#newcomer-chat

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vast lake
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I'm freeeeeeeee

vapid pivot
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can log into the forums everyone but linking account i cant not ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

north musk
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realms are down?

tepid hinge
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what should i choose here?

obtuse musk
#

Its working guys! its a miracle

wary magnet
open totem
#

the second boss is crazy guys

hollow ibex
#

VICTORY

floral grail
warm lodge
tawny swift
uneven quest
#

Lmao

hoary latch
north musk
#

see

wary magnet
steep kiln
# tawny swift

Iโ€™m in the bus guys, donโ€™t start without me please

dense acorn
turbid tundra
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site รถldรผฤŸ

static shuttle
#

another one for the collection log! we got css folks!

humble inlet
#

Finally link my account and get this message

delicate night
#

how do i fix this?>

copper osprey
fickle nest
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linked steam account now I'm getting the next error in the quest to log into this game

cloud flume
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504 is the WAY

noble leaf
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unplugit

wooden fox
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Funny how they bombed there own game with negative reviews because they dont know how to handle a website...

river saddle
solemn plume
sturdy lark
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i have 5.6h played apparantly

floral grail
round arrow
#

Bro.....................

gleaming yoke
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I wonder if theyll fix this in a few days

candid halo
undone dock
regal epoch
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IT'S FIXED

wary magnet
earnest lily
shy wagon
#

My wife is home from the hospital after giving birth to my child (completely missed for launch) wtf, how am i not in yet

steep kiln
river saddle
spare vine
tribal reef
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@gritty elk cmon boss man lemme in here

wooden fox
sturdy lark
warm mica
#

wait theres still ppl who arent in?

dim sierra
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What's the link for the page to connect with steam ?

regal epoch
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got to finally sign in through steam, started validating sign in, then gateway errorSadge

wintry glen
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oo i got to this

primal zinc
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damn guess i should of gotten into alpha to play

steep kiln
quaint badger
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@gritty elk is a .... lets use emoji guys

shy wagon
solemn plume
# earnest lily Whatโ€™s the issue?

Server capacity, overwhelming traffic, database bottlenecks, security measures meant to stop abuse, connecting 3rd party services to internal servers (steam connection and accounst etc). There are a lot of things going on here not just "website issues".

wooden fox
wary magnet
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account connected, now im on phase 2 of the boss

rare moat
runic venture
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IT WORKED!

dim sierra
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What's the link for the page to connect with steam ?

pale roost
rotund depot
cloud flume
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it doesnt even show up it only says discord ... where is steam to link up?

scenic lake
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Got to a new phase of the launch boss. Now it says servers are down lol

solemn plume
spare vine
delicate night
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is this the new boss

rain thistle
quaint badger
atomic lark
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the challenger space shuttle had a better launch than this game

wooden fox
dim sierra
runic venture
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6 hours lateri get in and it says realms are down LLMAO

wintry glen
spare vine
sturdy lark
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5.6h counted, all in trying to link accounts. finally i can lay my eyes on the queue number

delicate night
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how do we get past this? anybody make it?

viral fjord
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are the servers down ?

grave river
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dude they need to fix this website bruh

wary magnet
simple plover
steep kiln
dim sierra
vocal silo
twin lagoon
scenic lake
wooden fox
sturdy lark
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realms are down โค๏ธ

grave river
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there isnt that many players trying to do this......there maybe a few thousand only 20k are even playing rn

unique girder
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They dont need you to actually play the game they got your money already lol

rain thistle
spare vine
sullen orbit
lethal dagger
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finally got steam linked and now realms are down?

wintry glen
steep kiln
regal lake
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Listen very closely. Attempt to connect your account. If you are able to get past that and it brings you to the "sign into steam screen" you need to COPY THAT STEAM LOGIN URL. That way aafter you log into steam and it attempts to connect your account, if it fails you can just repaste that link and try again over and over without getting stuck on ashes webpage

fallow valley
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6 hours

solemn plume
floral grail
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Game awards start soon, sit comfortable n enjoy it while waiting for AoC ๐Ÿ˜‰

golden tulip
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ok accoints connexted

rain thistle
wintry glen
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i wonder if its just 1 or 2 dudes in a basement coding all this

honest summit
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love when people post a time like we haven't all been waiting the same length of time cool story shut up and keep clicking the button

delicate night
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I got in

steep kiln
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I donโ€™t want to play anymore, I enjoy memes and emojis here

spare vine
regal lake
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proof that it worked for me

Listen very closely. Attempt to connect your account. If you are able to get past that and it brings you to the "sign into steam screen" you need to COPY THAT STEAM LOGIN URL. That way aafter you log into steam and it attempts to connect your account, if it fails you can just repaste that link and try again over and over without getting stuck on ashes webpage

floral grail
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FUCK ME, jus started waching Game Awards n got in xD

golden tulip
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now in a real queue I guess

hoary latch
#

WE IN

sturdy lark
wooden fox
boreal galleon
honest summit
peak jasper
uneven quest
#

howwww

golden tulip
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realms are currently down message ๐Ÿ™

hoary latch
ocean nimbus
#

that is a good looking IT/THEY

torpid kindle
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

solemn plume
rare moat
#

THIS is what im getting now how fun

rotund depot
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Finally

boreal galleon
mortal needle
sturdy lark
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progress

vagrant bear
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i love this f5 simulator

dense acorn
golden tulip
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keep at it higgs I think we are winning

obsidian briar
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I DID IT BOYS

peak jasper
visual kraken
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grats big w

twin lagoon
round arrow
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โค๏ธ

toxic heron
cunning trout
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No option to link to steam

gray meteor
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Any1 else getting black screen freeze while pc still running? this happens randomly

steep kiln
wooden fox
last holly
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Error (unable to authenticate to Intrepid Cloud Services. Please try again after a few moments [4]... I have just to wait?

boreal galleon
sturdy tide
golden tulip
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So how did people get past the realms are down statement just keep trying ?

rotund depot
balmy orbit
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i LINKED THEM!!!

regal lake
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@tepid moon

solemn plume
uneven quest
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i get 504 gateway error

cunning trout
sturdy tide
junior meteor
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jesus 6 hours into launch still not fixed? Is it the same guy doing eveything or what?

devout vortex
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how are yall connecting them when the launcher says you need alpha 2 access lol

balmy orbit
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Finally linked them and now this????

