no lawless bs, yet houuuuurs of pvp
#alpha-two-shol-us
rustic jacinth
Archeage thou again 1 person could kill a farmcart in 3 minutes or less
Where here 1 person can't kill a caravan and a group of people can take 10 minutes to destroy them
Archeage traderuns also had Alot more value to them and summoning your farm cart was instant so when you did pirate you load up and gtfo.
Archeage trade run would be equal to 16 gold in ashes. So it was worth stealing 16 gold a pack
And larders were worth 34 gold a pack which is 34 gold in ashes
Aa also had way more diverse terrain and more routes making harder to spot you.
Ashes just feels like flat ground everywhere and alot of open areas
full harbor
wars and ganking - both designed in a way where social pressure and system mechanics push peopel towards just fighting each other
midnight surge
Archeage thou again 1 person could kill a farmcart in 3 minutes or less
Where ...
Why we need gliders now not later
rough star
yea and in l2 entire servers were controlled by 1-2 clans, and noone beign able to farm best content.
nowadays u need casuals to maintain population since u need to build cities, and pvpers are not best builders xd
buoyant apex
Why we need gliders now not later
Agreed also not a fan of them being mounts. Having the option to glide at all times was fun
full harbor
yea and in l2 entire servers were controlled by 1-2 clans, and noone beign able ...
and the solution to that is TO CREATE A ZONE FOR THOSE GUILDS TO GENOCIDE EVERYONE? š¤£
with the best rewards in the game?
rough star
yes its controlled and optional pvp
buoyant apex
No squirrel glider though
midnight surge
Also unreal 5 ^ lol
junior arch
Sounds like most of you should just go play aa2 and let intrepid cook
buoyant apex
https://tenor.com/view/you-died-gif-1649482539159147415
If you didn't have it that was basically aa
midnight surge
https://tenor.com/view/you-died-gif-1649482539159147415
I used to breed and sale sugar gliders in the mid 90ās
sacred orchid
Thats just speculation and pretty short sighted tbh as for the zerging maybe potentially yea but bases on what we had in jundrak it was usually fine we never had zergs fight there and as EU player even less because we do care about balanced fights over zerging someone
rustic jacinth
Why we need gliders now not later
This game isn't ready for gliders 80 percent of the ground is flat
midnight surge
This game isn't ready for gliders 80 percent of the ground is flat
Itās perfectly ready , thereās elevation changes everywhere
rustic jacinth
Itās perfectly ready , thereās elevation changes everywhere
Need alot more elevation changes and more objects in the world.
midnight surge
Need alot more elevation changes and more objects in the world.
Why ?
buoyant apex
If they are going to make maps more vertical every class needs some kind of vertical mobility tool like roges have.
Doesn't have to be as good but we should all be able to gain some kind of height in some way.
midnight surge
If they are going to make maps more vertical every class needs some kind of vert...
Mounts that can climb or parkour
sacred orchid
Archeage thou again 1 person could kill a farmcart in 3 minutes or less
Where ...
I dont understand why they copy tradepacks which (i do think is a good thing) but leave out the most important part where you actually can kill them lol
Its mindblowing
hallow bridge
Wait, they didn't mention changing the skill trees on the classes at all that stream did they
midnight surge
BDO is free right now on the official website
hallow bridge
I guess that dropped off the update docket
manic crystal
Wait, they didn't mention changing the skill trees on the classes at all that st...
dont think so
rustic jacinth
Needs alot more diverse terrain for caravans so you don't see them 1k mile away. And objects to help hide caravans a bit more
Making scouting on gliders be more relevant.
Most zones in the game right now due to elevation changes are like base auroria at best
midnight surge
Needs alot more diverse terrain for caravans so you don't see them 1k mile away....
No no you want AA clone
junior arch
BDO is free right now on the official website
Theyāll just complain about how bad bdo open world PvP is
buoyant apex
Mounts that can climb or parkour
Thylacolio from ark?
midnight surge
Theyāll just complain about how bad bdo open world PvP is
Is it that bad ?
junior arch
These people glazing gliders need to just hop to aa2
midnight surge
Tho
sacred orchid
You can already climb more or less janky which is kinda fun
junior arch
Is it that bad ?
They killed open world PvP from what my girl told me
full harbor
Thats just speculation and pretty short sighted tbh as for the zerging maybe pot...
yeah, I 100% going to EU server on P3, cause EU players are used to the proper L2-like gameplay, so maybe at least the social structure will keep the game from becoming shit
midnight surge
They killed open world PvP from what my girl told me
Thereās still plenty, remember itās also on consoles
rustic jacinth
No no you want AA clone
Lmao. Aa terrain was designed with pirating and farmcarts in mind.
Here not so much although some of the zones have gotten better with it
sacred orchid
Maybe, but everyone should go EU tbh only good region 
buoyant apex
They killed open world PvP from what my girl told me
Considering aa had gliders from the start how could they kill pvp?
Some of the busted ass p2w ones did but that's just p2w bullshit.
hallow bridge
!remindme in 2 months is EU server dead
junior arch
Thereās still plenty, remember itās also on consoles
All the PvP is in arena and gvg though not open world
junior arch
Considering aa had gliders from the start how could they kill pvp?
Some of the ...
Talking about bdo
š¤¦āāļø
rustic jacinth
Considering aa had gliders from the start how could they kill pvp?
Some of the ...
You hit someone with a glider they fall and take fall damage.
Ashes doesn't have fall damage tbh
Like it exists but doesn't do anything
buoyant apex
You hit someone with a glider they fall and take fall damage.
Ashes doesn't ha...
Known issue just not a high prio fix.
midnight surge
Lmao. Aa terrain was designed with pirating and farmcarts in mind.
Here not so...
I mean you want to promote the vision right , and find balance , you should advocate for trees but not more mountains , add wind gusts to climb and keep gliding
rustic jacinth
Known issue just not a high prio fix.
Yea which is another reason ashes isn't ready yet for gliders
rustic jacinth
I mean you want to promote the vision right , and find balance , you should advo...
That's legitmently my entire point
sacred orchid
You hit someone with a glider they fall and take fall damage.
Ashes doesn't ha...
It does its very crucial when fresh server launches and you jump off a cliff to save time on horse quest as its deadly since its flat dmg and not % 
midnight surge
Yea which is another reason ashes isn't ready yet for gliders
More tree ?
