alpha-two-artisan-chat

[river peak]

why is wolf gone for meat? did that become a thing of a higher level cook?

[supple bramble]

So everyone can be novice in everything but where would I obtain the Novice Shirt for professions.. say Jeweler. I want to replace the one you purchase from vendor at the beginning

[river peak]

jeova (might have spelt it wrong) its up the hill left just inside the entrace to the town, behind a farm. You ask for the novice to apprentice upgrade then you use the bench behind to upgrade the sickle (that i know for sure as far as other items im not 100% sure)

[supple bramble]

Where is the mining vendor?

[mystic zodiac]

at any apprentice stonemasonery building

[supple bramble]

I don't recall seeing those recipes.. i will have to check again

[mystic zodiac]

apprentice buildings in nodes

[mystic zodiac]

depends on servers tho

[river peak]

oh ok

[sleek hamlet]

ok Question you need slate to make the apprentice mining tool but you cant harvest slate without that mining tool so how are you supposed to make it??????

[mystic zodiac]

you can harvest slate with a default novice tool

nvm mixed it up with basalt

but you can make the "default" apprentice pickaxe without slate

its western larch + basalt + copper

[sleek hamlet]

yes but that wont harvest slate

will it

?

[mystic zodiac]

why wouldnt it

its an apprentice pickaxe

[sleek hamlet]

slate says need apprentice tools

[mystic zodiac]

yes

[sleek hamlet]

kk ty

wherer can the default apprentic epic axe be made at

[mystic zodiac]

stonemasonery apprentice building

[sleek hamlet]

the one i see there says novice

[mystic zodiac]

is it an apprentice building?

[sleek hamlet]

is that what im look ing for

[sleek hamlet]

lol i dont know how to tell

[mystic zodiac]

this is what you need in a node

[sleek hamlet]

i am at one but it doesnt have a pickaxe to build

[mystic zodiac]

can you show a screen?

or share you screen in discord i can come in a channel below $no worry

[sleek hamlet]

what channel you want to goto

[torn fiber]

Has anyone found a tamable Kirin? No luck to date. Wonderinf if it's tamable at all atm

[mystic zodiac]

so timber take 1x3 slot for oak and ash but 1x1 slot for western and eastern

which is a bug if there's indeed one

[autumn hamlet]

Been mining the last 2 hrs got 4 copper is this a meme or something?

[low mirage]

You and a thousand other people ;P

[autumn hamlet]

I thought it was random spawns so been mining basalt etc too, but respawning nodes takes a ton of time it seems

[low mirage]

The only time I've found it somewhat reliably is off peak hours like in the middle of the night and right when server comes up. This was also far away from settlements.

The spawn time does seem pretty long, sadly

[autumn hamlet]

Is it even viable at the moment then, herbs seem far more reliable and in batches, and lets not talk about trees. When it comes to ore though zinc and copper just rare as hell.

[low mirage]

I imagine it's viable for a small few ;P

[autumn hamlet]

Like if you get to the next tier ur sorted

But getting past the first tier of armour/weapon is hell.

[swift crest]

anyone know how to get apprentice xp scrolls working?

[native trail]

Can someone explain to me how to make money with any of the Artisan stuff? I have been told caravans but I still don't really fully understand how they work. You just load them up with whatever you want and they automatically sell for more at other nodes?

Or am I better of screaming into the void that I have salves to sell or something? lol

[cobalt patrol]

You buy the commodities from hunting lodge. Load your commodities into crates and crates into caravan, then you can then sell them at other node after doing the trip.

[native trail]

ohhh okay got ya! that makes sense

[cobalt patrol]

Screaming into void might be the only solution for player interaction currently 😄

[native trail]

What kind of payout, roughly, are you looking at from doing a caravan? assuming its successful.

[cobalt patrol]

1,5x-2x

Worth is determined by the node borders crossed from start node to end node in a straight line.

[native trail]

got ya. Cool thanks for the info!

[cobalt patrol]

Np

[summer elk]

caravan runs for now. It is hard to generate money for artisan stuff atm as we don't have shops, so only writing in global that you are selling something

[minor falcon]

I haven't even seen a copper node. What's the conversation rate for ore to fragments?

[summer elk]

1:1

[minor falcon]

Tyty

[summer elk]

What server are you, I could give you some copper if you need it

[minor falcon]

Castus. I'm sure I'll find some in the morning it's all good. Just want the novice tools made

[summer elk]

I have extra, but not my server

[inner gulch]

why is there only like 4 raptor spawns on like a 45 min cd

[tight cedar]

Hmm I was getting 2-3% every gather of herbs. Now it is always 1%. Also I think Herbalism Increase Speed Rating is not working

[pliant crown]

so for the professions i have tested the numbers on my results so far
based off needing 40k exp to hit 10*

minimum costs novice 1 -> 10 (no shirt exp bonus since not all have it)
arcane engineering 2k copper, 250 ruby, 250 magic powder (copper focus)
weapon smith 2k copper, 250 oak wood (shield) [profit margin version with same exp is mace with 2004 copper, 167 oak, 167 basalt]
scribe 2k ruby, 400 magic powder (any craft, not pylons)
tailor 534 flax, 267 grem skin (feet or gloves)
leather working 534 grem skin, 267 cotton (feet or gloves)
armor smithing 534 zinc, 267 basalt, 267 grem skin (feet or gloves)

[cobalt dawn]

are epic materials lower quality than heroic?

[patent oasis]

carpentry testing is easy since the crates are only processed wood and give as much xp as all the othr crafts afaik

[gusty oracle]

have they retweeked mining resources... there seems to be a lack of well everything even rocks

[opaque phoenix]

On servers without apprentice mining there was a lot of unmineable material out there and once they got the mineable things they just stripmine the map, the chats seem to say mine all the basalt and granite you can find while out for exp etc

[gusty oracle]

i havent come across anyone mining and are server has had mining for over a week. im just roaming around and there are maybe 1/10th the nodes i usually see

maybe respawns are buggy since there are also areas divoid of mobs

[calm spoke]

Where is a good location for Weeping willows?

[olive bobcat]

common < uncommon < rare < heroic < epic < legendary

or

white < green < blue < yellow < purple < orange

[wheat goblet]

at what level can i go from hunting novice to apprentice?

[vagrant veldt]

it is bugged, no rocks are spawning anymore on arioch

[ionic heron]

someone know where to find skinwalker pls ?

[modest wedge]

There's a load of them in the new starting area to the north of it

https://ashescodex.com/db/mob/skinwalker

[cobalt dawn]

how can you upgrade your bags?

[modest wedge]

You can buy Novice & Apprentice ones from the Vendor in a Node Marketplace once you get Apprentice (lvl 10) or you can craft them. Tailoring, Carpentry & Leatherworking make different stat ones

[cobalt dawn]

oh, so i need to be apretince in something to buy the respective bag , thanks

[reef cedar]

hey guys, how many parts do I need to craft for a caravan?

was it 3 or 4?

[hybrid swan]

Presume we cant get journey bags yet, odd one found apprentice and skivvies for herbist only, any way of getting others

[reef cedar]

you can equip them if you are at that level and find get the cert up

[hybrid swan]

never seen them to make the bag or item still using novice bow etc

Journey man in juberjack and apprentice in all but fishing too much afking to fish

ok found crafting apprentice in weaving but wanted to find the gathering havnt power leveled crafting yet

ah dam need to get to apprentice in tailoring it seems to make them, not for sale

[torn fiber]

we've been trolled boys

[hybrid swan]

hehe

[torn fiber]

im tempted to use one for the meme

[hybrid swan]

need better graphic icon

[torn fiber]

A common wolf is 61 speed for comparison

[hybrid swan]

troll but cats have crap health

need to have higher rating mounts to be faster, still same spec to my knowledge

Still getting trolled by iron nodes thinking they are copper esp in the dark

[reef cedar]

do you need to get the armor for the caravan somewhere?

[whole minnow]

the first like 3-4 hrs not much respawned on resna . but it seems to be spawning more now at least

where is copper tho!?

[hybrid swan]

was tempted to photoshop it to legendary 🙂

[jagged marten]

Does anyone know if they removed the oathbearer spawn outside Judication? I’ve been here for 5 hours…

[jade gale]

anyone know the quickest way to lvl carpentry

[reef cedar]

is it worth getting the purple?

for caravans

[modest wedge]

Crates are the easiest way I think still

[simple ravine]

How do you start the other gathering and artisan professions? I went to that one farm West of Lion hold and I can't learn anything.

[hybrid swan]

Have you completed sweat of the brow quest?

[simple ravine]

I got the horse and did the one where you deliver the flowers to that farm. Does it keep going?

[hybrid swan]

what items do you want to gather most cant get too high level gathering as the items not in game yet

[simple ravine]

I wanted to try hunting, fishing, and leatherworking

I mean do I need to buy the tools or is there a quest to do? The game explains nothing of the mechanics lol

[hybrid swan]

been a while but crude fishing rods etc and river pond/water for fishing (i am still novie) but crude axe and you can chop most item you need to be lvl 20+ to chop next item lvl, I just got there and stuggling to get materials to make axe

but I think crude item you get on sweat quest

click equipment and the Artisan to see if you have picked up crude items

leveling pick up quest in lionhelm to gather 20 items lvls you and gathering so quickly

my 2p process every normal/green items then sell and keep any blue or higher to make better items

[simple ravine]

How did you get the crude hunting bow and the fishing rod?

[hybrid swan]

hope someone else remeber i cant atm

[spare owl]

do you differenciate different tree types just by looking at them?

[hybrid swan]

you get to know to colour and shape in the end

Got this from gathering quest presume just worth more money not used for crafting?

[spare owl]

10 white glint = 1 green glint, you can even condense them to save space

[hybrid swan]

oooh ta

[zealous umbra]

WHen you have the starter bag, can you only have 2 novice bags with it?

[hybrid swan]

correct you can empty them and then buy an apprentice bag but only 2 bags can be used at the same time

Apprentice bag contains 6 slots and can load 62 logs in each for lumberjack

[zealous umbra]

they fill up so quick

[zealous umbra]

thank you

looks like having mining bags is the best bet

[hybrid swan]

all pros and cons I go for wood and mining as herbs take 2 slot leaving 1 spare for poo or glint

[zealous umbra]

true

[visual trail]

So, rolling the idea around in my head, what's the best class at least this phase for just being a general weaponsmith?

