alpha-two-general

[pliant prism]

Once Human

[timber pulsar]

🤣

[shy warren]

Karen Boreyko my beloved (queen of Verra) will save us

[floral yew]

is gw2 really the only decent "populated" pvp mmorpg atm? someone dm me good refugee options pls 😭

[gentle cypress]

Unfortunately there is really nothing quite like it that was anywhere near the size ashes was. I am going back to darn ESO myself but it scratches a different itch. Blows.

[spice torrent]

Also went back to ESO. Love cyrodiil. Enjoying it after a long break tbh, though it's far from perfect / has its won issues.

[leaden depot]

Right, people making excuses for a team that couldn't figure out how to keep a horse ability on your hotbar without disappearing when relogging. I don't understand the excuse generation

[spark crown]

GG o7 was fun while it lasted. I actually had hope for the mmo genre until now. Sadge

[quick yew]

If youre a pussy, GW2 or ESO are good options. If youre not, Albion Online is a good option

[vestal isle]

Are there any Devs in the office at the moment even? Or did they legit fire everyone?

[oblique gorge]

So is this asshole company going to tell us when servers go down? Still NO COMMUNICATION lol what a bunch of SCHMUCKS. 2 months of alpha and y'all don't do shit and than get laid off lol wtf.

[stiff seal]

Isometric camera sucks for MMO

[winged token]

No one is left to communicate or turn off the servers. They will shutoff when the bill is overdue 🤣

[odd geyser]

Well back to running crates in space good ol star citizen hahaha 😆 😂 sad day for the fantasy mmo genre

[honest heron]

The true Ashes are the money we spent along the way

[tawny remnant]

it's 6:30 m on the west coast, if anyone is left they arent evn at work yet, genius

[fluid flicker]

The beetle never made it to my inventory…

[mighty charm]

How to get a refund if you have more than 2 hours?

[amber heron]

Good somebody did not forget about the important stuff...

[wintry snow]

Well someone got to be assigned to turn off the servers...

[polar talon]

Time to speed level a new mage, who is with me?

[fallow stirrup]

I wouldnt be surprised if Karen is a 'friend' of Stevens and and she was taking over as the walls were closing in on him. Now he has a scapegoat and keeps his hands clean.

[wanton karma]

I don't want ashes to go awa :(

[austere bay]

You want closure, go watch Kira's video... Without Steven there is no Ashes.

[plucky harness]

People just can't seem to accept that the steam release was a grift to pay back Kickstarters who are legally obligated to get their money back as it is in writing.

Stop huffing the copium.

[unborn rose]

Steven resigned on a Saturday and their office is still not open, it's only 06:37 on Monday

[nova jasper]

WTS my asses account with lots of NFT cosmetics, 50 cents and a big mac, best offer so far!

[crystal cape]

Is there any confirmed news other than the Discord post? Or is it just silence for now?

[river ember]

Steven literally setback mmorpgs 30 years

[worn steeple]

Riot MMO PLEASE BE GOOD

[smoky sleet]

For now it is the discord post and posts on social media from many of the dev/marketing team confirming they have lost their jobs.

[desert fog]

The one that was already cancelled?

[jovial tiger]

Lol they made a fighter game instead shits so ass

[civic isle]

➤ Ashes of Creation remains playable in Early Access at this time; the servers have not been shut down.
➤ There have been staff changes within the development team, including confirmed layoffs and resignations of key leadership roles such as the Creative Director and Community Manager.
➤ The studio itself has described these changes as “targeted team adjustments” and has stated that development has not officially ended.
➤ In contrast, external reports and media outlets are describing large-scale layoffs and speculate about a possible shutdown or abrupt end to development — however, this has not been officially confirmed.
➤ Future uncertain: At present, there is no confirmed information indicating that a new team or another developer has taken over the IP.

In short:
The game is currently still playable. Whether development will continue or be discontinued remains unclear. There are conflicting reports and no binding roadmap or official long-term confirmation at this time.

[past shell]

What are all your thoughts on Archeage classic servers?

[slender thistle]

Silence because its an empty company. New owner will probably bring in a bunch of people today...to start hauling out the physical assets to sell, and turn the lights off when they're done

[fathom moon]

I only spent $800

[frail prism]

fuck this

[glossy ginkgo]

you still have access to the game, whats wrong? go play lol

[lime gate]

sod working on this game,,, all interest from potential parties wishing to spend money should aim at New World

[ionic venture]

Lemon brain

[onyx ruin]

wait, "plastic lemons...." steven sold fruit juice... shill? lmao

[hollow moat]

so... see you in the next nex-gen mmo xD

[minor scroll]

You would have a better chance convincing people that Santa Claus and Easter Bunny are Real

[meager blade]

I downloaded yesterday as a returning player from several years ago, pleasantly surprised you can lvl quite quick still a very good game to be fair

[glad kestrel]

If you paid all that money for previous phase testing you deserve to get nothing

[unkempt dust]

I’m still trying to figure out why the fuck people are in voice channel in this server

[gilded matrix]

its called unemployed

[versed eagle]

lol in my server there isnt any activity. LFG chat is empty and so is TRADE chat. I wish there were some people online so I could continue playing. tried to run crates, but it pays so little I cant be asked.

[merry hemlock]

Because they have something to talk about and don't want to have to wait 30 minutes to participate in a conversation again. I'm still trying to figure out why the fuck you're still here since the game is dead.

[meager jackal]

I was still running crates last night from Brine to Aith. Got almost 16g for an epic

[trim drum]

Well I guess its back to BDO

[scenic tartan]

time to go back to playing hoop and stick

[unborn oar]

Are people still playing? Or is it mainly bots?

[thick shoal]

Got to max lvl in 30hrs but then they had celestial levels which I wasn't sure how to do yet.

[whole blaze]

Dont play till an official announcement.

[thick bay]

still people playing since we do not know what is going to happen

[snow stream]

still no statement...ffs come on guys

[silent adder]

Who will make a statement? They are all gone xD

[carmine gust]

Steven just wanted to praise him until the very end until it all fell thru. It fell thru and he's still trying to play the "well you don't know all the details." You screwed your devs. You screwed your fanbase. Those are the only details I care about.

[meager hedge]

I hope someone left the board the twitter password

[somber quail]

Black Desert Online is different than it was 10 years ago. It's a lot better. I was surprised when I returned in November. Albion Online is also better than it was 10 years ago. Pax Dei is good if you're an adult, but it's going to take patience. It will be phenomenal in 10 years. Project Gorgon is fun for a weekend.

[humble ember]

what game is everyone going to now i want to join the gaggle.

[stoic plinth]

GW2 😂

[young remnant]

Boo!! The groundhog predicted 6 more weeks of winter. BOOO!!

[fair kettle]

Riot MMO before 2030

[slow fable]

On the AoC Kickstarter page it says if Ashes fails to launch all backers will be refunded.

Launching under Early Access does not qualify as launched game.

[elfin owl]

@meager hedge I hope that same thing

[gray radish]

It did launch on steam

[feral sable]

Where is our refund Day 3

[granite snow]

if BDO is different than it was 10 years ago, there is a good chance, it's changed for the worse. Coming from someone who mained that game for the first 6-8 years of its release.

[sage peak]

You got the clause that denies early access or are you just assuming, because it won’t hold up

[balmy folio]

It doesn’t state that. Nor does it state what launch is required. Just a launch. Rug pull

[terse kindle]

y thats co founder said

[bleak siren]

Best time to Freshstart AA Server... 😄

[green prawn]

Waits for the courts to properly define launch...

[slender tree]

they just made an event x2 everything and upgraded loot rates + dungeon limits for the new player so right timing to play

[warped meteor]

YAYA holdings owns the customer data now. Customer lists was specifically listed in the lien document. Steven didn't pay his debts, debts got called in, lost the company to the person he was indebt to after taking out like 10 liens you can see online. But keep sucking that copium dck while they sell our info to recoup costs.

[remote slate]

If anyone is looking for a new game to play. Our guild plays Ultima Online on the Outlands server. It's a free game if anyone is interested in checking it out DM me.

[junior atlas]

So is the game saved or not?

I need to fill my AoC copium for the day 😎

[timid zodiac]

[muted vault]

Guys in the end. Ashes of Creation truly was, just an alpha

[queen basin]

alright boys time to spend all you money on SC now

[native sleet]

Guys its an alpha what do you expect?!

[tidal orchid]

that the game is funded to completion, since that was the promise 😉

[rotund dirge]

Already downloading it right now. Got scammed by Chronicles of Elyria and now by AoC... 3rd times the charm right?

[unborn socket]

I think it was already on this campaign and that is why it failed

[ruby oak]

Where is Glop when you need him

[nocturne solar]

I love SC for what it does technically (and ofc the grand idea of it) but it is even less of a game than AOC was lmao

SC = Star Citizen

[gloomy geyser]

back to playing im in love with your dead grandmother 3 online battle royale ig

[gusty wasp]

SC ?

[keen drum]

back to Lineage 2 bois o7

[carmine mauve]

Well going to be playing Apogea now 😄

[surreal flax]

i understand it got nothing to do with the RMT shit right ?

[olive tusk]

just waiting for some unemployd dev leak the source code

[mighty void]

so what was the ethical issue? adding wow token?

[cedar pecan]

true

[marble cedar]

if its to be beleived, layoffs and outsourcing.

[slow seal]

Steven is the definiton of trash. A stain on the mmo and gaming community. If youre defending him, read the legal docs. read his history.

[supple flame]

Naw ethical issue was that he didn't want to fire more staff and move the company overseas to reduce costs

[onyx summit]

that would be great

[dusk compass]

back to throne and liberty for me 🙃

[bright lark]

lol another game going to be shutdown

[light thunder]

So... anyone want to join me for some FFXIV this week?

[latent tree]

back to star citizen just like get scammed no reason

[odd wing]

might just not be for you mate, take a break and come back in a year, let them cook, you obviously have not tested an alpha game before, this is just part of the process

[sullen pelican]

You know what is most frustrating about this. I begged my buddy to come play with me. He played for a few days and was so frustrated with the server issues at launch he asked for a refund. I believed in this game so much I bought him a copy on steam. I am now processing that refund myself.

[open island]

Star craft

[low hamlet]

this still doesnt hit as hard as new world did tho

[native reef]

hey yall if u crowd fund me 20m ill clean up my living room

[patent jolt]

Brother what? The game is over with unless another company buys the IP

[mild fossil]

I could of been playing deadlock or WoW instead I did this dogshit hunting system, GG Steven you got me

[ripe bolt]

Voice chat PPL not only milenials play MMOs, I am 25

[junior charm]

this game is sick

[river raptor]

what fucking part of the process was the rugpull?

[spark crown]

He doesnt know. Sadge

[final void]

vindication feels so nice

[wise yacht]

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[tiny thistle]

maybe because he is jobless? 🤣

[vital palm]

fired as well

[magic wolf]

Probably legally cannot or doesn't know

[sudden flower]

I think this guy might be out of the loop... there is no one left to cook, the chefs have been removed from the kitchen

[native orchid]

why would he, assuming they laid them all off i doubt hed wanna be working 😆

[swift pewter]

Yeah, but what an amazing game. It had so much potential, now no one will touch it and if they do they will have to change the name. It will most likely be a pay to win game. Those of us, per kick starters are out as well because it did launch on steam. Steven knew when her launched it on steam that he wouldn't have to pay back the kick starters. The way it went down was just crazy, I think we can all agree the bots and exploits were in his favor as well it was away for people to concentrate on something else and not see what was really going on.

[lilac elm]

What happened, did steam killed another game ?!!!!

[tired crown]

LFG OAKENBALE LV10 MAGE

[wild prairie]

weak devs

[fervent hedge]

this is what i get for trying to play an mmo thats not eve online and wow, im just gonna stick to the goats from now on

[lone plaza]

Why are the servers still up?

[pallid talon]

why is the sky blue

[wanton fox]

Soo sad about this game 🙁

[limpid hedge]

I can't believe people still believe any of the devs still work for Intrepid. It's literally out in public that Karen issues a Warn Act firing everyone in Intrepid today.

Also, I found it very convenient that Steven and his heads resigned 3 days after Steam paid them.

[white plover]

let's be honest here for a moment, even with the biggest potential, this game was only ever gonna be a worse archeage, let's be real.

[unkempt latch]

Y_Y I JUST WANTED TO PLAY A FUN BALANCED NECROMANCER IN A MMO (NOT ESO)

[cunning quiver]

WTS Throggs neck Bridge serious offers only

[smoky shuttle]

Maybe because Steve was the problem, and the board is going to save the game by bringing focus and completion of key features over adding more ideas and ambition? And so the board isn’t actually killing the game? WHO KNOWS

[jaunty stirrup]

play ESO

[spice cedar]

How's the discord "sit in" going? Are we getting the game back?

[rich cove]

if the whole teams already gone, i sincerely doubt any amount of discord activity or otherwise will reverse things

[rain raptor]

I hope they forget about this Discord and we get to keep it.

[amber heron]

You can even play balanced Necromancer as a completely different class, awesome. Oh no...

[timber pulsar]

This might be the play tbh. I just hate how ESOs combat is right now with auto attack weaving etc

[past shell]

Will there be a fresh start Archeage private server? If not, is classic viable?

