alpha-two-general

[slender glen]

unhappy people grasping for something in a video game to make them happy when they need to go to therapy and fix what at its core is making them unhappy. No emotional regulation. No joy if its not exactly what they want they need others to hear how bad it is instead of just playing something else.

Screaming into the sad cold void 🙁

[tight leaf]

I think you're just confused

[civic jolt]

i hope they use the archage zone war system but for ZOI and whole biomes

[distant wasp]

dude that’s what i thought the rotating lawless areas were supposed to be lol i was actually baited so hard

[fallow mica]

Or not deluded, ironically, easily confused with one another

[civic jolt]

a devs has said that was there first quick iteration of it so hopefully they expand on it soon, during a PTR prompt interview when they took quiestions

[tight leaf]

Ok bro 🫩

[slender glen]

i will say having been up to lvl 17 with 0 pvp interactions is sad for me but idk if im doing it wrong xD

Really was hoping to fight people more

[tight leaf]

The node system doesn't seem there yet

[balmy walrus]

I think they need to expand on some type of content loop soon.

Harbingers / caravans / pvp zones / events - somethings got to give.

Current best content is organising a scrim or popping a war scroll on 20 mule runners which is just ass. Oh yeah or pirating when the boats don’t force crash a SW 😭

Give us content

[tacit cairn]

Start attacking people \o/ works most of the time.. just do not kill them outright or ya get corruption if they do not fight back.

[dapper sierra]

I hope they're reducing the resources amount for gearing,it's an alpha and a press F simulator, no noticeable drops from mobs, y'all can't blame people for being salty, this changes are not that big and should be easily implemented, faster gearing= better PvP easy no?

[slender glen]

ill try this out mayb the people im running by itching for a fight just as much as i am

[uncut pilot]

Just add it to the wiki. Steven can't remember half the shit he says, so make up a stub, add some dead reference numbers, and people will keep posting it until it becomes reality. "Well, they got a reference, so I must have said that some time, make it happen."

[civic jolt]

why they fight back most will let u kill them cause ur more of a reward when they come back that seems to be how people play it atm

[tacit cairn]

ya lot sem to fight back, probably will not if they have lot of good materials though.

[balmy walrus]

I hope the current mar requirements are what we’ll have at 50.

Then they’ll scale it right down for mar requirements for 1-30? Something like that would be great

[tacit cairn]

meh just run around tapping people and will get plenty that will fight for fun

[slender glen]

flagging for pvp should cut your dropped materials in 1/2 1/4th or something

[dawn needle]

Are you gonna fix people being able to to abuse the mechanics by going naked with a weapon and kill someone or is that just a "skill issue"?

[distant wasp]

its cuz the main wave is already 25. Next wipe if you’re there at launch there’s always loads of poi pvp

[tacit cairn]

i am going to fix nothing.. probably will take a nap.. but the dev are working on many things.

[dapper sierra]

Been thinking bout that, if at level 25 the amounts of mats needed are a bit insane, think about level 50 lool 😁

[tacit cairn]

[drowsy spear]

what does it mean by roll back???

[civic jolt]

gear dropping on corruption is the biggest anto pvp mechnic to the point no one want to interact with that system which makes bounty hunter stystem pointless cause there gonna be no one to hunt :p

[tacit cairn]

There is no roll back hehe just a patch/update.

[dawn needle]

are there any specific any we can look forward to or more generic: "We're aware of it but we don't know how to fix it" comments?

[tacit cairn]

This is not the BIG update.. that will be soming to PTR as soon as Steam validates the PTR client stuff.

[uncut pilot]

you know when she gets really fat, and has those handles on the back side. That is roll back.

[drowsy spear]

so this is a big patch for test server?

[bronze crown]

Is this patch adding gathering reagents and a chance of item destruction on repair?

[civic jolt]

when steam lets the PTR be a thing :p

[tacit cairn]

no.. PTR is not live with this patch... they are working with Steam to get that set up as it is a seperate client most likely like the PTR was before.

[slow osprey]

removing gifs was a stab on my back 🥹

[dapper sierra]

One of the best feelings in a MMO is where you drop some good loot now and then, correct me if I'm wrong.
Why does mobs drop only insignificant loot?

[civic jolt]

PTR testing being locked behind steam verificatin process since it a different game per say with steam so u need to go through the addition of new game proces sagain or somethign liek that, so u just be waiting for steam to do their thing

[stoic pecan]

You don't have to go red and stay red

[dawn needle]

As usual Devs create the issues and have no plans to fix the issues for current players. They promise "It's in our plans" but can't give us any specifics. What can I expect from backing since 2018. Pathetic.

What are you going to do for us players who have been backing for over 10 years? Aside from appeasing the cancerous guilds who prefer to treat the game like it belongs to them?

[rich berry]

hesoutoflinebuthesright.gif

[dawn needle]

Bots are rampant, losers are buying gold daily and fucking the economy, and your whole mentality is "Well we're gonn wipe at beta anyway. What does that do for play who have embellished hours of their lives to atest and bug report contestlly during this testing phase?

[slender glen]

Sameeeee

[stoic pecan]

Being red has always been a bragging thing because you were good enough to survive despite the penalties and draw backs if you're not good enough to stay red don't go red. I do agree the gear dropping probably could be dialed back a bit

[lyric jetty]

Wonder when we’re getting archetypes

[dawn needle]

The People who decidate hours of their time to play the game just mean nothing to the cycle of development> Without them., you'd be nothing.

[lyric jetty]

According to road map should be this phase

[dawn needle]

You push maintenance times and claim it is "prime time" and yet you can't even admit to the admit to abuse the players create with tieir blatant abuse of game mechanics

[warped breach]

The last game I had high hopes for decided to cater hard to large guilds, punish the small guilds for working the system to succeed and ultimately got bought out and ceased to exist.

I have similar fears here, as large guilds are easily dominating, players of these groups seem to enjoy the game, while small guilds and solo players are more or less hating the experience. I hope I'm wrong but....

[lyric jetty]

This entire phase is for large guilds 😂😂😂

[rich berry]

I dont know of a single person that goes red on purpose outside of abusing the broken system to farm others crates. That's why its a bad system, nobody wants to interact with it within the way it's been designed. The only time people go red outside of crates is when they have pvp settings wrong or are the victim of griefing where the entire goal was to get that person to go red so they can steal gear off of them.

[warped breach]

Its Crowfall all over again...

[distant wasp]

tried to post a picture of corruption 5 but the mod bot hates me

[lyric jetty]

So when you die is corruption reset or do you just keep losing gear?

[distant wasp]

depends how deep. most corrupted i’ve been i had to die 3 times lol

[stoic pecan]

Again sounds like skill issues pay attention

[uncut pilot]

Damn, it wont even allow message linking. Atom turned off images a while ago.

[warped breach]

MAKE PVP GREAT AGAIN!

Seriously need players to have a reason to corrupt. This whole scheduled pvp deal sucks.

[distant wasp]

Corruption V

You are corrupted.
Guards will attack you on sight and players will hunt you.
Slay monsters or die to reduce your corruption.

You deal 90% less damage to non-combatant players.
You suffer 90% reduced mitigation, health, and mana.
You move 25% slower.
You incur 30% XP debt upon death.
You drop 100% more resources upon death.
You drop 3 to 6 equipped items randomly upon death.

[tepid mesa]

Omg its flagging everything, i just tried to link a feedback post from this discord here about player bounty hunter boards instead of loss of gear and stats debuffs

[warped breach]

See, I don't even see why you'd bother making a pvp game if your gonna go this hard on trying to make players not.

[stoic pecan]

Only things I don't like with that is the mitigation and slow debuff

[distant wasp]

mitigation debuff left with 256 hp lol

[tepid mesa]

Just make is so anytime players have a crate, its pvp flagged. If you are innocent picking flowers, u are safe. If u are moving goods in the world, u are at risk. And if someone kills the flower picker, they get marked on map, and we can all go hunt them down instantly.

[warped breach]

Nah, this is a competitive gatherer simulator.

[tepid mesa]

Its supposed to be a risk vs reward game. Increase the gold payout from a crate so its work taking a single crate across the entire map, but risky

[stoic pecan]

This is already the jist of the system if I'm understanding it correctly but flagging for crates would help it wasn't so bad with the caravans

[languid fossil]

picking up some one elses crate yes id say flag, running your own, i would be against that, some of us noobs, thats our only income source

[north pine]

There is already system for that - caravans.

[tepid mesa]

The mules not flagging like caravans is ruining the pvp risk vs reward silk road type game

[stoic pecan]

I make a ton of gold of crate runners so I'm all for wrapping them in bubble wrap and floating them to their destination 😹

[golden sky]

there's zero pvp risk to crates/mules atm outside a guild dec. I don't think that's Intrepid's intention

[tepid mesa]

They need to fix that asap. Maybe someone forgot to click ENABLE. Bcuz as stated many times by steven if u run crates u are at risk and flagged

[languid fossil]

Ive had mules killed and people not get corrupted from it just flagged whats the issue? honestly, thats not sarcastic. am i missing something?

[north pine]

How do you want to sell crate in city if you are flagged. I swear some people...

[prime rapids]

More like the enabled easy mode for the steam launch to not push people off from the currently broken caravans xD

[tepid mesa]

If u do any damage or heals when u get attacked they wont get corruption. U have to sit and turn the other cheek and die for them to get corruption

[stoic pecan]

I don't like that everyone's answer is basically let us gank noobs and crafters to make pvp better

[placid forum]

They can also do 99% of your life in damage, but a monster kills you, and they won't get corruption.

[golden sky]

crafters and noobs should be safe, but crate running should have some risk to it, that's the intention of the dev for that system

[languid fossil]

Allowing the risk of some one ganking my mule and me losing 2/3 of my crates... seems fine to me

[languid ivy]

I bet you also played Black Desert?

[prime rapids]

I feel like if they make it so mules are just extended cargo storage for gathering, and FIX caravans, it would solve alot of issues. Caravans promote pvp and promote the Risk vs. Reward structure

[tepid mesa]

Not gank noobs, anyone under 10 is safe. But u want to start slanging crates on the silk road, theres risk. Take the road less traveled. Hidden paths. Stay off main roads. Its dangerous

[strange grove]

only reason why mules are there is because of no caravans. Fix caravans and nerf mule payout and hopefully well see some more pvp

[stoic pecan]

Never sorry and I'm not against pvp y'all are welcome to find out anytime on Vyra😽

[warped breach]

There should be a better way to help new players to get into the game before being bullied by higher levels for sure but one thing that people tend to forget is that they can stand up to the bullies in a video game. Mercenary groups will form that will actively escort players and provide protective services, creating a whole new market and industry within the game.

[stoic pecan]

I want gathering bags for mules so bad

[placid forum]

Press X to doubt

[languid ivy]

Nah Im just asking, cause I'm also a lifeskiller in BDO and it's always safe to use a lvl 49 character especially for sailing. My perception is like you are trying to apply or have the same idea for ashes. But yeah, it could be applied to the game.

[prime rapids]

Promote Gathering and selling mats on market/crafting your gear and then running caravans to make raw gold/pvp

[warped breach]

Or you know, you all can just keep lying there and taking it. The Choice is yours.

[stoic pecan]

Most people running crates aren't fighters or pvpers why not ask for the pvp zones? I think the jundark should be lawless and any node with out a settlement

[frozen spire]

I'm here for entertainment

[tepid mesa]

Since its one of the ONLY open pvp mmorpgs out there:
Fix: Open pvp always. As intended. Make Bounty Hunter Boards in each zone. Sign up, and see all the killers on the map. Hunt them down for quest reward like commission board.

[prime rapids]

All endgame POIs(Forge, Carphin, Jundark, etc should all be lawless)

[golden sky]

random idea: put in more lawless pvp areas, if you run a mule through a lawless pvp area you gain a buff that increases the payout of that crate to incentivize them to risk running it through those areas

[stoic pecan]

I spend like 50g on mats at least a day and still missing pieces for my radiant t1 set problem is most people price stuff like you need 20 of something to make anything not hundreds or thousands of pieces lol

[gentle wharf]

Let's put a lawless pvp area at all the passes throughout the game.