Ok itās still ready for gliders
Zip lines and roller skates
sacred orchid
People do fuck that up more than you'd think
junior arch
Go play then
rustic jacinth
Needs more trees houses, objects that fill the world making more diverse terrain which will help make caravan runs a smoother system. Because you won't see it across the map.
Then caravans TTK need to be nerfed because it shouldn't take 10 people to kill 1 caravan in 10 minutes to then get scraps that's so bad it ain't worth running.
midnight surge
Need Gw2
junior arch
Couldnāt get into gw2 unfortunately
manic crystal
gw2 pve is unrewarding with any sort of pvp being touched by a small pop
fashion there is great tho.
midnight surge
I like them all , specially in a world where the mmorpg genre is slim pickins
midnight surge
What gw2 ?
manic crystal
yep
midnight surge
Itās literally almost all pve now
You got multiple crazy hard raids , trials , dungeons , world events and bosses , jumping puzzles glider races, holiday events and quests
manic crystal
raids are dead, fractals gets 1 added per year which alot of ppl dont touch due "elitism", the new strikes are too hard and unrewarding based on the amount of time put in and etc.
the seasonal events are the same and usually get 1 to 5 extra skins after commiting over 25h into it.
i know my game...
midnight surge
So howās it dead
midnight surge
raids are dead, fractals gets 1 added per year which alot of ppl dont touch due ...
This
manic crystal
yea instance content is dead, open world events and festivals is where it thrives.
ppl love the festival of four winds and the pixel one and halloween jumping puzzles
is where the pop peaks
midnight surge
Grinding mastery levels yea
manic crystal
pve content itself it is dead. ( raids, dungeons n alikes )
midnight surge
People farming skyscale
Idk I always ran the content when I played
But I have people to play with so that helps
midnight surge
Iām subbed to swtor
manic crystal
anyway
midnight surge
Imma do flashpoints and shit later
manic crystal
this crate system looks like is gonnabe a issue
sacred orchid
It 100% will be and its such a big and simple oversight
junior arch
Intrepid makes system > puts system in game > tweak system
Can yāall not freak out over the development process of an alpha
manic crystal
i mean me saying is gonna be an issue is not freaking out.
a freak out would be making a thread and saying "this is gonna kill the game"
sacred orchid
"Its not a game its a test bois"
manic crystal
the fact the crate system has no flag from what i understood, you kill the carrier you go corrupt.
sacred orchid
Yes and corrupt is not viable
manic crystal
ok steven chill
sacred orchid
I told him but hes iron about it
manic crystal
either promote two things i think...
- no one touches the crate carrier and he gets full reward
- he gets zerged on and someone go corrupt individually while the rest carry or get the loot from the crate
just ssit and see am chilling
sacred orchid
I mean its nice i guess that there is an option for solo players to make gold but chinafarmer 
manic crystal
am having ahard time seeing a solo player making gold from it
proper vortex
What is with the rain in this game every time I log in its raining, lol Whomever was the developer for the rain, dude we get it, it works, can we turn it off once in a while .
dawn dagger
typical English thoughts
hallow bridge
im curious, where did they say youād get a ton of gold from transporting crates
They just said it would earn gold not that it would hands down be the best gold generator in the game right
errant slate
absolutely shouldnt be the best gold generator but its going to be the one spammed by bots and gold sellers because of no risk. Will ruin the economy and make their lives easier
it also just removes pvp content
Maybe systems like this are important for people who dont want to opt in to pvp but i just hope they make caravan/caravel runs worth the risk to some
vital sun
hallow bridge
absolutely shouldnt be the best gold generator but its going to be the one spamm...
bots can already kill mobs and vendor glint without people pvping them
or cut down trees and vendor
errant slate
I mean ideally you dont create systems around the fact that there will be bots, you do your best to ban them. Again I think its probably better for the game to have systems like this I just hope high risk PVP gold earning is heavily incentivized over something like this
hallow bridge
I hope crates are horribly inefficient
errant slate
yeah
hallow bridge
Like crumbs compared to caravans
and then we can tell the carebears to go do them if they want no risk
noble elk
damn been offline for a few hours
has everyone figured out this isn't a pvp game now
salty tears say yes
if only they had been consistently pushing that for the last 8 years
midnight surge
Nope cosmetic packs were more important lol
noble elk
those are 2 seperate things
and as much as the cosmetic sales were cringe...... without them they would currently be knocking at our door looking for money some other way right now
midnight surge
Iām just saying like put that much effort into the development side early on, then slowly roll out skins, not the other way around
noble elk
the people making art and cosmetics are not the people coding boss abilities
again 2 seperate things
frigid warren
Something something contractual agreement, maybe liability if they dont provide skins to backers that paid for them. Legal mumble mumble
junior arch
The cosmetic packs were assets for mobs that they sold for player use
noble elk
also kept people engaged while there was nothing else to show them
junior arch
Well mobs and npcs
Was more of, weāre making these for development and need money now. Letās sell them for FOMO
warm swallow
cant i just multi box
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proven grail
soon you will be required to load your van by hand
noble elk
zero risk
zero risk is not necessarily a thing, corruption is currently overturned to discourage assholes from griefing during a testing period and adding the value of someone's walking around murder payout makes it more worth the risk......... eventually it will be worth it to just drop someone in the open world it just isn't worth it today
noble elk
i'm playing right now
noble elk
shut up fool
warm swallow
stay in ur fkn lane
noble elk
ya knowing things
staying
i've been following this for 8 years unlike you inbreds that showed up 6 months ago foaming at the mouth for pvp
narrow ravine
i've been following this for 8 years unlike you inbreds that showed up 6 months ...
good thing I'm new around here
noble elk
yes well you aren't the one telling me I don't know what i'm talking about when i'm just repeating something that has been said consistently for years
also in case yall missed it today did you notice when they mentioned this game isn't for everyone today? ahhhh damn it was after talking about folks looking for non stop pvp
ruh roh
almost like that was the design from day 1 or something
prime panther
good thing I'm new around here
i miss you liniker
dawn dagger
people thinking a minecraft server will be what ashes is like at launch are wild. There's a reason Steven has stated Lineage 2 and ArcheAge are the examples of MMOs he wants to emulate š
trim girder
almost like that was the design from day 1 or something
Has always been amusing to me to see the amount of people that thought this was going to be a pvp game. There will be plenty of sanctioned pvp events in this game, just wont be the gank box / griefers haven some people were hoping for. You'll still be able to do the crime, you'll just have to be willing to suffer the consequences.