buoyant basin
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Chat do click sign in again after launcher gives an error or do we restart it?

stoic scroll
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bruh how is the website still down

visual kraken
golden tulip
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no idea that is the new end boss

sturdy mortar
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ahi esta gente

heady sphinx
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2221 in queue estimated time 1 min?

uneven quest
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what is there 2 chimps working on the website

spare vine
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Someone is vigorously unplugging and plugging in an ethernet cable right now, thats whats causing this

mortal needle
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now i get this after connecting the accout with steam

wooden fox
honest summit
steep kiln
devout vortex
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alright I didnt successfully link my account but its letting me in...

sturdy lark
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they seems to have fixed the linking problem, but realm down is next

solemn plume
left ridge
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The boss has another phase I see

jade iris
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I am logged into website finally, I donnot see steam listed on connections. any ideas?

boreal galleon
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might as well watch some tv on the side while waiting in Que ๐Ÿ˜„

winter glen
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nice for some of u

rare moat
golden tulip
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ok mine just worked I did nothing different

sturdy lark
rotund depot
lethal dagger
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i think im in!

visual kraken
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ok dont even try to authenticate email, go for the steam linking

lilac spade
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๐Ÿ‘€

waxen plaza
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OMG I just got in! Website and servers are working

cunning trout
wooden fox
coral vortex
boreal galleon
modest plinth
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funny that i can't login on the website, but the shop is available... lmao

sand tusk
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Mine keeps saying relams down

solemn bramble
sand iron
regal epoch
steep kiln
strange fog
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still cant connect the steam xddddddddd

sullen orbit
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keep trying ifit says realms are down. Fifth time was the charm lol

lilac spade
rare moat
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GOD DANG IT STARTED TO CONNECT AND THEN ERROR

balmy orbit
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On a bright note, I can leave my lauchher on for a long time and say that after many hours of play I will give this game a.........

golden tulip
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ok that may be a good sign

sturdy lark
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i can't decide if i should get more caffeine or just go to bed

twin lagoon
clear bough
strange fog
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@gritty elk for the TWO times do something xd

golden tulip
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I don't think I've chatted with people in a game this much since eq1

sturdy lark
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oh shit its launching for me, gl down there boys im going up. SOLONG

cunning trout
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ok, so now I'm getting the realms are currently down message in the launcher

heady sphinx
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i still cant link

stoic scroll
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been waiting since launch to link classic

lyric surge
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Anyone can advise best recommended EU server?

grave river
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still cant link to to errors on the website here as well

golden tulip
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launch game window see ya folks and good luck I did nothing special it just finally worked

jade iris
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im logged into website. I dont see STEAM on account connections. Any ideas?

honest summit
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yall just love to share huh cool dude you can't link and get 504 amazing story i'll write that down in my feelings journal

sturdy lark
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isn't there just one EU server?

shy wagon
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I may or may not crash out

solemn bramble
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realms down? what does that even mean

hard zealot
heady sphinx
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@lyric surgethe one you can get on

wicked sparrow
wintry glen
lyric surge
grave river
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504 Gateway Time-out

sturdy tide
solemn island
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finally get my account linked

toxic heron
wary urchin
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When I party hunt, the monsters don't drop anything. Do they not drop anything unless I hit them?

drifting sparrow
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Anyone else get the notification that the realms are down?

rare moat
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i have 5 tabs open and keep refreshing LOL

earnest lily
solemn bramble
grave river
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504 Gateway Time-out

gleaming yoke
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why does it say "authorization from launch not found" whem I try to link the damn thing

wintry glen
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Im IN! ๐Ÿ˜„

errant parcel
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how can they bypass 504 ;))

boreal galleon
rare moat
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502?????

mortal needle
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still stuck with the connection and now its just loading 24/7

solemn bramble
spare vine
drifting sparrow
frank pagoda
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Wtf you guys still not in ?

uneven quest
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they gonna give us an update more than every 3 hours or what

fickle flare
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so if i get the authentication error i hsould just keep trying then??

gleaming yoke
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restart the launcher and try again and again and again and again

grave river
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504 Gateway Time-out

orchid thicket
fickle flare
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sweet it worked now

lapis crater
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Finally!

uneven quest
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no chance

solemn bramble
faint urchin
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Weโ€™re cooking

unkempt zealot
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it work !!!!

earnest lily
shy wagon
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We're cooking, we're cooking!

scenic lake
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Failed to connect. Code51. What a tease. Made my char and everything,.

runic venture
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same

uneven quest
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the account link takes me to gateway error after i log in

old carbon
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after defeating the download boss and the queue boss, Im getting this

lapis crater
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๐Ÿซถ

regal epoch
open totem
wintry glen
high swift
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how is this at 6 straight hours

solemn bramble
toxic heron
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What if they don't let you into the game on purpose so that you can't get your money back. And after the time "After which you can't get your money back" has passed, they'll let you in )

modern charm
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WTF IS ERROR CODE 51

wheat moat
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Its called being a new release with over thousands of players trying to join at once. ^-^

copper osprey
solemn plume
rare moat
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bro i just want to link my account and PLAY

devout vortex
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so can we not get in

wary lily
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lets go

golden tulip
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ahah new quesue boss but looks an easy one

ornate sundial
warm gulch
winter glen
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time for bed , waited fucking 6 hours , jesus MF

steep kiln
muted field
rare moat
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i am sorry but 6 hours to fix a website couldn't be this problematic :(

unkempt zealot
faint urchin
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Ah I think everyone going back on to try again killed it lmao

golden tulip
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hmm queue boss may be easy but has lots of HP

wheat moat
#

Hm, how long would you say it takes to get through a 352 queue? Troll comments will not be replied to.

earnest lily
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67 seconds

honest summit
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HHAHA OMG YOU CALLED THE QUEUE A BOSS THAT'S NOT ONLY HILARIOUS IT'S ALSO VERY ORIGINAL

wanton abyss
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I got all the way to the steam connect page and then it disconnected

celest relic
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ITS WORKING !!!

old blaze
#

How long does it sit on the Validating Steam Connection page?

devout vortex
#

anyone know how to get past error 51

wintry glen
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dont get too excited. once you create the character, you can't connect.

fickle flare
#

Anyoneknowwhat error code 51 is?

