alpha-two-artisan-chat

[stiff kite]

But I dread the long ride over there

[plush kindle]

yeaahhh thats realy somthing hahah

hope that can be chanced later maby

maybe

[stiff kite]

Yeah, need to scout the best way there 😂 because that ring is crazy good

[half tiger]

Just bought a 2nd division Helm (recipe) in Anvil that doesn't appear on the crafting station, I guess I'm only allowed to craft the Tendonite stuff here, so 3 pieces, coz the vendor only sells Zinc-based armors.

[stiff kite]

Yeah, check if the recipe demands wilderness 😂

Most likely it’s thenissue, otherwise relog and see if it’s there

[half tiger]

The recipe doesn't appear at all at the station after being learnt

[white thicket]

Yeah Anvil can’t do Riverland recipes

[half tiger]

Does anyone get to craft 2nd division armors at Anvil armorsmithing station or is it just me?

Yeah? ok.

[river coyote]

Im probably stupid but can somebody tell me where can I find or craft tendonite?

[frosty kindle]

I think it drops from basalt in anvils

[river coyote]

ah ok that makes sense thank you

[primal torrent]

So do we know how winstead and joeva ended up with the novice crafting stations they did?

[frosty kindle]

not yet, they need to level up once more

so now there is only guild master, vendor + storage

[stiff kite]

But on ptr, wasn’t some node like level 2 (that currently EU winstead is) having crafting tables? Or basic tables at least

Pretty sure I visited a node which had some novice crafting tables…

[primal torrent]

Ok well they have some crafting stations and they are different why is that?

[frosty kindle]

? all nodes start with same stuff but then each mayor can build different buildings to specialize

but as of now, all nodes will have same stuff when they level up

so novice crafting stations

[primal torrent]

Yes but the novice stations are different at each location at the moment I am asking what determines that

[frosty kindle]

are they? at least it used to be like that

[primal torrent]

yes

[frosty kindle]

but we dont have any nodes level up, was it like that in ptr then?

[primal torrent]

there is novice station in Joeva and Winstead they are level 2

and they are different

[frosty kindle]

yesterday one guy said that now all nodes can have everything in apprentice

[primal torrent]

at each location

hes is full of bull poop

[frosty kindle]

ahh, this is in US server I guess because in EU we dont have yet

[primal torrent]

Everyone thinks its going to be like the PTR test enviroment it is not

[white thicket]

I got it from granite in Anvild

[wary lodge]

Can you max every profession to 30 in the test on one character?

[frosty kindle]

no

[wary lodge]

What's the cap and for how many

[stiff kite]

Level 2 is that step above wilderness?

[frosty kindle]

2 gm, 1m, 1j, 1a

so basically in this test 4 journeyman, 1 apprentice

[primal torrent]

Can anyone answer why on US server Joeva has the crafting stations it does

[stiff kite]

Sounds strange that they have tables if they are just level 2

Or eu just bugged out 😂

[wary lodge]

What levels are journeyman and apprentice?

[frosty kindle]

apprentice 10+, journeyman 20+

[wary lodge]

Bet thank you

[spiral marlin]

is there an animal husbandry station in the anvils?

[primal torrent]

They are only Novice stations

And only a few and different at each location

[stiff kite]

Still odd, eu doesn’t have a single table in the nodes.

[primal torrent]

Level 2?

Should say Rank 2 Encampment

[stiff kite]

Depends how you calculate tbh, for me wilderness I stage 1, stage 2 is next,

[primal torrent]

Encampment

[stiff kite]

Yeah, then we are encampment

[primal torrent]

hmm

[stiff kite]

And I was there before I logged out and not a single table in the mode

[primal torrent]

so whos bugged us or you or is it test of player reaction

[stiff kite]

Node*

Only storage and quest board up

[primal torrent]

wierd because encampment has some novice stations they are just different at the two locations we have at encampment

also have mailboxes and such now there

I kinda want to make a character on eu and run over to see what you are seeing

[stiff kite]

Do that, not at the computer so can’t post picture either

But on US, have you turned in all the stuff needed also? The crates etc

Because that wasn’t done on eu winstead last I checked, we was missing crate from hunting

[primal torrent]

not all only some

[stiff kite]

Ok

[stiff kite]

Lol

Yeah we don’t have that 😂

I wonder if it’s because you have turned in some crates and finished those

[primal torrent]

who know I wish they would provide more information this is like banging your head against the wall

[stiff kite]

Yeah,

[primal torrent]

I like complexity what I don't like is lack of transparency

[stiff kite]

Like the demand on some items that need wilderness to be craftable

Yeah, the briarmoon stuff is in a node that is wilderness or higher 😂

[primal torrent]

the carcass thing is asinine

[calm knot]

So one of my crafting recipes says i need to be in the wilderness but I can't find any weapon station

[stiff kite]

Just doesn’t make sense

Carcass was like 30 carcass per crate?

[primal torrent]

yes

[calm knot]

Are there any weapon station outside the starting zones

[primal torrent]

4 times per drop

[primal torrent]

Winstead US

[stiff kite]

Partly if you are on US

[calm knot]

Damn I am in EU 😔

[glad loom]

does anyone know if Oak spawns at all in Anvils? I haven't been able to find any and can't craft without it

[nimble crow]

Anyone selling crafted starter gear yet ?

[stiff kite]

Nope, not in Anvils

[glad loom]

so how would i find it if I started in anvils?

horsing down to lionhold would be next to impossible, and also absurd

[stiff kite]

Todays patch will include the following;

Temporary Gathering Spawn Rate Adjustment

As part of our ongoing efforts to improve the economy, recipe composition and resource distribution across Verra, we’ve implemented a temporary change to gathering while we prepare for a broader rebalance in the coming weeks.

•    Increased spawn rates for the following gatherables: Copper, Zinc, Flax, Weeping Willow, Braidwood, Dragon Tree, and Cacao.
•    Mining now has an increased chance to yield bonus materials.

These adjustments are meant to ease material scarcity during testing and will continue to evolve as we move toward a more comprehensive economy update. Stay tuned!

Interesting.

[gloomy drum]

Where can I get cooking recipes? I dont see any at the cookhouse

[left parrot]

Source?

[gusty oracle]

Really hope they include huntables in this as well

[stiff kite]

Source trust me bro!

No Steven pasted that into the other chat 👍

[left parrot]

Which one

[west badger]

When you go to make a tool, say mining pick, it says "processed" lumber, does that mean any timber?(ash, oak,whatever)?

[civic bear]

Yes, any processed wood and any weapon mold is what they take.

[west badger]

Thanks for Confirming

[civic bear]

They all do need copper fragments, you can't use zinc or something else though

[west badger]

Yea, that was the part that through me off, that and when i did the weapon it said ASH like it used to, but the tool is just processed.

[coarse crane]

This is from may. Its bait.

[civic bear]

Do keep in mind this is just for the novice tools, apprentice(level 10) you will have to fit to the recipe

[west badger]

One thing at a time, lol.

[stiff kite]

Alpha general, just search for it

[left parrot]

it’s not there

[stiff kite]

Apparently deleted then 😂 should have taken an screenshot

[cedar cipher]

Or just a bad troll

[heady pewter]

Hi, ist it possible zu fett Low Level from the start area to the other one?

Fett=get

[stiff kite]

It was actually an post from Steven, but tried to find it myself now

[timid owl]

Where are the apprentice gathering trainers in the North?

[cursive sphinx]

Construction crates: If all the structures with red canvas are filled and only need carcasses (huntables), there will not spawn more structures? So only grinding is left to help develop the node?

[wet quarry]

It drops from Granite in the Anvils. But IMO its not worth it. Riverlands is like 10 times better in every way.

[river coyote]

yeah just need it to craft a spear

[timid owl]

Has anyone made it passed level 10 with gathering?

[cursive sphinx]

Not me. I am 4 and 5 in most gathering

[timid owl]

I'm stuck at level 10 up North? There is no one to train up there

[wind whale]

Is there a lumberjack cert in Anvils?

[timid owl]

Do I really need to run all the way across the map to level this up? Also the patterns are not viable for North content

I can't find one Stormy 🙁

[wind whale]

Me either.

[civic bear]

Getting the cert will be from a level 3 node

Can't until then

[timid owl]

last phase all you had to do was talk to the guys in the Riverlands by the OG crafting station and they would allow you to go passed level 10. Is that not still a thing?

[wind whale]

yeah before you could get a cert, but could not get the tool you needed until the node leveled.

[civic bear]

Not anymore, even if you can get the gathering cert, you still need to make the apprentice gathering tool

Actually, you might be able still get the cert like that yeah, but definitely no way to get the tools until the benches are up

[novel delta]

people reporting that static rarity is back, can you guys confirm?

[timid owl]

I don't need the tools, I just need my xp bar to not be locked at level 10 max

I'm gathering resources for no xp at this point

[wind whale]

I think it is back, getting crazy rarity on trees often, and at least a few have been the same spot that I remembered, but did not do a proper test.

[timid owl]

I do not get crazy rarity on trees up North either 🙁

literally have to farm 300 trees to get a legendary

[wind whale]

Yeah, not legendary for me but tons of Heroic and Epic.

[timid owl]

Epics are the same % as Legendary for me

literally the same %

I've come to the conclusion that if you start in the North area, you are drastically set back. None of the purchased crafting patterns are even able to be crafted up there

[wind whale]

I hate farming trees and being locked at 10, but it seems like fastest way to help level a node for me right now.

[timid owl]

lol I don't even know how to level a node, I'm sorry =/

[wind whale]

Just have to be their area of influence when you do stuff, like gathering, then some xp goes to that node to help it level.

[timid owl]

I did notice that, thank you

[wind whale]

The are over the map tells you what area you are currently in.

mini map.

[timid owl]

roger

I've killed 1,000's of mobs and have yet to get a viable crafting pattern. I only have a chest piece, legs, and boots....

[fallow fable]

PLEASE ADD BACK THE QUALITY PREVIEW FOR CRAFTING!!! it really sucks using some legendary mats to end up with a rare finished product... i'd like to see what i'm going to get before hitting "craft" buttun

[timid owl]

There are no Grem in the North 🙁

[left parrot]

I harvested a cluster of Epic Oak trees and then returned there later in the same day and there was the same cluster of Epic Oak. Same thing with a cluster of Heroic Ash. It’s possible I just got lucky but other people are reporting the same thing.

[wind whale]

No Grems that I have found. Our recipies call for Hawk Skin, but I can't seem to get a hawk to stand still to get the carcass, not sure how you do that yet.

[novel delta]

is it still 4hours respawn time?

[left parrot]

I do not know

[timid owl]

You just stand still after you press "F", even though the bird flies off... it will eventually die

you can't even purchase a Hawk requiring pattern up north...