[tepid mesa]

For ppl that dont want to play pvp risk vs reward silk road trade run game, play any of the other pve mmorpgs out which is 99% of them on the market

[warped breach]

The only solution I see that works out is having 2 servers, PVE and PVP. The community I see in chat is split on these two fronts. It would just be easier to make 2 game types at this point.

[twin grove]

Everyone says this no matter the game, but for some reason it never happens. There must be some reason why.

For one thing there is no monetary incentive for a group like that to form. They couldnt be paid enough to value their time.

[golden sky]

but you can make like rare tier rosarium and stuff with just one epic rividium + high crafting quality and elixir buff/food buff. I dont think anyone is crafting with 180 epic zinc or whatever

[warped breach]

I guess we just live in a world without heroes.

[stoic pecan]

If you wanna go all risk vs reward play MO2 or a full loot MMO it doesn't have to be either or id prefer a mix but I'm just one opinion

[opal cobalt]

oh man.. stop those pve vs. pvp stuff. There are plenty of games which have a huge pve/industrial community in a pvp / pve sandbox, such as eve online.

[twin grove]

Sadly yes, thats why we tell stories about them. They are aspirational!

[prime rapids]

Guilds and quality crafting make a huge difference. On resna you can get Green quality made with all common matierals

[atomic wadi]

wts common mats

[languid ivy]

They could adapt a merit sytem where there is a certain threshold before you become corrupt and points gained for killing mobs. Like killing innocent is -10k points, while killing mobs gains you 3 points each so killing 3k mobs to make it back to normal merit XD

[dire nova]

Bruuuuuuu i Wake up 7 am to Play and then this….

[warped breach]

Well then, I leave it up to you to solve the problem. I don't see it working out.

[tepid mesa]

We are talking about “mmorpg” games. 3rd person fantasy games with skills, trees, leveling, etc. not discussing other genres like survival games or 1st person games etc.

[opal cobalt]

we are in alpha state of the game.

[rugged oracle]

How you think I feel, get home from work, make dinner, ready to play the game, it’s 7pm, servers down till 11pm

[marsh kelp]

Niche of creation this is some 40k playerbase ideas brother ngl

[warped breach]

Well Obviously. Its hard to miss.

[golden sky]

ok he posts an idea and you dunk on him, I post an idea and you don't dunk on me wtf bro

[stoic pecan]

Aren't those all getting nerfed again? And not everyone is using those plus anyone who is gathering there own and not crafting it has no way of knowing those combinations so I stand by the fact people need to lower prices in the market

[opal cobalt]

then you probably should understand that when not all systems and features are in place, and also devs dont know everything at this point, because implementation is based on concepts, it needs time to develop those systems, balancing, whatever

[stoic pecan]

Mortal online 2 full loot pvp MMO first person skill trees like UO games just shit and will always feel like a beta lol

[warped breach]

And I think, you have no idea what I was talking about

[twin grove]

Then why have a persistent alpha? If literally all systems are subject to change then it makes no sense to test the leveling process for the 4th time.

They can call this an alpha but its really not. Alphas tend to be more focused

[burnt bloom]

how many lines of patch notes do we think we get this time? maybe 4, 1 for each hour

[golden sky]

well yeah if you're not using the crafting quality stat you're gonna have a hard time making high quality gear. Based on how rare materials are it's obvious brute forcing 180 epic zinc isn't the way you get an epic item in the current game state

[tepid mesa]

The main reason AOC was made is because ArcheAge business ppl made it pay to win and got rid of the gear and character progression from running packs by introducing redundant dailies. This destroyed the game.

Steven ran the biggest guild on my AA server. He wanted to give us all a true MMORPG with open world pvp risk vs reward. Like ArcheAge was at launch. But a better version. No labor point system, no pay to win stuff like buying charms to increase your upgrade chances or get more labor pts.

So this is the open world pvp game we have all been waiting years for.

LONG LIVE OPEN PVP!

[placid forum]

This game is still pay to win. PVP skill is irrelevant when you're an under-geared character.

Still love open PVP, but would love to see some stat-normalization for PVP.

[opal cobalt]

why AOC is pay to win?

[distant wasp]

the game is literally not pay to win

[stoic pecan]

1128 tendonite for full moltruin and that's not even the best set lol

[tepid mesa]

Pay to win means u buy something directly from the games shop to boost your char. This game is PUT TIME IN to WIN

[placid forum]

RMT for gear is a real thing. Just because the developer isn't selling the gear doesn't mean people aren't buying stuff with dollars to be competitive.

I dislike it. I'm sure you dislike it, but it's very real. Thankfully, this is an alpha and I'm confident future releases will be even better.

[opal cobalt]

but i agree that the difference between normal gear and good/better gear is too huge, the gap should be closer together to move it towards skill

[golden sky]

crafting is certainly overtuned as far as resource requirement, I'm jsut talkin about the current crafting meta. all about getting a few epic/leggo mats and utilizing high crafting quality stat

[stoic pecan]

Like jewelry is nothing 180 zinc takes no time if your buying granite and crushing it

[smoky wedge]

its funny the things money can do

[distant wasp]

just because rmt exist doesn’t mean the game is pay to win. The game isn’t pay to win even in the slightest.

[opal cobalt]

so every game is pay2win then, i can also buy a level/gearscore booster in wow or somewhere else....

[rotund flame]

180 zinc takes no time if you go out and hit a few rocks. By any chance, are you in a guild?

[dusk bone]

My spider mount makes no sound, its 20$ and allows me to sneak up on people

[golden sky]

if the existance of RMT makes a game pay to win, every multiplayer game with in-game resources is pay to win, its a nothing argument.

[tepid mesa]

In every game in history u have illegal chinese gold farmers. Thats not what makes a game pay to win or not.

Pay to Win deals specifically in the in-game design and shop items available. An example is if u buy a subscription to Ashes and it boosts your damage 20%

Or if u buy a scroll from the Ashes shop and it turns your weapon from common to epic.
Etc etc

[distant wasp]

ya this guy has 0 brain and hasn’t actually played a p2w mmo

[stoic pecan]

So make some gold I'm complaining that even with the gold it's still a pain in the ass

[sand yoke]

archeage was p2w not this lol

[smoky wedge]

not aimed at you, sorry lol

[stoic pecan]

Nope I'm solo

[rotund flame]

You see. The game is very hard solo when you wanna craft some good stuff. First you can't be all professions. And 2nd its way faster have 10 people mine a few high quality something than one guy trying to do it all. Also consider the guild perks

[golden sky]

tbh its hard to complain about stuff being a PITA when the design of the game and crafting is around a group of people helping each other in a guild etc. Although I will not argue crafting overall currently takes too much resources in my opinion

[languid ivy]

I suggest you mine all volcanic rocks and process them for a chance to get a lot of zinc and copper too.

[warped breach]

Solo play? I chop trees, I sell the trees, I buy gear off the market. The prices are terrible.

[placid forum]

Processing rocks produces metals?

[tepid mesa]

Once u put time in, and u hit max level, and can access max level world bosses/dungeons/mobs, you may get lucky and get that legendary weapon drop.

Or put the time in and level up crafting and make your own.

Or put the time in and steal enough players packs u can buy that weapon on marketplace.

This is not pay to win. Its put time in to gain the advantage. As it should be. Skill will be the deciding factor when 2 evenly geared ppl fight.

[opal cobalt]

you can also just gather and sell stuff and buy stuff with earned money.

[simple oxide]

I do think they need to run a balance patch and tighten up the power levels between gear tier and gear rarity. At the moment something like 90% of your characters power comes from gear specifically and I know Steven said he was aiming for a 50/50 split. But beyond that a legendary set dwarfs a rare set in scaling.

Actually wrote about this in my #1462548277080621240 post.

[distant wasp]

adept and initiate crafting need emblems and essence removed and their requirements turned down by half as well. Would love to see this for the early game.

[stoic pecan]

I don't need zinc I'm after tendonite but I get copper and zinc when I cook it but thanks for the advice I haven't messed around with the newer mats

[placid forum]

The gear scaling is wild, for sure.

[eternal hemlock]

Think tendonite maybe better from desert

[golden sky]

if you're just a solo crafter you should really reconsider not joining a guild. Sounds like you'd be a big resource to them and you'd get funneled recipes and mats and tips etc etc I don't see why you wouldn't want to do that unless you're EXTREMELY anti social

[simple oxide]

Its from granite in the anvils

[warped breach]

My End game is just Aura Farming on rooftops while waiting for someone to cry in global about players going corrupt as I wait for the Bounty system and the ability to track reds.

[rotund flame]

Yeah gear scaling is absolutely bonkers. Went from 300 to 370 mo just swapping a few items

[stoic pecan]

I get that and that's I've made friends I still work with other people that wasn't the argument it's just the quantity needed that's even harder on guilds because there's so many mouths to feed

[eternal hemlock]

Oh yeah, I just got a bunch in desert too

[proud mist]

I missed it, someone didn't know what p2w really was? heh

[simple oxide]

Youre crushing sandstone for it? I mean you can just get straight tendonite as a drop from mining granite nodes in the anvils without processing. Its like their version of copper lol

[marsh kelp]

I mean you want longevity too in MMOS right not get all bis in one month

[stoic pecan]

I have no less then 100g in my pocket at all times and still buy tons of mats I'm not a crafter just a smart business woman 🙂

[warped breach]

We should put the RP back into MMORPGs. >.>

[golden sky]

join my guild on vyra lol

[simple oxide]

High key, please teach me your ways. Im always broke.

[languid ivy]

its a byproduct by turning rocks into sand - coal, copper and zinc.
that is why I choose to gather volcanic rokcs because they are easy to find and 5-10 pieces in a single spot.

[stoic pecan]

What's your guild you probably buy my stuff I'm on Vyra lol

[placid forum]

Does a rare rock create a rare mineral? or is it random?

[eternal hemlock]

Gotcha yeah I crushed the sand

[noble sentinel]

you get mats of the same rarity

[golden sky]

Dark Order, dont really buy much stuff atm im just mining everything in sight, lemme know if you wanna buy my legendary rividium lmao

[languid ivy]

for starters its copper, zinc, coal and chance of tendonites. Make sure to process all same rarity like all rare or all epic in a single process.

[dawn needle]

Screw all 'ylall for the next 4 hours
-the devs

[opal cobalt]

can you give some tips?

[storm juniper]

hes still here

[stoic pecan]

I cornered a market that is very profitable and it only cost me like one crate run a day to make 144g 🙂

[warped breach]

damn

[golden sky]

yes a rare rock would produce rare spoils, but its just a chance to get a number of results

[simple oxide]

If you arent on vyra send me a message with what you invested time into? Im seriously stuck when it comes to that stuff lol

[marsh kelp]

Insane numbers holy

[frozen spire]

144g? Share? Lol

[stoic pecan]

Nah I stay out of the riverlands spent too much time there in previous phases but you might catch me around NA from time to time and I'm not ready to start buying leg mats until y'all learn how to bulk price lol

[distant wasp]

do not share that lol

[dawn needle]

Someone of us are the byproduct of a rare work schedulule, and when intrepdis decided to screw us with a 5 hour down time after a long shift, it just emphasises how out of touch they are out of touch with their player base

[warped breach]

Glory to the night crew! Forever screwed by society but always required to be there.

[opal cobalt]

yo.. no, not really. They choose the best time overall to affect least players possible...

[stoic pecan]

I'm on Vyra based out of kt check my shop if you want my secret<3

[frozen spire]

I'm not on vyra

[marsh kelp]

Relax buddy its an alpha they can patch and update whenever ...

[storm juniper]

kinda hoping they decide to fix more and dont go back up till like 8pm eastern

[echo dawn]

Some of us may have a bit of the main character syndrome

[stoic pecan]

I'm cheap AF too no sharing

[warped breach]

honestly, if they wanted to take it down for a day and just go crazy with patching, I'd be down for that.