warm swallow
noone is asking for pvp game š
but resource scarcity and competition
is the vibe im looking for
removing being able to cc non combatants, and free way to move crates seems to go against that ethos
junior arch
Thatās cause yāall were abusing it
Wow really showed the level 14 that those dandelions are yours mr 25 bard
junior arch
Did my reps through carph and forge and got my people to 25
You probably didnāt even log on by the time I hit 25 tbh
Weirdo too busy fighting off kangaroos and chugging vegemite
Go hide more like you hide your op.gg loser
frigid warren
Average man level to 25. Real man level up node by donating resources 
junior arch
Iām but an average man and an average AoC tester
lunar turtle
i've been following this for 8 years unlike you inbreds that showed up 6 months ...
Otter yapping like they actually have players with hands
glad abyss
No shot people still buy the PvX bullshit
dawn dagger
the best marketing term that guild wars came up with tbf
sacred orchid
No shot people still buy the PvX bullshit
Its for the casuals cuh
hollow kettle
also in case yall missed it today did you notice when they mentioned this game i...
if you look on the wiki there is a quote from steven saying the same thing that is directed towards pve players too. Im not really sure why yall want to seperate pve from pvp so much.
primal rain
its not the most elegant solution i wont lie
and the bit about corruption being overtuned because for some reason we'll be more chill when the punishment is lower makes no sense
but the pvers need to be able to pve
and current design (other than ppl corruption baiting) is that if you're willing to pvp and they are not, they always lose
in like 90% of situations
there need to be pvers, pvers are soft as fuck
let them be protected until the corruption cloud comes to own them
hollow kettle
but the pvers need to be able to pve
bro the pve players will be fine. if they want to only pve in a game like ashes then they have low standards and will be fine regardless. they will have their hidey holes where they can pve a majority of the time and get the gear they want.
primal rain
1 lawless POI per zone and it works
no they wont
i can currently make anyone that doesn't have 3+ people log off
if i want to i can legit make it miserable to play
craggy breach
there need to be pvers, pvers are soft as fuck
primal rain
u need them to be safe
the tricky bit is now white name griefers are now invincible
and if a rogue or bard is mob training u they can grief forever and there's 0 counterplay
craggy breach
u need them to be safe
Youāre gonna go bald trying to make people see reason, brotherman.
Then you will have to join the bald and bearded club.
primal rain
nah they will see it
you just have to paint the picture
like bard for instance
did its soul get completed gutted?
for the 1% of bard players who could get the most of out dance mastery energy?
yes
BUT
that led me to think
if bard lost its soul
dance mastery: energy was the most bard thing possible
which means it would make perfect sense to have some version of it altered by bard with bard secondary archetype
dance mastery: perfection
2 charges of flourish
and the old dance mastery energy
bucky cut us down to make us even stronger
to make us more bard than we were before
i see the vision
raven vessel
bucky cut us down to make us even stronger
cope. Bucky cut us down to make space for the real clown class, rogue.
primal rain
no no no
he simply pruned the branches
we were cut down, yes
but it was to rise again, stronger
bucky's blessings be to you all
raven vessel
Is Moses going to guide to salvation?
dusty pecan
raven vessel
I think I run into him in the game. There you go ^
craggy breach
nah they will see it
You hope they will understand that the flower pickers drive the economic and logistical backbone of this game.
primal rain
Is Moses going to guide to salvation?
bucky will
primal rain
You hope they will understand that the flower pickers drive the economic and log...
100%
THE FLOWER PICKERS NEED SHIT TO DO
THAT INCLUDES PVE
eventually we'll have our lawless island
and tropics will be built out further
its a timing issue
JUST LIKE DANCE MASTERY
WE DIDNT LOSE IT
ITS JUST FAR AWAY NOW
buoyant apex
Its two continents divided by a vast ocean, the lawless area will be quite large and have quite a few events and POI in it
primal rain
and it will come back one day
100%
the castle in the middle of the sea
is going to be the place to be
glad abyss
Surely they are not gonna put a node there
primal rain
a castle node
in the middle of the fucking planet ya
the mini sub nodes are islands
so maybe we'll be on ships during that castle siege?
would be kinda crazy
im hype to see tier 4 node
i hope the walls are high
buoyant apex
that little island above the light green biome would be a good spot for a castle
buoyant apex
maybe
primal rain
or maybe its just not shown in the very center
buoyant apex
there are a couple of island spots that would be great for a castle really, but that one little island would allow you access to almost all trade lanes between both continents easily
primal rain
sacred orchid
and the bit about corruption being overtuned because for some reason we'll be mo...
Its so bad, he literally said he doesnt want to be viable then why the fuck is it in the game
outer stratus
To deter ganking and unnecessary killing of a non combatant
noble elk
if you look on the wiki there is a quote from steven saying the same thing that ...
I don't want to seperate anything, I love ashes design exactly the way it is, it's just frustrating when these idiots show up here expecting a gank box when that's never what it was meant to be...... Every loser crying about bring back lawless zones clearly didn't do 2 minutes of research before buying into ashes.
noble elk
Otter yapping like they actually have players with hands
Don't need hands to have a brain and thankfully I have the latter. Glad you can press buttons though, that really makes your opinion more correct than someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
hollow kettle
I don't want to seperate anything, I love ashes design exactly the way it is, it...
we just wanted pvx and now we got that with rotating lawless poi's
noble elk
.............
glad abyss
I don't want to seperate anything, I love ashes design exactly the way it is, it...
Even if that was the original intent doenst mean that things cant change, this Is why the do alphas, to test their design, and clearly there Is a Need for a constant pvp zone in the game that Is not in the middle of the ocean
sacred orchid
To deter ganking and unnecessary killing of a non combatant
Then why is it in the game
noble elk
Even if that was the original intent doenst mean that things cant change, this I...
There isn't a need there is a desire, and there is also a desire to remove PvP all together and both desires are equally wrong and against the game design
glad abyss
There isn't a need there is a desire, and there is also a desire to remove PvP a...
