alpha-two-artisan-chat

[radiant ingot]

Oh I thought you were having a diff problem. If it’s fine now then nvm

[sacred chasm]

Apparently it takes you to the level point, you certify, then one more levels you into apprentice. I still don't see how to craft the apprentice tools tho. Do you have to be apprentice weaponsmith ?

[radiant ingot]

Yes, for pickaxe and 2 others

Apprentice

For apprentice tier tools

Can pay around 1g for it outright from a crafter or can give them mats for discount

[north arrow]

when it comes to Jewler crafting i can only make cindertouch at the station but when i search my recipes is shows stillglade is one basic and one a recipe i need to find?

[open dock]

Do I have to be apprentice in these skills to use the scrolls? Or just lvl 10 since it says adept?

[strong sedge]

Question about animal husbandry - does the rarity of the tamed animal increase the speed of the mount you obtain or is it the same?

[atomic mural]

If you didn't figure it out already you need to buy a certificate with scripts. To start with you'll probably run commission boards to make them or buy them off the market. Then you can run from x to y. It usually involves a home of some sort due to storage but I think mostly it will be whichever route is profitable. This phase with so many people around it will be interesting to hear how the financial side pays off. More players running crates. More players hunting them.

[atomic mural]

Mount speed you can see in P menu and no difference in color for that. The rarity is for LW atm but could change in the future. It does help with BOBs tho

[north arrow]

is higher level scribe a useful profession\ to invest into?

[real dune]

Are all skills decent for making money or are some significantly better?

[open dock]

I think so

[open dock]

If you're willing to dedicate a lot of time and effort to a crafting skill, they all can be good money makers. I'd suggest staying away from Leatherworking as a new player tho. Carcasses are very hard to come by right now.

[potent hatch]

alrighty got some questions... Im in Anvils... i seem to have gotten 0 tend and nothing but copper ore.... for me to lvl crafting i need tend and the only way ive gotten it is by breaking down my basalt... is this a issue or a known issue?

nm... seems that tend is in granite

[atomic mural]

Either way works - when I've got extra coin I like a little sand casino 😉

[mild lagoon]

what is the default village?

[cloud widget]

sand casino?

[rugged iris]

Does anytone know where salt water fishing spawns are? im in the middle of the ocean and there are no birds indicating any fishing spots

[atomic mural]

Convert Basalt or Granite (couple others) into Sand at Metalworking bench - chance to roll some extra loots like Tendonite, Zinc, Copper, Coal or neither

[cloud widget]

ahh yes

i have a lot of useless sand

[rugged iris]

does anyone know where to salt water fish I cant find any fishing nodes in the ocean

[sacred chasm]

Since processing experience scrolls only last 5 minutes, do you read it before you start the craft, or before you claim them from the stations ?

[modest wedge]

Before you process

[sacred chasm]

Thank you

[drifting gust]

I do kinda wish that people's alts could trade. Levelling professions and artisan stuff is slow enough that I don't see an extra need to keep crazy people from doing it

[cedar chasm]

do low level metal nodes even exist in anvils? 10 hours and havent even SEEN one

[sacred chasm]

Its definately making me focus my attention to one main tradeskill. I cant afford to do them all lol

[sacred chasm]

Negative. You get metal from granite and basalt

[drifting gust]

Yeah you get metal from stone nodes sometimes. Better than no metal nodes spawning because people refused to mine rock nodes

[cedar chasm]

like all metal? copper and tin?

[drifting gust]

Copper is in river lands rock nodes I think

[cedar chasm]

damn, so starting north really wasnt the play for a casual andy lol

[icy jasper]

What do people craft to powelevel weaponsmithing

[clear tree]

Is there a use for coal anymore?

[tropic grail]

How am i a level 20 miner but still level 9 weaponsmith XD, kinda funny wasting like 90 silver on processing minerals so i dont have money for weaponsmith then i have to sell the other mines XD

Some tips?

[mild lagoon]

what is the spoils?

[cloud widget]

guys where can i upgrade my crafting prof to next level

[maiden pawn]

Spoils = chance to proc extra material, so when chopping a tree to have an increased chance to get 6 instead of 5 when hitting an adult tree.

[drifting gust]

I believe it.can chain proc too, so you might end up getting seven or more, but I don't quite recall

[novel surge]

Was searching through but don't think I found it. Do we have info on apprentice recipes for non-weaponsmith skills? I hit 10 tailoring and can't find any info on the bags or shirts

Apparently old builds got recipes from journeyman tables but that feels counter intuitive

[hushed grove]

if im new and want to level hunting is it better to start at the anvils ?

[real dune]

Thanks. I started to go into tailoring and crafted a bunch of the basic bags that you can’t sell and thought i picked a terrible skill to start to level as I lost all my coins I put into it. Think I choice the wrong tailoring item to craft.

[chrome ravine]

Hiho!
I was hoping to get some directions on how to obtain a journeyman fishing pole...

OR if it's too far out of reach, an apprentice one.

[drifting gust]

tried to train a mount, lost the coinflip. I will never financially recover from this

[alpine mulch]

is there a shared storage between characters or guilds so i can have a gatherer a processer and a crafter character?

[solid basin]

Can anyone tell me if there is a difference in the amount of settlement resource i would get from taking an uncommon settlement commodity crate vs a common one? it shows me being able to receive 75 of the resource either way but i wasnt sure if that was bugged or not.

[runic fulcrum]

What do we do with Construction Supplies and what do we get as reward?

[silver vapor]

what town can i craft an apprentice mining pick at?

[mint barn]

Are harbors always going to have 50% tax?

[mint barn]

A guild can have a guild storage shared among guild members - characters do not have shared storage.

[alpine mulch]

thanks give me another reason to speedrun my guild

[reef cypress]

@fickle ravine would you know where to get the Voidbreak pick blueprint?

was told to talk to you about that, but you got DMs off

[lethal pendant]

What's best way to Level Metalworking from Lvl 4 to Lvl 10? Most cost-effective

[hollow sequoia]

How's the economy nowadays? Quit some time ago because crafting was ass

[faint marsh]

Can somebody tell me, how much the T2 (green) Ingrediants/Material from NPCs cost? (Base price without tax)

[ruby heath]

Hello new player , i am lost in what to do. I am reading a lot at the moment about the artisan professions but don't know where to start honestly. It just feels overwhelming.

[atomic mural]

Focus on L menu to learn about the game - you'll get lots of free stuff along the way

[dire pasture]

So, you can't mix rarities when processing to speed things up. Any common will cause everything to come out as common. So, yeah. Don't know if that's a bug, but making a heads up. I wasted all my uncommons. Thankfully I didn't use anything higher than uncommon.

[twin lodge]

Does anyone remember if when a lab is built if the vendor sells apprentice health and mana potions?

[novel surge]

I didn't play in the past but based on everything I can gleam online, that seems to be the case

Not sure why apprentice recipes are all locked behind journeyman benches but that seems to be how it is atm

[idle forge]

is there anything worth putting on the AH as a scribe

[twin lodge]

if you get apprentice gathering scroll I think people would probably pay for that, especially hunters

[modern sail]

What do you craft for weapon smithing for fastest xp to apprentice? Is it still copper maces?

[thick acorn]

can we please rename raw metal to copper ore, tin ore and so on so we can search ores without getting everything tin or copper in it name 😛

[maiden pawn]

Journeyman anything cannot be crafted until towns have elected mayors and they start building the infrastructure to support those stations then being built. It takes time. Contribute to towns buy orders to speed this process along and if your server has community support among mayors they may roadmap their plans to achieve this.

[solar bronze]

that's fucked up

I cannot get it xD

nvm I cleaned up my storage

[modern sail]

Thats alot of xp damn dude

How long was the processing time for it? 2hrs?

[weak void]

Does anyone know where to buy the basic apprentice recipe? like bag/shirt?

[novel surge]

Unfortunately this is the case for apprentice too

Seems like an awful system for it

[maiden pawn]

Apprentice can be crafted as soon as the settlements become villages.

[novel surge]

Only if you learn the recipes just from getting the certificate, like weaponsmithing

There's no way to get apprentice bags or shirt recipes atm for example until journeyman textile

At least I cant find any kind of information that states otherwise

[solar bronze]

yeah it was 2 or 2.5h

[plain wraith]

So I need a lot of money for leveling this stuff I see, is Crate running really the best I can do?

Also is there a resource I can use for pricing goods more in line with the whole market and not just local prices for comparison

[terse crystal]

Is there a fishing discord that keeps up with sport fishing spots?

[woeful bronze]

that would be managed in your servers specific discord if happening as each server has different spawns and thats if someone is weatching enough to track these and willing to share as remember the ocean is lawless so calling them out in public place screams pvp come kill us

[bronze tartan]

Can we PLEASE get some entry level tameables in the Anvils there is VERY little, ive found two in all my 3 days of playing

[bronze tartan]

PLEASE

[atomic mural]

Sent a DM re fishing

[near plaza]

its written adept in BBOB card, what does that mean, there is no adept lvl in animal husbandry ???

[solar bronze]

I think it means that you have to be at least lvl 10 to use it

[solar bronze]

^

[near plaza]

thxc

[glacial onyx]

Do apprentice bags recipe drop from anywhere at all?

[fiery ermine]

I see video where ppl buy it from npc, but i didnt found it right know...

[glacial onyx]

Im afraid of investing the whole tailoring progression chain just to find out its missing important recipe lol

[atomic mural]

I believe the stand alone Tailor Building needs to be built if you can't buy them already from the Tailor Foreman or Vendor. We had a discussion earlier and I'm going to check Bonfire Village in about 30 mins as I bought novice recipes from there earlier today.

[livid trail]

Is it still only 5 aprientice from novice?

[exotic jackal]

u prop watching old videos from phase 2 ? maybe . there the appr. bag where availible to buy, but i guess this wipe is diffrent

[wind lily]

What vendor sells the trainables? I haven't been able to find one yet.

[solar bronze]

Do you use the processing scrolls before processing or when you claim it?
And do they stack?

[atomic mural]

Processing at collection - scrolls you only ever have one active so it will remove whatever you are currently running eg 180m adv xp bonus

[solar bronze]

thanks!!

[fiery ermine]

Is the recipe of the Bag and the shirt for Tailoring apprentice available in the game? and if yes, where whe can find them?

[south cradle]

Bro why tag Steven and Margaret for that? Yes they are, they are sold by the textile mill vendors in settlements

[fiery ermine]

They are devs no? i ask from yesterday and no one reply in game chat, and also on #questions

[south cradle]

No, they're the CEO and the head of marketing.

[fiery ermine]

btw i check all the vendors of the 3 city, no one sell it, is that metter of time? need to upgrade city?

[south cradle]

The city needs to have the textile mill upgrade. Depending on your server, it may not exist yet.

[fiery ermine]

Ok ty

[atomic mural]

Why Lumber Mill - I was thinking Textile Mill

[south cradle]

Woops yeah I got confused a little, it's the textile mill. People in global chat on my server were talking about the lumber mill. Thanks for the correction!

[atomic mural]

All g - you said that first then change to Lumber and I was thinking is there a crate we need from Lumber Mill - game has many mechanics

[fiery ermine]

where i can check the level of the structure that i need?

This one?

[atomic mural]

when the Mayor starts building it will be one of the Empty Plots - get on your server discord and ask if they have a plan - you might be able to get a heads up on where to setup your Tailoring business

[cosmic vapor]

Anything in for Saguaro Cactus yet? I just hauled a metric ton back to Joeva for what seems like nothing... lmao

[rigid nova]

Tannery still the most hardest proffesion to exp? 800 pure carcases to lvl 10? (without scrolls)

[woven stone]

yup! Its absolute misery to level up

Plus, the lvl 10 apprentice stuff requires certain buildings that most settlements dont prioritize, and the tanning/hunting are usually buggiest of artisan skills

good luck!

[rigid nova]

And of course they fixed all profitable spots?

like frogs near new aela

or rams in anvil

[fading reef]

are there any crafting guides someone can point me to? ive checked all the stations and i dont know how to get started in anything

[rare bough]

I made this. Came out to 792 power total with elevated Copper. It looks like its better than some of the adept level gear. what do you guys think it would sell for?

[fading sequoia]

20s

[rare bough]

Definitely put close to that on processing alone. How is low tier crafting supposed to be solvent, or is it never meant to be?

[topaz canyon]

Anyone know if there is freshwater sport fishing in the desert?

[fading sequoia]

Right now it isnt. Common adept weapons are better and easy to get.

