alpha-two-artisan-chat

[novel surge]

Wow that is kinda crazy lol. I cleared out about 200 herb nodes last night with all the buffs I can atm and didnt see a single epic

This is what my stats were

This was roughly an hour. Enough to bring my twilight sickle to 0 durability

[cunning wind]

Is there a database somewhere to see the xp from crafting stuff?

[sacred pelican]

anyone find a good jundark essence farming spot?

[worldly zealot]

Anyone know where the good journeyman bag recipes are found/dropped/stolen?

[slim nova]

if joeva getting JM tailoring tmr, does it come with JM weaving or it require seperate upgrade?

[drifting gust]

so is speed working yet, or is it a dead stat?

[vivid wasp]

does anyone know what i have to gather in the desert to get lithium?

[sacred pelican]

Rare t3 proc from limestone

[atomic mural]

Need the numbers in their stats if you want/are able to share

[vivid wasp]

tysfm! i was losing my mind. also i would need not only journeyman skill but also the pickaxe to start getting them right?

[ember dust]

Myth beach crabs

[solar loom]

Braidwood wood spawn in specific areas like Willow Wood along water?

[fickle compass]

.

[pallid charm]

did u get it?

[ionic charm]

no

[ionic charm]

idk where it even is

[pallid charm]

i got pissed for this too

there's already a master tailor shit and still no 2nd bag

[ionic charm]

there is not a master tailor shirt

[pallid charm]

didnt say shirt

[ionic charm]

(read that wrong ignore me lol)

[fluid stream]

they really need to change the fact tailor/carpentry can both make bags ... doesnt feel great when you have 2 prof trying to out sell one another ...

[sharp ivy]

do you have to have artisan shirts/belt/skivs and elixir/scrolls on before starting an artisan craft/process or after to take advantage of those stat boosts?

[fluid stream]

tailor bags = for people ... carpentry bags = for mules ... that way they can add resource harvesting mules that follow people on foot that you can put those bags on

[mint barn]

You need to have them on before you start the craft/process I believe. I know that's true for processing so I assume its the same for most/all of it

[mint barn]

leatherworking can make bags too 🙃 but I believe they did it because all the different bags have different stats. Some are better than others, some are easier for people to make depending on their profession

Is this legit? Can't tell with a fuzzy screenshot. Just wondering because I heard gathering quality is bugged

[barren fulcrum]

I'm sure this has been asked many times already, however. Do I use a scroll of processing before i 'Start Job' or when i 'Claim'?

[south quiver]

make sure to use it before you start the job :3

[barren fulcrum]

Thanks

[edgy zephyr]

Are there any good Hunting Spots for Wolfs in the North ?

[wanton lion]

anyone have any info on decon? I need info on emblems how many you get if any you get etc

[hot token]

Welp. I feel like quitting because of the unreliable quality UI 🙁

Just wasted all my investment making green bolts instead of blue because the quality on gear isnt used for UI calculation and forgot to put the belt on

RIP 3 days and 16 suppliers coordonating

Like, might just reroll on another server never to be heard of again

[rocky steppe]

i dont understand but i feel ya seetwo

[timid ledge]

where can I find holloweye?

[storm carbon]

250 quality is quite low considering you can get elixir+food that gives double that. also twilight crescent at epic gives 299 at base. mine for example has 315 cause of high rolled crafted. As i have previously said. People expect with uncommon etc and low stats to proc insane amount .There are thresholds you need to hit for good stuff

[hot token]

@rocky steppeA huge processing craft with 90% blue mats will give a green outcome because of the UI not being able to confirm the expected result

If either you have the quality for it to make the desire result or not, the UI doesnt show you

[worldly zealot]

Thats a rip

[hot token]

You have to press Craft in pure faith that your calculator app is ok

[storm carbon]

it is yes @glacial onyx did it. Iirc his spoils was 820+ and quality about the same? you can get food+elixir that boosts quality/spoils a looot and its a game changer

[glacial onyx]

ah yes it is legit

[storm carbon]

hopefully new mayors unlock the journeyman spoils/quality recipes soon tm. I got pimped weaponsmith quality i am 34 now with epic weaponsmith shirt/pants. Gonna see some juicy high rolled tools if they release the recipes

[hot token]

My city was relying on me to do that, gues it wont happen now

[storm carbon]

well whoever is mayor new or old can do it

[novel surge]

I had 785 quality there. The 250 was from city buff. I was on the fence about if I wanted a high rarity twilight crescent but I think realistically, it will be a while before we have the quality JM recipe available. Elixir is also speed/spoils unless there is a different one I am not aware of

[hot token]

We pooled the entire city's ressource to make this and keep the processing going

[novel surge]

And food nobody has the recipe for yet either sadly

[hot token]

prolly delayed JM shirts on the server by a week

[storm carbon]

what server. cause on lotharia green salad has been on sale for a week

[novel surge]

I am on Lyneth

[storm carbon]

no idea then if NA doesnt know that elixir/food recipes drop from anvils/pirates

[hot token]

I guess you can do the weaver in halcy adi

[novel surge]

Cookhouse has only been up a few days and I checked each market in the riverlands with no luck sadly

[hot token]

vhal's production now gonna slow to a crawl

[novel surge]

Oh is it? What'd I miss

[hot token]

Scroll up slightly

[novel surge]

Oh what were you trying to make?

[hot token]

My emproium basicly employed every flax crafter and gatherer we could find and banked on shirts. wont be able to pay them tomorrow

[timid ledge]

any idea where to find holloweye fish?

[storm carbon]

also reminder. riverlands is baaaaaaad af for density of resources. if you move to areas above and close to jungle or even in the desert places are stacked af. and density plays a huge role. personally i gather close to desert towns. i have unlocked 15g storage and just dump there everything then once finished after 4-5 hours i do a haul move to miraleth

[hot token]

Every single piece of blue linen vbolt is now gonna be green, dont even think i can repay the investment if everything sells, or pay my suppliers

[novel surge]

Ohh were you messing with weaving quality?

[hot token]

Yes

and the UI is fucking horrible

[novel surge]

Sounds pretty solid! I have been trying with things here and there in the tropics/anvils trying to find a decent spot

[hot token]

tried stretching every bit as thin as we could

[novel surge]

Yeah extremely unfortunate. I wanted to stack quality for tailoring but it was weird

[woeful bronze]

ashes codex show its description saying to replaces regular fish when fishing is rivers/lakes taken over by corruption

[novel surge]

Havent looked into quality with processing at all

[timid ledge]

I see you reckon its worth fishing for them?

[hot token]

Im so depressed rn

[storm carbon]

the area above joeva swinsea or w/e the name is close to the border with the other area duunhold was it? it has a HUUUUUUGE field of flowers with almost no mobs. If you get journeyman x3 bags its solid. i did it on my alt with 32 herbalism

[novel surge]

Someone recommended this for crafting but yeah no clue on processing sadly https://aochelpers.com/calculators/crafting-quality

[woeful bronze]

never dealt with them directly so no clue what they go into

[timid ledge]

you can use 8 of them to turn into any fish I think

[hot token]

God i fucking hate myself rn

[novel surge]

The one with just a couple rams on the east coast across the bridge? I was shocked when I saw that initially haha

[hot token]

how to waste 3 full vacation days

[timid ledge]

3 mb

[novel surge]

Was so sad when there was no flax tho

[storm carbon]

you can make flax pretty easily with farming tbh, just need mulch

[drifting gust]

if it's any consolation I still haven't sold that rare shirt I wanted to

[mint barn]

How does this compare to the ashescodex one? I heard the ashescodex one is outdated with the newest phase

[novel surge]

Definitely sucks although at the same time sadly it is what we signed up for with this. The UIs are probably one of the worst parts for me so far

[hot token]

We bought every single piece of flax We could find, every blue board...

[glacial onyx]

what happened again

[hot token]

poof, gone, 1 click

[novel surge]

Yeah I had been considering that instead of diving around the tropics but I dont like woodcutting much lol

[storm carbon]

whats gone

[drifting gust]

the quality ui bugged and his rare craft came out uncommon

[glacial onyx]

oof

[hot token]

It didnt bug, its just bad all the time, it doesnt calculate quality rating, ever

[drifting gust]

yeah, it would be nice if speed did anything at all too

[storm carbon]

if you use all same rare mats it will be rare. no point gambling with lower/higher tbh. and rare is quite cheap. i craft epic tools with always profit +5G cause of my higher rating on stats

[hot token]

100g+ of blue shirts, gone

[novel surge]

They were trying to process, not craft for this one

But yeah it can be questionabale at best

Like I only had 124 or 127 quality and this worked with green bluebell for example

[storm carbon]

process works the same sadly but yea dont gamble

[novel surge]

But I think I had a boon from joeva too that I didnt check on

[drifting gust]

man, were you paying John's price for Flax? because 16s is a bit high imho

[hot token]

its not gambling

theres no gamblign involced if properly calculated

[storm carbon]

16s for flax lul. just make an alt with farming, rare wood on lotharia is like 5s and timber sells back and you get to keep the woodchips

[hot token]

Just using the game's mechanic... thrrough a terrible UI

[storm carbon]

how much is wood any type rare on your server

[novel surge]

uhh probably 5-8s

[hot token]

I have 16 suppliers on my employ, 3 market runners buying everthing

a bunch of gatherer feeding em

and tomorrow, i wont be able to pay for more

[storm carbon]

oof idk i personally never had issues with crafting or processing and i have epic shirts/pants for metalworking/lumbermilling and weaponsmith. but i always use same quality mats

[novel surge]

I am impressed you were able to get epic pants

[drifting gust]

oh is this why you keep telling me to raise my prices?

