alpha-two-general

[jolly raptor]

where is my rowboat

[loud prism]

🎉

[glass osprey]

[stiff karma]

[autumn arrow]

[timber trench]

Wow you’re such a badass bro. Thanks for letting us know.

[wanton karma]

am i the only one that sees someone named Steven saying shit about Steven? talking in third person?

[thin fiber]

[hushed ivy]

So does this mean I get my beetle mount yet or nah

[sharp ledge]

it does make sense though, if dawson's case had no legs to stand on Pog

[idle hornet]

Dawson’s creek? What?

[umbral widget]

are we getting a new fresh start soon?

[last goblet]

[green goblet]

wrong creek

[elfin owl]

Malevelon Creek?

[rotund knoll]

WTB > Stormcurrent Tidefang Wand

Or 40 stormcurrent emblems

[devout schooner]

wheres my beetle mount

[hardy trout]

At least I dont have to worry about anyone stealing my name xD

[rotund knoll]

You have to check the mailbox

[elfin owl]

Challenge accepted, bud

[hardy trout]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-trust-you-anymore-man-barney-ross-sylvester-stallone-the-expendables-you're-not-trustworthy-gif-9438037630530435242

[elfin owl]

Never should have in the first place, did you think all those Wolf carcasses, Wyrmlings, Copper and Rividium was to help you? Lmao

[crystal sable]

If we are ever able to log in again I will celebrate it with great wine and I will make a cake!

[tranquil coyote]

With the assets transferred back to intrepid TFE no longer has a case this case. Now it is a battle within Intrepid Studio. Rob and Jason will have to file a different lawsuit not under TFE. So the nevada case automatically bacame useless. If they want to pursue a legal battle they will have to file it as the board of Intrepid.

[acoustic harness]

[tribal thicket]

think how much further along the game could be now if it wasnt for this bs

[empty pumice]

That is fine, as long as we can continue with the game, which we should all celebrate. And it cleaned up a lot of toxic, sick people.

[tribal thicket]

at best that would be probably years away at this rate, i mean ill take it if we can play again but man, mmos arent exactly big in numbers already theres 0 mmos i would play rn 🤣

[thorny moat]

still no login?

[empty pumice]

I dont care if it takes years. As long as it stays, it was the only mmo that is actually trying to push boundries. And not a carbon based copy of wow. I would love to work on aoc tbh.

It actually got the game dev in me passionate again in building games. Which has been a long time. What with all the garbage coming out. But for now, im gonna have to stick with just building my own game engine until I get a call.

[stone leaf]

Preach
Ashes genuinely got me thinking about what I actually want from an MMO
I'm rather indifferent on the topic of pve and pvp content, but the idea of incorporating the open world in the endgame loop was just such a breath of fresh air when I got used to MMO endgame being "chill in a hub city while you wait for a raid group to gather, then disappear into an instance for the next 4 hours"

It's such a shame to see MMOs that build a big, beautiful open world, and then only make use of it during the leveling process

[empty pumice]

Yea, even wow didn't used to be like that. But for some reason all mmos went from mmo to instanced based multiplayer grind bullshit. What the hell is still mmo about those games?

[stone leaf]

👆

[broken junco]

I very much enjoyed the idea that PvE could encroach and disturb towns and villages (in the original vision)

[stone leaf]

😔

[empty pumice]

🙄

[azure hull]

💀

[hardy valley]

Something I noticed really quick is that I was standing around A LOT just scrolling through the professions and thinking, there's so much to do, and I immediately like a lot of things, but where the hell do I start? I've never been set loose in an environment with little to no guidance like MSQ or super long cutscene tutorials.

It became something I really liked about the game because it eventually shifted into something that always gave me something to work towards.

Honestly, I miss the game purely for the constant stream of instant positive feedback in the form of rare mats.

[broken junco]

Starting a fight with a mob, realise it ain't gonna go great for you, and extract yourself, is something I haven't seen or really been able to do in other MMO's to the degree Ashes let you.

Also, when the dying starts and everybody is screaming, you could still just play well and recover in absolutely magnificent ways that I also have not seen or been able to emulate elsewhere.

[terse finch]

💯

overall
the impact it had when working together with others
that is what made it feel like an actual mmo for me again

[empty pumice]

I love it when i can dance so hard that it actually keeps my party alive in hard times ❤️
Dancing my way to salvation!

[cobalt imp]

[distant dove]

back Ashes we need you again 🙁

[empty pumice]

[mellow loom]

let me hit my rocks again!

Petalshard don't craft itself

[prime heart]

[light shore]

Holy shit Steven is a legend

[mystic quiver]

dudes we are so back

[languid fossil]

Bards if the game comes back https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTksvfbBP/

[plain tide]

[remote oxide]

[neon shell]

[maiden timber]

[foggy locust]

[fallen bobcat]

gimme ashes

[heady oar]

From the ashes we will rise

[mental ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/smoked-food-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-pour-it-in-ash-gif-23343839

[hexed ingot]

Dawson's Shit Creek

[strange talon]

We need a @vague leaf dev update 😅

[severe pawn]

Let me skin grems in the starting zone !!!

[prime mist]

lol

[jovial pine]

Game still up?

[floral cloud]

[wary hawk]

[thin fiber]

[grizzled fable]

I just wanna hit rocks and dodge pvper bandits again bruhs

[lucid flame]

When next live stream?

[idle hornet]

When your engine gasket goes out. Which should be shortly

[rotund knoll]

[elfin canopy]

[glass salmon]

[hidden axle]

[languid kelp]

[naive brook]

Let's assume Steven wins the lawsuit and he gets Intrepid & AoC back. Then what? Where comes the money and the developers from? I doubt he will find any investors after all that. Even if he gets investors on board... It would take ages to reassemble a team of developers that could continue the work on AoC. How do you guys think all that will work?

[mystic quiver]

we r alrdy back

[delicate ivy]

i would think this from my own perspective. was the job good and enjoyed what I did? then I would probably come back to work for the project.

[high hull]

Let's assume the community will be supportive, optimistic, and will give this project the support it deserves. We expect a game, and nothing more. This community is made up of players… not investors (even if some content creators profit from it…).

[delicate ivy]

Have you seen the players/“supporters”? 🤣🤣

[high hull]

We have to be optimistic in this world or we can loose hope right now.

[delicate ivy]

@high hull it was not about that. Most of the players were just out of patience and just treated stuff a bit unfair I would say. But the rest were just a bunch of grown ups with a 12y old kid attitude. I saw the same bunch this weekend in scars of honour discord

[autumn frigate]

I just want my Stufferton mount, thats all

[empty pumice]

The game will do the work. People need to get over the fact about this idea of a companies reputation. If it was really that important, Blizzard would not be alive. With all the allegations that went on there. Or Volkswagen, pepsi or any company that has done very shady things. No one cares if the product is worth it.

[thick bay]

as i said in the past if there is a monthly/yearly subscription like in wow i would pay it

[frosty abyss]

We need AoC back, just put a contribution subs for the Alpha, that will give future skin, anything else..

[empty pumice]

👆

[frosty abyss]

A “founder-style contribution sub” that grants:

future skins / cosmetics
maybe early access perks
some kind of legacy status

…is proven to work. Games like Star Citizen and even parts of World of Warcraft (collector editions, mounts, etc.) have shown people will pay upfront for identity and exclusivity.

[rotund knoll]

I will just start a media company and I'll advertise Ashes of Creation using my own creator content. I will claim game skins as a business write-off.
🧠 💡

[empty pumice]

we?

[iron shard]

[thin fiber]

[dim iris]

servers up?

[viral copper]

I wish

[proven quarry]

If he manages to recover at least the tech leaders, it will already be a great breakthrough, that is, if he is not already with them... I hope everything will work out as soon as possible

[plush light]

I wanna recover the money

[kind prism]

Well, the Technical Director has joined Riot Games on their MMO, so he's gone

[wanton karma]

nothing stopping riot buying ashes and just using their wold map instead.

their "summonera code" would ban half of the playerbase though

[bold steeple]

no no no riot doesnt need aoc, hope they offer and evolving world, but not in the sense of node evolves and world evolves together.
I hope there is a estabilished villages, towns, cities in riot mmo, but everything outside those is dynamic and evolving. I think town evolution like node and what new world had if we leave it at player agency it is too much annoying.

Unless when we try to take out the mayor its like 1 click only, and fast. ofc it will have a cooldown... but it needs to be one click and fast.

or maybe some system of hybrid comando, where at first npcs are the ones who rules cities and after some time players can have a bit of agency after lots of rep+ they got with the npc or so, doing missions, tasks, quests ,etc.
But right from the start annoying as hell.
Its cool more later, but beginning aint it, aoc node system got pretty annoying with these dumb guilds thinking they are some shit running stuff.

[hazy pine]

Yes, if Steven wins and manages to find the funding to restart the project, it will take a lot of time. The one reassuring thing is that Ashes was already in a more or less playable state. And while all this turmoil gradually settles down, I think they could relaunch the servers, collect data from them, and focus, for example, on server stability.

[elfin owl]

he would need to keep the servers to a small sample size of teeters though, when they moved over to Steam, it open the flood gates to a lot of bad actors who were using Ashes to make money through RMTs and such.

[hazy pine]

You can’t roll back the copies that have already been sold. At the very least, they could grant access to those who already purchased the game and temporarily stop selling new copies. But this is an MMORPG, and people want to play with their friends — if someone’s friend can’t buy the game and join them, that’s a problem.

I agree that RMT in an alpha hurts the gameplay, but at the same time it gives developers insight into how to fight it by release. In any case, in a proper MMO where developers don’t decide to sell gold or items themselves, this will always be an ongoing war. There will always be people trying to break the system, and a security team trying to stop them.

With Ashes’ model, the stronger the enforcement, the higher the price of in-game currency becomes — and the more people will try to exploit the system for their own benefit.****

[elfin owl]

I’m not disagreeing with the fact that RMTs will ruin a game, it happened in almost all MMOs, the problem is that it was happening during development. Breaking the game during an alpha needs to happen so that the developers know where to fix it, however when you are still building the world and dealing with breaks, you stretch your folks really thin. I’m wondering if maybe going back and only allowing the testers prior to the Steam release would be the preferred method.

[hazy pine]

Well, as someone who bought the game before Steam, I wouldn’t be too upset 😄 But for example, in my group there were people who purchased the game on Steam — like a husband who pre-ordered it, and then his wife joined us later via Steam. So what do you do in a case like that?

[elfin owl]

Review each on a case by case basis, it’d be slow but at the very least, you’d be able to allow testers and not some new account coming on strictly for RMT

[hazy pine]

As much as I’d like to debate this, in the context of what’s actually happening, we’re still very far from that point. At release, 80–90% of this problem could be solved by having 1–2 GMs per server who, in addition to algorithms and other systems, would literally fly around the server in GM mode and invisibility, respond to reports, and personally detect bots.