[rare bough]

Then the value for this would be as an item you can equip at level 1 to carry you through grinding from 7-10

[fading sequoia]

You get ok weapons from destinies that get you to 10 easily.

[stiff kite]

Voidbreaker pickaxe, where Does it drop?

[winter geode]

So for like armorsmithing, some items say they require a riverlands certificate and some say a tropics certificate. Can you get all of the certs or is this something that's going to force a specialization?

[mortal dawn]

To my understanding this just means it needs to be built in that biome but i havent tested it yet

[woven stone]

35-45s

Theres just not a huge market for initiate gear. Once someone hits lvl 10, an apprentice WS can make a default common axe with better stats for similar or cheaper

[regal smelt]

anyone know a good way to make money as a miner? ive been selling to vendor all my common and saving rare ores to sell to someone buying am I losing alot of money selling common tovendor? please help a fellow miner out 🙂

[sonic hedge]

Anyone knows where are the woodshop foremans ?

[mild lagoon]

Anyone know where the void pickaxe recepie drops? :/

[woven ledge]

Check your local markets and see if there's demand for the common ores. Other than that, go kill $#@& for glint like the rest of us. 😝

[radiant ingot]

Most of the byproducts from mining can be processed and sold on the marketplace for a worthwhile amount more if you have the patience to sell them. Keep your uncommon primary ores (like basalt/granite) around in case it can be used for buy orders to progress your node and gain citizen reputation.

[upper dirge]

WTF.. Why I need a one more carcass for a "taned grem skin" in this case... @ebon minnow please take a look at this. I think that the carcass should be remove from the equation..

[rigid nova]

Where is a better place to whine that 95% of 1-19 crafting are deadborn on this test? As always devs don't understand their own game. Nothing changed xD

[woven stone]

"Devs don't understand their own game"

Pleeaassseee, lmaoooo

ITS A TESTING ENVIRONMENT - Plus, half the damned things are half-baked(and stated as such by said developers), you just need to pay attention to their messaging more

1-19 is not dead on arrival

[rigid nova]

Wdym by "arrival"?

[rigid nova]

and you know what? Your take is wrong. Even year ago craft system was better with all problems with curves and 1-50 oriented stats. But now - it's just a joke. It took less 1 year to dev just to destroy everything they had in mid-level crafting xD

[mild lagoon]

Better do leveling up 10 to 20 with Novice equipment or apprentice? apprentice give you more xp?

[rigid nova]

1. you don't need lvl 20 till towns have no stations.
   2.if you are talking about crafting - cheapest one way to continue craft novice things. You will need just x3 more you spend before. With Commissions Scrolls it's extremely cheap
   lvl 10 was 40k crafting exp
   lvl 20 is + 120k

[mild lagoon]

I meant I have carpenter level 12 but i want to level up to 20

[woven stone]

Do the other tanned skin recipes require additional skins and carcasses? I know other professions do(to make wooden board, you need processed lumber + raw lumber)

[woven stone]

Agree to disagree

[upper dirge]

it is unnecessary IMO

[rigid nova]

How it could be unnecessary if you can't craft without them? 🤣

[rigid nova]

Agreement or disagreement never changes facts

[tiny thistle]

where in the turquise sea do you get starfish?

[woven stone]

Agreed

[upper dirge]

it is a kind of feedback and opinion, go to the start of the conversation stop be so cocky..

[rigid nova]

So... facts are

1. you can exclude ~95% of receipts from game and it would change nothing, but clear "P" lists from pointless items
2. year ago this items was a part of players experience, but now - they are not even close to be
3. crafters literally have a few things to do(by "do" I mean to play and have fun) ingame in crafting system till all towns get 20+ master and grandmaster storefront expansions and even more less of thier activity needed for other players to have an ingame progression.
4. All the things above were obvious before this test - but all changes are not fixing it, only making it worthless. New processing recipes are great example of brainless changes. Especially for tannery system - making leatherworking close to be impossible again. This system had a chance to work well for tannery when hunting gave more then 1 carcass, but now it's just a torture for players.

I don't think that argument like "oh they are testing" is valid here. Understanding of that this system initially wouldn't work well for game and players don't need any testing, only thinking and planning. Both of this actions was skipped by game designer who are responsible for this part of game.

[potent axle]

So I hit level 10 armoursmith and I’ve absolutely no idea how to get promoted because the guy in the starter town in the North of the map (Helms something) won’t promote me and just ignores my request. Any advice would be appreciated.

[woven stone]

report it in #1365478519441719377 and/or @ a community mod

[potent axle]

Are you answering me? Is it a bug?

[woven stone]

yes

[potent hatch]

so the cost of crafting to keep up with your level is still non existant with their "tweek to make it affordable"

[woven stone]

explain more

[potent hatch]

i must be doing this wrong im no where near adept crafting and ive blow all the money i have

[potent axle]

It’s cost me an estimated 8-10gp to hit apprentice in 3 production classes and 1 crafting if that helps, I assume if I was doing this in a low tax area my money would go significantly further.

I’ve made sure to use xp scrolls at all times.

[potent hatch]

ya i was using xp scrolls

so 8-10g

were looking more like lvl 15 to get that

[potent axle]

I’m almost 14 in my adventuring class, so seems about right

[potent hatch]

so by the time i can make adept im 1/2 through being done using it

seems logical

its better to just farm and then worry about crafting at the end

[potent axle]

Farming won’t pay as well as selling equipment i assume and my banks are stuffed with stuff I could have sold. I think I’ve been inefficient because I haven’t done crafting before

[potent hatch]

i understand being poor for crafters but this is beyond that... and gear selling isnt really useful till you hit adept or higher... cause anyone can craft the begining ones

sorry just venting now\

heard they helped with crafting by making things cheaper and no wood cost... and im not noticing the price

[fading reef]

i just got done buying a bunch of lower level gear. very necessary even at lower levels

[potent hatch]

i understand that @fading reef but you can make that also

you need 0 crafting proficiency to make low lvl gear so essentually you can make it your self

[sly agate]

So, here after nearly 6 month break, any changes to crafting system or is it still the placeholder?

[potent hatch]

personally i feel crafting needs alot of tweeking but others may tell you diffrent

[mild lagoon]

You can buy the recepie for this two in the woodshop? for capentry?

[upper orchid]

?

[radiant ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/sky-diver-sky-diving-back-flip-freefly-gif-8699842

[shell onyx]

not a fan of having to travel to different biomes just to craft different stat gear of the same tier

[real dune]

Anyone have a good method for leveling tailoring to level 10?

[twin lodge]

make novice chest pieces

[hoary drum]

when using a processing exp scroll, is the bonus exp determined at the start of the process or when you collect?

[woeful bronze]

from my testing you just have to have scroll buf active at the time you press start job

[hoary drum]

thankyou!

[alpine lynx]

Yeah pop it beforr you hit start

[pearl ivy]

any suggestions for boosting arcane engineering to apprentice? or is it just pick one recipe and make 100s of them...

[brisk vessel]

Start

[glacial onyx]

so some of the artisan equipment wants me to collect stupid amount of carcasses

are the artisan side of the game for machocist

[limber trail]

when jm station is open u can

[fast swan]

Whats the best and fastest way ro level up armorsmithing? Just mass produce feets?

[devout current]

Are bigger bags able to be crafted yet? i see nonone selling them

[atomic mural]

Textile Mill needs to be built in Towns

[woeful bronze]

feet or chest will do the job and same mats/xp ratio

[woeful bronze]

the craft recipe is in line with other crafts etc the issue is hunting output isnt in line with other gathering trades thats the broken part

[finite kestrel]

Are there any ways to make a profit from selling crafted or processed goods to NPCs currently? everything i've tried seems to be a gold loss and other than selling good items to other players im not seeing a good way to make a profit. Am i dumb?

[woeful bronze]

NPC sales wont be profitable, selling to players can have profit selling things that people want

[finite kestrel]

So a hard no on selling to NPCs

ty

[woeful bronze]

yeah npc selling is more for tossing junk for a small compensation rather then profit e.g i made 150 shields for leveling and npc vendored them to get rid them and get a small chunk money but still net loss

[finite kestrel]

yeah have been doing the same, just sinking a lot of gold into levelling stuff up and wondering if there's anything thats net positive

[hasty sigil]

Are there really only 8 shoalskipper spawns? interactive map has 8, been looking on the coast elsewhere abd havent seen any, surely there should be more huntable spawns

[woeful bronze]

no vendor net profit at any tier, novice crafts are a few things can player sell for profit but generally its a money sink to get to apprentice tier then more things are profitable selling to players or selling the service of being able to craft at that tier

[finite kestrel]

thanks for your help

[woeful bronze]

no problem

[mystic remnant]

Is it relly best way to lvl armorcrafting to 20 just spam novice waist armor?

[modest wedge]

If you're making a lot of armor etc for levelling crafting make some deconstruction kits via Arcane Engineering. Only requires 1 each of Copper, Western Larch & Granite (Colcothar, Turpentine, Granite Grinding Stone) and gives 6 charges. You get some mats back so don't have to buy as many Shield's Final Touches for example as you get 1 back each time so can just buy 20 and keep deconstructing them. You also get mats for Tempering Kits which you can also use Arcane Engineering to make if you want to level that too.

[mystic remnant]

Thanks for a tip

[idle forge]

Are scribe recipes just a random drop or is there an area i can farm specific ones

[slim nova]

what is a good profession for gold making 😄

[stiff kite]

Is treasure maps bugged? can´t find the dig spot, i have looked on a lot of places! 😄

[digital mortar]

Anyone know where 2 get the 2 crate mules from

[woven ledge]

Is that...underground diving? Void diving? 😆

[woven ledge]

I had read that it's just leatherworking/tanning/type processing that's ridiculously high in mat costs compared to other artisan types.

[woven ledge]

Your mom? 😛

[elder condor]

10s for 62xp (Rams) vs 32copper and 68xp (grems) Who designed this crappy crafting system?

poor starting area noobs wanting to farm grems are not going to have any when apprentice tanners still hunt grems to journeyman, like they have for all the other phases

Looks like they might want us to do tanned t1 hides next rather than t2, which is just an odd choice.

yeah 8copper for hidecure for 81 xp (tanned grem hide)

[icy iron]

Question, at apprentice fishing level, what kind of lure do you use usually?

[woeful bronze]

the lures are purely for sport fishing they arent needing for the non sport variation besides that generally you want to use the highest one (looking at the prices) that you can afford to do

[icy iron]

Thanks for the answer! And yes i'm talking about sport fishing (specifically in fresh water).
The question comes mostly because of the "return of investment" i mean the basic lure (costs 6 silver + taxes) gives only small walleye that sells for around 40 silver while for example the second tier goes for around 19 silver + taxes each but allows to catch also catfish and pike that sell for more (catfish around 80 silver iirc).
Issue is with the 2nd tier lure i always get the walleye and then earn less per run 😂
So I was wondering if i'm just unlucky 😂

[woeful bronze]

theres 2 lures to each tier (if you wanna call it teairs) the lower one is cheaper but more consistant money for guarenteeing the low fish but is as youve said know profit range, the higher one costs a bit more and has rng chance of giving bigger fish for higher profit so its kinda risk vs reward choice between them but short answer your just unlucky getting the walleye instead the higher fish

[icy iron]

Thanks!

[runic mica]

where the tool belt crafted from, anyone know?

[grizzled anchor]

Hey any idea where to get moonstrider mule?

[woeful bronze]

recipe will require certain town buildings to be built before they are sold

[runic mica]

oooh

does it need a smithy?

[woeful bronze]

i think belts are textiles (tailoring) i believe to craft

well the artisan belts are

[grizzled anchor]

Belts are armorsmithing

[fallow marsh]

What is up with crafting stations and not being usable for long period of times?

[vagrant dawn]

What would ya'll price a stack of common lettuce?

[pearl ivy]

is there a commissions board, specific to crafting/gathering?

[atomic mural]

Gathering yes - crafting no. Grab all the gathering ones you can and save up completing them till you have a bunch. Pop a 5min Adventure XP bonus scroll and collect them all

[radiant ingot]

Ultimate satisfaction right there

[pearl ivy]

see. i thought there was.. and then i couldn't find it again.

and thats good to know i can use an adv xp scroll right before turn in

[atomic mural]

Maybe you're thinking of the Destinies quests in the L menu?