[hot token]

Yeah, youre prolly wasting a ton of money if thats the case, although at higher rarity it might be harder

[storm carbon]

pants costed me 40g. but i have sold in the past 3 days about 5 recipes for elixirs cause my guild farms anvils highwaymen xd

also, tools with 315 quality sell for +5G profit like candy. base is 299

[hot token]

Yes, the city relies on on shirts to be made to finance the TM upgrade so we can make JM shirts

[novel surge]

Damn that is super solid haha

[storm carbon]

i actually got an elixir recipe for 50g since last night, wonder if it got sold. havent logged yet

[novel surge]

I swear people are wiping our markets and just doing nothing with it

[storm carbon]

i sold 2 at 35g

[hot token]

you charging publicly the price of green shits for blue undermines all of it... do that for your suppliers, not the public

[storm carbon]

well....the fishing exploit fked gold economy. and people still sell really cheap most of stuff. but bis endgame stuff have gone up in price

[novel surge]

me or deft lol

[storm carbon]

we got jeweler upgrade in lotharia. costs 9g to craft a heroic petalshard and people buy it first hours 35g xd

[novel surge]

That is crazy lol

[hot token]

Tailors waiting on TM upgrades has made us raise the price of matts cause were all stuck doing app-tier quality stuff lol

[hot token]

wrecksalot

[novel surge]

ohhh

[storm carbon]

its not that tbh, all servers have had fishermen reset lures. go check the exploit bug thread here on this discord. all servers got hit

[drifting gust]

yeah, I make everything myself so I really prioritize selling fast over maximizing return

[hot token]

Guy publicly announced blue shirts at green shirt prices in the citizen chat of a textile town that relies on it to survive

[storm carbon]

you can guarantee in fishing to always get titanic 5g fish in fresh water. no lures lost on crap fish. that ended up having everyone and his mother do fishing and boom insane gold in every server

[novel surge]

oh damn

[novel surge]

And yeah kinda feels bad rushing tailoring. I have had so many people ask me about JM shirts/bags and we have probably a week before those recipes are available still

[storm carbon]

well if that guy sells blue shirts base proc he can go lower. if you really want profit from crafting you need to invest in epic/legendary pants/shirt and elixir+food. I used to be on just epic shirt first and my 299 tool was 302 and would make +1g profit. Now with 315 i make 5-7g profit per tool

[hot token]

I'm fairly certain the weaver upgrade would go up in 2-3 days if i didnt colossally fuck up then entire supply of vhal

[novel surge]

We need tailor master for the recipes dont we

[hot token]

both

[hot token]

weaver for parts in vhal, halcy putting up tailor right after

[novel surge]

What do you mean by parts?

[hot token]

vendor parts come from master weaver

for the shirt and bag parts

[slim nova]

Are you in eu?

[hot token]

and then halcy put the mastor tailor we we use the mats to craft the new recipies from halcy

[novel surge]

That is only for the higher tier armors

[hot token]

shirts

[novel surge]

Shirts are still the collar

[hot token]

True, shirts are only the recipie

[novel surge]

Need weaver upgrade for the bags though

[hot token]

bags are spindlehemp, wichi require blue oil

[novel surge]

Spindlehemp requires moonspool oil

Yep

[drifting gust]

we're on lyneth

[hot token]

Fairly sure i just cock blocked the entire server

[novel surge]

Even then, tailor got all the shitty base bags I believe for JM

[hot token]

in 1 click

Not all

[drifting gust]

how much are you buying blue vbolts for?

[novel surge]

I just mean for the first recipe we get

[drifting gust]

I have 9

[novel surge]

None of them have quality above 19

[hot token]

Im not buying shit, im broke now

[slim nova]

Arent we able to buy the good bags recipe from vendor?

[drifting gust]

I know that feeling. I have 8 silver to my name

[novel surge]

With tailoring expansion

[novel surge]

This one

[slim nova]

26?

[hot token]

i just...feel like quitting

[novel surge]

It is definitely recoverable I think

[drifting gust]

It is an alpha, if nothing else you have a headstart on learning for the beta

[hot token]

In a market where everyone is stocking up until we make the master weaver, if somehow i recover this, im gonna be broke during the gold rush

[novel surge]

tbf I think with the rush, a lot of people are gonna be tanking prices too

[hot token]

exactly

[novel surge]

I have seen a bunch of people selling threads at 10% above processing cost lol

So I dunno how much you would realistically lose

[hot token]

I'm one of the rare few people making shirts to fund this city, EVERYONE is stockpiling yardage

[drifting gust]

that was a misclikc

I am not, I'm just making and selling shirts

[hot token]

300g is way too much, nonsense

[novel surge]

Are people still buying a good amount? Feel like when I advertise lately I hardly hear anything. Though I dont use the market nearly enough either

Think people are posting shirts under a gold at this point

[hot token]

My 8 city emporium tour typically sells out in about 24 hours minus a few

[novel surge]

Feels like most people doing professions already have their stuff lol

[drifting gust]

it it tough because if you advertise in chat you can make whatever shirt the customer wants but on the market you have to commit

[novel surge]

That too

[hot token]

but whites are mostly god, since theres about 50s difference, if not less

Thats why we are niched in gathering

[novel surge]

Also @storm carbon I hadnt checked the mats too much. Definitely gonna look into a crescent at higher quality lol

[hot token]

and prrolly why i was sorely too hosile

i shoulda just bought your shirt and resell it tbh

[storm carbon]

you want real profit advertise as crafting with their mats+3-5G fee depending on how much invested you are in your shirt/pants/tool belt etc

[drifting gust]

oh yeah, that would like double the investment with your pricing

[slim nova]

Atleast you can craft jm tailoring stuff... in my server we still cant

[novel surge]

We cant either

[hot token]

Id rather do 60 shirts at a time in 10 mins worth of scrolls and do distribution over the next day

[drifting gust]

we can't yet either

[novel surge]

We are like a week away lol

[hot token]

if not more now

[slim nova]

Ahhh ok

[drifting gust]

on the plus side that means the apprentice shirt market should be strong for longer

[slim nova]

And are bag as good as shirts? To sell

[hot token]

its not strong, lol

commons are approaching cost

[drifting gust]

bags are nice, you don't have to mess with boards

[hot token]

bags move faster, but that margin is fairly gone

[slim nova]

You reckon we can still sell even with this late vs carpentry? Rare quality ~

[hot token]

just the good ones

[drifting gust]

okay, it depends on the specific bag. some of them just have speed and those are worthless

[hot token]

also, a vast swath of people have no idea there is 1. alternatives and 2. broken speed

[novel surge]

mining/hunting/herb are the ones that are decent for app

also that

[hot token]

Some just want bigger stacks

[novel surge]

Yeah I fear bag market will be DOA

[slim nova]

Thats apprentice yeah, but pretty much all jm are good no?

[slim nova]

This

[novel surge]

Pretty much all JM tailoring bags, at least the base ones from vendor, kinda suck

[hot token]

i'm sitting at server selection

[drifting gust]

I really vibe with the profeswsions here btw. I can't compete with the emporium on volume but my agile supply chain means that the little stuff I make still sells well

[hot token]

wondering if im even logging in or rerolling somewhere

[novel surge]

I am sure people will understand/get over it, realistically. As much as it may suck

[slim nova]

Isnt the bad ones you have by default, and the good ones from vendor???

[novel surge]

You dont have any by default

Same for app

These are from vendor

[hot token]

and these require spindlevine processing, which we dont have

[novel surge]

speed qual 17/17 fishing
speed qual 13/17 hunting
spoils speed 9/9 mining
speed spoils 9/29 herb
quality speed 3/37 lumberjacking

[slim nova]

Is master tailoring gonna have the good ones?

[novel surge]

I dont think we know the source of the alternative ones

[drifting gust]

wow I have never even seen spindlevine. Guess I'm going on an expedition

[hot token]

its not in anvils

i already pre-bought 20g of supply from the south

[drifting gust]

yeah, gonna head to joeva to sell the shirt and maybe look for some. I got the first expanded storage slot and it was a real game changer

[novel surge]

For secondary bags, we get good hunting and fishing

mining isnt bad but havent checked the other profs

[hot token]

is the size the same

[drifting gust]

herbalism has speed and spoils, so it's gonna b3e a tough sell since quality is so nice

[novel surge]

speed qual 5/33 hunting
speed qual 3/37 fishing
spoils qual 17/21 mining
speed spoils 13/15
qual spoils 21/17 lumberjacking

[novel surge]

Yeah they are still large instead of med

[hot token]

oh god, even lumberjacking is better

yeah, its DoA

[novel surge]

Yeah I was half tempted to save up mats to try going lego herb bags for JM once available

[worldly zealot]

And when do the other recipes for the bags come out?

[novel surge]

I dont know if we have any info

[hot token]

@worldly zealot define others?