[elfin owl]

Oh I know, I’m talking more about what could happen. I have my doubts simply because we’re still early in the courts. Just sitting back and watching what happens at this point

[hazy pine]

Unfortunately, yes — we’re just sitting and watching. It still feels crazy to me that a successful and promising project ended up in this situation. Even in alpha, it’s the best MMO I’ve ever played. And when I start thinking “what if” and “what when…”, it gets downright depressing… my red-haired bard-fighter named Kvothe is sitting there, crying while waiting for Ashes

And by the way, if you like the world of Ashes, you can read The Kingkiller Chronicle for now — it’s my “Ashes” of the fantasy book world. It gives you literally the same feeling, when you read something and then for a year you can’t pick up any other books because everything else just feels off.
It’s basically that same “nothing else compares anymore” feeling. The Kingkiller Chronicle

[elfin owl]

There’s a lot of people that thoroughly enjoyed it, everybody had their own reasons for playing it and aspects that they enjoyed. I knew people that loved being a mayor and running a node, I knew people that loved running caravans or diving into POIs or gathering or processing, even people that loved the PVE and PVP combat. There was something for everybody. Personally, I liked having Guild events each week, we would have massive Crafting events where someone would pop buffs and construct amazing armor and weapons for people. I loved crafting for that very reason, I got to see what sort of weapons I was crafting for people.

[iron shard]

I have hope it’ll return

[elfin owl]

ehh, I'm always a pessimist, we shall see. I'd love for it to return but it's still really early to call

[hazy pine]

Yeah, that’s exactly where Ashes shines… everyone had their own thing to do.

For example, I never hauled packs — except for guild runs in our group, it was kind of bad etiquette 😄 — and unfortunately I never got around to doing ship combat or building a ship either. We were more focused on market trading and tailoring.

Even within a 5-man group, we basically specialized: one crafter per profession, while the rest handled trading, transporting resources, monitoring prices, and finding buyers. And still, we made a lot of gold, geared up really well, and were consistently taking down Tummok for weeks in a row…

Ashes… Ashes 😄

[iron shard]

I mean it’s just a wait and see now but would be amazing for it to return

[hazy pine]

I really believe in Ashes in this situation, and that development will continue for one simple reason: it was a great game. And it had a strong response — things like that don’t just disappear. The market will decide.

The legal case will end, an investor will be found, and the game is already around 60% done…

And in the worst-case scenario, I hope it still becomes an example for the industry that games like this are needed.

[iron shard]

game still had a long way to go but was a very fun alpha to play

[elfin owl]

I didn't like Caravans or Node runs tbh, it was just too slow for me and I got really impatient lol, my main thing was Weaponsmithing, Hunting/Gathering, and POIs for boss drop mats,recipe and stuff.

[rotund knoll]

This is my girl; her name is Thunder
#1484680149126615261 message

We were as fast as a bard (165 speed)
And we were slightly slower than Lightning

[elfin owl]

noice, I loved making money off of selling critters to Guildies, I did a lot of my work at night (since I work overnight from home) and would gather Birds, Basilisks, Gryphons, etc.

[rotund knoll]

I had a hunter/fisher alt
My main did lumberjack, herbalism, mining, Metalworking, stonework

💪

[winged wraith]

Armor smith!

[rotund knoll]

I needed medium armor as a tank 😌 Leatherworkers profit came from me for sure

[rotund knoll]

Carphin heavy armor as well as Gravepeak's set were both really good heavy sets

Also, Malgorach's Heart

• Magic - Physical Armor Chestpiece

[hazy pine]

ohh i want to ask. Is some one kill Curvus lord, and Corvin in gravepick? )

[rotund knoll]

Yes

[hazy pine]

u just kill alot of ravens?

[rotund knoll]

Quest Spawn

[hazy pine]

is it reapiteble?

[elfin owl]

I had 3 characters, my main was my gatherer (rogue because of the grapple hook), my secondary was my crafter (Weaponsmithing, was working towards Armor before the Feb drop), and then my Processing toon had my fast lion mount to go to one of the major nodes for processing.

[rotund knoll]

It is a 1 time quest.
The quest item mentions "Midnight"

2 pre-cusor quests begins in Lionshold.

• Horns of Betrayal
  And a hidden quest
• Collection of King Jarrak's Law

And another quest in Oakenbane Cemetery

• The Sword of Tri Sanctus

This tells you the 3 moons must align.

At midnight (in-game) every time the 3 moons were in the right order, you can start this quest if you had done these pre-cursor quests.

The item description in Ashes Codex for the ring I believe also talks about midnight.

[winged wraith]

I was slow playing it and had just hit 25 the night before the ptr.. I was high on armor Smith but was just really getting into it.
Was sad I spent the last 24 hours trying to play the ptr but just running into queue boss even tho I signed in the moment it was up lol was surely a load test.
I am not holding ky breath but the game scratched an itch thats been awhile. I check here every few weeks to see what's going on lol

[rotund knoll]

Next big news is gonna be after the May 19th Court Date

[elfin owl]

I was level 30 Weaponsmith, was working on getting my pants up to Epic. Once I did that, I was gonna slowly work towards Armorsmith

[rotund knoll]

I have probably 4K to 5K hours in Ashes of Creation

[iron shard]

hoping it goes well

[rotund knoll]

[iron shard]

was so excited for the class system mainllly ofc necromancer and soulweaver and shadowlord

[languid sinew]

the last one, turn off the light

[sleek comet]

Ashes of Court cases - litigation will drag on until everything built is obsolete.

[tardy snow]

I hope ashes will return

[left raft]

m2

[plain tide]

[short kiln]

[ornate locust]

[thin fiber]

[wanton karma]

thats not even 10%...
90% retention after the company suddenly fired 100% of its staff is kind of a really good sign

[shut leaf]

wish it wasnt this bad but it started higher #alpha-two-general message

[jolly raptor]

Idk boys but discord members isn't a metric you should pay much attention to

[elfin owl]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-tell-you-how-to-live-your-life-patrick-patrick-star-spongebob-sb-gif-5403156173125867913

[empty pumice]

[acoustic harness]

[dense flame]

At the moment this is about support and hope. If you are not able or willing to hope and support, better just wait till you are instead of posting.

[tawdry pumice]

[terse kindle]

Yep,but thats be a long journey i mean depends how long will be court!

[empty pumice]

[pine forge]

[maiden timber]

[long turtle]

[broken junco]

[thin fiber]

[astral osprey]

[wooden cave]

[young brook]

[hearty sinew]

[mystic quiver]

we r so back!!!!

[delicate trout]

Is ON???

[steel wing]

[pine vale]

[boreal sail]

Steven the Fraudster at it again huh

[thin fiber]

[steady niche]

[plain tide]

[steady niche]

Even if the chances are slim. The rise again champion, samurai, like a phoenix, etc. narrative is one I can get behind.

[fervent vine]

[cobalt imp]

[hazy pine]

[sacred ibex]

[boreal sail]

Not sure where people think the funding for ashes would come from

[rough knot]

It comes from the same place it came the 1st time. And regrows properly if done right. Money i dont believe is the issue to rebuild its time, court proceedings, community support, & dev teams willingness to work longterm.

[boreal sail]

trhey sunk 120mil.....

probably 3-4 years from completion. Just saying

[rough knot]

Agreed its a long ways from possibility but the money isn't the priority or issue. It's the legal rights and community support. Then the teams commitment to rebuild. If you take any monetary values out then your left with a big uphill legal process and regaining trust of anyone involved to support the next stages.

[boreal sail]

The only way this works is if a big player picks it up honestly.

[hollow hornet]

If it is true that this is all a malicious fabrication then a countersuit should be in progress as well. That will surely help with the funding of the game, as all those devs expertise, lost dev time on the project trashing timelines, reputation in the industry that may affect rehiring, any subsequent contracts that may have defaulted, and public reputation (goodwill) all hold massive value to the company, plus there should be punitive costs incurred as well. All that may very well combine to be many times that value of the suit against Intrepid depending on how it all shakes out.

[boreal sail]

the money is gone this is just over rights at this point

[vast inlet]

[severe berry]

[modern tide]

Best "self funded" mmo evar!

[thorny marsh]

what does funded mean

[modern tide]

Depends on what your definition of "is" is.

[thin fiber]

[sonic axle]

Maybe im mentally Ill but I'd easily pay a standard mmo sub for ashes if it came back in alpha. Im guessing im in a miniority but curious if it would be enough to fund some of the infrastructure costs. They cannot operate with no income again

[empty pumice]

[acoustic harness]

[plain adder]

[indigo shoal]

[mighty plinth]

[lunar walrus]

same. Mostly out of desperation. But i dont think that would be close to enough. That company was so mismanaged they were just vomiting money out. They needed a re-calibration a long time ago, just way too many people for how little was getting done, plus having to pay them in pretty much the most expensive place possible to have developers

[fickle ermine]

i played 111 hours of ashes of creation in 1 month of release. i miss that game fr

[empty pumice]

The only thing we can do, is hope it will be realigned.

[acoustic harness]

When hope belongs not to just one person, nor to a few people, but to an entire community, then that means that hope is forged by something that allows that community to "have that hope."
If something has the power to generate hope even in its worst moments, then it means that that something has "that special something."

[tranquil coyote]

If things are as simple as that we wouldn't be in this situation. The first thing that should be done before getting the servers back online for us is to pay the developers.

[upbeat mica]

i loved this game while it was up. i'd gratefully pay a sub

[acoustic harness]

Hope is not something to be taken lightly; it is something one chooses because that "hope" has a meaning created by facts and events that demonstrated that this "hope" has the "potential" to inspire others to have faith in it.

[acoustic harness]

Definitely one of the first things that should be done. But I'd like Dawson to pay for them; he bears a lot of responsibility for that.

[sonic axle]

Again, maybe mentally Ill hot take here but I'd even pay a monthly sub if the servers were not up. Like for an exclusive behind the scene dev blog or something. A lot of creators fund their projects this way through patreon. I understand this is at a way larger scale but itd be cool to have that option if it were clear choosing it would make a difference.