[pearl ivy]

noo. i mean i thought i had found a commissions board that was for 'crafting'.. version the standard commissions board.

bc i had a bunch of commissions for just gathering.. and then i went to go try to find it again.. and i couldn't. so then i thought maybe i was delulu

[woeful bronze]

i believe ive heard mention that a crafting board was a want but hasnt been added yet so far theirs mayor commissions (town buffs), and then the kill mobs board, gathering board and the explore certain area board

[atomic mural]

Yeah I suppose some of the Requistions are crafting of sorts - like farming or metalworking or alchemy for certain turn ins - you can see them in the N menu @pearl ivy

[woeful bronze]

i do see what your saying but i remember way back (maybe im just remembering wrong) there was talks that theres be 4 commission board and we have the other 3 and 3rd was meant to be craft 2nd division cape kinda hand ins but isnt something thats ever been added yet

[nocturne acorn]

anyone know where to get moonstriders?

[wild fern]

anybody know why I cant upgrade my 4th artisan gathering to apprentice? I click promote on Mining and nothing happens, I hit promote on fishing and nothing happens. Im lvl 10 locked at xp gain

[novel bloom]

Any tips for leveling weaponcrafting quickly/efficiently? Gotta craft me one of these ASAP

[atomic mural]

Till your town gets a stand alone Smithy there won't be such a rush

[novel surge]

How do we go about getting apprentice scribe xp scroll recipes?

Saw some posted but no table is up yet so I assumed it is from elsewhere

[pearl crater]

Pretty critical bug to be aware of (I've reported it but more of an FYI here):

Consuming scrolls of bonus xp (I used Commissions Scroll of Processing XP) while having a crafting station UI open (I had Animal Husbandry open) will instead remove the entire stack of scrolls from your inventory, essentially voiding them.

[vapid kraken]

does wayward sword cap out at rare? i have all heroic mats for it but it still just shows up as rare when i go to craft it

[south cradle]

That's most likely because of the essences being required as quality ingredient. They're supposed to be a basic ingredient so they won't affect the crafting rarity, but the recipe seems to be bugged.

[vapid kraken]

Makes sense thanks!

[simple hamlet]

Quick question. When it comes to leveling armor smithing should I be selling all the common mats and using greens/blues/purples for leveling or hold onto those for later and use white mats for leveling?

[woeful bronze]

personal choice, i level with white (and occasionally greens) for leveling and hold the rest for when crafting gear for use or to sell to players but you can sell mats at all tiers if you would like as other crafters will by to level or craft with as well

[simple hamlet]

Do you get more xp for crafting higher tier items?

[woeful bronze]

i havent tested this phase so cont confirm on that, i know gatherint the rarity gained does but dont know on crafting but with the higher rarities being harder to stack quantity i would level with it

[simple hamlet]

I'm hopping on right now and I'll let you know

[idle forge]

i got some heroic apprentice gathering scrolls made any idea how much to sell em for?

[hexed lava]

DO you craft the apprentice sickle at a tier 2 herbalism NPC? and if so, where is there one located on Lyneth server? i cant get any information about this in game

i've spent 2 days trying to find this information. i've herbed so much i can almost go Journeymen but i still can't herb Apprentice herbs..

[atomic mural]

WS makes it at their station, needs stuff from MW station as well. Search in WS for recipe

[ancient violet]

Fast way to level leatherwork?

[atomic mural]

Let someone else do it 😉

But probably something with gremskins

[novel surge]

You do not get more xp for using higher quality mats sadly

So crafting should be leveled with just white garbage

[simple hamlet]

just processed basalt into sand. the white got me 96xp and the green got me 134xp, so I'm assuming you will get more xp for crafting higher tier items

made zinc fragments, white gave me 96xp and green gave me 134xp

[woeful bronze]

so green over white is viable for leveling but the blue or higher i peronally will keep for craftd of things to actuallu use given higher rarities are harder to get in bulk

[woeful bronze]

chest piece spam seems to be the best for the armor trades but leather working is bit harder as hunting imo is lacking in amount of resources you can get vs the herbs or metals for other armor weights

[simple hamlet]

I'm gonna test it for armor smith belts as well and let you know

a white 2nd sword division belt gave 253xp and a green one gave 253xp, so for processing the materials it looks like green is better, but for actually crafting it'll be like @novel surge said and craft with white items

[glass blaze]

Looking to get Baby Cow. I don't see any Agricultural Supply Vendors or anyone else who might sell this or the baby chickens.

[simple hamlet]

then with how much white items you get from gathering you'll be able to craft a lot more than with the green items

[woven stone]

Just necroing this conversation, but processing gains bonus so from rarer crafts, Crafting does not(from my experience)

[simple hamlet]

yeah crafting doesn't give more exp, so I'm just going to using all common stuff and saving blues and above to craft the gear I'm going to be wearing

[earnest storm]

May I ask how often fishing activities occur?

[restive sinew]

spent 25g on the wrong boat

i just wanted to fish

everyone said it was 25g

[tiny thistle]

Where do you get the right boat?

I almost bought the one for 25g

[earnest storm]

Isn't it that one?

It can be used for both fishing and carrying goods, but two fish boxes should be placed instead of fish guns

[wanton sinew]

Don't you lose the boat and have to buy again if it gets broken?

seems like a bad deal

[earnest storm]

We were going to make a fishing boat together and go out to sea for fishing, but now we haven't even found any freshwater fish

[forest garnet]

Si is the armorsmithing expansion a seperate building the city needS?

city just got smithy but cant buy belt recipes yet even though im 20 AS

[surreal linden]

so to do armorsmithing, I'm assuming I need to max mining and that, then I need to apprentice metalworking, lumberjacking, stonemasonry?

[torn axle]

Is it just me, or does some of this early crafting / hunting needs an overhaul?

I just want to craft some basic starter waist light armor for example. But it requires Raven or Grem skin - which i have searched for hours now. It shouldnt be this depressing to craft a lvl 1 light armor.

[topaz mist]

Has anyone been able to find alchemy recipies? I'm lvl 17 and almost JM alchemy, but haven't found any additional recipies beyond what you're given for apprentice

[earnest storm]

May I ask if 25g of fishing boat materials will affect the quality?

[atomic mural]

You need the Laboratory Building to be built in a Village

[topaz mist]

So there is no drops like other skills then?

[atomic mural]

no idea, you'd have to dig around the P menu or the Ashes Codes

[quasi plaza]

anybody know if the apprentice bag recipes are in the game?

[atomic mural]

Need Textile Mill Building in Village

[modest wedge]

Carpentry & Leatherworking can also make them so for example on Lotharia since Joeva has the Woodshop levelled you can make apprentice bags via that

[atomic mural]

Does Smithy unlock some as well? or Ag Supply? Shol feels so far behind EU

[modest wedge]

Nope only proffs that can make bags are Tailoring, Carpentry & Leatherworking but you will need the Building for the recipes

[atomic mural]

Thanks for that info

[quasi plaza]

ok ty

[earnest storm]

Does your bait also need to be taxed at 50%?

[cosmic vapor]

Ive submitted a milling job and I can't claim it. My bags are completely empty - any idea how to resolve this?

[modest wedge]

Can you not clear space in Storage?

If not you'll need bigger bags

[cosmic vapor]

I havent sent anything to the warehouse ever - what options are there for bigger bags?

[modest wedge]

I think apprentice Lumberjacking bags will get you there since they have an extra slot. Did you make it in a town or the starter area?

[cosmic vapor]

Im in Joeva

[modest wedge]

You should be able to send it to storage then provided there's space. Is yours full?

[cosmic vapor]

I looked for Apprentice bags when I went to the Farm the other day, all I saw was the novice satchels still.

My storage is full, yes. You can send things from tradeskill tables directly to your storage?

Ive only seen inventory and warehouse and I assumed the warehouse was something different

[modest wedge]

Yes but you need space

[cosmic vapor]

Ok, looks like I got a major problem to sort out today - thanks for the suggestion

[cosmic vapor]

Got it sorted out - thanks again, appreciate the guidance

[autumn wharf]

Hi, does anyone did calculations on storage types?
It seems general fits more ores/stones then the mining type.
Is it true for other types as well?
Or there is some cases when specialize one provide more capacity ?

[modest wedge]

As far as I'm aware the specialized types of storage have been bugged ever since Alpha started so you're better off just selecting General

[restive sinew]

please people in charge allow us to return the Caravel for a Corsair

[unreal imp]

Guys, i have a question, how do i make a blue crate? do rarity material actually make a "blue" crate, or is price just updated dependng on rarity you put inside and is still a "gray" crate

[idle forge]

are making treasure maps bugged or am i doing something wrong

[topaz mist]

Is something going on with getting Docile wolves? I can sitin a spot killing them for an hour+ and not get a single one to pop

[twin lodge]

How much copper do you think I get for mining this?

[alpine lynx]

Rare materials

And cert

It has to be all of it

[marsh hull]

Is there a place I can look for like a general guide on crafting etc?
I feel like Im doing something incredibly wrong.
Mining is level 20, all with a novice pickaxe, and Im always low in Silver to buy stuff, or craft more.
Am a bit lost here

[thick ocean]

How can I get this ? Where do I find this mount

[digital mortar]

Oh they are ingame thn.

[restive sinew]

does anyone know if you can buy a ship from one harbor master and buy a different one from another

i accidentally purchased the caravel thinking it was for fishing and its not, am i completely screwed?

or can i try to buy a corsair from another harbor

[uncut cliff]

Buy ship from harbor

[noble stirrup]

how do i get these recipes ?

[silk meteor]

where do you talk to the guy about metalworker upgrade?

[twin lodge]

Textile mill vendor sells them, town needs to build it first, maybe need to upgrade it as well not sure

[delicate zenith]

whats the benefit you get leveling up like for example hunting between each upgrade like 11-12 om hunting does that make any difference or not until i get to journeyman

[faint marsh]

The logic behind that does not make any sense. Towns get all Apprentice Shirts but not the vendors with the apprentice recipes. They need to upgrade to Journeyman, built the specific building on Journeyman so we get access to the Apprentice recipe. Totally free of logic

[dapper sky]

Can you level up fishing to apprentice? If so, do I speak to someone at the harbor?

[vapid kraken]

i think you can talk to the cook foreman or whatever it's called

[marsh hull]

Just lost about 80s because the line on my fish snapped 3 times, BECAUSE THE FISH SOMEHOW TELEPORTS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FUCKIGN MAP

[atomic mural]

please add to https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1450147487368220702

[unreal surge]

Someone can tell me where i can farm apprentice bags recipes thx ?

[atomic mural]

#alpha-two-artisan-chat message convo last night for you

[magic forum]

anyone having trouble crafting a map? The craft button just flickers and never crafts it.

This is all it does

[wild fern]

Why cant I upgrade my mining artisan? Im lvl 10 but the npc does nothing when I click promote

[glass blaze]

Does anyone know which stats are in demand? I'm making Apprentice food. There's a lot of variety in stats to choose.

[glass blaze]

It seems likely there is no artisan yet. We can't get Journeyman tools so there are some limitations they are not letting us advance as much.

[wild fern]

what? There are already other people at Apprentice mining and there are apprentice pickaxes. The stonemason NPC in bonfire doesnt let me upgrade

[glass blaze]

I didn't understand your question before. If you are a level 10 'Miner' then it should promote.

[wild fern]

I know lol but it does not. I click promote and nothing happens

[tight sluice]

It "should" be working, some people have had to go down to the riverlands to do it though, Anvil artisan promoting is iffy

[static plover]

Not sure if this is the correct channel, if not I am sorry 🙂 I was wondering were the Recipe of the Apprentice Mining Bag that the Tailor can craft can be retrieved? I know, that the Carpenter can do it already but since it would provide Gathering Quality instead of Speed it would be the better Bag.

[atomic mural]

You might be waiting on Textile Mill for all of the recipes - just gotta wait for a Mayor to build one on your server

[near falcon]

How do we get the Fishing boat for 17g? I cannot see it at the harbor vendor

[atomic mural]

you need to show the vendor that you have 25g but don't buy that one - also fyi you die at sea the boat is gone

[near falcon]

I had 30g at vendor though

[atomic mural]

hmmm - all the parts?

[near falcon]

Didnt have the hull on me. is that needed also to show?

[atomic mural]

and also server down in 9mins

[frosty bronze]

had the same behavior while crafting a spellbook... it eventually worked after moving in a little closer, not sure if it was related

[next plank]

hello, what do you mean by this??

[warm sphinx]

horses are the easiest to find and get i think

I dont think you can fail hunting a horse you get a trainable every time however you probably wont make money

[cursive sphinx]

have you already 5 other artisan proffesions leveld up? We can only have 5 in total.

