alpha-two-artisan-chat

[clear tree]

thanks for the info tho

[strong reef]

im sure tons of others have more information that if they check maybe they can input

[novel surge]

That is correct

[noble widget]

its only in the desert from what i can tell and you gotta go quite far down to find any decent amount

[lofty jackal]

Thanks, i was wondering where.

[noble widget]

iv farmed about 60 -70 of it, took hours

[lofty jackal]

how far down did you end up going down?

[noble widget]

lemme look at my map will get back to you

[lofty jackal]

Thanks boss

[novel surge]

The tooltip tells you where it can spawn

Which I believe is everywhere except anvils

[noble widget]

it say on the tooltip riverlands but iv never seen it anywhere

[novel surge]

It's not a common spawn but can be randomly just about anywhere. Used to see a bunch around aven's agri area but of course more people have JM herbalism now

[noble widget]

o interesting maybe i just found it easy to spot in desert because less trees and shrubs blocking it

[novel surge]

Yeah it is definitely not super easy to see in riverlands

That and small basalt piles can look like it

[noble widget]

yeah not easy at all but good infoi thanks

[novel surge]

I see it occasionally on my flax trips in the tropics but havent been going out there lately

[frosty tiger]

After I hit apprentice mining (two weeks ago) and used a apprentice pickaxe suddenly the rarity of the ores that dropped was like 90% less. Is this bug that the team is aware of or?.. seen a lot of people say the same

[radiant ingot]

You mean it only procs ~10% of what it used to? (That’s too steep, I’m probably misunderstanding) Or wdym by 90% less rarity of the ores?

[frosty tiger]

Before hitting apprentice and using a apprentice pickaxe I'd get a lot of heroic and epic ores. After that it drastically changed and it felt completely off. Started googling and see people complain about the same stuff. Was hoping there is something going on that's gonna be fixed or something

[quaint sundial]

Can anyone tell me if gathering quality from food and mining quality from items stack when collecting ore or not?

[maiden pawn]

Yes but you need significant amounts for it to even make a difference.

[quaint sundial]

it's enough or not?

how much +- need for visible results

[maiden pawn]

Upwards of 1200 I’ve heard.

There’s some discussion on the topic in the bugs threads.

[quaint sundial]

But it's almost impossible to assemble now, there is no master metallworking for the Journeyman Pickaxe on our server)

[quaint sundial]

can u send link for me?

[maiden pawn]

Correct. Thats the issue. They’ve removed static rarity, which makes higher grade resources harder to obtain in quantity, but then don’t adjust the thresholds needed to meet in order to gather higher rarity in meaningful ways.

[maiden pawn]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1457162915789410316

[quaint sundial]

Thanks, I'll read it, and can you give me some advice? I can't find T3 resources in the desert no matter how much I run around. In fact, the only way to farm them more or less effectively is to mine thousands of T1 and hope that T3 will appear in their place?

[maiden pawn]

I haven’t done much out in the desert but t3 resource spawns are proportional to the amount that it is used in crafts so there’s not many spawning to begin with.

[quaint sundial]

but ore is not mined directly, it is random, it cannot be used in crafting, except for processing in an attempt to get the required one

[vagrant light]

Master Leatherworking upgrade started in Sunhaven (Resna)!

The biggest need is 100 x hunting crates (10 x carcasses per crate). We have our own Construction House. Just bring carcasses.

[silent steeple]

Ive seen people say speed does not work but heres a small test that shows it does.

[silent steeple]

More tests, seems to tapper off, might be a breakpoint you need, or might be softcap.

[novel surge]

Yeah maybe like 500-700ish being a starting spot

[balmy escarp]

where can the journeyman lumberjack #2 recipe be gotten to craft?

[silent steeple]

someone told me it was not in the game but im not sure, and would also love to know if it is.

[quaint sundial]

lol nice, trying to craft epic voidbreak mining pickaxe with full epic mats and got only rare 😄

[novel surge]

I am pretty sure that is how it is with all pre-determined items

[silent steeple]

got 200ish more speed, added another test

[thick acorn]

Anyway to make dracaena plant not be invisable? via graphic settings?

[novel surge]

Not that has been discovered

[thick acorn]

🙁 armor i want needs it and invisable plants are a pain when u need so many of them lol

pretty sure barrel cactus in desert invisable too got 1 hit of that randomly but think it apprentice so there rare and invisable lol

[steady oar]

is 1200 the sweet spot for quality mining?

[uneven gate]

it's just pain gathering over time, though i am selling a bunch in New Aela regularly.

[feral sentinel]

does anybody know where glorybound recipes drop

[willow kestrel]

Any anybody have any info on carpentry? Cost to get to journeymen, ect.

Generally

[patent bison]

anyobody knows where to find tharaxite? i tried go anvils and mine limestone for tharaxite but found 0 limestone

[thorny raven]

Any potion sellers in Shol that I can commission for a delivery to the Anvils? https://tenor.com/view/potion-seller-justin-kuritzkes-strongest-weakest-gif-23479807

[wraith tendon]

When your settlement has upgraded it's woodshop vendor.

[wraith tendon]

Level 20+ humanoids.

[main adder]

Does anyone know who drops the Rootforged set recipie?

[wide portal]

Anvils mourning slate and probably also limestone. Hit node and pray

[thick acorn]

riverlands 20+ mobs

[spiral cargo]

hey when i get a jewlery that say radiant weapon or fire weapon. with say stat of 300 what exactly does that do

[merry fjord]

I have a question regarding artisan gear. For cooking they have clothes of course, do i only need to put them on when picking the finished items up? Or do i have to put it on when starting the craft?

[sweet elk]

Starting, for crafting/processing buffs it’s always start. To buff the adventuring xp you receive you can use a scroll before you pick up at the end.

[merry fjord]

Cool thanks!

[ivory mango]

anyone here know what type of ore drops Silver?

[unreal parcel]

Is that for ships and does it work?

[obtuse sigil]

for artisan skill crit should be like a crit a think chance to trigger 2 ticks instead of one instead of lower time to gather by milisecond

[obtuse sigil]

those are for caravan afaik they showed them on one of the streams

[thick acorn]

gathering hides and suddenly mayor come to gather same hides well i guess im done gathering tonight cause no possible way to compete agaist flying mount gatherers

stupid that u can fly with items in material tab

[hazy bloom]

Any tips for a scribe/alchemist ? What sells, what doesnt? Tried a few but i am missing a lot of the recipes. What was astounding for me was that common journeyman enchanting scrolls are selling. What do people even use those for ? Who enchants his common gear for 3g or so

[novel surge]

Alchemist would be basically any of the elixirs

Also, are emeralds a t2 drop requiring apprentice mining? Checking to see if I need to mine on an alt to farm some up

[lusty kindle]

emerald is journeyman mining if im not wrong

[novel surge]

Oh thats rough if so lol. I gotta get a bunch around for tailoring

[wide portal]

Emerald is drop chance from slate, which is t2

Get yourself a voidbreak pickaxe and mine slates

[novel surge]

Ah gotcha, so will probably need to get my fighter leveled a bit and start on mining. Slate is primarily in desert I think from what ive heard

Im on the fence about voidbreak and such only because of all the quality issues im hearing of and experiencing

Doesn't seem worth investing in atm

[wide portal]

Slate is global, you can find it anywhere

If you're after emerald, it might be best to stick to the riverlands

Because in areas that are not riverlands, slate has chance to drop regional mats which reduces the chances of you getting emerald

That said....if you can't find slate in the riverlands you might wanna go exploring indeed

[novel surge]

Yeah will definitely have to take a peek. Since it is only emerald im after, I wonder if im better off just selling herbs or maybe even wood and just buying them

[wide portal]

What's your apprentice profession? You can always drop that to novice and pick up mining in order to avoid leveling alts

[novel surge]

Yeah was considering it. Right now it is lumber milling and farming. Don't think I have a need for dried boards really so will probably drop that one

[wide portal]

Ye technically you can have all professions at apprentice with the caveat that you need to switch around every time

OR you can have 5 jm

[novel surge]

Well, 4 jm is the cap but yeah ive just been bouncing that last one around. Cant realistically do it with jm because I believe it'll drop you to 10 but haven't tried

Actually might just lock it at 20 since that is app max

[sweet elk]

He means you can have 3 JM and 2 at apprentice lvl 20 and just promote what you need when you need it

[round sun]

Anyone who knows what the flat increase to the ZOI quality, Master Tailoring storefront II gives?

[tawny ibex]

I'm trying to gather materials to make some mining skivvies, but I'm having trouble identifying where I have to go to get gryphon carcasses to process for hide/leather. The only place I know of them existing is in the mountains to the direct northeast of remnants of sephilon. Those are 1 star level 4 mobs, and I didn't see any that were gatherable after killing packs a few times. Is this the correct place to farm it, or is there a different spot with gryphons that are gatherable?

[quaint sundial]

Does anyone know how to get Journeyman Mining Pickaxe #4? It gives 137 quality and spoils? The recipe is only sold for #2, as far as I can see.
Judging by the crafting, Slagbreaker is initially green—it can't be increased to normal values.

[violet siren]

It may be disabled right now

[thick acorn]

gathering food realy not worth

1k quality
500 whites 100 greens 20 blues thats it after 30 min so far

[steady oar]

anyone got solid hunting leveling spots thatd be willing to share?

can dm me

[unreal parcel]

i was just about to ask if people thoroughly tested it, or if those evil crafters just advertise it good

Would be cool to have some transparency on these stats like "0.3% increased chance to upgrade quality" instead of vague numbers

[thick acorn]

1000 quality 1 hour logging
750 whites
210 greens 40 blues 5 yellows
-.-

[atomic mural]

Sand or Fragment Casino can pay out in gems. Need to be apprentice level tho so will require juggling on main or an alt.

[hazy bloom]

Could you do the same without ?

[winged plume]

i made a crate. but now i cant put anything in it or equip it. how do i actually use it

[rose bobcat]

is this site very accurate? Id hate to waste days of grinding mats to get uncommon instead of rare

[novel surge]

Ive been hearing good things but there's no 100% guarantee for any calc atm

[willow kestrel]

I did a few rounds of Lumbermilling/Carpentry last night to try to calculate the cost of getting journeymen - which I believe you need for radiant gear? I am getting 160g roughly to go from 1-20 does that sound right? Not sure what information is accurate. That is using commission XP scrolls for crafting.

[fervent hound]

does gathering rarity increase in lesser traffic areas?

[fast swan]

Wich site is that?

[novel surge]

Aocarmory

[main raft]

Id say closer to 80.

Carpentry sucks as you basically make crates then fishing rods. Unless you’re balling and buying straight timber you’ll also have wood processing costs. Getting +xp clothing and ensuring you have a crafting elixir as well as crafting scrolls is…necessary. Try to hit the towns with crafting XP boons that add %. Those can save you literally 10’s of gold.

You could also do apprentice bags from 10-20 which would cost you more mats but recoup the gold. You will want a weaver friend to make you the Bluebell thread.

[radiant ingot]

Valley next to Mira has gryphons. Huntables are RNG spawns

[tawny ibex]

I'll check that one out.

[willow kestrel]

Thanks Fleet! I have been trying to get this question answered forever. Hard to decide if it’s worth it for me

I think that confirms im more of a gatherer with a baby inrl 😂

[feral sentinel]

i can test this later today for u, i will be making a rare and ill use that calculator with my mats to see how accurate it is

ill be using these mats

[modest token]

Does mat mixing affect quality of crafted items or does it count the whole stack as the lowest quality used?

[novel surge]

Mixing has an effect

[silent dock]

is animal husbandry "breeding" in game yet?

