will continue to development if the court decide you are innocent and if you have funds and will to develop it? Or it will be throwed to the bin?
Thanks for putting all the information on the table for everyone to read.
the guy has spoken
hi when does this game release 
I ain't clicking on a sus PDF from Steven of all people
it will never
Frfr
Don’t click that link lmao
😭
i aint reading no pdf mf if its not a yes its probably a 20 page no
Tf happen, why ppl getting sued
nobody cares, you said there is no board for years and then there actually was a board. You lied then and you are lying now
Stop pinging the games already dead
Our money is in Steven’s MTG binder
Risky click of the day
I hope Steven at least made some cool edh decks not no atraxa shit
The games not coming back yall coping
That statement doesn’t address the publicly disclosed financials. At the very least apologize for financial negligence
If by some chance AoC comes back,
It will truly be the Greatest redemption story surpassing NMS.
But let's be honest, that's a big & doubtful "IF"
Can you just let a korean studio finish the game? It will take them 1 year and it will finally be playable
Well you would still need money for developers. Which they likely don’t have
Someone tell Steven to Shut The Fuck Up
Wow killer
@gritty elk sybau
Feel bad if dude really had his creation ripped from him …..
lmfao
just let it die ffs
Since this game is not coming out and I own the product and not receiving my money back am I able to make a private server for the game?
I love how people say this but have stayed in the discord since all of this started.
The solution, and answer for you… Leave the discord if you don’t want to hear about it. Most people that are still here, are here to collect more information.
Pretty simple concept.
"there's no board, it's just me"
AoC is no hytale
I just want the game to be finished one day
@gritty elk i just wanna play AoC again
Steven can you buy me a house
Do if Steven wins. Does this mean AoC is back on the table and will progress going forward?
Honestly, I wonder why he even bothers to update. Lies have been uttered and all that is left is a legal rope pulling contest. Sure that might influence his life. - but let's admit it AOC is dead in the water. Had there be no Investors, we wouldn't have been in this mess. We would have just been in another milk your audience for money shituation.
Based on the document that would be the plan, but honestly the public opinion is sooooo screwed that it's going to be extremely hard to gain momentum again. Though if they pull it off it would be like 2nd comming of Jesus Christ :kekw:
If Steven even just refunded me by buying me doordash for lunch today I'd be fine with that
Holy shit guys, we may be alive, to bad he played with our all trust, Steam didn't accept my refund, we may looking into it once more
I wanted so badly for this game to be a thing but in the end it was incompetence once again that screwed it over. Also mods if you think I can't see the messages that you deleted of people being rightfully upset you are full of it.
Damn, you think there are actual people still modding here with all the penises being spammed and it's not the automod
were's mah gold scarab
Alright I’m here. How do I download the game?
@gritty elk my balls are itchy do you have any advice on what to do?
In short, what's going on with the game right now? Who's to blame—Sharif, the board of directors, or everyone scamming each other as best they could?
Quite often the human condition prevails over any well-intentioned philanthropic principles.
in other words, people cannot help but line their own pockets, when they have the power and opportunity to do so.
你应该把蛋蛋放在脑袋样.这样子比较可爱一点呢
I'll just finish making RiftForged solo. It may not be a traditional MMO with gathering etc but it is being actively worked on and updated with a free live technical Alpha.
Best of luck waiting for Ashes!
Also, if you don't understand what free means you may want to look into it. Hard to call someone out when they already have a something you can test for free.
And no, my name is not Steven - it is Brinn Heseltine - and unlike Steven there are exactly 0 people I owe money to for assets, work, or development.
Welcome to my Ted Talk
@gritty elk How much was your salary from this project? Not income from things before. Not a legal jargon response. What was your gross and net salary at the end of the year. How much did you pay yourself annually for a game that wasn’t even finished yet.
that's something you will find out from official documents once they are in court
Lol ya'll stressing over what dude is doing/getting. Is it really that serious for you to care that much though?
I don’t see the problem with that question though?
