alpha-two-shol-us

[clear torrent]

Awake you are wild

[signal axle]

Gonna have to elaborate

[pallid burrow]

I wouldn't say that he's a special boy that got upset he got banned

[clear torrent]

I will not. But you know why.

[signal axle]

No, truly dont.

You mean this? Me, being reasonable, not resorting to insults over a difference of opinion, getting red in the face sweating? Untiltable mountain of positivity btw! all it took was a different opinion to destroy a mountain

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-boy-here-we-go-again-oh-dear-omg-alright-then-gif-20490490

[signal axle]

But no, I didn't mention anything in global, All i asked was who else was running for mayor in shorefoot, lol

[glad abyss]

this shit funny af

bro is giga crashing out

[signal axle]

Literally all it was, was me having a different opinion on how to deal with greifers lol

because I didnt assimilate my opinion, crash out.

[glad abyss]

so to make this clear u were getting mob trained and decided to mob train yourself and he didnt like it?

[signal axle]

Yes - My opinion is, if someones VERY CLEARLY greifing you "Mob training, corruption baiting, etc" they deserve the same thing.

my opinion is NOT go around and greif random people because someone did it to you... thats stupid.

[glad abyss]

i mean steven literally said that mob training is fair game and not a bannable offense

so u were just playing the game

[pallid burrow]

Why do you keep misspelling griefing

I before e except after c

[signal axle]

Really, of all the things you could come at me sideways with

that was your course of action

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[pallid burrow]

Why would I say
Anything else

[bold cargo]

The troll energy here is high

[signal axle]

Good point, theres nothing else to say.

[pallid burrow]

Agreed you replied to me

I must've bothered you

[signal axle]

I tend to reply to people when they DM me.... thats what normal people do.

[pallid burrow]

That wasn't a dm

[signal axle]

You DM'd me yesterday, I replied. Your DM was amusing, I saw the same thing happening to you that you DM'd me about, and pointed it out to you, because its hilarious.

[pallid burrow]

I did

You replied

I didn't respond to your last one

[signal axle]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-felicia-good-goodbye-boy-gif-12082867296544709823

[pallid burrow]

Conversation over

You're still mad

[ruby igloo]

EU vs NA was better that this shit

[signal axle]

Learn what over means. Toodles

[pallid burrow]

You're weird

[lost patrol]

dusty has had small dick energy for months now

dude would crash out in chat anytime my name appeared on the screen/fought him/whatever

[ruby igloo]

Lets take about price better

Someone get me rividium focus for 90g

Or basilisk tunic for 150

[signal axle]

I sold mine for 75, because I'm not a psychopath

[ruby igloo]

If you ever get one again I am here

Need second one to test

[signal axle]

If i get it again im keeping it, i sold it cause my friends are mooches, its like im supporting a household on AOC

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-money-al-bundy-married-with-children-i-have-no-cash-i-dont-have-money-on-me-gif-23009005

[ruby igloo]

Well yea

[signal axle]

Just to be clear too - I wasn't the only one sharing that opinion, some of his guildies did as well, in the chat, I was the only one he was crashing out on... which makes it more hilarious

[ruby igloo]

Can also trade lungs bloom warden shoulders and some other items for basilisk tunic if anyone is interested

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-brother-let-it-go-spn-supernatural-move-on-gif-3563305

[signal axle]

https://tenor.com/view/multiversx-x-xportal-egld-crypto-gif-11726500578360569683

[pallid burrow]

I don't even disagree with you

[ruby igloo]

The fucking NA prime hours hit different

[pallid burrow]

Btw

But you gotta let it go

[ruby igloo]

The prices are cheaper when compared to to EU prime time prices

😕

[signal axle]

You brought it up

[pallid burrow]

When

Not today

[sonic anchor]

I LIKE PIE

[signal axle]

Twice, actually, Considering i didnt even say anything in global

[pallid burrow]

You initiated the conversation

I asked for clarification

[signal axle]

I didnt mention a single word about that, you did.

[pallid burrow]

Would help if you didn't hide your game name On discord

[signal axle]

Disgressing, agree to disagree, agree, I don't care. What I wanna know is wtf is going on with bard.

[ruby igloo]

Ornj

You was deleted

Kek

[hexed needle]

Lol read Rividium and assumed it was a scepter not a focus

[ruby igloo]

I got scepter

[hexed needle]

Gimme

[signal axle]

Sold both for 75

[ruby igloo]

I am using it

[signal axle]

Scam prices are wild rn

[ruby igloo]

75 is low price

[hexed needle]

But it would make so much more use on me dude!

[signal axle]

thats the sad part. its really not, but with the current scam prices it looks like it is lol

[ruby igloo]

Yea sadly we are on this kind of prices atm

Nothing to do about it

[hexed needle]

I need rividum or a folly and no1 is selling me one

[ruby igloo]

Folly was sold on old price for 250

Now it’s idk

800?

[ruby igloo]

One time that I saw it in trade

[warm swallow]

HAHAHAAAHA

[hexed needle]

We bought two in week 1 and I haven't seen one since. They were 170g and 140g but yea I probs can't even afford one now with the RMT mess we're in

[ruby igloo]

Yea

[sacred yacht]

Just do trades and ignore gold. Gear is more stable than money lol

[hexed needle]

Unlucky clerics prio on the scepter so the two we bought I never saw

[ruby igloo]

Yes and no

[signal axle]

what class u testing it on? bard?

[hexed needle]

Yea bard

[signal axle]

interesting

[hexed needle]

Its bis imo

[ruby igloo]

Healing bard

[sacred yacht]

It is

[ruby igloo]

Interesting

It’s not clover

[sacred yacht]

Healing bard best bard

[ruby igloo]

Oh sorry

[signal axle]

idk, i dont feel like bard has enough cd's to make that good? but havent actually seen it so idk

probably in larger pvp groups sure

[ruby igloo]

I meant tou replying on items vs gold

You need to have both

[sacred yacht]

Genuinely

[ruby igloo]

Sadly a lot of people do not take trades

[sacred yacht]

What is gold used for other than trading

[ruby igloo]

And you NEED to have gold

[hexed needle]

Bards are pure support these days. Since the new ttk damage output is nothing compared to what it used to be so their best use is to just stay alive, dance when you can, throw out a couple gambits and keep your song up for your party

[ruby igloo]

Otherwise you won’t get an item

But I would ofc better have 5x khaldirs than 800g

[hexed needle]

Also fortissimo on cd (but TM says this is exploiting)

[signal axle]

I'm gonna try healer summoner when it comes out.... I hope its good, cause wanna main it

[sacred yacht]

Enchantment is worthless. You don't even need 200g to find an entire guild worth of crafters and processors. Gold has no value to begin with.

[sacred yacht]

How is that exploiting?

[hexed needle]

I couldn't understand him. He says that bards fortissimo isn't meant to work how it does. Even though it works exactly how it's described in the tooltip

[ruby igloo]

Gold always have value because saying it again if you are looking for specific item let’s say stone belt or lungs majority of the people who are selling them will not take trades

But take only gold

[hexed needle]

He got a bit butt hurt when we wiped him 10-3 in our 8v8 scrims and needed an excuse I think

[sacred yacht]

Bard diff always hits hard

[hexed needle]

Bard diff do be hitting hard ngl

[sacred yacht]

But why

Explain the reasoning behind taking gold

What do they do with gold

[spice bobcat]

A currency is as good as the things it can buy. Currently that’s everything on the market, so it will be valued to some degree at least. Even if the only use is for crafting taxes, as enchanting isn’t feasible

[ruby igloo]

There can be multiple reasons
Dividing profit from sales to their static group
Selling that gold
Or others

Me personally I would always trade for the needed items cuz need them for my bard and missing two pieces for cleric

[glad abyss]

wtb basilisk chest

[ruby igloo]

Yea me too

The only difference that you can farm it and me not😕

[glad abyss]

why

[ruby igloo]

Hard to find people for that

[glad abyss]

really? its one of the best items in the game

drop rate kinda ass tho

[ruby igloo]

And if I will find anyone it will be heavily contested and I need to do ffa rules

So I will just wait and try to find it on market or in trade

Saw it only only one time in unc for 250g

[glad abyss]

worth tbh

i actually never seen one

and when we tried to farm it we got giga unlucky

[ruby igloo]

The drops are ass in general

[warm swallow]

700g U can have

[round osprey]

[ruby igloo]

@bilibili

Oh he is not here

[glad abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/green-whats-your-problem-tense1983-rage-angry-gif-14541377

[lusty stream]

Lets farm basi chest

[ruby igloo]

Easy I will dm you in game tomorrow

[lyric oracle]

I wanna see the 30 seconds after that as remorse sets in

[warm swallow]

13hrs

At hr 9 i got my first drop

( it was the sword)

[glad abyss]

damn u got pretty lucky

i think we farmed it for 2 days straight

[vocal fiber]

why basilisk skin over iron wing?

