#alpha-two-shol-us
vocal fiber
vocal fiber
Just an ai gen image - tbh impressive it can do a mostly coherent paragraph
Storming in is actual fire, haven't used that pun before
dawn dagger
like a dollar store doc with more spelling errors
vocal fiber
Chefs counter 2nite
crystal scroll
summoner out yet?
vocal fiber
zenith onyxBOT
frigid warren
... what's the purpose for shol chat
There's only one realm, so it's kinda... moot isn't it 
tardy warren
I enjoy seeing ppl in holiday sharing nice food pics. a lot better than drama
frigid warren
I've given thunder 1(one) brownie point for life blogging but not complaining about the Poors like we've seen before 
proven cedar
This gets posted now but not when someone shits up the entire channel for a week with pictures from their holiday lmao
warm swallow
Lookup please don't antagonise the moderators, they do good work and cant be everywhere
Also note there are no pinned messages in this chat 🤪
frigid warren
I should probably make it clear that my statements weren't questioning the mod's statement, just more... existential questions about shol chat
3am thoughts, if you will.
weak trail
New Mayors of July:
Riverlands
[APEX] Sycloness - Halcyon
[?] Misfortune - Winstead
[VICE] Thundering - Miraleth
Desert
[Project Anvil] - Caesar - Sunhaven
[Horizon] Spark - Azmaran
Tropics
[Polar] Shay - Windansea
[Order of Honor] Shaka - Shorefoot
[AURA] yellow - Seahook
midnight surge
dont forget yellow in seahook
weak trail
haha thx :D
warm swallow
^harrasment
dawn dagger
mods so bad they don't get paid, and they perma'd Tmugsy so people wouldn't call them Polar fanbois smh :pepehands:
proven cedar
@warm swallow what timeout lmaooooo
dawn dagger
send help, I'm getting farmed trying to figure out how to add a ricasso in this game
stuck perch
so what happened to sol deus?
lilac cliff
like everyone else not hyper delusional they are relaxing and holiday till p3
sacred orchid
so what happened to sol deus?
no content
patent junco
like everyone else not hyper delusional they are relaxing and holiday till p3
Feeling more and more like a Beta angle 🤷🏻♂️
lilac cliff
Feeling more and more like a Beta angle 🤷🏻♂️
not playing p3 is bitchmade but passing on the dead racoon in a flaming dumpster that was 2.5 is reasonable
patent junco
not playing p3 is bitchmade but passing on the dead racoon in a flaming dumpster...
P3 looking no different to 2.5 as it stands but time will tell next 3 weeks 🤷🏻♂️
proven cedar
^harrasment
midnight surge
^harrasment
sacred orchid
P3 looking no different to 2.5 as it stands but time will tell next 3 weeks 🤷🏻...
U should join the mop gaming 
midnight surge
midnight surge
P3 looking no different to 2.5 as it stands but time will tell next 3 weeks 🤷🏻...
dont play mop, theres tons of dope games to play while you wait
candid mauve
so what happened to sol deus?
I've never heard of these people
candid mauve
U should join the mop gaming <a:kkonagif:1349110502243958825>
Yea I heard all 2000 of FED will be playing that for the next 10 years so we will never see them again (did we ever?)
willow barn
Yea I heard all 2000 of FED will be playing that for the next 10 years so we wil...
thank god
shut fossil
Yea I heard all 2000 of FED will be playing that for the next 10 years so we wil...
Legends say they are still finding the create character button
Probs still haven't figured out you need to click a character slot before you go for create character
midnight surge
candid mauve
They were right when they said the federation is kinda like the empire from star wars
Neither exist in real life
sacred orchid
Probs still haven't figured out you need to click a character slot before you go...
what was the whole alliance about
the super alliance with over 700 people
was ready for that
shut fossil
what was the whole alliance about
The content killer
sacred orchid
Reminder to roll EU server for P3 to play with/against the best players in the world
sudden flame
Reminder to roll EU server for P3 to play with/against the best players in the w...
Miruku isn't allowed to go home, ty for understanding
He will be the EU diplomat in NA. We will send you guys @prime panther in return as the NA diplomat
sacred orchid
Idc
errant slate
I THINK WE SEND SIKHAZE
sudden flame
Air drop Sikhaze into the ME and he stops all aggression over night
errant slate
FACTS
noble elk
prime panther
He will be the EU diplomat in NA. We will send you guys <@476568188830875650> in...
WHAT I DO
sudden flame
Tried playing fighter
sudden flame
noble elk
vocal fiber
Fighter underrated, just not utilized properly in macro strat
sacred orchid
midnight surge
sleek walrus
Anyone know what a High Phys power is these days?
lilac cliff
Anyone know what a High Phys power is these days?
220-230
willow barn
Crazy how people dont allow fighters
shit class
sleek walrus
thank you orphan crippler :)
gritty rapids
better idea
just have eu play on na in p3 anyways
you guys will have more fun here because most of eu wants to pve 🙂
dawn dagger
you guys are wild thinking that we'll have enough people for more than one server on aug 4th imo
frigid warren
For the most awaitied server opening for like, a year? Yeah I'm expecting at least five thousand. Didnt p2.5 have like, 5k? Or am i misremembering
dawn dagger
and p1 was most awaited, then p2, then it was 2.25,2.5 etc. It's just a massive cope. Anyone who was interested in Ashes already played it or watched people playing it. Sorry, testing.
proven grail
Fighter underrated, just not utilized properly in macro strat
what macro strat bro
just recruit 400 players and tell them to hit rain of death
clever rain
0/
vocal fiber
Macro L200 is understanding how the mechanics of the game i.e. "slideshow pvp" interplay with the toolkits available
frigid warren
and p1 was most awaited, then p2, then it was 2.25,2.5 etc. It's just a massive ...
... people get excited for game updates, yes. Like damn dude you ever play minecraft
shut fossil
just recruit 400 players and tell them to hit rain of death
Recruit 400 players, 90% of players cannot beat character creation boss.
Which guild am I
stoic wagon
All guilds
dawn dagger
... people get excited for game updates, yes. Like damn dude you ever play minec...
One day Discord will just have a button that lets you auto reply to drivel pings with AI. But until then, this will suffice
frigid warren
One day Discord will just have a button that lets you auto reply to drivel pings...
Sorry, i have too much joi de vivre to read that. And i have clinical depression
lament eagle
and p1 was most awaited, then p2, then it was 2.25,2.5 etc. It's just a massive ...