Hi everyone, nice to meet you all! Really looking forward to this game 😄
hi all! where tf is my refund 😁
any refunds?
no
Will be very hard. But if he can prove innocents in court. That itself is a start. There’s always hope no matter how bleak something may appear. Look at fallout 76 it actually has a health supportive players base now. Swtor also has a healthy player base now. Even Runescape and Old school RuneScape are alive today to which for people who don’t know the story behind it’s making as a loooong shot in the dark. A game developed under the name devious Mud. Made by one man and his brother that started this game on a giant tube monitor screen on old tech that probably had a 500mgb ram setup. Could no longer afford to keep his game running that only had maybe a hundred or so people playing it stated he would have to charge a subscription to financially keep it running for only $5 a month or he would be force to shutdown as he was keep the server up using his own money getting nothing in return going broke doing so….people actually started paying the subscription it kept the game alive long enough for Andrew Gower to make updates to progress the game which drew in more people and more people meant it started to turn a profit and now today Jagex is known world wide ironically a big staple in the MMO genre that started out as a simple 2D side scrolling game developed by two brothers.
to bad.. it was a fun game
i'm willing to pay subscription only to play this game
question for anybody, if you already own the game, are the servers still up?
no
sad
Bring back the damn game! @gritty elk
@gritty elk is there any chance the servers are comming back online?
I mean at this point…he just needs to let it play out in the court system. “Defending” himself does nothing especially if the court case doesn’t go in his favor.
Either way it will probably be a long road till anyone see either a restored version of Ashes of Creation or if it just turns to dust.
I’m not sure if Steven is watching but it would be in his best interest to not respond to people online, this includes Discord
someone should tell that to Caramanis
just bought this game how do i log in
If the servers are down, 100% not coming back 🙁 Glad I didn't back this 10 years ago though...I wonder if we can get a private server going?
sell it to china
Ok so what’s the update , how cooked are we
ive really enjoyed ashes a long time since i found an mmo i actually enjoyeds playing
nice profile pic, fits your name alpha
Have you guys tried Pantheon? Theres a big Spring Patch and a fresh start wipe coming in a month or two, gonna be fun on a bun 🙂🙂🙂
Lul Pantheon. Not that desperate, brotha.
Anyone know any good MMOs to play?
Or any multiplayer games in general
Negative, MMOs seem to be in a bit of a "whacky" state rn.
OSRS for MMO and Valheim for multiplayer
when is Ashes coming out? been away for a minute
i miss flirting with hot elf babes in my node
my exp bar is low
Its pretty darn good though tbh, far from complete, but a lot of fun. 🙂
But the big patch that's coming is bringing a fresh start wipe with it so for anyone interested its a good time to give it a try. 🙂
Osrs is as MMO as retail wow. Literally single player games
is this game still alive xd
The game was already good. I haven't enjoyed any other game this much in years. And it doesn't matter who stole how much money. It doesn't even matter who owns the project anymore. I just want to return to that world, and preferably as soon as possible.
hey guys can’t wait to see you all in game
any news??
whos the jerkoff giving the devs a hard time, i just want new mmo
Negative
You monster:(
Mwuhahaha
holly crap the devs where earning 2000 monthly on california, bro i want my money back
letsog
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Has hunting been fixed yet or is it still clicking a deer?
From the ashes rose the creation….the creation has burned to ashes…such is the cycle of life.
Fresh start? New server? New bug new scam or what?
Just join Archeage Classic for that MMO experience!
People stop recommending other bullshit games we want Ashes of Creation.
There's no way you still gave hope right? Surely
Nothing wrong with having hope, even if the game doesn't deserve it
steven said he'd make me a special turtle mount to represent how long and slow ashes development is going
This game still worth trying ?
And wanted to try and find guild did the serves come back up
EU or US ?
well i stillcan not long into my account is it still down?
theoretically - yes
practically - no, because you cant
Sad though, wish they would let it go, and someone makes a shard of it
i mean the new owners said tehy wanna finish teh game
best think what can happend this game is sell to the Korean or Chineese Developer to make it finish in 3 years . otherwise forget about 64 diff archetypes and stufs like that . West only wrap it up and release how is it now with small changes and patches . Nobody will have enough resources to continue developing this project as Interpid planed 😄
better 8 eu archetipes then 64 chines )))) u will have weapon=class system, donate shop, fast trevel, flight mount for every one and etc. so u can play any of asian sh*t without selling ashes )
Ayo 😳 <@&542059693779058748>
We want this game to come out of the ashes of creation!!!!!