[main raft]

Are LumberMILLING construction crates only craftable at Avens/Briarmoor? Seems so

[solemn gust]

Can anyone confirm which recipes for the JM mining//lumbering axe are actually in the game?

[hazy bloom]

enchanting scrolls. I thought and its in t he tooltip, that you can only upgrade gear at the tier of the scroll or lower but someone told me you can upgrade everything with a white scroll. Is that true ?

[dawn warren]

You still need journeyman scrolls to enchant radiant gear, but you don't have to match quality. So using common materials to make the scrolls is preferred

[hazy bloom]

ok but the tooltip says otherwise

so basically upgrading enchanting scrolls is useless ?

i mean a epic scroll is the same as a common one ?

[hazy bloom]

should have clicked here

[dawn warren]

The tool tip that says "grade"?

[dawn warren]

Yeah, the grade means initiate 1-10, adept 10-20, and radiant 20-30.

The quality (common-legendary) does not matter

[hazy bloom]

ok so is the rarity doing anything ?

or quality

ok

[dawn warren]

Not that I know of

[hazy bloom]

thank you very much 🙂

This game is a learning process 🙂 i allready know that i will start completely different afterthe wipe

[final halo]

Could someone tell me if I'm getting this right:
So this elixir requires me to use it BEFORE submitting my seeds/mulch/etc. Giving me a quicker time on them being finished. And then while still under the effects.. I would then collect potentially more of each?
really gotta min/max that hour lol

[pulsar ember]

Not 100% sure but my understanding is you only need the buff when the craft is started. In which case you'd want to just queue up as much as possible

[novel surge]

Correct

Give ya time to queue up in like 3-4 towns

[final halo]

Indeed, that makes it much better. Thank you!

[hazy bloom]

yeeah but how does the spoil part work ?

[final halo]

I would assume instantly calculated upon clicking craft

You just won't know how many they are until it's done

[hazy bloom]

just aksing because if you want more adventuring xp out of that you have to use a scroll right before you claim it, not at the beginning

but for this it would not make sence

sense

[final halo]

I've never considered using an adventuring scroll upon colletion haha. I do use processing ones however

[novel surge]

Yeah you would use the elixir to start the processing then adventure to claim

Speed and spoils are calculated at start

[hazy bloom]

you use the processing one before you start the craft

and adventuring ones before you claim that craft

perfect

[shell onyx]

Where would someone get the recipe for the other JM mining pickaxes?

[hazy bloom]

sadly most recipes seem to be world random drops

if someone has better information pls share

[mellow sky]

I`m trying to craft heroic Rosarium piece using common/legendary/uncommon with +870 quality from gear and elixir but it becomes rare

any1 knows whats happening as it should become heroic from my calcs..

are the elixirs of armorsmithing bugged?

[hazy bloom]

what do you base your calcs on ?

[mellow sky]

from ashes codex I see that it should push it to heroic

it works fine when making common to uncommon

[hazy bloom]

as far as i know those weights got changed for steam release. Dont know

[cedar moat]

do we know where the Ars Incantaris recipe drops?

[novel surge]

I got mine from carphin

[bold mirage]

Is the cheapest way to get adept tailors to make sails ?

[novel surge]

No

That might be the most expensive way actually

it doesn't work like ARK where you can make boats for giga exp. They give as much exp as like 2 armor pieces lol

[bold mirage]

Don’t sails require any gathered flower and any gathered wood ?

Or ami not reading right

[novel surge]

Yes, but 75 and 25 of those

Compared to this which is like half as much xp as the sails

Oops cut the name, Lost Soul Faulds

[gritty ginkgo]

that calculator been long outdated lol

[vast tide]

Ashes codex is not reliable. Use AoC armory. Still not perfect but pretty close.

[ivory mango]

any of you know where you can farm the slag breakers "mining" set pickaxe cloths bage etc.

[novel surge]

Befallen Forge but not sure if that is just a zone drop. Guild has had shirt and pants so far

[fast swan]

Hi guys i wonder where i can find heartstone? Is it in tropics?

[digital hinge]

Is basilisk hide used for anything?

[worldly zealot]

Where does the brightgrove set drop?

[ebon hamlet]

Please. Where can I find a lot of spindlevine. I spent 6 hours looking in wildport.

[worldly hemlock]

It seems slate and resonite stop spawning at Anwils several days ago😥 Anyone have same problem?

[lone glacier]

How good is this for Bards and Clerics?

[indigo widget]

can someone explain something to me? I had 5 apprentice artisan certifications, i promoted 1 to journeyman leaving me with 4 apprentice. why can i not not promote a novice to apprentice to reach the cap of 5 since the tooltip says to "increase or decrease another profession to progress this one" which implies that making room by promoting one should allow me to raise another but it doesnt

[main raft]

It's a funnel, not too clearly explained in game. But you can only ever have 5 above App

[indigo widget]

thats not just not clearly explained, that is the opposite of what it explains

[main raft]

Put it in the survey 🤣

[indigo widget]

i plan to

[main raft]

Nothing in this game is "clearly explained".

[wooden canyon]

Where does it explain the opposite ?

[indigo widget]

in the tooltip. as i stated

the option to increase another profession to be able to increase the desired one implies that going from apprentice to journeyman clears a spot for another apprentice

[hazy bloom]

Yeah like the grade thing with enchanting scrolls......higher quality enchanting scrolls are absolutely useless

[wide portal]

Anyone knows where I can find huntable wyrmlings

[crude grail]

i was looking fpr graveplate recipies: u can get em from jundark board commissions ...

anyone knows where i can get rosethorn and bloomwarden recipies ? board commissions too ? since i killed like 1000mobs at SB and didnt get a single recipe exept for 2 cooking ones

[crude grail]

guild hunters says on high plateau at desert

[hazy bloom]

Really. Board commissions ? thought those were all location specific random drops. hmmmm

[crude grail]

graveplate at least

[hybrid tundra]

Granite fragments completely useless......

[crude grail]

we just found it few minutes ago but 1 wildport commission gives u merchant crates as reward and those can cotain the recipies

i am just unsure about rosethorn an d bloomwarden since i cant get em to drop at SB

[wicked agate]

Is there a stats that increase the fishing succes rate on regular fishing?

[crude grail]

and yeh the hunt for caster gear suxx ass compared to my4 fully equipped phys chars

[hazy bloom]

yeah rosethorn would be great

[crude grail]

the sb comission gave me 7 white glint xD thats it ...

[hazy bloom]

accordingto codex the graveplate recipes drop basically from all mobs in jundark but the rosethron stuff only in steelbloom. The question now is really how does this translate to commissions

[crude grail]

we killed like all mobs in jundark for days is just not the truth

abd the comission reward crate says direectly graveplate recipe

i can confirm now ... we got the first graveplate recipie from mythbreak commission ...

i just dont know why intrepids keeps gating casters from gettin gear at the same pace like phys users ...

[wide portal]

You've been killing 20+ humanoids in SB and you didn't have a recipe drop?
I cannot confirm that all humanoids there drop it since I haven't farmed SB yet myself, but that honestly just screams "bad luck" if you've been farming them

[crude grail]

i got 2 cooking recipies and 1 rosarium recipe .. but nothing related to bloomwarden and rosethorn .. i am just looking for some confirmation that bloomwarden and rosethorn recipies drop from 20+ mobs at SB ...

[hazy bloom]

Would love to know that too. I mean they must drop somewhere 🙂

[steady oar]

anyone know where to upgrade professions in anvils? i go to master leatherworker and he just says farewell

[hazy bloom]

Either in bonfire or hammer-something or if there are the according buildings allready build in the cities

Jesus my english today is on another level of bad ^^

[vague canopy]

tbf so many things are due to change it's barely worth explaining anything

everything is a placeholder in the tooltips, im guessing

[fossil kernel]

Can confirm, those recipes drop off the 20+ humanoids in sb

[hazy bloom]

have you ever seen the journeyman scroll of adventuring xp recipe ? I am looking so hard for it. Must be a freaking random drop and only 1 guy has it

[dawn warren]

Higher level gear can't truly drop. Only level 23 stuff. There is like a ridiculously small chance from 3 stars.

Though if you're talking about recipes, they do in fact drop from the level 20 enemies there

[fresh urchin]

Where are some good places to raise hunting?

[crude grail]

all right ... seemingly with a really really really really low drop rate or i and my crew are really really really really unblucky .. thanks anyways !!

[dawn warren]

For the recipes?

[crude grail]

yes

[dawn warren]

Yeah. Focus only on the lvl 20 enemies. It also doesn't help that there's 24 different recipes people are looking for and they can drop other ones. Fastest way is with a raid and just farm as many as fast as possible

[modest token]

Anybody know where dreadwake emblems/recs drop? I know jungle but is there a specific poi they drop around?

[dawn warren]

Should be any enemies over 20 in the jungle. Emblems just have a low drop rate

[modest token]

Okay, thank you. I didn't know if emblems were mob-specific

[dawn warren]

Shouldn't be. I've heard verdance ruins is the most consistent for recipes though.

[modest token]

I'm so tired of verdance ruins lol I'm going to mess around with the mobs outside lost abyss. Thank you very much for your help ❤️

[crude grail]

the pirates around the entrance of verdance ruins drop recipes very frequent

[digital hinge]

How much are flailrunner's going for atm?

[modest token]

depends on realm probably

[cunning lynx]

Which expansion is needed to buy the journeyman tool belts?

[cunning granite]

Anyone know if Master Chef 1 cookhouse upgrade provides anything other than vendor foods?

[main raft]

First 10 trees, its either gonna be a great run, or awful from here out.

[novel surge]

Went to grab some basic rocks for a crate run. Got 2 epic procs during that process lol

[glass blaze]

It would be good if we could combine shirts. You buy hunting and herbal shirt and bind it somehow in a shirt UI wardrobe or bind power of shirts via tailoring.

It's a little awkward to change shirts going from say farming to cooking or tanning to weaving etc. In an RP sense it is awkward and in a practical gameplay sense.

[low wave]

Anyone on Shol selling Tailor pants or skivvies?

[low wave]

Recipes from commission chests have been pretty rare so that is rather lucky

[crude grail]

btw mythbreak commission drops gravplate. my bad sry

[novel surge]

@hot token Is snowdrop somewhat uncommon up there? Ran a guild crate then listed some cheap snowdrop and sold weirdly fast lol

[gilded turret]

did mining spoils break when they disabled node buffs? Saw zero spoils procs in 3hrs of mining with ~700 spoils

[fervent hound]

how much are leggo rough ruby going for?

[hazy bloom]

where do we get iron from ?

[hot token]

I may have been buying all of it.

So the market is mostly empty

[hazy bloom]

mostly empty is an understatement 🙂

[hot token]

People tend to go to daff lane so snowdrops are slightly rarer

[novel surge]

I know you talked about being broke haha so wasnt sure if you were also the one on top of all of the lego flowers

I could normally check joeva/halc/win for lego flowers just to see if there any somewhat reasonably priced and there just arent any at all for almost the past week

Aside from the occasional crazy bluebell at like 10g ea lol. Though I am wishing I had grabbed that spindlevine for 4g ea

[hot token]

Def should have

Prépare your pockets, you're gonna come to vhal this weekend it seems

[novel surge]

[hot token]

By respect I won't list in halcy, but the emporium will restock for a final green/blue gatherer app shirts run. Should be enough to crowdfund the last 40 or so gold need for weaver upgrades

[novel surge]

Yeah I have really been bad about making any app bags/shirts lately. Really should because I am kinda broke in terms of paying for processing. But just kinda dumped it all into shirt prep

[dawn warren]

A few of the t3 stones like limestone

[hazy bloom]

i heard you can get some with metalworking and destroying some stuff like slate but i did not find it in the tooltip

[hot token]

Markets are empty where ever I go so it's not just you. The emporium has been the largest contributor it seems.

