#newcomer-chat

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marble spoke
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server discord italia non lo so, solitamente è tutto gestito da quei 4 falliti di mmo.it che non sopporto molto

exotic bolt
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I got a 2tb SSD for like £40 so its really not tricky

marble spoke
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però se cerchi community in generale. o qualcuno con cui giocare, ci sono 2 gilde main, mano nera e ordine di shor (dove sono io).
per mano nera non posso parlare non conoscendoli molto direttamente, sono probabilmente più addicted e competitivi.
per gli shor sono più chill, sicuramente non rimani da solo come un bambolotto a giocare senza sapere cosa fare e qual'è il tuo posto dentro sto gioco pieno di bug 🙂

faint salmon
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This has nothing to do with price, more space mean more difficult optimization. Also has optimization issues in game on this alpha period, will occur more problems on fully release.

bronze oak
exotic bolt
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Yep thats me

jovial crescent
exotic bolt
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Didnt think I've done enough to be especially noteworthy tho 🙂

marble spoke
bronze oak
jovial crescent
marble spoke
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che coprono dall'entry level (dal lv 1) all'endgame, ovviamente
eh non ci capisci molto perché tanto è derivato da NDA,

marble spoke
jovial crescent
marble spoke
# jovial crescent Guarda io sono un capogilda quindi questo per me è un bene

ottimo allora 😄

comunque se vuoi una realtà abbastanza avviata e super organizzata ti conviene sentire una delle 2 gilde che ti ho menzionato sopra.
per la mia posso reindirizzarti io, per l'altra non posso aituarti molto ovviamente,documentati un attimo in generale anche su facebook ci sono i vari gruppi

fiery quail
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what did people test in PTR exactly?

jovial crescent
exotic bolt
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I dunno all the details, but I know one of the PTR's recently was trying to fix the ai for summoner pets, stopping stuff like them getting stuck or falling through the ground.

cedar crystal
exotic bolt
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I'm just giving what I was told 🙂

lilac condor
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50 Cap coming ?

exotic bolt
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Not even remotely, I doubt we'll see that until beta. If the cap was increasing, there would be a ton more fanfare about it and probably a server wipe

lilac condor
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I think the server will crash

lucid remnant
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they trying to tweak it to be more acheage like

exotic bolt
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Also probably because there isnt content that goes upto level 50 yet for the archetypes to be worth implementing in their current state. Better to iron the 1-25 then move on than try to do the entire 1-50 track in one sitting

deft zephyr
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Maybe they'll add 45 lvl Minos with 200k Hp it's okay

exotic bolt
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I mean, it would be a way to get people to farm the world bosses if theyre the only things you could kill to get XP to lvl 50 xD

deft zephyr
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Would be nice if we had some actual dungeons to begin with

red hemlock
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whats the update?

mystic wagon
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back up

deft zephyr
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Servers are up

red hemlock
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what was the update

exotic bolt
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Quick! everyone log on and crash the servers! PANIC!!!!

tribal kernel
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Another sport fishing and quest update 😂

deft zephyr
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Code21

willow crater
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For fuck sake, they reset the binds.

golden chasm
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my keybind wtf

vague crag
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same

tribal kernel
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At least new characters get rations

dire wolf
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new players are peasants and should be hungry, eating termites and plump slugs

tribal kernel
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Revert patch inc

sullen jackal
sharp acorn
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guess its time to heat up my preworkout meal

viral fjord
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where are the patch notes ?

white drum
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My game character is having a problem; both its level and life skills are at level 1.

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@tepid moon My game character's level and life skills have both been reset by 1. Can anyone help me fix this?

sharp acorn
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they probably gonna just take away the update again at this rate

dry furnace
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Yep another 2 hours down

solemn zodiac
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#alpha-two-news Latest update is that they're aware of a lot of the issues going on and are investigating

white drum
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@sharp acornSpeechless. I guess I'll just go to sleep.

sharp acorn
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go to the gym instead, it will be more productive than most of the Devs

tribal kernel
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Called it. Great ptr testing @mild vigil

dry furnace
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Lmao

weary nebula
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so wasted 3 hours today to go into revert update and waste another 2 hours

sharp acorn
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next update will be 15g, and then they will revert it once again

serene fog
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rly patch 50gb

weary nebula
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for literally nothing, and the "fixes" wasn't even that major for a 10gb update

mystic wagon
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oof

worn flare
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bumski

harsh briar
white drum
undone fern
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i know this patch is getting a rollback but was it just me or was there some performance increase

worn flare
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This development is going slower than star citizen development

dry furnace
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Can’t put out 1 update correctly but don’t call them incompetent they are new company and don’t know how to be developers

jovial oriole
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is there any way to fix quests where commisioned quests wont complete

worn flare
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Does it take a lot of time/ effort to add quests and content to an mmo?

carmine granite
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4/5 characters getting 37. all in joeva/halcy/possibly winstead.

harsh briar
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hey same here, all but one @carmine granite

worn flare
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servers are down

carmine granite
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After logging into that one, I can now log back into the others.

orchid horizon
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I would pop a fishing scroll right when this happened. xD

harsh briar
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Same here now @carmine granite haha

median glen
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Dont they have a fking test server before pushing shit to us?

green schooner
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we're literally playing on it

dry furnace
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Don’t forget this is a alpha they can get away with half baking everything and shitty work

timber elk
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i guess that " additional changes " they " suck in " in broke

haughty patio
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error code 21, obvs i cant play despite following the websites suggestions to resolve

tribal kernel
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Run to the mayor mount seller and get you a mount before they take it down🤣

carmine granite
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We are the test server .. like literally we're here testing alpha builds

jovial oriole
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does anyone know how to fix commisioned quests not completingÉ

bronze oak
weary nebula
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i jsut wonder if they cant implement a simple update like this how we expect the game to actually launch?

worn flare
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people are trying to force this to be a fully released game but it is far from it.

orchid horizon
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we're doing the lords work yall. your frustrations are worth it! 🛠️

harsh briar
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why is my alpha game not beta fully polished yet?

dry furnace
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Fructose thats because on stems it doesn’t show ashes of creation alpha” its shows ashes of creation early accesss

viral marlin
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Sometimes, some things work in test, but not in prod, is what it is ^^

bronze oak
median glen
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as a wow vet of 3 years exactly this is unacceptable

viral marlin
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Did you play the wow alpha? Was unstable, so was their release hah

harsh briar
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they bring down the server early?

timber elk
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what does being a " wow vet " have anything to do with this

median glen
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Clearly I didnt play wow you downy

weary nebula
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its not that the game is crap, the problem is insteed updating the game they break it down

dry furnace
bronze oak
median glen
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twist his dick!

dry furnace
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People like you who defend shitty developers is why they keep putting out half baked shit

bronze oak
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if you cant comprehend what you're buying or getting yourself into , nobody else is it to blame

median glen
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I mean Ark was bad but damn

serene pawn
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next udpate :3

slow dove
mild vigil
# dry furnace People like you who defend shitty developers is why they keep putting out half b...

I mean, if you click read more....

Early Access to our Alpha Two allows us to bring players into Verra during key stages of development, helping us test, balance, and improve systems that make the world truly dynamic. Every test, report, and adventure helps shape how civilization rises or falls across each realm.”
Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“We’re currently in Alpha Two, the second major testing phase of Ashes of Creation. Following this phase, we plan to move through Beta One and Beta Two, leading toward full launch once the game reaches the quality and stability our community deserves.

Steam doesnt have a "Alpha" tag, so EA was the choice.

dry furnace
crystal summit
bronze oak
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so many illiterate people , its wild

weary nebula
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do you realize that they reverted last 2 updates cause the game broke down? instead of fixing things they break something else

mild vigil
bronze oak
flint dune
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Damn! so glad i waited 1h30 for patching the update , and now its going down again. Sick

spare reef
dry furnace
mild vigil
slow dove
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this is the problem with the instant gratification TikTok children playing games. they think everything should be finished in 5 seconds

bronze oak
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sadly

median glen
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na just 10 years and 5 seconds

mystic wagon
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you could find a way to ean money IRL during downtimes you bums

delicate jackal
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broooooooooooo i just got off work NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

dry furnace
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6 years in development so far and another 6 to be done enjoy the game as is because its gonna be dead on arrival at this point

delicate jackal
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i was laughing at you guys earlier! anikaaaaaa st op it glass half full no salt

slow dove
worn flare
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its tough to enjoy discord with all the negativity

median glen
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You wouldnt last a second inside of me!

bold timber
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I noticed i cant target tameables now... going to make hunting a lot harder,smh

fresh smelt
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I’m confused by the patch notes. Why is this patch 10gb ???

keen elk
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1h.....

mystic wagon
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idek why they have a channel like this to begin with lol. People dont leave feedbackwhen theyre having fun so this will be 95% negativity

viral fjord
tribal mountain
mild vigil
exotic bolt
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And back again. Saad Gonna have no chance to play tonight at this rate 🙁

viral fjord
crystal summit
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Hold on we got white knights here , they are protecting the game.... Damn guys just chill let Steven pull his pants down 1st.....

slow dove
timber elk
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couldnt add keybind to mount sprint after the update , good thing they reverting

mild vigil
harsh briar
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my keybinds were also gone @timber elk

deft zephyr
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You guys only know how to play rogues and press vanish come on

median glen
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I picture Olie looks like Gandalf

timber elk
crystal dune
mild vigil
obtuse field
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servers came down right?