[novel surge]

The secondary bag recipes

[hot token]

Which one are those

[novel surge]

Since the first for each one is from the vendor

[worldly zealot]

The not shit ones lol

[hot token]

TIL theres 2

[novel surge]

Yeah haha

[drifting gust]

👀

[novel surge]

These will be from the vendor as soon as we have upgrade

[novel surge]

These are the "secondary" ones that we know nothing about

[hot token]

if its like the quick-axe/cresent, its just drop

[worldly zealot]

The ones we all want

[hot token]

theres already better skivvies than the master ones available, lol

[novel surge]

the hunting and fishing ones are fat

mining is super close

herb sucks which is such a dumb design

[worldly zealot]

Tell me about, even herb jm shirt got gutted

[slim nova]

But we gotta wait for weaving

[novel surge]

Though would be kinda funny to make lego herb bags for a total of like 600 spoils

Correct

[slim nova]

In my server thats up in no one knows when 1-3 weeks lol

[novel surge]

Weaving is for the vendor mat for bags

[slim nova]

I for sure not doing tailoring any new release

[novel surge]

Yeah I am a little hesitant for sure

[worldly zealot]

I enjoy tailoring. But wouldve been nice not to see 3 professions total making bags

[slim nova]

Not even the problem. We are like 1 month behind xD

[novel surge]

Yeah I dont mind there being different bags

[slim nova]

Thats insane amount imo

[novel surge]

Obviously it is a server thing but tailoring kinda gets a very low prio

Carpentry gets way ahead because bows are good for literally everyone

and they get to make bags

Only reason hideworks isnt getting priority I think is because hunting is kind of terrible right now

[worldly zealot]

Exactly lol So by the time we get them most already have bags. Luckily some of ours are better for certain things

[novel surge]

Yeah just not a whole lot

[slim nova]

Which one you guys recommend to sell? From the bad bags

[novel surge]

And SO many people dont look into profession tabs

[worldly zealot]

But most ppl cant afford to buy bags then 2 weeks later dump that bag for our "better" bag

[slim nova]

Like our bad jm bags, nest option is what fishing/hunting?

[worldly zealot]

I think hunting and fishing

[novel surge]

Basically all of our starter bags are ass

But yeah hunting fishing

[hot token]

i honestly didnt see a difference in selling speed on un/com

[novel surge]

carpentry fishing bag is 33 speed 5 quality

[hot token]

people just want bag space

[worldly zealot]

Would've nice to have at least one or two not suck

[slim nova]

If i only invested in jewel/ weaponsmith or maybe alchemy/cooking lol

[novel surge]

Yeah ours are shockingly bad

When tailoring is typically the main prof that would make bags

[worldly zealot]

You say that, but you have to buy all alchemy recipes for elixir from other ppl or get lucky drops

[slim nova]

I have mats for like 60 JM bags rare rarity .... rip

[worldly zealot]

So not fun lol

[slim nova]

I thought we get them asap didnt know we need 2 seperate upgrades lol

[slim nova]

I promise you, i already know which prof was a gold mine and its not tailoring haha

Ofc thats based on lvl 25 server.

[worldly zealot]

True.

[hot token]

@novel surgeAny idea why KT seems literally like a ghost town? PiraseSoftware ran it to the ground&

[novel surge]

This is my first ashes experience, so there was that. I didn't think I would have such a bad time with tailoring because I didnt realize apprentice tailoring shirts/bags would have required a journeyman bench lol

And we didnt get first textile mill until almost 2 weeks in

[novel surge]

I have no clue tbh. Whole Anvils seems weirdly dead

[hot token]

Vhal is fairly booming

[novel surge]

I feel like we are a decent pop server, considering how many issues are in cities. Yet our markets feel oddly barren

[hot token]

We have vassaled every piece of the anvils lol

[slim nova]

what do you think guys.. since Weaving master is going to take quite some time

[rare mesa]

proof? because that was the last mention of the gathering system when it was changed to where fixed quality now simply spawns in random places

[slim nova]

should i just craft apprentice bags and take the L?

or just keep waiting 😄

[hot token]

omg, what

the UI is not only unreliable on input

its unreliable DURING

all the bolts are blue!

i dont undersnd why

is it because the belt is on upon claiming?!

[drifting gust]

pog, the server is saved

[novel surge]

UI is just screwed basically

We are 3 weeks in and dracaena still doesnt render

[hot token]

It has no business working tho

It shouldnt have

[worldly zealot]

Take the W and run

[novel surge]

Good thing you logged in haha

^^

[hot token]

Why does the belt being equipped on claiming change anything?

[worldly zealot]

I doubt it did. Probably visual bug?

[hot token]

the output is indeed blue, and was queued without quality

[drifting gust]

oh yeah, imagine if you just rerolled lmao

[hot token]

Theres no reasoning to what just happened

[worldly zealot]

🤣

[hot token]

none

[hot token]

this game

Should i even try 8/1

[slim nova]

what is that suppose to mean btw?

[normal rampart]

How long until grandmaster buildings start coming online?

[slim nova]

thats not accurate

[novel surge]

The calc is broken atm

[hot token]

so, 9/0?

[glacial onyx]

all out on mining, with no node buff 🙁

[slim nova]

so guys with master tailoring.. we can make shirts right?

but bags are gated behind weaving?

[novel surge]

yes

[hot token]

So people are NOT using balancing with quality? its a dead stat for crafting?

[novel surge]

I was seeing this with the other site

And about 234 quality to get 7:2

[slim nova]

can you link please

[novel surge]

https://aochelpers.com/calculators/crafting-quality

[rare mesa]

according to this ^ you also hit heavy DR at around 600 quality

[novel surge]

It doesnt use any weighting

[hot token]

this one says 8/1 should work

[novel surge]

Since it doesnt do weighting, not sure how well it works with things like bags

[hot token]

F this

[novel surge]

Yeah so calcs just arent accurate atm apparently

Maybe just an issue with smaller amounts of mats

[hot token]

Yeah well, that killed a lot of profits lol

Completely useless stat

[rare mesa]

its not useless its undertuned

in A1 I was able to craft legendaries using heroics, which was OP

but then they;ve nerfed it ot the ground it seems

[hot token]

Yeah well, it invalidates common belts, which require JM, lol

[rare mesa]

crafting is absolutely bad

[novel surge]

Has such potential. I love the idea of the system

Give us numeric values like wow has tho pls

[rare mesa]

it does yes

and i liek the overall desgin its just the systems behind it that fall apart

and teh way gathering is absolutely messed up as well

[hot token]

yeah tonight's been too much of a roller coster for me

[rare mesa]

i did make a proposal on how to make gathering great again, so also quality crafts would be easier to make given you can fulfil certain requirements so if you guys can probably leave an opinion/comment under the thread i'd be grateful

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1454766951585943684

its ofcourse only a sugestion and all numeric values are just for context

[worldly zealot]

The value could still be numerical just hidden. Take for example the linen bolts you used. Did you use the same process to get them blue? Like just barely over the line? What if those numerical values are still saved in that crafted material and we just dont see it? Yeah its blue, but what if its a .01 over the line, so that your 1 green puts in just under? Could be totally wrong though

And maybe calculator is just using the middle of the range for base material so it assumes you didnt try to gain the edge of just barely blue.

[glacial onyx]

unluckiest proc ever

[slim nova]

what are rare JM shirts sell for normally?

[novel surge]

Dont think anyone knows

[worldly zealot]

Markets all over the place. Here uncommons are down to 5-6

[slim nova]

5-6 is not that bad right?

so basically rare ones can be around 10g + easily?

[slim nova]

do they sell tho?

[worldly zealot]

Not really.

Feel like a beggar in trade chat lol

[slim nova]

whats the best way to lvl alchemy to lvl 10?

[rare mesa]

my guess is simply the cost does not reflect the benefit of the shirt it seems on most ocasions you hit DR at around 600-650 rating

snowdrops

and rare potions give you already 600 rating while gathering is absolutely screwed

[slim nova]

powder?

[rare mesa]

ye

just reap 500 of them place them for processing and go do something else for 5 hrs

[edgy zephyr]

What does DR mean ?

Does the Gathering Lvl Effect the Rarity if we use the same equipment ?

[edgy zephyr]

what does DR Mean ?

[rare mesa]

Diminishing returns

[edgy zephyr]

Sounds like a Dungeon xd

[torpid jackal]

hello guys

i am journeyman in weaving but the weaving station in miraleth ( Lotharia) don't show me the linen prepared Yardage

do anyone knows why ?

[agile lintel]

are you using the JM station? not the default apprentice one

[vivid wasp]

do i need the JM pickaxe equip to proc lithium from sandstone?

[zenith pollen]

what u guys crafting to exp fast carpentry ?

[torpid jackal]

i was in the default one

miraleth has not an weaving/tailoring building...

so i have to travel to Joeva i guess to proccess linen bolts

[wide portal]

anyone know where i can farm graveplate recipes?

[warped ingot]

Anyone know where you can hunt wolves in the anvils?

[novel surge]

That is correct if you are trying to make yardage and they have the only textile mill

[heady sandal]

Next question: How does one get profession recipes like tayloring or alchemy?

[split hornet]

hi, where can i catch starfish?
it says it can be fished in turquoise sea. but i dont know where.
becasue there is no spot that is not a sea

[heady sandal]

north of joeva is a small river

u can catch it there

[elder bay]

Good question. I find fishing poles are decent exp. But idk what’s the best bang for your buck.

[rose geyser]

Why can't I craft this Ashbrand Great Mace apprentice recipe at this apprentice station?

[stable zephyr]

In the proper region? It's 'zone' restricted'

[novel surge]

Tabletop Mountains

Means it needs to be made in Anvils

[rose geyser]

wow really? hahaha. is there any in game way to know Tabletop Mountains == Anvils?

super not clear UX

[novel surge]

Nah I am guessing it is just things needing updated

Anvils maybe used to be called Tabletop Mountains internally

[knotty scaffold]

If you look under weapon smith in crafting section using keyboard button “P” should tell you on recipe what location on bottom I believe.

[pure ginkgo]

I keep getting "unable to loot,not enough space" whenever I catch a fish, but I barely have any used inventory space and material space(4x4 grid available), anyone know if this is a bug or not? for reference I'm lvl 3 fishing.

[hollow smelt]

are the vendor materials and the processing cost reasonable, or are you thinking... WTactualF?