[tranquil coyote]

As things are right now if everything the board did to take control of the company is within the law, they have all the responsibilities in their hands to pay every single cent. Steven resigned and technically no longer apart of the company and has very small shares left, so I don't know what else can he do.
However if that turns out to be illegal, Steven would need to pay the developers. That is if he even has any money to pay them. Can he even brings his old team back? The trust between them has been broke beyond redemption. Are there even anyone willing to inject investment or buy the IP to salvage what's left of it. Whatever the outcome is seeing the server comes back online is the very last thing it will be. 🎩

[acoustic harness]

https://youtu.be/7Yx-xpqf-x8?si=i86t6np23td8f1J9

This is going to happen

[thin fiber]

[forest galleon]

no I agree, there is no freaking good MMO its a draught out here

[opal flower]

[odd cairn]

[ocean oriole]

[empty pumice]

Well, there are quite a few people here that never lost hope, me included. Because that is all we can have in this day and age. No matter how dark it gets, I will not lose hope. That is what this project is worth. Our dedication.

All the rest is just useless noise.

[bright summit]

All of the other mmos are not my taste, somehow ashes filled a void in me, and it was not even a half complete game

[rotund knoll]

[hearty sinew]

[elfin canopy]

[iron parcel]

Why do people spam this retarded pheonix emote

[broken junco]

[spice hawk]

love you @vague leaf, wishing you luck. What you were creating was truly amazing.

[hexed ingot]

so we should get a response from the defendants by the 7th according to todays filing?

gonna be interesting to see what narrative they're gonna try

[autumn shadow]

[strange talon]

[compact loom]

The game may be gone but atleast I can play Gloria victis again I suppose.

[hexed ingot]

couldnt do it

[compact loom]

lol

[burnt pelican]

you mean what @vague leaf I S creating, he aint done just gotta pause to deal with the haters 🙏

[spice hawk]

❤️ since i can't put an emote on your message.

[acoustic harness]

Shhhhh don't waste the hidden card

[spice hawk]

@iron parcel Just for you

[runic dragon]

To make you mad

[maiden timber]

[acoustic harness]

[shut leaf]

[proven quarry]

I just wanted to be doing my pickup to make my items lv29

[wise wyvern]

Is the game even still up or not?

[spice hawk]

[jaunty junco]

[autumn arrow]

[thin fiber]

[plain tide]

[thin fiber]

[plain tide]

[autumn arrow]

[elfin canopy]

[restive crypt]

[acoustic harness]

[lean kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/ashes-of-creation-gif-21770381

[long crescent]

Open fucking game

[glass salmon]

[rotund knoll]

Game is down for an extensive update. Gotta wait for the patch notes.

[acoustic harness]

I'm going to cum when I see a “next livestream” notification

[tawdry pumice]

👀

[frail tree]

you complain about how the world treats you yet look how you treat the world in which you control

[valid bay]

2 years for project to be back in same position. I know allot of backers/players are just itching to get back in. Let it cook guys, let it cook. Patience is a virtue

[daring river]

Are we done? 😭

[empty pumice]

Nice 🤣 That's a great way to look at it.

[worthy herald]

I wish that were the case but it's gone forever

[hearty sinew]

[tawny harness]

after all of this, noone will work for stev...

[edgy sandal]

Guilds who helped hurt ashes of creation -Aura(barcode), any guild Srixun was a part of, Polar, Enveus, Black crown, EVERY Brazillian guild "Ordem", Death and taxes, EVERY FED guild. should ashes ever continue Steven needs to make sure these failed abvrtions never gain access to the game again

[cobalt imp]

[jolly raptor]

polar did this 💯

[maiden oriole]

[spice stump]

[thin fiber]

[autumn arrow]

Cats with Abs on top

[dense flame]

[azure hull]

[plain adder]

[strange talon]

[grizzled cairn]

Polar alrdy ruined Scars of Honor, Monsters and Memories is alrdy being ruined by them now

[fathom moon]

Polar ran over my dog

[mystic quiver]

dudes we are so back!!!

[grizzled cairn]

one day game decs will loearn to just ban the bad apple guilds outright

[strange escarp]

Or, you know, maybe fix the exploits and bugs that were being used instead, as opposed to associating an entire group with guilt while also leaving the broken mechanics in the game.

[grizzled cairn]

its more than one guild group that goes around to each MMO and just tries to ruin everyones time and the game itself. Ever think maybe THEY are the problem

[strange escarp]

I dunno man, I've never played such a horrible mmo that one guild or group could ruin the entire game.... 😐

[fathom moon]

We need to adopt what South Korea does and require SSNs or government ID to have an account

[strange escarp]

Because Americans/elsewhere has NEVER had vpn access to a korean SSN game, like any under Nexon. This isn't even an actual solution lol.

[thin fiber]

[fathom moon]

True I bought a few Korean accounts in my time lol

[wary hawk]

[hidden axle]

[rugged elbow]

😂

[normal oracle]

Pirate Software..(Can't remember The Actual Guild Name, But they made the Server Untenable)

[real mulch]

how did polar ruin scars lmfao they played the game for like 3h and logged off

[strange escarp]

Lol i love the honesty dude.

[blissful terrace]

Are the servers still up 😆? If so anyone want to do a Carp run 😆

[maiden timber]

[limber otter]

Who are you and what did Black Crown (a guild of literally like 10 people at the time) do to hurt you 🤣

[outer estuary]

[empty pumice]

[long crescent]

Hijos de mil puta

[indigo python]

Lol what

[tawdry pumice]

[gloomy prawn]

[empty pumice]

To annoy you

[willow zephyr]

[alpine fossil]

I miss this lovely community. Bring ashes back

[opal flower]

[hazy pine]

[heady oar]

[opal flower]

@iron parcel I do it, in support of the game, I'm hoping for a revival in any form. It's to show " here I am waiting."

[rain hill]

[odd cairn]

[mortal crystal]

[spiral kestrel]

[ocean oriole]

[mental vortex]

[wanton karma]

[wanton karma]

[dense grove]

[plain tide]

[fluid urchin]

"Conversely, TFE is working tirelessly to restart operations and ultimately deliver Ashes of Creation to the gaming industry". Biggest late April's fools xD

Working tirelessly to steal the assets so they can ship it to Asia to make some pay to win trash with an AoC skin on top.

[hearty sinew]

[tawdry pumice]

[thin fiber]

[prisma pollen]

I highly highly doubt TFE and crew have any interest in finishing a game.

[agile crystal]

I dont think, there will be something till Q4... no team, no servers, it will take some time to build something up

[hexed ingot]

yeah dawsons lawyer response to nefas was definitely not believable at this point

[fluid urchin]

If anything it's a big smoking gun of their dishonesty. Really, the random finance guys board with no experience in game making (much less a hugely complex MMORPG) are working tirelessly to deliver the game? After mass firing nuking the company? At least make it somewhat believable. Unless they mean "send it to Asia, make pay to win trash, skin AoC on top"... if that's what they mean by "Ashes of Creation" I guess they're actually being honest xD

[hexed ingot]

They wanted it to be offshored for dev initially and theres no chance they'd change their mind on that IF they were serious about wanting to finish it ( they are not serious about it)

[soft maple]

[thin fiber]

[calm hatch]

#bringbackashes

[rotund knoll]

Alpha Backers have known all along that Steven is the DADDY of good business

[manic quiver]

So your telling me there a chance 🙂

[rose basin]

edit: whut, no more gifs?

[rotund knoll]

Not in this channel.
This channel is reserved for Steven only gifs and emoji reactions.
That's why we here....
#Privilege

[jolly raptor]

id rather have gifs

[rotund knoll]

The Public Vote is

• we want gifs

[smoky ocean]

steven? are servers back up yet?

[acoustic harness]

[rotund knoll]

[empty pumice]

[dense flame]

[wispy cloak]

@vague leaf I’m with with you dude! Make AoC great again!

[cobalt imp]

[errant garnet]

[autumn arrow]

[maiden timber]

[thin fiber]

[willow vale]

Imo AOC was always great. And getting better.

I'd be happy with it being back again.

[pine forge]

[teal sage]

AoC Rogue combat being as good as it is is legitimately reason enough for me to forget this ever happened if the game returned lol

Whovere did combat design for this game needs to make their own

[strange talon]

Tbf it needed more iteration, but definitely was looking forward to it

[jolly raptor]

nah rogue needed buffs #nobias

[elfin owl]

I did love the Rogue in AoC, could definitely use some improvements like the whole fall damage thing after a grapple hook.

[teal sage]

Like getting it or? I never noticed anything crazy with fall damage and grapple. I also used extended tool belt so I had an extra use

[elfin owl]

I did too, but there was fall damage where if you didn’t grab an edge or you overshot, you’d take damage on the way down.

[strange talon]

I like beuclers power point, but don’t think it was realistic for retention or engagement. The FTUE needed several iterations if not redone entirely. Engagement should’ve came from completing the systems they currently had, classes, races, character creation, freeholds, artisan. Iterations of gear, level cap, dungeon mechanics, economy mechanics alone would’ve held retention. Reducing half the headcount and becoming a remote space that is able to track performance metrics seems like a solid move as well. Headcount reduction happens all the time even at larger scales it’s a necessary part of every industry. The none pto etc is pretty low, but it was the start of the new year, most companies don’t carry this over. Aside from that idk when will ashes be officially recovering or buried. Think may 19th is our next update?

[stone leaf]

well yes but actually no but actually kinda

nah

perchance

[empty pumice]

what game you talking about ?

[stone leaf]

nah
we all bought in for the vision
just wished steven had disclosed there were outside investors to begin with

[empty pumice]

I would be very surprised if there werent ...

[stone leaf]

if anything, alpha in itself delivered on the promise of an mmo with a functional open world gameplay loop
really scratched my archeage itch there

[empty pumice]

And no, you dont need to feel stupid about buying the game, the game is good. The problem is that outsiders want to steal the game and sell it for a lot of profit.

Technology and assets ... they are worth quite a bit.

[delicate ivy]

don't bother Banemus, he's been doing this for quite a while 😄

[stone leaf]

idk, steven stated time and time again that all the funding is coming out of his own pocket
I felt kinda scammed when I found out a board of investors exists

[empty pumice]

Depends on what you understand "own pocket".... If he took loans and debt for it on his own name then yes, this would be considered his own pocket.

[thin fiber]

[empty pumice]

[plain adder]

[odd cairn]

[wary hawk]

[maiden timber]

[azure hull]

[strange talon]

[glossy niche]

[strange talon]

A disgruntled peasant approaches ‘!’
“Help!” he shouts.
As you acknowledge the peasant, he leans in close, voice shaking with equal parts rage and fear.

“Our sandaled friend, Stephenous the Triumphant, has lost his mind!”
“He’s convinced himself that spreading corruption through lies—just for temporary gain—is… justified!”
“Help us rid him of this brain rot! A thief only steals our salaries… but a liar corrupts our very reality!”

He spits to the side, trembling.

“Do you understand what that means? If truth bends, everything bends…”

Before you can respond, his expression changes—like he remembers something worse.
His voice drops.

“But… Stephenous isn’t even the real problem.”

He glances over his shoulder toward the distant trade road.