[golden sky]

prices are simply supply and demand, the market god like you understands that. just cause you dont' wanna pay that much doesn't mean it's not worth it if others will

[frozen spire]

But I got professions to level lol

[marsh kelp]

I hope one day we get shorter downtime between patches

[storm juniper]

err bulk pricing implies plenty of supply, at least i think i heard that sleeping thru econ degree

[rotund flame]

Yeah my money is fluctuating between 300-100g

[simple oxide]

I dont want to be mean but no time is perfect for them. If they do it early morning for US its prime time for EU. If they do it late night people like yourself are affected. Sometimes they just have to do it and get it done. Maybe check back after a month or two when they have less weekly patches. I used to work that late day shift so I get what youre going through but a lot does need fixed and no time is perfect.

[dawn needle]

didnt know it was such a difficult like move the maintenances later like most MMO's to around 4-5AM was such a challenge. I'm so glad you could bring the challenge to my attention, than you so much for explaining the difficulties of the lack of the apperciative time table could force me to move my schedule around.

[warped breach]

I tried this and some dude just came in with mass quantity and severely undercut me. Had to redo my whole market pricing.

[noble sentinel]

Damn, your life is so hard.

[opal cobalt]

you said yourself: "rare work schedule". Check steam numbers. At that time, the playerbase is the lowest pop. So its the best time to make updates. Sucks for you and me, but just accept the truth, instead of calling that "intrepid is out of touch with its playerbase", when its actually the opposite.

[stoic pecan]

That's your first mistake professions are just a money sink atm no one is selling high quality gear and if they are they are asking crazy amounts because they have to rely on one time purchases there's no need to replace anything besides consumables

[golden sky]

i mean yeah you either undercut him back, buy him out, or just wait and see if it was just someone trying to offload super quickly for dirt cheap

[dawn needle]

200g, blam the bots for the price. Actually, don't complain, they'll ban you for doing so

[storm juniper]

this guy been complaining all night, i get off work at 10p eastern and just laughed at this chat and did more work, quality entertainment

[placid forum]

Devs have said 10pm pst is chosen because its when player count starts to dip AND there's a modicum of respect for the development team (west coast) and their sleep schedule.

I still hope they move to 50/50 AM / PM patch schedule to preserve night gaming for west-coasters... or to move to a less-frequent patch schedule.

[warped breach]

Oh I'm trying

[stoic pecan]

Make your price lower than anyone is willing to go lol

[simple oxide]

I have yet to see anyone banned for complaining. Its only been those who have been personally insulting the devs or making threats that have been put on timeout.

[opal cobalt]

yeah but if the move to a less frequent patch schedule, people will complain. More patches = better development cycle and feedback, better for a alpha product.

[marsh kelp]

2026 ...we need 4 hour downtime for an update .. hopefully they improve over time lets hope

[golden sky]

idk I would guess Epic Lithium might be anywhere between 1-3g a piece? I haven't looked it up. It's a gamble because you could get junskosh or iron, or get fucked. thats my slightly-educated guess

[dawn needle]

What did you do today today that felt validating within the worh of the amount of time to spent in time hour todady?

[storm juniper]

sold a half million gallons of gas

[stoic pecan]

I've basically hired people because they were posting mats so low I didn't want to miss out so I paid them more and secured my own miners lol

[golden sky]

im mining a fuck ton, ill sell you all my tendonite

[random geode]

Ok eat the rich

[marsh kelp]

Need to bring back All the ores + current system

[dawn needle]

Shweawk can't explain what gasses when and where he can explain he had available at the time. suspicious as heck.

[stoic pecan]

Processing numbers annoy me too it's about 10:1ish so a hundred granite gets like 10 tendonite if you're lucky( numbers not exact)

[random geode]

Can we get patch notes that are more transparent please? Every week has mystery changes it seems

[storm juniper]

processing time makes me sade, and like the car kind man,

[chrome canyon]

any rune smiths here?

[simple oxide]

I got a good number of materials I need to make my gear set. Then went and challenged people to duels for a couple hours. Had a lot of fun doing that and won all but one fight against a rogue.

Yesterday we had a raid group of around 120 people to move a relic from the desert to miraleth. Pvp happened along the way and a big battle broke out near the city.

You gotta make your own fun in an early access game like this. Its out there.

[stoic pecan]

I only buy heroic and epic preferably epic but not at like 50s a pop

[languid ivy]

Process them in different settlements

[golden sky]

I got a big ass batch of slate and granite crushing when the servers come back up

[random geode]

Some people arent american here

[marsh kelp]

Need a UI to show ur processing at diff settlments i forget

[storm juniper]

Higher tier is faster or just loop around, or both?

[golden sky]

I got a big ass batch of slate and granite crushing when the servers come back up

[drowsy spear]

has the udpate hit yet? my steam button still green

[stoic pecan]

The price to crush slate is stupid too

[random geode]

Okay but its not the medium of exchange for every nation that can speak it. Idk if youve taken foreign language classes but almost no one gets out of those fluent without external exposure. Dont pretend im copimg here.

[simple oxide]

Agreeeeeed

[languid ivy]

They are all same in my observation. You need to invest in elixir, processing shirt, skivvies etc. I usually process heroic and epic volcanic rocks because its byproducts are expensive. So still its a gamble.

[random geode]

To be fair this is such an overreaction to someone saying sail instead of sale

[golden sky]

you are stating facts actual language is acquired through exposure not learned. it is a subconcious process
receipts: I can speak Korean and I'm white

[stoic pecan]

Any t2 or t3 really and the yield is such shit it's not worth it at all I use it for crates because the drop rates better I don't even gather t1 if I can avoid it

[storm juniper]

all i know is i have 100 horses and hope i dont actually have to pay 75s ea to husband them

[golden sky]

you do

[stoic pecan]

Become a citizen somewhere it'll lower it to like 55s lol

[simple oxide]

Honestly can't wait until you can breed animals so they can get better stats lol, so many mounts are just useless and don't sell 😭

[storm juniper]

on second thought, is there a glue recipe?

[stoic pecan]

Husbandry has got to be the worst money sink with no profit margin

[languid ivy]

I don't think its worth it to use horses as a material because it is not useful for some.

[simple oxide]

Horse pies 👀

[golden sky]

but husbandry isn't part of that loop lol

[storm juniper]

they were there, so i took them, cant let some one else get a free horse or 7...

[jolly lagoon]

husbandry has to be one of the best investments i ever made

[languid ivy]

Pallas cat better than horse

[simple oxide]

But you have to mute your audio when you have them out , their sounds are so annoying after a while 😭

[storm juniper]

i only have one of those, found it in the oddest place

[marsh kelp]

But it will eventually stall once everyone has BIS mounts. The only market alive at that stage will be for beasts of burden. Mounts should require food for sprints and skills, and if they are low on food and killed, there should be an RNG chance for your mount to die perma but low chance.

[stoic pecan]

Idk how I look like a sir to you but I did do that loop in the start everyone is wearing heavy armor and tanning is only good because it's needed in BOs and some heavy armor

[opal cobalt]

theres a mountain north west of lionhold for pallas cats.

[languid ivy]

You can find a lot of them in the west side of lionhold.

[stoic pecan]

The Pallas is cute but that noise it makes is unbearable

[simple oxide]

You could make it so that breeding can also result in resources from them like leather, meat, fat and bones. That way they still serve a purpose without needing to lose a mount.

[jolly lagoon]

it would take forever for everyone to have bis mounts. especially at the current spawn rate of some

[golden sky]

the hunting tanning leatherworking loop is -> hunt otters and sell for mega profits, maybe make skivvies. if im wrong you have to give up the strat to prove it

[marsh kelp]

Yeah 100%

[fiery charm]

i park mine by the market to annoy ppl lol

[stoic pecan]

I would assume there's like a gamble like husbandry or hunting like an either mount or car kinda thing but that's just a guess

[dawn needle]

fart fart fart far

[marsh kelp]

ADD FINE SYSTEM FINE PEOPLE USING MOUNTS inside the settlement

[stoic pecan]

I park my hippo at the market to rp wealthy merchant to each their own you know lol

[dawn needle]

GIVE US A JAIL SYSTEM FOR CRAPLORDS WHO ABUSE CORRUPTION

[waxen tapir]

cant park there mate

[golden sky]

I mean shit, at least make high rarity mounts be better in SOME way lmao kinda crazy it doesnt change anything

[tender olive]

i mean inversly would could just do away with the corruption system lol. then no more abuse! lot less work as well!

[storm juniper]

id love a jail system, one time i racked up 1000real time hours in star citizens jail, i ran that yard yo, also may have umm been the de facto uee executioner but i digress

[fiery charm]

ill just ask tanko for the fly cheat hack he seems to know all the cheating methods

[stoic pecan]

It's always been like that and I don't understand why they don't like what's preventing it from being implemented I'm pretty sure theyve said it was supposed to matter

[placid forum]

Did you see the reddit post? Pretty wild. There's also apparently an exploit where a player can be force-flagged for PVP that is used on some servers to kill people crate running. Good thing this stuff is coming up now

[fiery charm]

we dont have jesus we have steven

[marsh kelp]

Tanko was stress testing RMT ... free my boi

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[simple oxide]

Yes it would! You could make corruption more gradual and once you hit tier 1 have it so if you die or get caught by a guard youre sent to Jail after being judged by a jury. Blight could accumulate increasing sentence time and the bounty system could still be in place to catch wanted people. Just remove gear dropping, its killing any incentive to pvp and punishing noobs who get tricked into corruption.

#1462548277080621240 actually put these ideas forward in here lol

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[fiery charm]

ope ive triggered modbot lol

[warped breach]

Fight me Modbot

[karmic whale]

Add a jail system and let us citizens arrest bots

[stoic pecan]

Everyone complains about dropping gear you think they wouldn't rage having to sit in "jail" for a day lol

[tender olive]

wait till someone gets corruption baited and sent to jail as an innocent lol...rofl

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[marsh kelp]

Just people would use alts

[random geode]

Make guild war decs free and in perpetuity unless turned off

[jolly raptor]

im sorry what 👁️ 👄 👁️

[simple oxide]

It worked really well in Archeage. The difference is a time out ≠ a game ender when you drop your best weapon because some asshole ran into the middle of a pvp fight and you tabbed onto him by mistake.

[dawn needle]

JAIL SYSTEM LIKE ARCHEAGE WHEN

[stoic pecan]

Forensic science patch?

[placid forum]

actual playtime, too. Remember Ultima Online murder counts? 8 hours of actual play time per count.

[civic jolt]

Archage pvp system as a whole would be nice improve on the jail and pirate system unstead of trying to recreate a wheel with the whole corruption debacle

[marsh kelp]

War decs without consequences ?

[fiery charm]

we need red and black zones like albion or time gated pvp zones - some peace time some pvp

[little condor]

Corruption is nice I would like the archeage pirate stuff tho for sure

[stoic pecan]

Put them in the stocks let us throw droppings at them we win, more content, maybe a fun mini game to go with it

[sharp ember]

https://tenor.com/view/get-back-to-cage-national-geographic-yukon-vet-treating-a-coughing-cat-lets-go-back-gif-24914209

[civic jolt]

Yeah lost my mace that way cause a guild ran with lowbies in the middle of fights to corruption bait lol its so dumb lol

[sharp ember]

Bad bot

[random geode]

There are no consequences regardless outside of financial. I think if you dont like a group you should be able to express that. This would tense up the openworld too.

[slate egret]

for my server, jury would mark them innocent and move on or they'd get minimum time. When you let players police themselves a bit, it does what a binary karma system could never achieve

[marsh kelp]

Albion like zones would help alot too .. we should be testing these things in alpha

[dawn needle]

I'm a bit controversial with saying guild declarations with being legitimate forms of pack thefts and PVP as long as the gold sink outweighs the intitiative

[random geode]

Free war decs would also mitigate griefing. Because if someone is grieding me and theyre in a guild instant dec tben solve the problem with your fists. Way better.

[magic cradle]

anyone got patch notes link? they forgot it in the news post

[simple oxide]

My friend Riot lost a 100g sword exactly like that, asshats had alts run in during the fight. Tabbed onto it by mistake and boom corrupted.