P1 was most awaited but a ton of people were told outright do not join during P1, the actual playable hours were very tiny and things were expected(And were) very scuffed
And a lot of people didn't get P2 because they were figuring, rightfully so, that there'd be a wipe for P3
There's probably a good number of keys bought but it's still gonna be dead as shit
tardy warren
P3 will most likely have wipes as well. i do hope ppl realise this as well
lament eagle
The only way that changes is if Intrepid is going hard enough this month to set interns on fire
lament eagle
P3 will most likely have wipes as well. i do hope ppl realise this as well
Anyone halfway competent realizes it yeah, but a lot of people don't pay attention or understand the point of an alpha so they just treat it all like a game
tardy warren
well, that's inevitable as well. it is what it is.
torpid hill
P3 will most likely have wipes as well. i do hope ppl realise this as well
I don't think it will
because the next time there will be a wipe after Aug 4, it'll be called Phase 4 
tardy warren
Steven said that when they bring up a system, which i forgot what it was, we might expect another wipe
doesn't say much but this is what i remember 😄
might remember wrong however
torpid hill
i think at the current state of the game it's good to have wipes regardless.
fresh starts are one of the most fun parts rn IMO.
there is not much to do at max level anyways currently
(this might be a hot take tho)
sacred orchid
you guys are wild thinking that we'll have enough people for more than one serve...
thats why they all should come EU
to play with the big bois
dawn dagger
thats why they all should come EU
Really holding out for an EU server with Steven popping into Shol chat and asking EU how ping was, bold move, cotton imo
sacred orchid
❓
If hes giving us one server good if not roll EU
unless you wanna dodge
dont blame anyone for not wanting to get rolled
🤷♂️
lean shuttle
Just make the server in Australia, everyone suffers equally.
dawn dagger
unless you wanna dodge
ahh gotcha, eu or dodge angle
sacred orchid
Just make the server in Australia, everyone suffers equally.
that was my first suggestion rotate server locations 2 weeks NA 2 weeks EU 1 week OCE so everyone suffers
tardy warren
they should add geolocation verification. ppl from NA should only play on NA. ppl from EU, they can play on which server they want because they bring positive vibes and love
sacred orchid
nah i want na come to us to compete 
tardy warren
oh ok, so you want a separated server, got it
glad abyss
craggy breach
I will not be surprised if they just make a single server again. There’s not much by way of the alpha and I expect it to die off relatively quickly.
glad abyss
custom server prime time
torpid hill
custom server prime time <:Prayge:853634510821130270>
how would that work?
or you mean a primetime that's good for both EU and US?
glad abyss
or you mean a primetime that's good for both EU and US?
yeah thats what i meant
(im sorry oce)
torpid hill
that'd probably be much better for EU than US
sacred orchid
eh fuck em, their own fault they live in the back end of the world
torpid hill
i mean the shared primetime
dawn dagger
nah, played enough MMOs where OCE zerged NA servers hard when NA slept. Let OCE feel the pain always
sacred orchid
<:Hmmmge:765362110384439316> that'd probably be much better for EU than US
only way you can do it late time for EU
everything else is just cooked
sacred orchid
still
torpid hill
as EU i'm all for it tho
dawn dagger
1 server is bis if Intrepid would just finagle some timing for sieges and what not. Prayge I only have to have 1 server to have chars on next phase too
sacred orchid
also US poopers only work from 9 to 5 so they dont work much anyway 
glad abyss
from my understanding rn server is set to west coast prime time (even if im pretty sure steven said that it would be east)
glad abyss
so its an east coast server with west coast prime time?
shut fossil
Just let us set siege timers within a certain time frame like 7pm-11pm CEST and same for east coast timers 
glad abyss
Just let us set siege timers within a certain time frame like 7pm-11pm CEST and ...
woah chill out buddy that would require developing
tardy warren
i think it like this, multiple servers could potentially help when a big and impactful exploit arises
it would also keep the "end game" further away, progressing slower
different servers could end up shape differently
meaning more mixed data for them
but that could be ok if there are enough players for each server. which I think was the case for P1? was that a relative "small success" or servers died quite fast?
shut fossil
More servers is just bad the time investment to get anywhere and the speed at which servers die off will be even faster without a healthy pop
craggy breach
dynamic node times plz steven
glad abyss
but that could be ok if there are enough players for each server. which I think ...
eu server died in one month in p1, 2 months in p2
outer stratus
Eastern continent NA western Continent EU
torpid hill
Eastern continent NA western Continent EU
NA can swim in the water while EU plays
proven grail
single server is the only way
torpid hill
depends on the pop, if they absolutely hit it out of the park with the changes and maybe 1 or 2 bigger streamers start playing then 1 server definitely won't hold all
sacred orchid
It would 
midnight surge
The eu’s forget this is an American game that intrepid is allowing them to play
tardy warren
The eu’s forget this is an American game that intrepid is allowing them to play
I see what you did. you are just trying to start a drama 😄
minor basalt
that's the reason why the characters look trash
midnight surge
I see what you did. you are just trying to start a drama 😄
No, just a statement , that’s true
minor basalt
but it's not true
tardy warren
No, just a statement , that’s true
ah ok, yes you are right, you, me and everyone else should thank Steven for allowing us to play this game
sacred orchid
that's the reason why the characters look trash
Dwarfs looks great what u mean
midnight surge
I have
tardy warren
yes, I can see your Alpha Two role
midnight surge
Don’t take it personal , it’s not meant to be
tardy warren
why would I ? 😄
midnight surge
Idk why would you , what I said seemed to spark some form of tension
tardy warren
ah, nah. if i would take tension from every statement i would probably not be here anymore
minor basalt
maybe that's normal for US folks
tardy warren
you guys are too attached on that skin issue 😄
it does look great in terms of details
dawn dagger
depends on the pop, if they absolutely hit it out of the park with the changes a...
which big streamer do you think will play p3 that hasnt already tried Ashes before? multiple huge streamers in the MMO genre tried it and bounced really quickly. Even the 3rd ranked streamer on the entirety of Twitch wasn't able to get people to give a shit about Ashes. Dial back the streamers will save the population cope imo
Kaicenat Ashes stream p3 bois, that will get us a server that isnt dead in under a month
torpid hill
Pirate might play
torpid hill
we'll see
dawn dagger
pirate playing ashes would most likely have the opposite of the desired effect at this point of his career
noble elk
The only big streamer who has any chance of trying who hasn't already would be soda
torpid hill
and Quin69 probably
noble elk
But he's nowhere near as big as any of those ppl
dawn dagger
The only big streamer who has any chance of trying who hasn't already would be s...