[warm sphinx]

oh anvils my bad..yeah no clue 😂

[warm sphinx]

Is this just for crafting or all gathering and process too?

[cursive sphinx]

For everything.

You can never be self sufficient on one character. need alts for supplies

[warm sphinx]

Dang

Thats cool

[cursive sphinx]

Yes, unless your guild allows 2 character in. Then guild storage cn be used to transfer

[edgy locust]

the "basic" ingredients are only available from npc vendors right?

[atomic mural]

Look in the P menu tool tips for the recipe you are making. What's the current thing you're looking for?

[cedar moat]

how much would common braidwood sell for now?

[edgy locust]

stuff like books final touches, glowroot grind, water, stuff like that

[atomic mural]

Yeah Scribe/Alch vendor will sell at starter zone plus 2 of those at the General Vendor in a Village. I think the Books can only come from the starter zone till the specific building is built in a Village.

[edgy locust]

Ohh okok, I was looking for the specific vendors in the village im in but didn't realize there was a general vendor too

thank you!

[versed mica]

how does sport fishing work?

[mental maple]

anyone done a treasure map yet ? is the map they give you supposed to reflect the outline of something in the circle ?

[ebon hamlet]

Bump. This doesn’t seem right that other people get access to apprentice recipes in bonfire but tailors don’t

[marsh hull]

Soo question. I know I can have 5 artisans at apprentice, but can I level all 5 of them to the highest rank too?
Or do I only have 5 upgrades available?

[rocky steppe]

we can have 5 apprentice 4 journeyman -https://ashescodex.com/artisan/profession-planner

[woeful bronze]

the image yes is meant to draw some shapes and an X to show the treasues location but seems this one bugged out, there should be a circle on the map for the rough area of it if you wanna go there and try and spot the thing without the image to help but can be hard sometimes

[woeful bronze]

bor sure on your server or the upgrades on that server but the tailoring, leatherowrking and woodworking bag recipes are dependant on what town as the upgrade building for that crafting type but the starting areas (which i believe bonfire is) will only ever have novice recipes not the apprentice ones

[mental maple]

yeah ok ty. the others i did were fine. ty for reply

[woeful bronze]

All good, as soon as you start the quest the mound is spawned so yeah can use main map and just search the area. kills the fun and cn be hard but only current workaround i know

[mental maple]

i found at night the area was glowing red.

found all of them

[earnest storm]

Why haven't I found any fishing activities at sea?

[earnest storm]

I made a boat with 25 gold coins, and when it came ashore, it disappeared ？？？？

[pseudo elk]

How are people planning their professions? I would have thought you could be a Grandmaster Gatherer, Processor, and Crafter (1 each). Do people tend to keep GM for Crafting? Or does GM for Gathering make sense?

[thick acorn]

gathering quality doesnt seem to have much effect 🙁

[strong hamlet]

how do I repair gathering tools? I go to the station where I can craft a replacement but don't see a repair option anywhere

[radiant ingot]

vendor, bottom left

[thorny raven]

what does enchanting do

[runic mica]

who drops or who sells the apprentice mining mattock recipe?

[cunning granite]

Anyone know what's required for the vendor to sell journeyman carpenter bag recipes?

[woeful bronze]

slightly bumps up stat numbers on the item for each enchanting tier but as tiers go up it has higher chance of failure and can eventually risk losing the item completly at higher tier failure

[woeful bronze]

need a master rank bench as the recipes follow one tier behind the bench

[cunning granite]

Awesome bud, thank you!

[thorny raven]

lame balls thank u very much

[buoyant jungle]

Bought some heroic zinc on market from random players and 60 or so of it will not work at the smithy or stack, anyone know of fixes or what caused this, it was all from random people

[radiant ingot]

i was having similar issues trying to use basalt at an npc, but i was trying to exchange buy orders and it wouldn't put all the mats in correctly, or wouldn't turn it in after pressing exchange. might be related, i recall others saying they were having npc interaction problems when it comes to having to put mats into a menu

[surreal linden]

anybody know where the rootforged recipes drop?

trying to get that going but I can't seem to figure that out

[cedar moat]

how much should i sell dried boards? prices are all over the place

[wild fern]

I really dont see crafting being even worth it in this game to be honest. The name of the game is Levels. A lvl 25 will shit on a geared 1-20. Ive spent days getting mats to craft a heroic Adept bow when I could have just been lvling and gotten a white drop which is so much better. The crafted gear will never matter until 50 and by then its whatever

[mild lagoon]

Hi what kind of artisan skills goes well with cooking?

[keen creek]

does the relic buff give more quality rating if you are citizen of the node?

[errant swallow]

hey guys wanted to ask is there a place to hunt moonstrider or is it optainable some other way ?

[wild fern]

you buy them from npcs

[errant swallow]

which npc ? cause i know the daystrider is from herbalism vendor but haven't seen moonstrider

[wild fern]

npc in Miraleth next to the AH, Animal Husbandry. Oh it also depends on what server youre on

[errant swallow]

im on tenok

[errant swallow]

probably need agriculture supply in town huh

[wild fern]

look for a settlement with Agricultural supplies as the service provided

[wild fern]

yeah

[errant swallow]

well that sucks my server got really fucked by the xp stops we had only 2 towns 😄

we a bit behind xD

[glass blaze]

I'm curious what people are pricing their tier 2 food at. Didn't mean that for you specifically.

[torpid jackal]

hello guys

[surreal linden]

anybody know where the rootforged recipes drop?

[torpid jackal]

Do you know where i can find apprentice recipes for tailorer? ( apprentice leatherworker's shirt , herbalist shirt etc)
I cannot find any droplist

[ionic charm]

i would like to know shirts and bags as well however im wondering if the journeyman tailor vendors have em.. which on shol nobody has done yet

[novel surge]

That is correct unfortunately

Tailoring was the first thing I rushed to 10 and was very sad to find that out

[atomic mural]

Go look in Mira and Joeva for recipes - some bags are being advertised so there are some recipes available in those buildings but the majority will come when the Textile Mill is built

[plush vine]

Hi, if im a citizen in Jeova, how much more expensive (if at all) is it going to be for me to craft in for example Halcyon?
Would it be just better for me to move citizenship somewhere else in that case?

[novel surge]

They aren't dropped recipes atm. Assuming you're Lyneth at least, bags are coming from Mira because of the carpentry station. bags can be made by leatherworking, carpentry, and tailoring

[novel surge]

Taxes and such are based on the town itself. I believe citizenship immediately is for the extra storage and the boons at the start

[plush vine]

praise the sun, goodbye to the lag city, welcome freedom

[novel surge]

Yeah I really wish I could leave Joeva. But textile mill is being built there rn

[torpid jackal]

where you can drop these recipes ?

i cannot no find droplist

[calm depot]

Is there a recipe for rations or can you only buy them atm it shows as you can make them at novice but they don't show up at tables

[woeful bronze]

should be in the cooking table

[lone glacier]

Do guilds start with guild storage, or is it an unlock? I don't see any tabs.

[woeful bronze]

guild leader needs open a storage, i was open first guild tab in main town free

[calm depot]

Maybe its because we are in anvils it doesn't work

[woeful bronze]

i have heard a bunch recipes having regional item substitutions that arent avaliable but this is first not having any recipe ive heard but yeah could be a thing

[lone glacier]

How does the GM open storage? Need to buy something somewhere?

[woeful bronze]

it displays as needing some ticket thing but when i clicked to buy tab (more to work out what the ticket was) it gave the tab so thats what my guild been working with

[lone glacier]

Weird, I dont see any option to buy tab, im the GM. Bugged?

[tardy ginkgo]

Can you tell me where is hunter apprentice trainer? on prev alpha it was cookstation but now i cant find him

[woeful bronze]

mine didnt have the current numb/max numb at the bottom mine showed 0/1 at the time so i would say theres desync and its not loading correctly atm and all servers are reporting stability issues atm so might be a try again later thing and it will work

[lone glacier]

Gotcha, ty!

[woeful bronze]

which area are you in?

[woeful bronze]

all good, sorry i couldnt help more

[tardy ginkgo]

aela

[woeful bronze]

idk what server your on is any town has cookhouse for that otherwise should be npc at avens end that can promote for you

[novel surge]

There is no droplist but you can check through the profession pages to see what items they have. Anything that is highlighted or "already known" will be unlocked as soon as you have the tier of crafting for it

Anything else is from a vendor or a drop. We just happen to know that the bags/shirts/tools are from the journeyman vendors even though they are apprentice recipes

[ionic charm]

where is the guy that gets me apprentice hunting?

[hexed bay]

Where do you get the scroll of inteligence recipe

[tardy dawn]

Any fishing groups/discord?

[shut inlet]

hey im trying to upgrade my weaveing cert im lvl 10 but it wont let me at the fashion specialist

[atomic mural]

how many apprentice skills you already got?

[shut inlet]

2 in processing 3 in gathering

[atomic mural]

Full House sir no more skills

[shut inlet]

o

[atomic mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304126769724522566/1313804778270101564/aoc-professions-visual.png?ex=6949bd4c&is=69486bcc&hm=dc7148be65de43b6fbc69c90171653e0ce600012be10a5bcde43fb595c0ebc63 explains it visually

@waxen shuttle can you pin this or not able as its not offical?

[shut inlet]

i guess my tree cutting days are over

[atomic mural]

Always alts but you'll need your guildmates to help transfer items around

[desert solar]

so how many alts do i gotta make to get them all

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-the-hell-counting-gif-12730858

[desert solar]

i got used to useing chatgpt LOL

[raw linden]

each to what level?

cause if to apprentice 5

if to JM youll need 6

if to Master youll need 8

if to GM you need 11

this is characters total not alts

[desert solar]

is it even worth it to go beyond JM in this alpha ? isnt the highest gear radint atm?

[raw linden]

sport fishing power increases by 10 per level so at least for fishing its worth to go to 50

i imagine there are things like that for other professions though

[desert solar]

so its better for a crafter to get 4jm and 1 apprentice

[raw linden]

my crafter alt is doing JM in weaponsmithing armorsmithing carpentry and metalworking and then apprentice lumbermilling

[desert solar]

i like you allready

[raw linden]

might swap out armorsmithing for stoneworking but idk yet we shall see

[atomic mural]

Multiple accounts / rigs @raw linden ?

[desert solar]

idk i got weapon to apprentice then demoted it because either u make pickaxes or its not worth it

[raw linden]

nah im just retired and therefore get to play a lot so i like to do everything crafting related and fish but i dont really do other gathering

[solar barn]

[desert solar]

tbh armorsmith and weaponsmith are in a tough spot because the crafting is sooo costly and the gear u make drops from mobs

[raw linden]

yeah thats why i fish in the meantime but ill be waiting for the day when HumbleSmith can make stuff for people xD

[atomic mural]

Yeah just curious how people do it all. I'm kinda content with the freshwater sports fishing, semi afk fishing and some gathering. Making enough gold to buy stuff without having to stand in a corner somewhere

[solar barn]

I mean yes, but you can theoretically mass craft epic gear as long as you can afford the resource cost, whereas like... how often does epic gear drop from mobs?

[desert solar]

yeah im not making a 140 ingot weapon for 40 silver lol

[raw linden]

gahtering tools are where its at for carpentry and weaponsmithing

[desert solar]

true but its only goood for radint because adept and initite are just a phase where radint is max gear

idk how is the plan to fix armorsmith and weapon but hope its good

[raw linden]

me too

[solar barn]

plenty of people still buy apprentice gear

[raw linden]

i also just made a dude on Pelune instead of Shol so i can dodge stupid queue times when thats happening ima be a hunter and animal husbandry guy on there

[desert solar]

idk if its crafted because the same apprentice gear drops from mobs 10 to 19

[solar barn]

or even higher quality initiate, for alt characters

[desert solar]

this might be good because initite is ALOT cheeper to make

[raw linden]

theres almost nothing at novice tier worth buying outside of xp scrolls at apprentice most things can be sold for profit if not net 0

[desert solar]

scribe is 2 easy hope they nerf it because every craft just needs 1 item ......