[stoic pecan]

MO2 had a similar system people just stayed logged in inside keeps until they got aired thru the wall lol

[dawn needle]

AKA, if a guild declares on you, you reap the deficits of the war, as opposed to being randomly flagged with packs. as long as the declaration is worth the gold intiation cost

[civic jolt]

Jury could be based on the closest zoi that they died at citizens some nodes might be more lenient than others

[placid forum]

Oh reds would idle their counts in UO for sure. I miss the peak of that game before T2A... old memories but man what a fun game. Bring back stealing TBH. Imagine how much busier other towns would be if Joeva was full of rogues who could pickpocket your legendary logs

[civic jolt]

Well this guild had 10 25s and then 2 naked lowbies in there for collateral dmg like intentional, not random dude running though

[marsh kelp]

Jury filled with guild members that would favor their alliance no ?

[languid ivy]

100 mins more

[stoic pecan]

The zerg guilds would abuse this there was a time where big guilds would declare on every little guild and just rack up the rewards

[placid forum]

Don't get too excited about a 2 bullet point patch note after a 4 hour downtime.

[civic jolt]

Dont include guilies as an option when putting jury together

[fiery charm]

yeah 2.5 there was a perpetual time of constant war when it was basically free)

[smoky ocean]

VERY EASY to fix that

[languid ivy]

freshly spawn trees are waiting to get axed 😄 . Will try to hunt more willow later.

[random geode]

Then remove rewards. I think more pvp is good.

[dawn needle]

Touch my tree for more proc chance big boy

[marsh kelp]

yeah guild wars should have a cost.. not free war decs..maybe adding wagers for the timebeing as more systems are developed

[oblique violet]

I feel you that eddledom will feel the wrath of my axe mwhahahaha

[summer field]

hellooooo, 10:00 already, servers die?

[stoic pecan]

I never played UO it was too old for me when I started gaming plus I hate 2d too down view but I played a ton of MO2 and it was literally an attempt to remake and recapture uos gameplay and community

[simple oxide]

Yeah exactly, shit is way too easy to abuse right now. Its a good deterent though... just for all pvp. Which is one of the many reasons no one wants to pvp in this iteration. 😅

[civic jolt]

Guild wats need to last much longer too shorter the time benefits zergs since they just zerg the whole duration, kill required to win should be based on guild size too larger guilds need more kills

[dawn needle]

Servers literally down for useless maintenance Slide

[fiery charm]

i like this idea - gives the fight meaning ( as long as anyone that logs off from either group counts as a death) so they cant get one kill then all log off to win

[stuck matrix]

Hey guys, just had a question about my cosmetic capes that i have recieved some time ago... Since it went live on steam, I have no recieved my capes in my mailbox. Is there anyway to obtain them outside of that?

[random geode]

I think a lot of people want pvp.

[placid forum]

I played UO in the beta. I keep my sub active, tbh. 29 years.

[stoic pecan]

I thought only guilds could war dec other guilds or are you talking about like node war?

[pale schooner]

Yeah this new invention called waiting

[simple oxide]

They do! I am one of them. But the risk of losing gear just kinda throws cold water on it.

[warped breach]

I don't know about you guys, but I have a new found respect for Modbot after it reacted to my challenge. Modbot is no coward.

[marsh kelp]

Guild wars need rally/ capture points or something too so logout issue will matter but not as much

[dawn needle]

You can try to contact support for them but I've been waiting since 2018 for my cosmetics...

[random geode]

Exactly why guild wars should be free or heavily cheaper. You wont corrupt in a guild war. Thus more pvp more player driven content. More fun

[stoic pecan]

I heard it was great and loved the systems even tho MO2 wasn't the best it basically copied everything system lol

[pale schooner]

Yeah because they aren't implemented yet because they're low priority

[rotund jetty]

I'd prefer structured PvP like queuing in arenas with large groups or instanced battles. Open world PvP just devolves into who has the bigger group? If your group is smaller you run away, if it's bigger you chase. Nothing more.

[tender olive]

lets get them patch notes aye?

[simple oxide]

Exactly bro, I actually have that suggestion in #1462548277080621240

[random geode]

I do too but this is not that type of game. They are making arenas though.

[stuck matrix]

They are implimented, there are people running all over hell with the capes that i have in my account since i purchased my support pack way back when, and i had them before it went into EA, so thats why im asking.

[marsh kelp]

Castle sieges would be nice 😔

[rotund jetty]

Arenas do kind of fit, they could even do tournaments on a regular schedule as part of a town upgrade or something with some bets and rewards.

[stoic pecan]

I prefer the option to do either for that reason

[odd plaza]

Anybody try mage w heavy armor?

[random geode]

Holy tldr haha @rotund jetty we just need something to keep us busy while were waiting for more content tbh only playing econ whenever i get on can get boring...

[stoic pecan]

A physical arena would be great where you can spectate and gamble

[fiery charm]

i have a guide for mage on my twitch same handle as here

[pale schooner]

A bunch of those cosmetics are just implemented as the base look for items

@rotund jetty You probably should have researched the game more before backing it then

[marsh kelp]

gambling area where u buy lottery tickets , player poker with others and wager gold , mount racing and gamba

[odd plaza]

Cool westmsne, just wondering bc I mostly will be playing heavy armor characters that's why

[rotund jetty]

I backed it during kickstarter and the only open world pvp they talked about was either based on area or for large caravans.

[warped breach]

Did someone say Gold Saucer?

[stuck matrix]

Brother, if you dont know the answer, just dont answer. Its not hard.

[tiny tusk]

when is erp coming in ashes

[stoic pecan]

Is anyone not wearing heavy?

[pale schooner]

Fucked up that that's provably wrong by just looking at the kickstarter and early dev stream footage but good attempt

[languid ivy]

there is a heavy armor set for mage/magic type

[tiny tusk]

there are several leather sets that are super strong in terms of power numbers but hunting and leatherworking is such stupid ass artisan they will never get made in a long time

[stoic pecan]

Mount racing would be awesome and give husbandry and farming life again, let us fight BOBs like Pokemon lol

[spark jackal]

yeah i wear graveplate and petal on my mage. graveplate set in rare is like 30-40g

[odd plaza]

Good to know, just wanted to make sure it wasn't super obscure and impossible to get

[warped breach]

I am wearing the radiant scraps I picked up just prior to hitting 20. I spent all my money on a big shiny sword to over compensate for my insecurities.

[fiery charm]

its actually meta

[marsh kelp]

Hunting is cancer, hopefully they focus on that first

[languid ivy]

It's a bit expensive even the uncommon ones, I think its the Bloomwarden Heavy armor set but Im not totally sure. Gonna check it out later.

[stoic pecan]

Idk about bis but I know options do exist

[spark jackal]

its bad because the hunting spots die after like 12 hrs until they restart, i did JM hunting in 2 days

[odd plaza]

I see I see

[marsh kelp]

Yeah the whole petting system too. ... I want to kill and skin or someshit

[tiny tusk]

there is only one place to reliably hunt raven, and its not in a fun way at all

[warped breach]

just imagine you are petting them with violence

[dawn needle]

hopefully once of the major patches addreses hunting. they need to fix in-game mechanics to keep the current playerbase happy,

[stoic pecan]

I took the opposite approach went armor first since I'm pretty much a pacifist lol

[untold anchor]

heavy petting

[simple oxide]

TLDR: We need rebalancing of gear, a rework of corruption to be more gradual and instead of gear drops on death have a jail/jury system like in Archeage, structured pvp loops and pve loops such as caravan runs that incentivize and reward risk (at the moment its all risk no reward), rotating lawless zones based on node territory that boost drop rates, xp, crate gold runs... and psudo factions based on node citizenship where members of the same node can't attack each other outside of guild wars and node sieges (vassal vs parent node) but can fight citizens of rival nodes.

[tiny tusk]

if killing a bunch of lv 5 ravens that respawns every 15 second is steven's "friction" i cant imagine what they think up next

[spark jackal]

mage should be forced into light gear with upsides like manaregen [...]

[warped breach]

I figured weapon meant I could deal with any problem child below 20.

[fiery charm]

gross

[tiny tusk]

looting now has 3 second animation time 😏

[marsh kelp]

Not every system needs friction tho

[stoic pecan]

Idk why this isn't the system like it makes logical sense and works in every other game

[simple oxide]

to make this viable you would need to have light gear with constitution as a secondary stat... you're literally a low hp paper bag in that shit

[dawn needle]

PVP in this game is nothing but naked 25's with trash weapons killing crate runners and training mobs on groups in places like steel bloom/carphin in order to grief. the game is in a bad place right now for end game. I know they're in an alpha stat but they need something to keep hardcore players busy aside from griefing.

[static glen]

I can't believe the placeholder skinning is placeholder

[tiny tusk]

what ISNT a placeholder in this game

[simple oxide]

honestly curious of what you think of my ideas then man #1462548277080621240 I really hope the devs consider them so the more traction it gets the better

[dawn needle]

As if they couldnt' push an update to update the mechanics.

[granite snow]

weapon types could use some more thought. No one's using daggers, everyone's playing with two handers no matter the class fantasy etc, physical books and focuses, a bit more cohesion would be good.

[stoic pecan]

The bonuses from the gear do way more for you then your weapon as long as it's appropriate tier for you it'll do the job I'm running around with a random radiant axe because it was the only one on the market when I hit 20

[arctic helm]

wasd movement.

[warped breach]

Whereabouts do these trash 25's do their ambushing?

[hot cloak]

i feel like daggers are decent on fighter

[simple oxide]

unfortunately for RP players like yourself who enjoy immersion.. people will always find what works best and use that lol

[stoic pecan]

25 is meant to be the halfway point not end game that's why there isn't an end game. We don't have the end of the game lol

[fiery charm]

i thought so too until i realized how long it took to get the wep finisher off with dag

[tender olive]

or is it....its possible they condensed everything down...ilvl 29 gear could litterally be our lvl 50 end game gear...

[dawn needle]

They could update animals to have a trap mechanic, that would either proc aggression or trapment. Then turn that trapped mob material either in husbandry or butcher. It's not a complicated mechanic. Hell, you could probably ask GROK or Chat GPT for a code that would set it up for you.

[granite snow]

you don't have to be an RP player to be surprised by the current gear progression

[simple oxide]

i guess but having played games like Dark Souls, Elden Ring, etc - metas will always form with weapon type.

[fiery charm]

ive had this same thought and hope it isnt the case.

[hot cloak]

like an hour and a half until servers turn on when do patch notes release, Im enjoying playing the different classes while the game is only at 25

[marsh kelp]

They need to reduce bow accuracy and give Rangers a flat accuracy passive buff. That way, unless you have an accuracy-focused gear setup, you can’t use a bow effectively. As a Ranger, I’m tired of seeing everyone use my precious bow

[balmy fog]

1h20 left still no update on steam yet, looks like they broke something this time tsk tsk

[tender olive]

well...ilvl 29 gear does take a Grand master bench to make right? nothing past that so if there was more gear lvls past ilvl 29 stuff then....

[rotund jetty]

Just watched the kickstarter vid. The mentions of PvP was regarding guild wars, castle system, node siege, caravan, and battle grounds. No mentions of open PvP everywhere, just mostly structured PvP. Maybe go back and look yourself?

[opal flower]

Hate the wait

[warped breach]

I hope the next thing that breaks gives me super powers.

[stoic pecan]

For the most part weapons are basically just stat sticks auto attack isn't a huge part of most builds(correct me if I'm wrong). I agree tho things need balancing but we won't see those kinda changes for a long time

[simple oxide]

I think they will just give us variants of the current gear with higher power levels lol. I do like the amount of variance you have currently and the different builds you can make. I've found some very viable and unique builds outside of the current meta of heavy armor

[dawn needle]

Here's how hunting should work: Find a mob, weaken it, use item to give trap change. If successful, give the mob as an item that could either be used towards husbandry or butchery/cooking. EZ fuggin PZ mechanics.

[elfin yarrow]

it currently works that way but people are sleeping on evasion as a stat... it's better than defense if you build around it

[balmy fog]

sued by nintendo

[marsh kelp]

Need different kind of gems in the game too

[arctic helm]

👀

[dawn needle]

Nintendo lost that lawsuit against palworld. they said it was too vague

[simple oxide]

or different uses for gems - e.g. magically enhancing gems and using them to slot into gear to add extra stats or unique benefits

[tender olive]

i think we might be seeing novice gear till lvl 20 in the future, and adept 20-30, then ilvl 23, 26,29 increase the rest of the levels respectivly...no proof of this really other than it would add some use for crafting novice and adept gear

[stoic pecan]

I doubt that we haven't even been able to make r5 towns yet

[marsh kelp]

yeah gem encourages more build variety

[balmy fog]

kindof, they had to change the capture/summon mechanic and remove pal gliding. And even a small win gives them a precedent

[hot cloak]

do we have any information on what the r5 towns will look like?