delicate jackal
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If i don't get bribed with mtx for linking, i may or may not apply to pad the numbers lol.

fresh smelt
viral fjord
harsh briar
slow gale
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Yeah sorry that's my bad

fast depot
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Prof rollback. I used to be a masterbaiter. Now I'm just learning to tug it...

median glen
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wait theres more then 1?

plush silo
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still no barrel cactus lol

slow gale
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Every time I try and play an alpha the servers get taken offline for most of my free time.
I just hope they recover shortly.

fast depot
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Guess il go play pantheon again. Somehow that game is less of a hot shit mess than ashes lol

exotic bolt
wintry loom
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I will say, I was complaining about the amount of mats needed to craft a single item, but man when you get it it is rewarding. Definitely not worth selling much. Takes hours of grinding to make 40s profit per adept bow.

glacial ivy
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😮‍💨

median glen
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I remember my first beer

rich cliff
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Tell me Why

glacial ivy
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4 hours to have the exact thing we had before wasting 4 hours

snow pawn
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Offline for anyone else?
Ahh update, 👍 👌

teal tendon
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Realms still down?

violet belfry
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anyone seen or heard how long this phase is gonna be before we get a reset?

median glen
gilded verge
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@violet belfry i dont believe there will be wipe before new content so expect wipe when we have some of the secondary arechetypes ready and level 25+

exotic bolt
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Something went wrong with the patch so they have to revert it

golden chasm
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nice patching time

spare reef
glacial ivy
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They should do this 12 hours from now

gilded verge
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if they wipe at this point they will loose large player base that they need for testing major content forward

median glen
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Game was toooo broken from the tiny fixes they are unfixing

glacial ivy
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Its mid day for me and prime gaming time

fiery tapir
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oyun ne zaman açılacak ?

slow gale
languid pewter
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This is what an alpha is for Chads……..

When have they had problems with cash shop?

fresh smelt
tribal kernel
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10 year alpha

glacial ivy
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Up to one hour it says to revert

fiery tapir
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When will the game open? ?

slow gale
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If you mean a character wipe, fair question, but no, no one knows.

languid pewter
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AI programming at its finest!!!

glacial ivy
spare reef
slow dove
median glen
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So whats yalls favorite colors

foggy scaffold
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is servers down rn ?

slow gale
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Yeah they are doing periodic wipes, the only perma thing I know about is hitting level 25 in allpha and getting the mount.
Which I will do.

But I think that's it for perma right now. Maybe some titles or something, I dunno.

wraith remnant
languid pewter
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Can’t even roll out one patch without drastic issues

I love the game but it’s definitely starting to feel like this ain’t happening for another 3-5 years

slow dove
median glen
timber elk
slow gale
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Although alpha advantage is always the same in MMO's.
You just need to know the game so you can sprint at the start and take a higher position economically and level wise.

Heard mount was this:
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Guarden

slow dove
languid pewter
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No they won’t, maybe wipe for beta then we will have EA servers like every other game

wraith remnant
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oh its cosmetic

slow gale
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Yeah I don't think they will wipe during a phase, but you never know for sure.

median glen
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a cosmetic that already exist ??

nova frigate
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hello guys, im new to the game, i just started in this alpha phase. Do i have to restart when it goes to Beta?

deft zephyr
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Ballerina Cappucina Tralarero Tralala

slow gale
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Bro... that's what we are talking about hahaha Read up

grizzled turtle
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doggo game

nova frigate
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i just joined the discord, take it easy on me 😄

slow gale
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Just pulling your leg.

But yes there is a very very high chance they are going to wipe from alpha to beta and then beta to launch.

languid pewter
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They even have ptr and still putting out broken patches 😂

median glen
nova frigate
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oh ok, so i do not have to hurry now to get lvl 25 hhahah 😄

slow gale
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Especially with the high guard they want on bot and gold seller production which will very much effect the game.
I suspect that is a problem they are quite concerned about with this game structure.

shell basin
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Когда включат это говнище ебучее

languid pewter
grizzled turtle
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patch after patch after patch to do nothing but reset the keybinds

median glen
slow gale
# nova frigate oh ok, so i do not have to hurry now to get lvl 25 hhahah 😄

Yes, if you are looking for live benefit you want to learn the game and probably do half crafting and investigating.
Level 25 gets you a mount cosmetic, nothing amazing, similar to some other ones from what I am finding and hearing.
So there is no huge alpha win long term prize.

Just insight and experience.
But that pretty much seals the deal on live starting rushes

shell basin
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Есть тут славянские люди?
Когда сервак поднимут

slow dove
sterile harbor
slow gale
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I'm gonna break my streak and not do a rogue or mage.

Imma finally be a healer.
And a damn good one.

median glen
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Roo arent you a ranger on Shol? lol or different roo

tribal mountain
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That's roogaming

nova frigate
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ok stil nice, i guess i just enjoy whats comming 😄 stil one question, even when i payed now the game, there will be abos, for monthly payments, is that right? like after all the alpha and beta

slow gale
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Different one, I dunno what that is haha.
The last MMO I played serious was elder scrolls online when it launched.

I was like the 19th emperor account though.

shell basin
median glen
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Yeah im thinking about a different person, and yes @nova frigate thats the plan a monthly sub

slow gale
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I spent two days solid in battle ground to get all those castles with the guild and get a title.
I think we made at least 8 emperors in that battle group.

nova frigate
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ok, thanks guys for the infos 🙂

exotic helm
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Any idea when the servers are back up?

sterile harbor
abstract harness
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shit sever , wtf this update , just fix bug? we need new conent ,PVP

median glen
gusty jewel
slow gale
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So many hot pockets 🐔

For those asking they tried to patch, it went poorly, they are reverting.

Probably within the hour.

floral juniper
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so will the game be up in an hour or would this take longer?

median glen
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Prob longer since you have to download the patch

slow gale
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So quick question, linking your alpha intrep account to disrcord gets you general channel access?

median glen
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Didnt work for me im stuck here

graceful lichen
mild vigil
slow gale
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KK thanks, figured but I thought I did it too.
I might have just closed it before finisihing though.

That happens with multiple monitors more and more haha
I have monitor ADD.

Ill look at it again.

stone fjord
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how do we get access to the alpha two general chat?

mild vigil
median glen
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eyyy it worked

mild vigil
proper coral
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hi everyone, will there be any actions for the current bot issue. Because i'm constantly reporting them through /bug but i always see the same guys doing same pattern.

median glen
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Wow what is this communism

deft shore
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what a bad timing to buy this game 🙂 it isnt working

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what is usual maintenance time here?

exotic bolt
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Should be back up within the hour

slow dove
slow gale
meager totem
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I am trying to update the game but it says I dont have enough storage space ... I have 70gb free

deft shore
exotic bolt
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If you can try to push it up to 95

grizzled turtle
# tribal kernel 10 year alpha

you aint wrong, thats rediculous and people go "its in alpha state what do you expect" um i dunno after 8 years more than this.

slow gale
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I do remember I bought this game to play when I was bigger into gaming.

And then just... had a whole chapter of life before alpha came out.

mild vigil
meager totem
crisp yoke
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I updated. Servers down

mild vigil
slow gale
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Bold of you to assume he works at all /jokes

grizzled turtle
tribal mountain
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thats 100k unemployeed answer

near ocean
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are servers currently down?

meager hazel
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thought the over haul was 3 hours whats up?

exotic bolt
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Yes sn4 should be back up soon

old crane
slow gale
slow dove
near ocean
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ok so its not just me, thank you!

grizzled turtle
surreal sky
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why cant i write in the "alpha-two-general" chat ?

mild vigil
slow dove
crisp yoke
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I´v tried alot of mmo´s too find a new good one. This is definitly it. They just need too fix the Blur and its great

slow gale
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Whoops, that one was not for you snatch, didn't mean for it to be a reply. But yes they are down, reverting to the old setup,

tribal mountain
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dumb too

grizzled turtle
# vestal osprey lol, no

guild wars was 5-6 years, Wow was 4-5 years and ff14 was 2-3 years to develop look it up before you disagree

surreal sky
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i love Ashes of Creaion.. i love every aspect of the game. (except the UI.) i hate it when i cant see my inventory FULL! and i want the storages BIGGER

mild vigil
slow dove
tribal mountain
slow gale
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OH OH, that reminds me.

I did play for like 30 minutes last night.

And what is the thing happening when your cursor disappears and you get a targeting reticle instead?
That was driving me nuts.

It's like a combat setting.