soda tried and quit almost instantly because of questing being dog shit
noble elk
torpid hill
Quin almost played it with P2 but the servers were down on the day he wanted to so he decided to play another game
noble elk
Oh nvm then
dawn dagger
Quin would quit fairly quick too
noble elk
Quin has 5 brain cells he would rage quit in minutes
torpid hill
you can say that for any streamer 
until the game is fun enough to hold players there is no point
I was just saying that P3 will give us some well needed improvements that might get us closer
noble elk
Summit will probably come back for another try at some point
torpid hill
Quin has 5 brain cells he would rage quit in minutes
Quin actually believes in the project, whenever it's brought up and his chat starts shitting on it he is usually pretty positive about it
i'm not saying it'd be good for the game if big streamers tried it tho we still need it to cook some more
torpid hill
the game is just not good enough to be shown off to the public rn on that scale
dawn dagger
Summit and Shroud don't stick around in any MMO they play and really don't get many people to play whatever MMO they're trying
torpid hill
I don't stick around in MMORPGs either because they are not good they usually say the same thing
last MMOs i was into long-term was probably GW2 or Wildstar, nothing since lasted more than a few days
dawn dagger
out of current streamers/ex-streamers, the biggest one left playing is Dellor. Do with that info what you will
noble elk
Last one I played was 14 but RuneScape is my long term home
noble elk
Ya as long as you treat it like a single player game it's good.....actually RuneScape is similar in that
Single player games where you can sometimes interact with others if you have to
torpid hill
yeah RS is also kinda single player, but at least there is no main story
I also hate that you can play all jobs with 1 character in FF, that alone is a game breaker for me
torpid hill
I'd never play an MMORPG with that system personally
noble elk
Oh I love that part. Not needing to level alts was great
torpid hill
i don't like it for RP/Immersion reasons
it's definitely convenient
same reason why I don't like any account-wide progression
noble elk
You have the option though. If you'd rather all your classes be seperate toons you can do that too
torpid hill
nah, it breaks my immersion when I see a character playing as a warrior and then they switch to a completely different identity as a mage
it's not just myself, it's others
i want to think of people as specific roles
dawn dagger
only needing one character per account is actually the best thing ever
torpid hill
it's convenient
you are playing an account, not a character at that point
which is fine if you're into it
dawn dagger
I'm immune to the muh immersion arguments
torpid hill
i don't have to convince you with this, it's upto taste
i'm glad AoC won't have this, and I hope we won't have much account-wide progression either
dawn dagger
the way things are heading, won't see a fleshed-out, account-wide corruption system so people will have corruption alts they grief on and then pop on main like how do you do fellow pve gamers 🤣
torpid hill
okay corruption i'm fine with 
hope we get that account-wide
worth the tradeoff for me
dawn dagger
btw, it's wild how you're more rp with the immersion than the actual rp guilds
torpid hill
yeah i'm pretty sensitive about immersion
but I don't think it's a hot take to want 1 character to only be 1 class
this is the case in the majority of RPGs
noble elk
I remember when a guy named blight rolled up on me in p2
Was like hey maybe he won't kill me
Was wrong
nimble wind
Alts will be useful for crafting. Keep them in the area where the best mats/benches are. Also, if your so inclined, have battle ready alts in different locations for PVP for a quicker response.
stiff dust
Finally installed and giving it a go this week. What's the state of the server? Worth grinding it out solo at first or are there any Guilds that are well organized?
noble elk
Server is pretty well dead at the moment while people wait for the fresh phase in August. Best just to familiarize yourself with the game for a couple weeks before the reset.
wicked lava
Where are the Striders Vigilant since the EmberSprings moved ?
wild rune
midnight surge
vocal fiber
Someone made fun of my $8 wifi last time so...
Greetings from first class with complimentary Starlink
@candid mauve
candid mauve
Your holiday looks way more cash money than tmuggzy
midnight surge
This man does not have access to the Polar PJ
This one ?
willow barn
Nah TM got the Gulfstream G280 in the POLAR hangar
midnight surge
Role players
willow barn
I mean we all are playing a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game
midnight surge
Thats my line
vocal fiber
People that fly private dont go on cruises 
midnight surge
People that fly private dont go on cruises <:omegalul:1374320080556396574>
That’s true
midnight surge
I mean we all are playing a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game
Minus the massive part
willow barn
minus the game part (test btw)
vocal fiber
Bare minimum for upper middle class is flying JSX / charter
willow barn
Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Test*
midnight surge
willow barn
Multiplayer Online Role-afking test **
quick notch
viral carbon
dawn dagger
ptr in like 10 hours 
viral carbon
Curious on the 5.6 engine update, we need a performance pass/update, this is an unoffical one but i'll take it.
tardy warren
that 5.6 is not guaranteed for today. keep expectation low as they said this is a very high risk thing
shut fossil
Someone made fun of my $8 wifi last time so...
Greetings from first class with ...
SHANGRI-LA FRONTIER MENTIONED RAAAAH
lunar turtle
Bare minimum for upper middle class is flying JSX / charter
Upper middle class is charting a plane? Tell me more how u know nothing about money lol
shut fossil
You're shit
tardy warren
Steven said we'll have access to it by the weekend
nah, he said he's going into the weekend 😄
dawn dagger
all anime is shit
primal rain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_CbIGo4fSQ but ashes movement doesn’t have to be
sacred orchid
#pray4delay 
hushed sapphire
#pray4delay <:Prayge:1349120183540776991>
dawn dagger
hushed sapphire
https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/257293098915332096/1390118330681...
sacred orchid
dawn dagger
ptr in less than 3 hours? time to test all the new content they've been hiding on us
hushed sapphire
ptr in less than 3 hours? time to test all the new content they've been hiding o...
Don't worry, it's totally flushed out and tested internally. Nothing could possibly go wrong!
dawn dagger
Don't worry, it's totally flushed out and tested internally. Nothing could possi...
they have the game fully finished and are just teasing everyone to get extra hyped
hushed sapphire
they have the game fully finished and are just teasing everyone to get extra hyp...
I knew it all along!
crisp cloak
People that fly private dont go on cruises <:omegalul:1374320080556396574>
only boomers go on cruises
noble elk
Ya that's the best part
Don't have to deal with some sloppy drunk 20 year old throwing rocks through things and puking on people
midnight surge
Carnival is making their own island getaway theme park somewhere in the Caribbean
tight sail
How fitting
shut fossil
The jokes write themselves at this point
tight sail
Truly lol
untold canopy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_CbIGo4fSQ but ashes movement doesn’t have to b...
good takes
midnight surge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_CbIGo4fSQ but ashes movement doesn’t have to b...
Yea dope video !
willow barn
Actual bot NPC activity
guy please post on my video bros... please its sooo good brooo... pleaseee
midnight surge
guy please post on my video bros... please its sooo good brooo... pleaseee
Where’s your video at ?
I wanna see it
willow barn
why would I make a rp video
willow barn
yes we know momentum and movement is shit
doesnt require a 500 word verbal video essay
sacred orchid
who you talking to
btw EU megaserver propaganda died now its #pray4delay propaganda
midnight surge
https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235
midnight surge
doesnt require a 500 word verbal video essay
You don’t have a video do you, figures we didn’t need your opinion either but here we are , someone makes content , you don’t , you hate , you lose !
ornate cosmos
You don’t have a video do you, figures we didn’t need your opinion either but he...