[wind whale]

I tried that, maybe I didn't stand still long enough.

[timid owl]

yeah it takes a little while

[wind whale]

I saw some recipies I think on the leather vendor or the default ones that we start with, don't remember.

[timid owl]

The leather vendor sells patterns that require Grem skin. There are 0 Grem in the North

River Stalker is what he sells

it's so ridiculous they didn't look into this before turning us loose up there

[wind whale]

I know I saw some, how about the ones we start with? That is why I started looking for Hawks to hunt.

Oh yeah the Anvils is a much rougher start than the Riverlands.

[timid owl]

yeah I crafted all that

all the gear that I can craft is all Heroic or better. Which is 8 pieces of armor (including jewelry) and two weapons.

[bronze orchid]

I have noticed. Yeesh..

[timid owl]

I beat the game up North...

[bronze orchid]

May reroll & hit up Riverlands.. head up to Anvils after levelling main.

[timid owl]

In the North you have to ride for 7 minutes to get from one area of crafting to the other. There are no gathering trainers up North. Also, there are no purchasable usable patterns to be able to craft gear outside of very low drop rate receipts.

I have yet to loot a crafting receipt I could take advantage of as a Novice.

[frosty kindle]

at least you are caveman

[mellow rune]

hi I am looking for a heavy plate complete lvl 10 you sell?

[timid owl]

if I were in the Riverlands I would

[mellow rune]

what the price

[torn axle]

Hi.
Im level 7 ranger and still using lvl 1 bow. So i wanted to craft a new bow for myself.
Ash tree i can find np, and i also found Daffodils.

The carpentry table is north of Samias Hope, but where do i find the Weaver for the Daffodils ? I was hoping it was close nearby carpentry table.

[timid owl]

reroll

[left parrot]

West of Lionhold, Avon’s End

[timid owl]

get used to that level 1 bow

you'll get a different variant, but it will still be level 1 😛

[left parrot]

He probably means the starting bow which is god awful

[torn axle]

but the crafted one is doing like 80% more dmg than the one i have 😛

[left parrot]

Yeah

Honestly optimal starting path right now is sweat of your brow -> craft two weapons -> then do whatever

[torn axle]

Feels bad that carpentry is e ast of lionhold and weaving is west of lionhold.

[wind whale]

Yeah, they split the Anvils crafting areas up like that too. One area east and another to the west.

[frosty kindle]

the quest which gives like 3 armors pieces are also super fast and I think should probably be done

[torn axle]

Im sorry, i dont really know what you mean, why would you craft 2 weapons 😄

[wind whale]

melee and ranged.

[torn axle]

im a ranger, can i also be melee ?

[wind whale]

yep

[left parrot]

Both stats count

[wind whale]

if for no other reason than having the extra stats ^

[torn axle]

Thats great advice

[wind whale]

@beau I just looked on my character it is the Stonechant stuff under Leatherworking, feet, legs, and chest. I have them by default.

[timid owl]

yeah, you can recreate those patterns and that's it

[wind whale]

yeah that is all I have seen so far.

[timid owl]

no shoulders, no helm, no belt, no wrists, no gloves

[wind whale]

right.

[stiff kite]

How hard is it for any developer to acknowledge that some novice recipes are bugged so we can’t craft them (those that contains wilderness as an requirement)

[wide scroll]

Did they fix the Anvils having the Riverlands crafting recipes?

[stiff kite]

On the radar but not in this update

So maybe either Friday, otherwise it will be next week

[cosmic shard]

Why did they remove the visuals for the mining materials that was just such a huge step backwards

It was so fun to spot that piece of copper or that Ruby shining in the distance

[limber oyster]

mentioned the same thing on the PTR

[frosty kindle]

about to do an interesting test soon

do we know how this works?

sounds strong on paper

[digital finch]

Not having all crafting stations in each of the anvil starting trade outposts seems like a bad plan to me. Pigeon holes certain crafters into either hammer rest or bonfire.

[agile lintel]

it's like in Riverlands

[onyx valley]

How can I craft verdant weapons?

[vocal quiver]

can gathering tools not be crafted at higher rarity?

[raw rivet]

anyone seen rough prices for items in global? not seen many people selling stuff

[torn axle]

How does one get green or blue quality logs when chopping down trees?

[hexed canopy]

it's luck

[versed adder]

i think i saw the question earlier, but do all the mats have to be the same rarity to make a certain rarity or can you have like a couple and still have a chance?

[frosty kindle]

no, its not based on luck, there is no luck in crafting

its basically that if you have 50/50 then its either high lower tier or low higher tier

you used to see what you get but now it seems that they have hid that

[versed adder]

thanks man

[torn axle]

im talking about gathering though, not crafting.

[frosty kindle]

at least if im not mistaken at some point if there were case that 1 piece of copper and 8 oak, they mattered some amoung

[frosty kindle]

I replied demhealsdoe

and even in gathering there is quite minimum luck involved, because its based on this baseRarity system

so its not really about luck if you got legendary copper, you just decided to hit correct rock

[wintry goblet]

I took a break for a while and just gotta check. Are the gathering tools still related to the bench level to make them. Cuz someone got a journey hunting mount and there's no way there's any journey bench for the bow out there

[frosty kindle]

its cosmetics

[delicate raptor]

how many professions should you focus on? im not super on par on how its supposed to work. should you focus on just one? one of gathering one of processing and one of crafting? or multiple of the same?

[frosty kindle]

there is 5 in total that yo ucan get even over 10

[wintry goblet]

No it was the untrained mount

[frosty kindle]

untrained where, did you see their inventory?

[delicate raptor]

but do you have a recommendation on whether you should focus on many?

[frosty kindle]

not really, im gathering a bit of everything, but im probably going then one processing and one crafting

crafting seems to bloody expensive right now so I dont think you can afford even multiple

[wintry goblet]

This was in general not long ago asking what it was worth. I asked how they got it captured and no answer...

Unless it's not journey anymore

[frosty kindle]

are you sure that its from this phase even?

people like to troll

anyway, there shouldnt be a way to get them yet

[wintry goblet]

It was 10 minutes ago in general here..dunno.

Might have been a troll

[frosty kindle]

so I would say its fake or bug

[wintry goblet]

Ya that's what I was wondering was if they found a bug

Anyway I just wanted to make sure i hadn't missed something. Thanks

[versed adder]

anyone know where gerald belford is?

[tawny niche]

anyone able to hook me up with 10 copper frags?

[orchid trout]

you get it from a boss drop lol

[wintry goblet]

Good to know. I didn't take the hunting tree before so didn't know that. So technically it's not a journeyman hunting catch like the description says...

[orchid trout]

yeah lmao its odd

but still cant be turned into a mount till way later

[tropic ember]

What are the requirements to craft Apprentice tools now? Winstead has a novice weapon bench up but the recipe isn't showing up, and on the PTR the recipe wasn't showing up on a Journeyman bench either...

[wintry goblet]

Ya that I knew I just didn't understand how they captured it without a journey bow available. Thanks for the clarification 😁

[versed adder]

so i just but a rare mat and a common mat and got a uncommon piece of gear

[frosty kindle]

yup

[versed adder]

so thats what u meant earlier

[frosty kindle]

so think about it like this that common is 1, rare is 3, then being common needs to between 1-2, uncommon 2-3, rare 3-4 etc, so now that you have 1+3 / 2 = 2, so its uncommon, not sure if it made sense :)

anyway, its not about luck just thresholds and materials are giving certain value based on the rarity

[versed adder]

so it pretty much takes the avg

[frosty kindle]

yep, and I think someone check that materials are equal of "power", so if components are 1 oak and 8 copper, those 1 and 8 matter equally, so its better to put more rare to 1 than 8

but im not totally sure about the last one, I havent tested myself that

[molten leaf]

What are the main supporting profs for cooking? Like what would you Gm along with cooking?

[last ibex]

Hail. Does anyone know where "Tendonite" can be mined? I'm at a loss. TY

[cobalt stone]

I think it's a byproduct of mining, granite and or basalt in the anvils area... Thats what i was told yesterday

[torn fiber]

Wilderness is 0

[hoary garden]

So does crafting cost you silver instead of you making something from it

[clear monolith]

wheres the arcane engineering station near Khal Thorum?

[woven stone]

depends on what your making but, especially early on, yes

[glass gulch]

anyone know where to get hunting license in anvils?

i dont understand how to start hunting stuff

[woven stone]

Its the most oddball artisan skill in game

You have a chance to see animals with a white cross hair above their name. This means you can interact (f) with them, and then you will do a 'hunt' and get a carcass

its a placeholder thats been in since day 1

[glass gulch]

ive tried that but it never does anything

[woven stone]

Levels 1-10 are actual hell for hunting. You can only hunt grims, spiders, hawks, and ravens

[glass gulch]

i have a crude hunting bow

[steep current]

Joeva has the following Novice Stations:
Arcane Engineering
Alchemy
Scribing
Tailoring
Weaving

Winstead has the following Novice Stations:
Metalworking
Weaponsmithing
Armoursmithing
Leatherworking

[woven stone]

Im in anvils right now, but riverlands has pretty well known spots for it

[glass gulch]

any clue where hawks can be hunted at?

in anvils

[woven stone]

anvils

any time you see a hawk/raven/grim/spider, theres a chance for a huntable version. Its like 10% chance each spawn. You will see people regularly camping them to kill and force respawns

its not a fun artisan skill

not until later on

[glass gulch]

ill go look some more and try

[drifting gust]

man, crafting starting gear is gonna be a real adventure

[vernal locust]

Have they talked about fixing spear crafting or think that gets fixed with the first node getting to t3?

[warm gazelle]

Guys i need some help, I found a recipe for a cloak and i have the materials but i don't know where to craft it ?
It says "requires Wilderness" i dont understand where to craft it

[stiff kite]

Bug, check the news channel for updated list of known issues, hopefully they can fix this within an timely manner so we actually can craft highest tier of novice gear (each rank has 3 tiers within them).

[warm gazelle]

oh so it is a bug not just me not understanding lol ?

[stiff kite]

Nope we are several that have tried to figure it out.. but was concluded it must been bugged

[warm gazelle]

god damn it

but what does requires wilderness mean ?

[stiff kite]

Level 0 node more or less I think

When the game starts out, the node/settlement is 0

I think if the recipe has tag: riverlands it would have worked

[warm gazelle]

ohhh ok so the tag is wrong, Thas crazy people crafting heroic weaps and i cant even craft a simple cloak

[torn axle]

mornings.
crafting my first bow. I put in green daffodil thread and green ash timber. But the outcome show only a white bow?
Is that on purpose or did i miss something? (because it actually took a few hours gathering and crafting those green quality materials)

[stiff kite]

They are crafting novice with heroic materials,

[stiff kite]

The preview window has bugged out again, it should show the outcome, use ashescodex crafting to see outcome of mix and matching different color

[primal torrent]

Is the codex up to date

[stiff kite]

Should be yes

[abstract whale]

Anyone know why it's saying I don't have sufficient resources to craft these? I have the mats.. Have the silver.. Is it because I'm mixing rarity on the fragments?