[novel surge]

Yeah my problem with making anything ahead of time is that normally I was spending a bunch so any money I got on my to-order crafts, went right back into mats. So I was never confident in listing shirts/bags in towns lol

Especially since some people were consistently listing at like 10% above cost

[dawn warren]

Yes, sanding tier 3 mats will also do it. Either way you gotta hit t3 stones

If you open metalworking and search for sand, then look at journeyman ones, it'll show you all the options you can get from them

[hazy bloom]

ohhhh ok so its journeyman 🙂 thx for the info

[silent dock]

does runic steed spawn in the wild, huntable?

[shell onyx]

Where to get the "Recipe: Elixir of Mining"

[sonic ridge]

working on a map of sportfishing spots in riverlands

anywhere im missing?

[shell onyx]

Where to get the Recipe: Elixir of Mining

[hot token]

Well you're missing anvils

[sonic ridge]

just doing riverlands for now

[atomic mural]

SE of the Carphin one before the river to Mira - WNW of the spot you have on the border of Joe/NA (between the three island chain - the lower gap) - NE of the Halcyon one where the T intersection is - 8 all up - no ms paint access atm

[surreal linden]

where do I make the ship hull that you equip to the actual ship? I can only see the only you use to make the ship in the first place in the carpentry bench, and the other one is still in the carpentry crafting menu?

[latent hull]

Feels like i'm wasting my time with mining

15 silvers per run is just sad

[wicked agate]

Can someone share a link that explain the quality feature in crafting pls

[thick acorn]

realy wish it was easier to target farm recipes -.- the 2 recipes im chasing are like off a a handful of mobs and they just dont wanna drop 😄

[woeful bronze]

miraleth has one south of the one you have marked, kind straight south of the tower in that openarea there

[woeful bronze]

the old ways were much better but intrepid chose to universalise everything

[thick acorn]

went to try a cloth physical armor build but all the cloth physical recipes are in the worst mobs to farm/kill

mistglean apparently drops from tropics spiders/vampire bats and thats basicly it which are all spread out over the place and vamp bats are overtuned.
The duneflare is super rare drop from 1-2 mobs in the desert whcih are 2 stars

only cloth physical set lol

they could have like all mobs drops torn sandsqual desert recipes and u can trade them in for the specific desert recipe u want based on how many needed. atleast u can get the recipes u want then :p

[frank storm]

Hey, anyone know where to find the Apprentice adventuring exp scroll recipe? Is it a drop only?

[brisk vessel]

Is it possible to gamble wyrdstone into anything?

[dapper basin]

You can buy a Roasted Chicken (+Mag Power) from the JM Cooking vendor, cheaper than you can make one from scratch. (not an isolated instance).

Please make cooking great at some point >_<

And so many recipes still offer 0 stats, be wary of what you buy, check your stats and take a screenshot prior to eating.

Bug report if no changes. Please and ty.

[hazy bloom]

Its supposed to be an econ game. So i really dont see any reason why vendors would sell the same stuff you make. Its the same for potions.

[dreamy spear]

is this a known issue that Craftsman's Casserole doesn't work? I have green carpentry elixir (458 quality) on which does work and 72 quality from clothes.

[vague canopy]

You can search the bug reports channel, right?

[sonic ridge]

updated map of sportfishing spots in the riverlands

[vague canopy]

Thank you!

[thick acorn]

game need a pity system 😛 every 1000 ash tree u ghit ur garanteed a lego or epic hit hahaha

i am yet to see a legendary hit on a t1 tree and my lumberjack 45 😄

[hazy bloom]

hmm did they something with the quality ^^ 2 hours of mining, not a single epic and only 5 heroic

[thick acorn]

they realy need a pity system haha atleast i know ill get osmething eventually lol

[normal otter]

There should be an expensive way of upgrading common to uncommon, uncommon to rare, or something of that nature.

Technically the harbingers is a system like that.

[thick acorn]

ivebeen sugesting that for ages let us turn 10 wood into a green wood then 10 green wood into a blue wood and so on for example

[normal otter]

Personally, I am waiting for the artisan skill trees to come out. You can already some placeholder stuff in your character page.

[edgy zephyr]

Has Someone an Pic of an Epic Journeyman Mining Pickaxe with Quality and Spoils ? would love to know if that Pickaxe is better then the Voidbreaker

[normal otter]

I think the ratios should be higher, but I agree with that system.
There should be a reward for getting 9 stacks of common that fill up a journeyman bag. (More than just vendor trash.)

You already can

[thick acorn]

still got artisan skill tree that boost things further

[normal otter]

Why you erase, now I look like a jackass talking to myself

(Just kidding lmao)

[thick acorn]

i just use those numbers as example devs has better idea on what to choose as correct number

[thick acorn]

quoted it for wrong reply got ahead of myself 😛 cant edit a quote out im pretty sure

[novel surge]

The quality increase from the casserole is at the top of your pic?

[dreamy spear]

yes I've consumed it as you can see in my buffs bar@novel surge

[novel surge]

Unless you have 399 from something else

[dreamy spear]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1459176711647264984

[dreamy spear]

all the other crafting quality was 0

[novel surge]

Casserole gives generic quality which is at the top

[dreamy spear]

oh, had no idea

[novel surge]

That is the part I was asking about

[dreamy spear]

let me double check

[dreamy spear]

how does that quality even work? is it just added to the any other specified crafting quality?

it didn't increase my crafted stats at all

yes it did increase general quality but it didn't work on crafting

I will rephrase my ticket

[lusty siren]

is there any reason to go to grandmaster in any profession?

[novel surge]

Yeah that is my understanding of how it should work. But the currently implementation is weird

With all the food

Like, why do generic and profession specific foods have the same amounts? If it works identically, then anything other than the generic would be a waste

[dreamy spear]

so at the moment it does nothing

[hazy bloom]

No quality does lower the threshhold of a quality upgrade. It does not give you better stats. You basically need less epic ressources to make something epic

[hot token]

Imagine being broke on the day of weaving + tailoring upgrade. I can't even afford to craft JM bags or shirts. The emporium is ruined.

300g+ of mars prepared, can't afford to use it.

[novel surge]

Yeah sadly I think the start is gonna be making shirts to order then going from there

Since it is like 28s per recipe and 25s per craft

[hazy bloom]

well im constantly broke so what should i say ^^

[novel surge]

It is supposed to do both. Change rarity of material requirements and have better stat rolls within that tier's range

[hazy bloom]

is it ? thats new to me. But would be great

[novel surge]

Otherwise there wouldnt be much reason to have a stat range for crafted items

But yeah I get the feeling the generic stat boosts might not be working quite as intended. It is hard telling

[hot token]

Essentially, the stat range boost how far into that tier the quality boosts you

So let's say, for example sake that 100 quality would give you uncommon, and the item give 100 of a stat at common, and 150 at uncommon, having 99 quality would give you 145ish of that stat while the item being common

[novel surge]

Do we know that for sure? If so, then mat cheesing only seems mildly worth it to just get the color you are hoping for

I was under the impression they were separate. So like if you are 2% into epic, but high quality, you can still roll high on the quality stat range

[bright salmon]

Question about Armorsmithing. I am journeyman armorsmith and tried to craft a Graveplate armor in Miraleth at the journeyman smithy, but it didnt show me the recipe to craft the armor. In the requirements of the receipt it says Certification, Jungle and Smithy Service Building. Do I have to be in the jungle to craft the item?

[radiant ingot]

Yes you would need go to a jungle biome

[bright salmon]

Thanks for the reply, although players are selling this armor on my server, but none of the jungle cities does have a journeyman smithy ... hows that possible?

[radiant ingot]

Assuming Jundark and other jungle towns really are underdeveloped, unless there’s a misunderstanding with the description you’re seeing—and it can be crafted elsewhere—I’m not sure. There are certainly biome-locked recipes though, that is a thing in the game you’ll run into

[woeful bronze]

I'm not in game ATM to look at graveplate specifically but if it's stating jungle (jundark) certification and smithy service building then yes to craft it would need to be done at a smithing building in a town in the jundark area but thats specifically to craft the item, the area things are crafted they can also drop on mobs so while your server may not have a jundark smithy doesn't stop people getting graveplate items as a drop

[hidden gale]

can any1 explain me how that enchanting works? is it just for specific items? because here it does just nothing

[woeful bronze]

Enchanting is meant to increase the numbers on the stats but you aren't the first I've seen have no change on specifically voidbreak, I'll say same to as I have others, bug report so they are able to fix it

[hidden gale]

thanks, ill try it out with another item 🙂

[novel surge]

Double check your stats panel too

Could just be a tooltip bug

[woeful bronze]

I haven't confirmed with people via their stat panels but the several accounts of people saying enchanting not working everyone has been voidbreakrr so visual issue or fully broken seems specific to voidbreak

[hidden gale]

nope stats are the same, no display bug

[woeful bronze]

Did you happen to enchant any other items? Did their stats change? You don't have enchant just for the answers but I haven't enchanted yet to confirm it's just voidbreak yet but it's only item I've seen people mention

[novel surge]

Have had people say it about a couple different tools

[vague canopy]

Are there any sport fishing events in the desert?

[woeful bronze]

I've not seen any in desert yet in my limited time searching

[queen stratus]

Does anyone have a list of what settlements on vyra have what higher level benches?

[sonic ridge]

updated map for riverlands sportfishing, if im missing any spots lemme know

[main raft]

If I want Zinc/Copper, can I sand casino blue/epic/heroic basalt,granite,volcanic at **Novice ** Doesn't show in the rewards, but you know, AOC

[atomic mural]

It's a chance of rolling it and it shows in the P menu - can also add volcanic and dead coral - also if you want rubbies try the Stonemason Frag Casino

[eager quest]

Yeah you can, just did some last night

[ionic charm]

anybody who wants 3g to press the button when i have mats for armorsmithing is insane..

[sinful bane]

You're paying for their ability to click that button

Which means it's most likely a radiant combine given the state of itemization and drops, so they did 20 levels of losing increasingly more money per combine tier skilling up to get to that point to be able to click something that players actually put a value to bother making.

[ionic charm]

oh i get it but its my mats, plus processing plus a guaranteed 3G plus tip

just got someone to do it for way cheaper so

[final tendon]

Question: I see people selling craftman's casserole with heroic quality. Since it requires chicken meat, and the only way I know to produce that with a certain quality is with animal husbandry with quality, do people use that loop? It seems a money/luck sink

[sinful bane]

There are lots of MMO players that just go with the flow or 'my time is free' , or any other number of reasons they charge what they charge. I was explaining why you were asked to pay for that click, the reasoning still stands. The crafting cost for some of the adept crap is like 2.3g on it's own as well. You'll see the same thing with husbandry and the mount lotto especially right now.

And it's a test period with an impacted economy from a myriad of hyper-inflationary sources, so that's also becoming a factor quickly.

If it's a drop recipe or gated somehow as well can factor into things.

[ionic charm]

oh i do get it but it is what it is

[sinful bane]

Yeah things are wild right now, kind of wild into a brick wall in a sense

And the fact the market mechanics are total dog water doesn't help

[cinder bridge]

Anyone had a bug where animal husbandry wont upgrade to apprentice? at the trainer, have 10 tried to relog nothing happens

[frank tapir]

do you have 5 apprentice skills already?

