alpha-two-shol-us

[paper light]

Will people actually fight us now or still dodge

[prime panther]

hopefully they will fight

[sharp pine]

So polar never dodged in p2?

[prime panther]

PvP the most fun thing in the game rn

[buoyant steppe]

Rogue it is then i guess

[paper light]

Armitige I didn’t see you at the siege, u get lost on the way?

[sudden flame]

Imma drive a caravan into steelbloom, lets fight

[sharp pine]

Polar never mass logged out when dopamine deccd on them? Only to log on later with a full raid of enveus to help them?

[sudden flame]

Godchii can no longer use "most geared mage" to view farm

[sharp pine]

Would you like the medal clips bro?

[paper light]

I would love to see medal clips of you dead

[sharp pine]

Were you at any of the bridge wars?

[past jasper]

I'm not surprised to hear Polar players complain that cleric is too hard for them

[prime panther]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[sudden flame]

Hard? No. Boring ? yeah

[paper light]

Cleric is half a class, bard is the only real class in the game currently

[sudden flame]

If bard had a Rez clerics would hardly be brought outside divine flare

[past jasper]

Bard is a class that deleted people just by auto attacking people for all of phase 1 and 2

[sharp pine]

Polar literally dodged many times last wipe. Stop talking about dodging when you had a huge advantage

[past jasper]

Saying anything positive about bard is questionable

[paper light]

You dropped guild tag to dodge a war no typing

[sudden flame]

tbh bard is just a builder spender that dumps their resources via autoing (been saying for months to make it tied to spells like Glowies had an idea of ). Rangers could 1 shot with snipe back then

[sharp pine]

No I didn’t and I literally killed kinks and dinks lastnight solo

[sudden flame]

I'd kill to have bard not be an auto class

[sharp pine]

As a cleric

[past jasper]

resonance weapon is just a shit mechanic

[paper light]

Resonance being main damage is boring

[past jasper]

needs to be removed

[prime panther]

not hard just way less fun than bard

[sudden flame]

id rather weapon finishers generate resonance and we use abilities to spend resonance for stronger stuff

[paper light]

It’s a good filler but being the main course is boring

[sudden flame]

would feel more fun

[hallow creek]

why arent sandals bis

[past jasper]

sagas are in a better state than they were before but I think saying bard is fun to play compared to cleric in pvp is psychotic

[sudden flame]

Bard is high APM and more fun than cleric for sure to me

[paper light]

Bard has a lot more fun abilities to press

And a better sequence to press them in

Coots right tho, imagine if resonance made ur maddening get a buff

Instead of ur autos

[sudden flame]

also mana saga is still kek, should just be like raid wide innervate or mana tide totem from wow to give back like 30-40% of someones mana bar

[past jasper]

high apm? because you're literally wasting skills generating resonance instead of smartly using dances or properly lining up spells with CC combos?

current bard literally requires zero brain cells to be effective with

[paper light]

Hardly ever wasting imo

[sudden flame]

Bard has a low skill floor but arguably the 2nd highest skill ceiling

[past jasper]

you just mash all your skills and then target someone with your longbow from 35 meters away

[sudden flame]

Rogue has the highest skill floor when fighting equally skilled players

Lowest is like Ranger/mage

[analog delta]

yes yes we need to buff bard

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-spongebob-sbso-sbsp-wacky-gif-10150404673915756358

[sudden flame]

[prime panther]

🙂‍↕️

[past jasper]

trying to do anything more interesting with bard like using gravity to make huge mesmerizing stun plays is severely punished versus just sitting in the back wasting your skills/flourishes and spamming auto attacks

[prime panther]

damn why my emoji hella pussy

[analog delta]

who paid for fighter in A tier lol

[past jasper]

Fighter in A tier is wild

indeed

[sudden flame]

Yeah them nuking momentum made trying to go in for a big mez with uppies is honestly so ass

[analog delta]

make A tier empty and push it all down 💀

[sudden flame]

they get punished more than mage/ranger does when trying to actually play their class

[past jasper]

the moment they killed momentum I never wanted to touch bard again

made frontlining bard fucking useless

I'd rather just stay on cleric

[sudden flame]

Downfall of bard sadly

[analog delta]

then move bard down and cleric uP!

or rogue down

phys got it too easy

[sudden flame]

Cleric will never be in same tier as bard or rogue

[analog delta]

:(

[sudden flame]

Theres like 5 clerics ive met since p1 that im impressed by

[analog delta]

they added a stun to my defiant light in a secret patch it was actually the biggest thing theyve done for cleric when every other patch is literally nerfs

[sudden flame]

2 of which are EU

[willow barn]

back in my day @devout laurel was the most impressive cleric 😍

[sudden flame]

GiggaFreedom are the chinese hackers/gold sellers

[light pollen]

Looks like he's grappling to the tree.

[dusk phoenix]

alright I feel good about 6pm guys this time its for real

[nova void]

That’s grapple for sure

Which incidentally brings me a lot of joy I feel like laggy spiderman

[willow barn]

bro what you can literally hear the grapple ability go off

[graceful raft]

Grapple so much fun

[uncut token]

Grapple is a hack. Ban all rogues 🤣

[quiet forum]

Hey guys I just picked up Alpha. I've got the launcher, but how big is the game itself?

Should I expect to not play tonight?

[gritty rapids]

Like 110 gigs

so depends on ur internet

[quiet forum]

Hmmmmm I may get to play for like 10 or 20 minutes before bedtime lol

[drowsy grove]

patch is up

[quiet forum]

fucking work amirite

[gritty rapids]

I like working, it gives me spending money to get my waifus in gacha games

[quiet forum]

waifus too good

especially my rl one

[maiden cave]

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/68391/alpha-two-update-notes-0-15-10-wednesday-september-10-2025#latest

@lime basin dunhold leveled

[quiet forum]

Anyways, once I get in I'm interested to learn more about the game and its current systems. I imagine a guild would be helpful learning as well. If anyones got one I'm interested in the long-haul

[gritty rapids]

#na-oce-guild-recruitment or #eu-guild-recruitment depending on where you're from, several newbie friendly guilds of various sizes

[scenic geode]

Any guild's okay, just avoid endangered species

[gritty rapids]

Game is in an alpha state so expect things to be buggy, expect things to not work, expect random downtimes

[quiet forum]

Understandable

[gritty rapids]

If you aren't going in with a mindset that you're testing an alpha, you're not gonna have a good time and are better off waiting until beta 1

[quiet forum]

I've alpha tested before, not much, but I understand the game isn't finished by a long shot

[gritty rapids]

You still might not have a good time anyways because the experience varies person to person on good or bad but the right mindset starting off is better

[dusk phoenix]

ONE MINUTE

[lime basin]

LETS GO!!!!

[dusk phoenix]

aaaand we're in

[quiet forum]

I mainly want to get started now so I can get "ahead" in understanding systems. Vast games like this tend to take me a while to fully grasp everything

[gritty rapids]

That's the thing, a lot of the current systems are placeholder or unfinished still

If your goal is to prepare for the game launch, beta 1 really is your better bet unfortunately, but you'd have a similar mindset to me

AoC prolly not out until 2030

[quiet forum]

I gotcha

[analog delta]

i wonder if thoghli's reporting on settlement exp is similar to what intrepid puts it to

[quiet forum]

There's also something neat about experiencing a game and it's ecosystem before launch. I get to see the game in a relatively unique state

[dusk phoenix]

its still fun to play in its current form

[gritty rapids]

yeah that's fair, especially if ur new. I've been around since A0 and loved A0 and A1 way more personally, so A2 is just unpleasant for me overall

But for someone new, its a new world, new experience, new vibes.

[quiet forum]

whereas after launch, the game will likely never reflect that state again

[lucid plume]

as somebody whos never once stepped foot in anvils, thank you for leveling up a few anvil nodes manually. seriously. @lime basin et al absolutely fucking deserved that.

