alpha-two-shol-us

[haughty galleon]

Keep yourself safe

[granite lichen]

we just skip to beta 2

thoughts?

[gritty rapids]

nope

squad up for beta 1

[granite lichen]

what about launch

[gritty rapids]

I have to kill Miruku to claim #1 rogue title

[quaint fractal]

Whatever brings archetypes and pvp performance stability at scale. I'd love to mage tank for a leveling group

[trail brook]

is there any value in selling herbs? Or is it better to spend my time grinding mobs?

[haughty galleon]

Mage + Tank secondary should give mage shield 80% mit.

[shut fossil]

The crafting cost for ANYTHING to kick start the economy is so abhorrently fucked the barrier to entry is so high it's not even funny. Mixed in with some silly speed hacking and other tom foolery of caravans caused gold costs of sought after items which are only sought after to such a degree because at the same time they shafted crafting costs they decided to drop a sun on named drop rates, combined with the rmt and Chinese ftl caravans gold costs absolutely went out of control.

If i don't laugh ill cry

[granite lichen]

[gritty rapids]

but are u having fun

that's what's important

🙂

[haughty galleon]

Shout out china.

[granite lichen]

idk XiaoShen with the automatic extended mag on their shortbow

just building attack speed or something

idk

[haughty galleon]

I'm forced to play against my will or my guild punishes me.

[shut fossil]

Big up my man Fatbibi and his gattling gun spell book sponsored by a titanium brick on his left click

[granite lichen]

honestly skill issue as a rogue you can't lock him down

[trail brook]

BUt like... I just wanna cut flower and fish. (i know fish is useless rn besides for fuel unless they added more uses)

Is there a spot in the community for me that can earn a profit?

[granite lichen]

he only has 600% movement speed

[quaint fractal]

There is no stopping the Chinese Carvan army. Honestly feels like they need to nerf the hell out of carcans anyways. the amount of raw gold being printed naturally and legit is way too high just from my own guild data

[haughty galleon]

Fatbibi is the best content of P2.5

[shut fossil]

We managed to get him down once because I acrod and smoked him

[granite lichen]

just delete caravans entirely

[trail brook]

I think caravans should transport actual items from storages. Then they must be sold.

[granite lichen]

Iremember seeing someone kill Bobo early on

and got like 28g

from it

[shut fossil]

Died in the smoke and dropped so much willow and dragon tree it took 4 of us to carry it

[quaint fractal]

But at the same time the gold sinks are incredibly taxing. 1k sieges. 22gold 100 person wars

[shut fossil]

And enough glint to buy a Balkan countries army

[haughty galleon]

I avoid attacking any chinese players in case they wanna one shot me like they do the 50k 3 star mobs.

[granite lichen]

I do feel bad for the legit SEA / chinese guilds

[trail brook]

Kinda worth for the report though? If you can clip it too

[proven jungle]

50 speedhackers every time I enter jundark
easy anticheat still checks my tax returns from 2019 every time I launch the game
No yeah overall im happy with my purchase of course

[worthy igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-house-on-fire-dog-flames-cute-gif-16564413

[haughty galleon]

I've sent quite a few clips of the mach 5 chinese caravans. I'll play it safe with my glint lol.

[quaint fractal]

Just send the kernel anti cheat

[granite lichen]

have you seen the new wave of bullshit they're doing

[ruby igloo]

Who won the siege?

[granite lichen]

polar

[proven jungle]

This IS the kernel anticheat my dog

[quaint fractal]

Take all our info stop the rampant cheating. Only the committed will break theough

[trail brook]

TBF i'm happy with the purchase since i find 100 or so dollars for the amount of time I had fun not that bad. Red lobster for the family is about that much lol.

However I would still be dissapointed in Intrepid if they don't stick the landing.

[granite lichen]

I saw a video of a group that had 4 caravans ontop of 1

[haughty galleon]

Can't wait for the Tesla Neurolink anti-cheat to come out

[granite lichen]

and hte 1 driver was going mach 9

[gritty rapids]

The fact that Chinese botters are paying for alpha access to cheat and its lucrative enough to do that is wild

[granite lichen]

I mean

[quaint fractal]

I've been seeing non-caravan speed hackers a lot now too

[granite lichen]

it's just a testing ground for launch

[gritty rapids]

if you have friends you know are buying gold, expose them, they deserve it

[granite lichen]

they have like

9 fuckin years

[primal rain]

does korea attach your like id number to your online game accounts?

[quaint fractal]

Just zooming by at mock speed

[trail brook]

My anticheat would be installing an airbag inside the Moniter and it goes off if it detects cheating.

[granite lichen]

to develop their cheats

[primal rain]

i swear that was a thing

do that

[granite lichen]

it is a thing

[primal rain]

full 1984 me

im down

[granite lichen]

if you want to sign up to websites in korea, you need your government ID

[gritty rapids]

yah but I mean, they're rebuying accounts when banned too because they make enough profit to justify it

in an alpha

lol

[granite lichen]

it's why it's really hard to play korean games as a foreigner

[haughty galleon]

Yeah I mean the only way to stop it is for idiots to not buy gold so the chinese don't make profit and they move on to the next mmo.

[granite lichen]

unless you buy acces to someones account

[granite lichen]

but also this

[proven jungle]

“Just use something even more invasive, like vanguard!”
faker is literally 1v9ing against two scripters on stream rn as his manager makes the call to get them banned

[quaint fractal]

NA only servers sorry

[granite lichen]

who on earth is buying so much money

in an alpha

[quaint fractal]

Must show driver license

[granite lichen]

[gritty rapids]

yah who

[haughty galleon]

They do.

[granite lichen]

oh

the suns coming up

[proven jungle]

Yeah you would be finished my friend

[granite lichen]

fuckin node siege

[gritty rapids]

Korea attaches what is essentially your SSN to your online profile yes

so if you get banned for cheating its essentially a permanent record xd

[quaint fractal]

Yes do this

[primal rain]

100%

[proven jungle]

NO MY IN GAME CHAT WHISPERS THO

[gritty rapids]

Most of the world doesn't take vidya games seriously enough to do that unfortunately

[granite lichen]

AoC KR server when?

[quaint fractal]

Vhalken I watched yinming run 450 caravans today

[gritty rapids]

Tbf

[quaint fractal]

Where do they even store the gold

[gritty rapids]

I have a feeling all of us currently in this chat would be banned

[quaint fractal]

These guys are pumping out ashes accounts tbh

[granite lichen]

in polars coffers

[gritty rapids]

POLAR CONFIRMED CHEATING AGAIN?

[granite lichen]

honestly

i was doing steelbloom earlier

and i had a guy begging for my instagram

[proven jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1318053824887394314/1375653385964880002/MedalTVAshesofCreation20250523184844-1748051422.mp4?ex=68351b8d&is=6833ca0d&hm=9982b5dc87e226d259347358aa1bf3eb82fe1b0b97af2e452a05ba6e495f5219&

[granite lichen]

can we HWID ban them

specifically

[gritty rapids]

bros just shooting his shot

[granite lichen]

"he's not cheating"

[quaint fractal]

The comms are gold

[granite lichen]

So what i'm hearing is that

[proven jungle]

The fact I just guessed he was hacking because he’s Chinese and he hits the NOS in front of us is too much

[granite lichen]

Performances like that is standard for purple

and as such

it's why they don't think they're cheating

[torpid bone]

lol i killed this exact guy and reported him 2 days ago

[granite lichen]

purple leaked internal comms confirming speedhackers????