[silent dock]

is there any actual difference between mount tiers for example common scorpion vs epic (purple)

[worldly zealot]

No right now. Think this will be changed in the future though

[silent dock]

okay will hang on to my purple mounts for now then

[hidden bear]

I've got a recipe that requires 3 inputs. If I do 2 at Epic, 1 at Rare, how much quality would I need to get an item to Purple? Is that big of a jump possible? I tried to use the online calculator, but it's advising that it may be inaccurate.

[novel surge]

Would recommend using this one https://aocarmory.com/crafting-calculator

[hidden bear]

Good lookin out. Thank you!

[cinder bridge]

I did like an idiot

[digital hinge]

Are basi hides used for literally anything?

[novel surge]

Always fun when people effectively work to crash the market within an hour of the market existing

[unreal parcel]

Hey does a cow die when being milked?
trying to calculate prices beforehand to see what ingredients to prep until i reach higher level

[digital hinge]

Whats the best way to level up to JM Arcane Engineering?

[thick acorn]

eternal farm for a recipe -.-

[heady grove]

does anyone know if you can actually get the journeyman Minining pickaxe with the quality stat?

it shows in the list when you push p

[wraith tendon]

Yes, when the stoneworks upgrades it's mining vendor

[heady grove]

every one posted on the market is the speed one so i was wondering if its actually bugged

[ornate vault]

does anyone know if the ashes codex build planner shows set bonuses in the stats?

[shell furnace]

is Birds of Paradise Apprentice orJourneyman?
its looking like JM checking the bolt ingredients but why is it being used on wavecutter bow, where as a same level glorybound shortbow only uses apprentice plant moonbell...

[torn axle]

what is the best profession for goldmaking, in your opinion?

[jovial turret]

Does it make a difference if I fish in a lake or river regarding the chance of what fish I get? e.g. I get more laremouth bass than bluegill in a river

[earnest storm]

May I ask if anyone has a regular schedule for fishing activities? I waited by the lake for four hours yesterday but no fish showed up

[vague canopy]

There are 10+ spots in the map and one event lasts an hour after activate. 4 hours is not enough.

[earnest storm]

Is seawater and fresh water shared?

[atomic mural]

Either call out and pray for an answer // do laps till you find one // camp the one closest to the cookhouse building and just wait till it pops with normal fishing

[earnest storm]

Thank you

[earnest storm]

"Flying Heaven Hanging"

[coarse crane]

Huntable Alligators still dont exist.

[soft dagger]

Hey Fishing Bros! Have you noticed different yield / fish quantities based upon location? Or pretty much the same quantity no matter where you fish?

[soft dagger]

Trying to maximize my Lamprey vendor gains

[blazing ruin]

Why do i never find any new novice recipes from drops or on the market?

[lean swan]

hey is there some hidden quality on crafting components like ingots? or does only the final rarity of the ingot matter?

[hidden bear]

Ive seen crocs in the desert?

[coarse crane]

Needs to be alligators specifically for their carcasses. I don't think they are in game yet. Was like that last phase.

[atomic mural]

I vendor them. Market slots are limited and used for full stacks or valuable items.

[blazing ruin]

I would think there would be at least one. Its seems they dont exist beyond a couple though. Like purifier armor, glenwarden, undermarch etc

I've only seen 2nd division, bastion, verdant yoke and verdant yoke almost never

[woeful bronze]

There are recipes that do exist but most are bypassed either by people farming other mobs for xp or the fact that people get to ten fast enough and need adept gear that novice gear just isn't worth time or mats with tutorial quest chain giving you gear almost equal to novice crafted stuff

[blazing ruin]

Would be useful for leveling crafting

I dont really feel like making 1000 2nd division trash

[woeful bronze]

So you prefer to make 1900 verdant yoke trash after spending extra time trying to get the emblems?

[blazing ruin]

Emblems I can buy cheap

I'd make a variety of things

Decent money selling verdant yoke so far

[woeful bronze]

You wanna make more work for yourself then feel free i can't stop you but your literally asking for more work and less effecincy to do the exact same thing

[blazing ruin]

I play for fun

[woeful bronze]

So why you leveling skills then, system is designed that getting to apprentice is work and work isn't fun so following your logic you should give up crafting

If you wanna call it fun you can make 1000 2nd division and hand me so coin

[blazing ruin]

I find it fun to make a variety of things and sell them to people who want them. Leveling is to be ablento make even more things

[woeful bronze]

Let me guess you haven't even looked at crafting region variants?

[blazing ruin]

I have. I've only seen 2.5 novice armors after many hours searching. Hence my ask

[woeful bronze]

How do you see half an armour?

[blazing ruin]

Only 2 verdant yoke recipes. I dont known if the rest exist

But vebdor sells 2nd div and bastion

[woeful bronze]

And you checked vendors in all regions?

[blazing ruin]

Not all, but most

HENCE MY ASK

[sweet pivot]

guys crafting worth to try? i heard a lot of crafters not earning gold

[blazing ruin]

If you dont know, then fine

[woeful bronze]

Let me approach this another way.. is your character over level 10 urzen?

[blazing ruin]

Yes

[woeful bronze]

If you enjoy crafting it is worth but it is gold sink and mats sink and time to get to apprentice and even more to journeymen and depending on the trade you need atleast one these ranks before you can make anything you can sell for a profit but I enjoy my crafting but it does take money and time investment to achieve

[woeful bronze]

And how long from starting did it take you to get to 10

[blazing ruin]

A week

[woeful bronze]

So in a game that's designed around year and years of playing you want the thing that takes a week to be so worked on that you can have over 100 different recipes just cos you don't wanna repeat craft something?

[blazing ruin]

I want to know if those other recipes even exist. Thats all

[woeful bronze]

Press P, everything there exists

[blazing ruin]

I've seen no evidence of that

[woeful bronze]

and what cos you killed a mob and it didnt drop 100 recipes then it mustnt exist?

[blazing ruin]

Move along

[atomic mural]

Townboard mission reward chests seem to be where most of them come from and I think maybe around L13 the apprentice level drops get added to the loot table.
I didn't do as many in Anvils as I've done in Riverlands as it's pretty obnoxious up north to level via that path. Down south it's been easier as the mob density and levels are less/lower.
I imagine you need to use low level toons to focus the loot pool on those novice drops.

[blazing ruin]

Yeah I checked all those commissions coffers too. They all say 2nd div or bastion is anvil in the description and I've not had anything else come put of them. I would think if farming mobs dropped them someone would at least crafting and selling the armor, but who knows.

Im not going to waste time on it anymore

[merry lantern]

Which one of those is Dracaena?

[sweet elk]

the invisible one 🙂

[tacit reef]

any arcane engineers on shol able to help me make a blue focus, got the recipe

[supple orbit]

is there any master or grandmaster recipes for armor or weapons? do i have to find them or is whats shown in artisan page all thats available

[lusty kindle]

this is grandmaster stuff we have atm i guess there is not much more in the master and gm category because of the levelcap we have

we have more item grades later

@supple orbit

[lean swan]

so whats the strat for making armor molds. what sohuld i downgrade/upgrade to make high tier armor molds? any tips?

[cerulean relic]

Don’t do it

[merry lantern]

true

[supple orbit]

thats actually massively disappointing and i feel ive been wasting my time, sorta pointless to do this stuff all i see it as is a compromise cause they didnt do more for it faster and that leads me to question what seriously caused things to not be as developed as it makes it seem... way too much future planning, just like the wiki you cant tell wtf is in or not so stupid to have journey level require grand master tables.... just wow

[lusty kindle]

its higher ilvl stuff it makes sense
we are just at half the level we could be so wouldnt matter if you could craft lvl 30 gear

[novel surge]

Yeah a large part of it is that we dont know if a lot of this stuff will even be in these brackets. Having a feeling of wasted time is sort of silly to have in an alpha especially if you arent looking through the things you want to craft and what they require

We are buying in to an alpha, in a sense to waste our own time. Just make sure you are providing feedback in the relevant locations. Also ignore the wiki since it isn't something that is officially from Intrepid. That is all community managed

[supple orbit]

you upgrade another steam account since they didnt want to do anything to transfer to alts and no i wont count using guilds cause we shouldnt have to deny guildmates storage access just to transfer to an alt which you cant transfer money anyways yet again too much future planning with crap compromises just to get more people on, if they dont crack down on development then people are gonna get tired and move on, its got alot of promise but i dont think too much has changed from the last build before it hit steam aside from summoner class..

[supple orbit]

thers no ilvl this isnt wow

@lusty kindle since you wanna face paml my statement where do you see ilvl, it is NOT the grade: adept thats your lvl bracket to equip said gear so whats this ilvl please explain

[lusty kindle]

the item i posted has higher material need, higher station requirement and higher stats as the other items its really obvious

[supple orbit]

thats not item level that quality straight from new world and even FF14

[lusty kindle]

quality is something different here

[supple orbit]

item lvl is a COMPLETELY different system not dealt with at all in this game just cause it has higher stats doesnt mean its ilvl based you may consider it that in your own words but thas not whats actually is in the game

[lusty kindle]

but you did understand it so whats the issue ?

it has no name at all here

[broken heron]

ilvl exists

[lusty kindle]

other people call it tier1 - 2 -3 so if it has no official naming i dont really care how you call it

[broken heron]

Moltruin armor is ilvl 23, rosarium is ilvl 26. Both are radiant grade gear

[sweet elk]

Equally the website most of the player base uses, defines it as item level 23 26 and 29 gear..

[supple orbit]

plain and simple ilvl is not a factor in this game case and point im not going back and forth with you on this theres no number on character page refering to ilvl nothing on item tooltip, like you jsut said its from wow not this so dont even use it its a made up stat in this game all youre gonna do is confuse ppl so i suggest using a differnt term

[lusty kindle]

others disagree with you 🤷‍♂️

[broken heron]

Moltruin gear is item level 23. Rosarium gear is item level 26 and has higher base stats. I think it’s pretty clear that ilvl exists

[supple orbit]

like protesters in a street just wanting to get their way, youre literally just trying to get people to call it what you want/ what you heard others call it which they too are wrong, im betting its a content creator that you followed like a sheep, so again you can accept that or not, but you will forever have someone question where this stat or number is and will require more explanation when you could just find a more upfront way to label it something actually in game but be stubborn not my problem

[broken heron]

What are you arguing

[novel surge]

Old man yelling at clouds moment

[lusty kindle]

now he namecalls me wtf....

[novel surge]

If you want to argue so heavily against it, then give it a term you feel should be use

Because there is extremely obvious "tiering"

Especially considering drop sources

[supple orbit]

by calling you a sheep? its a reference people seemingly like you here one thing from a content creator and you let them lead you like a sheep its a comparison get over it

[lusty kindle]

i never watched a single content creator for ashes but ok

[supple orbit]

just cause an item has more stas than another doesnt mean its ilvl based yall are literally delusional at this point ilvl is not a number anywhere in the game its self imposed

[sweet elk]

there is very much tiers of gear, which have higher stat pools the higher you go up. Whatever you want to label them. Within a grade.

[novel surge]

Yeah it is not strictly "ilvl" but there is definitely distinct tiering, regardless of what it ends up called

[supple orbit]

my god a white mace and orange of same name has vastly different stats this is QUALITY based not ilvl based you got some hollow skulls if you cant comprehend that you clearly never played NW and it shows

[sweet elk]

though the website built entierly on datamining the files calls it Item Level 😄

[novel surge]

You are talking about something entirely different lmao

[supple orbit]

again your trying to give it a term that has to aplication in this game so just dont use it your wrong accept it

[lusty kindle]

quality is a different thing in this game dude

[novel surge]

quality/rarity != tiering

[sweet elk]

i think youre trying to apply the wow term to a system that is different.. when everyone here understands its very different

[supple orbit]

mf you literally just told me that stats are what effect ilvl and its obvious do i need to clip it for you?