[dawn needle]

they swapped it prior to the lawsuit to be safe, but nintendo still lost the suit after the fact

[tender olive]

i dont see how r5 towns would be needed with the systems they already have in place, its just condensed down, not all lvls in, but all gear tiers condensed for estings purposes...its very possible

[dusky linden]

word has it, when you go there you just fall for 30minutes then disconnect

[marsh kelp]

Ik its alpha and all but god dammn settlments look ugly as hell, even the layout ..

[stoic pecan]

Nothing besides early interviews with Stephen I believe but the big thing is portals between scientific nodes

[granite snow]

that's exactly it. Folks are choosing weapons based on stat lines, regardless of type. Most games solve that by having swing times and DPS diviation.

[dawn needle]

We don't have freeholds or tier 5 cities. Could you imagine the glorious food buffs we could see with freeholds?

[simple oxide]

r5 towns would have better defensive structures for node siege wars, more options for crafting, more relic slots, etc.

[hot cloak]

portals between nodes would be such a great way to integrate fast travel

[rotund jetty]

Portals sound cool, wonder if the town gets to charge for usage if you're not a citizen,

[civic skiff]

Fast travel would ruin the whole point of the game - LOCATION.

[hearty pebble]

Who's ready for another week with lots of downtime and a patchnote with only 2 minor changes?

[stoic pecan]

Building placement is terrible prime examples kt weaving and farming bench or the 90% empty space in r4towns

[placid forum]

ONLY IF ALL OF THE PATCHES ARE 10PM PST

[dire nova]

brosssss Restart Steam Update ready to dowloadddddd

[simple oxide]

there are always hidden changes - fun part is figuring out what they did lol

[balmy fog]

idk why the devs don't let us read patchnotes while we wait smh

[tender olive]

not required for what there doing with gear...we already have access to GM benches which is max lvl bench for crafting...the rest of that is outside the realm of relevance for what was being discussed.

[hearty pebble]

Depends on where you are in the world bro.

[stoic pecan]

Id assume it would be like wow gryphons or something like a travel fee based on destination

[brazen moon]

Steam update available

[signal hinge]

downloading update

[marsh kelp]

I think its fun for them too to find out what they did

[hot cloak]

dont see an update

[crude axle]

2gb update

[placid forum]

The real gamble is ... do the developers even know what they did?

[balmy fog]

The auto deletion of photos is crazy, just disable media for the channel lol

[fiery charm]

anyone esle cringe at the time played before each steam update lol i play to much

[hushed barn]

same i dont see one either

[granite snow]

there is a middle ground between fast travel and running sim, and it's called auto path. You mark a spot on the map and the game will suggest the path to that mark. Your character will move there using roads. Players can interact with your character, but you may AFK between travels, if you choose so.

[hardy bough]

restart steam

[sand wing]

update is there, reload steam

[marsh kelp]

restart steam chan

[burnt bloom]

surely have a bit more on this update

[simple oxide]

as for initiate and adept tiers or other tiers that slowly get passed as people lvl to 50 - this is my idea which is in #1462548277080621240

"If anything I would recommend a mechanic similar to Mayoral Buy Orders that lets players donate weapon, gear, etc to the node in exchange for scripts or gold. I would also recommend allowing us to make long distance caravan only crates that you could stuff with gear that is no longer usefull in exchange for higher rewards.

This would in turn act as a gear sink to help reduce item inflation but also just make it so the lower tier recipies don't become useless after the first week or so of the server life. "

[warped breach]

There never was a steam, the update was in you all along.

[balmy fog]

update is .... in me?

[dawn needle]

oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[crude axle]

HOw many hours do you got?

[hushed barn]

still no update

[languid ivy]

bot if flagging photos lol. I'll dm it.

[pliant flicker]

Let's goo!

[marsh kelp]

Two page PHD thesis on risk vs reward and dynamic world incoming

[fiery charm]

about 1k

[crude axle]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-disgust-rude-lie-liar-gif-5884411

[balmy fog]

update-chan, you're bigger than normal (2gb instead of 1.9gb crazy content drop incoming)

[hushed barn]

update is downloading now

[dawn needle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/broadwaysnexthitmusical-where-are-you-broadways-next-hit-musical-xT0xelxqiNpmdJNOPS

[simple oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/blush-anime-shy-cute-girl-gif-14495627569314612221

[marsh kelp]

I like that buy order thing and also needs to be tied to enchanting, maybe u can extract essese from any gear ( Higher RNG chance on higher tiers ) and esesse is used for enchanting , enchanting is much cheaper but it fades after lets say 20 repairs so its always in somehwhat demand

[stoic pecan]

Has it even been on steam long enough for that there's no way you've been on 400more hours than me I play like 16-18hours a day many times Ive gone a few days no sleep I'm calling bs

[torpid tulip]

patching

[simple oxide]

hellll yes bro, now we're cooking. Honestly there are some good ideas man - please add that into #1462548277080621240 so they see it.

[surreal turret]

any patch notes yet?

[dawn needle]

4 hour maintenace probably for another trash advantage for early mechanic abusers I bet

[sand wing]

i have 497 hours, and i didnt start playuing until dec 27 lol

[signal hinge]

at least your in North America Homeless guy thats what the NA means right?

[balmy fog]

1000h is 41.6 days. If you leave it open fishing all the time I can see that lol

[hot cloak]

I thought i needed to slow down hitting 100 hours today

[granite snow]

1000 hears since Steam release is suspect ngl

[crude axle]

I really need to step my hours up. I only got like 200hr lol xD

[fiery charm]

i had work vaca lol 🫣

[river fern]

alot of afk fishing/open on the launcher

[rotund jetty]

People just leave the launcher running...

[simple oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-south-park-s20e4-wieners-out-typing-gif-20669319

[balmy fog]

the hours is also measured from the launcher btw not the actual game, so game could be closed and launcher left open

[dawn needle]

No reason to rush to lvl 25 unless youre a trashcan who likes to brag and act as a trashcan player who griefs others in the current state of the alpha

[stoic pecan]

I have 601 you sir need to get up and stretch

[hushed barn]

36.3hrs here 😄

[languid ivy]

Mine is 425 hours, 400 of that is fishing and the rest are gathering rocks and few grinds 😄

[sand wing]

everyone knows this is just gathering simulator.

[granite snow]

oh yeah, if the launcher counts, that's different

[crude axle]

200hrs and not even lvl 25 yet xD and like 3 gold to my name

[maiden garnet]

patching

[simple oxide]

👀

[stoic pecan]

This is the real reason most people's numbers are so high

[hushed barn]

36.3hrs and not even lvl 10 yet LMAO

[hot cloak]

is server already online?

[torpid tulip]

640 hours here, after each patch I go through all of my posted bugs and refresh them if they still exist.

[languid ivy]

425, and the .6? falling from the ground after I log in 😄

[balmy fog]

lol yeah almost level 18 with 172h. Have had ~30g at one point, sitting on like 60s atm but few crates/etc prepped and stuff bought recently. Hitting rocks from level 7 mostly

[sudden gale]

fishing simulator, Archeage clone xD

[signal hinge]

One day I managed to get in before they had all the servers up only 2 were up and one happened to be mine

[languid fossil]

.....JK thats rocket League.. and i quit so it was all a waste

[simple oxide]

I actually really miss fishing pvp in Archeage 😭 ramming my galleon into a bunch of fishing boats and watching them sink as me and my crew hopped out was peak gameplay

[crude axle]

I just am a people please, so I main tank and I always off tank for fun when I get bored. Litearlly will go to church and pull everything and off tank for a group of 7 dps n 1 healer.

[stoic pecan]

600 and I'm only lvl 23 there's nothing special waiting at 25 but it can be done in a couple weeks I think 1-25 if you're a real sweat

[fiery charm]

https://tenor.com/view/seven-deadly-sins-laughing-the-gif-1791709131432348293

[balmy fog]

Yeah I would be level 16 but with more rocks if my guild didnt want a tank every so often 🙂

[empty birch]

Same, I’m perpetually a tank in any game or mmo lmao

[simple oxide]

honestly its an alpha, taking your time and exploring is the way to do it - people are burning out because yeah the game isn't finished yet so why not enjoy the ride to 25

[sudden gale]

same, was so much fun haha

[short tinsel]

i think they dont want to do this long hours maintenence aswell

[noble sentinel]

I am a support/healer main for similar reasons

[magic cradle]

Just getting fishing to lvl 50 gets your char level to 13

[dawn needle]

We could always use most tanks in our guild. We aren't predominant pvp but we always welcome all classes

[short tinsel]

and i also think they dont tell us why they do it because we would be in fucking awe and quit because how the problem arose in the first place

[stoic pecan]

Agreed go explore the map learn spawns you can hit 25 just processing lvling isn't that hard people just don't know what they are doing imo

[marsh kelp]

Btw Mayoral order and also Node buy orders ( idk if its already there ) would help :P

[simple oxide]

I'm a healer... but I don't heal... I murder

[odd plaza]

I'm a tank but I want to learn cleric to be a better tank

[empty birch]

That and when you’re too focused on leveling I feel it’s slower than it rly is, specially the “milestone” hurdles of like lvl 9-10 and 19-20

[hushed barn]

bald here and always get my ass kicked bc idk what im doing trying to solo everything D:

[dawn needle]

<Infamous> is always recruiting good players, we're looking for more tanks/healers

[crude axle]

I love my tank. Cant wait to archtype into cleric to be a paladin or double arch type into Tank.

[languid fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-seven-deadly-sins-meliodas-ban-handshake-gif-26202684

[odd plaza]

What server?

[marsh kelp]

Are you non-stop raging there too brother

[simple oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/khorne-skulls-for-the-skull-throne-blood-for-the-blood-god-gif-18272573

[empty birch]

Same, curious about both and I hope we can change our second one at will. I rly wanna try out both combinations

[dawn needle]

Shol, keep in mind we're not hardcore but we try to keep something going on every night

[stoic pecan]

1-10is a couple hours if that 11-20maybe a couple days with the right knowledge

[odd plaza]

Hmmm, I'm on Vyra, thinking about starting my own guild tbh

[dawn needle]

No I just drink too much and get passionate sometimes XD

[stoic pecan]

20-25 you'll get refining mats for your gear lol

[empty birch]

Yea, if you can go to less over camped spots I feel you can hit 1-20 in like 24h played or less maybe

[fiery charm]

i have a toon on vyra and one on resna on my main account i prefer vyra tbh its very chill

[crude axle]

ayyee Im in Vyra

[storm juniper]

i have a goal to level up a char purly from choppin trees and rocks

[odd plaza]

I love Vyra! Super chill and friendly

[surreal turret]

shol is the fkn hood man..

[marsh kelp]

Hopefully Occasional drinking

[fiery charm]

nah man resna is like detroit theu dupers and hackers all over

[simple oxide]

2.3gb update tho? O.o

[stoic pecan]

Grinding mobs isn't the way to do it unless you have a solid group that can handle the highest mobs possible

[languid fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-gif-19592731

[empty birch]

I mean if you sell mats, process and craft you’ll make some good money too while leveling that way

[tepid mesa]

servers up!