[proven jungle]

He’s talking about the gilded gaming guy they’re currently mugging but yea

[granite lichen]

oh I know

but shitpostingis funny

[proven jungle]

[granite lichen]

[sacred orchid]

Topxi finest

[granite lichen]

also i saw someone talk about albion

how is that game

it's always been one I've looked at

[gritty rapids]

Great, I've heard

[granite lichen]

but it always looked like if you're not in a massive zerg

you're just not having fun

[proven jungle]

There’s no albion man

If ashes crumbles everyone in this chat needs to finally get a job

No more mmo hopping

ITS OVER

[granite lichen]

i'll develop my own

[proven jungle]

Oh jeez I better not miss the PI window this time

[vernal grotto]

I'm having 144fps stable in sieges with a 4 years old pc, may wanna consider some upgrades

The only thing I upgraded recently was a new cpu

[granite lichen]

what cpu/ran do you have?

[lilac cliff]

if ashes crumbles im throwing my pc into the ocean and giving up on video games all together

this is my last hope for this wack ass shit

[vernal grotto]

9800x3d cpu, dunno about the ram

cheap ram

[granite lichen]

this was my gameplay at one point

[vernal grotto]

Ya, really need PC upgrades x.x

Ashes runs better than throne and liberty for me

Can't really blame the game too much

[granite lichen]

yeah Iknow it's a hardware issue

I just don't know which piece of hardware

is the problem

[gritty rapids]

what're ur specs

[granite lichen]

it's likely my RAM

[vernal grotto]

x3d cpu is amazing

[gritty rapids]

okay so what're ur specs

[granite lichen]

I have rtx 3080, i7 12700k

lemme find my ram

[gritty rapids]

dxdiag

[vernal grotto]

throw away that intel cpu

[gritty rapids]

nah I have intel cpu and I run ashes and tnl just fine

[vernal grotto]

Mine runs better than peoples games with the newest intel cpus

[gritty rapids]

Mines an i7 8700k sooo lol

[granite lichen]

it doesn't have RAM speeds

i forgor where i can see that

[gritty rapids]

Only 16 gigs of ram?

[granite lichen]

yeah

[gritty rapids]

Yeah that's part of the problem

[vernal grotto]

Ya, get 9800x3d+ and 64 ram

[gritty rapids]

64 is overkill still imo, but you should upgrade to 32

[vernal grotto]

There is a difference between 32 and 64 in ashes cuz of the memoryleak

I know a few people who upgraded from 32 to 64 and said they got big improvements in ashes

[granite lichen]

[gritty rapids]

Yeah I can see that, I'm just saying I don't think its necessary. Its not bad to have, but not a requirement, basically

[vernal grotto]

32 is enough if you play full polished tripple A games

[granite lichen]

im ngl to you

[gritty rapids]

With 64 gigs you basically go "memory leak who?" to any game

[granite lichen]

Most of the games I play

[sacred orchid]

Yea my 64g is fighting memory leak pretty well

[granite lichen]

are older than I am

[vernal grotto]

Not really, you still have to restart after traveling across the map

[gritty rapids]

I haven't played Ashes in awhile so I'll take your word for that, I've never had to restart from a memory leak otherwise

[granite lichen]

anyone got any suggestions for RAM

ill just grab 32gb ddr5

[gritty rapids]

uhhh I just use Corsair Vengeance sticks

I assume Corsair is still just fine

[granite lichen]

yeah

oh

I need a new motherboard also

mine doesn have ddr5 support

[gritty rapids]

I didn't check your video, but uhh

[sacred orchid]

Just get a new pc

[gritty rapids]

Is your PC overheating?

[granite lichen]

no

At peak its like

65 degrees

aka 150f

[gritty rapids]

okay yeah that's nothing

[granite lichen]

this is the last thing i saw

before my GPU crashed

all my inputs locked up

and I couldn'tdo anything

it happens often in steelbloom, but I don't usually crash because of it

I remember seeing this years ago, but idk if it's real

for 32gb, is 4x8 better or 2x16?

[gritty rapids]

2x16s

Means you can put in more later if you want

Should likely wait for someone else's input however, I built my PC 6+ years ago

[sacred orchid]

Idk if it applys to intel cpu but having 4x 16 is not good apperently too unstable

I just got 2x 32gb

[shut fossil]

2x16 is solid and quad channel dimms are not exactly stable especially on some DDR5 speed specs even with a solid mobo.

[granite lichen]

[still patrol]

2x16 will usually work out better in most cases

[granite lichen]

and if I recall, some shit like

rather than slot 1 & 3

you do 2 & 4

[still patrol]

is DDR 4 am guessing?

[granite lichen]

if I want to upgrade my motherboard

it'd be ddr5

[shut fossil]

Depends mobo but generally 2 and 4 yes

[granite lichen]

if not, ddr4

[still patrol]

on DDR 5 do 2 16 yes

[granite lichen]

I'm just gauging it as

how lazy do i wanna be

if i wanna take out my entire mobo

or not

[sacred orchid]

Depends on motherboard check handbook, usually yes

[granite lichen]

my motherboard is discontuined

[still patrol]

Ryzen?

[granite lichen]

ill try to find a copy online

[still patrol]

hopefully hehe

[granite lichen]

no I use intel

i7-12700k

[sacred orchid]

You find handbook online

[still patrol]

am sorry for your loss

[sacred orchid]

Shureley

[granite lichen]

what am i looking for in the handbook

[shut fossil]

X3D supremacy time

[sacred orchid]

Yup

[shut fossil]

Intel getting dunked for 3 gens straight is truly special

[sacred orchid]

You might wanna sneak in some office building and steal one of those pc's

[sacred orchid]

It tells you where to slot the ram sticks

[granite lichen]

okay

a2 b2

so 2/4

[trail brook]

Dude i swear if there's a 3d model in this game that is obviously over polycount and that's why the game lags so much I'll be so annoyed.

I can't believe that happens so much in games.

[gritty rapids]

its an alpha, gayme ain't that optimized yet

[vital sun]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-jeff-bridges-gif-14019213

[sacred orchid]

Ehm its not a game its a test 🤓

[granite lichen]

yeah a test of my fuckin patience

[still patrol]

is both hehe

is a ... game test...

[gritty rapids]

welcome to alpha testing

[granite lichen]

ok imma go make some tea

anyone want some

[still patrol]

tea is yum

[gritty rapids]

Do I look British to you, tf?

[trail brook]

You don't understand though. There would be zero reason to use a highpoly anything regarddless of this being an alpha. That's all im saying. I'm cool if it's just some code they got to move around. but if it's something as simple as a high poly object I'll be annoyed. That's it.

[sacred orchid]

Arent they using bought assets?

[lean shuttle]

Marathon?