[vagrant veldt]

None is better, artisanship is independant from class

[glacial helm]

If you are looking to test artisanship this weekend, it is time. Recipes are dropping, solo xp is better and it looks like they want us to get on it.

[pliant crown]

i did not use rarer mats since i wanted to do more mass testing but basically armors are in what i consider a good place for novice leveling

[boreal perch]

Where I can learn Animal Husbandry profession?

[glacial helm]

You get it at start. It is supplied by hunting, sometimes you will get a live animal instead of a carcass. Right now there is not much you can do except train mounts. So, hunt wolves, bears and cats. Look for white animals with a little gunsight on them. Please leave the grems for the tailors and leatherworkers.

[desert drift]

anyone know how long it takes a tree to grow back to adult once its chopped down?

[merry grove]

does anyone know if using rare Basalt will guarantee a rare mold?

the recipe still shows common even when I select Epic

[sweet heron]

I think using higher rated mats gives you a better chance at higher rated results, but I don't know the distribution off the top of my head

[merry grove]

it worked

[mystic zodiac]

i believe so

[stray snow]

does anyone know what snowdrop and daffodil fibers are for?

ive been using them to level weaving

[tepid notch]

Is there a "best recipe" for leatherworking to 10?

[cobalt dawn]

it does give you the rarity you put in

anyone knows what if crafting a shield gives same xp as crafting a 2h sword?

[last parrot]

has anyone been able to figure out how to enchant yet?

[winter wigeon]

anyone tell me where to get the aprentice hunting bow recipe?

[mystic zodiac]

anywhere you have a cookhouse on your server

[winter wigeon]

thanks, i'll take a look

[vast dune]

has anyone heard if we will be able to make different rarities of food in phase 2 or 3?

kind of lame that no matter what rarity of materials you use it just comes out common right now

[merry grove]

Resna has one in Johva

[chilly cape]

Did anybody else notice that their apprentice gear didn’t speed up their gathering? The speed rating was at least double to my novice act but the time to harvest was identical

Or am I wrong to expect that

[stray snow]

anyone having storage or space issues? i dont have enough space for my mats and running between stashes is horrible

[pliant crown]

it either isnt working or the scaling is so awful that you'd need like 1k speed to see a difference

[pliant crown]

basically my post here #alpha-two-artisan-chat message
feet or gloves minmal resources to xp ratio

[signal orchid]

I spent 3h this moringing trying to find copper to mine.. anyone got a hint where it is located?

[tepid notch]

Thank you! A search didn't bring up anything. Appreciate the effort to link

[pliant crown]

currently enchanting is use 'enchanting scroll' select item of tier of scroll for quite a bit of money +1 to all stats on the item

[pliant crown]

in my experience for some reason ores tend to spawn whenever you have mining nodes near water

idk why though

[signal orchid]

Interesting

[sterile grail]

Max green seems to pay more

[pliant crown]

was gonna test weaponsmith exp when i got back from lunch but servers went down for maint :x

not going to test all the weaponsmith recipees only the ones with different crafting items cause its a lot of copper to test that profession

[chilly cape]

Maybe…you would think that 2.3x the speed improvement would be discernible though

[pliant crown]

and a minor test on carpentry since people said the caravan boxes were best exp just to see

[pliant crown]

i think they need to drop the random number speed increases and just make it give flat speed increase so like -.1 seconds to gather time

[chilly cape]

You need to mine nodes other than copper so it can spawn again in my experience.

[pliant crown]

cause its too small to be noticable

[ionic heron]

Ty

[pliant crown]

like say 250 gathering speed is actually -.5 seconds on a big node or -.25 second on a small node its just hard to tell by a 'feeling'

the other option is it just doesnt work

[chilly cape]

Eh, I don’t mind since higher quality mats give more weight to the crafting of the tools, but I would like to see more of a noticeable increase. One of the few things that didn’t feel like it “leveled” with me so far

[stray snow]

the pylons and artisan gear definitely do absolutely nothing at the moment at least in my testing

[pliant crown]

its kinda like how gathering quantity seems to work but only if its fat enough on the stat

[stray snow]

i havent gotten extra materials or done anything faster

or xp

[pliant crown]

pylons give 'stats' even if they were working its too small to have an effect

like 55 rarity isnt really anything from my experience

but a lot of the 'increases exp' for artisian stuff doesnt work

some does but not everything

so its really confusing

[stray snow]

yea for weaving and tailoring the increase xp doesnt work

[pliant crown]

like one of the nodes on my server has the 'icnreases crafted exp' building but it doesnt actually do anything

[stray snow]

idk about anything else

[pliant crown]

so far for me, all the artisian shirts that say 'increased exp' do work

[spiral field]

I found more copper this morning than the rest of my time in alpha put together. Early morning or right after a restart are best times

[stray snow]

as a person who loves the market and crafting and solo, ive been just farming stuff that drops poop

[chilly cape]

prob needs reported as bug/feedback then. sounds broken which is what i thought

[pliant crown]

did some mental math earlier today and my guess is each 'material' being a flat +50 exp in a craft would make all crafts feel less unrewording at novice tier

but i'll just test a few more professions since i decided that tailoring isnt dog shit to get out of novice i can now burn my other mats for fun lol

[vagrant veldt]

I'll give you a technique:
Find an area with lots of stones. Then mine everything you find in the area, even the basalt and granite, like everything. Wait between 30 and 45 minutes. The minerals will start to reappear.
Note that ores reappear randomly in a suitable place. So if you make room for them in your zone, you increase your chances of minerals such as copper, tin, etc. reappearing.
So my advice is to clear a zone, sell all the low rarety minerals you got and store the rest and come back to the zone or clear another one if the minerals didn't respawn.

[stray snow]

the difficulty in leveling crafting, and just leveling your char in general, is a good thing. however, running around between stashes in order to do so feels really bad and reminds me of early new world

they need to have limited teleports, could be like everquest where druids/wizards can only do it. or, they need some localized bank

universal bank*

[pliant crown]

if it can just pull stuff from local storage it will help a lot in that aspect

[gusty oracle]

server respawns for ore and mobs seemed abit buggy today hopefully its fixed with this restart

[vagrant veldt]

Yeah, I waited 5 hours to see a single ore respawn ...

[pliant crown]

i personally heard on top of ore randomly having a chance to respawn the world caps how many can exist but idk how they were able to test that info/get that kind of info

[vagrant veldt]

Pretty easily. All the code is on server so you just have (in theory) to declare a variable that count the number of copper you have in the map. When you harvest a copper, you send an info to the server that subtracts to the variable 1. Then the server can pop a new copper so it adds one to the varaible. Work's done ! ^^ (joke appart, it must be a little harder than that)

[tribal spoke]

Anyone managed to get to lvl 10 blacksmithing? Am I right that you need ~800(before buffs) of ore to get to lvl 10?

[pliant crown]

do you mean metalworking?

[tribal spoke]

i meant weaposmithing or maybe I mix the name, anyway the thing where you craft metal weapons like swords 😛

[pliant crown]

was going to test that when i got home but now just when server is up

[cobalt dawn]

do you know the xp you get from a shield if it s different from what you get from a sword?

[tribal spoke]

its the same per ore

proportional*

[mystic zodiac]

sameish no?

[pliant crown]

unless you get like 1k exp for great sword its a lot of ore

[cobalt dawn]

one is 8 fragments the other is 12

didn t test yet

and i saw it s quite expensive to craft also

[gusty oracle]

i will give it a test when the servers come back

[fleet wasp]

Is Pallas cat Huntable at level 1 hunting or do you need level 10?

[tepid notch]

Any amazing droppings farm spots? I've found some success with 1* bears

But I'm wondering if there's a better location

[gusty oracle]

8 copper + 1 oak timber = copper shield 160xp. 20 copper + 1 oak timber +1 basalt weapon mold = greatsword 300xp

[pliant crown]

yep same results, wull updste my previous post but basically cheapest option is 2k copper for 40k crafting exp which is the current expected amount to to get 10 as far as i know

on the positive side that is the same as arcane engineering lol

magic powder recipee didnt effect exp

[gusty oracle]

ye im probably gonna wait for phase 2 befor going fully into a crafting skill

[wide portal]

Both shield and mace/scepter give you the same exp per copper fragment invested.
Shield sells for 65ish copper and mace/scepter sells for 1 silver something.
Mace/scepter is the most efficient recipe to craft for leveling up due to the better returns from vendoring the item. You just have to throw the 1 basalt in, which is very easy to get

Don't bother with greatsword not worth

[pliant crown]

yea basically the 12 and 8 copper recipes are 20 exp per copper ore, where as the greatswords are 15 exp per copper ore

npc value interesting to know though it makes sense to want to try to make money back in some form

[wide portal]

Ye, make it as sustainable as you can

You're still losing gold, just better to lose less

I spent like 80+ copper to craft stuff and didn't even get a single level so I went nah fuck it ain't leveling weaponsmithing xD

[gusty oracle]

think i might just try lvling alchemy

[pliant crown]

unless this patch fixed it alchemy is missing a lot of recipes

at apprentice

[gusty oracle]

😦

[pliant crown]

basically can make apprentice salves for more than npc sells it for [30 copper] or make regular hp/mp potion for less than the npc sells it for like 80ish copper is your cost vs npc being like 1s and change

although the 1 hp potion i consumed didnt heal me so theres that too

[gusty oracle]

also it seems health potions only regen 300 something health dont seem worth the effort

[pliant crown]

the apprentice alchemy station was missing green ink which would be used for scribe so that profession gets hard locked unless that was fixed

and its like good for level 10-20 characters for a quick burst of hp

[gusty oracle]

maybe ill just try jewlcrafting then since i allready have about 300 copper and 300 zinc

[pliant crown]

but not crazy

i havent tested jewl crafting exp stuff personally

[gusty oracle]

it dosnt seem very useful but i feel i shoudl spend the resources iv gatherd to test something

[pliant crown]

so far scribe, arcane engineering, and weapon smith are 2k ores

and the armor crafting professions are matched

so either jewlcrafting will be like armor and be like 500-600 primary resource or 2k lol

makes me think carpentry is either 2k or 3k, i will only do a light test for that cause i dont feel like gathering 100 wood

[gusty oracle]

its not like trees are hard to find unlike everything els

its a shame i cant share or transfer stuff to alts

[forest fossil]

Need help, dont understand novice crafting. Trying to make the Zinc pauldrons, have the mats loaded, have the formula learned, have the coin... but the CRAFT button is dull, and says im missing components ? what am i missing

[pliant crown]

can you screenshot what it looks like

[forest fossil]

unable to craft, isufficient resources.