A desire from a huge part of the playerbase becomes a Need
red turtle
I don't want to seperate anything, I love ashes design exactly the way it is, it...
Was called an idiot 
now, not with the drama, it might be because corruption is too overtuned, but not being able to contest boss's or some mats by fighting for it, it's not the good way to go.
Ok, we see that corruption is the tradeoff to start attacking someone who could not defend themselves, and I 1000% guarantee on that, but then, you need to have it set for a difference in levels instead of a single kill imo.
primal rain
Its so bad, he literally said he doesnt want to be viable then why the fuck is i...
ya that makes no sense
red turtle
I don't think ppl who are farming bosses should be allowed to flag and kill who is grinding to level :/
noble elk
If you put it to a vote more people would vote to remove PvP not increase it...... They just aren't loud ass whiners like yall
noble elk
Was called an idiot <:raging:1305352387891822663>
now, not with the drama, it m...
Yes we are currently skipping LVL 1 corruption
noble elk
Makes it rough
sacred orchid
I don't think ppl who are farming bosses should be allowed to flag and kill who ...
I mean go lvl dont farm the boss?
primal rain
the pvers have legit ARMIES of content creators crying about the pvp
glad abyss
The reason we have guild wars charges Is bc they are giga loud
primal rain
nah guild war charges make sense
glad abyss
?????
primal rain
as does immunity for white names
glad abyss
18 hours
manic crystal
pvpers are minority man, thats why they are loud.
red turtle
I mean go lvl dont farm the boss?
when the bosses are down, there are still - or rather could - open and just kill who is grinding a spot to level - with the current end game being boss farming, not being able to fight for those feels really bad ngl
primal rain
also i think it has some weird jankiness with server reset maybe idk
glad abyss
There shouldnt be a limite, Just put something that prevents u to keep spamming wars on the same guild
noble elk
no they are loud as fuck
Most of them have never sent a single message..... That's what I'm saying, you aren't even aware of how many of them there are because they avoid this place like the plague
primal rain
Most of them have never sent a single message..... That's what I'm saying, you a...
and most pvpers have never sent an actual message of feedback to the devs
red turtle
if the boss is right in the middle of the grind spot, when he is up, could become an event zone around him that had diminished corruption
primal rain
y'all are loud as fuck bro
red turtle
Bosses = Named mobs btw
yeah, this
primal rain
and that's fine
but dont lie abt it
weird as fuck
PvErs need to be protected
or long term the game will be dead
glad abyss
I agree with that
primal rain
this method is kinda unimmersive but idk of a better solution
if i can stun and marionette people
any level 15 group can be terrorized by one bard
how tf is that ok?
people dont do it a lot rn
and maybe you could just say "lots of GMs to enforce no griefing being a dick etc"
glad abyss
Idk man i still think u should be able to fight for resources
primal rain
i mean
ya
corruption should make sense
this pushes us to that
corruption needs to be toned down
because effectively they are untouchable
noble elk
It will be
primal rain
and it should not be the case
there should be a punishment
but it should not be they are untouchable
and it should be implemented asap
not "on launch"
noble elk
Currently LVL 1 corruption is being skipped for testing
manic crystal
How the fuck am gonna level my hunting or contest those 8h spawn timers?
primal rain
and the crate system relies on that
and gathering relies on that
having risk matters
for crafters as well
rn they are too easy to fuck with
sacred orchid
when the bosses are down, there are still - or rather could - open and just kill...
Are you referring to the dynamic poi thing?
primal rain
but they need to fix corruption
sacred orchid
If so i mean thats the thing risk and reward
heady pawn
would you rather meet a man or a bear in the middle of the woods?
red turtle
Are you referring to the dynamic poi thing?
it would be a bit more than that, but imagine, a named/world boss appears and someone starts a fight, an event area around it starts that creates a mini pvp zone for ppl who are around the named/boss level to not get corrupted as easily
manic crystal
Love attrition tho
noble elk
If you can kill 10 people so can everyone else and it just turns into a gank box
manic crystal
My brain just processed that, how gonna contest 4~8h spawn timers on gryphons~wyms n etc
glad abyss
U could have lesser penalties but still annoying af before dropping gear
sacred orchid
corruption should make sense
noble elk
Trolls are why we can't have nice things..... Get mad at the losers who get Hard ons griefing noobs not the noobs trying to enjoy some gaming time
sacred orchid
it would be a bit more than that, but imagine, a named/world boss appears and so...
I meam yea you cant lvl there risk free then for the moment i dont think is bad as you can get more xp while you stay and or better rewards
primal rain
I mean
that's cooked af
Red is not a viable condition
TRUE
but killing isnt supposed to give red
make it make sense
if i kill a low level
sure
give me item loss
sacred orchid
primal rain
but if killing one causes you to lose hours and hours and hours of progress?
sacred orchid
Yea its just bad
I dont mind if im in jail have to pick stones for 30 minutes
But lose items that i spend literal days on
primal rain
and you'd need to farm for quite a while to get it off
stat dampening for any subsequent pvp
sacred orchid
Might as well completly remove that feature
primal rain
would be some risk to it
noble elk
but killing isnt supposed to give red
It is supposed to make you red it's just level 1 corruption won't make you drop gear...... Currently it kind of sucks since you skip to level 2
glad abyss
Yeah they should change that
Would be nice to test the game with the intended punishements
sacred orchid
Guy farming mobs i want to farm him -> i kill him, he walks back in 2min -> cant kill him anymore because i would lose gear
noble elk
sacred orchid
They just need time
noble elk
And yet the design hasn't changed....... Almost like a bunch of people here misinterpreted what kind of game it is meant to be.
primal rain
It is supposed to make you red it's just level 1 corruption won't make you drop ...
ok
sacred orchid
They have a shit ton of plans
primal rain
that is changed design
that is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
its nearly opposite
because one means there is a cost to it
the other means it is NEVER VIABLE
steven said it himself
i am meant to have SOME WAY of interacting with dipshit non combatants
currently i have none
which hasn't mattered until now!
so intrepid has made no errors
but when we test it on PTR, REMIND THEM
we need real corruption - it should be tested
people aren't going to get less toxic on live
sacred orchid
All about risk and reward as they said plently but its just not the case
primal rain
the game needs to work, the systems need to be tested and make sense
primal rain
All about risk and reward as they said plently but its just not the case
one small change away from it
it needs time
the things are coming online
the design is making more sense
but the comments on corruption are shitty, because it sounds backwards
noble elk
Ya with the changes to CC I think it's fair to turn corruption down to intended levels
primal rain
Ya with the changes to CC I think it's fair to turn corruption down to intended ...