[sacred orchid]

What

[midnight surge]

pics or your british

[spice bobcat]

If your screen freezes up or your character gets stuck or if it gets choppy that’s your computer. FPS. If you press buttons and nothing happens that’s your pc ( or the server is down, like can’t dismount)

When people don’t render in or tick 1ce per second as they teleport around that’s server lag. Server lag is also mana and stam regen issues. Or numbers not popping up for damage correctly

Only that first jump down was bad for server lag I think for me

I can find server lag specific clip from older siege if anyone need comparison. 40v40 game runs really good at least

[midnight surge]

https://medal.tv/games/ashes-of-creation/clips/kmxfV44VYvRaiuNls?invite=cr-MSwxdnUsMzkyODAzNzYz lol

bunch of weenies

[stray idol]

How did the siege go?

[midnight surge]

na lost cuz the euros kids were sleeping at 5 am

but if you ask polar

they dominated

lol tm

[dusty dock]

America defeated EU in 18 minutes

massive loss for NA

[midnight surge]

congrats

youre especial

[dusty dock]

why are u congragulating me

I lost

im from NA

[midnight surge]

congrats to whoever need clout to survive

saad

hide behind mojis

or come fight me where i bullied your homie

[round osprey]

it took polar 18 minutes to beat eu, that didnt attend ?

[midnight surge]

^

[dim sky]

Let's start giving shit about results when the "game" actually works. They have a lot still to improve on performance side

[midnight surge]

yea they had to fill with other guild members from other nodes

[midnight surge]

bro they dont, they want all the testing wins they can cuz in functional games they are trash

[dusty dock]

u didnt get slotted bro, you have no idea

[midnight surge]

youre right, but dont forget the part where i cared less

[pearl blaze]

you seem to type a lot for caring so little...

[dusty pecan]

Yeah i got beat so hard while i was in my bed sleeping

rough

[midnight surge]

says the polar people

thats ironic isnt it

[robust holly]

My bed was so comfy fck sieges

[wild rune]

I would appreciate it if all New Aela citizens would vacate my new home. Please see yourself out in a safe and orderly line thank you have a nice day.

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-please-leave-get-out-move-gif-3579774

[dusty dock]

Shouldve voted sink as mayor. He wouldved defended the node successfully smh

I told them in citizen chat to vote sink

they didnt listen to me 😦

[midnight surge]

backstabs DA, explots and rmts , cheats in every scenario possible, great players 😄

defend it

[dusty dock]

stop dming me calling me the hard r bro, thats fucked up

[midnight surge]

proof ?

lol like id ever

[dusty dock]

you keep doing it dude

[midnight surge]

talk tanko if youw ant hard r words

[dusty dock]

fucked up bro

mara its not funny to be racist

[vernal grotto]

Imagine not blocking dms from strangers

[midnight surge]

then dont be

[dusty dock]

didnt realise there was people who actually did this shit

might have to

[vernal grotto]

Discord is unuseable without that setting

[midnight surge]

what about people who lie about people doing things that dont happen ?

https://medal.tv/games/ashes-of-creation/clips/kmxfV44VYvRaiuNls?invite=cr-MSwxdnUsMzkyODAzNzYz

[sacred orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-wash-face-face-wash-monkey-gif-23784999

[lofty apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx6odJwhUfg

this is how non 4 am fights look like

[dawn dagger]

that's rough watching people with self-proclaimed thousands of hours play like that

[vapid parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/ocd-clean-trash-throw-otter-gif-16481472

[sacred orchid]

fighter looking strong

[stark wolf]

that 5000% attack speed man wish i build pure attack speed 😛

[granite lichen]

https://ashescodex.com/db/item/Gear_Accessory_Earring_Thalora

[celest owl]

I hope you're kidding

[torpid hill]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[warm swallow]

Bubblu been speed hacking entire weekend

Completely untouched 😄

Atleast he can feed his family this week

[torpid hill]

at least the devs know about hacking now since this guy @ them

[ashen glen]

i bet they love those 2am pings

[granite lichen]

deserved for making us fight at 4am

[warm swallow]

@devs people are hacking

[granite lichen]

also idk if anyone else sees it

but are the speedhackers worse now

than they were a week ago

[ashen glen]

@the_entire_internet

[torpid hill]

[granite lichen]

liket hey used to fight at mach 3

now they're mach 9

[warm swallow]

Does Phoenix initiative mean you paid like 10,000?

[torpid hill]

5k is the minimum IIRC, or 2.5k?

[granite lichen]

it was the original kickstarter stuff

[ashen glen]

my pack was 10k yeah

[warm swallow]

I bet bubblu made that much this weekend

[granite lichen]

god that image fuckin sucks

goodluck reading it

[torpid hill]

he deserves it for letting devs develop and test their anti-hacking tools this early

[granite lichen]

PI is 2.5k min

[warm swallow]

Thank you Bubblu 🙏

[torpid hill]

I can still upgrade for 2k
(don't think I will)

[ashen glen]

I'm Bubblu
Da ba dee da ba di

[granite lichen]

discord would tell me what pack I have if i had kickstarter right?

I forgor what I've bought on my account

since I only have pre-alpha 2 & alpha 2

that's just the standard "you bought the game"(?)

[ashen glen]

you have intrepid pack

[rose olive]

explore the map a little more and you may find the way inside

[granite lichen]

yeah that's just the "you bought the game", right?

[ashen glen]

no

[torpid hill]

I think they have an issue with the attack speed hacking mainly, not just getting there.

[spark nymph]

Ashes of Creation Wiki

Intrepid pre-order pack

The Intrepid pre-order pack was available from the Digital shop.

Adds the purchaser's name 10 times to the Alpha-0 raffle.
Access to Alpha-1.
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Learn more here

https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Intrepid_pre-order_pack

[granite lichen]

oh

[rose olive]

oh yeah good shout

[granite lichen]

speed hacking?

https://ashescodex.com/db/item/Gear_Accessory_Earring_Thalora

they just use these

full legendary

[stark wolf]

u dont get like 1000% attack speed with items alone :p

200% will be stretching it tbh with only AS :p

[glad abyss]

[sacred orchid]

dr curve says no

[stark wolf]

you can get like 150% then bard bump it up with a buff bu ithink 20% and ranger get a 20% bonus after snipe for 4 seconds or fighter get i think 25%in red stance at full fury so u can get close

class buffs dont get effected by DR atleast ranger snipe speed buff didnt

[dusty pecan]

there is another bonus if you hit a target that has been hit by bard fire saga ? can't member exctly what it is tho

def how they do it

[stark wolf]

im actualy gonna see what % u can hit with item alone going pure AS cutrious now

ok just gear alone 136.1% is the maximum Attackspeed at like 20k rating then add whatever u can get via class skills basicly is max

[signal spire]

is a terror bird mat worth anything?

[vapid parcel]

you can check on the intrepid website

[signal spire]

hmm which site?