[warm swallow]

Can git MIT from other pieces

1k hp chest is goated

[vocal fiber]

light armor 😬

[rustic cloak]

wear an iron breastplate then

[vocal fiber]

theres a point where more mitigation > more health and vice versa

also a point where more lethality > more survivability

very situational topic

[warm swallow]

If you can understand MIT and pen in this game you deserve Nobel prize

[rustic cloak]

mit = workie
pen = no workie

easy

[vocal fiber]

pen apparently functions

also chatgpt called me a clown for even suggesting mit over hp

[spice bobcat]

The real gameplay

[rustic cloak]

mitigation also amplifies healing received

and pen does kind of work but now its multiplicative with mitigation instead of additive so it is quite weak

[vocal fiber]

with everyone mit stacking perhaps it has more value now 🧐

[paper wren]

wait you spent 13hr to get basilisk chest?

[dusty pecan]

and they are right

[warm shale]

don't come at eve online like this. I love my spreadsheets

[red turtle]

we are still making spreadsheets for Ashes, some of them even became full fledged websites xD

[gritty rapids]

bro I love and respect my spreadsheeters

I will never do it, my brain isn't big enough, but they make my life easy

[heady pawn]

I used to play this game

man eve online was so good but I got permabanned

[spice bobcat]

Many ping today

[dire plinth]

Hey guys!!! "X" won Phase 2.5!!!

Hey, why doesn't anyone care?!

[heady pawn]

true

turns out it's very easy to beat america

[junior arch]

We’re 2 time world champs so until we lose I don’t wanna hear it 😎

[glacial sleet]

What did you do to eat a permaban from Eve?

[heady pawn]

I used to play with one guy who was really good at scamming people

so good they had to permaban people around him too

[glacial sleet]

.......

i call all sorts of bullshit

ccp never cared if you scammed people

[finite frigate]

lol they do not ban people like that in eve

[heady pawn]

Well, this time they did

[glacial sleet]

except if you did it with the character bazzaar

[heady pawn]

Apparently if you make people upset enough it's harrassment

[glacial sleet]

i think there are critical portions of this story that are being excluded

[thorny urchin]

it's not harrassment if you're in a big sweat guild though. they get a pass with gold stars and flying mounts

[heady pawn]

oh, and if you scam their skillpoints you get permabanned

that was probably the issue

[gritty rapids]

He just didn't swipe enough

That's all

[glacial sleet]

was this some injector scam?

[warm shale]

Yeah this dude talking out of his ass

[heady pawn]

he talked to people and convinced them to give him their skillpoints

[glacial sleet]

ahhh yes

[heady pawn]

I forgot to add that part, my bad

[glacial sleet]

full bullshit

[heady pawn]

It's true

[lean shuttle]

Imagine playing Eve online

Couldn’t be me

[rose olive]

Unc got banned for rmt and made up a story

[supple lodge]

how long is the server down

[lean shuttle]

#alpha-two-news message

[untold canopy]

I heard eve

[chrome merlin]

Calm down @untold canopy you're drooling again

[lofty trail]

@red turtle are yall still planning on doing JM lumbermilling/carpentry? when yall thing it will be up?

[red turtle]

Hopefully LM is completed soon, this was also checked monday night, it should have a bit more.

[sudden flame]

All for vendors to have nothing on them anyways and we wait for LJ tool

[lofty trail]

i thouht JM lumber tools came together with JM carpentry and lumber mill buildings? 😢

[sudden flame]

They do not

Hence why people have been angry over stations being built the way they are in a 3 month phase

If it was real p3 then I fuck with the mayors wanting all processing etc in riverlands so less running around but putting gathering tools in tropics/bfe desert nodes just fks resources a ton

[lofty trail]

oh boy

[viral carbon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq71J1ij_pg

[wraith summit]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/275579395450601472 here is the correct location

[viral carbon]

Ohhhh ty

[pallid burrow]

go bother someone else

[silk hamlet]

He's got enough of his own

[pallid burrow]

its true

can't say i've ever stalked twitch chat before though

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

he really needs to let it go

[signal axle]

Nah I just ran across it as I was making this https://youtu.be/acX4zsy-6rY

Maybe dont talk about me for 2 days str8 using a platform to defame someone because they have different opinions about something.

[signal axle]

You literally DM'd me in game because u saw me in twitch chat.

https://tenor.com/view/doing-the-math-thinking-gif-6813854106254751879

[pallid burrow]

I whispered you in game because you were hving a hissy fit in global chat

stop pinging me weirdo

already weird you're stalking me

[signal axle]

Wheres these screenshots of me having a hissy fit?

[pallid burrow]

why would I have a screenshot

[signal axle]

Asking whos running for mayor of a town is a hissy fit for you? make it make sense to me.

[pallid burrow]

I don't care

[signal axle]

You clearly do? since YOU dm'd ME....?

[pallid burrow]

whispered

dms are on discord

[signal axle]

I'm just trying to make sense of what you're saying, cause its not adding up.

[pallid burrow]

i don't care

[signal axle]

What exactly did i say or do that befits a hissy fit?

[pallid burrow]

leave me alone dude you're getting really weird

[signal axle]

You're a walking meme.
1: Make stuff up
2: dont back up claims
3:victim

[prime panther]

bro you don’t have to respond to him lol it’s a public discord

if you think he’s getting weird all you gotta do is hit ignore 🤷‍♂️

[signal axle]

^

[prime panther]

no need to bitch bout anything

[pallid burrow]

what do you mean?

[signal axle]

literally starts a convo with me, then victimizes himself for attention

[pallid burrow]

when did i start a convo with you?

you've pinged me multiple times today

[signal axle]

Extreme short term memory loss?

[pallid burrow]

dude

i whispered you

LAST NIGHT

in game

the conversation was over

[proven jungle]

mfw 35 year olds are typing in this chat when the game isn't even up
log on Ewok Hunt cowards

[signal axle]

Ok, and you are, right now, claiming something happened, I asked you what that is since you dont seem to know, nor do I... and you're in full victim mode to avoid it... its not that serious.

[pallid burrow]

dude

get help

[prime panther]

bf2 so fun

[signal axle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-irony-irony-ironic-gif-6233732

[pallid burrow]

I'm ignoring you now

[signal axle]

Please do, thank you.

[pallid burrow]

i've already dm'd the CM's about your weird behavior

[signal axle]

Dont engage in a convo with me if u dont want my response

[sudden flame]

Mid

[prime panther]

nuh uh

[signal axle]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-punch-gif-9826552

[sudden flame]

Giving me a Star Wars skinned battlefield 4 would’ve been infinite money glitch

[paper light]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberbullying-gif-10838870549642717127

[signal axle]

the energy you exude.

[prime panther]

bros just ass at battlefront

[sudden flame]

Considering it’s the easiest shooter ever made

[manic crystal]

8min video dusty crashing out?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[prime panther]

I wanna see dusty crash out where is it

[sudden flame]

Tell me a Star Wars skinned battlefield wouldn’t have been better and I’ll call you a lair

[manic crystal]

Awake posted it

[prime panther]

Is this it?

[signal axle]

yes.