[lusty kindle]

it is

[sweet elk]

ilevel affects base stat pools

[lusty kindle]

you just ignore it

[sweet elk]

rarity is a multipler to those base stat pools

[lusty kindle]

funny you are here for a year and have no clue

[supple orbit]

youre a god damn broken record dude talking in circle to seem right im fucking done with you my god

[novel surge]

Aran, what would you propose it gets called

[lusty kindle]

you get corrected by several people and im in the wrong sure

[broken heron]

Ilvl 23 vs 26 clearly different tiers

Please

[supple orbit]

sure use tiers cause thats more apparent in game ILVL is not a factoring stat/ number in this game your dead set on using wow terms prove me wrong on that

[novel surge]

These are also two items that are in the same level bracket. Both require the same stats and are the same type of weapon. One is very clearly a tier above the other. What would you call the difference?

[lusty kindle]

wow is not the only game on this planet with item level get your head out of your ass

[supple orbit]

you are literally dead set on using a wow term that IS a number value used in that game BUT NOT used here its self imposed and youre too narrowminded to accept that

[supple orbit]

you literally said it was a term from wow yourself

[lusty kindle]

you started this wow thing

[novel surge]

Why are you dead-set on not answering my question lol

[lusty kindle]

because he has no clue

[broken heron]

Just ignore and move on 30 minutes later we can’t wrap our head around ilvl being a thing

[novel surge]

Has yet to address a single thing I said, even taking "ilvl" out of the equation

[supple orbit]

this comes from ones crafting skill which is a massive thing in NW and the stats those clothes provide this does not have anything to do with ilvl you need to look up what ilvl means

[novel surge]

I am not talking about ilvl right now, you are

Both of these are from the crafting skill, yes. But they are also both dropped items

[supple orbit]

then what fucking question are you asking me i replied to the latest thing you posted

[novel surge]

I am not sure why you feel the need to swear at me when being asked a question.

I am asking how you would distinguish the "tiers" of these items

Since there are numerous different names that fall into the same bracket

[supple orbit]

that has nothing to do with ilvl, we will keep using wow as an example since its the easiest to explain theres no variations between ilvl on the items in wow ilvl doesnot effect stats if its crafted their finesse and other prof stats can increas said items stats THE ILVL IS NOT EFFECT, here thers nothing indicating ilvl is a number accured ANYWHERE its self imposed by people that heard it from somewhere else trying to generalize a term that has no place in this game its not hard to understand but you few are literally being the most comabative about it justifying it by going in circle talking about stats well ilvl is a fucking stat and that stat is NOT IN GAME jesus fucking christ

[lusty kindle]

ashescodex.com is not self imposed by people hearing it somewhere

[novel surge]

I have not talked once about ilvl being what should be used. But ilvl in wow and "ilvl" being referenced by others here for Ashes are two entirely different things

[supple orbit]

yes... it is

[sweet elk]

ashes codex has been used since phase 1 by the majority of the community and is datamined from the files

[supple orbit]

used by sheep, some creator used a term that doesnt fit the game and just like sheep yall use it with no reasoning i rest my case

[lusty kindle]

you dont know what datamining is ?

[sweet elk]

item level are 2 words that mean more than just what people who play wow use them as

[supple orbit]

im not taling to you about anything else unless you want to be rational and realize ilvl is a stat from other games and isnt used here you rfuse to listen to reason what makes you think i wanna listen to you anymore

[sweet elk]

noone in ashes uses ilvl in the same way as they do in wow

it doesnt mean the same thing

[novel surge]

Yeah those are absolutely different systems

[sweet elk]

none of are using ilvl in the way wow uses it

and seemingly everyone else understands each other

[supple orbit]

then call it something differen cause the entire thing i was pointing out still stans your gonna confuse ppl and theyll go looking for this imaginary stat, its w/e

no one using ilvl the way wow does it cause its not an actual thing here you guys just dont wanna call it something more accurate

[sweet elk]

its not imaginary. its the name of the tier of gear in radiant that is item level 23, item 26 and item level 29 gear. which we use the shorthand ilvl for

[novel surge]

That is just what it is called in the game files. Propose a different term that people call the tiering if it gets under your skin so much and it may or may not change how they call it

[supple orbit]

it ssorta is is made up cause nw did the same shit its not called ilvl there

[sweet elk]

however intrepid have labelled the field item level.

you think the 23 26 and 29 numbers weve just invented?

its very odd numbers to decide on

[supple orbit]

tier quality rarity (those are 2 different things) rarity would be color green to orange quality would govern stats

tier would be lvl bracket

[lusty kindle]

no

[novel surge]

So would T23 and ilvl 23 not be the same thing

[supple orbit]

see now we in a circle again you refuse to listen to reason

[sweet elk]

if you want to be so pedantatic, there is no tier (level bracket) theres grade.

grade is what level you need to be to equip it

[novel surge]

Well, we are taking a slight step back with that

Grade is the level bracket yes

[supple orbit]

see now youre getting it thats displayed in game

[novel surge]

But there is still distinct tiering

[sweet elk]

item level, is a class on the item when looking in the file that defines the size of the stat pool

[novel surge]

If we called something tier 23 or ilvl 23, it would be the same exact thing

[supple orbit]

in just the stat numbers? that would be quality my dude

[sweet elk]

no

rarity is the multiplier

[novel surge]

quality/rarity would refer strictly to the color

[supple orbit]

wow even did it with their updated profs system

[supple orbit]

rarity is color

dingbat

[sweet elk]

which defines a multiple of the base stats

well a range of multipiers

[supple orbit]

but not ilvl

[sweet elk]

the ilvl defines the base stats

[supple orbit]

which is made up in this game

[novel surge]

So this is common, of course, still Initiate and tier 9 or ilvl 9

[supple orbit]

where ilvl on that pic

[novel surge]

The 9

[sweet elk]

this is such an odd hill to die on

[novel surge]

This is legendary, still initiate, still tier 9 or ilvl 9

[supple orbit]

if its not explicitly called ilvl at this point where never gonna see eye to eye cause your too damn stubborn

[novel surge]

I don't care what anyone decides to call it lol. Item level is the internal term that Intrepid uses to categorize tiering within level brackets

I am not arguing for one name or another

[supple orbit]

likely tier cause ilvl is not a number the way yall are describing ilvl is that itll fluctuate on several factors quality rarity tier and w/e else yall may have said, none of this boils down to the term ilvl which is a stat in most games that use it and im sorry but its not used here yall just think it is cause you cant think of a different term and or used some 3rd party guide website to let it lead you, like a sheep

[novel surge]

The problem is you're trying to apply systems from different games into this one

[lusty kindle]

he overreads that its datamined and actual in the files its funny ^^

[supple orbit]

idgaf what its called but i will point out its not an actual stat maybe be similar to other games in a way but its different her eand is not ilvl im sorry lol

[novel surge]

I want you to be honest if you understand what datamining is

It is fine if you don't

[novel surge]

So the first two of that are correct but not the 3rd

Reflects stat budget and determines potential but not requirements/sorting

[supple orbit]

oh here we go hes about to tell you where youre wrong for 30 mins and be narrow minded

[novel surge]

The thing is, I haven't called anyone names. You have.

I am trying to explain a difference in systems/understanding

Attempting to get everyone on the same page.

[supple orbit]

narrow minded isnt name calling comparing actions to sheep isnt name calling dude your soft im sorry grow up

[novel surge]

I didn't say narrow minded was a name although calling someone a sheep is literally name-calling. As well as dingbat. But I also don't care about those lmao

[supple orbit]

narrowminded is describing how youre acting not seeing reason im sorry you dont like the term

but i guess it doesnt apply or may be different like ilvl right?

[novel surge]

Except you are refusing to take in different information and form an opinion based on that. Which is literally the definition of narrow-minded lol

[supple orbit]

lets explore that for a bit im tired of ilvl cause id have more luck getting through a brick wall

as are you

[quick hearth]

yeah, i know wow uses it as a benchmark to reach before allowing you to do certain content, not sure about other games, it's an ai just summarizing

[novel surge]

Do you know what datamining is?

We have to get past this hurdle to get anywhere

[supple orbit]

refusing to take anything into consideration you claimed it come from datamining and or the first alpha build you and dismissing any reason, like seriously

[novel surge]

I haven't dismissed anything

I am explaining differences in understanding to see if we can reach a common ground and see where the breakdown in communication might be.

[supple orbit]

yeah you have lmao if you cant see it then youre very narrow minded

a description not name calling before you go there kid

[novel surge]

Already said someone being told they are being narrow-minded isn't name calling

But do you understand what datamining is?

This is a genuine question, not trying to talk down or anything like that.

[supple orbit]

we will forever be in this circle adiuva, lmfao your are defiantly a kid, i said what i needed to say im not getting into a convo with you, youre delusional if you thik i wanna chat with someone like you, crazy so combative when its not seen youre way, i was being logical and trying to use reason but you wanted to justify it caue its what someone else called it so you followed, you refused to listen to reason, yeahwe aint having a convo about what you want now nuh uh

[novel surge]

A lot of this really just feels like kind of an odd misunderstanding

[supple orbit]

lmao

[supple orbit]

then maybe see where im cvoming from but thats ships sailed

[novel surge]

Can you not answer my question?

[supple orbit]

im not answering about an off topic question of datamining no

[novel surge]

That is 1000% on-topic?

It is, like, the primary basis of this entire discussion

You can go with just yes or no for the answer

[supple orbit]

not at this point and time you want me to listen to you you shouldnt have dismissed everyhting i was saying just to be seen as rightwhen i was being logical and reasonable

[novel surge]

You might be mixing me up with one of the others that were initially part of the discussion. I was even using pieces of your wow examples, since I used to play that as well and was heavily involved in crafting there.

But the entire discussion seemed to be that you didn't like people using the term item level because it was not a visible stat within the game

Which it is not, that is correct

[supple orbit]

and thats all that needed to be said

[sweet elk]

it is however a labelled data field in the game files

[novel surge]

The problem is, we can't just stop it flat there, because there is still nuance to it

The reason that item level is being used as a term for discussing tiers of items is because that is what the developers use for them

[supple orbit]

not really just cause something is datamined doesnt mean it sthe correct term it can very well just be a placeholder s othe devs working on the code know where to look

[sweet elk]

im still confused wether this very petty arguement is around the usage of a name or acknowlegement that a grouping exists

[novel surge]

Seems to be the usage of the name if I am understanding correctly

[novel surge]

The problem is, that is all we have to go by.

Even if it is a placeholder, it is still an official usage

Anything else would be made up and then fall under your definition of people acting like sheep

[quick hearth]

would you prefer we call them "easy, normal and difficult" crafts? because at each ilvl label the items require an additional material to craft even in initiate and adept grades

[novel surge]

The usage can absolutely evolve over time though

[supple orbit]

its also and alpha should there be ilvl later fine but its currently not a real thing right now its self imposed name / term that players are using cause they havent found a realistic term that fits it accurately thats all i was saying is lets call it something else actually in gamemaybe visable cause youre gonna get people come in telling them they need such and such and they cant physically find said number CAUSEITS NOT THERE and self imposed term simple

[novel surge]

The only argument there is just that it isn't self-imposed. We are just using what we have from the devs at this time. You are correct that there isn't another term for it, which is why we use their item level brackets that they use

[supple orbit]

its self imposed all cause a cicrlced number in a corner of a tooltip like seriously

[novel surge]

Nobody is saying "you need ilvl 26 to join this group" but saying a good upgrade would be "an ilvl 26 weapon" is a bit different

And it is just referring to the tiering since we don't have any other official tiering

I don't disagree that it could be named something a bit clearer. We just don't have something clearer to use currently.