“There’s something else. Something watching him.”

New Threat Revealed

“A serpent… called Dawson.”

“They call it the Serpent Lair Consul…”

The peasant swallows hard.

“Dawson doesn’t steal coin. He steals trade secrets, supply routes, pricing networks… everything that makes a town function.”

He points toward Stephenous’ direction.

“Stephenous is just a pawn. A loud one. Useful for distraction. While Dawson tightens his grip on every deal, every ledger, every whispered contract.”

Quest Objectives Updated
Investigate Stephenous’ “corruption broadcasts” (0/3 sources found)
Trace Dawson’s influence through trade routes (0/5 nodes uncovered)
Decide who to confront:
The loud liar (Stephenous)
The silent manipulator (Dawson)
Or neither… and exploit both

The peasant looks at you one last time.

“We don’t need a hero.”

“We need someone who understands which kind of monster destroys a world faster.”

Now it’s your turn—what direction do you take this quest?

[empty pumice]

[little rivet]

[jolly raptor]

why llm garbage

[solid imp]

AoC 2 when ?

[thin fiber]

[grizzled cairn]

when ashes come back they need to remember to ban Polar

[brazen anvil]

if i could have, i would've given thumbs up to this

[errant garnet]

I was a rogue too.. bring me my grapple hook back 😝

[teal sage]

It was crazy fun

[somber cove]

it was fun but it was also super frustrating to play against

[thin fiber]

[plain tide]

[jolly raptor]

ban polar and everyone involved with that "private server" scam

[rotund knoll]

A young adventurer approaches later that night.

His skin tanned from the desert sun and glowing brightly from the blessings of the Djinni. Transparent robes cover his torso and legs as a defense against sandstorms.

He speaks softly:
"I am a priest of worship. Chosen by the followers of Toren legends. I've heard of malicious intent against the man who wears sandals."
He pauses to drink some water before continuing. "I have been sent with support of the Gods to reveal the true intentions of both mortal coils bound to this world. I shall not falter as I accept this quest which will lead to the blessings of the otherworldly powers and a metropolis brought back to life from history long forgotten."

• Quest Accepted

[hexed ingot]

are they still trying that nonsense?

[thin fiber]

[hexed ingot]

i see steven narrowed the powers hes requesting the receiver to have so they should have no reason to deny it being put in place now unless they really have something to hide

[past valley]

I never understood the making a private server for an incomplete game

[hexed ingot]

to take any actions required, including legal
action, to halt ongoing actions undertaken by any party, or by non-party shareholder
Jason Caramanis, and any of their agents or representatives, that are harming the value
of Intrepid’s assets (including, but not limited to, public disparagement of Intrepid
and its assets and associated parties, along with public disclosure of Company
confidential information)

probably for the best

[jolly raptor]

Haven't seen them post about it but they were still in the server chatting here a few days ago

[hexed ingot]

well if polars involved with it in anyway good reason to avoid it like the plague

[jolly raptor]

With other games it's the same ppl restarting the servers every few months under different names to try to scam more ppl. I doubt it would be any different here

[thin fiber]

[abstract lake]

[thorny chasm]

[normal quail]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-27687064

[thin fiber]

[acoustic slate]

Are we so back?

[thin fiber]

back? we never left.

[thin fiber]

[glass salmon]

[strange talon]

The priest kneels beside the fire as the desert winds howl through the weathered stone roads of New Aela.

Above the settlement, the night sky stretches endlessly.

The skybox is breathtaking.

Ancient constellations shimmer overhead, brighter than any torchlight. Some resemble warriors. Others serpents. One appears to hold a sword pointed toward the southern horizon.

Beyond the walls of New Aela, deep within the jungles of the Jundark, enormous caverns pulse faintly with green light.

Something ancient waits there.

Something awake.

The disgruntled peasant steps forward once more, carrying an ancient weapon wrapped in faded cloth.

With trembling hands, he unveils it.

A radiant blade hums softly beneath the stars.

Item Received: The Sword of a Thousand Truths

Runes crawl across the steel as though the blade itself despises deception.

The peasant carefully hands the sword to the priest.

“Take it…”

“If Stephenous can still be saved, this blade will reveal what remains of him.”

The priest accepts the weapon.

For a brief moment, every constellation above New Aela glows brighter.

Then suddenly—

A scream echoes from the outer gate.

“Seven save us!”

Villagers scatter as distant horns bellow from the jungle roads.

The peasant turns pale.

“Be warned…”

“There are old legends buried beneath the Jundark.”

He points toward the distant caverns.

“A Hydra.”

“Cut off one serpent’s head… and another rises in its place.”

The campfire flickers violently.

“Stephenous may be loud. Dawson may be cunning. But neither may truly be the head.”

The priest closes his eyes.

“Then this tribunal shall reveal the truth.”

He turns toward the jungle horizon.

“The Snake Counsel and Stephenous the Sandaled are scheduled for judgment within the Serpent Pit itself.”

A low rumble echoes from the jungle depths.

The stars above seem almost to shift position.

Watching.

Quest Updated
Ashes of Dominion — Tribunal of the Serpent Pit
Main Objectives
Travel to the Serpent Pit within the Jundark
Attend the Tribunal of Stephenous and the Snake Counsel
Reveal hidden corruption using the Sword of a Thousand Truths
Survive the Hydra’s influence
Shape the future of New Aela
Development Path Unlocked
Priest Ascension

Complete this questline to fulfill your development and ascend into the rank of:

High Priest of Toren

Ascension Rewards Include:

Divine Djinni blessings
Exclusive ceremonial robes
Access to forbidden scriptures
Ale beyond mortal limitation
All the gold you could eat
The admiration of nobles, adventurers, and tavern maidens alike

As the priest rises, the Sword of a Thousand Truths casts shimmering reflections across the dunes.

The skybox above New Aela burns with impossible beauty.

And somewhere deep within the Jundark…

The serpents prepare their tribunal.

To Be Continued…
Stay tuned for the next update arriving ~May 19th!

[minor flare]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wait-what-78--k01KR07AQASSSEG3NR1G6WD1Z96

[tall bridge]

cinema

[rotund knoll]

[acoustic harness]

[elfin canopy]

[dense flame]

[maiden timber]

[empty pumice]

[terse finch]

if ashes returns I need this to be ingame lol

[wispy cloak]

❤️

[cobalt imp]

[plain tide]

[oblique cypress]

Go go go , steven Seagull

[vital bobcat]

[pine forge]

[thin fiber]

[willow zephyr]

[wary hawk]

[hearty patrol]

[hidden axle]

[abstract lake]

💪 👍

[plain adder]

[ocean frost]

[thin fiber]

[errant garnet]

[maiden timber]

[wanton karma]

[trail tendon]

What the..

[hexed ingot]

should get a response from dawson & co tonight

[kind prism]

According to Nefas it's planned to be a "substantial" response according to one of his "sources"

[hexed ingot]

cant be more than 40 pages according to the filing that just came out

[kind prism]

Well, at least he said something substantial was being filed this week

I took it to mean substantial in terms of impact, not length but idk

[hexed ingot]

i just know todays the deadline for them to respond

[edgy sandal]

can we just do a trial by combat and get this shit over with already

ive believed in Steven for a long time, i believe he will come out on top with this case, THEN he just needs to counter sue and end up settling out of court for what ever the amount it will take to fully develop this game. solid plan

[hexed ingot]

guess I got banned from his discord after leaving it

how the turn tables

[simple bronze]

@hexed ingot did u made ur lego book or no ? XD

[hexed ingot]

NO I DID NOT

[simple bronze]

hahaha XD im sorry but it was the bug not my fault at the end truth came out lol

[hexed ingot]

never got the recipe for alchemy elixirs either its truly tragic

[simple bronze]

hahaha we had mats for like 10 lego books but couldnt get the money in town then aoc died and next mayor got 10k gold refunded in town lol

[hexed ingot]

ars incandaris my beloved

[smoky ocean]

update anything new happen since nevada lawsuit dismissal?

[hexed ingot]

gonna be getting the defendants response and counter motion filed sometime today

[thin fiber]

[unkempt current]

Boring... Any newer news?

[hexed ingot]

courts are notoriously slow so no

[unkempt current]

when is the next update?

[hexed ingot]

defendents respond by today, stevens has until the 28th to respond to that and they then have til june 4th to reply to any opposition and the hearing would be on june 11th

like i said slow

[jolly raptor]

i thought next news is on the 19th? what happend to that

[hexed ingot]

tfes intent to file a counter motion

The hearing date for the Motion and Counter-Motion shall be June 11, 2026;
however, the Court will issue a separate order setting argument should the Court determine
oral argument is necessary.

[fervent vine]

[thin fiber]

[hollow lagoon]

I salute you all. The violin players still playing while the titanic sinks.

https://tenor.com/view/titanic-titanic-orchestra-nearer-my-god-to-thee-sink-drown-gif-5606158

[dim breach]

I LOVE YOU STEVEN WHEN THIS IS ALL OVER TREAT ME LIKE THE JP MORGAN CEO WOULD PLZ

[karmic lance]

today i got myself thinking about the time i spent in ashes and it brought a tear to my eye. Hopefully we will be able to see this project come through in the end. one way or another.

[dim breach]

me too, i made alot of friends...the start grinds with 8 for days on end, guildies delivering weapons...the mayors, the mounts, THE SHIPS...the giants....oh those useless cannons....

i miss you srixon

[plain tide]

[empty pumice]

when is the next update btw?

On the court stuff

[delicate ivy]

wasn't on 19th?

[empty pumice]

[empty pumice]

thanks !

[terse kindle]

Did they change the date?!

[delicate ivy]

i think this is what will happen #alpha-two-general message

[rotund knoll]

Holy Freaking Dockets Batman 🤯

+7 dockets
+22 exhibits
I am willing to bet the lawyers are grabbing as much money as they can since they know the investors have money.

[mighty plinth]

[thin fiber]

[fickle canopy]

What’s the tea curls

[blazing oak]

aoc coming back? xd

[cobalt imp]

[strange talon]

[thin fiber]

[vital gate]

I kinda miss this game ngl

[strange talon]

Anyone got the link?

[mystic quiver]

any news?

[empty pumice]

May 15 — Steven’s amended complaint (more evidence drops).
May 19 — The receiver hearing. This hearing will decide whether a neutral party takes control of the company and investigates what happened.

[strange talon]

[rotund knoll]

Looks like Dawson, Theresa, and Ryan put in a good amount of attachments trying to discredit Steven's "urgency" and are trying to create reason to stop the trial or find a settlement.

I don't pay for the dockets, so someone who does will have better info.

[plush kestrel]

Settle as in they lose?

[rotund knoll]

No, settlements usually are a neutral agreement.