And it makes it very hard to use your mouse while you are fighting because it disappears.

vast forge
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They just need to show the north some more love, and I'll be satisfied (for now)

vestal osprey
warped marten
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where can I post some Feedback on some things i see

mild vigil
tribal mountain
crisp yoke
grizzled turtle
split jolt
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My issues vary but the only one that bugs me most is the mouse hooking. Sometimes I get in combat I feel like I am playing Diablo in 3rd person mouse mode and it takes 20 attempts to get it to lock my mouse back up again and most times when I do I still cannot turn the screen.

slow gale
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Got it, thanks yall, that helps a lot.
I was just gonna start hitting random keys lmao

mild vigil
vestal osprey
tribal mountain
shell basin
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Как можно к вам тестировщиком устроиться?

grizzled turtle
crisp yoke
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Did I mention the blurry graphics? .-) Thats the only thing, and its awesome

jovial furnace
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can ppl quit bitchin

dire wolf
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Are people complaining about their own personal choice to purchase a $45 early access game? good lord.

surreal sky
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i believe in Ashes of Creation and i believe that it will succed. But i hardly have a problem that the patches (weekly) are very thin... only 1 or 2 fixes.. ( i mean .. there are "one man" Indie Games with 20 fixes every few days. and i remember "New World " shortly after release also had weekly 1 or 2 lines in the patch notes. extreme thin

dense vapor
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y

grizzled turtle
split jolt
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I mean Star Citizen has been in its buggy phase for 15 years and made far more money than most other games and they still can't get the NPC's to stop hiding under ramps, getting piled up trying to get through doors and all standing on 1 table like keeping away from a rat. I think the time taken to resolve issues is lack of focus. Stick to 1 issue until that 1 issue is 100% resolved then work on another. I think the issue is UE5 being able to have many hands in the cookie jar at the same time. One persons fix gets messed up while another person is fixing something else.

tribal mountain
crystal summit
# mild vigil Lets also not forget wow was programmed in much older code, simpler, and smaller...

Actually you are the clueless here , yes wow was programmed and used old technology but for its time it was the latest. Also keep in mind now devs have more "help" compared to the OG devs back in the day atleast 80% of programmers use co-pilot or chat-gpt. Keep in mind this guys from AOC doesnt write everything from scratch, they used the "blueprints" from unreal. It's all about the skills of the coders... AOC doesnt have any as it looks so....

crisp yoke
rose grail
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when is the ptr online?

tawny dock
wraith remnant
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patching on steam, we back yet?

tribal mountain
slow gale
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So this is all file editing patching.

And then yall have to drop back in the entire file set without the new stuff.

That's the only way a double 10 gig download makes sense.

serene fog
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why all time patch 50gb

viral marlin
split jolt
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@viral marlin Why I said what I said above. EU5 allows multiple people to make changes at the same time from my understanding of it. They released it while I was working on my project and I didn't jump on that train because I seen that being a potential issue.

slow dove
crisp yoke
tribal mountain
forest hemlock
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does anybody knows if the EU server is already up or when?

worn flare
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LETS BE POSITIVE ABOUT ASHES

grizzled turtle
viral marlin
slow dove
worn flare
grizzled turtle
tribal mountain
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he's unemployed.

vast forge
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so why are you here? got any game better than this right now?

north cedar
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👀 👀 👀

grizzled turtle
opaque sluice
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Goddamn I don't get the mentality of not being allowed to complain about shit in here, if something sucks they need to be made aware of it

tribal mountain
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doubt it

brazen shard
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Man they really fixed a lot 😂

serene fog
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Why does this fucking game download the entire game again with every patch?

crystal summit
worn flare
crisp yoke
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Tried every similar mmo in the genre, and this is another thing completly. Just uninstalled GW2. A joke really

delicate oasis
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I like the game so far , even at this state, sure there are some fixes, and I'm sure devs are aware, I see the potential, great work so far, keep up the work Intrepid

vast forge
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@serene fog reserving space on steam or something else?

grizzled turtle
fluid cairn
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lol 13 gig patch again

tribal mountain
brazen shard
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Game is so ass I downloaded WoW for the first time

forest hemlock
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broskis its not that long

grizzled turtle
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patch then revert patch nice 4 hour downtime lmao

remote pond
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Keybinds are gone.
Good thing i'm not a whiny loser and can easily press the keys again in setup.

near ocean
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IS THERE AN eta OF WHEN THEY'LL BE BACK?

forest hemlock
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go play league in the meantime, u want the game to inprove right

opaque sluice
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I don't think I've actually changed any key binds

covert wing
north cedar
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Are servers still down ?

brazen shard
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Just got messaged by the mod bot lol

wispy prairie
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hey guys new player here! do we know when the servers will be back up?

waxen moat
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Development team, you guys are so funny! update - delete - update - delete. You wasted 4 hours of our time.

deft zephyr
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Crazy how they are based in US and they mess up the EU farming hours.

tepid marsh
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30mins

mild vigil
# opaque sluice Goddamn I don't get the mentality of not being allowed to complain about shit in...

This isnt peoples therapist chat. Raging and insulting people is an emotional reaction. It is not "constructive critisism". Regardless of the state of the game, the development team, and people in discord, are just that, actual people.

There are multiple paths to leave critical feedback. Forums, the feedback thread area here in discord. That is where devs have asked people to post their issues so they dont get lost in the fast moving discord.

vast forge
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If yall don't like the state of the game, go play something else. Pretty simple concept

tribal mountain
crystal summit
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Guys they just did an update to make a second update to revert back. Chat Gpt maybe messed some things up for them....

languid pewter
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Can’t even wrap my mind around an untested patch 😂

And with ptr active….. straight negligence

remote pond
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id rather this downtime than at night when i play lmao.

deft zephyr
#

Thats the second week in a row that this happens, last week was on a Friday till 1am cet

brazen shard
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How about making it a priority to get rid of the bots lol…there were 40k people playing the other night and I guarantee 5k of them are bots lol

soft briar
#

Is boting alowwed?

waxen moat
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why uptade why delete? if you see this normal its ok 10gb download and again 10 gb download again : )))

languid pewter
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Hell no botting isn’t allowed, but it’s obvious they don’t care about the people that are supporting their project

viral marlin
#

Personally, I don't get how it is relevant when people spout the same things over and over. If you hate it so much, then why are you even here?

deft zephyr
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8% is not a lot? We are talking about anti-cheat engines and still the problem remains unsolved?

near ocean
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steam just put the update again, so thats something

wispy prairie
#

Hey guys new player here! do we know when the servers will be back up?

manic pewter
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your 3 hours are up lol jk take your time

languid pewter
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Problem is….. we love it. But don’t understand what the hell they are doing.

Life isn’t all flowers and rainbows. Holding people accountable is a necessity

mild vigil
crystal summit
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Mitch Evans is the lead programmer, good now i will avoid all games coded by him and his team. Lesson learned.

kindred badge
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yeah downloaded the whole update. then they reverted it and now steam is having it redownload and patch again.
Yay

brazen shard
#

Got people like Theory Forge who is figuring out how to kill bots by flagging them but we can’t get in game GMs to get rid of these bots. Legit only reason I don’t play lol

floral vector
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this become brainless AF

surreal sky
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waiting 3 hours in Discord is NOTHING!! i farmed scorpions the last 4 weeks ... daily 8-10 hours...

deft zephyr
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The main issue is that it's almost a 10 yo game in progress and they release an Alpha that is not even 25% complete

north cedar
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Am i the only one that understands a game still in alpha is genuinly going to be rough cut?

languid pewter
mild vigil
shell basin
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пиздец ебать, обнова опять на 13 гигов

soft briar
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I just found some guy who asked my instagram and he gave me 45 gold for nothing

brazen shard
#

I’ve seen better moderation in fiveM servers

noble harness
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Scorpion Farmers are the worst! Clear an entire patch to hunt the scorpion to have some bot roll up and grab it while you're finishing the final mob off.

tribal mountain
mild vigil
compact laurel
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You guys should RE-EVALUATE your QA team and release management. Like HEAVILY

languid pewter
covert wing
soft briar
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It was 1 h ago

narrow storm
halcyon tangle
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i wonder how much debt you guys are in 🤡 😅

deft zephyr
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Apart from that people abusing gold buying websites and are BIS Epic 2 months after release. Come on..

surreal sky
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yyou asked .. so here is myy answer.. in 4 weeks, 8-10 hours daily yfarming scorpions i found 57 (normal scorpions, 1 legendary) , + 13 broodlings (one green only) , 14 common crocs (near lake) , 1 blue croc, 7 Hippos in the lake and around 500 carcasses... thats the point ..whyy i left Miraleth... storage AND Guild Storage is FULL.. but farmingn broodlings was way to hard... sometimes 10 hours of farming and 0 broodlings..

brazen shard
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I’m sorry

mild vigil
north cedar
tribal mountain
noble harness
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I don't think people are complaining about it being just an alpha. It's that it's been in alpha phase for 9 years now lol

tulip glacier
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your bad situation doesn't excuse expectation

languid pewter
tribal mountain
brazen shard
unkempt dust
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crazy that a patch that was supposed to take x hours took y hours... this would NEVER happen in any other life-service game........ right..?

mild vigil
compact laurel
languid pewter
# brazen shard What do they do?