[main raft]

JM Lumberjacks / Miners - whats your gear set-up?

[mighty wraith]

Hey guys, is there a higher version of the "Simple Rucksack" or is that as high as it goes?

[marsh hull]

we got the weaponsmith workshop, but where can we find the recipe for the pickaxe?

which vendor sells it

[sacred chasm]

Are giant bluebell seeds not in game yet ? wiki shows them at ag and farm vendors but I don't see them.

[main raft]

Is the Codex calc accurate that these two (JM/APP) are shared and thus limiting your cap this phase?

[slim nova]

How is jm shirts market in general?

Is it ok? Do i bother with crafting uncommon-rare? Or is it good for heroic +?

[ionic radish]

Anyone have a map that shows where all the Freshwater fishing spots are in the Riverlands?

[mighty wraith]

Apparently These are only made in the "Freehold" when that gets released

[sacred chasm]

Thanks matricii

[mighty wraith]

Crafters Helping Crafters 👍

[novel surge]

Think the issue is that freeholds are disabled so theyre useless

[jovial turret]

Hey there!
So i am doing farming and cooking and i was wondering how you value spoils vs quality.
I personally am favouring spoils at the moment. what's your thoughts?

[topaz mist]

Junkosh is in Jungle right?

[hushed sable]

Noob question - If I have a journey level skill and 4 apprentice levels, can I promote another to apprentice or does the Journey take a slot, so they are cumulative?

[novel surge]

It takes a slot

[stable zephyr]

You have 5 trade slots to boost total, with the breakdown being 2/1/1/1

[novel surge]

Oh that was just above lol

[hushed sable]

Great, thanks for the quick response, the chart is awesome

[fleet geyser]

quality versus spoils for processing, anyone have any idea of the worth of stats

[cerulean iron]

anyone knows where to get the recipe?

[novel surge]

Think the secondary recipes are drops

[cerulean iron]

maybe buyable with grandmaster? cause if they would be dropable, someone would already selling em?

[novel surge]

Oh yeah possibly

[south basin]

Trying to make a Volcrist Longbow, but I don't know where Volcrist Eblems drop in the Anvils. Anyone that can help me out?

[vernal gale]

Any idea where to find iron ?

[modern junco]

how do i catch salmon? do i need bait or something

and what are those essences and how do i get them? :D

[novel surge]

Apprentice+ fishing, in riverlands at least

Essences are just random drops from mobs

[modern junco]

okay, thanks!

[vernal gale]

been searching for hours and having no luck 🙁 , starting to think there must be something to it

[night tinsel]

where do these alchemy profession elixer recipes drop?

[fickle compass]

@scarlet kestrel i have your helm for ya

@obsidian valve i have your 2 items as well , ill hold them for another day before i sell them elsewhere

[woeful bronze]

UI/wording is misleading at times, the regional crafting is tabletop mountains means has be anvils bench, tropics is tropics, riverlands is river lands, jungle is jundark, and desert/ocen/default is desert benches

[worldly zealot]

Will there be flowers that will need grandmaster herbalism? Or shoujld i not waste that as a gm

[inner gulch]

anyone figured out where the graveplate recipes drop? No luck on zombies or pirates in jundark yet

also does malgorach even exist in EA or is he bugged? used to drop a healer chest plate

[edgy zephyr]

Do i really need to use Scroll of Processing before putting that into the Workstation or is doing it after it the Way to go ?

[novel surge]

Processing before, adventuring after

[pulsar spoke]

Something is wrong with tanning ? Im at 965 process xp and getting 288 for 1 process ?

[gilded turret]

i dont think graveplate exists. farmed jundark for days. no drops no recipes

[novel surge]

Forgot to ask, do you happen to know where that recipe dropped? None of the cooks on our server have seen it yet

[inner gulch]

i know it exists because there is one person on server who has them and they are selling but gatekeeping the info hard

and they are makign the ones that require the recipes

[willow holly]

Where does one get the Recipe: Apprentice Scroll of Adventuring ? Does a vendor sell it or only random world drop?

[novel surge]

World drop

[gilded turret]

what server. can u link a pic of it from game? not a single piece or recipe at any node ive seen on resna

[inner gulch]

its on shol on the market in joeva, was jsut there 10 mins ago but im now back in anvils

[gilded turret]

i have to see this. making a toon on shol

[inner gulch]

also think there was one or two in new aela

[gilded turret]

fukn a. it exists. i was mainly referring to raw drops not existing. the recipes do for sure. guess i have a lot more farming to do

[dreamy spear]

what's the best hide combo for blue rarity?

[cerulean goblet]

not that recipe specifically but a lot of the cooking recipes seem to drop in steelbloom at the 20+ mobs... even then they're super rare and I've seen maybe 2 while grinding to 25, with both dropping at SB

[willow kestrel]

is there a current use for emeralds, sapphire ect? can't find anybody but sapphire powder and that doesn't lead to anything just searching in artisan tab,

[desert dock]

Anyone crack the code and make a new calculator yet

[potent canopy]

Any idea what the most efficient items to craft for leveling armor and weaponsmithing 10-20?

[novel surge]

Have been hearing about this being decent, though it doesnt do any weighting https://aochelpers.com/calculators/crafting-quality

Codex prob has a couple weeks to be updated

[worldly zealot]

Yes, JM shirts require emerald powder

[atomic mural]

https://ashescodex.com/artisan/crafting-calculator/simple?itemId=Resource_Processed_TannedHide_Wolf

[versed stone]

So, I'm getting way more Basalt than copper, and I specifically need the copper. What should I do with the Basalt? Make Weapon Molds? Sell it? Crack it into sand and more copper? What's the most worthwhile use for it for a Weaponsmith (in the massive quantities I'm getting (like 8 stacks of basalt for every 1 stack of copper or so).

[atomic mural]

If you have the coin then sand casino - maybe stacks of 20?

[versed stone]

That makes sense. I'm thinkin... the cost to break everything and sell the sand comes out to 21 copper - 7 copper from sellign the sand... so like 14 copper. So if I casino 1/4 of what I mine and vendor the rest, I end up coming out a copper ahead I guess, plus my non-sand mats.

[red laurel]

hey guys, id like to talk about the way crafting xp is generated. The game is very economy driven but I fear that the race to the next tier will ruin it for everyone who did not get there first. People will undercut and sell at a loss, cause they overproduce just to get xp.

Only the top tier will have value down the line, and it will be very tough for anyone who did not race to the end, or who joined late to have a chance. The costs of manufacturing are very steep. And until you establish yourself Its a real struggle, Especially if you cant sell anything that is not of the highest tier.

We need to make every tier worth while, and profitable. and not have anyone undercut for pure xp gain.

So I though. what if the crafting xp was connected to how much you sold, and how much profit you made. Any company is measured by how much money they make, not by how much stuff they produce.

[versed stone]

That would be really difficult for the game to track. How does it calculate profit? Off of the material price vs. the sale price, or does it factor in other things, like value added to convert daffodils to flax? If it doesn't factor that in, you can end up in a situation where people actually get no crafting experience whatsoever for a considerable amount of time and money investment, while others make plenty. Also you're exacerbating the issue of "the people who get there first get the bonus" because it's the high level players that can go to distant areas to sell where the supply is lower, while it's the new players who will be struggling to get sales when competing with so many other new players (keep in mind, competition drives prices down, and competition is going to be greatest where the population is greatest, which is generally in the new player zones until the game is several years in after launch). Plus, you'd make it to where no one would want to do person-to-person sales or they'd be missing out on experience (unless you want to solve the programmatically much, much more difficult problem of how to parse the trade window to figure out how much profit was generated for each heterogenous item in the window)

[red laurel]

good points, now try to think about the positives and give some inputs into how it COULD work, ok?

However they measure all data in real life, track everything we do to sell it - we can do here too (not the selling part). And it should be much easier since its all digital and in a closed system they made. yeah? No reason to pretend its an impossible task.

_

Getting crafting xp purelly for massproducing the most useless item in the game, is a lazy and bad design no matter how you put it. There is no denying it. So if Ashes want to do things differently than all the others. (and they do) they need to scrap the crafting xp for overproduction idea, and come up with something better..

Connecting some of the xp gain to sales numbers is one idea they could look at.. Feel free to find an even better one.. The one we have now sucks. Cause people have an incentive to throw money out of the window to get ahead. But if getting ahead meant you need to be profitable, the entire dynamic changes.
You must see that. right?

I am not saying all of the xp gain should come from the sale. Im suggesting that it plays a part, and becomes the proffered method to gain levels in the skill they want to level. Call it the "meta"

Now before you begin typing - No one will benefit from a reply that explains why we cant do that. unless you think the current system is perfection.. Lets try take this idea to the next level and make it even better than what I just said.. Thats how ideas mature into working concepts.

[spiral cargo]

where do u get glassviel emblems

[wide portal]

anyone know where i can farm graveplate recipes?

[final tendon]

anyone know where the cooking recipes for gathering/processing/crafting recipe drop? or any hint?:p

[main raft]

We got paella at Timbercatch in Anvils. I'm pretty convinced things are truly global.

[main raft]

10-20 in Carpentry is still just...Oak/Ash crate for leveling?

[pure tangle]

Is Fumitor in the game yet?