[vapid parcel]

https://ashesofcreation.com

log in top right, and then check your account inventory

for some reason my transaction history is gone but the inventory still has the bundle i bought

[stark wolf]

someday my embers will be useful my whole 13500 of them (think it $100 i forget) lol

[signal spire]

im dumb I thought you were responding to me

[vapid parcel]

thats ok, i missed your question 😄

and have no answer for it cause i only logged in like twice this phase.

[celest owl]

Lol my video with the cheater was deleted by the moderators))

[vapid parcel]

cause naming and shaming is against the rules, they want you to put in a report with the proof

[vernal grotto]

So I'm allowed to upload gameplay videos but if a cheater is visible in them it's not okay?

[stark wolf]

just dont point it out here a video oif this tree swaing in the wind just ignore the guy speed hacking that ran past 😛 lol

[dusty pecan]

It's called witchhunting, doesnt matter if the person is an actual witch, it's frowned upon in this discord 😄

[vernal grotto]

This discord will forever be a mystery to me, the things I've seen happening here without anyone caring and then that's not allowed

[stark wolf]

yeah lets just burn everyone instead get the witches and the normal people then :p

[sudden marsh]

[dusty pecan]

[stark wolf]

look atom even broguht the flame in his profile pic for the burning :p

[sudden marsh]

We are human, things are missed. We rely on folks reporting it too. But as others have mentioned, reports are via proper medium, just stirring drama and giving attention to hackers isn't what the discord is for.

[vapid parcel]

pls don't bring back the term witch hunting we finally got rid of the playing victim mentality

[sudden marsh]

[dusty pecan]

[stark wolf]

drama gonna happen anyway we all see the cheats in game on a daily basis we just gonna assume now it RMT mafia or polar/envious

[sudden marsh]

dank you for folks guiding others

[vernal grotto]

I've made a ticket about people harassing me yesterday and there is still no response, I logged in 20minutes ago and they're somehow already back on me

[stark wolf]

if your earned a reputation of being cheaters you just gonna be blamed for it if people dont have a specific other person to blame :p

[vapid parcel]

harrassing is objective, is it rl threats or racial slurs or just annoying dm's, cause you can just /block people

and there's no fully dedicated community team yet for Alpha, so tickets tend to take a little longer if investigation is needed

[vernal grotto]

They follow me on every step, spam insults in chat and spam cc me

[stark wolf]

they probaly have like 1 intern going through the tickets 😛 hahaha

[vernal grotto]

they jsut follow me through the wilderness

spam this in chat and cc me

I logged off yesterday since it made the game unplayable and they're right back on me

No idea how they even found me

[stark wolf]

hahaha caota i killed him yesurday in a 6v3 :p

[vernal grotto]

I 1v3d them

that's why they are so angry

It's just super lame and ruins the game

You basically can't outside towns anymore

[ruby igloo]

They just like you lol

[vernal grotto]

when I enter a town they spam trade me, I had to move the window aside

[ruby igloo]

Imagine this dedication

[vapid parcel]

yeah thats insane

[vernal grotto]

How did they even find me randomly in the desert

I just came online

[ruby igloo]

Maphacks

[vernal grotto]

there is no way ever these guys cheat

[vapid parcel]

couldve just been luck

[vernal grotto]

the rogue hits me for 900 damage with a full rotation

[stark wolf]

i killed their ranged from 100% when i had 10% hp lol was nice enough to heal me for 3k in the process

[vernal grotto]

plannindorf sent me to make a ticket

[glad abyss]

[stark wolf]

give it 2 weeks the intern will get to it :p

[vernal grotto]

let me just spend the next 2 weeks ccd and scarab trained

[glad abyss]

why do they even hate u this much tho

[stark wolf]

ive been waiting for them to ficx arrow storm for like 3 months now :p

[ruby igloo]

They respond fast I did receive a reply in like a day

[dawn dagger]

should've been D&D buddies with Plannindorf smh, skill diffed

[glad abyss]

ive killed people in the open world before, never had this issues

[dusty pecan]

get a few friend and flag on them i gues

[vernal grotto]

I guess I'm special

[vernal grotto]

Pretty much all my friends already quit this phase

[dusty pecan]

sad

[vernal grotto]

😦

[glad abyss]

it is a very quittable phase tbh

[stark wolf]

might have to submit another ticket on arrowstorm soon i feel the first one beenlost

[vernal grotto]

It was their first phase and they were asking me why I made them buy the game, most refunded

[dusty pecan]

you should quit and give me your gear

[glad abyss]

my gear is trash brother

[dusty pecan]

i just need boots

[glad abyss]

i dont have varek

[vapid parcel]

this was not the right phase to start XD

[dusty pecan]

fak

[vapid parcel]

all crammed on one server

[dusty pecan]

i need 1 earring too

[ruby igloo]

Use sweepers

Oh wait

[dusty pecan]

good one

[vernal grotto]

the plan was this being p3 😦

[ruby igloo]

They are rarer than fucking varek

🥱

[glad abyss]

nah they are just bugged i think, mob doesnt even drop the craft mat

[dusty pecan]

you can remove rarer by not in the game

like his loot table is scuffed

[vernal grotto]

56 monitor kills can confirm boots do not exist

[glad abyss]

my rogue got his boots after 3 kills

[dusty pecan]

they do 😄

[vapid parcel]

yeah i know XD but most of Intrepid's plans change unfortunately. Then the pvp junkies asked for one mega server so they could get their rocks off and now here we are

[vernal grotto]

fake news

[dusty pecan]

Sweeper is more than 800kill without even crafting mat 😄

[glad abyss]

u can ask him @shut fossil

[vernal grotto]

I must hold the boots in my own hands to belive

Come prove it

[glad abyss]

i saw people selling them for 400g

not even that bad

[sacred orchid]

some people can be very unpleasant

[vernal grotto]

that's like 10 grey iron rings

[glad abyss]

i mean just run caravans at 200km/h

u ll get ur boots in no time

[ruby igloo]

Saw some dude buying tardy for 250g

Imagine

[dusty pecan]

im way too nice

[sacred orchid]

[vestal needle]

speedhackers are really hitting us with another left turn meta

[dusty pecan]

gave some away for free basically

[vernal grotto]

I heard the rmt price is lower than on last day before wipe

[dusty pecan]

yeah more competition

[ruby igloo]

Yes gold is 0.43 a pop

[dusty pecan]

bringing price down

[ruby igloo]

Approx

[vernal grotto]

Exploiting mobs to bypass leveling and then rmting money to bypass grinding, then quit the game cause no content left

[patent junco]

Can confirm. He showed me first few days

[sacred orchid]

bots win wow were nice, prices were low in auction house

million farm bots

[glad abyss]

mf is just so lucky

[rose olive]

because we have china AND russia doing it here, rather than having one on each server

[torpid hill]

it took them THAT long to get there? disappointing

[lapis sable]

Kiko again exploiting?

[vernal grotto]

wah

I'm not in sol deus you must confuse me

[vernal grotto]

My bad asyleum uh I mean holiday

Kinda losing track with all the name changes

[dusty pecan]

Asylum =/= Sol Deus

[lapis sable]

Apparently they were testing new "tech" on us. Not sure what that was, every round was anti-grav + W + hope for the best Sorry every round after 2nd fight and onward.

