alpha-two-general

[fallen fulcrum]

After 8 years i will also be leaving this discord at some point today

[pallid garden]

game ded yus

[left wagon]

Do they give refunds on Steam? I have 10 hours of playtime.

[lucid helm]

Welp... With all its problems, I still had fun while it lasted. See yall in the next game that will probably fail.

[balmy fog]

You think the ethical dilemma was that the board wanted to lower the 100+ artists to get QA+moderation into the double digits? 😂 Now it's all goin down regardless.

A board being in place for 6 months unadvertised is crazy, since the no board/etc was a reason a lot of people bought in.

In regards to the Steven going dark, people posted possible addresses. I wouldn't blame him if he went right into hiding (innocent or not)

[static fulcrum]

insane rug pull on steam. glad i got the game for free lmao

[wild hemlock]

I wanna try it but peak online players is 20 for the last month...

[finite wyvern]

doubt but put in a request anyway

[zealous bridge]

So what.. We're dead now or what?

[kind dew]

Wakfu is better 😉

[topaz lynx]

The slow mode on the general channel is 6 hours. LMAO

[shadow lantern]

ESO ON TOP

[bronze tree]

lol

[shut stream]

ESO better start doin the right thing lmao

[quick arrow]

True

[strong hemlock]

Conan Exiles, I guess.

[stuck shard]

What is the point of slow mode chat in deadgame discord ?

[copper bear]

ArcheRage guys same sht of ashe

[wanton fox]

Where Winds Meet TRI IT

[amber iris]

SOME1 TALK ARCHRAGE FOR FRES SERVER 🙂

[grand kite]

Nice SCAM game !!!!!!!!!

[rotund knoll]

Steven and Intrepid Staff left the discord.
Only moderators left

• 30 minute talk timer

[crisp belfry]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lime gate]

hahaha you deluded fools - a lot of us TOLD YOU SO

[echo chasm]

Go and pat yourself on the back and blow yourself............

[vale needle]

Any official news about the shut down?

[coral siren]

What? I wasn't particularly huffing copium, I bought it for $50 on steam release and played it for 260 hours. It was pretty fun, unfortunate it died. Running around happy while saying you are happy it died is actually braindead

[upbeat token]

pleeeeaseeee dont i love this game ☹️

[trail juniper]

I'm going back to digging a hole in minecraft

[final valley]

What about our refund?

[wanton grove]

!stream

[placid rampart]

Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1771009200:F>! The stream will kick off in 3 days 10 hours 26 minutes.

Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation

[zenith solar]

Yo that's crazy, so soon after steam launch

[kind copper]

There is no “board” with everything getting leaked including the creditors and ownerships of the company, literally shows Steven and Karen as the only “board” members

[shy warren]

Might as well rename the genre to World of Warcraft because it is and has been the only game that matters

[slow osprey]

idk what to play now coz I was playing AOC all the time

[balmy ledge]

IS dead?

[halcyon relic]

Imagine if this was the biggest prank ever done by a gaming studio. Also, you could all use "Where is the PVP" in the Feedback channel as a new General chat to get around the 30m timer. 🤣

[gray stone]

I hope you can get yours through STeam if you brought through STeam

[silent gulch]

how long have you played the game? how do you think you wil lget a refund from an insolvent company?

[steady helm]

Guys where to write to ask for the refund ?

[wicked warren]

Meh, I bought it on Steam I'll get my refund

[north basalt]

is he going to jail or what?

[stoic pasture]

its February 1st not April 1st right ?

[drowsy thistle]

Bought 2 years ago so 350 gone

[pearl stratus]

I would like my 250$ back, I did not play at all as well : )

[peak temple]

Bro that was the move to keep the money and not getting sued.
Now it is a "Released" title and not a crowd funding project any longer.

[plush kestrel]

Is this serious or is just something automated from before all this started ?

[dawn idol]

Anyway I had lot of fun its bit sad how it ended but it is what it is.

[solemn solar]

Can I get refund from my baned account for hacking

[unreal heath]

Can we all get a flying mount now haha

[unique spruce]

Anyone any idea where to go next? 😔

[lyric whale]

It's unfortunate, but the game is going to stay online for maybe a couple weeks, continually bleed dry of any players and eventually an announcement from some rando will be made that the servers are being taken down permanently. The board will hoard the IP, spend the next 1-2 years trying to market and sell it and maybe one day it will return from the ashes, but not likely.

[real tree]

just the old mmo-s

[placid rampart]

Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1771009200:F>! The stream will kick off in 3 days 10 hours 26 minutes.

Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation

[noble kernel]

lol

[crude pulsar]

I wonder if the livestream will still happen and which corporate goul we will see

[plush thicket]

NW lmao

[brave berry]

Hahaha and where are the words that Steven said that if he closed the game he would return all the money even if it was out of his pocket??

[steady trail]

so funny hearing all the cope in the voice channel atm 😂

[river niche]

#doubt

[gleaming jackal]

She was laid off too… no one to call to

[somber relic]

and notice how he worded it. he's not closing the game, he's stepping down and it's up to the board to close the game.

[pine vale]

yeah dawg thats not gonna happen

[small kelp]

Back to uo outlands 🫡
Been a pleasure gents.

[ionic venture]

Where the original post?

[spring moon]

well gg's to anyone that made a bag selling stuff to the gold sellers ❤️

[bronze walrus]

what i can see happen is game will be taken down for a month or so ( could also be left up with little to no updates) while outsourced devs get a handle on things and then some form of P2W will be introduced so the new people running things can make some money back from any idiot that still wants to play

[valid grotto]

I hope devs have made copies of the game / client / server / db, tools and will share the code for émulation

Why ? Cause we have excellent devs in the community who could run it

[outer ore]

Ggs everyone. Leta be humans at the end of the day.
It was a bumpy ride but it was fun sometimes.

[latent tree]

At this point, we should focus on protecting ourselves rights and requesting refunds from Steam.cuz studio is shutting down now no one is going to pay our money back

[silk charm]

spam refunds and negative reviews steamers

[sudden locust]

any other mmo you guys are planning on moving to?

[tulip mica]

Omg... why are you hoping for that ? LMAO Jesus me

[brittle dome]

my Steam Refund Request is just declined due to TWO WEEKS passed (my game time was 25 minutes xd).

They should opensource it

[crisp solstice]

intrepid are shameless 😂 how could they shut down my favourite game

[harsh escarp]

back to FFXI it is

[hoary laurel]

guess i'll just have more time for wild terra 2

[ashen flame]

kiterally just downloaded it

[south cradle]

Says Philippines in the outsource info, and Asians love micropayments lol

[steel seal]

All players, we can get together, organize, get a class action suit together, and give new owners a chance to deliver, or give us the code/assets to finish it ourselves 😄 tryna think outside the box, but there's always options, we choose how we respond to each situation and challenge. We are all the creditors here...

[winter onyx]

I personally got my moneys worth.
Still sad to see

[full matrix]

I think I speak for us all when I say:

😔

[fair canopy]

this is complete horse shit I agree with PhoebusG

[warped willow]

Toxic commentors...

A community of us and just look at the amount of hate post here which are Toxic, Attacking, Hating without any thought to the people who made what you have possible.

Assumption on why, what happen, who fault is soul destroying to those developers, testers, people had a job 24hrs ago. Just stop to think for second about them not you ...

Do you still have work tomorrow? Has you RL just been turned upside down? Can you pay the bills this week, month?

World is a 💩 pool of people wanting their piece and lack genuine care for others. Dont be one of those...

[spice cedar]

I'm convinced that anyone who unironically uses the words "cope" or "copium" has never been touched by a woman.

[modest rain]

Out of all kickstarter failures, this one was actually starting to look like a playable game and i genuinely thought it was going to relese. Welp.

[hybrid pendant]

Someone better organized than I need to make a disc server for a lawsuit. Only a matter of time til this server gets the axe

[woven tundra]

Really looking forward to the dev vid on 13th

[mortal cobalt]

It is really weird that no message is posted in discord

[buoyant copper]

Where is my ficking money

[devout salmon]

Unfortunatly Steam is not refunding the game, the say they cant do that cause I have been playing for more then 2 hours. well it is what it is. we tried, Team failed the game, community and devs did their best.

[fierce violet]

🤣

[rotund lynx]

Project Gorgon anyone?

[dire nova]

@rotund lynx me

[delicate osprey]

How we all holding up 💔

[jaunty stirrup]

this is so funny, the ship is on fire and sinking, and the robot is like "remember it's taco tuesday tomorrow :)"

[signal peak]

i cant lpg on anymore the game still onlibe ?

[fleet spruce]

People should keep trying to get a steam refund. If they see a sudden influx they are likely to change their stance

[fickle sail]

🫃

[red iron]

You all owe narc an apology

[gray stone]

I'm doing a bit okay now. You?

[celest basin]

i wonder if narc will come back

[potent saffron]

kinda like -> Sting - What Could Have Been

[plucky venture]

Don't think anyone is doing good today. My genuine thanks go out to all members of the team, the devs, the mods, everyone who tried to create something amazing. Thanks for all of your efforts ❤️

[timid gazelle]

Why would they not make an announcement if the game is donezo anyways? I don’t understand why they aren’t saying anything officially.

[keen wharf]

i hope for a refund for all this shiet

[opal prairie]

You all talk only about devs loosing there jobs what about are little gold farmers what they will do with out you giving them money:(

[merry ridge]

Somone hack Steven Discord account and write it XD

[delicate osprey]

I feel you friends, truly 🙁

[edgy birch]

do you know anything about an announcement or whats next

[queen eagle]

@vague leaf <@&542059693779058748>

AoC died before GTA6? 😔

Also, can a mod pop in the voice chat and please unmute all the people saying racist comments while playing Kanye West song HH?
(They don't understand the things I say on Twitter)

[placid veldt]

They will go back to WoW! 😛

[vague sluice]

I would have never guessed than Pantheon Rise of the Fallen would outlive Ashes of Creation...

[delicate osprey]

Sadly none of us do currently 🙁

[gray stone]

no can do. We're unable to do anything about that

[raven totem]

Hey Mods? Just know you're doing the best you can, and no one blames you for the shitshow ❤️

[vast shore]

w glaze

[shut gale]

All these people telling others they didn't enjoy their time and should bitch about the purchase are the saddest creatures i have ever seen

[coral reef]

So if Steven was the board, how does he oust himself?

Also fuck this slow mode.

Everyone gets your steam refunds spamming.

[delicate osprey]

❤️ its much appreciated

[torn osprey]

So in the end, did (Polar) win? bahahahaa.

[timber pulsar]

Some people spent 50$ two weeks ago to have the game shut down. Ya were pissed fatass

[blazing raptor]

Believe in Steve ❤️

[weak burrow]

I gotta be honest with yall, I was completely wrong about the fate of this game.

I kept saying Steven being too lax with Polar would kill the game. That the laxness with his friends cheating would make this DoA.

And now I have egg on my face and must apologize to all those I have wronged.

The game exploded before yall had a chance to burn it down.

[warm iron]

to the <@&542059693779058748> who enabled slowmode. guys its done, you cant save anything. just disable it...

[restive hatch]

fuck that bitch steven

[slow fable]

I'm incredibly disheartened by the news. I honestly believed in the game since the Kickstarter, I knew it was a risk but I had started to see good progress.

[open isle]

Steven's ideas not sustainable in current world economy thats the point

[gray stone]

No can do. None of us have authority for that

[molten vale]

last years progrese was fast and game looked good

[lean cloak]

After repeatedly hearing they weren’t going to release on steam ever last year, only for them to release it, in it’s current state in early access… yah we all knew this was coming

[foggy wave]

the mods are volunteers to my knowledge. no company pays discord mods to moderate...they have zero power in this situation so stop asking them for things lol

[stone cedar]

If you all haven’t, go to the Reddit AoC there was a post about a year ago with a video showing all the legal issues ashes had and the dude showed receipts and everyone was calling the dude a lier and now look at him a year later and everything he said was real dam

[hushed kestrel]

But you probably have enough gold in game to give me so I can get rose thorn set and enjoy it while I can. I believe in you!