Pun intended
Trash end game anyways. Right @spring scarab ?
What game?
Oh you were the guy who threw a tantrum when Ashes wasn't planning to have the same system as DAOC xdd
thats a name I haven't seen in quite some time
Yea, just have to pay $60 per level, and $80 to unlock the last 3 archetypes
🥲
Ashes plz comeback
Why game doesnt start?
I can’t be the only one who’s fed up with this. There’s barely any solid MMORPG left on the market, and I’m honestly tired of checking Discord channels and AoC news every single day for nothing.
At this point, shouldn’t we actually take action instead of just waiting? Why not start a global petition and make some noise? Even if it doesn’t directly change anything, at least it would show how many people are tired of waiting and actually care.” We’ve waited long enough. Either we do something now… or we just sit back and keep watching.
Ye rip to ashes, even if steven wins by a landslide I doubt we'll see anything for quite a long time. This court stuff could take years to hash out, then after that he'd have to revive/find new investors for company ect... hope he can bring back his team or find replacements
Riot MMO is gonna be our savior
Surely, that cant go wrong
hi guys , is it a good time to jump in ?
Last I herd, that was canceled
is ashes down?
not expected till 2030
The yap is strong with dis one
WWWWooooooooowwwwwwwwww
Shut up, a new episode of my SUITS spinoff just dropped
deleting comments now, really?? mods here are as guilty as Steven and the rest of the fraudters in charge of this scam
i don't have enough legal literacy for this. why on earth is there a 6 hour message cooldown??? damn. guy who replied to me got fucking censored!!
I haven't had this much court drama since Activision Blizzard acquisition or Amber Heard trial. 2026 sure is interesting
Steven and intrepid have clearly been taken advantage of and in they eyes of everyone its his fault, people need to wake up he clearly cares
gize don’t worry, my father is the judge for the intrepid case. i’ll make sure that aoc comes back from the ashes
Hi.
Hello folks I’m new here, when’s the game coming out?
Cool story bro. Tldr gimme a refund.
when my shits purple and smells like rainbow sherbet?
Hello
@gritty elk I read your post but my issue is and many other is you still have yet to answer why you lied to us about not answering to a board. Maybe they didn't supervise a ton but yiu still did not have final say when you made the community believe you did
Dam it’s really gone huh?
I'm tentatively excited for the riot MMO when it comes out. It seems like they have really big plans.
And I'm looking forward to MMOs with AI built into some systems.
Wens wipe?
Hows is Ashes doing today ? Took a long break is it worth returning to or is it all messed up with the court going on ?
How's server status?
Having a 3rd party receiver appointed by the court is a fair and logical thing to do if both sides say they are right. I hope the court does the right thing and appoints a receiver - it harms nothing but the bad guy.
Still going strong 🥲
something that could of been a great mmo just kicked in the nuts lol
How long till you get banned
Does anyone else get the vibe that Steven is just setting this all up for a book....
didn't he say he was threatened and was supposed to stay silent about things?
i get where Steven is coming from, you cant change the debt to ownership and say there is still the debt, but I dont believe they all moved to equity, Jason's i believe. but with that said the company is stll insolvent, the board is not required to give more money out of their private pocket. so still no money to pay the employees, bank loan, fed loan, server bill. this was just so miss managed. it appears certain people were living a bit of the highlight and the bill came due, surprised it too this long and NO MMO Game should take 10 years and 112 million just to get to Alpha. a fc sale might not happen, but steven quit and is no longer an equity holder. a BK may as well take place and be done
In Steven We trust!
he did say, it was in one of his posts, the back and forth with the court.... damn... read dude... @marsh bane
are the servers still up ?