[hexed canopy]

nah mixing rarity should be fine, no idea

[nocturne pendant]

i've seen people saying those 2nd sword shoulders are bugged

i think they are missing the slot for the vendor item in the UI right?

[abstract whale]

Yeah, it appears so. I even purchased the Metal Gauges: Shoulders x2 and it's still saying I'm missing resources.

Oh well. Bug report it is.

[gloomy tartan]

The Anvils version works fine.

[calm gust]

yes

[tepid iron]

Need i crafting Station or you can simple craft it?

[opaque phoenix]

Anything crafted requires its station, some recipes can only be crafted in certain areas (requirement: Riverlands etc)

Is there an Arcane Engineering station in the Anvils or just the one down in Riverlands at the tower?

[tacit geode]

there is one right to the mountain of the anvils starting location

[opaque phoenix]

Ah, opposite Bonfire at the metalworking Trades area?

[primal glacier]

a nice novice craft

[frosty kindle]

should probably be "grem skin", make a bug report

[primal glacier]

wilderness on the crafts looks like a place for crafting, but i can't understand where is wilderness.... require Riverlands ok, require Tabletop mountain ok, require wilderness... is it jundark? desert? turquoise sea?

[stiff kite]

Bugged currently, its node level 0 which we have already, I think it’s missing an label!

[simple kernel]

so we cant craft with wilderness requirement?

[woeful kestrel]

I'm being told static nodes are back. Can anyone confirm?

[limber oyster]

my going theory is clusters are acting as static nodes but the rest are functioning normally. They are incestigating though

[woeful kestrel]

That's what I thought. Sad, again. I'll check back in a few months when they get their act together, hopefully

[bronze bone]

anyone know where to level lumberjacking certification to apprentice in the anvils?

[fickle marten]

hello guys, where can I craft this type of item ?

Requires : Wilderness

I have to wait node or smth ?

[analog shard]

This recipe cannot be crafted anywhere? Nor the neutral weaponsmith nor Winstead weaponsmith

[steep current]

probably a recipe drop from somewhere

[analog shard]

I have the recipe

[steep current]

o sorry i read it wrong xDDD

[analog shard]

It just doesn't show up on the crafting tables

[steep current]

hmm bugged i guess? sorry couldnt help you :(

[analog shard]

yeah its probably a bugg i've seen other people talk about "wilderness" recipes

it sucks healing 50 per spell

the initiate scepter (copper) somehow is for lvl 20 and this is the default scepter i've been playing with lvl 11 btw

[steep current]

rip. i did the road to joeva quest and got the magic spear. i think it gave around 110magic power

[analog shard]

i like 1 handed weapons

cuz you can use focus

and i waanted to try the axe skill tree too

i guess they will fix it eventually

[steep current]

o nice focus :D

[analog shard]

really easy to craft

[steep current]

yeah then the spear is anyways weak af

[analog shard]

4 wood and 2 flowers

lol

[steep current]

lol bruh

[vernal locust]

1h spears when?

[analog shard]

i was using also wand but got this recipe which is nice

lol your names are almost the same

[steep current]

true

just jumbled up

kek

[onyx valley]

Why I have Recipe from verdant weapons and they dont appear on the npc to craft?

[wary lodge]

If a piece of armor has an item level associated with it does that mean the player must be that level to wear it?

[hexed canopy]

Gear level requirements are every 10 level

[wary lodge]

How do you know what the gears requirements are

[hexed canopy]

The grade on top right tells you. Initiate is no req, Adept is lvl 10, Radiant is lvl 20.

[vernal locust]

Has anyone made a statement about static resource rarity?

[frosty kindle]

what statement you are expecting?

[vernal locust]

Intent, policy, path forward

[frosty kindle]

at least i havent seen any and I think this baseRarity + gatheringLuck formula is total garbage

in this current format the gatheringLuck is useless

[drifting gust]

Man, I hope artisan skill trees get added soon. They've made crafting extra hard so that skill trees can reduce some of the burden, then didn't add the skull trees

[frosty kindle]

also the actual formula coding looks so amateur-like

[hexed canopy]

Roshen said they are investigating it

[vernal locust]

See? Appreciate that

[frosty kindle]

nice

[hexed canopy]

i'll do you one better
#alpha-two-general message

I was so glad too, was starting to think that what we have now is intended

[vernal locust]

+rarity is not the best stat already. If they go back to static rarity it will impact both the servers.

[wary lodge]

Anyone know the initial light armor for mages crafted from tailoring the name of the set?

[bronze bone]

anyone know where to level lumberjacking certification to apprentice in the anvils?

[leaden zinc]

Limestone nodes around bonfire. Could an apprentice miner clear them?

[bronze bone]

@leaden zinc where did you level your certifcation to apprentice?

[leaden zinc]

I didn't which is why I was asking for an apprentice miner

[normal otter]

Limestone is journeyman, you are fucked

[leaden zinc]

Maybe skate then

Slate

[normal otter]

Slate is apprentice, yes. But you need apprentice workbenches up to make the tool.

You need both apprentice tier tool and apprentice tier certification.

[leaden zinc]

How could crafting still be so hosed after all this time

[agile seal]

wtb 2x verdant oath emblem eu ;z

[hybrid swan]

dam making timber gone expensive needing sandpaper for each log not logged on for while phase 2 need lots of logs to lvl up 12 timber for 1 bow must be very bad at woodwork that a lot of waste wood for 1 bow

[primal torrent]

There is no way they are giving us apprentice crafting, the level 0 tier 3 mats are entirely to much, if they give us Apprentice crafting everyone will just skip it

No apprentice crafting until town otherwise the level 0 tier 3 makes zero sense

[onyx valley]

any1 knows where I can craft verdant gear?

[unique elm]

Any active crafting tables in the Anvils nodes yet?

[acoustic holly]

With the addition of batch Animal Training. Will all of the output of the batch be the same (mount/BoB) or can the output be mixed?

[crimson saddle]

Hiyo, out of curiousity is the verdant oath spear one of the recipes that we already know? Tried looking on codex and it doesn't have the recipe drop information, so wanted to check in case it was. Or is the drop info not on the codex because it's new

[stiff kite]

No crafting changes today 🫣

Guess it’s gonna be PoE 2 for the weekend instead and wait til crafting changes arrives, also mobs drops equipment again.

[supple bramble]

Well... killing crafters worth didn't take long.

[somber crown]

No shock, crafters get screwed over again

Spent 1G and a few hours to craft a sword <<< grind mobs for a bit and get gear for free

At the very least they need to release mob drop only gear that is generally 30% worse than crafted gear

[stiff kite]

Yeah, or just make so drops can only be white,

[somber crown]

Having higher crafting costs for lvl 10 is a bit understandable, but I have about 1G to my name at lvl 9 and I’ve solely only been gathering and doing commissions. I completely skipped bothering crafting and lvl 0 gear cause it would never be obtainable other than maybe 2 pieces

[novel delta]

rip craft again

[misty cipher]

increase recipe drop rates and remove all gear drops. Thoughts?

[limber oyster]

Make mobs drop reagents

[novel delta]

gonna play poe2 new season because of that single change

cya bois

[misty cipher]

Increasing drop rates of gear means we are going to go farm mobs for gear. You want this game to be economy driven? then stop shooting crafters (the drivers of the econmy!) in the foot. No one buys from them in the quantity they should because if we spend a couple hours fighting mobs we'll get it for free!

Wake up intrepid

[drifting gust]

Make mobs drop raw and processed mats too, so all artisans suffer

[cerulean spindle]

is material rarity still set on resource node spawn?

[misty cipher]

My guild and I were making a plan to go get recipes and crafting materials to make gear for our guild.. we were going to work together on it and that kind of co-operation and planing had me really excited about it. You know what were gonna do now!? .... kill mobs.

Such a bad bad bad decision.

[cerulean spindle]

wym crafting is still better

[misty cipher]

sure, but it can wait until 25 now

[cerulean spindle]

disagree but you do you

[misty cipher]

you gonna go waste your time getting materials to make crafted gear, someone else spends the same amount of time grinding levels and getting gear, ok, your level 15 with decent gear, they are 25 and ready to start making higher tier "end game" gear.

passible gear is enough to level and if mobs are going to drop it, thats what the majority of people will use.

[cerulean spindle]

we both still have to level crafting even if they're 25

[misty cipher]

that doesn't change the trivialization of all that in between crafted gear

[cerulean spindle]

and you can farm mobs endlessly hoping for a random drop of a piece you can use or you can craft it at a better grade easier

you're farming rng drops for gray gear im crafting exactly what i need epic/legendary

[misty cipher]

or... mobs dont drop gear, only recipes or specific materials for the gear.. now people are buying crap off the market

[sweet elk]

I agree, and being a mainly artisan player i want a player driven economy. I will say though, its been turned up, we dont actually know how much its been turned up yet

[misty cipher]

yep, you have fun in your 0 teir epics that don't matter cause everyone else is 10-15 levels higher than you with passible gear and ready to start making "end game" top teir while you still have hours of leveling to do

[cerulean spindle]

have fun grinding for hours to get 2 pieces you can actually use 🙂

[misty cipher]

2 birds one stone buddy, i can level while getting those drops

[cerulean spindle]

level 25 isnt that important tho

whatre you gonna do run caravans?

[misty cipher]

omg you are missing the point

it has trivialized all gear prior to 25.

If you cant get gear from mobs where do you get it? the crafters! even if its white!

This helps the crafters fund themselves and drives the econmy

[drifting gust]

To be clear the real problem isn't just gear being available, it's the fact that crafters now have no chance of selling their gear at cost, making leveling crafting hellish

[misty cipher]

this

[novel delta]

but his problem is getting rly worse with gear drops beign more eccesible

[sudden bane]

hi, can someone explain to me why i cant see the recipe in the workstation in a wilderness settlement pls ? it's Adept grade

got it i'm not apprentice yet

[limber trail]

No the work station is not

Need town lvl 3 and station to build to craft and also ur level to allow u

[sudden bane]

Thanks for the details!

[woven stone]

material costs for a 1h sword I just picked up

[copper pagoda]

FEEDBACK - if we can't craft T2 due to lack of benches, but you already put T2 drops in the game, FUCK YOU. You just made all of T1 irrelevant. Welcome back to zerg mob poi grinders >> everyone else, and you know, fuck crafters.