[quiet forum]

69% downloaded w00t

going wayyy faster than I though

ssd is slugging tho

[lime basin]

Thank you for the kind words

[golden prairie]

f ya

get in the game

[dusk phoenix]

lfg

[chrome merlin]

@lime basin I expect a good anvils flying mount or I need you to hammer some people

[lime basin]

I will be taking a look and seeing how things go when I get in

[quiet forum]

Since I'm new here as well, if possible I'd like to get some folks thoughts on some critics of the games saying that it will never release. I mean, I remember when my homie was talking about buying $400 keys like 10 or so years ago

hell yeah. Gonna report the shit out of some bugs for....managed democracy or something like that

[gritty rapids]

If the Anvils actually leveled up and Thoghli doesn't end up as a mayor of at least one of those nodes ya'll are fucked

jsing

[quiet forum]

why is that??

[gritty rapids]

Anvils been xp glitched for two weeks and the dwarf rpers have been still exclusively leveling the Anvils nonstop

They are committed to their mountain home

[quiet forum]

Is Thoghli a dwarf then?

[lime basin]

Aye, we have been fighting the good fight.

[gritty rapids]

He is indeed, dwarf rp guild leader

[quiet forum]

aw hell yeah

rock and stone!

[quiet forum]

now that's a group I can get behind

[gritty rapids]

They seem pretty neat

depends

do you guys have ur random weird quota on guildies talking with the guild still or is that drama long dead @lime basin

[lime basin]

You must remain active

[quiet forum]

feels pretty standard

[gritty rapids]

okay they still have that weird thing but other then that they're pretty consistent

[quiet forum]

how do y'all define "active" in an alpha environment?

[lime basin]

Should come on by to our discord and check it out. We have a whole area that helps with some of the questions you may have

[junior arch]

Thoghli is a real one 💯 Would recommend him and his guild 😄

[cyan elm]

Did the nodes get upgraded to encampments or villages?

[junior arch]

one upgraded to t4 and vassal'd anvils

[dawn dagger]

which one hit t4

[junior arch]

Kal Torhum

[cyan elm]

Oh wow

[dawn dagger]

oh nice

[cyan elm]

That’s huge for the anvils

Glad you all got crafting now

[junior arch]

was hoping for Duunhold honestly v.v

[dawn dagger]

I've been hoping for the Divine node to be in the North and be the major hub for the Anvils since late 2023? Good work game

[junior arch]

Now we need to work on Squall's end for longest crates NA

[lime basin]

It is alright my friend, we shall continue to grind our dwarven beards.

[junior arch]

Ill be coming to vote for you!

I think the whole server could at the very least get behind voting yall into Duunhold

[lime basin]

I would hope so.

[quiet forum]

90% installed!

[junior arch]

oh wait kal is only t3 and vassal'd vexhelm

theres still hope!

[fathom venture]

@wild rune how are you carph items looking bud

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-jbtzxclsv-take-al-lost-loser-gif-14425635

[unique talon]

cant access guild storage.... is that intended?

[quartz nova]

Is there a guild leader discord for Shol? Or is it all done here?

[quartz nova]

Still not available.

[unique talon]

okie. ty

[hollow cipher]

WTB：Bloodrunner set，200g

WTB：Bloodrunner set，200g

WTB：Bloodrunner set，200g

[junior arch]

@sleek walrus How much did you get for the mira crate

[sleek walrus]

ah yknow

gold

[junior arch]

ah

not worth the run then

[sleek walrus]

whats your name?

[junior arch]

<-

[sleek walrus]

ill share info

i think

3g40s

but your liek number 5 so

[junior arch]

it is what it is

this is why items should be destroyed on corruption 🤷‍♂️

[sleek walrus]

true

hoenstly

im ... uh .... testing

oill tell you how far i go in blgiht

and we will see

[junior arch]

🫡

[stone merlin]

Your INDEPENDENT Option in Kal Torhum.

Beholden to no Guild.

To represent ALL of the Citizens

[stuck heath]

players are intercepting crates south of Kal Torhum and then having friend clear their wanted status chat says, saw them on the fast scorpion mounts

oh lol it's the one above right there

[junior arch]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[stuck heath]

nah just saw it in global

[junior arch]

yeee im guessing that would be the 6th person huh @sleek walrus

[sleek walrus]

honestly

i dont know why i didn't corrupt on that one

bug reported it and put it as exploit

maybe the guy fought back last second

maybe he healing waved me ?

and put him as combatant

[stuck heath]

eh seems like they know exactly what theyr'e doing

[junior arch]

it is what it is

sucks to use 2 hours on the run but im just gonna sleep it off

[stuck heath]

there's the other one involved typing I see

[junior arch]

@sleek walrus Hey you died homie

[sleek walrus]

they got me

[junior arch]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-stewie-griffin-gif-23481779

[sleek walrus]

all hial MAYOR OF kal torhum ZOMBIE AND CATSA WITH ABS

he protects his people from the scum of the earth

raiders

[stuck heath]

lol I thought PHD was killing them on purpose was it someone else I logged

[junior arch]

idk i only had time for that single crate before going to sleep so

[sleek walrus]

did it take you 2 hours , i thoguht it was 45 minutes

[junior arch]

i got distracted getting mats if you dont remember

was kinda loaded

[night coral]

anyone crash?

[hallow creek]

me

[north osprey]

yeah, think so

[proven finch]

sw 45 crashing for sure

[grave aurora]

in winstead, crashed

SW 33

I'm back

[hallow creek]

SW 45 on the struggle bus rn

[north osprey]

was back for a sec but crashed again

[dusk phoenix]

anyone else laggin tf out

[night coral]

Yep

[dusk phoenix]

Laggg

i blame polar

wat server hacks are they doin now

fyi if any devs are reading this i prefer to play with crazy lag than not play at all

so its fine tbh

[proven finch]

lost a gold and gained 80k debt in 5min, gonna disagree 😭

[thin berry]

PIcked up enzos ashes. Gained gold and exp

[little flare]

polar scared to fight with EQUAL weapons lmao

[lusty stream]

"dont war deck though we will drop guild" 🤡

[proven grail]

imagine being polar drone #87 and pipiing in /say lol

[shut fossil]

Didnt you get absolutely skull fucked at lighthouse or was that another set of shitters

[analog delta]

What is the harm in roleplaying as our enemies 🤣

[silk hamlet]

Weird how nobody wants to rp as polar even as a joke

https://tenor.com/view/wut-shrug-gif-21587752

[little flare]

nice we got killed by 26 when we had 12

[analog delta]

https://tenor.com/view/grannys-peach-tea-lex-luthor-gif-22885966

u wanna watch someone drink piss as a guild event instead yea maybe rping as supple is a bad idea

good comm

at least only one of you had to sacrifice your yt recommendations... probably only one

[silk hamlet]

I think I've seen this episode of black mirror

[analog delta]

how is supple treating u, are you forced to teach 20 different noobs how to play rn

or did they teach you how to macro

🤣

[proven grail]

salty nikkua ^

[silk hamlet]

Holy, claiming macros because you were getting out tagged at carph by bear traps is wild. And of course making a reddit post to shoot yourselves in the foot after.

Polar trying everything but getting good

💀

[plucky torrent]

Imagine thinking teaching new players is a bad thing... Shows the level of toxicity within POLAR.... @proper igloo Remember this when accepting guides for the game.

[analog delta]

i bet he teaches them the best ability to put on the macro rotation for bards lol... idk if thats the kind of thing u want players to learn dude 💀

[analog delta]

so it is a bear trap when... multiple of your members snap on the closest mobs that spawn and autoattack it down when the mob doesnt appear on screen - literally thin air. This shit is clipped multiple different ways, it is obvious for people that aren't new or those who refuse to believe their lying eyes @silk hamlet . For how much youve complained abt other guilds you'd think you would be the first to call it out 🤣 holy indeed

[cobalt pagoda]

Someone from the guild that just lost all their gear for exploiting trying to accuse someone else of cheating is a bit ironic eh?

[analog delta]

probably can see it on the godchii stream too rofl

[analog delta]

if i ran an alpha i would call every balance change a bug too 🤣

@plucky torrent u want a ban lol, why dont you ping steven again 🍼

see where the ban goes

[sleek walrus]

Crate Robbery is pretty worth it.