[pliant crown]

hmmmm the only thing i can think of is to try a different armor smith station [so another city [or that non city one]

everything else looks normal so i dont see why it wouldnt

[somber crown]

Do you have enough money?

[forest fossil]

Yes, more than enough coin

was excited to finnaly find some Zinc to mine, and now stumped again lol

[lyric vessel]

how do we get started with animal husbandry?

[somber crown]

What tier axe did you get this from? I’m hardly seeing any big increase using my rare axe

[cold gull]

so starting off gathering resources - you just run around for the small chance of seeing something you can gather/mine? make note of some spots or something?

[mystic zodiac]

rare too

but i had only heroic copper and rare wood when i made it

[crude shoal]

FYI, giant bluebell fibres have been nuked from the game it seems, you cant craft them anymore and all the fibres i had in my bag all got deleted

[pliant crown]

💀

well rip me getting to mess with that lol

[gusty oracle]

storage bug where it wont let you remove things from city storage untill you relog is annoying when there is a queue

[pliant crown]

oh yea i heard there was a queue on my server too

[lyric vessel]

for animal husbandry, do you have to hunt said animals first then take them to the station or?

[hybrid swan]

you will see animals that you cant kill among other just go up to them press F

go west of lionhelm there are some wolves normal some spawn there

then when have a wolve the train go to farm that will be animal husbadary

75silver

[sweet elk]

Theres no way to queue multiple crafts is there? (not processing, crafting)

[hybrid swan]

if only

[sweet elk]

okay 😄 ill keep chewing through these 100 boot crafts then lol

[mighty pilot]

I am the grand master now I haven't seen anyone else claim it so I am gonna go ahead and claim this first

[hybrid swan]

have you slept?

[mighty pilot]

A lot

[hybrid swan]

your just the person where do I get apprentice bow? been to all but New Aela towns

if you can remerbe that far back

?

[mighty pilot]

You're going to have to look at your server and see which town has the corresponding building.

[hybrid swan]

ok ta

[mighty pilot]

Find the cookhouse

[turbid ibex]

Well done @mighty pilot!!!!

[eager compass]

where can i find copper nodes and willow trees

[knotty halo]

Can Anyone tell me where to get a hunting certificate? I have found several npc's that give certificates but not the hunting one yet. Any advice would be very much appreciated.

[somber crown]

How is this even possible

Isn’t there a level limit you need to hit for all the different crafting tiers?

[balmy ingot]

Not at the moment

They have said that the vision is for crafting certifications to be toed to storylines which will push you up levels, but at the moment you can massively out-artisan your level

[somber crown]

Oh i didn’t know that

[rapid ridge]

Please change the job size in the crafting banks so that you can craft any size. For example, if I have 44 wood, I want to process it like that and not have to farm 6 more to get a stack of 50.

[gray glade]

Is there some kind of AH where I can buy profession materials I do not produce myself? Or will there be at some point?

[somber crown]

Player stalls in phase 2, AH is phase 3 according to the roadmap

[gray glade]

ah ok .. thanks

[somber crown]

I feel your pain though

Crafting just to sell to vendor for nothing is killing me

[gray glade]

actually makes it simple .. I will just go with gathering for now 😄 I had thought to go with related professions but still found stuff I don't plan on making

[somber crown]

Phase 2 should have a ton of the missing crafting content

You have novice in all. 5 in apprentice, 4 in journeymen, 3 in master, 2 in grand master

[gray glade]

That makes it even harder to decide .. but then it is an MMO so I should not try to do everything myself 😄

[cunning bolt]

Hey, just wondering. What Vendor is it that sells bee's wax?

[vagrant veldt]

The classic equipment vendor

[somber crown]

Hmm I think lumber?

[cunning bolt]

???

[somber crown]

Go to the materials tab

[cunning bolt]

oh.... I am blind Lmao

[vagrant veldt]

xD

[somber crown]

Happened to all of us lol

[digital seal]

how many of each level of artisan skills can you get? like i'm assuming you can only maximize like 2 or 3 artisan, but you'll need to be able to support the crafting so i'm guessing you can upgrade more at a lower level?

[grand mortar]

2 grandmaster, 3 master, 4 journeyman, 5 apprentice, rest is novice

and the grandmaster slots also occupy the other ones

so in practice you'll have to distribute your skills like 2 grandmaster, 1 master, 1 journeyman, 1 apprentice and the rest novice

[digital seal]

ty

[sinful crescent]

can someone please clarify something for me.. when it is stated that you need to be "level 10" for apprentice certificate for professions, do they mean character
level 10 or the actual profession at level 10?

[pliant crown]

profession level 10

[sinful crescent]

thank you!

[fallow apex]

Hey folks.

Just a novice farmer here.
What is the use of Mulch in the farming artisan? I haven't found a use for them yet. Same with daffodil and snowdrop thread in weaving.

What are those used for?

[errant carbon]

where do i go to craft a bow?

[digital seal]

etiquite school

[opaque gate]

what are the sources for essence crystal for alchemy?

[pliant crown]

material from npc

[opaque gate]

thank you!

[vague coyote]

whats the strat for sanctus emblems

did i fuck up getting my character to 25

[pliant crown]

kind of because you can buy 1 for 25 node currency but thats not realistic

would probably be better of leveling another character

[vague coyote]

yea

need so many for the cookhouse

lol

@pliant crown any suggestions for where to get them on an alt?

[zealous umbra]

How many Apprentice Bags can you carry at once?

[brittle wraith]

proof of existance

[zealous umbra]

fake

copper is a myth

only 1 batch pops in entire server

[tiny basalt]

Is hunting supposed to be rare?

[mystic zodiac]

3 bags of anything at the most

[zealous umbra]

thank you

[spare owl]

Hunting bag stack size only apply to the actual animal, not carcasses?

[opaque gate]

whats the going rate for legendary mats

[fallow apex]

Indeed. Not sure if that is the intended way or not. But currently the hunting bag only applies to the obtained animals, capable of being used at the animal husbandry station.
And not any of meat related variants.

[mystic zodiac]

same with mining bag not working with the fragments 😦

[tribal spoke]

Guys

[gusty oracle]

110 xp per copper or zinc ring (requires 6 ore each) so ye over 2k ore required

[rustic viper]

What's the point or benefit of selecting a different Storage Type at a Node? It seems the general provides far more slots than say a Wood Storage. And the Wood Storage does not provide extra stacking like our Satchels do

[mystic zodiac]

write a bug ticket, double big node right next to each other must be a bug

[potent parcel]

it holds larger stacks of that type

[rustic viper]

It doesn't, unfortunately 😦

[gusty oracle]

i think its supposed to

im just hoping you can put loads of storage in your house because... the warehouse doesnt have enough

[vagrant veldt]

@digital seal It's false, you can only have 5 jobs above novice :
2 GM
1 Master,
1 J
1 Apprentice
The confusion is made because they say that you can have 3 master, but in the 3 masters, you have 2 GM ...

[radiant dust]

I've been bulk crafting this flower thread and wood Warp to level Weaving, but does anyone know what this is actually used for?

[lone glacier]

wood warp makes carpentry bags

[stable oak]

Is there anything extra that we have to do to get a mount instead of a BoB? I've tried 7 times now and have only gotten beasts

Am I just really unlucky?

[tepid flax]

What crafting goes well with Bard?

[radiant dust]

Depends on your build, you could theoretically say that if your using light armor you shoudl go with weaving/tailoring. but theres nothign stopping you from building heavy armor bard either

[obsidian hound]

You are just really unlucky

[stable oak]

8 for 8 now

[woeful kestrel]

What is one supposed to use this for?

[woeful kestrel]

Also, has anyone been able to test whether their apprentice tools/gear lower the rarity of the harvested materials. I upgraded my lumberjack axe to apprentice and purchased the shirt/pants, and my weeping willow rarity improved, but T1 (oak, ash, western, etc...) mats received took a serious dive in quality. I've been curious to see if the apprentice gear only affect apprentice nodes and ignores the novice ones.

[untold mauve]

Dude that’s insane wow

[lyric vessel]

Success for copper

[deft vapor]

i feel ur pain im now on 4th wolf attempt

[vagrant veldt]

Just no luck I think. Anyway there is now way to prove that is really affects what you harvest ^^
Areas where you harvest influence the rarity of the component I think.

[mighty pilot]

[dense scarab]

where/how do you get the novice hunting bow?

[acoustic sandal]

See, people don't realize the difference between iron and copper isn't just green on the stone.

Look at how Sharp the actual Stone is.

Iron has a rounded stone

[untold mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[wet quarry]

Do all trees start off as small trees and grow into adult trees?

[cobalt dawn]

i mined 2 days and still doesn t feel like i am able to get any profesion to 10 🙂

[tribal spoke]

ye but from far its pretty simillar

[gusty oracle]

unless you have 2k copper heavy armor, weapons, jewlcrafting or arcane engineering to lvl 10 is out of the question

[autumn hamlet]

Anyone know how much tier 3 matierals vender for?

[cobalt dawn]

they will have to increase the xp per craft

[mystic zodiac]

a server has a journeyman station?

otherwise no one will be able to gather t3

[autumn hamlet]

Hmmm u cannot rank up without the station?

Thought you could rank up and it was just the tools you would be unable to make meaning you can still gather t3 no?

[mystic zodiac]

you can lvl up but that's it

you need the station to craft the tool and the vendor to promote your apprentice

[autumn hamlet]

There is some grandmaster people in here so im sure they can see t3 materials

Or have gathered some.