Now that’s the million dollar question… my guess is they have ai code some shit and slap it in game. If it works cool if not we go down for them to fix

narrow storm
surreal sky
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As a Testmanager and Releasemanager for about 18 years.. i have to say.. sometimes.. you can test with 40 ppl ...10 dayys in the row.. and big companyies still merge and merge on a daily basis and you cant stop them.. when Projectleads say "GO" theyy go..

silent merlin
#

wen server

deft zephyr
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Y'all be judging the game as it's officially released. Did you all come from metin2?

mild vigil
brazen shard
compact laurel
waxen moat
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In an alpha game of course uptade is normal, its ok i cant understand why update and delete if you're not sure about your progress dont do that. Only i try to understand this.

tribal mountain
harsh briar
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Newcomers, I'm from Lyneth, if you need help leveling, PM me in game: Bugglegupp

edit:
except Super, and Imprez lol - and no it's not a boost you geese, I just have alts to help people level lol

quasi mauve
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I swear. WHICH IDIOT DECIDED that an UPDATE should be during the DAY. Bunch of idiots.

wet sonnet
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Been reading on the wipes and I don't understand. says they don't want to do wipes, but that they will do wipes, but it also says in past wipes they preserved character levels and inventories but everything else got wiped but they also said they will wipe everything before release. Does anyone know anything or is this something they haven't decided yet ?

deft zephyr
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This chat is better than Sopranos

vague badge
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People please, I just ran out of popcorn ...... could you just give me a minute to whack up some more!

real patio
tribal mountain
deft zephyr
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@tribal mountain thats so true

soft briar
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I hope they add some nice skins for valentines day

tulip glacier
mild vigil
# wet sonnet Been reading on the wipes and I don't understand. says they don't want to do wip...

"Wipes" is not really the term. IN the past, servers have been shut down, and then fresh ones opened, and we all start over. Nothing, is carried over to those. Always fresh and new progress.

Will they open fresh servers so they can restart testing? Sure they will, but they dont WANT to have to do that unless they really really have to.

It is very likely that will happen prior to beta testing, and for sure, everything will be deleted prior to launch.

quasi mauve
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There's literally the lowest time zone at 2am to 5am. Whoever is playing then, forget them. These are supposely gamer who are developing this game. Sheesh

harsh briar
tribal mountain
wet sonnet
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Christopher Waken can't do movies if the server is down, he can't log in.

pulsar nest
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lmao so many ppl complaining.. its like noone has ever seens a game being currently developed before

languid pewter
halcyon tangle
real patio
silent merlin
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I'll bet the Steam AoC Discussion forums are 🔥 right now

deft zephyr
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Steven could play Tony tbh

sinful aspen
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Is the game back yet?

north cedar
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I'm loving the raging over these "bad patches" whilst remembering every patch that came out of wildcard studios for ark....at the product is still in development...where as breaking an already finished product repeatedly and yet here we all are still wanting to play. 🫡

chrome fulcrum
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You signed up to participate in an released alpha project. Things can be unexpected. You are still testing a work in progress game. At least they are working on updates.

normal patrol
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IS IT BACK UP

orchid ginkgo
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Think of a game with 300 or more gigs. And they did the same stuff. They would loss tons of ppl. Not wanting to throw 300 more gigs into a failed update. Wasting ppl data over nothing. Wonder if they get paid for this lol

tribal mountain
quasi mauve
languid pewter
surreal sky
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i come from the future. i saw 2100 servers still UP. Ashes won the MMO World records

silent merlin
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Ark is a shitty game why would you compare this game to it

brazen shard
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Funny thing is…I’m not even mad about this game. It’s actually funny watching the self destruction lol

deft zephyr
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Another 10gig download lets goooooo

north cedar
wanton elbow
normal patrol
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ANY 1 LVL IM 6 NEED HELP

real patio
orchid ginkgo
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That not the point )

wet sonnet
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I like that the game is so old school in some aspects
I hope it does fine. I've played far worse in my time!

quasi mauve
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I hope they wipe the servers. Everyone back at lvl 1

rigid bronze
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10gb reversing update ffs

grave willow
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Hi

river jewel
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İ dont understand people … its alpha 2 things will get ducks … most of the game cant even open alpha couze of scare, but AoC does it… respect and accept the game is alpha.

chrome fulcrum
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Archeage of Creation FTW

tribal mountain
deft zephyr
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Looks like Lineage and Metin made out

north cedar
glacial ivy
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Why cant I chat in the shol chat?

wet sonnet
brazen shard
silent merlin
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when did they take the servers down i been sleeping

real patio
mild vigil
tribal mountain
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the only port that matters is 666 the OG Doom port

glacial ivy
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Anybody from shol?

void oyster
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3 hr updates become 3-4 hr reverts EVERYTIME LATELY.. PTR is a Waste, Why Different environment.. Testing is what alpha is to begin with.

quasi mauve
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No respect for Alpha. Get it right the first time.

silent merlin
#

I called in sick today to work to play this game 🙄

brazen shard
halcyon tangle
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guys i am in the server room, it's as you expect in here, it is a barn filled with hay and cows, what buttons do i need to press?

wet sonnet
tribal mountain
surreal sky
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today is a big day. they surprise us with a BIG PATCH... yyipieeeee

deft zephyr
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Big patch no changes

void oyster
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Its Like a Theory, works great on paper, but when implemented fails all the time

wanton elbow
shell basin
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Сука если завтра будет ещё одна обнова на 100 гб я ебанусь

silent merlin
#

are we still allowed to loot bot corpses

tribal mountain
deft zephyr
#

at least they fixed the \o/ praise the lord

mild vigil
void oyster
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If the lg cant be repired an reset after a big break.. Time to Amputate and use new artificial leg

wanton elbow
quasi mauve
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Bots are paying Intrepid studio's bill by buying accounts. NO way they'll get rid of the bots so fast

tribal mountain
grave willow
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I am frustrated with the game but have 500 hrs played soooo ya

river jewel
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When i was 25 i work with metin2 mmo privete servers development team and there was a crash reason that couze the servers down, the reason that couze this problem was the name of a item… finding the problem was took 6 hours… after found fix is 1 min…

surreal sky
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i WISH they pout AI in NPC's... imagine ...servers up.. i go back to myy scorpions to farm them... they see me ... talk to each other... then kidnap me... ask myy bank profile and password

brazen shard
worn flare
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WHERE DO ALCHEMY RECIPE'S DROP? I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE IN GAME. THX

mild vigil
# brazen shard Um the “ban wave” lol

The ban wave was more about rmt and exploits. Not the farming mat bots. That one needs the exploit fixed first or they will just pop back up. Intrepid has said they are tracking them and have a longer term solution in the works.

deft zephyr
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If you got more than 300 hours in the game you made your money back , now if you wanna continue playing is up to you. Noone can decide for you but yourself

lofty sigil
tribal mountain
wet sonnet
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They should get an AI to chase down the bots and give it a terminator skin. Just out there, walking the fields, with a minigun.

chrome bane
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Need more anti bot on crate system, no route worth running

harsh briar
vague badge
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Sigh, I swear I just heard all the bots laughing right now

wanton elbow
deft zephyr
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@harsh briar Im at 689 atm

lofty sigil
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Ashes of Bots!

brazen shard
wet sonnet
harsh briar
tribal mountain
# lofty sigil Ashes of Bots!

discord has more bots than ashes but you're not crying about a fake ukranian woman with big breasts or a anime cat girl in your DMs are you?

deft zephyr
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How many hours do you guys got in the game so far?

brazen shard
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600ish

mild vigil
normal patrol
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any 1 using controller

surreal sky
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see yyou later guys... SERVERS up . #loveandpeace

harsh briar
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102.7 hrs (*10)

deft zephyr
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By the way the chat has grown into me , i might stay here and chat with you people . I'm having so much fun

wet sonnet
river jewel
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Ggs

brazen shard
tribal mountain
manic walrus
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I want darkfall pvp in this game please, yall shouldn't just copy archeage only

wanton elbow
split jolt
#

Most patches I have seen tend to be driven by streamers and them leaving just because they don't have what they want. I have yet to see the simple things fixed that would take just minutes to resolve.

languid pewter
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Run patches through ptr. You would think they are smart enough to think of this

lofty sigil
wet sonnet
timber elk
harsh briar
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@deft zephyr check questions chat above this one lol

misty grove
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if you are not ready for patches, shutdowns, rollbacks, why did you join this alpha testing session you noobs ?

tribal mountain
real patio
#

Lol y'all complain about the return policy but it's steam that gave them that. It was always 90 days before steam access appeared

manic walrus
#

imagine being paid to test games instead of paying to test our world is upside down

wet sonnet
# brazen shard Early access you can’t refund Hahahhaa

I've refunded early access before, I can do it again. You can't stop me!!! (steam purchase)
But nah, I don't want to refund, I've been searching for games to play for like a month, don't want to go back to browsing the store. I want to play.

languid pewter
void oyster
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New Fixes Old Programs Dont work, Turn it off and Wipe Then Implement Thats The point of alpha. PTR isnt working for Yall

languid pewter
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Alpha, testing, development… all great and looking forward to.