BECAUSE WE'RE ALL REASONABLE
DOES IT ALL MAKE SENSE
but we haven't seen no CC yet
sacred orchid
The idea also overtuning it because "its an alpha so people might not care about losing gear" like as if i didnt spend 2 days farming 1 fking item
Giga cooked
primal rain
and when we do lets point that out when we give feedback
noble elk
Lol you are reasonable
sacred orchid
I dont even understand the cc changes
primal rain
Don't lump some of the others in with you
i mean im also super unreasonable
i do
you auto lose all pve
if u dont pvp
and someone else does
sacred orchid
Its even worse for people training mobs and shit
sacred orchid
You cant even cc them anymore if they train you
primal rain
HOW GOOD WOULD THAT FEEL @noble elk
and because you're farming PVE while killing them
your corruption is RAPIDLY cleared
beautiful
manic crystal
I dont even understand the cc changes
is to mainly stop bards/clerics/rogues from bullying ppl from gathering i think.
sacred orchid
Or say someone is chopping a weeping willow, i cant stop him anymore with cc to fight for it
Or kill for it
primal rain
is to mainly stop bards/clerics/rogues from bullying ppl from gathering i think.
and pveing
sacred orchid
WHERE IS THE RISK AND REWARD EH
glad abyss
Hunting 
sacred orchid
Was an example
sacred orchid
is to mainly stop bards/clerics/rogues from bullying ppl from gathering i think.
I mean you are supposed to fight for the limited resource 
Someone stop you from farming it = ok lets fight for it
noble elk
HOW GOOD WOULD THAT FEEL <@432943418768097289>
Ya what you are describing is essentially the intended corruption mechanic
sacred orchid
Juat the ability to cancel it
Idc i will fight for it if i get the ability to do so
primal rain
@proper igloo i think people are making a good point here:
- corruption 1 without item drop would make sense to test alongside CC changes
- you say that alpha players are more willing to lose their gear so it can't be on, but those killings are MEANT to be gear drop free, the logic doesn't follow
- the farming time to clear corruption level 1 is extremely high, so it would be hard to abuse currently
sacred orchid
I literally dropped guild to kill my guildmates because they farmed my mobs
primal rain
The logic never made sensew
"people are more willing to lose gear, which is why we can't test the mechanic that has nothing to do with losing gear"
?
manic crystal
primal rain
this frustrates the hell out of me
glad abyss
sacred orchid
Its just makes no sense
sacred orchid
Its very odd
primal rain
if it's cooked
and ppl are fucking eachother up too much
and no one wants to play
i get it
but the punishment is severe
even without item drop
you can ratchet up the xp debt as well
if you made the xp penalty VERY high
manic crystal
Yellow clearly hasnt slept.
sacred orchid
Dont you also have only 200 hp if you kill like 2 guys lol
manic crystal
when they sending the mails to unlock ptr they said?
noble elk
Well we sit here and talk about resource competition but we all know the #1 thing that will happen is randoms getting ganked in the wild
Has to be something in place to balance things
Also supposed to be quests on place for corruption clearing
glad abyss
Well we sit here and talk about resource competition but we all know the #1 thin...
The penalties should still be punishing enough that u dont Just go and kill randoms
shut fossil
I should be able to honda civic my way over someone taking the trees i won through right of conquest
manic crystal
i think u mean peugeot 206
noble elk
manic crystal
since you are in UK
shut fossil
Shut up bam
manic crystal
Shut up bam
shut fossil
It's Vauxhall Corsas over here
manic crystal
its outdated
noble elk
A little
wild rune
North spamming some guy from the otter guild is fucking hilarious.
Youāre literally talking to a single cell organism
manic crystal
teh dwarf gm got told by margaret when he started complaining about dwarf beards yesterday
noble elk
Youāre literally talking to a single cell organism
Remember when you didn't know what bard uppies did......like a month and a half ago?
manic crystal
so wiki needs an update overall
noble elk
Be gone
manic crystal
It's Vauxhall Corsas over here
thought u were more into peugeot's and golfs.
TMX you are on vacation yet you spend at least 2h a day in here or more when comes to ashes
enjoy the grass, wtf.
wild rune
Remember when you didn't know what bard uppies did......like a month and a half ...
Itās hilarious you actually believe that
shut fossil
thought u were more into peugeot's and golfs.
You think i don't know the cars that the degenerates of my island use
manic crystal
You think i don't know the cars that the degenerates of my island use
yea i think you know i also think my age is showing.
wild rune
Bro Iāve been traveling for 3 weeks you think I canāt use my phone ???
red turtle
Blame Kaiser, he removed TM's access to discord so he cannot check news thru there, so he could be away from the game for a while (just bs)
wild rune
Blame Kaiser, he removed TM's access to discord so he cannot check news thru the...
Damn nova really dead ? What the fuck
red turtle
Damn nova really dead ? What the fuck
was pretty much the only one playing still on this phase, with everything that happened on the 1st month, there are some replanning being cooked and some other things for p3 š
noble elk
Nova merging into otters to create the river otter division
manic crystal
Capibaras?
red turtle
Nova merging into otters to create the river otter division
we gotta explore the Amazon and give more Otterly lands some love
noble elk
manic crystal
Capibaras > otters
red turtle
the war between Otters and Capybaras will go for a long time
wild rune
was pretty much the only one playing still on this phase, with everything that h...
Tbh never thought Iād see nova not be all in
Surprised by that
manic crystal
this phase killed everyone mood, what you expect? lol
lean shuttle
There is deep lore for Otter vs Capybaras.
wild rune
But if thereās a phase to skip this is it
lean shuttle
@noble elk
red turtle
Tbh never thought Iād see nova not be all in
issues in the game in the first month, constant crashes and other things, over 150+ ppl stopped playing in the first month due to it.