Especially because in-game, the tiering is very unclear without looking at every single item individually

Hopefully on the next cycle they make things significantly clearer because it is currently a mess. Especially when you are trying to find items in profession tabs. Using tailoring as an example, the profession tab shows arcane aegis, then soulseeker, then dewthread while the tiering is reversed

Arcane aegis can be made at any apprentice bench, dewthread requires a textile mill journeyman table, and soulseeker requires a master tailors storefront expansion to craft

But yes, raw ilvl from a wow perspective would absolutely not apply here. In this case, typically the dewthread chest would be higher ilvl than the soulseeker. We just need proper official tiering/sorting of item brackets within the level brackets

That is pretty much the extent of the explanation/reasoning though

[broken heron]

Holy fucking dent still going. Item level is tied to how many base stats an item receives. It is a thing in this game and many other games

[novel surge]

Correct

[lusty kindle]

what we learned today is if you call it ilvl you are a sheep

[novel surge]

:^)

[lusty kindle]

but sheeps are cute so

[sweet elk]

if you call things labelled by the developer of the game by the name they gave it, you are a sheep*

[novel surge]

ur cute pal

[lusty kindle]

because you follow them

[sweet elk]

we should stop calling it Ashes of Creation for fear of being a sheep

[lusty kindle]

and if you call it something else its self imposed

so no matter how you call it you are wrong

[sweet elk]

oh yes my mistake

[lusty kindle]

so in every case we loose

so i have to call it an "3,266 Phys Power Greatsword" just in case nobody gets confused

[heady sandal]

Anybody knows what Torn Challenge petition piece does?

[supple orbit]

well considering how the 2 items they posted some stats benifits others and come as a use if needed just cause those stats not used on one character but used on the other using this logic behind just the power defines the ilvl it makes no sense so that IS selfimposed, even the upperleft number would be misleading but im sorry if thats being too reasonable and or logical. i forget broken logic excells in a place like this especially to a person like you

cause by the logic your implying just cause the stats are higher but sub stat may not be needed you should go for the uneeded stat just cause its a so called "ilvl" increase, that makes 0 sense thats jsut one reason why these stats cant be used simply cause rarity and quality stats from crafting profs and its gear/tools change this stuff, im sorry but its a mess and doesnt make sense till it does its not legit ilvl call it what you want sure but just like from your perspective not listening to me, in my eyes youre jsut the same and this will be a never ending circle so shut up at this point we can both be wrong and can both be right ultimately the fluctuation of these stats doesnt work for normal item level and the devs are just slow to make a meaningful stable term that can actually be tracked in some way

[lusty kindle]

now i should shut up it gets better and better

[novel surge]

Somehow managed to miss my point. Was showing that they are at different tiers, because of their item level bracketing. The lower ilvl item has to be epic in order to compare to the rare quality of the higher ilvl

[broken heron]

You can overcome item level by increasing rarity/quality on a craft. Is that the point you’re trying to make? I can’t make sense of the wall of words

[novel surge]

The whole purpose of the ilvl tiering is that they have higher stat budgets

And scale harder

Also some of these crafts are insane lol

Obviously different if there is a ton of farming going on but otherwise it is easily 200g+ in mats

[high bison]

idk what to do with the items crafted... alot of dupers/rmt people. Imposible to sell items. We need a wipe and fix that problems

[woeful bronze]

I know it's not the point you were getting at and I'm not joining that discussion but the befallen forge relic requirement on piece in screenshot, do you know if that means the crafting bench in the forge required or if there's an actual relic a town needs to acquire?

[novel surge]

Oh yeah that pic was entirely unrelated to the previous awful discussion. Yeah as far as I know, you have to craft it in the forge

That is what ive heard from others

[main raft]

This aint bad, look at some of the dried board counts for bows or the ingots for 2handers

[novel surge]

That's true but you can get 200 dried board mats in like an hour or two

[woeful bronze]

Yeah that's all I was asking as haven't tested myself be so busy with other things but 'befallen forge relic' was only crafting restriction I wasn't familiar with

[novel surge]

Oh yeah just reread it. Wonder if that is a drop from one of the raid bosses

And if it is even implemented

[woeful bronze]

Well it requires 'pelomnehs nursing cloth' to craft and usually mob that drops the craft component has low chance to drop the item but yeah never really know if befallen forge relic just means the benches in the dungeon like how regions have their own craft there recipes or if actual relic seeing as that is a thing for towns, though idk if I like the idea that many professions need a relic I believe there will only be 1 of

[ornate vault]

chat does anyone know if its possible to bump the quality enough to make legendary slate armor mold with clay being bugged?

[novel surge]

Yeah at the very least I know that mob drops the cloth and the recipe since I have both

[bright fossil]

Hey all, do the JM tailoring bags for mining quality not exist in the game? I see them in the glossary but the textile mill vendor only has the speed/spoils recipes. Is there a building upgrade requirement?

[floral elk]

If you were focusing on Alchemy and Cooking, what are the most optimal 2 other JM and 1 apprentice setups? I’m thinking fishing, farming, herbalism but can’t decide on which 2 to JM

[sweet elk]

It means you have to craft it in forge or at a node that has the befallen forge relic and the appropriate bench

[echo bolt]

there no other way to obtain roughrime than gathering?

is that an oversight?

[woeful bronze]

Roughrime is gained from farming for it like any other material, I'm not sure what oversight your meaning

[echo bolt]

Every other gem can be obtained by crushing rocks, there is a chance to get rubies, roughrime used to be obtainable in the same way. That is no longer the case. It wasn't just from gathering as you assume to be the case here.

[woeful bronze]

I don't believe rough rime to have an extra proc recipe like the ones your referencing, let me check one thing to confirm that

[echo bolt]

Used to be a chance like rubies, copper and zinc but it got removed from all the rocks

[woeful bronze]

sorry wanted to check stone bench just in case but its not there either so you are correct physically mining it is only way to get it

[echo bolt]

roughrime is the only gem that cannot be obtained by crafting rocks into fragments, so it makes it hella more rare/valuable for higher rarities imo.

[woeful bronze]

yeah i think its place should be in the stone fragment extra proc recipes as thats best gem extra proc spot but cos theres no unique anvil rock thats why its not there

[novel surge]

I am not sure I wanna gamble a legendary craft with 0.8% into legendary according to aocarmory lol

[fickle compass]

im a crafter LOL

[novel surge]

Nice, same

[sacred chasm]

How can I tell looking at the map if a town has a master leatherworking outlet, and why would I need something that high for an apprentice level craft ?

[unique crane]

hi

[final halo]

You pop an elixir before craft, do you pop a scroll after/before? (XP ones)

[vague canopy]

Before

[atomic mural]

Before craft, process, gather and xp before you turn in the missions (complete commissions is the name of the button in your J page)

[final halo]

Well shit, at least I got 1 right lol
Ty

[novel surge]

No reason aside from personal "progress"

[thick acorn]

the eternal hunt for recipe drops and getting nothing is realy annoying 😄

[atomic mural]

Probably some random mob that you haven't even thought twice about killing - I just got a Howling Wolf recipe and Emblem of a bunch of wolves that I've been killing all day.

[thick acorn]

ive been farming them there just so rare one drop from lvl 20+ spiders/plants/vampire bats in tropics seen one recipe but the lvl 23 cloth version not the 26 cloth im after in tropics
the other is Desert mobs that only spawn in 1 spot in the communion since the other 2 area are disable due to dijina not being a village node
the drop rates are so unbeleivable low that u just end up killing thousand of the obs and seeing nothing and since there both so obscure of mobs u dont even see them on market at any reasonable rate ive seen a whole 2 recipes on the market lol

which is an issue since u have 2 whole options to make physicasl cloth gear both have obscure mobs spawns to farm with shit drop rates

[foggy void]

armorsmith lvl 27 how to get radiant receipes guys?

[novel surge]

market or drops

[abstract terrace]

i have all artisan on novice, if i want to specialise in armor smithing, what all artisan do i need to focus on to be more independed as possible? im thinking, jm armor smithing, jm mining, jm metalworking, jm stonemasonry, and 1 apprentice? can someone guide me on this, im new to crafting

[novel surge]

I would recommend taking a look through some of the JM recipes for armorsmithing and see what comes up the most in terms of mats honestly

And you can always bounce professions a little bit too

You can drop apprentice to novice and it stays at 10. So drop one, do a bunch of processing with another at apprentice, then drop that one

[abstract terrace]

also a noob question, if im a citizen of miraleth, can i buy extra storage in different nodes?

[atomic mural]

I believe so more expensive and cant be expanded like your citizen storage

[final tendon]

Question: I've bought & consumed a gatherer green salad before going to gather, but I see no buff icon/effect and in my gathering stats didn't change

I guess it's a bug?

[floral elk]

When you use food buffs, you need to be standing still and not move - your character will sit down and “eat” the food - takes a few seconds and there will be a progress bar to show you using it

I’ve wasted too many food buffs by using them and forgetting to wait for it to actually use

[final tendon]

oh boy xd thanks for the info /cry

[torn axle]

Journeyman gatherers with gear etc, do they get items that boosts the chance to get rarer materials ?

[floral elk]

If you were focusing on Alchemy and Cooking, what are the most optimal 2 other JM and 1 apprentice setups? I’m thinking fishing, farming, herbalism but can’t decide on which 2 to JM

[thick acorn]

farming specific mob for recipes so far 80g from loot 0 recipes -.- sigh

[woeful bronze]

Yeah the universal drop table thing was a horrible change I miss when certain areas had certain recipe/emblem drops, no OP cos still had farm them up but could atleast target farm

[thick acorn]

there not universal drops btw cloth recipes drop from X mobs and so on for example radiant cloth desert recipes currently only drop from a single POI in the game due to djinna never made it to village so the other 2 spawns are not active, also 2 star mobs so not to easy to solo farm either
cloth in tropics drops from like 4 mob and there so spread out there alot of running

they should just drop biome specific recipe fragment s u can turn x amount of them in to an npc to get the recipe u want -.- would make all recipes useful tyhen :p

[woeful bronze]

Things are more widespread is what I mean by being so universal, I miss the old way where say forsaken emblems recipes where highwayman hills and no other sets it emblems and ursine had a set and ros etc etc made targeted farming much better rather then this run around like a headless chicken and 90% wasted time system

[noble widget]

are new drop tables listed anywhere? Assuming ashes of codex is currently out the window, due to so many wipes and reworks?

[thick acorn]

codex seems accurate it just biome specific now

[noble widget]

cool, nice one

[hidden gale]

can any1 explain em where i get that Residuum from? the shifts are from salvaging but the Residuum i have no idea 🙂

[woeful bronze]

Most residuum comes from deconstruction as well armour from armour, weapons from weapons etc etc I've never seen the artisan named residum

[hidden gale]

mh so im just unlucky because i deconstructed a few things?

[woeful bronze]

Does the tempering kit anywhere say about what it's used on? Like in took tips anywhere

Cos I only know if armour, weapons jewellery named kits which are all pretty self explanatory I can even imagine what artisan would be

[hidden gale]

upgrading that mighty crafter belt 😛

[woeful bronze]

Wait could artisan be artisan clothing like the shirt, skivies, and toolbelts?