[peak yew]

Well that was a complete waste of money then

[empty birch]

most mmo's going to steam do indeed die

[cobalt rampart]

whats that

[green axle]

No we don't. Narc chose to emotionally lose it when he did. He wasn't a prophet. He wasn't a visionary. He simply lost it and moved on. No one can prove otherwise. No one can know how complex projects will end up. There are probabilities. Anyone betting based purely on the odds would suggest Intrepid would be more likely to fail than succeed. That's simply what the data suggests. And, that seems to be what happened.

[gray stone]

not a Intrepid GM, so I can't help you out with that

[ocean tangle]

Is the game going down or whats the point of all this? Im confused servers are still up?

[primal ivy]

I completely agree

[carmine wing]

Has there been an official statement yet?

[desert surge]

No

[gray stone]

Last official statements are from the pinned.

[odd apex]

AoC die before NewWorld...

[obsidian ether]

New World going to make a comeback

[lofty raptor]

It’s nothing unusual , all over the world, many companies are laying off employees. Studios and firms are getting smaller, or even shutting down completely over the past few years.
A lot has changed over the past few years — not only in the gaming industry, but in service jobs in general, like customer support, developers, and tech roles overall. Many positions are being reduced, outsourced, or replaced by automation, and companies are restructuring more than ever.
Sadly.. 🙁

[spice stump]

PRAISE THE SUNNNN

[blazing escarp]

when do they close the servers then?

[fluid goblet]

so for any news like if the project will shutdown or no we have to wait until february 13th?

[delicate osprey]

that is currently unknown

[acoustic fiber]

I paid for Steven's vision, not some board of director's vision...

[cyan arrow]

i can't believe world of warcraft has outlived yet another game claiming to be the "wow killer" 😂

[manic cargo]

Bet my left tiddy the server sare down by the end of the week. DC in a few days.

[wooden mica]

Will i still get scarab mount from stresstest? Loooooool

[foggy magnet]

Release game -> have 0 content -> cook 120310230120 systems that will never get implemented -> board complains about 0 progress -> Resign.

W development 💀

[desert kindle]

new world is staying till 2027 aoc failed before it ended

[dusk compass]

£25, Final offer @velvet cipher

[desert steppe]

This is why I believe in real devs like the ones behind Artifact.

[velvet flint]

I remember selling a bitcoin around 3k to buy into kickstarter 😅
Now not only that could be worth 80k right now; but its gone completely 🤣

[torn moth]

I don't consider WoW killer to be a term thats good tho. WoW is on a path to destruction of its own... Retail isn't on a good road imo

[serene galleon]

wow killer? who even claimed that? cringe as boy

[viral lance]

need new world wipe ASAP

[cloud zealot]

New World died so AoC could go on EA steam and scam us live...wait...

[fierce solstice]

guys im making an mmo, send me money 🙂

[sharp phoenix]

So cringe game was so dogshit

[autumn raft]

will it have non-pvp , pvp combat? 😆

[somber quail]

I'll just keep afk fishing in black desert while building my castle in Pax Dei in hopes it catches on. Might have to give Eldegarde a buy now, too.

[wary anchor]

me: 🤡

[prime flame]

How's Pax Dei?

[manic hinge]

Pax Dead

[tight crest]

itt will have sport fishing from ArcheAge

[stone hemlock]

I want my money back

[vagrant sail]

Oh, the poor developers couldn't imagine that developing a game for 100 years wouldn't please people. They wanted to extract money from players forever, but this cruel world offended them. Let's pity them all

[balmy bolt]

Back to UO Outlands it is

[neon quartz]

is it still script central or did they actually sort that 🙂 not played in a year or so

[glacial zenith]

Any monsters & memories guilds recruiting?

[feral night]

What about the money for skins I spent? Is that refundable?

[shrewd plaza]

If it is going to end like this, open source the game, let the community continue the project. Do like Epic Games with Paragon.

[native crystal]

Pretty sure the money is gone guys.

[merry steppe]

cant wait for launch 🙂

[whole leaf]

People say AoC was a scam.
Well, I did not have so much fun indulging in scam products in a while. Enjoyed every bit of it.
Totally worth every bit spent on it imho.

I am actually looking forward into similar products in the future, if they would be as much enjoyable

It is a pleasure meeting lot of you nice people online. It makes me happy knowing good people still a majority of people I meet.

For all the toxics out there, it was a pleasure competing against and with you.

Best regards to community members

Worst regards to large hegemon guilds, botters and rmt'ers, we were not ready to handle you.

See you all around!

[naive brook]

And people said Star Citizen is a scam 😂

[kindred sequoia]

There's always time

[dire granite]

The studio should approve refunds for those who have been for more than 2 hours and more than 14 days.

[mint basin]

anyone tryna run a +15 priory of the sacred flame eu dm me

[fair blade]

Drink some juice, it cures everything 😉

[topaz lynx]

6 hours of slowmode is insane. Just shutdown the discord server at this point

[teal cosmos]

What about the guy name TheJuice? where will he go?

[plucky ermine]

"Is this board of directors in the room with us right now?"

[fallen patio]

They can smell us

[noble bobcat]

it appears that steam refund request are denied ...

[gritty hazel]

Damn mods are worse than Steven.

[floral prism]

Where can I submit a bug report? Server is gone soon, think it’s a bug.

[granite bay]

I think theres a channel for bugs. Just place it in the list of other bugs which havent been resolved

[tidal fulcrum]

runescape is very much alive. guild wars 1-2 are alive. albion is alive. its not because of steam its because ppl cant understand how a project works. if a game develops in the background ppl will cry about why they dont realese it (Cyberpunk) and when they give it to ppl to test it out (they literally said its an alpha and if you think you cant handle the alpha phase dont buy it yet and yet still ppl bought it) they cry again and make a blind judgment about every single aspect of the game before they even know whats going on in gaming development section. its hard. i m not defending this specific game i m talking about every other games out there.

[cunning vale]

Its a joke, inst it?

[zenith solar]

Yall should go blackthorn daoc beta. Much better pvp.

[abstract meadow]

This is so sad.

[oak nest]

@vague leaf So trickster aint happening ?

[tepid mesa]

I asked GROK just now who the board members are….

Who are the board members of intrepid games ashes of creation
Thoughts >
Steven Sharif is the sole board member (listed as Director) of Intrepid Studios, Inc., the developer of Ashes of Creation, according to the company's most recent public filing with the California Secretary of State.
bizprofile.net
bizprofile.net
bizprofile.net
Key Details from Official Filings:
• Entity: Intrepid Studios, Inc. (Entity
#3788290), incorporated May 20, 2015, in San Diego, CA. bizprofile.net
bizprofile.net
• Latest Statement of Information (filed November 13, 2024; data current as of mid-2025):
• Director:

[pallid current]

The real reason Steven did not agree with "The Board" was new archetype name for the Tank.🤣

[formal nebula]

I'm playing Albion rn its not bad.

[calm socket]

did Stevens account get hacked?

[main pelican]

Aoc fanboys in shambles

[austere knoll]

albion is best game not dead and pvp

[torn terrace]

so basically his shit about the "board" members decision was basically just him ? lmao

[neat holly]

I put $500 into this game around 7 years ago because I genuinely believed in it. At the time, that was a meaningful amount of money for me. As recently as a month ago, we were told things were in a good place and that there was funding to finish the game, so this comes as a complete fuckover.

Today, I wouldn’t even notice this amount disappearing from my account, but supporting games this way is over for me from now on lol.

[rancid adder]

Hey Macarena, Macarena, Macarena

[wispy vine]

I bet the game won't die, die. The board will hire a new team and when the game comes back, it will be full of adds, cash shop, item shop, buff shop, free membership, premium membership, vip membership, p2w for life

[lethal granite]

This is so fishy. Margaret's crocodile tears to industry people on linkedin before even informing us, super fishy. Her statement that everyone got fired. Then Steven coming out and saying it was the board, the board is basically him and another guy. I wonder how much Margaret got, her crocodile tears are so obvious. Keep repeating that she's heartbroken, got a 15 month old to provide for, that she needs a job asap. She's 100% playing the victim. Lashing out at people who questions what happened. This is 100% a play. It was in the making. The Steam EA was a planned last push to get some money in and a planned split. We all got duped.

[paper crane]

same here. Last game I supported waa Firefall lmao

[peak temple]

Congrtas mate, you're just fcking stupid, that's all you said :D:D:D:D:D

[formal lichen]

whats happening I am out of the loop

[rose summit]

can we refund ?

[modest wedge]

It's just wiping so we can get out beetle mount

[delicate osprey]

#alpha-two-general message basically this

[wanton tusk]

Honestly sounds like a classic situation of investors fucking up a company that is based on what the public wants... I'll see all you refugees at Old School RuneScape shortly, a game where developers actually work with the fans from start to finish.

[ripe field]

Tried, got hit with can't refund past 2 hours even though I played like a total of 2-3h actual gameplay

[twin latch]

plot twist of the story, unprofessional fails like this just push ppl more to the few studios who didnt fail 20+y ago - and then ppl wonder why mmo scene is deadge, because companys are miserable and fail, gg

[steel seal]

Ultima Online the one that never dies bro 🙂 ❤️ if you like RP and deep mechanics, look up Requiem shard, been around decades.

[torpid burrow]

Morning all! I had this crazy dream that this game was rug pulled cause of some weird board takeover of the game. Anyway, anyone selling rare oak?

[median wigeon]

go play dofus then !

[civic jolt]

who ever got control of the discord atm seems to be trying to get the discord to die via not being able to do conversation due to long slowmodes :p

Shame though game had great potential just didnt make it long enough to reach it sadly probaly be one of the last MMO attempt cming out from NA tbh atleast in the triple A kinda level

[sterile surge]

fuck the BOARD, thsi is fukin bs. I stand with @vague leaf

[topaz gull]

it's "the board". sure.

[shrewd oriole]

Does anyone know any hitmen for hire?

[static lichen]

fuck the board

[sand yoke]

Can they remove the cooldown

[ivory surge]

Someone make a private server and we gg

[oak scroll]

Why are there still mods here lmao

can u turn off slow mode @delicate osprey

[mortal cobalt]

They also put a six hour slowdown on nearly every channel. Welp this is it boys, shop closed

[south cradle]

Mods, was it also Intrepid that removed the other channels, I’m guessing?

[delicate osprey]

at this point we just have red names 🤷

[delicate osprey]

we dont have permissions to remove channels as far as I know of

[prime lantern]

need someone to slowmode the children 😛

[north basalt]

the board is just steven 🤣

[dawn sphinx]

I'm still hoping for the best! Gotta think glass half full

[dawn depot]

hi

[brave berry]

Glass is empty

[fossil field]

glass fell off the table and smashed lmao

[pallid garden]

the glass is broken and i'm eatin the shards

[wet galleon]

There is no glass, never has been

[wild breach]

So like are we thinking class action or wat

[crisp anvil]

IDC IF THEY'RE CLOSING SHOP, I STILL WANT MY MOUNT FROM PTR FIESTA

[bitter latch]

I remain hopeful, I really think that Ashes will join up with Archage and New World and make "Ashes of New World Recreation Unchained"

[queen eagle]

@vague leaf
Does anybody know what the next early access kicksarter MMO i should blindly invest into?
I just got my paycheck this friday
And I'm kinda desperate right now and need something like a waiting room to kill time before GTA 6 🙏 ❤️

[midnight otter]

🤣

[wild bough]

so no refunds?

[nova jasper]

Give me my 800 dollars back you scamming piece of s

[fair canopy]

It all sounds super sus and fraudulent. Mostly Steven though.