Lost my weapon and 2 rings -12g

But i made 44g. It ain't too bad if i do say so myself.

but man that 20% Stat dampening is gonna be hard to work off.... along with that 18 blight Stacks i have no way to work off. ------>Hope a way to remove it comes one day.

[scenic geode]

deeply hilarious, please go on

[analog delta]

sure, what level are you so we can progress

[scenic geode]

I'm already max level girl please don't strawman me I beg of thee

sure girlie delete the message

it's fine

[analog delta]

idk what ur talking about

[shut fossil]

Cool you're always welcome to ask for an 8v8 any time.

[past jasper]

but I was told running caravans wasn't worth it

[silk hamlet]

I'd call it if I saw it but all I see is you coping when supple beat you legitimately. Go make a reddit post about it and see how it goes though. Maybe make up a random stat again for good measure(82%!!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZLDTGcudQ

[pulsar kayak]

day 4 of reporting gold farmers and sellers, still 0 action taken against them

if you guys would help out and report these guys (there is like 10 of them) would be helpful

[torpid hill]

are you reporting them via support tickets with proof?

[past jasper]

Nothing about this screenshot shows they’re gold sellers

Maybe rethink your approach

[pulsar kayak]

maybe the 43 people selling gold and the exact items they are farming on g2g as well as them camping these spots for 15 hours a day is a good hint they are the gold sellers

[past jasper]

So maybe screenshot that?

lol

[pulsar kayak]

i did

and sent it to them

[torpid hill]

idk this doesn't sound like enough proof to me
not sure how you can prove that the ones selling gold are the same people farming.

[past jasper]

The funny thing is a lot of the people who were duping in Epherium are now in Polar

Unlucky really

[silk hamlet]

I'd say a much higher percentage of the people in enveus are in there too

[past jasper]

It’s kind of incredible after all this time that Aftershock wins again

[torpid hill]

they have all the wholesome and ethical players

[silk hamlet]

My man

https://tenor.com/view/farva-gif-27536907

[past jasper]

I need the real Timothy to return

[silk hamlet]

He's at peace

Probably idk

[errant slate]

IM THE REAL TIMOTHY

[willow barn]

And who would that be

[sacred orchid]

EUONTOP

[scenic geode]

They get baned in waves when the detection rolls out. "Still 0 action taken" is a fairly silly jab when steven just wiped polar

[orchid pelican]

@proper igloo Miraleth guards aint attacking people that are attacking caravans in town. Something aint working.

Someones losing caravan as we speak in mira. get a gm on that bro

[quiet tulip]

Leave Helenwong alone right now sir.

[quiet tulip]

Where is Timallen???

[orchid venture]

Hey US people can you make journeyman gatering tools? what resources do they use? weeping willow boards?

[quaint fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-opm-saitama-source-i-made-it-up-gif-24755713

[lucid plume]

When did Steven wipe polar?

[willow barn]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[orchid pelican]

Can someone like fix my citizenship ive been trying to become a citizen in mira for like 5 days now, since i left winsteads.

[scenic geode]

yesterday, thanks for coming to my ted talk

it's okay, you can stop now

[lucid plume]

incorrect bro. they removed all the carphin weapons that were gotten from the event and shouldnt have been. about 600 on the us and about 450 on the eu server. they didnt wipe, reset, ban, etc. a single account.

[scenic geode]

Yes yes, semantics

[lucid plume]

how the fuck is saying "steven wiped polar" and "steven removed specific weapons from a specific event" semantics? 2 totally different things lmao

[scenic geode]

you should rename to seethesuma

[lucid plume]

in that case, steven also wiped supple. and whatever guilds on eu were farming it.

[scenic geode]

yeah they did

[lucid plume]

great. glad were clear on that.

[bronze umbra]

[shut fossil]

literally all eu guilds

the event was pretty common eu knowledge

[past jasper]

Retired with a 1.000 batting average, the goat

[gritty rapids]

Timallens a freak but my time in Aftershock was a good time, most fun I had in bdo I think

Listening to Tim talk shit to his newborn on calls was funny

[past jasper]

My favorite moment in BDO is Tim trying to comm over Alec when we invited him to one of our wars

Dude was fucking hilarious

They don’t make gamers like that anymore

[vocal trail]

Hello everyone, I am new to the game!

[shrewd linden]

Good. Luck.

[vocal trail]

Uh oh. Something I should be worried about?

[umbral hinge]

It's just safer to remind yourself that while yes it's a game, its very much in alpha. Welcome aboard

[vocal trail]

No worries, not expecting a finished product. Just here to hang out, make connections, and eventually play the game at release 😛

[frigid warren]

Welcome! Ashes has a learning curve but is rewarding when you get gud

If you have questions, the questions channel is useful, and here's a tip- talk to npc's in the starting areas with quest markers over their heads asap to start the quests you need

(The markers may only appear when you are close to them)

[vocal trail]

Jotting that down, good to know!

[umbral hinge]

And here's a follow up tip: riverlands starting area is the beginner friendly, really learn and experience game at your own pace kind of vibe. Anvils..is newly introduced with beautiful scenary, but can feel closer to an experience for those who have experience/enjoy learning as quick as possible how to play classes/the game

But like...learning with a brick..but the bricks are hawks and ravens

[vocal trail]

I did read about Anvils. I was told that the new player experience wasn't really fleshed out and they recommended the Riverlands

[shrewd linden]

Be expected to die. Don’t get angry at hen you die and have that exp debt. It happens. It will happen. It’s part of the game. Don’t let exp debt discourage you from playing the game.

[vocal trail]

I do have a question about experience debt...I usually play a tank class. Is that something that needs to be factored?

[junior arch]

https://tenor.com/view/familyguy-rip-gif-5073384

[shrewd linden]

If you die from not being properly healed. Either find a new healer or leave the party. Clerics, Tanks and Bards are vital for parties.

[vocal trail]

Yeah, that's what I am somewhat concerned about as both a new player and a tank player

[shrewd linden]

But in a pvp pov healers tend to die first. So in pvp your safe until after healer dies lol

[vocal trail]

And I read that AoC leans heavily into group play

[junior arch]

That goes the other way too 😂😂 if a tank sits in all the aoe and doesn’t move out of stuff find a new tank

[shrewd linden]

Very true

[umbral hinge]

Here's a little intro to the xp debt for instance my char's dept is at 11.6%, so my stats are all dampened 2.3%. And as you die, your gear can take damage/break.. but also all a part of the enjoyment of the game

Can get out of debt by re-grinding till out of debt atleast

[shrewd linden]

Just try not to die anymore lol

And if you need to repair gear. REPAIR your gear. Don’t eat it hit zero

[umbral hinge]

And don't fight in nodes near guards, despite wars the guards will give you xp debt if they hit you

[vocal trail]

[shrewd linden]

If you plan on crafting. Cry. Just let the tears flow.

[vapid parcel]

how?...

[shrewd linden]

It consumes gold and time

[umbral hinge]

It was at 26% the other day with the whole Joeva/Mira stuff

[vocal trail]

I am guessing as a tank, solo play is probably not something I should be expecting?

[vapid parcel]

not something you should be expecting in Ashes at all

[vocal trail]

Fair point!

[shrewd linden]

Gold is also a huge factor. Invest in mining, lumbering, fishing or herbal. So when you hit level 10 you can sell things on the market. Gold is a huge factor for crafting and buying things.

[vapid parcel]

lemme guess, you in ONIII with Naru leading?

[maiden cave]

its possible with all classes, just very much slower than groups

[sleek walrus]

11% try me lol

[umbral hinge]

Yeh

[umbral hinge]

Love it, absolutely love it

[vapid parcel]

then the xp debt makes sence

[sleek walrus]

I have 20% stat dampening lol

[vocal trail]

Okay. Some people were saying Rogue was a good "solo" class because it can stealth and even harvest in stealth

[umbral hinge]

Oof it's a 20% at full bar? That's rough

Only had a full bar of debt last phase when around level 21, been too long couldn't remember

[shrewd linden]

Sometimes harvest in stealth. It works half the time.