Head up ass, not what we signed up for

deft zephyr
#

Yea only bots ruin the economy , it's not also those weird@ss websites selling 50 gold for 10 euros

vague badge
somber jewel
#

well i love it, Bad Game Version HEHEHE fml

wanton elbow
misty grove
deft zephyr
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TO THE STREETS. RIOT NOW!

lofty sigil
misty grove
#

they say "bad game version" while they probably have never coded anymore, coding involves bugs...

languid pewter
deft zephyr
#

Great pilot episode guys can't wait for part 2

misty grove
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yeah they are funny, they subscribed to an alpha version without knowing what it was, and now they complain, it seems it is always the fault of the others...

tribal mountain
wanton elbow
split jolt
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I ignore the bots for the most part but if they didn't have a buyer they wouldn't have a job so I mean find the bots, track the bots and their account trades as I know it can be done I was a GM on MO for a while long ago and I could see the activities of a players interactions and deaths. Once you find the buyers just go that route but if they would stop with the long grind fest and farm fest for materials in a phase that is suppose to be wiped at any time it would stop a great deal of it.

deft zephyr
tribal mountain
deft zephyr
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Sorry you're american ey

vague badge
tribal mountain
deft zephyr
#

We're in boyzzzzz

tribal mountain
carmine granite
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Anyone know if there is/will be any API for grabbing real time data on crafting/processing/vendor items/etc?
I know they said no on combat data, but I'm making a cost calc and don't want to manually create a json entry for every. single. item.

tribal mountain
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Data mine the game files from steam.

north cedar
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So ...apparently... im exempt from downloading an update lmao 🤣

void oyster
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People Know what alpha is and Expect Resets and Problems , they dont expect, Everything works Great now on PTR lets Roll , get Updated then have to revert cause didn't work. Thats Happened 3 times last updates. SO pTR is a Waste if it dont work in alpha. Hence Reset every minor update and wipe evry major one. NO cache conflicts messing up sofware

tribal mountain
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Reverse engineering is also ToS violation

vague badge
# tribal mountain You're right that requires playtime sorry I didn't include that in my statement

you know, I've actually agreed with virtually every point you have made (not verbally in chat), but you are now being plain rude ...... newcomers like myself who have a busy work schedule may not be able to play as much as yourself, not that it's any fault of yours. However, to justify the existence of bots in a game and then try convincing a person that they do not impede the game at all and that it's a persons fault for not having "better gear" is quite frankly insulting

tribal mountain
manic walrus
void oyster
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The Game Is Great, Has Absolute Positive Potential and is enjoyable, Hate its been Down more then UP last 3 updates. As a Former Computer repairman and coder. The New implimentation works in new environment but old environment with old data isnt working with new updates and as such easy fix is wipe and reinstall. iTS ALPHA for that reason. lol

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Make it Alpha 3 Then Continue working on alpha 4 or Beta 1

modern forge
chrome bane
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i just want more crate pack updates plox bots making them unprofitable

gilded lichen
#

guys from what rock does lithium drops

void oyster
plain notch
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Is everything up running?😭

tribal mountain
#

Besides we argued a lot in the Dune discord, he deserves acknowledgement.

modern forge
# plain notch Is everything up running?😭

===========================
Glorious <@&1296581208184066129> testers - All realms are up!

We have reverted the 0.21.0 update. Steam will have you update to the current build for Ashes of Creation, before you're able to login.

No character progression has been lost as a result of this update being reverted.

We know days like today are frustrating, both for testers and us over here at Intrepid. We're grateful for everyone's patience, as we work through issues. Thank you for being a part of testing for Ashes of Creation.

void oyster
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ITS ALPHA We would expect Character Progression cause its New Implimentation for Charachters. Thats a Wipe Rebuild that need Done

tribal mountain
#

There really gonna make nerds mad when they realize their female elf has a normal sized bust

split jolt
#

Bot don't effect ones gameplay the end result of bots does however effect your gameplay with the cost of items from the marketplace due to gold buyers thinking everything is worth 100x what it cost to make. If a bot is harvesting nodes where you are just simply move somewhere else. Streamers are causing the development team to waste tons of time and effort trying to fix every little thing they complain about instead of the broader issues. If this game does fail and I hope it don't it will be because of streamers and their hardcore fanbase who cannot think for themselves. There needs to be either 3 more toon slots or have the option to change your Archetype at a npc so not to waste time leveling up all of them for testing. Items for testing such as recipes and materials should be placed on a npc to buy for free and craft for free at each station location and exp buff added to fast track all level gains. I have no problem grinding out levels on release I leveled all my jobs on final fantasy xi to 75 before the caps were added and I went back and took most of them to Master levels so a grind is nothing new to me but in an alpha phase they are slowing their own progress for some reason. Every month or so release a big patch after a wipe and those that were just playing like it was a full release will come crawling back to cap out again if they don't then they wasn't going to stay when the subs kicked in anyways.

tribal mountain
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That's a lot of words

mighty thicket
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But a lot of wise words though

split jolt
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Yes it is and that is how I do my testing. I go through every little detail start to finish and stop when I hit something broken. If I cannot skip it I fix it and once I fix it I start all over again to ensure I broke nothing else. There is a great deal of wasted time in this Alpha trying to make everyone happy and that will never happen. It is impossible to make everyone happy but you can predict the real testers from the flakers.

tribal mountain
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I have it flagged to read after I'm not driving

fresh smelt
#

Discord and driving? What’s wrong with you

mighty thicket
#

This game has a great potential, hopefully people really notice that it is an alpha still and we are here to test stuffs xD And to be honest I enjoyed it a lot while playing , let's see how things goes

tribal mountain
split jolt
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I agree 100% @mighty thicket the only issues is they added the PTR and I will bet you it was to keep from wiping it because streamers are flaky and will rage quite every single time there is a wipe. They should just leave Lyneth as a streamer server since it has the most of them on it and wipe the rest once a month if that be the case. I will gladly hop to another server and do some proper testing with some proper rates of gain and I will stream it all if they like. I am here for progress and helping fix the game to get it out the door is my primary goal.

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@young matrix check the ban list, if your not on it verify your game files and try again.

tribal mountain
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Read them

split jolt
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@young matrix They posted it per the request of streamers. Me see if I can find it one moment.

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Anytime, sorry it wouldn't allow me to post the link itself

tribal mountain
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Streamers sharing exploits should make that list

split jolt
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Normaly I would agree @yyg but those things are part of this and beta and if they share it more will do it and create a higher chance if it being fixed faster.

tribal mountain
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For sure I've stood by that in the past

split jolt
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The only thing one should be banned for in Alpha and Beta are hacks everything else is a highlight on issues to be fixed.

tribal mountain
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Subjective

tribal kernel
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And botting

tribal mountain
#

Where you draw the line between /bug reporting an exploiting and exploit is individual ethics

split jolt
#

When I was a GM for Mortal Online back in the day it being a sandbox mmo with full open world pvp bots were resolved by the community. Bot fishing on a cliff, players used the body blocking systems push action to shove them off cliffs that took like 30 minutes to get back from.

fresh smelt
#

The economy in the game is broken due to the bots and rmt. So can’t really test too much there until wipe.

tribal mountain
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One second gamer I'm enjoying your company but i can't pull over

split jolt
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@fresh smelt 100% thats why I suggested the whole npc with items and no cost crafting so those can be properly tested.

tribal mountain
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Bottings gonna bot. There are aspects of the game that revolve around bot scripts that are integrated into the system and cant be told apart.

split jolt
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A legacy server durrng this phase would be the best option per region. All other servers need to have wipe dates set to them and those servers have npc's with all resources and recipes for crafting on them with a boon for a 300% exp overall boost so proper testing can take place. Each big patch should result in a wipe so new data is not corrupted by old data creating the issues taking place with the last two patches we have had.

tribal mountain
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Auto clickers and recorded keyless macros from hardware are incorporated i to toggling auto attacking for example

split jolt
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@young matrix If your stuck in a que list you will have to just hang tight as the node could be down or full. @tribal mountain Most keyboards and mouse systems come with those options and would be crazy hard to detect and risky as they are part of the programs for their functions. WOW had to back off their anti cheat system because they were becoming to invasive and started to fringe upon privacy concerns. Cheaters will never be 100% removed but instead of bans the best option is to block their interaction capabilities with others and market places. Not for everyone just the single account restriction.

tribal mountain
split jolt
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I would probably have just used steams if I were them since it is on steam afterall.

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@young matrix after verification did you close the client all the way and relaunch it?

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on steam hit close game.

void oyster
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Open Steam Under settings Clear Download Cache it will restart , Verify Files then open Game

tribal mountain
#

Speaking of arch, kernel update 1010 in the repository

leaden plover
#

You need a DNS and you are free to choose one. If you don't, your internet provider will assign you one. There are several you can pick from, for example here is the cloudflare dns: 1.1.1.1

tribal mountain
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the playerbase is the best source of stonewalling themselves lol "link your logs"

wicked rain
#

"Don't break ToS, but if you do, we don't care."

tribal mountain
#

i was world top 50 brewmonks (out of 51 i know) for several seasons and the communities own feux stigma and meta chasing cause more time searching for parties than progressing

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tank class in AoC is Sandal1 'ing awesome though huge fan

carmine granite
#

Anyone gone after the 41 shrooms yet?

split jolt
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@tribal mountain I wasn't a big wow fan. I don't do well with people that like to try and control my gameplay. I played ffxi for a good minute but spent more time sending people to their homepoints for trying to dictate others gameplay than I care to remember. Tank class needs a pull in AOE skill imo. It can be annoying walking things around to get them gathered. I took tank and cleric to 20 bard to 15 fighter at 10 atm not many skills that I use that id need the exta points past 20.

tribal mountain
#

that Runescape though back in 2004 Loot Loot Loot Loot Loot

split jolt
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@tribal mountain The game nees an account storage and 3 more character slots or an option to change your archetype. The most of wow I played was on a private server where class skills were open to missmatch. I was accused of cheating multiple times for killing 4-6 people vs 1. I leveled from 1 to cap can't remember what it was I think 80 but once I hit cap I made another toon and did it again as I enjoyed it far more than mindless grinding of mobs and doing quests.