wheat moat
golden tulip
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maybe 30 secs to 1 min

toxic heron
steep tusk
rare moat
paper tinsel
#

Sweet nectar

honest summit
golden tulip
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oh right I connected but found a queue oh the connection thing is after the queue ?

clever lagoon
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Website still borked canโ€™t link acc

manic jolt
faint urchin
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Try again a few times itโ€™s starting to work

paper tinsel
#

Close launcher everytime you want to retry

golden tulip
#

Another classic failure was servers empty message followed by servers full

wheat moat
#

This is a brand new release with a multitude of players trying to join at the same time. Its impossible for these kinds of issues to not come about during this.

normal grove
plush thunder
#

good news I am at the loading screen compiling Shaders, hope this is good sign

limpid harbor
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Still can't even get to a point of ocnnecting my steam account via the website. Do we have an ETA on the website issues?

wintry glen
faint urchin
devout vortex
fickle flare
fluid flume
#

What's this mean?

paper tinsel
golden tulip
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queue going down insanely slowly may give up again yet before I actually move character anywhere in game yes shaders is step before queue boss with masses of HP

normal grove
#

God forbid let the users link the account before the launch of the game

gusty wyvern
#

Worth trying to load in or not yet? Just downloaded it

muted field
near moss
#

still not able to get to the website smh

faint urchin
#

Bros been banned already

golden tulip
#

at current rate looks like 30 minute queue people must be getting passed the linking I guess

wheat moat
# fluid flume What's this mean?

Probably the server overloading from the amount of people trying to join all at once. many people have gotten it and its no surprise it'll continue until everyone is eventually loaded in.

arctic loom
#

After 6 long long hours of constant trying we have arrived boys

grave river
#

no Im still unable to get onto the website as well. he stated to keep trying or wait but trying over and over offers the same response......none.

fluid flume
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Might not be the best way but I clicked the link button 10x times at a time and then clicked sign in on each tab and waited to see if the top of the tab gave 504 or a ashes. That's how I got my link done.

fickle nest
plush thunder
#

any suggestion on server to pick if in central US

faint urchin
open totem
golden tulip
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@drakon yes worth trying now I would say @Alexc you have the mass HP boss to go

orchid thicket
wintry glen
#

so we all get in and get stuck at error 51. sigh.

plush thunder
#

Resna it is and at create character

gilded hollow
#

lets gooooo, not even in yet 3x refund time passed, we ballin

open totem
#

resna will be the mega server

wary lily
#

wtf is code 51'

golden tulip
#

if I get code 51 I am definitely going to bed

devout vortex
wheat moat
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Thank the good lord I picked Lyneth, I ain't played an MMO in ages and Im lookin' for an easy going start to get back into the swing of things

fast flower
#

code 51: Our servers dont work

sand tusk
#

Do all Servers have a queue?

modern charm
wintry glen
#

yep

robust reef
#

So I just bought a new computer and was in the Alpha. The launcher is now via Steam. How do I download the game and play without paying for it on Steam if the launcher is on Steam?

clear garden
#

I finally got in, then I had to log out becasue of the time of day

plush thunder
#

will pick a character and see how it goes

golden tulip
#

I am trying EU number one began with L and that has 380 queue now down to 290

supple whale
#

Everyone should be hitting steam for refunds - played pretty much everything for last 20 years at launch day and have never seen a launch where you couldnโ€™t even get to a login screenโ€ฆ.

wet crown
#

if ur getting error 51 try another server

wary plume
#

Does anyone know of a way to link your steam account with the site down? Or are we just SOL until the site is UP???

rapid plover
#

holy moly the download is 150 gigs

clear garden
fickle flare
#

Got in right away in the last us server

wintry glen
wind thistle
#

This was a fail imo

broken bramble
#

Regardless of the near 8 hours I've been wanting to play, I really feel bad for the entire dev team who probably have to deal with this AND people in game encountering issues.

weary ivy
#

No realm for me

gilded hollow
frozen remnant
#

holy after 6 and a half hours i can type

robust reef
golden tulip
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@vale vessel log in to ashes website link account to steam uninstall intrepid launcher download game from steam

sand tusk
#

What's the lowest population server

oak warren
#

brother i just waited 5 hours before checking again and its STILL DOWN? wow

ionic stratus
clever lagoon
tawny ravine
#

At what point do i just refund

static crown
#

oh yay i can type now, hello everyone ๐Ÿ™‚

wheat moat
#

Hm, okay it could be completely unrelated but for the impatient people getting an Error 51, apparently it can be related to a third party program like an antivirus. Could always pass the time and check apps like firewall that might be blocking your access. Just a hunch >->

celest kraken
#

504 gateway boss to link account, wiped over 100 times already

copper cave
#

OMG I can speak words?!

muted gyro
#

Man you people sure aren't giving me good feelings about the community, that's for sure.

keen elk
#

Get a refund from steam!! And get the game for free!!

river saddle
#

are we going to play or the oldies need to get 25+ first?

marsh sail
#

dang guys they really be working hard, finally made char and in queue to get in AND can type in disc now? give those people a raise

naive plank
#

Que to login, Que to get into a server, Que for my order at sonic. i mean what gives?

earnest cobalt
#

rip ๐Ÿ™ i got the error occured

clear garden
#

welp, game awards time. time to do that while we wait.

umbral blaze
#

@olive ridge Serv resna closed?

wintry glen
#

Shol server worked! TY!

signal helm
#

I felt like I had tape on my mouth all day not being able to send messages.

wet crown
#

FOR ERROR 51 SWITCH SERVERS

silver mica
#

finally got in game

broken acorn
#

RIP i cant fking login

last dome
#

504 Gateway Time-out

gilded hollow
frozen remnant
zenith terrace
#

Congrats on EA today. I got to play for at least 3 hours and had some chaotic fun.

heady isle
green ridge
#

How is it not fixed after 6 hours wtf

rain thistle
rough hamlet
#

Cant link my account?

devout vortex
#

looks like you cannot connect to resna

weary ivy
#

how i fix that?

hazy patio
#

Every time I try to login is me losing another braincell

sinful breach
#

has anyone been able to link their steam at all?

feral cloak
#

if i can't play tomorrow i will refund

summer reef
#

2h Gameplay But no Charakter

trim steppe
agile silo
#

I spend all this time trying to get into the game, and when I finally manage to get in, I get the error "FAILED TO CONNECT TO SERVER".

