Want to check this ruling hasn't changed before I play F.A. anywhere seriously.
Situation: F.A. Hang on Mach is on field. F.A. Off-Road Grand Prix is also on field, making Mach Level 6. F.A. Auto Navigator activates its effect to Special Summon itself, making Mach Level 4. What is Auto Navigator's Level?
OCG: 2 but if Off-Road stops applying then applies again (eg: going to BP and MP2) it is 4.
TCG: It's just 4? Is my current understanding.
Can I get confirmation this is how it works in TCG?
#TCG Ruling on F.A. Auto Navigator
hazy stag
Auto Navigator Card text is as follows:
"If this card is in your hand or GY: You can target 1 "F.A." monster you control whose current Level is higher than its original Level; Special Summon this card, and if you do, reduce that target's Level by the difference between its current and original Level, and if you do that, this card's Level become equal to the amount reduced."
sick hamlet
Follow OCG or what the head judge decides
sick hamlet
Even Toaster would say that
hazy stag
it is both simultaneously obvious and completely unhelpful
old radish
There is literally no other answer
However to be a bit more specific, there is nothing to indicate this would be different between the TCG and OCG
I don't know where your understanding of it being 4 after the effect resolves came from, so I can't comment on that
hazy stag
I don't know where your understanding of it being 4 after the effect resolves ca...
mostly from dzeef's videos, he played the deck a bunch in early 2018
old radish
Dzeef is very capable of not knowing rulings
All players are
It's possible this ruling also didn't exist when he played
hazy stag
yeh since they hadn't come out in the OCG yet
old radish
and therefore the consensus was different to what it is now
Ah
that explains it
TCG exclusives suck for this very reason
hazy stag
idk, the both rulings have always struck me as illogical
the TCG ruling is kinda overruled by the word "become" on Auto Nav, which suggests it ignores the field spel
old radish
Auto Navigator is summoned > Grand Prix increases the level > Auto Navigator sets the level of itself, therefore overriding the increase from Grand Prix
hazy stag
but the OCG ruling of it being affected later
old radish
Well
hazy stag
and not going down levels if the field spell leaves the field
old radish
that's purely because the field spell stops applying the modification once you leave the main phase
hazy stag
that's always felt super-weird
old radish
when you re-enter it, it will reapply it again
hazy stag
I understand that, but why doesn't Auto Nav's level drop by 2
when the field spell stops applying
old radish
Auto Navigator is summoned > Grand Prix increases the level > Auto Navigator set...
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OCG ruling indicates that Grand Prix will make Navigator's level increase after it's summoned, but BEFORE it applies the level modification to itself
(At least that's the logic that makes the most sense)
hazy stag
so since it is "unaffected" the level doesn't drop when the field spell stops applying
something like that?
old radish
I didn't say it was unaffected
hazy stag
has not got the effect applying to it then
old radish
When an effect sets the level of a monster to something, any previously applying level modifiers stop applying
hazy stag
so since it doesn't apply in the first place it doesn't go down?
ok that kinda makes sense
old radish
It applies, then is immediately overrided by Auto's effect setting its own level
hazy stag
yeh
sick hamlet
It's like Rush Recklessly was used and then Gale halves it
hazy stag
ok so thanks for finally clearing up that
old radish
(Well not quite because recklessly isn't continuous but anyways)
hazy stag
I was under the impression for so long the rulings were different lol
and the deck has different combo lines for each because Nav is such an important card
old radish
When an effect *sets* the level of a monster to something, any previously applyi...
(also, this isn't true if the effect setting the level is continuous)
Np