[patent junco]

You forgot Rent Free

Rent free living in people’s heads still

[vernal grotto]

Your brain is drilled on remembering bad things, that is how we evolve and learn. If you're proud of being a bad experience to people then I don't know what to tell you

[patent junco]

Your bad experience is my good experience

[dusty pecan]

Sol Deus Derangement Syndrom is a real thing huh

[sacred orchid]

is it rant time again

[manic crystal]

🤔

[lapis sable]

@solar dirge do you have possibly a clip of the fight when you rezzed Tanko but he did not get the rez?

from yday against Cartel

[manic crystal]

Still waiting for some soul to give the full scrim duration

One can only hope.

[dusty pecan]

i saw a video with some of the fights from Cartel PoV

[lapis sable]

uh it was like 1,5h to 2 hours. Mainly because we had to wait always for polar to prepare their anti-grav shit

13 fights, then EU went sleep

[dusty pecan]

Was the antigrav shit effective ?

i feel like it's so troll ^^

[lapis sable]

Lost a few at the beginning cause no experience with anti-grav, then no chance

[dusty pecan]

ig it can be good if you play against full melee comp otherwise i don't think i like it x)

[lusty stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx6odJwhUfg

[lapis sable]

it literally just feels like a "hope for the best" strat

[manic crystal]

[lapis sable]

https://youtu.be/Onfq-0HFpPE?si=-V-ASo6X5zD69tES

[patent junco]

What’s the TLDR or final score?

[lusty stream]

my tag

[lapis sable]

that is my PoV, i think like the 3rd fight. You can visibly see me being confused with the anti-grav

no idea what was happening lol

[manic crystal]

With com as well

damn, ggs

[dusty pecan]

i hate your UI

[lapis sable]

I hate it also honestly, but I cba changing

[dusty pecan]

ig it's good to track your CD but cba

[lapis sable]

I was playin default UI in P2 until firebrand tournament

Wish I had more chance to pvp on tank before these scrims, muscle memory still not there. Probably won't ever be

[vernal grotto]

it's really hard to watch a tank and think "that's a gamer"

The class really needs some love

[glad abyss]

what is this boomer music tho

[lapis sable]

I could have done a lot more, but I played it more like a 0.5 bard, wonder why duh.

[lusty stream]

They really need to allow for more UI customization...

[manic crystal]

1 cleric huh

[lusty stream]

The outcome of having hands

[lapis sable]

apparently it is the new meta

[manic crystal]

Do you guys have agerman?

[lapis sable]

average 720 music when he streams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A

[manic crystal]

I hear the accent.

[lapis sable]

Jamal, the mage, is german

[sacred orchid]

sniping and hope it crits?

[manic crystal]

xD

[lapis sable]

no, coordinating damage with your team

[lusty stream]

tm was fuming saying we were bug abusing snipe, and that it shouldnt hit for 2.5k

[dusty pecan]

there is no hoping when you are 60% crit chance

[manic crystal]

1 cleric is the new meta? hm

[lapis sable]

snipe is like what 70% crit chance?

[lusty stream]

they spent 1 hour after scrim to figure out how to get 2.5k snipe crits

[lapis sable]

i would need to see the passive + mark is like 25% avoidance

[sacred orchid]

thats rough

[dusty pecan]

idk im a one trick poney now

[glad abyss]

what a banger

[lapis sable]

+bullseye from party

we talking probably near 100% crit

[dusty pecan]

oh so you got 100% chance to crit snipe

[lapis sable]

+heartseeker

[manic crystal]

nah

[glad abyss]

[manic crystal]

investing all ur utils into snipe is bad play

specially in scrims.

[dusty pecan]

ranger = 50% ish crit + 30% + 2bulleyes

[lusty stream]

they just teasing tm on whats gonna happen in tourney

[lapis sable]

You can always scrim the team and prove your tech

[dusty pecan]

you don't invest much

[vernal grotto]

snipe is like 110%

[manic crystal]

the most visible and dodgeble skill if you see from a mile away your damage goes poof

[dusty pecan]

when you fighting 7 other people

that's not always that easy

[lapis sable]

wish it was that easy

[patent junco]

Wym snipe has a small dodge window

[vernal grotto]

Tbh it's a gamble with my NA ping

[manic crystal]

idk have to look at your guys range pov

[patent junco]

And with NA ping it’s fucking 🤮

[vernal grotto]

And half the time it's not even showing atm

[glad abyss]

our rangers were fucking on point

[noble elk]

Talking about a guy who posted a clip a month ago of him having to ask what uppies was and what it did.

[manic crystal]

sitting ther chanelling 1 single target skill with full utils for 3sec is usually a dead sentence

[glad abyss]

but masterclass performance from our cleric tbh

[vernal grotto]

just dodge it like this

[glad abyss]

he had so much pressure on him

[manic crystal]

the vines and scatter? 100% the aoe presence and control was very good

[manic crystal]

1 cleric yea

[lapis sable]

ha?

our rangers dont cast snipe without speed buff

[manic crystal]

Again i cant tell because of no vod, am just talking in a general sense.

[lapis sable]

idk if there is any

[manic crystal]

If your bards are baby sitting the ranger's is 100% a game dif

[glad abyss]

maybe noktyn had some

[manic crystal]

Am not attacking your guys play at all

just speaking from experience and what happen in most of cases in open world combat

[lapis sable]

I mean, we are putting a lot of effort into synergy

[manic crystal]

It shows tbf

[lapis sable]

works better with this TTK

[manic crystal]

But i feel like TTK still is kinda the same as last phase

we are struggling more to gear.

[lapis sable]

eh

Yes and no. People still die fast, but there is definitely no 1 tap which is what I care about

[manic crystal]

based on last phase 500power+ i was critting for 5,5k+

[lapis sable]

and you can build defensive

[lapis sable]

https://medal.tv/games/ashes-of-creation/clips/jKuq7ieXvxDqp5Kk8?invite=cr-MSxMdE4sMzAzNDg5NzYy last phase was fine

[manic crystal]

with 200power right now critting 1.8k + is not an uncommon thing.

[glad abyss]

last phase it was just INT/STR stacking, now secondary stats actually matter

[vernal grotto]

I dunno, I have 49% phys mitigation, I don't get crit for 2.5k

[errant slate]

If you die fast you arent gearing right or playing right. There are tons of even fights that dont end till healer ooms

[vernal grotto]

Maybe stacking power to the limit is not the play anymore c:

[manic crystal]

The power curve is different

but now you have crit power modifiers.

[glad abyss]

once u are 200 power u can just focus in ur secondaries

[manic crystal]

resonance dumb shit

[rose olive]

don't think -crit avoidance acts as a crit boost

[manic crystal]

If the guy who designed bard and rogue sits and remakes all classes in the game we def have a better class system

[vernal grotto]

remove like 30% cuz mitigation

[manic crystal]

but atm nah

[vernal grotto]

and it's really not much

[rose olive]

real

timo got like 6k hp

[manic crystal]

anyway, very nice scrim and pov to watch.