keen elk
#

What a fucking clown show!!

golden tulip
#

yes it is working now comparitively speaking compared to earlier

steep ermine
#

@tepid moon Can you give me roles so i have acess to the chanels and can write? I finally made it into the game, created character and hoping i donโ€˜t get โ€šError 51โ€˜ after the queue

grave river
#

504 Gateway Time-out

plain basin
#

you guys weren't kidding... the hardest boss in this game is the website and loading screen...

wintry glen
#

seriously?

mossy dust
#

Can you guys get in already, boring as fuck with only few hundred of us in

last bobcat
tall ferry
last dome
#

this is absolute dogshit

high swift
#

Just restart the launcher got in 1st try

silver mica
#

607 for me

wheat moat
#

Uh..question, is Lyneth the server thats still run by massive guild?

wanton jewel
#

Ya know why they call the XBox 360 the 360? Because when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away!!!

broken acorn
#

Now i can write here but i cant fucking play the game

modern charm
#

can i get an error code 51 in the chat

bleak heron
#

I cant even make it in to link my steam account

alpine berry
#

We're in boys.

wet crown
#

ERROR 51 SWIITCH SERVERS

teal valley
twin lagoon
#

man been trying since 2:30 and still cant link my account

frozen remnant
charred hull
#

oh this bs chat is up for us all to bitch now since we still arent in, couldnt even bitch before

vast lake
#

FYI if you actually manage to create a character the server que is still going to be like 2+ hours

frozen ice
#

Hurray now i can also write here and join in on the complaining !

weary ivy
#

CODE 23 no realm

dusty mantle
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its only gives me the option to link my discord XD

acoustic gate
crude linden
#

i have code 51 how do i fix?

mossy dust
#

We in. Just reload, like 10 of us just got in

plain basin
harsh solstice
#

Feels like a piss take watching people in game, guess their money is more valuable then mine

woven temple
paper tinsel
#

See you nerds in game

lilac lily
#

whoever said to go back one page and refresh after being on the Steam sign in page you are a GOAT

lunar barn
#

HOUR 7 OF 504 YAYYYY

thorn radish
narrow kayak
#

steam linking issues with gateway errors still on the menu

cerulean harness
#

Error 10, 23, 51, 403, 504.... Errors of Creation.

wheat moat
dusty kestrel
#

wait so there is a que for the loading screen and then another queue for the server entry XD great release

alpine berry
#

Auto Refresh extension on google chrome came in clutch to keep reloading the website every few seconds while i played another game lmao

sinful lynx
#

my game crushed and then i couldnt keybind anymore, it happend to anyone? is there a fix for that ??

wary magnet
#

man these queues take forever

winged jay
#

for EU player take Tanok

warm arrow
#

7 Hour, Nice gameeeeee

silver mica
#

took me 4 hours 586

kindred ermine
#

why can everyone play but me ............f

summer solar
#

I am getting the error I have an account already but when I try to ask for an email password reset it never comes

crude linden
#

@tepid moon i have a code 51 error? how does one fix?

plain basin
sand rover
#

brother sitting here and reading mimimimi i cant link my profile from thousand of impatient kids is sad xD

tropic elm
#

Do yall think theyll put the Grave marker for this game by Wildstar

tiny helm
#

This Is joke ngl

charred hull
#

Almost 8 hours, reverse steam refund AoC now has to pay us all a days wage

harsh solstice
#

Errors of creation!! Ain't that a true, all hype's gone out of the window can't even link a fuckin account let alone boot the damn game lol, starting to see why there are all the memes about it launching in 2035

keen elk
#

A five year old could of had all these bullshit fixed by now

worldly marten
#

I can finally talk here, awesome, this website BLOWS

tepid moon
#

Today is not the day for this

flint bridge
#

504 gateway timeout still happening for folks when trying to link account?

wheat moat
versed gyro
#

just relog steam and try again that was my method

sinful lynx
crude linden
cedar vessel
#

why is q number going up not down?

sinful breach
#

has anyone at all been able to link steam acct?

narrow berry
eager river
#

I havenโ€™t been able to link my account yet

rancid plume
#

Yeah I'm on the WAYYYYYYYY !!! Hold on guys, winter is comming xD

fringe swan
#

Solo raided the account linking and beat it, compiling shaders now ๐Ÿ‘ What is the next raid boss?

past bridge
brittle gust
#

excited to play, i just dont understand why we could not link account before?

low jetty
#

im 6 hours in, havent played yet

raw storm
#

steam account just linked successfully

livid tide
#

I keep getting close and it kicks me back

acoustic gate
#

theres no button to link steam anywhere wtf the on?

misty lion
#

Starting a match of Leagues, who wants in

harsh solstice
#

They got our money, devs must be on lunch break kicking their feet up, can't even link account let alone boot the game

toxic heron
old blaze
#

do we know where in the US each server is located?

winter sage
#

Nope, 6.5h in endless errors

worldly marten
#

MORE MAINTENANCE YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY

forest yew
#

Finally got registered and now only 849 in queue ๐Ÿ™‚

grave river
#

@@sinful breachnot i

broken acorn
golden tulip
#

@sinful breach it is sort of working now we have been trying for 6 hours and most of us got in now

twin lagoon
#

how did timthetatman get on

cerulean harness
#

Accounts of creation, niiice.

livid frost
#

refund angle

sinful breach
#

and what method did you use to link it?

rapid plover
cedar vessel
#

i started 250 in q and after only an hour im 897 in q ๐Ÿ™‚

merry falcon
#

if i buy this game, can I play it?

plush thunder
#

any suggestions on starting region Aela or Dunzenkell

tawny ravine
low jetty
#

im 6 hours in, still havent played ๐Ÿ™

lean sand
#

What is
Failed to connect to server. Code:51

oblique geode
#

imagine que time when steam player will get link their acount tomorow

wintry glen
harsh solstice
#

Probably the most embarassing launch I've seen in an MMO, can't even sit in a queue, can't even boot the game, what a rort this has become, they got the $ tho

wheat moat
#

I think..I might take the time to remake my character (again) and switch to an EU server for shortened queue times XD

toxic heron
#

Guys, check the file integrity, it worked for me right away! )

past bridge
#

site down for maintance again

celest torrent
#

So is this an across the board issue with linking or do some people randomly get through?