[solar barn]

people will 100% spend money to avoid the grind time, or to speed up their TTK so they can get exp quicker

[desert solar]

scribe scrolls xp potions gear form mobs u dont need to craft unles high tier radint for post-endgame

[raw linden]

true but i mean i made a fighter and within 20 minutes before server went down i had full novice armor from quests the wanderer longbow and mukmaws greatsword its not hard to get gear from 1-10 so the novice crafting is not actually saving any time, at 10-25 yeah it saves time but the issue i see is that novice tier is still useless in the game they havent figured out early game crafting yet to make it feel worth doing outside of a grind to apprentice

[desert solar]

i mean i dont understand why every craft is ez except the most important ones which are armorsmith and weaponsmith
u can make rings for just 5 ingots adpet

[atomic mural]

I think some of the novice grind could be mats needed for the apprentice grind. So all those things you buy from the vendors you make yourself. You still need the skill up to progress but you aren't making a ton of junk that just gets tossed

[raw linden]

in my opinion they coule fix the weapon and armorsmithing grind by making it so that in order to repair weapons and armor you had to have a appropriatly high weapon or armorsmithing level and make repairing give marginal xp toward it

and maybe make it cost 1 or 2 copper frags or whatever

instead of the gold cost

[desert solar]

yeah thats interesting imagine ppl looking for a dwarf to repair their gear LOL

[raw linden]

i agree mostly yeah

[bold compass]

so whats the consensus about fresh water fishing and lures? over time is it worthwhile to use the better and more expensive lures or just better to make the stable income off of the lowest tier?

[raw linden]

if your purchasing lures at a harbor for freshwater spoon lure is best value if your at a city with a sport fishing vendor so you dodge those 50 percent taxes the crank becomes worthwile since at minimum you break even with a chance at medium fish but for best gaurenteed profit i still think spoon is best

@bold compass

[lone glacier]

Anyone know where Alpine Baghorns spawn?

[bold compass]

fair, and are we talking the cheapeast in these tiers or the more expensive variety?

[raw linden]

spoon is novice tier 2 crank is apprentice tier 1

[bold compass]

the apprentice tier 2 worth trying? Also hi choppa its Bearwizard 🙂

[raw linden]

basically math for my reasoning is

spoon cost: 15ish silver

gets walley through pike walleye sell for 35 cat and pike sell for around 50s -1g depending on size

crank: cost 35s: catches small or medium of all the fish types so minimum you break even and can buy back your lure and max i think the medium pike will sell between 1.5-2g

[raw linden]

i dont think it is i could see an argument for the JM lures because the shot for titanic which ive seen selling for up to 5-6g but the 2nd apprentice one i dont think is worth at all

[bold compass]

have you done any salt water fishing?

[raw linden]

a bit yeah

[bold compass]

whats the sell prices compared (roughly) to freshwater? 2x 3x?

[raw linden]

roughly 20-25 percent more

[bold compass]

well that hardly seems worth the risk at all

unless its more common to get bigger fish

[raw linden]

the thing that makes it worth is with the corsairs radar there are enough fishing spots and more storage on the boat with increased speed you can fish more fish per hour the per fish sell price is 20-25 percent more but the quantity and speed of selling the fish is likely going to be 3-5 times faster

[woeful bronze]

So make everyone do those trades or have people lose their weapons/armour.. yeah I don't see that being the answer

[raw linden]

i mean i already give mats to someone else and trust they will process it and give it back to me there isnt much difference or maybe make it like a trade window type thing so that the person getting it fixed never loses contact with the item

[solar barn]

could have an option in your actual shop/freehold to add a repair ui similar to the one with the npcs, that can repair gear up to your crafting level or smth

and limit the level of gear npcs can repair

[woeful bronze]

Processing your paying them and that's less incentive to steal plus how much legendary Mats have you handed to someone so far...

Your both over complicating an already stressed game/server/systems.. I'm all for discussions and will discuss but I'll be surprised if any of this is how they actually do it

[raw linden]

ive handed epic to people to craft gathering tools for me before and its absolutley stressful whether they will make the thing and give it back its litterally no difference here if someone steals your shit you call them out and ruin their reputation so that they cant make any money off their crafting any more

[solar barn]

it'd just be taking an already existing money sink and moving it from requiring npcs to players at higher levels, aka more player-based economy flow

which i'd prefer over just going to literally any npc on the map and not interacting with other players

[woeful bronze]

Om the face it's simple on the backend it's alot more interactions and handshakes which is more server stress and by copy-paste the vendor repair to player store is just Gunna be literally every player Gunna make store just for repairs and that's just Gunna further clutter the marketplace system.. I get what your trying for but don't see it being as effective as you think

Craftable and sellable repair kits would achieve that better

[raw linden]

i could live with a repair kit crafted by weapon and armorsmiths for on the go repairing of weapons and armor

[woeful bronze]

I don't know what input materials I would suggest for the recipe but intrepid prefer effect and feeling feedback rather then straight numbers so I would leave recipe to them but I do feel repair kits would feel fair to both sides the equation and may even be enjoyed more as can repair out in the field which allows for more time out mob grinding before having return to town for repairs or more gathering before repairing

[raw linden]

id hope for it to be semi cheap relative to every level and require novice for novice weapons apprentice for apprentice ones and so on but hopefully be relitively cheap at each level so they can be produced at a highish quantity maybe making it so that lower rarity repair for a smaller amount of durability and higher do more idk

[solar barn]

Ah, yeah, I can agree that'd be better

I misunderstood what you meant by "over complicating"

[woeful bronze]

Your all good I welcome calm healthy discussion as we all are having here and yeah over complicating I meant by adding to much extra systems or adding to much backend processing (seeing as servers are already stressed) to the development process seeing as the team already has a massive list of other thing to add to the game fixing one issue by adding new thing in just creates the endless development cycle that leads to game never completing

[wild spruce]

Where i can find/buy baby chicken/cows ?

[atomic mural]

Ag Supply I believe - your server needs to have built one tho

[wild spruce]

ok thx

[latent trench]

does better quality material make the items better?
if i made green or blue quality thread would the bag have more slots?

[leaden zinc]

So, do we still need to grind gold for the privilege to grind crafting?

[solar barn]

A bit? but crate runs aren't hard to do and should give you plenty to fund your crafting

[novel surge]

Not for this particular bag

[latent trench]

already figured that out unfortunately 🙂 wasted some blues

[novel surge]

Same haha was one of the first things I crafted

[latent trench]

now I'm running around with this... or WALKING raither. filled with greens

no clue where i'm suppose to take it lol

[woeful bronze]

you wanna take it to one the player owned towns and when they have building construction you cand eposit it into the building to help build it (note each building takes certain amount and type of crate so not every one will take herb crate but there are ones that will) if town doesnt have building you can deposit to run now you can store it in storage in that town and grab it to use later

[thick acorn]

hippo leather ontainable?

[novel surge]

Do we know if dropping your certification reduces your level?

Like if I have 11 scribe, but want to process boards and need to drop scribe to novice to bump lumber to apprentice, will scribe be 10 when I bump it back?

[tough gyro]

It should drop you to 10 so you can cert back up right after you just lose any xp past 10 when you drop same with anything over 20 if you drop JM to app

[novel surge]

Thanks! Thats what i was thinking. Sounds like if I am going to juggle anything then it should be processing since I dont think I have to worry about getting those above apprentice for a while

[tough gyro]

what I normaly do is juggle with my 5th app. I normally get all other things to atleast 10 so i can pop up to app for anything I need and relay on others when I need higher

[novel surge]

Yep exactly. I want to focus primarily on tailoring but would like to get lestherworking up a bit too. So both of those would be leveled as well as herbalism and lumberjacking

Actually just herbalism

So tailor, LW, herb, and weaving would keep leveling. Then id juggle lumberjacking, lumber milling, and tanning probably

[tough gyro]

fun times. Was hard when I started here after being a Omni crafter in FFXIV and have crafting alts in wow

[novel surge]

Lol yep im used to alts in wow and this is my first ashes experience

Was considering an alt for processing/crafting but moving money is a bit of a pain

[thick acorn]

finally got one above green only took 300 fir trees -.- what to do with 1500 white/green fir wood, 500 lumberjack quality bonus too .....

[hexed canopy]

green is the new epic, blue is the new legendary with the adjusted drop rates.
I love it personally.. it will probably take a month+ to see the first legendary weapon on the server which is perfect.

[novel surge]

Yeah I have to learn to adjust my mindset for this game lol. To make a set of adept gear is something like 400 tanned wolf hide. Even just getting that to blue (still droppable) feels like it'd take an insane amount of time and epic feels like it'd be nearly impossible

But I had also realized that mob grinding would likely take even longer for that same full set. And I assume the game also isn't balanced around everyone having rare+ gear

[thick acorn]

they need to up the effect of quality rating going from 0 to 500 quality rating basicly just gave me 10% more greens and nothing else seems to have gotten effected.
like Epic lumberbags, rare lumberkacj shirt/pants should get blues somewhat decently for apprentice and below wood

[novel surge]

Im still not 100% sure what, if anything, quality for crafting does lol

[thick acorn]

makes ur quality bar go higher

[novel surge]

I think its just higher rolls on the crafting range. Would be neat if it was same as gathering though

What bar?

[thick acorn]

https://ashescodex.com/artisan/crafting-calculator?itemId=Gear_Weapon_Axe_1H_Pyrebrand

so 1000 quality would bump a craft with all white to green and 10% towards blue

[novel surge]

Thank you! I didnt know about this but was under the impression it used some type of point system like the current WoW system

Also hadn't checked codex since I believe they are no longer maintained as of August

[thick acorn]

basicly gear a slider a high quality white will be a smidge below thebsdtats of a green

[novel surge]

Yeah thats what I was thinking initially for quality

[thick acorn]

all green with 0 quality bonus will be 0% green

[novel surge]

Like if a stat can roll 200-250, high quality is going to be closer to 250

[thick acorn]

letys say a weapon has 1000 dmg at green a white at 99% will be 999 dmg basicly where a 0% green will be 1000 but a 99% green might be 1100

[novel surge]

Perfect, that is exactly what I was thinking it was. Nice to know it works toward mixing item qualities too

[thick acorn]

that calulator reasonably accurate it off a little bit now it seems though in some crafts but u can plug u pieces in to see where u end up with missmax colours

[novel surge]

Also processing spoils doesn't proc nearly as much as id hope lol

[novel surge]

Yeah even if it isn't 100% accurate, its nice to have a general idea

[thick acorn]

i know trade packs dont seem to be accurate some times which is a pain cause u wanna hiut the next colour for better loot with minimal resources

[novel surge]

The commodities?

[thick acorn]

yeah the crates u take to other towns they sell for more if there higher green or blue compared to white

but a blue 99% will sell the same as a blue 0% so u kinda wanna use the leaste mats to just edge it over the colour bracket

[novel surge]

Oh I totally forgot about that. Ive only ever done 1 run for those before tbh

[plain wraith]

Anyone noticing worse rarity for harvesting today?

[astral crater]

So, do you need to use processing xp scrolls before putting the stuff on the bench or before retrieving them? Ive heard contradictory advices on this

[thick acorn]

processing scroll when u start, adventuring XP when u remove it

[astral crater]

ah, might be the source of the confusion, ty

[novel surge]

I really gotta remember to use my scrolls

[final tendon]

What would be best recipe to level cooking/farming/alchemy from 10 to 20?

For cooking I was doing agave syrup, but wondering if theres something better or that I can reuse in other recipes from other professions

[lusty siren]

Is coal used for anything yet?

[novel surge]

Think for JM metalworking to make steel

[sacred thorn]

You can also use the coal as a "rock" component when making crates

[glass blaze]

What price are people selling the tier 2 food at?

[rocky steppe]

ive tried to find roasted chicken but no luck yet

[finite gulch]

Are there any uses for this low tier jewelry other than vendoring it? Feel like I'm mass producing at a massive loss just to get exp

[fast swan]

what happens when i decrese a certificate?

[hollow shard]

Is it possible to have livestock ? And if yes, how ?

[sweet elk]

Does anyone know where the voidbreak pickaxe recipe drops?

[civic trout]

guys, where i can get carpenter bags recipes? apprentice. newb ones huh? nm, found it in jm carpenter vendor

[runic mica]

Anyone know where moonstrider mule hunt spawns?