only one way to find out
🐳
servers are up boys log in
brother you're playing quinfall
Why would Steven say it was fully funded by him and even claimed there was no board? It kinda sucks if it’s true that he lied, especially since I helped fund the game 😭
Well, I’m not defending him but maybe it was since the investors were sending the money to Steven and he was investing said money into the project? It’s semantics but it’s kind of telling the truth
It was Steven's business decision. I'm not a business man, but even at a low level, I know you need to take decisions that are hard. Everyone keeps crying about how they weren't informed about what was happening behind, but in reality, financially, we as community played just a small part. we were more the validation side, the proof that the game is wanted, needed in these times. I see time and time this mention about how he lied about self funded, like everything else doesn't matter. Always easier from the blaming side, with a minimal effort.
It always goes back to the idea that it’s easy to judge a world they did not create.
The fact is no one here knows the truth. Looking at it from small points of views.
All it takes is for one Shepard to wave his hand and they follow willingly.
It costs nothing to have faith in what we believe in. Those who go against it at the will of others lack faith and the conviction to stand up for what they believe.
I would not give them the time of day.
Although I see and agree to your point to an extent, I dont think i would had originally backed it on KS if I didnt think it was already fully funded. So to me it was a major piece of the puzzle. I may have still followed and played it, however i wouldnt had invested in the game as much as i did otherwise. People absolutely have the right to be upset about it, but also they should take all the truth in and stop just blame piling one side.
你欠邻居 10 万块,邻居说:“钱不用还了,把你房子的 51% 所有权给我就行。” 你同意了(债转股)。
结果第二天,邻居利用那 51% 的话语权签了个字,说:“昨天的协议改了,那 51% 股份我收下了,但这 10 万块钱你还是得还我!”(债务复活)。
你当然还不起,邻居顺理成章地说:“既然还不起钱,剩下的 49% 房子也归我了,你给我卷铺盖走人。”(非法收割)。
@gritty elk Dude, i completly understand that you got lied to and screwed by the docs and statements. I just wish you actually self funded this project like you said, and that these people werenot involved at all. You kinda invited the wolf into your house here.
Man I miss this game. It was the most fun I had ever playing an MMO and it was so far from its potential. I don’t know what kind of a miracle it would take to bring it back but I hope it does. Guess I’ll check back every 6 months to see if anyone won this lawsuit yet xD
I wish one of these updates would finally address the fact the board exists
To be perfectly honest. I resonate with intrepid. Might have different examples but it's still the same. A story of betrayal and someone putting their heart into something, just to be betrayed.
It’s the update before this one. The first question in the QnA
is the game actually possible to play right now? Like are servers up?
(i don't care about the court and etc)
Hoping the best for the future of this game, it was an amazing creation and I could tell a lot of passion went into it. @gritty elk keep us up to date the best you can.
If the game does come back, I get that beetle mount for participating in the stress test, yeah? lol 😜
Anyone who doesn’t trust Steven should leave the community.
If you don’t trust anything Steven does, there’s no reason to stay active in the community.
I just wana play ashes again 😢 was one of the only mmo I loved in recent time
I might have more trust, If I hadn't been trying to get some sort of support because I was locked out of the game ever since the switch to Steam happened. I had been dealing with support saying either "we totally sent you the recovery email" or "that email isn't tied to any accounts (even after I sent receipts)" for weeks all while they were still spamming the email account with you haven't switched account to Steam yet emails. when the big hullabaloo dropped in January
Steam didn't refund me 🙁
Refunded my friend I got the game for but told me I had too many hours logged 🤣
Classic me to miss the update I'm waiting for lmao. GL with everything.
⚠️⚠️ NEWS ⚠️⚠️
- We are waiting for May 19th as the next court date
This will not make the final decision either. . . Sorry 😩
Something new with court?
meh not really, prolly be at least 2-5 years before we see any affirmative actions by the court
@gritty elk you got this brotha get your baby back
So you mention your said it was founder led which means you didn't lie... but why have we seen many videos of you saying you literally don't answer to a board.
Knowing youre ommiting something you know people won't like is still a lie.