faint urchin
#

Are we cooking

grave river
#

@sinful breachIm getting the same 504 code for hours now

rain thistle
ebon ingot
mossy dust
#

Just reload steam, like 20 of us just got in

tropic pelican
#

Can anyone tell me what Code: 51 is?

sullen orbit
golden tulip
#

Load the launcher when queue ends a blue button on left saying link appears @sinful breach this assumes you did not have a bought intrepid account before steam launched

supple whale
#

Gimme refund

wanton jewel
#

Code 51 means you failed to connect

tawny oasis
#

504 gateaway time out lands an critical hit on you you faint !

frozen ice
clever lagoon
wide mural
silk zinc
#

dude im so confused. I just watched multiple streamers all day just get steam linked and boot up the game. I've been trying for the last 6 hours with only 504 and 502 and 403 errors lmao. damn man

weary halo
#

I thought i beat the 504 raidboss who's Code51

static crown
#

GUYS IM IN!!!

merry falcon
#

why do they sell it if we can't play it?

timber flame
#

failed ๐Ÿ™

acoustic gate
#

why account connections only find discord?

celest kraken
#

Stuck on error 51, any ideas?

twilit linden
honest summit
#

just got in myself - used this tactic posted by someone else earlier

click the Link Account button over and over, opening multiple tabs and trying to sign into all of them

after about 20 504s, i got one to work

broken bramble
small zinc
#

Donโ€™t worry guys youโ€™re not missing much, people camping quest spawns rofl

chilly marten
#

Yes Hello The game is not working. however the money traded does function

leaden hedge
#

i think it could be some faster....

hexed bone
faint urchin
frozen yew
#

SAME!! I just loaded in for the first time... restart your game if you get code:51

visual kraken
#

for error 504, if you get any form of error, refresh that particular page, dont spam, dont try and open a new one. if u get say 2/3 steps in refresh that page if it times out, dont keep starting over

jaunty fulcrum
#

idk about you guys. Been playing for hours. No queues. I'm having a blast

tropic ledge
#

No matter what I do I get this

sinful breach
#

this 504 boss would make most dark souls bosses look like childs play

tawny ravine
summer reef
vast yacht
#

I'm in, what worked for me was to shut the game down and reque for the steam link login part.

sullen orbit
#

Code 51 after character creation Switch server worked

low gull
proper smelt
#

Yo restarting Steam legit fking worked for me yall, linked account and tryna log in now

weary mountain
#

i can talk now I've been hitting this fucking error since launch

last flame
#

is summoner good

river arrow
#

10 years in the making lol and this is where we are

low jetty
#

i give up

vapid pivot
#

what lol i having got to play the game

harsh solstice
#

AoC Devs = Monkeys

acoustic gate
wet tide
#

been like 7 hours almost ๐Ÿ˜ญ

frozen ice
small halo
#

Anyone able to link account while servers down?

sacred knot
#

dont have link to steam option... only discord

clever lagoon
little dagger
#

back to maintenance for steam link so it doesnt matter

rotund warren
#

They managed a worse launch then lost ark and new world

celest tinsel
#

How hard is it to just reboot the website server - always works

ancient flint
#

Can anyone even get past link account? This is trash

tawny oasis
meager ledge
#

damn reading all the chats dejavu like aion2 badserver ?????????????????

tropic ledge
#

"Invalid name or username" no matter what i do

small zinc
wintry glen
#

gdDAMN

warm arrow
#

UNDER MAINTENANCE AGAIN, I LOVE THIS GAME

flint bridge
#

site officially in maintenance

rare moat
#

PROGRESS WHAT DO I DO NOW CHAT

vital violet
#

I'm not even seeing the steam account link option!!!! Just Discord

frozen yew
oblique geode
#

is there fresh server?

broken acorn
#

Maintenance again? Just kill me alrdy

naive plank
#

if an MMO had a ZERO problem launch id consider that i must have passed away.

odd crest
tropic pelican
#

I don't think Error 51 is a connection issue because it only happens when I try to make a new character. I was able to relogin to my already existing character just fine.

old gyro
#

u guys need to chill ive seen so much worse with wow lol

low gull
cloud flume
#

at least you guys are in the queue i cant even link my fking account and its not 7 HOURS

worthy plume
celest torrent
#

I love this maintenance screen.... my fault for getting talked into this damn game I suppose

proper smelt
#

If you cant link account from launcher, restart Steam. Worked for me just now.

rapid plover
#

i just got back home from work so im just now downloading the game. . . i dont think im missing a ton

wet tide
chilly marten
#

why did they schedule maintenance for the launch?

spare vine
#

Funny that ive only been trying for like an hour and im in the server Queue.. not sure what is holding you guys up for like 6 hours...

merry falcon
#

it's like selling brand new cars that doesn't work, who wants to buy?

last dome
#

this is jokes. some people will be playing while the other can't. refunding for this dogsh1t

thorn yew
kind scroll
#

Well shoot, I got so close to registering my account... now it's giving me "Link wasn't from launcher"

upbeat glacier
frozen remnant
#

theres an unreasonable amount of salt for this being day 1 of an alpha release xD

sullen yew
#

Anyone getting Code 51 when trying to create their character?

celest kraken
#

Code 51, change realms

meager ledge
#

2nd AION2

silver mica
#

hi

tropic ledge
#

Does anyone know how to get passed the *** INVALID NAME OR USERNAME*** when registering on the site

golden tulip
#

@shrewd grotto I just have username and password on that screen and an ok or something

flat sinew
#

I'd like to try to stay positive and give the team a week to handle the influx of players but dang, bois, these reviews already oof

mossy dust
#

the maintenance has been scheudled guys, you knew this

wet tide
celest torrent
languid monolith
#

Hell ya, still the same hours later!

hard raft
#

WHAT IS ERROR 51

ember crown
#

ๆ€Žไนˆ็Žฉ

scarlet temple
vapid pivot
#

@everyone u have to be a streamer or pay more money to get to play the game. after that then u can link your account ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ

small halo
red kernel
#

Somebody Deserves an ankle lock for this shit!!!!

tame root
#

I THINK THIS SHIT IS ON PURPOSE AT THIS PINT

nova tide
#

has there been an eta on when the website is fixed

rapid plover
small zinc
high swift
#

servers fixed

tawdry temple
#

Is the website back up yet?