split jolt
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@tribal mountain I was an orch and they have the private server where you can choose skills from other class trees so you can make custome classes. Its a classless server.

tribal mountain
#

thats still strong whiffs of paladin talents eminating from your direction

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is turtlewow still getting sued or did they roll over?

split jolt
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dono never played on that one only the one that has made most of their own content

tribal mountain
#

matrix online was goated too back in the day, but it never made it out of alpha

split jolt
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Ascention classess was the one

tribal mountain
split jolt
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70 was the cap and pvp matches is the fastest way to level on it.

tribal mountain
#

hopefully all the WoW players will realize their game sucks and then Everquest will pop off again (and AoC of course)

split jolt
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Never played EQ I would like to see ffxi as a open world faction based pvp game lol

tribal mountain
#

there are still official EQ servers up, i highly reccomend it

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isnt it crazy though how once the servers come back online all the 5hit heads crying all morning stop posting FiBardA

eager crystal
#

Hi,New updates its 51gb?

tribal mountain
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depends on last time you logged on. it was 10gb

eager crystal
tribal mountain
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probably got a couple stacked in there then

eager crystal
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Sad .ty🤍

north cedar
#

I have a personal vendetta against the raptors now...

tribal mountain
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the one in the middle of the road connecting NA to TP?

potent arrow
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ill ask here cuz i cant seem to find the answer 😂 theres a quest at lvl8 with burried treasure, but i got it at lvl10, yet it tells me that my lvl is too high, requires lvl 8, and i cant interact with it? not sure if its good idea to levelgate quests 😐

ebon compass
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[EU]On the Tenok server, the president of Joeva treats everyone like dogs. He arbitrarily increases the sales tax of the largest shopping mall to 25%. When we ask him why, he says, "This is my place, I'll do what I want, am I going to ask you?"

solemn zodiac
dreamy hornet
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anyone elses mouse just flicking in and out really fast randomly

proud mural
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what do I need to get the right to write feedback?

real patio
deep flicker
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Is it a known issue where town storage temporarily disappears? Its happened to me twice now. Is their a way other than waiting to fix it?

lavish fjord
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Wipe still gonna happen? Any updates on when?

brazen shard
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NUKE THE DAMN SERVERS

bitter mauve
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yo where can I rebind the default F I cant find it in keybind menu?

leaden plover
torn glade
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Is citizen repetition bugged? I don’t see any progress.

leaden plover
torn glade
leaden plover
torn glade
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Got it

leaden plover
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Delivering construction crates should work too, but I personally never have done that

earnest belfry
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dont farm the pride mount on vyra or you will get banned by apex they will just spam report your 3 hunters in your guild and get them banned its clear cheating and favortism by admins

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i dont see how this is fair

brazen shard
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bc youre a peyon...they dont ccare about us lol

earnest belfry
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i know its so anoying every one in my guild is quiteing a 100 man guild just gone becase there is no point now

verbal flicker
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where can I find Volcrist Emblems?

leaden plover
grim garden
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how to report player using cheat mount speed like 2x

earnest belfry
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@leaden plover nope they did nothing wrong littly put in proof and videos of us talking while playing and they still got perm banned

leaden plover
hazy sandal
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Man i cant figure out how to complete this quest Search for signs of Halbert

void yarrow
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isnt that like one of beginner quests for lionhold area?

hazy sandal
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it is a begininer quest, i googled it apparently its bugged or something idk...

earnest belfry
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@leaden plover they have apealed it i do believe them they where streaming at the time so i know for sure they werent botting why would they risk 3 lvl 25 acounts with all jman hunting and tameing

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they still said the ban stays even tho they sent in proof of the stream and them talking to the guys who reported them it just they are permently baned never to play the game again for no reason

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but yet you can go to the pride mount right noowww and there are botters there all day and every one reports them and they dont get banned clipsss of people flying around no bans? i see the same guys every day just botting nohting is done but actual player getting banned comon

void yarrow
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probably trying to get rid of the botters in the beginner area first, then they will move on once if becomes apparent they are messing with the market.

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In all honesty, each account has to pay, so bots they ban is kinda funny.]

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Botting in an Alpha game though, shows you are just greedy, and cant do it.

earnest belfry
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how is never being able to play agian funny they had maxed acounts and 400 hours into the game they cant even play the game when it comes out now

void yarrow
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they broke the rules.. read em.. not that hard.

earnest belfry
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they where not botting

void yarrow
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If you cant play the game as a person, why should everyone else have to suffer that does?

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got proof of that? Im pretty sure they go be keystrokes, and its easy to see who are.

earnest belfry
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they where live streaming the whole time the whole guild was watching as they where farming us pride mounts only got 1 and a guy threated them if they did not leave they would report them for botting and they where like go haead buddy we arent

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they def dont go off key strokes my guy or there would be no botters

void yarrow
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It is possible to talk on a bot, not uncommon, did so with OSRS, and account is active to this day.

earnest belfry
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ok just becase you bot dosnt mean my guys do

leaden plover
earnest belfry
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yea botters do that all the time witch we report and they are still in the sky

void yarrow
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youre just in denial of what they did, may not have done it at the time of the ban, but they did previously.

earnest belfry
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@void yarrow nope they did not bot i was watching my self and they have never botted

void yarrow
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I will admit, every game does allow a certain amout of bot, to stabalize the economy, but cmon.. its shit here lately..\

leaden plover
earnest belfry
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yess i agree with that i dont mind i know the bot sites pay out the game owners but they never let them fly arond

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@leaden plovernope in the terms of service it states if you make another aocunt you will get banned again

void yarrow
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sorry, i never got the gist of why they were banned.

earnest belfry
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the biggest guild on the server was farming the pride mount and so where they and they where out farming them a couple of times they told them to leave or els they woudl report them my guys luaghed and said go ahead beacuse they thought nothing would come of it so the guild of 400 spam reported them

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they have sub guilds before you say anything

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i just want my guys to play the game again most of our clan has quite becase of it if you can just get banned for playing they gona wait till release

void yarrow
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Ah.. well.. yea thats a shit tactic for the other guilds id say.. unfortunately, they dont look at the guild/player doing the reporting.

earnest belfry
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they apealed it and all and still says the perm banned staying even after mulitple people uploaded proof

void yarrow
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Call the company and sue them if you know, for a fact, that you did nothing wrong.

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The games Anti-cheat system is a joke.

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However, remember, its is still in alpha..

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These are a lot of dishonest players in these types of games unfortunately.. they just trying to make it P2W

earnest belfry
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i all mmos there will be bots its just how it gose and i understand that just not fair my guys got banned for playing the game the legit way when actual botters get the free pass

void yarrow
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Wont deny you that fact.. which server?

earnest belfry
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vyra

void yarrow
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Yea.. lots of stuff going on on that sever...

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Thats why i stcik to Resna

leaden plover
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Vyra lost me in about 60 minutes

velvet wyvern
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Anyone know if the Hammer of Kuu'shuu actually drops from Kuu'shuu or just the recipe?

carmine granite
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I just want it to be known that bull crocs are assholes.

leaden plover
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Someone got eaten

woven mauve
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hi guys we are in alpha right now if we go in beta everything will be reset like gold and lvl of char ?

vale lantern
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Wow update is like taking FOREVER

somber quiver
verbal patio
pale marten
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this game is so weird, donno where to go what to do even hard to kill a mob 😄

somber quiver
verbal patio
somber quiver
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Of course there will be a wipe.... i never said the game wont wipe.

hallow kiln
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Hey quick question - what would be the best profession that you think is the most profitable (scribe, food making, jeweler, etc.)?

ashen yew
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admins can u give me role to send u videos from bots? chinese destroy community

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they run auto crate mule run

vestal osprey
wooden python
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sad this game will die cus of the scripters 🙁

broken haven
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How do i recover my ship if i got disconnected?

golden tulip
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beta wipe has not been officially confirmed

viral fjord
wooden python
viral fjord
nova shell
# viral fjord <@198730502616776704> just wondering what is clownlike about his statement ? pe...

That is a incredibly strange assumption sir.

I don't want bots, or RMT'ers at all, they're nothing but shit houses - i hope that clarifies things for you

I haven't said there isn't bots? I haven't said they're not an issue?..... again, straight to assumptions, which is really strange. I have some faith in intrepid, i have faith that they are honeypotting the botters as they say they are. Banning them all manually is not cost affective, time affective, and ultimately not affective at all. Bots just come straight back on their stolen CC's. Learning from them, watching them, honeypotting them, and observing them ESPECIALLY DURING AN ALPHA is, in my opinion, the best thing to be doing. This gives them a chance to build robust systems moving forward to catch the bots more effectively. They also wouldn't make all the information available to the public as to exactly how they're combatting them, because then the bots would know exactly what intrepid are doing to combat them, and stay one step ahead again.

Active GM's plus a robust well made system - which should be in for BETA, as per Steven, should be a more affective tool.

I simply think "game gonna die because bots" is clownish behaviour.