[mystic zodiac]

that's only the lvl I believe

[autumn hamlet]

Nah they have to have been promoted since says grandmaster

Meaning they can gather higher materials

[mystic zodiac]

haven't heard of any server with journeyman's building but I could very well be wrong

[grand mortar]

i specified that in the next message

[cobalt dawn]

bruh

show me something better 🙂

[bold sparrow]

I can't find copper for shit mannn

[sharp harness]

I swear copper is the hardest thing in the game to find

They need to fix the copper issue over 3 weekends I’ve been able to find enough copper to make 1 axe that’s it

[vagrant veldt]

@bold sparrow @sharp harness
#alpha-two-artisan-chat message

[sharp harness]

I’ve been doing that at gemspring for 2 days not 1 copper node has spawned

[bold sparrow]

idk they just need to implement something that replaces existing nodes that havent been mined (like iron)

[olive bobcat]

you cannot gather t3 materials without a journeyman tool.

[vagrant veldt]

Oh note that they broke a bit the respawn system this week-end, I waites 5 hours yesterday without seeing any rocks respawn

[olive bobcat]

it was broken from initial servers up until the patch. after that its been back to normal.

apparently rocks dont grow when its too windy

[flint sapphire]

I didnt find shit yesterday for 2 hours running around NA

Literally 1 copper node

Gave me 2 legendary tho

Not a scrap of zinc

[whole minnow]

ugh.. maybe if people left the road they would find copper/zinc/ruby or what ever they claim aint anywhere. im literally deleting/vendoring any of those under rare rank cuz i get so much. but also the only thing ive done the past 3 weeks ive been playing has been mining and some random woodcutting.

no joke my total copper is probably 1.5k by now

[vagrant veldt]

all depends on which server you are

[whole minnow]

yeah but then ur just to late to mine it urself. its stills pawning like everywhere for me , leave the roads and run around in the woods where there are some mountain shit/water and you will find. but they are kinda hard to notice since my auto pilot is ignoring iron nodes

also if it is a server issue cuz ur on a very active farming server you could always lvl char on some less populated server just to find and figure out where to run, but who knows next time servers are up the map might have changed 😂

[jade gale]

How does one make a boat?

[hybrid swan]

Demoting profession what happens to the tools you sweat hrs making?

[swift crest]

in a recipe like this, does the flux play a part in the quality of the outcome?

since flux is only common from vendors

[hybrid swan]

Think the fragments only makes the ranking of the output

it should say what rank you are going to make before you say go

[lucid knoll]

And why would u actually need to demote, is there a cap on how many professions u can have leveld up?

[hybrid swan]

yep some in game chat there is limit you can max up

[viscid mulch]

whats the most copper-efficient way to level weaponsmithing?

did anyone math that out yet?

[lucid knoll]

hmmm, think it would be good to mention it somewhere in professions description.

[flint perch]

any tips on how to get cooking recipes besides waiting for a cookhouse to be built?

[mighty pilot]

[silk plover]

daaayum

[ocean sparrow]

how do you make a custom caravan? like how do you piece it together?

[radiant dust]

what the freak is the daffodil and snowdrop thread used for

[reef delta]

Alchemy?

[rustic viper]

Where near Lionhold is there a Mining Foreman to upgrade skill?

[slow shoal]

bit late but here

[pliant crown]

oof

[vagrant veldt]

for weaving, which is needed for apprentice armorsmith a guy in my guild told me

[pliant crown]

too lazy to find my previous post, this assumes the ashescodex 40k exp per profession to lvl 10 is right

minimum costs novice 1 -> 10 (no shirt exp bonus since not all have it)
arcane engineering 2k copper, 250 ruby, 250 magic powder (copper focus)
weapon smith 2k copper, 250 oak wood (shield) [profit margin version with same exp is mace with 2004 copper, 167 oak, 167 basalt]
scribe 2k ruby, 400 magic powder (any craft, not pylons)
tailor 534 flax, 267 grem skin (feet or gloves)
leather working 234 grem skin, 267 cotton (feet or gloves)
armor smithing 534 zinc, 267 basalt, 267 grem skin (feet or gloves)

not personally tested
jewlcrafting but 110 exp per 6 ore craft = 2164 copper/zinc

[vague coyote]

thank u for this

[pliant crown]

oh yea going to add what person said about jewlcrafting

[vague coyote]

this is why bows are so good

you can level carpentry with just wood

lol

[pliant crown]

if i could make myself gather enough oak i'd be curious on its current numbers

[radiant dust]

I know its made via weaving, I have stacks on stacks of the stuff. But your saying its used in amorsmithing?

[fading stump]

anyone found more swiftclaw spawns at all?

[vagrant veldt]

A guy in my guild said he was blocked for t2 armorsmith and he needed a weaving t2

[last jacinth]

i am having this exact issue

i bug reported it

[woeful kestrel]

Anyone had this happen?

And these are for?

[vague coyote]

weird

[spiral field]

I thought exactly the opposite. After upgrading mine, I went on a huge string of only quality wood that went on for a while and now I'm back to gray all the time. They RNG seems to be somehwat streaky.

[fading stump]

i have recieved pristine heroic zinc, looks like theres different versions of stuff you can get now which might up the stats, gonna test once servers back up, the missing name one woulda been a new variant

[tame mortar]

so within each quality, there are additional variations?

[fading stump]

looks like it. its a new thing that snuck in or was there and just a very rare occurence

[chrome forge]

Well we have a full week now, so I want to see if I can get weapon/armorsmithing to Apprentice at least

[fading stump]

ive got AS to apprentice and until they fix the bluebell fiber / slate mold bug its a no go for actual apprentice armorsmith crafting

[vague coyote]

now i definitely will be making an alt to farm recipes and emblems

[chrome forge]

[vague coyote]

whats the bug

[fading stump]

they changed the recipe for the fibers to make it easier and now the actual recipe is gone , slate mortar recipe is missing the fiber material selection box thing as well so cant make the molds even with fibers

[vague coyote]

aw man

guys, does the bronze long spellbow recipe drop from highwaymen?

[fading stump]

yea quick easy fix on intrepids end just dont expect it till friday, maybe earlier now that servers are staying up

[chrome forge]

Well I guess I'll do Weaponsmithing/Jewelcrafting then and slowly do armorsmithing

[open vapor]

are all the lvl 10 + armor recipes dropped? Or is there a vendor I dont know about

[chrome forge]

Did anyone ever get a heavy helm receipe or is that still a myth?

[pure adder]

Has anyone gotten apprentice animal husbandry, from what I read and have tested, seems it will take ages and 200g to achieve.

[fading stump]

gold cost depends on the node taxes, but its like 100g ish at least

[inner gulch]

has ANYONE been able to get anything from the otherbearer nodes other than bear carcasses? im like 10/10 atm just carcasses with epic t2 bow

[tame mortar]

I wish I would get carcasses, got like 30 bears ready to train

[inner gulch]

im rolling in bear carcasses xD

[tame mortar]

😄

[inner gulch]

also im not sure apprentice epic bow is even doing anything for rarity chance. literally getting the same rate as i was before with base t2 bow

[tame mortar]

Right, I don't think all the stats are working yet, same goes for the other gathering tools

[gaunt gust]

How many people do we have that are apprentice weaponsmithing? Just curious. I farmed to app armorsmithing, but weapon smithing is a whole other beast.

[chrome forge]

If the copper spawn is truely fixed, then it'll be sooner than later

[placid bobcat]

I wonder about that I find it odd iron a higher ranked material is far easier to find then copper

[chrome forge]

That was my entire reasoning of leveling mining first, to mine to annoying ones out of the way to force respawns

and to sell them for easy money too 🙂

[vague coyote]

seems like it. dunno though

[faint jacinth]

2k copper da FUIK

[vocal plume]

it's possible yes, we got a single oath bearer mount on the server
do you mind sharing a screenshot of your hunting bow? would be interested in the stats

[vagrant veldt]

he is true chad, he only has the beginning one

[pliant crown]

gonna need over 4k ores

if you want to level both to 10

this doesnt include going from 10-20

[chrome forge]

Well we have a full week, so time to get started.

Found legendary tin already lol

[pliant crown]

i think its just unreasonable for 1-10

if character leveling took that long people would be complaining a lot

think of the processing time to cook 4k ores

[inner gulch]

okay so it must be insanely low drop chance if i had to guess

[vocal plume]

yea only got carcasses except that one time

[vocal plume]

tyvm!

[woeful kestrel]

That one is supposed to be Heroic Weeping Willow. The wood name just doesn't show up.

[vagrant veldt]

What do you mean by fixed ?

[pliant crown]

i have started seeing more ore when wandering around i think because people have given up on the crafting dream since a lot of it just kinda doesnt work/has issues/unreasonable to level

[vagrant veldt]

I tried all this week-end, but I don't know what they did on Arioch. Like there is no ore spawning at all (I cleared an entire zone, waited 1h30 - 2h to see only basalt respawn). Does this happens in your worlds too ?

[pliant crown]

i have personally not bothered because filling up 4 storages with ores to level a profession wasnt doing it for me lol

[chrome forge]

I'm seeing a wee bit more copper but I don't know if it's because I'm mining everything in sight or if it's because the ore rate increased.

[vagrant veldt]

Probably because you mine everything in sight. #alpha-two-artisan-chat message

[fair peak]

This may be a dumb question but where do i go to get a new pickaxe iv gotten 10 green copper and level 5 mining

[vagrant veldt]

There is no dumb question

You can build a novice pickaxe to a novice mining station

[chrome forge]

If you go north of briar farms there's a novice pickaxe table

[vagrant veldt]

In any node, you have a novice pickaxe mining station. There is a big table where you can interact with "Mining tool novice" and then you can see what you need to build a new pickaxe (10 copper, 10 oak timber, 1 basalt weapon or armor mold)

[chrome forge]

It's probably better to go for a rare pickaxe because I don't think uncommon gives mining exp bonus

[fair peak]

Gotcha tyty

i have yet to find rare or higher copper but i got lots of rubys that are high qual

[chrome forge]

Make a mining shirt with the ruby

[vagrant veldt]

don't bother for a novice pickage, uncommon is already pretty good

[cursive sphinx]

Please help - I am lvl 10 in herbalism, but where can I upgrade my certificate? Ingame, my level progress is showing a lock and says I should see the Herbalist Guild?

