#alpha-two-artisan-chat

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spiral field
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In theory, you would make larger profitts more often on crafitng finished goods, but making smaller profits much more frequenstly gathering materials and selling them.

cosmic agate
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I am on the lookout for crafters right now, and would pay a pretty copper if I can commission any gear from them.

spiral field
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In a whole lot of games, crafting is an absolute money sink until you hit the capped level and even then, you often need to find/buy rare recipes to be truly profitable

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Gathering, while possibly netting lower profits, is profitable right away and potentially forever.

cosmic agate
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Higher tiered crafted gear will be a seller's market right now as well. With the difficulty of hitting 10 crafting, my guess is not many will reach lvl 10 by dec. 20, at least for the metal intensive crafts like armorsmithing and weapon smithing.

spiral field
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for the value add professions, consumables are often in between these two scenarios. Many big ticket items are only purchased once by each user, so your market is limited. Anythnig that's consumed is evergreen

spiral field
woeful kestrel
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In MOST MMOs, crafting is somewhat of an afterthought and is very rarely profitable at all. The only professions that end up being profitable (which is diminished due to how many eventually go for it as the only viable trade) are the consumable crafters - cooking, alchemy

spiral field
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But eventually, anyone who wants to will get there

woeful kestrel
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Steven has said he wants to make crafting fully relevant, and is taking steps towards that

cosmic agate
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Since it seems unlikely many craft profs will hit artisan before the wipe due to difficulties with node progression (pending patches), so even max lvl players will probably pay out the nose for heroic/epic/legendary crafted lvl 10 gear.

spiral field
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Do we know yet where the blance lies between learned recipes and found recipes? I would assume the truly BIS items will need to have their receipe farmed/bought even if you have alreaydy have the required crafting level

cosmic agate
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Just to hammer the point home with how amazing crafts can be, a Legendary Flayer's Fleshripper is stronger than The Emberblade. And not by a small margin, either. That means the best (so far as I know) lvl 20+ drop for 2H Sword is worse than the best lvl 10 crafted 2H sword.

nova ridge
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also, if the enchantment system ends up being like steven described at one point, where over-enchanting is possible but increases in risk the more you put on, then even high level crafted weapons will retain value (gotta keep buying new ones to see if you can get it enchanted past your current best)

pliant crown
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you can do it multiple times though so twinking out gear can be kinda nutty

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and with as much gear as we have, and an infite amount of money, you could have some crazy stats lol

nova ridge
pliant crown
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yep, i did see in apprentice onward you get like break chance reduction scrolls or something

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it will be a very steep money sink but since its not something bought off an irl cash shop and its just a crafted item i am excited to see where that system goes longer term

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it'd be funny to have a level 1 with all legendary gear with like +20 of base stats on each piece of gear or something silly

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the ultimate twink

pseudo mortar
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Looks like they fixed the sanctus short bow recipe. Woohoo

pliant crown
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oo huge

pseudo mortar
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Lots of artisan fixes and improvements today

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Can process more than 1 item at a time now

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Tanning gives fat, bones and feathers along with the hide too

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Bandits drop cooking recipes woo-hoo new food

pliant crown
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wonder if all production professions will start to get recipees or if they just made cooking its own thing lol

gusty oracle
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they need to make it so food and potion buffs dont end if you need to relog due to a bugs.

pliant crown
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wonder how hard that issue is to fix

cedar hare
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any artisans just starting this weekend?

drifting gust
cosmic agate
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Oh congratz, around how many lvl 10+ crafters have you seen around? As someone not yet in a guild I haven't seen any around, though I want to find someone I can pay gold to make some good gear.

neon magnet
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i think there's 2 ill be 3rd this weekend ill be lv 10 armorsmithing

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but i gathered 90% of everything myself

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ill also have jewelcrafting next weekend to 10

cosmic agate
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That is sweet. I can't believe you managed to find so much zinc! I must be doing something wrong with my mining because I haven't found nearly as much, less than 50 as a lvl 9 miner. I know that isn't high but it made me want to change tactics to trying to buy zinc with coin I make grinding/caravanning instead of mining.

drifting gust
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man, are people on your server selling metal? you must be lucky

smoky frigate
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How do you get a hunting bow...so you can get animal skins ?

keen parcel
cosmic agate
smoky frigate
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Tt

dusk bay
pallid smelt
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The Sweat of your Brow quest gives every gathering tool as well as the mount. The crude tools are automatically added to your artisan page. H to pull it up, then at top is tab for Artisan. When you upgrade the tool to novice, they auto equip as well. You never get a gathering tool in your items inventory

neon magnet
neon magnet
graceful lodge
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how do you get grem skins>

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?

pliant crown
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grem have a smallish chance to become gatherable on respawn

graceful lodge
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what do you mean by hunter?

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sorry i have no idea on this

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is this something everony can do or do i have to find this skill

pliant crown
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uhhh in say lionhold it will have you do the quest sweat of your brow to unlock a horse and all the gathering tools

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it unlocks them together basically

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once you have that its just 'interact' button on a grem that isnt a killable mob

graceful lodge
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okay ive done that just never seen anything hunter

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oh so its a interactable mob not a killable

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like how you get the bear/wolf mount

cosmic agate
# graceful lodge like how you get the bear/wolf mount

Yes it is similar to the bear/wolf. There are a number of mobs like that. The grem ones usually spawn around flightable grem mobs, and you'll usually be able to find a few grem hunting spots right outside the lionhold south gate.

bronze bramble
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So I made all of these to show what journeyman stations are required to support different Specific Jounreyman stations that make items players can use. Based these on craftable items and their required materials shown on ashescodex so it could be subject to change. Posting these for the benefit of testing across all servers of Phase 1.

whole abyss
fading stump
summer elk
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are crafter caravans one time use?

fading stump
# summer elk are crafter caravans one time use?

caravans you craft with carpentry? no , they work the same as the basic you buy. you can use it as many times as you want until its destroyed in transit. if you take a good caravan on a route tho you have to drive it back again if wanting to launch from the original location

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theres no quick way to move them once installed

summer elk
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that's great to hear, I thought I will have to craft a new one every time

fading stump
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only need to buy a new one each time if you dont bring it back from the location it ends at, itll still be at the end point waiting to be used

ashen lodge
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Hi to all artisans!! Starting to play today any tips for newbie artisan?

fading stump
ashen lodge
keen parcel
fading stump
patent oasis
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old one goes poof

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idk if it picks the better of two or if they just expect you to not craft one worse than whatever you crafted last

cedar hare
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imma just make legendary apprentice tools and be good till p2 lol

woven stone
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Yup

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Just need to wait until servers get all stations open

cedar hare
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yup my node just finised stonewroks, so thatll be rdy bout an hour after servers are up next will be woodshop

cosmic agate
# ashen lodge Hi to all artisans!! Starting to play today any tips for newbie artisan?

One tip for a new artisan is that you can buy and then craft artisan gear that increases your xp (good for crafting artisans) and artisan gear that increases the quality of gathered materials at lvl 10. I'd also suggest focusing on one craft, then gathering a lot of materials, even those you wouldn't use, and then trying to trade resources with other players for more of the resource you need.

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For example, afaik even with crafting artisan gear and using the most efficient recipe for leveling (I think boots or gloves), armorsmithing requires 400+ zinc to get to lvl 10. Depending on your luck or ability to find zinc gathering nodes, this can be a lot, so finding other players who will trade you zinc for ruby or copper (which armorsmith doesn't need) might help a lot for leveling one crafting skill quickly.

pseudo mortar
cosmic agate
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oh nice, didn't know that about the lucky procs. And I think in this latest patch they are making it possible to get more materials after processing or crafting? Not sure though

pseudo mortar
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I didn't get a chance to test the crafting changes this PTR, was working most of the week. The one thing I did hear was that we could finally choose between mounts and beasts of burden when crafting at the animal husbandry station

cosmic agate
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Also I've seen your name around and can't help but wonder if it is a Wheel of Time reference

pseudo mortar
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haha yes

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I came up with this name like 20 years ago based off Rhuarc

cosmic agate
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I'm LanMandragoran in game

pseudo mortar
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you better be a fighter

cosmic agate
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Like the character a lot for a tank name, but realized too late its too long!

pseudo mortar
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oh tank works too I guess

cosmic agate
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couldn't think of any other characters who might be a tank

pseudo mortar
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Perrin

cosmic agate
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eh perrin is just so meh to me, plus he is closer to a ranger imo

pseudo mortar
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he's more beserker though I suppose

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lol

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yeah, that too. Matrim's my favourite though

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along with all the Aiel

cosmic agate
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ofc, he's the best

pseudo mortar
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Matrim is literally turning into Odin, I love it

cosmic agate
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At one point I reread the series, only reading the Mattrimp pov chapters, was a lot of fun

pseudo mortar
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I've read that series front to back about 14 times now