Could i be wrong? absolutely, and if i am, more fool me. I'm a grown adult that bought into early access alpha, at a risk. If it dies due to botting and intrepid do nothing, I move on to the next game. Sitting in the newcomer chat saying "game gonna die cuz bots", is incredibly useless, too everyone, including the game 🙂

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plus, MMo's and games in general have huge issues with bots, osrs banned 500k in december 2025 alone, it's a tough battle 🙂

i think patience and grace is needed right now 🙂

viral fjord
# nova shell That is a incredibly strange assumption sir. I don't want bots, or RMT'ers at ...

Woah ?! defensive much? you may want to see a therapist before you release volume 2 that being said hes entitled to voice his concern, i don't see him spamming it he is allowed to give feed back . So i think you are slightly illusioned, the core systems you mentioned are actually a breeding ground for RMT the time its taken to start dealing with bots is the time it takes me to train people and have them run a RTCS to completion on ethical hacking. the problem is method not action, bailing a boat with a hole in it eventually leads to sinking ^_^

nova shell
# viral fjord Woah ?! defensive much? you may want to see a therapist before you release volum...

You literally asked me to expand on my opinion, and accused me of botting or RMT'ing. I said i don't bot, and gave a detailed reason as to why i think sitting in newcomers chat saying "game gonna die cuz bots" is clownish behaviour, whether you say it once, twice, or 15 times, it's principle.

you've basically agreed with me, i've said going round manually banning bots is useless, this fits your boat analogy perfectly. You find out why there's holes, and fix them, not just bail the water. (you oberve bots to learn from them, to fix the route problem, not just ban them)?

Like i say, i could absolutely be wrong. But logically, i dont think intrepid, especially mr steven, would spend a decade devving this game, investing millions of dollars, to just let bots overrun the game in alpha. I'm assuming there is some logic to what they're doing, and im trusting they're building something more robust to combat, rather then having mods fly around with a ban hammer. Just kinda like OSRS is doing, and 20 years later, they're still banning 500k bots a month. The proofs in the pudding.

If they let it just fail due to bots, more fool me, more fool them, i move onto the next game, it's really quite simple.

Also, if you can train people so quickly to combat these issues, go help intrepid out, or, go make a game yourself and show us all how easy it is to do 😉

south monolith
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stolen CC's, if this statement was remotely true, then Valve would be all over this and would have to report all this as fraud. There would be more rigorous checks for suspicious accounts etc etc.

nova shell
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gold farming is, and always has been, very closely linked to CC fraud, unfortunately

south monolith
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The reason no company has stopped botting, is because they don't stop them early enough. They wouldn't Bot if the costs were higher than what they make. It's simple as fuck, but no company cares, as they all make money from botting in one way or another

viral fjord
nova shell
# south monolith The reason no company has stopped botting, is because they don't stop them early...

so with that logic, would taking their time during alpha be best practise? Or they'll be in OSRS position of having to ban 500k bots a month 20 years down the line?

Like i say mate, i could absolutely be wrong, and intrepid could be being lazy, and it could kill the game. but for now, i just dont think that's the case. And, if i'm wrong, that's on me. I think i hold a fair enough position. This chap just resorts to "go see a therapist" which is just strange

viral fjord
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oh the ignore function is golden i dont have to see even more crazy in the world than i need to ^_^

deft sphinx
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Hello- i just downloaded the game yestrday and it was in maintinance and then now i start the game it started downloading from the beginning is that happens ?!

exotic bolt
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Not normally mannyz, my guess would be that you downloaded the patch that they had to revert, so the game has to redownload to verify you got the correct files. Its not a normal occurence

deft sphinx
exotic bolt
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That sounds likely, I've had corrupted files happen that has caused a verification at 75% before.

teal ridge
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Debating what server to join, also do alts share storage?

exotic bolt
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Want a small or big, and no they don't, the only thing that is account locked is citizenship to a town

solid kindle
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Are the ships account shared ?

exotic bolt
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I don't know about ships, sorry

modern forge
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Good morning everyone

exotic bolt
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Morning ^^

deft sphinx
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Unf the game is downloading again idk why @exotic bolt

viral fjord
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however strange to think the revert wasnt logged as the initial patch

exotic bolt
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Yeah it's the only thing I can think of too DW but I'm hardly educated in software distribution

brazen shard
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You know a game is imploding when people are blowing up a newcomer chat all bc they don’t want to verify through discord haha

exotic bolt
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I've tried to verify yesterday tbf, still waiting for it to go through but can't mess with it while I'm on my phone ^^

outer pier
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Anyone knows how to play on the PTR? realms are always down for me

exotic bolt
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They're only turned on for specific test periods I think they're not always active

glacial talonBOT
forest sluice
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Just saying hi

tribal pivot
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hi there

limber marlin
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I'm lost.. i bought the game on steam and i can't play it. It says Realms are currently down. Like for a small update and they will be back up or do i need to go buy some other edition to get access?

mild vigil
limber marlin
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i cant post my screen snip. I just keep getting the same "Realms are down. If you have Alpha Two access please click here."

mild vigil
limber marlin
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It seems buying it on steam gives me two tittles one AoC and one AoC PTR and this PTR got installed first and now the actual AoC is downloading...

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back to doomscrolling until the game is ready again xD ty for the assist tho Olie

leaden plover
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PTR aka Public Test Realm is just for testing new stuff and is down most of the time

languid cobalt
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Vyra server offline? error 37 here can't login

native hearth
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Wow, they use the lack of guards inside the town hall to build walls with tankers so they can't get out, and they attack the mules with the ranger to steal the trade and sell it

leaden plover
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devious

bitter mauve
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the system tray/console keeps popping up randomly and I have no idea how to disable it or where I can rebind it so it stops randomly showing up

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it doesnt seem to pop up from the same keybind or key sequence either I'll just be auto running and not clicking anything and it will randomly pop up

native hearth
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There are frequent cases of exploiting vulnerabilities in the game, so I don't want to play this game anymore.

shell stone
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why did i become corrupted after i killed a purple players mount? we were both flagged

forest sluice
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sounds right to me

humble bough
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how do you report people? is a guild speedhacking crate mounts on Vyra?

outer yew
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how do freshwater sport fishing events spawn? yesterday the joeave lake had back to back to back spawns non stop with almost 0 downtime and now there's none for housr

surreal sky
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is it possible to RESTORE Treasure Maps and sell them? it trook me hours to geht everything to together,.. then restored it...and it is now in myy quest log.. 🙁

earnest current
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Do anyone know if Build on Blood Quest is bugged cant seem to get any Vaelune Artifacts (Quest Items) : /

topaz blade
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If people weren't already unsure to buy AoC, they definitely are now after what happened with the patch 😂

solemn zodiac
surreal sky
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no i am sorry. it has never been used. just pressed "craft" Button.. and bottom right i saw in went to myy inventory.. i alreadyy had the inventoryy open.. it went directlyy to quest window

glacial gale
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if you logout in joeva it stills put you in queue?

leaden plover
glacial gale
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so it will be better to cancel the queue and keep trying again until i get less queue?

leaden plover
leaden plover
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It's the internal name for The Anvils

winged dawn
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Anyway know what server for NA is most populated?

solemn escarp
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Does anyone know if AoC is going fully live this year? I just want to play knowing there's no more character wipes happening.

leaden plover
solar dome
tribal kernel
twin nest
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I will only come back to this dog game if there is a wipe, ping me when there is one

tribal kernel
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You will log in tonight. 🤣

twin nest
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actually ?

real patio
nova shell
valid violet
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MERGE RESNA PLZ @sharp stone

digital mountain
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refund

real patio
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I'm curious .. all you merge people, you do realize that a merge pretty much is going to suck right? One server will basically have to get fucked on everything from citizenship and mayors to storage and items brought over. Like it's basically a wipe of most your progress

tribal kernel
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“Vera is still growing” yeah with hundreds if not thousands of bots per day 😂

nova shell
valid violet
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@real patio lol you're right ill just stay on resna where econ is fucked and you cant find pvp or groups for anything

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straight bots lol @nova shell @real patio

timber elk
grizzled turtle
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Games sht

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Time for dark n darker

full bough
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“That doesn’t mean you should accept broken systems or unclear direction”

© 2024 Intrepid Studios. All rights reserved.

Systems still broken, no hint at what is going to change, just a vague “we are working on it”, and no direction given.

Wild, thanks for the acknowledgement that your game sucks right now, we already knew. What are ya gonna do about it?

real patio
old oak
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hi there, could you recommend any solo spot for leveling 18-20 ?

tribal kernel
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SB bears

old oak
tribal kernel
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Look it up man

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Solo you won’t find anywhere decent. Find a steel bloom bears party

past nest
# old oak hi there, could you recommend any solo spot for leveling 18-20 ?

Depending on your class and how compitent you are, you could go down to the desert and farm the Najash, they're 20-23 1-3 star elites. Their combat rotation is easily learnable but they do still tend to smack you around. Good glint, drops DjinnBlessed emblems and recipes. I advise my guild members on this and tell them to use it as a milestone leveling spot, since once you can kill 1 of them you can single pull and skirt the outside in a crescent loop for hours. Careful of the scorpions until you're strong enough, they have cost many lives.

mild vigil
mint kite
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I cannot create Bug or Issue, my character is keep flagging for PVP automatically. I died 3-4 times but it keeps happening. I tried to leave the Corruption event but no avail....

past nest
full bough
mild vigil
nova shell
full bough
full bough
mild vigil
# full bough Do you feel better about the state of the game after reading the newsletter?