[umbral hinge]

You know how we do it in on3... always up to the nonsense 'till we're not

[vocal trail]

I am guessing the best way to find a guild is in the forums?

[shrewd linden]

Also if you happen to be in a pvp zone. Run. Polar likes to kill people lol

[vapid parcel]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/763503621052563456

[sleek walrus]

honestly id say just play and look for a group thats active around your lvl

[umbral hinge]

There's that way, there is also some recruitment posts through out the day. Can try and get a feel of others play times via the global chat recruitment psots at least

[sleek walrus]

otherwise your gonna ened up in situations you migh tnot like lol

[shrewd linden]

Expect the unexpected and hope for the worst and you won’t be disappointed. It’s an alpha. Things will happen that you might not like.

[vapid parcel]

i mean...Otters still around since pre alpha / P1

[sleek walrus]

very true

Guild i know that are active and have been around sense the start
Otters - pvx
Amnesty pvp oce
Dunhold rp
Project Anvil pvx

Off the top of my head that is , the rest have disbanded , rebranded or jsut come in recently

or are a bit too small to name ... not that thats a bad thing

[vapid parcel]

Axiom been around to

[sleek walrus]

true

IM DUMB

[bold cargo]

Gray Sentinels

Tsk

[sleek walrus]

axiome is a pretty good guild as well

[vocal trail]

Are races a major factor to decide when putting your character together?

[sleek walrus]

nope

[lilac cliff]

@candid mauve PVX KEK

[sleek walrus]

no racial bonus's yet

[vapid parcel]

statwise? no....Dunhold however is a dwarf RP guild so you won't get in without playing a dwarf

[vocal trail]

Ah yet....so it's coming

[sleek walrus]

i think so , but ALOT is still coming lol

[bold cargo]

I thought they decided against racial bonuses?

[sleek walrus]

^see alot gets redacted , i wouldnt be suprsied if the y came or not tbh

[maiden cave]

no, racial bonuses were transferred to backgrounds, racial is purely comsetic now

[vocal trail]

Ah nice. A lot of the races look really cool, like the Tulnar, so I was just curious

Also, thank you all for being welcoming and answering questions. Definitely one of the best introductions to a community

[sleek walrus]

welp dont get use to it xD . youll get trained mobs onto at lvl 10 for you meager amounts of glin t

it a dangerous worl out here

[buoyant apex]

hey people gotta pay their guild taxes somehow

[sleek walrus]

truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue

xD

[vocal trail]

Lol hey, all is fair in war

I'm also reading about Archetypes. So I get to pair one class with another

Kind of like Archeage

[sleek walrus]

smart :D

[lilac cliff]

ehh not really

AA let you combine classes

ashes will let you flavour your og class with abit of spice from another

[vocal trail]

Ahh okay, so you don't get access to the entire skill line?

Kind of just additions?

[lilac cliff]

none of the skills

classic example used by intrepid since we havent seen the secondaries yet is tank + mage = a tank that instead of running forward with a charge skill now teleports forward

[vocal trail]

Oh so it's more visual flair?

[lilac cliff]

there is new info out but tldr its abit of flavour of the secondary added onto the main

changes how skills work and interact

but wont give you more skills

[vocal trail]

Gotcha gotcha

[bold cargo]

Don't think of them as individual 64 classes, but more like 8 classes with 8 different flairs each.

[umbral hinge]

Am still curious to see the archetype stuff be introduced, may consider differing classes actually after it. Only tried out mage, bard, and rogue now really

[vocal trail]

Are Archetypes in Phase 3?

Kind of sounds like they're not currently implemented

[sleek walrus]

they are not

they are supposed to come in late phase 3

so far they have said only tank and cleric archtypes willb eimplimented

but that was said months ago

but should come this phase

[umbral hinge]

👆 biggest thing we've been testing since this part of phase 3 (?) started has been node's leveling up via player activity, and level 4+ towns. There's some dates out there of next class summoner being sometime before the end of the year, but don't have the date off top of my head.

[maiden cave]

should start showing up early/mid next year

[vocal trail]

Ah yes. I do like the ideas of nodes

Especially with the feudal system its going for

I'm also gonna browse the guild section and see what's going on. Then install the game later and began learning/testing everything I can

[umbral hinge]

May your journey through Vera be prosperous, rewarding, and full of excitement

[vapid parcel]

and clams and fish

[vocal trail]

Hmmm you Otter group...were you in Dune Awakening?

I think I've seen y'all around there 😛

[umbral hinge]

I dunno, your name reminds me of someone from Lost Ark actually but I wasn't an Otter there d:

[past jasper]

My only real hope is that we can have an actual shield healer with a cleric archetype

So we can do more preemptive mitigation

[bold cargo]

So far, shields give physical stats rather than magic stats, but you can hold an offhand that is magic. Just not sure there's any shields that do magic stuff

[analog delta]

just get a magical shield for magic stats....

yes they exist

[cold whale]

I believe he means applying a shield / bubble to teammates to preempt and mitigate incoming damage

[surreal condor]

Tin shield and valor's protector used to have int/mag pow. Now all shields have str and some have mana Regen or max mana. That's it

Guess a straight "power" shield could work

[past jasper]

I meant shield healing, like disc priest or scholar lol

versus just playing a healbot doing whack-a-mole with health bars through completely reactive healing

[stray beacon]

I'm just happy they didn't skimp on the choice of hots

[quaint perch]

Is this what the treasure sight is suppose to look like? I have a square icon when hovering over it, but other videos I've seen show the wording "Possible Treasure Location".

[bright lantern]

not likely to be in the circle, could be just outside it. Looking for a mound of sand.

[quaint perch]

Alright. Cuz I looked literally everywhere inside that circle. Will check outside of it

[candid mauve]

Guess that's what I get for making too much gold in global

[quaint perch]

fk yea. got it o7

[bright lantern]

SW 33 says NO - not working

[boreal lagoon]

server dying, ddos again?

[bright lantern]

seems like

[celest lagoon]

o7

[plucky torrent]

o7

[boreal lagoon]

Shol needs a server reset

[obsidian phoenix]

f

[craggy breach]

Hello Nerds, Dweebs, and Dorkuses

[warm swallow]

I took the pvp with me

[candid mauve]

Hiding it from the rest of the server too

[analog delta]

u can apply 11 shields as cleric @past jasper . the Lens of the Ocule shield may have the statlines you are looking for that is missing from the shield category if you are using the codex @surreal condor @bold cargo .

[surreal condor]

Thanks, lemony! I was using ashes. The lens of ocule doesn't flag as shield on codex, and I filtered on codex as shield. Now more things to search for with separate filters.

[viral carbon]

We found some against FBA last night, i thought it was gone.

[mint lodge]

revert poi gear

reinstate all 600 weapons

[limber obsidian]

Hello Axiom

[junior arch]

So has TEN 🥹

[hallow bridge]

I've murdered a few crate runners

I gotta ask why are people running green crates

[lean shuttle]

Confusion, testing, poverty, no respect for their own time, a few other reasons I can think of

[junior arch]

as a green crate runner last night i just wanted to see the route and how it felt 🥹

[graceful raft]

ChibiBree for New Aela Mayor, lets make New Aela fun again.

[craggy fog]

china bot guild

[warm swallow]

@lean shuttle rebuttal?

[pallid burrow]

to grief you

[craggy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/subrote-star-trek-stoned-red-eyes-side-eye-gif-26400151

[warm swallow]

Project anvil zerg oce guild talking shit to honest integrity maxxers Chinese pvpers

[craggy fog]

pvp isn’t real bro

[warm swallow]

Project anvil looking to have their most successful phase gathering on server off peak times and peddling crates with Stevens blessing of uncc-able protection

[craggy fog]

can i join black?

[warm swallow]

@warm shale

Still accepting applications? 🤪

BLACK HAND - non racist pvp specialists 😋

[craggy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-confused-travolta-where-lost-gif-5308454

[stone girder]

@warm creek Guild check

[gritty rapids]

holy

where'd the Polar tag go

Did The Gifted Mage run into some trouble

[craggy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[lunar turtle]

What happened to Anvil

[stone girder]

Probably has to do with what he said on stream

[warm swallow]

One sec bro new godchii lore just dropped

[craggy fog]

new godchii just dropped boys

[stone girder]

I heard Aura is recruiting?