How about waiting till crafters can make T2 before you put those drops in the game.

you had ONE chance, to actually test out T1 crafting, and you already blew it. so yeah, fuck a whole lot of this direction

[dreamy kayak]

Bro what? T1 crafts are good if u craft them high rarity blame the no loops on why u can’t sell ur shit gear there needs to be a gear sink for crafting to actually be viable. There isn’t any

[copper pagoda]

just dropped off a goblin for a guildy. we've been farming materials to make ~500 power 2-handers for guildies

[dreamy kayak]

Can u show it Lego now with codex

[copper pagoda]

That's the T2 drop, 1k power at common. Vs rare crafted T1 ~500 power.

[brittle wraith]

we need these apprentice tables up when people reach lvl 10 not 25

[copper pagoda]

THAT IS THE T2 drop

[dreamy kayak]

Oh my bad we have different definitions to me 0-10 gear is t-0 because unless it’s a major bis item it’s just leveling gear crafting doesn’t really start till 10-20 gear for me which I consider t—1 but I get ur frustration

[copper pagoda]

would be the T1 drop

Lvl 10+ gear dropping when there's no apprentice benches to make anything, let alone comparable, leaves crafting completely behind

[dreamy kayak]

Yah but ur not farming mats for t-0 weapons that would be a waste of time the armor thou is where it matters

[dreamy kayak]

Start leveling up the nodes brotha

U can also contribute to that go grind

[copper pagoda]

are we talking about the same game?

[dreamy kayak]

Do u not know how to level up a node?

[copper pagoda]

there's no purchased gear, and if you want anything, you have to craft it to start.

so, if you want to use better than a rusty, so that you can kill mobs and do quests to level a node, you need gear

i've been here since A1

[dreamy kayak]

So level up the node to get better work benches I’m confused

[copper pagoda]

you are confused

[dreamy kayak]

How are people already level 25 if u can’t kill mobs without gear?

[copper pagoda]

so, in order to get apprentice benches you need a town to lvl 3 at least, and then a mayor, and then gold, and then donations, and then materials

[dreamy kayak]

So get it on it my friend

[dreamy kayak]

I know a guy from p2 who did 70 percent of the node leveling and mat grinding by himself

[copper pagoda]

have you ever played a game and done anything other than jumped to max level before engaging in ARTISAN work, like the channel we're in right now?

[dreamy kayak]

Yah I was NUMba 1 crafter for my guild

So I’m confused

[copper pagoda]

then, why is your answer "don't worry about crafting until the node is up"

have you ever done both at the same time? or for you does crafting only exist when you're level cap?

skip all the lower tiers, power up to cap, then play

[dreamy kayak]

Bc u need to level up the node to access decent workbenches to craft gear

[copper pagoda]

but, here me out, what if (big what if), what if crafting was rewarding every tier and step of the way?

[dreamy kayak]

It’s just about time management who wants to farm t-0 mats when u can drop 10 and even if u couldn’t it would be better to just start farming t-1 matsbut then crafters can make bank with t-1 crafts in high rarity do u not know how the loop works

T-0 crafts are basically meant to be filler to bis 20 pieces atleast that’s current meta

[copper pagoda]

yeah, we're in different books, let alone nowhere near the same page. I want crafting to be rewarding every tier, rather than skipping everything up till the game is in its end stages with towns at max and players at max

how it's been is "don't bother crafting till you're cap, then cash in"

[dreamy kayak]

That requires massive reworks and people just don’t play the game like that why should I wait 90 hours while I get the mats to craft my t-1 bow before I hit 25 like no that makes no sense

Have a good day thou we just play differently

[crimson rivet]

whats the new spawn timer for nodes after the changes?

[keen furnace]

where can i find flax?

[hexed flame]

weilderness ☺️

[somber crown]

1. the starting crafting quest needs to be longer and have you gather t0 mats and make valuable t0 gear

2. Remove regrants and lower crafting costs/mats for t0 gear

3. Change all mob drops to drop only random common gear that has lower stats by at least 25% and have the stats be randomized

4. Remove static rarity that for no reason sounds like came back into the alpha

5. If you are worried people would spam t0 mats for xp, just reduce the xp once you hit lvl 10, then remove it on lvl 20

[patent harness]

how do you use crafting stations? i have 2 weathered oak and a quest to refine it.. when i go to the saw i have 2 in my inventory but the crafting station says i have none.. do i have to manually move the wood somewhere?

[terse crystal]

What is everyone doing to make money to afford crafting costs? Seems like I have to dump everything ive got to make like 1 or 2 things after processing and final crafting.

[wide scroll]

ANOTHER DAY GOES BY AND THE ANVILS VENDORS ARE STILL SELLING THE RIVERLANDS RECIPES SO ANVILS PLAYERS CANNOT BUY RECIPES THAT INCLUDE THE CORRECT MATERIALS

FFS Intrepid 🤦‍♂️

[woven stone]

Apprentice recipies are RIDICULOUS

the material costs, alone, for a common piece is close to 3g or more in JUST processing fees.

100 ingots?? Which requires 200 shards to be processed? Like wtf are these numbers

Apprentice weapons will need to sell for 10g+ for just common

[wide scroll]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/1411101370718879754 - Please react to this bug thread so they actually pay attention to fixing the Anvils crafting vendor recipes so they are craftable with resources available in the Anvils 🙏

[atomic mural]

Early game crafting what level mats are you using for these? I made some white jewellery last night but seeing as crafting seems to be the only way forward at this point is it greens or blues for weapons and tools? TIA

[cerulean spindle]

are there novice recipes for things like gloves/belt etc? I can only find them for legs boots and chest

[abstract whale]

Which novice stations does Miraleth have at encampment level? Winstead is Forge, weaponsmith, armorsmith and leatherworking in case anyone is wondering

[atomic mural]

Joeva and Miraleth has the following Novice Stations:
Arcane Engineering
Alchemy
Scribing
Tailoring
Weaving

Winstead has the following Novice Stations:
Metalworking
Weaponsmithing
Armoursmithing
Leatherworking

copied from elsewhere as I'm up North in what looks like remaining undeveloped for a while

[abstract whale]

TY!

[woven stone]

Public Service Announcement:

Metalworking [Sand]

• You can turn granite/basalt/volcanic rock, into sand + a chance of either Copper/Zinc/Tendronite
• It gives equal amount and rarity as starting resource

[astral sky]

yOOOOOOO

[woven stone]

So stop fretting about "where is tendronite??" and start crafting!

[drifting gust]

But first start grinding gold for reagents!

[woven stone]

and, now, you can feel bad for all that heroic granite you vendored

[drifting gust]

Dead afterwards too unless you have a guild funneling you hundreds of legendary mats. Green and blue 20+ gear is already plentiful enough that mob grinders are selling it

[limber oyster]

you don''t and thats generally the problem

[woven stone]

for when you get to level 30+ and want very specific stats

[dusk mason]

I just made 50 flax, but it won't let me use that to make linen thread????

I bought seeds and water and used the farming station to make "flax" but it wont let me use that "flax" to make linen thread

[pliant flare]

Yeah the farming flax is different from the herbalism flax 😓

[keen otter]

anyone knows where i can tame monsters in anvils area?

[dusk mason]

how on earth are we supposed to know that?

[sinful lark]

I heard something about "Wilderness" tagged crafts being fixed, but couldn't do the flowmarked ring at the spot north of samia's. Is that just, not fixed? Or its fixed, but this ring in particular up at anvils region?

[molten sentinel]

It wouldn't be so bad if I would get something other than zinc or just sand

[pliant flare]

🤷‍♂️ i didnt know either until i tried it

[molten sentinel]

I usually just get copper or zinc, and most of the time it's just plain ole sand lol

[dusk mason]

so what do i do with the 50 flax i made? I dumped almost all the coin i had into making a large batch

[dawn birch]

did you find out what to do for money? ugh this is nuts

[terse crystal]

Unfortunately nothing, best ive found is killing mobs at your exact level

[dawn birch]

and just selling the glint? this is awful imo to being the goto to make money early on.. they need to fix this

[terse crystal]

I agree, I would prefer to be saving my glint for commodities

[rugged gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-seinfeld-secret-truth-kramer-gif-23789914

[cerulean spindle]

is crafting localized? for example, I cant craft stillglade in Anvils?

[magic hedge]

I can in the Riverlands, but there are recipes I can't craft here either

[woven stone]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-public-servant-people-person-gentleman-founding-father-gif-10293676199996065222

[queen island]

The fact that the only starter recipes you can buy in anvils for armor can’t be crafted in anvils is dumb.

[drifting gust]

don't worry, no one will buy any of that gear anyway

[glacial helm]

I get the impression that the team that is developing the artisan system don't do crafting when they play MMOs. And the team they have testing on the PTR probably don't craft much either.

[analog shard]

where can we get roughrime, anvils?

[magic hedge]

Yes

[analog shard]

thanks, just wanted to confirm

i was 99% sure but someone just said it didn't drop there

[magic hedge]

They lied

[analog shard]

no}

he is just dumb

[steep current]

Settlements at Encampment (Stage 2)

Scientific Settlements - Joeva and Miraleth has the following Novice Stations:
Arcane Engineering
Alchemy
Scribing
Tailoring
Weaving

Martial Settlements - Winstead has the following Novice Stations:
Metalworking
Weaponsmithing
Armoursmithing
Leatherworking

Economic Settlements - New Aela has the following Novice Stations:
Animal Husbandry
Farming
Tanning
Cooking

[rigid osprey]

anyone know whats up with Crafting the Brooksteel spear? doesn't seem to appear in the weapon smithing station outside lion hold

[torn axle]

Just looked at a guide to upgrade the first set of tools, it seems insane materials needed for a first upgrade.. wth

[shrewd verge]

I can craft the Riverstalker cloak but can't craft the Tithebrook cloak. Anyone know where I can find a wilderness crafting station??

[true glade]

Anybody know the actual chances of getting mats out of rock sand? Is it worth it?

[stiff kite]

Bugged, check the requires tag.

[analog shard]

hello guys

if i'm level 7

can i certificate a crafting to apprentice/adept?

[cursive sphinx]

And Cooking? Also in An economic settlement ?

[steep current]

was there cooking? i either didnt see it or i was blind

[grand jetty]

Dang it people found out... We've been buying legendary stones for dirt cheap and making them into sand. Sorry for gatekeeping this haha

[limber oyster]

you can, you need to go to the correct NPC

[terse crystal]

Gotta do em 1 by 1 to get best processing chance

Proc**

[grand jetty]

Yeah... Tho to save time we do it in batches of 10 or smthing

[frosty kindle]

is ther a bug related to flax from farming? its different compared to harvested

like, what is this

you used to get same flax, and now it seems that this has no recipes

[primal torrent]

Have you tried it?