[vale spoke]

Well I had fun in The Day Before, that doesn't make it less of a scam lmao

[timid gazelle]

Margaret just works there; what are you on lol

[cloud dune]

I buy accounts with level 25+ full for 10 dollars

[dreamy ferry]

Стивен пидар выйди на связь гандон

[sly oak]

So now all we’re left with is… the ashes of creation

[frail lantern]

😂 😂 😂

[odd bane]

Control of Intrepid Studios appears to have shifted to its Board of Directors, which is legally tied to Steven Sharif as the sole registered director, but operationally influenced by Jason Caramanis, trustee of the Ya-Ya Legacy Trust—the largest known external shareholder with a 9.7% stake.

Sharif claims he lost control and resigned "in protest" on January 31, 2026, stating the board initiated actions he could not ethically support, including mass layoffs and WARN Act notices.

Despite publicly claiming the studio was “100% self-funded,” legal filings confirm the Ya-Ya Legacy Trust converted debt into equity in 2019 and later sued Intrepid for access to financial records.

The trust, managed by Caramanis, holds significant leverage, and speculation suggests it may now effectively control the company’s direction, especially given Sharif’s departure and the studio’s financial collapse. 

While no formal announcement confirms a new owner, the evidence points to a de facto takeover by the Ya-Ya Legacy Trust through its financial and legal influence.

[midnight bear]

LOL dupe and cry more

[vital palm]

..

[mild dagger]

[buoyant lichen]

any news about last situation?

[maiden timber]

Big update in march bro

[tender pond]

So steven left ? 😮

[solar epoch]

all u whales should put ur money together and buy the rights

[raven dune]

whos steven? lol

[potent nova]

I'm really heartbroken to hear this. I am truly sorry, and I hope that you get to feeling better. These woke investors are ruining the gaming world.

[cyan quail]

"woke" lmao youre a fucking idiot

[crisp jungle]

HAHAHA

[drowsy thistle]

Back to Dota shame I was really hoping finally after a decade something new will come out.

[spice cedar]

"woke" 🤡

[fallow stirrup]

Please keep me informed of your latest startup MMO scam.

If AoC has shown me anything, its that i have a kink for mmo scams

[tropic swift]

If the Board is the problem, why did Steven have a board in the first place?
If it was because of the need for money, why even start creating a game if you need "Board Money" to create it?
Are these concepts impossibly difficult to comprehend that Steven or other people in charge didn't see it coming?

[twilit schooner]

Servers still up?

[plain tide]

Lol the problem was it just started getting somewhere after 10 years. Just too long of an investment.

[fallow owl]

This shit is funny.

[loud gyro]

Inb4 the 'board' were pushing him to make the game appeal to a wider audience because the player numbers were clearly dropping and he refused to split from his perfect vision of a PvP game

[vagrant garden]

"Systemic Non-Payment of Obligations: Intrepid Studios exhibits a consistent pattern of "stretching payables" to the point of litigation. The company is currently or has recently been a defendant in multiple lawsuits alleging non-payment of critical services, including cloud infrastructure (Sada Systems, ~$850,000), art outsourcing (Streamline Media, ~$241,500), and even employee health insurance premiums (Aetna, ~$81,000). This behavior is a classic lagging indicator of insolvency, suggesting the company lacks the working capital to meet short-term obligations.

Regulatory Suspensions: The company’s corporate standing in California has been compromised repeatedly. Most notably, Intrepid Studios suffered a suspension by the California Franchise Tax Board (FTB) in 2024 and 2025, a punitive measure taken by the state only after prolonged failure to file tax returns or pay owed taxes. This suspension legally incapacitated the company for seven months, preventing it from transacting business or defending itself in court, and was only lifted days prior to the Sada Systems lawsuit filing.

The "Self-Funded" Mirage: CEO Steven Sharif has historically maintained that the project is "fully funded" by his personal wealth, purportedly insulating the studio from external investor pressure. However, court filings reveal the existence of external investors—specifically the Ya-Ya Legacy Trust—who hold an equity stake of approximately 9.7% and have resorted to litigation to force transparency regarding the company's books and financial records."

[native orchid]

GBK my goat! ❤️
You should focus on Outlands now bro

[thick gorge]

If this community truly loves this game, now is the time to show it and say it clearly.
Feedback, presence, and engagement matter. Silence looks like indifference.
This game deserves better than being quietly thrown away.
If we care about its future, we need to make that visible, together.

[gusty schooner]

2026 kicking off to a good start 🤣

[fallen cave]

Shall we not go silently into the night?

Say less

[leaden wave]

bought thi sgame decembir 31st to play with a bud of mne and itsalready crashign out go figure 🙁

[dry osprey]

You are too late for that bud

[viral minnow]

like 10 years late

[coarse hull]

Been a crash 10 years in the making

[wooden crypt]

this shit feel like chronicles of elyria all over again

[drowsy talon]

Can we sue them?)

[earnest kindle]

Aye, no lie

[sleek juniper]

Idk how yall thought that a game that is supposed to have over 150k players to survive will end up doing well with 20k players =)). The investors saw that people were not interested and decided to pull the plug.

[coral reef]

all refund now

[oak swallow]

Trying but it gets declined

[wary iron]

There Is no board, its a rug pull, he Is Just lying again

[spring fjord]

Steven's statement is BS!! He wouldn't give up control to a board. And he wouldn't resign from his baby

[lyric bay]

Maybe Amazon can buy it off him XD

[random lance]

im waiting for that class action, we were promised a fully funded game, access to alpha 3 both betas and a month of full release that we will never see, we wont even see the end of alpha 2, so yeah, we can

[umbral moth]

TLDR;

Money dried up after long dev cycles and months of over promising and under delivering a product that was in bad shape.

Board wanted to put in some cost cutting measures to continue dev cycle, Steven doesn't want to ruin his "vision" (aka lose any more money) so he pulls the plug and books it to the Bahamas. Classic FTX moves.

[lime gate]

well more fool you and people like you then

[slate egret]

MMOs are insanely expensive, especially if developed in the western world (devs are paid a lot more money here). At no point was the money we pledged ever enough for major MMO development. That's why Star Citizen still takes in money through events and selling ships. Also, most of the early money in development is basically dropped in a firepit unless all engine building and systems implementation goes smoothly (never happens for MMOs). Even Albion Online (less intense product) was bought out years ago

[mystic apex]

Im going on kickstart please fund me so I can buy the game and continue the project

[vernal jetty]

Insane rugpull thanks Steve

[boreal ledge]

Steve exit scam

[civic aspen]

is it possible to get refund when i bought on their website?

[swift geode]

Game is dead 👌

[reef cliff]

Keep in mind people still support Steven and are wishing him well xD the cult of Steven is real. Employees aren't even getting paid they just got kicked out on the street. GG ez.

[distant dove]

Is Chrono Odyssey now the Last Hope of mmorpg????

[crystal sable]

I wonder if there is even a way to save this mess at all. What will happen to ashes now?

[vagrant sail]

just burn his house

[dusky jackal]

riot mmorpg

[whole juniper]

It's always when something great is at hand, money becomes the root of all evil once again 😮‍💨

[versed spire]

🤡

[primal kestrel]

riot mmorpg xD

[fallow heart]

Can someone link me the message please

[final void]

more like the dev team is incompetent and the board thought it would be more beneficial to just get rid of them all and outsource to the phillipines who would get more work done for cheaper, steven had a hissy fit and cost the jobs of the rest of his employees

[molten vale]

we be dead by the time riot mmo comes out:D

[strong hemlock]

At best, development will be out-sourced to cheap oceanic developers.
Most likely, it will just be shut down.

[low pelican]

Perfect opportunity to play Mortal Online 2! Expansion incoming soon

[queen topaz]

Archerage :wick

[dire nova]

mortal online 2 mehhh subscription monthly

[errant steeple]

Very reasonable take. But honestly, I wouldn't say the creditors-turned-investors care about progress of the project. It's the progress of making them more money that they care about.

[dense kelp]

Ashes F Creation 😭

[languid ivy]

a good topic always end up in some "poop" XD just hanging out in VC

[plush kestrel]

This is what I think happened could probably get 10x the size of the team for the cost of his current one

[indigo belfry]

👍

[barren drift]

fc , gonna delete this game now

[ebon badge]

👍🏻

[astral marsh]

I love quinfall

[main pelican]

@finite pine hahahahahahahahahahahahahdead game hahahahahahahahaha lasted as long as supervive hahahahahaahabbaah

[sly path]

Always look on the bright side of life... I'll be having 300gb free

[marsh willow]

well time to go back to mortal online 2

[pallid pollen]

I feel sorry for you

[mild crag]

xD

[snow palm]

All 300 people

[crude burrow]

apparently it's bad... so wait for the reviews

[bold cove]

LMAOOOOO EVERYONE WHO RMT'd THEN GOT BANNED, THEN REMADE CHAR ON DIF ACCOUNT RIGHT BEFORE GAME SHUT DOWN

LOOKING AT YOU -> TANKO - POLAR

[vestal mural]

Does anyone know when Alpha Three is?

[lapis flower]

ewwww ....

[compact maple]

@vague leaf hi bro how are you ?

[regal hazel]

i played the play test and it was pretty good honestly, will likely play when it releases

[solemn widget]

Is Steam allowing refunds for people who have 100+hrs in already?

[glossy niche]

Poor guy. 😭

[normal imp]

Nah my buddy got denied

[fleet spruce]

If enough people raise a fuss im sure they will. Especially as we were promised additional product at launch whoch we wont get now. Steams probabaly fully aware yet

[hoary breach]

@solemn widget no, i tried it 😄 rejected

[spring moon]

guys why are all you still keeping this discord a live? pls move on theres no way you keep talking 24/7 in a deads mans game

[prime adder]

next step, class action. LOL 30 min slow mode is too funny

[torpid burrow]

Cause of 30mins cooldown

WTT AoC gold for TBC Anniversary server gold

I’m glad the people who RMT got screwed over

This is a crazy way to combat botting but it did work

[clear lake]

Doesn’t seem real.

[austere owl]

So long Ashes thanks for all the fish

[jolly raptor]

bruh we were litteraly waiting for you to tell us to leave

[pale rock]

ashes isnt dead but it seems steven sharifs vision of what he wanted ashes to be is

[glacial swift]

IS THIS WHAT WINNING LOOKS LIKE?

[eager berry]

Charlie video Inc “the mmo situation is crazy”

[near cipher]

Well this is a kick in the dick now isn’t it.

[summer dew]

Ashes to ashes I guess lmao

[near atlas]

Make Ashes Great Again ............ I knew MAGA had some meaning

[cold carbon]

because class action lawsuit my man. Steven just pissed off thousands of people for what appears to be fraud and lies. He mentioned things about a board which wasn't supposed to exist. This is grounds for a lawsuit and other types of legal retributions which do not involve harassment or other crimes.

the point is the make the man's life a living hell and create a public record of "do not ever trust this guy ever again", not get your money back.

[outer sierra]

Technically until whoever took over intrepid changes it the website has a 2 month refund policy for the game and because it requires you to make an intrepid account in order to play the game anyways that policy would hold up

[covert shore]

It’s not that deep

[ashen flame]

this

[sour slate]

class action to get paid 2euros?

[rancid adder]

What is Mortal Online 2?

[prisma pollen]

Well y'all. It's been real.

[gusty brook]

Hey now... People in the us love to sue everything and everyone 😂

[soft cliff]

United Sues of America

[oblique cypress]

a cool MMO

[olive flax]

it's not about making money. it's about taking money

[wind widget]

Ma man, thank you for your info yesterday.

[heavy gale]

Just a thought i had , but potiental push from high ups to get game released , steven saying its not ready his openly said wasnt going to steam release , too much prssure pushed it release on steam , steven arguing with high ups because game is in no state to do so , hence he went quite , all attention went on that while rest of crew stramble to do work on game from top end preesure

Or could have been just a rag pull cash grab scammaz

Both line up pretty well with what happened

Domt understand why steven thpught quiting for protest was the anwser , you put millions of your own money into it , there just gonna say goodluck to you and thanks for the money

[sterile surge]

Welcome to the next single-player MMO. Have fun

[wintry badger]

Is the Ashe of Creation project really dead?