With craft as it was, more did the same
glad abyss
Can u guys come play on eu server pls
lean shuttle
What eu server?
glad abyss
The One intrepid got bullied into promising
wild rune
Can u guys come play on eu server pls
Surely no one is actually gonna play eu
craggy breach
Can u guys come play on eu server pls
Only if you send beer to US
noble elk
<@432943418768097289>
glad abyss
Surely no one is actually gonna play eu
lean shuttle
<:tank_otter:1345106474279370752>
FACE ME
lean shuttle
red turtle
@noble elk / @lean shuttle no whisker's eye poking, k ?
lean shuttle
It's too late, he put a sticky note on my head that says "ouch"
craggy breach
Otterbowl real PvP
wild rune
noble elk
Otterbowl is life
lean shuttle
OtterBowl is where real issues get resolved.
noble elk
red turtle
OtterBowl is where real issues get resolved.
You still have to see the hidden plans from the Capybara Capt when he was ambushed
sacred orchid
Can u guys come play on eu server pls
Oh yea
Dailly reminder for US players to come to EU for actual competition
lean shuttle
The only good thing about P2.5 was mega-merged server tbh
sacred orchid
Join the world best players
glad abyss
The only good thing about P2.5 was mega-merged server tbh
Absolutely
sacred orchid
Was cool yes
glad abyss
First month of 2.5 server was popping
glad abyss
Really carried this whole phase for me
red turtle
Imagine how dead it would be without mega server
bring over the copium machines!
lean shuttle
Really felt like Avengers Endgame, everyone's coming together.
noble elk
red turtle
keep it alive til the 14th!
lean shuttle
eu on the other hand...
wild rune
Looks like youāre enjoying the food.
Ya were in brick currently heading to Camden later today
sacred orchid
Should be only 1 server in eu
red turtle
One thing that could happen is an EU migration to NA servers later on
glad abyss
One thing that could happen is an EU migration to NA servers later on
Im hoping in a merge 
sacred orchid
Til NA wins
wild rune
Letās be honest eu server gonna die after two weeks and you all will re-roll na anyway
glad abyss
One month into p3 we go back to One server merging na and eu
wild rune
So just play na and donāt be dumb
glad abyss
Fight for the server location
This guy Is cooking
red turtle
Fight for the server location
would rather fight for setting the hardcoded server events into a better way
so sieges and other things would not be 3-5 am
red turtle
for whoever is playing attk/def
lean shuttle
or you know, just allow players to pick siege times...?
glad abyss
I unironically would prefer to play oce rather than dead EU server
sacred orchid
Dailly reminder for US players to come to EU for actual competition
^
wild rune
or you know, just allow players to pick siege times...?
I mean they need to just steal new-world UI it was goated
lean shuttle
I mean they need to just steal new-world UI it was goated
True, New World had that system well done. One of very few things that game did correctly.
sacred orchid
I unironically would prefer to play oce rather than dead EU server
Any server is better than a dead server kek
glad abyss
glad abyss
just come to NA again
I would like to play a siege from time to time
red turtle
Make the Holiday a thing and move over š
primal rain
we gonna set up some scrim sieges prep the rosters beforehand
lean shuttle
Holiday rename --> Immigration next phase
primal rain
if performance in windandsea is bad weāll limit it to like 48 on each side
lean shuttle
Cartel EU? more like Cartel NA, amirite.
sacred orchid
just come to NA again
Come EU yo
primal rain
nah iām serious i tank these chinese caravels i got money to spend
sacred orchid
Play with good people
primal rain
server will die
sacred orchid
Not if NA is there
glad abyss
Imagine an AURA-POLAR Alliance on eu server
sacred orchid
Yea they most certainly would dodge
primal rain
no but seriously roll NA
glad abyss
That would be kinda scary
sacred orchid
no but seriously roll NA
That will never happen
primal rain
weāll get steven to change siege times
sacred orchid
Come eu or bust
proven grail
OCE mega server so everyone gets fucked equally
starlink server
craggy breach
no worries my euro bruddas
All intrepid has to do is make territories regional.
Would be an interesting ever changing map
red turtle
All intrepid has to do is make territories regional.
Make it so the Mayor can set the node timezone ?
craggy breach
Make it so the Mayor can set the node timezone ?
Something like that, why not?
Guilds would adapt to being global entities or at least being in global alliances.
primal rain
All intrepid has to do is make territories regional.
that would be so sick
that would be SO sick
craggy breach
I donāt know how hard it is to put a good translating program in but I wouldnāt mind. More peoples recipes to learn irl
craggy breach
that would be SO sick
Iām on a phone or Id feedback it RN
craggy breach
Yup
primal rain
would go so fucking hard
sacred orchid
Yea no
sacred orchid
you could make the island on the bottom right
Should be lawless then
primal rain
xd
craggy breach
In Asherons Call we just played with everyone
lilac cliff
ur dads a sleeper contient judging by the size of the lad
proven grail
dog act
craggy breach
ur dads a sleeper contient judging by the size of the lad
My Dads ashes irl, RIP
lilac cliff
f
lilac cliff
imagine watching cricket
id rather watch grass grow
proven grail
that's why you're in Amnesty
craggy fog
cricket is fucking shit
wild rune
So every guild on the server teaming up to fight polar
While Iām in EU
You guys better win or itāll be really embarrassing
ruby igloo
Any new players need gold?
wild rune
CAN WE GET A LIST OF GUILDS WHO ARE TEAMING UP TO TRY TO BEAT POLAR???
grand oak
Is the GM sipping on a drink at the beach while his men get attacked?
wild rune
Purple @nimble pine
Anvil @candid mauve
Aura @west shore
EU
And 6 other guilds
All teaming up to try to beat polar???
If you guys lose holy shit thatās an uninstall and never log in
errant slate
tm getting his discord siege in right now since he cant participate
respect
dont worry bro we are running a bunch of siege scrims the rest of the phase
we will get you in some
wild rune
Listen you put the server W (which we already had) in the bag we get to fight every guild on the server in one fight lmao
If you guys donāt winā¦. Holy fuck
errant slate
aura creates the content brother
we play the game and love it
i got you
i have 2 more siege scrolls ready to pop
errant slate
ill carry your guilds content tm
im here for you
1 chinese caraval at a time
im here for all of you
silk hamlet
Who had tm fomo crashout on their bingo card
sacred orchid
So every guild on the server teaming up to fight polar
Who tf is even playing
lilac cliff
midnight surge
lilac cliff
dry lip haver confirmed
midnight surge
Middle schooler ^ confirmed
noble elk
Who had tm fomo crashout on their bingo card
Literally everyone
lunar turtle
Don't need hands to have a brain and thankfully I have the latter. Glad you can...