[civic trout]

farming vendor

[runic mica]

not the novice mule the apprentice one i mean

[civic trout]

ya ive been answering about that mount man

we have it on our server. vendor, near JM animal husbandry

[runic mica]

ah has to be the one in the town right?

not the one in briamor or avens end

[civic trout]

yea

[runic mica]

cool cool thanks for letting me know

[marsh hull]

How do I know what city is in which 'biome'? Because sunwrought can not be crafted in miraleth for example

[novel surge]

It is kind of just learning it. I would guess based on name, that would be done in the desert

Called "Sandsquall Desert"

Riverlands is our whole southern spawn area, desert is obvious, I believe Jundark is all south of the mountains, turquoise sea being all of the coastal zones, and anvils are north of shorefoot

[raw linden]

@marsh vigil i have no way to actually test this so i thought i'd just ask does fishing quality increase the likelyhood of getting better fish during sport fishing i.e. my fishing quality is say 500 i now have a lower chance to get a walleye vs a catfish as an example

im only asking here because i see no viable way for me to definitively test this outside of catching 100+ fish with 2 different rods and taking the avg for each set of data and even then that might not be a big enough sample size to accuratly and definitivly state yes or no to my question

[vagrant dawn]

Hey folks, I stored 100 processed Ash Timber in my Miraleth Bank (the one you get for being a citizen) and now my citizen bank is just... missing?

I didn't even know we got a citizen bank account so I just wanted to check - are we supposed to get that benefit?

[marsh hull]

thank you

[atomic mural]

relogging can fix citizen issues but you should still be able to see the extra bank tab but greyed out

[magic spear]

When we unpack a crate , where the stuff goes?

Its says in storage

[raw linden]

you trying to sell that timber when you get it back xD

[hasty sigil]

are there more than the 6 Shoalskipper spawns that are on the interactive map or are those the only ones?

[radiant ingot]

Press N, you might’ve gotten the bug where you randomly drop citizenship. That loses you access to the citizen storage. But it’s all still there for when you become a citizen again.

[vagrant dawn]

Actually yeah. I'm in Lyneth.

I'm horrible and didn't state that Choppa fixed it with the relog.l

[raw linden]

Oh rip I’d buy if you were shol

[frail acorn]

does processing xp scrolls apply to husbandry or do i need to specifically do a husbandry xp scroll?

[undone kayak]

Hit P and see what the skill is classified as. Generic craft/gather/process exp buffs apply to all skills in that category. Just make sure you activate the scroll before you begin processing.

[radiant ingot]

I thought it was before you claim it? 👀

[undone kayak]

I dont think so. Someone tell me if im wrong tho cause I always use them before I put in the buy order 😭

[lusty siren]

Are bank boxes in the game? What are they called?

Desperately need to upgrade my storage

[slim brook]

hey all, can anyone tell me how i can get scorchwander recipes?

for leatherworking

[finite kestrel]

hey guys can anyone tell me what "Carapace Stingers" are for?

[gray junco]

what crafting produces the most gold

[raw linden]

Journeyman of almost anything will make money as far as novice crafting i think scribe is probably the only reliable money making an even then not much for apprentice again most things will profit

[gray junco]

Thank you

[next plank]

apparently some commission from the desert

[odd briar]

Anyone on here level 10+ hunting that i could dm. After some advise on how you got there

[raw linden]

it will be green

[radiant ingot]

not me, but a guildie is like 15+ right now and is admittedly strangely addicted to the gameplay loop for it lol. they explored and found routes on their own and kill the mobs in rotations on those routes for the huntable spawns

[odd briar]

yeah excellent! i appricate you getting back to me, thats kinda the information i was after. i expect that i will have to do the same. ive attempted to compete for grem at the starting zone but its to tedious and being on internet i have such a disadvantage with the playerbase

[radiant ingot]

yea they kinda said the same, early on you're fighting with other hunter gatherers over contested clusters of those spawns. getting some levels to safely explore a little further from our area seemed like it helped a lot but it's truly on you to scout your own preferred areas haha

ashes codex interactive map might even be of use. don't use it much so can't speak to how much it'll help tho sorry

[lilac eagle]

Is the codex map still up to date in terms of the locations of all stones/metals/gems?
In game there "rough rime" cant find it on that map tbh

[odd briar]

I have been using it for flax and for now seems up todate. From my small sample size everything is truely static and should spawn where they say

[woeful bronze]

rough rime is an anvils only resource that drops from mining stone

[gloomy dome]

what is the best thing to craft to level up weaponsmithing?

[raw linden]

can we have bags for processed materials please id like to be able to hold a bunch of timber after its been processed or make it so processed materials stack properly in the gathering bags

id also appreciate if any of the correlated skills made it so you can wear higher level bags like a JM carpenter should be able to use JM lumberjacking bags

[digital mortar]

any 1 else find that wolfs arnt repopping in usual spots

[crude grail]

whole sephillion been empty last night on P. they still have problems with respwns

[vagrant dawn]

If anyone on Lyneth wants to buy some Ash Timber I have 100+ to sell for 1s a piece. Stored in Miraleth

[hallow elk]

is anyone able to craft a weapon from the Forsaken set?

[vagrant dawn]

Just like RL, nobody wants my wood 😭😭🤣

[icy iron]

Does anybody know where can I upgrade fishing from apprentice to journeyman? (I have leveled it alredy to 20)

[raw linden]

Same guy all the way to 50

[icy iron]

Ah great, thx a lot!

[radiant ingot]

It’s like he’s been summoned by the question

[raw linden]

It’s honestly true as soon as I sat down I saw the chat light up

[icy iron]

Another question, what kind of lure do you stick with when fresh water sport fishing?

[raw linden]

Spoon lure is the best in my opinion but if you buy in Mira I’m on shol but in whatever town has the cookhouse crank lure ranges from break even to a few gold in profit

If buying at the harbor spoon is best

[tight sluice]

So do they eventually plan on equipment being destroyed, maybe only being able to repair it so many times? Or do they expect the item economy to just die after a certain period of time with hand me downs.

Just wondering if anyone remembers any input about this in the past

[native pilot]

I wish crafters could make lures

[raw linden]

Me too

[tight sluice]

Fishing is great, and cool that they added it before the big steam push, but you can tell they have not finished tying it into the rest of the game because its kind of its own stand alone

[raw linden]

Yeah I agree I also believe it’s as profitable as it’s ever going to be rn it will only be nerfed in the future

[native pilot]

I wouldnt mind it being a stand alone system. Every system in ashes is connected somehow and that gets tedious for the dev and the player.

[raw linden]

Even just making it so a weaponsmith or arcane engineer could make lures would be enough connection and outside of that giving a use to the fish you catch in sport fishing

[tight sluice]

Making a use for the fish would be great, costing script for things like the other systems would make sense aswell. Crafting ship components should be at minimum Apprentice crafting aswell in all honesty.

[worldly zealot]

what seems the best way to go to 10 tailoring?

[vagrant dawn]

Tailor

[radiant ingot]

Using the cheapest common mat recipes seems to be the way to level professions across the board. Higher rarity mats alone do not increase the exp received, would need to ultimately result in a higher tier crafted item to get higher exp. Exp tied to the tier of the resulting item rather than mat rarities.

[river compass]

What is the best method for getting carpentry from level 10 to 20?

[royal crater]

is there a place to cook in jovea?

[atomic mural]

Will depend on server - try channels below for you server

[frigid mist]

Is it intended that Ram carcass needs apprentice tanning?

[atomic mural]

yes according to P menu - but may be broken - check in bugs if you're not having any luck

[frigid mist]

Guess i will report it

[novel surge]

Yeah was curious on the intention with it. Like I am not the biggest fan of mounts being permanently tradeable since eventually stuff dwindles. There is always the prospect of people using alts but it also isn't the most alt-friendly game

[final tendon]

Where can I get baby cows/chicken etc? Lotharia server

[atomic mural]

#alpha-two-lotharia-eu would be better with buildings up

[west meadow]

Animal husbandry-apprentice- says insert adult chicken to process into baby chicken

Same with cow. Other than that not sure XD

[dull maple]

the agricutural center need to be up for that first

Journeyman one i mean

[west meadow]

Guys I have a problem….. I have an ungodly amount of silkworm cocoons and I know some people want them as I’ve been propositioned… however… there are none on the market and I don’t want to get screwed on their value. What should I do?

[west meadow]

It doesn’t seem alt friendly until you hit lvl 10 on 6 things. I’m personally opposed to alts so I’m really sad to see that I had to demote my limberjacking and decided not to promote herbalism just so that I can continue animal husbandry and process cooking which I don’t even want to do… I’m just doing to because of fishing… so yeah it really sucks but they force you to make an alt to be able to gather, process AND craft something. I’m not doing this and I’m also struggling with funds so it all just became not so fun after I got really excited to start crafting only to find out I can’t. “Make an alt” is not the answer I want to hear.

[atomic mural]

friends, guild, market?

[vagrant dawn]

Someone buy my Ash Timber in Miraleth on Lyneth 😭 I'm so poor.

[final tendon]

I've checked all cities and there's none, yet there's ppl selling recipes that require beef and such

[wheat coral]

can you still enchant apprentice artisan gear with novice scrolls?

[clever hull]

what stats actually affect sport fishing? only sport fishing power? i assume quality is useless right?

[radiant ingot]

Work with other players is the only other answer (and the answer that the devs are pushing for)

[radiant ingot]

Still? Your wood must be stale

[dull maple]

as i said i need to go up first

a mayor has to start building it first

[novel surge]

So that is actually the definition of not alt-friendly haha. Alt-friendly is typically when alts arent horrible to make/maintain

[mild lagoon]

How the equiped quality works?? i used carpentry elixir carpentry robe and pants, and some quality material i cant make anything higher quality looks like ignoring any elixir and equiped crafting quality, if i'm putting the exaclty same materials im getting the same quality stuff

[vagrant dawn]

Forever Stale is my Anthem 😖

[tight sluice]

They arnt making it so that you make alts, you are limited so that you trade and socialize. Everyone just defaults to bypassing the intended system and makes alts.

Would prefer we went back games only having 1 or 2 chars slots per server personally, but even then people will multibox just to get around things

[radiant ingot]

“Make friends, not alts”?

[vocal wasp]

If they're trying to bring back what SWG had in terms of social markets they'd need anti-muling policies and bans on multiboxing from the start

[tight sluice]

Indeed

[gilded lotus]

Hey so I have a Heroic Lumberjack JM Axe and the speed it says it gives me, is not apparent at all. I compared it to using a normal common axe and its literally the same.
The difference is like 0.5s - from a common and a heroic axe. I'm just kind of disappointed and was expecting a much more significant upgrade
I have apprentice Lumberjack shirt too.

speed difference:
285 (from heroic axe) + 60 (from uncommon lumberjack shirt) vs just 133 from apprentice axe. I saw no difference

[novel surge]

Yep I had the same realization. Speed feels almost worthless but I guess if it were more significant right now, then once GM tools exist they would clear nodes in like 1 second

I went from the quest sickle to a heroic apprentice and had to use a stopwatch to notice like a 1s difference. But overall not too happy with speed

But also a GM being that fast wouldnt necessarily be a bad thing considering the effort required

[gilded lotus]

Upgrades need to feel impactful. Like, I like to gather, but upgrading is a nice part of the growth too - and if that's not impactful, whats the point of the tiers. I might as well just buy the cheapest stuff cause it makes no difference

[gilded lotus]

I also timed it too, and it came out to 0.5 seconds

I just wanted to voice this frustration. I went through all the work for what? a half second improvement?

[novel surge]

Yep I totally agree. I put a good bit into getting heroic mats for the apprentice one since I didnt know how long it would be for JM and it does not feel worth it for speed at all

[ivory prawn]

...so that finish of the gathering destiny and getting a skill to apprentice gives you a gatherers chest but not an apprentice tool...

[gilded lotus]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1453188828784361597

I feel like PvE people at least feel noticeable improvements in their ability to fight mobs. But if this is what I can expect for upgrades moving forward for gathering, I'm kind of put off playing further.

[mild compass]

where does one promote fishing

[atomic mural]

Speak to a chef/cook in starter village or Cookhouse if built on your server

[hardy marsh]

so what do I do with the fish I get from afk fishing

[dusky folio]

crates

[atomic mural]

Crates, commission boards, requisition agent, sell on market, turn into chum, really depends on what motivates you.

[thorny mountain]

are there any artisan skills that can actually get to master rank and above yet?

[atomic mural]

I've only seen WS and MW with recipes beyond JM in the menus in game. Was looking for best tools and its seems limited to GM Pick and GM Sickle

[thorny mountain]

yeah im heavily racking my brain about the path to take, and i don't know which are more important than the others

Im focusing mainly on herbalism, alchemy, scribing and AE right now.

[atomic mural]

someone posted an image of the pathways that link so you at least try and develop complimentary skills. I started thinking Lumber things hence the Choppa name but currently leaning into Fish, Cook, Herb. 22 skills to choose from but 17 are stuck in Novice.