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everytime a new book released, I started over

cosmic agate
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amazing. yeah they were the first books I really dove into as a kid. I think I discovered them when I was around 12 years old and they kind of made me fall in love with reading

pseudo mortar
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Rand and Nynaeve are my least favourite in the series

cosmic agate
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gotta say, I'm sorry Robert Jordan didn't live long enough to flesh out his 30-book long vision he seemed to have

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rand is just so goddman grimdark

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edgy

pseudo mortar
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yeah, a real shame, but Sanderson did a good job

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Nynaeve should be bald at this point, always tuggin that braid

runic ore
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wheel of time discussion?!

cosmic agate
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that whole story of sanderson taking over for jordan just warms my heart. It's like he inherited the mantle of Robert Jordan, and has done so well

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lol yeah we are probably clogging the channel a bit but WoT always get me talking

pseudo mortar
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yeah same

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my all-time favourite series

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(we don't talk about the show)

runic ore
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im like 8 books in so far and about as many months

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great read

pseudo mortar
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I haven't re-read them in a while, I have a pretty vivid and active imagination so when i read the books my mind doesn't shut up at night and let me sleep. I just picture what's going on in the world and even randomly come up with new stories.

cosmic agate
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I used to work in a factory doing 12-hour shifts and just listened to the audiobooks a bunch of times too, and I really like the couple that does the voices. They have entered my inner voice now when I read the books

low prairie
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Where are those new food recipes.

ocean sparrow
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wheh i promote my fishing to apprentice i still can't get any more xp. is this a bug?

sacred turret
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Why isn't this working? I have all the resources and money... I spent so long obtaining everything...

neat salmon
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did they move the storage clerk in lionhold ?

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cant find him anymore

agile lintel
summer elk
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Got some legendary western larch, anything good can me made of it?

open lodge
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Is copper still hard to find

livid prism
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Anyone knows how to pack materials into Crates?

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for caravan

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got 60wood / 60stone, 3 crates, but now idea how to pack em

crimson steeple
jaunty shell
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I'm sure it's been asked a million times, is there a good place for Flax?

teal fiber
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Any fisherman here?

pliant crown
glad orbit
low prairie
lavish crescent
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For the crafting UI when think it would be nicer if there was a bar for Rarity that showed which rarity of the item you had in your bag. So many drop down menus

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Also when selecting fuel have spereate sections dedicated for unreined, refined fuel. Nothing worse than selecting something refined because everything looks so similar

drifting gust
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how do I get water?

crimson steeple
drifting gust
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ty

woeful kestrel
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Anyone else having issues at the Lumber Mill with Oak?

wet swift
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i'm not sure if copper/zinc node spawns were lowered or if more people are now trying to gather but i've found about 10-15% of what i was getting last weekend in the past ~3 hours

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the copper bottleneck on so much progression of artisan skills and node buildings is getting a bit out of hand, is there any plan to do something about this?

teal fiber
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im about to hit it

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has anyone made uncommon food? does it give more stats?

low prairie
drifting gust
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cooking is a rea lmoney pit, huh

harsh scroll
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What fuel do i need for tanning? I have some carcuses I want to craft but it says add fuel?

pliant crown
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wood works best

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can use flowers or fish for 1 fuel if you wanted

low prairie
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You might have to get the cert at 10.

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Could be releated to that.

gentle sigil
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Anyone knows where the apprentice Trainer for Lumberjack and Mining are?

raw rivet
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question what is the next set of armours you can craft after the inital 2nd divsion? and where can you get them from?

pseudo mortar
raw rivet
naive skiff
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Does anyone have location suggestions for Daffodils, Zinc, and Essence? (Trying to make a spellsword)

raw rivet
naive skiff
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I have no idea!

pulsar geode
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The lack of copper in this game is INSANE! It shouldn't take me 2 hours to find 5 copper....if that the case, just give me quests to find iron.

keen cliff
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so no exp now if you don't catch a fish?

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this is gonna take forever to get to 20 fishing.

pseudo mortar
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we don't reward failure here! ๐Ÿคฃ

pine surge
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Are apprentice stations not yet in the game? Or is it too early for my realm to have some?

hardy pollen
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does anyone know if I can get my crafted items in a crafting station from another crafting station? (as in another city)

hard citrus
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where do i go to make the materials for node taxes? i dont see any recipe for them at the alchemy station

pseudo mortar
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you buy them from the same person you talk to about joining the node

thorny python
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should have leveled up more before cert was available

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it's taking ages to level up

cobalt walrus
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When processing, when should I equip the processing shirt (e.g. equip metalworking shirt for metalworking)? Before starting a job or when claiming it?

thick nymph
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any know how to get cotton ?

cobalt walrus
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there's a farming station just north of the church of the seven

whole minnow
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is this not the right place to go to learn MINING 10+?
i cant figure out where else it could be

violet siren
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Copper and Zinc nodes still feel really terrible =/

cobalt walrus
whole minnow
cobalt walrus
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Anyone know where one can use the node currency acquired through the requisition board?

cobalt walrus
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you should have something about asking to be promoted. I haven't gotten to that point just yet myself

whole minnow
cobalt walrus
quiet shale
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why cant i equip my ambitious academic garb?

whole minnow
strange lodge
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Well got to Fishing level 30 and upgraded to Master, but no longer getting XP or catching fish now. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

viral bolt
cobalt walrus
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the only vendors I assume you can use are the mayor and citizen ones, but they probably require being a mayor or citizen first

modest token
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Where can i get/craft a apprentice hunting bow. i am in a node but there is only novice here.

cobalt walrus
modest token
cobalt walrus
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Someone just posted in global that we need a mayor to construct a building for it

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so apart from finding one in the wilderness, guess we're stuck without

candid dock
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How do i tell what town has the capabilities for me to make a apprentice hunting bow?

viral bolt
cobalt walrus
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thanks anyways

cobalt walrus
keen cliff
long relic
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Question does anyone know where you can find a tailoring vendor in order to buy recipes from ?

modest token
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I am not a citizen either. I will look at that tomorrow. Thank you so much guys!

pliant crown
long relic
pliant crown
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if its the non novice recipees you basically gotta find it from humanoid enemies, may have to buy it from another player if anyone has it

long relic
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Ashes codex says you can buy them from a vendor so maybe ? Not sure

lone geode
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best way to get to tier 2 mining is just do granite and basalt? Since you can't really find zinc and copper

weak spindle
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How to get hunter certificate from where???

woeful kestrel
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Apprenticeship - cookhouse

cobalt walrus
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is the storage bugged? I relogged and all my stuff disappeared

brittle jacinth
thick acorn
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i feel they might have went a little overbaord with nerfing carpenty XP ๐Ÿ˜›
3 processing benches going non top with 250 wood each and u get 75% of a level every 6 hours :p

cobalt walrus
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I've tried relogging and found an exploit caused by this issue

thick acorn
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atleast ur able to use ur bank ๐Ÿ˜›

cobalt walrus
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everytime I relog, there's 3 uncommon copper in it

thick acorn
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what happens if u take the copper oiut then relog :p

cobalt walrus
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same thing, the copper is there for the taking again

thick acorn
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omg lucky u got the infinite copper glitch the rarest resource of all time thats holding everyone up since riverlands is rare for metal :p

cobalt walrus
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yeah, but that'd be exploiting

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but the reason I got some is that's what I lost too

thick acorn
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it doesnt mater tbh server being wiped in 4 weeks ends or something

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20th december a fresh start

cobalt walrus
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yeah I know

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still don't wanna absue an exploit, that's the stuff that makes you banned ๐Ÿ˜‰

thick acorn
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report it and use the copper to level ur crafts to experiment with while u can :p

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use for testing purposes man it be fine :p

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i accidently found a dupe the other weekend but it RNG if it happens since it involve server crashign at the right time patch notes said they fixed it though so thats good

agile herald
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Did anyone figure out what the enchanted river runes are used for?

cobalt walrus
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enchanting

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I'm guessing higher levels

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there a table for it, but didn't really experiment with it yet

opaque phoenix
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Harvesting are you only able to gather Novice items at the moment without any Apprentice tools?