[dawn dagger]

give them a break, it takes years to unlearn the one group pvp strat you've known for 15 years. stealth bomb and sapper KEKW

[manic crystal]

[lapis sable]

wdym, it litereally puts people into minus crit avoidance

[rose olive]

do they go negative?

[glad abyss]

bro who tf writes this shit

[manic crystal]

someone with spare time.

[lapis sable]

wut, you have penetration + shaken on target. They probably go into minus mitigation

we already did this math yday

[rose olive]

since when does mit go below zero

when did this happen

[lapis sable]

shaken can put it below

[vernal grotto]

I speak about myself with 49% mitigation

[lapis sable]

ah, well no one cares about you

[vernal grotto]

:c

[manic crystal]

shaken cap is %15

[lapis sable]

shaken and volatile are not true 15%

they have a mitigation rating, which we cannot see

[manic crystal]

is not a flat -

u doing ur shit wrong

[rose olive]

natty

[lusty stream]

spilling out all the secrets i see

glad to have astu on our side

[manic crystal]

49% mitigation all i read is a lot of wasted item slots tbh

[rose olive]

yes stack penetration trust me

[glad abyss]

gigachad excel god

[rose olive]

[rose olive]

real

you never see it

[vernal grotto]

dw this is fine

[rose olive]

bucky taking notes for next class

[manic crystal]

what kind of ranger are u ? lol

[lusty stream]

people still sending me gear builds from ashes codex build planner 🤣

[manic crystal]

hey man knowledge is important.

[glad abyss]

the peasants

[manic crystal]

not everyone has a sheet guy.

[lusty stream]

ure missing out

[lapis sable]

anyway, I need to watch some vods and make one more video against madhouse

[manic crystal]

or is the sheet guy.

[glad abyss]

thats very bad, sheet guys are the ones who hard carry in every mmo

[lusty stream]

anyway, I got a polar edit to finish

[manic crystal]

yea but thats some kind of kink that 5% of pop has

LOL

[glad abyss]

bro u have been editing for the last 10 days, i really hope this shit wins an oscar or smth

[manic crystal]

i cant sit there looking and numbers and probability and etc

personally.

[glad abyss]

thank god astu has giga autism

[manic crystal]

🤣

Awtysm?

[lusty stream]

man ive only spent 8 hours out of those 10 days, actually editing ... 😦

anyway bye

[vernal grotto]

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/060/200/992/large/olya-vaora-olya-vaora-tbrender-006-1-1.jpg?1678048005

[manic crystal]

disgusting.

[vernal grotto]

:c

[manic crystal]

reroll class.

disgusting.

[manic crystal]

thats some rogue energy

@glad abyss

he is one of you.

[glad abyss]

we are not bald

[manic crystal]

nah the pic above

[vernal grotto]

IT IS THE LEATHER HELMET NOT MY HEAD

[glad abyss]

we are def not furries

[manic crystal]

nah 100% furry

[glad abyss]

[manic crystal]

rogue is 100% furry

[vernal grotto]

Nothing wrong with cat ears

[manic crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-bang-theory-sheldon-cooper-jim-parsons-get-out-out-gif-3975144

[vernal grotto]

D:

Dunno, rogues spot is awkward, it default wins smallscale which I find a bit boring

But gotta wait for the other class reworks to judge

maybe ranger mark actually marks the target making it impossible to evade or stealth for the duration

[manic crystal]

This aint wow.

[vernal grotto]

Dunno I never played that, but if they have it then respect

[glad abyss]

isnt that the nature of the class tho? giga good in small scale, but way harder to execute in large?

i would be surpirsed if a rougue was the meta pick in large scale

[vernal grotto]

For sure, but I think skill should always go over design. Not if you have atleast 1 hand you can't die

[patent junco]

Ye I don’t really get the complaints. That’s its design. Ranger is god in large scale

[glad abyss]

exactly

now buff mage

[patent junco]

ff for mages

[vernal grotto]

I think it will be alright once the other classes had their reworks, but for now it just feels a bit like hands off keyboard, you met a rogue, 130% evasion rate gamer just better than you

[sacred orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-slap-gif-5263949288532448516

[vernal grotto]

5 dodges ontop of that

[sacred orchid]

this guy

[vernal grotto]

I like fights being exciting and going back and forth

Like when I played rogue it just felt as boring because you just win and bully people

[lusty stream]

give rogues samira ultimate

[vernal grotto]

I'm not interested in playing rock paper scissor

[spiral mesa]

1v1 Will always be rock paper scissor that Will never change

[patent junco]

Who wants to tell him 🤷🏻‍♂️

[spiral mesa]

They are balancing to group play

[vernal grotto]

I understand that some classes like clerics need insane healing power because the game is balanced around group fighting, but it is totaly doable to raise the skill ceiling for small scale a bit more

maybe I'm playing the wrong genre if I look for skillful gameplay but I still hope

[spiral mesa]

Have you heard of wound

[vernal grotto]

Tell me about it

I have no idea what that is

[robust holly]

I can confirm, as a cleric, I fucking hate wound

[spiral mesa]

It Can decrease healing be alot

Dont know exact number

[vernal grotto]

Mhm, mhm, writing ti down

it does 5% per stack up to 50% at 10 stacks

thank you kindly

Let me just do 5 longbow auto finishers to half the healing of the enemy cleric who hopefully doesn't run cleanse

Or I play fighter the amazing class meant to stack wound a lot

[robust holly]

No but half your party running it means 25% less self heals. Even that is enough to burst a healer down and clerics can only cleanse 3 stacks at a time

[spiral mesa]

Some ranger abillities apply wound

[robust holly]

And time spent cleansing is time not spent healing

[vernal grotto]

it's faster to stack it with auto attacks

Whatever, ya'll do you

Glad we don't need cleric limits in 8v8 for balance reasons

[spiral mesa]

Go run 8 cleric then

[vernal grotto]

Have you tried pineapple pizza?

[spiral mesa]

You Can setup a scrim to test 8 clerics i believe in you

[vernal grotto]

I wouldn't eat spaghetti with it tho

[manic crystal]

I can 100% see rogue aplication in large scale.

just need to fix the invi.

[robust holly]

Honestly stacking clerics is pretty goated for ship battles

[spiral mesa]

Isnt ship pvp just boarding

[robust holly]

Not necessarily but mostly

We literally sent a good tank onto their ship and nothing else, he say there and ate 100k damage whilst the clerics healed and the remaining players shot with cannons

[vernal grotto]

Well all I can say is that I find it boring when my victory/loss is being determined before the fight started, but everyone can have their own opinion on this

[spiral mesa]

All i know is tank Anchor

[rose olive]

rogue gameplay

[glad abyss]

Yeah ofc u want some rogues in large scale but u def dont stack them like mages or Rangers

[robust holly]

It’s not, but certain classes will always perform better in small scale

[glad abyss]

Isnt that rock paper scissors tho? Some classes naturally counter other classes

[vernal grotto]

There is soft and hard rock paper scissor, it's up to the devs how big the advantage you get is. I mostly played survival sandbox and esport titles so I'm not used to the well you lost in class select stuff and don't enjoy it

[manic crystal]

atm only rogue counter bards 🤣

[vernal grotto]

I don't really need all the fancy things around if that's all it comes down to

may aswell give me a dice and I play with that

[robust holly]

It’s not luck though. There’s party comp theorising for a reason

[manic crystal]

Kiko plays ranger and doesnt play with other people

so i assume he doesnt have the knowledge.