[chilly cobalt]

true

[oblique gorge]

They made millions from the steam launch lol and you still got intrepid shills in here. YALL A BUNCH OF BITCHES DEFENDING THIS COMPANY FOR SO LONG. Now they put on fucking 30 minute timers lol FUCK THIS GAY ASS COMPANY BUNCH OF SCAMMING BITCHES. And they never released the skins everyone bought but they did release a cash ship with skins lol. Y'all idiots GOT GOT. BAZINGA!

[bronze walrus]

honestly the only reason the discords still here is because its pointless and karen dont care about it atm, once whatever she decides to do with the ip either sell it or outsource then the discord will get updates etc

[rancid adder]

Ashes of cock 🍆

[elfin moat]

So, I don't think I'm getting that beetle mount for my time in the queue. RIP.

[prisma bramble]

Alpha 2 finaly out! 3month after Aoc finaly close!

[autumn shadow]

servers need to hurry up and close down

[maiden timber]

🙁

[obtuse beacon]

To see what happened here - Go on Youtube and search for "If Video Game Companies Made Jigsaw Puzzles" - Ryan George nailed this 5 years ago.

[shy warren]

Let us send voice recordings I’m tryna fart in the mic

[stoic pecan]

Why is there still slow mode is there still mods? Lol

[lofty jasper]

Lets play dune awakening, tomorrow is huge update.
Or is there anything else with good picture and not 10+ years old?

[whole blaze]

Its so early now at west coast. We need to wait a little bit more to get an official statement.

[polar eagle]

My brother first played New World days before they announced it's closer. He just started playing AoC less than a week ago. He might be cursed or something.

[red elbow]

tell your brother to play WoW, the ultimate curse test

[signal arch]

lmao now its a anarchy server no mods left XD yikes i should leave before stuff gets REAL BAD

[agile nacelle]

So your brother was the culprit, lets hunt him down! >:v

[molten lintel]

Do we know who the current server owner is for this discord

[zealous rain]

Bcz nobody says "We are closing servers and game" the pussy ones who didnt like the game started talking about "Steven left game will close, it was scam, etc."

[silent sparrow]

its not only steven who left

[spare flint]

suppose to be closing end of business today

[spare gyro]

F Ashes and Steam for putitng this cash grab on there

[woven frost]

After reading the Steam reviews over the last two days that has plunged AoC back into mostly negative territory, as well as tons of discord posts I feel I can safely paraphrase William Congreve:
"Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned"

[smoky geyser]

@vague leaf Sell me a copie of the game, I'll pay monthly to run it on private server.

[cerulean ravine]

give steam a few days at most, I believe in their customer service team, bad or dead games get more refunds in the past

[hard nimbus]

Servers still up?

[thorn hazel]

the board prob has no clue how to take them down

[white parrot]

"just find the plug!!!" -shadow board probably

[marsh quarry]

Alright which employee is pissed off enough to leak the game files

[turbid hinge]

xd

[bright jewel]

since screenshots aren't allowed in here i encourage everyone to check out nyce gamings' twitter. literal screenshots / proof that Steven was in Polar's DMs laughing with them and clowning on everyone in here about RMT, exploits, and favoritism while talking shit about creators that had the audacity to call them out on it

[random needle]

Yes they are

[atomic kettle]

PVP games just arent worth developing for such a small toxic niche group. If AoC was a PVE based game, it would have done alot better.

[regal vortex]

would have made zero difference

[remote tide]

Omg the cope and cringe calm down

[celest yew]

for how long?

[fierce terrace]

Has anyone addressed the shutting down this game from Intrepid? It is all over the internet that the game is shutting down.

[median wigeon]

same debat as arc raider people beg for pve mode, but pve is boring af, arc raider has a lot of player base and still a hit

[rocky stag]

Gonna use my 6 hour message to say fuck you and your pve nonsens.e

[reef crater]

congrats, you win the first prize of the usseless dumbest com of this last 24h ^^

[hallow beacon]

So is the game cabcellation fake news?

[stiff seal]

Lol, AoC steam release was mostly PvE

[shrewd ravine]

anyone got any server files to share? lf aoc private servers...

[autumn raft]

Sadly, it's very real

[acoustic bridge]

@half pilot why you still here? you are no find a new job?

[lusty osprey]

She has to garner as much sympathy as possible

[old jacinth]

We know nothing pls stop spreading fake news. atm no statement

[knotty axle]

-6

[cedar pecan]

Go play Sims, there s no pvp there. You can also do some girl to girl PvP with your girlfriend, like straight-up hair pulling

[plucky harness]

Margaret either knew or needs to sue.

[lament citrus]

Think this is the distraction to cover up the fraud and theft?

[fair blade]

Regardless of scam/broken promises i gotta say this community is toxic as hell, i am glad im not the one trying to create a product for you guys

[chilly tangle]

repeat with me... I am the only one to blame. I should stop buying games on alpha. I must learn not to settle for an alpha. and for steven... jail or piupiu

[rustic lava]

The pvp players are gonna sit and call you an idiot for wanting PvE without uninitiated pvp actions. But fail to realize if pvp system was set up to just always be able to pvp without consequences the game would fail as MOST mmorpg players are PvE with a mindset to pvp when they're geared. When you take that away from small guilds and even solo players the population will die quickly, including their "farmers" from their guild cause some toxic ass from rivals will just kill em over and over.

[vague heron]

@vague leaf can I have RMT money 🙌

[brazen lance]

I already uninstalled this game

[dusky hearth]

yes fake

[toxic stirrup]

Watched some videos, is this company dead? Lay offs and such?

[kindred snow]

I be real after all thats comming out and is collected now even without official statement etc steven did many wrongs to us and seemingly other companys and the devs even and should be held accountable. But hell i want this darn game to happen there must be some solution to all this shitshow... i would hate it to end like this or be just another p2w game in the end if it gets further developed by some 0815 devs for fast cash.
I know its not realistic atm but hell this end of all cant be it im still in a bit of a disbelieve this sunday happened to be fair.. pls wake me up and tell me im just still dreaming.

[fringe lark]

If you haven't watched Kira's latest video, then you probably should. If Kira (!) is saying to pump the brakes calling this a scam, then you know there is more to this story that we just don't know.

[cloud dune]

[spark depot]

there will be an official announcement - just wait for that

[tawdry comet]

People generally behave better when there’s transparency and communication and not deception and fraud.

Focusing on skins, lying about finances and silent partners, creditors and debts all amount to fraud, all while deflecting to “morals” all cheap talk.

[eager agate]

We tried to warn the steam players but we were silenced fam. Rip.

[half raft]

Guessing the game is still uo

[tender urchin]

PERMA DESTROY KILLED THIS GAME HAHA GET FUCKED

[warped meteor]

Kira showed the legal documents in his video then? Cause I didn't see them.

[spark cipher]

Dude is the game really canceled?

[lethal totem]

I guess the manner of your response, proves his point.

[frank turtle]

i just got reply from steam on my refund request. they say ''we are investigating this issue further. As soon as we have more information, we will update your ticket.''

[worldly pier]

"We are investigating this issue further. As soon as we have more information, we will update your ticket.

Steam Support
John A."

If you ask a refund the normal way and played more than 2 hours it will be auto declined as it did for me, go to steam support page, select Ashes of Creation and select "I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS PRODUCT" and than explain the current bs, the more people that do it the faster or more likely they understand this product is bs and refund. Usually they just accept or decline so they are aware because others are requesting the same.

[simple summit]

When will the servers be shut down?

[hoary field]

The servers were only up 2 days a week in phase one, and 5 days in p2

[somber marlin]

I did this, steam still refused, had to get my refund through my payment provider, in this case paypal. That finally worked.

[soft furnace]

Im going to launch a game, charge the community a ton of money, pocket it all, then resign and blame 'board members' for the cancelation. Perfect scam

[unreal thorn]

When they don't pay their bill.

[knotty cave]

Isn't steven the only board member?

[sinful barn]

make sure you "launch" the game on steam to be able to say you technically released the game as promised

[charred spoke]

There isn't any information, you're not gonna know until later

[weak plank]

Its a private company. They don't have to list any board members, if they exist. There is no way to know.

[full haven]

He was until he started secretly dumping shares and lying about it.

[surreal flax]

he do not litteraly dump share, he contracted debt , the 14 january , u can see it on official website

[coarse hull]

Prepare to get your steam account nuked

[frank onyx]

I had a fun time for a whole month. The pvp, guild war, PK caravan and cozy conversations with like-minded people. I don't regret the purchase. How many AAA projects have I bought and played for less than 10 hours? Many. Here I spent about 800 hours.

[young elbow]

does this also work for my 2018 orders 😭

[past grove]

agreed. id play it as is....

[gaunt iron]

Karen is relaunching it as a mobile gacha...Ashes is saved

[fast prairie]

Did everything shut down yet?

[ebon shale]

.

[hybrid quartz]

agreed waited 2 years to play picked it up near the beginning of phase 3 i didnt even get that much time in the game and still enjoyed every second.

[steep grove]

AoC Classic about to be released!

[velvet hamlet]

Hmm, so you made a series of catastrophic decisions that led you to sell your company and consequently lose control of your project, your original idea and the future of Ashes of Creation.

In response to that, you decided to resign, put yourself out of the way and let the project collapse. Was there not a different course of action? Couldn't you have stayed in that position of disadvantage and fight from within to regain control and mitigate damage? Like the whole thing imploded in such a short period of time that is shocking but you decided to save yourself rather than sinking with the boat?

It looks like you just want to show yourself as the good guy who couldn't prevent the wreckage but at the same time are the first one taking shelter and left the rest of the staff at their own luck...
The community and your employees definitely deserve more clarity than that.
Cheers

[rancid adder]

Why is everyone so mad tho? 😠

[lean horizon]

Dude it's so sad. The game was actually pretty good and had big potential, the devs did great work. Too bad Steven is a lying cuck who has no clue how to run a business.

[silent storm]

@vague leaf we are waiting...

[livid oasis]

who is the villain? Karen or Steven? We don't know

[hearty apex]

The way I look at it is ... I paid 275 total for the alpha 2 ... I put in probably 500-750 hours ... that's $0.50 per hour of entertainment... I got my money's worth... compared to other games I pay 60 for and beat it in like 100 hours or less

[vast elm]

100% agree, I paid for early access and 100% got my money's worth and would continue to play, really sorry for the staff that got laid off and wish them all the very best, I don't think this was an intentional rug pull but my opinion won't change anyone's mind.

[fallow stirrup]

guy takes out multiple loans against his business so he can keep paying himself a hefty salary and then eventually jumps ship when the walls close in and they demand repayment. why you lot still coping?

[stoic pecan]

It's crazy that the last thing on steam news is a letter saying vera is growing. Posted the same day the whole dev team was fired lol

[atomic rock]

so should we delete the game ?

[wintry snow]

Obviously Karen but to some extent Steven as well. Karen & co just layed off the entire studio and more or less killed the game.

[fair inlet]

Source code leak when?

[wet flower]

Who is this “Karen” everyone is speaking about?

[modest rain]

so are we getting any official response?

[sonic mural]

i wonder why people didn't go to steven's house already to hit him with a bat or smth all his adresses are leaked...

[tropic flare]

her legit name...Karen took over

[vale wave]

Maybe because it's not that damn serious?

[grand pebble]

The cope is real , move on the game is done

[vocal meteor]

WHERE IS THE OFFICAL INFO?

[quick socket]

Steven already made a statement and left.

[old copper]

Who's gonna release a statement? Everyone is fired.

[silk stump]

that's a wild thing to say, no one should die over this.. you need help

[vernal comet]

If the code gets leaked, they can't tell you when or even hint at it happening. Anything can get followed back to them.

[azure violet]

Just buy back the company from the investors and move one, dont let the game die

[gentle cypress]

We are all on a ship sailing. The crew all jumped overboard and we still here. No captain anymore to tell us whats going on.

[obtuse beacon]

3482 people playing right now, 3400 bots, 82 players <grin>

And the game is still for sale on Steam. About to be 8am in California, maybe we will get answers in 1-2 hours.

[gray parrot]

Lmao everyone wants closure but maybe this is one of those unceremonious endings that leaves you unsatisfied

[sour field]

Guys if we all just pitch in our own life savings, maybe steven can buy back the company

[versed eagle]

lol, like she was the one lending money to the studio who couldnt make the ends meet and wouldnt compromise to reduce costs and somehow Karen is the one to blame and not Steven who took 14 loans against the studio and ruined it financially and told everyone that there were no investors, no board, and that funding was secured and the studio was financially healthy?

[clear wharf]

Steven was kicking a can down the road. It all came back to bit him and people suffered. Instead of a sunset on a game he could not pay and an image he was trying to keep he ended up makeing it worse.

[blazing oak]

anyone has a picture of steven giving the middle finger lol

[main totem]

Wouldn’t a bunch of legal transfers of ownership need to happen before anyone can make an official statement? Id think there’s a process that would have to happen on that before anyone can come out and say what’s actually happening

[sleek comet]

Steven will be spending his next few years fighting lawsuits from investors and creditors. I doubt he wants the game back.

[bronze geyser]

Dear developers! Please make some kind of official statement already. The entire community has been in the dark for two days now, like blind kittens. 🙈

[nocturne solar]

Funny that this sever is now probably controlled by a literal 70 yo Karen that is most likely incapable of turning a PC on by herself lmao

[spice cedar]

What developers?