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Or can a town have Apprentice Tools?

cobalt walrus
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Anyone here been able to summon a caravan?

stark smelt
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I know I saw a vendor selling tools...does anyone remember where it was?

summer elk
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anyone know where are the commodities vendors, cant fint them

pseudo mortar
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in the hunting lodge @summer elk

summer elk
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Thank you

summer elk
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my first crafted legendary

pseudo mortar
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Nice

fading hinge
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hi new in crafting, is possible to put different ingredients to craft something? and if yes what would be the rating?

summer elk
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@pseudo mortar i searched all over the hunting building in the node and can't find commodities to buy. Is there a level requirement or does a node need to build something?

pseudo mortar
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he's inside the building, his name is commodity vendor

summer elk
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Not sure why can't I see him. I am low level, 7, not sure if that affects it

pseudo mortar
summer elk
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Got it, I was searching in the building where you train hunting, not the lodge, thanks

pseudo mortar
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I did say lodge! lol

summer elk
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Yeah, didn't know it existed as a separate building

pseudo mortar
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he also has unique hunt commissions for named mobs

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there's a board just outside the entrance of it

nocturne acorn
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Anyone seen the fishing vendor in a town yet?

pseudo mortar
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fishing vendor in a node comes from a cookhouse

outer jetty
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has anyone located alchemy recipes or are they not in yet?

opaque phoenix
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Is it just that copper is being mined out because people know where to find it and get it all or is it just vanishingly rare

pseudo mortar
outer jetty
pseudo mortar
nocturne acorn
pseudo mortar
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The cook house needs to be built in a node or you cannot get apprentice gear

opaque phoenix
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So much exp debt trying to find copper and just running into the random 3-star reds in a field of blue con mobs

pseudo mortar
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once a cook house is made in a node, you'll also have access to a fishing vendor as well as the workbench for apprentice poles

nocturne acorn
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Yeah i see what you meant. my bad i thought you meant the standard cook house at first

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๐Ÿ™‚

pseudo mortar
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๐Ÿ‘

blazing field
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Where can I get equipment that increases my mining XP? I found a place NE of Lionhold, but the guy only had a shirt. How about other stuff?

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& under which crafting skill is making pickaxes?

supple bramble
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Did they change where you make the apprentice piciaxe?

opaque phoenix
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Ayy I found a 4th copper node 3 hours in

summer elk
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I found around 10, but it was basically 2 separate clusters with about 5 nodes close to each other

idle willow
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So i've seen an animal husbandry station but havent had the chance to toy around with it yet, anyone else give it a go or is it just for show atm?

patent oasis
patent oasis
bright spoke
patent oasis
bright spoke
uncut scaffold
hybrid swan
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@patent oasis Only heroic dump

warm dome
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Does Copper/ore's etc. have a static respawn or is it random what will show up next time the node you harvested respawns?

quiet shale
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where can I find weeping willow trees?

woven stone
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Hello all, does anyone have any clues on what materials the Apprentice herbalism sickle and fishing poles take to make??

woven stone
woven stone
warm dome
uncut scaffold
sharp turret
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is there a reason, that it has to be that way?

summer elk
uncut scaffold
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What do you mean?

spiral field
sharp turret
wet quarry
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Has Intrepid commented on the amount of copper and zinc spawns?

spiral field
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or if the job sizes at least matched the stack sizes. imo should be 20 instead of 25

sharp turret
stark smelt
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I know I saw a vendor last weekend that had gathering tools for sale. I can't seem to find it now, does anyone know where one is?

hybrid swan
glacial helm
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I'm absolutely hating the artisanship right now. Levelling adventuring is so easy, and levelling artisanship seems so unnecessarily hard, slow, unintuitive, and unrewarding that it is hardly worth testing because it is obviouly going to need such huge conceptual changes.

ember ivy
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IT DOES EXIST!

reef cedar
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hey, what are the usual copper prices for common, uncommon and heroic?

glacial helm
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It does exist, but I need a pep talk from the boss, because i'm not seeing the vision right now at all. I'm not getting any fun out of the PvE levelling content at all. My feedback is scrap it all and start again.

candid loom
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can anyone tell me which vendor sells honey comb?

supple bramble
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Is there an Apprentice level general all purpose bag that replaces the Sanctus Resource bag?

tight cedar
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Were Animal hunting spawn times nerfed into the ground?

hybrid swan
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Think the time of day alters the spawning for hunting

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Notice more wolves out at night and more Grems at day

tight cedar
signal cobalt
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Not really a bug but costs for crafting should be based on the type. So a common item would be cheaper to craft then an uncommon item.

oblique oasis
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Started crafting pallas cat mount but had to cancel the craft mid-way because I had to get off... (ima dad so this had to go to the backburner)
Getting on today I see I am now down 65 silver... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Be careful when making mounts everyone, as if you cancel you keep the fuel and the creature but you lose the money ๐Ÿ˜ญ

pallid smelt
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Bad news: Crafts continue while youโ€™re offline. And complete then wait for you to return.

woeful kestrel
bleak zealot
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Hey to you Jewelcrafters out there what is the best recipe to get from 1-10 from because right now im making zinc/copper necks while other artisans have recipes that give them 200+ xp seems we get the shaft or im just missing something ๐Ÿ™‚

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thanks for any help

oblique oasis
chilly veldt
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if i get a higher level of tailoring like level 10 does my recipes craft gear with higher stats compared to a lower level?

woeful kestrel
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You will need to upgrade your certification to apprentice

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And to craft with higher stats, you just need to use higher tier mats (common/uncommon/rare/heroic/epic/legendary)

chilly veldt
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so level doesnt matter until 10

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? it doesnt effect anything?

woeful kestrel
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Your crafting level just allows access to higher tier recipes. Doesn't CURRENTLY affect anything else

kind sierra
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Basalt-Slate , Iron-Copper both look awfully similar they need to make these resources more appealing looks so dull rn

opaque phoenix
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If we mine some of these basalt, granite etc nodes is there a chance they could come back as something useful like copper or has no anyone noticed copper being specific locations?

spiral field
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Not only are there fewer huntable animals spawning, but the respawin time is multiple factors longer

spiral field
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imo zinc/tin are more similar

whole minnow
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i found a very good area to mine and i clear all i can. but it doesn't take many laps until the whole route is griefed by shit i can't mine so the whole place is just a huge area with shit i cant clear. seen some other guys running here as well but they aint clearing the nodes either so sooner or later everything is blocked.

the % on lowest tier nodes will respawn with the higher ones seems very high, but at the same time as soon as someone can and will mine the higher nodes it should all get balanced.
im like 13 mining only but its to much red nodes spawning on the lower tier areas imo. and i don't care if its granite or basalt respawning cuz its exp i need so the whole copper/zink situation people have a problem with i don't have myself, sure i don't find much of them but i do find them if i run around long enough..

main issue imo is all the T2 spawns blocking all the starting stuff u can mine. doubt i reach mining 20 before reset but when someone does they have a lot of shit to mine everywhere lol

kind sierra
spiral field
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It would be pretty cool if the T2/T1 ratio of metals changed based on the level of the node

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T1 being the heavier weight until the node levels up a bit

pliant crown
versed mica
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where do i go to start arcane engineering? lionhold?

cedar hare
# uncut scaffold

ur suppose dto just drag n drop but also if u alrdy have a beast of burden on, and u drag another itll delete the orginal

pliant crown
cedar hare
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purtty hehe

pliant crown
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the non node one is east of lionhold, otherwise all nodes will have an arcane engineering station

versed mica
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rip what artisan skills would yall recommend for a mage

pliant crown
uncut scaffold
pliant crown
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so i know its more than 2k copper

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i'd put it as the node progression needs less ores than you do to level your profession to 10

cedar hare
versed mica
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i guess ill stick to gathering then haha

pliant crown
# versed mica i guess ill stick to gathering then haha

gathering the level 10-20 stuff, the tool you need is tied to basically all the nodes having all the apprentice stations since i heard you need to be able to craft brass [processing] to make the apprentice pickaxe which is required to make the other tools? im not 100% on that knowledge though

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the current implementation of their systems on this im questioning the idea cause of how many time sinks and pain points they have on it

versed mica
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whats the most profitable gathering skill currently

pliant crown
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technically mining cause people may buy copper/zinc/rubies, but they mostly appear to trade them

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if you want to earn money dont do any artisian stuff it is a money pit

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there are fees to repair your gathering tools, there are fees to process gathered materials, you sometimes need to buy npc items to process raw materials, and after you get everything together there is also a fee to craft items

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and if you were to try to npc any of it back it is usually a net loss

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gathering can make money since you can gether a stack of 20 resource for like 1 silver i think

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its just time consuming when you could kill 10-20 mobs and get more in glint, not to mention if you were killing humanoids you might get gear

versed mica
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so instead of spending time on professions i should just aoe farm

pliant crown
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it can be good to level gathering now just to get used to what to look for in the future if they make the system less cruel?