[frosty kindle]

yes

[primal torrent]

What it give you

[frosty kindle]

its different and you cannot use it as flax

[primal torrent]

Bug report it I guess

[frosty kindle]

yes reported

you used to get same flax, also now the recipe didnt need poop

[primal torrent]

Hmm

[frosty kindle]

you used to need, seed and water from vendor + poop

to get same flax as harvested

[primal torrent]

Ya maybe it was supposed to be removed

[frosty kindle]

so it was more expensive but you were able to get flax at least

now it was only seed + water and you get this weird flax you cannot use for anything

havent seen anyone talk about this on this channel, i thought many would have noticed

[primal torrent]

Like all the recipes in game that are unlearnable because we know them already that are still dropping off mobs

I haven't done any farming yet

[frosty kindle]

I dont know what has happened but some things were working better in phase1, a year ago

its like that have upgraded old build which has some bugs from before alpha2

[primal torrent]

They're constantly changing stuff sometimes when you change one thing it breaks other things

It's a process

[frosty kindle]

yeah I do know that, im in software development myself

[primal torrent]

👍

[frosty kindle]

but this is not about breaking something, its like introducing same bug which was already fixed once

[primal torrent]

Not just code also concept's

[frosty kindle]

and of course it can happen when you merge builds

but it has been a year

[primal torrent]

Ya it's odd

[frosty kindle]

I cant imagine that some of these whings would have been in phase 2.5, so it feels that that this 3 has been a merge from longer and older build which then caused these

[primal torrent]

Maybe they wanted to remove the droppings from the recipe and broke it

[frosty kindle]

that wouldnt make any sense when you have totally new item with art and everything

I do understand if they wanted to remove it totally, but they broke also cotton

[primal torrent]

True maybe it was the new guy who doesn't know what flax is 😂

[frosty kindle]

yeah, might be :)

but time to go harvest actual flax then

[primal torrent]

Some intern

[frosty kindle]

but farming is then relegated a lot when flax nor cotton works

just wanted to make shirts but I guess not

[wary lodge]

Can anyone explain how to make an early game Greatsword with Magic Power on it my mate cant see it in crafting?

[frosty kindle]

sure, im out of game but wait a sec

[frosty kindle]

https://ashescodex.com/db/item/Gear_Weapon_Sword_2H_CopperMag

this is the recipe you are looking for from weaponsmither for greatsword

[wary lodge]

Do you have to buy it from a vendor?

[frosty kindle]

no, you cannot, you need to craft it with weaponsmith workbench

[wary lodge]

He said he didnt see it do you start with it by default?

[frosty kindle]

it should be there, at least i have crafted it, i dont remember buying recipe for it

[wary lodge]

Okay Ill run over and check if I have it then thanks

[frosty kindle]

you can just press P

dont need to run any where to see your all learned recipes

[wary lodge]

Oh true I do have it

Alright thank you!

[thorn parrot]

Anyone found a merchant selling the new emberwake light armor recites?

[glacial helm]

The artisan system without a commercial system in place to speed up the transfer of materials between crafters, is not good. It slows down artisan progress too much, and makes the game frustrating and tedious. Not having an auction house for finished crafted goods is fine, but to build a crafting system that requires so many different materials and artisan skills to combine, and not have a system in place to facilitate the transfer of goods, that is not sensible. Needs a vendor at every processor where gatherers can sell their unprocessed/processed materials to the facility, and crafters/processors can buy unprocessed/processed materials from the facility, with the prices set by the quantity of the good in stock at that facility. Everyone can then just do their artisan skill if they manage the buying and selling.

The artisan system needs to be sped up considerably and this is a quick and easy way to do it. It will also create feedback for supply and demand for artisans, it will be more apparent when there is a glut/shortage of a particular artisan profession. Limiting the planned marketing functionality to finished goods is sensible. If I want to fill my car with gas, I don't start by buying oil, then finding a refinery etc.

[dry forum]

Are we allowed to wear two of the same ring? In this case, Cindertouched craftable? Thnx.

[vernal locust]

I know you can double up rings

[orchid trout]

does anyone have a list of what benches are at the starting lvl of each node ?

[wet quarry]

They really need to make crafts simple. It needs to be a linear progression from T0 to T5. There is no world where we should be needing like 80% of the professions and 50+ items at T2. T5 should honestly have half the amount of items we currently need for T2

[glacial helm]

They want a late medieval crafting system, with stone age economics and trading.

[cunning grove]

I see where you’re coming from, but that approach would actually undermine the whole point of the artisan system.

The friction you’re calling “frustrating and tedious” is by design—it’s what forces players to interact, specialize, and build networks. If materials could simply be offloaded and purchased at a processor NPC, it would kill the interdependency that makes an artisan system meaningful. You’d end up with solo play disguised as crafting, which is basically what other MMOs already offer.

The analogy with buying gas doesn’t really work here. This isn’t supposed to be a modern industrial supply chain—it’s a medieval fantasy world where artisans and merchants are the infrastructure. If I want fuel for my caravan, I’m not going to a Shell gas station, I’m going to talk to the gatherers and traders who actually make that fuel possible. That’s where the game’s economy lives.

Yes, it might feel slower compared to NPC convenience, but that slowness creates scarcity, demand, and ultimately value. The very frustration you mention is what makes crafted goods and trade routes feel rewarding in the first place.

If you shortcut that, the artisan system stops being a system, and just becomes another vendor menu.

[terse crystal]

Honestly the more I play and figure things out with crafting, the more everyone complaining just needs to explore their options with crafting. They have actually done really well if you use everything avaliable to you.

[glacial helm]

"It would kill the interdependency that makes an artisan system meaningful." No, it doesn't. The interdependency still exists. What it does do is speed up and facilitate the interdependency. No one enjoys spamming mats on global all day. if you think people enjoy that, let a player play the vendor buying and selling. Let them stand in front of a warehouse, for hours. If you consolidate all that in one person, it is immediately clear that no one would do it.

[desert atlas]

Where in anvile would I got to make a spell book??

[terse crystal]

You won't have to spam mats in global if you dont want to once each nodes market goes up, we are only what like 3 days in? I think a little global trading being what works till marketplace goes up isnt bad at all. For really expensive high demand stuff people will sell that over global regardless.

[cunning grove]

“Saying that a vendor system would ‘kill interdependency’ is a misconception. Interdependency doesn’t vanish just because the exchange is streamlined — it simply becomes more functional. Players would still need gatherers, processors, and crafters; the cycle doesn’t break. What changes is that you remove the tedious middle-man spam on global chat that nobody enjoys.

If you believe people like standing around for hours spamming mats, then let’s be honest: put one person in charge of acting as a ‘player vendor’ at a warehouse, forced to buy and sell endlessly. The moment you consolidate the entire system into a single person, it’s crystal clear how miserable and unsustainable that would be.

A proper vendor system doesn’t destroy interdependency — it enhances it by making cooperation and specialization visible and manageable. The artisan system should encourage players to create, not punish them with tedium disguised as ‘meaningful gameplay’.”**

[glacial helm]

Unfortunately this is putting the cart before the horse. A vibrant economy depends on an efficient transfer of goods. They are trying to put in an "End-state artisan system" with a non existent economy. If you want to build it up, beginning recipes should not have the interdependence and just be vertical, then branch/grow into it with the economy. This is kind of a common problem with this project, they are a little too hung up on player experience and not cognizant of basic economics or human nature.

I'm also not sure we want a real-life "medieval simulator". There were not many happy people in medieval times even if you take out the disease and starving, life was boring and tedious. Two words that are not normally associated with a successful game. Even with a fully functional late medieval economy, the vast majority of people were brutally poor, despite working hard for long hours. I think we have successfully recreated that. The problem now is how to not recreate that!

1. How to make the lives of the common artisans worth living.
2. How to make the noble warrior class give a crap about the common artisan class, on which they depend for producing everything.

Neither of these were possible irl with a real economic system and human nature, anywhere in the world ever. Player experiences just endorse this, the vast majority of artisans are saying life isn't worth living, and the noble warriors want gear to drop so that they can eliminate the artisans entirely and not be dependent on them.

[harsh kiln]

how does one make the construction supplies to help a city? cant find it at the carpenter

[mystic steeple]

Anyone find a wilderness crafting place for verdant weapons yet?

[fresh gyro]

how are people making gold i find it extremely hard to make the gold to process the materials lol

[drifting gust]

neat part. jpg

[sharp wedge]

In anvils it's tucked behind the farmer for some reason

It's a crate supply merchant

or whatever they're called

[harsh kiln]

oooh its a merchant, it shows up in P under carpentry

[harsh kiln]

that explains alot ^^ thanks

[sharp wedge]

It's not a person it's a crafting station, sorry i'm new

I only know where the one in anvils is

[copper pagoda]

Regional Magic Powder Pretty Please. Daffodils are needed for everything now, including magic powder which 90% of the combines rely on, as well as Scribing.

[true magnet]

In order to craft for example a green spellbook which needs 12 oak and 6 daffodil, what rarety the mats have to be and how many of them? (all 12 oak and 6 daffodil need to be blue or 12 blue and 6 green are enough?). how that works?

[copper pagoda]

any rarity to make it, but higher rarity = higher result

[left parrot]

All green = green. All blue = blue. Half blue half green = green but stats halfway between green and blue.

[copper pagoda]

Formula is a range between all common grade = common craft, let's say 0 gear score. and all legendary mats = legendary craft, let's say 100 gear score. Everything in between that adds gear score to reach thresholds. higher rarity = higher score

so if you have all heroic -1, it'll be rare, but it'll be a high rare

[minor steppe]

How are you making money to process

[copper pagoda]

fishing

farming glint

farming resources and selling them

donations from guildies

[ornate viper]

I have a question. Is the Flax from Farming supposed to be interchangeable with the Flax from Herbalism? My guess is no because the icon is different and I can't seem to get Flax(from farming) to work as an ingredient to recipes needing Flax.

[minor steppe]

Oh so get use to being broke till i can make something someone wants to buy

[drifting gust]

yeah, just gotta wait until there are journeyman benches available so you have a chance at making stuff that people want to buy, after you've spent the gold to get to level 20 i na crafting skill of course

[minor steppe]

Thanks confirms it'll be worth it in the long run.

[drifting gust]

np, I'

I'm complaining about crafting but I'm still making myself a level 0 cloth set for fun

[minor steppe]

I made 10 starter wands tried to shout them out for 10 s never sold one

[drifting gust]

yeah, I've done several hours of mob grinding, so now I can afford to make myself shoulder pads

[safe vault]

I have successfully made, a spellbook. I was lvl 7 at the time. Cost all my money. Didn't take too long though.