[dusk wedge]

This chat is almost as entertaining as the game is.

[jovial terrace]

they are gone bucko

[maiden cypress]

Ashes died faster than Chronicles of Elyria

[jolly raptor]

thats when the real fun starts 🗡️

[wintry imp]

Highguard outlived Ashes

[halcyon sleet]

No official anouncement either from old or new owners....wtf thats weird

[lavish canyon]

crybabies always mad when they get their toys taken away, thats why xD

[shut dagger]

lol

[errant hornet]

❤️ 💔

[warped bough]

No official statement is wild though

[severe bobcat]

Pretty sure the ship also jumped overboard 💀

[near cipher]

Steven mate, it’s time to tell us what the fuck you did buddy.

[south wadi]

I'm sure we'll hear from Steven before we hear from some of our dads.

[solid flame]

give me ur gold boys i will sped it on some drugs

[median tendon]

Probably a legal battle so they can't tell shit

[acoustic glade]

f

[autumn raft]

The only people left, don't have the social media logins

[sage fjord]

Steven still here just not active... Sorry I was misinformed

[vivid basalt]

No. He didnt. @vague leaf

[dull finch]

So when is this Netflix Series coming out about AoC? Feels similar to Tiger King with Joe Exotic and Rob Lowe. Lotta sketchy lies and criminal activity going on lol

[shrewd ravine]

@tribal haven can you slide me some of those sweet sweet server files? my dms are open 🙏

[analog lynx]

Who was Carol in the whole thing?

[oblique gorge]

yall got SCAMMED lol. the steam release was a cash grab, make no mistake! they release on steam, and ONCE the funds were available to withdraw the took the money and closed shop. Steven was in bed with RMT and DUPERS from the fucking guilds that people had been calling out for months. what a fucking joke. game coulda been good to if they just balanced gear and added lawless zones. bunch of MLM faudster scamming bitches in this company. stupid assholes. now we cant even talk more than once every 30 minutes. WHAT YALL TRYING OT HIDE LOL. DUMB SHITS

[wispy birch]

Hello guys why I can’t play Hoc ?

[left junco]

but do we still get the beetle mount from ptr though??

[wet rune]

Actually, no...🤣🤣 that "game" had nothing solid to play.
At least this one you could log in and play several different chars in a good-sized world. 👍

[astral vapor]

old man shouts into the void

[supple apex]

🤡

[plucky harness]

The only people left are the gloaters and the copers.

[amber harbor]

Steam support dont say me no to the refund . They are looking the situation right now so maybe i have the money back boys.

[hot crane]

Steven is still in the discord as are a number of the other old staff they just aren't appearing on the rightside anymore either because they changed perms to be hidden or the are offline. But him and probably most of the other staff wont be commenting on anything else anyways.

[jade mason]

Ashes of Scam

[gray radish]

Massive coper here

[arctic helm]

Tulnar turned out to be fake afterall.

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[subtle pike]

After all you know what...Pantheon will win rofl

[stoic bridge]

Tbc hype 🤣

[autumn shadow]

FOREVER WIPE HYPE

[grizzled peak]

you truly think you're hot shit and that isn't wrong. you're a steaming pile. you deserve your failures and many more that come your way. pussy

[teal sage]

This games combat was so good. I hope it is adopted by someone somewhere. Every class was so good.

[rich delta]

I want to know what idiot spread the rumor that staff left discord and also why people aren’t just taking 5 seconds to check that it isn’t true.

There’s enough dogshit practices and bad things going on without people lying to exaggerate them. Probably false statements aligned with possibly true ones will make people believe neither.

[wispy dock]

Are you ret or what

[faint garnet]

imagine we v got sc@mmed by beard wife

[wary rose]

Guys what the fuck happened. I just went away for 1 week.

[magic tapir]

Is this Discord listed as a digital asset?

[dire nova]

What time is it in california rn? 8:00 Morning ?

[hot oxide]

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[barren valve]

25 people each spent 5000$ for a package that's crazy

[languid sun]

Steven resigned reportedly due to some unknown board that forced him to layoff a large portion of Intrepid. After he resigned they proceeded to lay off the ENTIRE company. It is unknown whether they will continue development or what. My belief is that they will wait 6 months and then sell it or continue development overseas but not with open development as before

[remote quarry]

Jahlon is live

[whole goblet]

Valve denied my money

[proper ice]

So anyone got suggestion for other games that may scratch the AOC itch? I feel like no other MMOs quite hit it.

[raven tiger]

Didn’t know there was a big bad board calling the shots…

[rustic lava]

I would assume so, because large discords are sold off often in gaming communities. IK a discord I helped create was sold for 6k and they only had 20k members

[nimble cradle]

They denied you because the game isnt going anywhere, this toxic ass community is just doing what they do best, being toxic and negative with no official news."But everyone was fired" Company's do this all the time and outsource it to cheap labor and there is plenty of evidence this is what's happening,welcome to the real world.

[junior charm]

at least if they outsource it maybe we will get a patch instead of 2 lines of code edited every month lmaooo

[whole scaffold]

I don't care where the new Dev's are from if they update the game and do not have to roll them back an hour later, hire them. Better than what we had.

[modern hollow]

albion is closest to ashes but its top down

[quiet idol]

time for aa classic

[gleaming tulip]

Hot take: The game if continued, will be better without Steven than if it had been left in his charge.

Currently its RMT of Creation.

[formal root]

So excited for AI slop of creation

[winged trench]

That’s likely what we have already been testing tbh

[untold eagle]

so theres no devs left in the discord?

[wary stone]

Where and name?

[final void]

why is hard for people to understand there ARE NO MORE DEVS the company is gone.... no "dev" is going to sit in here and make statements for a company they DONT WORK FOR

[iron pollen]

I'm going to go old school-style and play some Pantheon.

[lost jay]

was ashes also in epstein's files?

[balmy folio]

Steven was in here last night making statements. Small but statements

[wintry badger]

<@&542059693779058748> No official information?

[small oar]

are servers still up?

[austere bay]

damn he hasn't died yet

[near rampart]

Kickstarter states full refund if game doesnt launch lmao

[queen heart]

3k players so i think,ye

[prisma pier]

They need to have money to give you it back 😂

[proper cosmos]

im more saddened we got lied to about the games funding then the actual game folling apart

[soft cliff]

It technically launched on Steam so rip

[eternal hemlock]

3k bots *

[sacred panther]

someone needs to support those bots go buy some GOLD

[sinful barn]

Bro whatever mods are left are in a state of confusion and are so stressed they had to put on 6 hour slow modes they arent gonna know shit let alone reply

[tribal shore]

Swarm hype?
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[nimble junco]

@half pilot is at least online, but no news is still bad news. No posts for 6 hours! laters! XD

[dawn ledge]

Is the slow mode 30 mins or 6 hours?

[vague saffron]

its like 8 am in california

[soft field]

30 minutes for this channel, 6 hours for the questions channel

[white dew]

I wouldn't wonder if they were forced/convinced to better stay silent. Also their pain, especially of the ones that hat to go, must be insane..

[reef crater]

yeah it's always the morning XD.. heard this since 10h ^^

[woven panther]

Game is not dead, just on pause til things get worked out.

[unkempt latch]

Just remember folks, it ain't a war crime the first time

[placid gazelle]

It did launch… on steam and crashed in blazing fire but could still recover?

[grave radish]

Ashes of Cremation.

[burnt inlet]

pvp in every other mmo sucks. someone give me a good one

[last merlin]

Daoc bru

[forest crown]

Guys, the livestream of Ashes is today or was it also cancelled?

[dark walrus]

Gw2 on top

[grand ice]

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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡼⠀⢈⡏⢎⠳⣄⠀⡇⠙⠛⠟⠛⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⠻⠛⢱⢃⡜⡝⠈⠚⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠳⡌⠛⣶⣆⣷⣿⣦⣄⣀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠉⢉⣀⣤⡞⢛⣄⡀⢀⡨⢗⡦⠎⠀⠀⠀⠀
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[wet violet]

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[past grove]

you guys do realize they legally cant get in here an answer right ? anything said is unofficial. they can speak in no capacity for the game or intrepid. hoping the game still releases. id play as is.

[tardy jetty]

ur name translated to english is SAD, and its really SAD and idiotic that you are tagging Margaret after what happened to her, don't be an idiot go touch some grass

[snow gorge]

SIMP

[muted vault]

They don't work for the fucking company anymore how they fuck would they know. Jesus Christ you guys are fucking daft

[hearty shore]

(•_•)
<) )> “I refuse to be part of it.” - Sassy Steven.
/ \

[zealous linden]

It is now business hours in California. Not a peep. Just fuckin Bizarre.

[atomic dust]

Servers still up

[old sentinel]

LMFAOOO

[zealous sigil]

Dont expect any server restarts as things become more janky

[idle hornet]

Woah woah woah woah

[hoary rune]

More or less this! N even if its picked up n brought back again , playerbase is wiped to shit….the only moment theyll re-hype it is when they do the full launch. And even then it will surely also be a shortlived thing like u mentioned…

[spark crown]

They got the months mixed up. It ain't April yet

[somber quail]

Imagine paying into this travesty and then remaining hopeful after everyone who has worked on the project is replaced with CHEAP foreign labor and AI that you might get something you can play. Time for a soul check, some of you have none.

[placid granite]

Well this one way to get rid of the Bots Steven just close the game lol

[mortal stag]

so does this mean no beetle?

[crisp anvil]

Any najash pt forming? need to max lvl

[next crescent]

Anyone know any good MMO's with combat and classes similar to this?

[left radish]

Nah you’re getting it, sit tight

[vernal anvil]

i mean the team sucked ass for the most part since the transition to UE5 so i dunno if there would have been any difference xD

[marble cedar]

Archage.

[fringe ore]

Mortal online 2 needs more Dead players for a Dead Game Sub too!!

[atomic kettle]

yeah AAC does what AoC could not

[dusky mica]

guys guys YOU HAVE TO buy one MORE account TO help them with TROUBLES
😇 😇 😇 😇 😇 😇 😇 😇 😇

[versed eagle]

as long as they finish the project I dont mind if its cheaper foreign labour. I do mind whoever run this to the ground tho

[jaunty stirrup]

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⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣼⣿⡋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣤⠶⢛⣫⣭⣭⠿⠾⠯⣭⣭⣍⣛⢦⣀⣤⣶⣞⣋⣭⢭⣭⣭⣭⣭⣟⣓⣶⠀⠑⠄
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[swift pewter]

Since servers are still up, lets go kill bot's, pretty sure we wont get banned now . 🙂

[blazing compass]

Good morning! is there any new news to report today?

[cloud dune]

[knotty axle]

steve is gay

[tender urchin]

WIPE HYPE

[wraith wyvern]

[light thunder]

Anyone actually- successfully- manage to get a steam refund?

[storm willow]

Can we all have flying mounts now?

[rich pendant]

can't believe steven got divorced and his husband took the whole game with him

[maiden cypress]

Just in time for WoW Midnight 👀

[mint gale]

he is the MLM fucker lmao
he is the predator

he took money from them because he is one of them. He wasn't taken advantage of.

[copper bear]

It was a marketing stunt o.o

[high sequoia]

You mispelled "TBC Anniversary"

[high jolt]

Man, so i herd this "self funded" video game got stolen by the borg? Tis a sad day

[coarse goblet]

all of the board that steven took money from come from the MLM world

karen, ryan ogden, caramis, alkazin

im not saying steven was taken advantage of. i know his history.

@fading meadow idk why you think i wasnt bothered before. im not defending steven

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[vocal meteor]

@half pilot @vague leaf @tribal haven 💔

[honest sleet]

Not to play devil's advocate but if this was a scam the whole time it's a rather shit scam and he wouldn't have made out with a lot of money lol. It'd be more lucrative to sell diet pills.

[fading meadow]

and that bothers you just now, but not back then, how comes?

[somber niche]

Are servers still online?

[deep silo]

This would be one hell of a long term scam that started back in 2017

[fair inlet]

If everybody is fired there's nobody to pull the plug LMAO

[kind dragon]

Bro

[oblique gorge]

Y'all dumb as hell still thinking the games coming out. THEY GONE. THEY PACKED UP AND LEFT AND DIDNT EVEN PAY THE EMPLOYEES LOL. They cashed the fuck out after steam gave them their money. ADIOS BITCHES. I been on here pointing out how they made ZERO progress this entire phase and all you intrepid ass lickers were trying to keep me quiet. Look at you now fools I WAS RIGHT. all they needed was LAWLESS PVP ZONES AND GAME WOULDA SURVIVED. BUT THEY CATERED TO PVE PLAYERS AND ONCE THEY SAW HOW ANNOYING AND WHINY THE PVE PLAYERS WERE THEY CASHED OUT. I WOULDA TOO WHAT A BORING WAY TO PLAY SANDBOX MMO JUST PVE ALL DAY AND SHIT WTF

[raw jolt]

I feel like he just didn’t want to deal with this anymore, 3 failed patches and the game wasn’t doing as good as he expected it to on steam launch.

[craggy cairn]

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[plain sluice]

MORE LIKE ASSES OF CREATION

[prime sable]

you realize steam DOES NOT do refunds if you played the game for more then 2 hours. the actual refund doesnt come from steam but the game company itself.