[zenith pollen]

what craft for arcane engineering ?

im rn at 10 lvl

[inner gulch]

anyone know where you can pack these crates? for LM/MW? dont see the option in the node, just the raw ingredient packs

[long sigil]

Is it a known bug for crafting stations to eat materials? We placed high level bluebells in to make bags, came back 90 mins later and it was empty

[silver warren]

Has anyone tried crafting petalshard using all epic rubies, common everything else, with an epic elixer/gem gelato at around 1200 power and seeing the result? Wondering if the Codex is still accurate

[wide portal]

I haven't tried the specific recipe but I can tell you for sure that ashescodex isn't accurate yet, info is outdated.
In my experience you get lower quality in game than what ashescodex shows you

[silver warren]

Thats what we found on the weapons, Heroic wasnt hitting until about 70% into the heroic bar

[wide portal]

Yeah it's quite inaccurate still sadly

[storm carbon]

if you trynna skimp on mats, you are better off using all epic. all epic will also provide higher quality proc on the item. so if base epic is 299, all epic mats+buffs etc will make it 320+

and ofc you can charge much more for a 320-330 tool for example compared to a 299 lmao

[silver warren]

Im trying to determine the accuracy of the codex.

There is a power range for any crafted item, yes I know, and the better quality mats the better result. There is also a tradeoff regarding time gathering or cost of supplies vs end result and I'm crafting for new guild members, no money being made.

[storm carbon]

just tell them to get you mats, otherwise let them use an uncommon or rare tool at start. I doubt anyoone that wants a good tool/weapon would skimp. But true if you just wanna help people then you could potentialy skimp.

[calm crescent]

If you cancel a process (like metalworking) do you get the processing fee back?

[viscid cedar]

Anyone know where to farm the stoneglem emblems and recipes at?

[drifting gust]

man, I hope artisan skill tree comes out soon, but I know it's a long shot

[terse hull]

Do crates sell for more if they are filled with all higher tier materials? Like slate and tin instead of granite and zinc

[cunning wind]

Do gathering levels past 20 give any additional benefits? Any quality, etc?

[twin jewel]

Please tell me, what is the most profitable way to process snowdrops?

[spring summit]

where my flower lovers at

[spring summit]

i feel like it'd be thread, don't quote me though

[acoustic egret]

Does anyone have any knowledge what materials besides copper rubin and tin are global? Which ones are not region-locked? I am trying to find out more about this

[twin jewel]

i think about flax or powder...

[spring summit]

snowdrop powder ya maybe for arcane engineering weapons and potions

[drifting gust]

depending on rarity Flax is probably a good bet

[rose geyser]

where do I get Veinspike Resin for crushing slate? Just ran to a settlement with a smithy and the vendor doesn't seem to have it, is there a special smithy vendor?

ok I found it... wow this feels unreasonably expensive?? I have 260 common slate to crush and 160 resin would cost 4.35g...

and 20h for a full batch?? hahaha wow ok

[atomic mural]

Is that the Fragment Casino? I'd do smaller batches myself just in case your big batch is unlucky

[spring summit]

where the bluebell spots at?

[rose geyser]

say more about how batches work? sounds like you're saying 1 roll of something per batch?

[atomic mural]

I think it's one roll at the collection stage because some batches at the sand casino have produced nothing but sand.

[rose geyser]

that's awful and insane

[heavy pulsar]

you got it from highwaymen?

[versed flare]

Does the quality of stone/metal ore vary depending on the region?

[grim adder]

Do I bother continuing 40 minutes of crafting if the server is shutting down in 25?

[pallid charm]

hi, someone knows how i can repair my ship? it has 2k/330k hp

[woven stone]

Thats the fun part, you cant!

[wide portal]

Does anyone know where graveplate gear drops?

[rigid drift]

how do i fix armor/equipment?

[woven stone]

chance of recipes from Jundark mobs, but its really rare for even that. Its a default smithy recipe for any Jundark city, but most arent built up

[wide portal]

Ah I see thanks

[sharp ivy]

where is a good place to find iron?

[radiant ingot]

anyone remember where/what quest they got the Lost Squire Belt recipe? i have it and dunno from where, gotta help someone else get it

[novel surge]

I got it from an early drop

Specifically in Briar area

[radiant ingot]

oh a DROP. damn hmm...thank you, i'll look into that!

[novel surge]

Yeah have only had it on 1/3 characters haha

Well sorry I had the tailoring version

But can only assume it is the same rule

[ocean umbra]

Bottom left corner of any vendor box is a little hammer for repairs

[main raft]

Any tekkers to levleing Carpentry 10-20, are Journeyman Scrolls of Carpentry, etc worth it, do you just bomb crates still?

[steady oar]

anyone know the values for rosarium heroic quality rating of crafter and the mats used?

[storm carbon]

lookin for fast sale, lotharia server eu.

[cerulean iron]

did any crafter already tested mixing epic/hero ingots?

with green/blue and epic it works, it gets hero

[obtuse sigil]

does enchanting artisan gear is not working? i tried to enchant but stats are same, did anyone else tried or have any info on this?

[steady veldt]

For the nightreaver great sword, if I use 100 common tendonite ingots, 100 uncommon tendonite ingots, 2 heroic tharaxite, and 7 epic eddledom boards what quality would it come out as with 1800 crafting

[worldly zealot]

Most likely heroic

[steady veldt]

Thank you

[fervent hound]

should i sell heroic and epic stone or grind them for a chance of gems and ores?

[worldly terrace]

Whats the min lvl for Journymen

[timid ledge]

is it no longer possible to get pylons?

[worldly zealot]

Any luck or info on the 2nd recipes for jm tailoring bags?

[novel surge]

Might be a later weaving upgrade

[novel surge]

Doesn't exist this cycle

[novel surge]

For professions i dont think there's a minimum adventurer level

[novel surge]

Im sure some have but be careful since ashes codex isn't accurate atm

I do wonder, for crafting quality does it affect the rarity and the stat rolls independently? Obviously it can allow you to mix and match rarity to hit a threshold. But for higher stat rolls, does it matter the rarity of the materials or just as long as you are reaching that threshold?

[worldly terrace]

In the menu it says Apprentice or somthing

[lusty kindle]

has nothing todo with your level

[worldly terrace]

So when im in the field and something is too high?

[lusty kindle]

?

[novel surge]

Adventurer level != Profession level

[worldly terrace]

Says something like "not able to get this rock"

[novel surge]

As an example, this requires apprentice (level 10) herbalism to use but the grade is Initiate, meaning your character can be level 1

[worldly terrace]

Right but if i see something that i cant mine, what do i do to change thjat

[novel surge]

Get your mining level/pickaxe up

It will say what you require

[worldly terrace]

Its level 10 and dont see where it tells me how

[novel surge]

Does it say novice or apprentice for your skill menu

[cinder bridge]

is there any tips for doing animal husbandry? just buy mules and raise them?

[worldly terrace]

Novice

Mining gatheirng lvl 10 not sure when i go up

[novel surge]

At 10 you need to visit the person to upgrade your certification

Usually at aven's end or briar

[worldly terrace]

ty

[wicked agate]

Sry to ask but, what is the best item to craft to lvl weaponsmith from apprentice to jm pls? I was planning to spam novice tools but not sure if this is the best way...

[austere whale]

If i want to Craft a Epic bag, whats the best way to min max the crafting to still get epic? or does all the mats have to be epic mats?

[sharp ivy]

you can only have 4 journeymen artisans correct?

[novel surge]

yep 4 jm profs

[warped ingot]

is there a spot in the anvils you can consistently hunt something other than rams? rams are cool, but i cant level tanning with them

[simple hamlet]

anyone with a ship not able to deploy it?

[novel surge]

@hot token safe bet that the plateau up in anvils is usually pretty wiped out? Trying to find a halfway decent area for some flax but with how close that is to vhal, I figure it is probably clean lol

[hot token]

Theres no real flax spot up here

i have to contract farmers

[novel surge]

Aw damn, was hoping that wasnt the case lol

Although I guess I could probably buy wood chips pretty cheap for the lower quality

[hot token]

my farmers get chips from my boarders

[novel surge]

Not sure how I feel about the food buffs. Spending like 2.5g for an hour without like a crazy improvement feels sorta bad. Feel like I never see much epic from herbalism comapred to lumberjacking

[hot token]

i cant say i know the feeling, im not 20 yet

im assuming you using a crescent

[novel surge]

Yeah this was running the western coast. From the one gate south of the port to the one tomb NW of KT

Yep

[hot token]

Heyo legos

[novel surge]

These were my stats with blue elixir and green food

heroics sadly

I hit 28 herb during this run still never seen a lego lol

[hot token]

oh my screen too dark

[novel surge]

After that I went through the tropics to fill up on flax but yeah im at 1 epic drop in the last like 500-600 nodes

[hot token]

why do people say that

i went all the way to brine and not a single flax beside the 3 lego i found on the market for 4s

[novel surge]

Depends on where you go haha but it is weirdly scattered for the most part

The very NW corner of shorefoot used to be good and then looping in to vex/kt but that area has been clean the past couple times ive tried

[hot token]

that place is wildly dangerous

[novel surge]

This is roughly what I've done

[hot token]

huh

[novel surge]

It was something that came up from an old video. Its okayish

That inventory i sent you was from a full hour

Even then, take off the drac and some flax since that was on the way there lol

[hot token]

Not bad

[novel surge]

Yeah but not as much as id like when spending 2.5g on consumables lol

Especially considering my gathering stats there are pretty high

Think im just sad at the lack of epic procs lol

Have filled all 3 herb bags i think 4 times now woth only 1 proc

I also just dont like to woodcut and dont want 2 layers of rng for decent flax even though farming is probably my best choice

[hot token]

Yeah, but something fills odd

my suppliers mostly stopped logging in a few days ago

mixed with everyone stacking mats for when we pop the upgrades

margins are gonna be so thin

[novel surge]

Yeah always a little odd when you see people filling market at a buy price of like 10% margin. It's like, yeah they are probably gathering most of it but if you tried buying any it is actually losing money