The vast majority of content made about this game is just drama and/or whining. Not much to hate about. Saying you're a content creator for this game is on the same level as saying you sniff bicycle seats at the local Walmart. Sure you may find it amusing but most of the world finds it something else. But cool story I guess.
sacred orchid
@kind terrace u sniff bike seats? 
paper lichen
<@497847148268748812> u sniff bike seats? <:hmmm:1118503125419045016>
what happened this time?
sacred orchid
what happened this time?
What u mean
paper lichen
What u mean
sniffing bike seats... i feel like i should be smelling good leather or biker farts o.o
sacred orchid
What the guy wrote above
paper lichen
lowkey jelly
paper lichen
U can do it too <:weirdsip:1349104029044707348>
we can do that together?
it would be a nice bonding experience
paper lichen
damn
paper lichen
what's that movement though, i've been away for a while o.o
sacred orchid
I want p3 to delay for a little bit to launch give devs more time
As it seems they planned lots of stuff for p3 but we wont see that for a while
And frankly server will die out rather quick
Which is in no ones interest
paper lichen
after thoroughly reading the Pray4Delay movement. i would say the following:
i agree. as long as we get better stuffs
i'm also busy now. so not enough time to game. i need to have some freedom to play the whole time
sacred orchid
after thoroughly reading the Pray4Delay movement. i would say the following:
i ...
Thats the point kinda, launch with some of the features ready to test and not an empty space
paper lichen
Thats the point kinda, launch with some of the features ready to test and not an...
and a summoner
i feel like the late release of rogue was a bit of a bad idea
primal rain
no one is talking about being a content creator
i posted a video cause they made a change that sucks and i want the game to be good
people really be fighting about anything
astral frost
No
midnight surge
The vast majority of content made about this game is just drama and/or whining. ...
i was talking shit to the polar nobody cuz he was talking shit about making a video, but he does nothing but yap, no one said anything about being content creators
ornate cosmos
i was talking shit to the polar nobody cuz he was talking shit about making a vi...
K. Remember when you said this: You don’t have a video do you, figures we didn’t need your opinion either but here we are , someone makes content , you don’t , you hate , you lose ! Yeah. That was cool. Anyway.
midnight surge
K. Remember when you said this: You don’t have a video do you, figures we didn’t...
dont forget the part where i never mentioned content creators, its pure shit talk to someone who does nothing
ornate cosmos
dont forget the part where i never mentioned content creators, its pure shit tal...
Someone makes content… you said that. Anyway.
buoyant apex
i posted a video cause they made a change that sucks and i want the game to be g...
I liked your video. Was concise. Showed your talking points well and explained with visuals in an easy to understand manner.
midnight surge
Someone makes content… you said that. Anyway.
theres more context
its polar is nothing but degens and grifters
primal rain
I liked your video. Was concise. Showed your talking points well and explained...
took me a while cuz it was a bunch of ranting, wanted to make it legible, glad it was
might be different solutions for the water hops, not sure why they always make you faster even with these air brakes
midnight surge
Bro ? The amount of wtf in that comment , you guys live in here constantly talking nonsense
lilac cliff
HERE IT COMES
wild rune
@proper igloo you should probably delay p3 until you have
- summoner
- tier 4 nodes
- econ changes
Think not enough changes for p3 launch ready from what we have seen so far.
astral frost
Send nodes
frigid warren
Econ changes, yes, tier 4 nodes, meh, just finish the nodes we have, and summoner needs to come later to keep up player retention :V
astral frost
Second archetype will be in p3?
lilac cliff
2 years easily
astral frost
Nice, any project to limit test a server?
proven grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_CbIGo4fSQ but ashes movement doesn’t have to b...
sorry bud you have to remake the video
z-axis is horizontal
y-axis is what you mean
primal rain
proven grail
proven grail
sad but true
proven grail
frigid warren
Fun fact: different 3d programs have different xyz axis orientations.
And game engines, too.
sacred orchid
<@257237915963359233> you should probably delay p3 until you have
- summoner
-...
#pray4delay
Way ahead of ya
proven grail
delay it until the weekend please steven
otherwise the jobless fucks will get ahead of me
wicked lava
what about people who works only on week ends ? 😄
torpid hill
weekend releases suck for them probably at this stage
monday/tuesday is best for release, that gives them a full work week to fix the initial bugs
lean shuttle
Release on Christmas and go on vacation again electric boogaloo
wild rune
I’m just worried they drop a lackluster p3 with not many new features and we get a very lethargic start.
As a GM you are essentially a salesman for the game. Currently it’s hard to sell people on playing P3. There is no big hook or systems I can point to and say no p3 will be better than p2.5 because xyz.
sacred orchid
yea though thats not the reason why they should delay as it is an alpha but many other reasons
but i feel that, recruiting when yourself dont even wanna play p3
glad abyss
I ll see u all at varek
sacred orchid
how when im not playing
glad abyss
U Will play the phase and u Will enjoy It 
paper loom
I ll see u all at varek
cant wait to get in line for gravepeak and lose 20 hats again
sacred orchid
U Will play the phase and u Will enjoy It <:Madge:1146164267008131133>
i will be played when summoner is out tho
paper loom
see you in december
sacred orchid
never mention that place to me again
2 days
2 DAYS
without anything
then brother fucking moses comes in and it drops and swoops it
never got a hat afterwards
paper loom
gravepeak is nr 1 reason why eu alliance broke
glad abyss
100%
paper loom
losing heroic hat to some pve cleric clown that quit 2 days later hahahahahahaha
sudden flame
cant wait to get in line for gravepeak and lose 20 hats again
They gutted three moons yesterday in the gear changes 
Surely these don’t stay
sudden flame
Mages up. Everyone else down 
vital sun
from one BIS caster hat to the next. (RIP hornhexer)
sacred orchid
They gutted three moons yesterday in the gear changes <a:omegaRoll:9611281862158...
thank god
because fuck that place
sudden flame
The young men yearn for a field (or graveyard) to die in
sacred orchid
even worse when ur cleric and everyone stands in the fucking anti heal puddle
cant even dispel it
vital sun
even worse when ur cleric and everyone stands in the fucking anti heal puddle
cleric's fault
sacred orchid
#buffgoblinmask
sudden flame
Bro honestly. Just make crafting better and they can nuke every boss drop idgaf
sudden flame
If I never have to farm another named mob again outside a craft mat then I’m all for it. I got so many crafting mats for these items yet took a month to get my hat
sacred orchid
Bro honestly. Just make crafting better and they can nuke every boss drop idgaf
yea but they need time for that and thats why join the #pray4delay train
sudden flame
I’d support your delay
glad abyss
They gutted three moons yesterday in the gear changes <a:omegaRoll:9611281862158...
Have u tried go farm mitigation gear?
sudden flame
However I have, as the EU brothers say, Holiday planned 
glad abyss
Fr flanker the game needs u
sudden flame
Have u tried go farm mitigation gear?