[native field]

Don't worry guys. I heard that they're going to reveal the full release at the next fyre festival

[young osprey]

Go back to preaching on your street corner hobo.

[sage cobalt]

Worst thing out of all of this is that I could have saved my money for alcohol for an entire month or so

[main vessel]

I'm so sad, I know a lot of people are mad... But I wanted this game Soo badly!!

[acoustic fiber]

I'm confused about this two person board making decisions that one of the two people didn't find ethical... This was all a scam from the start. Whale player say he wants to make a game without P2W and then never releases the game. I was all for this too, but if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. I'll be leaving the scam discord now.

[river ravine]

Ty

[torpid burrow]

I saw on Reddit a good theory. Polar exploited so hard they duplicated board seats

[sick inlet]

Ah, but even in defeat, there is a game to be played. The cards have been dealt, but the deck is not yet empty...the greatest trick of all is yet to come.

[frank onyx]

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that steven put a bullet in his own head somewhere in a motel.

[copper cairn]

servers go down yet?

[flint sage]

Nah sounds too good to be true

[fading karma]

Why would he, he's still a millionare even before this

[flat arrow]

the "stress test" for the beetle mount was to show investors how many people they can expect to pay for this game if they were to continue development

[glossy dawn]

Is this discord going to continue existing?

[floral cloud]

Burg brain

[vale smelt]

Why is the game still up for sale on Steam if it is being shut down? Simple question.

[smoky geyser]

WTS ARSH INCANTARIS 105 GOLD BEST PRICE

[rugged ridge]

bc not even intrepid knows whats gonna happen

[full haven]

He doesn't owe you fuck all and he likely just lost his job so maybe you can just go fuck yourself and leave him alone.

[frank jolt]

Is there seriously no updates?

[pliant prism]

Alright, god damn, most of you are absolutely hateful and nasty. You are mad that you think Steven was a horrible human being for possibly scamming you - so you try to prove that you are a worse human being?? For fuck sake, grow the hell up. No one yet knows what was truly happening or what is going to happen.

Do I think Steven probably made some very bad business decisions from the little bit of evidence I have seen so far? YES, absolutely. But this game is good and could be great with the right guidance and development. I am still watching because I want the game to continue, even if under someone else's leadership.

Those of you being absolutely nasty, go away. You are what hurt this game in the first place, long before this current drama.

[stray thistle]

Nothing official has been stated by the company, just everyone that we knew worked there is gone.

Still got to wait to see what "Intrepid" officially does

[viscid sluice]

this

[near rampart]

I have a hard time believe the alpha 2 "launch" on steam hold ups when its in steam early access still and also maintained alpha status through the entire process.

[devout vine]

It's gonna be pretty funny if the source code for AoC is sold off and it rises from the ASHES in a few years time. Too soon?

[modest skiff]

there is no continue, buyout, new dev. its dead and in the ether

[torn pond]

Thought there would be a statement by now. Maybe by lunch.

[solid nacelle]

Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust as a friend said.

[worthy iron]

well hello there! What's the release date?

[light wolf]

What time do the servers shutdown today?

[livid oasis]

people don't realize the difference between lying and being wrong/making a mistake. Intent matters, even for the outcome

[scarlet trout]

lol you think this was something that just happened? you think the entire team there didnt know this was happening? the steam move was a last ditch effort for invostors and/or money(rugpull) allof them knew the writing was on the wall and said nothing to us... F them all

[acoustic swift]

He stood unshaken, a voice in the storm
A man of conviction, a heart reborn
He spoke the truth when the cost was high
He lived for Jesus, unafraid to die
We are Charlie Kirk, we carry the flame
We'll fight for the Gospel, we'll honor his name
We are Charlie Kirk, his courage our own
Together unbroken, we'll make Heaven known
A husband, a father, his family held near
A home built on Scripture, on faith without fear
The world tried to silence, but his voice remains
In us it echoes, in Christ it sustains
We are Charlie Kirk, we carry the flame
We'll fight for the Gospel, we'll honor his name
We are Charlie Kirk, his courage our own
Together unbroken, we'll make Heaven known
The battle is raging, the darkness will fall
We rise with his spirit, we answer the call
The truth is eternal, the Cross is our guide
With God as our Captain, we march side by side
We are Charlie Kirk, we carry the flame
We'll fight for the Gospel, we'll honor his name
We are Charlie Kirk, his courage our own
Together unbroken, we'll make Heaven known
We are Charlie Kirk
Forever alive
We are Charlie Kirk
With God we will rise

[dire granite]

💯

[fervent ether]

ну вы и фрики тут конечно

[cunning coral]

its like 9am on the west coast so they just got in to work so it might be a few more hours till a response. or they will leave it till the livestream

[magic isle]

you wont like what happens when gameforge, tencent or NCsoft gets their hands on ashes xD
game is probably pretty dead either way.

[pseudo token]

Whether it’s the community managers, the moderators, or Steven himself, none of them can say anything publicly yet. Given the situation the news confirmed by the media, the mass layoffs, and the shutdown of a small studio like Intrepid everything is now in the hands of the lawyers.

Steven has to wait until they tell him what he’s allowed to say before we get any kind of Discord announcement about server closures, if they end up closing, or any other information. For now, no one is able to say anything

[grizzled cairn]

Polars fault

[fathom thicket]

POLAR KNEW

[pearl tinsel]

are the servers down yet?

[wild prairie]

weak devs

[grave spindle]

Wow so they fked us ? Refund ?

[tight light]

who?

[orchid quail]

See yall in Guild Wars 2, just like the New World ppl did

[polar eagle]

They at least need to say, "hey we are going through some shit, servers are coming down for the time being, more info when we can release it".

[elder mist]

Are the servers still up on steam?

[sage nebula]

yup

[hearty shore]

(•_•)
<) )> “I refuse to be part of it.” - Sassy Steven
/ \

[dry quartz]

Femboy steven

[vague heron]

DA selling gold and steven was in on it xDD

[iron pollen]

I agree, a lot of people seem unhinged. Especially some of the racist, homophobic, and xenophobic stuff people are saying.

However, I can understand being upset because they feel like the face of the company was bald-face lying to them. I don't think anyone faults the developers or are even saying the game was bad (people obviously enjoyed it) but we were told time and time again it was funded to a full launch by Steven and that any extra crowd funding was for ancillary development.

There is a difference between bad business decisions and being deceitful.

[soft merlin]

This. If there is no one with direct legitimate access to IT infrastructure anymore, that'll take a couple of days to get resolved - but someone has to make decisions first. Edit: Servers are still up. At least 'shol' is. Someone said that Resna was lagging or something. Also, all bots that were there 12 hours ago appear to be there. Edit2: The bot 'adsd' is still present in Bonfire on 'shol', and new characters are still being pumped out that interact with that Lvl 4 character. Strange huh?

[unkempt latch]

I just wanted to play a good necromancer class in an MMO Y_Y

Edit: I said a good necromancer class, not ESO or GW2.

[waxen tundra]

so im not the only one gw2 is trash for it btw incase any idiots try to say that game

[ebon comet]

GW2 has a good one

[shadow ruin]

i just wanted to ambush and murder people for contract killings

[abstract meadow]

What does selling his house to his husband before the Steam launch say? I'm maybe slow

[eager elbow]

I heard this was all intentional to create a great mmorpg just to cuck it, enraging the nations to fulfil the "time of Jacob's trouble" (Jeremiah 30:7) prophecy so they can summon their god, what u think?

[hearty wren]

I just wanted another Archeage like game :c

[lavish sage]

If the WARN act notices are legitimate, there's zero reason for any company hosting the servers to continue. If the company can't even make payroll, wtf makes you think they can pay server costs

[runic quest]

he knew the creditors were coming after him so he started transferring assets, while at the same time releasing the game on steam to try and get more money

[plucky harness]

He transferred his assets so people couldn't come after them in lawsuits, a fairly common tactic of scammers.

[midnight bear]

gay

[solemn trellis]

just bought The Quinfall for 10 bucks and so far it seems pretty solid. Weapons that define class like New World, has fishing and autofishing, ships and rafts players own, mounts, fast travel points it seems, lasso to catch your own horse or other things, just started and to travel on mount to one of the far spots on map would take 45 minutes . it also has autopath if stay on the path. def worth trying for 10 BUCKS! It does have pvp side but not fam, only been playing an hour or more. Come blow up this community with people until Archeage Chronicles or Chrono Odyssey comes out with meeee 😄 I picked US PVE (not sure if pve/pvp option is different)

Scam or not, ITS UP unlike AoC and gives me time to kill until Archeage/Chrono and it cost 10 bucks, you cant even get a meal at McDonalds that cheap anymore

"asset flipping" is allowed and even if you go to unreal engine they sell their assets and charge more if you make more than 1million . instead of paying 15 bucks for personal use now its like 40 bucks. It speeds up production, not sure why you all dont play a game beacuse its "asset flipping" you still have to troubleshoot them and get them all to work together correctly.

[neon forum]

Does this mean our stress testing on the ptr went well?

[elfin aurora]

gotta catch all the scams

[potent scarab]

you do realize quinfall is a huge scam lol. Theres been lots of info on that, you need to go back do your research.

[hazy shard]

is there an exact date and time when they are closing the servers? thx

[dawn ledge]

Who? Who would say that?

[fallen hawk]

6pm

[somber quail]

Kiss that 10 bucks goodbye

[waxen marsh]

Woah, so no official comms yet? Damn.

[surreal marlin]

You bought a asset flipping scam

[modern marsh]

The game still online or no ?

[cyan cloak]

They probably gonna sell the IP to a bigger company

[shy warren]

There's not even any fuckin lore

[wintry snow]

Doubt it

[toxic edge]

yes

[faint totem]

Oh no not again

[tranquil agate]

I'll buy it, 50p.

[torn stirrup]

Why play either way??

[delicate osprey]

As much as I wish there was, none that I am personally aware of 🙁 💔

[idle hornet]

I wanna get in on this MLM scheme, hmu

[blazing oak]

IMAGINE WORKING ON A GAME FOR 10 YEARS ONLY TO LEAVE OVER NIGHT

[swift pewter]

I see @half pilot is back in discord 🙂

[smoky sorrel]

Just want to know is it fact that the board only 2 ppl ?

[silver flower]

Imagine AOC servers are just up for the next month lmao. They pre paid that sever shit

[vague saffron]

10am already and people dont even know if they have a job or not

[tight crest]

on official papers yes

[delicate osprey]

I as much as you guys probably, hope we will get some official messaging hopefully maybe today 💔

[slate egret]

We have enough WoW clones that nobody plays. Not sure why you’d want the another dead one.

[dawn wadi]

That would be most welcomed.

[real plinth]

u are delusional xD if naything it will be gacha p2w shit

[maiden cypress]

$100 fishing simulator is dead then...

[lean horizon]

Not happening, the new owner is an MLM CEO and has no plan to continue a game which loses millions per year.

[sage peak]

All of these people are hounding for information but pretty much the entire company just lost their damn jobs. We’re gonna have to be patient as information comes out, there is no more community manager or staff. You just have Discord mods trying to keep this last little ship from falling apart

[brittle steeple]

Been here all the time, but hidden from time to time.

[meager lynx]

Amazing that mods are still here modding. Should be studied for a psych paper. Could be big

[surreal flax]

We have to face the facts, if a positive and reassuring message from them was going to be sent, they would have already done so.

[uneven perch]

If only to quell the panic yup.

[lethal turret]

PLEASE stay safe and take care ❤️

[fallow sundial]

i have not felt this depressed and angry at the same time in a couple of years...

[indigo python]

Crazy there is no official announcement about this current situation.

[visual rune]

can we just have the source code so people can make a private server thats just focused on the riverlands until all the systems actually work plz

[edgy tapir]

There is no one left to do an announcement, the idiots fired everyone...

[timber idol]

Bottom line, yall pitching about a video games complaining about it. You liked it you hated it. Go touch grass...

100 to 200 people just lost their income and are now searching for jobs. Sure the elite few might have seen this coming but the masses are about to be devastated.

[main silo]

Days later and still no announcement in sight. I can’t wait for the eventual documentary rights that @vague leaf sells to finance his next big project

[mild plover]

Probably no statement bc the board is busy trying to ship production to the Philippines. Everyone who could comment is either jobless or starting legal battles

[fathom moon]

Do you have perms to turn off reacts in #questions - it’s too much chaos lmao

[autumn shadow]

Why would you make an announcement for a company you no longer work for?

[old sentinel]

this livestream on the 13th is gonna be crazy! we've got some big developments from the team and to talk about all the new content we'll have the following people on:

[obtuse beacon]

3538 players right now connected - so thats 3400 bots and 138 players?

[delicate osprey]

Not for the whole channel no 🙁

[weary zodiac]

Can't wait to get my golden scarab mount from that PTR test! Am i right lads?

[hasty spruce]

ashes of scam

[quaint ledge]

Time to bread and circus while shmoking weed due to all this drama.

Still shitty to see a thirty minute chat timer. I truly cannot help myself from fat fingering at times.

I will get right in the middle of saying something then

[snow sleet]

hey, at least you can sleep now...

[knotty axle]

heard steven is gay! cant support this game anymore.

[merry ridge]

WTB>Tendonite on Lotharia. Pm me

[chrome steppe]

is AOC Age of Conan now again?