Flax is definitely in an odd place. Korrin has a good bit but the island is spooky. The areas where there are okayish flax spawns in tropics also have a ton of mob density usually

[hot token]

Something feels odd about tropics

why are the roads covered in ** mobs

[novel surge]

Yeah that is my biggest gripe

[hot token]

with no real POI

[novel surge]

Handful of flax nodes but you have 12 level 18 ** lizards around them

Or the spiders, or the assassins, or the flayers

But farming also seems questionable. Common flax goes for 1s. To make the flax, it is like 24c in vendor mats plus 2 different sets of processing and whatever flower/chips you have so it would be the same cost

[hot token]

Especially since artisans are not always exactly fighters

[novel surge]

Yeah just a really odd choice. But maybe my best bet is just popping consumables and going to a massive field of daffodil/snowdrop

Downside being the usual lack of blue/moonbell depending on where you go. That KT route at least has a decent bit but is a hefty run from the riverlands

Also shame that spindlevine is going to be effectively useless. I think out of everything, including secondary bag recipes, there are 2 useful ones

[hot token]

oof

Well, its a riverlands speciality, we dont have that here

[novel surge]

Spindlevine you mean? It feels like you're not missing out too much haha. I guess we will see if people go for the tailoring bags much

How far is weaver looking? Think we were 130/300g on tailor before I hopped off

[hot token]

Most people dont know the difference

[novel surge]

Yeah loads of people are unaware of being able to check in the P menu

[dull smelt]

where does one train hunting from lvl 10+?

[heavy pulsar]

Anyone have some advice for finding gatherer/crafter/processing food recipes? Those that have them, seems to have 2 or all 3. Feel like theres a decent spot and I just don't know where the recipes are at.

[scarlet valve]

Hey someone got tips on how to level up tailoring? wanted to get started.

[true quartz]

Anyone know of a decent spot to farm ravens and raptors?

[fervent hound]

Why does no one buy green and blue mats?

[muted topaz]

Has every server the same problem to find cacao wood ? I started to believe they are insanly rare, or maybe their spawns are bugged,under the map or does lotharia just has a bot problem ?

[glacial onyx]

they call me the rock eater

[drifting pebble]

guys u know the carpenter crates u can pack with resources

i cannot interact with them at all

not in caravan menu storage menu

[novel surge]

good lord how is your generic quality so high but mining is just okayish lol

getting some decent qualit mats overall?

[glacial onyx]

in 1 hour, the common node has the hardest chance to get higher rarity so its definitely a huge noticeable upgrade

[novel surge]

When you say common node do you just mean the rock? Also wow looks way better than my run with about 1500 herbalism quality. I am wondering if they function slightly different

[glacial onyx]

yea the normal basalt granite

[novel surge]

Obviously anecdotal too but still

[glacial onyx]

#alpha-two-artisan-chat message

[novel surge]

Yeah I recall reading through that. I just feel like I have had some bad luck. I think I am at 600+ nodes gathered with 900ish minimum quality and only had 1 harvest of epic flowers lol

[glacial onyx]

flower nodes might have different rarity, same as trees. that would require more testing

but after 300 hours of gathering i can be very sure that higher tier node will drop higher rarity stuff more frequently

[novel surge]

That is something I had wondered about

But yeah definitely noticed that lumber seems more common to have higher rarity. I have had a decent few heroic/epic logs with basically 0 quality while just gathering boards

[glacial onyx]

i have gotten 0 ZERO legendary basalt/granite copper/zinc

from lv 1 - 50

but iron i get 12 over the lifetime

[novel surge]

Yeah I am up to 29 herbalism without ever seeing lego

[glacial onyx]

2 legend junksosh

4 legend slate

its stupid

[novel surge]

It is even funnier because I have made 2 characters in the anvils, both only like level 4-5 atm, and each one has had heroic/epic mat drops

The one got heroic AND epic daffodils during the starter quest to make a bag

[solar dawn]

Are master recipes in this current build of the game?

[novel surge]

Dont believe so

[solar dawn]

Thanks!

[solar dawn]

I'm a Master herbalist and I do feel that we get less chance at higher tiers. I assume since there are so many more flower nodes in the world.

I do hope leveling gathering gives you a base increase in quality chance instead of just gear unlocks.

[novel surge]

Yeah it is really odd. Like I am at a base quality of 740 right now. Then whatever the town boon ends up being and consumables if I use those. Basically never getting epic procs

Meanwhile, 3 separate times I have gathered wood with basically 0 quality and have had epic logs each time

[solar dawn]

Yeah I have gotten a decent bit of heroic and epic but I unironically feel like I was getting more when I was apprentice. And I have kept up on gathering. I basically leveled 16-17 gathering and processing flowers

Then i go mine or cut wood like you said and I feel it's every other node I get uncommon or higher. More accurately probably 1/4

[merry lantern]

someone can explain me why i cant buy it?

[silent steeple]

ive had this same thing happen but im a main lumberjacker, 1000+ quality with buffs. Did an hour long farm for coconut, did not get a single proc of anything over blue. Meanwhile I decided to level herbalism and got like 15 epics by the time I was 10 ( took about 45 min). It feels like the quality rating does not work, or is so small of an increase its hard to notice. It would be nice for it to show what the rateing does for you imo.

[solar dawn]

Yes this was an issue with New World and luck. It felt so obscure some people even believed luck gave a negative to finding better items lol. A clearer understanding of the stat and thresholds would be welcome

[maiden pawn]

Grayed out on the vendor. It means the station hasn’t been upgraded to where it becomes available.

[merry lantern]

ty

[silent steeple]

ive timed my cuts with speed and that seems to work, pretty easy to test since its measurable. Ive thought about just to full speed and farming the dense trees but in the back of my mind im holding out hope quality actually works lol

[solar dawn]

I'm sure it does there's just a lot of factors at play and I'm sure Im just not fully taking advantage of the systems. I would rather less flower nodes and higher rarity chance and slightly reduce material costs in crafts to compensate, though. I think all the Alchemy costs are good so far. Idk we'll see where it lands especially with mast and grand master gear

[novel surge]

Yeah like it could be purely anecdotal but I feel like a lot of people have said the rarity of mats felt higher when they were lower levels/certs

[novel surge]

I had to use a stopwatch when I first when from novice sickle to a heroic apprentice. Think it went from 11.5 to 10.5s with the 200ish speed upgrade. At the time, definitely thought it would be more noticeable

This is 45 mins into a trip with about 1600 quality

Using a common herb elixir and epic gatherer's salad

Just hit 30 herb so prob gonna bump that up to master as well once I finish up

Maybe that yields better or worse results

[silent steeple]

yea thats crazy,

[novel surge]

Like, there isnt a ton of room for improvement on my gear

And the salad was 3g but I wanted to test it at least

[silent steeple]

yea i bought the epic salad a few times to test it too

[novel surge]

Just got my first epic snowdrop

[silent steeple]

lol

[novel surge]

So 2nd epic in probably close to 800 nodes

I think I add up all the herbs and divide by 3.6 roughly

Since I am not manually counting nodes

[silent steeple]

i was wondering if maybe there is a hidden mechanic for gathering, where quality is either tied to the level of the node you are in or there is some dimensioning returns based on how many people are gathering that material but just speculation

[novel surge]

Yeah I am really curious. Obviously dont want to ping Steven because that is wasteful. I know there is talk about overhauling/updating the professions but would love a proper explanation of how they work at the moment

But it really feels like there should be more higher procs for what is currently like a 3.5g/hr investment lol

[silent steeple]

yep agree

[novel surge]

Like you need 10 snowdrop powder for 1 elixir that lasts 1 hour

If I had done purely snowdrop, I would just barely have enough to sustain that

And I think 8 salads is 5 mulch

I do think you really feel the spoils upgrade though

Which is why I was considering going for legendary JM tailor bags to dump all into spoils

I will do another hour with master herbalism though

[silent steeple]

yea i can feel the spoils too for lumberjacking, I get 6 and 7 procs often vs all 5's

spoils and speed seem to be fine

[novel surge]

Yeah speed has been considered broken as in not functioning but really I just dont think it is impactful enough to invest in

[silent steeple]

oh really? i measured speed and it makes it go quicker for me. at least the last time i chacked

it was like 12sec vs 14 sec with the elixir poped so 450 speed or so cut 2sec

[novel surge]

Yeah I noticed the change when I bumped to my apprentice sickle initially too. I think it just isnt as noticeable as people would like

This was the full hour with like 100 more common that I destroyed to make space for green lol

That is roughly 1600 quality and 1000 spoils

So assuming I destroyed/ignored 100 (might be more) we had 961 flowers. Dividing by 3.6 as a complete guess for spoils, that is about 267 nodes

And I have done at least 3 other trips with roughly this many, though those would be varying amounts of quality. Minimum of probably 900 and have only had 1 epic proc from all of those as well lol

[novel surge]

I do wonder about this being the case too. I have had epic spindlevine and epic gloomy pross once each. However, I have gathered at most like 20 nodes of those

Again, could be purely anecdotal. Could be weighting based on level, could be that quality isnt functioning properly

But it's tough too because I don't have that much room for improvement on quality right now. Was using epic salad, so that is effectively maxed on consumable boosting. Maybe 400ish more from full epic gear?

Epic twilight crescent, epic toolbelt, uncommon apprentice pants, epic app bags

[untold marsh]

Have anybody hade the chance of doing the Graveplate recipie outside of jundark? Is it possible? Was not possible to do lvl23 armour outside of the dropp area last reset but I wanted to know if thats intended...if it is we will have no heavy healer set untill lvl29 gear making pvp extreamely unbalanced.