[robust holly]

Oh

[glad abyss]

Yeah and i think even in esport u can get completely countered and not being able to play the game due to class/champ selection no? Its called draft

[vernal grotto]

The assuming started before kiko

[robust holly]

Yeah it’s counter picking huge in class based esports?

[manic crystal]

Yep

[vernal grotto]

yes but it's way softer and gives you way more options to still win instead of a 130% chance to miss

[glad abyss]

Umbral cloack Is pretty bullshit i agree on that

[vernal grotto]

Like in esports you draft for every tiny advantage, you would draft for 3% chance not 130%

minmaxing the tiny advantages is the key

[trim girder]

And that balance is more than a year from now. We don't know what it's going to look like

[robust holly]

Yeah arguing esports vs alpha

[trim girder]

But still they'll balance around 8v8

[vernal grotto]

Here comes the alpha argument, people just always want to fight back instead of agreeing, gotta be really hard

[manic crystal]

I dont think theres balancing.

[robust holly]

Because it’s a valid argument lol

[vernal grotto]

First you're telling me that's how the game should be, then you say it's an alpha

[robust holly]

Because they’ve told us they’re balancing around 8v8, and told us balance will be closer to beta

[trim girder]

I'm saying we have no clue what it'll look like when they actually start balancing the game. We don't even have all archetypes in game yet

[spiral mesa]

None of the classes are in the game rn

[robust holly]

And augments will change classes a fuckload as well

[manic crystal]

Fact that tank is gonna get another touch up before addressing fighters and rangers is wild 🤣

[vernal grotto]

my bad

I thought the roadmap means anything

[dusty pecan]

Shockers news; alpha is not balanced, stay tuned more info at 8

[robust holly]

Tbf from all my tank players, it needs it bad

[vernal grotto]

Shocking news: people can't handle feedback to an alpha game we're testing and rather argue about it than agreeing

[trim girder]

Balance changes for the entire game systems, not just class balance.

[robust holly]

Balance changes means balance, not an overhaul of how combat works lol

[vernal grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-wall-gif-5021467

[manic crystal]

Tank doesnt need more skills, need its skills to work properly is not the same thing.

[robust holly]

We’re not argueing, we’re having a discussion. We just disagree with your opinion

[robust holly]

You don’t like setting up a metronome to keep your class resource up?

[vernal grotto]

I legit feel like talking to an underdeveloped ai sometimes, I say a thing and the response is something that's mostly off the point but has some thin connections

[dusty pecan]

i hear your feedback i even agree with part of it, i just don't think balance is the priority for them rn hence giving feedback on something that is far from goals is kinda pointless

[spiral mesa]

They have Said 1v1 Will never be balanced

[manic crystal]

My focus is a one and done.

[vernal grotto]

How can people argue that rogue is designed for smallscale and say the game is not designed around smallscale in the next message

[robust holly]

8v8 is small scale pvp

[vernal grotto]

The game is clearly not balanced around 8v8 else people wouldn't put limits to classes for their little ego tournys

[robust holly]

I imagine in the future, rogues in large scale will act as a roamer, picking off stragglers and causing confusion, more than being part of the central force

[manic crystal]

There is no balancing x.x

[patent junco]

It’s mostly because you have weird takes.

You don’t want to play rock paper scissors games, yet play ashes when Steven has stated it’ll be rock paper scissors and balanced around 8v8 and larger scale.

You don’t like Zerg games but play ashes where Steven wants a game of 500v500 possible 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[robust holly]

Idk anything about these tourneys but having 5 clerics would be shit watch, perhaps that’s why

[sacred orchid]

what will happen if you dont do rock scissors paper classes

you get no class identity

[vernal grotto]

Oh yes people make their tourny for you to watch, the world is your show

[sacred orchid]

just like wow retail

everything became homogenized

[wild rune]

https://tenor.com/view/raising-flag-vietnam-soldiers-raising-flag-american-flag-marines-gif-8472928945026138881

[robust holly]

What do you think a tournament is?

[manic crystal]

I mean pvp games = competitive.

[sacred orchid]

when summoner is out you can do 1 of each class

[glad abyss]

This Is a very good point

[sacred orchid]

would be cool to see

[wild rune]

https://tenor.com/view/usa-love-gif-9159476783947895148

Please vacate New Aela

[manic crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-tsang-gif-25331686

[vernal grotto]

Maybe I should just communicate in gifs too

Seems pointless to do much more

[spiral mesa]

Dw when summoner out we Will no longer see rogue complaints only summoner complaints

[manic crystal]

nah TM is just looking for reactions

[robust holly]

That’s would be awesome tbh. Then it’s purely down to skill.
Although I do like having multiple categories for a touney. Have main event be highlander mode, a side event be custom

[glad abyss]

Btw how was the siege performance Yesterday? I heard they have improving that shit a lot

[robust holly]

Apparently it was ass

[wild rune]

You guys should learn to play your classes now you can’t even win a siege on defense, don’t think so hard about new classes Lul

[glad abyss]

[sacred orchid]

possibly in the future

[vernal grotto]

Looked okay, loser side copes more on it sucking than winners obviously, but still horrible compared to PTR which is 100% fluid

[glad abyss]

Was It 100 vs 100?

[robust holly]

The extra 3000 people on the server will do that

[dusty pecan]

Rich coming from someone who had to be explained how his class work

[manic crystal]

[sacred orchid]

game is hard ok

[dusty pecan]

1st off i wasnt doing anything, 2nd im just memeing from what i've been told idc

😄

[sacred orchid]

i want summoner to be out

so i can get out of cleric jail

[manic crystal]

So TM you're saying you lost the scrim because they exploited?

[glad abyss]

Good bait, 8/10

[vernal grotto]

no durrr they distance themself from cats

[robust holly]

Concept art looks amazing. I hope it comes before p3 so I can test it

[sacred orchid]

what art

[dusty pecan]

You didnt see summon concept art ?

Gimme a sec

[wild rune]

@glad abyss you don’t even know how the thing you are doing works

[sacred orchid]

only saw summons

[robust holly]

There’s way more too

[dusty pecan]

Yeah that

[sacred orchid]

yea that

im gonna be honest

dont find it too appealing

[robust holly]

Sorry yeah that’s not concept art, but you get my point

[sacred orchid]

if its a big ass blop

[robust holly]

I kinda think going summoner secondary class will be more fun. Like a cleric getting an angle guardian or smthn

[sacred orchid]

who knows

[spiral mesa]

Those are only the tank ones there are healer and dps ones

[sacred orchid]

i just want to play it sicne it has dots and channel

i vibe with that

[manic crystal]

Wait, TM saying he lost due exploit?