[wooden mica]

This community its the most toxic ive ever seen lol, in here on discord, the positive people the negative people all toxic

[woeful kayak]

Only the extremes mostly post here

[atomic kettle]

i’m sure they can sell the game to someone , seems like a waste to just shelve it

[vernal sonnet]

Welcome to any MMO discord ever 😂

[shadow escarp]

scars of honor is right around the corner

[gusty panther]

Supposed to get it Mid February 2126

[lucid comet]

Selling the game to who? Someone who will turn it into a cash grab gatcha.

[edgy barn]

Are you fucking kidding me? You literally are so censored on here. This is one of the most polite communities I’ve ever seen. Go touch grass nerd.

[nocturne solar]

Vaknar online!

[quick sun]

LFG XP farm Lvl 16 mage

[grave dome]

+1

[worthy geyser]

has there been any official announcement yet?

[tender tulip]

Not yet

[static wigeon]

It's funny how many people trash talked Star Citizen in here yet here we are lol, feel free to sign up to SC with my referral code xD STAR-KQ3B-F5Z5

[last obsidian]

I think they just fired half the people and got new leadership lol

[grave radish]

If you think this community is toxic.. play any competitive game

[obsidian radish]

Am I still gonna get my gilded beetle mount though

[leaden depot]

Soooo.... WoW Ascension anyone?

[oblique gorge]

Lmao I keep checking in and there's dipshIts STILL coping that this game will be release. ITS DONE! THEY BLEW IT! YOU UNDERSTAND YET?!?! Most of this community couldn't handle a sandbox PVP MMO anyway. That's prolly why they cashed the fuck out and LEFT y'all hanging. They spent 10 years working on pvp driven MMO only to realize most of the community wants p2w trash, PVE ONLY, STUPID ASS SKINS AND CRAP. God damn I can't believe howany of y'all were against actual pvp and wanted crappy corruption. Y'all literally just wanted to chop trees all day lol. Steven saw that shit and DIPPED lol

[full haven]

Shocker...... The p2w money pit didn't run out of money even after spending almost a billion dollars. Not the kind of standard we were hoping to set here.

[last merlin]

ok

[tacit spade]

maybe get a job instead

[weak plank]

but its gonna have bars soon.

[daring siren]

Why do you keep "checking in" then?

[elder holly]

Are you aware of the rumor that Amazon bought the game, or if that is just a rumor in all this mess? Now i am not sitting on any info, but looking at the recent meltdown we have right now, I'm sorry but anything would be better than nothing in terms of info. I mean, sure i get it that certain papers and documents are super secret squirrel sh*t with nda´s...but Come on! What about the community? Left and right people are " funny " spamming garbage and celebrating the death of the game..with zero understanding that this will hurt mmo games as a whole. It cannot have been a surprice that we want to know basically anything after being supporters for weeks, month´s or even years. Who bought the ip is all i wanna know, because if that f**kstain amazon has it´s grubby sticky taxdodging fingers in any of this, i am never touching this game again. You cannot buy everything with money, and amazon can eat a big bag of moist 🤬

[winter mountain]

Big ships go brrrrrr.

[lofty cypress]

Amazon is shutting down their whole gaming division.. why would they be aquiring new games? lol

[dusky mica]

LET AT LEAST JANITOR MAKE AN ANNOUNCE GUYS WTF 3 DAYS IN A ROW WITHOUT ANY REPLY BESIDES STEVEN'S COPIUM "THE BOARD"

[polar lily]

Hell nahh, rather see my 375$ burn than playing a game form amazon

[wraith orbit]

Welp, back to SWTOR.

[grave tree]

+1

[royal anchor]

where our new skin?

[kind falcon]

looks like star citzen is all we got left hopefully they dont rake us for our money

[tiny vapor]

yeah baby i chopped trees all day and i liked it, would spend money on it again

[subtle lagoon]

Amazon publicly stated they were completely done with MMORPGs when they shuttered New World and canceled the LotR MMO last year, thats definitely just a rumor

[zinc mauve]

Btw the lore on the website was chat GPT written and it's extremely obvious.

[supple flame]

Bold of you to assume someone listening to and regurgitating rumors will have done actual research into anything.

[robust jay]

SWTOR actually ended up being a great game.

[fallow stirrup]

amazon have a perfectly functional and released game, they were also developing another. why the heck would they buy this pos?

[modest skiff]

star citizen is an even more obvious scam. 938 million in funding btw

[golden vale]

Did Tanko take down ashes?

[desert steppe]

everyone always comparing MMORPGs to Star Citizen as if Star Citizen is some kind of comparable RPG. What is this copium.

[crimson thistle]

Minus the hate i had fun and hope to continue in one way or another best of luck to the teams

[fair snow]

Scam to Scam? 🙂

[lunar badge]

they all got laid off dude, they don't work here anymore, it's over, there's not going to be any communication

[void tendon]

After this case there will be no more "indie MMORPG" no one will fund something like this again.

[rustic lava]

Isnt SC just a whale game?

[gray parrot]

Dude shut the fuck up why are you pinging community managers every 30 minutes? They are gone.

[balmy isle]

i have sadly already seen people say they are willing to back another steven project if it comes

[modest gull]

"💔Heartbroken" as her status. RIP.

[jaunty crown]

[barren valve]

There's a new mmorpg that launch on Kickstarter and there's people already paying

[lapis vault]

wtf is that supposed to mean?

[zenith hornet]

Wtb JM fishing bag

[silk rampart]

wtb Corrupted Chili Flakes

[prisma pier]

It’s been like that since the news broke. Just damn sad man 😞

[oblique cypress]

we luv you @half pilot !!!

[woven panther]

Game is not dead, it will be back. In what form or with what team will unfold in the next little while. Zero chance this jsut dies, worst case tencent buys it. <Future me: Told ya so>

[golden vortex]

stop lying game is dead nobody gonna trust them anymore

[gritty hazel]

Copium goes hard.

[fathom crow]

@vague leaf hey, can we all who backed before steam get a refund? Since you scammed us. Might aswel do one final good act.

[gentle void]

being able to see what the mods are deleting is interesting, it paints a picture

[golden yoke]

i paid 250 euros for that, honestly money well spend. i had fun for over a year, i have paid more for less in other cases

[silent reef]

how is dead before creation? still in alpha guys?

[void forge]

hey; anyone able to confirm if the 2/2 thing happened?

[solar epoch]

People like u is whats wrong with the gaming community these days. Stay away from gaming and go do some cycling on the road. Maybe we can search for u

[agile wharf]

Game is generic uninspired high fantasy asset flip with no valuable IP or tech. Ain't nobody interested in it

[cosmic sky]

imagine all those refund beggars? I spent 400 on 4 accounts (2 for me and 2 for my friends)
And i got so much fun last year that it worth way more than that 400$
That was good run lads, thx to all devs and managers

[pine bronze]

Well guys is time to give a try to The Quinfall, even with assets better gameplay and combat xd

[livid oasis]

wow an admin is actually online.
@hardy summit You've been here for as long as I've lol

[hardy summit]

holy shit ur still here pig boy? god damn

[warped meteor]

Cope harder. We got scammed. Enjoy your 400 game that lasted 6 weeks on steam.

[subtle hemlock]

Alot of adult children in here.

[weak burrow]

A week ago they may have been able to sell the company / IP to someone.

But now? Itd be better for a company to start fresh. AoC's name was already attached ot MLM and "maybe it's a scam" but now if you Google the name it's nothing but "the game is dead" and "we told you it was a scam" and in the coming months YouTube will be filled with video essays about it's negatives.

Someone buying this IP would be shooting themselves in the foot.

[elder prawn]

Man. Glad I sold my account 4 years ago

[acoustic swift]

There is no slowmode in feedback topics btw. Select one and chat in there

[shy warren]

VC has been active for 39 hours lmfao

[cobalt wren]

im not sure about that, if a reputable company were to buy it and make a show about how it will have a new change in management and a clear progress plan, i think it could come back.

[terse kindle]

whats actually happend now,interesting no massage or announced anything!Its Intrepid Studio sold to other company or what?!

[amber kettle]

even if we believe him and his board story and even if he wins and gets back his company. no one will ever be interested to play this game anymore and that's if he can find devs who want to work for him, it is basically so joever.

[odd wing]

you may feel like that, but alot of people don't, the game was fun but we did not recieve alot of the things we purchased and it is 100% a scam if that is not refunded.

[agile crystal]

Yea,,, the last day,,, im going to touch some grass outside, and maybe find a work, wish me luck...

[past dragon]

The private equity group that runs the board and fired all the staff hasn’t given an update - so that’s where we are lol

[leaden flame]

lol is there even a private equity group?

[haughty fox]

are servers offline?

[empty shore]

nope

[final thorn]

they are busy scalping the workstations for gpus to sell to ai-techbros

[shut ermine]

No any annonce from the Studios ? It was like 24H without any response of this...

[knotty rapids]

its over for Ashes after 10 years of nonsense. we waited 10 years and they said "Ashes of Creation will dumpster Blizzard - WoW" ..... they failed hard.

[vocal meteor]

We are not 100% sure the game is actually closing either, so let's calm down and wait for offical news, or the law suit thing Steven talked about

[maiden willow]

3,500 playing as of 30minutes ago. Probably the bots who forgot to shutdown.

[glass spoke]

Too be honest:

My Ashes Guild here in germany was huuge! Will fall off because of this...
The biggest problem is: The poor souls loose their jobs! They did so much stuff for us all, you all saw what they have done for us the whole time!
Sooo many ppl are without a job right now!
Thank you @half pilot , thank you @wintry arch answered my problems, thanks you guys for everything you did here.
If you all hate or love @vague leaf , idc, but I say thank you for a whole chapter of chance he gave us for such a HUGE game.
I had a lot of nice pp, around me, a lot of ppl I learned to hate, who cares 😄

At least I want to say thanks to everyone! + Thanks to the community managers which do stuff while their freetime! @unreal wedge for example! Danke dir 🙂
Hope this project will be bought and polished by a another studio and wont become a p2w game.
Love for everyone I met.
-Sebastian by Havoc Germany🇩🇪 🫡

[long patrol]

just bought the game, heard this is the wow killer. what class should i play

[hard grail]

the refunder

[undone yoke]

even if this game didnt die , if they continued with their or steven "Vision" of horrible systems it would of still died lol

[tulip gale]

Don't expect anything official until maybe the Livestream on 2/13. I'm sure that was one of the main reasons it got push. But maybe it doesn't happen at all. Either way legal issues are going to hold up any official announcements.

[eager elbow]

try the rogue, so you get use to the vanishing act

[cloud dune]

[sinful barn]

guess ill go jerk it until classic+ comes out or another pay2win korean slop mmo releases

[wooden furnace]

we arnt getting a livestream dog lmfao

[honest sleet]

!stream

[rain raptor]

Are the servers still up?

[placid rampart]

Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1771009200:F>! The stream will kick off in 3 days 10 hours 26 minutes.

Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation

[median wigeon]

we really need something before that

[surreal hazel]

WTS JM Tailoring services

[willow badge]

someone said yes

[severe kestrel]

So if you’re a back from 2023 you basically screwed on the money huh

[fathom saddle]

Oh I can't wait for this one

[sage peak]

Bro even if you bought into the Steam launch you’re out on money. Everyone is out

[burnt pelican]

#1467727992619798702

[kind sedge]

So when do the servers go offline?

[potent niche]

Friday the 13th live stream. spooky

[rigid python]

i feel bad for bucky bro made such good classes and no one will get to see their full potentional

[dire granite]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[wispy dock]

Yes but deprecated

[rocky oxide]

amazon didn't buy shit they have shut down their entire gaming division new world is going offline the first of next year

[knotty axle]

LF guild just bought this game

[unkempt latch]

to tag along a little funny, when I first saw the news, it was on Reddit, showing Margaret's post about being let go, and I said aloud "Margaret lost her job" and my fiancée kept teasing me that I was sooo concerned about Margaret like I knew her or something 🤣

anyways the concept of ashes was fun, so sad to see this kinda ending, but hope you land on your feet @half pilot

[smoky sphinx]

GET FUCKED! @vague leaf

[inner geyser]

Guys, what if Steven’s account was just hacked, this is all cyber warfare, and a giant misunderstanding that the community overreacted on. That would be the movie of a lifetime

[iron pollen]

... who do you think is going to do a live stream? 🧐

[wet knoll]

This is obviously all just a the long con april fools guys, it's all gravey.

[rose crescent]

idc about my money i spent, or that I probably won't be able to get anymore fun out of AoC. I'm interested in what we will find out to be true and untrue from what's been said and fabricated the past few days. What matters the most (to me) is that I'm concerned about the fact that there could be employees here that may have been put in a horrible life situation due to all this that could be very difficult to recover from. I wish them all the best of luck, and to those who don't deserve my wishes (if any), I hope they change their life around and do something good enough to make up for any mistakes they made. Love and good vibes to all ❤️

[harsh aspen]

Yes they were as of an hour ago when I logged in to check.

[surreal flax]

cool story bro btw you're trying to get the attention of someone who doesn't care about your situation

[fringe slate]

Guys, i saw some vídeos and some articles, but it seems to be a bot dooming, can someone clear me out something? @vague leaf left yes, ok, bye, and what that means for Ashes? Will the game die tomorrow? Servers off etc? Development still goes? What is the real thing here?