[undone yoke]

it was never alive to begin with

OOF 30M TIMER LMFAO

[smoky shuttle]

This

[worn viper]

You can't kill what is already dead..

[tender pond]

<@&519722995778977812> @here @sly path @half pilot

Phase 1: Create every design you can think of to encourage Chinese bots.

Phase 2: Make human players believe you’re building a PvP MMO.

Phase 3: Never do a single thing to prevent bots.

Phase 4: Never do a single thing to create a PvP MMO.

Phase 5: Give up.

It feels like more than 50% of the players were bots before Steven left, and now it’s going to be 80%+.

This game isn’t dead, because it was never really a game to begin with—just false hope sold for cheap.

I hope those responsible are forced to refund players and are sent to prison, because the state of the development has gone from “very low-IQ devs” to “scam.”

[cobalt flicker]

Honestly, feel sorry for my friend 2.5k backing. Honestly just isnt good enough.

[drowsy thistle]

We need all meat up in ashes and salute Steven. And end it.

[dusky mica]

no bro, it was a joke! everything is fine, you can go and play it

[tight crest]

50 dollar isnt that cheap

[proud mist]

If you read all the avail docs, reddits, etc.. it sounds clear the 'board' that formed in late 2024 to resolve the state of ca issues, that board decided to force the steam early access to pay off the 880k debt to prevent summary judgement which would force other liens to be executed.. not a rug pull or cash grab.. question is why didn't they have the 880k to pay the bill when they spend 800k a week?? Sadly that board then made other wild demands of steven

[tawdry comet]

feel sorry for your friends family who should have gotten something nice for that 2.5k

[tired wind]

Sooooo this wasn’t a nightmare huh?????

[faint flare]

some of us really liked the project, thats it. There isnt any similar game to this out there.

[frail lantern]

Noob aahahshhahsh

[torn osprey]

Anyone wana do a kick starter with me for a AoC2? All we need to do is promise a bunch of shit and its free cash.

[shy jasper]

This is why you dont give private equity firms ANY part of your passion projects

[terse spear]

🤣

[ocean tangle]

Bro im a 1500 backer of the game. Pm me if u want it

[atomic creek]

do some gym bro+1

[narrow reef]

The board that outside Steven is just himself. Fucking scam artist. Class action lawsuit time

[graceful spindle]

steven hijo la maracaaa

[pastel halo]

i sold my Star Citizen account for 100€ and bought with that money AoC 4 months before it released on Steam. Thought AoC has better chances to release as a solid game, compared to the other scam.....i'll stick out of gambling from now on lol.

[mint basin]

uh oh messages are being deleted now, ccp censorship in action

[ember kindle]

Aren't there tons of games like this out there? Crowd-funded, never finished, etc etc.

[echo spindle]

@graceful spindle 🇨🇱

[odd bane]

1. Secured Creditor ≠ Minority Shareholder

The Ya-Ya Legacy Trust isn’t just a shareholder—it’s a secured creditor with a UCC lien on Intrepid Studios’ assets. This means:

If the company defaults or collapses, the Trust has first claim on intellectual property (like Ashes of Creation), revenue, and other assets.

This gives them de facto control, even without majority ownership. 

2. Control Through Leverage, Not Voting Power

   In distressed companies, creditors often call the shots—especially if they hold loans convertible to equity or have liens.

   Steven Sharif may have been the sole board member, but if the studio was insolvent or dependent on Ya-Ya’s funding, the Trust could effectively block funding, force layoffs, or block bankruptcy filings.

   Courts often recognize that a creditor with a golden share or veto rights can exert “actual control” over key decisions (e.g., bankruptcy), even with <50% ownership.

3. Golden Share or Veto Rights?

Legal documents suggest Ya-Ya may have had special contractual rights (e.g., veto over major decisions). These aren’t voting rights per se, but contractual controls that can override normal governance.

[flint sage]

What happened? Does someone have some good info I can read about current situation with intrepid and ashes?

[hot oxide]

Yall just gave ur money so a gay couple could have a yacht.
The small hats always win lmaoooo

[noble condor]

Damn they legit put it on steam so the Chinese bots could buy thousands of copies and run off with the money lmao

[sweet wyvern]

What Board, as of December 30th 2025 he was the sole Board member?
How much you want to bet he wanted out, so he sold majority stake to a 3rd party investor, nuked the studio and left with a paycheck, while leaving "the Board" with the blame

[pseudo frost]

Watch on you tube - streamers gare giving informations

[queen eagle]

The real winners are the gold sellers. I'm gonna start selling my gold to cover my loss 🫃

[cerulean flicker]

steven and his team got fired apparently, but he says he pulled out
and no one knows if the project has any future at this point

It wasnt very competent anyways

[rocky hull]

I mean all ive gotten of info is yes the layoffs happened but theres no talking of aoc dissapearing . At most info thag theres not an exact quantity of how many people are gone on the layoffs that's as much as ive collected

[marble sand]

someone out there RMT'd money a day before this announcement btw

[river grail]

I can’t believe this is happening ashes of creation is my life what am I gonna do now that I can’t grind for a rosarium set I’m panicking I can’t breathe help me

[halcyon summit]

lol. Willling to sell my AOC account with th weeb samurai skin if anyone wants to play with it for the next while

[stiff seal]

Lmao

[frosty zenith]

No1 has a video on it, thats how i knew

[lucid galleon]

anyone ever played private server Dragons Dogma Online? Its free and has great combat + exploration. more of a themepark mmo tho

[junior atlas]

someone spent $1000 last Monday hahahaha and he could not even use it cause the market did not have enough mats lol

[gentle stratus]

Wildstar died so that AoC could shit itself

[south torrent]

TheoryForge read from the letter on his video and life stream it says any and all employees in any position are effectively laid off as of close of bussiness by February 02,2026. That is everyone and the doors will close. If the studios is shut down there is no one to run the servers. Stop trying to silver line the cloud it's OVER plain ans simple

[wooden mica]

Margaret apparently confirmed somewhere that the whole studio is laid off, gg boys

[stone leaf]

This but Archeage 😔

[wind skiff]

not muh kickstarter fund

[gloomy lodge]

Karen L Boreyko

[novel flume]

Even as someone who has invested 2.5k into the game and has every reason to believe in copium, I can say this is simply GG's folks.

[timber idol]

Someone create a Modern day Star Wars Galaxies

[tight fossil]

Steven assets are worth over eight million that's not counting intrepid that is worth about thirty million i don't see the servers being shut down one that launched in on steam second it opens them up for class action lawsuits because what was going on behind scenes with the share holder has been going on before the launch and it be considered fraud and scamming to do a launch collect all the money then all sudden shut everything down

[sand condor]

this

[dull thorn]

The good thing is classic wow cata is out baby so who gives a fk about thos game crashing down. 😂😂😂😂

[bold flame]

Nexus always was a shitty guild ngl but sure ggs

[terse halo]

2.5k USD??

[upper nexus]

are you actually trying to spout copium right now? jesus christ you're actually braindead.

[thick hemlock]

What board? Steven pulled the rug - The only individuals in the board of intrepid studios is Steven Sharif and John Moore.
They pulled the plug and went off with a huge cash grab. Dont believe me? Go check their Corporate filings in the california database for public knowledge

[mystic ocean]

how can we request a refund?

[patent jolt]

We start a GoFundMe to buy Ashes? 😄

[solemn fjord]

sue

[mental rover]

Bro all the lead devs are gone, no one will purchase the game without devs

[vagrant garden]

Steven isn't worth 8 mill.

"It is highly probable that SoCal Building Ventures was a primary engine of Steven Sharif’s liquidity, effectively subsidizing the development of Ashes of Creation. When this entity defaulted and its assets were seized/auctioned in 2022-2023, the flow of "personal wealth" into Intrepid Studios was severed. This necessitated the sudden and aggressive pivot toward monetization via the Apocalypse battle royale (earlier) and the expensive Steam Early Access launch (later) to replace the lost funding stream."

They've been broke for a while.

[fluid flicker]

you cant request a refund

[deft pewter]

They released it to steam to avoid refunding

[tired flower]

Karen is gonna own. She runs a successful MLM that only has a few dozen lawsuits for fraud. She will lead AoC to the promise land.

[runic girder]

tbh there should be class action lawsuit

[crystal sable]

On twitter on Margaret I saw and understood that everyone was laid off

[frosty heath]

This is happening far too often.

[lost jay]

so can we go back to gw2?

[brazen wraith]

Shareholders are the bane of game dev

[timid forge]

Man, just release the game files for hobby devs to pick up and private server at this point. Someone will polish it off. Lol

[cinder frigate]

is it not straight up fraud if they knew the game was gonna fold and still put it on steam for purchase and to prevent refunds?

[empty birch]

idk, lets get Gaben involved, maybe he'll pick it up

[dim crescent]

worst thing is discovering steven was dirty all along, unbanning RMTs and favoring guilds, its insane, the guy has always been a RAT

[nova dragon]

WIPE HYPE

[feral sable]

Okay where is our refund

[wispy skiff]

Yep this time a permanent one
P.S. @pine vale I know Karen, she the bitch that was demanding to speak to the manager over at intrepid

[pine vale]

Guys game is not going anywhere rofl, you dont even know Karen. there is no way she will be worse than Steven

[lost kestrel]

Is there anything official that its shutting down or are people just assuming because of the lay offs? Sorry I have a new born a bit out of the loop

[ornate needle]

"she" could even be steven in a wig!

[glacial mason]

@lone harness forget this game, i'd rather you bring wildstar back

[fickle sail]

🫃

[lone harness]

I'm worth 2.6 Billion, I will save the game

[sleek comet]

A "New" exec will focus on getting costs containment, doing enough to call it a 1.0 and getting out of dodge.

[near summit]

Is this game dead?

[vernal flax]

dont even worth a food stamp

[fierce violet]

how do you guys think sub-classing\multi-classing is going to work? 🤔

[mild crag]

WTB ZİNC COMMON BULK xD

[lone warren]

Do it. lol

[viral minnow]

guys is it too late to start playing AoC?

[rain quartz]

yes

[sly path]

@tender pond why did you tagged me

[dapper sierra]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃

[crisp belfry]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wary violet]

You'll have to wait and see what happens, technically there is a chance this could continue, but the board of investors would need to see what they can do with what they have left, and thats only if that was in their interest to do so OR another company/studio would have to take up the AoC files and assets and continue development

[spice cedar]

With the amount of RMT some guilds were doing surely they have enough money to buy and save the game..

[sage scarab]

TBC*

[quick arrow]

It cant be late while servers are up

[open sorrel]

can you get refund on steam?

[topaz lynx]

Nope

[lament zephyr]

And I thank God every day
For the game He sent my way
But I know the things He gives me, He can take away
And I play you every night
And that's a feeling I wanna get used to
But there's no man as terrified as the man who stands to lose it

Please stay
I want you, I need you, oh God
Don't take
These beautiful things that I've got

@plucky harness

[solar hearth]

hey guys just bought the game and played nonstop 4 hours so fun! any guilds ecruiting?

[torpid burrow]

There is no cooldown in the feedback channel fyi if we wanna start a mega thread there

Only hope for this game is that it gets picked up by a Korean studio that will quickly finish some of it and introduce wifu skins and cash shop

[clear tide]

So that means I'm getting my $80 back?

[teal moat]

Hello everyone. Wow. What a journey, what a ride, what a catastrophic series of financial events. First, thank you to everyone who believed this could be something. You saw a dream, we saw a dream, the board saw an Excel sheet, and Excel won. All employees have now been laid off yes, all of them, even that one guy who fixed the servers at 3am, including me emotionally. The company is officially shutting down. But before we go, let’s talk about the real MVP: the Steam release right before shutdown. Absolute cinema. Dropped the game, collected the bag, closed the lights. Legendary exit strategy. That extra cash? Not survival money, retirement speedrun. Was it unethical? Debatable. Was it iconic? Absolutely.