[glad abyss]

Everybody Will Just go Bard/rogue as secondaries

[sacred orchid]

id even play summonless summoner if i could lol

[robust holly]

Nah cleric/cleric, ALLL the heals

[ruby igloo]

Cleric/bard will go hard

[manic crystal]

it is a funny cycle we live in isnt it

[glad abyss]

Really curious to see how mage cleric Will work

[vapid parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/nutria-otter-otter-love-hug-love-gif-25437634

[glad abyss]

Maybe we get some sustain finally

[hexed needle]

Fortissimo and conflict an exploit now?

[vernal grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-otter-aty-petting-head-pat-gif-26796568

[wild rune]

When you know it’s broken yes

[lapis sable]

You complained about 2.5k snipe, the clip you posted is 3,8k

[glad abyss]

Guys dont take the bait

[lapis sable]

and I don't even see a rogue in that clip

[hexed needle]

this is such a crazy stance xD been in the game since P1. It's part of how bard plays but the Polar crew only just read their skills so now it's an exploit?

[wild rune]

You know it’s not supposed to be multiplying the way it is don’t play dumb

[dusty pecan]

idk, does the math checks out ?

[lapis sable]

our snipe did, the 3.8k snipe no

[dusty pecan]

call the autistic guy to run number

[hexed needle]

It literrally says on the info cards what it does. How is it not meant to work the way it's WRITTEN down xD

[lapis sable]

there is definitely something that happens to numbers sometimes

honse got a 4,4k auto attack yday from Lit, polar bard.

[dusty pecan]

yep got a 3k critit on a lightning ball tick

[tribal solstice]

I am entirely fine with your usual trashtalking, but accusing my guild of exploiting by using abilities that give a cumulative buff is pushing it.

[wild rune]

Either way it’s broken I reported it as a bug so hopefully it gets fixed before the tournament

[lapis sable]

we put it down to rogue, but we have not managed to reproduce.

Same with the Protect removing class specific buffs lol

[manic crystal]

So TM lost bc of exploit

[hexed needle]

using skills = bug.

Crazy

[lapis sable]

already posted it yesterday

[raven vessel]

says who? Bucky?

[glad abyss]

If the math checks out how can It be bugged?

[lapis sable]

TM, this just means you guys have not been using fortissimo in general? lol

[tribal solstice]

#alpha-two-shol-us message

[wild rune]

It doesn’t check out

[lapis sable]

[glad abyss]

I think somebody posted It yday

[lapis sable]

2.5k snipe checks, 3.8k not

[inner bluff]

no body disagrees with it being broken but saying we are exploiting something when the hardest snipe i saw was 2.6 iirc. We already ran the numbers that it checks out, i even sent you them last night to run for yourself. Its not that difficult

[wild rune]

Nope it’s the interaction with other multiplicative things.

[lapis sable]

we also had Ado do once 2k chain lightning

[hexed needle]

They use Saga volume two. so they can get their little anti grav off, so multiplying one or two bard buffs dosn't have the same effect

[vernal grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-kitty-cat-cuddle-cuddles-gif-21959577

[tribal solstice]

Just to add this via calculator

[lapis sable]

Malunoo typing

[dusty pecan]

i think the rogue debuff might be broken tho

[whole saffron]

is this even factoring in heartseeker?

[lapis sable]

[inner bluff]

no

[wild rune]

Ya not gonna go into all the issues here but I was able to get to 3.8k snipes the shit is broken in many different ways.

[lapis sable]

we put it down to exposed yes, but we were rewatching vods. And it does not seem to be exposed

[whole saffron]

dogshit na clowns dont even know what half their toolkit does and cant use it properly then cry exploits

[hexed needle]

Only the way we use are skills are how they're intended. Anything else is an exploit

[robust holly]

if cleric sub just ends up giving people lifesteal ima be pissed

[whole saffron]

if anyone exploited anything last night it was your bard auto attacking for 4.4k

[wild rune]

You either knew or you’re dumb either way idc. I reported the bug and moved on

[dusty pecan]

the target in TM clip is exposed

or i think it is ?

[manic crystal]

Nah you calling people exploiters

[lapis sable]

let me see again

[wild rune]

Hopefully it gets fixed before the tournament

[whole saffron]

conveniently you cry about someone else getting a randomly high hit but when your bard autos for 4.4k its fine right?

[tribal solstice]

Not my usual kind of conversation, but if you want to fight without buffs, I would recommend adding a rule to your tournament @wild rune :
"All abilities other than basic attack are forbidden. Weapontrees have to be empty to prevent hidden buffs that give unfair advantage"

[glad abyss]

So Just for the record, u went 3-10 Yesterday only because this "exploit"?

[lapis sable]

He deleted the message?

I cant find it

[dusty pecan]

can't find it either

repost clip TM

[whole saffron]

its because you are not using your toolkit properly you fucking clown

[hexed needle]

10-3 "Losing"

[raven vessel]

I would love to read the description of that bug. we all need a laugh on Mondays

[dusty pecan]

that debuff wording is so weird too

[tribal solstice]

"Math is mathing! 15% dmg buffs increase the total damage by 15%! Please fix ASAP!"

[lapis sable]

@glad abyss post your 2k chain light clip

[glad abyss]

[manic crystal]

am getting live test server siege flashbacks.

[glad abyss]

Im not at home now

[wild rune]

Going to bed seethe more losers

[hexed needle]

Imagine if I were to say that anti grav is a bug. "it's clearly not intended to work that way, you can't even dispell it". Like this is how you sound dude

[raven vessel]

"I got schooled by secondary school maths, please help"

[wild rune]

https://tenor.com/view/iwo-jima-flag-raising-usa-usa-marines-usa-marine-corps-gif-26056073

[sudden marsh]

Let's drop the exploiting convo. Just circling the drain atm.

[whole saffron]

only NA mongs can get shit on that hard and still think they won LMAO

[manic crystal]

Its your man's calling people exploiters

[inner bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/ashes-of-creation/clips/kmnYildTJq6qW3rSm?invite=cr-MSxKaXksMjM2NjM3OTMw is this a exploit in this clip or you are okay with this one ? im just trying to get a baseline to understand this take

[dusty pecan]

@lapis sable this target is shaken

[tribal solstice]

Aye, it's not the level of conversation I tend to get into, but I am taking claims of exploiting very serious.
Can't really expect me to stand down, when multiplicative math is used to insult my guys as breaking ToS.

[dusty pecan]

so idk anymore

x)

[lapis sable]

no shaken, but exposed

[dusty pecan]

yeah exposed i meant

[lapis sable]

cant tell if exposed before or after

[sudden marsh]

If you feel someone is calling you an exploiter.. report em. Its not the place to witch hunt

Let staff handle exploiters and move on.

[glad abyss]

I mean u literally saw the messages its not really a "feeling"

[raven vessel]

I have an easy solution. I will run some maths tutoring classes. Use code POLAR for 100% discount. That means free @TM

[sudden marsh]

Im mobile on a night out. Not reading except dms.

[tribal solstice]

In that case you may see the last 150(or so) messages as an attachment to this message to report fake exploitation claims 🙂

[robust holly]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in4k-4k-camera-caught-sus-gif-20846600

[glad abyss]

Polar trying to Witch hunt us

[tribal solstice]

Please do - and include "dot before dash"