[rigid osprey]

I'm trying to craft the BrookSteel Spear but it doesn't look like it shows up in the crafting stations at all but it says i have the recipe. Am i missing something?

[orchid trout]

few recipes are like it sadly

i think the benches are bugged

[rigid osprey]

dang it. alright thanks

[orchid trout]

I have these recipes for example and although they are lvl 0 i cant craft them any where

even tried the town weaponsmith

tried the one in the wilderness too

[stiff kite]

Confirmed bugged, should be fixed in upcoming patches

[raw linden]

i havent been able to play yet this phase anyone have any notes on the rates of xp for 1 handed vs 2 handed weapons for weaponsmithing?

mostly looking for the number of xp a common of each would give out

i want to do some calcs for progression speed and efficient leveling

[wanton lion]

do we have a list somewhere/ anyone know how many max unique items are used in a craft from vendor or a craft at one time?

[glacial helm]

It is somewhere between many shitloads and a lot of craptons!

[raw linden]

Those aren’t numbers silly goose

[odd chasm]

weve all played mmorpg's since at least 2004 and this crafting system is so old school and not in a good way. like its ur 2nd life or u stay home on a pc all day for work and have 3 monitors to make crafting meaningful. the back and forth between storage, workshops scattered around to make u travel to make this game appear alive makes me want to do go red and kill everyone outside the workshops at max lvl until theyre moved around or theres a storage system at the workshops. like a mini caravan game!

why gather at low lvls when i can gank material toteing n00bs at max tbh

[candid laurel]

Anyone know where to level up your gathering certifications in the Anvil? Level 10 lumbering and i cant seem to find the person to talk to to upgrade to apprentice

[drifting gust]

Spent all my silver and hours of my time to make blue shoes that are barely better than the stuff you spawn with. Still the best recipe I've found.

[serene dawn]

anyone know wwhere i can upgrade my mining cert in anvil?

[low mountain]

Anyone know where fishing station is in riverlands?

[serene dawn]

if i remember correctlyt there should be one at the cookinghouse icon in winstead node

[low mountain]

in the southern part? theres only a cook vendor and cook station.

[river nymph]

i also want to know this...

[drifting gust]

Refining common materials seems incredibly not worth it to me, what's the minimum quality you guys bother to refine?

[abstract whale]

Anyone know where to farm tithebrook emblems?

[low mountain]

i was gettin them from gobblins at the start of Riverland on the north side between the 2 starter towns

how do i get this armor?!

[abstract whale]

TY

[low mountain]

theres a mission about cleanin up gobblin trash and i was getting them while doing that

[abstract whale]

Okay, that's where I've been farming.. just not getting tithebrooks. I'll keep at it. Thanks!

[cosmic relic]

Artisan shirt still require Grem skin in Anvil?

[tight pelican]

Alright, so lets assume I am not smarter than a fith grader, and I have consulted google and my peers in game chat for assistance. Would anyone be able to send me a screenshot of the map, with a red dot, telling me exactly where to find the lumberworking vendor that i can buy the sanding supplies from please?

[burnt nymph]

@tight pelican have you got answer yet?

[fervent hound]

so a bunch of grey recipes are unlocked by default is that right? all the way to max? and the green and blue recipes must be acquired?

[tight pelican]

I have not!

[burnt nymph]

Ok im on my way home I'll help u out as soon. As get in about 25 min. Ur on na? And what area you in so I can help better

[abstract whale]

Just sharing with the class since I'm not sure if anyone else has tested it yet - but popping processing xp scrolls BEFORE you process (not when you click complete) will award the bonus xp regardless of whether the scroll is still active when completing and sending to inventory

[burnt nymph]

@tight pelican you on na server? And what area you in

@abstract whale thank you good sir! Was not aware

[atomic vortex]

Any idea where I can craft an item needing wilderness for the recipe.

[burnt nymph]

@atomic vortex I think I might know but I need to get home to double check dont want to give you bad info

[tight pelican]

Shol (US) and I have characters in both starter areas and the general area. Trying to test out all portions of the crafting system to see what I like the best. 🙂

[burnt nymph]

@tight pelican ok give me roughly 15 min n I should be home and I can help. Is this ur ign?

[tight pelican]

My ign is "Frederick"

[burnt nymph]

have to craft at player city if you open ur map town with tree icons are wilderness lvl but im sure u can craft at a higher stage aswell

[atomic vortex]

thanks

[glass blaze]

GREM

[analog shard]

What do you guys think about the extra ingredient for processing? I think it would be better to make the processing itself a little bit more expensive (20% maybe?) and take out of the equation the extra ingredient

It only makes you spend more time in an already time consuming task

I guess they want to burn gold with this but it just too much imo

[mellow ridge]

Is there really no way to get mining cert in Anvil area? You have to run to riverlands?

[shadow cairn]

Can you craft the Verdant Oath stuff yet or does it require a certain station yet? Shol server

[drifting gust]

I do wish that quality levels were like twice as good

[glass gulch]

anyone know where woodshop foreman is in anvils?

[drifting gust]

we have a few wood related mpcs at Bonfire Trades outpost, but woodshop foreman might be the guy who hangs out in settlement dedicated woodshop building, in which case you are out of luck

[glass gulch]

yea was trying to go up a certificate

but outpost doesnt have it sadly

[last ibex]

Where does one acquire crowbars?

[drifting gust]

had a pretty enjoyable time making a greatsword recently, after mob grinding for like 2 hours and getting a cloak and quite a chunk of silver for it I crafted some Timber and made the long walk over to Hammer Rest, then I bought tendonite off of people with my mob grinding money

[unreal parcel]

they were back in the day

not sure why they made quality crafting so meaningless now

Especially on low levels

[steep current]

Settlements at Encampment (Stage 2)

Scientific Settlements - Joeva and Miraleth has the following Novice Stations:
Arcane Engineering
Alchemy
Scribing
Tailoring
Weaving

Martial Settlements - Winstead has the following Novice Stations:
Armoursmithing
Metalworking
Weaponsmithing
Leatherworking

Economic Settlements - New Aela has the following Novice Stations:
Animal Husbandry
Cooking
Farming
Tanning

Divine Settlements - Halcyon has the following Novice Stations:
Carpentry
Lumbermilling
Stonemasonry
Jeweler

[drifting gust]

I mean, I remember legendary people splattering same level people in one shot, which was a problem, but now it's like 10% difference between common and rare

[winged roost]

How do i process fish that I catch?

[summer elk]

Is it the same for both servers?

[sweet elk]

miraleth matches on EU, id assume the node type defines the benches available
at lvl 2

[wary lodge]

What are people doing with basic tier basalt and granite everything is too expensive to simply just process it

[hybrid swan]

I keep all mats above heroic and sell as crafting expensive just processing let alone crafting bar stack of wood furnace. Still working out the fine tuning

[winged roost]

what does level do for crafting skills

?

sorry artisnaship

[steep current]

yep

[steep current]

exactly

[winged roost]

Man dropping 90% of all materials hurts

I had to step away for my infant daughter and came back dead and my shit looted

had a whole stack of epic granite and epic rubies

4 full stacks of oak

[mental maple]

Treasure maps working ?

[hybrid swan]

lol gathering quest for 20 wheeping willow no chance never got that many in months in phase 2

[winged roost]

i passed like 50 just a bit ago

they are everywhere

[hybrid swan]

oooh they made good changes then

[sweet elk]

theyre everywhere because noone can gather them.. wouldnt count anything yet

[narrow compass]

Log out instead of going afk while pvp flagged. Problem solved.

[winged roost]

PvE mob killed me I think

[fervent hound]

is anyone crafting adept weapons yet or is it tied to level 3 nodes?

[novel delta]

just go any elite poi lvl 11-19 and farm mobs, artisans are failed again this patch, specially after they make a move with increased drops.

[fervent hound]

well i'm farming HH for about 5 hours and zero drops so..

[slow coyote]

Try Oak. Saw 3 in an hour to 90 min

[primal torrent]

This isn't good 0-9 gear irrelevant already willow dropping within 4 hours or maybe before

[somber crown]

I’m still rocking the starting bow at lvl 11 lol

[primal torrent]

What they set out to do or so they say the set out to do they failed

[slow coyote]

No gear drops from combat in a mmo isn't viable. They never should have gone down that path to begin with. Would kill their game.

[primal torrent]

make early level crafting easier is what I am saying

[slow coyote]

They should yeah

[primal torrent]

Crafters have to be able to keep up with the gear progression of try hard leveling

[slow coyote]

Yes, they should speed up early node advancement, drastically expand bank stack storage, add storage at lowest node level, make crafting level 10 tools easily accessible without having to circumnavigate the globe, consolidate the crafting static starter locations and replicate them in different zones to make them more accessible to negate so much of the early time sink.

[novel delta]

its viable if crafting will be on time with lvling
for example if level 2 cities have beeen with all apprientice benches, we could already ahve lvl 10 crafted gear

[primal torrent]

There is no way to incentivize people to want to put effort into getting 0-9 level gear, no matter how you slice it. It is a waste of resources in the long run. The only way would be to gate keep levels and nobody is going to want to do that.

I wish they wanted to but they wont

[novel delta]

i actually would craft t0.2 gear this season, but there were no chance to do it
verdant oath and thithebrook leather are pretty strong even on lvl 10
BUT GUESS WHAT? YOU CANT CRAFT IT NOW EVEN ITS ANOVICE

and i knwo many otheres who will craft that shit

[primal torrent]

you can craft it now but you will also be able to craft Apprentice gear in a few days....so why do it

[slow coyote]

No, you don't take my meaning. Most mmo players are combat enjoyers that want loot. If Intrepid ruins their gaming experience and makes it a boring slog without loot, they won't play ie. Dead game. Some of the design feedback people provide isn't based on macro game health comprehension. Intrepid has to filter a lot of feedback out that would cripple or destroy their player population.

[novel delta]

no you cant? last i checked 1 day ago there were no option to craft it on novice benches

[primal torrent]

we have apprentice stations on US

[novel delta]

on lvl 3 town?

[primal torrent]

Winstead is Rank 3 village

[novel delta]

let me dm you because of no spam here

[primal torrent]

the only thing holding us back is people leveling crafting for gathering tools and that will happen today for sure

[thin hill]

and by the time we have level 3 nodes, we will just not craft it anymore cuz adept stuff is better

I really think the Wilderness thing is not intended to be gated by lvl 3 settlment buildings but well...

[novel delta]

yea thats my point too, novice gear shouldnt be gated by city lvl,
its alreayd gated by obtaining recourses (you need like 50 wolves and ravens for full leather set)

[summer elk]

Since crafting tools needs carpentry and weaponsmiting, do you need to be apprentice in those professions to craft the tools or do you need apprentice in the profession of the tool you want to craft or both?