Bot detected
silk hamlet
Literally everyone
Free square
willow barn
silk hamlet
noble elk
Bot detected
Nobody asked
ruby igloo
I have enough real money thanks
stoic wagon
More real money doesn't hurt
ruby igloo
Lol
haughty galleon
I have enough real money thanks
I'll take one billion dollars please.
wild rune
Iām getting drunk in Camden
You are gathering the entire game of players to try to beat Polar
Heard you guys were begging steven to join the siege
āPlz we need help beating polar were recruiting everyone steven plzzzzzā
tink tink guess whatā¦ polar wins again
stoic terrace
*tink tink* guess whatā¦ polar wins again
Obviously very drunk already
winter meadow
sacred orchid
You are gathering the entire game of players to try to beat Polar
Can someone explain the lore here
glad abyss
Big siege tonight, Polar Is defending, apparently some guilds are organizing vs them
sacred orchid
"Big" huh
trim girder
Did it finally reach 100v100? Last I checked it was like 80v80
untold canopy
craggy breach
hallow bridge
The biggest
Might be the only siege on Shol that doesn't have a side coping that they aren't even trying
haughty galleon
Ya Aura had to glaze other guilds to get them to help. They are tired of getting slapped around by POLAR so they had to bring in outside help.
glad abyss
Will be interesting for sure
haughty galleon
Yeah good change of pace being on the defensive this time.
sacred orchid
Will be interesting for sure
You think?
glad abyss
You think? <:kekw:822066982295306290>
I Hope
prime panther
polar vs aura, purple, project anvil, vice, hard
sacred orchid
Project anvil is my fav guild one guy called me white cis male
olive yarrow
@wild rune login from europe
shot call from a phone discord screen
surely you brought the laptop
wild rune
Might be the only siege on Shol that doesn't have a side coping that they aren't...
Well Iām not even there lmao and most of our guild is also on vacationā¦ and you recruited every guild on the server.
So if you donāt win gonna be really embarrassing
wild rune
<@171837536019152906> login from europe
Nah going to Scotland tomorrow early need to be on a train canāt be up at 4am
frigid warren
So when are we staging an intervention for tm's drinking habits
hallow bridge
Well Iām not even there lmao and most of our guild is also on vacationā¦ and you ...
Yeah I feel ya most of our guild is really busy irl since its the weekend and couldnāt make it but we are always willing to spare some people for a fight
quasi gyro
glad abyss
willow barn
actual freaks man
olive yarrow
<@1194107108128469082> why do you type this shit? wtf is wrong with you v
because i think its funny
did i hurt your feelings
willow barn
you think accusing people of saying racial slurs is funny
sacred orchid
Seems more like drama baiting but 
olive yarrow
@willow barn called me the n word
willow barn
Seems more like drama baiting but <:hmmm:1118503125419045016>
yes
primal rain
witch hunt11!!1!!11
sacred orchid
Well go ahead
willow barn
witch hunt11!!1!!11
sacred orchid
Get the drama done
primal rain
sacred orchid
Im on the shitter im reading
olive yarrow
wild rune
olive yarrow
wild rune
15 guilds vs POLAR
The GM drunk in London china townā¦
Kaizer raised up by responsibilityā¦ to face the one he replacedā¦.
willow barn
I cannot imagine oof's mental, he has to be in a call with north for hours at a time
do you ever get sick of his over stimmy breakdowns?
sacred orchid
Is the whole server more than 7 people tho
olive yarrow
imagine the mental being so weak you cant handle yellow
dudes like a 5/10 on the scale of some of the freaks ive dealt with on his worst day
wild rune
Heās been trainedā¦ he knows the techniquesā¦ his enemy Northā¦ looking for any weakness in the POLAR strongholdā¦
Will the young intelligent charming Kaizer be able to defeat his once friend?
wild rune
North has allied all the most victimized people he could findā¦ but will it be enoughā¦.
olive yarrow
@stray hearthgue
olive yarrow
@willow barn
olive yarrow
@willow barn
willow barn
@willow barn
wild rune
Oof you better not lose broā¦
This should be the easiest victory ever
Iām not there half the guild on vaca
You have every guild on the server helping you guysā¦
willow barn
If they lose to our crafters....
sacred orchid
hm thats not kaiser
It quite says kaiser
wild rune
If you win is it an aura victory???? @nimble pine who gets credit?
@limpid pagoda Under northās control again
haughty galleon
It's crazy that it took a month of POLAR not logging on then logging on to destroy 3 AURA caravels and beat them in back to back wars for them to siege us.
I guess that day hurt the ego a little too much.
wild rune
@candid mauve neck under the boot of auraā¦ pa pa polar is mean š¦
haughty galleon
All the POLAR haters under one banner. This is what I love to see.
candid mauve
imagine theres 2 people u can play a siege with and 1 of them doesnt take 3 business days to respond and give you washy unreliable rostering
wild rune
olive yarrow
Oof you better not lose broā¦
imma be honest i dont even play this game
willow barn
nooo dont back out nowwww
vestal needle
olive yarrow
https://tenor.com/view/marshawn-lynch-interview-im-here-so-i-wont-get-fined-foot...
exactly
wild rune
imma be honest i dont even play this game
Bro you recruited the whole server have more confidence we never lost an offenseā¦ surely you wonāt
olive yarrow
tho this might be the only time polar has played against a decent roster
willow barn
wym we beat EU + you
olive yarrow
Bro you recruited the whole server have more confidence we never lost an offense...
i had no part in this
haughty galleon
EU had a better roster ngl
sacred orchid
You guys need to up ur game in baiting
wild rune
Officer in his guildā¦.
willow barn
eu died like dogs
wild rune
No part in itā¦
olive yarrow
wym we beat EU + you
yeah, super sick roster LOL
glad abyss
willow barn
yeah, super sick roster LOL
wym bro eu are good players
glad abyss
bro eu server is gonna be so boring
willow barn
good go back
untold canopy
bro eu server is gonna be so boring
shut fossil
wym we beat EU + you
Hou barely counts as decent
glad abyss
PLS @proper igloo KEEP THE MEGA SERVER FOR P3
willow barn
nty
olive yarrow
i been on that nightreign and dune grind
haughty galleon
Hou barely counts as decent
That's a step above aura.