[dawn warren]

Grave plate can be made outside jundark. It seems it's a bug that any non default recipe(or most) can be made in any zone

[echo sand]

does anyone know where emberwake recipes drop?

[untold marsh]

So yes, graveplate can be made outside Jundark BUT its not intended? did I understand that correct...and thx for answer m8

[dawn warren]

I would assume it isn't intended. There's a lot of recipes missing location tags, but they have the correct building requirements.

[jaunty swan]

where do these recipes drop though? codex is just wrong about graveplate

[dawn warren]

The grave plate? Any higher level mobs in the jundark have a chance. Best spot is probably verdance ruins

[novel surge]

Time to test another run at master

Will be with these stats

[novel surge]

2nd trip, 3 of the heroic daffodil were after food buff wore off

Bit luckier on rare this time around. Would help hold more if I hadnt picked up flax but also wasnt gonna drop green/blue haha

Wondering if a proper test would be a huge field like out in Duunhold and only collecting a single flower type

[blazing karma]

Include more keywords after this command to search for answers to some of our FAQ (ex. !cs password reset), or open a Customer Support ticket directly here if you are having account or technical issues: https://support.ashesofcreation.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[quiet flame]

Anyone know if the Komodo’s can be tamed at this time?

[solar dawn]

Out near New Aelea there is a massive field of mostly daffodils

[hot token]

I'm guessing that the stat scaling is tuned for tier 5 and that mid game ratings are NOT high enough to make a huge difference at the top end, but enough to upgrade Commons to uncom/rare more often

[novel surge]

Yeah that is kinda how it is feeling. Giving me second thoughts about making this epic herb belt instead of tailoring lmao

[novel surge]

Oh I may have to take a peek if it isnt too crowded out there

Although from halcyon, it might be an equal distance

But 2 agri tables in NA to turn into mulch/flax

[hot token]

Yeah the daff fields in duun prolly closer

And so massive

[novel surge]

I think I am gonna bump up my farming so I can wear the items though

Yeah I know at least 2 spots out there

There is that cliffside that is kinda huge

[hot token]

Fairly sure I'd be master farmer by now lol

[novel surge]

And I took this last night

Which honestly isnt too far from the cliff

But yeah NA spot might be better just because there are 2 farm tables there

[novel surge]

I wouldnt be surprised from the sounds of it lol

Also yardage gives a little more exp than expected. I did 250 yardage and got just shy of 100k adventure xp from it

[hot token]

I have too much yardage with no end in sight to this predicament

[novel surge]

Will definitely give it a 3rd test at some point. Only difference between those two is that I had bumped up to master herb. Though the master herb trip got like 2.5x rare drops

Could have just been lucky

And yeah I only have like 300 yardage atm

[hot token]

Vacation time is over, I'm guessing we won't make it to 300g by next weekend either. Been trying to fundraise but no go

[novel surge]

Yeah Nehelion mentioned that there was an accidental spending of like 50g for war prep commissions

[hot token]

659 whites. 200 uncom, 50 rares

[novel surge]

We are at 141/300g as of 3 hours ago

[hot token]

Prolly getting more foot traffic now that dreadlords and rdm seems to have pushes south

[novel surge]

I am unsure if I trust any calcs atm enough to risk a purple shirt lol

This is assuming 900 qual

[hot token]

No longer touching qual gambling until the in game version is properly fixed

[novel surge]

Lol yeah like I would be willing to test with green and maybe blue shirts but not purple

[amber wren]

Any1 know wt mobs the elixir recipes have dropped from?

[main raft]

Anywhere that gives the XP ammounts for crafting certain items?

[hot token]

ashes codex has a planner i believe

[obtuse sigil]

i really wonder if qulity stat really effects anything, i got 21 epic in 1 run yesterday with 137 quality no food or elixir and my normal runs usally looks like this

[novel surge]

Wait that is insane lmao

[obtuse sigil]

yeah i couldnt belive either no idea how that happened

[novel surge]

Yeah I am really wondering if I should have used my mats to get an epic tailor belt instead of herb

[woeful garnet]

last phase quality got bugged, one of the fixes was to take EVERYTHING off your character (gear, bags, artisan stuff, cosmetics, etc) and put it back on before taking any food/elixir and it would fix it. Not sure if this would work now or if it is the same bug or not, but worth a try

[obtuse sigil]

i read somehwere not sure if true but sometimes town buff also gets bugged so maybe that how i got those epics

[novel surge]

Yeah I have noticed the town buff either gets stuck or just changes a bunch

[novel surge]

As in completely emptying your Adventurer and Artisanship tabs? And was this every time before taking consumables?

[woeful garnet]

not necessarily every time, but if you notice your gathering drops are crap even with high quality gear, then thats when you would try it. Again, not sure if its the same this time around or not

[novel surge]

Yeah for sure. I wonder if SeeTwo's theory is accurate too. Would love if we could get some confirmation

I think the most quality I can get at this point is maybe 300-400

[novel surge]

Can get an extra 75ish from going to lego app bags, maybe 100+ if I can do epic JM but the LW mats are going to be prohibitively expensive. Same for going to high tier JM pants. That and the JM sickle recipe isnt available yet

[fast swan]

do we need coveglass for anything or is it useless?

[woeful ginkgo]

does anyone know if the ashescodex's crafting calc is still acurate on the results for gear?

[novel surge]

no

[hot token]

Anyone know why a 11g tax on purchases only added 4g in coffers?

[novel surge]

I believe half of the tax is basically deleted and if the location is a vassal, part of it goes to the main town

[versed flare]

what is this tool?

[novel surge]

https://aocarmory.com/crafting-calculator

[versed flare]

thank you!

[desert dock]

Can someone please ELI5 how to get a Befallen Anvil Relic?

[hot token]

we own the north

[novel surge]

Do you know which direction?

[red pine]

is this 100 % accurate?

[shell onyx]

so....hunting....why is skinning not a thing? Why do I need 1,158 wolf carcasses to make a full Rosethron set....why does each tier of wolf hide/fur/leather need an additional carcasses.....and circling back to the skinning...why is that not in the game

[woven stone]

Hunting and animal husbandry are on the docket for reworks in 2026

It's an alpha, but those two have been pretty egregious

All the artisan skills are supposed to have more fleshed out abilities other than 'press F'. They're supposed to have skill trees, so on and so on

It's an alpha, but by the time the game comes out, it'll be so dated

[hot token]

might be more than the others

the others would tell me this is blue

[solar dawn]

I think here: https://ashescodex.com/map?x=-1026200.7245513324&y=769493.7593399563

On the left in that open field is where it started

[fast swan]

Is coveglass any usefull? Or just throw away?

[hidden gale]

gamble the high ones in metalworking to Tin for big profit.

[fast swan]

Why? It not better to craft armor mild for good gear?

Mold

[hidden gale]

There is a high demand on epic Tin for all sickles, axes etc.. at least im doing so

[fast swan]

Okay!

I will check prices

[hidden gale]

but be warned! if you are unlucky you crush 10 purps and just get out a bunch of epic sand 😄

[naive yoke]

what calc is this? is it more accurate than codex?

[hot token]

I cant say it's 100% correct, but its more accurate than the 2 others

according to this one you need 187 to save 1 linen bolt for green app shirts

[fast swan]

Yeah i know 😄

[verbal herald]

guys, where do i get recipe or can craft rare sickle - The Twilight Crescent ? its a t2 weaponsmithing recipe

[foggy void]

Hi guys im journeyman amorcrafting it seem i cannot find recipes for radian items , any one know how to get it?

[brisk pivot]

Anyone know the best craft for App tailoring to hit journeyman?

[next plank]

farming vendor if it has the right upgrade

[verbal herald]

is there anyway to see in game on a map which upgrade is right?

[versed flare]

What determines the stats when crafting an item? Is there any way to increase them, or are they just random?

[next plank]

I saw the red bell and thought yay servers are back. But it was you xD

It's the wheat icon on a map

or grain or whatever it is

[next plank]

input materials + crafting quality + temporary buffs (if any)

[verbal herald]

yeah i understand how icon looks, what i mean, if there few posssinle upgrades in different cities, how do i know which one i need?

[next plank]

oh the top one in building upgrades

if you click on building in UI on settlement tab, then on bottom right it should have a button saying "building upgade". You can click on that to see the upgrade tree - and from there you can hover over the icons to see which upgrade providers what, etc.

[verbal herald]

thanks for explanation, but which exact upgrade am i looking for? Farming vendor upgrade or what

[wraith tendon]

level 20+ humanoids or buy on market place.

[warm sphinx]

For apprentice crafting skills is it more efficient to craft a million initiate items to get to journeyman or craft apprentice stuff with the ingots/boards? Are the mats worth the xp?

[crude grail]

i am looking for graveplate recipies ... anyone of u guys know where to get the recipes ? the onliest useful gear we can get as casters atm ... and since imbalance between phy and magic drops is ridiculous: pls help me xD

[cedar oriole]

is it intended for enchanting scrolls to not affect this item? And if so, why are you able teo enchant it?