[quiet charm]

You need apprentice in Carp/Weapon to craft the respective tool

[nimble crow]

Anyone selling cheap common leveling gear ?

[fervent hound]

If people are levelling crafting like crazy why aren't they selling all the grey shit they make? Are they just vendoring it or what?

[vernal locust]

I sell most of my stuff since to vendor. Crafted gear doesn’t stack so well.

[mint kayak]

isn't the ability to craft apprentice tools bugged atm ?

[sweet jungle]

The weaponsmithing table in Winstead only has the recipes for the novice lumberjacking axe, mining pickaxe, and herbalism sickle, but the carpentry station has the apprentice hunting bow and fishing pole available. Both are listed as Apprentice stations so one of them has to be bugged.

[river nymph]

i think so

[dusk mason]

How do I go about getting a good amount of flax? I tired growing it, but apparently that's a diff type of flax. I have been looking, but only seen one plant growing in the world.

[native wharf]

the stations are listed as apprentice, so it's probably the weaponsmith station that's bugged and the recipes need to be added.

[ornate viper]

Yes, it used to be that Flax from Farming could be used in Tailoring. It seems not now. AFAIK, you have to pick it.

[copper cave]

I have a very small QoL question. When you open the artisan skill menu (P) it always defaults to Crafting. When I'm out gathering, I would love it to remember that and open with Gathering open and Crafting closed the way it was when I last used it. Is there a setting for this, or is it just one of those things we accept and do the extra clicks each time. Doesn't seem worth a feedback note to me but curious if anyone else feels similarly.

[left parrot]

Click gathering then click a gathering profession. It doesn’t remember categories, it opens to the last profession you had selected.

(This is pretty unintuitive and should be changed as you suggest, though)

[copper cave]

Thanks. I was just opening gathering so I could see them all. Didn't think to click on one of the professions.

Compared to trying to find enough grem/raven/wolves to level up hunting this is not a big thing 🙂

[fast swan]

i have a blue wolf is this any good? more speed or what

[unique charm]

Curious question, saw quite a few people farm the level 5 goblins North East of Lionhold. How come? Is it to get Mistwood recipes or some other purpose?

[dusk mason]

But there doesnt appear to be enough of it to actually do anything, much less less up a profession

[ornate viper]

I have gotten lucky and stumbled on a 7 Flax bushes within feet of one another(twice). So, they are out there.

[safe vault]

I usually find flax in between daffodils and snowdrop

[wheat nymph]

Hey so there is a requirement set like riverlands or wilderness. But, I have recipes that will work at the same table and some that don't. Can someone direct me to some info on how that requirement system works? please and thank you

[tight mica]

wilderness are nodes crafting that u can use even in early development of node but many of this recipes dont work

[low wave]

Anyone find a mystical lense recipe? I was wondering how rare it was since I got one day 1 but it was one of the bugged can't learn recipes so I sold it thinking it was completely broken and useless

[wheat nymph]

oh so it's just not working. But a wilderness theoretically could be used in anvils or riverlands? Is that what it means? Also ty for answering

[tight mica]

i hope so 😄

my mistwood weapon work on node but armor dont tested on riverlands node . dont know about anvils

[wheat nymph]

That's exactly what happened to me. Okay cool appreciate you

[woven stone]

Treasure Maps are the path to higher tier crafting/artisan. Its the main source of large amounts of high tier materials, along with silver/gold

[orchid trout]

Do I need apprentice weaponsmitging to make apprentice tools ?

[faint kindle]

Hey Guys, how do you tell if a workstation is apprentice or not?

[umbral crown]

Survey Pylon are not working ?

[limber oyster]

they never were really working

Intrepid talked about adding something in for them and the update left for upstate

[umbral crown]

thx ! I dont understand why there are still implemented

[limber oyster]

they give a very miner boost and ability to tell whats in the very small area they cover so working just not good I guess

[raw linden]

they need to strike a balance with this though if there is too much gear drops or gear drops that are too high a level then crafting loses all meaning my suggestion has always been that mobs can only drop the most common of gear like common broze sword etc in addition to recipes for cooler stuff and crafting mats to make the cooler stuff

[slow coyote]

Instead of making combat unexciting they should introduce system design that makes everyone happy like Albion Online's where crafters make all of the gear, but drops are also very good for combat content. There's no reason that all can't be happy and get what they want out of their gaming experience. We don't need to advocate to rob Peter to pay Paul for game systems.

[raw linden]

What does Albion do? ive never played that one

[copper pagoda]

Which one is intended: T2 hunting / fishing and no T2 herb / lumber / mine, or neither, or both because the inconsistency right now is a bit disheartening

[tulip fable]

Can anyoine help me find daffodils - I swear to god they are all gone lol

[limber oyster]

they went to where P2 copper was

because a lot of miners that liked hunting for their stuff don't like the current proc only system

[tulip fable]

I have no clue what any of that means lol

I guess I figured the newbie material would be plentiful

[limber oyster]

It is you just need to go to farther off places to find it. Generally the edge of the riverlands

I know a few choice spots that I can bet have daffodils but I’ve pretty thoroughly explored for them.

[tulip fable]

I am up in halcyon - and nothing

[limber oyster]

Halcyon has some of the least gathering spawns in the riverlands. You can probably find some in between the bear caves and joeva. Basically along the south halcyon border.

[idle hull]

does winstead on shol have the basic stations?

[tulip fable]

Thanks @limber oyster that helped

[somber crown]

Did they ever work? Lol

[somber crown]

Yeah it has app stations

[brittle marsh]

It is possible to get roughrime at Riverlands?

[cosmic shard]

No

[brittle marsh]

How to craft jewelry then? Recipes arr bugged?

[copper pagoda]

for Novice crafting ?? I'm a little confused about this.

[sturdy lagoon]

Could someone link me to a good guide on crafting and trading?

[limber oyster]

I don't think there's an updated guide because the latest chnage's are so rough all around on crafters and only came in last week

[fading shale]

can someone tell me how to actually get started with crafting before i lose my mind

lol

[sturdy lagoon]

Oh no what did they do to crafters

[fading shale]

idk i just started the game today. and like, im trying to figure out how to make oak timbers or whatever. says i need novice. ive got novice. i go to the station. only recipe there is weathered oak

and crafting that does nothing for me

[sturdy lagoon]

They need to hire a guy to make new player guides

It's overwhelming to start out

[woven marsh]

do you need a certain level of weaponsmithing to 'see' a recipe you know? A friend gave me the Adept recipe for the Spellsword but I cannot see the option to craft it when I go to a weaponsmith station.

[tulip fable]

@fading shale this game is attempting to prompt you to explore the world and figure it out while you are doing everything else

What I've found so far with the design, is the game tends not to reward players that hard focus a piece of content

e.g. resources being several zones away from crafting stations requiring you several minutes to hours to collect low level gear

if you want to craft - be ready to be super patient

[fading shale]

im fine with being patient. but at least show me how to get there first

[copper pagoda]

hooray T3 town has T2 benches standard, that's much more convenient than previous

[tulip fable]

there are two crafting sites @fading shale atm - briarmore farms

and avelons rest or something like that

they are about 15-20 min ride from each other

[fading shale]

oh so its not just find a bench. its go find a frigging lumber mill out in the world

[tulip fable]

and some items require you to go back an d forth

yuppp exactly

briarmore has the lumber mill

the smithy is over at avelons rest

you will find it gets VERY tiresome to go back and forth

but - this is the reason you should get a few novice bags so you can maximize your carrying

[minor steppe]

56s just to buy the sand papper for 160 mats 56 s to sand them down 1 g 12 s total now i have no money to craft the other mats needed let alone the money to make the items How does one enjoy crafting

[tulip fable]

Anyone know where I get honey:?

[drifting gust]

Honey? From an alchemy or equipment vendor, they have a materials tab in their shops

[drifting gust]

Yeah, crafting is tough. Even the most basic weapon recipe takes like 12s to craft and is only slightly better than the default wrapon

[cosmic relic]

com back to anvil in 110 days

[drifting gust]

Yeah, trying to test artisan stuff on anvils is really hard

[lusty crest]

Anvil dudes, where do I promote mining to apprentice? Or do I have to run to fricken Joeva

[atomic mural]

Pretty sure Joeva but maybe in another week Kal might be operational? I know Anvil is a wip but if they wanted us to spread out they should have checked a few more things than just copy paste - eg Leatherworking station has recipes that you can't use because Grem skins

[shy estuary]

I get that crafting isn't supposed to be easy, but the time players waste travelling is going to cause a lot of people to not want to play.

[drifting gust]

Yeah, anvils has all kinds of problems rn, no artisan commissions, wrong recipes, no good poi= slow node levelling

[fervent wind]

Have they said if the apprentice weaponsmith table in Winstead is bugged or is it by design that you can't make apprentice tools?

[cerulean spindle]

been told there's no way to upgrade past novice in anvils. dug around for lumberjacking, couldn't find anything so I just moved my entire operation down south

[shy estuary]

So there's still no way to make the apprentice weapons yet?

[sweet elk]

Is it all apprentice benches in a t3 town? and do you have to do construction projects to make them appear or just on level up

[atomic mural]

Is that a L10 Weaponsmith unlock? That's missing the info in the Artisan Tab? Thought I saw that posted somewhere

[fervent wind]

All work benches in level 3 settlements are apprentice

But still can't seem to craft the gathering tools

[drifting gust]

You need to go to the gathering station for that I think

[sweet elk]

i think they moved them onto carpentry/weaponsmith stations but it seems people are saying theyre bugged

[fervent wind]

There aren't any more stations designated specifically for tools. Lumberjack, mining and herbalism are under weaponsmithing

Hunting bows and fishing poles are in carpentry

[copper pagoda]

all apprentice benches today

[drifting gust]

Oh, maybe we just don't have the recipes yet?

[sweet elk]

i guess that makes sense in that lvl 10 is very easy to get, and in terms of getting to 50, 2 weeks to get to apprentice probs doesnt make sense

[copper pagoda]

Farmed Flax can't be used to make Linen Thread - BUG big bug

[fervent wind]

I'm hoping it's just bugged because as an apprentice gatherer, I should automatically learn the recipe for my tools

[orchid trout]

Yeah I spent 8g refining 250 timber 250 copper frags and 250 daffodil

Gg all my money

I’m going to need 2000 copper fragments to get to level 10 weaponsmithing ???

[gloomy drum]

Is farming station flax useless?

[gloomy drum]

Yeah I made a bunch before I realized 😭

[violet trellis]

Hopefully someone in here can help me. I reached level 10 character level and a bunch of stuff appeared in the artisan list that was before X'd out. Can I now make said gear? I went to the Weaponsmith station in hammerrest outpost and I'm only still seeing initiate gear that was there previously nothing new has appeared. Do I also need to level up my weaponsmithing passed novice or?