[prime panther]

🍿

[sudden flame]

Watch The Throne coming for all the ashes guilds

[prime panther]

poor man’s emote cuz ion have nitro

[sudden flame]

[signal axle]

there u go

[manic crystal]

Hey nitro is expensive

[prime panther]

Ty

It’s against my principle to buy nitro

🤣

[manic crystal]

I like nitro

when is free

[sudden flame]

Draco has nitro now

[manic crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodsport-kung-fu-80s-shock-shocked-gif-4245780559702281063

Well, watched the video

nothing new to me

[prime panther]

[signal axle]

Streamer with Ego issues, nothing new.

[prime panther]

axiom got some fire emotes

[manic crystal]

go back no non nitro

NAOW

[prime panther]

hehehehhehe

[lean shuttle]

He’s tasted the light. He can’t go back anymore

RIP Dracoth anti-nitro (due to principle)

2025-2025

[prime panther]

[prime panther]

[prime panther]

[sudden flame]

Playing a mage^

[prime panther]

is it rmt if I give him a basilisk chest for this 🤣

@sudden flame

[manic crystal]

@ steven

[sudden flame]

https://tenor.com/view/you-to-me-gif-5464565068190392814

Gimme your belt tho

[manic crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[prime panther]

HELL NO

I hate grinding lungs

[sudden flame]

I was gonna give you some rogue gear but nope

I’ll be ganking your rogue

[prime panther]

😔

My rogue is ungankable

[manic crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-tsang-gif-25331686

[prime panther]

full stealth

[sudden flame]

I’ll pull a Zybak and only attack when you’re half hp with 9 mobs on you

[prime panther]

Zybak when he attacks me while I’m dueling his guildie

that’s a fire emote dark and darker

[sudden flame]

[prime panther]

[woven orchid]

Got some sillies in here lol

https://tenor.com/view/duck-with-sunglasses-driving-car-gif-1633248089450137490

[kind terrace]

Imagine being unhappy after someone didn't respect a 1v1

After not respecting someone's scrims

[shut fossil]

This seems like a recurring pattern

[wild rune]

Tfw ppl 8v8 in ashes but couldn’t get past 1600 in wow arena

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-star-shooting_star-sky-stargazing-gif-10115644

This game is a pop of 2500 ppl no one is good you all suck and literal wood ranking in every other game.. that’s why you play ashes

[silk hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/lilnouns-nouns-lil-nouns-dao-noggles-gif-27131043

[noble elk]

Servers up today

Patch is going to fix everything too

[red turtle]

How was your otter day ?

[noble elk]

Otterly wonderful

[red turtle]

https://tenor.com/uBp1jK3C12o.gif

[noble elk]

[next barn]

[wild rune]

1k prize pool btw for the 8v8 tournament

If you win you can buy ten more ashes keys pogggg

[still quarry]

Will 1k usd gonna be enough to pay for child support for 3 baby mamas?

[heady pawn]

yes

if you run out of money, then you don't have to pay at all

works either way

[robust holly]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[noble elk]

[glad abyss]

WHO IS READY FOR SOME FIRE CRAFTING???

[noble elk]

[proven cedar]

🦦 🔫

[noble elk]

[rustic jacinth]

ya know what i would love if they could add it

Focus target, and Target of my target keybinds like in archeage.

[bold cargo]

FOCUS TARGET

PLEASE

[supple lodge]

I’m looking for a guild

[sacred orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-i-love-you-so-much-gif-10862015092269957633

[supple lodge]

this server seems disorganized or is it just me

[hard blaze]

just wait until theres 85 nodes lmao

[rustic jacinth]

Alright lets take bets lets take bets place your gold here

what time do you think the server will actually be up
and a bonus, do you think crafting changes will finally be here this week

https://tenor.com/view/place-your-bets-now-people-saturday-night-live-sportsmax-bet-on-it-gamble-on-that-gif-19652904

[dusty pecan]

it wil be on time with no patch

[glad abyss]

10g on server in time but no .11

[stark wolf]

yeah seems like no patch

[dawn dagger]

it will be delayed 3 months and people will call it phase 2.75 as a cope is my bet

[pallid burrow]

No

[rustic jacinth]

with the current state of the game and how things are going i will be shocked if they dont delay phase 3 there isnt enough signicant changes to justify going into phase 3

and major issues such as hacking, Corruption bugs and crafting system needs to be changed, fixed and adjusted. also the wild balancing issue of both items, gear ,drop rates and classes should be adjusted before p3.

other wise were just changing a number and will run into the exact same issues all over again on a wipe lol.

[dawn dagger]

we're already in p3 but agree

[robust holly]

I doubt they do much heavy balancing before a ton more content is added tbh

[stark wolf]

but they already got like a whole 4-5 things done on the P3 section of the road map :p

[granite lichen]

Target of my target

I miss that from other games

[rustic jacinth]

Light balancing like adjusting some skills
Make fighter stance swapping instant cast like blood fusion, Lowering cata cast time so its a useful skill

fixing bards bug where they sometimes shield there enemies. smaller balance changes like that where its more so number adjusting or bug fixes. that can just make the gameplay much more smoother and classes better. before Heavy balancing like changing entire functionality of skills

[robust holly]

They've done light balances in the past, and mixed in 2 reworks. Hoping we get some more of those sooner rather than later.
We know we'll get skill ranks around August, and then Augments at some point. Skill expression should jump a fair bit with those in

[rustic jacinth]

like classes that are underperforming and have been underperforming for the entirety of phase 2 and 2.5 should be the first ones to get some minor changes.

but overall i think everyone could use some minor number adjustments for smoother gameplay, and im not advocating oh nerf rangers or mages i dont think the solution is nerfing everyone else but buffing those that are under perfoming to bring them up to par.

as someone who plays Fighter i can speak on this as a example, Stances should not have cast time, make it instant cast like blood fusion to allow use to actually stance swap in between combos. Cata is way to long of a cast time for what it does and leap should be 1 second cast time or less since its a mobility skill.

cant even properly combo leap into rangers root into cata because cata takes 2.5 seconds to get off, 1.8 ifyou have 100 percent attack speed while leap takes 1.5 - 1.2 if you you have attack speed. and ranges root last 4 seconds lol.

[midnight surge]

Morning , what does a robot do on a one night stand

He nuts and bolts 🔩!

[spice bobcat]

I bet it takes another day or 2 before the patch happens. Today is the 3-9 lines of bug fixes

(I’m guessing)

[midnight surge]

Did yall hear about the chameleon who couldn’t change colors

[pallid burrow]

Draining poison is fine no nerfs needed

[solemn echo]

Mana drain poison is completely fair and balanced mechanic

[spice bobcat]

I think mana drain poison shouldn’t exist

[solemn echo]

[midnight surge]

He had e reptile dysfunction

[stark wolf]

only way to kill clerics sometimes 😛

[solemn echo]

It is the only way to kill clerics

I’m a cleric player I know

[midnight surge]

Need more cc’s

[stark wolf]

i use weaken poison the most but i took second poison perk only for draining poison for clerics lol

[solemn echo]

What’s dumb is there’s no counter play to it as a cleric

It’s just like oh I’m just fucking dead now great

[stark wolf]

additive dps clerics win agaist it lol :p

nothing like 2000+ dmg want combo finisher 😛

[pallid burrow]

If you're only using it on clerics you're doing it wrong

[stark wolf]

everyone else doesnt live long enough to run out of mana

i mainly do small scale pvp though

[rustic jacinth]

i think the problem is killing a cleric shouldnt be the battle of a mana bar for most classes. most certainly wasnt in archeage lol

[pallid burrow]

Tank

[stark wolf]

they die fast

[pallid burrow]

Bad tanks maybe

[stark wolf]

well it more they cant do dmg to kill me

the way i built my rogue my only weakness i have in small scale is agaist other rogues who should win

[rustic jacinth]

problem is you cant judge the classes on small scale pvp because this game is balanced and all the content in it revoles around 8+ groups and rewards them hevily for it.

which if thats going to be the direction of the game fine, but classes need to be balanced and adjusted for it with that in mind.

ffs even your loot drop rate increases for being in a raid lol

[royal tulip]

Poison isn’t an issue in group fights and therefore is fine to leave as is. It’s already been nerfed 2x

[stark wolf]

yep but i have a build that strong in small scale but probaly weaker in mid to large scale not useless though but not as good as other classes

[solemn echo]

I don’t know if you can say “well they should only balance around x type of content”

I get the idea but there’s also going to be arenas in ashes?