[hidden gale]

yeah

[woeful bronze]

Ahh then yeah residuum would be from deconning artisan pieces

[hidden gale]

ah ok,- so i craft a few shirts , and deconstruct it?

[woeful bronze]

Yeah I think that should work, not messed with artisan ones but given how the others work deconning shirts should do it

[hidden gale]

aweseome- every day new stuff to learn. Thanks for clarification!

[woeful bronze]

Hey learning experience for me to I haven't looked deeply at tempering yet but helped me learn to teach more in future

[hidden gale]

well i did some tests with enchanting as u can see here. i wondered whats wrong until someone told me to temper the belt to the next grade.

still, using a green and purp scroll with same effect looks like unintented

[woeful bronze]

I don't believe I've ever seen rarity if scroll effect enchanting out come but yeah enchanting is stat increase while tempering is meant for the grade increase

So save higher mats and just use white scrolls will make them little cheaper to make

[slim nova]

Guys which tailoring bags worth crafting from the basic JM ones?

[main raft]

Check your market?

Can I mix higher rarity fragments with lower qual ore when making ingots? Like 1 Heroic Frag + 2 Uncommon ore to get rare ingots? You can

[novel surge]

Almost none it feels like lol

I am considering doing the herb one at high rarity to test out big spoils

[lusty siren]

If I have epic blue Sapphires what level of everything else do I need to make a heroic tidewrought ring. Trying to get mats together for a craft. The ashes codex calculator always feels like it's wrong

[latent meadow]

hi guys, where is better to farm yourneyman lumberjack? which location/tree

[novel surge]

Try using this one https://aocarmory.com/crafting-calculator

[torn axle]

Do i use [Commission's Scroll of Processing Experience] before i start the processing order, or do i use it when the order is done and i pick it up ?

[novel surge]

Processing before, adventure after

[torn axle]

a crafter ingame told me :
if you craft items -> use comission scroll of crafting experience before you start crafting
if you process items -> use comission scroll of processing experience just before you pick up items

[abstract terrace]

How independend can i be if i wanna main armor smithin and my wife help me with her own account? So 2 ppl playing for 1 goal, can someone help break down what we need on 1 char and the other? Im confused hahaha

[novel surge]

That is inaccurate

Crafting and processing are both before you start

Adventuring, for processing, is when you go to pick it up

But I can test rq too

[torn axle]

im lvl 25, i dont care about adventuring

[novel surge]

I didn't say you do, just how all 3 are understood to work

Just started a single thread, popped scroll, then started another. Will show exp when grabbing

[torn axle]

i think that process needs some testing. it doesnt make any sense if process needs to be done before you start it. you get the XP when you pick up the items

[torn axle]

awesome, thanks a bunch! ❤️

[novel surge]

If anything, it allows you to double dip

Thread
Scroll
Thread
Wait
Claim both

[torn axle]

thanks alot.. and shame on me. Just did 180 threads and didnt take scroll before i started. RIP

[broken heron]

Heroic + eddledoms are easy to sell raw and processed

Likewise with weeping willows

[eager quest]

Do sandstone or volcanic rock have higher yields of zinc/copper? or is it relatively the same as each other and/or basalt/granite?

[tight pelican]

Is there a location to promote mining and hunter in the Anvils area?

[pulsar ember]

In Bonfire or the other one think it's Hammers Rest

[old urchin]

I have nothing to go on, other than a lot of game time. I'd say it's about the same.

[old urchin]

How do you temper though, It literally won't let me even if i have the mats and the right item with right temper.

[woeful bronze]

I've not played with it much this phase yet been so busy testing other things but once you activate the kit from inventory it should give you drop down to select item wanting to temper then it will display needed mats and coin and then you click to make it happen.. what part of this process is it blocking you maybe I can help trouble shoot

[latent meadow]

where location on theese tree up

[thick acorn]

wish i covuld get these recipes ive been farmiung for the last 2 weeks -.-

log in check for recipes log out 😄 fun game loop 😄 cant seem to farm them due to non exsistant drop rate

[austere whale]

can you use processing potion to get a higher rarity timber wile processing? Example, can i turn rare ash wood into heroic timber?

[merry mason]

Kind of. You need the quality stat to be high, then it’s a %chance for an upgrade. Not sure what the math is

[torn axle]

Can you stack bags to get more stats?

LIke 3x

[sleek merlin]

how much should a heroic slagbreaker pick axe cost?

[radiant ingot]

You need to know what to make, otherwise yea you can potentially be in perma debt with some of these artisan skills

[hazy bloom]

Lets talk tanning/leatherworking. I really hope my calcs are wrong so i want to hear from someone who is allready journeyman. How do you even level this thing ? It seems it needs insurmountable amounts of carcasses and time.

I see that as a long term project 🙂 right now im calcing and estimating things and it looks quite bleak

the thing is i wanted to buy my rosethorn gear, there is none, im looking for a long term project anyways so ill go for it. Like i said right now im estimating a lot of stuff because i dont know. In terms of tanning it seems the first 10 levels are more of a problem because most spots for ravens and grems are overfarmed, bears are very inconsistent except for the static spawns which spawn rougly every 10 min or so. Which would take me 100s of hour hunting bears alone ^^ Do you perhaps know a goot hunting spot till i have tanning 10 ?

[main raft]

Hate to say it, there's a reason grems/ravens are overframed. That is the way to do it.

[hazy bloom]

Yeah i figured. Like i said. Right now i only see a problem till lvl 10, fater that it seems quite "easy" in terms of aquiring carcasses

[sweet elk]

I would say that LW isn’t the problem and is relatively easy to level. Tanning on the other hand is awful

Though until they re-enable node buffs levelling any of it is substantially more difficult

[stiff kite]

The whole lw/tanning/hunting loop needs a lot of improvements, they are so far away from the rest. Hunting should be a focus area for them to fix!

[woeful bronze]

LW and tanning i feel are okay its the hunting thats wrong and needs fixing, bring it on par to other gathering skills and then tanning and LW are fine

[sweet elk]

True I guess LW levelling is hidden behind starting area grem farming which is the only reason it’s fine.

And I can’t imagine that’s even intended behaviour

[hazy bloom]

Really ? I roughly calculated how many cracasses i need, how long it takes and how costly it is. In short, it takes hours with no end and costs a fortune. Maybe my numbers are wrong, did you allready lvl to journeyman ? how long did it take

[woeful bronze]

but how does that compare if hunting is as avaliable as mining is to metalworking?

[hazy bloom]

i will get more accurate numbers and try again. Im only starting that journey so i do not really know 🙂

[novel surge]

I feel like you're slightly misunderstanding the question based on your response

Theyre saying that LW/tanning wouldn't feel so horribly long/expensive if carcasses were even close to as plentiful as ore/rocks are

[hazy bloom]

It would for sure feel better if the base material was more available. But even if that was the case it still is quite insane. I mean in essence they are right, hunting is the most limiting factor. But that is because you normally level your proffessions via novice recipes. They are the most bang for your buck. I calculated lvl 10-20 tanning via rams, iirc one craft is 5,5 silver or so. It gets very expensive very fast, we are talking 100+ gold just for leveling. Like i said the other proffessions mitigate that with novice recipes but in this case it takes way to long to aquire the carcasses. And again my numbers could be way off, will check them tonight

[sage raft]

Sooo ive been sports fishing at JM level with a JM pole for around 10 hours and ive not gotten a single medium fish or anything above a fry.

I have used every lure crank+ over 10 times.

Is this a bug or am I just pulling the short straw?

[fluid wren]

Hey guys, does anyone have tips to farm tendonite ? I don't really know where to go or which type or rocks i should focus on.
Thank you o/

[hazy bloom]

All over the anvils

And you can get it from sanding materials i think but cant check right now

[crude thorn]

Yeah more or less or you play a very small amount but you’re literally funded by a huge guild 🤣 and get on when you do mass crafts.

[hazy bloom]

Tbh that seems to be the only feasible way right now 🙂

[crude thorn]

I’m a jeweler but I honestly get more money by just making sets for my guildies, way to many people filling the markets. Rn but today I get that shiny legendary petalshard necklace. If all goes well.

Not waiting for buffs to be turned on. For like 10-20 more quality lol

[novel surge]

Yeah one of the biggest problems with crafting right now is that people are just immediately crashing the market

Lyneth got the master tailor upgrade like 2 days ago. People were posting shirts pretty much at cost on the market within a couple hours. Makes zero sense

[hazy bloom]

yeah im a jm scribe and alchemist. People are selling enchanting scrolls for 1g50, we have a 20% taxrate, the craft itself costs around 1g, it takes 40 rough rubys, 60 snow and 60 daf. You have to process all mats 2 times. Yeah its common mats but still. People are getting around 20 silver profit for all that work. People are stupid

and if they dont farm those common mats themselves they would make a minus

stupid

[crude thorn]

Yeah a guy on shol wanted to buy epic rubys I was like I’ll sell them to you for 1g they were cut. Everyone can cut them I get but on market rough epic rubies are 50-60 silver each. Guy responds back can you sell me them for 60 silver?

Like my man. Why would I sell you already processed epic rubys for the same price of non processed ones.

[fading sequoia]

Maybe you mean to introduce the actual system. Why would you want to fix a placeholder?

[royal crescent]

I make the bulk of my money selling boards. Always have. Gather my own mats, sell them for the average market cost of 2 wood at that rarity. At some point every crafter will pay more for the processing time along with the mats. "Why spend all that effort gathering/buying and processing 40 boards when this random miller will sell me 40 epic boards for 32g?"

I chopped trees while watching anime, then left them to process while gaming with my guild, and profited over 30g. Easy.

[blazing ruin]

Smart

[austere whale]

ty for response, i will play around wit hthis

[stiff kite]

Ofc, i know it’s a placeholder and we need the proper system very soon,

[sacred chasm]

Has knotbane oil been available at all in Alpha 2 Phase 3 ? I see posts about it being locked out from last September and October.

[hardy marsh]

anyone know why sometimes your character will throw the fishing rod out a bunch of times and get nothing before they get a fish

but sometimes I just get fish nonstop

same spot

[sacred chasm]

RNG

[hardy marsh]

I moved down the river a bit just to be sure it wasn't my spot lol

[slim nova]

question in previous alphas.. how much leg junskosh and lithium settled for?

[maiden pawn]

It’s on the lumber milling vendor but the station needs to be upgraded enough for it to be sold.

[dreamy spear]

has anybody tried this combination with quality? how much quality would I need to hit heroic

[novel surge]

Try using this https://aocarmory.com/crafting-calculator

[sacred chasm]

Thank you. I'm being told they are upgraded at two locations on Vyra, the item is visible but cant be put in the cart. Where would I look to make sure the station is upgraded ?

[maiden pawn]

I’m not familiar with what to look for on the N screen of the town and buildings tab where the station is located. But if it’s grayed out at one vendor check the next.

[novel surge]

Which expansion does it say it needs?

[sacred chasm]

This is what I'm seeing.

[novel surge]

Ah yeah that is likely from this

[dreamy spear]

is this a bug or it doesn't give any stats for tanning?

[sacred chasm]

So its a master level item needed for journeyman wood. The price kinda makes it make sense. Odd thing is, there are baskets for sale in Joeva on Vyra that require that oil. Is it possible to downgrade a building ?

Actually ...

[novel surge]

Thatll do it haha

[sacred chasm]

So it seems its just bugged at the moment.

[torn axle]

Hey there.
You know alot, so im gonna ask you.

Do you know if there is a difference in tanning - if the different animals give different XP when tanning ?