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pretty much they have it crazy imbalanced right now

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the time it takes you to get a profession to 10 you probably could just hit 25

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[not gathering, that doesnt take too long its just grinding]

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sorry a crafting profession

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some of the processing professions are okay too

thorny atlas
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Just run caravans for gold to supply your artisan habits.

woven stone
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"just run caravans" Yeah, thats a server specific advice right there

pliant crown
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yeppp

thorny atlas
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well.. that's probably true as well

versed mica
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don't think ill be able to pull that off on lyneth lmao

thorny atlas
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Lyneth it's easy to run caravans

versed mica
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ah okay ill look into that

pliant crown
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i dont think its something to do on resna since lot of pvp guilds lol

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probably will just lose stuff KEKW

woven stone
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Miraleth -> desert hidden spot for secret safe money doubling ๐Ÿคซ

thorny atlas
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I agree with Resna you'd better have a good back up force

pliant crown
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i wont be staying on resna into phase 2 since i'd like to be able to mess with more systems lol

thorny atlas
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On Lyneth the mayor of MIra even promised safety for running a caravan through their lands. No banditry allowed. If you see gankers on caravans headed into Mira just ping anyone in Overlord

versed mica
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rn im operating out of joeva

thorny atlas
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Yeah, all of us in Dynasty are Joevans

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and Joevans have no issues running them

versed mica
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cool man ill have to look into the caravan system just hit lvl 10 strictly aoe farming and i want to get into different systems of the game so i don't get burnt out

thorny atlas
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scratch that.. only issues we have are caravan bugs lol

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but a lot of bugs were fixed.. there are still a few out there

modern sail
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where do u find flax?

thorny atlas
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on the ground. typically in flower patch areas or along the roads

modern sail
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ah okay

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and grem hide?

thorny atlas
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pet an animal to death

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non aggressive white labeled grems

modern sail
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oh man those are hard to find

thorny atlas
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killing grems has a chance to pop a white one

pliant crown
#

basically that

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it will be a gatherable version

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but the spawn rates on it are very low now from what i hear

thorny atlas
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yeah they are, but I still see them out in the wilds

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Or sometimes I kill a group of grems, come back 15 min later and a white one has popped

modern sail
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i just need to craft some gear lol

opaque phoenix
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So these items listed requiring tons of tier 3 glint, is that some kind of attainable thing currently?

versed mica
#

for caravans do i need to gather mats to ship to another node or how does it work? I know i need crates to ship but do i buy them outright or do i need to fill the crates with mats

ashen lodge
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Maybe I wrong but it seems like crafting is super useless right now. You dont need to craft anything to progress.
What is a point in it just roleplay?

pliant crown
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idk myself

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you can make really cool gear if you get lucky enough like

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making a legenadry level 1 piece of gear would be pretty rad

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but it feels like its just to twink out a new character rather than anything else

ashen lodge
#

What is the chance to gather 20 legendary cuprum ?:)

pliant crown
#

the time investment is magnitudes higher than just killing mobs and getting decent gear

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well i only have found 2 rubies as legendary, nothing else legendary tyhus far personally

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the other issue though is even if you find enough legendary of 1 resource, you still need to get legendary of the other resources if you want the craft to come out legendary

opaque phoenix
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I crafted with Epic Blackberries and got Uncommon Fruit Salad

pliant crown
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i heard that is kinda the same issue with alchemy

opaque phoenix
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the merchant only item was white so it must've brought it down

pliant crown
#

they did change the UI to show you that the npc bought items dont effect crafting outcome

olive bobcat
pliant crown
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some of the crafting gear [shirts] will have + rarity on them

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so i assume that is the plan for cooking stuff?

patent narwhal
olive bobcat
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around rivers/ponds have been my best luck. youll also find some in rocky areas and a smaller amount just out and about in normal, flat areas. biggest issue is everyone is looking for copper, so it gets snatched up on sight. its definitely out there.

patent narwhal
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Yeah, absolutely.

olive bobcat
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also, keep your eyes open on the roads. i cant tell you how many people ive watched ride right by copper and zinc and then complain it doesnt exist.

gilded heath
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where about do you encounter copper ore the most @olive bobcat ?

ashen lodge
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Can you vendor crafted weapons ?

olive bobcat
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entirely anecdotal, but the entire western side of the map for me. and ive had ok luck around carphin. i havent found much in the central part of the map or in miraleth, but that could very well just be a population disparity from where i usually mine. the thinnest copper/zinc distribution so far has been in nw winstead. it still pops up occasionally, but ive spent enough time chopping wood there that i just think its a very low spawn zone.

gilded heath
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thanks

summer elk
olive bobcat
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just the basic mining gear. it gives a little rarity, but not much.

summer elk
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wow that's lucky, with that copper you could craft legendary apprentice mining pick which gives a ton of rarity and other stuff, but you also need legendary wood

olive bobcat
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yeah, im just short the legendary larch.

languid dune
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found copper

summer elk
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from my experience, larch is usually higher rarity than other stuff so it's easier to get it legendary, I gathered 10 today but used it for legendary caravan

olive bobcat
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i have absolutely zero luck with lumber rarity. none whatsoever. hit level 32, demoted back to journeyman from master, still nothing. no clue why. all my luck is in mining.

warm dome
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Can you do all gathering skills or can you only promote/upgrade a few of them?

pliant crown
#

start with all 22 unlocked, can only pick 5 to go from 10-20, 4 from 20-30, and so on until 40-50 is only 2

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and of the 5 you got in the 10-20 range are your only choices for 20-30

whole minnow
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i love these server resets, prob + 80 copper ๐Ÿ˜‚

pliant crown
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how the world looks after a reset i feel shoulda be the norm lol

rustic viper
#

If you want a crafting result to be say Heroic, I know that the ingredients need to be Heroic, but does the Fuel need to be Heroic too?

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and if all ur ingredients are Heroic, is it guaranteed that the result will be too, or just a chance?

pliant crown
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it should show you a preview of the outcome you will get if you craft the item

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but fuel and npc items arent part of the 'rarity' process

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it has a ui text that says what ingredients effect it

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most gear appears to just be a weighted thing

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but from the sounds of it cooking and alchemy are harder to get higher tiers of stuff

hearty furnace
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round about how long does getting to 10-15 mining take?

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for anyone who's done it yet

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like several hours or maybe just an hour or two of solid grinding

whole minnow
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several , i get like 1% per thing i mine at 13 mining.

hearty furnace
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and Journeyman is at 15 yeah?

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Novice 10?

modest wedge
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Getting the Apprentice Pickaxe asap after 10 helps alot. The trainer recipe one has +XP as the main stat so you get a lot more XP mining

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Journeyman is 20

whole minnow
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there is some scroll or something you can get for exp, unless that was just player exp while gathering and not artisan exp

modest wedge
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Yeh the Mining Vendor sells it once you get the Stoenworks up

whole minnow
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yeah , think i saw that at some alch station or something as well but thats the one

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have u tested it @modest wedge ?

modest wedge
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Not yet. Already had mining at 20 when we built the stoneworks

worthy drum
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anyone know what daffodil & snowdrop fibers are for?

candid loom
#

can anyone enlighten me on how i get fishing started?? I have a fishing pole but when I get near water i get no prompt to start fishing?

candid loom
drifting gust
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I['ve taken the caravan to another node. How do I actually sell the commodities?

pulsar panther
drifting gust
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ty

eternal quail
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Hi all. I have acquired this bear but I have no idea what I do with it, can anyone shed some light for me please?

drifting gust
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animal husbandry xcan turn it into a mount or beast of burden

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thaqt requires major money though

somber crown
uncut scaffold
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Does anyone have the recipe of the apprentice lumberaxe?

modest wedge
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The mats? It's 10 Western Larch Timber, 10 Copper Fragments, 1 Basalt Weapon Mold

uncut scaffold
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Thanks ^^

barren arrow
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Where do higher tier recipes for gathering tools drop? Also, I assume we need higher than novice stations to make them?

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Resna server is so behind the artisan development because of all the pvp eepin instead of growth

modest wedge
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Yeh they're from the Apprentice Buildings. So Woodworks for Lumberaxe, Stoneworks for Mining Pickaxe, Agricultural Supply for Herbalism Sickle

whole minnow
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idk how i feel about storing this at a npc that already lost 1 whole inventory for me yesterday ๐Ÿ˜‚

pliant crown
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the big sweat

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me whenever i have one extra storage slot im like do i risk it

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i have a bunch from the bug that made it make more

spring marsh
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I'm really at a loss here, i just spent the last 2 and a half hours running around cliffs and rivers, 99% of the mining nodes i cant mine and I'm still level 1 mining, am i just in the wrong spots or is there a serious lack of novice level mining nodes?

pliant crown
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the best place to find a lot of just basalt and granite is east new aela, on the beach in my experience

pliant jackal
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Looking at the post 2 above yours Iโ€™d say they are there lol

barren arrow
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I have a hard time finding Copper nodes on my sever.

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I mean I do find them but they are so rare, might as well be diamonds

pliant jackal
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I havenโ€™t found copper but Iโ€™m finding other minable nodes along rivers

barren arrow
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Basalt and Granite are a plenty, but copper and sometimes ruby is a pain

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Probably highly farmed and long respawn

pliant crown
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i assume weapon smith is similar

barren arrow
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Also, Resna server is a stepchild.of all crafting servers cause we have few large pvp guilds that spend most of their time just showing each other their genitals instead of improving towns.

pliant crown
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also it is 2k rubies for scribe to get to 10 lol

opaque phoenix
barren arrow
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Got so much oak wood, trying to figure out what best to use it for

barren arrow
#

Does increase in processing level ever decrease the time to craft? or just gatekeeps from higher tier material processing?

glacial helm
raw rivet
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Has anyone worked out the equation for crafting quality?

woeful kestrel
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I'm personally not going to go that deep into the numbers until they say they've given us the final crafting setup. Current iteration is more of a place holder

barren arrow
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Are survey pylons a consumable?

woeful kestrel
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Yes.

barren arrow
woeful kestrel
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Yw

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Also, they are place on the ground and give a circle of effect. It's not huge, so I personally think they're only currently viable for harvesting that doesn't need to move around much, like fishing.