I would think they are just trying to find the correct person(s) to look at the company without risking the financial evaluation... the part that is important

• We want to see how the company debt was handled, but they are trying to find a way to say there is no reason.

  It could be deflection and pointing to other issues, it could be from their own opinions, and many other things.
  If I bought the dockets and " supporting evidence" I could tell you more precisely.

[hexed ingot]

settlements is both parties agreeing to something that isnt 100pct what they want

[rotund knoll]

🍻

Thanks Leshrac
Did you see all the additions from yesterday?

[hexed ingot]

yep

got all of them right now

[plush kestrel]

Ah ok I kinda thought a settlement was when someone knew they was going to lose so instead of being dragged through the long costly process they cut it short and agree to a lesser cost with far less headache if that makes sense ?

This is what I learned from suits that’s literally the extent of my knowledge on this stuff 😂

[plain tide]

[delicate ivy]

I'm a pretty good lawyer as well after watching all those seasons 🤣

[thin fiber]

[grizzled cairn]

Polar has moved to Monsters and Memories for the next game to ruin

[bold steeple]

Damn cant believe i am addicted to farever, aoc needs to come back sooner. But farever cool for what it offer

[maiden timber]

Farever feels great 🔥

[bold steeple]

Yeah i am having a blast in it too

This game kinda came from no where.

Also... its wild how aoc is bringing more info about riot mmo then riot itself huh 😂

[vivid nimbus]

[wanton karma]

Farever feels like open world Dauntless, but the servers let it down, cant do split second dodges if the game freezes for 2 seconds but the server does not. maybe its just a new form of CC 🤔

[wanton karma]

Brb gonna go tell Dawson we got his confession on tape and them have can opener sex with my secretary whilst my intern marries a prince and is shipped off to the farm out if town

Personally ive been playing Supermarket Together on Steam, Its alot like Ashes, you start with nothing and work your way up building and growing as a person, employing NPCs and running from banks, parkouring eveything in sight, whilst you beat down random shoplifters with sticks and run over staff in a fork lift... what was i saying again?

[terse kindle]

this shit can take whole year 2026 and question if court will be done!we will see whats gonna happend!

[pure briar]

If anyone is interested in trying out Star Citizen they are having a free fly (free to play) coming up from May 14th -27th as part of the defensecon event in the game. If you do end up trying it out you can use my code and get an additional 50k aUEC (in game money). My referral code is STAR-RMRM-WNYD Hope to see my pals in the verse 🫡 😁

[kind prism]

Slop Citizen soypog

[azure hull]

😂

[wanton karma]

[edgy sandal]

So basically Dawson is trying to keep the court case from going any further correct? If thats the case then he really must not want the facts to come to light

[solemn moss]

💀

Star citizen is pretty cool until you hit the 3 day mark then you realize its pointless to play and still bug ridden

Definitely some cool things with it atm though

[smoky ocean]

im curious what a "Settlement" would look like

[wanton karma]

"gimmie your money and i wont hurt you"

[jolly raptor]

🗡️

[wanton karma]

"OR i hurt you, and take your money, im being fair here"

[thin fiber]

[empty pumice]

I just love the fact that the toxic people arent bitching anymore. Suddenly got very quite. 🤔

[edgy sandal]

the biggest names you always heard with ashes were teh ones here to make sure it failed and the entire player base jsut gargled those peoples dicks non-stop. they got what they wanted and then they left thats why its peacful here

[empty pumice]

Well, i am glad though that they left. For some reason a lot of people wanted the game to fail, which i dont get. Its like aoc was a personal attack on them.

[burnt matrix]

I really dont think that group of people was a large group at all.

[empty pumice]

And for some reason people dont seem to understand what the word scam means.

[burnt matrix]

Verbal minority. Most people wanted the game to be good.

[edgy sandal]

i had a conversation with someone in Aura(barcode) who said that the reason they were doing it and the reason they wanted ashes to fail is because thats what was fun to them, breaking games beyond repair "was their goal in every game"

thats what brought them entertainment was breaking games

[empty pumice]

Yea well, losers tend to do that. They dont have the capabilities to do something productive so they want to break others people productivity down to make themselves feel better.

Glad to see you are still doing ok steven. Glad to see you around man.

[edgy sandal]

yeah, i dont understand that kind of mentality, but it was rampant in alot of the guilds who were the loudest in discord and the forums. a CRAZY conspiracy theory my buddies and i had is that WoW hired groups of people through intermediary groups to come break and trash up coming MMOs so it can stay relevant and "in charge" and thats what happened in ashes lol.

the gaming underworld LOL

[vague leaf]

Cynicism is attractive because it asks nothing of the cynic. Building requires risk, sacrifice, judgment, and exposure to failure. The critic can be wrong forever without paying a price; the builder has to bleed in public.

[wanton karma]

ashes kickstarter breaking world records was meaningful

[edgy sandal]

i guess the answer to Why is in that statement, its the "safe" route, no risk of failing/punishment emboldens shitty people.

[mellow trout]

I don't know man, if I was cynical rather than an optimist I would still have that 700 dollars lol. At least it taught me a valuable lesson that I had to learn the hard way and that is on me I blame no one.

[strange talon]

Well other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

[edgy sandal]

was that lesson, next time i invest ina project i should try to help it rather than hinder it?

[rain hill]

You're not far off, but it wasn't some cabal or MMO hitmen, it was just salty players from Steven's past. I've talked with a few of them over the years, Steven wasn't the easiest guy to get along with back in the AA days, but felt fucked up to hold that over him, rather than judge Ashes based on what it was/would have been. Especially when 99% of them would be right there playing day 1 lmao. Forever MMO hate runs deep.

[empty pumice]

Yea, I had the same shit happen to me so i know how it feels. Not in the same magnitude as this though. So I'm amazed you are still around. Thats why i decided to keep supporting you !

[edgy sandal]

would be a way cooler/interesting situation if it WAS a cabal lol. but yes MMO hate can run real deep

[empty pumice]

Anyone is allowed to be a cynical, but forcing yourself into the community and try to convince others is the problem. Having a decent conversation and feedback is always interesting but just being annoying, insulting and lying is something else.

[empty pumice]

Are you serious ? What is this? a kindergarten ? Oh no, he bumped me ! Now i need to come 10 years later with vengeance 🙄 If a moment ever came to tell you, you need to grow up, this is that moment.

[rain hill]

Not quite, if that's all it was, I'd still be getting hate for my time spent lol. I won't drudge up the past here, I don't wanna hold Steven's past over his head, not when there is a court case going that will tell me if he's changed or not. But it was more inter guild and outer influence stuff. He played the politics game in a unique way.

[empty pumice]

Well, I hear there is this great game where the world is unsafe and you can kill whoever you want. Sounds like the perfect place to settle some scores. Its called ashes of creation.

[smoky ocean]

i havent played video games since Ashes. touching grass and having sex with women sucks. What do?

[edgy sandal]

you aint gotta lie to kick it

[ocean oriole]

[smoky ocean]

no lie here. im trying to be a productive member of society. But I lust to degen a video game. Theres nothing good to play.

[edgy sandal]

thats true, there really is nothing good to play

[empty pumice]

Well, you can always go kick some rocks to spice things up.

[ocean oriole]

you can play fortnite good new game with bunch of skins

[edgy sandal]

fork knife?

[ocean oriole]

Maple Story Classic World

[empty pumice]

Nono, My little pony is the best

[ocean oriole]

Chorno Odessy, GTA 6,

Brawl Stars Best Mobile Game try it now for free

[empty pumice]

The sims, nintendogs

[smoky ocean]

chrono and gta arent out yet

[ocean oriole]

soon 6-8 month

[ocean oriole]

its for sure come before ashes on 2193 on im will be 398 years old

[smoky ocean]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jump-out-window-6--k01KR4X0FA3CEDKC3BWCQHE7EG3

already been almost 6 months with no game. Now you want me to wait a whole year. I wont last that long cuh

[ocean oriole]

nothing to play just make something good for yourslef or your family and time will pass fast dont worry

[empty pumice]

How about you make your own game ?

[ocean oriole]

When Ashes of Creation shut down, I started learning app development at home for fun, and now I’m close to finishing an app and publishing it in the stores. If Ashes of Creation hadn’t shut down, I’d probably be playing and wasting my time doing nothing productive.

[empty pumice]

I hear AI can make one for you.

[smoky ocean]

i cant code. can you teach me

[ocean oriole]

I literally played MapleStory exactly 20 years ago. I’m 32 today.

Then I moved to World of Warcraft, played it for two years, and ever since then I’ve just been waiting to play a proper MMORPG.

To this day, I haven’t connected with anything, but with Ashes of Creation, even in Alpha 1, I felt like I didn’t want to stop playing.

It’s a shame the story of the game ended like this. It’s really disappointing that I probably won’t get to play a proper MMORPG in my lifetime, because the older I get, the more problems, responsibilities, and less free time I have.

[empty pumice]

Just vibe code it, I hear it is great !

[smoky ocean]

i don't my code to be spaghetti like piratesoftwares game.

[empty pumice]

Yea ... I checked out his code for a bit. That was quite something.

[smoky ocean]

hes "vibe coding"

like fuck im so bored rn i should just knock my girl up so i can have a kid and not have free time anymore.

[empty pumice]

If you ever get some good understanding for c programming, you should check out Travis vroman starting videos. It shows you how to start up a vulkan engine from scratch. I stopped following him around episode 30 though, went of on my own from there. Just a good scafolding if you need one.

[smoky ocean]

ok

[plain tide]

[wanton karma]

happy birthday

[thin fiber]

[wanton karma]

still over 150,000 people in the discord, at £10 per month thats at least 1.5m per month, i reckon we can run ashes on that

[ocean oriole]

🙏

[ocean oriole]

take 100$ per month just give me to play

[wanton karma]

id agree but i cant afford 100 per month, and i expect less than 1% would be able to

[fervent karma]

bold to assume everybody here would be willing. im just here to see how this all plays out at this point

[wanton karma]

even if 1 3rd pay thats still 1 mil a month

[sonic axle]

Charge 100 per month and fund substantially less servers than you'd need to support everyone that can afford $10

[wanton karma]

Talmore used Confusion, its Super Effective! Alzeido is confused

[loud prism]

[spice hawk]

i'd pay monthly for the version of ashes that we had tbh

[thin fiber]

[mental vortex]

Same

[rotund knoll]

[ebon comet]

[plain adder]

[ebon comet]

I haven't been gaming as much either. AoC had me hooked and was exactly what I wanted to be playing. I've been getting a lot better at drumming though lol, getting confident enough to go play at the local traditional Irish sessions in town, it's a lot of fun.

Went from late game Bard in game to early game Bard IRL lol.