[rustic jacinth]

if thats the direction of the game, then that should be the baseline

[solemn echo]

Well, frankly most balaanckng needs to be around 50

[stark wolf]

devs stated before there balancing classes around a 8v8 scenario so some will excel more than other in smaller and larger scale situations

[bold cargo]

They did specify they do not balance around 1v1, or 2v2. They plan on balancing on larger group vs group.

[solemn echo]

Idc about this level 25 shit

The baselines being formulated now will not be showcased when everyone is 50

[stark wolf]

hard to balance anyhthing at this stage since no seconadarys and typical balance is focused aroudn endgame, sure we can tweak some thing that might be over the top but again it not realy the time to focus on balancing when core end game balancing features need 2 be on first

[solemn echo]

Yes

[rustic jacinth]

because if you have entire archetype that are being excluded from the majority of content and game. because their considered liabilitys. since the majority of content involves large scale and groups those classes need to be looked into and balanced around that fact.

secondary archetypes should allow for being good in small scale vs large scale but the baseline of the archetype should be balanced around groups especially since so many skills already are intended to interact with one another

[stark wolf]

are we taslking bout fighter agian

[rustic jacinth]

fighter and even rogue

[solemn echo]

Fighter is only being excluded because it has no utility in Zerg fights

[rustic jacinth]

rogue has issues in large scalle

[solemn echo]

Zerg fights literally only being 10% of the game

[stark wolf]

fighters and rogue are completely viable in large scale however you require to buiod a team for it

[solemn echo]

You’re looking at a specific instance and not tbe entirety of fighter / rogue

[stark wolf]

fighters and rogue viable when most than 60% of your side are melee fighters

problem is like 20% of a side is fighter at max with current make up

so they struggle

[solemn echo]

If you want to be useful in ZVZ then either play with a lot of rogues tanks and fighters who will all dive in with you

[hexed needle]

I feel like nearly every class has issues in large scale (if you don't play it correctly) But I'd say every class played correctly (apart from fighter) has it's place in all types of engagements

[solemn echo]

Or play other content on fighter

[rustic jacinth]

Sieges, GVG, Caravans, Farming and node wars.

The majority of which are all 8+ man and the main content in the game

Only thing isnt is lvling and the fastest way to lvl is full party lol

[solemn echo]

Grinding bosses and glint makes up 80% of the game

[stark wolf]

i still think if ur gonna stack a class for ZvZ fighter/cleric are your best options

[solemn echo]

People don’t like fighters for ZVZ

[bold cargo]

There is als othe issue that in phase 2.0 before changes to the TTK, people focused on damage builds. And armor was unable to match up.
So fighters would start thinking of approaching a fight and get 1 shot.

With the changes to TTK, I've had a lot more success. But I've yet to do large scale fighting with 2.5

[solemn echo]

Because most fighters dive in with 0 support and get wiped

[stark wolf]

cause u need alot of them for ZvZ you either all in on melee or dont bother with them at all there not much inbetween

[solemn echo]

Then throw a fit

[rustic jacinth]

grinding bosses is usually done again in a 8+ man party and being in a raid increases drop rates lol

[solemn echo]

The issue isn’t the class

It’s the support fighter needs

[stark wolf]

that being said u can build fighters and rogues to be completly fviable in range dmg with melee supporting skills

i play an almost pure range rogue atm and have majority success in fights

[solemn echo]

Like 90% of fighter PvP is literally knowing when to dive

That’s true in ANY mmo with ZVZ content as a melee class

This isn’t new

Either adapt to the play style or play a different class tbh

[hexed needle]

fighters still require considerable time inside the enemy to be effective and get a rotation or two off before disengaging. Even with the current TTK they are just not viable when you are playing against competent players

[solemn echo]

Fighters are still the best for AOE mob grinding, EXTREMELY GOOD for 1s and 8s

It’s just they struggle for ZVZ

Aka 10% of the game, if that

[hexed needle]

fighter PVE = bis true

[solemn echo]

Fighter PVE is BIS

[stark wolf]

i honostly think fighters might actualy have the potential for highest ranged dps surprisingly

[solemn echo]

Hands down

[dusty dock]

You guys should stop coping

[rustic jacinth]

thats not even why, the problem with fighter they have no real utility while rangers can not only deal more damage, but can do so safely from a distance and offer AOE roots,Cc and good party wide buffs. In most pvp MMOs melees often deal insane burst damage while having some kind of AOE CC to give them a reason to go in. Meanwhile the ranged classes are the ones doing this safely from a distance. Don't get me wrong fighters fun to use and their skills outside of cata,kick and lunge feel good to use but they lack a role and purpose They don't match the burst damage of Mages and rangers, the utility of Bards and tanks , or the survivability of Tanks and clerics

everything that fighters try to do other classes do better in pvp By alot and it is a problem.

[dusty dock]

Fighter is ass

[hexed needle]

played fighter p1 and p2 and yea fighter was always bis in PVE. Just useless in pvp content when you're against a competent enemy

[solemn echo]

Fighter is fine

[stark wolf]

fighters can offer AoE roots aswell when combined with clerics 😛 and everyone has clerics

[rustic jacinth]

fighter does not have AOE root, they have a AOE trip through cata but takes to long to get off so it cant really combo well with anything

ironically 75% of fighters issues could be fixed with some number adjusting, and i dont even mean their damage lol.

[stark wolf]

fighter charge in battle should cleric uses chains where fighter charged, congratz everyoen is rooted and then stuned if they dont get out right after the root wears off

fighter then get free rein of immobolised targets

[solemn echo]

Well ranger roots is better for that 😂

Chains is very slow

[rustic jacinth]

in archeage for blood reaver when the game went more heavy on a Large scale pvp

Blood reaver would go in, Pull everyone in a 6m radius around them, AOE stun with spear and throw a debuff decreasing everyones accuracy around them.

reavers could set up possibly raid wipes but if they misplayed they could also gimp a raid because you just gave your enemy a 40 second immunity to pulls

REavers also could die Very quickly

they delt large AOE damage and CC and had a AOE debuff

[vague eagle]

Idk, even though tanko is super geared he hit pretty hard.
Just as hard as my rogue but with better sustain.
I'm not discounting the idea that fighter could use adjustment, but they're in the same boat of rogue where large scale is not great?
Take the video of the PA rogue who is just 5.5k hp rogue just backlining and hitting shit.
Why couldn't fighter do that just as well?
Idk i think people's builds are still super linear and unga bunga.

[rustic jacinth]

rogue is better in a 1 vs 1 and has the adventage against fighter thou

Tanko rerolled to Ranger LOL

[stark wolf]

our tank rerolled to ranger too :p

[rustic jacinth]

Rogue has 1 ability that counters the fuck out of fighters tbh

[vague eagle]

Thats for tourney though.
He's a menace on a fighter.

Smoke op.

[rustic jacinth]

yup

Even incapacitate can miss

[stark wolf]

smoke got nothing on umbral cloak agaist casters :p

[rustic jacinth]

and if fighter cant hit you they cant sustain

[stark wolf]

not to mention u can smoke and cloak for like 130% magic evasion

[vague eagle]

But if they use it appropriately.
And if you have no additional accuracy while I have 2pc evasion, you're cucked.

[rustic jacinth]

which also it has been reported evasion statisnt working on fighter

[stark wolf]

smoke does have 1.5 min cooldown so if u can get them to blow it before u blodo rage or what every it called

[vague eagle]

My point being builds are still linear af.
If you go all phys and miti and I mix in 2pc eva plus my kit you ain't hitting.

But if you add 1 pc of 900 accuracy your accuracy goes up big time.

[stark wolf]

well thats cause we only have a basic newbie kit right now 😦 hopeing 25 and beyond you will see more interesting thing with secondaies with kits

[vague eagle]

Yes veesh.
I think more balancing later will come when waterfall stats past the 1st line are more prominent.