Going to test all the named mobs today/thursday. didn’t see a bloodhoops drop
sacred orchid
Have u tried go farm mitigation gear?
that was atleast fun when it was lawless lol
paper loom
all i want for christmas is p3 delay and a megaserver🙏
glad abyss
Going to test all the named mobs today/thursday. didn’t see a bloodhoops drop
When u can pls send a SS if the Gear changed
sudden flame
all i want for christmas is p3 delay and a megaserver🙏
I agree to half of that statement
sudden flame
When u can pls send a SS if the Gear changed
sacred orchid
you dont want megaserver?!
sacred orchid
da hell
glad abyss
Oh true
sudden flame
I want mega server
paper loom
alpha 2 classic
glad abyss
alpha 2 classic
sacred orchid
traitor then
sudden flame
Ashes: Season of Discovery
sacred orchid
thats a banger ngl
glad abyss
Ashes: Season of Discovery
proven grail
As a GM you are essentially a salesman for the game. Currently it’s hard to sell...
have you tried offering them a content guild instead of mass recruiting and then zerging victories?
sudden flame
Give us Ironman/one life ashes if we delay p3
glad abyss
Hc ashes would kinda go hard ngl
vital sun
gonna have to play next phase with a straw like that one dude if they dont add new stuff to do
paper loom
Hc ashes would kinda go hard ngl
leveling parties will be 1 cleric 6 bards and a tank
sacred orchid
hc ashes where you die to dc or a dude from steelbloom literally chases you til the end of earth
sudden flame
Fire starters nuking entire generations
sacred orchid
or even better now if you blitz as fighter or blink as mage and ur getting launched into the sky
dies from falldmg
paper loom
training mobs would be an actual war crime
sudden flame
Holy I forgot about fall damage deaths
sudden flame
dies from falldmg
Sending someone flying with uppies and it wears off mid air
sacred orchid
Now we cant even cc White players
amirite
minor basalt
just kill em
glad abyss
I love going corrupt to contest a weeping Willow
noble elk
Also sleeping someone and chopping while they stand there immobilized isn't contesting it's just taking
sacred orchid
how is it not contesting
every class has a cc break
you can sleep the other guy and then start chopping
now if the guy also cc breaks you are on equal footing (as in cc breaks down for both)
now you can fight for it
aka contesting
noble elk
That's fair but most of the gather only noobs don't spec cc breaks usually if it's not baseline and most of the folks who do will flag up and fight you back instead of standing there dying
I don't like either option honestly
sacred orchid
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
kind terrace
now i need flanker to make a vid
About what?
noble elk
There must be a better way
sacred orchid
#pray4delay movement
in what universe do you not spec, wings, blink, roar, shadowstep, disengage
if you dont then thats on you
noble elk
If the only 2 ways of doing it are what we have now and what we had before I would say revert the change but there has to be another option
sacred orchid
has to be but there isnt
and tbh i was statisfied with what we had
you foght for it
"fight for limited resources"
noble elk
Ya that's why I say it's the better of the 2 options but it's still not ideal
midnight surge
I don’t think they should delay, let them stick to the timelines they currently have in place
noble elk
Maybe if they increase cooldowns on some of these cc to prevent people from just standing there spamming it and griefing people trying to gather
midnight surge
They need more cc and utility abilities
sacred orchid
Maybe if they increase cooldowns on some of these cc to prevent people from just...
yup like giving rouges 2 sleeping dart is just stupid
kind terrace
Maybe if they increase cooldowns on some of these cc to prevent people from just...
So they are supposed to change cooldowns of CC's, something that significantly affects PvP and also PvE just to somewhat reduce the chance of someone not gathering a resource node?
Like
What am I even reading
sacred orchid
even if that was planned but not being able to cc whities is just fighting the symptoms
midnight surge
Cc what ?
sacred orchid
So they are supposed to change cooldowns of CC's, something that significantly a...
you looking at it if it would be currently balanced out well which is not
or good desgined
which is also not the case
kind terrace
you looking at it if it would be currently balanced out well which is not
It's irrelevant
Even assuming that it might be a potentially viable reason to change CC cooldowns is... insanity
sacred orchid
not rly
kind terrace
Balancing them from PvP/PvE perspective - that's a valid reason
sacred orchid
rogues being able to sleep people for 8-12 seconds twice is silly
kind terrace
rogues being able to sleep people for 8-12 seconds twice is silly
I'm not talking about rogue
sacred orchid
which is biggest way you can "grief" people with
kind terrace
Rogues def need balancing and not because of gathering
kind terrace
Yes, it does
noble elk
So they are supposed to change cooldowns of CC's, something that significantly a...
Cooldowns are low regardless. I've never played a game where strong CC have such low cooldowns.
kind terrace
Cooldowns are low regardless. I've never played a game where strong CC have suc...
Low cooldowns?
kind terrace
Well, I played a game where you could sleep someone for 45 seconds with like 2 second cd (% based)
Silence for up to a minute (% based)
Or limit someone's HP/MP to 30% for 5 minutes
I don't use that as an argument
noble elk
Ya lots of other games would have stuff like vines or marionette/sleep on a 45-60 sec cd
sacred orchid
Well, I played a game where you could sleep someone for 45 seconds with like 2 s...
just because it exist doesnt mean its good lmao
i biggest grain is sleeping darts and marionette though marionette is a cast but nothing you cant do muich against it if you dont have 27 backflips then vine field cd
kind terrace
just because it exist doesnt mean its good lmao
In that game it was perfectly fine
And as I said, I didn't use it as an argument, just mentioned to highlight that different games have different approaches when it comes to CCs
sacred orchid
sure, tldr doesnt matter
kind terrace
I'd rather have chance-based CC's/debuffs, depending on your offensive and target's defensive stats
It's weid that level 8 ranger, for example, could root a bunch of lvl 25s with 100% chance
With min/max chance like min chance 10% / max chance 90%
And obviously reduced CDs as a result of that
sacred orchid
id argue its even good so lvl 8 people can at least try to fight against someone higher lvl
just when we did the lvl 8 gank squad on the p2 NA server when testing routes
they have a massive disadvantage by gear and stats but they at least have the ability to do so
kind terrace
just when we did the lvl 8 gank squad on the p2 NA server when testing routes
That was just a poor guy who got scared, not even 25
If he had hands attached to his body in the right places and wasn't scared, he'd kill us all easily
sacred orchid
sure but we had the ability to do so
kind terrace
I don't think a situation with 1% chance of happening is what should be primarily taken into account
kind terrace
you miss 100% of the shots you dont take
I scratched my leg about 7 minutes ago
sacred orchid
i can tell you how when i was farming growler helmet in HH i looted body corpses in the meantime til it respawned
til a lvl 18 and lvl 14 both attacked me and they managed to get me somewhat low
while they had the handicap they had at least the chance of trying
which i think is good
kind terrace
I don't think a situation with 1% chance of happening is what should be primaril...