[simple oxide]

Idk if it would be possible but I could see @vague leaf doing a live stream still. It would be awesome if the legal filings Steven talked about were shown on stream by him. Maybe also talking about what will come ahead for his plans for the company beyond the legal battle he is facing. Heck I'd support him if he said he is planning on turning over any assets he still owns to the public forum for us to work on completing the game as a community open sourced project.

[lyric whale]

Its dead. AoC is owned by the board and they planned to reduce the current team to a much smaller scale and move the remaining development to a cheaper team outside of the US. After the senior staff resigned the board pivoted and decided to an entire plant closure. Its really up to the board to either sell the IP or Steven fights for it legally over breach of fiduciary duty. Either way the game is dead in the water as of now and will likely remain this way for the foreseeable future.

[dusty jewel]

Steven’s off to scam elderly people with mango juice again.

[hearty shore]

(•_•)
<) )> “I refuse to be part of it.” - Sassy Steven
/ \

[wooden mica]

@lost drift is there any official statement coming or nah?

[slender thistle]

Whats wrong with people. Dude straight up lied to your faces, has lied to the faces of people in the past, dumped his house off knowing this was coming, and you'd still "support" him. Thats some emotional issues mate.

[severe bobcat]

FYI. Quite literally no one in this discord works for the company. No answers can or will be given by them.

[ebon badge]

What a history this game has written 🤣 the game will be content for years

[burnt flame]

The hype glows bright on the forums tonight
Not a launch date to be seen
A kingdom of speculation
And somehow I’m the whale, it seems

The pitch was howling like a dream inside
“Next big MMO,” they cried
“Just one more pack, just one more tier
Alpha access’s almost here”
Conceal the doubt, don’t question delays
Well, now it’s been years

Let it go, let it go
Can’t get my refund anymore
Let it go, let it go
Steam says “No,” Kickstarter slams the door
“I don’t care what the ToS will say”
Let the backlash rage on
The sunk cost fallacy anyway

It’s funny how some distance makes timelines shrink
And all those promises start to stink
And the fears that once controlled me—
“Just wait, it’ll be revolutionary”—

It’s time to see what I really bought
Concept art and a Discord mod
No right, no wrong, just vibes and lore
And a cash shop before the core

Let it go, let it go
I am one with the NDA
Let it go, let it go
You’ll never see gameplay
Here I sit, refreshing threads
Let the roadmap rage on

My money flurries through the store and disappears
My soul is spiraling in preorder years
And one thought crystallizes, sharp and fast:
“Early access is the past”

Let it go, let it go
And I’ll cope like it’s design
Let it go, let it go
That launch window died
Here I stand in the light of cope
Let the hype rage on
The refund never worked out anyway

[calm hamlet]

And the fact they still have it on steam is a scam. Imagine being a random player that doesnt keep up with ashes news or know about the game and buys it right now lmao

[rose pelican]

Think everyones just in shock, on the bright side theres no need to game anymore since the MMO market is so stale. It is pretty shady that Steven moved his assets into trusts on November 30th in prep for steam release. If I had to guess he knew it was all going down, EA was to avoid Kickstarter Refunds, Board is likely a PE/Hedge that looked into his finances and found out he was paying himself like 50% of the profit, deeper dive and they probably figured out his own team was selling gold in game....

[half panther]

100% will happen

[void lotus]

I hope Steven and the employees left suing this money greef company out of existens steam was the first cash grab from the high investors and now they wanted more. Glad it stopped before another microteamsaction hell opened

[carmine carbon]

yep, biggest red flag that it was a rugpull is that they will publicly make that announcement but leave it on steam to milk it

[worn ore]

"completing the game as a community open sourced project"
Ahahah, that's a good one.
This community is only good at getting scammed, not at making games.

[left radish]

@lost drift being in discord just means the statement is coming soon, sit tight ladies and gents

[whole goblet]

@vague leaf

[wary dune]

type stevenjs

[nimble cradle]

@vague leaf

[solemn fjord]

give up gents, they're gone, its all gone go touch grass

[haughty cairn]

So my early access payment is gone? I played alpha one when it was super buggy and figured I’d come back when they ironed it out…. And now I ended up paying 150 for like 25 hrs of play

[strong nest]

Servers are still up tho

[zinc mauve]

So many influencers and streamers/content creators were paid shills for this game and knew what was coming. Peon, Dustywhy, Esfand, etc. These days you don't need to promote via a magazine or TV, just pay influencers (of any size and reputation) to push your game. Remember the faces and names of those who lied to you about AoC, and shoved their referral links in your face while defending all the red flags.

[meager lichen]

is there still no official announcements? and isnt that abit wierd?

[sour totem]

“No I’m right you’re wrong. I’m right you’re wrong, and here’s why. But also maybe you’re right because there’s been people impersonating him.” Ty, exactly the level of competency I expect from the world.

[storm atlas]

Call your CC company and run a chargeback. Use terms like 'Fraud', 'Failure to Deliver', 'Consumer regulations', etc. They gave me my money back to the credit card in 2 minutes, and finalized the dispute.

[zinc lotus]

not a PI account is sight

[spice cedar]

There's been a hostile takeover and the entire team has been laid off - why would it be be weird that there's no communication? Who is left to communicate? The people in charge now probably are barely aware thid Discord exists.

[eternal delta]

Was ashes dying all a nightmare? Or is it true…?

[opaque wraith]

this is not accurate. stop spreading miss info. He was in huge debt and took out a ton of loans. Could not pay loans back and lost company

[vale wave]

I'm no expert in corporate things, but I don't believe private companies have to list all of that.

[cyan socket]

Jesus, you guys are still going on about this? Let it go. You are out a few bucks in most cases and had time to play. These devs are out of their livelyhood. And quit with the "they knew this was coming" BS. The only person who may have known this was coming was Steven.

[rain hare]

Not sure of California, but in Virginia to have a corporation, you must have 3 board members.

[glossy niche]

Are you sure he is still CM ?

[steady saddle]

A CM of what community buddy?

[unreal heath]

Board seats can be generated and or triggered by certain things, like lawsuits, financial hardship, ect, and they can be created very quickly. Likely the board that was pushing him out, was just generated recently after the Dec 25th filing.

[midnight blade]

he is fired

[hexed ingot]

good way to get your steam account banned

[lost jay]

just bought this game, but seems so empty

[harsh mesa]

Refund Lago, game is dead now

[last merlin]

Yw

[winter mountain]

see you in 30 minutes friendo.

[supple sinew]

I have something very important to share

[errant garnet]

im still playing, yall come back and have fun on Shol!

[floral hemlock]

reminder to stay away from all the sellout streamers who shilled this too

[broken tulip]

Is game dead

[analog elm]

downloading the game now boys!!! which server you all recommend... bought this on kickstarter years ago and finally have a chance to login

[azure oar]

Rug pull

[verbal sable]

any bets on how long the AOC discord stays up?

[strong garnet]

💯

[rose pagoda]

any updates?

[coral igloo]

Too bad they tried to do EVERYTHING at once. Instead of using it for content releases later. FR tho is <2 months the shortest steam rugpull?

[sonic torrent]

So basically Intrepid needed more funds, could not get loan unless board was formed, board then looked at company finances, board comes up with different plan, Steven says no, they say yes, Steven quits, everyone either quit or fired. This is were we are at yes?

[tired belfry]

yarp...

[warped meteor]

In the state of california is doesnt matter if you are a private company, you still have to file legal documents like WHOS ON THE BOARD YOU CAN SEE THIS ONLINE RIGHT NOW WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE STILL SUCKING STEVEN OFF. Steven put 10 liens against intrepid, didnt pay his debts, knew for months this was coming, protected himself, and screwed the steam buyers intentionally. "the board" are the new owners, the people he owed the debts to. He knew, and he had yall sit in a ptr queue for a fake bug skin. LOL.They wanted him to stop burning money, poorly managed but at the end of the day steven said this was fully funded by him like a month ago and released to steam knowing what was coming.

[eternal hemlock]

That’s bait

[oblique violet]

NGL EPITOME looking good lol man im a sucker but it looks good anyone here a backer?

[timber pulsar]

dude this sucked big time, but it is what it is i guess. so i'll just thank yall for the time we spent in game (even though i was mostly solo). i hope yall the best in your search for that next gaming adventure.

[dawn ledge]

Are you gonna pay his salary?

[shy plaza]

He doesn’t owe you shit 🤣

[vague heron]

Favoritism letting people RMT plus with mods in on it W game

[naive thistle]

Kickstarter folks reach out to xsolla for a refund. They havent denied me yet for a 2021 purchase . Its only been escalated

[gray parrot]

This guy has been crying for Roshen off cooldown all morning. Pathetic and entitled.

[golden sky]

If you do a bank chargeback and bought it on Steam, Steam will ban your whole account, don't do it

[strong bramble]

@mighty tinsel @uncut pilot loser purple names, still going to dick ride ashes? 😂

[coarse topaz]

@clever sedge please add me to friends, i have some stuff i really really need to show you that isnt ready to be public yet. thanks

[honest heron]

Anyone play ESO lately?
Haven't played in a couple years, worth getting back into?

[haughty willow]

So are we going to get any official word from someone who still works at intrepid, to let us know whats happening or have they all just gone rogue

[charred gazelle]

So, will Ashes just close the servers and the shop...or what's the speculation there? Is it actually time to uninstall the game?

[austere sapphire]

we dont care about them its crazy you want us to feel bad for them there still living there lifes they got money

[spice torrent]

Depends how you feel about subclassing but I think it's fun again (even tho I hate subclasses)

[ripe bolt]

It's lame, you better off playing albion online I guess or testing these new old-school looking MMO's if you're that kind of a person.
TESO screams - gimme money, and that's bad

[dapper hare]

Star citizen next?💀

[slim vector]

Have there been any updates that explain what actually happened?

[timid forge]

Meanwhile some of us are using our messages for import

[lusty flame]

is the game done? or is someone else gonna make it

[viral falcon]

I mean after all the information, review bimbing (rightfully so) and just the bad mismanagement as in no one besides Steven given obscure messages even though he could legally talk about the open public knowledge i would say it’s safe to uninstall and move on.

Even if a big IF Steven took back the company and the OG devs came back the names been tarnished and broken that it won’t come back and that’s a huge cope to think they are coming back.

Even if this Karen took the game to some Asian developer company the names been so tarnished it isn’t coming back. I would say uninstall and move on

[sudden locust]

Unless there will be an annoucement out, I wanna keep assuming that there will be a wipe and the new team will start working on this project. Am I delusional or is that a possibility still?

[pearl plinth]

Hey guys, I really enjoyed watching streamers play the game. Just bought the game and want to support this brave company, which skin from the store looks best in game on a ranger?

[feral sigil]

So, AOC is already over, and what about the refund?!?! Oh yeah, I forgot, the game was released on Steam (it says in the contract if the game is considered released = Steam = refund impossible?!?!) This seems like a scam

[acoustic harness]

It's ironic that now that Ashes is totally weakened and wounded, the people who so desperately wanted Ashes to fail are coming to kick Ashes while it's down, but when Ashes was showing small signs of progress, those same people didn't even dare to say anything. That's what I guess happens when hyenas see a wounded animal; they come out of their den.

[vital fog]

no official announcement yet, no one know for sure what will happens from here on

[rugged oracle]

Goddamn I wish I could clown react you

[waxen flint]

ask steam for a refund and post this. someone else post ------------Intrepid, the company that created this game had to notify their company 60 days before dissolution via the WARN act that they did not have the funds to keep the game going. Intrepid will be officially dead as of February 2nd, 2026. This product was launched on Steam at a point in time where the WARN act notifications would have to have been implemented at Intrepid.

In order to circumvent the WARN act, Steven, the owner of the product, is deflecting governance to a non-existent board, pushing out the WARN act notifications to an official date of today, which would be fraudulent.

Intrepid scammed all players by launching this game on Steam to attempt to improve company liquidity. Steam, like the multiple purchasers of this product, was scammed. Please initiate the refund for this product.

[tall pumice]

did you guys all get your beetle mount skin?

[shy warren]

#1467727992619798702

[mystic apex]

you guys are so funny still waiting on this lol after 10 years this game came out on broken on Steam just to rug-pull and scam & you still hoping that they will lunch the game lol

[hasty abyss]

I liked the game

[polar eagle]

I mean anything can happen, would be wild to throw away 10ish years of work, but I'm not getting my hopes up for anything.

[tulip gale]

I might go back to Eve Online

[somber quail]

YUGE case of Stockholm syndrome, at this point.

[steep belfry]

launch*

[jaunty crown]

Games ded. Where we droppin boiz?

[cobalt depot]

Anyone that wants a war game, mmo, might check Foxhole, the new DLC with airplanes is coming day 9

[full nova]

i know a few of us were kicking around Epitome yesterday

[wintry badger]

@half pilot Why is there no information about what happens next?

[peak temple]

Can Tencent Games not just come in clutch, like they did with Path of Exile ?!

[lapis lynx]

Any main games people are transitioning to? Saw a few mentions;
ArcheAge private,
ESO,
Project Gorgon?
Runescape,
FFXIV etc..

Any other worth trying?

[crystal shale]

She no longer works there.