cerulean harness
#

Wasting such a powerful bullet as Steam's on this crap... it's sad.

sharp trench
#

Got past the gaming on Linux boss, got past the 504 bad gateway boss, got past the servers are down boss, game didn't launch to a frozen black screen mini-boss, made my toon, now I'm at the Servers are full boss.

frigid wren
thorn yew
grand dock
#

definately denying service lol

buoyant carbon
#

Hot take

This maintenance is on purpose for the paid streamers to get an audience

weary halo
#

how to beat this raidboss

copper cave
harsh solstice
#

Of course no streamers had issues tho! Guess our money isn't valued the same

acoustic gate
#

embarrassing

golden tulip
#

error 51 = try another server I think it is Resna server that is dead in some way

low gull
#

to be fair after my 2 hour journey to connect i played for a few hours and it was decent.... i exited and watching game awards now

buoyant frigate
wanton jewel
#

Fucking hell!! Trying since launch, finally got game up, get error saying my graphics card doesn't support dx12 FML

echo arch
#

@viscid prism fix this shit

uneven quest
#

my buddy got in but i still cant

rain thistle
#

I seen some one else say press back button when steam sign in pops up so I did and it gave me 504 error but when I pressed forward to go back to steam sign in it worked. Maybe dumb luck idk

narrow frigate
#

I can finally chat!!!!

silk zinc
frozen remnant
wanton wedge
tame root
#

yes this is 100% on purpose makes no sense

sand tusk
#

Wow queues are long

plush thunder
#

after creating character failed to connect to server, any suggestions

celest kraken
#

Pro tip, already be signed into steam on one tab, saves time

little bluff
#

no news about th LINK issue?

small zinc
#

Code 51 is poopy internet maybe get a job to get a better internet baby soft heads

small halo
ember crown
#

Does this game accommodate beginners?

vital violet
#

LOUD NOISES

cloud flume
#

no

grand dock
#

refund

celest torrent
trail wraith
queen root
#

Is there a maintenace of sorts? Trying to link my steam account but says maintenance.

wanton jewel
wide mural
sullen orbit
buoyant frigate
#

so there's a launcher queue and a server queue, at least I'm almost there lol

low gull
sharp trench
swift prawn
#

ive seen entire websites developed with working api faster then this maintenance

sand rover
narrow frigate
#

Still cant defeat the SteamLink Boss myself

twin lagoon
tame root
#

Seems like quick cash grab by the company honest

pallid glacier
#

steam link bos op

silk zinc
frail root
#

Crazy

sand tusk
#

Only 100 down in 20 mins

high plume
keen elk
#

Give the devs time, itโ€™s not their fault their highest education level is a GED

echo arch
#

@short nova Fix pls

autumn shell
#

Junior full stack devs or company on a budget.... cant fix for 6+ hours....

frozen remnant
low crane
#

Bela meeee

analog bloom
#

whoever decided to do website maintenance on a massive launch day is a special kind of business man

novel galleon
#

6 hours try 2 link account 45 euros for this shit

past bridge
#

thankful i didnt play into the que until i was verified reading that u needed to link account first i only got 10 min on steam :p wont refund unless this persists for a day or 2

patent anchor
#

any ETA, or no eta and working on it?

warm flame
#

hello, how do you fix crashes? I got an Unreal process has crashed whenever I tried to launch the game, My mircosoft visual C++ is up to date

wide mural
sullen orbit
#

Resna didnt work for me switched to Shol

wanton jewel
small zinc
wintry glen
#

Shol has me 952 in queue... ๐Ÿ™

rain thistle
#

Is shol working

celest kraken
#

Yeah I did shol, 1k queue lol

craggy scarab
azure mason
#

damn still cant connect steam n site nice.

arctic solar
#

is this really the official dc server?

fringe swan
#

Next Boss: Servers are full, waiting to join. Position in queue: [1,100]

finite pagoda
#

Shol works

plush thunder
#

what does code 51 indicate

silk zinc
low crane
#

Dumbo

tropic ledge
#

*** INVALID NAME OR USERNAME ***

  • Ive tried different user names, keep getting the same error
languid monolith
#

Im sorry but this doesnt leave a good taste in peoples mouths when the link account function is still down and not working after being down all day. If this is an example of what to expect down the road, this aint good

uneven sequoia
#

Im assuming most of you guys have played an mmo before... this is to be expected. Also, before you bought the game whether it was today or past alpha access there a giant disclaimer for things just like this. Go take a nap

frozen remnant
#

when did i ask anyone to change speach im just stating that raging out and complaining are doing nothing to further the problem getting fixed lmfao

wooden fox
#

Which server is US West?

wraith olive
#

i can even pass the linking acc...

twilit light
spare vine
#

For the Resna homies

keen elk
#

Fuck you Intrepid!!

unkempt zealot
grand dock
#

refund the game call it a day

autumn shell
#

Junior full stack devs or company on a budget.... cant fix for 6+ hours....

solid sequoia
#

Failed to connect to server: Error51 ๐Ÿ™

celest torrent
golden tulip
#

code 51 we think is Resna server is dead try another

tall wren
#

at least you are in que....i can't even link my account

wanton jewel
tranquil radish
#

Game looks fun I'd like to try it.

fringe swan
wintry glen
rocky niche
#

We're undergoing scheduled maintenance

raven elm
#

ive been cranking hog for 7 hours idk how much longer i can go on

livid loom
#

im getting a maintenance page?

gloomy cliff
broken acorn
#

Hello, am i allowed to play? how are the streamers playing while we cant? THIS IS BULLSHIEEEEEETTTTT

frozen remnant
lusty heron
#

Still no linking possible?

leaden raven
low crane
#

Steven, where are you?

cunning sinew
#

Is the game that bad ?

analog bloom
#

the website went down five hours ago? Did they not have servers set up for this? Did we learn nothing from New World?

toxic heron
late jay
#

linking isnt possible still?

small zinc
wraith olive
#

am still having the maintenance schedule..

candid heath
#

Oh i can finally write, while you were all hoping to join the game, i was hoping to join the chat

inner rain
#

i think we all need to take a step back and relax a bit, this is still an alpha and we should all expect this shenanigans

keen elk
#

If you are having any issues, get a refund from steam asap and you get the game for free

boreal vigil
forest yew
wooden fox
#

Which server is US West?