[jolly raptor]

hell yeah, i should try being a rogue irl

[ebon comet]

I suggest starting with put-pocketing; sneak things into people's pockets and bags. That way if you get caught you can accuse them of being the thief.

[jolly raptor]

that sounds great but i think santa doesn't like competition 💀

[lapis flower]

Same easily 15 bucks per month no prob

[bright goblet]

Same

[covert remnant]

Who’s loading game up if it comes back on

[silent crater]

Down to the second

Nothing hits, has hit or will ever hit the same like this game did

I feel terrible mourning

Like others have said, if it kept the game alive I too would pay a monthly sub to play the version we had

[covert remnant]

we were about to get 60, and implementation of new class trees too

[vivid nimbus]

[river pebble]

50*

[dense flame]

[willow zephyr]

[plain tide]

[wispy cloak]

❤️

[covert remnant]

yuh ive been playing monsters and memories, forgot it was 50 it seems like an eternity ago we all played ashes

[lucid sorrel]

💯

[thin fiber]

[rotund dirge]

[lean sapphire]

Dude I did the same thing! I’m not very good but it’s fun.

[timber stirrup]

Absolutely. It's still installed on my computer along with the PTR.

[ebon comet]

Nice dude! I just upgraded from my starter Bodhran to something way nicer and it's so much better sounding and the skin feels so much better for the inner hand. Keep at it!

I've been playing along with music after work every day, and practicing basic beats staying in time with a metronome every night, and I can already tell I'm improving a lot faster than when I was inconsistently noodling around.

[tacit sand]

Steven needs to win this case. I'm impatient for more Ashes of Creation! ❤️

[empty pumice]

[empty pumice]

ofcourse ! why would i uninstall it 🤣

[wanton karma]

i still have the alpha 1 build installed

[willow vale]

I added a second hard drive on my computer just for ashes. Still there...

[wanton karma]

me too! 4tb hdd

i think i could genuinely put another 5k hours in the "current" ashes build before id start to get bored

[loud prism]

[hidden zephyr]

good morning @everyone

[wanton karma]

interesting choice to try and ping everyone

[empty pumice]

👆

@hidden zephyr

[ornate moth]

On a branded account too. Now he made a hater for life @hidden zephyr 🫡

[empty pumice]

[elfin canopy]

[hexed ingot]

i think they'll sleep easy at night

[ornate moth]

👍

[jolly raptor]

wow player
lmao

[kind prism]

I don't think he even realises @everyone is disabled for everyone other than Admins/Staff

[hidden zephyr]

Nope I didn't lol

[ionic flax]

THIS

[pearl tinsel]

do we think he will try to keep the game running again if he gets the chance, i feel like its too far gone no?

[sage mountain]

it is/was still in alpha, so everyone should have expected wipes at some point

if we get the chance to re-start playing aoc in a year or two or once it's released it's actually not much different than having another wipe and we get the chance to enjoy it again.. so nothing is 'too far gone'

[willow vale]

Free advertising? Very likely you will remember them. And now so will many of us. 😂

[forest surge]

You remember every idiot who does some dumb shit in front of you? Maybe for a day. Then you forget about it for the most part, but not before you talk shit about it to others and mention what an idiot they were. Now imagine that idiots got a name and a community he's repping for. Bad rep just as bad as no rep

[hexed ingot]

i hope none of you actually think thats actually a company

[forest surge]

Well, what I think is that the do the could be the would do the could be the could do would, but do the could do would the would be do the could do could the would could do be would

[hexed ingot]

Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want.

[forest surge]

I'd emoji react with a fire emote but this server is anti fun

[rotund knoll]

🕺

🔥 ❤️‍🔥

[empty pumice]

[grim stream]

I’m tired of eating food, I want to eat something else

[dense grove]

Anything is food if you're brave enough

[acoustic harness]

+ = 😞

😞 + 💪 +🏃‍➡️ = ( 🧠 + ❤️ )

(🧠 + ❤️ ) = 🙌🔥🏋‍♂️

🙌🔥🏋‍♂️ = 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 = 🇲 🇲 🇴 🇷 🇵 🇬

[willow vale]

Usually harder to forget those who are constantly proving they are idiots.

But thats what mute is for.

😆

[thin fiber]

[void adder]

any status updates

[bright goblet]

Ban?

[willow vale]

Probably someone who made the mistake of uninstalling ashes.

🤣 😂 😅

It will come back. Hopefully

[forest agate]

[plain tide]

[tropic parcel]

[plain adder]

[silent crater]

[glass salmon]

[wanton karma]

[willow zephyr]

[empty pumice]

[foggy locust]

[azure hull]

[wispy cloak]

[severe berry]

[celest trellis]

[honest hamlet]

[maiden timber]

[thin fiber]

[proven quarry]

[bright goblet]

[nocturne fable]

[errant garnet]

NOTHING COMPARES TO ASHES ;-;

[empty pumice]

[mellow trout]

Sorry how was it that I hindered the project LOL?? I spent 700 on it and then patiently waited for it to come out and said nothing while I waited. What I remarked on now is that it taught me the valuable lesson of not investing in products that don't exist, will likely save me more money in the future.

[sage mountain]

That is brilliant.

[strange talon]

[timber stirrup]

I went into the Kickstarter knowing it might not happen and considered the $350 that I gave as a donation to something that I hoped would be successful. Given that I spent about 700 hours in game I'm good with what I gave. I just wish the game would have been successful.

[dense flame]

[edgy sandal]

if you spent $700 then you either backed it on kickstarted ( which would be before i got into it) or you bought multiple voyager packs like I did, in either of those situations, you would of understood what you were paying for, you were paying to 1. Donate to the project that we all believed it which wouldnt be promising you anything or 2. You understood that you were buying things that may come in the future AND at the same time paying to TEST an brand new highly unfinished project... if those 2 things werent apparent to you at the time of yur purchase then you either didnt buy into it early at all( which wouldnt make sense because i dont think anyone would lie about something like that) or you just didnt understand what you were paying for.

i guess maybe i read what you said as you truly believe it was a scam and therefore didnt care about the development of ashes

[floral cloud]

[delicate ivy]

i m not sure that's a good lesson. this could've gone multiple ways. you can't shutdown your interest because of one bad thing that happen to you. you've putted your money in something you felt it was cool, you took a risk. just my thought, not that it matters too much.

[empty pumice]

The moment you put money in this game, YOU made the decision to buy an unfinished project that could fail any second.
If you didn't make that conclusion, you should not be handling ANY finances because you clearly cant think farther then your own god damn nose.

Getting tired of people wanting to live a champagne life with beer money

[jagged pendant]

hey im unblocked 😄

[hardy valley]

I, personally, believe that if you buy literally anything on Kickstarter for any amount of money you should consider it gone forever, and in saying that I think this particular comment is correct. It's not that you won't do it EVER, there might be a project you see on Kick that REALLY draws your attention and you want to donate to it.

But this time, it won't be $700. That's how I understood it, and agree.

It's not like this particular stance is new. A lot of people decided to rethink their spending choices after Ashes collapsed.

[desert sentinel]

buying into an AE package is understandable thats is buying into a game. the Kickstarter is just donating money for a tax write off.

[plush kestrel]

I paid for anthem. Fully released triple AAA. Got far more out of this kickstarter than I did that.

[wanton karma]

so youre telling me if i streamed ashes i could write off the £550 i donated on kickstarter?

(which was 3 months rent at the time)

[wanton karma]

triple AAA? so AAAAAAAAA?

[edgy sandal]

Did you live in a cardboard box lol?

[edgy sandal]

I would agree with that but with the different levels there was the same (and more ) rewards promised than on the voyager packs. Like life time subscription, statues in game, designing a boss, the weekend of DnD at Steven's place on launch, in-game currency, exclusive fashion and titles. But yes I also agree that donating on kick starters should come with an understanding that what youre giving may never come to fruition

[wanton karma]

10+ years ago, rent was that cheap

[edgy sandal]

Okay thats valid. Lol I some times forget how long myself and others have been following this game lol

[wanton karma]

2016 was gooood, only 4 years after the wirld ended

[hexed ingot]

people forget the time before covid

[willow vale]

When creating something, anything. I remind people to search for "The Man in the Arena".

I believe it was an excerpt from Theodore Roosevelt in a 1910 speech where he says

"Its not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles. Or where the doer of deeds could have done better.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena".

For those interested in reading the full quote. Its available online and one of my favorite quotes. Especially when things go wrong.

[desert sentinel]

for me its a given, if you donate to a kickstarter its just that... a donation.

[foggy locust]

[rotund knoll]

Freedom of Speech is a privilege that is taken advantage of too often in America.

I always fact check because we are given the Freedom to do our own research.

Trying to explain to people how uninformed they are makes more enemies than friends 😆

[plain tide]

[thin fiber]

[burnt matrix]

No such thing as exercising freedom of speech too often! People just need to start realizing freedom of consequences is a very real thing too.

[wanton karma]

I forget the source but it has been proven that the smarter you are, the less you think you know, but the dumber you are the more you think you know. This leads to leaders who dont know shit and followers who know far more than those they are following.

The moral of the story is that you can fuck up, it just shows you didn't know better. you can learn and grow. I'd give steven a second chance at running ashes again, no reason not to. Frankly he succeeded far more than anyone before him.
#AshesofAshesOfCreation

I'm bad at words but i'd give Steven more success rate, having the experience of everything that has happened under his belt over anyone else, any day.

[acoustic harness]

#alpha-two-general message

they called me madman

[languid fossil]

So @vague leaf Phase 3 when? assuming we dont have a repeat of such events, id be excited to get to play a Cleric with subclasses. i was thinking Cleric>Rogue

[willow vale]

Personally I am looking forward to cleric / cleric.

What can I say. I'm going for a legendary high priest healer and alchemist for my main.

[slim crystal]

tank/tank

[ebon comet]

Would be bard/bard mana battery and buffbot for me. Would also be keen to try bard/cleric for some offheals

[stray nova]

I think game is dead

[acoustic harness]

nop

If Ashes were dead, not so many people would be paying attention to what’s happening; many people are waiting to see how Steven’s fight to bring “Ashes” back to life as something better turns out

How? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain :

[rotund knoll]

[deft nebula]

[neat ivy]

man i wanna play aoc im getting that cravin nothin is close to what ashes was

[barren valve]

same

is the games till playable?

[empty pumice]

[shy jasper]

Nope

[thin fiber]

[strange talon]

[low flint]

Are you still able to log in if you purchased it before?