Also im a backer or the game not just a random that joined after the hate
I wanted this game to be a thing but inless you come out and don't act like people are stupid its gonna be a uphill battle even if you do reclaim it
@gritty elk Hope ur well big dog, ashes was the first time in a long time that i had the since of discovery and fun with my small group of friends, hope the bastards that killed it get the justice they deserve. and this project "rises" from the ashes.
thanks for the updates.
Ty my friend
@gritty elk I'll keep lurking. Final Fantasy 14 had to burn everything to the ground and rebuild; this could become an incredible story to rise from Ashes.
Let's have due process bring out the truth.
And if there's a world where AoC comes back at the end of this, make sure to reward those players that stood by you to the end. A character cosmetic to know they believed in a dream.
Good luck.
Are the servers still up?
This makes no sense
wasnt the board established in 2024? did he really spam about not having a board after that?
idk man. i just feel if you dont tell people what you know people will have an issue with it feels just as dirty. If i base something around not doing something and then do something and not tell people that feels dirty. either way i guess. Im not saying steven is completely in the wrong these other dudes seem like the mafia. hopefully if he gets it back he will find a way to make a mends. theres 0 options for MMOS right now
you sound like the type of person that says stop arguing semantics when semantics matters. He technically was telling the truth people just don't like the nuance
@gritty elk you know we just need one news, if we will have one last ride or if its over
Content creators are about to EAT
does that long post mean ashes of creation might come back one day? Had a lotta fun when it was live 🙁
so glad back in 2020 I decided to stop buying games until their fully released can't scam me KEKW
AOC 2027 HYPE lets goooo!
So game not dead?
Undertones of someone caring what other people do with their money, you’re not better than someone else because you chose to spend your money elsewhere - hop off the high horse
Remember when we were told there is no board and steven is the sole owner
W
Brings me back to the good ole days of Chronicles of Elyria 😄
litigation is going to take months most likely 1-2 years, look at dark n dark or myth of empires
Touch grassssssssss
game back when?
When do I get my money back?
Ayyy
The game definitely isnt going to recover after this 😂
Phoenix wright dlc just dropped
The lawyers will get your money. Idk which sides lawyers, but definitely one of them.
I just perordered the AoC new DLC
Imma need my $40 @gritty elk
So a lot of y'all were wrong I guess. Damn time to eat crow.
Let’s go Steven
Idc anymore I just want my money back for the game I can’t play.
I'm ready for aoc let's go.
If this isn't used in the marketing for the game when it's back that'd be a shame. From the ashes of legal hell AOC was reborn.
Open the gates
As wild as it all is, I was genuinely just enjoying the casual sand box and would’ve really loved to continue playing
The arc of this legal storyline is just too fitting with the name of this game. 😎 I’ll be here when you win Steven, and hopefully we see a reemergence phoenix-like when it’s all over.
Let's get it back up!!
Is it too late to get my alpha two access badge rank whatever its called
We should all make out
You sound broke 🤡😭
So is Steven the good guy now or..?
Nothing is good in this entire debacle. It's all just really unfortunate.
just let me know when I need to dust it off again boys, I got capes to make.
What the actual fack
HUGE
Pretty clear now that Rob Dawson & Co are typical private equity snakes that saw a juicy product and went for it. This stuff happens all the time and it sucks that Steven got got. People make mistakes and this one let AoC get dragged out back and plundered.
Damn mods are hunting 😳
I would like to start a crowd funded game and then use that funding to buy nazi memorabilia and $200k on papa John's door dash. Can anyone help me with this?
I say get the woodchippers! And beer for us.
I Guess since I can't chat until 6 hours I'll leave this for anyone else to read.
Steven's character was never in question to me. He was always a gamer at heart. You couldn't be one if you've played D&D for 24 hours straight, AND a charitable heart!!! It's was so obvious that those guys were the bad guys. Also he was the DM you can't do that without the love and PREP you need to for a game.
Another Edit:
Steven, if you see this. Good job man, glad your name was cleared. Also take all their money. ALL OF IT! Leave them a cardboard box... maybe.