[unreal otter]

,1 2 3 4 5 6 7

[tender urchin]

its crazy that Quinfall lasted longer than AoC

[cosmic trail]

I’m just gonna go back to star citizen and watch more people cry about caravan equivalents

• I can’t react lol but @worthy geyser 👍 I have plenty of screenshots if you wanna dm me lol, there should be a free fly in a few weeks to try it out

[worthy geyser]

is star citizen any good?

[slender magnet]

Star Citizen is great

[lost barn]

no steven touched that 2

[hollow quiver]

My people, there is nobody working for the company anymore, who’s going to make the announcement

[unkempt latch]

I just wanted to play an awesome necromancer class in an MMO

I said awesome since ESO, GW2 and all other current MMO necromancers don't scratch that itch.

[trail root]

so when ashes of creation 2?

[placid gazelle]

Aion2

[elfin flint]

Star Citizen could have some pretty big changes happen this year. Crating maybe coming in the next monthy or 2. Games still buggy but it's getting better.

[robust copper]

ESO are going through all their classes and reworking them all, so you may just get that when they do necro, though it's like the 6th class to be done. @unkempt latch

[drifting tundra]

So… about them beetle mounts??? Are they still coming or what?

[frozen dagger]

I say we all hop on roblox

[fading vale]

Any updates today? Not seeing anything anywhere.

[livid jay]

But am I getting my beetle though?

[zenith linden]

I got mine

[old sentinel]

I went back to ESO after this for a bit but only being able to have 6 skills slotted and being stuck in action combat hurt me

[shrewd edge]

inconvenience. not incontinence.

[runic silo]

Has there even been an official announcement or did everyone go poof and the majority find out once the servers are down.

[jolly girder]

Is it shutting down in 40 mins?

[chilly tangle]

Nobody wants to show their face and give us explanations about how everything is going. It's a shame they should all be persecuted and hopefully imprisoned

[hard nimbus]

Are server still up? And a big YouTuber just released a video saying Steven was gay and had a husband ? And his husband was the board? What? Is this true?

[proper ice]

What game out there has the closest combat style?

[faint garnet]

bwhahahahhaha

[fringe ore]

Good ol Pump and Dump

[glad mesa]

STEVEN CUCKED YOU AND THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY WITH HIS SHORT YET FAT CHODE.. ITS TIME TO LUIGI STEVEN

[little pulsar]

welp back to AA private server then

[pliant prism]

Who cares? This has absolutely NO bearing on anything about the game or what is happening right now with the game.

[hearty shore]

(•_•)
<) )> “I refuse to be part of it.” - Sassy Steven
/ \

[chilly cobalt]

🍭

[lament scroll]

Ill just continue to play until the servers off. I enjoyed the game and have no interest in any other mmos atm. So guess ill go down with the ship when it finally goes down

[merry hemlock]

Hey now, hey now, the game is over, they come, they come, to take your money, and they did winnnnn

[fiery ermine]

yes it is, big world event going on rn also

[silver flower]

Any word yet ?

[lilac copper]

,,/,,

[smoky shuttle]

I hear they’re giving steam refunds. If anyone goes that route on Shol, and doesn’t mind helping someone who is drinking the copium, would love to trade you before the refund! Please dm me!

[valid dawn]

Game gets bought by china

[unborn yacht]

i love how people wanna blame streamers for saying the game has potential as if 98% of the people who bought the game had a different opinion. Someone getting paid to play isn't going to have insider knowledge of the company's financials... also i highly doubt this started as a cash grab considering the cost that went into it. some questionable things in the past month or so? certainly.

[odd geyser]

Ha I just started star citizen because of what happened here, now instead of running crates in a feudal fantasy I run them in space

[plain ingot]

Are servers still up?

[woven panther]

Ya, 80% of team is all coming back, steven is being immortalized in game as a ridable mount.

[velvet flint]

tbf, SC did have a glow up with the recent VR support

[narrow pond]

For those asking, servers are up.

[formal lichen]

I thought it was quite funny xD

[spice cedar]

Anyone want to make fresh characters on Lotharia?

[neon parcel]

servers are up and marketplace is starting to heat up, sold 30g of stuff in last 24 hours

[weary willow]

FACEPUNCH PLEASE BUY THE FILES

[dark basin]

This new Intrepid owner, Karen involved in multiple suspicious activity, and her scammer team will not do any official statement, forget about it, rug pull was real and we need to deal with it. I blame Steven for being a liar all this time, it would be real different if he was truthtful with community about Intrepid's financial situation.

[wary cave]

There's a brand new KS MMO up for backing now that is basically AoC 2.0!! Go back now! Called Epitome. They promised what happened here won't happen.

[fluid flicker]

80% is coming back??? So it was all just one person and the company course corrected it self?? Yes thank you God (the Jewish one)

[silent storm]

@vague leaf back to selling magic juice

[delicate ivy]

i would be up in like 1-2 hrs. i want to try cleric 😄

[main silo]

Im just surprised this discord even still exists

##iwashere##

[drowsy spear]

Steam are in the middle of their own investigation - they're doing an investigation to determine if Intrepid Studios breached their Steamwork Early Access Developer Contract, because if that has been breached then Steam will be able to mass refund all owners who have a Steam copy of the game (this will happen automatically) and they will then pursue Intrepid for that cost and whatever other damages they feel they're entitled to.

[mortal cobalt]

There was no rug to pull. Company run out of money, Steven brought in a board of investors, told no-one to avoid a mass exodus. 100% his fault, incompetence if nothing else, but malice? Eh don't attribute to malice what can easily be explained by idiocy. Scrapping the game to get it to unreal5 was the actual killing blow, and it was 100% Steven

[dire nova]

This looks like a slow shutdown.
The servers and Discord are still up because they’re automated or prepaid, not because development is continuing.
The silence suggests there’s no real plan or leadership, or that legal issues are blocking communication.
If there were a rescue or buyer, we’d already have a statement.
Most likely outcome: servers stay up briefly, then a shutdown or legal announcement.

[quasi willow]

the steam release was a rug pull. There is no way that they forced the steam release for any reason other than to get as much money as they could before nuking the company

[raw pike]

there was no game before ue5. They only did it to make it seem like they had to redo alot of systems. But that was the actual starting point of the whole game.

[calm whale]

ESO isn't a bad game for someone looking for something more casual. It's more like a stroll in a park, where albion is a sprint.

[river grail]

Hey guys it’s over maybe we should move on
Reply to Oregon:
you do realize that if the game sold 1 million copies they would only have enough money to pay their employees for one year?
So yeah only selling 32,000 copies was the nail in the coffin

[long patrol]

@wintry arch Do we have a good bye announcement? I need closure... I keep having the same dream on how the devs stole the code and finished the game. it was called Verra

[broken tulip]

Its not over until a statement releases, if they dont figure out how to fix this they will never a player base which makes this already expensive game worthless.

[proven lynx]

There are plenty of people on this Discord who played the game before the UE5 conversion

[drifting prawn]

@vague leaf you are lier and trash. I hope steam do investigate and refund everyone

[tidal scarab]

I paid $250 to get an alpha key because Steven said they had enough testers and were going to stop selling keys. Then they reopened selling keys at a discounted price because why? Because they lied about funding and how many testers they needed. If this were the end of the story, then fine. But the recent release on steam was clearly a money grab and possibly a way to shed off liability from Kickstarter. There is no excuse to release on steam and take more people's money if they knew the current state of their finances. This is when this became a situation of mismanagement to malice and a rug pull.

[vale smelt]

I wish people who talk trash in discord would learn how to spell.

[wanton canyon]

If you all haven’t heard there is a full lay off happening by end of day today.

[lethal granite]

The people who owns Intrepid Studios now is owned by a Swedish company, a Swedish scam company, I had a run in with them trying to sell me a fatty acid test on the subway, the salesperson was super freaking creepy. Holy moly this is the strangest thing ever. I'ma call these mofos tomorrow. They own Bode Pro, that Karen person runs Bode Pro.

[main summit]

true, they are still figuring out how to rip everything apart to get the most money out of the studio and the game (assets, ue5 tools etc.) When they are done they probably will make a announcement.

[void tendon]

There is no way to get a class action lawsuit for the AOC Scam?

[formal oar]

We need an official statement today from whoever is currently in charge.
Right now, the community is completely in the dark and this project wouldn’t even exist without its players and supporters.

If the game is truly over, then fine. But it needs to be said clearly, so that everyone who was emotionally invested can finally move on.

We can’t be left relying on speculation while the studio stays silent. Keeping your community in the dark is more damaging than any bad news could be.

This isn’t “copium.” I’m not asking for false hope. I’m asking for truth. Because emotions don’t respond to logic… they respond to closure.

[warped meteor]

Steven being the type to pay people to play in his guild explains all the arsehole eaters in here. Bunch of paid off clowns defending him, professional dck suckers. I love how bros like," im a billionaire", and then offers him 100$ a week lol.

[rough plover]

Thank god i was dreaming, i had a bad dream, that they closed intrepid steven resigned and that everyone got fired.
Just logged in , phew close one felt real

[torn tapir]

Why this discord still exist? Why are servers are still up? Shut it down already

[naive brook]

If you are "emotionally invested" in an alpha test of a game, you should reconsider your life choices mate

[gaunt birch]

Except, he's not a CM anymore :/

[candid pewter]

There may be nobody left to shut things down

[foggy bridge]

I WANT MY 45 Bucks back !

[spice thicket]

45? Cutie

[restive gulch]

Im not saying whats happening is right and honestly we don't really know whats going to happen. But Id say if you spent 40$ on steam on a Alpha game and you put in 40 Hours or more into the game you got your monies worth. Some games release and story or what every is only 30-60 hours and you pay more then 40$. The fact that everyone is acting like children and cursing, posting disgusting memes is just sad and shows how far gone people really are, grow the fuck up. Yes this sucks move on I got my monies worth out of this game, and if the game is done then so be it im happy with the fun I had with my friends and the time I invested in the game.

[dreamy tangle]

Elon Musk gonna buy intrepid

[obtuse hull]

NOBODY LEFT TO SHUT THINGS DOWN, ASHES IS ETERNAL!

[gaunt raft]

there is Karen 😜

[rose pelican]

I mean I thought this game would never get off the ground, I didn't commit until Steam! Haha brilliantly played, I got my 40$ worth though. I kind of wish I cheated, exploited, RMT'd, bugged, duped however...

[wind widget]

as a CM? is he even working at Intrepid?

[cerulean ravine]

To everyone that keeps pinging people with staff roles, realize this, they just suddenly lost their jobs and don't have time to worry about others right now and especially not some random they don't know.

[wanton cedar]

In the month you log in, and no server reset...Mobs stuck in walls, bots following the same paths like marching,...

[pliant sphinx]

Hello? Is this thing on?

[swift pewter]

Unfortunately that's not going to happen, a lot of people don't believe anything coming out of @vague leaf mouth. The new owners wont say a word either. It would be a nice change if hostile take overs where made accountable. The servers are paid through April. Game is currently still up and running login codes are still working. Bots are still working lol nothing has really changed .........

[tawny kiln]

Soooo do we even play now?

[sick narwhal]

AMEN well said. Gaming community has fallen so far I had a TON OF FUN. Pray things can be saved we shall see never say never if anyone in the world could find a way to come back from oblivion it would be Steven. the hate toward this guy for pouring a decade into this game is unreal and unfounded. If he was going to scam and take the money he would have done it when Alpha first released and he pocketed MILLIONS, not wait a year and a half to watch the funds evaporate. At the end of the day we are all looking for a solid game to play so despite it all hold firm there is STILL A CHANCE this game sees the light of day it just may take more time now....

[timber pulsar]

Unfortunately, if legal shenanigans are involved, it's entirely possible that nobody can make any sort of official statement
Superfuse, a much, much smaller game, had some issues and it took 2 or 3 years to finally get an official statement about the game being dead

[proven smelt]

Now is a good time to cheat. No one to stop you

[red epoch]

Bro, he's probably without a job right now, what do you mean has a CM?

[young remnant]

Vaknar AND MK are on atm

[cinder tendon]

Man, this is one hell of a silent shitshow huh...

[barren rain]

probably just to put a bullet in this

[cobalt nebula]

Hopefully that's a blunt and not a cig on Vaknars status message

[shy warren]

#1467727992619798702

[fair forge]

Now is the time for all of you to do your homework, go and learn something new.
Play with your kids, take your wife somewhere.
Do something else. see ya in a couple of months in AOC. Or not 🙂

[dusty jewel]

This is the Central Intelligentsia of the Oddity Development Team. 您的 Internet 浏览器历史记录和活动引起了我们的注意。 YOU HAVE ELAPSED THE MAXIMUM GOONER GACHA GAME TIME. 因此，您的个人资料中的 11115 ( -11115 Social Credits) 个社会积分将打折。 DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN! 不要再这样做! If you do not hesitate, more Social Credits ( -11115 Social Credits )will be subtracted from your profile, resulting in the subtraction of ration supplies. (由人民供应部重新分配 CCP) You'll also be sent into a re-education camp in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Zone. 如果您毫不犹豫，更多的社会信用将从您的个人资料中打折，从而导致口粮供应减少。 您还将被送到新疆维吾尔自治区的再教育营。

[fossil fractal]

Why are you all shouting, insulting, and whining? The servers are still online. If you love the game so much, why aren't you playing it? I think the best way to show the developers and owners that it makes sense to continue the game is to increase player numbers. Show them it's worth keeping.