[woeful bronze]

graveplate is drops only recipe i believe from jundark but may be wrong on that, if your looking for adept entry point magical heavy armor there is the stormcanon set avaliable in tropics village (chest, legs and boots) with rest the pieces avaliable from vendor when smithy is built in tropics

[woeful bronze]

have you bug reported this, to my understandning the stats should have increased with the enchanting

[cedar oriole]

I will write a report. Just wanted to see if I've missed anything

[wicked agate]

Can some1 help with this pls

[glacial onyx]

unnff

[obtuse sigil]

you can use tempering kit to raise it to max it can be

[sour narwhal]

Have you seen how absolutely rediculous the cost is to temper anything? For the most horrible increase in stats too

[twin lodge]

Theres quality thresholds that are invisible to the player, if you make that pick with mix of epic and legendary materials it will come out epic but slightly better stats than pure epic materials

[obtuse sigil]

yeah i also spent lot of gold on it too XD i also tried enchating my herb sickle and it abosuletly does nothing even tough it takes 60 silver to enchant lol

[cedar oriole]

I've learned that even the regular apprentice clothes don't gain stats from enchanting. At that point it's clear, that something is not working as intended.

[silent plover]

looking at journeyman weaponsmithing. Why is there 5 different sickle recipies? I've only been able to find 1 on a vendor.

[fast swan]

hi you guys knwo where i can find heartstone? jundark? tropics?

[shell furnace]

Has anybody tested if shortsword skill tree "executioner 1,2,3" get procd when using bow/shortbow?

[desert dock]

Can I craft the Dunzentine bow on the Forge table?

[tight turret]

there is in the game any smithy or any kind of crafting table outside the cities?

[desert dock]

the Forge

[tight turret]

inside the dungeon?

[desert dock]

yes

I've never tried to craft the forge bows there -- curious if you can

[tight turret]

how deep is itÇ?

there is any forge in jungle like this one?

[gloomy garnet]

The other recipes likely unlock and will be purchasable with master and grand master upgrades

[lusty kindle]

probably grand master our master upgrade offers no single recipe for journeyman even though he really should

[maiden pawn]

Different stats on each one.

[wicked agate]

Looking for advice to lvl up weaponsmithing from apprentice to JM pls...

[lusty kindle]

just make tools and sell them ?

[wicked agate]

spaming novice tools just for exp not worth?

[lusty kindle]

if you want to loose money sure

i prefer up to 50% profit on each tool

[storm carbon]

time is money friend nyerk nyerk. but yea if you wanna wait for each apprentice common tool to sell you can do that. Fastest for weaponsmith as an investment then you hit journeyman and can make back some of it with glorybound/pyrebrand, is spamming with scrolls/elixir of crafting exp for novice shields

[lusty kindle]

if you can afford to build journeyman stuff then (from deleting all your money before) sure

[storm carbon]

thats always the case, you invest to journeyman then make money. unless its fresh start and people need apprentice tools. now you dont get money at apprentice levels sadly

[lusty kindle]

i make good money ^^

[storm carbon]

i doubt anyone buys rare quickaxe at 5. but who knows. also those are listed no? doesnt show that you actually made money. i am 35 weaponsmith, only thing that does make money is epic tools cause people pay 5g+ of the mat cost

[lusty kindle]

i sold 5 today

[storm carbon]

wild. i guess people are stupid on some servers

[lusty kindle]

we are not that far on tenok

and copper price is high

[storm carbon]

on lotharia 15g would get them an epic high rolled atm. i doubt i ve seen blues higher than 2g lately. but yea i guess more populated

[lusty kindle]

more populated more available (im the only one selling twilight crescent atm)

and its the best you can get if you stay at apprentice herbalism

[storm carbon]

how come did they remove the agricultural supply station? the recipe is on the vendor there

[lusty kindle]

not everybody needs journeyman tools

[storm carbon]

yea ik i sold some 315+ crescents day 1 of agricultural was up on lotharia. 25g+

[lusty kindle]

its available but yeah nobody sells it on the market ^^

i would be stupid telling them xD

sold an heroic one for 7g 10 minutes ago

[storm carbon]

on lotharia heroic used to be 10-13g. i guess you guys must have cheap heroic mats, ours crashed too

from 30-40s+ to 10s lol

[lusty kindle]

copper ~10-15s wood ~9-15s

[novel surge]

Meanwhile on Lyneth, mat prices exploded for a few days

[lusty kindle]

is there a good source to check where the recipes are from ?

[novel surge]

Ohhh I was looking so much closer to NA haha

[covert sky]

ya, how do we test a game when they dont giv us anything to work with in a alpha

[novel surge]

I will say it also makes me wonder if investing into spoils is more worth it

If I did 3 Lego JM tailor bags, each one would have close to 200 spoils i think

[red laurel]

I really like the idea of the market being a front stall for each merchant rather than an auction house. Id like to see a more personalized version of that, where people could design a logo and brand for their stall and become known vendors

[onyx wyvern]

Are the speed stats on gathering tools working?

[lusty kindle]

idk its the worst system i have to play with in the last 20 years

[twin lodge]

you need a lot to meet certain breakpoints.

[novel surge]

Yeah my guess is it is more like "this amount of speed skips a swing" and adjusts the progress from there

[dawn warren]

Yes they are

[novel surge]

Did another full hour, this time with just daffodil. Subtract 3 epic and 9 rare since those were gathered without buffs. Quality is seeming kinda questionable lol

[dawn warren]

It's way more noticeable on hunting than other professions, but timing any of them shows the small reductions

[maiden pawn]

Haven’t done hardly any hunting this phase because I’m so burnt out on it. So I’m still using my novice tool, walked up to a random raven 2 ft off the road last night and got an epic. Random af.

[red laurel]

I dont notice any speed difference what so ever. Its been 14 seconds for mining all way from novice to grandmaster and with speed gear, city boons and clothing. If you cant feel the difference its not working.

[obtuse sigil]

lol or your just too unlcuky

[novel surge]

Lol yeah im not sure. Right now at least im not sold on quality

[verbal herald]

what vendor sells Voidbreaker pickaxe recipe?

[obtuse sigil]

they are gonna revamp artisan stats so i wouldnt stick to it too much

[novel surge]

At least not enough to put money into consumables

True but dont think thats happening this cycle

[obtuse sigil]

yeah but since this is a placeholder even there is a bug to qulity dont think they would try to fix it

[atomic mural]

Thunder posted numbers #1457162915789410316 message which might line up with what you're seeing.

[novel surge]

Was thinking of it but im around 1600 quality atm. Someone mentioned 8k being max quality but I dont know in what world that is possible lol

[dapper sky]

Are there any guides/resources to power level crafting professions?

[strong reef]

quality before you put into processor or before you claim?

[novel surge]

Anything related to the items is always before

[novel surge]

Find cheapest/easiest recipe > Make until desired level

[strong reef]

so before putting into process

or before claiming from process

because i said before twice...

[novel surge]

Before you start the process

[strong reef]

thanks

[novel surge]

Because you are queueing the order with a specific set of stats at the start

[unique quiver]

Smacked like 1k-1.5k worth of wood yesterday and best drop I got was 5 purple 💀

[hardy marsh]

where do I find Pupfish? Seems most spots in the desert just drop Speckled Dace. Is Pupfish just really rare but fished out of the same spots?

I still have a novice fishing pole. Do I need apprentice pole? Edit: yes

[glass blaze]

Not one Rosethorn armor to be found on market and cloth/mag is also scarce. Is there a use in Tailoring if all you want is to make a set of mag armor? I might need to buy Graveplate but as it is now, it's 15g per uncommon.

[strong reef]

tailoring needed for shirt and some bags for some people are bis from tailoring

idk the gear

[glass blaze]

The shirts are good.

[glass blaze]

I'm in full radiant but I have initiate boots. Someone make boots, i have not seen any for MAG WIS caster type stats on my server at any level except for rare cases. Get rich as a shoe salesman.

[lofty jackal]

Where can i find spindlevine?

[novel surge]

all but anvils I believe

[lofty jackal]

ah okay, i was wondering because i only found one so far lol

[clear tree]

If i equip a mining bag that has gathering quality, will it effect the stuff i get from lumber/fishing/herbing also?

[strong reef]

it should specify

mining bag gives mining qual

[strong reef]

hm weirdge

check ur character sheet

press C go to artisan tab and check the gathering dropdowns

could just be a tooltip bug

[clear tree]

yup, nothing extra under my mining stat

[strong reef]

what about this

[clear tree]

maybe this one is weird then because my lumberjacking bag does specify lumberjacking quality

[strong reef]

i have 75 because of guild

[strong reef]

un equip the bag and see if it changes from that base gathering qual

from the 192

[clear tree]

kk gonna take a minute cause its got a lot of material in it lol

[strong reef]

hahah

[clear tree]

it did in fact change the base gathering quality

[strong reef]

what bag is that? that gives qual to everything

cwasi

[strong reef]

that def feels like a bug lol

every other bag in tailoring specifies the type of stat and resource it boosts

funnyy find tho

[clear tree]

Yup, even the journeyman goes back to mining quality specifically

Okay second question then, what does the crafting quality stat do? Is it just to use lower tier mats and get higher quality items?

[strong reef]

quality increases the stats of the item

for CRAFTING

for quality in processing it has a chance of upgrading a small portion of the mats to a higher rarity

[clear tree]

Oh so 2 crafted purple items can have different stats because of the quality?

[strong reef]

yes

typically crafters are going to use an elixir of that crafting for higher quality, food too i think scrolls are a thing too

so if youre going to get something crafted by a friend u should also get an elixir to have them do it with higher stats

idk the numbers or maths behind it all

but its not an rng increase it just is an increase

[clear tree]

Okay and it has nothing to do with the mat rarities, just the stats

[strong reef]

mat rarities determine the item rarity

quality could push it over to the next rarity if u have enough qual but i could be wrong about that.

because if you look at ashes codex you see items within their rarities have a range of the stats on them

i havent been crafting, ive just been a process/gatherer right now

[clear tree]

yeah same, but im starting to look at radiant gear so i figured i should know how these things work lol