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Higher level ones might have a bigger radius, which would make them more effective for other crafts

somber crown
spare owl
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How do you feel about material quality as a concept? I don't know if I'm a fan tbh. Clutters your inventory, and saying things like Legendary Oak Wood sounds a bit stupid

whole minnow
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its good , makes it more fun when u get some high grade material. imagine going around and loot the exact same item for 12hr + lol. just vendor the low tier shit or waste it to gain exp in something
also u kinda dont wanna risk to do dumb shit when u have several high tier mats on you. dying will suck

woeful kestrel
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Inventory mgmt is currently a bit of a pain, but that should get resolved later with higher tier bags available

desert skiff
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Tree growth rates are abysmal

woeful kestrel
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It does feel like they slowed them down, but given that we're in a VERY small part of the full map, I'd imagine that over-farming won't be too big of an issue going live.

raw rivet
woeful kestrel
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There's going to be 85+15 nodes at launch. We're only testing 5 atm

gaunt gust
whole minnow
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kinda feel like ppl are meme'ing with the copper lol, unless i found the motherload route. but even when i decide to check some new path i keep finding more

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only thing holding me back is my lvl i cant go where ever i like im still lvl8 cuz u get no exp farming ๐Ÿ˜‚

barren arrow
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Not sure, maybe it is different from.server to.server, so far I keep finding motherloads of basalt and granite, iron, but no copper

whole minnow
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im on resna with all the clowns not building nodes so my mats pretty much gonna be useless ๐Ÿ˜

woeful kestrel
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Yeah, we're on Resna too. I've found TONS of granite and basalt, but very little copper

unreal parcel
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So hard to find a decent Grem hunting spot... always just 0-1 hunting. Im I just at the wrong spots?

woeful kestrel
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They're not common, but there is a trick to it also

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If you go to the low lvl area and kill the lvl 1 timids, they spawn the harvestables every so often

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Or any area where there's a decent amount of grems clumped together.

unreal parcel
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ok just got a triple hunt spawn

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im just impacient

woeful kestrel
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lol ๐Ÿ™‚

unreal parcel
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But fact is, by killing grems i get more High rarity Flax than gremskin :)

woeful kestrel
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Agreed

gaunt gust
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Copper is definitely rare. But sometimes you get graced with 30 copper in 15 mins and wonder if a GM is following you placing nodes down. Other times i farm for 2hrs STRAIGHT and get 15 mixed copper/zinc

fallow sage
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so right now fishing is auto?

autumn junco
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Okay, so I have a very important question in regards to artisan classes.

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Will being able to demote your artisan class just a testing feature or does anyone know if that will be available in final release?

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If it's in final release, I feel like it will undermine much of how the economy is supposedly going to work.

fallow sage
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i mean

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from what i understand

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u can only have a max amount of grandmaster

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so if u want to change ur grandmaster job

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u would have to demote

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instead of making a new character

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idk tho

autumn junco
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Yeah, im saying that is a bad idea. I don't think demoting should be a thing, atleast not past Apprentice.

fallow sage
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

autumn junco
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I think once you decide to move one up to journeyman in an artisan it should lock it in perminently.

woeful kestrel
#

I doubt it'll be a permanent thing. I think you'll be able to switch, but what the repercussions will be I don't know

fallow sage
#

yeah

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sounds like archtypes

woeful kestrel
#

Yeah, they'll probably make you do some extra work for it

fallow sage
#

how do i get more fishing poles / repair?

spare owl
autumn junco
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I'm just saying that since you can only go up to 5 in apprenticeship, you should probably have a good idea on going forward what you're going to have be your two grandmasters.

woeful kestrel
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Repair is at any vendor. Bottom left icons on their screen

balmy ingot
woeful kestrel
#

To upgrade, you'd have to visit the Fishermen's stall

fallow sage
#

is fishermans stall in lionhold

woeful kestrel
autumn junco
#

This game will live or die on how good the economy is.

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imo

#

Seems too potentially exploitable.

spare owl
#

I don't think that's viable, you'll lose all your progress every time you demote

woeful kestrel
#

Given the time to level the craft (current leveling is faster than what I will be) I doubt switching on a regular basis will be a thing or even profitable

balmy ingot
woeful kestrel
#

I believe that also. Steven is a big proponent of choices/consequences.

tiny jacinth
#

I can't lie, the crafting system needs some serious thought. With how difficult it seems to be for most people to get copper and zinc, weapon and armor smithing is going to fall far behind the other crafts in level -- ive been spending the entirety of last weekend and as much of this weekend as possible gathering materials to level either and i've made very little headway.

fallow sage
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ill be honest, its not perfectly clear on how to progress as an artisan

tiny jacinth
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either xp per craft needs to be increased, or mats required needs to be decreased for those 2 specifically. i do not see weapon or armor smithing becoming useful until end game when you physically cant level anymore and the craft will eventually catch up

woeful kestrel
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Crafting is still at a temporary, bare bones, place holder level. Phase 2 will start the full testing of it

fallow sage
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we at phase 2

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or u mean beta

tiny jacinth
#

i figured, and this kind of feedback will hopefully be taken into account

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i think he meant wave 2 for alpha 2

fallow sage
#

ah

woeful kestrel
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ROFL...no. We're in Alpha 2, but phase 1. Phase 2 is Dec 20th. Phase 3 of alpha is May sometime I think, and that'll go for as long as needed, but expect about 6 mos to a year.

autumn junco
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It's all gonna depend, if the demotion is allowed even with going back to lowest level of demoted artisan, on how profitable it will be.

woeful kestrel
#

Right now they're mostly focused on the server stability and processes.

barren arrow
#

Is there anything useful that I can transform gray quality Oak wood into?

woeful kestrel
#

If you want to try your hand at carpentry, sure. But otherwise, not really...

sullen solstice
#

so I wanted to try tailoring...then it lead me to weaving...which leads me to farming...where do we do farming? apparently need to get cotton for weaving

woeful kestrel
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Cotton you have to buy the seed at the Agricultural Vendor and combine with droppings to grow the cotton.

sullen solstice
#

Ah okay, Iโ€™ve been selling droppingsโ€ฆIโ€™ll keep them now, ty

woven stone
#

So Green Ink just doesnt exist or something? RIP

rare mesa
#

I hope they look again at crafting before next weekend needing 8 bolts vs 1 thread in tailoring is kinda skewed got a feeling it shoudl have been the other way round as tailoring lvl ups are fully blocked behind lumbermilling rn

woeful kestrel
#

I run into the same with Carpentry. Takes 20 logs to craft a bow, 5 to craft a crate and 10 to craft a caravan.

glacial helm
woeful kestrel
#

Yep. have sent the feedback on the forums

pliant crown
#

i almost want to leave a 2nd feedback on the forums about it lol

glacial helm
#

I actually like the 20 logs to craft a bow, because they are putting gameplay before realism, which for me is an important principle, when you are designing a game. Just think of it like you need to go through 20 logs to find one that works, the important thing is that rangers don't get a weapon super-inexpensive compared to someone using a sword.

barren arrow
#

The most annoying thing is that I see iron nodes all over the place and barely any copper. and I am already lvl 14 apprentice miner....

woeful kestrel
#

So you have to wait until you get heroic/epic/legend wood in the first place.

glacial helm
#

I think that they need to somehow decouple gathering from the other professions anyway so that miners etc, just get paid for gathering, for normal mats, and drop the goods off at the processor. When they get heroic/epic/legend they can hang onto it for a special deal, but for levelling gathering they just drop it off and get paid. It looks too much like New World where you get sucked into levelling all professions at once and cant focus.

pliant crown
#

there are a few ways they can go about the issue with it in its current form but are doing none of them to see what may feel best before doing what they i am hopeful they have planned in phase 2

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abundance of resource but you need a lot of it, craft is just a lot less resources, or craft gives a lot more exp

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ideally normalizing recipees to reflect if it has more resources it gives more exp

#

gotta wait for nodes to progress to make anything past novice anyway so if they were 'done' crafting they can stuff resources into the nodes

woeful kestrel
gaunt gust
#

Anyone interested in trading your zinc/copper (Unsmelted is best) for my droppings?

wide portal
#

whats the quickest way to level weapon/armorsmithing currently?