[terse kindle]

idk if anyone watch KIRAtv video about AoC but something is happening be honest so much question!

[timid forge]

@winter mountain the link you said that about below is literally a link to a discussion thread in this discord lol....

[maiden willow]

80085

[snow nest]

saddest part was I had stopped playing alpha as I was happy with direction of game and was going to neck beard it come beta. Really disappointing to see as I've basically been doing short term game sprints the last two years waiting to really play AoC as my main form of gaming along with the wife for years to come. Alas she said EQ1 graphics were too bad hahah, back to the drawing board.

[winter mountain]

Anyone that clicks that deserves to get hacked.

[oblique gorge]

Lol all these people posting how happy they are to play. Y'all are the reason companies keep doing this. Because you keep giving them free money. They literally rug pull on steam and y'all are posting how grateful you are. SHAMEFUL! Shoulda at least turned on PVP for the last week but can't event do that. They packed up and LAUGHED TO THE BANK. Looks like the intrepid shills are finally logging in again lol. "Servers are up", "it's an alpha". It's a CASH GRAB SCAM LOL for anyone who bought on steam. They did zero updates since steam released. What were the 200 people even doing?

[pseudo token]

Since the announcements, there has been no further official communication from Steven, Margaret, or the community managers which is normal in a legal context. The situation is frozen and entirely in the hands of the lawyers.
For who ask about update -

[strong bramble]

its a thread in this discord that doesnt have slowmode you fucking moron LOL

[oak hatch]

Ashes to ashes

[spark crown]

Dust to dust

[modest gull]

Zug to Zug

[tacit spade]

GET A JOB DORK

[mental trout]

Fade to black

[south torrent]

Why is no one playing the game while servers are still up and running? This makes no sense. There has been no official statement that servers are going to be shut down. You are all assuming that based on one statement about a resignation and mass lay offs. That is silly!! Go play the game while you still can.

[lucid sorrel]

Well said

[tawny remnant]

I'm out trapping and killing the few bots that are still farming

[sudden oasis]

Best case scenario, gets delayed 3 years to wait for lawsuits

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[light bay]

Rust community wants a word with you

@green sphinx Is it? How many times have the server been wiped since last october? 😛

[half panther]

ok

[unborn rose]

I am confused why is @half pilot still active as Intrepid Studios, when she said on Linkedin that she does not work for them anymore??

[sleek comet]

Nobody wants to play a dumpster fire, regardless of what the board does, lawsuits etc. It is over.

[green sphinx]

Rust and ashes 2 big diff things tho

[median wigeon]

Game canceled on steam chart guys, it's over

[frozen atlas]

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[median garden]

The studio is shut down. Everyone is gone and final checks aren't being processed. Plenty of people aren't interested in sinking time into a game that is effectively on its dying breaths

[austere knoll]

no?

[azure steeple]

Man WoW just keeps winning and they don't have to lift a finger

[drowsy talon]

naive

[sharp patio]

Is there any chance to save the game? Should we make a petition or something? 😄

[fickle sail]

🫃

[rugged ridge]

go make a kickstarter

[chilly cobalt]

😈

[low nimbus]

A petition will save it for sure.

[odd wing]

still does not feel real that they rug pulled us like this

[craggy cloud]

this is just a speed bump.....right??? lol

[wooden furnace]

only hope for the game is it getting bought out by a diffent studio

[tame atlas]

Im afraid it got our oil pan

[slender thistle]

Have they unplugged the servers yet?

Edit: lol can still buy on Steam XD

[hexed fossil]

"I think, as a player, there are 2 main aspects of Ashes that has some people excited.

First, What we are making... basically, risk vs reward, not everyone is a winner, a world that develops around the player, no p2w, no quality of life items, massive open world and emphasis on social/community driven systems.

Second, Who we are... we aren’t governed by greedy “corporate overlords”. I’m funding the project, so no investors or a board to answer to, no publishers to appease, we speak WITH (not to) our community, and we actually listen to feedback and value/respect our players."

[eager salmon]

the vision for this game is dead, if it does continue development it will continue under underpaid forigen labor and will become heavily monetized and pay to win such like many eastern MMOs. unfortunate as it is, its time to move on

[ashen gorge]

Nope, game is still being sold on steam, and 3,500 people still playing it.

[vale wave]

'Tis but a flesh-wound.

[thorn marten]

Technically what they have is released. They just did not make much

[ionic venture]

It isnt. 😂 stop parroting others people's statements. No official statement has been made

[hollow dew]

the game just got updated to cancelled on steam charts

[unkempt birch]

Then why are you still here in the discord? Do you all picture your selves as some kind of shining beacon save the rest of us from big bad Steven. Such a strange life to lead.

[random tartan]

Screenshot pls

[azure hull]

is steam charts official from steam or can anyone edit it like wikipedia

[molten lintel]

Random question, if enough people used MS Paint to draw male genitalia on Steven Shariff's forehead, then uploaded it across the web to a bunch of different websites, theoretically, if enough of these pictures were uploaded, would it pop up as the image for Steven if his name were googled?

[smoky parrot]

You can't be a real person with a working brain.

[cedar pecan]

I don't believe any company will be interested in buying this game, tbh. Not because it's bad, but because it has so many haters and its reputation is really low at this point.

[silent storm]

game still being sold with no further announcements is kinda crazy. still milking every last dollar. goodluck to anyone working on this landing a job in this industry again. reputation nuked @half pilot @vague leaf

[viscid elk]

Serious question did we get the February cash shop update?

[odd moss]

I’m just finding out about it being cancelled - can someone fill me in/link me the info?
When are servers shutting down?

[timber basalt]

MORTAL ONLINE 2 new content is coming out and now a entire continent goint out all new areas,moobs,dungeons,poi,hot spot,hid spots that are to be discover by you or me come fiend out and check the team deserve some love (that mean players and money)so come have fun

[copper bear]

the game just got updated to cancelled on steam chart GG YALL NOW GO ON ARCHERAGE

[balmy folio]

It didn’t. Keep spreading lies instead of googling yourself.

[chrome steppe]

thats just bait. just dont respond

[slow osprey]

Yo is there any other mmorpg with sandpark non pay to win? 😭

[empty pumice]

Lets be honest, the goverment fucked this shit up. They caused insane inflation over the last decade, why else would board members want to move it abroad. Because paying people in the us is just insane pricey. The difference in cost is 70% lesser in other countries.

[outer crypt]

only play that makes any sens is Epic buying it for the server tech to merge in to unreal engine back end server services, and throw the art in to assets

[chrome sail]

This is amazing, all you guys fell for the most elaborate April's Fools day prank ever.

[dire granite]

#1467727992619798702

[merry ridge]

🤣

[hearty shore]

Maybe those devs can get something actually done and working...Considering they fail they get beat..

[upper hare]

no private servers on sight?

[minor scroll]

Damage Control , convincing people it’s still viable

[austere bough]

Came to steam just so they didn't have to refund anybody. Steven probably paid employees with investor money then pocketed all the rest. Put that dude in prison, he likes butt stuff so he will be right at home.

[dusky viper]

I would flag up on most of you

[loud gyro]

Looking on Steamdb it clearly does say that the game got cancelled. Says Sunday midnight, but I'm not sure if that's showing for my timezone

[somber quail]

Black Desert Online is a great way to kill time until you've found a new home.

[tawny harness]

No, its not xd

[rancid olive]

Insert Stephen "this game is fully funded quote"

[nocturne imp]

Albion

[balmy rain]

yeah lets grind for a year until we can reach actual pvp content and call it kill time xd

[slow moat]

If Intreprid had instead spend their money to just buy Archeage, remove P2W, and reskin it with 2026 visuals, where would we be now?

[rich prism]

it would be dead just like ashes because intrepid was a shit studio

[dim iris]

Guys I just bought the game on steam, I had no idea about the issues wowowow

[leaden epoch]

Is the servers still up

[devout oriole]

Probably still scamed

[warped solar]

Its not Steve's fault you guys are all so dumb to buy in on an alpha

[eager agate]

So did steven and john get a divorce or what was .. "unethical" exactly? I mean steven was invovled in a pyramid scheme why would they care about ethics?

[jagged dirge]

Yet here you are

[ember willow]

Idk man even that shit barely worked

[wanton glacier]

@half pilot when some info

[wild stump]

that dude got fired days ago, you will not receive any response.

[torn sphinx]

Tbh the dude got laid off, I wouldnt feel obligated to do work if I lost my job, would you?

[spare moat]

right, no attempt has been made

[jolly girder]

Well it’s 11am PST are servers down?

[fallow stirrup]

they need to get a divorce so he can transfer his assets to John and be safe.

Hes personally liable for some of the debts. He will be offloading everything and bankrupting himself, then living off the money he squirreled away in protected businesses and accounts

[burnt flame]

Y'all need jesus in your life.

[hard lagoon]

None of the staff got paid today either. They really don't give a shit about any of us lol. My Give-A-Fuckometer refills the same day I get paid. If I don't get paid, I can't afford to refill it. So I assume it's the same for them

[fiery ermine]

I just sit in a reclaimer stacking boxes all night, super relaxing

[torpid hare]

sounds like star citizen

[torn tapir]

Should i go full albion? Seems like there is nothing else just albion, why is this discord still existing? And why are servers still up? They should shut it down for good already, they don’t have money brother they are heavy in debt company is investigated

[void tendon]

now he is not xD

[ornate locust]

the new owners prob continue the game with a.i dev and in other country

[tough arrow]

Lol imagine how traumatised the players are that left New World to Join ashes only to learn that it was a shit show and is getting canned too 🫠🫠

[silent sparrow]

i spent 500€ on this and played like 2 hours 🙂

[subtle shard]

KEKW

[lost jewel]

Nah, guys
Its just a cancelation of early access
Didnt you guys read what you were buying in? These is a development process, its complicated.
Cancellations and company control issues are expected.
Take a break, and return back when game is in beta.
Let the man cook!😂😂😂

(Everything above is /s, of course)

[calm hamlet]

RMT bot

[crimson burrow]

after being gone for like a whole year, this is like walking into a house fire

[floral peak]

Bro he’s unemployed and not getting his last paycheck leave him alone

[late pagoda]

anyone want to join me on WoW Classic Hardcore? Skullrock server. I'll start a new toon and level with ya?

[bleak raptor]

So can Narc come back now?

[magic wolf]

I think some people need to look up what a warn act is because it's 60 days notice, but the employees likely cannot say anything legally nor do they likely care to answer any of us. They also need to search up what the CA laws are for firing and whatnot because it's possibly different than your state or country

[nimble ferry]

Cant get in game, launcher error

[weak pebble]

stpid 🙂 its alpha and u spent 500 euros.. lol

[steady mural]

Has anything been made official about the servers yet. Have not logged on since I heard the news and don’t want to waste my time if it’s all eventually getting shut down

[unborn yacht]

no info

[crisp anvil]

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_X8iiRwrgo (There's a space on h_ttps cause it doesnt allow YT links ig) check it out in case you didn't

[wooden mica]

Margaret replied in a comment on Facebook she doesnt know anything about servers going of or staying so i guess were never going to get anything here. Cheers boys was a fun ride

[tepid mesa]

Archeage Classic is 🔥 i play for long time. Its populated af. Player housing. Crate running on ships and caravans. Open pvp. Extra labor pts so u never run out, original rolled back version of game before they introduced trash dailies/infusions for progression.

Ashes is dissolved company as of feb 2nd, the equity firm that stole it from steven will probably re-brand under new name and add some pay2win as they are moving it to ASIA. Which is why steven could not support that decision.

[heady oar]

I started playing wow checking out the new housing is cool and cozy since ashes went nuts

[tawdry kiln]

WoW is still kicking, just in time for Midnight

[frozen vault]

archeage classic or archRage? I've heard conflicting opinions on which is better lol

[merry hemlock]

Stole my ass. Steven SOLD shares, lost majority control, and Karen took control of the company. Steven basically sold off Intrepid. Karen got rid of everyone. Basically, she cleaned house, and let's hope the game continues. Doubt it, though.

[molten vale]

i wish i played wow more, but i stuck to L2 😄

[timber pulsar]

imagine investing in something and feeling scammed when the investment fails (steam purchasers excluded, ya'll are due a refund, maybe even the last rounds of $100 alpha keys too)

I spent a lot on this game, and it sucks that I lost it, but the bigger loss is the the game and what could have been. I've spent more on steam games that I still have in my backlog and will never get to anyway

to the people who want and/or keep asking for official information
if legal shit is involved, and it probably is, it could take a long time for any official information to be released. just look at Superfuse for an example. just assume the game is dead

[shy warren]

#1467727992619798702

[still reef]

Wow

[wanton cedar]

They would most likely need a rollback to before the big news. People just went crazy corrupting, devs throwing gold and gear around...

[foggy bridge]

waited on the timer to reply to this one lol.... I make over six figures I drive a 430i BMW coupe married to a hot redhead retired Soldier and own my 4th house... and ya i want my fkn 45 bucks back because my money i put into gaming id limited thats almost 3 months of a sub of a game lol and only just over 2 hours of gameplay steam lock out.. PUT the game on steam then cancel it ... real shady corrupt feeling.

[pale gyro]

No server restarts for today?