[stark wolf]

people neglect accuracy and quite often mitigation or crit advoidance type stats atm it seems

[vague eagle]

Crit chance = crit avoidance 1:1

[rustic jacinth]

the issues dont come down to builds thou it comes down to skills having functionality issues, and really fighter lacking a proper role thats for them thou

[stark wolf]

i do hope crafting changes allow for more gear stat customisation im so hoping for selecting resources and they give different stats depending on what u select 😛

see what they pull out of their asses there for crafting changes 😛

[rustic jacinth]

like their role is suppsoed to be

Their gap-closing mobility, along with their resistance to magic that can impede, control, or limit movement allows them to ramp up in power, and momentum, and keep the pressure on.``` 

They excel at basically none of this and other classes do this WAYYYYY better

unstopable offense , yet Everyone else deals more damage, gap closing mobility, yet rogue and rangers have better mobility. limit movement, yet mages and rangers do that better., etc

[stark wolf]

i would say ranger does basicly non of what their description says too tbh

rangers have mobility? :p hahaha they like the least mobile class atm hahaha

[rustic jacinth]

Ranger has the best longest root to limit mobilty and hasthe largest burst damagei n the entire game

[vague eagle]

So do you think fighters need a rework...? Or more damage...?

[rustic jacinth]

we have rangers that hit 3 - 4k damage lol

[stark wolf]

burst dmg where u get a big alert to hit dodge or block to negate it

[still patrol]

how can a Rain Jar be mobile.. they are a Jar full of Rain!

[vague eagle]

I've yet to see any clips of over 2.5k for snipe but idk

[rustic jacinth]

no i dont think fighters need more damage. i think they need better kit and utlity to give them a role appropriate for group pvp with out making them overpowered

[stark wolf]

last snipe hit me for 1.1k crit soooo yeah and that was form a purple guy who apparently si geared

[rustic jacinth]

ill break it down in a second

[stark wolf]

think the only class that has less mobility than ranger atm is probaly the cleric

[vague eagle]

Yeah i get that.
You want them to have more utility in group settings.

[stark wolf]

ull probaly get that option with secondary tbh

[vague eagle]

Yeah see I'm torn on balancing.
Balance before secondaries or balance after?

[vocal fiber]

with bunnyhop meta ranger mobility better than ever

[pseudo crest]

Before imo, get things "fixed" and solid, then add more

[stark wolf]

you always balance for end game as priority

at lower level u tweak thing to not be brokenly OP but thats bout it

[vague eagle]

Thats why I'm torn though.
With the intent that I can pick whatever subclass i want, thats too much to balance. I'd rather the base class feel good first.

[pseudo crest]

Why add more and more variables where you end up chasing your tail more

[sacred orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pheebles-pheeblesisgaming-yap-yapping-talking-gif-7653190252436462505

[scarlet elbow]

@tacit viper Do you know if the big econ patch is happening today?

[stark wolf]

also i think they shoiuld change ranger root to a skill that prevent mobility skill/dodge being used in it and dmg while walking through it, the aoe root a litttle strong in large scale and can shift class power elsewhere from that one skill

[vague eagle]

Noo dont nerf rootbots.

[stark wolf]

and maybe bring the root function back with a secondary class

[tacit viper]

There's a lot of stuff in today's update, but I wouldn't call this a "big econ patch"

[stark wolf]

so patch notes in 45 mins?

[vague eagle]

Would you say small econ?

[scarlet elbow]

I was referring to the Steven discord message, thank you brokski 🙂

[tacit viper]

Or so. Generally they're approved closer to when we unlock

[stark wolf]

i should of went to bed like 2 hours ago but now im close to patch note time i may aswell wait it out to see 😛

[barren nexus]

They'll still be here tomorrow, go to sleep

[vocal fiber]

small econ? any chance i can make burgers this weekend?

[stark wolf]

it 2am and now im wide awake from conversation sooo sleep probaly not gonna happen now anway for awhile started watchign anime :p

[vocal fiber]

all i want is a burger and the game wants 6 baby cows and 64 willow

[glad abyss]

any crafting costs changes?

[verbal tendon]

This patch was supposed to bring quite a lot of artisan changes - wdym it's not a big econ one? So we're not getting much in artisan changes again?

[stark wolf]

see if processing artisan skill tree made it cause thats probaly what will fix craftiong costs

[rustic jacinth]

so no they dont need more damage.

Easy stuff that could be done now.

-- Stances should be instant cast, so stance swaping and weaving could be a actual thing rather then cast time which is why people stay usually in 1 form 90 percent of the time

-- Cata needs 1 of two things either reduce the cast time to a second and give it a longer CD or Make it a chargeable skill that can you can let go of early to cast it early which would still allow you to combo it with other skills. which would give fighter a AOE trip utlity they can actually use. 

-- Leap is a mobility skill it should be 1 second cast time or less.