To our employees, you were heroes, you deserved better, LinkedIn awaits. To our players, you backed us, defended us, and wrote entire Reddit essays we read, ignored half, and screenshotted the funny ones. To the board, congratulations, you optimized us straight into non-existence. We dreamed big, coded hard, and coped harder, only to be defeated by budgets, burn rate, and “Quarterly Projections v7_FINAL_FINAL.xlsx.” Servers offline, Discord locked, website archived, memes eternal. Thank you for everything. Please uninstall responsibly.

— Steven
Former CEO | Current Job Seeker | “It Was A Learning Experience” Guy

[vagrant sail]

that means you got scammed

[mental ridge]

Karen boreyko will save us

[versed lotus]

So anyone know any good private servers?

[lapis flower]

,

[exotic dove]

Anyone who thinks the game is salvageable is beyond delusional. The bad press from Steven rug pulling will drive away anyone who was even slightly skeptical will stay miles away from the game. Like even if somehow development continues, the game is fucked now, it’s seen as a scam it’s over you morons pack it up

[solid atlas]

It's all just a play to work for the Rust developer after he buys New World xd

[winged tulip]

I just found out we got scammed... Good work team!

[tepid mesa]

ARCHEAGE CLASSIC is super fun. Its private server with thousands of ppl daily, a rolled back version to when there were no dailies or infusions, and just trade pack runs for progression, and lots of extra labor so u dont run out. Basically a fully fixed version. Ive play a lot on it.

[timber pulsar]

so is it closing? is it true?

[wild prairie]

Go bdo back i think so xd

[random lance]

so i fully believe that the game is dead, but you are dead wrong, the very existence of no mans sky proves if someone wants to salvage this game its possible, i just dont think anyone wants to.

[main crescent]

Wtf is going on?

[cedar grotto]

Are the servers down?

[shrewd egret]

I believe the current situation is that pretty much everyone is/will be fired. Idk if that means they make a whole new "Intrepid" with no ties/loyalty to Steven's ideals or if they scrap everything and sell game for parts.

[noble kernel]

tbh I'd prefer someone saving New World over AoC

[little sorrel]

if they rly care and steven used his own money he could just release code and community will build it

[waxen tapir]

He doesn't know

[rotund lynx]

I did Project Gorgon a while back. Glad to see they made it to release.

[mental trout]

Where It was published?

[rocky arch]

When I played the game for the first time when it released on steam it didn't take long to see that this is not an alpha or early access. This was a tech demo, because not a single game is so bareboned after 5 years of active development lol

[meager wave]

out of his ass

[timber lava]

LFM oak, need 1 tank and 2 dps for OAK. Server Pelune

[whole citrus]

so servers and everything shutdown due to finance?

[teal crag]

rofl

[trim condor]

Bring back APOC

[prime flame]

Ehh so what next?

[frigid fable]

Servers still live

[austere osprey]

Post how many one dollar cheeseburgers you gave to Steven.
150

[trail juniper]

minecraft 😮‍💨

[mortal cobalt]

Fighting the slowmode. Everything shuts down, unless we are lucky and some actual publisher/developer picks it up

[meager sky]

Mother Fukn Crook from the get GO ALL he did was hammer the Nail into a Dead Genre

[vapid condor]

ª

[slate egret]

Yup. The only thing that matters is money and the willingness to invest in the product. The MMO genre is near death with plenty of desperate players hoping for something new. If someone took New World or AoC and built up either IP, there would be a healthy following of players chasing after it. The only thing that realistically matters is if the product is finally good

[grizzled fable]

My sholeskipper friend gon dead? 🥺

[somber quail]

Black Desert Online for chat Pax Dei for player housing Eldegarde for arena

[smoky shuttle]

Steven is the new Norman Osborn

[somber relic]

If the "board" outsources it to another developer, it will be some asian slop studio that's going to infest it with p2w. Not sure if that's better than just letting it die.

[brittle steeple]

Yes, most likely the scenario, and that I don’t want, then I rather let it die.

[bronze walrus]

the p2w will be the first edition thats added so they can make as much money off it asap

[pseudo token]

If it ends up like Final Fantasy XIV, which went through the same problems but even worse, maybe we’ll get an ‘Ashes of Creation Reborn’ lol

[glass harness]

Make sure to refund

[austere flower]

Its f'ed if the senoir dev teem does not get hired back along with steven, there the one that got the game this fare, some cheep mob comming in to finnish will just frack it up

[proper tartan]

Hey guys I just got the game today! Which is the most pop server? Lets play together! Im so excited for this game

[sage mountain]

well, just got refund denied since my 480h are a slightly over the 2h limit

[granite snow]

Don't forget to message steam support on your way out. The likelihood of a full scale refund for everyone increases for everyone that opens a ticket.

E: Don't go for the automated refund system. Open a blanket ticket and explain your situation. You need a human to work the ticket, not an automated program.

[manic hazel]

Damn I wanted to be a gollywog character that only attacked black characters,

[brave berry]

the board: Steven and his husband

[gritty spindle]

So guys, I dont get it… is AoC almost over?

[copper cairn]

im at 726 but i tried anyways

[velvet dirge]

There are much better mmo's in testing right now. You just won't be playing them. Which is a good thing

[rocky hull]

I'm sorry I was speaking all blind to what I just knew since last night till I saw now The message so I proceed to reverse all I said of hope and say its all fucked

[acoustic idol]

So ladies and gentleman, what game we moving to now?

[south isle]

wow tbc for the third time.

[fossil field]

albion online is pretty bangin

[humble ferry]

🤡

[tawdry comet]

someoen needs to tell Elon to buy AoC

[mild plume]

Apogea seems pretty promising

[tired wind]

Where did they say that?

[rancid adder]

steven is my bf

[solid flame]

How?

[tight elm]

I bought the game through intrepid using PayPal before steam. Im going to try to get a refund based off: never receiving access to full game to use my monthly credit, premium currency never being delivered. Wish me luck

[frosty salmon]

Right bc the guy from Epstein island is gonna fix a vidya game

[lost jewel]

👋

[quasi rover]

Anyone know any promising Kickstarter games we can support?

[fast raptor]

welp 370 on kickstarter in the trash for me

[onyx sable]

Going to request to your credit card company or to Inteprid?

[fathom pawn]

I'm done with Kickstarter. Every game I've seen on there has failed.

[obtuse oracle]

I want to see the tryhard community coping with this one lol

[terse kindle]

we hope someone gonna buy this project,but hard to see bcs game is ve can say very close to be finished maybe 2 years away!There is only 2 games on radar which can be good this is RIOT mmo and GW 3

[robust copper]

Kickstarter is almost as bad as crypto at this point

[willow cairn]

verra by round of applause how are we feeling

[distant dove]

Karen will save AoC????

[rich cove]

if i knew a way to clap in reverse i would

[civic cloak]

sounds the same both ways

[noble condor]

I guess it’s time to try that hytale mmo game lmao

[terse halo]

Why is there only white people that work at intrepid?? 🤔🤔 No diversity?

[desert salmon]

bom dia meus scamados

[lucid pasture]

Hytale is not an mmo

[empty pumice]

Sooooo ashes dead?

[runic zodiac]

So uh, what's happening?

[sinful flame]

Ashes became its own ashes

[tender pond]

Steven scammed us, game is dead

[cerulean breach]

WHAT HAPPENED????

[cinder frigate]

Hi mods! please take off slow mode and let us post dank memes again so at least we can some bit of enjoyment by pissing on this games rotting corpse. thank you.

[pallid garden]

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. We stick Ed Bighead in the Earth's crust.

[brazen moon]

Imagine a deleted message from Steven and a Bazinga!

[south cradle]

I honestly dislike Asian MMO’s, so hoping this game doesn’t get Asian-ified

[mint basin]

this game won't exist much longer diddy blud

[formal nebula]

Anyone wanna play Albion a group of us started we are all pretty new shoot me a msg 😆

[fair blade]

30 minutes ?! I must be careful not to accidentally press the

[proper helm]

Feels like a repeat of EQNext.

[soft cliff]

From Ashes to Asian's of Creation

[oblique cypress]

oh on i accidentaly sent

[scarlet tiger]

bom dia, e nozes

[winter oxide]

omg

[clear lake]

Was this move part of their milestones?

[ocean stag]

toma slow mode de 30min

[empty birch]

I wonder what Pirate "Roach" Software's take will be on this?
You think he'll have some insight as to why it failed the way it did?

Maybe he'll pick it up with his game dev knowledge and make Ashes run on a smart fridge?

[rugged cloak]

So I assume refunds are not happening?

[nova zealot]

R.I.P AoC

[torpid rain]

unlucky

[proud mist]

his take is steam was a scam, and it's 100% going to be broken up and sold as Unreal Engine assets.. but he also refused to read any links/videos of info.. just his own 'research'... and he quit the game knowing it was going to die 3 days ago due to a dispute with CSR over not banning a player

[raw sandal]

Think the Rust Director will make an offer?

[tawdry fulcrum]

Prob not, he sold his house and some of the employees reporting they might not get paid. Some people said Wells Fargo and Capital One were helping them with refunds though.

[ashen pilot]

Was Steven in the Epstein files that got released? Just really odd timing, and we know he was rich so probably hung out with other rich folks doing rich folks things 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[sonic nest]

Sigh…

[unreal moss]

unreal engine assets not steam assets, steam release makes it so they dont have to refund kickstarters

[worthy rampart]

hey guys im new here is this game p2w? why is there a slow mode lmao virgin moderators

[silk charm]

game dead dont buy

[flat trench]

pay2notplay

[wicked steppe]

Thank you Intrepid for your time, and your effort.
Regardless whether we liked the game, or not.
You guys worked everyday on this. I appreciate that at the least.
GGs ❤️

[viral falcon]

Nah game alive it’s at its PEAK right now snag it

[split steppe]

Oh my poor EQNext. I was really looking forward that game. EQ was my first MMO.

[spice stump]

PRAISE THE SUUUN

[sterile gale]

likely they're going to sell it and rebrand it

[austere owl]

Took my final screenshots at my favorite spot in ashes will be my wallpaper. Loved the game one of the only ones that really hit that mmo itch

PRAISE THE SUN

[stuck shard]

the gold sellers are the winner in ashes of creation story ngl

[hearty apex]

Right when they FINALLY fixed gathering

[low nimbus]

RIP, so much potential lost.

[broken junco]

I've never had as fun in an MMO as I did in Ashes.

It's a true loss.

[unkempt nest]

it's Steven's world and we're just living in it

[tired flower]

Mlms win again... Gd it karen

[cold carbon]

I was denied twice cuz over 14 days and over 2 hours.

[restive bear]

you prob never had fan in your life

[undone yoke]

steven sold his world to HIS husband a few months ago, released on steam and they dipped lmfao

[sleek comet]

Game is still for sale on Steam. If you posted a positive review you might want to amend it before some poor soul gets duped.

[lime marlin]

Lets review steam and help People not to buy it cus devs cant do that

[heavy meteor]

After being notified of a new mayor election every hour, only for intrepid to get a new mayor. It was actually a countdown for the game to die. Sadge

[vagrant sail]

he was victim

[gloomy lodge]

Why bother with a stress test and offer a skin lol

[glossy niche]

Devs didnt know

[junior atlas]

seeing all the post from top to small guilds saying good bye to their ppl is sad tho.

we had a good run and ended the way most of us expected cause the lack of transparency was killing the hype.

anyways I hope they sell it to a good company cause the idea behind it is really good but the development was too slow even for a MMORPG

[left junco]

Morning!

[blissful turret]

Gg

[modest wedge]

WHERES MY BEETLE MOUNT!!!!!!

[dry mountain]

Imo Steven‘s Ego got hurt because people questioned his development decisions, and like every narcissist he couldn’t take it

[gloomy hornet]

pretty sure it aint happening haha

[main echo]

Atleast got refunded after 220h

[abstract plank]

On steam?

[ornate needle]

selling account with beetle mount entitlement... $200, no low ballers i know what i have!