[wanton karma]

[plain adder]

[cobalt imp]

[empty pumice]

[jolly raptor]

im sorry what 👁️ 👄 👁️

[wispy wadi]

@vague leaf We got your back brother

[plain tide]

[craggy pelican]

[odd cairn]

[neat ivy]

servers are offline have been since januray

[edgy sandal]

oh dont worry, you arent alone, many of us pointed out the bad actors for years, and got shit on constantly everytime we brought them up. people are to weak to call things like they are, even protected behind a screen. but now no one can deny what was going on, its a small form of vindication even at the price EVERYONE had to pay for it. some of the largest voices and biggest "streamers" everyone backed were some of the ones who were trying to make it fail the most

[thin fiber]

[heady temple]

steamdb shows a peak of 6 players concurrent in the last week. so in theory, yes. the servers are up but in reality youd be lucky to bump into anyone.

[thin fiber]

[azure hull]

Nah just using a launcher can show that

Game has a launcher

[kind prism]

Servers have been down for 2 months. Only reason Steamdb shows anyone is because people are sitting on the main menu (unable to login)

[low flint]

Gotcha. Thanks.

[burnt matrix]

i think they said they want you to play a cleric

[jolly raptor]

i have never been this offended

[thin fiber]

[glad moth]

Will there be DPS meters

[loud prism]

[opal flower]

[wispy cloak]

[thin fiber]

[static shard]

Tbh, even with the court win, the massive overspending on things like doordash, food, and a personal chef for the building, et cetara.. were all a bit much considering there was yet no real revenue in sight to start paying back the loans and such.

So I can see why they wanted to try and liquidate the company and pull the rug on them.

It's gonna be awkward too trying to find new investors for the game after this as well, because likely Steven and Co. are not gonna have a major amount of money once all these court proceedings are done.

Hope they can pull it off, this game was a ton of fun and I loved the summoner concept.

[thin fiber]

[distant dove]

whenn????

[spark cipher]

never... dead game

[wanton karma]

context matters. the only thing that isnt easilly defendable is the chef.

Food, doordash, cards are all just him being a good boss and hosting gaming nights every week. it equated to $200 a week, with a company of 200+ he fed and provided for gaming nights every week at less than 1$ per person over 10+ years.

Have you ever added up the money you spend on leisure like alcohol over 10 years?

[ashen vault]

I have to believe if Steven wins there will be massive damages being rewarded to him, the amount of damage done is astounding. That said if he does win I’ll be there backing the project and if they had to start the subscription fee before release so be it, I have paid more for other games that didn’t hold a candle to the fun I had in AoC.

[static shard]

Well that and the node system is huge too since every server can be different, develop, and be destroyed at leisure by the community. You just don't see that kind of power given to the players.

[wanton karma]

I like to think that in order to prove public perception steven will submit the entire chatlogs of this discord and the trial wont be done until 2367

[plain tide]

[left raft]

[marble cypress]

Ashes of creation 2: risen from the ashes bugaloo

[thin fiber]

[balmy owl]

if that happens...... welp. cant say we did not see that coming

[balmy owl]

I have added up the hobby paints i have used and that is scary now that I compare how much I spend on Game's Workshop paint pods.

[pine vale]

[strange jolt]

[acoustic harness]

"Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost."

[terse kindle]

You need money to continue,second you lost developers(question how many left them and if they want to join again),also court wont end that soon!

[maiden oriole]

[rotund knoll]

[dense flame]

[young nexus]

$200 a week to keep your staff happy is money well spent.

[young nexus]

Shut up and take my money.

[young nexus]

I have spent 4x as much on Wow for the 1/4 of the hours.

[ocean oriole]

why cant login? game shutdown?

[somber cove]

correct

[thin fiber]

[pseudo folio]

I just want to play ashes. I really enjoyed the game and it would be a shame to never be able to see this game fully realized because it would be such a missed opportunity in an mmo landscape that needs a game like ashes desperately

[hexed ingot]

rather confused by the motion to seal when any PII & FI was already redacted

[azure hull]

Did something happen today?

[oblique cypress]

are you the traveller of the past we re suppoe so meet?

[hexed ingot]

last week but considering where the filings came from i doubt it would be wise to share it here

[azure hull]

Ah i see

[hexed ingot]

if you want to know im sure you can find it out there

[azure hull]

Yeah I'll check it

[vital oak]

There's this game "Monsters and Memories"

You should look into it. Beta opens up oct 1st

Wait nevermind. They added a subscription to it

[hybrid oasis]

MnM is a very weak mmo.

[jolly raptor]

nah allegedly polar went there

[thin fiber]

[pseudo folio]

Yah I have watched the progress of it. I may check it out. I did play one of the early alphas once but it was really bad at that time. Hopefully it's improved.

[vital oak]

Whom'st've?

[vital oak]

not enough to pay a monthly subscription.

[pseudo folio]

Yes you may be right. How much is the monthly sub? I mean I could pay for just 1 month to try it out.

[vital oak]

15$ a month. Which, you could just play ESO for that.
Since it gives you access to all DLC, infinite storage, etc. And you get 15$ ingame credit to spend.

[kind prism]

But then I'd have to play ESO

I heckin' love everything scaling with my level, so challenging!

[vital oak]

It was good in the early years of it

But now everyone wants to cater to the "Casual audience".
Meaning you can kill bosses with 3 brain cells.

[jolly raptor]

i tried eso recently it was so boring

[burnt matrix]

The Rogue was lacking i bet

[jolly raptor]

sad times

[vital oak]

ESO logic in a nutshell:
"Stamina nightblades are overperforming in pvp.
So, we nerfed magicka nightblade"

[willow vale]

Eso is ok for me. I wish the player crafting was better.

Feels like stuff from dungeons is where the good stuff lives.

Not very appealing imo.

[last obsidian]

Albion Online is much better experience

[vital oak]

I'd love albion... if they ever expanded PVE

[winter lynx]

so is this game gonna continue to be developed if steven wins all the lawsuits or is it just over?

[brazen anvil]

difficult to see...always in motion is the future

[sterile maple]

seriously if the project goes forward we have to consider a big part of the original team will simply be gone.

people had to find new jobs, and the breakup wasn't an easy one, so some wont be too eager to come back.

I could see part of the original team still come back, but clearly not all.

New team picking up existing assets and code from scratch is gonna take some time. Maybe 6 months to a year to bring a new team up to speed and resume development.

That's once the legal disputes are settled. Realistically, the best case scenario would be an established company / team buying into the project.

[cunning jay]

there is no if. This game is dead

[pseudo folio]

Eso has literally no challenge to the leveling process. It’s entirely braindead. That’s why i dont enjoy it

[vital oak]

even if this game continues development, it will be very slow, possibly years, to start back up

[gloomy prawn]

They are now introducing a opt-in "Challenge Difficulty" for overland content - curious to see what they do with that - good reviews from people who tried it so far

[vital oak]

it's nice. But it doesn't fix the powercreep.

you can still make yourself solo-unkillable in overland

[gloomy prawn]

This is true, then again I most play for BG's

[vital oak]

I refuse to engage with pvp. As a magblade, I constantly got nerfed because of stamblade.

[languid heart]

They were going to put in some sort of Cafeteria, but had delays with permits etc. No reason to fire the Chef.

[wanton karma]

I'm not fully informed, but i'm trying to help :)

[rustic geyser]

"We still talk about you."

[copper bear]

Best pvp game guys ?

[vital oak]

sex 2.0

[copper bear]

Dmn kids 🙁

[vital oak]

my favorite? was AVP 2

it has a great tri-story design
Was pvpvp

[wild ridge]

AVP 2 was one of the best gaming experience I have ever had

[vital oak]

yeah. it was so fucking atmospheric for a 2003 game

[stable dune]

I've played literally every MMORPG, nothing's fun. I want ashes back. wow is crap now, not interested in playing a 15th classic release. What mmorpgs is everyone playing?

[vital oak]

you still play mmorpgs?

[river pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[stable dune]

PC been off for atleast a month, idk no MMORPG videos of recent games look fun

[thin fiber]

[polar bone]

I'm playing the real life. Non linear plot, interesting quests, different encounters. And in the end - game over

[rose basin]

Conan Exiles released an 'Enhanced' update. Updated to UE5 and some other things. All Free. The DLC maps are now all continuous instead of separate servers so you can sail/travel between them.

[thin fiber]

i feel like i made a bad decision sometime in 2015 and i'm living the Bad Ending now.

[near cedar]

Entropia Universe

[vocal meteor]

I agree, if Ashes doesn't come back- I'll be done with MMORPG's

[near cedar]

It is a good time to try it out they introduced baitfishing which is a way to play for free

[thin fiber]

[plain tide]

[forest agate]

If the game literally comes back from the ashes, it would be the craziest comeback ever. I loved where the game was going and would still be a choice I would make to throw some money at it to support it to finish.

[proud steeple]

"We are not defeated. We are not lost. We are the flame that rises from these embers. Let the Ancients remember this day, for even in death the divine are eternal." ~Gronin Runelord, Stone General of the Dunzenkell Defense Forces

[bold steeple]

what is nesfaq saying now? why steven brother is involved? is it within court whatever he is saying too? all those document he showed in his youtube video? or just hearsay from someone from the board or 3rd , 4th, 5th and 6th party involvement?

playing too much farever to know whats going on lol

aaah too much... going back to farever.. soon enough when we get results there will be a tldr video

[strange talon]

[mellow trout]

You are reinforcing what I said myself. I backed it on kickstarter. I hadn't backed anything before ashes, and I learned that I should not have done that. That is the lesson. Its not because i cant live without that money, its because i like spending money on things i actually benefit from, i didnt realize how unlikely it was for the game to come out cause i got caught in the hype. I am not going to gamble on games again, others can feel free to do so. That being said, if I had known Steven was into multilevel marketing before I purchased kickstarter, I would have held off based on multiple principles, but I was ignorant. But apart from early involvement in the forums, and limited early play testing, this is the most interaction I have had with the community so far, I was never sabatoging the game as I was accused of, I was waiting as I didn't want to spoil the game too much before full release. I bought the 700 not to play test but for the lifetime sub.

[ebon comet]

I'm just glad I got to roll around on my Guarden for a while. That thing was fucking dope.

[maiden oriole]

[empty pumice]

[stable temple]

[thin fiber]

[oak moat]

When is game coming back now Steven has won?

[hearty patrol]

[errant garnet]

he won?

[hardy valley]

No.

[empty pumice]

steven hasnt won yet

[sage mountain]

he won our hearts and our pity

[fading tree]

and time/money XD. Either way we are all still here waiting, hoping... qq

[ebon swallow]

ok i just wanted to delete this discord but guess this isnt over yet, lets lurk for another year and see where it goes

[strange talon]

[acoustic harness]

[oblique cypress]

[vital oak]

Coincidence that this game and piratesoftware both crashed and burned at the same time? I think not

[loud prism]

[thin fiber]

[mystic quiver]

any news?