-- blitz should apply a 2 second slow so people dont just Instantly role out and out distant your melee skills all the time. IF not this then give blitz 2 charges so fighters can consistently stick to targets like their supposed to. ( keep in mind other classes have same mobility but they can keep doing damage because their ranged)``` 

``` Skill reworks, crippling blow is so useless, its range is terrible, does no damage and applys the same level of snare as a ranged weapon and is a 1 second cast time.

Lunging assault,does little damage, Eats your resource and is a waste of a skill point, tbh instead of another charge of blits, just turn this into another mobility skill

Have blood infusion heal allies for half the amount you heal your self would be a decent utlity or give allies a damage buff when you use your berserk. some people have suggested shouts but the problem is we have 1 shout and its our cc breaker.

[glad abyss]

cata is not a chargeable skill????

[rustic jacinth]

no its a cast time

and a 2.5 second cast time

[glad abyss]

get fucked

[rustic jacinth]

and isnt even our 5th hardest hitting skill

[glad abyss]

but yeah fighter dmg is good, class is ass cause no utility

[vague eagle]

I've seen feedback on the shouts.
I'd like for fighter to have a different cc break and let their shouts become utility either for themselves or later.

[stark wolf]

honsotly still dunno why stances are not instant to be honost, lunging assult still seems bad so yeah that need something tbh, i think changing it so tit stil a mini charge but it disables dodges for like 2 seconds so u can line up a knock down afterward to land a big hit with cata would work well though

[rustic jacinth]

thats a pretty good idea tbh

[verbal tendon]

5 out of 7 points are redundant - get some damn attack speed and it feels ok.

Only the stance dance really needs a rework and not to lock you into animation. Smooth gameplay/flow not stuttering please.

Lunging assault was always a niche skill - its CC immunity window is what it was used for, nothing else (it is rare to use it to gap close as it's expensive)

Cataclysm is fine as it is - hard hitting AoE with CC component which is easy met. Learn to dodge + cast it to bypass half the animation.

BF suggest change, you don't heal when you hit shields so it'll still be useless.

[stark wolf]

or does like 30 stamina dmg might be a good one too

[rustic jacinth]

at 100 percent attack speed it still isnt worth it and if you get more your sacraficing alot of damage to basically do nothing.

[verbal tendon]

100% atk.spd is literally 1 item - wdym?

Rividium Longbow gives you enough

[stark wolf]

or 1 bloodhoop

[vocal fiber]

is it known whether attack speed improves linearly?

i.e. ui shows 0.3 or 0.4 but internally its 0.360m etc etc

or do we have to aim for AS breakpoints

[stark wolf]

it goes into decimals i beleive

i can tell u shortbows hit 0.2 seconds at 124.3 AS or something liek that haha

[leaden chasm]

Lol… 64 willow in your burger. That is a lot of timber for a consumable item. Lots of fiber.

[verbal tendon]

Fighter's issues are not his damaging abilities.

It's the broken momentum system, stances breaking the flow of combat, overloaded Battle Cry ability, lack of group utility.

[stark wolf]

0.3% at like 84% AS i think too

[rustic jacinth]

again with 100 percent attack speed it isnt worth it to go past that and doesnt fix the issues of the class. because cata still takes to long to get off basiccally instead of 2,5 its 1.8

[verbal tendon]

Atk.spd DR starts at around 115-118% - after that it DRs massively

[stark wolf]

attack speed should reduce cataclysm cast time though so there that (it does with ranger snipe) so im assumign it same with cata

[vague eagle]

How much does momentum give you guys?

[stark wolf]

yeah it insane around the 125% mark althoguh class skills ike the 15% from red stance doesnt get effected by DR

[vocal fiber]

does 100% AS truly feel like 11% dps increase over 90%?

[midnight surge]

https://tenor.com/view/get-ranched-get-ranched-noob-gif-21419207

[rustic jacinth]

we agree its not fighters damage its lack of group utlity being able to get cata off sooner such as a charge that can be popped early would allow them to actually AOE trip effectively andthat lone would be a way better spot for them along with stances being instant cast

[verbal tendon]

It is literally 1s cast time when you roll cast it to conceal half the animation and with 100% atk.spd.

[vague eagle]

WOO ANIMATION CANCELS

[rustic jacinth]

its 1.8 second with 100 percent attack speed

[stark wolf]

now i wish my ability would cancel my shortbow finisher combo but that to much to ask for haha trying to kick or sap and bow be like naaa im more important ;p

short bow go brrrrr an gives no shit about important button rpesses for skills

[verbal tendon]

Inb4 they give Leap a trip

[stark wolf]

whats that u wanted to kick to interupt the giant heal naaaa i go pew pew brrrrr lol

[vocal fiber]

wheres the AoC version of fight club

wtb dps sims

[rustic jacinth]

idk i dont think leap should trip lol

[verbal tendon]

Tanks apply AoE stagger, you're gimping and suiciding if you depend on leap for aoe stagger

[stark wolf]

were not allowed it no bare hand fighting 😦 intrepid says no

[vocal fiber]

in this context its a discord for special needs warrior parse cheesers in world of warcraft

[stark wolf]

fighters get some insane synergy with other classes but it does make it harder to use but it devistating when they are used togteher

[vague eagle]

Kinda making me want to roll a fighter to see how rough it is..

[verbal tendon]

Don't bring 100v100 - game can't handle that. Don't see that as PvP atm - just mindless body throwing.

[stark wolf]

pretty sure shortbows are like instant 100 momentum since it based off per attack

[rustic jacinth]

it isnt when it takes that long to go off and does 1k damage at best, and can only trip if the targets staggered and everyone can just casually walk away from it.

meanwhile something like a snipe can hit for 3k+ for the same charge From a distant

[sacred orchid]

The one 2 good cata uses i has this phase was on lighthouse where i casted it midair and dropped on 4 people lol

[glad abyss]

thats pretty cool

[rustic jacinth]

the default time for the skill doesnt jusitfy it for what it does esepcailly compared to other classes

[sacred orchid]

Dmg and range good cast time is
ye sadly didnt record that

Would be cool if you could start casting it mid leap

[verbal tendon]

It does plenty mate - does too much even for a single press. What other class can nuke a group and trip them with 1 button?

[sacred orchid]

Or need a summoner be able to launch you on a big golem or something

[verbal tendon]

Same with cata. Blitz -> overpower -> sleep -> cata.

[rustic jacinth]

its not even a nuke LOL 🤣

and the trip takes way to long to get off and in order to trip it requires a aoe stagger.

[verbal tendon]

P2 pre-TTK changes I've hit up to 5k aoe with it.
P2 after TTK changes I was still hitting for 2k+ crits with it.

[sacred orchid]

Maim does almost same damage as cata

[rustic jacinth]

since your using rividium long bow. what is your mainhand DD for crit?

[verbal tendon]

I'm using that one now on my tank - my P2 fighter was extremely decked out (3-4k gold worth of gear). Rerolled Tank since we banned fighters from our guild.

[sacred orchid]

[rustic jacinth]

you just walked into my point tackled it face first LOL

[verbal tendon]

Had a leg rividium greatsword though - to asnwer your question.

[rustic jacinth]

XD

[ruby igloo]

fuck

[glad abyss]

yoooo

.11 today??

[ruby igloo]

seems like

cuz of 2 hours delay

[warm swallow]

Thanks for the timely notice

[glad abyss]

only need 2 hours to save the game

[dusty pecan]

Surely server will be up at 9

[amber summit]

0.11 lets go

[dusty pecan]

Im coming to collect those 10g btw

[glad abyss]

FUCK I LOST TO LEXICAT

[stark wolf]

0.11 patch be like
Fixed X skill
Fixed arrow storm

that is all have fun :p

[amber summit]

https://tenor.com/view/itslikethat-angry-cocky-gif-4220171589065346737

[stark wolf]

to be fair ive been waiting for an arrowstorm fix since P1 soooo that be a nice fix if it happened

[rustic jacinth]

sick server up at 3pm 1 hour before i have to leave for work today XD

[supple lodge]

great got to wait even longer i just put the kid for a nap

[rustic jacinth]

i felt that 💀

[sacred orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-no-skill-skill-massive-l-gif-1772992733160300208

[supple lodge]

Ig ill be playing duos RIP

[ashen glen]

just dont go to work. problem solved

[still patrol]

work is hard... but someone has to take all these naps!

[velvet cave]

I feel that. The effort to time that just right, that sweet window of...blissful silence... hope they have a good one!

[spice bobcat]

I was wrong .11 today

[kind terrace]

Not this week from what I've seen

[rustic jacinth]

yea ... i cant do that with my job LOL

[thin berry]

Maybe we will get the bard buff we deserve.

[kind terrace]

To play MMO properly, you need:

• Quit your job
• Give up your social life
• Divorce/break up with your partner

P.S. If you have pets - you must still take care of them or... or I will find you

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

[still patrol]

can you just play games for job? 👀 then can keep other stuff as well?

[buoyant apex]

what if i have a pet rock?

[kind terrace]

Rules are rules!

[kind terrace]

Hmm....

[still patrol]

If partner and social life people also play games... is perfect!

[sacred orchid]

Ofc you can just sell gold for money

[still patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-banhammer-ban-hammer-mod-gif-458944485492049902

[supple lodge]

Is there a holding pee time requirement?

[crystal trail]

nah just go really really fast