^
sacred orchid
whats the argument against it
kind terrace
"It happened once in hundreds of hours, so let's definitely take it as a foundation of CC design"
Sure man, makes perfect sense
kind terrace
What shouldn't be allowed?
sacred orchid
I'd rather have chance-based CC's/debuffs, depending on your offensive and targe...
that
why shouldt a lvl 8 be able to root 25
frank oriole
There should be both chance CC and guaranteed CC
kind terrace
Never said he shouldn't be able to do that
Read what I said
frank oriole
Some skills (particularly big AOEs) make more sense being chance based
sacred orchid
you said it shouldt be able to be 100% therefore should be restricted
you are going for semantics
you can make the argument to make cc go with accuracy sure
kind terrace
you said it shouldt be able to be 100% therefore should be restricted
Read what I said again and then again, until you finally comperehend
sacred orchid
i do understand it
kind terrace
Alright, so?
sacred orchid
you do udnerstand that a lvl 8 does not have the means to get these stats
so why shouldt be they able to be to
kind terrace
He will have some stat value of the stat that is responsible for that chance
Which will convert in whatever chance it will be
15-20-30% or whatever it is according to the formula and target's resist
sacred orchid
Some skills (particularly big AOEs) make more sense being chance based
i dont agree that invites rng which means while you made a good play with a good root or whatever you can oh just missed unlucky
frank oriole
i dont agree that invites rng which means while you made a good play with a good...
Single target stuff should be guaranteed, especially skill shots.
kind terrace
Crit chance is also rng, yet that is somehow not a problem
Same as accuracy/evasion
frank oriole
But large AOEs should be chance based
and chance per player hit not just a "oh the skill missed"
sacred orchid
crit chance has not the same value as cc and furthermure it goes against the enemy stats yes
kind terrace
Pfff
frank oriole
Crit chance is also rng, yet that is somehow not a problem
Same as accuracy/evas...
this argument is stupid.
sacred orchid
i rather have not build in rng for no reason
frank oriole
Crit serves a completely different purpose to CC
kind terrace
this argument is stupid.
It's a fact though
sacred orchid
if i manage to get a 5 man root because i landed it and the enemy had poor positioning then i should get the 5 man root
kind terrace
Crit serves a completely different purpose to CC
And? It still has rng
frank oriole
I'm saying RNG is ok in some elements?
sacred orchid
frank oriole
Just saying comparing crit and cc is stupid.
kind terrace
Just saying comparing crit and cc is stupid.
That conclusion is based on what exactly? "Because I feel like it"?
sacred orchid
go to sleep man
frank oriole
That conclusion is based on what exactly? "Because I feel like it"?
BECAUSE CROWD CONTROL IS MUCH MORE PIVOTAL THAN CRIT LMFAO. It's like you're conveniently forgetting that different effects have different weight and need different balancing just because it supports your argument.
At least Daven is making smart arguments, even if I disagree with the ethos.
you're just being disingenous lol.
kind terrace
BECAUSE CROWD CONTROL IS MUCH MORE PIVOTAL THAN CRIT LMFAO. It's like you're con...
Both are situational, like hello?
Sometimes one crit can decide the outcomes of the fight
Someone one CC
What are you talking about?
sacred orchid
I don't think a situation with 1% chance of happening is what should be primaril...
^
kind terrace
If you think that crits decide the outcome in 1% of the fights - you are delusional, sorry
kind terrace
I don't care how big this echo chamber gets, the logic you use makes little no sense
frank oriole
If you get a CC it enables a DPS rotation to land. If you land one crit without any CC/Silence or other effects it does nothing because it can be out healed or the player can escape.
sacred orchid
to you maybe because you cant comprehend it
frank oriole
Crit is a vital stat that increases your overall DPS, it's good to spec into and is often the best stat for DPS classes. But in a 1v1 fight it's the crits that add up over time to kill someone. A single crit is not as pivotal as a CC that allows you to land 3 crits.
kind terrace
to you maybe because you cant comprehend it
Yeah sorry, logic of 5 year old is sometimes difficult to understand
kind terrace
Crit is a vital stat that increases your overall DPS, it's good to spec into and...
A CC allows you to land 3 crits, okay, I see now who I am talking to
sacred orchid
i wouldt say you are 5 year old in the head
kind terrace
Crit is a vital stat that increases your overall DPS, it's good to spec into and...
Remind me, how much PvP did you do in Ashes?
frank oriole
you're being ridiculous lmao. Super disingenous argument.
sacred orchid
its not that long
frank oriole
you're backed into a corner and just disregarding logic lmao.
kind terrace
I need a TLDR
PvE bobs are crying that CC's are bad cuz they could stop them from chopping trees
Initially
sacred orchid
oh shut up you soy fuck
kind terrace
you're backed into a corner and just disregarding logic lmao.
Debate me 1v1 live on this topic, we'll see how it goes
sacred orchid
just because you are wrong as usual
frank oriole
I need a TLDR
we were discussing CC. and this dude is arguing that because % based crit is a thing, then % based CC is fine.
shut fossil
% Based cc is dumb af especially in a game with limited cd tied CC breaks
kind terrace
we were discussing CC. and this dude is arguing that because % based crit is a t...
Strawman fallacy, that's not the accurate representation of my words
frank oriole
we were discussing CC. and this dude is arguing that because % based crit is a t...
Which is obviously just like comparing magic to metal.
sacred orchid
Remind me, how much PvP did you do in Ashes?
remind me how much pvp did you do
kind terrace
remind me how much pvp did you do
More than you
frank oriole
Crit chance is also rng, yet that is somehow not a problem
Same as accuracy/evas...
LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID HERE
frank oriole
It's almost an exact quote hahahah
shut fossil
More than any of you 
sacred orchid
you bob
shut fossil
I regret all of it
sacred orchid
go with izzy chopping trees
shut fossil
Except the tourney that was cool
kind terrace
LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID HERE
I pointed out that according to his logic, having RNG in one case was okay, but in another case it wasn't
sacred orchid
its not the same thing you monkey
kind terrace
You're fun person to talk to, come talk to me 1v1
frank oriole
I pointed out that according to his logic, having RNG in one case was okay, but ...
yes, which is disingenous and was my whole problem with your argument
because RNG in one aspect IS FINE and another is game changing
and I agree that % CC is ok as well
I agree with that./
shut fossil
It's not at all
frank oriole
and that's what me and daven were discussing
shut fossil
Any RNG form of CC is horrible
If this was action with a resource based cc break then sure
But not in this
kind terrace
It's not at all
With current CDs and CC break mechanics - 100% not ok
Obviously shifting to chance-based CC's implies other changes to them
sacred orchid
It's not at all
frank oriole
With current CDs and CC break mechanics - 100% not ok
Obviously shifting to chan...