[dawn needle]

Absolutely, its only on my days off, as I work 12 hour work days

[storm juniper]

gifs are back that means game is up soon

[languid turtle]

Patch notes: Fixed 2 spelling errors

[steel loom]

lol

[patent anchor]

2.3go => 3 words in patch note

[stoic pecan]

I'm pretty much there besides what I kill for flint to buy my crates and the over aggressive wildlife that won't let me gather on peace

[empty birch]

That’s why it helps I’m a main tank and we got a main healer too, just need the dps 😂

[balmy fog]

it does often feel lackluster though doesn't it. They won't share patch notes until after downtime then it's like 'moved a rock to touch the grass in one specific spot. Also some server fixes (unspecified)'

I don't doubt they are working on things they just are not adding yet, but they don't mention any of it so it just looks silly haha

[surreal turret]

patch notes: Increased experiance needed to level characters and all professions by 500%

[tepid mesa]

i meant SERVERS UP TO NO GOOD

[civic skiff]

It's very odd - HUGE patches for TINY fixes

[dawn needle]

Patch Notes: Sneezed on the servers, wiped off surface and rebooted. Took 5 hours

[onyx summit]

And then rollback

[marsh kelp]

truth hurts

[simple oxide]

man I would love some detailed patch notes lol

[steel loom]

they patched almost 2gb but the patch itself so minor lmao waste of memory

[tepid mesa]

2nd class and housing this patch woooo i'll pretend and die inside a little

[magic cradle]

they dont post every fix. like terrain fixes and such. and those can take up some space

[surreal turret]

man people are so cruel in this game, i couldn't get into a church group just because of my name 🙁

[leaden lake]

1.8g/1.9g its allways the same amount

[dawn needle]

Hopefully when they lock in a version of Unreal Engine it won't be a major issue

[storm juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[stoic pecan]

It's all very boring to me even with a good group just the same pull over and over but that's my preference

[limber condor]

no one told you you have to patch. theres an uninstall button

[fleet stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/leak-leaks-flex-seal-flex-seal-gif-15158221

[balmy fog]

regular patch size is 1.9gb for me, 2.0gb this time. It's such a big file because the patches alter the main files and they don't have condensed file updating in place

[steel loom]

i really wish this game will be big once it officialy released, keep working hard guys!!

[elfin yarrow]

You need to update to use the uninstall option tho

[noble sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-jump-off-building-fall-funny-meme-muppets-gif-14063433686662745790

[languid fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/intensifies-sooning-soontm-midsizedonkey7-nowhere-gif-12050318

[rain oxide]

this chat is fukn AWESOME ! ahing a blast following

[surreal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[storm juniper]

dont joke, AGS did this during new world NDA at least 2x

[rain oxide]

patch notes for super small fixes is a waste of time

[torpid tulip]

Did they finally add verification of files automatically to the update process? The past couple patches have been clean.

[stoic pecan]

I'd be happy with a fix for eddeldom not vendoring correctly Im missing out on so much easy money

[surreal turret]

god i miss new world

[tepid mesa]

the title of this song is scientifically accurate https://youtu.be/lHkNmukhbbw?si=trDBEZoqUFferd-n

[fleet stratus]

YOU ARE VENDORING EDDLEDORN?!?

[dawn needle]

I just want them to fix the bullshit chinese flying bots and I'll have faith in the dev team

[storm juniper]

gotta keep prices high

[empty birch]

That’s fair, I can’t do it for hours on end anymore either, need some variation. That’s why it’s good I kind of enjoy the gathering in this game too, just the crafting is a bit tedious and massive at times

[rain oxide]

go and play new world lol!!

[elfin yarrow]

They don't say a lot of the real changes they are doing. You don't advertise stuff like the fact you added and tuned some bot detection etc. They making big changes sometimes and playing it off as minor updates.

[wild thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/chop-chop-hurry-up-gif-26024872

[surreal turret]

theres like 6 people who play it now lol

[granite snow]

New World has a road map ... until they shut down the servers forever

[languid fossil]

bout to reinstall new world while i wait so 7

[stoic pecan]

Yea the white it's not exactly hard to find

[dawn needle]

I'm surprised they left new world map servers up, literally on life support like the last year of archeage was. Maybe there is private servers for new world

[fleet stratus]

you are a monster, and i hate you with every fiber of my being...

[tiny tusk]

2gb patch so im guessing about 2 lines of update

[empty birch]

I mean you got a few more days you can play it lmao

[marsh kelp]

Thesis about Risk vs Reward and dynamic world incoming

[torpid tulip]

idk, this is 1h longer than normal patch maintenances, hopeing more than 3 lines

[languid turtle]

Gotta keep supply low so my shit sells

[stoic pecan]

That's why I kinda dabble in a few things that all work together

[elfin yarrow]

That line of code had a lot of emojis in their defense.

[rain oxide]

think they are doing work and we will see in next big update

[surreal turret]

logged on to new world last week during a downtime for ashes, ther was one dude in the city. i was like...bro... why are you here? he was like "i dont even know man"

[fleet stratus]

DUDE I'M SO HAPPY FISHING BARELY PAYS FOR THE LURES, WE DON'T NEED AN UPDATE GUYS

[dawn needle]

I'll believe it when I see it. It's time for the next livestream to update us on the progress of the alpha

[languid fossil]

They shoulve just sold new world tbh, i didnt mind it much, however i didnt actually make it to end game, Very close tho

[empty birch]

I mean didn’t they mention they want it on ptr first, so it’s gonna be a bit still

[odd plaza]

What's more fun, rogue or bard?

[stoic pecan]

I put my leg eddel in crates along with the rest:) Rip you're gear dreams:P

[signal hinge]

ranger

[hardy stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-13465728489229726846

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/dredd-burn-watching-apathy-karl-urban-gif-20285124

[fleet stratus]

as someone who has ONLY played these 2.... i can confidently say ROGUE 99% of the time... and BARD 1% when you have UPPIES and the GROUP appreciates you...

[dawn needle]

Bard is much more sought after for group play but rogue is stupid useful in open world pvp

[surreal turret]

bard is for single dads who like to drink and listen to creed while they giga speed farm trees, Rogues are for people who liter and double park

[sturdy zephyr]

Ashes is already the greatest game in the world. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar! Ashes forever and ever!

[rain oxide]

just if u have something to show and tell if done or will be finished shortly main goal should be to get stuff done or not ?

[signal hinge]

Ashes Ashes we all fall down

[elfin yarrow]

mages are for guys who lost their chance at kids due to wow addiction

[dapper sierra]

Terrain fix?🤣🤣 I literally fell of the map yesterday in desert because of terrain ended 🤣

[granite snow]

Rogue has grapple hooks, 'nuff said

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/basedgod-lil-b-lilb-gif-8522896133463633765

[dawn needle]

Both are good for long term to be honest. It's about what you want to contribute

[odd plaza]

This is so funny! The replies are helpful guys. I think it sounds like rogue is way more fun

[fleet stratus]

"people who liter"

[wild thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-annoying-devs-gif-15046706624580118605

[stoic pecan]

Mages should be pretty strong with the heavy meta right? Their procs were already crazy

[rain oxide]

depends on what u feel while playing or wanna feel i like Rouge more plays more the way i wanna

[storm juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-robot-pincers-gif-17376524

[tawny remnant]

I haf a 15 bard and a 16 rogue, both lvled 100% solo. Bard is okay, but killing anything solo takes forever. My 16 rogue can take down lvl 20 mobs already, and bard has a hard time with lvl 15s

[fleet stratus]

yeah do that, until you face the other mages and regret everything

[rich berry]

https://tenor.com/view/closing-computer-gif-20473382

[vivid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/ultima-online-t2a-uot2a-gif-21700442

[dawn needle]

Rogue has a lot of complexity/flexibility but bard is VERY useful for keeping groups alive and viable during group content

[surreal turret]

Mages are for guys and girls who read smut books like AcoTar, Clerics are for chicks who drink white claw and beat thir bfs. Fighters are gym rats who cant read and rangers are dudes who trade cripto currency

[elfin yarrow]

DOO DOOO DODO OODOO DOOO DOOO stones playing

[stoic pecan]

Well tah makes sense but if mages wore cloth they'd have the mag resist

[granite snow]

Bard is the class people stack in group PvP. Rogue is the class that kills Bards in group PvP. Take it as you will

[odd plaza]

I see! Is bard just basically a buff spam bot?

[dawn needle]

Bard keeps people alive, rogue murders them.

[languid fossil]

what if the cleric is a dude

[civic skiff]

I'd like to see a Rogue class that uses Rouge as a skill - maybe disguise, or flinging red powder in enemies' eyes 🙂

[fleet stratus]

M E D I U M for everyone

[ocean phoenix]

bard is the class that is better than every other class at every other thing 😄

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-bravo-muscle-flex-chest-gif-5358021798517079088

[surreal turret]

thats illegal i belive

[civic jolt]

and io would like to see a ranger class that isnt a 2nd mage (caster class)

[tame lava]

I've been using a book for my main weapon on Bard. Is that best or would pivoting to wand be better?

[stoic pecan]

Gl with that not enough of either defense to matter just makes you weak to everyone lol

[fleet stratus]

IS THAT MY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER?!?

[surreal turret]

and summoners are the dudes who were warlock mains in wow who make a living scalping pokemon cards and discord mods

[granite snow]

need the hunting rework before anyone can reasonably consider crafting high grade medium gear

[jovial terrace]

wand and long bow single target/pvp // book pve

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/mikefoster-funguy-mikefoster-funguy-gif-26014498

[ocean phoenix]

plz give us pvp first

[torpid tulip]

I use book as well, love it ms

[civic jolt]

summoners feel so useless in the water too pets sp bad 😄

[stoic pecan]

Barda are only so popular in groups because of the mana Regen imo

[dawn needle]

Truth. It's a less viable versus heavy or light gear in this phase

[tame lava]

Can confirm, I feel used and abused in groups as a bard just being a mana sink. lol

[rich berry]

my ranked teammates

[fleet stratus]

YOU CANNOT discount the Menacing Melody.... unless you have like 50hrs played and are simply ignorant... then that is okay

[odd plaza]

Clearly not a controversial opinion LOL

[jovial terrace]

15% damage+ Melody and nimble dance which provides instant 4 ticks of removing stun/crippled/ etc

[obtuse bloom]

we need hover pets fr fr

[surreal turret]

Average bard experience, not a care in the world. Unbothered. Thriving

[dawn needle]

I can tell you we always appreciate the extra mana

[surreal tulip]

Nah man I love hunting 1636 raven carcasses with 1 spawning every 6 minutes being contested by 6 guys.

[storm juniper]

i should reroll bard this sounds chill

[civic jolt]

im just hoping they get a less pet dependant version when archtypes r a thing

[slim fjord]

pvp is utterly broken. not getting corruption when attacking someone who then dies from a mob for example needs fixing.
caravans need a huge buff and crateruns a slight nerf
make consentive pvp worth again

[stoic pecan]

I've never played one I'm not much of support player I'm much more jump in and spin lol

[granite snow]

have you considered hunting drugged cows instead?

[obtuse bloom]

would be nice to have the variety forsure. Would be cool to also have more pet dependent specs too, if they can sort out the pet issues

[wooden cave]

Make Caravans Great Again

[dawn needle]

I can agree. the current version of PVP is based on abusing poorly designed mechanics.

[storm juniper]

i feel like PVP with consent is just a duel...

[odd plaza]

I can only have 5 classes. It's tank, fighter, mage, cleric, and then I have to choose between bard or rogue....

[surreal tulip]

hunting my first cousin would be crazy

[stoic pecan]

It's a big map explore it's not crowded everywhere

[fleet stratus]

1 carcass = 1/3 LEATHER really bothers me... and the SIZES of these things?!? a SPIDER is bigger than trees, an ARMOR PLATING is smaller than FLOWERS?!? just BAFFLING decisions on ui and inventory

[wooden cave]

there are bots everywhere

[civic jolt]

there a reason u dont build leather armor atm :p

[slim fjord]

a duel where both sides lose thanks to 25% drops being deleted instead of just dropped

[storm juniper]

the legs only fold once hard to store, seems legit

[dawn needle]

There's tons of spots to farm grems/ravens. I will agree that farming wolves is a pain in the dick thogh

[languid ivy]

spider = rocks
flower is 1/3 of woods 😄

[hushed barn]

which is better? a dmging bard or a dmging cleric?

[civic skiff]

Stack limits are silly and un-necessary - I've seen a game with No LIMITS ! (Embers Adrift) - obvious idea, should be every game.