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-hahaha-run-running-running-away-gif-14097702707561656636

[buoyant apex]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[rustic jacinth]

my kid then my cats come first
my job funds my expensive hobbies, the only shit part is if i get mandated and my 8 hour shift turns into a 16 or more

longest shift i had to work was 32 and a half hours straight. Those were some really bad days Lmfao

[kind terrace]

Wondering what kind of work is that. Are you a nurse or a doctor?

[sacred orchid]

Illegal in most eu contries

[midnight surge]

You have kids ? Is it like that show the guild , the big chick puts them behind the baby fence to play wow

[sacred orchid]

With execptions ofc

[midnight surge]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxvgKtEICRyExdVUZU36UwlMToxfwBCjQs?si=LCkSIIoeoy5UBZL1

[rustic jacinth]

Psychiatric nurse

[haughty galleon]

Work+MMOs takes up like 99% of my time.

[rustic jacinth]

its like dealing with ashes players in real life

[kind terrace]

Omg that is actually cool

Any therapy discounts for those who suffered from the actions of your fellow guildies?

[sacred orchid]

No, what you gonna do? Flee to my country

[waxen matrix]

I am working in HR - it sometimes feels like I should be a psychiatric nurse

[kind terrace]

I'd rather flee to North Korea than be within a 1000 miles range from you

[desert latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-jongun-supreme-leader-of-north-korea-waving-smile-gif-15715187

[rustic jacinth]

No, Lol just no most people cant handle working in mental hospitals and dealing with mental disabilities

[supple lodge]

so is it fursure 2 hours or can i hope for sooner

[vocal fiber]

prepare for the worst pray for the best

[sacred orchid]

No you wouldt, you wouldt even leave here

Like the rest

[hexed needle]

WTB Djinnmagi's Folly!!!!!!! Please, it's been 3 weeks with no sceptre 😢

[sacred orchid]

Actual premium life

[haughty galleon]

It's time to swipe the credit card.

[hexed needle]

I'm actually scared for someone to give me a price for one haha

[haughty galleon]

Blood Hoop is 300 USD

I used to play an MMO called Cabal Online where 3 people would play the same account/character and just funnel like 3k USD a month to get the character as strong as possible.

[vague eagle]

Someone said a fuckin pair of brine breeches was 200.
Like tf

Like if thats the case, I got a guy who just dumped his gear on me while he's on vacation.
5k usd for it.
Fuc outta here.

[sleek knot]

https://x.com/CrixVibez/status/1928138040662225236

Crix (@CrixVibez)

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X · May 29, 2025, 5:15 PM

I'll be running a completely legal house betting system and taking all bets for teams. Let's make some money on the side while screaming.

[vocal fiber]

Aoc fantasy league when?

[ruby igloo]

If not more lol

You rarely see it on the market/trade

[sacred orchid]

Matchfixing lets go 🔥

[solemn echo]

It’s because it’s bis and there’s no point to sell if you need it

[ruby igloo]

You can farm it multiple times you know

[solemn echo]

Every single person needs it.

[ruby igloo]

It’s not unique drop

[solemn echo]

Both phys and magic

[ruby igloo]

Yes I know that

[solemn echo]

Yes you can sit there and farm for sale but pretty much everyone in every guild needs it

[sleek knot]

No matches are fixed

Bum

[haughty galleon]

Can't wait to lose my life savings in this tourney 🔥

[sacred orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribbian-funny-stare-wink-gif-20597720

Already dm crix and have my crypto wallet ready

[sleek knot]

Im trying to figure out how to DDOS the server on an important match, so the house wins it all

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-austin-powers-austinpowers-austin-powers-movie-austin-powers-movies-gif-14106239698425330199

[chrome jasper]

Sound like ROT

[still patrol]

👀

[sacred orchid]

Does crashing server worker counts too

[dusty pecan]

Just get you whole Guild to Spawn caravans at once

[sleek knot]

I kid

[amber summit]

Patch is up fellas

[coarse star]

@frozen lion unmute me you gigantic female reproductive organ

[ruby igloo]

big ass patch

[supple lodge]

Download has begun

[coarse star]

@untold canopy pathetic

[rustic jacinth]

games done patching, can yall post patch notes so i can read what i just patched LOL

[sacred orchid]

Nothing but uploaded your online data, steven got you now

[frozen lion]

I love how you auto assume it was me, LOL. Good reach though.

[coarse star]

You are responsible for the actions of your peers

So yes, it was you

[glad abyss]

[rustic cloak]

can't believe they made the game worse again 😔

[full marsh]

waiting for a patch that makes me want to login to the game

[hallow bridge]

Some people will never get updates that make them wanna log in 😔

[vague eagle]

So tropics pvp only now huh.

[full marsh]

god i cant wait to train basilisks onto people

[primal rain]

bruh

[hallow bridge]

I’d 100% flag up in non lawless but all the gold sellers do is corruption bait with mounts

So it’s not worth it

[full marsh]

im about to have a pet basilisk running around to say hi to everyone

[primal rain]

the only good zone

on the map

ruined

[coarse star]

They buffed speed hacking? Wtf

[hallow bridge]

Jundark was announced it was going non lawless at the end of this month like 2 months ago

Idk why people are surprised but it does suck

[frozen lion]

So everyone else in that channel is responsible for your slurs?

[vague eagle]

Maybe we expected that to get pushed a week out too.

[frozen lion]

And not you?

[coarse star]

Those aren't my peers

[frozen lion]

They're regular members of the discord, making you a peer

[coarse star]

Nope

[sacred orchid]

fighting for names with 1 hr spawntime sure will be fun

[coarse star]

I also didn't slur. Nobody was targeted by my words

[sacred orchid]

and by fighting i mean dps race and not actual fighting

[hallow bridge]

What are you doing, fighting only Bellowsmasher?

I guess Bloomthorn and Blood Hoop also apply, most timers aren’t an hour though thank god

[hexed needle]

Jundark actually not a lawless zone anymore?

cringe

[rustic cloak]

wait until u find out all the jundark pocket dungeons are now locked 8)

[sacred orchid]

wait til p3 angle

[vague eagle]

Give me new dungeon to do.

[flint pier]

Omg now that's funny

[patent junco]

RIP my Jundark PvP

[hexed needle]

worst patch update so far

[vague eagle]

This is just intrepid weeding out the week.
Everyone who keeps testing during the "embrace the suck" phase get PTR and exclusive superman skins to go with speed vans.

[thin berry]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-gif-3746287728568117387

Jundark was my main content!!

[hexed needle]

guess I'm spending my days on a boat in tropics

[sacred orchid]

thats pretty funny ngl

even items are censored

[stiff ibex]

our caravans are gone ....

[full marsh]

wym

[stiff ibex]

the jundark trading post is gone

[haughty galleon]

Send inv

[stiff ibex]

so our vans are gone

[patent junco]

I’m so sad. I don’t even have a ship

[hexed needle]

we be pirates from today onwards

[full marsh]

LOL

[stiff ibex]

apperently vans are missing from turqoise sea as well

idk

[rustic cloak]

LOL

[stiff ibex]

i havent checked mine yet but sounds like alot of peoples vans are

possible they return if node levels

[rustic cloak]

u think intrepid will ever learn

[robust holly]

I have a sneaking suspicious the jundark trading post was copied code as it also applies Lawless bonus, so deleting one probably just accidentally deleted other

[rotund solar]

is tropics still pvp?

[stiff ibex]

you mean jundarks?

[hexed needle]

I think open sea is still pvp so yea kinda

[tight sail]

Wheres my crafting changes

[glad abyss]

caravan runners

[patent junco]

Pve game

[glad abyss]

[rotund solar]

haha so u saying ppl gotta out pve tag blood hoop?

[hallow bridge]

Blood Hoop is technically an Island

Is it non lawless

[tight sail]

Jundark shouldve stayed pvp except for radius around towns imo

[rotund solar]

so hawk bow is pve now?

[hexed needle]

yup

cringe

[rotund solar]

damn that was good action area to roam

[tight sail]

Hey you still have off hand island

[hallow bridge]

Yes

It was always gonna be

[hexed needle]

one of my fav places to go to. my fun in this game got heavy nurfed

[thin berry]

My guild lived at hawk bow. It was our pvp home.

[patent junco]

Same, was my home too

[rotund solar]

well now its pve tag fight + still farming for 5+ hours for 0-1 drops

hugeeee patch good shit guys

matter of fact

4-day weekend pack it up, lets go celebrate

[prime panther]

are yall serious bro

this update…

[rotund solar]

https://tenor.com/view/my-boy-massacred-godfather-marlan-brando-look-gif-13993325

[prime panther]

how was everything that was fine changed

and then the worst parts ignored

[hallow bridge]

Artisan players sad because recipes are broken, pvp players sad because limited pvp

Embrace it y’all

[heady plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[drowsy scarab]

If I'm personally understanding this right, these features are temporarily disabled, based on what I'm reading via #alpha-two-news

[pine grail]

Demage display fucked

To many number's that I don't understand

[haughty galleon]

AoC classic release when?

[pine grail]

And can we Turn off the ! for cirt?

[haughty galleon]

AoC retail ain't it chief.

[heady plume]

AoC Beach episode

[torpid hill]

yeah the ! is not it

but resist + immune and the yellow coloring is great

[hallow bridge]

Those scrolls were removed from vendors 6 weeks ago, that known issues tag has been applicable since then. Temporarily can easily mean “until phase 3” as we have 1 type of guild war dec that costs 22 gold and only lasts for 100 kills. We used to be able to declare wars lasting 250-500 kills for 6 gold.