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novice

gaunt gust
#

Thats the fun part, it's not quick >.>
Just making boots... Lots and lots of boots. Wear the shirt and have a scroll going

raw rivet
#

armoursmithing do the feet. it gives 161 xp for using 2 zinc fragments

raw rivet
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made the mistake of not finding out about the scrolls untill level 9 xD

gaunt gust
#

The worst part, is that you need apprentice metal working to use the tin as well xD

raw rivet
#

yer thats my next go

gaunt gust
#

and slate molds are t2 as well

raw rivet
#

stonemasonry should be fine ive just been going 100 basalt molds at a time

#

metal working only at 7 tho ๐Ÿ˜ข

gaunt gust
#

Just planning for it all is the main thing

raw rivet
#

i was lucky that i was getting zinc from my guildies but half the time it was in fragments so metal working lagged behind

#

im hoping they change the amount of time it takes to process materials tho

#

its such a blocker

gaunt gust
#

I won't lie. It's all a grind lol.

raw rivet
#

Hell, we're complting the cookhouse which needs a shed ton of bows, but each bow takes 10 oak timber,

now i get that its a nodeal things but damn

gaunt gust
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14 and a quarter. Warrior. It's vastly helpful with clearing mobs guarding nodes

raw rivet
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not " that" far ahead ๐Ÿ˜„ im just hitting 13

woeful kestrel
#

I'm there with you. Doing carpentry though.

gaunt gust
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It's a trade off for sure. If i put half the time i spend looking for copper/zinc into grinding exp, i'd be 20+ easily

raw rivet
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yer i get that. got a load of 20+ in my guild.
tho got a load of levels getting the sanctum emblems for the bows for the cook house ๐Ÿ™‚

gaunt gust
#

I will say, on wipe it will be smart to get to around lvl 12ish before focusing mining since it'll help with mobs

raw rivet
#

aye had that same thought. im doing cleric so i can punch up its just slow on dps but the sustain is awesome

gaunt gust
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i sold all t2 mats that weren't tin and slate or heroic+ halcy/emerald. Use that money to buy a 215 dmg 2H. I've killed quite a few mobs 5 lvl's above and killed two 1 star lvl 15 griffins that were guarding two zinc and 1 copper node, so it's definitely helpful focusing on being able to contest/live lol

woeful kestrel
#

Sadly, on Resna, we're locked to T1 mats as no node has built building upgrades

woeful kestrel
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

misty musk
#

We still dont have hunter apprentice bow to buy?

modest wedge
#

Apprentice Hunter Bow needs a Cookhouse

woeful kestrel
#

Resna has no apprentice gear available yet

misty musk
misty musk
modest wedge
#

The Mayor of the Node (Town) needs to build it

woeful kestrel
#

Hunter is trained at a cookhouse

misty musk
keen parcel
#

the cookhouse makes the bow available i believe

woeful kestrel
#

Artisan bow and adventure bow are two different things

misty musk
#

I mean hunter bow to farm apprentice preys

keen parcel
#

wahts an adventure bow?

woeful kestrel
#

Longbow/shortbow

keen parcel
#

oh, yeah.

#

Hutning Bow probably requires Cookhouse

woeful kestrel
#

Yes. Hunter bow is provided by the Cookhouse (They're in charge of the hunter training)

#

Resna has NO apprentice buildings, therefore cannot provide ANY apprentice lvl gear

misty musk
keen parcel
#

which in turn means we can't gather any apprentice level materials

woeful kestrel
#

You can train to apprentice lvl at the independent stations, but without the apprentice lvl tools (which are locked to the town buildings) we cannot harvest/process/craft any apprentice lvl gear/recipes.

misty musk
#

To make it happen?

sweet elk
#

Does anyone know for processing whether xp buffs apply on pickup or starting a job?

woeful kestrel
misty musk
sweet elk
keen parcel
worthy drum
#

am i missing something or to get lvl 10 crafting u just spamcraft hundreds of gear?

worthy drum
#

thats insane, is there even anyone with lvl 10 weaponsmithing for example? u would need a thousand copper or so lol

woeful kestrel
#

I've seen one or two post their lvls. You can scroll up a little in this chat and you'll see some are close.

#

Copper is rare to find, but all mats have a 'prefered' spawning area. I can find TONS of basalt on the west side of Lionhold, but granite I find more on the east side.

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I haven't searched too much myself, since I'm a carpenter, but I'm sure there's a spawn loc for copper that will see a higher rate than elsewhere.

worthy drum
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im leveling tailoring because i cba with finding copper, but even that i farmed for like 6h yesterday and only got to lvl 5 lol

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and flax is wayyy easier to find than copper i imagine

woeful kestrel
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Yeah, flax is rare, but I find a lot more than copper

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And it can be grown with seeds if needed

summer elk
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Is glint not tradable? how should a trader who does not grind mobs buy commodities then?

woeful kestrel
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Tradeable to whom? You can sell glint to the vendors np

summer elk
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I wanted to buy glint from another player, but it said it's not tradable

keen parcel
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glint is a normal resource

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its not tradeable

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its an alternate to gold/silver/vopper

summer elk
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damn... there goes my dream to be an artisan trader, now I will have to grind glint for that. I wanted to play without much combat until endgame maybe

woeful kestrel
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Not sure why you'd have to grind glint. You can trade coin to other players. And most goods, just not glint atm as it's used for taxes

summer elk
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I have gold, but I want to do caravan runs, need glint for that

woeful kestrel
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Ah. That'll probably change in later phases. Or the option to pay in coin will be added, I'd imagine

summer elk
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Hopefully, but so far it looks to me like intended

woeful kestrel
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A lot of the processes are at basic level atm

summer elk
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the other option is to transport resources instead of commodities and try to earn money on the price difference between start and end node, but not sure if thats as profitable as commodities and does not make sense at this point without auction houses and shops

woeful kestrel
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Those are coming in later phases

whole abyss
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I'm raptor ready...just wish my server was too ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

modest wedge
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Which mob is it that give Raptor Carcass?

whole abyss
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swiftclaw is the name, if i remember

toxic thunder
pseudo mortar
woeful kestrel
solid hazel
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Hi everyone. Iโ€™ve seen players on bearsโ€ฆ. How do I tame a bear for a new mount

toxic thunder
supple acorn
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Is the Animal Husbandry not working? Wont let me start a job even though I have everything

keen trellis
#

seems crafting not workin at all... i cant craft any aprentice stuff

supple acorn
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Keeps saying Insufficent resources for me, even though I have everything in

tight cedar
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Wow intrepid nerfed hunting spawns like crazy

spiral field
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It's BRUTAL to level it now

modest wedge
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If you find sizable packs of Grems to aoe they often respawn as Huntable ones. Can get plenty of Droppings too ๐Ÿ™‚

tight cedar
spiral field
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I suspect it might be random or variable.

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a couple of the spots that I was frequenting had 3 spawns close together, They seem to never have all 3 up at the same time anymore. I've also waited up to 20 minutes and none of them respawned.

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Yet, I am pretty sure that I've seen the single ones maybe 10 minutes later as I pass by again. None of them appear to be 3 minutes anymore.

vague depot
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Is anyone else having a hard time finding copper ore or is it just me?

visual pewter
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Only place I ever saw a node was in halcyon. Still havenโ€™t seen a zinc node

vague depot
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Zinc ive found a few of but copper is just no where x.x

visual pewter
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Good luck and godspeed lol

ocean sparrow
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do you have to be apprentice in animal husbandry to make the terror bird and tide mounts?

glossy yew
ocean sparrow
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alright, anyone on castus selling apprentice mounts?

hushed berry
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5 beasts of burden in a row. Love RNG crafting.

spiral field
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I've got some quality critters, but I'm to poor to breed them lol

faint hull
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I found a zinc node a few mins ago right outside Lionhold

worthy drum
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any1 knows where to get the recipe for apprentice gathering tools?

wet quarry
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Is there any way to craft lets say 3 items at a time? Or is it always in increments of 1, 5, 10, etc

woeful kestrel
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Current set up is place holder. Eventually I almost guarantee we'll have a choice on how much/many to make. Right now all of it is based on exact #s just to have a working model.

faint hull
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does anyone know if there is a plan for an interactive crafting system instead of just click button and wait x minutes for it to craft?

ashen lodge
woeful kestrel
wide portal
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does anyone know whats the most efficient way to level novice weaponsmithing? shield cuz less copper?

woeful kestrel
wide portal
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Thank you

wide portal
calm spoke
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Anyone know what is needed to make an apprentice lumberjacking axe

woeful kestrel
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Do they sell back to the vendor for a minor profit? If so, that's a sustainable recipe (disregarding possible player selling). If it sells for less than the cost to craft, you might need to find alternative recipes or funding

woeful kestrel
calm spoke
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Would appreciate it

woeful kestrel
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Sure. Give me 1 min to get tehre

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*there

calm spoke
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I've got enough to make an apprentice pick but i'd rather have the axe. Just dont want to waste the recourses if its duplicate recourses thats needed

wide portal
woeful kestrel
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10 timber, 10 brass fragments and 1 weapon mold

calm spoke
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Which timber?

wide portal
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and which mold

calm spoke
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Brass???