[torpid mist]

carpenters-
Since Lj, lm, carp, and herb take out 4 of the 5 journeyman slots, do you guys think its worth it to leave weaving at apprentice? or should i just use fishing as my 5th apprentice for some sport fishing money and find a weaver 🤔

[radiant ingot]

Could be just me, but from your thought process: having the extra income from the sport fishing to afford “hiring” weavers when needed makes sense to me lol. I’d weigh it on whether or not you plan to sport fish enough to make it work out that way. If you’d only get enough income to pay the weaver, and none to pocket, then maybe just be the weaver instead.

[torpid mist]

yeah thats why the decision has been so tough, but i already have to choose between JM weaver and herb anyway is the factor that really pushes me toward the fishing

[true plover]

Scribe - Can anyone help me find the apprentice level adventuring experience recipe? I didn't see it on the apprentice vendor unless I missed it.

[novel surge]

It is a drop

[true plover]

Yeah I was afraid of that, been look on the auction house for days and haven't seen it

Thanks for the confirmation!

[novel surge]

It has been a while since I tested but I believe they were the same or very similar

[spiral cargo]

Hey is Nestone in the game?

[novel surge]

First run messing around with the new bag, many flowers

[worldly zealot]

Thats so much space lol

[novel surge]

It is lol I love it

[worldly zealot]

WOW, thats a lot of spoils. Notice any difference? Pop an elixir also?

[novel surge]

I get quite a few 4-5x herb harvests honestly. No elixir atm since I have been around new aela and no luck on them on the market nearby lol

Right now sitting at 500ish spoils and quality. I wanna do 3x lego JM but that would be all my lego mats and dont wanna miss the chance to sell a hunter bag if the alt recipe comes up lol

[radiant ingot]

Beautiful

[worldly zealot]

It amazes me how ppl can have so many legendary mats 🥹

[novel surge]

Occasionally snagging cheap ones over time haha

My bluebell and flax I mostly grabbed for 1g ea over the past couple weeks

Spindle I had to pay 6g ea

[worldly zealot]

dang flax at 1g is pretty good deal

[novel surge]

It was more like snowdrop/daffodil at 50s-1g then legendary woodchips for the same

[worldly zealot]

Ahh nice

[novel surge]

If I hadnt totally forgotten about farming after day 2, I would have had it way cheaper

[worldly zealot]

Yeah highest spindle ive farmes so far is only rare lol

[novel surge]

Like my 6th spindle plant was epic lmao

So I kinda have those threads just hanging out

[worldly zealot]

Lucky

My first legendary (of 3 total) was bluebell, that felt pretty good

[novel surge]

Ohh nice I have yet to get a lego

[worldly zealot]

Ive gotten bluebell, then moonbell, and best of all legendary banana 🤣

[ebon hamlet]

Where can I weave spindlevine? Is it zone specific?

[worldly zealot]

Has to be at Master weaver

If im not mistaken

[novel surge]

Nope just have to get the mats from master weaver

[worldly zealot]

Ahh, thats what it was.

[floral elk]

thanks for sharing! how accurate/reliable is this? so many calculator going around at the moment and a few of them have been way off the mark 😄

[novel surge]

That seems to be the most accurate one I have seen/heard so far

I was also right on the threshold for a blue shirt earlier and it worked

[worldly zealot]

😲

[obtuse sigil]

i have 43 level herbalism only got 2 procs of leg 😢 one is snowdrop one is daffodil

[novel surge]

I am at 42 right now and havent had any lol it is sad

[merry jay]

Im trying to craft a wand but need tin fragments... Where the hell can i find some slate?

[worldly zealot]

To be fair, ive been 50 herbalism for over a week now and only got 3 total so yeah.. But it feels worse the higher i got lol

[novel surge]

Another run, this time with salad

[worldly zealot]

Much better tbh

[abstract terrace]

did they change aven-brior crate run? im 100% certain, that with epic cert and green mats, it turns it into a blue crate. but today, its not doing that anymore... they changed it without saying anything or im tripping? cause epic with white mats turn it into a green crate, using green mats and epic cert turns it into a blue crate which is worth 60s that i used to run. it doesnt turn it into blue crate anymore. im tripping?

[spring kayak]

What zone / area do the Briarhold recipes drop from? Does anyone know?

[radiant ingot]

i think it was uncommon mats and legendary cert for rare crate?

[abstract terrace]

no im 100% if you use uncommon mats it turns it into blue crate, cause when i gather i always have anough for 1 blue and 2 green using epic cert

thats why sometimes i have 3 green, and gathering back and forth one of the run i have enough for all uncommon and it turns it into blue crate. im 100% cause i even know the value which is 60s, i never ever bought leg cert

[radiant ingot]

ah. then i'm unsure, sorry. was going off of others
#questions message
#alpha-two-general message

[silent plover]

What is better when it comes to gathering tools, bags, etc. spoils, speed or quality? I’ve heard from people quality doesn’t really work

[radiant ingot]

spoils and quality. speed is...negligible. big disappointment to the ones who were spending the gold to try it out, from what i've seen so far

[final schooner]

The gathering speed Is not activated so sad i want it to activate so i dont need to spend 4hours to fill up a full jm legend bag

[peak fractal]

Look at the item in ashes codex and it will show the other stats. Just doesn’t show them all in game currently.

[peak fractal]

Ashes codex calculator is way off right now. Dont use it till it’s updated.

[jovial turret]

Any tips for farming freaking Furnace Moss?!

[sweet pivot]

Could someone show us what the inside of Slagbreaker Mining bag looks like?

[frank hedge]

hello, i make some test during last week with 0 and 400 speed and i see the diff, when i mining i use 9 hits on a adulte basalt and when i use the 400 speed i only need 8 hits on the same rock

[rose geode]

How often are you hitting green+ with the 500ish quality stat on gathering plants?

[fast swan]

why i cant buy journeyman recipes im lvl 20 armorer

[frank hedge]

The city need to build the building for that

[fast swan]

so the city has master armorsmithing station 1 point in building skill tree and people alredy selling these belts but for me the recipe is grey

[frank hedge]

Stupid question but have you lvl your profession into a jm?

[fast swan]

yeah i have that

[frank hedge]

And the city where you try to by it, its the only city on your serveur who has master amorsmithing.?

[fast swan]

yeah

[frank hedge]

Tbh im sry i cant help you 😭

[fast swan]

thank you

[novel surge]

Based on the picture a little above what you responded to and shortly after, I think greens are roughly 1/4 of my loot

[hazy bloom]

No, ran packs last week, common + epic cert = uncommon. uncommon + epic cert is still uncommon. At least it was that for me. But you can tip the rarity if you mix some blue or heroic in it

[nocturne pendant]

Should I get Glintic Residuum - Weapon always when deconstructing? Just decon'd a few spellbooks and didn't get any residuums.

[unreal parcel]

Its a chance, all normal

[nocturne pendant]

ahh, cheers

[latent hull]

What u guys do common Sandstone and Ruby, just sell it to Vendor?

[final schooner]

I got 1k speed vs a lvl 8 we same speed in cutting wood

🤣

Rather want the speed to be faster chopping animation than lessen the chop times

So i can feel like barry alan when chopping wood

[novel surge]

Lol yeah would be funny to make the swing animation faster

[south stirrup]

Hey all, i know those question are probably asked a lot here, but do the mining quality, speed and spoils do anything? if they do how much do i need of those stats? And what are the benefits of going higher than journeyman for example in weaponsmithing

[blazing ruin]

I would like to stop chopping wood in full armor

Make us switch to shirts even if just visibly

[dry pulsar]

Anybody in here from Vyra?

Trying to see if farms exist in settlements yet.

[sinful bane]

There's a farm in Mira and one up in Halcyon I believe.

On Vyra

[dry pulsar]

Nice. I need to link up with a farmer or something.

Jus someone who is lvling up their farming profession.

[main coral]

Anyone got a good moonbell spot?

[south stirrup]

whats the best mining equipment? like what are the best bag you should aim for

[royal scaffold]

Yoooo anyone know a spot for leveling hunting to apprentice?

[ebon coyote]

Can any hardcore crafters clarify if this would result in heroic craft?

at 37% into the quality

[radiant ingot]

My understanding is you just go to your fav bluebell spot during the games night cycle since they only spawn at night

[lone umbra]

in what town you have to be to craft graveplate on lotharia?

[radiant ingot]

Look at your map and you can see the buildings in each town. You’d be looking for the town that can do armor smithing

[dry pulsar]

I don't believe in gatekeeping. Can anybody confirm this works? Bandit Shanty Town?

[lone umbra]

we got several towns with that but says req jungle, none of those in jungle and ppl are still crafting and selling them

[radiant ingot]

Oh jungle is Jundark. South of new Aela

Thought you meant town rather than biome mb

I’ve seen this graveplate question before. Mobs in the respective areas can drop gear

[weary lance]

If im just focused on lumberjacking, What is the difference between gathering quality and lumberjacking quality? Does gathering quality divide between all gathering so 5 =1 lumberjacking?

[novel surge]

Nah it should be just generic quality applied to each thing undivided

[weary lance]

Also is there any pettable otters in anvils or are they all riverlands?

[novel surge]

North of bandit shanty i believe there should be

Along that beach area

[nocturne pendant]

Is there any use for common apprentice/jm materials? F.ex. Slate and Limestone feel like vendortrash

[atomic mural]

Buy Orders but they are disabled

[main raft]

Where's cacao spawn and wtf does it look like?

[nocturne pendant]

jundark, kinda short - brighter tree

[main raft]

All jundark? its a rare spawn like braid, etc right?

[nocturne pendant]

yep

[main raft]

thanks

[woeful drift]

Not sure if this is the right channel but I was gonna lvl up animal husbandry so I have like 50 rams but it doesn’t show them as trainable in riverlands or anvils. Is that a bug? Or is there something special I need to do with them

[atomic mural]

Bug / omitted / hold if you have space and think the devs will patch it / sell otherwise

[frank hedge]

https://youtu.be/opnjHTDFqwI

here is the prouve than speed work

dunno if its the servor issus or not but you can see the speed work

[idle forge]

Does rarity effect enchanting scrolls?

[peak fractal]

Yes it works - if you go you will see that it’s being farmed constantly.

[worldly zealot]

Where do you get corrupted chili flakes recipe?

[novel surge]

praise be spoils

[torn fiber]

Are you at the right station

[near falcon]

Has anyone got a recipe drop for the Ars Incantis book from carph this phase? Or is it not in the game anymore

[loud cloak]

If there is more than one smithy in the city, you might be at the wrong one

[novel surge]

I got one a week or two ago

[austere whale]

how does elixir of crafting quality work? and is it better than lets say elixir of carpentry at the same rarity?

[thick acorn]

no you would need blue zinc there.
Your aim for heroic = 4-4.99 adverage
Lego fragment = 6
White armor fragment = 1
Blue hide = 3
(6+1+3) =10 then divide 3 imputes = 3.33 so you get a blue at 33% + what ever quality bonus does it definetly not pushing it up the remaining .66
you will need to hit a +12 on that item to garantee heroic

Common = 1
uncommon = 2
rare = 3
heroic = 4
purple = 5
legendary = 6

[peak fractal]

I have not tested it yet and either the name is wrong or the stat description is wrong because the only stat it has is crafting cost.

[digital hinge]

Is it intentional for the JM arcane engineering shirt to have no quality bonus?

[peak fractal]

I think it’s most likely they are still adjusting stats and things of that sort. Obviously still a long way to go in that front.

It is the same for other professions, such as JM tanning.

Also the higher rarity gear often adds stats that the common doesn’t have. Check it out in the codex.

[loud cloak]

Some artisan clothing doesn't show the correct stats until it has been crafted someone said

Can't verify