Refund me and ill believe u
Damn.. people with such low disposable income should not play a kickstarter game. All they do is cry over their 40-100 bucks which they surely got their moneys by laying several hundred hours of the game 🤡
Its starting to look like a whole lot of people owe Steven a big ol fat apology.
soooo wait does this mean AoC will have a comeback??? even if its years from now
Yeah litigation will take years alone, and he will also have to resolve the remaining cases still but there is a chance.
one step closer )
So were those documents showing Steven spending hundreds of thousands of dollars from intrepid pockets on personal items falsified?
AoC is dead af it will never recover from this in anyway this is just face saving right or wrong that's all it is, they just want us to eventually forget and move on
If AoC came back I would play and even spend 15 dollars a month the help it
its dead bro just go play runescape or something
Steven should have Billy Mitchell make him a hot sauce
This is an interesting angle


Will game ever come back? I enjoyed it a lot lol
I don't have access to any other chat but I wanted to say congratulations on the dismissal @gritty elk!!! Keep going strong!
@gritty elk i’ve always believed you steven, always. also could i borrow 20 bucks?
Hey folks.
theres no way you lot trust a guy who reacts to his own message
Well maybe I'll eat my words very interesting update. If im wrong I'll admit it @gritty elk

Hey @gritty elk I'm kickstarter backer, I remember back in the day thinking "this guy is doing exactly what my child self wanted to do when he grows up!" 😂 . I'm not very active on discord, but have been quietly monitoring the channel, and thought with the shit show happening to throw in my 2-cents. You may have made silly decisions, messed up here and there (at least from what I understood from some YT videos), but I don't think you "scammed" the backers and community. I could see your passion for the project, and glad to hear the lawsuit against you is dropped. If these guys really ruined my childhood dream, I hope you get them, and if it was your fault due to bad decisions... I forgive you. I guess what I'm saying is Good Luck!
i love stevens post, but will there be accountability for the personal spending paid for by the company, or the other questionable accounting practices?
im super thankful to hear the good news and never lost hope. ill be on the day the servers pop back online. i remember hearing the news of a competitior coming to a mmo years ago,was super hyped and to finally play it was incredible. you need a good nights rest after all this court stuff, everything was on the line and you never gave up you fought for all of us and our gaming future, cheers to many good years to come @gritty elk
Yall picked up the reboot card... Right?
just to be clear did aoc will comeback ?
I hope so
Been waiting over 10 years, im fine to wait another 10. Just wanna see it done.
omg, just saw the news, i have goosebumps
Dayum, news are heavy
It's lame, It's not like he will get to return the funds back to the supporters. What he's doing is just to have a chance to win some easy money :v
n this case, the only way to return anything to the buyers is to fulfill the obligations and complete the project. That’s exactly what Steven is trying to do — bring the game back. Essentially, deliver what you paid for.
What 'Board'? what is he talking about?
No it wont
IPs owner is interpid and its bankrupt. Few companies reviewed buying the code but it is so complicated to aquire and the code itself is bad, so it most likely wont happen
If by some miracle steven regains the IP he will need massive funding and no one will believe him anymore so this way is gone as well
You underestimate this MMO crowd. People who played this game non stop are now playing some of the lamest MMO products and trying to say this has potential. So if Ashes came back under Steven or someone else and it many people would be back, obviously some of us would stay away but these MMO nomads are desperate for anything new.
Both sides hold each other’s fatal secrets and are forced to a ceasefire: Steven has solid evidence hanging over him for misappropriating public funds, while the board is tainted by illegal loan sharking. If they keep fighting relentlessly, neither side can cash out. The lawsuit dismissal is simply the result of a damage-control negotiation.
A spoils-sharing deal has replaced a court ruling:
The April 30 lawsuit withdrawal means both sides have reached a restructuring of interests. Steven stays on as the public face to appease the community, while the board retreats behind the scenes waiting to cash out.
A big play to milk the player base:
Next, they will hype up their “legal victory”, restart Alpha 2 or launch new pre-sales, using fresh player money to cover old bad debts.