[granite snow]

for the PvP crowd: let guilds have constant conflict, that you have to mutually opt into and they will have endless content with next to zero dev input needed

[fleet stratus]

is this a REAL question?!? if so, bard 1000%

[slim fjord]

there is no dmging cleric silly 😄

[jovial terrace]

bard any day

[atomic onyx]

they really gonna wait weeks to fix anything just to put it on ptr then realize no one is going to play ptr and push it to the servers anyways, 🤣

[surreal tulip]

but i WAHHNNNN ITTTT

[slate egret]

Yea stolen loot should be tagged and not able to be deleted

[storm juniper]

naa i prefer mortal online where gold weighed stuff and only stacked to 10k which also basically weighed to much to actually carry, then when u died in the bank to mage terrorists its went bye bye

[stoic pecan]

Not really bots are mostly in those high population starter zones that everyone refuses to leave and claim competition is too hard. I hardly see bots in the north on Vyra besides next to vendor in a few places

[civic jolt]

tbf plate the only real obtainable set for physical users atm

[fleet stratus]

sir, your amateur pornography is not allowed here

[dawn needle]

Anyone else notice theres no difference between running high end gathering quality versus common gear? I 've been finding epics/heroics just as often as my highly equipped guildmates

[surreal turret]

Bards are the best class in the game by a very wide margin. i unfortunately have testosterone and i think you legally have to drive a prius to play one

[languid ivy]

Just use lumbering bag incase you want to chop trees and collect flowers at the same time
same with hunting + mining since the meterials both occupy the same grid.

[wooden cave]

make a char in Lotharia and see it yourself

[torpid tulip]

never been to the desert?

[balmy fog]

hmm what's a better tank. fighter or mage

[storm juniper]

prius will go 115 like any other car made after 2000, actually its top speed, rofl

[vague kite]

How are you so spot on everytime (I play bard 😭)

[surreal tulip]

Ravens have felt significantly worse for me than grem or wolves, I've found a good spawn but always looking for better

[fleet stratus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160653632757321870/1450771505288839178/image0.gif ah yes... you have a case of "fighter brain"... we understand

[smoky wedge]

plenty of other cars run 135

[pastel juniper]

Steam update is up

[stoic pecan]

That was annoying, bank bombing was fun tho lol

[marsh kelp]

Bard > Mage as a DPS too

[dawn needle]

I know of a few good spots, one being right outside of miraleth actually

[torpid tulip]

I drive a Corolla tyvm

[slow fable]

Those are fighting words.

[sand wing]

same thing lol

[surreal tulip]

yeah realistically anything else is punishing yourself

[fleet stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/russian-car-vaz-gif-27185015

[deep kernel]

Steven this is the last time i will ask you, why every patch is 1.9GB answer to me steveeeeeeeeeen

[stoic pecan]

Nope don't go there much only a couple times before I realized I could go closer with crates for the same payout

[balmy fog]

because of the main file size

[torpid tulip]

lmfao I used to drive a Prius C, but didn't want to become part of a Soup Kitchen. Corolla FX is not the same thing

[slow fable]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-wizard-war-manual-breathing-silly-funny-gif-17753128467277352979

[surreal turret]

people who main bard have more than likely have been to at least 3 avenged sevenfold concerts

[sand wing]

hard to escape the allegations after owning a prius lol

[hushed barn]

only been to a jelly roll concert

[fleet stratus]

cmon now, don't be a bitch, @ the man

[magic cradle]

getting close

[odd plaza]

Okay guys you've convinced me that I should play Bard as one of my five and ditch the Cleric

[torpid tulip]

a little, but I've had a few cars since then to rinse myself clean of it 😄

[sand wing]

the new ones look better for sure, than the old.

[surreal tulip]

Rome was built brick by brick.

Ashes is built 2Gs at a time.

[stoic pecan]

I might actually have a char on there from one of the individual server downtimes lol I'm def not saying bots aren't a problem because they're a huge problem just saying it's better on most places if you leave briarwood and avens end lol

[fleet stratus]

like this @deep kernel : @vague leaf I pooped today. You're welcome for the update. Continue the excellent work.

[potent scarab]

Let's see.... this is all stuff they showed in the past during live streams..most of them over a year ago or more.

Castle siege testing was like 2yrs + ago... when castle siege??

Nodes other than scientific and cities when??

Story archs when??

Underealm when??

Weather system when??

Tulnar...when??

Many more...

[torpid tulip]

if only you knew what you were missing.. the desert is great except for the stillsuits you have to wear

[languid ivy]

Ashes of Creation ❌
Where "WHENS" Meet ✅

Please spare my life, Steve.

[marsh kelp]

Castle sieges go brrrrrrr

[surreal turret]

Im just over here like .....Add a fkn druid man.

[torpid tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/the-other-guys-gator-dont-play-dirty-mike-dirty-mike-and-the-boys-gif-16546420

[sand wing]

and the fact that 99% of the time teleport doesnt work there lol

[stoic pecan]

No thanks I don't like scorpions and lil pink rock monsters

[dawn needle]

the other guys was a top tier movie experience

[potent scarab]

Most movement abilities dont around sunhaven lol. My disengage just flips in place, tanks charge doesn't move

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/drop-falling-ajin-aurelius467385-destruction-gif-19478743

[simple oxide]

see the thing is I've tested a lot of these things out - they have them built! I honestly dont know why they havent put them in-game yet though, like maybe they started work on it and just haven't gotten them to a state where Steven feels like they're ready? Parts of the underrealm was in alpha 0 >.>

[upbeat kite]

my game and pc like to crash near sunhaven :/ same with joeva and mira

[surreal turret]

you dont know real fear until its your first time in sun haven and youre getting chased by 32 scorpions all yelling slurs at you and your lvl 1 horse mount dies on a mage and you blink in place

[dawn needle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/VcBHFWEXR3ccg

[sand wing]

yep, teleport in place lol

[fleet stratus]

you guys need to just GET IT ALL OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM!.. all that negativity and doubt... just dump it all here, get a week or 2 discord mute, and come back with a renewed appreciation... do NOT half-ass it, seriously just VENT ALL... @unreal wedge @sharp ember @tacit cairn @clever sedge @fallen fulcrum will help you find renewed faith through a mandatory vow of silence... as a matter of fact, by pinging all these people + Steven earlier I may join you ❤️

[torpid tulip]

Aim for the bushes?!

[deep kernel]

today i tried that instant rammen from a cup that you put boilling water in. How do people enjoy this garbage?

[potent scarab]

Yeah i think its because when we tested them it was in UE4. And they basically restarted development from scratch when moving to UE5. Just imo

[hearty venture]

going the full 4 hrs. Must mean we getting something good surely

[stoic pecan]

I remember when the whole desert was a lawless zone and I miss it

[balmy fog]

it means they stuffed up something lol.
Steam patch later than usual, downtime longer than usual

[sand wing]

i carried like 3 level 1 horses at that time lol, been a few times i lost them all lol

[surreal turret]

SERVERS UP ˢᵒᵒⁿ

[dawn needle]

THERE GOOOOES MY HEEEROOOOOOOO

[slow fable]

https://tenor.com/view/slingshot-slingshot-viking-catapult-viking-trebuchet-viking-full-send-slingshot-viking-gif-6609041650351594609

[simple oxide]

yeah that would make sense - I still remember the castle siege we had in alpha 1 lol - was hella fun

[fleet stratus]

you are looking at it wrong tbh.... FIXING things > NEW things

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/hurry-up-gif-1417302180687177576

[potent scarab]

Yeah sadge =*( I was fighting scorpions and beetles trying to dodge them and wasnt working well when "kiting" standing still lul

[upbeat kite]

not testing an old broken thing is fixing it?

[vague kite]

Somebody gets it, alphas are generally supposed to be about making the content stable, then betas are for getting feature complete.

[dusk bone]

Im having fun this phase eating some of the new rogues. Gear diff go kind of crazy this phase.

[slow fable]

If you spot an issue or bug, time to file a bug report, help us make the game the best it can be.
The more bug reports issues > the more of an incentive to get it fixed.

[potent scarab]

Just such a sad feeling when we've tested these things years ago and they arent even close to being implemented now..

[torpid tulip]

ish, Alphas are for working on the connectivity and the building blocks for the game.

[dawn needle]

Some mobs will track you like if it's their life's mission

[fleet stratus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathstalker SCORPIONS ARE NOT FRIENDS

[slate egret]

That's actually backwards. By Beta the game should be feature complete. Beta is when they focus on polish.

[stoic pecan]

Hate keep referencing a dead game but in mortal online you could launch people on top of strong holds if they had enough health or skills to decrease fall damage it was great

[simple oxide]

see - I wouldn't say they aren't close to it - those systems worked back then and they could definitely work now. I think maybe they just want more polish or perhaps something with UE5 delayed it? I honestly have no idea but Castle Sieges for example was instanced and could run 50vs50 in a crispy smooth 60fps on my 1080ti back then lol

[potent scarab]

Honestly it makes me feel like we are going backwards aside from the size of the map.

[simple bronze]

update notes: we fixed the floating daff near halcyon so you can farm it now

[frozen spire]

Just waiting for the update notes like

[random geode]

it got extended didng it

[languid ivy]

how about the hemlock trees south of New Aela? 😄

[potent scarab]

I can only hope you're right, but ive had trust in Intrepid for far too long now.. its starting to seriously dwindle ..unless I see some big improvements soon

[deep kernel]

might need more than 4hrs for that so i dont believe its fixed

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-meets-world-topanga-shirt-rip-strong-gif-5618299

[smoky wedge]

extendo

[simple bronze]

thats for tomorrow down time which is expected to be up to 4 hours

[haughty cliff]

yeah 1h extended

[patent anchor]

zone close to SunHaven in desert is bug since a long moment, skill move@disengage ranger, blink mage etc. don't work

[tight tinsel]

how about more slates

[dire nova]

That's bad dudeeeeeeeee

[upbeat kite]

oh yeah the timer just got updated by an hour I see than now fml I'll stop waiting by the pc then lol

[balmy fog]

bruh come on an hour. I only finish work right as the downtime begins. How rude and inconsiderate for me in particular smh

[simple oxide]

in a lot of ways we do have more now - I think they made a mistake adding in mules and tuning corruption so heavily - and honestly just not including a lot of what we did have before. I hope we see those elements added in soon but I know we aren't going backwards it just feels like that at the moment since some of the major game loops have been nerfed so hard with some of the choices they made this phase.

[half pilot]

Downtime has been extended. We need additional time to test.

[scenic rapids]

I can cope about it been the badlands release + new poi near new aela.

It won't be, but I can believe for a little while.

[sage mountain]

yay

[ebon shale]

AHAHA another hour w/o saying anything lets fucking go

[stoic pecan]

Tons just took a little cooperation and some willing ammunition you could enter the strong hold and just slaughter all the squishy mages throwing fireballs from the window

[runic matrix]

they just said something xD

[potent scarab]

Yes we need more slate and limestone seriously lol. Ive farmed for amethyst for days in the desert and only get common. Ive gotten like 36 common amethyst out of 1000 limestone

[simple bronze]

is that much time really needed to fix the floating flowers ? :]

[tight tinsel]

exactly

[balmy fog]

If you are gonna take an extra hour at least let us read the patch notes while we wait like a sensible company smh
(even if the reading takes 0.2s)

[jolly raptor]

pls let this be the bugfix patch 🙏

[simple oxide]

no worries, time to get some sleep before work then ❤️

[atomic onyx]

What do they mean additional time to test? they test the patch while theyre patching? lol

[sick ocean]

ive got slate tech if you need some

[upper mural]

it will be the a nerf to food and elixirs again and you will like it

[sand wing]

damnit, now imma have to goto work before its back up

[half pilot]

There's some cheat prevention stuff going into this update, and they want to make sure it's as solid as they can make it. ❤️

[haughty cliff]

we've made server-side improvements, that address issues that cause some people to crash xD

[stoic pecan]

You can get this in the tropics too I forget which rock I got it from but it was the only time I found it

[sage mountain]

wouldn't be wise incase they need to rollback the update before releasing it

[simple bronze]

the amount of JM farming mats are like 5% of all basalt and granite basically all novice rocks lol

[inner hedge]

slate is super common

[dawn needle]

Hell yeah

[storm sapphire]

All aussie players crying they dont get to play tonight :c

[dapper sierra]

When fixing PvP?