[chrome forge]

Try on the west side of lionhold across the river

[gusty oracle]

so it takes 740 ore to level metalworking from 1-10 but 2000 ore to level any relevant crafting skill 😦

[pliant crown]

yea armor crafting all 3 tiers are reasonable

the others seem to be unreasonable

havent tested carpentry but there is a lot of trees

so i expect its okay

[blazing field]

What's the street price of zink, copper & rubies? Server specific, ofc, but a rough estimate

And also pre-trained mounts😄

As in mounts that aren't yet mounts

[pliant crown]

i havent really been reading global chat but idk if anyone even sells ores, mounts depends on what creature but unsure if they will buy it since most of the cost is the rng husbandry

[drifting gust]

Depends on rarity. High quality ore is crazy expensive because it's rare and every guild wants it for gear.

[atomic cove]

Not a game breaker but has anyone been able to craft Slate Mortar for the last 2 days?

[vague coyote]

ive found 0 hits on ore sales.

0

everyone, for good reason, wants it for themselves

[pliant crown]

yea pretty much, i was able to exchange ore for ore once but that was when i thought scribe might be like 500-800 rubies lmao

[atomic cove]

I've sold plenty of ore, but the market seems to be looking at super high rarities now. (Heroic and above.) None of the lower rarities sell

[vague coyote]

definitely, everyone just wants the dope weapons

[pliant crown]

despite the dupes resna isnt really in a state to make level 10 gear so i can make fancy level 1 gear for fun lol

[floral yarrow]

any one nows ho to make aprentic axe ?

[pallid jolt]

do we have numbers for the % chance increase for rarity of gathering mats per gathering level? Same for processing?

[tepid flax]

Can i assume Flax doesnt grow in Winter?

[vagrant veldt]

It does grow

[tepid flax]

Hmm, me being blind then. thanks

[gusty oracle]

so metalworking apprentice.... got to lvl 10 apprentice each craft gives 60xp doesn't matter if its charcoal that requires 3 oak or brass ingots that require 2 tin and 1 copper

[pliant crown]

well thats one way to grind a profession

[gusty oracle]

only 6k oak to get from lvl 10 to lvl 20 metalworking

[pliant crown]

that is a lottt of wood

but compared to the metal cost

[gusty oracle]

on the bright side it sells for 80 copper and only costs 30 copper to craft so easy money

[pliant crown]

actual profitable processing how unsual

thats what 1000 gold to get to 20 if you npc all the crafted wood?

[pliant crown]

wanted to also mention just from a quick test the processing exp scroll appears to work since when i use it it shows in my UI

the uhh 27 exp rating, probably get more from apprentice scroll from npc

[gusty oracle]

i dont really understand the xp rating as its not true xp

[pliant crown]

its probably a graph of like how when you get say 50 crit rating it shows you what the % chance is

[rancid minnow]

Any armor and weapons you can get, i have no been playing this game much at all

[gusty oracle]

doesnt work still only get 60 xp at with a scroll that gives 65xp rating

[wet sequoia]

what's the best way to start lvling mining?

[dire basin]

question for the artisans here, how do you start doing weaponsmithing or smithing in general? i have ores I've collected, i go to the station, select the thing i want to create, click "add fuel" and then the menu says i have nothing to put in even though i i do and the previous screen indicates that i have the required items.

or am i misunderstadning something?

[vagrant veldt]

you mine everything you see that you can mine (basalt, granite, coper, zinc, ruby). You craft a better pickaxe at mining novice station and you keep digging ^^

[vagrant veldt]

You need wood as fuel

[dire basin]

yeah I just realized that, thanks for clarifying XD im an idiot.

[wet sequoia]

is there a good place to find all that?

[chilly cape]

easternNew Aela is good

[swift crest]

xp = base xp / 320 * xp rating + base xp

roughly

[vagrant veldt]

every ore is everywhere on the map. Ruby is a bit rare. Copper and zinc are really rare. Each ore respawn in a random spot on the map so you can clear a zone, wait for te respawn, so you have better chance to get rare ores

[vagrant veldt]

check this : https://ashescodex.com/map
You hide all and then you show the basalt and granite locations

So here's a good spot to find ores 😆

If you want a better explanation of the ore respawn, check this #alpha-two-artisan-chat message

[dire basin]

can you use green level ingrediants in a recipe to get green level items? or do you need a recipe to use specifically green ingrediants to get better items?

[vagrant veldt]

You cna use whatever you want. Better rarity gives better items 😉

[dire basin]

id hoped that was how it was. great!

[vagrant veldt]

Just don't overthink and go try things, you will see, it's a lot more fun than overthinking ^^

[dire basin]

now i just have to find eveything

[chilly cape]

How do we current get blackberry…farming?

[wet swift]

are artisan tools going to be tradable at some point?

[pliant crown]

i believe black berry seed is from node general equipment npc, get some poop from animals and do the farming

also update for scribe

if you got like 70 free gold to spend you can level scribe to level 10 with 400 rubies instead of 2k rubies

[desert skiff]

Does larch ever grow into an adult tree...

nothing but adolescent trees like everywhere and I have never seen one grow to adult

[chrome forge]

Bronze ingot comes from apprentice metal working right?

[pliant crown]

ye

i am pretty confident it is

[chrome forge]

Alright, I found some tin and want to make a giga pickaxe

[desert skiff]

too bad the hemlock plank recipe is borked

[mystic zodiac]

yeah copper+tin

[mystic zodiac]

unfort the mold is bugged so we cant craft it

and its needed for the apprentice pickaxe with t2 mats

[chrome forge]

[ocean sparrow]

crashed during caravan deploy and now it says im trying to deploy in the wrong node. anyone have this issue?

[tepid notch]

How long does it take for nodes to respawn?

[mystic zodiac]

30-45mins i think

[tepid notch]

Ty

[verbal stone]

where does one find zinc? I haven't been able to find any

[cyan canyon]

Anyone here who can help me with the location of the tamable Kirin?

[merry grove]

does anyone know a good place with a lot of weeping willow?

[merry grove]

it's spread all over but usually close to big rocks in the terrain

[pliant crown]

i made post about my exp rates finding, i hope it sounds right in explaining the issues i find with it

https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/64071/crafting-exp-rates/p1?new=1

was reminded that progression was listed as a core concept of phase 1

'scalability, performance, stability, and progression' are what was listed so i was like well may as well put some of these thoughts down

[hybrid stirrup]

anyone using legendary pickaxe/lumberjack axe apprentice? Curious what stats might be

[deft sorrel]

You can check the stats on Ashes Codex

[lime raptor]

Is there a cargo value sheet somewhere?

[deft sorrel]

No, but I can tell you from personal experience doing any commodities over uncommon brings decreasing gains in gold. I believe the rates are bugged

[serene wharf]

When crafting, Does it always craft to be the lowest level of mats used? Or is there a sweet spot for rarity %

[deft sorrel]

There is a chance to proc, but only if you have the proper gear otherwise if you want an uncommon item use all uncommon mats, etc

[serene wharf]

gathering mats for first app Pick, so trying to see how high i can get it with what ive got

[lime raptor]

I heard some locations were bugged. Which run did you do?

[deft sorrel]

Went to Joeva from Winstead

Got like 7 gold for an epic whereas I would have made a minimum of 12 with just uncommons

[lime raptor]

I see!

[potent parcel]

Y’all are lucky you don’t get ganked by a squad when they see your caravan

[deft sorrel]

[potent parcel]

Eh some people in the server are haters, wouldn’t be surprised if he is an anvil member

[deft sorrel]

If you have an easy way in, might just want to drop guild for the day and run caravans. People may be targeting you because of your affiliation

[steep current]

Jesus lol what is Amnesty so infamous for

[vast carbon]

Very good post. Would answer on forum but i dont know why i cant make post:) I would add that Legend lvl 0 item is same like lvl 10 common quality. It means it is pointless to make high quality lvl 0 items. It would be better that 0lvl item with epic quality would be better than lvl 10 common or even green then it could have sense of doing it. In such dovetailing is implemented in Albion Online for example.

[vague coyote]

nice post

[waxen rock]

So I have a question, can we actually craft Legendary or Epic lvl 10 items? Like for example I craft a Forsaken Blades Spellbook with all Epic mats, this means that there's a good chance the item is also Epic grade quality as well, and way better than anything mobs can drop?

[cursive sphinx]

@vast light We need sub channels for artisan. Questions are drowning because of high traffic 😄 Either make channels for each or a sub cathegory, please

[jolly smelt]

In that case, you'd want to tag Community Managers (Roshen, Nyx or Vaknar), they are the ones who can help with this!

[cursive sphinx]

I never found the "Herbalism guild" where I can upgrade my herbalism to apprentice. Anyone knows where it is?

[cursive sphinx]

Changed the tag to Vaknar - thanks for replying

[empty igloo]

Yes. If you craft weapon with all materials as epic the end result will be epic. If you mix rarities like half epic and half rare then end result is between like heroic. Crafting screen shows end result rarity before you commit to it.

[crude shoal]

You can get better than what you put in if you have 'quality rating' for the craft you are doing

Rare grem skin, rare cotton, 9 legendary linen thread, 1 epic linen thread and I made a legendary tailoring shirt

I did already have 20 quality rating from the epic version

But this does only apply to the crafting artisan professions

[mystic zodiac]

(an edit wont ping them)

[ionic heron]

So, for example, If I wanna craft it with ; 1 common essence, 1 rare bear hide, 1 uncommon slate, 2 legendary bronze lingot, if the crafter has the good shirt and a bit of luck, I could maybe expect an heroic craft ?

[crude shoal]

Theoretically yes

Don't know exactly how much quality rating that would need but it could happen

[ionic heron]

All right, thanks for the answer

[crude shoal]

The good shirts need tanning, weaving, lumber milling and smelting materials tho so there might not be many good shirts around.

https://ashescodex.com/db/item/Gear_Artisan_Armorsmithing_Shirt_T2

[cursive sphinx]

@vast light We need sub channels for artisan. Questions are drowning because of high traffic 😄 Either make channels for each or a sub cathegory, please

[acoustic sandal]

Make channels for the artisan buildings. Not for each profession. Here is what I have put together to organize my guild into their places.