This I agree with
sacred orchid
then flanker comes in being a silly knobhead
shut fossil
i dont agree that invites rng which means while you made a good play with a good...
Fact check by real American patriots
frank oriole
I think %based CC has been good in other games
sacred orchid
such?
frank oriole
But the game needs to be balanced to accomodate
shut fossil
It's still a dumb af design no matter which wat you cut it
kind terrace
Alright, we're getting somewhat constructive now
sacred orchid
thats the reason for me i still think pvp in wow is not good
kind terrace
But the game needs to be balanced to accomodate
Obviously, nobody argues with that
frank oriole
GW2
sacred orchid
in classic that is
shut fossil
Only way its viable and not broken as a mechanic is if your CC breakers become a resource
frank oriole
another good example
frank oriole
both good games with good PvP and still fairly active communities
shut fossil
Any rng based CC is bad
sacred orchid
stay mad im always right and #pray4delay
quaint fractal
This game needs heartbeat cc break. Sitting 10 second ccs Everytime is lame 🙂
kind terrace
Chance-based or 100% - doesn't really matter if:
a) It's not a number of random chaotic decisions, but there is a well-thought design concept behind it
b) It's properly balanced
kind terrace
@shut fossil which class did you play before rogue?
sacred orchid
This game needs heartbeat cc break. Sitting 10 second ccs Everytime is lame 🙂
i rather have just good desgined cc's
frank oriole
Any rng based CC is bad
I think it's fine to have that opinion tbh. There is nothing wrong with guaranteed CCs if there are decent cleanses/breaks. But I just hold a different stance.
shut fossil
<@415470631006502913> which class did you play before rogue?
Mage 
Absolutely hated it
sacred orchid
not even fighter
shut fossil
I despise caster classes
sacred orchid
shut fossil
I played mage since p1 because I knew that shit was gonna be great to grind with
Ez money maker
shut fossil
Nah
sacred orchid
easiest solo farm with gatling gun arrowstorm
shut fossil
Well we needed the cc chains to stop em spitting 
And they died before the ccs were over
sacred orchid
if i needed glint i just went tropics gatlin gun the shamans and got hella glint
though they changed it now
well ranger as well so cant do that either
shut fossil
I think with peak gear towards the end we were doing 9G-12g in raw glint an hour
sacred orchid
too much work
glad abyss
i think there are some layers to it, but cc especially shouldnt be a thing
lilac cliff
dodging an attack with a roll and still getting cc'd even though the attack itself missed is actually the most tilting part of this game
hexed needle
I think with peak gear towards the end we were doing 9G-12g in raw glint an hour
The Seph spot oneup and I duo'd, down by the water, was 15g per hour. Still never found a better spot
midnight surge
You can do solo halls at level 21 and still get xp and rewards, and literally pull the entire first floor and all the rooms of goblins , and it’s a massive fuck ton of glint
shut fossil
Yea but is it 15g an hour
exotic dagger
Jesus 15g per hour I think I was getting like 12g doing solo lawless Jundark you just killing the grems? Or looping the bat things/wolves/etc
shut kraken
What time will server open up tomorrow ?
tardy warren
shut fossil
AGAIN
glad abyss
candid mauve
dodging an attack with a roll and still getting cc'd even though the attack itse...
If I couldn't roll catch with knockout or trip my class would be unplayable
Universal roll being bonkers OP only works when the game is basically all melee
primal rain
If I couldn't roll catch with knockout or trip my class would be unplayable
Un...
u can trip a roll?
i know u can knockout a roll but trip it?
i thought all damage CC is dodgeable?
candid mauve
Because of stagger with disable evasion debuff I can trip roll most of the time if the person has no evasion gear or buffs
Also could just be OCE jank tho
This shit changes all the time in the last month I've had the worst desync and inconsistent issues since p1 so I honestly have no idea what's even suppose to happen anymore
prime panther
Also could just be OCE jank tho
Usually it’s just servers being fucked
not the evasion stuff
midnight surge
glad abyss
Remove dodge, remove stamina system, make movement tied to class kit, keep momentum
shut fossil
Remove dodge, remove stamina system, make movement tied to class kit, keep momen...
if they remove dodge im knee capping you ado
glad abyss
Of course a rogue says that
dusty pecan
torpid hill
archetype specific dodge governed by CDs and charges >>>>> universal dodge and stamina system
same for sprint, and maybe for block, but idk how to do that well without stamina
lament eagle
I can't wait for 2098 when they finally expand the dodge/stamina system
torpid hill
I don't want it expanded, I want it gone 
the entire concept of the universal talent tree is just bad IMO
they should be real with us and rename it to "archetype homogenization tree"
calm drum
torpid hill
sacred orchid
#pray4delay bois jump on the train choo choo
proven cedar
Needs a delay but it ain't happening
torpid hill
delay didn't happen when the game needed it way more, I don't see it happening now
sacred orchid
Needs a delay but it ain't happening
And thats why we preach for it, join the movement
night bluff
sacred orchid
But we dont, no one wants to ball 
hallow bridge
delay didn't happen when the game needed it way more, I don't see it happening n...
When was that
P3 has already been delayed
torpid hill
both before P1 and before P2, the game was in a much more instable state than it is now, and i'm not talking about how many features/how much content we had
I think P2 launched during christmas or something so they didn't even have 95% of the team in the office while the game was full of major bugs
rocky abyss
@tacit viper whats the chances of p3 been delayed again?
hallow bridge
I think P2 launched during christmas or something so they didn't even have 95% o...
Yeah the launch of p2 straight into a 2 week vacation was bad
Shouldn't be an issue this time around
torpid hill
i'm not saying P3 won't be delayed though, but I don't think that's something we have any input in.
they have way more variables to consider on the inside
pre-P1 the "movement' was bigger too
hallow bridge
I don't think p3 should be delayed, just delay playing the game if you want to wait for certain features
sacred orchid
i'm not saying P3 won't be delayed though, but I don't think that's something we...
Despite some saying that yea i'd love to "give" them the option to if they feel the need to
hallow bridge
Vassalization, Anvils, and Economy changes should make it in before Aug 4th
sacred orchid
Economy is a big part yea
Personally i dont think it will be ready by august but i wouldt mind being wrong
torpid hill
Despite some saying that yea i'd love to "give" them the option to if they feel ...
there is a difference between giving them the option and demanding it
ofc, they should be allowed to delay whenever they want
hallow bridge
I mean, Anvils is there its just blocked off, Economy changes are in PTR if you've looked around, and Vassalization is in PTR
sacred orchid
Yea exactly but some person seem iron about it and try to alter what ive said
hallow bridge
They just need to be refined
tacit viper
<@136302683807154176> whats the chances of p3 been delayed again?