[plain adder]

[mighty plinth]

[rotund knoll]

[edgy sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-boom-exactly-ecstatic-andy-samberg-detective-jake-peralta-gif-13269823

[empty pumice]

[dense flame]

[native pine]

[hidden zephyr]

Dead game or revival in 3 years?

[rustic geyser]

Ashes of Creation: A Realm Reborn

[crystal crane]

Am I the only one thats been struggling to find some enjoyment like I had on AOC? Its been months of fluttering into different genres, or hell even the same genres, and cant seem to be stoked at the game I'm playing. I'm hoping for some action soon!

[burnt matrix]

Deadlocks been a blast 🤷‍♂️

[muted glade]

meh

[muted glade]

samee. i need ashes back

[floral cloud]

I think we are all grieving ashes

At least I still am I haven’t touched my pc since Ashe’s shut down

[wanton karma]

pretty sure the same goes for 90% of the people here

[severe berry]

:flamingphoenix:

[wanton karma]

[empty pumice]

[snow cedar]

same here .... hopefully it will come back .... someday 🤞

[rotund knoll]

I've been having withdrawals since Ashes realms have gotten lost.
When they are found I will surely be an Ashes addict again

[foggy locust]

[errant garnet]

This is me 100%

[severe berry]

[languid heart]

@vague leaf We're cheering for you and the team!

[thin fiber]

[languid heart]

For me, testing Ashes was more fun than
playing any of the released games I can choose from.

[misty timber]

[distant dove]

whennnn????

[thin fiber]

[cosmic trail]

I’ve enjoyed star citizen, tho it’s not the same style of game, it still has the ability to do a painfully long trip carrying cargo from one spot to another for a little amount of money and all the same people crying the same things any time an exploit is discovered lol

[crystal crane]

I’ve been playing the same the last week, and I’ve been enjoying that! Looking forward to the wipe!

[cosmic trail]

Gonna have fun running another 45 hours of the same mission for grinding wooo

And a free fly which will potentially make the servers act up XD

[empty pumice]

welcome to the misery of mmo players. We all have this feeling for more then 20 years now.

[native sleet]

any news regarding ashes coming out again?

[rotund knoll]

[exotic flower]

Not a day goes by without a memory of:

• Gambling grass simulator. I could cut it for hours under all the buffs and elxs just to loot 3-5 leg/purple pieces. Pure bliss with a good podcast on in the background.
• Market monitoring - started my day checking mail and appreciating all the money from sales, after that - a lap around the map, searching for good deals. I felt so lucky if I could find a good price or a needed ingredient 🥹
• Risky crate runs. I swear to god, no in-game activity in my life ever gave me this edge when you have to dodge 100 feral lizards on your path + 3 god forsaken rogue gnomes waiting in the bushes near the town. The relief I felt when I sold the create! It really inspired to study all the routes and check the situation in different zones in chat.
• Exchanging recipes and tips with guild members. Everyone was eager to pitch in and help others.
• Farming resources for the city rep. The mountain near Joeva went fcng BALD each time citizens needed hemlock or larch for them 💀 I became Noble right before the end...
• Searching for tier-3 tree in the North - I spent literally 8-10 hours checking every mountain pass and slope to find them and only managed to spot it 2 times, but I felt like a Siberian geologist discovering one of a kind mine after a months of traversing the wilderness. Accidentally it became my last big adventure before the servers shut down.

It was my first MMO and I miss it so much 🥹

[left raft]

not my first MMO but one of the best.. i hope it comes back

[plain adder]

[tall bridge]

[chilly stream]

THERES HOPE GUYS!!

https://klipy.com/gifs/copium-cat--k01KRJA2SRZVWAKTAFPZ171NNW5

[ebon comet]

I miss having a game my wife and I both really loved to play together. Valheim is close for us, but Ashes hit way harder.

I miss randomly healing people when they were dying next to me, or newbs on the road getting eaten by birds and mountain lions.

And giving newbs who were nice and in their first character my bank trash and a few gold and some bags and how wonderful that felt to be able to do for someone just starting.

And healing mounts before mounts had passive regen.

And solo grinding as a bard after level 20. I rolled with Greatsword/Longbow and the finishers fucking destroyed mobs. Never got a proper spellbook but was looking forward to that for AoE. The bard kit is soooo goooood.

Also loved the passive income of having my wife's character constantly fishing. She got like 7 levels from fish XP and turn ins and made us so much gold.

And making my own shit as a tailor, and hooking nice people up with bags and shirts.

And farming mats. Podcasts and herbalism/hunting runs were glorious.

And logging in right after a reset to gobble up the gathering node respawns

Genuinely so much of it felt great, could go on forever.

[upper hare]

Ayo @vague leaf i havent post anything here since the game closed but just hoped in to say thanks for ruining people's lives (your devs) without payroll and for hitting the killing blow to the mmo genre.

[plain tide]

[clever jolt]

[novel tapir]

[clever jolt]

keep it going until they bring it back

[elfin canopy]

[oak bobcat]

@ebon comet this was a perfect way to put it, being able to help others and give away gear and teach new people things. Hubby and I sorely miss those opportunities in games, will still be checking in to see what happens here

[maiden oriole]

[hardy valley]

My boyfriend and I picked up the game and we ended up running into this player who didn't even know how crate mules worked. They were getting like, 25 silver per run and thinking that was hot shit, haha 🤣

We ended up doing our first ever gold run on mules and donated 1 gold each to the dude. He ended up maxing his level before us and joining a popular guild before the shutdown!

I usually either play these games solo, or with him, and so I rarely have interactions like this, and it was really nice to make someone's day. I remember them saying that now they'd be able to do so much cool stuff they'd been planning to start, but just couldn't get the money in order.

[dense flame]

[oak bobcat]

Ah yes watching the babies grow ha ha, I definitely loved that. Randoms thinking it was a scam of some kind too like they never had kindness in a game ha ha

[hardy valley]

Man... Trying to get that first gold coin is so hard when you have no idea what you're doing. I miss this game so much

I miss autistically hitting rocks for 16 hours a day and getting those dopamine highs off the rarity procs

[exotic flower]

Oh yeah, I did the same! Also helped several poor souls who tried to carry crates to difficult locations - showed them the safe route, chatted and gave some tips on the way) It was so wholesome!

[thin fiber]

[rain girder]

[vale wave]

My dude! Just checked in for the first time in a long time. Happy to read the news. @vague leaf - Iron will my friend. Happy for you... happy for the hope of justice for the team especially.

[loud prism]

[cobalt imp]

[ebon comet]

Haha I legitimately never did a crate run until I was level 20, and only then because my town needed supplies to upgrade a building....and I only ever did one haha. I made my money from fishing and gathering and selling my wares. I almost never left the Vhalgadim node unless people needed help.

But I agree that helping new people was one of the best feelings in the game and is sorely missed.

[ebon comet]

Even though I had been playing longer, I took the slow road to level so I would help these people when they were around level 10 and then I'd watch them on my friends list blast past me in levels haha. It was a great feeling to have helped inspire them in the early stages, and then I appeared to have been building an army of loyal friends who were better geared and further along than me that I could eventually ask for help. I think the community building aspect is one of the best parts of this experience.

[oak bobcat]

That's it community in a game is important. Makes people stay

[burnt matrix]

The play was to do cross map runs while the crate killers were still leveling (since they never pvp without level 20+) and you get enough with a large group for a boat and you make 100s of gold in 1-2 days

Then you got like 2 boats in the group and you go out to deep sea fish for $$$ since all the pvp players are busy bullying the crate runners once they hit 25 (cause theyre cowards) and you get uncontested fishing for like 3 days and make 100s more gold with a large group

[ebon comet]

Heh yeah I heard that was the meta, but I never really chased metas or wanted to run crates or build a boat. I'm a slow progress enjoyer, and I was a guildless duo with my wife who has less time to play games but also doesn't want me to out level her too much. I'd have her character fish in town while I grinded commissions and farming. Or I'd grind one star mobs by a river while she fished and feed her half my XP. Slower, but fit my hermit-like play style more and we made about 20-50ish gold per day depending on luck. Plenty for me to gear us both up and keep my crafting levels increasing, especially since I spent more days at each level than the crab grinders.

I always wanted to go on a boat adventure eventually, just to see what it was like. But such is the life of a hermit haha. Hard to leave my mountain home.

[strange talon]

[thin fiber]

[acoustic harness]

[pine forge]

as someone who reached grandmaster herbalism in both a2 and the steam version, I can very much relate to the first 2 of your points...and this is my 1st MMO as well

[exotic flower]

I actually earned a start money for my profs and gained A LOT on top of it on crates) I was one of the first on our server who discovered long paths to the North which were like 80% safe and ran them myself + became a guide for my guild) You could get the best money storing 12-15 crates in the harbor nearby the town that was about to evolve and than swiftly sell all of them at once before others could finish their trips and drop the price. Also, I only did blue+ crates since I had low risk routes)

Several times I spotted players who were stranded in the middle of the journey - they made it through the 99% safe part but couldn't find the road between the mobs further. And they also didn't want to turn around since they already spent like 20-30 mins to reach this spot. I showed them the way and had really cute conversations, really miss that part 🥹 They were so scared in the beginning that I might take their crates and so relieved after we reached the town)

Also, sometimes people got disconnected right in the middle of the road due to server issues, leaving their crates on the ground and I guarded them till their return. They were so happy since they didn't believe their crates will still be there on the busiest road of the continent 😂

[exotic flower]

I only played steam version so I was robbed of this great experience so early 🥲 My only concern was that with lvling the prof I didn't spot any difference in drop rates in terms of rarity, and there also were only tier 3 plants in the game at the moment. So Master and Grandmaster stages didn't add anything to the gameplay, I just lvled them in the process of cutting)

[pine forge]

yea above jm stuff wasnt implemented yet
Drop rates increased with quality from gear, though its not a coninuum, u needed tto reach certain threshholds

[exotic flower]

Yeah, but I have a feeling that quality from gear only made you get more green and slightly more blue, but rates for getting yellow+ somehow became worse later in the game. Different story with wood! I got so much more rare pieces with stage 1 prof and a newbie axe 🤣

Maybe winter affected the drop rates for grass (which make sence) but I'm not sure if weather really influenced anything in that stage of game development.

[pine forge]

i think the threshholds were different between the artisanships, I think I had above 1k quality without pot in the end, and there was definetly a huge upgrade to leg drops. In the beginning I got like 1 in 2-3 days, with my gear I got like 1.5 per day on average

[exotic flower]

I had +- the same and top-notch gear but get maybe 1 leg in a couple of days, and 2-5 purple per day, but maybe I was just unlucky(

[thin fiber]