[tame iris]

Will copper and zinc distributions be fixed? Cuz it’s so hard to find even one.

[wooden canyon]

Is there a way to get green ink yet ??

[waxen rock]

Oooh nice, I thought it was more or less RNG

[ionic heron]

Ty, but fishing is attached to cookhouse, isn't it ?

[acoustic sandal]

I will check in game when I get home. Or someone can check by pressing [N]

[nova remnant]

It’s the agriculture supplier accross the river west of lionhold. It says he is a supplier but he is a trainer/specialist. herbalism apprentice certification location.

[ionic heron]

🙂

[acoustic sandal]

Thank you 😊

It's literally just fishing poles and gear isn't it?

[ionic heron]

I think but I'm not sure, i'm quite confused with the crafting system atm haha

[acoustic sandal]

Which part? I did a deep dive earlier

[ionic heron]

I mean like quite confused with all the relation between every artisan each other haha

That's why I appreciate your document u shared, it helps 🙂

[acoustic sandal]

That's why I went to the buildings

[nova remnant]

Cookhouse also sells better vendor food, better than salads

[acoustic sandal]

I was like. . . I don't want to rely on 1 person doing alchemy when I do Arcane engineering

[ionic heron]

Yep

[violet jolt]

anyone able to create slate mortar? Keeps being greyed out

[crude shoal]

Slate mortar is bugged

It's meant to have giant bluebell fibers but they got nuked from the game

You can't craft them and the icon got removed from the mortar recipie

[steel nebula]

to craft an bronze ingot, I really have to lvl my Metalworking profession up to lvl 10? o.o

[cobalt patrol]

Indeed

[steel nebula]

alrighty

[candid ridge]

anyone else not able to equip cooking apprentice clothes?

[toxic sonnet]

Hrm, Has anyone experienced trouble in advancing Carpentry to Apprentice? After multiple attempts to do so, including relogging, doing more xp in the craft, restarting the game, etc., the woodshop foreman still stands mutely when I request to move from novice->apprentice.

[crude shoal]

I'm guessing you already have 5 apprentice artisan skills

[swift crest]

ugh, made it

[wooden canyon]

What did you craft and how much copper ? x)

[swift crest]

combination of copper focus and sanctus wands

and way too much

i did it without trading or a guild. just solo'd everything, so its possible

well that's a lie, i traded for some sanctus emblems, that was the bottle neck

[grand mortar]

How are you guys obtaining apprentice tools? Trading within the guild or building it yourself?

[lime rock]

Are slate molds broken for anyone else?

[crude shoal]

Yep, they are meant to require bluebell fibre but the fibre got removed with Saturdays update. All the ones I had crafted got deleted and they can't be crafted any more at the apprentice weaving station.

Bug report it!

[lime rock]

[crude shoal]

Yup, no journeyman pickaxe, lumberaxe or herbalism tools either.

[wooden canyon]

Is sanctus wand cheaper than focus ?

[swift crest]

its 12 zinc vs the focus which is 8 copper

but like, the choices are limited. never found a zinc focus recipe even though the codex says it exists

the experience per metal is the same tho

[thorn sky]

How broken is arcane engineering recipes ? Lumber milling stacks of 250 wood eat in reality 5 to 6 HUNDRED. 8 to 9 stacks of 62 for one 250 work order, So avoid that MAJOR BUG

[toxic sonnet]

yuppers, that was the problem. Thanks @crude shoal

[steel nebula]

which artisan skills are recommended to lvl up to apprentice?

[crude shoal]

You should level those that you enjoy

As a solo player you will never be able to get a fully completed craft I don't think. There may be some exceptions but the vast majority need more apprentice professions than you can do yourself.

[gusty oracle]

Currently... just wait till Dec 20th befor doing any attempts at lvling crafting. Unless you are specifications testing xp and stuff

[crude shoal]

If you take into account the gathering and processing

Take a look at what buildings your server has and what you think will be needed to get you the most progress. Is that selling raw materials or processing things you buy from others?

[inner gulch]

anyone know what the hunting respawn timer is? seems to be really long now compared to last weekend

[crude shoal]

There are no 'best' proffessions

[steel nebula]

Hmm, so trading is pretty much required. To focus on one specific type of artisan, for example Lumberjacking and Lumber Milling might be smart tho, no?

[crude shoal]

Yes. There are definitely professions that complement each other.

But if you don't like the tree cutting experience, lumber probably isn't the right one for you.

Play around, test it out

[tribal lotus]

Around 5 minutes it seems. It was too short of a time before, now it’s too long, lol

[crude shoal]

But even if you do got lumber, you won't be able to make most of the carpentry stuff yourself as it's going to require ingots from metal working, thread from weaving ect

[inner gulch]

are you sure? i checked crocs for over an hour yesterday and saw zero spawns

[crude shoal]

As there is a big community focus when it comes to crafting.

[tribal lotus]

Not sure about higher lvl animals, just for novice animals. Could be longer for different ones.

[gusty oracle]

I think in phase 2 I'm gonna mostly just do 4 journeyman mining, metalworking, stone Mason, maybe ither weapon Smith or armour Smith. And maybe herbalism to apprentice

[steel nebula]

Got it! Thanks for your answers c: Will play around a bit and find out myself!

[crude shoal]

No problem. Enjoy!

For reference, I'm going to be doing wood cutting, herbalism, lumber milling, weaving and tailoring. As tailoring needs the processed materials from weaving and lumber milling

I then have a friend doing mining, stonework, metal working, hunting and tanning.

Together we can make apprentice tailoring and armour items

So it's 4 apprentice gathering and 4 apprentice processing to get the materials for 2 apprentice crafts.

[steel nebula]

Aight, makes sense. I‘ve been very enjoying mining so for too due to the randomness of how all ores spawn. Might be going into that direction. Cooking is also quite attractive cause request will certainly be there and might be even the best way to make monies.

[crude shoal]

If you want to do some digging ashes codex has the recipes and those show what is needed for each craft.

[pliant crown]

legendary copper is weaker than common stuff but legendary sanctus weapons are able to lead slightly into lower tier level 10 gear

[pliant crown]

nice but not worth getting over 2k ores for even with mixing it between copper and zinc like you can with jewlery

least you can make level 10 gear for newer people who arent already 20+ on your server if anyone has recipees for you

[pliant crown]

also as far i know might be world first arcane engineering lol

[gusty oracle]

Looking at the math it's just not worth it especially when we wipe in Dec and 1/2 the crafting stuff isn't in the alpha yet

[hybrid swan]

dam spawn rate of copper couldnt get epic of legendary but still v happy

[inner gulch]

man im fed up with hunting. so few spawns that are being camped on CD by 5+ crafters at every worthwhile spot. rarity inc from bow doesnt work, and spawn timers went from <5 misn to 45 mins

[hybrid swan]

dont say that just made a good one

🙂

[inner gulch]

sorry...but it seemst o be bugged atm

hopefully they can fix it, but spent since last sat with epic bow and zero noticeable difference in rarity over 100s of tames

[hybrid swan]

its alpha it will be sorted in the end so many thing in crafting needs to be sorted

[inner gulch]

might just say screw it and chill with the boys on pve and pvp the rest of the wipe with the state of professions

[hybrid swan]

No bait or trap added option not in game

[violet jolt]

imo they should have disabled artisan at all in this phase. Its beyond broken and only brings frustration

[vague coyote]

very cool

nice

[flint sapphire]

Are all recipes common rarity?

[vague coyote]

hey guys, anyone seen any alchemy recipes?

am i high or what

they dont seem to exist

[hybrid swan]

aye the lowest rarity of item take that colour

[vague coyote]

frankly pvp is just kinda whatever with the state of the servers lol

[hybrid swan]

was going to use 2 legendary western larch but picket up 5 on the way to work station

[vague coyote]

the tickrate cant even keep up with basic mechanics like roll jumping

[flint sapphire]

So even if the recipe is common rarity, if i use all legendary mats ill get a legendary ya?

[hybrid swan]

yep

[flint sapphire]

Sweet

Ty

[vague coyote]

crafting has massive problems for sure. but its still very OP

like bro

[flint sapphire]

Yeah its pretty nuts

[vague coyote]

ive farmed for like an inconceivable number of hours

[flint sapphire]

Theyll have to adjust the scaling

[vague coyote]

and what u think my gear is?

im level 25 btw

[hybrid swan]

Shame Dagner says it isnt in gamer but that should be easy fix fingers crossed

[vague coyote]

because i LOST EVERY SINGLE ROLL

crafting is godlike

[inner gulch]

pvp with groups and guild war decs has been fun to do with the mates. exp debt sucks but just limits how many times you throw yourself against a better group if you know its gona fail

[flint sapphire]

Same, got a hand me down green lv 10 sword from a guildy and the rest is ashen haunt and white gear lol

[vague coyote]

i dont mind 8v8s, 3v3s etc

[flint sapphire]

And i only recently started getting ashen haunt drops

[vague coyote]

its fine, but its not great

the servers suck like

[inner gulch]

we have epic/legendary/heroic t2 hunting bow between our hunters in guild and all the same for us

[vague coyote]

the servers cannot keep up with bard mechanics at all, when i watch on someone elses screen what im doing, im just teleporting w bullshit non stop

[flint sapphire]

I found a recipe for a steel ring yesterday that gives 13 power and something else idr

[vague coyote]

yea. it can easily happen to anyone

i was even in a consistent group, and we farmed really well together

my weapons are 'ok', but everything else is just bad.

[worldly hedge]

I was curious if there was something going on with the crafted items. Crafted a Heroic Lumber Axe with Quality and Quantity upgrade and after cutting down 100 trees noticed only 2 gave uncommon quality and 1 gave rare, no heroic, epic or legendary.

[crude shoal]

Where were you chopping the trees?

[inner gulch]

hmmm i havent had any issues with this, even last night in carphin with a 40 sized raid and multiple groups farming simulataneously i was able to get my bard abilities off on time

[worldly hedge]

I was working with Western Larch and Eastern Hemlock north of Halcyon and then South of New Aela

[crude shoal]

Cause there seems to be a base underlying 'level' of the area that you are in that is represented by the mob level.