The nature of the game has fundamentally changed:
Game development is no longer the goal — capital unloading is. The core team has already disintegrated, and the so-called “revival” is little more than a well-packaged financial rescue operation.
So way were tryina make points on a 6-hour slowmode channel
Yep. Horrendous drought out there.
I just want another SWG like video game (stars reach ain’t it lol). Tired of cookie cutter theme park MMOs.
SWG Evolve (https://www.swgevolve.com/) is alive and well 🙂
When release?
@ornate dawn oh you mean the board that we were told we didnt exist so the game wouldnt have to cater to its whims?
If it comes back it will take years to even get the IP rights back.
Until then noone will remember anything good about the ashes, only the way it went down
Exactly, even if Steven wins the court case…most likely it will be hard to build a development team back up as well.
dont know i would say illegal loan sharking, they set there terms on a private personal loan, Steven could have chose other lending options. the only dismissal was NV and they shouldnt have file there, should have been CA. they could refile in CA and Jason's lawsute is still active
It is possible, but he’d have to start over on a smaller scale with everything, testers, developers, etc.
wait so ashes of creation might come back?
Beta 1 out yet? xD
this aint called ashes of creation for nothing i suppose.. like a phoenix when it comes out of the fire the ones left standing will be stronger and hopefully have better defenses in place so this doesnt happen again... yes it will definitely be a smaller group though hopefully this time it will be all the right people in the right spots so the game can truly start to grow in the direction the team has always envisioned it to be, though only time will tell how it will all play out and hopefully the court system does not side with the ones trying to extinguish the flames before the rebirth is complete, we have waited this long already what is a few more years anyways...
So hows the servers doing? Can we still get on?
everyday i come to this discord to see the latest and greatest. I love the support this game still gets even in its current state. Stay strong fam we will rise again

whats the population like? 50?
with the lawsuits and everything, is this game still active? steam reviews are negative and one review is even talking about getting a refund because the game is no longer in production
hello new here!
I want to buy the game
where can i go?
thnks guys!
всем доброго, кто то играет в нее? Если да, то как?
games dead cant buy anymore

🍗
give me a refund
Im so glad I backed for the beta 1 access... It must start soon ... SOOOONNN .... 🌞

is it coming back?


**ASHES THEME SONG
?
Ignore it, just a russian..
How about just refunding us instead of ranting on discord?

А ты чего в этом чате забыл тогда?
I was thinking my ai song about verra may be an appropriate ashes theme song. 😅
Been reworking it some.
смотрю у тебя большой опыт отношений с чужими херами. ну так во первых пошел в очко, во вторых кто тебе дал право оскорблять незнакомых тебе людей? в третьих какое тебе дело до моих денег? типа умный? тогда следи молча, а то херню несешь.
This guy calls us all stupid sheep and discriminates against Sharif. Ban him already! @gritty elk


when can i make my character
Is there no one paying attention anymore? There are barely any updates. This is pretty concerning.
Steven posted the most recent win in court in the news section. Legal battles take time.
highest IQ way to get rid of RMT'rs ive ever seen
Dude, it doesnt matter who win if we still get a game

Never gave up on AOC - miss this game. Glad I waited to make a decsion till all the details came out. Good luck @gritty elk

We could get a p2w hellscape. Don’t could be awful.
anyone on to help me get to lvl 25?

Wake up AOC!
anymore news on the trials? Been silent for abit now
Justice prevails.
The brave are invincible.
I doubt I'd have interest to play the game without Steven's vision. Hearing him talk about his plans for the game got me exited and Ixknow delivering all the promises would be difficult but as long as he works on adding and improving them I'd be happy. The board didnt seem to care about anything but the amount of money the game could make and they'd just half-ass and remove most of the planned features to cut the budget.
wait, it's back up and running?
Answering xDraco: Next message down.
OK good, I hate to think I waisted money on this.. hope it comes back.. the Last good MMO
possibly
I'm not allowed to talk in general
I wonder why 🙁
u no vay
Niggapotamus