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Can you take a screenshot and post it

woeful kestrel
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For apprentice I'm not sure the mats, since I'm only by the novice one sadly. I can see quantity, not the updated mat reqs

real flame
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whats the best thing to do with unwanted beasts of burden? can't justify selling it to vendor at such a huge loss

woeful kestrel
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No matter what, you're most likely going to take a loss on them, but you might be able to recoup some by selling to other players for whatever they'll offer

real flame
main spindle
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So has anyone actually found copper? I've spent about 4 hours looking and found 3 total nodes. Is there some mine or something that has some?

woeful kestrel
woeful kestrel
main spindle
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How are you meant to level up weapon/armour smithing if there's basically 0 copper?

woeful kestrel
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/shrug

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The hard way?

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Make coin and buy some/shank the gatherers as they run around ๐Ÿ˜›

wide portal
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tbh i spent 72 copper and i didnt even get a single level of weaponsmithing, around 90%
so yeah xD

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i think weaponsmithing costs are pretty overtuned currently

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costs in copper should be half what they are now

woeful kestrel
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I feel for you, 100%, as some crafts are way harder than others. I also realize that this is all just place holder stuff for us to mess around with until they put the true crafting system in place and try and balance it out in the next couple phases.

wide portal
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Yeah just gotta wait and see what phase 2 brings about

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But in the current iteration weaponsmithing is tremendously more expensive compared to some of the other crafts I've tried so far

main spindle
wide portal
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thats why its more expensive xD

chrome shadow
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How do you get the recipes to process wood and other materials all I have is the starter ones and they donโ€™t level up the profession

woeful kestrel
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Can't use the stations in Lionhold. Those are for the beginner quest only and don't provide any actual xp for the crafts.

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If you're trying to process lumber, there's two lumber mill stations, one east, the other west of Lionhold:

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Carpentry station is only at the Woodshop though

chrome shadow
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Your awesome thank you!

trail grove
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when can i level novice to apprentice ?

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what vl do i need to reach

chilly cape
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level 10

crude shoal
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does anyone know if the school of contruction's xp gain for crafting in the zone of influence is bugged or is tailoring not considered a 'craft' by that building's definition?

woeful kestrel
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What's the definition state? I'm unaware of it specifically

crude shoal
woeful kestrel
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Yeah, specificlaly says crafting, which Tailoring falls into. Only thought I would have then is most of those are percentage based, so maybe it's just too low a number atm for it to register?

tribal lotus
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I captured a rare animal from hunting. Does it give a better mount in animal husbandry?

tribal lotus
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Damn

crude shoal
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not yet at least, it gives better beasts of burden but not mount

rare forum
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Hey, quick question, to craft a rare armor piece do I need a different recipe or just rare materials?

woeful kestrel
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Just the better quality mats

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Weighted system, so if you're going for rare, you'll need ALL mats at rare or above

rare forum
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sorry for my ignorance, but is mats short for materials?

woeful kestrel
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Except for fuel, which can be any

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Aye ๐Ÿ™‚

rare forum
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thanks

woeful kestrel
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Anytime

rare forum
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any recommandation what to craft for a lv 13 fighter?

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also, does the rarity of fuel also count than?

woeful kestrel
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At the moment, crafting is in a bare bones, place holder set up, so depends on what you're wanting, may well be quicker to farm it. For a fighter, I'd usually expect plate/leather of some sort

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No, fuel can be anything. It doesn't count towards the weighting system

rare forum
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until now I went with heavy armor to have some sustain

woeful kestrel
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Yeah. If you're looking to craft that route, armorsmith/weaponsmith would work well for you. However, currently copper is a rare resource to come across, so you're not going to get far very quickly on that profession at the moment

rare forum
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well its gonna get wiped in dec anyhow, just trying to test the system right now. Anyhow I got some copper and for armor it looks like I need zinc

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somhow got lucky and have 10lv 2 hand greatsword with 200+ physical already

whole abyss
#

Anyone managed to build the cookhouse? We're a less populated server and only managed like 1/3 of the bows. It's a terrible requirement for the little uptime we have. Guess it makes sense when servers will be up 24/7

compact fable
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As of today

tribal lotus
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Where is the npc that I can get apprentice certificate from?

woeful kestrel
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Which one?

tribal lotus
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Hunter

woeful kestrel
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Cookhouse. East of Lionhold trains hunters

tribal lotus
woeful kestrel
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Anytime

glacial helm
# whole abyss Anyone managed to build the cookhouse? We're a less populated server and only ma...

I don't know, with 22 artisan classes, if you have a 100% player driven economy, every class must produce 22x what every player needs/demands individually throughout levelling? Gathering classes need to provide nearly double that, because there are only 5 of them (vs 9 processing, 8 crafting). Of course it wont be 100%? because you have drops and vendors? But it must be a relatively high percentage or you end up with an irrelevant economy. I cant help feeling there is going to have to be a bit of thinking put towards this, to get it to work. Hopefully that has already been done.

versed mica
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what "fuel" do i need to train this uncommon horse and do i need 100 or can it be any amount?

fervent wind
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Right now, It takes an ungodly amount of metal to make jewlry

hollow salmon
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you cant even say jewelry in the game

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LOL

woeful kestrel
fervent wind
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Not only does jewlery crafting take a lot of materials ... the XP is crap

woeful kestrel
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Oak is one of the easiest as it is 10 fuel each. Western Larch (sp) is 25 each

summer osprey
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anyone know what the recipe for artisan pickaxe is once the station is up?

woeful kestrel
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10 wood/10 ore/1 weapon mold

summer osprey
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what kinds ?

woeful kestrel
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Depends on the artisan lvl. Novice will be Oak/copper/basalt

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Apprentice will be T2 mats...

summer osprey
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How can I make a artisan pickaxe without being able to get artisan ore thooo

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err apprentice

modest wedge
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Apprentice Pickaxe is 10x Western Larch Timber, 10x Copper Fragments & 1 Basalt Weapon Mold

summer osprey
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tyvm

woeful kestrel
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Ok. Little at a loss here. You gain a base tool by going through the crafting quest. You can craft the Novice pickaxe any time after that as you're automatically a novice. Apprentice one isn't available until lvl 10, and those show up at the node towns once they've build the required building.

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*built

summer osprey
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tsangy answered, wiki showed t2 materials to build apprentice axe but I figured that couldn't be right

modest wedge
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There are 2 other Pickaxes you can craft that do use T2 mats. They just have a different arrangement of stats

summer osprey
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Tyvm!

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now I know what to farm if I want a nice artisan to start with once it comes up

woeful kestrel
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You keep using artisan which is what threw me off :). You mean apprentice

glacial helm
summer osprey
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anyone else experiencing chopping trees and getting nothing? might be because I was fishing

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or maybe that's a change

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i get the xp

woeful kestrel
glacial helm
woeful kestrel
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Current crafting isn't more than bare bones basic set-up. The lack of ore and recipe balancing will take place in later phases, but all feedback is useful to them now to get there

glacial helm
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Yeah - I have written all this on the forums. I'm just checking that nothing I have written there is complete nonsense. If someone tells me that, I can go edit it, before I establish a reputation.

supple bramble
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What does the School of Construction building provide?

knotty mountain
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Where does one find the metalworking facilities? I've found the woodworking and stoneworking NE of Lionhold, but nothing for metal so far.

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I'm not usually one to ask for spoilers like that, but I've been looking all afternoon, and Google results weren't much help, either.

lament pebble
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West of Lionhold there is tanning metalworking and tailoring

supple bramble
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Meralyth

supple bramble
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All cities have novice metalworking. The Smithy is in Meralyth

lament pebble
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You encounter those otw to church of stars

woeful kestrel
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Stoneworks (East) can do granite/basalt. Smithy (west) has the whole lot.

echo sand
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So for fishing... Do you bait or to be in a certain spot.... I got the fishing pole equipped but it won't work

woeful kestrel
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My fishing is at -2 atm. I fell in the water and got bitten by an otter. I'm not sure what the process of fishing is yet

echo sand
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Lol.. starting to think it's bugged,but I'm not sure if I need other items to fish like bait or lures

wooden briar
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I've also not been able to figure out the fishing

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also, are there any reliable copper node spawns?

woeful kestrel
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You had to throw that key word out there, huh? Reliable.....nope ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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It's a rare spawn atm and quickly harvested when found

wooden briar
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derpy_grin fantastic

bleak wraith
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I've only found a single node in the entire time I looked. Found more tin and iron...which I can't mine.

wooden briar
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I'm in the same boat

woeful kestrel
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Most people are

wooden briar
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K for skills and go to Fishing

lone glacier
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When processing, do you have a chance at a quality bump at each step? IE Wood to timber, then timber to plank

woeful kestrel
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No, not in the current iteration

wooden briar
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would be awesome if it did and the chance of it doing so increased with skill level

lone glacier
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I did get some bumps from white to green, so thats in at least

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with the apprentice shirt/pants

bleak wraith
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Did you use all white/green components?

lone glacier
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yeah 100 white oak, gave me like 97 white, 3 green oak timber

dusk bay
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How does upgrading your certificates work? What skill level do you need to be to go to a station to upgrade etc. apologies if this has been asked or is blatantly obvious ๐Ÿ˜‚

lone glacier
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get to lvl 10, then see appropriate npc to upgrade

pearl crater
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Which town has the table to craft Apprentice hunting bow?

granite berry
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Hi ! Wondering, can we craft commodity for trading ?

woeful kestrel
woeful kestrel
granite berry
tepid notch
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Is there a way to change the stats / etc. on crafted gear if I'm using rare / heroic / legendary mats? Leatherworking skewing towards strength is frustrating

woeful kestrel
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Carpentry can craft crates that can be used on caravans.

woeful kestrel
tepid notch
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Ah, that's good to know. Thank you.