[sweet frost]

Even if they sell it, game is dead bc the community has zero trust left. I hope someone leaks front and back end code for the community to continue the project, but I don’t really see it happening either

[wintry snow]

The game had such promise so this is incredibly sad. It was a very ambitious project

[untold owl]

...idk i got 405 hours... on steam. i bought the game thinking ill be playing it for the next decade or so...

[topaz lynx]

If anyone want to try a new game, similar to Elden Ring but with a twist, try Soulframe. It's got a really good update coming and it's only 30 dollars for a founder's pack, which will give you access to the game.
Been playing for two years and it's really fun.

[timber pulsar]

💸 enjoy BoraBora with our money Steven 💸 GG, you won

[white glade]

DON'T KILL THE GAME!

[lapis flower]

The Game Dev leaving the Discord for a project that is more than 10 years in the making without leaving a note to the community is literally crazy ...

[cunning vale]

too late

[tawny token]

is it too late for a refund

[hard pagoda]

and it was not even an announcement, literally general chat lmfao

[drifting nest]

I do not believe this is the end! I refuse to! 🤯

[hallow sequoia]

if anyone want to try a similar game try darkfall rise of agon, graphics are bad but makes it up with gameplay and combat

[blissful coral]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[timber pulsar]

what a waste

[hard lagoon]

Honestly as someone who kickstarted the game and paid a good chunk of money... and seeing the state of the game now... it had good bones... but the dev team was working so slow for being "industry veterans". Game should not have still been as shit as it is this long into production.

[empty geyser]

🙏 Dear Valve, please buy all code, IP, assetts, and employees, from New World and Ashes of Creation, and create the greatest MMO in history

[left crater]

No good games anymore. All just money scams

[round dome]

So.... they released it in steam and 1 month later close the studio? Come on no way they didn't knew before releasing steam wtf

[muted badge]

City of Heroes: Homecoming is in a better state than Ashes right now

[tawny hawk]

If you think the dev speed of this game is slow you are insane

[topaz gull]

I'll buy the game off the board. $50. Will continue to produce it and make it better.

[vivid delta]

the vision was too big, if they just completed what is there right now instead of working on adding more they would have had a good game. and of course they needed to actually add pvp

[worthy sigil]

I feel the same...

[sage cobalt]

Hey guys I've been away for a bit, how's the game doing today

[naive umbra]

Wow is thriving come play that

[wind dew]

u not gonna belive it

[oak nest]

@vague leaf Any updates on Harbringers?

[rich delta]

Except you definitely will believe it

[earnest imp]

All good, login we’re looking for people for the Forge

[dim crescent]

wouldnt surprise me at this point

[wild stump]

I'm not mad at all. I enjoyed every second of it. Even if it won't be here for the future I will remember it as good. Thanks for trying.

[lyric mantle]

I think we should ask Elon Musk to get into the MMO business at this point,,,

[worthy lagoon]

are the discord moderators being laid off too? anarchy will prevail

[fading vale]

@half pilot @vague leaf .... I'll be over to your office in 2 hours. Bitch better have my money.

[sudden locust]

same. it was great while it lasted

[alpine shadow]

Gotta ask the person that plays his games for him to do the work though

[tired dock]

first and last game i ever preorder

[hybrid sierra]

Wait what happened to AoC?

[jaunty ingot]

One last wipe guys finally

[winged spear]

ppl play 500hrs and still cry for 40 $..it is the cheapest minute per $ compare

[random lance]

from now on i gotta do the steven check, does steven have anything to do with this game in any capacity? if yes then dont touch it with a 50 foot pole

[steep barn]

I was planning to take the whole of next week off to farm for my set, and now the game is broken! What do I do? I want a refund for my game and my vacation!

[umbral dagger]

Will there be refund?

[runic crag]

doubtful

[obtuse hull]

yall just hop on archeage classic, this game is dead

[olive flax]

i doubt steven will be welcome in the industry after this tbh

[placid rampart]

Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1771009200:F>! The stream will kick off in 3 days 10 hours 26 minutes.

Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation

[late yoke]

lmao

[craggy cairn]

What a Joke

[spring totem]

Steven mlm king Shariff will be a stain on the mmo community forever.

[smoky sorrel]

Atleast AOC sold 200ks account at $100, means they already got $20m (not counting steam accounts). There is no way the board gonna shut down this project because of one ppl runt. Im betting the game kept online while the board finding new team to develops the game.

[pliant flame]

the bot hasn't been laid off apparently 😛

[foggy pelican]

that needs to be moved up

[thorn hinge]

Holy cope

[rancid panther]

Rest In Peace AOC It Got Hit By A Bazooka ‼️ 🥀 Kaboom 💥 Kablaow 💥 🥀

[solar hearth]

fix your reviews on steam guys

[unique jacinth]

before anyone finds a decent team of devs, get them familiar with code, and anything starts to being actually developed, the game would be launched near 2045

[cyan gate]

MMO genre is so dead. Nobody in the gaming industy even dares to try at this point. See you guys maybe in 2040 when next big MMO is introduced

[wary iron]

@acoustic harness any comments?

[gritty spindle]

Guys, lets make a X post and we tag Elon and we all go and share that maybe he takes a look and continues xD

[glass wing]

Wow. This is really something huh

[woeful kayak]

How much has Stephen made from this scam?

[iron pollen]

The fact that people play this game that would advocate for Elon Musk taking over anything makes me glad it's crashing. 😂

[sick yarrow]

Almost the exact same words as I've been using since I heard

[lost kestrel]

Honestly if enough people tag Elon i bet he does fix it, it fixes his meme personality

[rotund gale]

I can picture it now 'Epstein didnt want me but maybe these nerds do'

[floral prism]

What are the moderators even doing here still? Why haven't they quit?

[tepid sand]

I would trust Elon Musk with anything dude

[delicate osprey]

Just hanging around, much like everyone else, at this point we just have red names is all 💔

[warm root]

Is the game really closing tomorrow?

[reef cliff]

So apparently the moderators all lost the ability to control anything when all of this happened. Someone was 100% scanning through and deleting messages and setting the 6 hour cooldown on everything, probably Steven since it seems like everybody else lost permissions. But remember he quit for ethical reasons..

[proven lynx]

Because there is no official statement yet. Would be weird to just pack up and leave as soon as the news hit.
You are still here as well btw

[edgy birch]

bruh still 0 offficial statements what is this

[frosty dirge]

you got no powers left ?

[delicate osprey]

There is no official information on that

[white valve]

<@&542059693779058748> are we seriously going on a fucking 30 minute slow mode to get one last power trip? Your mod powers are gone, let people vent.

[summer vigil]

i waasnt online in 3 Months ...

WHAT IS GOING ON ?! i need a TLDR Plz 🔥

[gaunt birch]

Repeat your last sentence slowly in your brain…

[wise spade]

its all ogre

[odd wing]

is steven going to make some sort of official statement or what, what about refunds? is the game being picked up? servers going down tomorrow? jesus christ he lied to us for 10 years and cant even communicate when he does this

[blazing blaze]

Well it was a good ride and my 150 USD investment paid off in many many great hours in the game before the whole Steam Release BS 🙂 Thanks to the Devs for putting their hearts into this, its weird lets see what actually happened behind the scenes, it will come out eventually.

[sly mantle]

File for refund via steam

[peak temple]

game dead

[slender ivy]

To be honest im just laughing at all the peopel that did hundreds in RMT ing and for nothing hahaha

[granite solar]

🫃

[wary cipher]

"Since the beginning, Intrepid has held to the philosophy of making games with no pay-to-win or cash grab elements – we respect our players and believe that these tactics aren’t necessary if we simply build games that players want to play." - Values section, Intrepid Studios website. Aged like wine.

[torn tapir]

releasing on steam made steven safe for: i will give back money to everyone if this game will not be released

[opaque pebble]

Just in time for Classic TBC anniversary release

[civic kestrel]

🤡

[delicate osprey]

Basically in short, with official statements, Steven resigned from his position due to board's decisions that didn't align with his vision, and Mag as well all other lead quit, and the board fired everyone else.
This is direct from Steven, and Mag's statement via LinkedIn. Everything else, is speculation rn. I don't think we'll get any more confirmed details right now.

[quick arrow]

Game is dead, everyone fired, steven is scammer, ashes will be sold to tencent

[tender urchin]

AOC SHUTS DOWN 2nd and WOW midnight drops on the 2nd

[golden ether]

Valve wont stand for their early access program being abused like this

[jolly hearth]

But he's the board

[spring moon]

TY STEVEN FOR THE BEST MMO IVE PLAYED ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ TY STEVEN FOR THE BEST MMO IVE PLAYED ❤️ TY STEVEN FOR THE BEST MMO IVE PLAYED ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ TY STEVEN FOR THE BEST MMO IVE PLAYED ❤️ TY STEVEN FOR THE BEST MMO IVE PLAYED ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

PS: MISS YOU BUDDY MY SHOALSKIPPER

[tulip mica]

Pussy lmao

[delicate osprey]

Truthfully I know nothing more than everyone else at this point, and I completely understand everyones frustrations right now 💔

[crisp zenith]

how we know everyone is fired?

[frail urchin]

WTF IS THIS 30 MINUTE SLOW MODE BULLSHIT?.!.?.?.?.?

[violet frost]

WARN Act

[unborn wigeon]

All the looking for work tags on linked in

[valid grotto]

@vague leaf fdp porte tes couilles

[delicate osprey]

#alpha-two-general message this is the last message we got from Steven regarding this

[burnt spade]

F

[high moon]

bring back old momentum

[scenic tartan]

Everyone waking up to the ashes it’s like a Christmas nightmare! Someone pinch me !!!

[pseudo token]

You know exactly what happens in the MMO world when a studio lays off employees and stops communicating. We call that a dead game! A goodbye without even saying a word

[soft merlin]

Bots still running strong in the game though. Edit: Bad time to lose a software dev job/any job.

[amber latch]

It would be a shame to see Ashes of Creation shut down, the game has so much potential. Couldn’t another company take it over and continue development?

Another question is: which MMORPG are you guys switching to now? Since there’s currently no real MMORPG to play.

[cloud dune]

@vague leaf I kindly ask that you ‘accidentally’ leak the game’s code so the community can create private servers for Ashes of Creation hahaha

[crystal sable]

Bring back the time I watched the first ue5 stream. So much hope. So much hope.

[somber rapids]

Damn... just heard the news. This shts real or.... wtf is happening

[tawdry comet]

this is the wake bro

[rich cove]

any word on when we'll be able to hear more details? im curious what the board tried to force that was so bad everyone had to leave

[delicate osprey]

It still feels like a bad dream friend 💔

[jagged laurel]

Back to classic wow when they relaunch wrath i guess lmao

[mighty charm]

to everyone who is wondering, the game isn't dead it is now owned by an MLM group led by a real karen who is going to outsource it to people in the Philippines, so even if the game comes out it will not be the ashes of creation we wanted.
there is other news that the developer of rust wanted to offer 25 mill to help save the product, TLDR. we're f^&$ed

The game will continue I think but under leadership and developers from Asia.

[delicate osprey]

I would absolutely love to give you guys more details but I'm just a volunteer and I have no idea what is going on any more than you guys 💔

[pine vale]

for real the copium we used to inhale for years... good times...

[unique prawn]

RIP ashes of creation, much mistakes, sad but true, i Hope that anyone buy the Studio and Take the Project

[delicate ivy]

who's moderating the slowmode?

[gusty gate]

I just hopped in for the first time in months, wtf is going on?

[brazen anvil]

There's no official "EverQuest 3" title yet, but Daybreak Games (Darkpaw Games) is actively working on a new EverQuest MMO, aiming for a 2028 target release, likely as a modern reboot of the original EverQuest (EQ1), focusing on classic elements with modern visuals, potentially incorporating challenging gameplay, and even eyeing consoles. The project is in the concept/ideation phase, emphasizing a return to core EQ identity rather than a sequel like EQ2, with plans to attract both new and old players by modernizing the iconic world.

[rustic echo]

For all we know, they might fire all the NA staff and move development over to asia, it would be wierd to cancel the game at this point.