[west meadow]

Right I get that and I will do that regardless but the problem that I’m trying to articulate is that other people, friends, a guild, or a market allowing me to get an item I need does not fulfill the same thing as me collecting said shiny object NOR does it exclude, prevent, or deter me from doing such. I still barter and trade items I can full well get myself- but I like seeing a shiny weird rock and working towards mining it- or a fun tree I want to chop- but for some reason if I choose to do “too many” of those things, I essentially am prevented from exploring crafting or processing at all without locking myself out of the things I am enjoying. The fault is in thinking that players NEED to be directed or forced to work together but they will do that already because one can’t feasibly do everything anyway! Or at least not to the capacity another player who is niche can. It simply prevents exploring in such a way that you must lose progress or level another character TO explore.

[thorny mountain]

yeah i saw a chart, and those skills are all connected, im more confused on which ones i want to have at GM, and so on. Like do i get GM herbalism, and GM Alchemy, or GM AE. which ones would be more beneficial in specific stages to each other later on. as it stands crafting professions require so much in order to make the higher level stuff. and that alone is causing me to move away from scribing as well

[woeful bronze]

this the one your after?

[thorny mountain]

that's the one i saw

[last solar]

WoW this is a great chart.

[radiant ingot]

I get where you’re coming from and to an extent I agree. However what you’re describing is the slippery slope that made this a “thing” in the devs minds to begin with. Steven took pride in building his mmo of early days that no longer exists, that many other (not all) people crave. If it isn’t for you, it’s totally understandable 100%

[west meadow]

I see issues with it lol animal husbandry should have a line to agriculture and cooking since apprentice takes cows and chickens and I think those have to do with cooking and farming.

[atomic mural]

I would focus on which one you stop as you progress to JM and you also have the ability to downgrade for no fee so you aren't locked in if you change your mind.

[west meadow]

The cost is not in copper but in time lost and experience lost. I already had to lower and nerf my lumberjacking (which also cost me the axe I bought)

[thorny mountain]

yeah it's good to know that you can always back track if necessary, but im just trying to be efficient, especially with the amount of time it takes to level them

[woeful bronze]

it is a little dated as things have changed since it was made but its gives the general gist of things while not totally accurate

[west meadow]

Another roadblock I hit is I leveled cooking but now I need butter… and butter doesn’t exist so I’m screwed again lol

[atomic mural]

I saw it floating around the other day. Will no doubt change some more but thanks for reposting

[woeful bronze]

is there an agriculture building build yet on your server?

[west meadow]

No not to my knowledge it’s empty still 😦

[woeful bronze]

once the ag building is built in one the towns then that will sell items needed to get to your butter

[west meadow]

Yes but in the meanwhile… I hit a wall in my professions and can’t progress to apprentice without nerfing others- that’s what feels bad. Like I don’t do weaving but I have silkworms and they’re worthless to make money if no one wants them for example- same with beasts- and the gatherables don’t support a living wage (lol)

[thorny mountain]

exactly how i feel, i got so lucky someone bought moonbells off me for a total of 90s

[west meadow]

lol yeah like forget me being able to sink money into my hobby profession of animal husbandry while also being able to afford new armor because… I can’t LOL I’m begging for old armor out on the streets to make my 1g 68s to train an animal… which will probably be a beast that sells for nothing LOL

[woeful bronze]

what server are you both on?

[thorny mountain]

yeahhh im fighting to get alchemy to journeyman, because i know the better pots and elixers are going to sell for a lot, and it practically gets rid of the point of scribing, unless they can be used together

[thorny mountain]

im on lyneth

[west meadow]

All while some rich person sells mounts for below crafting cost so I can’t even recoup when I DO get lucky LOL

The new server I forget the name

[radiant ingot]

Tameable mounts don’t have any difference in higher tiers do they? I have a heroic bear that I can’t find any pricing on

[west meadow]

No they do not

[thorny mountain]

you can level up mounts apparently, is there any correlation there?

[woeful bronze]

speeds stay the same i have confirmed that, i think health may be effected by rarity but yet to coonfirm this yet

[west meadow]

Currently you can not

[radiant ingot]

Ah hmmm…maybe I sit on it for now then. Ty all

[thorny mountain]

ahhh, im def holding off on buying mounts for now, the only time im gonna get one is when i decide to get a water mount, or when T2 gliders are available

[west meadow]

I can confirm that the rarities only apply to beasts of burden stat increases- which like I said- don’t sell unfortunately

[radiant ingot]

Crate meta

[obtuse flint]

Oof, only 2 grand masters

Rip my cooking and farming dreams

[thorny mountain]

if any of you are on lyneth, feel free to come to me for herbs, pots, and possibly eventually AE gear.

I try to price based on convenience, and effort. especially trying to make an affordable profit as well

[west meadow]

Well that’s what the animal husbandry rush is all about- to get us there and make everyone happy with a cool new mount! The water mounts are amazing by the way

[radiant ingot]

I saw a water mount right before servers went down, pretty slick!

Was like a lil whale

[west meadow]

LOL the crate price diminishing returns are hitting HARD!!! I can get more for chopping and vendoring wood than I can in the time it takes to do a run!!

[west meadow]

Shoalskipper…. I may be currently logged out on top of some >;3

[radiant ingot]

You don’t need to tell me twice, I enjoy gathering so I’d hop on that without worries

[west meadow]

I just wish I had another income source possibility is my only complaint with this game so far it just feels really bad to have zero flexibility

[radiant ingot]

Ah! That’s what they look like ok ok. I see them talked about in chat and in here but never seen lol

[west meadow]

Manatee basically- I highly highly recommend picking one up- it’s a game changer

[radiant ingot]

Sad to admit I haven’t explored enough to be out in the water much. Seeing the videos and stuff of others out there looks so …new to me LOL idk how else to explain

[west meadow]

I’m enjoying exploring the map now that I feel like I’m not crawling hehe! The islands are so awesome, and the bottom of the ocean is fun it feels like I’m diving

[radiant ingot]

Did you strive to lv20+ or anything like that before venturing out?

[west meadow]

It reminds me more of scuba or freediving IRL than any game I’ve played yet

[radiant ingot]

That’s very interesting, did not expect you to describe it that way LOL

[west meadow]

No I am focusing the hunting lvling so the noobs don’t flood the hunt zones and I can have early pickings lol

[thorny mountain]

honestly, i wish i could level up, i've been lvl 13 for days, and it's because im a mage, with no groups to do leveling with lmao

[west meadow]

I’m lvl 14 but my hunting is 17.5 and AH is apprentice so I’m ready to harvest wyrms tomorrow probably

[radiant ingot]

Wtheck we all in a row, 12 here

LOL

[west meadow]

I could have done it faster but I know the secrets now to leveling those professions. I could have been 24 working on 25 right now but I wanted to explore game mechanics and not mob grind yet

My friend chose to do that haha I’m trying to convince him to help me get gliding mounts tomorrow so we’ll be ready when the station goes journeyman

[hot token]

Getting to app tailor is proving to be the costiest endeavour... and im only lvl 5

[radiant ingot]

That’s literally what I was telling my guildie earlier today I was so easily distracted by all of the things I wanted to try at the same time, and then falling into settlement progression (mundane but I enjoy the huge impacts it makes to the environment)…still lv12 lmfao

[west meadow]

I feel that- the demand for cloth armor isn’t high I imagine. I’m a caster and I’m going heavy cause my enemies are mostly physical damage

[radiant ingot]

Yea I heard that was an expensive one oof

[hot token]

Im covering 3 t3+ settlements just truying to sell shirts

its kinda frustrating

[radiant ingot]

That’s a lot of traveling but shirts make good money from what I heard!

[hot token]

Quite literally emptying the NE anvil's of its flax too

like why do t1 crafting require t2 mats, jeez

[west meadow]

And those things will reach market cap also just like mounts will I think because it’s not like you need a “new fastest mount” lol not unless someone wants an upgraded shirt to be crafted I guess

[hot token]

Indeed

[radiant ingot]

First in, big W

[west meadow]

Exactly- that’s why I chose to put character lvling on the back burner so I can focus staying ahead of the mob

[hot token]

So im making uncommon shirts, from decent supply lines, from self farmed uncomm herbs, but still

Theres no way im even making a profit

[west meadow]

The problem will arise when you can’t harvest or afford to buy something you need to even break even- that’s the issue I’m having

[hot token]

i dont think im breaking even

[west meadow]

Yeah I’m not lol

All the players are sucking each other dry only to turn to crates that… become worth less and less by the hour lol

It occurred to me at one point that crafting a crate with green mats may actually be worth less to deliver across the map than marketing or vendoring those items inside it LOL

[radiant ingot]

This is where I would love to have had a group to start with since their gathered stuff can feed your crafting to level it faster and break into the deeper recipes fast

[west meadow]

Well I joined a guild that turned out to be inactive… but… I have to wait five days to fix it

[radiant ingot]

Omg the 5 day thing was so foreign to me at first 💀

When I found out

[thorny mountain]

yeah my guild was originally supposed to be crafting based, and then turned out to be inactive as well, in the process of joining a new one

[radiant ingot]

But after a bit I realize this game is kinda…serious? So I’m not as shocked that there’s extremes like that lol

[hot token]

Yeah im alone only in my guild with the leader, we havent spoken in 4-5 days

whats the 5 days you speak of?

[west meadow]

Yeah… so I’ll just be swimming around enjoying the views and trying to make a dime off shoalskippers I guess but other people are trying to do the same lol! It’s getting- dare I say- spicy?

[west meadow]

Cooldown timer after you leave a guild to join a new one

[radiant ingot]

Dang yall are the people that I can’t find on my server bahaha. It’s been slow recruiting like-minded players. But I get it, I’d wanna try the pvp too (if I was any good LMAO)

[hot token]

that seems...excessive

fuck ok

[thorny mountain]

i will ONLY pvp when im not worried about losing the xp i spent hours getting lol

[west meadow]

lol bro… I love me some PvP but… I can’t get my summon to cooperate… I’ve had the mystic’s heal stay grey while it’s right next to a party member dying- on auto mind you- and I can’t get a heal to go off

[radiant ingot]

Fair enough lol yea the exp debt is rough for me. I can die a lot, esp when I’m toasted

[woeful bronze]

if it makes you feel any better most out there are just targeting and smashing all skills theres very few that arent mass button mashing or zerging but the high skilled good players arent as numberful as youd thing everyone sucks at the pvp its just a case of fight, lose learn how to not repeat fight again repeat

[west meadow]

And I’m terrified of mobs my level taking me out LOL

[radiant ingot]

Summoner pvp sounds crrrrrrraaaaazy i heard some fool saying his summon was healing the guy he was fighting like what even

[thorny mountain]

oh yeah, i do NOT try to fight mobs my same level, for one im heavily under geared, and playing as a mage, maintainng distance is insane

[west meadow]

Mine dips during combat often as well

[radiant ingot]

That’s so effective, I see it all the time and it works more than it doesn’t!

[west meadow]

The other thing is there’s a clear spec for PvP so if I’m not expecting to PvP the certainly won’t be using skills like “drain mana”

[radiant ingot]

I’m a tank babyyyyy, I will stand there and fight a single mob for an hour but I won’t die

[west meadow]

And it won’t either

[radiant ingot]

[obtuse flint]

The healer struggle

[woeful bronze]

perks of everyone being new, noone knows what they doing so all button mash and its not really skill vs skill its thunder dome match and rnGesus picks a winner hahaha

[radiant ingot]

I’m normally drawn to paladin style choices cuz I like being a heal tank. It’s oddly funny and enjoyable so hoping we get something like that here in subclasses!

[obtuse flint]

Paladin is 100% a subclass

[west meadow]

I’m intending on being damage summoner… I mostly use the hunter but everyone poops on it! I like it… but the mystic for healing my mount is good. The tanky boi doesn’t hold up to mobs my level unfortunately.