[warm creek]

lmfao it had nothing to do with anything i said on stream

[stone girder]

HMMM

[lunar turtle]

I thought u were a polar rider or die lmfaoo

[warm creek]

they truly lost their undefeated 7x Siege Champ

i was

[warm swallow]

I'm hearing a lot of rumours Godchii care to comment with your perspective

[gritty rapids]

Did they truly lose it or did you get kicked

which is it

[lunar turtle]

Can we get a lore drop

[warm creek]

i left

[gritty rapids]

[craggy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-jaideep-ahlawat-hathiram-chaudhary-paatal-lok-press-conference-gif-17238309

[gritty rapids]

Godchii has become too cool for Polar, holy guacomole

[lunar turtle]

Did u get bullied godchi did tm yell at u to hard

[warm swallow]

Goosebumps 🥶

[gritty rapids]

Did Polar refuse to feed you gear after you got half your gear deleted

[warm creek]

middle of pvp

cant respond

[warm creek]

jokes

im still heavily geared (:

[gritty rapids]

mb mb we do a little trolling in here sometimes

[surreal condor]

I'm invested in the Godchii heroes journey story. Which stage are we at? Step1, step 4? Step 6??

[dawn dagger]

godchii left so he could infilitrate an rp guild for some giga-galaxybrain spy antics

[astral fossil]

LFM Healer/Bard 18+ SB 6/8

whisper Deviant

[primal rain]

bro purple ppl were running white crates i killed 6 ppl and WHITE CRATES

[viral carbon]

bait?

[proven grail]

godchii acting like he isn't doing yellow 2.0 and trying to spy on supple

[sullen pilot]

is it possible to craft a JM hunting bow atm?

[silk hamlet]

Nope, no smithy

[empty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[past jasper]

Wtb boat battles this weekend

Tropics were open season last night

[junior arch]

*carpentry

[silk hamlet]

Truuuu

[hallow bridge]

ez bait 😏

[valid shoal]

Where is foreman to level metalworking?

[harsh trail]

West of lionhold

[noble elk]

Just west of lionshold at avons end

Oh nvm

Ren on the case

[zealous rune]

Oh look, an otter putting their nose where it wasn’t ask for or wanted. Typical.

[trim girder]

My understanding is that you did indeed want it.

[noble elk]

Sorry sorry just trying to be useful

You should give it a shot sometime

[noble elk]

Speaking of useless shit

Crafting fix today

Surely

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/lightyear-youre-mocking-me-arent-you-mocking-mock-me-buzz-lightyear-gif-26374148

[noble elk]

[static summit]

Yeah let’s deploy another untested patch on a Friday to force a rollback later in the day due to a fuck up

[valid shoal]

What does the nak nak key open?

[noble elk]

The chest in the room beside where you got it

Spoiler alert..... The chest is empty

[vocal fiber]

Problem is Nak Nak key drops of multiple non- Nak Nak mobs

Like the lvl 7 gobbo that also drops fleshripper

[noble elk]

[weary saffron]

We are testing it ………

[static summit]

If you push a patch to a server and enable all items on a vendor that wasn't supposed to have it for a patch we are supposed to test, and then have to use the rest of the day to rollback and fix that -- that isn't a "we are testing it" moment....

[noble elk]

Ya while technically everything is a test here that isn't just free reign to make bad decisions and then get away with it.

Seems to be a shield being used more and more often unfortunately.... Like the very intentional mistake with the vendor stuff that was right in the patch notes so was very much not a bug but after massive backlash it was..... Oh sorry guys that was a bug don't know how that got in there

[past jasper]

To be fair they urgently need to fix crafting if mob drops stay this way

[noble elk]

[empty frost]

Yall have never been a part of game testing or testing QA huh

At least we dont have to sit in a designated spot doing the first 3 quests 500 time to find a bug at least here you get some progress

[static summit]

No, this is a cudgel used to beat anyone who has any type of criticsism for devs. I have been playing alpha and beta sandbox pvp mmos for years and I am very familiar with what testing looks like, however this does not mean criticism and honestly when it comes to patches, updates, and dev cycles should result in the "BUT BUT BUT BUT WE'RE TESTING MUUUUUUUUHHHHH" response.

[past jasper]

I mean, that’s not the point of a persistent server test? We aren’t doing QA or bug testing. We’re providing feedback about the game itself.

[noble elk]

A year ago it wasn't far off this

[empty frost]

we are doing all the above

[noble elk]

[past jasper]

If you find a bug, report it. But no one is expected to run against walls for hours to identify broken textures

lol

[empty frost]

we are legit like the people most companies pay to do this shit they just got us to pay them instead

[past jasper]

That is just patently false lol

If you think this is QA testing you know less than anyone else here

[static summit]

[empty frost]

this isnt QA but its pretty close

[noble elk]

Ya bugs and wip are one thing and those are fine and expected...... The concerning part is we are seeing more and more things that are just bad choices being made. Alpha or no alpha a bad choice is a bad choice

[empty frost]

then thay take that and change it/tune it weve gotten loot chanes like 4 times this phase

[static summit]

That's not QA testing.

[empty frost]

i said that

[static summit]

You made a "it's super close so my statement is right" post

[empty frost]

it is close never said it was tho

[past jasper]

No it isn’t, lol. We are reporting things as we find them. This is not the same thing as QA where you ensure something works based on every possible interaction.

[past jasper]

Homie fucking quotes AI lol

[static summit]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-baby-what-is-you-doing-gif-19439946

[empty frost]

okay what webet you want me to quote from

this one better

[past jasper]

Who needs to quote anything

[empty frost]

im proving im right are you're dumb

so

me

[static summit]

[past jasper]

LMFAO

[empty frost]

is indeed a better site to quote

🙂

[static summit]

Can I ask a question?

[past jasper]

Peak zoomer moment dude

[empty frost]

can you answerer mine

[past jasper]

Enjoy the rest of your day, I needed this laugh

[static summit]

3rd line, second word, what is the definition of that word?

[empty frost]

we are the testers its not done

[static summit]

That is the correct answer.

[past jasper]

You expect him to actually read?

[static summit]

He posted that definition, not me.

[empty frost]

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/what-is-quality-assurance-testing

go ahead and read the whole thing and come back to me

[static summit]

Yup, indeed.com link.

[past jasper]

Lmfaoooo

[static summit]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-im-done-gone-bye-gif-14331061352776093889

Enjoy your QA testing of Ashes.

I wish you the best.

[past jasper]

Also

[past jasper]

Read beyond the fucking title, zoomer

[empty frost]

keep reading

you can get there i believe in you

[past jasper]

Belive me

Ahahahah

[lone quarry]

I swear to god gacha players are the dumbest fucking people alive

[past jasper]

Make sure to put being an alpha 3 player on your resume homie

It’s kinda like QA testing, right?

[surreal condor]

I mean, one can argue that we are definitely doing QA because their QA is terrible 🤣

It's like, being paid in exposure, with none of the actual experience of the back end

We are testers. Game companies have testers in the QA branch, but there's more to QA branch

[cyan elm]

You just jealous you didn’t pull the SSR card in pretty derby

[lunar valley]

Hey folks friendly reminder and fair warning of one of the most recent exploits.
#1415962926979743744 message
Please give it a read, it explains in detail whats occurring and provides a possible solution to prevent yourselves from becoming a victim

[proper vortex]

Thanks for the short notice on the restart, Intrepid please figure out a system so our crates dont disappear when you restart or you crash

[shrewd linden]

When you crash people pick your crates up and take them. Restart is just a disappearing act.

[proper vortex]

broken system

[past jasper]

Has to be this way to prevent people from just logging out to avoid PvP

Cut your losses

System will never change

[noble elk]

Must be a way to make it only drop if you are involved in combat or something

Walking a crate for an hour then losing it to a computer crash or short notice downtime is crazy

[golden prairie]

I got booted earlier running a crate from winsteads to anvils. by the time I got back on crate was gone. what is the decay time?