silk zinc
radiant tide
#

well at least you can get in

upper plinth
#

guys how do i join game i pay but no play?

green ridge
#

How is there no ETA on the website issues

proud stag
#

I can finally write

worn forum
#

@broken acorn Streams are streaming because they do not need to create an account, they have been testing for years.

steep kiln
golden tulip
#

Linking is much better than it was at least some people in now so there are server queues

craggy grove
#

if you are going to delay a game for 5 years, make sure the steam launch at least works lol

rose ore
#

Oh hey, any recommendations on what class to play second?

noble bobcat
#

Paitence is the charm, lmfao people getting upset

plucky herald
#

At least this game is real, unlike the day before. I fell for that so bad, lol.

little bluff
#

Hate is real, but HOPE is better

grave river
#

litterally was validating me and they shut the web server down as i was finishing the process Im just defeated

hardy warren
#

Serious people, is it true that this game will be the next WoW and better than TL?

celest torrent
grand dock
#

hmm cant post a pic ??

past bridge
autumn shell
#

Junior full stack devs or company on a budget.... cant fix for 6+ hours....

nova light
#

Anyone get past error 51?

gloomy cliff
harsh solstice
#

6 hour lunch break for these clowns I spose

atomic galleon
#

i think some people never had been at a mmo launch lol

lilac snow
#

i see we are all happy with the launch of this highly anticipated game

broken acorn
small zinc
daring current
#

Hi, i forgot my original password and when i click "i forgot my password" and enter my email, it tell that i will receive an email to change the password. I never receive this email, is it actually normal ?

tranquil radish
keen elk
#

Hell no, this game will never be WoW or ff14!!

wraith olive
#

how are people passing the maintenance schedule?

idle lichen
#

Was in for a second and now when I try and select my character it crashes

silk zinc
rough hamlet
#

back to Chivalry 2 I go while these issues get fixed

plain basin
#

I JUST WANNA LINK MY ACCOUNT BROOOO COME ONNNNN

unreal vessel
#

is servers going down gonna fix this ish

noble bobcat
golden tulip
#

error 51 = try another server Resna is dead

civic seal
#

dat game mtfkr

worldly furnace
#

Is the website still in maintenance?

upper plinth
#

is this the lizard squads fault

rose ore
#

Oh, it seems I've walked in at a bad time. Should I come back later?

safe hull
#

leeeeets gooo

celest torrent
crimson ginkgo
#

think server will be back up in like 10ish mins for resna

trim mural
#

lythe is the only us server that works for me now

wary helm
#

Looks like Shol just booted people? Lame back in the queue

grand dock
#

ashes of creation kind of a funny name for this situation no?

daring vault
#

Call your host and swipe the card steven. This is what you signed up for.

wanton jewel
#

I keep getting a PC Load Letter error. Anyone else?

autumn shell
#

Junior full stack devs or company on a budget.... cant fix for 6+ hours....

meager ledge
#

bruh these people makes me want to refund, but my download almost done :/

inner rain
#

this is a good thing, this gives the Devs more time to work out the kinks

tranquil radish
keen elk
#

GET A REFUND FROM STEAM!! AND PLAY THIS PIECE OF SHIT FOR FREE!!

peak summit
#

Lol been trying for 8 hours now. A buddy left for work, came home, was able to link up and go right in and i'm still sitting here with my thumb up my arse

radiant tide
#

scheduled maintenance? LOL you mean UNscheduled maintenance.

lilac snow
#

gotta say im a big fan of the long wait time to link your account

lofty oxide
#

Account linking website still doesnt work after 8 hours bro WTF ?!

modest plinth
#

LMFAO... Locked out of my account because of too many login attempts... F U Ashes...

steep kiln
broken cairn
#

gang whats the fun server for us cant figure it out ppl are saying resna

broken acorn
tame crypt
#

every attempt to link my steam account leads to maintenance.....

rough hamlet
#

paid $62 AU to have a website not work lmao

small zinc
#

Ur mum is a queue

safe hull
#

pos in queue 470 eu lotharia

plush thunder
#

thanks for info on error code and chose different server and in queue

worldly marten
#

this website boss is really frustrating

languid monolith
upper plinth
#

guys just use way back machine to go back when the website was working 10 hours ago 4head

barren tide
#

omg bullshit 7h

graceful shard
#

anyone gotten through charachter creator and gotten Failed to Connect to server code 51?

meager ledge
#

ashes of refund

grand dock
#

ashes of character creation

candid slate
#

this is worse than Aion 2 TW release

golden tulip
#

Steam will allow refunds at this point I am sure

supple trellis
#

Yall cry like a 2 year old. Relax, they'll fix it

remote dragon
#

When this game goes the way of New World, im sure AOC will have its cash shop active till the end too

tardy mortar
#

ashes of maintenance

daring current
#

ashes of password recovery

crisp hemlock
#

whats great also is the 20/30k peoples in that can play somehow and will have like a 24h headstart in a community driven mmo

lusty heron
broken cairn
lyric harness
#

I like how they tell you to link your steam profile under account settings on their website and when you finally get the website to work the only option is to connect to discord

olive valve
#

just frustrated that I and I am sure thousands more took the day off work for the launch.

keen elk
#

GET A REFUND BEFORE THE TWO HOUR MARK!! STEAM WILL AUTOMATICALLY REFUND YOU!!

tame root
#

lol ashes of nothing

valid cipher
#

sever Shol: 750 in line

wanton jewel
#

I think everybody needs to be more understanding. How could the devs have predicted that a game with 300k wishlists where everybody must be funneled through a single point of failure in order to link their accounts would have any issues? What, you expect them to be psychic?

idle lichen
#

Is Tenok server dead too?

elder wigeon
sudden granite
#

Idk why they make us link our accounts if they donโ€™t know how to run a website

small zinc
craggy scarab
#

@crude siren fix website ...

plush thunder
#

if error code 51 try different server

harsh solstice
#

Is it too early to say ded game?

grand dock
#

don keep your game on while you wait or you wont get a reee fund

upper plinth
#

lol ashes of nothing

pale roost
worn forum
#

People...this is not a release, this is not a launch, this is a TEST!!! for crying out loud, did any of you even read the what this event is all about?