It's never a 0% chance
That being said, we're full speed ahead. There's no reason to believe that we'll move the date for the start of Phase III
If that changes, we'll be very loud about it
torpid hill
Yea exactly but some person seem iron about it and try to alter what ive said
ngl i got that impression too because i've seen you "spam" chats about it
makes it seem like you're demanding a delay rather than giving them the thumbs up if they want to
sacred orchid
Yea thats my propaganda though i would say spam there was reasonable time delay 
Well my title quite say please delay and not do delay
And the content inside it
Was just an ask because i personally believe its not ready and in the end if everything is gucci then nice if not also ok but dont feel rushed
safe fractal
It's never a 0% chance
That being said, we're full speed ahead. There's no reas...
Wake me up when it happens. Not “if,” but “when” 😄
errant slate
WHY DID MY UI RESET
errant slate
ALL SETTINGS TOO
sacred orchid
Everything, every setting
Now you can get rid of action camera
patent junco
Now you can get rid of action camera <:kekw:822066982295306290>
Get rid of game
noble elk
sour star
how to reset my "flying" char?
noble elk
Use the unstuck option
Also you may want to change your display name.....it's a long story just trust me
midnight surge
Also you may want to change your display name.....it's a long story just trust m...
They change thier names all the time , inside and outside of the game cuz sus
noble elk
This guy's had access for 3 years so benefit of the doubt
sacred orchid
That is someone from EU just because you have a freak from NA with the same name doesnt mean he should change it
midnight surge
Na yall can go back to the lame euro server and spam slurs at each other while the cool kids compete on the best server the NA server cuz America is Number 1
sacred orchid
Can you stop accusing me of using slurs, this is really weird behaviour 
glad abyss
what a freak
sacred orchid
idk if i should contact a mod at this point
glad abyss
def sounds like harassment
noble elk
@mods we need to be allowed to port over a role from another discord real quick
Just for a couple hours or so
midnight surge
Can you stop accusing me of using slurs, this is really weird behaviour <:monkaW...
Do you need a friend , no one tagged you boo-boo
midnight surge
@mods we need to be allowed to port over a role from another discord real quick
Yea which one
sacred orchid
twice today you freak and that were not the only times
midnight surge
The cesspool one made by racists ?
midnight surge
twice today you freak and that were not the only times
Do you represent all of euro ?
sacred orchid
quite under what i said and what i ss was right when i told you were wrong as "one of the first people"
midnight surge
Yall
sacred orchid
i understand what you are an odd person but that is just freak behaviour ngl
glad abyss
Cant imagine not having that guy blocked
bruh isnt he in ur guild
errant slate
Not that im aware of
midnight surge
I’m aura sure
errant slate
Never seen him in game
midnight surge
What’s that have to do with anything
heady pawn
Na yall can go back to the lame euro server and spam slurs at each other while t...
It's not daven who uses slurs all the time, that's me
glad abyss
idk i think i saw him with the aura tag once i guess he was just rping
errant slate
Idk
glad abyss
even more of a freak then
sacred orchid
Cant imagine not having that guy blocked
im gonna be honest i prob will, usually i do that only when people spam ping me
also isnt he in your guild lol
midnight surge
These people are toxic to the community genre and game
sacred orchid
nvm just read
glad abyss
why we are so wholesome 
heady pawn
did jahlon ever apologize?
midnight surge
I’m sorry guys for standing on morality against cheaters , racists , degens and , horrible people
I apologize to everyone
I hope we can be friends now
At the end of the day, I’m actually a solid person and gamer, if you were in danger I’d save you if you needed help I’d help you, if you needed to confide I’d listen, but if you want to argue and talk shit , I’m down let’s go
heady pawn
yo what's going on, did I miss something? 
midnight surge
Nothing , it’s all make believe video game drama
heady pawn
sacred orchid
yo what's going on, did I miss something? <:Sus:1001868354715389992>
dude is a certified freak 
noble elk
primal rain
why
do people not like tank?
tank bangs
other than chains being dogshit
someone has got to teach me how to chain
sacred orchid
tank is good but dog to play tldr
chain, you have to pretty much pray
there was some tech but it got changed not so long ago
primal rain
but its just chain and the charge knockback that are fucked
wall bangs
8000 trips bangs
the defensives bang
glad abyss
people like to complain about their class
glad abyss
just look at all the fighters acting like fighter isnt insanely broken
primal rain
fighter isn't broken
but it's good
it would be really strong if the bugs were fixed
if bard did not have shaken fighter would also be a lot stronger
weird that bard gets shaken
noble elk
The shield flag thing also doesn't work many times..... Usually on uneven terrain much like chain
noble elk
It will just sink into the ground give no shield and go on cooldown
primal rain
ya would be frustrating if it failed for sure
noble elk
Also had reflect fuck up quite a bit in p2 but I'm told that one is more of a skill issue
noble elk
Ya overall it's good
They just need to fix some of the abilities but same can be said for all classes
primal rain
i mean
it's just 5head
if you have 2 tanks on an 8 man team
it's insane
havoc was cooking
THE CORNER WALL BRO
noble elk
I'm switching back to it for p3
primal rain
ya
i'll roll a bard alt
and gear so i have stuff for summoner
but imma main tank
noble elk
I did not enjoy bard but I also didn't give it much of a chance
primal rain
bard is very strong but the energy change killed it for me
i loved the flourish spam
it was why i played it
junior arch
Leveling a bard a bit felt really really good pre changes
noble elk
junior arch
havent tried post changes but solo leveling was solid and finding a group was easy
junior arch
Everyone was saying cleric was best solo class but after playing bard it was like O.O this was a thing?!
primal rain
nimble should be tuned down a little or given an ICD, gambit should be given an ICD probably
i dont like the energy change tho
but it was a bugfix
we'll see if they change it in the class reworks
if this phase is staying up for a year i might just level every class
junior arch
ill probably do the same for p3
maybe multiple clerics since i have to help people level x.x
sacred orchid
this class is nuts
yea just annoying that chain doesnt work, flag apperently also bugged (dunno if fixed like it applies to everyone and shit) and annoying grit system which u had to stack twice and keep refreshing every 10 sec which is now 20
still annoying tho
havent played tank really myself though so cant fully say
midnight surge
Tank is fun, it feels good like a decent mmo tank class
primal rain
yea just annoying that chain doesnt work, flag apperently also bugged (dunno if ...
grit is not very fun agreed
courage is meh
midnight surge
Yea I don’t like rogue poisons
hallow bridge
If grapple damage hits you, it should pull you
There's a 0.5s delay between damage registering and it pulling which causes the bulk of the issues. They get out of range or dodge roll in that window its not going to pull em
noble elk
I think it's all force move abilities that are messed up because I noticed trying to Boop stuff around with get off the stage has a similar issue
If there is any kind of terrain collision at all it just doesn't work
toxic wing
Finally getting the hang of this CC.
acoustic copper
The way chain calculates is odd but once you figure it out you can hit chain nearly all the time 😎