[lunar valley]

Someone may have stolen your crate

[lunar valley]

Please don't miss this post. Make yourselves aware of this before you get victimized by it.

[vernal grotto]

F?

[surreal condor]

Leave crate on ground could be a solution

[past jasper]

Nope. You drop it no matter what. It will be beyond stupid for people to just log out the second they see a boat coming toward them on the ocean

Being in combat should not be the factor

[noble elk]

WTB mushroom

I want to look ridiculous too

[junior arch]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-i-believe-you-do-leonardo-da-vinci-aidan-turner-leonardo-i-believe-you-can-gif-21592067

[past jasper]

that is what it is supposed to do but who knows if that's how it works rn or if they're despawning too quickly

thankfully easy thing to record and test with a friend

[noble elk]

what would an otter be if not filled with nonsense?

[stone merlin]

Settlements are social organizations just like guilds and religious communities (when they get here) and as such they are best served with their own organizational and social tools. I have created such a discord for Kal Tohrum to promote secure (as can be internal communications for community, trade, and defense. You will have to fill out a 4 (yes/no) question application and I will have to verify you in citizen chat to promote you past new arrival/visitor

https://discord.gg/eYdcNZUR

I hope to see you there

[lunar valley]

Hey folks friendly reminder and fair warning of one of the most recent exploits.
#1415962926979743744 message
Please give it a read, it explains in detail whats occurring and provides a possible solution to prevent yourselves from becoming a victim

[analog delta]

SUMMONER VIDEO LEAK

[fleet arrow]

What's the closest settlement to Hammer Rest?

[nocturne stag]

Level 10 Cleric looking for group to farm Varnocks Forge, Surge Conduit and HollowHearth.

[dusky scarab]

This lag is crazy

[orchid pelican]

Guys the djinna node is missing. I think i found where all the slate and obsidian went too in the desert.

[lilac wolf]

Trying to find the commodity station in Joeva for my practice crate ... is it hidden somewhere in the marketplace?

[weary saffron]

TMXD - POLAR CARAVAN OFF SAMIRAS HOPE COAST - GO KILL THEM .

[junior arch]

I’d rather ignore them completely tbh. They have so much adhd they’ll die from boredom.

[noble elk]

@shut widget looks like another polar van needs defending

maybe this time they will pay you the defender fee

[shut widget]

ON MY WAY GUYS #POLARBEARS

[noble elk]

[rapid crater]

Is JM lumberjacking axe out yet or bugged?

[stone merlin]

Post ingeneral says bugged

[languid shell]

So with guild storages down, when they come back up will we still have the stuff in them? my guild had like 90% of the storage full of recipes

[dense iris]

who is polar and why does everyone wanna kill them

[vital sun]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-gif-5430850758035663288

[lime basin]

@serene bobcat You DARE talk smack about Dwarves yet again!!?!?!

Your knife ears will be hangin' on a rack soon enough ye leaf lover.

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-you-have-a-debt-to-pay-potc-gif-22551643

[thin berry]

Gross. RPer, ever worse, a dwarf. Nikua please....

[lime basin]

Quiet ye ninnie, nothin' but a bag o' leaves ye are!

[thin berry]

Horny elves are the best race, then Victoria secret humans second.

[lime basin]

Best for cuttin' down and feedin' to the orcs aye!

[thin berry]

There are no orcs. Take your meds.

[lime basin]

https://tenor.com/view/owain-arthur-durin-iv-the-rings-of-power-gif-26529541

[thin berry]

https://tenor.com/view/midget-fight-fighting-me-gif-19019311

[craggy breach]

Everyones a RPer tho

Lotta people hating on RP while RPing someone important online

[thin berry]

Aye. The other Sovereign

Nah rp is fine. I'm just a dwarf hater.

[stone merlin]

It's all roll play... if some folks spoke on the street like they throw salt here, plastic surgeons would make bank on fixing noses.

[craggy breach]

You know people think we are brothers and they hate us both?

[craggy breach]

Might be a Minotaur

[languid shell]

i RP as someone who doesnt RP.

But also my tank isnt really a Vek hes a Human who just cant get a chance to heal because hes a tank so he looks like a Vek.

[atomic estuary]

What town is building a arcane workshop?

[night coral]

I think its called Vhalgrim or something

[heady holly]

i started up north and it seems a underdeveloped, is there a safe path south so I can do some crafting?

[sleek aspen]

might be quicker to remake char

if your really low

[calm drum]

while ive heard terrors of the burd spam up north, mob kiting your way through the tropics is doable.

[primal rain]

@lime basin dunir are smelly

nikua chads rise up

[oblique oak]

if you run south along the very edge of the tropics where the map essentially ends and will stop you from walking into it you'll run into almost zero mobs the whole way.

[vagrant lantern]

can i travel from the anvils and become citizen in windstead?

[lime basin]

Sry, I don’t understand talk from a color

[sleek aspen]

laggy af...

[night barn]

Where should I go to find market where I would be able to buy early game copper items?

[dark monolith]

Winstead is your best bet but the price floor on "early game" copper items is stupidly high due to their processing costs. So be prepared to not be able to afford them.

[burnt finch]

Anyone got the daily POLAR drama for me?

[pallid burrow]

Lloyd wouldnt let me kill him with his crate, incredibly toxic

[burnt finch]

Well that’s just incredibly rude of him!

[stoic terrace]

I just made the run yesterday on my level 5. Swim the river most the way south thru the Anvils to avoid mobs. Have to get out a couple times to pass waterfalls. I only took one death in the Tropics from bloom plants but I had run past the Windandsea emberspring so didn't set me back too far. Good luck, it's a rough gauntlet, especially all the birds still in the Anvils.

[proper vortex]

It really sucks to have apprentice arcane engeneering, yet I have to by my wands and focuses, becasue i cant make them, and by the time the table is up and i can actually see these recipes i will have out leveled anything I would have wanted to make, doesnt make sense...vent over

[weak trail]

Miraleth needs assistance with 9 more Hunting Crates to finish construction on Trade Bureau. There’s only half a day left.

Hope anyone can assist in completing this as soon as possible.

[cloud canopy]

is there a master lumberjack near dunzenkell or only near winstead?

[rustic jacinth]

People are crying on reddit and it's funny

[manic crystal]

https://imgur.com/draSPZT

[willow barn]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-quite-zesty-yummy-delicious-amazing-food-tasty-gif-14523968

[hallow creek]

crash?

[stiff torrent]

think so

[celest lagoon]

jesus christ that was some bad lag

looked like i had 2000ms ping lol

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/going-to-bed-fail-caleb-labelle-daniel-labelle-midair-lagging-fall-to-the-floor-gif-27075152

[dawn dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/terry-davis-cigarette-cia-hat-flanel-gif-11488411066314067703

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/ashes-of-creation-gif-21770381

[outer shard]

Where can i drop the BLOODRUNNER set?

[proven finch]

rubberbanding in sw 35

[plucky torrent]

servers back up

[dusty pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[queen coral]

Anyone know where “The Curio Peddler” actually spawns in carph?

[queen coral]

Thanks!

[wooden sphinx]

where are the processed materials (timber or weaponmold) from?

[oak solstice]

You have to take wood to a processing station for Carpentry to get timber and Stone plus Timber to a Stonemasonry table to get molds

[vernal grotto]

someone make a ticket please, am tired of makin em. Guy is macroing in oakbane since days and openly talks about it

Heavy translator accent - my guess is china

[wooden sphinx]

there are no recipes for "processed" whatever .. and the timber or weaponmolds I made do not count for the novice mining pickaxe I am trying to make

[oak solstice]

Novice tools are made at the weapons smithing table or the Carpentry bench and you should be able to use any Wood type and any Mold type. You may have to do a drop down selection to pick which you have. Pickaxe is done at the weapons smithing table.

[wooden sphinx]

I tried that earlier .. had mats in my inv and I could not assign the timber and the mold to the recipe.. Will try again

[oak solstice]

You have the processed Copper(Copper fragments) as well?