Currently it seems that if you are logging in an area without mobs that level either doesn't exist or is 0

And the level is the multiplier for rarity

That's the best way I can explain it

[worldly hedge]

I see, yeah down by New Aela there was not a whole lot of mobs in the area, up North there were a couple stragglers

[crude shoal]

If you chop trees by high level mobs you will get better results

Same with all gatherables from my experience.

[hybrid swan]

Just reported bug dont move items in bag at same time gathering items say chopping tree it messes UI in game nothing move in bag and chopping doesnt show what you chopped

[vague coyote]

the abilities go off fine for me client side. server side, what OTHER people are doing, is almost never fine

and im on fiber, and relatively close to the servers

[tacit nebula]

is there a place to buy/acquire apprentice level tools?

[glacial helm]

I'm struggling for enthusiasm to get back to work on artisanship. It is so not fun right now, for any of the item creation professions. I think the problem is the processing, it really doesn't have the thrill of gathering, finding a rare commodity, or the thrill of crafting, getting the set of ingredients, it is just work and a time delay, with no real upside. Maybe they have to add a drop while processing or something?

[vague coyote]

the upside is you can make huge progress while doing something else

[woven stone]

what the heck are Arcane Engineers suppsoed to do? All the recipes are borked or cost 20 copper each

[vague coyote]

our only solution has been trading our asses off

[glacial helm]

Not sure that is as much of a benefit as you made it sound. Are you in sales?

[woven stone]

do pylons still give exp?

[vague coyote]

of course it is, processing xp is afk, you can go level up/gather/whatever
gathering proper rarity mats is the actual bottleneck

[glacial helm]

Yeah but the processing requires extra gathering. Indirectly, you spend longer in the gathering bottleneck, because of processing.

[vague coyote]

you DIRECTLY spend by far the most amount of time with gathering

even if you could teleport directly to every ore node on repeat, it would still take you an insane number of hours to get what you need

[hybrid swan]

anyone know whats needed for apprentice pickaxe? save me going all over there and back to lionhelm for main bank?

[inner gulch]

find the appropriate building (ie fishing and hunting are cookhouse) at the appropriate node for your server

can only make tools, cant buy them directly

[glacial helm]

But the more stuff that you have to gather of the same rarity, exponentially increases gathering frustration. It actually detracts from gathering. Also I now have to carry around 4 different rarities of everything in my packs, vastly increasing death risk. It has to change. Alchemy that has no interim processing step is going pretty well. There are master alchemists about!

[hybrid swan]

Most times I just sell all green and below item or process 50 then sell. If running out of space I just dont pick it up and move on and leave it on ground, bet that make the server annoyed will data left on floor

[glass magnet]

the fact that Slate armour molds takes so much is insane

[hybrid swan]

think it will be rebalanced as so alpha setup atm

[glacial helm]

Yeah, so does everyone, but I just don't get the attraction of processing. There is no game in it, no intrinsic gain. It seems only there as a time sink, and making artisanship more difficult, and for making one person unable to craft from beginning to end, at end game. It is all investment risk and no reward. You just have to do it, because you have to do it. No other reason. Seems like bad game design? I really think that they need a drop, or a way of improving quality or something so playing processing has some reward. How you do that and keep the economy tight is a challenge though.

[gusty oracle]

I think the main issue is 1/2 the systems for crafting and processing aren't in place yet

Still waiting on skill trees, dismantle items, experimentation and a load of other stuff

[glacial helm]

Yeah but we are talking levels 1-10. When people can do everything with free tools. It really shouldn't be this hard to get started. If they really put gear in the hand of artisans, then how will we supply decent levelling gear for the adventurers?

[pliant crown]

i kinda of am in the 'not feeling confident' about their ideas for crafting system camp

[gusty oracle]

I agree things need tweeking but I think Steven said in an interview artisan is bare bones at the moment and not the focus of the test

They will have collected plenty of data during phase 1 to help them balance things and with a larger map resources will be a little easier to gather

[glacial helm]

Progression is part of the test. And they have to sort this out before they add the economy in Phase2. If it takes 3 months to level crafting, no one is going to craft until they get to max adventuring level. That will screw up the game.

[pliant crown]

trying to test economic stuff without the foundation for crafting sounds like a mess

can work out but wont be the best way to handle it

[mint wagon]

anyone know if this is by design. I noticed that for husbandry that yoou have two options to select now Beast of Burden and Mount. Even when I select mount and add the resources (item + fuel) it seems that it is still random what gets crafted. Is this intended to still be random?

[gusty oracle]

I have faith in then but hopefully we will see more in Wednesdays livestream

[grand mortar]

yea, i think a lot of problems we are facing right now will be addressed at the live stream

or at least mentioned

[inner gulch]

You don't select the option, that's just how you preview what each one is. It's still a 50/50 for beast or mount

[pliant crown]

as i said in my forum post im not confident because the changes they have done to crafting and gathering has just been nerfs outside of the 'increased t1 ore spawns' from like week 1

im hopeful just not feeling confident

[mint wagon]

Thank you for the clarification I am super unlucky 3 bears and all three beast of burden - I just want a fuzzy bear mount lol

[cold gull]

is there a good 'getting started' guide anywhere that folks like?

[woeful thicket]

Anyone tried leveling jewelery crafting and how exactly am i meant to do it, ive used 5 stacks of copper crafting rings and i didnt even get a single level? Am i missing something?

[cold gull]

I've never even seen 5 stacks of copper. I'd be mad

are resources like New World, where they are static 'hotspots' that I need to google or watch youtube to see where they are, versus running around discoverying stuff?

[glacial helm]

I don't think Steven appreciates how hard it is going to be to make crafting fun and economically sound. I feel like he thought the hard part would be making it economically sound, whereas I think the priority should be making it fun/rewarding first.

[gusty oracle]

Unless you have 2k ore ither copper or zinc don't bother

[woeful thicket]

yeah seems kinda impossible right?

[tame mortar]

Its not suppose to be quick, not now, not later

[gusty oracle]

Ye thats just from lvl 1-10

[cold gull]

man you better get 'the one ring' from that

[vague coyote]

do alchemy recipes drop anywhere?

or naw?

[gusty oracle]

No but knowing it wipes on 20 Dec kinda takes the motivation away

[tame mortar]

np, plenty of other things in the game

[gusty oracle]

Not the one ring but maybe 400 really bad rings

[woeful thicket]

if it was possible to make it to level 10 you can craft some good stuff

[glacial helm]

There is a difference between quick and time-consuming.

[tame mortar]

with all due respect, you have been complaining about a mechanic in the game that is not finished for the past hour. Spend your time on something else for the rest of the test

[whole minnow]

i mean why not start it just to get a feeling what to make and prio so you dont go in blind wasting mats on stuff you dont need after the december 20 wipe and launch.

right now its probably not worth the time unless you have several stacks of made copper/zinc frags just sitting in the bank, not like u gonna make much more progress spending them in some other prof. but yeah jewelery probaby is one of the least exp per mats used cuz you need so much just to craft 1 item that barely give any exp

[glacial helm]

With all due respect none of the mechanics are finished.

[woeful thicket]

thing is hes being for real when he says 2k copper, i used 100 and couldnt get to level 2

seems like a major oversight

[cobalt patrol]

You are thinking they are final numbers?

[cold gull]

Last MMO i played was the first two years of Asheron's Call where you grinded (ground?) for weeks and weeks for materials, and the higher level you get, the more chance of failure for the ultra-uber stuff. We would have guild members gather and gather and gather and contribute to the best crafter with fingers crossed - many times just having it all destroyed and starting over. BUT - if it worked, you had the best thing in the game, period. I don't have a problem with all the time sink if you get something exceptional.

[glacial helm]

If they are it is game-breaking. I really doubt it. Intrepid are professionals. I'm complaining but I'm trying to be constructive with it. I don't want them to have to wipe a lot in phase2 to test crafting progression, so it keeps pace with adventuring.

[whole minnow]

yeah i mean 1 ring/neck takes 6 fragments aka 6 coppers , later u need to combine different fragments for 1 fragment you probably need 6 of. im starting it myself since i have mats for legendary ring right now but i also have many mats to use right now and i keep getting more ea day

[woeful thicket]

i have mats for level 10 legendary rings but noones getting to level 10 in the current state

im bringing this up as feedback not complaining as i cant seem to see anything else on the topic

[minor falcon]

I do think (hope) when they say we're testing progression in this wave it's significantly more focused on leveling and the process of doing things. I really do not think much thought has gone into crafting progression at this point and the focus was on combat...hoping

[vague coyote]

we leveled it to 10 last night
its not 2k copper for arcane engineering

but for the others, im not sure

[woeful thicket]

you leveled jewelery to level 10?

[whole minnow]

main thing for me this phase before its wiped is to figure out what profession to focus and what raw mats to turn into something i need. been doing a lot of blindly crafting random mats cuz my bank space is very limited. much shit i cant even use to gain exp since my server doesnt have the building made and wont before servers gets wiped.

[vague coyote]

we have a level 10 jeweler

already

[woeful thicket]

may i ask how

[vague coyote]

its a guild process, its not an individual process

[cold gull]

yeah like the old AC days

[woeful thicket]

so everyone is pooling mats?

[vague coyote]

of course, we are working together constantly, there is no other way to do it

[woeful thicket]

other skills are different so didnt seem intended

[vague coyote]

and i think thats the intention. but i do agree that crafting needs to be tuned

[whole minnow]

no it doesnt , action house and longer play periods will even it out

dont expect to get a profession up to high level in some weeks lol

[vague coyote]

its a contentious topic
theres a lot of varied opinions

[glacial helm]

That is what I am worried about, but if this is a game for the big guilds and they don't allow for the solo player at all, the servers will be empty.

[vague coyote]

I personally lean towards it being fine tha crafting is hard. but I could see some tuning happening

[vague coyote]

I wouldnt say you need a 'big guild'
we have like 40 people on the server

and some arent really crafting much
but you definitely need cooperation

and you also gotta be willing to hunt for trades

[pliant crown]

what did you make that it wasnt 2k copper?