[white thicket]

Unless a node has apprentice workstations, you can not. SO all those people that already have apprentice in crafting have to wait until a town puts it down

[violet trellis]

where can i find out if the item in the artisanship list is apprentice or what ever?

[limber oyster]

it's now called adept in the item itself but apprentice for your artisan level.
So the x's being removed is you can equip those things not that you can make them

[violet trellis]

Ahhhhh okay that makes alot more sense

someone misinformed me and said the x is the stuff i cant make but can equip and all the other stuff is stuff i can make and equip

[limber oyster]

yeah you need the crafting level to make them not the adventure level basically

[violet trellis]

time to grind up my crafting level. One more question for you. Lets say i want to make this item below. Does the location requirment mean it needs to be in both Tabletop Mountains and Wilderness OR does it mean either in the Wilderness OR in Tabletop Mountains?

[cosmic shard]

Why is Miraleth already a vessel of winsted and also why does Winstead have all of the apprentice stations up when they didn't work to build them?

I thought you could not have apprentice in more than a couple of professions at a time

[limber oyster]

I'm going to be honest no clue that's a recent addition since Tuesday and no one knows if it's working right or what wilderness actually stands for.

[violet trellis]

okay gotcha btw how do you find out what level a node is at?

[pliant flare]

apprentice stations now come with the village marketplace, and winstead vassalized miraleth when winstead became a village

[limber oyster]

map and hover over it will say

[violet trellis]

hmm someone was saying kal torhum was lvl 3 its only showing lvl 1?

im assuming rank is its level

[pliant flare]

yeah same thing

[cosmic shard]

But I thought that there was always a limit on the number of apprentice stations per village?

[pliant flare]

Not anymore, now villages have all apprentice stations and settlement specialization buildings start at journeyman level

[cosmic shard]

And now only weaponsmiths in Carpenters can make tools?

[limber oyster]

have you checked if you can make it but you have to use the weaponsmith station?

[cosmic shard]

No from what it looks like you had to be an apprentice metal smith to make it

[errant sable]

Do you pop processing exp scrolls when you start the processing or when you claim it? What does the "370 processing experience" even mean in the tool tip?

[rugged jay]

that is insane.. does anyone else think thats insane? for novice?

[velvet wind]

nice to see that they respect peoples time, like i need a second job, that oh yeah ill have to pay for to work

[atomic mural]

maybe white copper but when you use better stuff it goes way faster

I think so far maybe 20 Green and 40 Blue and I'm 3.5 MW

[drifting gust]

guys if you see wilted snowdrop everywhere plz harvest it so that non garbage herbs will spawn

[limber oyster]

where are you seeing it? should only spwn inside the starting towns

[drifting gust]

just outwside of KT

[limber oyster]

bug it we've had a similar problem with eroded granite in NA since P1

[orchid trout]

Wdym 3.5 mw ?

Metal working ?

Refining is super easy, but crafting is stupidly slow

[orchid trout]

It’s when you claim it

[fervent wind]

Unless Steven really went back on his words, he said Gatherers will be able to make their own tools

[orchid trout]

They can’t XD

You need to be lvl 10 weaponsmithing

[fervent wind]

Are you serious?

Where was that confirmed? Not saying you're lying... but that completely contradicts everything Steven has said

[orchid trout]

You can literally check in game

Press P and go weapon smithing

They also don’t show up in the benches until you’re lvl 10 people are saying

Currently I’m rank 6 weaponsmithing and I cannot see any apprentice tools to craft

(I went to winstead which has apprentice stations )

[fervent wind]

But it is an initiate level craft

I think the stations are bugged.

[limber oyster]

do you have any of the gathering skills up to level 10? feeling pedantic but on EU and no village is up yet

and genuinely curious

[fervent wind]

I have level 10 in all of the gathering skills and cannot see the recipes

[limber oyster]

if they aren't on the bench that seems more like a bug because they are in the recipe book correctly

[torn fiber]

Any 10 weaponsmith can confirm ability to craft tools?

[arctic mesa]

Is it possible to gather underwater things somehow? Some potion?

[somber crown]

We cooked

[jovial dew]

Intrepid...PLEASE, for the love of the game, either do away with processing fees or lower the costs of the materials. It makes no sense to level any of them up right now just to get to adept level recipes/gear.

[somber crown]

I’m not level 1 in fishing or hunting, but can see the app tools in the carp bench. However when I highlight over them it says requirement: apprentice, which I’m assuming is referring to carpentry apprentice

So I don’t believe that gathers can craft their own tools.

I have a feeling once they fix the weapon-smiting and add the tools back in, you would still need to be apprentice weaponsmithing to craft them

[low mountain]

are you talking about the 10 copper shards to craft the axe and pickaxe?

[jovial dew]

for gathering tools its not carpentry apprentice, but that gathering in apprentice

[somber crown]

Are you sure about that? If so, they do a horrible job in the UI cause it’s in the same place as carpenter requirements

[jovial dew]

you craft the tools for hunting and fishing at a carpentry bench, but you need to be apprentice in hunting or fishing to craft them

[somber crown]

But have you confirmed that

Cause that’s what I keep hearing, but I haven’t seen anyone actually screenshot and confirmed it

[jovial dew]

nobody can craft them right now on Shol because of a bug, but that is how it works

[somber crown]

I’ll wait and see, but I have a feeling they changed it and now only carp and weaponsmithing can only craft them

[jovial dew]

if you open your artisan window and go to carpentry and scroll to gathering tools and hover over them it will say "Requirement: Apprentice/Journeyman [Gathering XYZ]"

[fervent wind]

If that is true, they will prove they hate crafters

[somber crown]

That isn’t proved already?

[somber crown]

Ah okay sweet, will need to check next time I’m on

[civic bear]

This was in the patch notes on Tuesday, Aug 26th, for the start of phase 3.

[fervent wind]

That's a good find. Benches must be bugged. They removed the specialized stations but forgot to turn them on at the others lol

[analog perch]

I've been to the Carpentry station with Apprentice in Hunting, but not Carpentry. I was unable to craft the Apprentice Bow even with all the needed materials. The top right Apprentice text was red, while the bottom one wasn't (showing I don't have Apprentice Carpentry, but I do have Apprentice Hunting). So, yes, it seems you need to have both skills at Apprentice to craft the tools as of right now.

Hopefully this is a bug and they're trying to fix it.

[fervent wind]

That's gotta be a bug...

Unless they have some hairbrained idea that it is a good idea to combine them because they are now tradable

[analog perch]

Hopefully they see all the complaints and can tell that they've made things 100x more difficult to obtain 💀

[fervent wind]

Just another hurdle in the craftsman journey

[analog perch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pain-gif-25934677

I main Animal Husbandry, I'm always going over hurdles.

[rapid wing]

were all additive weapon bonuses removed from the game?

[orchid trout]

Why is refining so fkn expensive

Just spent 2 gold refining 250 timber

[woven stone]

me thinks its because the boosted combat experience it gives

you refine 250 epic or legendary, and youre looking at 200k exp

[celest marsh]

Bottom one is probably the requirement to equip it. You have to be a carpenter to craft it. It is similar to how the belts and other profession clothes work. I had to be a Journeyman Armorsmith to craft profession belts and I could make them for any profession but I had to have Journeyman in that profession in order to equip it. So probably not a bug.

[analog perch]

Mmmm, true, forgot about the whole clothing thing.

[summer elk]

how do you even get 2 gold so early

[primal flare]

its been almost a week i thought? could make that much with just selling glint by now

[summer elk]

yeah, if you put all of it in it and grind a lot + waste the opportunity for caravans

[neat furnace]

who didt do that?

[summer elk]

I didn't grind at all, just gather and craft, know lots of people doing the same, so no glint

[neat furnace]

i grinded a bit, no glint, no money but a level 10 artisan skill i cannot to make for myself atm.

[glacial vector]

grinding certain mobs gives like 1 gold an hour...

[neat furnace]

theres mobs that drop 1.5g and respawn every 15 minutes

how many grems can you slaughter an hour?

[orchid trout]

im mass selling items i craft

[summer elk]

to players or vendors?

[orchid trout]

people pay 90 silver for an item that costs 20 silver to craft

i have like 14g rn i think

and a broodling mount

[neat furnace]

or pay 10 bucks IRL... jk don't do that

[orchid trout]

which is 15

[atomic mural]

Selling to vendors with all the processing costs feels like a loss maker this phase

[neat furnace]

vendors recipes, glint, low quality mats you farm

tier 2 gathering tools, make money easy.. im kinda thinking they left them out on purpose

[grand ice]

I need a good way to make money so i can craft my little heart out

[nocturne pendant]

Hey, does anyone happen to know if https://ashescodex.com/db/item/Gear_Weapon_Dagger_2H_Coralblade is craftable or if the recipe is bugged?

[green heath]

do mining satchels get bigger with better quality bags? 4 slots per bag is way to little considering there is 5 diffrent ores drops from beggining with diffrent rarity u gotta leave behind majority on the loot compared to woodcutting wher eatleast u can decide what u gonna farm

[limber oyster]

no they only get better space with higher level bags. the higher rarity only adds stack size

[green heath]

thats what i meant ye.. i just got a little lost 😂 thanks

[crude finch]

omg so based xD

Also is it worth making the crafting "Clothes" that i saw?

is the boost they give worth having?

[main crescent]

<@&542059693779058748> Why is wood the only resource that maintains the same amount of space in the bag when processed?

[fading lance]

That's like a design question. The Moderators are volunteers that don't work for Intrepid/don't develop the game. If we do answer something like that, as moderators, we're basically quoting the devs, but they haven't talked about that specifically as far as I know.

[lofty lily]

i got a question: i tried to do some gathering for some job quests and i would have needed a flower with a name starting with D.. don't remember it now. i were nowhere able to find it at all. how is that supposed to work?

[onyx valley]

any1 knows already where we can craft verdant weapons?

[rugged gorge]

Because just because you turn a log into timber it's still the same size

Could argue timber should stack like wood in lumberjack bags though

[vernal locust]

All gathering bags hold more as your rank goes up. Journeyman bags, even common, hold way more

[fading path]

I'm sure it's posted somewhere, but I haven't found anything on the wiki, ashes codex, or reddit. How much XP does it take to level a crafting profession from 1-10? Is there a list of how much profession XP is granted from each recipe?

[woven marsh]

but its not. You have removed 'something' in the processing. And by that token why whould I need 4 whole trees to make a sword handle?

[main crescent]

But even if it is wood, it should occupy a single slot, since it is the only result of a process that maintains the size.

[rugged gorge]

No you haven't you get wood chips along with it, do you know the actual process of turning wood into timber? I assure they don't shrink in length