[wooden sphinx]

yea .. the copper was the only material I could assign

[oak solstice]

Huh, is all the processed wood of the same type?
Which Settlement are you trying to do this at?

[wooden sphinx]

no settlement .. outside of lionshold .. its only the novice tool

[oak solstice]

Avon's end? Hmm that should work just fine

[pallid burrow]

devils advocate, if you're assuming its a translator being used theres a chance he meant to say keybinds instead of mouse macros

not saying hes not doing it though

[valid shoal]

Where is the storage in Lionhold?

[wooden sphinx]

at the south end on the right

anyone else not able to gather? I have the animation but get no materials

[oblique oak]

The resource nodes have been glitched since s last night just have to continue on run a bit away and they will be gathers le again

[wooden bluff]

anyone farming on Highwayman Hills? need a group for xp farming, Mage lvl 9

[alpine sluice]

apprentice tailor/JM weaver available for work ❤️

[junior arch]

I don’t believe you

Crafting in this economy?! Everyone says it’s impossible

[frozen pond]

So we will be getting master buildings soon ?

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[lucid plume]

No lol

[frozen pond]

So why nottanko buying emblems for 29 lvl weapon :)?

[lucid plume]

Because there's nothing else to spend gold on

[thin berry]

Wooo its done. Now either keep it or sell for 100g. idk yet

[cinder dome]

All that just to be perma cc by rogue

[thin berry]

At least I got 40% crit defense

and 243 power

dies from mana drain

[hallow bridge]

But I was told crafting was impossible 😔

[vapid parcel]

gatherig is impossible with the amount of ghost gathering nodes going on right now

[light pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/dai-li-there-is-no-war-in-ba-sing-se-avatar-the-last-airbender-atla-gif-8637373311041898553

[past jasper]

Hey guys, what’s this? I thought crafting was gonna take weeks to be competitive to mob drops?

[dusty pecan]

look like weeks to me

[past jasper]

That is what people were saying on Friday

lol

When they nerfed mob drops last week

Especially funny when you think about the fact that Polar probably blew all their JM scrolls on Cindersongs that'll be outclassed by level 29 craftables by the end of the month

here's a good one

[junior arch]

I don’t think his 1 bow beats full sets of dropped gear and numbers but I mean, it’s for sure a nice bow! I’m sure it didn’t take a good portion of his guild pitching in or anything. Maybe some large purchases that most people don’t have the capital for but aye it’s comparable to a drop someone spent a handful of hours grinding for 😂

[past jasper]

Crafting an epic bow definitely takes more resources but it’s literally just ash and daffodils. It’s really not hard to pump out green and blue versions of these that still have 2.2-2.6k power

[junior arch]

It’s not lol the amount of oak you need is insane

[past jasper]

Which is essentially on par with what dropped in Steelbloom

It’s 66 oak

240 ash

[junior arch]

You can’t make bolts without oak boards

[past jasper]

Yes. It’s 66

You can’t scrounge up 66 green oak?

lol

You can craft blue weapons just with 66 epic oak and daffodils

[junior arch]

For an epic bow you need heroic+ oak for the boards but ok

[past jasper]

Okay

So don’t make epic ones?

[junior arch]

Brother have you gathered oak before lol

[past jasper]

Have you? I have a stash full of blue plus oak

[junior arch]

It’s the hunting of trees

Blue isnt heroic + 😂😂😂

I have a million blues

Congrats for participating

[past jasper]

I pulled 35 heroic oak just yesterday afternoon

I really don’t understand the issue here

Yes it will take you more than a day to gather and craft an epic bow

lol

Just make a blue bow for now and work on the legendary.

Really isn’t that deep homie

[junior arch]

Huh o.o I’m laughing at you thinking that crafting is compatible at this stage

Your reading comprehension isnt that deep homie

[past jasper]

I know everyone doesn’t actually want to play this game and just want to poop sock it for a week and claim they speed ran it like it’s Classic WoW

[junior arch]

I’ve made and sold plenty of blue/herioc/epic bows already my guy I’m all good with how crafting is.

But realistically I could’ve been full kit and better gear if I didn’t craft

It’s not comparable

[past jasper]

lol

Game has been live for barely 3 weeks and people are already crafting near-BiS weapons for an MMORPG wipe that’s supposed to last a year

But sure, crafting is bad. Makes sense.

[junior arch]

brother lol one crafted weapon doesn’t do anything outside of tell people he has more resources than them.

[past jasper]

Again, I’m just convinced people have the attention span of a gold fish and don’t really want to grind. They just want to level rush to SB and gear out in a week

And I get past phases have been like that

But that was a huge issue

It’ll take you a few more weeks to be able to pump out a legendary 23 bow and that’s okay

Impatience doesn’t make crafting bad

By that point they’ll probably fix the JM recipes anyway and we’ll be working toward 29s

[junior arch]

I’ve been telling everyone craft common/uncommon and save for heroic+ for weeks now.

[past jasper]

Which is why I said that making green/blue 23s should be the target

[junior arch]

I’m not one of the people who’s freaking out about crafting cause I like how it’s set up right now.

[past jasper]

That is literally what I said from the beginning lol

[junior arch]

But that doesn’t mean it’s anywhere close to just going to grind gear and exp

[past jasper]

Compared to start of phase 3? Yes

But that was also way too fast for how long p3 is supposed to last

[junior arch]

Start of p3 was the best start to a wipe imo

No drops and lots of mats to gather

[past jasper]

Everyone being full geared in a week would make this wipe dead in a month just like p2

Now people have a reason to run packs

[junior arch]

Everyone was geared in a week because they bumped drop rates

[past jasper]

And gatherers make bank now because crates actually use resources and not just glint

P1/P2 had zero fucking PvP

Outside of lawless zones

I’ve already had more PvP this phase than both 1 and 2 combined just solely because it’s actually worth corrupting over crates

[junior arch]

Start of wipes people flagged in POIs but people stopped after a month. All the PvP was just ccing supports.

[past jasper]

And the sooner other guilds figure that out the more fun we’re all going to have

Versus just sitting in Carphin for 2 weeks, getting gear, and having guild wars with polar who just log out when they start losing

P2 was dogshit and anyone who says otherwise is just someone who doesn’t actually want this game to succeed. Ashes stands out from other games the closer it turns into ArcheAge where gathering, crafting, and trade packs become the primary gameplay loop

Sitting in SB/Carph to gear up is literal WoW clone dogshit we’ve been suffering from the last 10+ years since AA died

And if people are too lazy to gather they can glint grind like they used to

[pulsar kayak]

stupidity of people in this game keeps surprising me

[woeful ravine]

The more I dig into the current system the more I find it to be okay. My biggest complaint is the extra vender items. Its just a lot of clutter for no real gain. All the items that go into the crafted items are weighed equally instead of by how many of an item. Weapon molds now matter more. Also the 2 tin and the 60 copper ingots are weighed the same so you can use less quality in the copper and balance it with just a couple of high quality tin.

[past jasper]

The cost of processing and processing time is still unreasonable yes

But these can be fine tuned

[woeful ravine]

Its high, worse with the vender items. Without those i would feel its in a good place price wise

Im okay with the times

[past jasper]

The double taxing is what is bad

[woeful ravine]

Double taxing?

Or you mean the tax for refining and the tax you pay for reagents?