[old copper]

Only 20 hours and steam won't give a refund. Bastards

[civic cloak]

We are gathered here today, to realize the truest words from Ashes of Creation - Glop is Love

[nimble whale]

any PI's need a shoulder to cry on? i got one free

[lament zephyr]

havent heard Glop is Love for 10 months xD

[mortal acorn]

It’s going to turn into a mobile game and only updates will consist of shop changes for loot crates and wearables

[ashen flame]

Steam aren't giving refunds because they know more than we do

[gusty schooner]

I had time to prepare for this, sorry to those that didnt see the writing on the wall. As soon as they announced steam early acesss I knew it was 100% cooked.

[tawdry fulcrum]

Hopefully, when Steven sold his house last month he planned to use some of that money to pay his employees.

[graceful pebble]

Do we know for a Fact game is shutting down? What about "the board" and the plans steven was not aligned for?

[south cradle]

Hope whatever studio takes over doesn’t suck balls

[wicked warren]

I love the gargantuan cope on here, there are no devs, the game is gone. Sucks I enjoyed it. Complain enough to Steam and you'll likely get a refund that's your best bet.

[proud mist]

according to google.. for 800k a week you can hire 650 Chinese devs and artists and engineers

This concludes my 30 minute checkin..

[iron tiger]

WHERE IS NAAAAAAAAAAAAAARC AT THIS TIME????

[silent crater]

Never played archeage, anyone here play archeage classic as its not on steam anymore was going to pop in and give it a go, is it free? is it good? does it have a steady playerbase?

[pine plume]

Sad actually... I was hopping to find an MMO hope other than EvE online... Should we expect a Narc video?!!?!??! LOL

[hasty jasper]

So in other words, development will actually be fast

[tight crest]

who the hell is Narc?

[queen eagle]

That's a weird word for running away with our money.

[tawdry shore]

He sold it to his spouse. That's classic asset protection. He knew creditors were coming after him so he sold the house to his spouse in order to not lose the house

[native belfry]

Last I played, it was good. Standard ArcheAge content but without the p2w side of it

Don't know what its like now, but I was there for launch

[errant garnet]

Save this game!! Please 🙏 best mmo ever, now nothing will compare 😭

[opaque cypress]

I logged back in myself lol.

Y'all are all free to come chill with AURA if you like. I'll toss friend roles if you guys wanna come hang.

Discord GG /auraguild

[small sparrow]

No, the owner of rust didn’t make an offer. Check the date, people photoshopped ashes as the person @ ‘ed. That offer was for new world

[soft cliff]

@delicate osprey can you please lower the slowmode to like 5 minutes? 30 minutes is really excessive

[mint lake]

Thanks for trying steven, even if you get lots of hate atleast you did try. Not many can say they tried so hard

[eternal hemlock]

Eve isn’t an mmo it’s a spreadsheet simulator

[sinful hatch]

What the fuck

[slate spoke]

On the bright side, just how many fools spent real money over the last few weeks buying Gold through RMT and have lost their cash!!! 😀

[dapper sierra]

You have no ideea

[coral hamlet]

join the aac discord and ask the community. Yes its Free, its the best private server IMO. No BOT, NO rmt, NO alting accounts allow, NO p2w.

[vapid loom]

Well, you were all calling for a wipe... congrats! Don't have to worry about RMT now

[placid scroll]

What are the odds of getting a refund if you never played? 😭

[lethal totem]

I'm very relaxed, thanks 🙂 Just want us to be factual.

[vagrant shoal]

Steven rend l'argent !

[devout kestrel]

Can we get refunds?

[sterile bear]

Couldn't have failed at a better time really, TBC Classic about to launch

[south lion]

Do you guys think this game will be sold and become a P2W cash-grab or do you think it will just die?

[hoary laurel]

Any recommendations for a new MMO?

[trail prairie]

Just die

[dusky mica]

on 2nd February servers will be shutdown
the source: corporate emails, studio closes on 2nd feb

[proper helm]

Pantheon then?

[chilly cobalt]

where is the source

[glass spoke]

I bet they will be bought and yes they rly need to make money^^ Skins or p2w will come

[slate pond]

Finally I will touch the grass

[haughty dust]

Darkfall rise of agon if you like pvp!

[formal hinge]

dude google it yourself lazy asshat

[main silo]

The warn act states they have to shut down by end of business day

[somber ferry]

where does that come from?

[hasty crest]

They not it’s gonna go down in dumpster fire 🔥. Off to the next mmo

[little sorrel]

does warn act not supposed to be before 60 days ?

[trim drum]

a WARN notice is going out per employees on 2/2. WARNS usually mean 60 days.

[final raptor]

This is a relief. The story is over. Not the ending I wanted but I can happily close the book. See ya on the flippity flip.

[torpid burrow]

Just like a phoenix, the game will RISE UP FROM THE ASHES. (In bankruptcy court probably)

[bold flint]

see you in the next mmo

[olive vale]

I guess it is going to be wow

[wide cloak]

If you see a WumpusAmungus in another MMO, say hey

[shut rivet]

Has there been any more info over night from any employees about what happened?

[craggy juniper]

STEVEN cashapp me 50$ for the game or ill picket your fucklng house

[white parrot]

Everyone funneled into the divine gates to Verra but the instant reintroduction of magic killed everyone the end.

[solemn moss]

selling full leggo rosarium

[raw jolt]

Gimme

[wild bough]

can i refund if it was from the kickstarter?

[wooden mica]

Yes Margaret confirmed everyones getting laid off

[ornate needle]

studio known for vaporware created vaporware, who could've known! good enough TLDR? lol

[robust copper]

No lol

[snow skiff]

Well no surprise that this game went down to pooper. too many promises. and signing deals that everyone knows will go down

[cold carbon]

I bought 45 days ago and cant refund it. No way you’re gonna be able to.

Edit: yes, steam denied it. Twice.

[celest ledge]

Rip where my refund

[near cedar]

We need Richard Garriot

[dawn depot]

close the discord plezzz

[opaque merlin]

Theory Forge is live saying he doesn't think the servers are going down right away. Who knows at this point lol

[shy bolt]

just saw that the game will close , is it real?

[last cloak]

Did they deny it?

[left radish]

Guys I’m gonna start a kickstarter to buy intrepid can you help me out?

[heavy hill]

It would be a shame to let this game die. Despite being in an alpha stage, it is the best MMORPG on the market.
The problem was never the vision, but the inability to fix bugs. Even deploying new patches didn’t work properly, not even with a test server.

In my opinion, a new team would do the game a lot of good. If the team had been changed years ago, the game would most likely be finished by now.
I’ve been here since December 2025, and nothing really changed during that time. I kept asking myself how they planned to be finished by 2027.

But now, with a new team, they could achieve in weeks what Steve needed months or even years to do. I see this in a positive way and want to emphasize it once again: Ashes of Creation is a GOOD game, and for me it is the only MMO on the market that I want to play right now.

I’m sure most people here feel the same way — that a new team would be good for the game and that we should try to see this development in a positive light.

[brittle pivot]

With what happened yesterday, the trust in the game and its direction is gone, it’s dead and no amount of backing will get that trust back.

[topaz lynx]

LMAO I saw someone type "n@rk wuz r1ght" and it got immediately erased

[gloomy iron]

its got nothing to do with the game itself, Steven lost control of his own company to investors

[novel flume]

So whens the game coming out?

[viral swallow]

We'll never know 😭

[jovial pine]

Make sure to submit a blank steam ticket for a refund. They refunded me

[gray parrot]

Purple names are the real victims here

[umbral sundial]

indeed we need the real RG

[untold thunder]

Who can't wait for the LazyPeon video?

[prime gull]

well, osrs back to the main monitor

[meager hedge]

Don’t worry guys, I’m sure Steven is looking into how to sell the discord as we speak to make a few more $

[peak pond]

My thing is that Ive heard Steven say the game is fully funded by him and it will come out regardless, well then how did a BoD of investers take control?

[pastel solstice]

[random verge]

dont think itll be for anyone soon kekw

[ebon geyser]

Let me introduce you to this concept called "lying"

[quaint dune]

why i canot emoticon mssgs ? 😄

[rain raptor]

I just woke up and I’m still sad…

[novel raven]

what are your thoughts?

[brazen kayak]

.

[distant dove]

risk vs reward xD

[viral lichen]

'They refused my refund request .. cause longer active launcher time then 2 hours and bought more then 14d ago ... general rule ... so dunno how you did that... .

[clear lake]

It honestly doesn’t seem real.

[worthy rampart]

imagine still janitoring a discord for a dead game

[lament citrus]

Gosh I sure hope the new owners dont sell all your account information along with CC info

[wooden portal]

Still no official announceemeent?

[north horizon]

Goated

[severe bridge]

Well, I have to admit, I am not surprised. I justhoped I was wrong

[muted badge]

So is everyone going back to New World since that is closest we have to a functioning version of this game?

[kindred marten]

Its crazy anytime n.a.r.c gets typed it chat it immedistely gets taken down

[ocean stag]

"development is a moving train"

[native ice]

ill laugh if he returns to youtube with a title saying i told you so

[polar forum]

i thought there was not supposed to be a board?

[past dragon]

New worlds been toast for years man

[lapis flower]

Narc?

[real steppe]

man oh man my money wasted

[fickle aurora]

Narc

[dusty jewel]

The board: Steven and his husband.

[crisp belfry]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[placid cloud]

At the very least, any new MMO projects can use Ashes as a reference on things not to do
In Riot Games, we trust

[viral falcon]

We’re all about to take a very long break..

[wary iron]

@uncut pilot @pastel solstice any final comments?

[thick flume]

Rug pull. It over nothing u all day changing that

[paper dock]

I'm not gonna lie. It feels like there won't be any new MMO projects after this. The age of MMO's is truly dying. And as a longtime MMO fan. It disheartened me

[pliant pivot]

Imagine a class action lawsuit incoming for the players who never received items purchased in the stores. I wonder if that is coming......

[elfin owl]

couldn't agree more, anybody that's spent more than 3 months with Ashes will now use it as a template for other MMOs

[opaque fractal]

new doom tech dropped????

[cunning quiver]

Players killed MMOs by gamers becomming to casual and accustomed to fast travel and instanced themepark gameplay

[lapis crane]

this\

[zealous geyser]

o7

[oak nest]

@vague leaf So live stream not happening?

[river raptor]

HAHAA RIOT, HAHHAHA

[lost kestrel]

Welp back to osrs. The other filters work for him but I doubt this one does

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[quaint trout]

Yo guys, what is happening? I’m so confused

[slender mulch]

How does it get more official than Steven? lol

[undone phoenix]

mmo's must move to monthly payment 10$ a month, so they can survive and keep bring us good content. I wish i was rich, i would make the new Silkroad game all of us dreaming of.

[vagrant ginkgo]

Game is done

[white glade]

DONT KILL

[copper cairn]

yall have options for other games that have the same feels?

[whole karma]

feb 2nd is the last day boys

[topaz bramble]

Kinda like he back off bcs BOARD didnt write it to news.. nothing just random drop in GENERAL CHAT suddenly game should shutdown just bcs he back off

[cinder maple]

not big enough dick then

[rose spindle]

@rain raptor Whats next MMO?

[sleek cairn]

whats everyone doing here in this big channel???

[cosmic sparrow]

so who owns this game now

[halcyon depot]

Oh God its a second Chronicles of Elyria

[solar epoch]

Lel ultra scammed

[hearty shore]

ya ya legacy or something

[bleak agate]

refund till u can

[patent plover]

Once an MLM always an MLM, its nothing that we shouldn't have expected it .

[wheat palm]

Monsters & Memories, Project Gorgon or Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen

[rotund gale]

Now theres a scam I havent heard in a while hahaha]

[jaunty plover]

🤣

[chilly locust]

RIP

[granite solar]

ohh we have a great tip for you, go refund it

[marsh willow]

When does ashes of creation 2 kickstarter begins @vague leaf

[mighty charm]

it would be so funny if we got a development update on the 13th by a Karen.