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I'll continue trying it out and seeing if there's anything bugged then

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And assume it'll get better ๐Ÿ˜›

woeful kestrel
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Phase 2, Dec 20, they'll be wiping the servers and implementing a lot more systems and testing. Artistry testing will be during that phase

granite berry
woeful kestrel
lone glacier
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What a first craft, holy. Thought id get Epic

quiet charm
woeful kestrel
lone glacier
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no clue why it came out legendary. Maybe its the +Quality from shirt/pants?

quiet charm
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Yeah, the quality stat seems strong, other crafting skills are seeing similar results

graceful shuttle
#

Anyone chasing Copper Fragments? Iโ€™ve got approx 140 Iโ€™d like to trade for Zinc Frags or Ore

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Based in Miraleth on Vyra

patent narwhal
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Trying to better understand ways to optimize and adjust crafter leveling

lone glacier
patent narwhal
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Did you do it all alone?

woeful kestrel
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Based on the mats he used. He got lucky with a boost upgrade.

lone glacier
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I used 20 epic planks, 1 epic bronze ingot, 1 rare spider thread, and 1 legendary magic powder

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and likely got lucky with the Apprentice carpenter shirt/pants that gives +110 quality or something

patent narwhal
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What level was your crafting?

lone glacier
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although the preview did show Legendary, wasnt a proc (like the processing stuff)

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just level 10 carpentry, super basic. no clue how it works tbh

woeful kestrel
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If only we had an Apprentice Carpentry/lumber building on Resna.... anger

lone glacier
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Just today we got our last T2 station on Vyra, at least I think so

woeful kestrel
potent parcel
flint sapphire
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all day mining and this is the first legendary mat

bleak wraith
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Behold. The Legendary Zinc. There is no other zinc like it. It is the One Zinc to lead us to salvation.

flint sapphire
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Not even sure if ill get to use my high tier mats

chilly cape
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is there any secret to finding gatherable animals for hunting ? Seem hard to find

potent parcel
flint sapphire
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quite true

patent narwhal
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Didnโ€™t they say the resources were higher right now?

flint sapphire
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not complaining tbh i actually like how long it takes

patent narwhal
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So what weโ€™re seeing now shouldnโ€™t be expected at launch

flint sapphire
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found lots of heroic and epic stuff too

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feels like i found more heroic rarity than rare

potent parcel
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And if windsward levels up to 1 first in phase 2, your entire server is fucked for artisan buildings

lone glacier
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Journeyman building requires 2 plots, for a single profession. Even if all mayors coordinated perfectly, atm the best we can get is 10 / 22 professions with their Jounryeman station

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and the costs for T3 buildings are crazy. I dont see more than a few going up on Vyra before the wipe

pearl crater
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Hey all, does anyone know which town on Vyra has the table for crafting an apprentice hunting bow?

real coyote
#

does it matter what fuel you use for crafting?

bleak wraith
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If it has a fuel rating, then no.

bleak zealot
#

So i think i know the answer but ...does anyone know if fine paper crated or bought from a vendor is in the game currently?

desert atlas
#

Where do you get the apprentice hunting bow??

bronze trellis
#

Hey, How do I get the basic apprentice pickaxe needed to mine apprentice ores ? The only Pickaxe I can ever see is the recipe you can buy. Do I need to be a specific level to see it ? I'm stuck on where to go as I can't mine those specific ores but need them to create a Apprentice Pickaxe to progress

bleak wraith
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I'm not sure if you need the pickaxe, specifically. Rather the level and the certification.

bronze trellis
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I have level 10 and cert but it states I need a apprentice axe, is it an actual level requirement?

fickle osprey
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is the third stat on blue+ tools random each time? if I try a second time will it be the same stat type or could it be something else?

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you need the tool as well as the cert except for fish for some reason; you get salmon even with novice pole

chrome shadow
#

anyone able to sell me some Grem skins and cotton?

cunning bolt
#

hey so I got some heroic (5)copper and (5)zinc ore, and I was wondering what is needed to make a longbow.

opaque gate
#

hey anybody know material reqs to craft apprentice pickaxe

mortal dawn
bleak zealot
#

anyone having issues not being able to craft an item even though you have the resources and cert

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for me specifically its Jewelcrafting

agile lintel
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Scrib too. New divine protection scroll

opaque phoenix
#

Anyone else notice oak harvesting is only common and 2 per adolescent and 5 with adult no rarer drops?

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Ah I take it back 50 later I got 5 green from an adult tree

summer elk
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Oak is very hard to proc higher rarity. I cut hundreds and got 1 epic proc, 3 rare, and rest were common/uncommon. This was before having any rarity stats. Getting uncommon shouldnt be too hard though

opaque phoenix
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I've previously only received 3 uncommon total never thought about it until I noticed all rarities hemlock etc

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Have been chopping oak exclusively for node thing though and just got 2 blue so that's new

quiet charm
potent parcel
quiet charm
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Can anyone confirm if you need multiple buildings to upgrade multiple stations. E.g. Stoneworks Quarry needs a vocation building and Hideworks Tanning Workshop needs a vocation building. Do you need two vocation buildings to upgrade them or can you build a single vocation building (the farm) and upgrade both?

quiet charm
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Something seems off with the crafting rarities in general

wooden briar
gloomy barn
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Where to get apprentice fishing shirt

quiet charm
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from the fishing vendor at a Cookhouse in whatever node has built it on your server

gloomy barn
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๐Ÿ†— ๐Ÿซก

wooden canyon
#

Anyone know if there is any way to get "Charm of Fateful fortune" ??

woeful kestrel
#

Anyone with access to a T2 woodhouse let me know some of the base recipes?

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Mainly looking for wood types and quantities if possible

torpid birch
#

In prep for next weekend, where can I actually learn Animal Husbandry? monkaHmm

woeful kestrel
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Learn it as in basic stuff? You're auto given Novice. To train it up, go to the Agricultural Supply (West of Lionhold, across the river).

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There's a stable to the side

torpid birch
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Thank you, and I assume I get mounts the same way i et hunting supply? finding those 'special' mobs around the world? monkaHmm

gentle crypt
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someone know how can I craft Appentice hunting bow ?

woeful kestrel
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Yep. Just grab 'em when you see them. Husbandry will be expensive though, so prep with cash. It's 60+ silver and 100 fuel per recipe

woeful kestrel
torpid birch
woeful kestrel
#

Anytime

torpid birch
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Tried some this weekend for the first time, just overwhelmed trying to figure out everything all at once
Also, can you actually store things in Lionhold?
And can you find all "basic" materials in any area or some materials better in specific areas?

blazing field
#

Can you trade gathering equipment and/or skillkng gear with other players? E.g. pickaxes?

whole minnow
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probably so rare they didn't think anyone would gather one so no point in adding graphics on the item icon ( got it on my first tin mined) ๐Ÿ˜…

woeful kestrel
torpid birch
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Yh i was more wondering if it was prev bugged

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cause i was not able to open it.

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But that answers it, ty ๐Ÿ™‚

woeful kestrel
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It's 'buggy', but usable. If you can't deposit/withdraw, log off/on and you should be able to

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The concern with people losing stuff is from the extra ones you can purchase mostly that I've seen

torpid birch
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That is what i was trying, but then there was a queue KEKW
Thanks for letting me know my train of thought was correct

dense scarab
#

where do you get novice tools?

woeful kestrel
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Novice tools are best found around the crafting huts around East and West of Lionhold. Any specific ones you're after?

dense scarab
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ty, no thats everything. From the Vendor there?

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looked in the node, couldn't find anything there

summer pecan
#

What're the Spider Carcasses used for?

woeful kestrel
dense scarab
#

ty

woeful kestrel
#

Yw ๐Ÿ™‚

woeful kestrel
summer pecan
mild fjord
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Am I just dumb or is copper ore actually hard to find

woeful kestrel
mild fjord
woeful kestrel
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๐Ÿ™‚ Yeah, it's pretty much the main complaint of a lot of tradeskillers atm

mild fjord
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Makes sense, I was beginning to question my sanity thanks for letting me know Iโ€™m sure I could have figured that out with a search of the channel ๐Ÿ˜›