[vague coyote]

pylons

[pliant crown]

what

[inner gulch]

Solo players can still interact with the game it will just be harder. Why wouldn't you want to join a guild in an MMO like ashes tho? This isn't designed around being solo friendly

[pliant crown]

they gave 0 exp

[vague coyote]

must have been a bug

for you

thats rough

[pliant crown]

they specifically removed it in recent patch too

i didnt see before patch

so i was like well thats weird

[vague coyote]

yeah idk. we used pylons

the game is so cooked LOL

its hard to find consistency in anything

[pliant crown]

so that was a bug for pylons that it gave exp

[vague coyote]

you're not supposd to get experience from crafting pylons...?

[pliant crown]

i thought they were just reiterating it in the patch ntoes, not that it was giving

[vague coyote]

oh

so it was a phrasing thing

[gusty horizon]

YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS

[vague coyote]

yeah i think our ignorance helped us here, i wasn't aware there was an issue w pylons

[pliant crown]

also for your question on the alchemy apprentice stuff, according to ashes codex only 2 recipees exist the rest are not in the game

i will double check this past weeks notes to make sure im not miss remembering

[vague coyote]

the problem though, is that the pylons dont seem to work at all for us.

so they're legit vendor trash

that clog your inventory

[hybrid stirrup]

I haven’t started crafting but processed ummm probably 300 copper over the last couple days and got to apprentice metalworking

How much does arcane take to get level 10?

[pliant crown]

arcane engineering 2k copper, 250 ruby, 250 magic powder (copper focus)
weapon smith 2k copper, 250 oak wood (shield) [profit margin version with same exp rate is mace with 2004 copper, 167 oak, 167 basalt]
scribe 2k ruby, 400 magic powder (any craft, not pylons) (can do guild scroll recipe for 400 rubies and like 70 gold)
tailor 534 flax, 267 grem skin (feet or gloves)
leather working 534 grem skin, 267 cotton (feet or gloves)
armor smithing 534 zinc, 267 basalt, 267 grem skin (feet or gloves)

not personally tested carpentry or jewlcrafting, but informed of exp from crafts for jewlcrafting being

jewlcrafting 110 exp per 6 ore craft = 2164 copper/zinc

if pylons are supposed to give exp they would be most effecient for arcane engineering

i couldnt find the note in recent patch so maybe it was 2 weeks ago

[vague coyote]

if pylons WORKED, they would be pretty great

[hybrid stirrup]

Xp craft scroll should give a little

[vague coyote]

the specific xp craft scrolls have not worked for me. the general ones did though

[hybrid stirrup]

Half of what pylon does?

[pliant crown]

novice exp crafting scroll doesnt work atm, its also really small

[hybrid stirrup]

Got it

[deep wolf]

None of the exp crafting scrolls worked for me.

[pliant crown]

some of the specific crafting exp scrolls from appretice work

[glacial helm]

It isn't that I don't want to join a guild at max level, but what if I want to be a citizen of a divine node and the guild wants to be on an economic node, or the guild has too many tailors or healers already. I don't really want to be part of a guild that limits my progression, when progression is my priority. Particularly when that is a 3 month process and you have no idea, if the "Guild Commune" is going to survive.

[hybrid stirrup]

See I haven’t done any craft was trying to see what’s worth it

[pliant crown]

but most dont

[hybrid stirrup]

Maybe I just do armor crafting

[pliant crown]

i would say it isnt worth it other than the armor professions for experiencing the system

and even then they need quite a lot for novice to apprentice

[deep wolf]

Weapon crafting needs tuning so bad

[hybrid stirrup]

Have about double the zync compared to copper

[pliant crown]

if you want my full thoughts 😏 https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/64071/crafting-exp-rates/p1?new=1

so for the ore shortage an easy fix is to make processing like tanning, where everything gives x5

[elder peak]

salvaging could also help

[hybrid stirrup]

I mean getting rid of journeyman deposits

Or making them disappear after x amount of time,

I assume every deposit can be any metal?

[deep wolf]

Copper only bad one. Exp rate needs to scale based on material

[hybrid stirrup]

But once it’s on a journeyman deposit it just gets stuck

And can’t mine it just to open up the deposit to maybe be copper

At least that’s how a few other games I did their deposits

Also farming grem skin is pretty awful

[pliant crown]

there is a lot of throttles and time sinks in the current crafting system that i do not think crafting 200-300 items should be the 'way'

[hybrid stirrup]

If they had a chance to drop off the mobs it would feel a little better, or make it give 5 for a carcas like 5 hides from bear/wolf carcass

[pliant crown]

outside lionhold just mass murder grems they will respawn as gatherables sometimes

[whole minnow]

like you are talking about changing the way they made it when it mainly a node problem right now cuz i bet most of us who been farming only are on a server where nobody can make journeyman tools to clear the blocking shit away..
myself im running around with a lvl apprentice mining pick at mining level 35 or something..

also its either a bad route ur doing or you or other ppl aint clearing what ever they can for respawns

[inner gulch]

Join a guild as you level. That way you can get to know them before hand

[whole minnow]

wait for wipe and a couple month in when we have the artisan tools to do shit lol

[hybrid stirrup]

I mean I’ve done it, it’s just kinda crazy lol. I figured it took 800 for apprentice Lw so 530 whatever is more reasonable

[hybrid stirrup]

Artisan tools only really help with rarity

If I had bigger bags that would be nice

[pliant crown]

yea the scaling of the professions when they also want you to work on node progression is extremely wack

[whole minnow]

bro like 30% of the shit in my route is journeyman spawns nobody can pick cuz we dont have the journeyman tools

[hybrid stirrup]

Yes yes

I agreee with you there

[whole minnow]

if someone could clear those and they would clear it as well this aint a problem

[hybrid stirrup]

And I think it’s holding back those deposits from being something else I feel

[whole minnow]

if you clear everything you can as well i should say

[hybrid stirrup]

(Like copper)

I re read what you said and ya

I hear you

[pliant crown]

in just ore gathering time its about 1hr of pure sitting there watching the gathering thing fill up to get around 2k ores, this is not factoring in running around, learning where they can spawn, finding the ores themselves

[whole minnow]

yeah if i had higher artisan tools the whole thing would change lol, but even now i still find stuff but its probably my server and route mostly. and right now i doubt many people even bother to farm cuz we hit a wall where we cant progress before its wiped and fresh

[hybrid stirrup]

Parox

[pliant crown]

i saw some thoughts on maybe being able to gather higher tier nodes than the tool you have for like x3 tool damage

but the scaling of selling higher tier resources to npc's makes it where you'd make a lot just getting to 20 mining and selling the ores to npc lol

[whole minnow]

without changing my pickaxe at 20 or 25 skill i could start mine slate/emerald/tin or something that i couldnt so some things is skill based and not tool only

[pliant crown]

i think the fact that we are limited on what professions we can level anyway would make it where i feel like 'why not with basic tool'

[hybrid stirrup]

Slate emerald and tin are apprentice level 10

[steady ravine]

Very interresting ! Thx

[umbral cypress]

if basalt also drops 1 zinc and granite also drops 1 copper, that should fix the issue

[whole minnow]

oh maybe i could mine it earlier then when i decided to see what would happen some days ago, idk exact names of the shit since server down but some is skill based if you can or not

[tight flame]

they said there's supposed to be a salvage feature too iirc, that might help - destroy weapons to get some copper back. And maybe higher XP for crafting higher rarity tiers would help.

[whole minnow]

Emerald ,Halcyonite,slate was the stuff i didnt bother to even check after it was all red at lower mining , something changed at some skill level for some of those

[olive bobcat]

it changed when you got an apprentice tool

[hybrid stirrup]

Yeah it’s apprentice tool for em

[olive bobcat]

everything is tool based

[opaque phoenix]

I had bigger stacks with higher level... It felt ok

[hybrid stirrup]

Well I’m using the apprentice bags you buy from vendor

They just fill up quick because of how many rarity on each resource

[pliant crown]

its ideas like this i wanted them to try while we were still in phase 1

but they havennt tried anything

[tight flame]

why does everyone want to create high rarity apprentice pick axes? Looked like it just helps you mine faster, only the mining chest/pants increase rarity rate?

[whole minnow]

really? no shot i got apprentice tool pretty much at 10 and skipped those for several days lol. maybe ive been clowning but i dont see many other pick those either even now so much time later

[hybrid stirrup]

Well we are like halfway in right technically

[fading stump]

emerald and halcyonite is pre much useless to most people so they ignore it

[pliant crown]

there are 3 types of gathering tools at level 10

[hybrid stirrup]

You get rarity rating

[tight flame]

on a mining pick axe?

[whole minnow]

exp , and i cut the shit into gems or vendored for silver. to bad i wasted so much gems into cut gems when i cant do shit with them now lol

[pliant crown]

its just been a constant thing that people that just start out cant find copper because they dont know where it can spawn or what it looks like

or zinc frankly

and no tweaking has been to try and help alliviate some of this

[charred needle]

is there any info somewhere on how the material quality translates to item quality? ive heard u dont need full heroic materials to make a heroic item

[tight flame]

Looks like lumberjack axe has rarity rating, not pick axe though

[pliant crown]

its a weighted system for the most part

[modest wedge]

Where do you actually get the Rarity main stat Pickaxe recipe? I haven't found a vendor that sells it yet

[pliant crown]

if it is 20 of 1 item and 2 of another you need the 20 to be the tier you want

[hybrid stirrup]

I’d need to check but lumber for sure

[whole minnow]

i mean they can ignore all the useless shit they dont want but then they shouldnt complain about not finding the stuff they want spawned either lol. thats the problem with ppl it seems

[tame mortar]

would be interesting to see how many of those complaining about lack of specific materials are solo players vs part of a group collecting and crafting together

[hybrid stirrup]

I’ve collected 500 copper/zync over the past two days so it certainly spawns

[fading stump]

you need all materials to be heroic to get a heroic if not using anything higher than heroic but if you have some higher than heroic and some lower it can average out and still be heroic

[hybrid stirrup]

(Big time sink and can be frustrating)

[pliant crown]

im pretty certain most people have stopped bothering is why

[hybrid stirrup]

I should say probably past 6 days of playtime