[radiant ingot]

Yes I realized this after watching some streams out of curiosity of high level pvp and even some of those guys keyboards go crazy

[hot token]

I mean, I've seen barbs off tank à lot

Bards

[west meadow]

I noticed I have “chains” from wow at the top of my skill tree hehe

[woeful bronze]

bards are a different breed to the norm rules for how classes work

[radiant ingot]

I did look into bards at first cuz I was considering being support so that I can get into groups easier 👀

[radiant ingot]

Chains sounds like a flashy one

[west meadow]

I thought the same but about summoner… but I think it’s unrealistic so far for me to provide consistent heals without something breaking

[obtuse flint]

Man, Necromancer sounds a lot cooler than Shaman. Might need to roll Summoner first then go Cleric

I do like the cleric experience though

[woeful bronze]

bards are in demands as they have several builds and some are vital to groups.. a bard will never outheal a cleric but offhealer is a thing and the infamous mana battery builds plus can dps build they are micromanage intensive to get full power but it is my main class and i do enjoy i can swap some skills and gear and fit almost any need

[radiant ingot]

Yea that sounds like the type of class that would suck in the wrong hands

[west meadow]

My cleric friend does really good dps also… makes me jealous LOL

[radiant ingot]

Especially after experiencing a good one, you SEE the bad ones

[obtuse flint]

Saw the skill chart for Bards and instantly rerolled the character into a tank

Way too much going on

[radiant ingot]

LMAOOOO

[west meadow]

Lolol yeah my friend originally rolled bard and felt the same so he rerolled cleric and is happy

Cleric is very good from what I’ve seen- necessary for a dungeon run with a big group it seems

[obtuse flint]

Gotta actually try out some of the damage skills it has, cause right now auto attack + smite kills things, but boy does it take a while

Getting those comissions done takes a while

[radiant ingot]

That cleric skill with the wings and charge towards you is cool

[woeful bronze]

if you get your divine power built judgement (use first skill thing to insta cast usinf divine power) into melee range no cast time smite is burst combo and leaves enemy with the higher tier burn proc can go hard once you build mag power to strengthen it

[obtuse flint]

Yeah right now I get the burn + mana regen from the Imbue Weapon skill, i havent had much of a chance to use it yet since i specced into it right before maintenance

[radiant ingot]

Hoping for early open!

[obtuse flint]

The patch just dropped, wasnt a super big one so im hoping theyll call it after a quick server reset

[woeful bronze]

cleric is my second class and im no pro but have little experience so if you every wanna dm me and ask questions about it feel free and ill help as i can

[radiant ingot]

Ope I’m gonna start that update then

[azure fern]

I figure some of you have probably been around awhile. ive been grinding away on mining and there is a recipe called sand where you take rock and try to get metals from it. and then there is a recipe that looks for gems in the rocks. The byproduct is called (Granite or other rocks) fragments and the other one is Sand. Is there any use for the fragments or sand?

[woeful bronze]

both are used in recipes in other crafts

[azure fern]

ty

I tried to look it up, however i could not find any related info on a wiki or database. I probably shouldnt have sold all that epic dust and epic fragments. oops.

[quick hearth]

Have you tried Ashes Codex?

[woeful bronze]

Ashes codex is out of date or unpopulated on many things for this version of the game

[quick hearth]

Everything gear and crafting related has been accurate for me this phase, the map and mob drops tables are definitely outdated.

[dull forum]

Ive gathered 3 legendary giant bluebells and have no idea what to do with them or what they are worth

[lavish valley]

I'll take them off your hands so you can have some extra storage space ❤️

[fair forge]

whats the point of turning 2 cows into 1 cow with husbandry?

or do you also get the adults back?

[oak epoch]

Anyone know where i can find the recipes for Apprentice Herbalism Bags?

[simple hamlet]

any gatherers out there that has advice to get higher quality mats when mining?

[atomic mural]

Gear with Quality on it - stack as much as you can afford

[simple hamlet]

quality enchants?

[atomic mural]

It comes on the tool, clothes, consumes as "Mining Quality" - can see your total in C menu Artisan tab - look at Voidbreak Mining Pickaxe for example in the WS section in P menu

[simple hamlet]

oh wow I have 0, didn't kow that, thank you!

[atomic mural]

Certain bags will also add and then I think even the Mayor might be able to give a buff but not 100% on that one

[simple hamlet]

Mayor currently has wisdom, intellect buff

[sudden wigeon]

Err question is Sanctus Sauce an evolutionary dead end? It's an ingredient in cooking that is used for nothing 😛

[atomic mural]

just been making some for preserved foods for requisition agent

[sudden wigeon]

I suppose so but then it should not have on the tooltip "Useable in Cooking". A very easy way to make preserved foods granted

[atomic mural]

yeah would be handy - there's also Beer for RA - but we dont have one of the ingrediants up north

[sudden wigeon]

Am I also missing something here? In order to get a cow you need a young cow and farming, but to get a young cow you need 2 adult cows. What kind of circular hell is this 😛

[vocal wasp]

Sounds like a you need to find two cows, or perform a daring daylight raid on a dairy farm

[vagrant dawn]

What does it cost to upgrade a gathering skill to Apprentice?

[tiny thistle]

Nothing, just get to lvl 10 then go to the correct npc at briarmoor if in the riverlands and ask for a promotion

Lvl 10 in the gathering skill

[vagrant dawn]

Oh hell yeah

I thought like everything in Verra there would be a cost

[pseudo elk]

Carpenters -- assuming Small XXXX Crates are still the best way to level 1 to 20? What do you do with the crates after? They sell for 1cp each to vendor ... surely there's something else?

[modest wedge]

I did the Carriages as they are 1 less timber and sell back to vendor for 1s 50c

[pseudo elk]

Did you notice experience differences?

[vagrant dawn]

So wait a second. Across Processing, Gathering, and crafting we're limited to a certain # of Master, Journeymen, and Apprentice?

So I will have to choose which I want to be a Master at, out of what... 22 different options?

That's really going to make masters of their Artisan Skills crazy rare per server.

[modest wedge]

I haven't checked if there is a difference at the moment I just did it as I could sell them back for 1s 50c so it saved a bit of cash

[woeful bronze]

This is pre set for when animal husbandry gets its breeding side cos you will be able use two adults to make a baby (having a 3rd cos then farming to mature it to then use it (milk, Beef meat etc etc) or grow up the calf twice and have two pairs cows breeding doubling the amount offspring produced, if I explained that well enough to understand

[woeful bronze]

Yes your going to have focus on certain skills and economy rely on other players for everything else, everyone has every skill at novice to start, you can have 5 skills all up promoted to apprentice rank (skill levels 10 to do), of those 5 four will be able to be promoted to journeyman (skill levels 20) and 3 them to master (lvl30) and finally 2 at grandmaster(lvl40)

[vagrant dawn]

Alright so 5,4,3,2. Got it. Thank you Satan

[woeful bronze]

Correct just remember of the apprentice 5, 4 those slots are used by the skills at journeyman and so on through the tiers

[final tendon]

what to do with stuff in cooking used for leveling but that can't be used to any other recipe? just sell to merchat?

I mean stuff like agave syrup that I mass craft to lvl up

[keen hatch]

Hello, if I was wanting Cooking and Farming to be my main artisan skills, what would be the other skills I'd need to level, or that would help the moist?

[vital fossil]

Anyone know a good place to get apprentice fishing and mining exp scroll recipes?

[vocal wasp]

Likely fishing and herbalism will be the big helps, will probably be able to buy the woodchips from woodcutters

[ripe mist]

Has anyone found a 'fun' crafting skill yet?
Or are they all the same boring grind?

[agile juniper]

Can you promote skills at 0% into level 10 or do you have to fill up the bar to the lock symbol?

[vagrant dawn]

I would assume lock symbol

[vocal wasp]

I've been making belts, 70 of them, one at a time. This isn't grind, its repetative strain injury with a subscription model

[agile juniper]

well for science I ran and tried it, just straight level 10 works!

[lusty siren]

where do you get forsaken emblems?

[vagrant dawn]

Oh dang, nice!

[lavish valley]

Yes it will!!!

[cloud lynx]

I hate to say it but the crafting in this game is an abysmal disappointment. The processing fees even if they were reduced by 50% would be too high, the second tier of gear resource requirements are insane, then once you gather them you find out you can't build it until the proper machine is in place . So you continue to use a level 5 weapon into pushing level 20.

[severe frost]

why does snowdrop prepared yardage take daffodils? or is it a bug?

[raw linden]

Sport fishing is a fun loop

[torpid jackal]

any bluebell map ?

[raw linden]

I think it would fix this if they made it so mayors got elected at level 2 settlements and could select a single apprenticeship table for a craft per settlement then at level 3 they got all the apprenticeship table as is now but can upgrade 1 to JM

Then level 4 no change

I believe this fixes a few issues

1. Can start crafting gear earlier
2. Can identify what a town wants to specialize in earlier
3. Would make level 2 nodes useful rather than just another level we gotta burn through

[radiant ingot]

Early world development on releases needs tuning yea

[atomic mural]

I'd like a 2.5 level that makes a campsite into an Anvils Outpost type area. The jump from 2 > 3 is quite ridiculous imo

[cloud lynx]

Thank you for the extremely helpful feedback.

[radiant ingot]

I think you might’ve replied to the wrong person, I didn’t give any feedback I just agreed with you lol. Humble was the one with the feedback

[hybrid socket]

hi i'm an apprentice miner and i'm working on my artisanal prowess. Kinda hoping to find some gamers that have apprentice certs in weaving and woodworking that could help me process some materials for hire of course

[cloud lynx]

I'm not sure this totally solves the problem, especially if you invest heavily in a town and it doesn't have a table that supports your craft. Also what I am finding is the gap between crafting tiers is too far apart, especially early on in the game. I could see it at the highest level, but not being able to upgrade your weapon until the mayor decides its your crafts turn doesnt sound like much fun to me.

[raw linden]

I like that aspect of the game where it requires community effort to upgrade and if the town you thought you wanted isn’t doing the thing you wanted then you leave

Like this phase I wanted Joeva to be a fishing town cause of all the sweet fishing spots nearby mayor decided it’s a smithing town so I moved to miraleth and am fishing the north desert and west carph river now

[novel surge]

Was curious on this. Didnt know if JM opened up an apprentice slot

[raw linden]

No it doesn’t end game you would have 1 apprentice 1 JM 1 Master and 2 GM

[novel surge]

Do we have confirmation on 2gm? I have seen it mentioned a few times here and there but people I have chatted with that played previous alphas said it was supposed to be 1

[raw linden]

Everything I’ve read and seen the last year has said 2 I didn’t quite make it last phase to test if it’s true I got fishing to GM and lumbermilling to Master but didn’t quite get there last phase to test

[novel surge]

That's totally fair. If it is 2, then I like that much more. I would personally prefer to be able to get 1 in each category but 2 doesnt feel too bad

[raw linden]

im spooked for it because im not a member of a mega guild or whatever so finding other people willing to work outside their guild is rough lol

[main crescent]

I think the Tanning profession levels up too slowly considering how expensive hides and carcasses are. Just like Hunting levels up faster, they should do the same with Tanning.

[radiant ingot]

Yea tanning is a journey compared to some others. Our hunter/tanners levels are heavier on the hunter side. Tanning side is trickling in comparison haha

He said it’s pretty expensive too. But it gave him a pretty solid boost in capital since it’s all higher value stuff. He got into the 50+g range and lv13-14 from enjoying skilling

[ripe mist]

That's kind of more Gathering than Crafting, though - isn't it? Have not tried it yet.

[solar barn]

Are quickstride potions not something actually obtainable yet?

[light mica]

Hello, i'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask this, i'm actually looking for roughrime to do a jeweler craft but was wondering where the heck can we gather thoses? I'm in Joeva region

[atomic mural]

Can be mined in Anvils if you can't buy it on the marketplace.

[light mica]

If i'm correct Anvils is the northern area? Jeez its gonna make a long travel 😄

[atomic mural]

what level are you?

[light mica]

17, i should probably be fine going all the way up there

[atomic mural]

Cross here to avoid being flagged in water (well last wipe it worked) - I've been using the far east side to transit as a lowbie so far.

[light mica]

thanks for the tip !

[lusty siren]

Is it a known issue where mining bags aren't contributing to the mining quality stat on the character sheet? I submitted a bit but was wondering if anyone else noticed his for other gathering bags

I have one blue carpentry made bag and 2 green tailor made bags

Might be related to mixing types

[final basin]

Basic question but I’m new how do I get the amor molds

[lusty siren]

Make them at the stone mason table

[cold idol]

what skill goes well with alchemy?

I am thinking of dropping weaponsmith , its starting to become very expensive for zero return , feels like if you miss the starting wave of crafters and fall behind you are done

[radiant ingot]

is this assuming you aren't into gathering?

because herbalism haha

[alpine lynx]

Do they give Mining Quality or Gathering Quality

Cause those are different stats

[solar barn]

Scribe, probably

Do experience scroll recipes drop, or is there a vendor for them somewhere

[next plank]

hello