[pine grail]

Ye but why I can see people effects from 50M in the dungeon?

The I know that there is someone already farming

[torpid hill]

yeah that's not good

[prime panther]

exactly

gimme aoc classic

from end of p2

[hallow bridge]

TTK changes by all measures was a success

[prime panther]

yeah

classic

is right after ttk changes

Before boss drops got fucked

[hallow bridge]

I just want ways to pvp with those changes

[prime panther]

And artisan got fucked

and jun was still lawless

[glad abyss]

fr

aoc retail is ass

[haughty galleon]

Cant wait for AoC Token

[hallow bridge]

Kids were complaining too much about gathering nodes needing a change so we had a half cooked artisan update that fucked the game up

[heady plume]

Alpha 3 when?

[hallow bridge]

@ node owners why are you all pussies and not declaring node wars

1 month in and no node wars is lame

[haughty galleon]

Say please.

[solemn oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-sparrow-smiles-johnny-depp-gif-3829357382943597812

[vague eagle]

Please tell me where the next node war is so I can go play fuck fuck games and actually pvp without being corruption baited by gold farmers!

[hallow bridge]

Caravans are the only pvp safe haven now

[vague eagle]

I just want to see what my guildies gear does!

[lost patrol]

Even these aren't 100% safe

[hallow bridge]

I’ve never seen an issue but show me a clip if that’s wrong

Except for the whole killing someone as the event ends thing

[lost patrol]

No clips but people can leave events when they're about to die

ye

[hallow bridge]

Yeah… that one sucks but its way less common

[lost patrol]

Caravans are probably the closest to pvp safe haven aside from node wars and the ocean

[hallow bridge]

i might’ve deleted it when clearing out my folder rip

kids getting mounts to 1 hp to corruption bait pvp fights at bosses

[lost patrol]

when's the corruption nerfs

🙏

[prime panther]

🙏

we want lawless

[hallow bridge]

My favorite bit of lore is corruption being tuned up because asmongold got griefed and now we’re stuck with it 6 months later

[hollow kettle]

yo Polar is this your GM? https://www.dexerto.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-classic-players-caught-match-fixing-in-50k-league-1174730/

[hallow bridge]

never seen this before is this real

[lost patrol]

tbf it was overpowered before asmongold got here

[hollow kettle]

its wild if it is cause they are hosting a tournament in ashes

[hallow bridge]

Looks like AI generated content to me

[lost patrol]

then a couple hours of griefing at the gateway aaaaand....

[hallow bridge]

Now we lose 3 items instantly GG no re

[lost patrol]

love how it says 1-3 and max rolls everytime x_x

nah, everyone just lives on boats now

[prime panther]

fr

[stable egret]

https://tenor.com/view/patchy-the-pirate-spongebob-nicktoons-bubble-gif-16721653095778971199

[haughty galleon]

I mean what is there to do aside from camping a boss spawn to get one drop every 10 hours 💀

[lost patrol]

Run around attacking people until they fight back

[haughty galleon]

I aint flagging up for no bosses to get corruption baited for the third time.

[lost patrol]

because we all know the majority of players dont flag on this server

[prime panther]

give us pvp again

[gentle leaf]

It is probably all temporary, they are trying to balance PvE progression. Temporarily PvP is in the way. This kind of Agile testing is going to make everyone manic-depressives. Just hang in there, chill and help, even when your desired content isn't the priority.

[lost patrol]

Bro even when people have more numbers they just choose to stay unflagged

[pine grail]

Nameplates and Demage very bad !

[lost patrol]

There's nothing the opposing party can do unless they have a war dec in their pocket

[thin berry]

New nodes are nice, just allow us to live in a pvp region, just not in the city.

[lost patrol]

Tbh the zone laws should be set by the mayor of the zoi

You want your node to be lawless? check the box

[untold canopy]

thats been linked in here like 400 times 😛 Its a legit article but i think theres a follow up article as well

[thin berry]

Only 1 every 18 hours and it's 20g each.

[hollow kettle]

wheres the follow up?

[lost patrol]

More people would do caravans if the economy wasnt ruined by RMT

Why run a caravan which has a massive time investment and risk when you can sell a piece of gear for 100g or more

[gentle leaf]

It is coming, I think that is the intent for lawless zones castles, 5 per server.

[thin berry]

Economy is bad rn. Gold is useless. I can sell one earring for 500g. Wtf.

[plain vault]

More people would be willing to flag over bosses if white mounts dying only made you purple instead of red

[lost patrol]

Mounts sending you straight to corruption II is evil ngl

[haughty galleon]

Ive been corrupted twice over named mob and world boss, I think ill pass on flagging until the corruption system gets updated.

[lost patrol]

Let me get an arena with a leaderboard, equalized gear, and a small entry fee. I'll camp there all day throwing hands and be perfectly content

[gentle leaf]

Not adhering to the risk/reward pillar. Failure should be zero gain, not negative gain.

[hollow kettle]

yea thats how i feel too. like im being told pvp is bad so now im like only flagging up in lawless

[dawn dagger]

this patch hits

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[dreamy swan]

so

tumok is bugged

[gentle leaf]

Going to make balancing artisanship tough. I think they will have to make the cart price part of the reward calculation, allow the cart runner to salvage some value from the destroyed cart, or reduce the mats needed to make a cart - possibly all 3.

[quaint fractal]

new intrepid method is to turn off legit every single aspect of content.

[untold veldt]

Go sit in water for PvP now 🤣

[ruby igloo]

Inb4 hawk bow will cost 20g overnight

[gentle leaf]

Yeah that is kind of in the spirit of salvage, you got my drift.

[heady plume]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-gif-19153078

[gentle leaf]

They will, it isn't the worlds hardest fix, they just have other priorities right now. They have the feedback for caravans for this phase. Probably already in place waiting for phase 3.

Unfortunately, this is using Agile methodology, which is so not that.

[heady pawn]

All I know is that I love america

[crisp cloak]

You can't handle real pvp like this https://youtu.be/4OJ0dCmqIgA?si=YwZFX73-t6GnMz9K

[gentle leaf]

Shol is global now. "Imagine all the people, living life as one, Oh-oh" 🎶

[lost patrol]

That's one of the most thrilling tank PvP videos I've ever seen

[gritty rapids]

Did they somehow make aoc worse again

[haughty galleon]

Only good change was target of target working now.

[crisp cloak]

you just cannot handle the true power and skill required for AOC pvp

[haughty galleon]

Oh I lied block mit and heartseeker were good too

[crisp cloak]

its ok ill make you a guide if you want

[lost patrol]

You'll lose in PvP the same way you lost the mayorship last phase 8)

[crisp cloak]

you are rude

you are no BB of mine

[sacred orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/guess-dog-gif-5789210

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-anchorman-ben-stiller-nodding-gif-4470090

[heady plume]

The most gas PFP’s out of everyone here

[sacred orchid]

turmok has hands now though thats a crazy change

[pallid burrow]

bottom one is superior

[lost patrol]

BOB YOU TAKE THAT BACK

I WILL FIND YOU

[haughty galleon]

Tommy is the 🐐

[crisp cloak]

tommy ruined power rangers

[heady plume]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

[crisp cloak]

tommy fans are scum

im a ranger fan

not a tommy fan

sabba is trash

dragonzord is mid

[heady plume]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17349365856782341010

[crisp cloak]

Jason > Tommy

[haughty galleon]

Jason crumbled from Tommy's aura. Took his girl and his job.

Billy is the unsung hero.

[pallid burrow]

Goldar was the real goat

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-goldar-laughing-out-loud-lmao-gif-18152080

[haughty galleon]

Goldar from the live action like 7 years ago or something was so wack

[patent junco]

https://tenor.com/view/really-you-dont-say-power-rangers-ivan-ooze-gif-16171196

[pallid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-ivan-ooze-creepy-syrup-gif-17773314

[heady plume]

Me & the LOML

[untold canopy]

Which one are you tho

[heady plume]

Dude mf’s turned him into an Elden Ring boss for what?!

[heady plume]

The one on the right obviously

[solemn oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-magna-defender-i-was-wondering-when-youd-show-up-to-annoy-me-annoy-me-gif-26432656

this dude is the real goat of power rangers

[pine grail]

Want your opinion on this gameplay loop ⁠https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1377757137844965376

[sacred orchid]

Id give my left nut if they would just copy that system

Packs good flagging good life going to jail good

[rustic jacinth]

Took the crime point system from Archeage and instead of adding in jail, and fun mechanics they just made corruption instead 😂 could legit turn the corruption system into archeages wanted system

[sacred orchid]

Imagine having nice things

[silver flax]

Game screen on left. Tv streaming it on right.

[stray idol]

Sir, your screen is damaged

[ashen glen]

looks like a bob ross painting

[dawn dagger]

all the AA systems you'd think would be in this game, aren't, probably because Steven had a bad experience with them.

tail=jail

[ashen glen]

jail was stupid imo

[sacred orchid]

157x better than losing your gear lmao

[amber star]

[stable sigil]

Action mode is broken so bad