gloomy cliff
# candid slate this is worse than Aion 2 TW release

well technically it's not a "release" It's just an alpha 2... testing phase lol... i mean they went full disclosure about the status of the game, so it isn't suprising tbh... idk why people complaining like we didn't knew beforehand that this gonna happen LOL

proper ruin
#

Thatโ€™s it. Iโ€™m reviving Club Penguin with Quantum Servers and no queue.

zealous kernel
#

idk i got in bros

golden tulip
#

41 in queue maybe I will still die to the error 51 though

barren tide
#

ashes of creation account

meager ledge
#

i guess i'll play back playing spiritvale then ๐Ÿ˜ข

acoustic python
#

I just did all the registration process, im now in line to log in, finally

worn flare
#

STOP BEING SO DRAMATIC

neat surge
lusty heron
#

Ashes of Keep Calm and have a cup o tea

cunning dust
#

Resna got obliterated. rip

spiral citrus
#

I know that the server is dead, but what the h*** does error code 51 means?

autumn pagoda
#

LMFAO WHAT AN AMAZING LAUNCH

wanton wedge
#

looks like I'm going to 1st attempt loading into game see what errors i get gonna be on US east

peak summit
keen elk
silk zinc
#

dang im getting shafted now. its not even trying. just going straight to server maint xD

olive valve
misty lion
small zinc
#

Ashes of quest camping

bleak heron
#

cant even get to launch because i cant link my fucking account

cold echo
#

they did this on purpose, think about it. They sent an email days before to say link your account because on launch day you wont get any issues... here are all the people that didnt listen or didnt get the memo!

grizzled jewel
#

i didnt linked my account ๐Ÿ˜ข

junior meteor
#

tabarnak

edgy mango
#

This is why you don't take time off work for alphas. They're buggy.

grand dock
#

ashes of character creation

late summit
#

Yall need to fix this shit today

gloomy cliff
pale roost
grim wren
meager ledge
tranquil radish
last flame
#

is anybody else getting a scheuduled maintence thing?

broken acorn
worn flare
#

STOP BEING SO DRAMATIC. CRY BABIES.

supple trellis
broken cairn
#

.

trail wraith
grand walrus
#

yes

sudden granite
#

So they just needed some funds

wanton jewel
placid cedar
tame root
worthy plume
#

Whatโ€™s code51

wraith kernel
#

When i first qued this morning and was 20k in que it went fast.

tropic ledge
#

@cold echo I havent been able to register for months due to *** INVALID NAME OR USERNAME *** error :/

keen forum
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ok we pass to link acount issue, now we have another code 51... LMAO

nova light
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resna is gone?

eternal vale
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its honestly hella sick a million dollar company still cant fix a fucking website

olive valve
# misty lion

looks like you can play roblox and watch anime while you wait at least

naive plank
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BLIZZARD.... <.<

keen elk
chilly marten
fervent cairn
worldly hill
void citrus
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jesus christ even blizzard has better launches than this, get it the fuck together.

edgy mango
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Did Resna server just take a big fat dump?

candid slate
sharp trench
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so a non-tech issue question, my wife is intrigued by the derpy-face cat. is it in-game or cash shop?

vale siren
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I still canโ€™t play 7 hours after installing the game ๐Ÿ™

cold echo
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but again, they knew this was going to be an issue

tranquil radish
ancient birch
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Hello

cunning dust
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Resna got rugged

autumn shell
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Junior full stack devs or company on a budget.... cant fix for 6+ hours....

broken acorn
idle lichen
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The linking of the game to steam through a website isnt a "to be expected EA issue". Nothing to do with the game and all to do with bad systems and planning

west spade
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Will I be able to play this year?

acoustic python
wintry glade
grand dock
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ashes of next year

plush thunder
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can't wait to see what happens getting into server after character creation, position in queue happening, will I be frustrated or happy, wish me luck

wanton jewel
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Please speak the King's English.

nova light
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RESNA IS Gone!!!!!!!!!!

olive valve
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so who all is waiting for that riot MMO.....hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

steep kiln
naive plank
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wish you could link through steam instead of the stupid website

rigid tusk
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been trying for 7 hours and still havent been able to play

sinful breach
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ashes of maintenaince

warm arrow
candid slate
orchid halo
edgy mango
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They said Resna seems to be the server that all the people with the fattest dongs rolled on! DELETE IT!

next heart
fluid nest
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I mean, yeah, its frustrating, but I have faith I'll log in, eventually...

low crane
cold echo
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Hello Glorious Adventurer,

Ashes of Creation Alpha Two is fully transitioning to Steam on December 11, 2025 at 10AM Pacific. Going forward, all testers will access the game through Steam - including YOU!

Our records show that you have not yet linked your Intrepid Account to your Steam Account. To ensure you have uninterrupted access during Early Access, please connect your accounts as soon as possible...... THIS!!!

vernal rivet
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how long until esna server is back up?

wintry glade
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you guys never played archeage... Fucking weebs

half acorn
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I'm so excited to play, I know everyone else is too! We believe in you Devs โค๏ธ

wintry glen
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shol is up... 855 in queue for it... ;/

plush thunder
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try different server than Resna

near surge
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lmao

tame root
olive valve
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Fun Fact: Ashes of Creation was Awarded number 1 most anticipated MMORPG of 2017.

gusty jewel
pliant bough
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whose all here from daoc eden heh ๐Ÿ˜›

spare vine
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Im at 447 in Lyneth

naive plank
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GTA 6 needs to launch before we can play

harsh solstice
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I take back everything i said, devs are pumping, game is alive, queue boss is going down HARD

rain thistle
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shol works, Resna will give you error 51

tepid moon
jolly storm
thin vale
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whats the main server everyone playing on?

barren tide
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ashes of 504

cedar vessel
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this is axcely fairely normal for the alph launch of an mmo

plain basin
sage stone
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welp im at the maintenance screen now.....progress is progress ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

near moss
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what does this mean?

still apex
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how long web is still sleep?

vernal rivet
wanton jewel
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I'm wondering if we could get together a GoFundMe for the devs during these troubled times. They could not have possibly predicted that funneling everybody through a single point of failure in order to link their accounts could result in issues. Please, this is only their primary occupation in which they have significant experience. It's unreasonable to expect them to plan ahead. Could we possibly get them some lollipops or propeller hats?

wide mural
cloud basin