[upbeat kite]

Very nice- so maybe no more mules launching for takeoff into the Joevan skies? XD

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/smack-littlehitter-anime-gif-9434775

[exotic flower]

In Mira too?? I'M ON MY WAY

[potent scarab]

O.o? Huh

[atomic onyx]

Who wants to take bets we'll see flying mules within 30 minutes of server launch 😄

[sand wing]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-crash-i-believe-i-can-fly-flying-fly-gif-23945296

[dire nova]

1h more time for then reroll the update

[balmy fog]

simply test on a private server first and then don't stuff the update up. skill issue smh

[torpid tulip]

Everyone asking when something is going to be fixed, please do what you're supposed to do and report it and if you want it to be fixed so badly, make sure it's reported after every patch.

[static spindle]

Sometimes I shave one of my legs so when I lay down i dont feel so alone.

[timber lily]

add more huntable wolf spawns papa

[simple bronze]

ok now u making me feel bad for saying that 😂 ok i wait even an extra hour if anti cheat is coming

[upbeat kite]

Hopefully the chinese bots don't fly in and gank whoever camps the lion? XD I can only hope- I'm afraid to go near it lol

[dawn needle]

There's so many bots around the starting areas as well as aven's end/briarmoore farms. I get exhausted of doing /bug reports on them, we need a good in-game reporting system

[simple oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-america-united-states-usa-president-gif-15276051259344443850

[sand wing]

just load up a set of whitegear, and murder them

[exotic flower]

Near Joeva too, just bunch of bots checking out every node and running in patterns, all summoners of course)

[torpid tulip]

There's literally bots everywhere, not just there. Bots will take a bit of time to knock out, every MMO has bots

[simple bronze]

it should be like rust u report them and admins are checking right away and they get ban same day if they are cheaters

[dawn needle]

The issue is you cant murder them when they're lower than lvl 10

[potent scarab]

The sea glass one ?

[smoky ocean]

damn lol lot of mad kids reacting

[atomic onyx]

Any ideas when the overwhelming game issues the community has been in uproar for weeks about, will be addressed publicly ?

[sage mountain]

be more cryptic

[frail bison]

LETS GO 5 HOURS DOWNTIME for the 2 liner patch

[upbeat kite]

That used to work but they're Learing- they've started using multiple sub lvl 10s to camp to get pvp protection, and the gold farmers finally adjusted their pvp settings and set their pets to passive mode RIP

[patent anchor]

question is, after maintenance, are we going to have a rollback of patch with another maintenance ?

[soft kindle]

I really want to make alts which are dedicated killing bots and making their lifes miserable x) i love that we can do it. In new world i hated bots but could do nothing about them.

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-dragon-ball-vegeta-raining-rainy-night-gif-15106396

[stoic pecan]

I think so coveglass I think it's called

[balmy fog]

sure. When address big problems admin man

[maiden garnet]

they added another hour, they should make another post instead of ninja adding time

[half pilot]

Yeah the in-game reporting system is being worked on, but it won't be in for a bit - probably March-ish timeline.

[simple oxide]

haha yeahh.... figured some of the people in here wouldn't like the Trump meme 😂 but hey boss update if it helps with the cheaters and botters

[smoky ocean]

5 hour downtime lol

[half pilot]

A lot of them are coming in the update that's going to PTR as soon as Valve approves our stuff. ❤️

[marble harbor]

4 hour patch for them to disable the "run without eac" checkbox they've had live for the past year lmao

[surreal turret]

Alright just finishing fighting with my GF for not coming to bed with her, time to fkn grinf bois

[dawn needle]

I'm good with that, at least we have something incoming to address the stress on the current economy

[golden sky]

when is the next dev stream?

[timber lily]

yall should fck around and just add in all the archetypes

[odd plaza]

Just want to say your awesome! Keep up the good work

[fleet stratus]

https://discord.com/channels/256164085366915072/268907139504930816 #rules message welcome to the internet dumbass

[maiden garnet]

I have liek 7 tickets and only get auto ai replies and one over 14 days

[sage mountain]

add an right click option to report player (opens window to specify reason) shouldn't be that hard, right?

[sand wing]

full send, go now

[half pilot]

Aiming for January 30th

[nova thorn]

did the down time get pushed back another hour?

[potent scarab]

Hmm kk ill check

[simple oxide]

how do I buy you and the team a beer? 😂

[smoky ocean]

whats the update on the harbinger flowchart event being added? steven said this month.

[sick ocean]

its up now

[static spindle]

Are we getting any boons back? or is that pretty much gone for the forseeable future?

[marble harbor]

they don't exist big dog

[atomic onyx]

Whats the expectation for PTR , im not sure how many people will actually move over and test frequently

[golden sky]

literally my birthday :O

[surreal turret]

these mfs pushed it back to 3am now

[dapper sierra]

Just keep being the way you are it's enough 🤡🤡

[exotic flower]

You should have come to bad, man... Now no girl and NO GRIND)

[balmy fog]

March for 'being worked on' is crazy haha. That's an afternoon of work for a single dev for the reporting system, then 1 more for the auto filtering side. (For simple file a report UI)

It's on the backlog more like, and possibly allowing a certain amount of cheats to figure out how to deal with them while still EA 😂

[storm juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/wipe-hype-tenor-is-garbage-and-its-run-by-morons-gif-8911283505911799454

[kindred zenith]

Curious about the process can you share the general info ? like do they require checking hardware or backend systems and like ceritifying it before they allow you to have PTR ?

[half pilot]

Happy birthday!

[sand wing]

if theyre smart, theyd just copy the player database to PTR so people could test it

[simple bronze]

some time in may or next year lol

[stoic pecan]

If not that which ever is the corresponding tier I just remember a really pretty purple gem in my inventory heroic too lol

[simple oxide]

keep being salty over nothing I guess? whats with the clowns?

[delicate olive]

Margaret do we plan on bringing more pvp content to the game soon or adding caravans back to where they are more doable?

[timber lily]

you have difficulties making friends dont you

[austere flower]

Does anyone else have a issue where every update has a few corrupted files that have to be redownloaded, then you have to check the installed file for corruption with a 40% ish of the time that also need redownloads

[sage mountain]

hope the dev's consider (or have already implemented) a merge server functionality

[marble harbor]

I have many friends, which is why I feel so free to push people away on the internet

[golden sky]

pretty sure they've merged servers in past phases

[fleet stratus]

nothing?

[smoky ocean]

they dont

[odd falcon]

please fix rarity for mining, right now higher quality rating = less epics and heroics but more green...

[sand wing]

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[sweet juniper]

this game needs more solo contents, it's really stressful spending 3hrs to find a party with tank, cleric and bard

[livid oasis]

If you have many friends you should not feel free to do that

[simple oxide]

jesus dude its a meme and not used in a political context - get over yourself

[surreal flax]

Hello, anyone know a good spot in the jungle to farm Cryptward recipe ?

[upbeat kite]

That or give everyone lvl 25s and a pack of gear crates with options

[merry shale]

placebo go crazy

[marsh kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-workout-exercise-gif-26378486

[balmy fog]

This is definitely not the case lol. Try running around Mira as a citizen for an hour versus somewhere you got no quality. It makes a difference

[storm juniper]

still dont get how gifs of the sitting pres are political i got a warning for that crap earlier its not like its spamming his damn campaign promises

[marble harbor]

friends or not, it does not change the fact that we were supposed to have two archetypes before June last year and we currently have zero

[potent scarab]

Its been a while since we seen the kitty. Make sure its on stream this time =^_^=

[ocean phoenix]

i got 20g for anyone that can tell me what mobs drop dreadwake emblems!

[golden sky]

yep, way more heroic, rare, epic, etc

[fleet stratus]

another sensitive snowflake upset about rules are you? seems to be a growing community of you smooth-brains

[odd falcon]

if you haven't tested every pickaxe in the game and mined for 1 month please don't talk

[scenic rapids]

Anything in the jundark

[simple oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-things-that-make-you-go-hmmm-yeah-ok-gif-16013961894675410206

[timber lily]

a lot of snowflakes in this comm lol

[surreal turret]

ight fk it, goodnight all, they playin games

[broken junco]

Would it be possible to have a handful of staff acting GM duty in the interim, to manually do some (admittedly unthankful) work. The optics and player relief from such a relatively small gesture would be immense

[upbeat kite]

ya Mira has extra quality... so you're kind of proving his point (it also depends on your servers tho bois- neither of you said what servers...) I'm on Vyra.

[sand wing]

im not sure my reply implies sensitivity, but yours seems to lol

[storm juniper]

are gifs of mules political, acutallly can we remove mules from game, clearly political content

[frank jackal]

hope there will be a ban wave against bots

[dapper sierra]

This comment wins today🎉🎉🤣

[nova thorn]

i agree

[fringe crest]

#alpha-two-general message gold spammer 😉

[exotic flower]

True, man, and more common than Legendary? Preposterous...

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-not-surprised-death-note-l-lawliet-anime-gif-17134977

[light delta]

same for herbalism ;d 1k gathering quality and in 5 days i harvest hundreds of herbs.. maybe 10% of it was green. 0 rare+. Funny, but with new character with novice lvl of gathering skill i get more rare, epic etc mats then i get from 2 weeks on my main 😄

[stoic pecan]

5am for me I should of slept and woke up early at least then I'd kinda feel like normal responsible part of society lol

[rich berry]

https://tenor.com/view/stepbrothers-willfarel-will-ferrell-bestfiends-did-we-just-become-best-friends-gif-5427382

[odd falcon]

this is exactly the current state of rarity

[wet knoll]

Man.. they pushed the downtime another hour..

[simple oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/balls-459-gif-16816978660476177799

[fleet stratus]

did you take your meds today?

[ebon shale]

@fleet stratus You 100% reminded the teacher the class had homework

[ocean phoenix]

literally ANYTHING? i've been killing mobs there for 2 days and only got 1 from a raptor

[soft kindle]

Do you guys use both apprentice and journeyman pickaxes? Because journeyman pickaxe gives no quality, but rarest nodes cant be mined with apprentice pick. Is this the play?

[inner hedge]

where are the patch notes im dumb

[maiden timber]

Still no approval for the PTR? 🥲

[atomic wadi]

Added another hour to upp update

[upbeat kite]

"Tough titty" says the kitty but the milk's still warm XD

[agile anchor]

This is why you just craft and let the others do the work picking the fields 🤣

[languid turtle]

Yes

[timber lily]

someone on SHOL WTB wolf carcs 20s/ea

[stoic pecan]

I swear it's just a placebo number for gathering quality

[marsh kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/black-nerd-black-nerd-gif-26919340

[scenic rapids]

They are an untargetable farm. They're a generic bottom of the loot table drop

[potent scarab]

I forgot her cats name.. dang we also haven't seen the teddy bear in a really long time, which i forgot the name as well sadge

[rich berry]

https://tenor.com/view/randall-recess-snitch-gif-9625258

[fleet stratus]

i wish i took school that seriously... maybe i wouldn't have joined the military immediately then

[autumn arrow]

whens the next milestone? 👀

[ocean phoenix]

so mob level doesnt even matter?

[sweet lynx]

did they extend the patch by 1 hour?

[simple oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-twerking-lopezthemijo08-tiktok-omar-lopez-murillo-gif-20509499

[tardy jetty]

yes

[balmy fog]

😂 Mining pretty much all I do. There is definitely a difference, you get more uncommon yes but more of the others. rng is a wonderous thing, it can feel like it doesn't work even when it does. I've done the tests and run farm sessions in dif spots with guildies

@upbeat kite Yeah Vyra as well, I should have mentioned. Not proving his point though, he said quality reduces epics/heroics/rares, but with 0 vs 1500 quality, the amount of epics/heroics/rares very noticably increases

[mellow loom]

yeah, they play their stupid games again

[scenic rapids]

I think that matters. 20+ because they're for level 20+ gear

[upbeat kite]

Hey your name is a bad word- didn't you know?

[fleet stratus]

i usually don't agree with this statement, but: your parents should have beaten you more

[atomic wadi]

Oh sorry we have to roll back the servers we don’t like are update

[inner hedge]

where are the patch notess?

[surreal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-2108856423160912540

[sweet lynx]

is it? I like chilli

[tardy jetty]

now the hackers will not fly, they will go invisible running crates 🤣

[simple oxide]

<@&542059693779058748> pretty sure this violates the rules no? 😅