No. its not meant to make anyone feel better about the state of the game. It does communicate they have heard the vast amount of complaints and feedback that has been given. It also servers as a reminder to those that, while passionate about the game, need a reality check about exactly what "Open Development" actually is. And then, it ends with a reschedule of the stream, which isnt a huge deal. Better to be ready and have a good one, than a rushed crappy one.

old oak
full bough
# mild vigil No. its not meant to make anyone feel better about the state of the game. It d...

Here’s what I think will happen; they will talk about bots and mention that they are working “diligently” to ban the bots, but will go into a huge tangent about how difficult of a problem it is and how the bots evade detection, a quick summary of how botters will adapt once they know what “triggered” the ban, so they do the bans in waves.

They will also mention changes to crates, caravans, that are being “worked on” but won’t dive into any specifics about it because it’s “too early to say anything”. Most likely, they will flag you for carrying crates, and then simultaneously nerf the rewards, making them useless.

The bugs, performance problems, and stability will be acknowledged and explained away as “alpha problems”, and Steven will say something like “as we near Beta, things will start to come together and feel better to play, but for now EMBRACE THE SUCK”

They will release a rough roadmap, and their very first bullet point will be delayed by several months before being integrated into the game in a broken state.

That’s what I think will happen. I’ll save it in a notepad and we can see if I was right or not after the 13th 🤷🏼‍♂️

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I want the game to succeed but yeah my faith has been eviscerated by a lack of clear progress and to me, every added system makes the game feel worse to play. The same bugs have existed for a year+. It’s depressing

mild vigil
plucky rune
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How do I get access to post in my servers channel?

full bough
mild vigil
mild vigil
past nest
modern forge
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Dang was looking forward to the dev stream tomorrow too 🙁

still kite
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Is there anyway for the devs to change the unstuck to not drop your mats? 😑 especially when my guys falling through the floor

void oyster
leaden plover
nova shell
crystal lintel
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YO WHERES NEW CONTENT

nova shell
granite gull
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With the mount being given away for load testing the "PTR"........ aren't we by definition, on the PTR?

nova shell
serene helm
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🙂

solemn zodiac
past bronze
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.

potent mesa
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leo

latent crown
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Hello

quaint root
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Hi

dull ore
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How can even attend this ptr stuff. It will be at 4am in my timezone

honest sinew
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hihi

brave marsh
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hi

nova shell
acoustic tinsel
#

apparently theres so little to do once u hit lv25, there have been 2 players harassing me for almost 2 hours now, following me around, hitting me and waiting for me to log back in when i logged out for 30 mins

languid cobalt
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how do I download ptr?

granite gull
stiff bough
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How's everyone doing

neat harness
#

Good thanks hope you are well too Voltagewinds

mortal timber
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Hello everyone

winter ravine
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Need PTR testing to happenw hen im not at work

tribal kernel
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@tepid moon I have a job and can’t make PTR dung beetle mount time. Will we at least get notes on what’s being tested or do we need to wait till after PTR to know what’s being tested and added just as patch notes come?

tepid moon
cunning river
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@tepid moon There seems to be an issue with password resetting on intrepid website, I am not getting the reset link email to link my discord with my AOC account.

tepid moon
cunning river
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I tried a few different browsers, mobile and PC. Just not getting the reset email, I will create a ticket for it though.

grave willow
#

Anyone else concerned with player count?

mild vigil
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Not really. Players come and go. Even with fully launched games, they play, then move on for a bit. Right now there is a lack of content for many, and alot of things that need alot of work. So, people take breaks.

lucid swan
#

name

urban glen
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hello

digital roost
#

anyone know if there's a bug on mobs not dropping quest items or is it just a crazy grind

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im only lvl 4 stuck on quest Hand-Eye Coordination

magic dove
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Hi

real patio
indigo pollen
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this one is bugged

digital roost
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new to mmos lol i picked a great game to start

real patio
#

Yeah. Just have the mindset that this is a developmental alpha phase and try to have fun while reporting everything you find even if it's a known bug. The more data they get the better chance it actually gets fixed

digital roost
#

oh steam says early access not an alpha i should have looked into it deeper

still kite
sacred solstice
#

I haven't played for a month, is everything going better?

leaden plover
neat harness
leaden plover
#

Just watching me falling and at some point I got back up to the surface, took a bit of glitching around and then I finally stood on the ground

real patio
# digital roost oh steam says early access not an alpha i should have looked into it deeper

Well you have access now so enjoy learning and give feedback. Best part is you can literally just mess around with out having to care about metas since it will all get wiped before launch and probably a few times before it. They are going a PTR test during the day tomorrow too if you have time. It's going to be much more focused on things with the devs giving us things to test asking with level and gear boosts

gusty jewel
rough sparrow
#

.

random stone
#

Hi

maiden wharf
#

hi

lapis quartz
supple whale
#

Rogue with mace shield plays totally different from daggers shortbow and I love it

dark knot
#

👋

graceful agate
timber elk
jagged peak
#

hello

tropic oxide
#

yo yo

tropic oxide
verbal flicker
#

why cant i type in other chats

jolly briar
#

yes

glacial talonBOT
solemn zodiac
glacial talonBOT
verbal flicker
#

Gotit!

glossy whale
#

I'm pretty new, but does it seem strange to anyone else to offer a mount for a 'stress test' that takes place in the middle of a working day that anyone with a job couldn't possibly participate in?

leaden plover
wicked rain
#

Be

glossy whale
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I mean, I have to work weekends sometimes, and if you wanted to 'stress test' the servers, wouldn't you want as many people as possible to...you know...stress test it? Or is this targeted at EU servers, cause then that would make sense, it being prime time there at 11am PST.

zealous zodiac
#

what is gonna be in the ptr class combos?

unique sigil
#

we have pvp arena (colosium) at town?

solemn zodiac
nova ocean
#

how to report bot? so many lv 20 bot ruining the game

solemn zodiac
old heath
#

Hello everyone 😄

iron birch
#

Ahoy

old heath
#

How is the game looking? I heard it's free to play on Steam now?

solemn zodiac
#

Free fiddy if you already had an alpha key from earlier testing/kickstart/etc. Just gotta link your steam account on their site. Opinions vary wildly, but it's very much an alpha, so a bunch of stuff is in various states of funky or broken. Overall, I've been enjoying it

meager linden
#

Looking for players on lyneth

neat raven
#

Is Hunting Quality worth investing in? Some people say it doesn’t work at all, is this true?

proud remnant
#

yo guys , Gilded Scarab reward to prt or official sever ?

tawny shoal
#

any AUSSIE pve guilds that are newcomer friendly please dm me invite

unkempt sparrow
#

question, is there a livestream today, or will that happen now in february? and why is the discord still bugged / we dont get roles....

gloomy kiln
#

Think it was delayed until February

kind totem
#

!connect

glacial talonBOT
limpid zinc
#

that letter was shit 🤣

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no mention of actual skill and spell development, game is completely gear dependant. maybe boost and buff spells and skills and nerf gear

floral juniper
kind totem
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Sounds like an issue

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Since it works for 95% of people

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I recommend opening a ticket.

tardy steeple
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I had auth working for a long time, i took a break and now when i rejoined it seems gone.

Disc linked to acc and i can still play the game normally.

First thing i did was to see if there was any "react to this msg for access" but even after toggling the news react and my language i still cant type in A2 channels.

surreal sonnet
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!help

glacial talonBOT
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sacred slate
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Woop

cosmic ledge
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Petition to close subreddit. Such a whiny place, hate to see it when algo recommends me posts from there. Game has a lot of potential and I enjoy playing it with my friends

past nest
vivid marlin
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PTR Day W

urban gate
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Cool

tardy steeple
red edge
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Hello

nova shell
valid marlin
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!Connect

glacial talonBOT
split jolt
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So when is the server wipe coming with a patch to fix the drop rate and a 100% exp bonus added to the shrine so we can get this show on the road with fixing bugs?

cedar chasm
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321

bitter moth
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hello everybody

tall abyss
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hi 🙂

lean radish
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is there anyone left on resna who can help me to get level 25 i been in lfg the last 8 days looking for a group im lvl 22 i been looking for a while it feels like its mainly just bots now or people who are already lvl 25 i traveled all over the map looking for groups in steelbloom and more can anyone help me im needing help i go to wendsted its all bots or people standing at market i been to like 6 diffent towns and fighting areas its mainly bots farming or people selling gold adv websites in my server and its annoying getting told i have duped gear i can sell u but if u lose it from devs its not my fault like wtf im just getting annoyed at this point help me someone PLS

split jolt
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That is why I stopped leveling all 3 of my toons as 20. Too slow to solo the rest of the way and not worth it imo

daring hinge
lean radish
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as im spamming in LFG or worldchat looking for a team but its pointless at that point becuz bots spamm out the chat and everything i said is gone with in 5 secs of just chat spams every 15 secs or 30 secs its annoying lol im not trying to talk bad about the game its a fun game just looking for people to help me level theres just a bunch of lvl 25 red skulls running around my server killing all farmers or botters and they dont care if ur a bot or not they just kill u too lol its hard

daring hinge
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Level 20 is easy to achieve, you could always start on another server ^^

With the Knowledge you got you can do it more efficient than playing from 0