[broken junco]

I wish, I wish, I wish that Valve would pick the game up, and finish it.

[silver flower]

A game dying with a 15k pop on steam charts is crazy

[elfin aurora]

Any millionaries here watching this and deciding to make their own MMORPG?

[gentle basin]

The game is not yet dead but the community needs to stay strong and pressure for it to keep going

Hytale is an example that games presumed dead can come back even better

[tropic veldt]

The last early access game i put any amount of money on that didn't make it was EverQuest Next Landmark, and tbh this closure feels better than that did. Confusion of creative direction can be fixed, things not being fun can be fixed, ethical dilemmas can't

[fading vale]

Next kickstarter from @vague leaf is going to be Apocolypse, From Ashes to Riches Sequal

[still coyote]

Honestly I got my money's worth. It's a great game an I wish it coulda stood the test of time. The people calling this a scam are just dipshits.

[winged gazelle]

Maybe Steven and his team was not getting the job done

[reef cliff]

My dude, the game was a scam. It never even released, you're the dipshit for glazing a scam artist xD sad clown noises.

[shut storm]

Has anyone found any similar games that they are going to go play now?

[fluid goblet]

i enjoyed it too but still it is a scam

[arctic helm]

UE5 seems like a pretty cursed engine.

[unique jacinth]

wosb atm, and epitome in close future

[median wren]

My friend said elon musk is looking into buying it and finishing the development with AI

[quasi wharf]

Oh well... I still have Star Citizen to dream about. Lets see if Chris Roberts steps down next.

[undone yoke]

well you guys got your Risk vs Reward , All Risk for no reward just like all the systems in game but so is the existence of the game.

cant say steven didnt follow his vision to the end 🤣 , if you guys dont like that then the game is not for you

[grave frost]

Hello guys, I havent played AoC for a couple of weeks. (I was tired of the connecion issues and low fixing). Can Anyone tell me what just happend? Why are they calling ashes of scam?. There was any news? Post? O what happend? I am lost in here

[opal iron]

Fuck the AoC team. I was having such a good time with this game and sank both $50 and 130 hours of my life into it just for them to shut it down. Fkin money grubbers

[narrow reef]

My friend, it's owned by a foreign VC company now. If it survives it will be as a microtransaction shell of itself. @vague leaf fucked us all over by lying and selling bits of his company off behind the scenes until he was no longer in control. Scumbag behavior

[peak carbon]

Check pins

[random geode]

Im on 800 hours I had a blast

[lethal granite]

Yeah it's only Alpha guys. Don't worry, these things happen in alpha. It's just a big bug that needs ironing out.

[odd nexus]

Steven Is such a bs artist lmao 🤣 🤣🤣🤣 convinced everyone. He had this sht funded and he was one making all the decisions just to backtrack on all of it rip my 300$ but at this point who cares

[hasty jasper]

He took 9 years... Then on top of that, most of the systems aren't even original or largely different, so why did it take so long? Should have known when I found out "simp" was filtered ig. Ya defending him really simps. The most logical solution is that, no one takes 9 years to not even get 25% of the game done.

[dreamy ferry]

steven are bad actor))))

[tacit beacon]

@acoustic harness did you hear

[halcyon summit]

well. thank you for bringing the people I now play with together. I found my guild at a rough time and they've been my consistent friends now for over 5 years. shame we can't do it while playing AOC but, thanks.

[gaunt raft]

Steven said leave the game and return in 2 years, we'll still be here 😆

[timber pulsar]

💸 Enjoy our money Steven GG you won 💸

[queen eagle]

@vague leaf

All my 6-7 friends just blocked me on Facebook because I made them buy this SCAM game!

Also, AoC died before i could find a girlfriend... 😔

I think I now have trust issues because of you 💔

[fresh onyx]

738hrs since steam release here

[strange wharf]

@vague leaf Thanks for the fun times. Best of luck in your future.

[civic cloak]

MMO enjoyers, dont feel bad. We all know baseball is a scam and its going to die out any day too.

[stark reef]

I'm so thankful I didn't sink so much time into this game built shit

[fiery ginkgo]

People wishing Steven luck fail to miss the whole "this was an 8 year long con"

[silver horizon]

Chat going so fast no one will notice I'm gay

[dull thorn]

Thank God we stress tested the servers 2 days ago for a bettle 😂

[edgy dune]

I want to see John respond to this, as the CFO he could pull this game back from the grave 🙂

[mint lake]

@vague leaf I bought alpha2 access for 240 usd, I do not mind loosing the money at all, I knew what I getting myself into. At least you tried your best to the limit, not many can say that. Good luck on your other future endeavors. All the love to you and the solid team that was on this adventure!

[earnest kindle]

from what it appears, Steven left this discord last night

[weak silo]

i suspect it might have been him who was getting antsy with his money getting burned but we may never know

[crude burrow]

LMAO, his entire family are scamming a lot of people. It would have been cool to know this story before buying the game

[strong dawn]

Figures, roach out with the cheddar!

[tawdry shore]

The story so far with publicly known facts :

Steven founded Intrepid Studios in 2015 and for years claimed to be the sole owner with no board and no investors. State filings confirm he was CEO, Director, and Secretary. His words: "I am the sole share owner in the company. I don't have to answer to a board." The 2017 Kickstarter raised $3.27M from nearly a 20k backers with an explicit promise: "In the case that Ashes of Creation does NOT launch, we promise to refund all backers in full." Sharif personally guaranteed refunds from his own wealth in a PC Gamer interview.

Despite claiming full funding, lawsuits piled up. Sada Systems sued for $850k in unpaid cloud fees. Aetna filed a debt collection suit. Streamline Media sued over unpaid battle royale assets. California EDD filed ~$50k in payroll tax liens starting in 2020. The Ya-Ya Legacy Trust, a 9.7% shareholder, sued in 2024 after being denied access to financial books and bank statements. Sharif's other entity, Trek Holdings LLC, was suspended by the state.

In November 2025, Sharif transferred his home to his spouse — asset protection before creditors arrived. On December 11, Intrepid rushed an unfinished Alpha 2 onto Steam Early Access, technically "launching" the game and voiding the Kickstarter refund promise. On January 16, 2026, Karen Boreyko — co-founder of Vemma, an MLM shut down by the FTC as a pyramid scheme, connected to Sharif through the XanGo/Vemma world — filed a UCC lien securing her claim on Intrepid's assets. Layoffs began. On January 31, Sharif resigned via Discord blaming "the board" for unethical decisions. WARN Act notices followed. The studio couldn't make payroll.

Sharif was the board. He said so for years. He ran the company into the ground, took debt from Boreyko, couldn't pay, and she took control. The resignation "in protest" is spin. The house transfer shows he knew it was coming. Backers have no clear path to refunds.

[wild prairie]

just a shitshow happening

[terse kindle]

y i dont see his name anymore on discord

[proper raft]

I think the Development Livestream is not happening, guys!

[placid rampart]

Join us for our monthly Development Update Livestream on <t:1771009200:F>! The stream will kick off in 3 days 10 hours 26 minutes.

Watch live here: https://www.twitch.tv/ashesofcreation

[wary fable]

so is it true that Steven is the board?

[random mist]

Haha

[pliant prism]

If you can still tag @vague leaf and @half pilot that means they did NOT leave discord, they are just set as hidden from member list. They are still here.

[sterile lodge]

you forgot to mention steven has been banning people who call him out sine 2015 as well,including content creators

[supple flower]

This game died before Pax Dei and that's saying a LOT

[smoky sorrel]

Looking at WARN Act, there will be some employees will stay after some negotiation. Some "traitor" will be there, and its normal for any company. They have family to take care of. This "traitor" ofc know most of the codes and many things behind the scene. So I still betting the game will be kept online until new dev team assambled.

[torn terrace]

Lets head to ArcheAge Classic everyone!

[hasty girder]

But this morning they have continued to restart the servers as they had planned? It’s all very strange

[glossy jetty]

yea same. Just fck steaven and keep play. fck this clown who plays in a godman lol

[unkempt latch]

Does this mean streamers won't get special attention anymore? lol

[viral falcon]

I’m actually about to try ArchRage myself never played the archage game so it’ll be nice to have something new to me to play

[night sail]

Does Margaret Khron still work there?

[dapper sonnet]

I already uninstalled the game

[golden lily]

Pretty sure she's gone, but obviously that doesn't automatically delete the company discord account

[noble condor]

What game are we going to?

[forest quiver]

runescape

[compact lagoon]

Hello Kitty Online

[austere osprey]

First Club Penguin now this...

[odd flicker]

I am going to try Guild wars 2 and Albion

[simple totem]

Do I still get my PTR mount?m

[waxen phoenix]

Ark

[solemn moss]

He's still here..you can @ him which means he's still in the server

[split raven]

kkkkk eu avisei. só não acerto na loteria.

[last perch]

I just started albion but the sub is hella pricy for a sub

[torpid burrow]

Im going to try to sign back up for neopets and toon town

[dapper sierra]

@vague leaf where's my money bitch?

[pearl mica]

Being a DIK 3 just released innit? Let’s have a group cry wank together

[opal phoenix]

First Steven got us with the cancer drinks that turned out to be a pyramid scheme. Next he got us with a long con with ashes. I wonder what scam is next

[gloomy hornet]

So no new skins on Feb 11th?

[sleek juniper]

13 Friday? The black fryday? Dam, what a perfect day to have the goodby livestream

[tender tulip]

Stfu with its a scam bs the game was never a scam. They did some shady shit the last few months but it was never a scam

[fleet iron]

COPIUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[gusty schooner]

I NEVER GOT SCAMMED!!! AHHHHH oh wait...

[fresh pond]

Did I get my mount skin from the PTR ?

[digital jewel]

Across consumer law (especially EU/EEA, but even conceptually elsewhere):
• A product must remain usable for a reasonable period of time
• Sudden inaccessibility can constitute a lack of conformity
• Platform rules (like Steam’s 14-day / 2-hour refund policy) do not override statutory consumer rights

Uploading something briefly or labeling it “released” doesn’t automatically satisfy consumer law obligations.

I see a big lawsuit incoming lmao

[devout fractal]

She/her in your bio, girl u already cooked

[zealous linden]

copium....dammit...someone beat me to it

[timber pulsar]

ANANIIIIIIIIZI SİKİMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM AGIR OROSPU COCUSUN STEVEN

[silent sparrow]

soooooooo -500€ for me?

[verbal pulsar]

WE ARE STILL EXPECTING OUR BEETLES

[nova jasper]

yup

[lapis vault]

Quite the buildup to the scam. 9 years of developing a game so that they can just give all the money and resources and IP to an investment fund.

[tired crown]

LFG OAKENBANE

[sterile nymph]

Any updates?

[winged matrix]

weewooweewooweewoo

[sterile summit]

skins next month, new classes in march, new portion of the map open, only good stuff

[fallen cave]

Fight me, leave fellow otters alone

[fast umbra]

is this it ? will we hear anything more or is it just turn the lights off ?

[near cipher]

-30min

[rare canyon]

I'll go crazy if the rights to Ashes go to Amazon, and they take advantage of the graphics engines and make a Lord of the Rings game using it.

[junior atlas]

so we are going back to wow and final fantasy?

[languid thicket]

What was the issue Steven had with the board of directors that he couldn't agree with? Did they demand he actually add PvP and content to the game?

[fair inlet]

@vague leaf have you considered making the GIT repo public out of pure spite?

[onyx bough]

yea shes brainwashed. i seen her in Minnesotta Protesting ice with her green haired girlfriend

[coral monolith]

😂

[pulsar wolf]

Guys dw we get Ashes of Ashes of Creation soontm

[magic cypress]

Is it true, did Ashes join the Chronicles of Elyria Cinematic Universe

[strong radish]

'Some shady shit' - do you know about steven and his mom's MLM nonsense prior to the kickstarter? People dont change

[surreal cosmos]

and as always, youtube video essayist get the last laugh 🙁

[chilly mist]

I HOPE VALVE BUYS AOC