[past jasper]

The latter

[woeful ravine]

Ah okay yeah

[lunar turtle]

Nah p2 had a shit load of PvP u just were never on orgot perma content denied tbh dopemine was the worst guild ever straight abomination tanner is slow in the head

[past jasper]

Lmao

I am being hyperbolic but P2 was trash and I am getting a lot more enjoyable PvP this phase

Most of P2 PvP was griefing over spots

Ship PvP is especially hilarious

[lunar turtle]

I get what u mean but p2 was legit based on what guild u were in dope was ass I’m ngl in polar we did have a lot of fun like 3 hour of PvP almost everyday type shit fun

[primal rain]

what’s the argument team

[past jasper]

Yeah at 6 am

[primal rain]

i’m restarting my computer

[past jasper]

lol

[primal rain]

driver crashes

yktv

[lunar turtle]

Very true but that we go where the content is was the same shit in Eph on Korea thou so 🤷

[past jasper]

The other huge problem with p2 is that it required way too much server cooperation to upgrade nodes

So ganking caravans was gutting your own progress

It was shit

Stop gaslighting

And the Korea sieges were at least on the weekend

And they were at 8 am

Not the same

[lunar turtle]

Bro u know im right im sorry gac u had a shit time but that shit was fun asf if tanner wasn’t so brain ded and constantly denying PvP because he allied the whole server u woulda had fun to

[past jasper]

Separating construction crates from money crates is the best part of p3

[astral fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[past jasper]

Tanner was fine. I actually respect the hell out of him. He stepped up when no one else would. I have a lot more respect for him than the rats that scurried to Polar of all guilds. Especially when supple is playing this wipe

Like yikes dude. Serious cuck energy

[warm swallow]

P2 pvp was goated

Only outdone by early p2.5

[pulsar kayak]

p2 was fun if u were giga geared one shotting everyone

[warm swallow]

It was not hard to keep pave in p2 gearing

[sudden flame]

PvP's been fun this phase

[warm swallow]

Pace

[pulsar kayak]

it was the ahrdest because of no diminisihng returns

[sudden flame]

yeah but crafting was like 10 wood for a good item

now its hundreds

[pulsar kayak]

most people had garbage gear

[warm swallow]

20 Lego willow for bis bow static respawns = 1 tree

[pulsar kayak]

it was just running caravans for gold to enchant, if people didnt do that they were fked

[warm swallow]

There are other ways to make money, but yes the van meta brought even more pvp

[past jasper]

Saying P2 PvP was goated when it was literally just people auto-attacking each other is a green parsing Classic player take.

I get you’re not capable of much, but some of us actually want PvP to involve pressing buttons.

[warm swallow]

I meant the frequency of it more than anything

[past jasper]

Like holy fuck lol

[pulsar kayak]

they defo need to reintroduce a gold sink like enchanting was

that made a fun gameplay loop with the vans

[past jasper]

Average PvP clip in P2 was bards batchesting over auto attack people to death with Tumok wand

[sudden flame]

More like rangers 1 tapping with snipe or mages frost beaming for 5k lol

[warm swallow]

They took away every incentive for small scale pvp with named lawless mobs meaning nothing, and vans being replaced by crates.
Like fights in p3 are the least objective based handshake agreement dogshit

(Small scale lens)

[pulsar kayak]

I still miss the old bard, og rogue

[past jasper]

Or ganking people while they’re trying to click attack on 500 caravans

Great content dude

[warm swallow]

Maybe once the Braidwood vans come online people will get more comfortable running them (idfk)

[past jasper]

Miss that

[warm swallow]

Wasn't perfect but I feel like a few qol changes could have been made instead of complete system overhaul

[sudden flame]

70 van events on my screen

holy that was aids

[past jasper]

Ship PvP with packs will be a lot more enjoyable for everyone vs. people running 40 caravans

Especially once sport fishing comes in

[astral fossil]

I feel like it needs to be said- does it really hurt to compensate us with xp or something for losses due to crashing? It's not official and the amount of time setback from xp debt in deaths from server down or rollbacks adds up to HOURS. I'd like to get to other parts of the game..

[past jasper]

Corrupting on crates is worth it like 95% the time.

You do not need to wear your BiS when corrupting, and most gear will be easily replaced once crafting patch goes through this week

Corruption PvP is perfectly viable wearing the grey shit that drops inSB

This is again why mob drops conflict with how the game should be played. There was so much gear fear wrapped up in blue SB set drops because no one wanted to ever go back the moment they were done

But once the tannery is up blue SB sets will be easily replaced

Like who gives a shit if you lose a green bloom hood going corrupt when it can be easily remade.

[thin berry]

Early 2.5 jundark was peak pvp.

[woeful ravine]

Yes, yes it was. That was damn fun

[thin berry]

These people corrupting on crates is going to force them to make corruption worse and then everyone is going to be shocked. I haven't killed a single crate runner, nor my guild, and I'm in near bis for whats available.

[past jasper]

Corruption PvP is a part of the game

Why would they change it?

[thin berry]

They obviously meant for crates to be non pvp vs caravans. Having people out of guild, alts, drowning, unstucking to clear corruption. The biggest problem is people not hunting them down. We had a 20 man show up and steal people's gear who were hunting crate runners.

[past jasper]

???

Nothing about this game is opt-out PvP lol

Not even towns or the tutorial areas are safe zones

Do you understand what kind of MMO you paid into?

[thin berry]

People know people are killing crate runners. Idk why some guilds dont group up and defend the runners and get free corruption gear.

[past jasper]

Because a lot of the people playing this game are afraid to join guilds or make friends.

They’ve been trained to play MMOs like a glorified single player game from years of FF and WoW

They’ll figure it out or quit

[woeful ravine]

I have to agree with gac on this one. Corruption pvp is a high risk but legitimate way to play the game even if its not something I would personally do.

[past jasper]

Reality is corruption PvP is an intended part of the game. People just need to join a guild, group up, and actually defend each other

Nothing about crates is meant to be free gold running

It’s just the equivalent of running a donkey in AA

[thin berry]

That's fair.

[woeful ravine]

Yeah we had a great fight with haven yesterday. Couple of then jumped one of our guys. Our guild came their guild came and we wrecked their face. They fought though which i can respect because so many people refuse to

[thin berry]

Usually not an issue for us, since we defend our runners unless they sneak off alone.

[past jasper]

And people need to stop being carebears because in another week or 2 it’s only going to be worth your time running ships full of crates at a time, and the ocean is lawless

So get your reps in now

I doubt solo crate running was even intended to be as profitable as it is right now

[thin berry]

I usually find crate killing unfun pvp. Those people are usually undergeared. It's more enjoyable to hunt in lawless.

[woeful ravine]

Low lvl pvp is a real thing

[hallow bridge]

the average noob is running green/blues across the world for 1-2 gold tbh i don’t think their efficiency will improve

[thin berry]

Gatekeeping low levels and then surprised later there's no pvp.

[hallow bridge]

I’ve killed 6 crate carriers in lawless, 4 green crates 2 blues

[past jasper]

Okay. So. The game is going to have a dynamic economy. Turning in crates will lower the value of the route over time.

It is actually in your best interest to prevent other people from turning in crates. This isn’t about ganking lowbies.

[thin berry]

Id rather everyone get decked out. Better pvp that way.

[past jasper]

This will be especially important when the Gilda star equivalent gets added to GM crafting recipes

And letting other boats just freely move between harbors directly hurts YOUR progress

I have to ask again if you know what game you paid into

[hallow bridge]

It’s pretty easy to get decked out this phase crafting heroic/epic lvl 26 stuff is pretty baseline tbh

[warm swallow]

You're fighting ghosts man

Gac what lvl you sitting at rn

[past jasper]

Who gives a fuck?

Is that really your only material? Lol

[warm swallow]

🤪

[hallow bridge]

Comon Gac less yap more leveling

Get to it!

[warm swallow]

I don't think we've had the pleasure of pvping each other

[past jasper]

I’m inches from 24, I think

[warm swallow]

Taking out your anger from pugging by cursing players out in here

Shame

[past jasper]

Huh?

I think I pugged for like one day, and only during a Saturday morning when none of my friends were online. You creeping on me or something?

[warm swallow]

I can spot lyneth players by the way they type

I don't know you

I just know how u guys talk 🤪

[past jasper]

Making me feel the chills, bro

@hallow bridge we better watch out

[warm swallow]

Once gac hits 25 it's over !

[past jasper]

Get new material bro

No one cares you worldraced an alpha

[hallow bridge]

today I learned hitting lvl 25 within 3 weeks was worldracing 🤔

[warm swallow]

https://youtu.be/sG7VCBl84Q4?si=0FznJcC5T_Vhbayt

[hallow bridge]

this is a diabolical find