olive yarrow
and they just ruined dune
sacred orchid
Eng dub
willow barn
Saying hou rep eu is like saying Axiom reps all of NA
wym flanker only canceled his abilities on accident 20 times
olive yarrow
Saying hou rep eu is like saying Axiom reps all of NA
wym axiom on top
willow barn
hes good bro
untold canopy
inb4 someone pings axiom XD
haughty galleon
Saying hou rep eu is like saying Axiom reps all of NA
Axiom ran the most prosperous node in P2. Top guild.
olive yarrow
@spring bobcat
sacred orchid
I lvled with axiom grp a bit, nice people
candid mauve
u really had to put him as the guy that likes questionable women didnt you, doing him dirty like that
sacred orchid
We even killed EU guilds together
shut fossil
I lvled with axiom grp a bit, nice people
Nothing against em just pulled a random na guilds name out
haughty galleon
We even killed EU guilds together
Killing your own is fucked up.
sacred orchid
Killing your own is fucked up.
Bro i even killed my own guild when they tried to contest me
glad abyss
Killing your own is fucked up.
not killing eu made us almost quit the game
willow barn
its ok, we can stop the cope. Attacking is hard. If polar can do it 5x then surely aura can
shut fossil
not killing eu made us almost quit the game
The firing squad execution on steel and flame
Best therapy I've ever had
olive yarrow
imagine na holding hands
glad abyss
The firing squad execution on steel and flame
oneup setting up a timer for the crashout on discord
olive yarrow
we could never
primal rain
people who use punctuation in discords should be put down
glad abyss
so fucking funny man
wild rune
If north loses to Kaiser it will be a truly a poetic world
sacred orchid
people who use punctuation in discords should be put down
haughty galleon
oneup setting up a timer for the crashout on discord
Did the alliance actually crash out š
shut fossil
Cannot wait to fight over our glorious leveling tower on p3 wipe again
wild rune
A story told a thousand timesā¦
sacred orchid
Even worse people who do 3 dots...
untold canopy
theyre talking the pvp league. dense people as usual lol
sacred orchid
A story told a thousand timesā¦
Like this idiot
wild rune
Northā¦ murdered and put down by his apprenticeā¦ his partnerā¦ his friendā¦
shut fossil
Did the alliance actually crash out š
Nah we had a timer in the discord that if we weren't out the Alliance by the time it was out my group would go rogue
sacred orchid
I still wanna do that
shut fossil
Then holiday coin was born as a way to bait EU guilds into attacking us so I could change my name in the alliance discord to [Word Bearers] Lorgar and then post clips of us being attacked first even tho we provoked it to break the alliance
Masterful maneuvering
sacred orchid
Bait what though alliance was gone like 12 hrs after or some shit
sacred orchid
Did the alliance actually crash out š
And nah it was just boring nothing to fight
shut fossil
Bait what though alliance was gone like 12 hrs after or some shit <:kekw:8220669...
Ah man i wonder what caused that
I really do
untold canopy
Im so excited that Miruku is staying on the NA servers
wild rune
Papi typing
proper igloo
How was the lag in 2.5 for EU players.
shut fossil
STEVEN?
sacred orchid
I mean we all wanted to split before
willow barn
untold canopy
How was the lag in 2.5 for EU players.
@fallen solar
willow barn
<@167780457524625409> called me the n word
@proper igloo surely this isn't allowed
untold canopy
Steven you coming to watch the PvP league? š
untold canopy
Nice! Whats for lunch
olive yarrow
<@257237915963359233> surely this isn't allowed
https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-le-snitch-goat-james-le-getthemout-lakers-vs-pacers-gif-23917839
proper igloo
Burger and hot dog
shut fossil
How was the lag in 2.5 for EU players.
Not bad when the server workers were contested in big fights it felt like we had it worse. Character stalls, for most of the phase it felt like playing on EU only when the SW were really stressing did it feel bad.
untold canopy
Soem brats sound reall good rn
willow barn
Soem brats sound reall good rn
sacred orchid
How was the lag in 2.5 for EU players.
Its not bad unless the server gets laggy so you have input lag kick in also dash abilities such as blitz from fighter gives you rubberbanding sometimes and hold abilities such as deliverance from cleric feel cluncky but overall was quite decent. Vast Majority liked playing on 1 big server
trim girder
Burger and hot dog
1? How can you cook just 1 of each
wet loom
Its not bad unless the server gets laggy so you have input lag kick in also dash...
i did not like it
glad abyss
How was the lag in 2.5 for EU players.
cant feel the ping at all, but would be nice to have custom prime time that would accomodate eu players as well
primal rain
proper igloo
1? How can you cook just 1 of each
Well 2 of each. One of each for John and myself šŖ
noble elk
glad abyss
an east coast based server with custom prime time would be the perfect scenario
sacred orchid
an east coast based server with custom prime time would be the perfect scenario ...
I'd like that or a merge after 2 months since eu will be dead by then
shut fossil
cant feel the ping at all, but would be nice to have custom prime time that woul...
Mayor changeable siege timers would be perfect within certain slots so 6PM-10PM CEST and same time on whatever Time zone they wanna use for NA peeps.
glad abyss
keep these eus
no we wanna play with u guys 
sacred orchid
off my servers
You mean our server
glad abyss
Mayor changeable siege timers would be perfect within certain slots so 6PM-10PM ...
yes for sure this would be amazing
shut fossil
my server
3-0
willow barn
why you all just soy jack cry muh muh polar explotinggg
trim girder
Well 2 of each. One of each for John and myself šŖ
I don't fire up the grill for less than a 8pk of dogs and 4 burgers. Air fryer for less than that lol
glad abyss
Steven we had 2 EU teams in the PvP tournament final, ping isnt an issue at all
sacred orchid
Airfryer is goated
glad abyss
just a classic eu domination
shut fossil
just a classic eu domination
Damn right babyyyy
wild rune
@proper igloo
Hot take: the world should be partitioned by international serversā¦ west continent NA.. east EU and so on.